The Rest Is Entertainment - Marina's A-List

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

Can you guess how Marina will rate your favourite actor? Why do first editions cost so much? Does Beyonce hire too many songwriters? Richard Osman and Marina Hyde answer your questions and explore the world of bottle episodes and writing credits. Plus we list the country's top actors and Marina (and her imaginary gavel) decide if they are 'A-List or Not' - prepare to be shocked. The Rest Is Entertainment AAA Club: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to our Q&A episodes, ad-free listening, access to our exclusive newsletter archive, discount book prices on selected titles with our partners at Coles, early ticket access to future live events, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestisentertainment.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestisentertainment. The Rest Is Entertainment is proudly presented by Sky. Sky is home to award-winning shows such as The White Lotus, Gangs of London and The Last of Us. Visit Sky.com to find out more For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Assistant Producers: Aaliyah Akude Video Editor: Kieron Leslie, Adam Thornton Producers: Neil Fearn + Joey McCarthy Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to this episode of the Rest is Entertainment questions and answers edition. I'm Marina Hyde. And I'm Richard Osmond. Hello Marina. Hello Richard, how are you? Very well. Lots of questions to get through today from our wonderful listeners. We have- And viewers. And viewers. On YouTube.

Yes. Marina, I have a question for you from Olivia Buckley. Yes. I put out a call last week for people to start using their first name and surname. Otherwise I would essentially assign a surname to them. And Olivia Buckley has, has paid attention. Fitting people with surnames whether they wanted them or not. Exactly. I mean, everyone wants a surname, don't they really? Yes. Oh, maybe not Madonna. Olivia Buckley says, I originally started watching Grey's Anatomy only 20 years late. Doesn't matter. You can

watch things whenever you want these days. In series seven, there was an episode filmed in a mockumentary style, breaking the typical episode conventions of your standard medical drama. I'd all but forgotten about bottle episodes, be it elaborate dream sequences, musical numbers, or focusing on a totally random character. Why did they do this? Is it to help break up the series, allow the wider narrative to shift to another focus? Was it an outlet for the writer's creativity or just an attempt to push boundaries? Normally it's none of those things. It's really just to save money. Well, a bottle episode is slightly different to what Olivia's talking about here, I think. Yes.

So define a bottle episode. Well, for me a bottle episode, and it actually came from somebody, some American TV producer saying we had to sort of pull an episode out of a bottle like a genie. Because when you were making these long 26-part series, sometimes you'd have an expensive episode or you'd have various guest stars. And then suddenly, clearly, you have to allocate your budget across the series. So if you spent more on one episode, then you're going to have to cut back somewhere else. You'd only have your very core cast or even sometimes you only have a couple of your core cast and they're often trapped somewhere. Like maybe they're stuck in a

room. It's not an expensive setting. If you've ever seen it, like you've noticed quite often throughout the new iteration, not the newest, but since Doctor Who came back originally when Russell T. Davis originally brought it back with Christopher Eccleston, you watch all of those series and you'll see they've had some massive intergalactic battle episode and then suddenly like everyone's stuck in a library. Now that's not to denigrate those types of episodes at all. That's the beauty of it. Well that's what people will say. And how many people will say that necessity is the mother of invention and that great stuff comes from these... it's always a budgetary restriction

that has forced doing something like that so that you have money for elsewhere. It's really interesting, recently just because I love the episode and I haven't seen it for so long, I thought, well I must watch Pine Barrens, which is that amazing episode of The Sopranos, where Christopher and Paulie are lost in the sort of snow in the forest. And you think that that's the whole episode. It's really weird. In my memory, it's almost become a sort of bottle episode. And actually, when I went back, I was like, God, it's not that much of... It's not as much of the episode as I remember.

You know, you see Tony and Carmela, you see all this other stuff happening, but it's so overwhelming, that idea of those two characters you hadn't seen them necessarily in that configuration and then obviously they were completely out of their comfort zone and it's really odd it's like oh my god it's not actually a model episode but many people remember it as such I think. There's a really good one of Parks and Recreation where Ron Swanson and Leslie Knope obviously played by Nick Hoffman and Amy Poehler they're sort of stuck in the office all night and it's just a two-hander. It's really incredible. I mean, it's an amazing episode. And obviously, because those two represent really different ideas

of like big and small government and all, anyway, it's really interesting the way they work through the night together. There's a West Wing episode, I think it's called Something Like Seventeen People and they were stuck in the West Wing overnight and they have to work out whether or not they're going to raise the terror threat. They were bump heads and blah blah. I'm trying to think of the other great ones. There's one where Peggy and Don Draper, there's one called the suitcase, they were working on the Samsonite account I think. They eventually have these various breakthroughs I suppose in their relationships and in their views of life. There's that episode of Breaking Bad. The fly.

Yes, the fly where I think I've read about this once. They were stuck on the location somewhere and Vince Gilligan said I couldn't really get them to the next place and we were sort of stuck between things So I had the pair of them and they were just stuck in this location the last episode and then there's a sort of fly In the fly in the room the second the door locks you think I was a bottle episode I remember Family Guy doing a brilliant bottle episode with Stewie and Brian and the joke being you of course have Family Guy You don't need a bottle episode because it's the locations I mean, you know, you've got to draw different backgrounds, but a lot of those are reused. I remember the brilliant Jimmy Mulvally ran Hattrick. He was the producer on The Last Smith and

Jones, Millsmith and Griffreys Jones. And the most famous thing about that show, the thing that most people remember, are those shots with the two of them with their heads really close together against a black background. And Jimmy was saying, well, it was a sketch show, we do all these things. We were sort of three minutes short per show and zero money left in the budget. So I just said, listen, let's just sit the two of you in front of a camera with a black background and we'll just write some stuff. And he said that became the biggest, the most famous, most successful bit of that entire show. It defined it really. And it was ripped off beyond all, you know, it just became, we didn't

have the word meme then, but it was a meme. Yes, it was very memeable. And yeah, if they'd had the money to do a, you know, a Bridgerton ripoff, they would have done that instead. But instead it was just two people in a room. But I think Olivia is also talking about that thing that you get after a few series of something where suddenly there'll be a musical episode or there'll be a live episode. And I think that comes from when you sign up for one of those big shows of Grey's Anatomy, something like that, you are signing up for a minimum of seven seasons. And that's a lot of actors, that's a lot of talent behind the camera, director, writers, all sorts of things.

And there comes a point where you've really proved what you are as a show and you're making money for everybody. There's a sort of creative itch that goes, we've got this massive thing that everyone's watching. There'd always be someone in the writers room who's just written the book for a musical and there'd always be someone on staff, whoever the composer is, just say, I can knock you off a few things. And so it's one of those things, it sort of comes with success, where you go, we have earned the right now to do a very unusual standout episode.

It keeps everybody sweet. He's getting quite bored of going around the same circle every week. I think exactly that. Season six is on, you look at the scripts, there's 20 episodes and like episode 12, you go, oh, that's a musical. Oh, that's quite funny. Yeah. So it just, it just gives everybody someone's cabin in the woods. Yeah. The woodside cabin. That's a lot of use. That happens an awful lot. Guys, I just want a competition and the prize is the use of a cabin. My uncle has a cabin. Right. Yeah. Yes. That's something you don't get on British TV. People go, guys, just come out to my lakeside cabin., everyone get what would you be your lakes?

Caravans though are a fix. Yeah, they are caravans in in will and what have you but yeah, that's absolutely just a thing of Well firstly keeping the talent suite But secondly people can get bored of a show people can get bored of the same thing and of formula and occasionally just dropping in Something different can be refreshing. That's why Have I Got a New View is still such a huge hit. Funnily enough, having a different host every week is the thing that absolutely has kept that show, you know, so current and so high up in the ratings as well. A little bit of novelty every now and again keeps everybody sweet.

You could not fit a better surname here because Maya Sharon says, why do pop songs have so many writers? Am I right to be skeptical on every person having helped out? I mean, in the 60s, there were teams of writers, you know, Holland, Dozier, Holland, and all those groups and you know, they would write together and you know, they put music out for so say, you know, a Motown song, you know, Holland, Dozier, Holland would write that says three writers. Then you get to seventies and eighties and people started sort of writing their own material. So Elvis would never really write his own songs.

He's always got writers writing for him. It's the seventies and eighties. People start writing their own material, either the lead singer of the band or like the whole band would be credited. And bands where it's just the lead singer tend to fall apart quicker because the lead singer suddenly becomes incredibly rich and the rest of the band don't. You know, a Coldplay type band where everyone's getting equal credit.

They tend to stick together cause they're all billionaires at the same time. What happens now? So much music is collaborative. Now we talked before about the absolute collapse of bands in the 21st century and how almost all number one signals now are soloists or soloists featuring various people. And firstly, you've got your original artists who might have a couple of writers and themselves. You've got the person coming in to do a rap. They've got themselves and someone else maybe they work with. But

the big thing has been samples. So the big thing is so much of modern music, modern R&B, modern hip hop is composed of samples. And every single time you sample something, that has to be included on the writing credit. If you're Beyonce, you want to sample a Motown song, then already the credits are Beyonce, Holland, Dozier, Holland. You've already got four people before you've got the other people who Beyonce is happening to collaborate with on this album. I think songwriting has got much more collaborative because studios are now such an interesting creative space and a more democratic space than they used to be because a producer of a song was always not dictatorial but they're a gatekeeper

because it's complicated the thing that they were doing and now with the software lots and lots of people can sit in the studio. Sometimes they were dictatorial. Oh of course they were because you know like a theater directors and they you know Beyonce's album I think there's 24 you know for Alien Superstar for example it's got 24 credited songwriters now there'll be a few of Beyonce's collaborators, that'll be the producer, but then there'll be every single writer of every single sample in that song. And so it's not 24 people sitting in a room doing the same thing, but yeah, essentially the thing is if you change a single word, used to be change a word,

get a third. So some of our favorite boy bands and girl bands, they would be given a song. Listen, I'm mentioning absolutely no names. They would be given a song and you know, there'd be like a sort of beauty parade of songs would be played to them by songwriters and they choose one they like. And then they go, I would say to this thing saying, I love you so much. I think I would say I love you very much. That's the whole nineties basically. The whole nineties.

And then they give interviews saying we're different because we write our own music. We write our own stuff. It's really collaborative process. We say our own words. And if you are the songwriter, by the way, whose song has gone in there and the record company says, yeah, we absolutely love it. Just so you know, person X from this band has changed a couple of the lines, so they will be getting 50% of the thing. Well, as a songwriter, either no one is doing your song and you're getting nothing or that group is doing your song and you're getting 50% of what is hopefully a big hit. There are of course, you know, Gary Bardo writes his own songs and there were examples of people in those groups who do write their own songs.

But there's more examples of people who have credited on all sorts of big hits who, yeah, essentially. Maybe did not even say a word. Write a word, get a third. Ed Sheeran did Perfect in 2017 and he's the sole songwriter on that. But when he did a version with Beyonce, she changes the gender of a couple of lines, but that is credited to Ed Sheeran and Beyonce as songwriters. And so it's well done Mr. Entertainment Lawyer, or might be a lady, Mrs. It might be an unmarried lady. Yeah, it might be Miss Entertainment Lawyer. So many options.

So yeah, it's one of those things, The world of songwriting has changed. One thing that hasn't changed is you get teams of songwriters, you always used to in Tim Pan Alley and all that. They're having certainly pairs, there were loads of the loads of trios as well in the Motown era. And by the time you've got four samples on something and your own people, and there's three people on all of those is very quick to get up to 15, 16, 17, 18 writers on something. I was listening to a new Manix album which I like very much and there's a beautiful song called The Decline and Fall and I was looking at the credits for that on Spotify, I always click on who wrote the songs, there's always

interesting stories and it has Difford and Tilbrook on there and Difford and Tilbrook as our older listeners will know were the songwriters behind Squeeze. And it's because they used a distinctive guitar part from Call for Cats on that. And so Diffident Tilbrook, our joint songwriters on that and we'll get equal share of the money. Famously Bittersweet Symphony by The Verve. All their money really went to the Rolling Stones or at least Andrew Luke Oldham because they used an orchestral version of a stone song that he had arranged. So it's yeah, if you are at all interested in modern music, you do want to use samples, you do want to reference the past, you do want to use things that have been done before. And if you do that, suddenly there's more and more and more and more writers.

Right, everybody. I think we should go to a break now, although I understand I've been set some terrible tests later. You are. We had a lovely question a couple of weeks ago about what constitutes an A-list star. I think Leonie Beck wrote in and said that her and her husband argue about what A-list is. And you said that you could literally be given the name of any actor and tell me if they were A-list or not. So I will wait. Leonie, keep listening because I'm going to be putting Marina to the test straight after this. Oh, this could be quite, I'm sorry. I won't apologize in advance. Oh, you love it. You're going to get to play God. Yeah, you're right. My revolution is happening after the break. This episode is brought to you by Sky where you can watch the highly anticipated second

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jump, probably five years since they filmed the first one. So it's fair enough, isn't it? From what I hear, my nerves, my nerves. The second season sounds like it's going to be even more intense. There's conflict brewing everywhere, not just on the outside with the infected and all the different factions among them, but inside between Joel and Ellie too. Yes. If you're into emotional gut punches, high stakes world building and brilliant performances, this show is for you. Watch the brand new series of the award winning The Last of Us available on Sky now. Welcome back everybody. Marina, are you ready?

I'm as ready as I will ever be. Excellent. So, Lee and I Beck, a couple of weeks ago, her and her husband argue about what's A-list or not. We had a little chat about it, but I said I'm gonna set you a challenge. You said you could tell me if anyone was A-list or not. I wish I had a gavel, I've just realized, but nevermind. Everyone at home, see if you agree or disagree

with Marina's options. So I'm gonna give you a list of actors. You have to tell me, say A-list or not A-list. I'm gonna say what strikes me in the moment. is like one of those things we were trying you know we used to have to react to pictures or whatever it is are the following actors a list b list or c list let's go your first actor is Idris Elba b Killian Murphy oh b come on Florence Pugh b and that's yeah b no she's b This is I hope this is not just Marina saying B the whole time. No, okay. No, no. Carry on. You get that from a Chris Packham podcast.

Zendaya. A can open a movie. Don't worry. Carry on. Jennifer Lawrence. A actually falling but she's had two very big franchises. A Pedro Pascal. B TV style mainly. Barry Kiyogan. Fantastic Four could change it. Oh Barry Kiyogan. No, B, come on. IO Edebri. No, B, if that. Um, also B Initiation One. Vin Diesel. A, sorry, it's a massive franchise. You don't make the rules right? If I did, if I did anyway I'd put him in. Come on, what are we talking about? Rachel Zegler. Oh no, I mean B and falling I'm afraid.

Def Patel. What? No, I mean, I love very nice but be. See? Here we go. Friend of the podcast, Glenn Powell. Be rising, strongly rising, still be though. Still be. Yeah, come on. Couple years time they'll be going, I can't remember when Glenn Powell was be this.

It won't be through one of trying if they aren't, let's put it that way. Talking of Glenn Powell, Sidney Sweeney. Again, be rising, both of them, you know, but they haven't yet got those kind of open movie roles. We have to see if they can do it. On the cusp. Cuspy. Tom Hardy. B. Al Pacino. Oh, come on. Okay, A but heritage. I mean, he's not opening a movie now, is he? I mean, yeah. Heritage A. A heritage, it's a special category if you haven't said I had that one That was a star a heritage. Yeah. Yeah, don't cheat or no Not we're not even giving him a letter. He's getting a B Dustin Hoffman a heritage. Come on. Okay, Saoirse Ronan I love her but be I mean, you know, yes, I mean it's our house, isn't it? Natalie Portman used to be a now be now B. Okay, Viola Davis. A maybe. A

maybe. Yeah, A. This guy's got a clue in his name. Michael B Jordan. Oh, A. Michael A Jordan? You're saying wow, Michael A Jordan. I think so, yeah definitely. Olivia Colman. Sorry, I mean amazing, but B. Amazing, but B. Well because, you know, she's not, of course she should win all the awards in the Oscars and whatever, but I don't think of her as a sort of A-lister in that sense. So you think she's many things, but she's not Sylvester Stallone? Yeah, and I think she probably loves that. Yeah. Sylvester Stallone.

Oh, A-Heritage. Amy Lee Wood. What? I mean, doesn't wait. Sorry, I know she's had a terrible week, so I don't mean to add to it, but no, I mean, she's a part in an ensemble on a television program. Okay. Robert De Niro heritage senior also nights Andrew Garfield I love him but B and we're gonna end with this one interesting one Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds both a both a yeah but would

they be a without the other do they does does a rising tide raise all ships in that relationship that's difficult isn't it I don't know't know. Yes, they sort of somehow have been greater than the sum of their parts I think. It's a double A. I think they're both overrated. No, listen, it's good. I don't think he's a good guy at all actually. But yeah, I don't get a good vibe off him. I don't mean that kind of monster, just like a celebrity monster, you know. I think when

you become very, very famous, I think that's the problem with those two, but yeah, they're very, very famous. You did that very quickly. I got through the entire list of people. That's very, very impressive. I mean, some of those I honestly think in retrospect, I didn't know who was coming next. I was trying to sort of calibrate against the ones before. So I never knew who was coming next. You know, I could have definitely had a couple of Cs and Ds in there. But that doesn't mean that, you know, I don't love them as an actor, but you have to we have to be honest about what what type of star they are.

Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, Sandra Bullock. Oh, I mean, well, Sandra Bullock, I mean, I love her, but yeah, she's heritage A now. Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks are still A. Aniston. Well, I mean, Aniston's A, I should think she could open movies still. Yeah, she just likes doing brands now as far as I can work out, fitness brands and things like that. Listen, that's easier than acting, isn acting isn't it yeah I think so um Leanne thank you so much for a question from two weeks ago and Marina congratulations that was very

very good okay Richard for you Laura Harper would like to know something about first editions on auction sites it seems that the most expensive antiquated books are first editions what does this mean is a first edition always a set amount of books how are they distributed compared to others? Does the author get a say on where those go and who they're distributed to? So first editions, yeah, absolutely. They're very much the most expensive books you can find. And the real sweet spot is an incredibly famous book that wasn't very successful at the time. So if you take the first Harry Potter, the Philosopher's Stone, this is a book where lots of books will go straight to paperback. A few books will go to hardback and Philosopher's Stone did that. But if it's an unknown author and

people don't know if it's going to go well, they might publish a thousand, two thousand, something like that. A very small print run. A very small print run. And so in 30 years time, and that's the first edition, when that all sells out and actually people like it, the next print run is 3000 and then 5000. And the very first editions of the Harry Potter books, for example, which have a few typos in them, which gets changed for the next edition, are worth an absolute fortune because there's very few of them. And it became immensely popular and successful afterwards. It'll say first edition, first printing as well. That's the

absolute key. Whenever a year it comes out, you'll do a certain amount and then if it's successful, you'll do more. That'll be the second printing or the second edition and then more and more and more. So the key thing is, well, two things firstly, a book like Harry Potter, a more modern book, if it didn't sell a huge amount of the time, but now has sold millions upon millions, those are worth an awful lot of money. And then the older books, you take like an Ian Fleming or something like that, which again, the first ones didn't sell as well as you might think. And so if you can get an original first edition of Ian Fleming, they are worth an absolute fortune, especially, we talked about this

the other day, if you get them in the dust jacket, because very, very, very few dust jackets survive from anywhere. And there's American first editions, there's UK first editions. So see how many books there are, see if it's in a dust jacket, see what sort of state it is in. And there's all sorts of things like Gatsby, there's on the very first ever dust jacket

of the great Gatsby, there's a typo. One of the letters is in lowercase that should be in uppercase. And so you know you've got yourself a first edition there because people turn, there's all sorts of people are never quite sure with dust jackets, they put them on different ones or there's the various fakes and things out there. The most expensive first edition ever really, is it a first edition Shakespeare's first folio. And at the time there were 750 of them, but as you can imagine, very few of those still exist. And one sold auction for 9 million pounds.

So that's what you're paying for a first edition of that. Now Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, again, a book that didn't sell like crazy in its first edition. There's only about 22 copies still in existence. So that sold for two and a half million as well. So there's all those sort of things out there. Now before you get first editions, there are also proofs. There are things like that.

There are special editions that different bookshops will put out. But if you have a book that was big at the time, then even the first edition is not really going to be worth a lot of money. If you, for example, have a first edition of an early John Le Carre book, then you've got yourself some money. If you've got a copy of a John Le Carre book, a first edition, any time after the spy who came in from the cold, which was his huge hit and suddenly all his books sell a load, it's worth an awful lot less money, even with a signature on it. So you want to get those authors who are huge now, but who had the first couple of books were not huge, and you can make an absolute bomb. Goldsboro Books in London do special one-off limited

editions, first editions of lots of books. And there's a club you can join where you get sent them. Those are the sorts of things that if you wanted to collect books for any other reason other than just reading them, if you did think well maybe this would be an investment, it's collecting those one-off first editions. But collecting first editions of books that are going to be number one in the hardback chart, absolutely no point doing it. It's collecting those very unusual one-offs and authors that are going to be famous. That's the key. So like with art, if there's an author that you love and you think that everyone's going to be famous, that's the key. So like with art, if there's an author that you love and you think that everyone's going to love them in 10 years time, then buy the earliest edition of whatever book you can find by them.

I actually, I have a first edition of T.S. Eliot's Four Quartets and they were given to me by my grandmother because she had them from the first time around. And it's also a poem I absolutely completely love. So I think I find that really, really special. But I read those all the time. Yeah, Ingrid got me as a present an American first edition of my favourite book ever, A Month in the Country, as well. And again, it's not one of those ones, but it's just it's such a special, lovely, beautiful thing to have.

Yeah, because we both love those things. Yes, I'm not someone who would be motivated to collect in that way, but I really love that there's something very evocative about these little paper pamphlets, because they're very short. And it's the thing that came out at the time. And also, if you do have books, keep them in a good condition because there's vanishingly few books from the 20s, 30s that are in a good condition. So, you know, in a hundred years time, if you've got the books that are in good condition, then your great, great,

great grandchildren, not to quote year 3000 by Busted, might make a lot of money from them. I can imagine you going into a small sort of children with the white gloves to read them. I don't read them. I don't read my... Oh gloves to read them. Oh I don't read them. Oh you don't read them. Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah, don't be silly. I think that concludes us for today, but we, if you're a member of our club, which you can sign up to at therestisentertainment.com, we are back with the second

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