The Resilient Mind - The Neuroscience of Success: Rewiring Your Brain for Transformation - Dr. Joe Dispenza

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Dr. Joe Dispenza is a renowned author, speaker, and educator in the fields of neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics. He has spent over three decades studying the mind-body connection and the ...ways in which we can harness our thoughts and emotions to create positive change in our lives.Take action and strengthen your mind with The Resilient Mind Journal. Get your free digital copy today: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/Download_Journal Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Resilient Mind podcast. In this episode, you will be listening to The Neuroscience of Success with Dr. Joe Dispenza. Get access to the Resilient Mind Journal by clicking the link in the show notes. Enjoy. If I complain and I blame and I make excuses and I feel sorry for myself and I judge everyone, that's not the new person you want to become. You've got to leave that person behind. The overcoming process is the becoming process. Look, I react. The question is, how long are you going to react? justified valid or not, the only person that's hurting is ourselves. It's like drinking poison and hoping someone else dies. Shorten the refractory period of your emotional responses and you'll keep your body and brain out of the past. This is where your thoughts can literally make you sick because the long-term effects are the hormones of stress push the genetic buttons that create disease.
Starting point is 00:00:50 And my response to traffic, my response to my ex is actually weakening my organism because my body can't live in emergency mode for an extended period of time. And the response causes the brain to fire incoherently, causes the heart to fire incoherently. And now the autonomic nervous system is out of order. The seven-day retreats are our laboratory. It's really interesting when you can get a group of people that are on the same schedule, that are waking up at the same time,
Starting point is 00:01:22 basically doing the same things, eating similar food. It's a great lab to measure. transformation and change. And so the seven day events are a great way for people to retreat from their lives, you know, and to remove the constant stimulation in their external environment that reminds them of who they think they are as a personality. It's important to separate ourselves from the people we know and the places that we go and the things that we do at the exact same time every single day to remind ourselves that we're creators in our life. You know, so the seven day events are an intensive immersion into knowledge and experience to ultimately measure transformation.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And so in Denver, we had about 2,000 people, and we did four scientific studies, great studies. And we had a lot of the researchers that are studying our work participate in the seven-day event. And these are neuroscientists, you know, from Johns Hopkins, from UC San Diego. go, these are Harvard cardiologists and mathematicians. These are trained people that have seen the data. And now, it's so important to sit in the seat and seeing what takes place on a personal level because the effects that we're measuring point the finger at the idea that your nervous system is the greatest pharmacist in the world.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And I asked them, like, why did you come in there? They said, because there's medicine taking place in the environment. inwardly in people. So it was a full-on seven-day event, a great group of people. We had probably 70 different countries from around the world attend. If you do an online course, you know you're going to be distracted. You know you're going to be looking around eating, laying on the couch. You're not going to be really present with the content. I think there's so much power in communing people together that really want to, really want to change and transform and want to overcome themselves. There's an emerging.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Consciousness that takes place when you get a group of people together that are behaving in the same way And that emerging consciousness is an awareness of possibilities that we were never aware of before and so It's not uncommon in a seven-day event where people show up There's someone who stands on the stage and tells the story of how they had stage four cancer and they no longer have it Or they had Parkinson's and no longer had it or they had Myis the Niagarais and they no longer have it or muscular dystrophy and no longer have these are four minute miles and when people see that you know they're seeing possibility and they're seeing the example of truth so the outcome of that is that
Starting point is 00:04:03 once people become aware that that possibility is a reality their belief in possibility normally becomes greater and and their belief in themselves becomes greater and invariably the person's looking at the person on the stage saying and she doesn't look like a vegetarian she doesn't look like she's vegan or organic. She just looked at a normal person. She's not particularly young or buffed, but she healed herself, you know. And someone in the audience can relate with that person and say if she could do it, I could do it as well. The 3D experience of being an event, the other thing that we discovered, which is super powerful,
Starting point is 00:04:41 is that people change people. And we have this amazing study where we're looking at genotypes and genes make proteins. So your gene expression is different than mine. Your genetic code is different than mine. Everybody's is unique. And genes make proteins. So we're measuring a group of people at the beginning of a seven-day event. And at the end of the seven-day event, 77% of the population was expressing the same genes
Starting point is 00:05:10 and making the same proteins. The probability of that happening is almost impossible. So, yes. So 77% of the population is expressing the same. same genes and making the same proteins. So the tribe, you know, the flock, the herd is, there's something emergent taking place and they're biologically evolving together, right? So think the same thoughts, make the same choices, do the same things in your life, create the same experiences and feel the same emotions. Your biology should stay the same because
Starting point is 00:05:42 you're staying the same. Your neurocircuitary, your neurochemistry, your hormones, and even your gene expression stays the same. So then give people new information, give them knowledge, give them information, and make it be about science. Combine quantum physics with Newtonian physics with neuroscience and neuroendocrinone. Give them information about epigenetics and psychoneurimmunology and electromagnetism and learn that information. You got to learn it. And learning is making connections, but then you got to remember it. So you got to engage with someone next to you and teach it back. And if learning is making synaptic connections, remembering is maintaining and sustaining And so this information is so much easier to forget than to remember because it goes against our program.
Starting point is 00:06:22 So you got to remind yourself of what you learned, reproduce the same level of mind, then you start installing the neurological hardware in your brain. The more you understand what you're doing and why you're doing it, the how gets easier because you can assign meaning to the act. And when you do that, you switch on your prefrontal cortex and it wants an outcome. So then give people knowledge and information. They'll start thinking differently. Have they make different choices?
Starting point is 00:06:46 have them do different things, have them create different experiences, have them feel different emotions, is it possible that their biology changes? And in fact, the data suggests talking about the environment, there's so many thousands of genes at the end of seven days that are upregulated, that suggests that the person's literally living in a whole new life, in a whole new environment, and they're in a ballroom. And there's really nothing very stimulating about it. a ballroom. So the inward changes that they're making, they're very inward changes emotionally in thought and behavior, when they're feeling an elevated emotion, their body's so objective. It doesn't know the difference between the real life experience that's creating the emotion. Yeah, which is magic.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And the emotion that they're creating by thought alone. And if the environment signals the gene and it does and the end product of an experience in the environment is the emotion, they're actually signaling genes ahead of the environment, then their biology begins to change. So the seven-day events are the place, the Petri dish, where people are going to learn information, they're going to apply it, they're going to personalize, they're going to demonstrate it, they're going to get their behaviors to match their intentions, their actions equal to their thoughts, we're going to get out of the philosophical, theoretical, mind experience, and they're going to look for the physical experience of the truth of that knowledge. And when they feel the emotion from the experience, their
Starting point is 00:08:14 teaching their body to understand what their mind is intellectually understood. It is a truth because they're embodying the truth of that philosophy. And that's what's actually changing their gene expression. So the information is no longer in the brain now. The information's in the body, right? And now you're in a different state of being. We produce the experience. Do it over and over again. And neurologically and chemically, you'll condition the mind and body to change and work as one. And now you're beginning to become that knowledge. So over time then, The transformation that takes place in a person going from one personality to another personality literally means then on some level their health or their life should change.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And that's kind of what the data has been saying. So we use the seven-day event because there's no place where you can do such large studies. We've done the largest studies in the world on meditation. We have the largest database on meditation with brains, with hearts, with blood, with breast milk, with. So we reproduced a study that we did a little ways back because it was such a profound study. There was studies done years ago at UC Berkeley where they took rodents and they, an old rodent and a young rodent and they merged their blood supply. They merged their circulatory system. And the outcome was that the older mouse got younger and its fur and so many different factors.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So there was information in the blood of the young rat that was influencing the old rat. So, of course, that's not our study. But we thought, what would it be like to take a person who's in their 60s or 70s and pair them with a person who's in their 20s and there had to be at least a 30-year age difference, right? And we did brain scans. We had them take these cognitive tests in the morning. we measured all kinds of factors on them. Nevertheless, they had to eat together. They had to meditate together. They had to exchange and teach back information together. They had to meet at 5.30 in the
Starting point is 00:10:22 morning for their huddle group, and then they had to take these cognitive tests, right? So at the end of one week, first of all, but it was really funny because at the beginning, so many of the elder people said, I got the wrong kid. Can I get a different person? And a lot of the young people We're saying like, oh my God, this older person is just not for me. They're really grumpy. And you're like, no, you can't change. Anyway, of course, at the end of seven days, they were incredibly close, best friends. And the profound changes that took place in both brains, in other words, the wisdom of the elder was translated to the youth.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And the plasticity of the youth was translated to the elder. so they had really powerful gamma patterns in their forebrain, their thinking of frontal lobe. The rest of the brain was this serene state of alpha, which means the brains in a creative state. And it was dramatic in their changes in cognitive function. Both the youth and the elders outperformed anybody that we measured in the seven-day event. And their brains were changing dramatically. So compared to the people that have brain changes in biological changes. changes at the end of seven days that go through it, the youth and the elders outperformed everybody.
Starting point is 00:11:43 So it's such a great conversation about youth and family and being with your grandparents. And we enhanced the study. To really make it a really great triple-blind placebo study, we had controls. We had youth with youth. And we had elders with elders. So we could actually see the comparison. So we evolved the study. And then we have this ongoing study with breast milk, which is really, really interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Breast milk has a lot of wonderful healing properties. In fact, in many traditions, if there's a cut or a lesion, many people will put breast milk on the lesion to help it heal. And there's some value to it. So what we did is we created this simple study where we took epithelial cells or kind of like skin cells and they grow kind of in a plane. So we put them on a petri dish and grew this tissue just of single cells on a flat plane. and we cut the cells,
Starting point is 00:12:39 lacerated the cells, and if you do nothing to them, over the course of about seven, eight to ten to fourteen days, that the cells will grow back and heal. So that's what it typically takes. So we took breast milk from mothers before they came to a seven-day event, and we put that breast milk on the lesion,
Starting point is 00:13:03 and we saw some sense. cell growth, like, oh, there's some cell growth, but it took some time, days for it to heal. But when we took the plasma of people after they finished the seven-day event, and we took the breast milk from their plasma, when we lacerated the cells, the cells were completely healed in 48 hours. We don't know if it's IG, we don't know what it is, but there's information in the blood that's affecting the breast milk, that's pro-growth, that's pro-life, pro-health, that's causing this, whoever is receiving that, getting information to really nurture it in its environment. 48 hours, you see a complete change. So we reproduce that study as well. One of the studies that
Starting point is 00:13:45 has blown my mind is just we had two of them actually. When we did our fMRI studies with advanced meditators, we found an area of the brain that actually grew in volume. Like it grew new neurons that grew extra connections. And that's the area of the body. that is connected to the default mode, which is connected to where you have an awareness of your body's orientation and space. That exact area that catches you from trying to predict the future based on the past. That's what the default does. It wanders to a predictable known. So in our work, we labor for the present moment and the act of catching yourself going unconscious and returning back to the present moment is exactly how you become more conscious and less unconscious. And it takes an
Starting point is 00:14:33 enormous amount of energy, as you know, an enormous amount of awareness to get good at this. But if you keep practicing, like building a muscle, that circuitry is developed because you're using it. So we said, wow, would there be factors in the blood that would cause neurogenesis, neurons to grow? And so we took the plasma of advanced meditators. We put them on these tiny little neophyte cells. And as a result, they actually grew new connections and sprouted in ways dramatically different than the controls. So we know that there's information in the blood that creates neurogenesis. We studied 63 different diseases. In those 63 different diseases, there was a unanimous change in every single person's pain levels and their levels of energy or fatigue.
Starting point is 00:15:24 They're dramatic improvement in both of those. So we did the study. We said, could the body be making its own pharmacy of morphine or opiates by thought alone. One particular classification was so enriched that we had to dilute the serum to be able to take the measurement. It was that concentrated. So without taking any pill or taking any exogenous substance at the end of seven days, independent of the disease, the body was making its natural pain relievers and that chemical also creates a state of euphoria. And then the last one, just kind of where we're going is just we've done great studies with the human microbiome. We've got the largest, largest studies in the world on the microbiome. And we've gotten like thousands of people to participate in pre and post
Starting point is 00:16:13 measurements at the end of seven days. And at the end of seven days, there are significant and dramatic changes in the person's microbiome, like at least 14 different different really, really powerful probiotic microbiomes, microbiomes that diminish cancer production and reduce inflammation and increase response to cancer therapy and a host of other things. And the intriguing part is, number one, it's seven days. The other intriguing part is that the person's not changing their diet.
Starting point is 00:16:49 They're not staying away from sugar or alcohol or wine and they're not taking probiotics. you know, they're doing, they're not changing anything like that. And typically if you do that matter to matter, it takes three to six months to see a change. But at the end of seven days, these dramatic changes in the human microbiomes suggest they're not the same person. Because if they were the same person, they'd have the same microbiome. So the person, the evidence is conclusive over and over again that the person is actually changing. And that's really why we do meditation. We don't do meditation to heat. heal or to create a better life, we do meditation to change. And when we change, we heal. And when we change our life changes. I mean, the overcoming process is the becoming process. You have to become so conscious of your unconscious thoughts, the ones that are hardwired in the brain as beliefs that say, I can. It's too hard. Something's wrong with me. It's my mother's fault. I'll never change. It's my ex's fault. You know, whatever that is. You got to become so conscious of your
Starting point is 00:17:53 unconscious behaviors, how you speak, how you act, if you suffer, if you complain, if you blame, you make excuses. That's not the new person you want to become. You've got to leave that person behind. And then you've got to look at the emotions that keep you anchored to the past and the story you tell about the past that keeps that memory alive in the body. Yeah, and it's a lie. 50% of it is a lie. That's what neuroscience says. So people are reliving a miserable life that they never even had just to reaffirm their addiction to that emotion to excuse themselves from changing. What they're really saying is it was that event that happened 10 years ago that changed me and I have not been able to change since. So if you want to become happy, you got to stop
Starting point is 00:18:36 being unhappy. So you got to become so conscious of your unconscious thoughts, behaviors, and emotions that you don't default when you return back into your life and return back to the same personality. Because that same personality is connected to the same personal reality that the person's living with. So they have to be able to think, act and feel differently in the same environment. And that's when you master your life. The fundamental question is in the seven day process, could you come up against all of those things and not say, oh, I can't meditate. It's too hard. This isn't for me. But be curious about what's on the other side of that thought. What's on the other side of that emotion? That's the unknown. And our data shows that
Starting point is 00:19:15 if you get to that point where you want to stop and you go a little further, that's when the brain changes the most because that's when you're breaking out of the known into the unknown. So relaxing into the present moment is relaxing into the unknown. Like the unknown is so unpredictable, it elicits such a survival response. And yet teaching people how to relax into the unknown as they labor for the present moment, there comes a moment where you're conditioning your body to a new mind. The body wants to get up, wants to get aroused, it wants to quit, wants to do something. It's used to feeling from an experience in the environment, and you're denying it that.
Starting point is 00:19:53 It's not eating. It's not smelling. It's not tasting. It's not seeing. It's not tick-tocking. It's not scrolling. It's not doing anything in that stuff. And it's been habituated to rely on all those things that create a feeling.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And so when you feel the frustration, the impatience, the resentment arise in your body, that's when people quit. We discovered if you just, like, training an animal, settle it back down into the present moment until it's no longer the mind, that you're the mind. it will buck back again and want to have its way because it's been conditioned to feel familiar feelings from the past. So if you work into that present moment and a person gets up and runs through the same behaviors every single day and they're habituated into a predictable future and they're used to doing things and getting things done and now you're making the body sit and it wants to get up and wants to check its emails and it's text and social media
Starting point is 00:20:41 and you're noticing your body wants to do that instead of getting up and doing it, bringing your body back to the present moment and executing a will that's greater than the program, is training the animal. And if you can train the animal over and over again and you're uncompromising, and you're just not going to give up because that's the act. Sooner or later, the body surrenders to a new mind. And when it does, there's this liberation of energy. And that energy moves right into the heart.
Starting point is 00:21:07 That energy is stored information in the body, and the body's being freed from the chains of the familiar past and the predictable future. So to answer your question, you can't create from the known. You got to create from the unknown. Getting people to understand how to do that is the process of overcoming yourself. We discovered that the overcoming process
Starting point is 00:21:32 is literally the becoming process because the future, you that already exists in that timeline, you have to become it. So then you have to overcome the old self to become a new self and embody it. So then the next fundamental question, if you're a pragmatist is, well, if a belief is just a thought, I keep thinking over and over again into a hard wired in my brain, and I'm overcoming these beliefs. I can. It's too hard. I can't meditate. I'll never change. And what thought, do you want to fire and wire in your brain? Like, I do believe in myself.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Like, I can do this. And remember to think that way. And with intention and with attention, review it in your mind, repeat it in your mind. Remember it so you don't forget it. Nerve cells that fire together. Wire together. You start and start. stalling the circuitry in your brain. Keep doing it. The more of those neurons fire, the more automatically they fire, the easier it gets. Now, you're creating a new belief. That's the new voice in your head that says that I can. Now, there's no magic there. It's just stop thinking this way, start thinking this way. Okay, if I complain and I blame and I make excuses and I feel sorry for myself and I judge everyone, a happy person, that makes me unhappy. I can't have to stop doing that.
Starting point is 00:22:38 So how am I going to be with my ex? How am I going to be with my coworker? How am I going to be with my partner? How many be with my kids? How am I going to be in my life? And this is what many people become aware of when they are in the process of healing. Like, I just had a one hour great meditation, and then I spent the rest of the day acting as my old self or feeling like my old self. Okay, I got to act differently with my ex. What would love do? What would greatness look like? So yes, it's important then exactly for the person then to say, okay, I'm worthy of love in my life. Okay, so how should I act differently? Could I forgive?
Starting point is 00:23:15 What would that look like? And the act of closing their eyes and planning their behaviors, mentally rehearsing their actions. When they're truly present, you know this, you're an athlete. Your brain doesn't know the difference between the real life experience and what you're imagining. And now you're installing the neurological hardware in your brain. You're priming your brain.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You're installing circuits to use so you behave differently. Keep reviewing them. And the brain will look like you already did it. Now, your behaviors will match your intentions in your life and you won't default and return back to all personality. Okay. If I've been feeling unhappy, if I've been feeling resentful, if I've been feeling fearful, if I've been feeling unworthy, and I want to be abundant, I can't feel any of those
Starting point is 00:24:01 things or lack. Or I want to be happy. I can't feel all these emotions. I can feel new emotions. Okay. Because we're hypnotized and conditioned to believe that something out there has to happen to take away that lack or separation that we've, when we can disinvest all of our attention and energy
Starting point is 00:24:17 out of this three-dimensional world, when you forget about your body, when you forget about all the people in your life, when you forget about all the objects and things around you, all the places you need to go or the places you've been or the place you're sitting, and you're not thinking about the predictable future, the familiar past,
Starting point is 00:24:32 you've found the sweet spot of the present moment. The moment you get beyond yourself, you're passing through the eye of the needle from 3D physical reality into that quantum reality. And in the quantum, everything's connected. So all you need is a coherent brain, which is a function of a clear intention. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And combine that with an elevated emotion, heartfelt emotion, and the heart produces a profound, coherent magnetic field. When you are in that state where you are literally feeling the emotion of your future before it happens, so many crazy things happen. in that field because now you're creating a coherent signature of information in the quantum field.
Starting point is 00:25:17 The closer you are or the more connected you are to that field, the shorter amount of time it should appear in three-dimensional reality. When we create from the field instead of from matter, we can shorten the distance between the thought of what we want and the experience of having it. And you just got to get to that place where you're not preoccupied by or your awareness is no longer invested in this three-dimensional world. You've got to become unaware of everything around you, become aware of nothing but you. And in that place, if you can combine that clear intention, the thought being the electrical charge in the quantum field, and the elevated emotion,
Starting point is 00:25:55 the feeling being the magnetic charge, I have a Wi-Fi signal. And when there's a vibrational match between your energy and some potential in the quantum field, you no longer have to go do anything to get it. So then the possibility will appear in no time. because you created from no time. And then what does that prove to you? It proves that you're the creator of your life. Oh my God, I forgot. Well, that was really easy when I got out of the way. But the person who's truly interested in proving to themselves that it's the truth, then they're involved in the experiment. It means they can't get up from their meditation as the same person who sat down because if they do, nothing happened. You've got to transform your biology,
Starting point is 00:26:35 your neurosurcuit changes, your neurochemistry changes, your hormones change, your gene expression changes, you change in that process. And so we've worked for years to demystify the process. What we discovered is that it's the simple formula of being relaxed in your heart, and the more relaxed you are in your heart, the more awake you are in the brain. That's just the way it goes. Instead of stressed out unconscious and being in a program, you can teach people actually how to sustain the state and the heart is the creative center. We have to fall in love with our creation. And when the heart moves into coherence, we've measured this so many times. An energy makes it to the heart. The moment it makes it to the heart, it tells the brain it's time to create.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Thank you for tuning in. Continue strengthening your mind by listening to our other episodes.

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