The Resilient Mind - Powerful Message From 103 Year Old Doctor - Dr. Gladys McGarey
Episode Date: March 21, 2025Dr. Gladys Taylor McGarey (1920 - 2024) is a pioneering physician, educator, and advocate for holistic health. In 1989, she founded The Foundation for Living Medicine, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organizat...ion dedicated to promoting the principles of holistic health and bridging the gap between conventional and alternative medical practices.Take action and strengthen your mind with The Resilient Mind Journal. Get your free digital copy today: Download NowThis episode is brought to you in partnership with The Icons by Motiversity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXi_ZdT8sQY&t=131s Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome to the Resilient Mind podcast.
In this episode, you will be listening to a powerful life message from a 103-year-old doctor,
Dr. Gladys McGarry.
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Enjoy.
Why do you think your message is being so, is being received so powerfully?
Because people are injured.
They're scared.
They don't know what to believe.
They don't know.
where the light is and darkness is all around.
So people are just frightened.
Young people are frightened.
The teenagers don't know what to do.
You know, where do we go with this life?
They're looking for life guidance and somebody who can help them find the light and direct it.
So that's what my mission is, really, is to carry a torch for,
those whose torches are
kind of dim and they need more light.
Why do you think your message is being so,
is being received so powerfully?
Because people are injured.
They're scared.
They don't know what to believe.
They don't know where the light is
and darkness is all around.
So people are just frightened.
Young people are frightened.
and the teenagers don't know what to do.
You know, where do we go with this life?
They're looking for life guidance
and somebody who can help them find the light and direct it.
So that's what my mission is, really,
is to carry a torch for those whose torches are kind of dim
and they need more light.
what do you think we're getting stuck with when we're trying to embrace living medicine
because we really don't understand our own power
see i have this kind of idea that when god created this earth
whoever god is to whoever you are is it was it was created the earth and it was
beautiful and everything was in place and the way it should be but then he
he created the human being.
And he said to us,
now you are the only creatures
on this whole place
that have the right to choose
and have free will.
So therefore, I give you
dominion over the earth
and we, being who we were,
decided that what he meant by dominion
was dominance.
And so we've taken over
the earth and done what we darn well
choose with it and look where we are.
So it's that reality
that within us as human being
I think
that like E.T. who
was reaching for home,
I think that in
the inner part of us
we're all reaching for our true
humanity.
And that true humanity
understands that we
are the ones who
do the healing.
The healing has to start with it.
It doesn't matter anything
if I can explain to a patient
and they're thinking about
something else, they're not listening
and they're not taking in anything,
and they won't do what I'm asking them
or what they begin to understand
what I'm asking them or whatever.
If they don't do what they need to do
as part of their healing process,
they'll just shuck it off.
See, I've come up with what I call five Ls.
The first one is life and love.
Without life, there's nothing, you know.
You can be a seed in a great pyramid
for 5,000 years and nothing happens until love,
which is light and water and so on.
softens the shell and the feed opens up and it grows.
Life and love are one unit.
They work together.
It's like a pregnancy.
When a mother is pregnant,
see and that baby are one unit.
What she eats, the baby eats,
what she thinks the baby thinks.
It's a constant process.
but that aspect of reality that is that baby that is being nurtured and grown within the womb
doesn't really find its own identity until it takes its first breath
and then it becomes who it is takes the reason why it's coming into this earth
So it's this reality that life and not one unit and that as we work with us, each other that way,
we can really understand aspects of ourselves, but aspects of the world around us and aspects of other people too.
It really interesting, I've heard you describe that you believe that everybody has a special purpose on earth.
And I think that a lot of people know that, but they've buried it.
or they feel like they're disconnected from their special purpose.
How would somebody find that?
Like, obviously you did.
How would somebody else tap into that purpose within themselves?
Well, you know, you'll never find it if you don't start looking for it.
When you start looking for your purpose, it's like that jigsaw puzzle idea.
When you start looking for that particular puzzle piece and you find it, you know it.
it's that kind of an inner knowing
when something
maybe it's a song
maybe it's something that some
part of your family
is doing
maybe it's something that somebody says
that makes you think
yes
when you can affirm that
inner
it's sort of like
a gong you know it
rings and you, oh, yes, I get that. Look for it. If you find it, then follow it because it's your message
for your soul to tell to the world and the world needs it. What advice do you have for people
who are about 20 years old right now? Try to find joy and happiness. Find something that
makes you laugh, really gutting it, laugh, not something mean, but something that really makes
you feel like, oh, that's really, really funny. And look for that kind of a reality in your lives.
And then spend time looking for what I call the light, you know, I kind of see myself
walking along with a flashlight in the dark on my path and it's dark and I can just go as far as my
flashlight takes me but as I'm walking along sometimes there's a on the side of the path there's a
light that it's not very bright it's just kind of shimmering if I shine my light over there
all of a sudden that light becomes great it comes the
In other words, as we reach out for each other, as we're walking along and we see someone else who's struggling, and we reach over just with whatever we have.
You know, my mother's mate do, whatever there is there, whatever the opportunity is, and you use it and you work forward with it.
you're helping people in ways that you know not.
I hope 20-year-olds can hear that.
I hope a lot of others can hear that too.
I think that's really powerful.
I heard a quote of yours once that absolutely stopped me in my tracks,
and it says fear is one of the major reasons we stop moving as a response to pain.
We don't want to hurt anymore.
And I think about that because I feel like there are a lot of people who don't want to hurt anymore.
how would they
start moving again?
If you can look at the hurt
in any way
that allows us,
when I say you, I'm talking about us
as physicians,
if you can look at any way
in which that hurt
doesn't, you know, it's like
taking a bad,
bad tasting medicine.
if you can get the understanding that this is not here to hurt you,
but the doctor is reaching to you with love because they need to help you.
So if the loving act is done, it's done with a loving light,
and the patient can accept it that way.
It feels like you exude love and light,
and I feel like that must be one of your gifts that's been around
for a long time. But I've also heard that there's been moments in your life when you've been in
the darkness, that you've been in a tough spot. And even a particular time in your 70s, are you
willing to share any part of that period of your life with us? Sure, you know, we all have our dark
places. I'm repeating two years in grade school where I was the class dummy was one of the really
dark places.
I was,
the teacher
calling me the
dumb one
and the
others, you know,
but that was my,
I could go home
in my home
situation
really allowed me
to put this
in some kind of
context where I couldn't,
wasn't dealing with it.
But the thing
that really
broke me apart
was Bill and I
had been married
for 46 years.
We'd created the American Holistic Medical Association.
We'd written books together.
We'd raise six children together.
And we, I thought life was the way it was supposed to be.
And then one day, he asked me for a divorce.
I absolutely, I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't understand it.
I didn't know what he was saying.
And I remember the moment when,
It hit me so hard.
I was coming home from work.
Since when he left,
I was practicing with my youngest daughter,
who's still working as a physician here.
And I was on my way home,
riding down I-10 in the car,
and screaming and yelling and just, I was awful.
I mean, it was terrible.
You don't want to even think about how terrible that was
because it was just the worst thing that I could think of
I was saying and repeating it.
It was just terrible.
And at the top of my voice,
and finally I pulled over to the side of the road
and I got out of the car.
And I'm standing here looking at my car
was the door open.
and I'm thinking to myself,
ooh, that's horrible.
What you were doing in the car is just terrible.
And I thought,
am I going to spend the rest of my life like this?
This is what it's done to me,
and this is who I am.
And so I'm tearing on this discussion with myself.
And the wonderful quote came down into my head.
This is the day the Lord has made.
Let us rejoice and be glad in it.
There was my name.
Right in right there.
I was to be glad.
And my license plate from that day on read, Be Glad.
Because every time I went out to my car, I had to see that.
And everybody to ever got in line with me in the traffic in Phoenix for the next 60 years saw that, be glad.
So it was something that I was affirming to myself, yes, but to the world around me.
So it took the whole ugly, nasty, dark, horrible place and just put it out of it.
it wasn't important anymore.
The car door was open, windows were, you know, I was finished with that.
But what I could do was to take a deep breath and be glad.
Your message has reached millions of people.
And what's fascinating, Dr. Gladys, is that we typically reach 20-year-olds.
And through this interview, we've reached 60-year-olds, 70-year-olds,
80-year-olds who were tuning into technology to hear this message.
and I think so many of them are are potentially in that moment where it feels like their life force,
their life movement, their life purpose has taken, has been slowed down by something,
whether it be age or it be an event that's that's so significant.
And I wonder about what helps them pick up speed again.
And I think that that story and just your ability to change perspective and to choose perspective
and what that's meant for you,
What would you offer as advice for those who are in that stage of life?
Look at your life, not critically, but just look at it to see what you're doing
and see if it's really something that you really want to keep on choosing to do.
And maybe it is.
Maybe it's exactly the right thing.
Maybe you're just in a different department
or maybe it's a different aspect
of looking at what's your doing.
You know, no one else can tell you.
But look at where you are.
And as in a dream,
if you want to do it that way,
I find a lot of help in the dreams.
But ask yourself,
ask people that you trust,
If you have a good girlfriend, talk it over with her.
If you have a good friend, if you have a physician that you want to talk,
talk it over, pull it out, pull it out of the drawer, and look at your life
and see if it's really where you want to be going,
not where you are, and if it's where you want to continue to be.
And if it's where you want to continue to be, then find out a way to make it so that it's what will make you rejoice and be happy in it.
Because if you can find the part of the work that you're doing, the life that you're doing that makes you happy,
latch on to it and let that grow.
but if there's nothing there
but you see something that you
start reaching around and looking
for what's there, what's available
and you'll find it
but you'll never find the light
and thus you start looking for it.
I've heard that you have a mantra
and I'm curious about this that never give up.
How would you use that mantra in your life?
Well, it started with my
dad and I remember being probably nine years old and I was doing something and I said oh I give up
and he looks at me and he says are you critter and I thought oh man that's like being a liar
no no I'm not a quitter and if I you know look back there's statements but it's so important for us to
understand what we teach our children.
And these are things that were really brought to me
so that I could understand the kind of life
that I was going to actually live.
And so, yeah, I had the make-do.
I had to let go.
I had to, my mother taught me how to not take things in
and say that was horrible, I hurt my feelings,
and I could just let it go and say Kuchmurwani, it doesn't matter.
The things that you accept and really understand to be the kind of the core,
you know, I'm about, oh, 15, 20 years ago,
I came up with the, for myself, a kind of a structure
for philosophy that I was building and all.
The first L was life and love.
Those two came together, and I understood those.
But the third one was laughter.
Laughter without love is cruel.
It's mean.
It takes families apart.
It has caused wars, you know.
Laughter can be cruel.
But laughter with love is joy and happiness.
And the fourth L is labor.
Labor without love is drudgery.
You just got to go to work.
You just got to do this.
Too many diapers.
But labor with love is bliss.
It's why we sing or sing, why painters paint.
It's why I do what I do.
It's why you do what you do.
It's what makes our heart sing.
It's that inner aspect of our being that comes alive.
And we'll work five times as hard as we were
when we were driving ourselves along with the drudgery thing.
And the fifth one is listening.
Listening without love is empty sound.
It just doesn't make any sense you don't understand.
but listening with love is understanding.
So these five loves, I mean, these five Ls have been very helpful for me
in structuring and understanding the philosophy
and the lives that I'm working with.
When you mentioned that the center of holistic medicine
or living medicine is love,
and you describe these five L's living love,
love, laughter, labor, and listening, and you kept relating it back to love, it really does feel
like at the center of this philosophy is love. Yes, yes. It really is because life and love are
one unit. You're 103 years old and we're having a conversation where you're drawing back on
memories from 80, 90 years ago. Has love been your secret? Yes, absolutely. Because
Because my mother was the epitome of love.
My mother was an osteopath, a physician.
She went to India, they went to the villages of North India, and she treated the lowly of
the lowliest, you know, with loving care.
I watched that.
I loved watching what, as she worked.
She was really the patients.
She would take a baby in her arms, and one time she did that, and the baby had smallpox.
Well, she got smallpox, and she almost died.
But it was her ability to understand that these people who were coming from the villages,
who were the sick people, they weren't just sick.
They needed love, they needed caring,
and she was there to do it.
And I watched that.
I watched her treat an elephant.
I watched her take care of anybody
or any living thing that was needing help
and do it with love and understanding.
She didn't ask them if they understood what she was saying necessarily.
She might have.
But basically, she reached out to these people.
She knew the language, of course.
She spoke their language.
But the people reached to her for a place that was bringing light and love
into their lives.
And they crowded around her.
My dad, too.
But, you know,
you grow up in an environment like that.
And it's a blessing.
It truly is.
And if we can take it
and then give our children
the same message,
then we're carrying it on.
When you think about the future,
what's your greatest hope?
for the world.
With our technology, the fact that we can do something like you and I are doing right now,
think of the people who would never be able to think of these things, the things that we're
reaching out to people all around the world.
This couldn't happen.
I mean, this is an absolute impossibility, but it's happening.
and so
our technology
has evolved to the point
where I didn't even know
what a telephone was when I was a kid
you know there
weren't such things
but look at what we have now
and who knows what's going to
I can't even
begin to put my mind around
what the future is going to hold
but I know that
if we're
cut
If you're looking for the future evolving in the light
and our part in that being part of shining the light and love,
it's going to be something that's awesome.
Because life has to grow, life has to move.
It has to be part of the whole loving process.
Has to be part of it.
And when that happens, amazing things happen.
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