The Rest Is Entertainment - Antiques Roadshow Secrets

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

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Live passionately, drink responsibly. Copyright 2024. Bacardi, its trade dress and the bat device are trademarks of Bacardi and Company Limited. Rum 40% alcohol by volume. Hello and welcome back to another episode of the Rest is Entertainment Questions episode. Questions and Answers edition. I'm Richard Osmond. Oh I'm Marina Hyne. Yeah maybe we should write it down. Yeah hold the big cue. There are some actors actually who just have to have the words written on cue cards and just held like

that for them. I never use autocue because of my eyesight. I genuinely think you should never use autocue if you can avoid it. Otherwise you just say the same thing. For example, I don't think you've ever used the exact same form of words twice. To mess up the intro. To open an episode. And you wait till I do a top three. I'm not going to mess it up this week. I saw a good comment this week which is please no more top threes and right underneath it was please can we have more top threes. There you go. Can I ask you a question that comes in from Aid Bond. Aid asks, what is the most expensive sport event to cover for TV? That's a nice concise question. It is. It's got a very simple answer, but it's quite a long answer. We can talk about other

things as well. The answer is the Olympics, because if you just shot the events, there's 3,800 hours of television. Because obviously there are so many the events there's 3800 hours of television. Wow. Because obviously there are so many events that's happening all the time, mostly simultaneously. I've also talked to someone who's very knowledgeable about this. Other expensive events we'll discuss first. Formula One, you need to cover about 6km of track. There's a complicated subcut system, so the director might have to cover the battle for fourth place.

This is really difficult to get it all right and obviously going quite fast. Yeah, a huge amount of different cameras is the thing. Different cameras, golf obviously the physical scale of the area on which you're playing, Tour de France. Oh my god, that's quite big. You never know where the exact, you know, accident's going to be. I mean, the Champions League, a big champions league game, and the most expensive camera that you know, those are, and actually, you know, they have them at the cricket now as well, that those cameras that are on the four

wires, that six figures just to get that camera in, but people love the shots that come from that. The boat race actually is very expensive. Worth every penny. It's, yeah, quite, snooker, very cheap. Who'd have thought? But going back to the Olympics, so much innovation happens. And so what we can expect this year that is different, even things like TikTok are going to have an Olympics hub, things that just didn't happen before.

So everything will be, it's always the same, but different. It's always a huge catalyst for new stuff. NBC is partnering with creators, but they've also, NBC have got one of their legendary broadcasters who's now no longer with us. They have got an AI of him doing some highlights packages. I know. Who's that?

Al Michaels, he's the legendary. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And they've got an AI of him. Are you sure it says AI and it doesn't just say Al? Yeah, no. Yeah, you're right. It could be actually just quite a low five. Yeah, Al is turning up. Some of the events will be done in 8k for various reasons and broadcasters. In 8k? Yeah, I know, 8k. Do you know what that means?

Yes, I do actually, because someone wrote a joke about it in our show and I didn't know what it meant beforehand. Oh really? What is 8k? 4k is, you know, sort of very ultra-high definition. 8k, there are some things in 8K that's sort of extreme amount of pixels. I love the fact you said you knew what it meant and yeah I mean it's very very very very high definition, okay, of which there could be no need and most people's technology wouldn't be able to even show it back to them so what on earth is the point? Vertical video for phones because people don't hold their phone to the side, yeah, so there'll be some of that. But you know that effect that they have in the Matrix films? It's called FLOMO and they put so many cameras

around one point. And do you remember you could sort of spin right the way around the suspended, it's really weird. I remember seeing that in the Matrix and thinking, oh my God, that's one of the coolest things I've ever seen. And honestly, three years later, I saw it in a Center Parks advert.

But that's sort of, that's what innovation innovation is now they're saying that for the first time this Olympics that it's possible that you'll be able to do that this time and they're gonna have very very cinematic lenses that give you much better depth of field so the coverage is always kind of revolutionary and it will be exciting to watch and the funding of that is possible because the Olympics is worldwide and those pictures are shared by an awful lot of channels so as you say the various channels in different countries will have their own local bits and bobs and VT's they're doing but the actual coverage You're getting the actual live coverage is a shared cost between the IOC got something like four and a half or five billion Yeah, the TV rights

but I do think it's a fascinating point that we slightly take the coverage of sports for granted and the incredible people you have who are doing that, who are thinking all the time how do we make this better, how do we make it more immersive, how do we get people inside the action a little bit more. And I know I'll get money because it's the Olympics, so here's my moment to say, can we try this this time? So look for the innovations. Yeah, so the Olympics is essentially like the Olympics, but for camera operators as well because they're like only once every four years,

this is what we train for, this is what we work for, this is our one big opportunity. And so while you're watching incredible sporting endeavor, you're also watching incredible technical endeavor. By the way, we're just talking about the cost of covering an event there, not the rights to events and blah, blah, blah, which is a whole different question. You want definitely a long one to unpack.

Isn't it wonderful how cheap Snooker is to make? I mean, even occasionally you get a slightly different thing. They do now have a camera that hovers over the table so you can properly look down on the balls. But yeah, if you change the way that Snooker is made, people would absolutely lose out. Don't innovate. Innovate slightly, but only very little.

Yeah, yeah. I'm hoping that the TikTok coverage of these things will encourage lots of sports to have slightly quicker versions of it. I've talked before about going to see the volleyball at the London Olympics. I almost walked on court just to say, this is not helping you. I almost got paraded.

This is not helping you any way whatsoever. This is taking forever. You've got this unbelievably great sport, and you are killing it with your point system And so, you know, hopefully tick tock my turn. I would love you to just walk on in various events Can I tell you how you might be able to do this quicker faster and more fun? Can I just say on behalf of everyone sitting in the audience and everyone watch everyone not watching at home? Here's how we get this done in. I would say I'm gonna press a red button for it

But in fact, we'll just do it here. We'll do it on the post So expect us to talk lots about the Olympic coverage, which you're all going to be glued to even if you think you aren't because it's so immersive and it hooks you more than anything. The archery, but where there's a GoPro and a bullseye and the arrow comes towards you. Towards you, that's nice. Yeah, I first saw an arrow on a camera on the top of an arrow in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves. I think that's the first time I've seen it. So yeah, it's time for an innovation.

1906 Olympics was that? Yeah, that was in 1906, Costner in the 1906 Olympics. By the way, Robin Hood, you know the famous story in Robin Hood where someone comes up and hits a bullseye, he's having a competition against someone, and the guy comes up and hits the bullseye dead in the centre and is like, there we go Robin, I beat you, and then Robin Hood comes up, fires his arrow and he splits the arrow and wins. Those two arrows are identical he does not win that's a draw. If the second guy gone second he would have split Robin's arrow they both gone dead in the middle he hasn't got more in the middle than

the other arrow. That's brilliant you can walk on into the into Prince of Thieves and say by the way this wouldn't actually happen because yeah this is no I would just say I declare this a draw guys we go again tie break but you know what I mean it's the yeah any of this it is it's great for the bullcrap it's great for the advertising so if I'm noting we'll buy an extra four slots in this so it's definitely worth it yeah on Twitter everyone going oh my god the the arrow off has gone to penalties like everyone will be turning on that's always bugged me Rob great shot from both of you, but it's a draw.

Should we do a different question? Make it about arrows. Okay. Oh, I love this one. Encorez from Claire says, why are there encores at concerts? And what do artists do while they're waiting to come back on stage? It's usually obvious that there's more to come. So why the drama?

All it is is drama. It goes back to opera, which is where they first had it. They would always have an aria in their back pockets or an aria that they were going to repeat and so everyone would shout encore and brava and back they would shuffle on and do another one. And so it's one of those things where there isn't a clever answer other than it's what people have always done and audiences love it and it's kind of fun for bands. To watch them beg for it.

Yes exactly and that's what they always leave their biggest song because you know you don't want to walk off and people go yeah I think I'm done they've played Mr Brightside let's beat the traffic and some bands will do four or five encores and it goes on forever and that to me I'm out by that point. Do one encore. You can do a maximum of three. One classy, two sweet spot, three. Come on guys. This is an encore. This is like a second half of the concert. I spoke to my brother about what they actually do while they're waiting for that encore and his answer will shock you. He says, I have a drink or a fag. Just go sign the stage. Have a ciggy, you know, just wait for the, you know, boom, boom, boom,

boom, because you haven't played trash yet. So we know you're coming back. And then, yeah, once he's finished his bag, he'll he'll amble on. The place goes crazy. Then Brett comes on. These are two fags. And, and away they go. But it's, you know, it's it's drama that people like, you know, we all love love it because you get to sort of go, oh my God, that was incredible. And then you go, are you kidding me? They're coming back. And we're still such children

because we know, of course we know they're coming back. Of course, but there's a bit of us that's going, but what if they didn't like Coffin Tree this evening? What if they're in a mood and they're not gonna come back? Come on guys, come back on, play the beautiful ones. So there's a tiny bit in our brain that goes, but what if they don't come out? And when they do, that roar is genuine. It's such a weird thing, isn't it? We all kid ourselves

that we're all part of that pantomime and we all enjoy it. Do you know what? Funnily enough when I said to my brother, if I'm allowed to ask my own question, I have my own question, because he said, Oh, I go off and have a drink and have a ciggy I said does anyone ever need the loo during a gig yeah right and if you're in a band you ever need the loo during the gig because you know again you watch the snooker they're nipping off for a wee every frame yeah and he said no never have he said you're so dehydrated anyway up there you know everyone's sweating so much he said we've never ever ever needed to go to the loo during the gig.

And it's the same on TV shows. If you have a very, very long record, I've never, I've never had to go for a wee during a TV show as one of my proudest claims to fame, stick that in the daily express. And then I also asked, is the encore always the same as a different encore in different countries? And Matt said, absolutely. He says, certain bands know that they have songs that are bigger in certain territories than others if you're in Australia you

play that song last if you're in Malaysia you play that song last he said you can even if you're in a country you've not really been in before you can look at your Spotify stats and you can find out exactly which song people respond to in that country so yeah if you if you're in the UK you know exactly what you're playing but in different countries you play different encores. But yeah, I think it's one of those lovely things that makes no sense that we all know about, we're all complicit in, and yet we all still do and everyone... We all suspend our disbelief and love it. Still love it, yeah, exactly.

Well that's what it is, that's performance. It's pantomime really, isn't it? Okay, should we go to a break? Okay, go on then. Guys, we came back! We came back! We could hear everyone's feet stomping during the advert. Demanding the return. Had a quick drink and now here we go. I have a question for you Marina from Alice Picktall. Thank you Alice. She asks, I have a question about media training. Oh yes please. Presumably at some early point in your career

as a celeb, you'll slip up in an interview and someone will pack you off to media training. What are the core lessons that you would learn in Media Training 101? Oh gosh, okay. I mean you could be a CEO, lots of CEOs have it, or you could be a young starlet, you could be all sorts of things. In some ways I always think of media training, they teach you to be boring. Someone I was talking to the other day had appeared in front of a sort of public inquiry and their wife had said, I've never seen you be so boring. Great.

Yes, thank you. Victory. Thank you. And I slightly felt that when, do you remember a few weeks ago during Wimbledon, they said to Emma Raducanu, will you be voting today? And she said, oh, thanks. I didn't actually know that it was the election. People were like, oh that's awful, how disengaged, how whatever. I'm not necessarily sure. The question, are you voting, and you say yes, she knows very well what her next question is going to be. And so she said, oh no, I think I'll just go and do some practice or whatever.

And what they're trying to do is entrap you. Now I spoke to another sportsman who'd just been through some media training and he gave me quite an interesting example of what the firm that he used had told him. It was all about trap words. And so they did a real case study of something that had actually happened. Chris Wokes, the cricketer, was being interviewed by the BBC and he was asked for his views on Joffre Archer, who was born in Barbados, being added to the World Cup squad. He was asked if it was fair that that had occurred.

And he said, fair's probably not the right word, wouldn't be fair morally, but at the same time it's an Asia of international sport. Then we cut forward to Chris Wokes which you can still see on Twitter him saying yeah I'm not sure this is the exact context for all these stories because all these stories came out saying you know it would not be fair morally says Chris Wokes for Jo Joff Arch to pay for England. He's repeated the word fair. He's also added the word morally and he's now in a terrible pickle. It's not his fault by the way and I get told again and he's trying to, you know, and you're now doing a rearguard action where you're telling people to say, so what they're trying to say to you is don't say those certain words. Again, they're trying to make you boring.

You're just trying to sort of take all the heat out of every question but also maybe not to repeat words and this is the same for celebrities for everything. I was actually thinking about something really like one of the first stories I ever wrote. After Kelly Brooke had been sacked from The Big Breakfast for basically not really working out if I can put that politely as a thing, I went down and Lisa Tarbuck had replaced her and I went to The Big Breakfast house and they had this PR who was rather hopeless at the time I won't name and Obviously the question that I was going to ask her was what about what happened to Kelly and she said I think it could

Have been handled better and I was thinking while she was saying it crikey anyway I wrote up the story the PR said well She didn't say that and I said well, you're very welcome to listen to tape, even then when I was very young I thought your job is to have media trained her, you're obviously going to be asked what happened to your predecessor who was unceremoniously ejected, have a way of dealing with it that's just going to take all the heat out of the situation but unfortunately that didn't occur so I'm sorry that I wrote that but it was based on the exact quote. Well there's two interesting sides to media training, one is exactly the one

you're talking about there which is there is an industry that is waiting for you to say something that they can just clip out and use as a headline. And so I do lots and lots of interviews for the book and all sorts of things and I'm always incredibly aware of anything they can use as what they call a pull quote, which is they take half of one of your sentences, they put it in bold at the top of a thing and that's their kind of storyline. You know, Osmond slams BBC or whatever, whatever it might be, when he clearly hasn't slammed the BBC. And having been in the business for a long time, I have in my head all the time, I'm listening all the time and thinking, maybe clip that out.

And occasionally you'll say something you think, oh, no, that's what they're going to go with. So it does mean you can't really talk. It's the enemy of fun discussion. It completely is because interviewed someone really interesting. And they said to me, I think the aim of this is just not to make news. Yeah. Well, you know, I talked on our Tuesday episode about the daily express headlines

and they will sort of take it from anywhere. You do a joke on a show and it will become a headline. So it's sort of impossible now to get around it. And a bit of me thinks that it's so ubiquitous and so stupid that maybe we're going to come out the other side of it and start being able to say what we want to get. But I think people are a bit more savvy. If you read the comments, it's often people just saying, this is nonsense. They didn't

say that. Read the whole thing. Read everything they said. People have become much more media literate. Yeah. You know, there's so much of it that it goes crazy. But you know, you do have to be careful. Even in foreign interviews, I'll make sure I don't say something that could, because they all get picked up on as well as people who read, you know, German interviews and Australian interviews and stuff. If you ever get interviewed for the radio times, they're just, they're always trying to catch you out on something.

They're brilliant. They get newslines all the time. They are so good. And the reason we should say that people want to get off in newsletters is because then it says in an interview with the Radio Times as an example who are excellent at getting newslines. Yeah, the Radio Times is so brilliant. And they're a fantastic magazine. And they will spend like an hour interviewing you and they'll talk about the books and they'll

talk about House of Games and that must be fun when you do this. Yes, that's great fun. And what does it feel like to be XYZ? And then right at the end you go, a lot of pressure on the licence fee at the moment. Do you think it should be abolished? And you'll say one random yeah. But you're like, well look, this one is not for me. And by the way it's not because you don't ever want to give an opinion, but you think, I've just done a whole interview, I've said some things, I've really

enjoyed it, I've said some things that I think are quite funny and represent me and I'm not just gonna say one thing that will be the front cover and the front page and the front page. And you say, you just, you don't want to do it. So there's that side, which is be very, very careful. And in terms of media training for newer people, it is either look, either you make them more charismatic or you make them more boring. Yeah. And it's almost impossible to make people more charismatic.

So by and large, you make them more boring. And that's the training. But the other side of media training, which is really interesting is, and you get it a lot with young footballers particularly, they'll sit and watch it with you and just say, have a look at how you're speaking, have a look at you just slightly spoke over them there, you've just said you know three times in the last sentence.

And people who do media training with footballers love it because footballers are incredibly good at taking instruction, that's been their entire career. You tell them what to do and they do it so that side of media training fascinating which is just watching see how you come across see how you play with others and that kind of thing yes I think a lot of journalists when they hit see a PR recording an interview or publicist in the room recording an interview they feel it's like a sort of hey I've got my own tape so you don't you try to do anything with interview, they feel it's like a sort of, hey, I've got my own tape, so you don't, you try and put everything with these quotes.

Most times it's actually not, and they will play it back if they're trying to build a long-term relationship with this client. They will play it back and say, see what you could have done. We should also say, of course, that social media training is now a big part of media training. And you'll see that suddenly someone will get taken on as, I don't know, a Formula One driver and having been, had a load of lively opinions on absolutely everything, now they're on a team, will say the most anodyne things possible or possibly just to the point where

you know that it's been handed over to someone else and they've probably got some locked account anywhere, somewhere else where they're texting or they're interesting opinions. And by the way, I do not blame them one bit. Not at all. If you say something that people pick up on, it's just so boring. And so it's a shame. We lose out so much by people just desperately trying to find a little headline. I'm refusing to understand the nuance just for the sake of it, which is so...

One of the things I've always tried when I'm writing is that if a politician was making a joke about something to try not because it's so easy to do that and then to say oh they're saying it seriously and it's yeah I mean without wishing to be rude they do say enough stupid things anyway you don't need to misrepresent things and I always find it a bit, when people do that, it was to take a slightly dim view, and I think that's really disgenuous. It was only a joke.

Yes, I always think the absolute classic example of it was when Andy Murray many years ago said his Anyone but England line about winning at football. And then for the rest of his career, everyone goes, God, Andy Murray, why is he so boring? Well, maybe because the one time he did a joke, you literally tore into pieces. And by the way, a perfectly acceptable joke that, Andy Murray, why is he so boring? Well, maybe because the one time he did a joke, you literally tore into pieces. And by the way, a perfectly acceptable joke

that you should be grown up enough to be able to take. So from then on, he was like, do you know what? Maybe I won't do jokes anymore. Maybe I'll just answer questions about tennis because that was a pain in the ass. Oh, I'm dying to know this one from Angus Kingston about the antiques. Angus Kingston or Angus in Kingston.

It says Angus Kingston, so I think we're going to have to assume that the quite common surname Kingston is his surname rather than he's dialing in from Kingston. Maybe he's Alex Kingston from Kingston. From Angus? Wow maybe it's Angus Kingston he moved from Angus to Kingston. I'm losing track but I'm going to ask the question. Okay that's a good idea. What's the quickest route from Angus to Kingston? I knew it. I knew it. Okay, sorry. Sorry. Sorry, Angus. Angus Kingston asks about the Antiques Roadshow. Do exhibitors get invited to come along because producers are tipped off that they have an 18th century porcelain dog sitting on a toilet reading a newspaper that is worth £10,000? The experts seem to know a lot off the top of their heads. How is it set up? A number of answers to that Angus I

would say. To your original point of do people get invited along, occasionally that does happen. So some of the biggest ever finds on Antiques Road show have been ones that they sort of knew were gonna happen. So there was Gateshead Council I think had the maquette for Angel of the North, a six foot version of Angel of the North. And when they were up there, obviously, they didn't, a guy didn't just turn up with this six foot Angel of the North and bring it along. So there would have been, you know, chats with the production said, you know, we've got this Angel of the North, it has never been valued. So you bring it along. And that was worth over a million pounds, which is is more than they paid for the actual whole Angel of the North in the first place. So things like that. There was an army regiment who had a Fabergé flower, which they knew was very valuable. And so they had said to Antiques Road, should we take it along? We don't know how valuable it is, and that was over a million as well. There was a Banksy mural as well, a Bristol kind of youth club had this Banksy mural.

So you know that that's worth a lot of money, but also you're not just gonna turn up with it in a bag and turn up. So there are times when interesting things, if you're in a particular area, the researchers will go up and have a little look if there's like one big interesting story that they can look at.

But the massive bulk of Antiques Roadshow is people seeing in the paper that it's in their area and bringing things along and waiting in the queue and hoping to get on TV. So a few things, a few big things that you would check out beforehand but by and large it's this big queue, you will go along there and like in X Factor not everyone goes in front of the judges so the first thing you do is researchers will come and look at your pieces and there will be valuers and they will value your piece and most things someone will value your piece that you'll

be very happy and then you'll enjoy the rest of the day at Stately Home and watch the filming. If a researcher finds something interesting that then goes up the line to a producer. They'd say I've got this thing, it's a box and either it's interesting because it's valuable or it's interesting because it's unusual or it's interesting because it's got a great personal story behind it. So they're trained to sort of work those things out and that gets moved up the line to the producers who will then look at it, decide on what the on-screen valuers are going to talk about, what they're actually going to point the cameras at, because they don't have a million cameras, they know the things that they're shooting during the day. They are real experts by the way, before it goes to those experts they might take a look at it

and go, I need a tiny bit more on this, and so they will research into it, but by and large those experts would want to just do that themselves because they they they like either knowing for a fact what it is or they like to talk about the fact they don't know exactly what is they they like to talk about those things so lots of different things go through lots of those different processes things will turn up and someone will you won't know exactly what it's worth things will turn up you do a bit of research and then you'll know what it's worth. But to get actually on camera is quite rare on those programmes. And as I say, it'll be because the item is unusual, the item is expensive, or the item has a great story behind it. And the most expensive item I can find that was

actually just somebody who'd bought something in a shop, and a researcher had looked at it and gone, okay, I think this is quite quite interesting and it had gone up to the producer and they said oh I think this is quite interesting and had gone to the expert was someone who for £400 had bought a painting this is in Bristol had bought a painting in a thrift shop and it was a £400,000 Van Dyke but that was somebody literally turning up with a painting under their arm and suddenly they're £400,000 richer they might might have had an idea. But almost all of that show is people bringing things in, but there's a process you have to go through before you're put on camera. Now Antiques

Road Trip, which is not Antiques Road Show, it's where the antiques experts go around the country and compete against each other. So you would hope that they would find some quite cool things. And Paul Laidlaw, who I love on that show, bought a like a sub miniature camera. He found this camera and they got it for 60 quid from this guy and he was like, I really think there's something I think this might be like a prototype. I think it might be quite an unusual piece and that sold on auction. You could watch the auction, you can see on live is sold for 20,000 Wow. This £60 camera that he bought. And so, you know, those things do happen.

My favourite of those shows is Fake or Fortune because you know, for a fact, if they find out something is real, then it is worth an absolute fortune. And if it's not real, then it's not worth an absolute fortune. So it's a very binary choice. But yeah, Antiques Road shows very, very real. If something comes in like that Angel of the North, they're very upfront about what they're doing and the fact that it's not just someone who's been in a queue. But yeah, that joy of someone finding out things are worth more than they thought is very genuine and in almost all circumstances. It's always

fun when you see someone pretending not to be disappointed. Yeah. When they go, I'd say this is two, three pounds. And he's like, ah, it's crushing. But yeah, it's a beautifully put together bit of television, Antiques Roadshow. Okay, this is from David S. Top three Simpsons cameos. Oh, I've got, I have got some views.

Can't count something like Kelsey Grammer being side-shaped, obviously. He's a returning character. Yeah, returning character. I generally hate the ones where celebrities play themselves, even though I absolutely love the Simpsons, completely love the Simpsons, I generally hate the ones where they play themselves. There's a really dark one actually where he doesn't play himself. Well, he does, Michael Jackson, that's one of the creepiest ones. He's like this really creepy, overweight patient in a psychiatric hospital.

He's called Michael Jackson. That's a very odd one. That's not in my top three. But in my top three, there's one where they play themselves. At three, Richard, is Meryl Streep plays Reverend Lovejoy's daughter Jessica. She's worse than Bart. First of all, what can't

Meryl do? Her voice is so high. She's like a child. It's a really good cameo. She's worse than Bart. Bart obviously just falls for her completely. So I love that one. At number two, oh my God, I'm doing this. It hasn't gone wrong yet. Leonard Nimoy opening the Monorail. Oh, amazing. Yeah. And he is obviously playing himself. And that's an incredible episode. And it is. The Monorail episode is obviously an epic one. Monorail. Oh, amazing. Yeah, and he is obviously playing himself. And that's an incredible episode. And it is, the monorail episode is obviously an epic one.

Yeah. At number one, oh my God, I've done this, but this is one of my, this honestly makes me cry, this coming almost every time I see it, is Dustin Hoffman plays Lisa's supply teacher, Mr. Bergstrom. Oh yeah. Oh my God, it's so, and she sort of,

she's, I mean, she doesn't fall in love with him. She adores him. He has to go because probably teachers move on like the little is over. And he hands her a note which she thinks is going to explain everything. And when, as the train's pulling out of the station and she opens the note and it just says, you are Lisa Simpson. I mean, it's one of the great, and he's actually credited as Sam Etick Really?

Which we can only speculate on where he chose that but there was some sort of contractual reason why he couldn't be credited Dustin Hoffman and it's relatively early in The Simpsons which has now obviously been going on for 450 years so that's my favourite but you know the voice and you know and then they're not credited there's something much more cool than someone just Rupert Murdoch playing Rupertdoch, which he has done on a couple of occasions. And the lovely thing that happened last week, again another one of those examples of things in The Simpsons that come true, like they predicted President Trump, is there's the lovely episode where Homer goes on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins and Cypress Hill are

playing and they accidentally book the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra possibly while high and a couple of weeks ago actually played live with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra possibly while high and a couple of weeks ago actually played live with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra because so many people who watched The Simpsons had asked them over the years. So that would be my favourite. Great, a perfectly executed top three. I forgot to have a light. Dear one, normal service will resume next week. Do please keep sending your questions in. The rest is entertainment at gmail.com. And we will see you next Tuesday for a regular episode.

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