The Resilient Mind - How Anu OVERCAME Trauma and Found Joy and Purpose - Anu Verma

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

Watch the full video interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/cxwjE2xm7soIn this powerful and eye-opening interview, Anu Verma — founder of Victim 2 Victor — shares her extraordinary journey of healing and transformation. Despite facing unimaginable pain in her early life and the weight of cultural silence, Anu found the strength to reclaim her voice and purpose.Through courage and resilience, she turned her personal battles into a global message of hope. Her book, Victim 2 Victor, has touched hearts worldwide, and she’s now bringing her story to the screen with two upcoming films, including Silent Screams, based on her lived experiences.This conversation is a testament to the human spirit’s ability to rise, inspire, and create meaningful change.Connect with Anu:Website: https://victim2victor.netInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/victim2victor_anuverma/Facbook: https://www.facebook.com/anuvermaV2VLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anuvermav2vTake action and strengthen your mind with The Resilient Mind Journal. Get your free digital copy today: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/Download_Journal Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the Resilient Mind podcast. In this episode, you will be listening to how Anu overcame trauma and found joy and purpose. This episode is also available in video. Watch it on YouTube by clicking the link in the show notes. Enjoy. I feel younger now than I did when I was younger. Every woman that I've met who's had endometriosis, whenever I ask them, have you suffered any childhood trauma?

It's always yes. that have all been sexually abused as a child. We have the capabilities to shift what's going on in our mind. We all need healing. I feel like everybody has suffered trauma to some degree in their life. You'll only attract a partner who you feel worthy of. So when you've undergone a traumatic incident, your self-worth is quite low,

in which case you will then attract partners who also have low self-worth. You talked about self-love being one of these strategies, and practicing self-compassion. For the people that have heard about self-love, how can they actually completely apply it in their own life so that it's something that is actually actually true? Whatever happened to you, it wasn't your fault. And I just want everyone to understand that if something bad happened to you, then we can heal. You know, anybody can heal. I'm just standing in court knowing that I would. I've never ever had faced such victory and it just felt so we have to fight.

We can't just lay down and take stuff, you know. We have to show that, you know, that we are warriors. Welcome, Anu to the Resilient Mind podcast. We are super excited to have you here as a guest and we're excited to hear about your story, your perspective based on your experience so that we can learn from your experience and help develop a more resilient mind. How is the day going today? Oh, really good. Thank you. It's such an honor to be here with you.

It's an honor to have you on the podcast. One of the things that we like to learn about, who would like to learn about from you is getting a sense of your story in terms of how you got started. I know you have a lot of different, you have a book, Victim to Victor. You've got a movie that's coming out or a documentary that's coming out. Tell us a little bit about your journey and how you got to where you are to do. Yeah, sure. So it all started when I was just a little girl, so I was three years old, and I had the unfortunate circumstance of experiencing childhood trauma from that age. And it just went on for so many years. And there was so much that was taken away from me as a child. You know, I was stripped away of, you know, just my self-worth and even my identity as well, because I had no idea who I was anymore.

Because, you know, when you're that young, you know, your whole life is kind of just reshaped. Your innocence gets taken away. And it's a real tragic thing to be done for any child having to go through that. And so unfortunately, as I was getting older, due to the fact that I was feeling very vulnerable, and very, just very down and very depressed. I was attracting people who were the same.

So for that, I'd then attract partners who were also insecure and, you know, they were also depressed and they also had issues and, you know, a lot of them had personality disorders and, you know, they were like, alcoholics, they were addicted to drugs. So there was many different types of perpetrators that came into my life, even in adulthood. And so that just worsened, you know, my condition. And it was only when I was in my 30s that I started to understand what trauma was because I had no idea what trauma or post-traumatic stress disorder even was. And it was only through my healing work that it started to uncover that I'd undergone some serious. trauma and there was also a condition which was PTSD, complex PTSD. Because I thought, you know,

I thought, how can I have PTSD? Only people who go to a wall have PTSD because, you know, it's such a tragic condition to have. And, you know, how could somebody who's gone through charter trauma even have this condition? And so there was a lot to learn. And it turns out that, you know, you can get PTSD from early childhood incidents such as sexual abuse. You can get PTSD from domestic abuse because it's a condition which, again, it affects your whole worldview, you know, where you start to have symptoms like addiction. You know, you might feel isolated and down. Like for me, a big one was actually addiction.

I suffered. It wasn't even an addiction to. drugs. It was more addiction to work. You know, what I would do is overwork to try and not be present because by working, it means that, you know, you're on the go and you don't really have to sit in your thoughts because when I sat in my thoughts, that's when all of the negative self-talk used to come back to me. And so, you know, as a consequence of my overworking, I was able to obviously earn a good living, but again, it came at a cost because then what happens when you're overworked, then you know, you get stressed and you burn out. And it's just like a, you know,

you're just stuck in this vicious cycles, you know, the trauma cycle. So it was only really in my 30s as I started to heal and to get help and to really understand what was happening to me that I started to. actually be able to live a better life. And, you know, I was actually to be, I was actually able to sit in my thoughts and be present for once in my life. And so I guess it was only when I really hit 40 and I became a mother. And that's when I feel that my life just, just transformed, you know, to something else. And just looking back at my life now, I feel younger now than I did when, you know, when I was younger.

So that's the magic of healing. And so how do you define trauma and then B, how can people that might not be aware that maybe they have experienced some traumatic experience in the past and maybe suppressed it? How may they be able to identify that? I mean, trauma is a word which is used a lot now. Yeah.

So, you know, you'll see it everywhere, won't you? Oh, you know, they've got trauma. So for me, what was trauma? It was this condition which I didn't even understood that I had. But trauma for me showed up in various ways. So it showed up, you know, in how I, you know, how I believed I was. Like I had a zero love for myself. I hated myself.

And, you know, everything that I could say about myself was really negative. even though to other people, you know, I was this beautiful soul, but I just never believed it. And that's because when bad things happen to you, especially when it's caused by a perpetrator, you start to blame yourself. You know, you think it's your fault and you carry that shame and that guilt and that self-blame. And that just affects you so much, you know, as you go in older. because when you carry in all that, all that baggage, it's hindering your progress,

it's hindering you to even be able to move on in your life because you're just so stuck in the past. You know, you're just so stuck in that thought process, you know, of whatever happened to you. And so for me, that's what trauma is. It's, you know, it's not only what happens to you, but it's how you see yourself as well. And that's why, you know, there's so much research now

about the impacts of trauma on the body. So it's not only the mind that you have to heal, you know, it's the body because trauma gets trapped in your muscles and it gets trapped in all your energy, like your basically energy can't flow in your body anymore due to trauma. So, you know, you really have to look at the body and the mind holistically to release the trauma from the body and to unblock the chakras as well.

That was a big thing for me and blocking the chakras. So yeah, that's kind of my how I would describe trauma. And so the second question was... The second is how my people that might not be aware that they've been to a traumatic event be able to identify that maybe they have a traumatic event that has happened in the past. but they may be potentially suppressing that memory. Yeah. Well, this is a majority of the work that I'm doing now,

especially on all my channels, is I'm trying to get away from the word trauma and just looking at the symptoms of trauma, looking at how it impacts, you know, our relationships, how it impacts our career and, you know, how it impacts our family life and how it impacts, you know, our self-care. So like for me as well, you know, when it comes to like relationships and I know as well for

majority of my clients, majority of the world, you know, it stands that you'll only attract a partner who you feel worthy of. So when you've undergone a traumatic incident, your self-worth is quite low, in which case you will then attract partners who also have low self-worth. And this is why a lot of people who have undergone trauma, they will go on and they'll end up in relationships with toxic partners, you know, narcissists or that's a big one or, you know, people who are addicted to alcohol or drugs because like attracts like. And this is why, you know, a lot of my content that I give out now is to educate people on the symptoms of that, you know, when neglect, you know, the fear of neglect and fear of abandonment is huge as well.

You know, so you'll be in a relationship and you'll be so scared that they're going to leave you, even if they're not right for you, that, you know, you'll cling on to that partner so tight and it's not even the right partner for you. And it's why in domestically abusive relationships, on average, the victim will leave a partner and they'll go back to them seven times. before they actually leave a domestically abusive relationship. And that's because of the low self-worth. You know, they don't feel they deserve any better.

And they have this trauma bond, you know, with this partner who's just not right to them. So when it comes to trauma and relationships, that's a big, big part of my work. And the way to overcome any of this is self-love. You know, we have to learn to love ourselves. We have to work on ourselves to develop our self-worth and to see ourselves in a much more beautiful light. Because only then will we attract the right people into our lives. And the same goes in career as well. You know, if you're obviously in a job that you don't like,

you feel that you don't deserve to be in a job that you do like. And so you're just settled for, you know, a low wage or you're also. settle in an unhappy job because you just don't feel deserving of a better role in your career. And even if you are having a job, you know, you lack the confidence to actually even ask for a promotion or to ask for a pay raise. So trauma impacts work, you know, your work life as well. And it will impact even your just family relationships because, you know, when you're, when you're in that traumatic state, then, you know, you lack the ability to communicate effectively as well because you just don't have the confidence or the ability to be able to do so.

And so many traumatized people are just, they feel suppressed, you know, and so they just won't communicate. And the one thing that we need to be doing in any relationship is to communicate. And so that is why so many relationships, you know, in your family, or even in your intimate relationships, that's why they break down because you just don't have the ability to communicate. So, yeah, there's some symptoms of trauma, which are quite common. And there's like a lot to unpack there because I think the first thing that stuck to me when you're speaking is that idea that if an individual has been through a traumatic experience,

they're going to end up finding relationships that reinforce that experience because of the low self-worth, they might not think that they're good enough, they might be self-deprecating. And so that cycle almost repeats if they don't become conscious of it and break that cycle. And so for some of our listeners, we have been through a traumatic experience, hearing that, they might be like, so are you blaming me for the fact that I had this experience that happened, and then now all these are their relationships that have had, initials not treated well, were caused by my thought pattern. And I think part of that, and correct me if I'm wrong,

is it's not a matter of blame, but just realizing that we have the capabilities to shift what's going on in our mind and change the way we are pursuing other relationships if we choose to actually address that traumatic experience. Yeah, yeah, no, definitely, yeah, I fully agree. And the problem as well that people have is, even understanding that they have trauma in the first place. So, you know, and that's only by actually acknowledging it and accepting it,

can they then seek the help, you know, and to move on past that as well. Because many people, they'll live their whole lives, not even, you know, believing it or, you know, there might be in denial about it because they might say, oh, you know, trauma happens to other people. It doesn't happen to me. And I mean, I was talking about this the other day that every woman that I've met who's had endometriosis, I've met quite a few women who's had that. And whenever I ask them, oh, you know, have you suffered any childhood trauma? It's always yes. They've all been sexually abused as a child.

So there's a huge link with endometriosis and trauma. and it's like other chronic illnesses as well. I mean, you only have to listen to, you know, some of the amazing trauma experts out there like Gabba Mate, you know, to actually understand that trauma causes chronic illness. You know, it's the number one factor for any kind of illness. It's trauma because when that's stored in your body,

that's how your body starts to malfunction and, you know, you get your blockages and, you know, you might start developing like tumour and it's just, yeah, for me, it's the number one thing for chronic illness. We all need healing. I feel like everybody has suffered trauma to some degree in their lives, you know, whether it's from being bullied at school or being called a nasty name or, you know, maybe your teacher looked down at you or, you know, your parents told you off frequently

or even if it was just once, that's all trauma. So we can't disregard it. It's trauma. And if it impacted you where you kept thinking about it and then you started to allow it to impact on how you felt about yourself, then that's when you know that you need to seek help. You need to try and find a way to heal from that, to let it go, you know, release it because there's no point in carrying that anymore.

because it will only eat you alive. Yeah. And it likes to you short, isn't it? And what I love about your story is you talk about your experience, going through those dramatic experiences from the age of three. And now to where you are, where you're being able to find the tools and strategies to overcome those experiences and to live what sounds like an amazing life.

You're like happy at doing all these amazing things. So there is home, right? people are not stuck with their traumatic experiences. They don't have to be identified by it. You talked about self-love being one of these strategies and practicing self-compassion. For the people that have heard about self-love, how can they actually like concretely apply it in their own life

so that it's something that is actionable for them? Yeah, yeah, wow. Self-love is huge. And again, it's such a cliche topic, isn't it? Love yourself, but it's not that easy. It's so not that easy. my God. I mean, even as I was healing, I still didn't love myself. I hated myself. I love it. And then I was even questioning, do I even deserve to heal? Because I thought the only way

through life was to just be ready to die, you know, and that was it. And so for me, self-love took some time. And it just took a lot of kindness to myself. I had to be kind to myself. And things that really helped me were affirmations. I mean, there's a lot of debates about affirmations, but honestly, I feel like it was the number one thing that transformed me because I had affirmations come up on my, on my phone. There were like reminders. So every three hours during the day, I'd have a reminder come up. Just simple saying, I am loved. I am enough. I can achieve anything I want to. The universe has my back. You know, just some amazing positive self-worths. And so over time, it did. I felt like it really instilled into me. And then I started to believe

it. During that time, I was also on a healing journey. I was, you know, doing a lot of energy work. And, you know, I was working through a lot of my issues as well. But I feel like, you know, you might go and have therapy, but that's only like one hour every week or every two weeks. So I feel like the real work is what you do during your days when you're on your own. So we need to make those days count. And what we need is positive, beautiful words going into us, you know, so that we're absorbing them. And again, there's a lot of work on, you know, the subconscious beliefs, just have.

how impactful that is. And I did a lot of that during hypnotherapy training as well. And that, it's in your subconscious mind. That's where change is going to happen. You know, it's your subconscious believing that. And the only way I found for that to happen is just to, you know, have your affirmations on, to ground yourself, to be present in this moment, even if it's for two minutes, you know, to go out and connect with nature, be in fresh air and surround yourself with people who lift you up, good energy people. I know sometimes that's hard because it's hard for you to understand what good energy is, especially when you're being around negativity all your life. And, you know, just as well, what I've found as well is, I don't know if

if this is something that you've practiced is, as I'm about to drift off to sleep, it's just having some like a 15 or 20 minute practice, you know, whether it's a guided meditation that I put on or, you know, like a hypnotherapy session. Because it's during that time that majority of, you know, if we're listening to something so beautiful, it will actually go into a subconscious mind because, you know, we're just totally relaxed, aren't we? And we're about to drift off to sleep. And isn't that beautiful?

If we can listen to such a magical thing just before we sleep, then imagine how beautiful the dreams will be as well. And to be honest, my dreams are always beautiful because of that. So I'd highly recommend just 15 or 20 minutes before you sleep. Just go on to YouTube even and just stick on a beautiful meditation, something which is going to affirm to you, just how amazing, a beautiful you all. I love that.

I know like I've heard when people talk and question where the affirmations work, and one of the people that I've listened to is Louise Hay, who is very big on affirmations. And one of the things she says is that we are always affirming something, always. But most times we are affirming that I'm not worthy, I'm not good enough. People hate me. And so those are the affirmations that we are doing without even being a way. of it and if there's been a traumatic experience, then those are the affirmations that we are

kind of that are going on in our head. But what you're saying is that if we are conscious of that process and we take more self-loving, more self-compassion affirmations, then you can start changing that self-talk. And of course, before you drift off to bed and right when you wake up, right, our subconscious mind is to show that it's very active. So that's like prime time to be like embedding those positive thoughts, which, yeah, which I think. is like super, super amazing. Yeah. Very actionable items for people to be able to do.

Yeah. Easy as well. Easy as well. Were there any challenges as you are going through a healing journey? So we talked about the different things that you are doing, practice in self-love, the affirmations, playing positive audio. You're also doing hydrotherapy. Were there any challenges that you face during that?

that journey that big, we're unexpected, or you had to deal with during that time. Yeah, so many, so many. And I think the biggest one for me was that the universe kept bringing me different people into my life, who, again, were traumatizing me even more, like, in relationships, mainly. And I kept, again, you know, I kept getting hurt. And again, I just felt like he kept setting me back on my healing journey. So even though I was on this amazing journey, I just kept entering these relationships, toxic relationships with these really bad people.

And then they kept hindering my growth. And even though at the time I kept questioning, you know, why do bad things keep happening to me? And, you know, what did I do to deserve this? And, you know, I must have had some real bad karma for these things to keep happening. happening to me. And, you know, I was having to battle at court against one of my exes and another ex was taking me to court. And it was just so many battles, you know, I was having to fight, fight, fight. And then it was only afterwards when I started to understand, okay, maybe I just hadn't learned my lessons enough. You know, I still had a lot of lessons to learn and I had a lot of

strength and resilience to gain because I won. I actually won this court major, like, court battle against my ex. When I say major, it was, it was just around money that he took from me and, you know, I was, I was getting it back. And you know, I just standing in court, knowing that I won. I've never, ever had faced such victory and it just felt so sweet. And it felt so freeing, hence my brand victim to Victor, because that's when I started to feel victorious. And that's when I started to understand, okay, you know, I feel quite strong right now. So maybe that's why I had to do this. I had to fight these battles in order to be where I am.

So, look, I just feel like on every journey that anybody's on, we're going to face challenges, we're going to face setbacks, people bringing us back down to base level, but it's how we manage those situations to rise back up again. You know, it's how we fight. You have to, I feel like in this day and age we have to fight. We can't just lay down and take stuff, you know. We have to show that, you know, that we are warriors. So, yeah, and my friends laugh at me. They're just like, oh my God, you know, you're always fighting.

I was thinking, well, if people keep taking advantage of my kindness, you know, I have to, So yeah, so I think for me it was out, definitely. And for someone who's like, let's say in a very, very dark place right, right, they don't have the energy to fight. They feel like all hope is lost. What is like one thing that maybe can help just move them closer to the light, to that victory? If they feel so helpless in that state. Yeah, again, you know, I've been there.

And the one thing that I feel anybody needs in their lives is by just having one person who believes in them. Because just by having that one person who believed in me when I was feeling so low, it was a first step towards gaining any form of strength, you know, any form of just self-love. Because even if you don't believe in yourself, you know, if somebody else believes, in you, then that's something, you know, and that's something that we need to try and cherish if we can, because the fact that they believe in us, it shows that, you know, we are worthy, you know, we do have something. And, and I just, like, obviously, baby steps, you know, we have to do baby steps. And, you know, if people can, try and join supportive communities, you know, there's so

many now on social media, on Facebook. And, you know, I've even helped. a lot of clients on these platforms as well. And I just think they're really amazing communities where, you know, you can meet like-minded people and really, you know, connect with them. I mean, in the UK as well, we have a lot of charities where they have, you know, they might have like domestic violence, abuse survivor groups where, you know, women, they, or men even, you know, that they meet like weekly together. It's just, I just think it's so nice when you can see that, you know, and share stories with each other or, you know, you don't have to share anything, but just listening to other people, you know, it can really help you as well.

So baby steps, I would suggest. And if you can, try with the affirmations, you know, right now and just try to really start to and get the positive self-talk in you. And, you know, gradually over time, you know, you'll be able to then. hopefully try and seek some help through healing or, you know, try and see a therapist. And then, you know, it takes time. So, yeah, that would be my recommendation. Beautiful. I always think about, it's a quotation that goes something along the lines of courage, isn't always something that's loud or goes growing around.

It's that little voice that say, I'll try again tomorrow, right? Just taking those baby steps. It's not something that is so overt that. we believe in. Exactly. One of the things that you also touched on earlier was the importance of communication, being able to communicate, to talk to people about these past experiences. Because I think a lot of people, they will not open up because culturally is not expected or they'll not open up because they don't get someone in trouble, if something has done to them, or they are still blaming themselves. And so with you being now open about your experience,

experiences, I know you have a book, Victim to Victor, that's coming up with a screenshot, how does speaking about your own experience with abuse and the importance of healing impacted your life and how might it also impact other people that are also going through the same experience or similar experiences? Well, speaking wasn't very easy for me. I mean, even when I wrote my book, I was still hiding away behind the pages and I was still suffering. So even as I was writing and releasing my book, the trauma came back and I went into a deep depression again and I had to seek therapists as well. And so anybody can hide behind, you know, a book. For me, I felt like the real victory for me was actually speaking on camera about it and doing my podcasting. Even podcasting, I was still hiding away, you see, I wasn't showing my face.

So it was only really on my social media platforms when I started to speak about it. And oh, wow, it was hard. It was so difficult, to be honest, just seeing yourself in the mirror or in the video even. And then just having to talk about all that bad stuff that happened to you. Oh, my goodness. But I'm telling you, it was one of those, you know, having to really get out of your comfort zone and to really, you know, try and overcome the fear. by doing it anyway.

That's how you're going to overcome anything. It's by just doing it, repeating it, repeating it. And when it comes to any bad thing that happened to you, you know, we're holding it so much. And that's what's affecting us. That's what's really going to make us ill. So we need to release it and we release that by talking. And so the more you release it, the more you heal,

the more habituated you become to it, the more it becomes normalized. And, you know, distress levels go. You know, you just don't feel distressed by the event anymore by the 10th or 12 time that you've spoken about it. And I say this because I, because exposure therapy is like a therapy that I do with my clients. And it normally is about 10 to 12 times of actually telling the story that you find that their distress levels go from like, 90, 100% down to like 10 to 20%

and that's when you know that, that they're healed from whatever tragic event happened to them. Wow. And one of the things I think, and I'm thinking about, like I love the title of your book, Victim to Victor, because when people go through a traumatic experience, sometimes they identify themselves as a victim. And that victim identity would be very difficult

to change. Because on one part, they can tell them I'm not a victim, but their body and the intensity of that experience might make them feel like a victim. And so, are there any steps to help shift that identity? Or are the steps that you talked about healing, the same that will help individuals also shift their identity. Yeah. One, the only way to not be a victim and to become a victor is to actually start to heal. So, yeah. And so, um, In terms of actual healing practices, I can talk more about them. Yeah, I mean, even though I sought counselling, it wasn't really effective for me because I wasn't able to even understand, you know, what had happened to me. And so I found like with counselling, I was just talking about incidents that were happening to me at that present time.

whereas what I really needed to do was to go back in time and to heal past wounds. And, you know, it's very hard to do in a counselling session. So the thing that I felt was beneficial is was energy healing. So Reiki healing was phenomenal. Just, yeah, because in Reiki, what you're doing is you're harnessing energy healing to release emotional blockages and restore balance to your mind. and your body. So it basically opens up the chakras because when we've undergone any traumatic experience, then our chakras become blocked and then energy can't flow. And then that's why you

struggle, you know, with all these conditions. You know, that's why we get in the fight, flight or freeze response. You know, we suffer from hyper vigilance. And, you know, so by actually releasing the energy, it helps us to release the trauma from the body. And so that was Reiki Healing. And then emotional freedom therapy is also another energy healing technique. And with EFT, that basically uses a tapping process and releases trapped emotions. It helps to calm the nervous system and reduce trauma-related stress. because we know that another symptom of trauma is a really, you know, disregulated nervous system.

And so we want to try and balance that out. You know, we can do that through grounding techniques and, you know, meditation. And, you know, we've spoken about, like, you know, hypnotherapy, hypnosis. So there's quite a lot you can do there. And then, yeah, in terms of actual journalism. expressive writing, that's really beneficial for anybody. Because what happens is that, you know, we have like our fight, flight or freeze response. And so, you know, the brain that reasons with the event, it doesn't become active at all.

So what happens is, you know, you just stay in this state of shock. So what we want to try and do is try to get our prefrontal quarter. in gear because we want to try and reason with, you know, the whatever happened to you. And so by actually journaling and writing, it activates the prefrontal cortex and it allows you to then articulate and make sense of the experiences. You're able to then foster clarity and emotional release as well. So that's huge. So these are all just tactics that can help you to heal.

And then by healing, ultimately, you're going to start to. feel victorious, right? Because then you're going to start to understand yourself better. You're going to start to love yourself. You know, you're going to start to know your worth and you're, you know, you're going to want to then raise your standards in all levels of your life, in your career, you know, in relationships and in everything that you choose. You know, you want to, you want to keep up leveling. And this is why I, you know, I find growth mindset is a must. You know, we all need a growth mindset because that's how you're going to transition from victim to victor.

It's just not possible to do that if you're in a fixed mindset. So we need to grow. We need to evolve as humans. Love it. And what does healing mean to you? Well, healing. Just that, I guess. Yeah.

But healing to me just, it means to be in a blissful state. It means to be able to live a fulfilling life full of joy and passion and to not be stuck in the past. So many people, I still meet so many people who are still so stuck in the past and they just complain about the past, you know, they complain about what happened to them and they complain about people. It's just, they just complainers. So by healing enables you to then not be in that low vibrational state.

It enables you to then expand your vibrations and release positive energy that's going to be so contagious that everybody wants to be around you. You know, that light. You want to be that light. So yeah, so that's ultimately what healing is for me. Amazing. And I think a lot of people are going to. want to learn more about you, hear more about your journey. Tell us a little bit about your book as well as your podcast for those that want to find you. Yeah, amazing. Thank you. So yeah,

you can find me just by Googling or looking on platforms for Victim to Victor with the number two. And so you'll find my book on Amazon. You'll find my podcast on all the major platforms. and also I'm on all the social media platforms as well under victim to victor. I just kept it standard. But the thing that isn't victim to victor is the movie, the upcoming release of the movie, which I'm working on at the moment.

That's going to be called silent screams. So we had to make it a bit more dramatic. So yeah, so that is due to be produced towards probably the end of this year and to be released next year. So that's on the horizon. And yeah, I mean, please do, you know, follow me to keep updated with everything that's going on

because there's so much going on. Perfect. And if there's one message, you'd like to share individuals that have had trauma. What would that be? Wow. I'd say, just whatever happened to you, it wasn't your fault.

And I just want everyone to understand that, you know, if something bad happened to you, then we can heal. You know, anybody can heal. Anybody can learn to grow from that. You don't have to stay stuck in that pain anymore. You know, you can reach out. There's support available and there's people who believe in you. but you just have to believe it yourself.

And, you know, a lot of that does start with acknowledging what happened, accepting what happened to you, and then, you know, reaching out for support. And I'm here as well. If anybody wants to, you know, reach out to me. I'm quite active on Instagram. Please do, you know, give us a follow, send us a DM. I'd love to hear from you.

Thank you, Anu, for taking the time to share your perspective. perspective, your knowledge, as well as the information with us. Oh, thank you so much. It's been such an honor. I love chatting to you. I love your energy. You're just amazing. Thank you.

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