The Resilient Mind - You Don’t Attract What You Want, You Attract What You Are - Dr. Joe Dispenza

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

Dr. Joe Dispenza is a renowned author, speaker, and educator in the fields of neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics. He has spent over three decades studying the mind-body connection and the ways in which we can harness our thoughts and emotions to create positive change in our lives.Take action and strengthen your mind with The Resilient Mind Journal. Get your free digital copy today: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/Download_JournalSpecial thanks to Lewis Howes, subscribe to his channel here: https://www.youtube.com/c/lewishowesWatch the full interview on Lewis's page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402NBfm1exg🌍 The Resilient Mind Podcast is a proud member of 1% for the Planet — building resilient minds and a resilient planet. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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So then you'd have to feel those emotions before the experience occurred. And if you understood that you could dissociate all of your attention from this three-dimensional reality and have no attention on anything known and understand it's the field that creates matter, that matter that emits the field.

And if you could get to that place and change your energy with a clear intention and elevated emotion, your heart starts beating in this beautiful rhythm like a drum. We've measured it so many times. And when that occurs, the next thing that happens, the heart informs the brain.

It's safe to create now. So the person relax. into the present moment and then we see this like if you took a big sheet you know in a blanket and you went like a bat the energy of the heart actually informs the brain to move into these beautiful elegant states of alpha brainwave patterns coherent alpha and that's saying what's the next dream what is it the next what's the next opportunity you want to experience that's a state of creation so now you have a Wi-Fi signal you got a coherent brain that's a directive that's a signal out

and you got this coherent heart, that's what draws it to us, right? You combine those two, and if there's a vibrational match between your energy and that potential in the quantum field and you're feeling abundant, and whatever your brain associates with being abundant, that's your call. That's what the creative process is. This is the creative center. The brain frontal lobe actually says, what would it be like to be creative or abundant?

I don't know what it would be like to be abundant. Well, then go read a few books on people. people who actually became abundant and realized it wasn't a glorious process. They failed miserably. They got betrayed. They learned a lot of lessons, but they persevered. And what are the qualities of that person that you could embody? That's the key, right?

Because it's not about wealth. It's who you become, right? Because people think it's about their wealth, but it's the becoming process. It's the overcoming. You've attracted that, right? Of course. So then you've got to turn the battle. battleship around because most people say I can't feel grateful for my wealth because it hasn't

happened yet. That's the hypnosis, waiting for the experience that happened to feel grateful. Well, that's Newtonian. That's three-dimensional reality. That's cause and effect. The quantum, you've got to feel it in order for you to experience it. Okay. So this heart becomes like an amplifier and it sends that signal out and that frequency can carry the thought of your abundance. Suffering cannot carry the thought of your abundance. Lack, can't, cannot carry the thought of your abundance lack cannot carry the thought of your abundance it's a different frequency right we feel different feelings like suffering we think different thoughts all right so so people can say I'm abundant I'm abundant abundant abundant

all they want but that thought is never making it to the body because it's stopping at the brain stem because the body's saying I'm miserable I'm unhappy I'm in lack right so so the affirmation doesn't work right okay so let's go one step further yes so if you practice this and you actually understood you know well we teach this pretty well but if you If you learned it just like learning how to play handball, or learning how to hit a golf ball, learning how to dance a salsa,

you just practice the form and you got really good at it. If you were doing it properly, then, what would be the outcome? The experiment of being abundant would be that you would have to feel that feeling. It's so good at doing it with your eyes closed. You had to do it with your eyes open. Now, why?

Because if you're feeling the feelings of your emotions, your future you're no longer looking for them because you're in the future now your your body is so objective that it's believing it's living in that reality where you are abundant and as long as you feel that emotion you're not separate from it any longer in a longer and lack you're no longer looking for it to occur say why hasn't it happened yet if you're feeling abundant why would you look right you would so so so then our job then is to be able to maintain that modified state of mind and body so okay so does that mean like you

should check your bank account tomorrow and see if there's a half a million dollars in it? No. You keep tuning into that potential and then here come the synchronicities. What's that? That's feedback in your environment. The universe saying, hey, Lewis, whatever you're doing, all of a sudden we are starting to create, right? And I think it's so important for people to remember that they're the creators of their lives instead of the victim of their lives, right? So the victim is saying, I'm feeling this way because that person or that circumstance or I don't have any money is causing me to feel this way. This is my relationship with money. What that really means is I'm using my lack to reaffirm my dependency, my addiction, my conditioning.

That's my relationship with money is that I put my attention on money because I don't have it. So the relationship with money is, of course, built on lack. And so when they don't have it, they feel bad and what they're really saying is my outer environment my reality is actually controlling the way I feel and the way I think so Lewis why are you in a good mood why in a bad mood things are going bad today so this unconscious program of victimization is saying that that that we're allowing our environment to influence the way we feel and the way we think isn't that isn't that what victimization isn't and and the stronger the emotion we have to our lack the

more we put our attention on the fact that we don't have it right So then the person has forgotten that they're creating reality because what they're creating is lack. And they're creating more of it. And then they try harder and they force harder and they control more. And they're more exhausted and their body's tired. And they're breaking down. Right. So the experiment then is let's try it another way.

Let's create from the field instead of from matter. Get a coherent heart. Get a coherent brain. Relax in the heart and energy moves right under the brain. We've measured this a thousand times. And all of a sudden the person moves into these beautiful, elegant brainwave states where they're super-creating. right? So the longer you're conscious of that energy, the more you draw that future to you. So then what does the synchronicity mean? It means whatever you're doing inside of you is producing that

effect outside of you. Pay attention to what you did. And do it again. So generate a little bit more abundance. Just do it for an experiment? Now, when the synchronicity happens, do you think you feel suffering or do you think you feel a little excitement? You feel inspired, right? So then that synchronicity is saying, use this energy, use this feeling. It should be easier for you to feel this now. and go back and do it again. Keep the experiment going. Then here comes the promotion. Here comes the email.

Here comes the person you meet at the right time. Well, we have something happening here. And then that becomes the momentum, right? So then we generate abundance. That's how we do it. And the relationship... It doesn't just happen by accident. We generate it.

We generate abundance, right? So then if you have an hour meditation where you're tuning into your abundance, in future but then you're spending the other 15 hours a day in lack don't expect anything to change you defaulted you're back to the old energy and if you say it's that person or that circumstance or that bank account I'm gonna say you're back to the unconscious program of being a victim right and so then so then so then let's go a step further if your personality creates your

personal reality and it does and your personality is made of how you think how you act and how you feel then the present personality who's listening to this podcast has created the present personal reality called their life. Nothing big there, which means if you want to change your personal reality, you're going to have to change your personality. Nothing changes in your life until you change. Right. So then 95% of who we are is on autopilot, right? It's a programmed thoughts, hardwired thoughts, beliefs, perceptions, unconscious habits and behaviors. And really, really, really emotional responses that tend to be really knee-jerk and automatic, right? So if 95% of who we are

as a set of unconscious programs, then the first step to change is becoming conscious of those unconscious thoughts. Now, people think when they sit down to do the work and make their change, that they're doing something wrong. No, those thoughts have to come up. I can. I'm not worthy. It's never going to work. But the person who's truly persevering towards their abundance realizes just because they have that thought doesn't mean it's true. They're curious on what's on the other side of that thought. Ah, well, that's just the thought, right? And nerve cells that no longer fire together, no longer wire together. So you keep moving past that thought, it has less and less power over you, right? Now, you have power over it, or better yet, you're using your brain in the proper way

instead of being a victim to your brain, right? If you complain about money, if you judge people who have it, if you rush when you're in lack, if you cheat when you don't have what you need. An abundant person doesn't do that. You got to look at that and say, I got to break these habits. Oh, my God, if I truly want to be abundant, I can't act this way. Now, here's the big one. If I truly want to be a new personality that's in a new personal reality, I can't take lack with me.

I can't take unworthiness. I can't take the story that goes along with it with my parents or my grandparents. or my ex or whatever, that story has to end, right? I mean, if not now, when, right? How do people end those stories? Well, of course. Well, how many times do we have to forget until we stop forgetting and start remembering? That's the game, right?

That's the game called change. How many times we have to go unconscious and default to that old personality when we catch ourselves and stop doing that and get conscious? That's the moment of change. So the problem is, is that most people wake up in the morning and they think, let me think of my problems, right? The brain is a record of the past, right? So they think about their problems.

They don't have enough money, and those problems are usually connected to certain people at certain places with certain objects and certain things. What didn't work out or who screwed me over? So the moment they wake up, the moment they remember those problems, they're thinking in the past. So now they're firing and wiring the memory.

They're keeping the memory of past alive in their mind. The problem is every one of those, memories has an emotion associated with it because we've experienced it so when they feel the lack when they feel the unhappiness when they feel the anxiety now the body's in the past thoughts being the language of the brain feelings being the language of the body how we think and how we feel creates our state of being but the conditioning process starts because conditioning only needs a thought and a feeling a memory or an image and an emotion and a

stimulus and response and you're conditioning your body to become the mind of that emotion and now the memory's not in the brain now the memory's buried subconsciously in the body and the body becomes the mind of that emotion so the body is living in lack and it's believing it's a body is is that through the nervous system or is that through neurochemicals everything so the so the body's so objective that it does not know the difference between the real-life experience that's creating the lack and the emotion that you're creating by thought alone called lack the body's believing it's living the same past experience every day it's

it why because the end product of an experience is an emotion well if you your life is changing but you're still feeling lack don't expect anything that you you won't even see it you'll walk right past it you're viewing your life through the lens of the past okay so okay so okay so then person realizes that all their friends are making money and they're doing stuff and they're like wow i'm really feeling lack now. So then when it no longer becomes about your abundance and it becomes about your change, that's a valuable moment. When it's no longer about your healing, but it's about your change, I paid attention to a lot of people in the last couple of years tell their story. The people who heal in this work from cancers and all kinds of chronic health conditions and Parkinson's and

strokes and paralysis and all kinds of things. It's rare genetic disorders. It never was about, when they've really got in the game, it was never about their healing. It was about what do I need to change in order to heal? When the game goes like that. So then the person who's feeling lack on some level or another,

it's not just in the mind, it's in the body, right? Let me hear what you say that again. When someone's looking for abundance, It's never about the abundance. It's about the change they need to make for healing. No. I'm using healing as an example. But let's use abundance as an example.

When you understand that you cannot get abundant, when it's no longer about the game called abundance, it's about the game called change. What do I need to change? The more I change, the more I'll be abundant. Yes. So then it's no longer about why haven't, how come it hasn't happened?

That's the old personality, separate from the experience. still in lack asking that question. Which is creating your current reality. Which is, which is reaffirming it because that's the lens you're perceiving it through. Okay. So we should be focusing more on what we need to change every moment as opposed to the abundance or the healing. Well, the word meditation means to become familiar with. Sit with yourself long enough and not turn on your cell phone, not scroll through your social media and do no TikTok, no emails, no, none of that stuff. Don't just sit and close your eyes and watch the thoughts that come up. That's

the exact reason why you're not abundant. Watch what you want to do when you're feeling lack to take away the lack and there's always something you would do to take it away. But sit with the lack and be curious on what's on the other side of it, right? Because the body's programmed into lack now subconsciously, right? So the emotion of lack drives our thoughts and drives our behaviors. So it makes sense then that if an emotion is a record of the past, then we're doing things habitually from the past. We're thinking in the past, right? So, so lower the volume to the emotion every time you notice lack comes up and just like breaking any addiction, there's going to be cravings, right? So the body's going, hey, Lewis, it's been about two hours

since you're so used to doing this thing. Yeah, you've been thinking lacking thoughts about 150,000 times a day and you're just going to stop now. The body's going to start influencing the mind and saying it's not going to work. You're a loser. It didn't work before. It's too hard or everybody else. That's why it's so hard for people to like lose weight or get in shape because you might try it for a few days and then the cravings or I'm tired and I want to go default back into the old personality. Right because why? Because the body which has been conditioned the mind. The body is the unconscious mind. So the body's got used to the familiar feeling. They don't even know it's lack. It's just how they feel. It's like guilt. So okay, so let me finish.

Okay, so the hardest part about all of this is making a different choice. And the moment you decide to make a different choice, get ready, it's going to feel. feel uncomfortable. Right. It's going to feel unfamiliar. Your body's all of a sudden saying, hey, Lewis, why don't you start thinking those same exact thoughts, do the same things, make the same choices, demonstrate the same behaviors, have the same experiences. So you could feel that feeling of lack of complaint again to somebody, call somebody up and say how miserable your life is, right? And that's the known, right? So the body is always influencing the mind to return back to the familiar territory. Through a default. Yeah. Default, okay. All right. So now the person

says okay what thoughts do I not want what what what an abundant person think this way the people in our work that have created I had a guy come to our event I love this guy he healed himself to try to take his life three times when he told me that when he came to our work he didn't have two dollars to rub together he's worth hundreds of millions of dollars and just keeps giving it away Wow. His lesson, his lesson was, and that wasn't the wealth, was who he became. So it's the overcoming process that is the becoming process.

Who did he become in that journey? Exactly. He had to get beyond all of those thoughts of his past, all the mistakes he made, all the things he did wrong, all the money he owed there, all of that. That was like, he just had to no longer be that person any longer. But he did say, how would a wealthy person live? And when he created his wealth, what do you think the first thing he did? Started giving?

Giving it away. Why? Because an abundant person doesn't have any lack. And he knows how to create more of it. And he's in the experiment. Well, what would happen if I keep giving it away? He keeps getting more. That's a good experiment to have because he is actually living in that abundant state.

He also had tremendous healings taking place because when you heal your heart, heal your mind. I mean, it's just the way it is. We saw it so many times, right? So he healed his heart. He got an upgrade. He got an upgrade, right? So then the next fundamental question is, how would an abundant person think? Write it down, dude, and fire and wire those thoughts in your brain and install the hardware. Keep doing it with attention and intention. It becomes the new voice in your head. It becomes a software program. Then say, okay, how am I going to be in my life today? What What an abundant person. How would they behave?

And before you reach for your cell phone and start scrolling through your social media, close your eyes and rehearse in your mind how that person would walk, how they would breathe, how they would smile, how they would greet people, how they would be on Zoom calls, how would they be in traffic, how would they be at dinner? And the act of closing your eyes

and mentally rehearsing the act. If you're truly present, the brain does not know the difference between the real life experience and what you're imagining. In fact, just a little bit of time, you start to install the neurological hardware to look like you already did it. Now the brain is no longer a record of the past.

It's primed for the future. Keep doing it. Keep rehearsing. No different than playing an instrument. No different than learning how to dance. No different than learning how to act or play a sport. Everybody's always rehearsing, right? The rehearsal process changes the brain to look like you've already done it.

already experienced it now what's the essential part of that the hardware is in place now we got to do is step into the footprint keep doing it it becomes a software program you start acting like an abundant person everything changes your energy changes your mood changes the way you walk we breathe your posture changes you're out of the known yes you got to condition the body now emotionally into the future can't open your eyes in morning until you are feeling worthy to receive and if you can't feel worthy to receive, then if not now when. If it takes you two hours to get there, ask me if it's worth

30 years of running trying to get what you need matter to matter. Okay, so then the person who wrestles with their lack, they're out of the bleachers and they're on the playing field. Here's what we learned. Here's what we learned. Let's go back to beliefs now. So remember, belief is just the thought you keep thinking over and over again. A belief is something that you keep thinking enough times that you hardwired in your brain and it becomes an automatic program and we have beliefs about all kinds of things money relationships god whatever it is it's all based on what we've been told or our past experiences right the boundaries of those beliefs are our emotions right so let's just say you got betrayed or somebody abused you or your father told you that money was bad and there's

never enough of it or whatever that's a story okay but but somehow it left an impression on you remember that event very clearly and that's kind of rooted in who you are right okay so that emotion then is the boundary of our belief okay so how you think and how you feel creates your state of being if you take a thought and a feeling a thought and a feeling a thought and a feeling a thought and a feeling that's called an attitude you a series of good thoughts with a series of good feelings you say have a good attitude today you have a series of negative thoughts that are connected to a series of negative feelings you say have a bad attitude today so attitudes are just short states of being good attitude in the morning bad attitude in the afternoon if you take an

attitude and attitude and attitude you keep those up and you string attitudes together you create what's called the belief and a belief is just an extended state of being so if you keep thinking the same thought you keep hard wiring it in the brain you keep feeling the same feeling you keep conditioning in your body the redundancy of that cycle over and over again conditions the body to subconsciously become the mind of that belief and all beliefs are subconscious states of being. Okay. Take a belief, a belief, a belief,

and you string them together, you form what's called a perception. Perceptions are just such extended states of being that we're unconscious. And so then we edit out reality. In fact, most people don't see things the way they are. They see things the way they are. Right?

And people are always filling in reality unconsciously based on their memory. They could be married to a person for 40 years and they don't see the person, they see the memory of the person, right? And there's research to prove this, okay? So how do we change a belief or perception about herself for our lives, okay?

We've studied this. Okay, let's just say that lack is ingrained in there. You got the story, you lived on the streets, you lost everything, you got betrayed, your business partner, took everything, took your wife, took, you got the story in the half, okay? Okay, you gotta start telling the new story of the future, right? You gotta believe in that future,

more than you have to believe in the past. So how do you do that? You only believe in the past when you feel the emotions of the past. The only time you're going to believe in the future is when you feel the emotions in the future, right? Okay, so in order for us to change a belief or perception about our self and our lives We have to make a decision with such firm intention That the amplitude of that decision carries a level of energy That's greater than the hardwired programs in your brain and the emotion emotional conditioning your body and your body literally has to respond to your mind that the choice that you're making to change in that moment becomes a moment in time that you never forget and here's the key physically physically the stronger the

emotion you feel when you make that choice the more you remember the decision okay so then how do we down regulate that old belief if the trauma created emotional quotient of six or seven then your decision to change your beliefs got to be a nine right and you got to come out of your resting state and that moment has to define you you could say I know exactly where I was the time and day it was who I was with when I made my mind up to change right because you created a long-term memory long-term memories are created from strong emotion right but at the amplitude of that emotion is

greater than the betrayal boom the body starts responding to mind and you're actually giving your body a taste of the future emotionally So you brand your what's possible. No, your body's actually getting the taste of that future event. It's experiencing the future now. Exactly. Big explosion on the quantum field. Big explosion.

So the side effect of that is if you combine that clear intention with that elevated emotion, you're basically remembering your future and it looks no different than remembering your past. Think neurologically within the circuits of that memory and feel within the emotions of that new belief. And watch your life begin to change because nothing changes in our life that we change. And when we change our energy, we change our life. So now the experiment all of a sudden is no longer based on it being hard or trying or wishing or wanting or hoping. That's what we do when we're in lack of separation. It's about change.

So then when we finally realize in order for us to become abundant, we have to overcome the old personality. And that's 95% of who we are, right? So then the side effect of the beginning of this process is a lot of discomfort. It is a lot of discomfort because you're stepping outside the known into the unknown and now you can't predict. It's scary. No, no, you'd rather hold on to your lack. The pain, suffering. You'd rather tell the story of that, at least it makes you feel something that's familiar.

When you step outside and you're saying, I'm not going to complain about money any longer, I don't have any, I'm not going to judge other people who do, I'm not going to say I can't, I can't, I can't. I'm not worthy. It's never going to work. All those things got to go. I'm not going to feel lack. I'm not going to feel unworthy. I'm not going to feel separation. I'm not going to feel resentment.

These are the things that are keeping my reality the same. Now it's no longer about abundance, about who you become. So the overcoming process becomes the becoming process. And so many people come through this work. They want abundance. They want healing. They want a new relationship. They want a new career.

They want the mystical. But really, they want wholeness. Thank you for tuning in. Continue strengthening your mind by listening to our other episodes.