The Resilient Mind - Try Too Hard & It Won't Come. Do Nothing & It Won't Either - Dr. Joe Dispenza

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

Dr. Joe Dispenza is a renowned author, speaker, and educator in the fields of neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics. He has spent over three decades studying the mind-body connection and the ...ways in which we can harness our thoughts and emotions to create positive change in our lives.This episode is brought to you in partnership with Chris Williamson. For more inspiring videos visit: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisWillxTake action and strengthen your mind with The Resilient Mind Journal. Get your free digital copy today: ⁠https://bit.ly/Download_JournalExplore tools from past guests of the podcast. Some links below are affiliate links, meaning we may earn a commission at no extra cost to you:💓 HeartMath: https://www.heartmath.com/resilient🧠 Muse: https://choosemuse.com/resilientmind🌿 Brain Ritual: https://www.brainritual.com/THERESILIENTMIND🌍 The Resilient Mind Podcast is a proud member of 1% for the Planet — building resilient minds and a resilient planet. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How do you marry this need for hard work with the insights that you have around envisioning your future? I just want to define hard work first because I think I don't see hard work is the way people see hard work. I mean, I'm a very immersive person. So if I'm going to get good at something, I'm going to put my mind, my body, my heart and soul. behind whatever it is I'm going to do. And I do that because I like it. You know, I like to learn. I like to experience.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I like to grow. And I think you can get really good at doing it one way. And the hard work, you know, all the stuff we talked about, get really good at doing it and become successful and then have just about everything you want. But you may not truly have happiness. You just may have a lot of things and you got really good at doing it, right? Okay. So for me, I said there's got to be another way.
Starting point is 00:01:00 There's got to be another way to do it that's different than the way that I've done it. I've gotten really good at doing that. Is there another way to create where I don't actually have to go and do something? If I could change my energy, and I've been at this long enough to tell you that nobody changes until they change their energy. If I change my energy, will my life change? That's kind of the experiment that I'm interested in. Okay. So what piece of knowledge, what piece of information, let me find the information that can help me build the model of understanding that this is actually possible.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I'm not watching Netflix. I'm not watching Ted Lasso. I'm not watching suits. I'm not watching the news. I'm not watching the game. I'm reading this information because I want to understand the what and the why. Okay. Now I got it. Okay. Quantum physics says, Einstein says, the field is the sole governing agency of the particle. The field controls the particle. Particle doesn't control the particle. Energy controls matter. Okay. All right, let me build this model a little bit further. Okay. if the field is the sole governing agency of the particle, then it's not matter that's emitting the field. It's actually a field that's actually slowing down in frequency and creating matter. Okay, I'm telling you all this because I'm using quantum physics as a way to help us understand that mind and matter are inextricably combined.
Starting point is 00:02:15 It's impossible to separate the two. Okay. Well, it works on the very tiny level of subatomic particles, but can it work on a greater level? Can you make real-life events happen in your life and collapse the wave function? Okay, well, if I'm matter trying to change matter, if I'm Joe Dispenza, aware of that I'm local in space and time, immersed in the illusion of this virtual reality experience, this hologram, then I've got to play by the rules of Newtonian physics, but you've got to predict and plan and do a lot of things, okay? Okay, what if I could get to the field? What if I could become pure consciousness and be aware of nothing physical and material, become nobody, become no one in nothing and nowhere,
Starting point is 00:02:56 and no time become pure consciousness and move to that realm beyond space and time. Okay. Let me just say, okay, if I could get there as pure consciousness, and I'm not aware of my body, not aware of my environment, not aware of time, and I'm in the field. Okay, what are the principles of the field? Everything's connected. Everything's frequency. Everything's energy. There's less separation. There's more wholeness. Okay. So if I could get to the field and I can create from the field instead of from matter as an experiment, could I then begin to produce changes in the field that ultimately would change the hologram of three-dimensional reality. Okay?
Starting point is 00:03:30 So I may not be very good at at the beginning, so it's going to take some unlearning and changing my beliefs about a lot of things and studying to make sure that when I do it, that I know what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. Okay. So nothing happens. Do I go back to just going back the other way or am I just not that good? So maybe I'm just not that good yet. Like maybe I've got to get better at it.
Starting point is 00:03:50 So I'm going to practice again. I'm going to keep building my model through experience. and then all of a sudden you start noticing changes. Now, the hard work was worth the effort when I start seeing the effects that it creates in my life. So I think that there's a delicate balance between intention, and that's getting clear on what you want, and surrender, which means trusting in the outcome. And if you over-intend, you're working really hard, and you're trying really hard. And if you over surrender, you're lazy and lethargic and you're not doing anything, right? So it's kind of a razor's edge when you talk about hard work because for me, it really is about building a model of understanding and then being able to immerse myself in the experience to prove to myself that it actually could be the truth.
Starting point is 00:04:40 So the hard work is just good, clean effort and getting so lost in the act of what you're doing that the act actually becomes the experience. I know that for me, when I get to that point where I've stretched myself past the point where I normally stop, especially in a meditation, if I go one more time, it's always worth the effort. Something changes when I go past that point. And I think that works in all kinds of ways. So I think hard work for me is just immersing myself in until I start seeing effects. There's a line from Machia Valley where he says, God doesn't want to do everything. some of it is up to you. I think that's a nice blending of those two.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah. I have another friend who we were at a party, my birthday party actually last year, and we were walking back toward his car, who was parked nearby, and he was going to give me a lift home. And I was waiting for him to beep the car so that I could get in.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And he didn't, and the door was open. Did you not lock your car? He says, I don't lock my car. That's interesting. Why don't you do that? And he says, I'm not sure, man. The universe just has my back. and locking your car, I think that's just a sufficient low lift
Starting point is 00:05:51 that you might as well do it anyway. But that line really stuck with me, the universe has my back. And the times when I feel like that's the case, the times when I feel like I'm swimming downstream, not upstream, life's better. Undeniably life's better. Well, you may have to put 10 in and get one out in the beginning. And then if you stick with it, you put one in, you get 10 out.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And that's when it gets fun. So there'll be a lot of people listening who, again, the people who pray at the altar of raw cognition, right, very, very utilitarian, materialistic, that left brain is always on. How can they learn to expand their view of what contributes to happiness and well-being and fulfillment and achievement in life? What would you say to the person who's still unsure? Well, I think it was last year. We were at an event, a week-long event, and we do a lot of walking meditations because you've got to be able to stand as it, walk as it,
Starting point is 00:06:56 sit as it, lay down as it. And so we do a lot of walking meditations to embody it. And it was in Cancun, Mexico. There was 2,200 people at that event. We were on the beach at sunrise. The sun was coming up. It was one of the last meditations, you know, and I just, I looked at all these people, and they were looking, facing the sun, and they had their hands over their heart, and their eyes were closed.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And so many of them, like, had tears of joy rolling down their face. They were so incredibly joyful, so incredibly grateful, so worthy in that moment. And I realized, my God, nobody is making them happy in that moment but them. And I think when we hit these points where we finally break free from the chains, you know, of our own limitations, I think when we overcome the emotional addictions that keep us tormented and reliving the past, I think that the overcoming of those emotional addictions, the side effect is joy. It's the freedom of expression without feeling limited in any way. and I just, I can tell you that, again, this is only my experience, but when I look at an audience of people, you know, at the end of seven days, and I always tell them, nobody's making you happy but you. And all you've done is decided who not to be and who to be, and you've sat with yourself long enough to change that. So when people do that and they get to that point where they're working, worthy to receive. They showed up enough times when they could have laid in bed or skipped a meditation, but they didn't. That they kept showing up. I think the universe only gives us what we think we're worthy of receiving, right? And so the person who's feeling that level of happiness,
Starting point is 00:08:55 that level of joy, because they've made themselves happy, then they're okay with you, and they're okay with everybody. And I think that's the important point is that when we overcome ourselves, the side effect of that is true joy. Thank you for listening. Continue strengthening your mind by subscribing and listening to our other episodes.

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