The Rest Is Entertainment - The Art of Sex on TV
Episode Date: October 31, 2024How do you go about getting permission to film in grave yards? Are we seeing less sex on TV? Why don't people say "goodbye" when ending on-screen phone calls? Marina and Richard answer your questions... on the Q&A edition of The Rest Is Entertainment. *** The Rest Is Entertainment Live debuts at The Royal Albert Hall on Wednesday 4th December! Get your tickets here. Expect Christmas treats, a live Q&A and more surprises *** Join The Rest Is Entertainment Club for ad free listen and access to bonus episodes: www.therestisentertainment.com Sign up to our newsletter: www.therestisentertainment.com Twitter: @‌restisents Instagram: @‌restisentertainment YouTube: @‌therestisentertainment Email: therestisentertainment@gmail.com Producer: Neil Fearn + Joey McCarthy Executive Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport As always we appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Entertainment to help make the podcast better: https://forms.gle/GeDLCfbXwMSLHSUHA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello and welcome to this episode of the Rest is Entertainment Questions and Answers edition.
I'm Marina Hyde.
And I'm Richard Osman.
Happy Halloween everybody.
Happy Halloween to all who celebrate.
All who celebrate.
Shall we start just straight away with a Halloween question?
A spooky question.
Although we should remind people that thank you to all of those who have signed up to
the Rest is Entertainment Club.
There's absolutely no need to if you don't want to, because we'll carry on doing the podcast, but if you have
signed up, our first bonus episode will drop tomorrow. It's slightly terrifying in some
ways because it's about Steven Seagal, so maybe it is thematically linked to the week
of Halloween.
Ooh, I always think we're strictly, they've done Halloween episodes now for 20-odd series,
and there's literally only two Halloween songs, which are Monster Mash Mash and Thriller and every year they trot something out. I
also think it's very impressive. Anyway, that's a little production aside. Let's do a question,
shall we? Stuart Hunter has a question for you. Stuart Hunter also the name of a Halloween
movie about a Tudor assassin. Listen, Stuart Hunter says, how do they film cemetery and
graveyard scenes? Is this location difficult
to obtain a permit for due to its sensitive nature? Thank you Stuart Hunter. Stuart Hunter.
Thank you Stuart Hunter. Those damn Stuarts. Okay Stuart, yes you do have to ask the local
authority, you are quite right and you have to have, it is quite hard to get these agreements because they are sensitive
places.
If you do show headstones, they can't be real people's headstones.
You can't just say, hey, well, this one just happened to be there.
You can use silhouettes only.
So no names can be readable.
And you know, all these instructions, as always, will be on the call sheet saying, you know,
you can't have your catering tent pitched up in the graveyard.
So having said that, people do break these rules.
You surprise me.
There are certain scenes with graveyard like the scene in Saltburn okay that's not actually
in a graveyard because I think he's buried in the grounds of the house. So that scene
they get away with what happens in that scene.
I still haven't seen Saltburn.
Okay well.
Because I've heard too much about it now I know that I will never see it now.
Well you can find out online what happens in the scene with the grave.
But actually not a million miles away from it, there's a Mexican porn star called Janeth
Rubio.
Now she posted some clips and said, where do you think I filmed it?
The answer was, by the way that's in the graveyard in Guadalajara where my mum's buried, people
were sort of like, and were really angry about it.
The mayor got involved.
There was a similar case rather closer to home in Edinburgh,
not that long ago, where a couple were doing it
for OnlyFans, having sex in graveyard.
Okay, that's nice, isn't it?
Yeah, but actually in the Greyfriars Bobby graveyard,
and they're putting it out,
and people were complaining about it.
And they gave a quote saying, "' we didn't see it as disrespectful.
It happens all the time in the graveyard.
It's just that most people don't film it.
Oh, and listen, they've got a point if it's happening anyway.
Does it happen all the time in the graveyard?
OK, fine.
It's natural to have sex, including to the people in that graveyard.
OK, now you're maybe crossing a number of lines now.
Because they don't have consent to say that, because I imagine a couple of them might go,
yeah fine, listen honestly, very little happening around here. But some of them would object.
I am too dead to sign this release form, but I have got issues with it. And then they said,
you only have one life, okay, you're making a real thing about everyone here is dead,
let's just get on with it, so you might as well live it. They got in quite a lot of trouble for
doing that. I'm sorry, very quickly the tone was lowered in that answer,
but in general you have to have a lot of permissions
and people are very, very sensitive.
In a reputable production, in a disreputable,
only fans production, do what you like.
In the Thursday Murder Club movie,
there's quite a big plot point in a cemetery in that,
and so there's scenes in a cemetery,
and they built the whole cemetery.
So they built the whole thing, it's all fake, all the graves are fake.
And then you can do what you like. Yeah, and I just put the names of my So they built the whole thing. It's all fake. All the graves are fake.
And then you can do what you like.
Yeah, and I just put the names of my enemies on the gravestone.
Like always.
You can also just build your own graveyard in eight easy parts.
OnlyFans is mental.
But insanely lucrative.
Very, very lucrative.
And they're not all having sex in graveyards, are they?
That's just merely one strand in a many, many, many stranded thread. Okay.
Here's one from Donna Kam about actor or actress.
She says, I've noticed a change in women slash females being referred to as an actor rather
than an actress.
Why has this change come about?
It's interesting that because, you know, that thing of putting S on the end of jobs is it
doesn't exist sort of anywhere anymore.
Used to be, you know, people were poetesses and comedians and sculptress
and things like that. And I think actresses probably lasted a bit longer because of the
Oscars because they do have to kind of the best actor and best actress. I can't think
of any female actors I know who still call themselves an actress because I guess why
would you? I also can't think of any female actors who would be offended if you did say
actress. No one minds at all. It's just they're doing exactly the same job as other people. So,
of course, you would call it the same thing. It's interesting to think there are very few
professions where the S still exists. Steward and stewardess, maybe, might be the only one.
We still occasionally say male nurse to turn it the other way around.
Host and hostess. I mean, these are sort of a pile.
Yeah. But yeah, it's one of those things, if you actually think about it, it's sort of absurd
to give it different names.
You can just, you know, they're actors.
If you think there's some difference between the job they're doing, then, you know, there
isn't.
But yeah, so I think it's one of those ones that has endured longer because of...
The awards categories.
Because of the awards categories.
But as so often with language, I've never met anyone who would be offended if you did
say actress.
No one might. People know exactly what you mean mean and people also understand why it's endured perhaps slightly longer than in other professions
But yeah, I think just actors are called actors, you know on a course sheet
You wouldn't have a list of actors and then a list of actresses
You just have a list of actors and that's that's an easier word to use than
Actress and you know language changes doesn't it? But but yeah so I don't worry if you've
ever described someone as an actress no one's gonna mind but by and I said we do it on pointless
all the time I used to say actor and you know it did confuse people for a while but not
for a good 10 years or so everyone knows what you're talking about when you say actor these
days. Comedienne was still going until about 10 years ago. Yeah. It's amazing isn't it?
When they used to say oh we've got a women's comedy. Yeah exactly, but so yeah if people are doing the same job then they just have the same
name for it I guess. But yes don't worry you're not going to offend anyone if you do say actress
but yeah most people just say the job they're doing which is actor. I curated a sort of
series of older game shows for BBC iPlayer which you can still see and there's a wonderful
What's My Line which is you know the one we have to guess what people's jobs are. And this woman appears on screen
and for the audience at home and for the studio audience, they show what their job is and
it says, um, woman police officer. And the audience honestly are in hysterics. They think
it's the funniest thing they've ever heard that there's a woman police officer. It's
so good. And even when she's revealed and they were going, I'm so sorry. That would have been, I guess, mid sixties, I would have thought.
That's another idea.
What a novelty.
We should call people WPCs.
Yeah.
Just think, what are you saying if you're calling them something?
I think they're doing the same job.
It's one of those things, the joys of our language.
That's really funny.
Marina, a question for you.
Cameron Russell says, I have a question for you. Cameron Russell says,
I have a question for my favourite podcaster,
S. Marina Hyde.
Cameron says, when a recurring TV show
or franchise film decides to kill off one of their characters,
assuming this isn't for reasons such as the actor quitting,
what is the procedure for
informing the artist playing
the role?
Okay, well, Cameron, you should obviously,
I mean, it seems like it goes without saying
that you should tell them before they find out another way, but quite often that hasn't
happened. Of course you should say to them and say, you know, and in some cases people
are so integral to the life of the show for many years that they get some sort of say
in their death and writers would even take that into account. I mean, things like in Game
of Thrones, they actually filmed one of the table reads and this guy, Conneth Hill, who
plays Lord Varys, he finds out clearly at the table read, throws his script and that
clip got released and he said, I don't think anybody who hasn't been through it can identify
with what happened to me. You take it personally, you can't help it, you think what have I done? That's quite intense. I would say that those, oh my god, those Game
of Thrones, someone was telling me recently about those Game of Thrones showrunners,
Benioff and Weiss, and they were so completely exhausted as they got to the later seasons.
Someone had seen them at an awards ceremony and their wives were basically sort of talking
for them, saying yeah, no, he's very, you know, he can't actually, and they were actually answering, people were sort of trying to say hello and
stuff and they were sort of answering the questions for them because they were so utterly
exhausted because it was just such a kind of actual monster commitment doing this show
and it was so big and it was so enormous. So I think, you know, possibly some things
fell through the cracks there. I'm not saying that definitely happened. In other cases,
you might have an actor who is,
shall we say, not that discreet and you don't really want to tell them because they're just
going to do a spoiler and then people are going to...
You know, some people who just can't keep their mouth shut. I don't know whether this
happened in The Sopranos, but Joe Pantaleone, who played Ralph Sifretto in The Sopranos,
he found out at the table read about his death and he stormed out calling his agent while he was still in
the room as he was heading to the door and Tony Srico who played poorly
war nuts was like yeah don't let the door hit you on the way out. I don't know how
popular he was with the rest of the cast however I can only speculate but
sometimes much more often than you think people do find out at the table read or
they find out the wrong way and it's often because people are trying to keep things secret about
spoilers when the shows become very very big you have to be so careful because so
many different things you know and you can't necessarily trust people not to
say something or to just kind of put it out there or to anonymously put it out
there so they try to keep it very secret but obviously it's not great to find it
out at the table read. Yeah because I mean you slightly want to get ahead of the story if you...
It is absolutely inexcusable not to tell the actor but if the actor, as you say,
were less than trustworthy you know they'd be out the next day talking to,
you know, everyone saying, oh I'm not on the show anymore so you know what's the
new gig and stuff like that. So there's a bit of you to protect the
show, has to throw the actor under a bus, especially if that's how he dies. And I sort of get it. But you know, by and large, especially on a long running
show, as you say, people are fairly respectful and they'll discuss the fact that, you know,
you're going to die or you know, lots of people will leave EastEnders. Those are always the
interesting conversations when people leave EastEnders. The debate about whether they
actually die or not.
Sometimes if they really, not just EastEnders, other things, if they really don't like you,
they will make sure you die in a way that even by the standards of like stretching all
fictional tropes, you can never come back.
Yeah, and a hundred percent that.
Occasionally just think, well there's, I know that you might at some point, you know, if
you're Ross Kemper and you're leaving EastEnders, EastEnders and Ross Kemper, you know, let's leave this open because, you know,
be lovely Ross, if at some point you want to come back.
If you're certain other people, you go,
there is no way you're ever coming back on the show
because I refuse to work with you.
So I'm afraid it's the steamroller for you.
Yeah.
If there's anything approaching a steamroller type death,
you know that the writers don't like that character,
the producers don't like that character,
they don't like the actor rather, they just, they've really had enough. And
there's quite a number of stories where as time has gone by, people have said, yeah,
you'll notice how we killed him or her off.
Yeah, you'll notice that we showed the body.
Under the steamroller, the completely flattened body, okay, so that's not coming back.
And a doctor saying, yes, I can confirm it's definitely him and he is definitely dead. Even allowing for advances
in medical science in 20 years there's no way we will be able to reanimate this pancake.
Yeah it's absolutely it'd be a narrative impossibility for this man to survive. Shall we go to the
adverts and see if either of us gets killed off. Let's do that.
Welcome back everyone. I have very sad news about Marina. She was there was an electrical
storm hit the microphone. She is no look she's
This podcast forever, by the way, forever.
Was how that spooky isn't it Halloween? Yes, it's very.
So welcome back. I'm Richard Osmond. I'm joined by the ghost of Marina Hyde.
You'd be an amazing ghost.
Yeah, I'm committed, I very rarely sleep anyway, so I would be around all the hours of day
and night.
Why do you think ghosts keep very different hours to everybody else?
But do you know what I mean, they're always at night, do you just think, I mean either
they're not sleeping...
It's a night shift job, it's a night shift job, I'm sorry.
So what are they doing, are they sleeping during the day? I think they
probably have to. That's the only reason I don't believe in ghosts is there would be
so many of them and they would just turn up at some point. Say, you know, if you're a
ghost, you know, there's been six billion people have died, so there'd be a lot of ghosts
around. Some of them would be real egotists, you know, some of them would be real show
offs. One of them at some point, if say we know you can move through walls or something, you would just go and turn up on this morning, you know, and everyone would
see you and you'd be like, it's me, Sharon, hi.
I love the idea that you think that that would just be even in the afterlife when you have
eternal possibilities that you just think, well, the apex of that would be going on this
morning. So if they, why haven't they done it yet? You know what? It's possible that
there are other options and that actually paradise is not trying to get a booking on a mid-morning ITV show.
I know you might think differently, but it's possible that not all of the ghosts do.
I'm not talking about the nature of heaven.
I'm talking about the nature of being a ghost.
And so if ghosts are turning up in the bedrooms of young children and walking through walls,
right, they're doing something.
So, you know, that's quite show-offy. You know, that's kind of knocking and making a noise and moving glasses.
I'm just saying if that's your personality type, if you're quite an extrovert as a ghost,
you might think there's Alison Hammond, there's Dermot O'Leary, I'm going to go and join in
the cooking.
1120 idea.
But anyway, that's what...
Maybe they are, maybe they're like actual TV show ghosts. Maybe if you actually, the
people who can see them, they're clustered around in those cooking there's about 40 of them clustered
around behind watching and saying oh no they put too many onions in there maybe
that's what they're doing they're clustered around that little fake kitchen
What TV show set would you go to if you're a ghost?
Oh that's a great question I can't believe none of the listeners asked that question
No what I don't know which one would you go to? Would it be this morning?
What would I go to? Gosh, you know, I shouldn't have asked the question without thinking about
it.
No, because we don't know the answer to it.
Below deck. That might be fun. I don't know if ghosts can swim.
Yeah, it's the only way you could afford it. I mean, it genuinely is very expensive otherwise,
or apart from being a crew member, which I don't think any of us want to be.
Listen, we should probably get on with actual listening questions.
One from Emma Robinson, Richard, who says,
I was wondering what happens with the dresses used on Strictly Come Dancing after each week.
They have so many outfits used by the couples and the dancers for the group dances.
Are they reused somehow or just scrapped?
I mean essentially anything that's on the BBC, the answer to the question,
are they just scrapped? The answer at these days is absolutely not.
They're always sort of reused in some way and that's absolutely the case, the answer to the question, are they just scrapped to the answer at these days is absolutely not. They're always sort of reused in some way and that's absolutely
the case with Strictly. So yeah, they'll be sort of stripped apart for parts. Essentially
some of them will be reused for the tour because people want to watch the exact version of
the dance that they've already seen on the TV. So some of them are used for that. But
yeah, then they will be sort of taken apart and re-sown into other things. And anything
that gets sort of beyond the kind of realms of being able to be used will be passed on to other productions. Claudia Winkleman in fact
was saying that she occasionally sees dresses she's worn on strictly on EastEnders.
And so yeah, it's the circle of life. So it's absolutely one of those things with anything
on TV, you know, leftover food, you know, it's absolutely everything is done to recycle
as much as one possibly can. And also if you are making those costumes, you know, it's absolutely everything is done to recycle as much as one possibly can and also if you are making those costumes
You know strictly it although it looks like it's huge budget
It's not the biggest budget show you're ever gonna see and if you are one of the wardrobe people on strictly who do
An amazing job then you know, you want your kit of parts, you know, you want as much stuff you've already used
You know, you want as much kind of you want your budget to go as far as it possibly can so yeah everything you see
I mean have a look through previous series
and see if you can spot the same sequence on different, you know,
you're always going to need a matador, aren't you?
And they just sort of change it up a little bit.
But yeah, it's all recycled and reused and, you know, as and when it can be.
Katie Best has a question for you, Marina.
She says, if you were a ghost, which TV show would it be now?
You should have done that, Katie. else should have done it. Katie is absolutely
she's nailed it because she's on the show. She's on the pod.
Katie says, on lots of TV shows, and I've noticed particularly on industry and Ludwig
recently, characters regularly just hang up the phone without saying goodbye. It is so
rude. I know it's probably for reasons like keeping the dialogue snappy and editing time,
but how do you film it so it doesn't just seem hostile rude to the TV audience and are there
any other rules of normal interaction that writers consciously break in order to keep
things moving?
Okay, Katie, that is, they don't say hello or goodbye. It's always because of time. It's
just a wasted piece of interaction. Actually, whilst there is a whole sort of community
out there of people who say, it takes me out of the action because it's so fake that they haven't said goodbye,
most people don't notice it because it's not relevant to the action.
I guess one of the rules of, you know, the most basic rules of scenewriting,
which you've probably heard, is that you go in at the last possible moment
and you leave as soon as possible.
And if you could go in any later or leave any earlier,
then you should do because it's always about economy of timing. By the way, not everyone does say hello and goodbye on the phone. I have to
say that my grandfather used to regard the telephone as passing information. So he neither
said hello nor goodbye, would say things like, I will be at the station at two.
Was he an emotional man in other ways? Not necessarily, not necessarily, but fully enough, this weekend I spoke to my former
stepfather-in-law, I guess.
Your former stepfather-in-law?
My stepfather-in-law, who I hadn't spoken to for years and he wanted to speak and I
talked to him for quite a long time.
And anyway, as the time was getting on, I had to go off and do things, I was with my
children and I said, okay Jose, I've got to go now and he just he put the phone down but again he is one of
those people who just clicks the phone down that's the end you don't have to go through
this whole long you know like goodbye no I love you more I love you you know that sort
of thing.
It's very cool.
Yeah it's just quite funny I mean I'm one of the few people who still likes talking
on the phone I if I could be one of these people who was in the sort of pink bed jacket
in the morning and just sit on the phone and gossip
all morning.
No, if my phone goes, I look at it in horror. Absolute horror. Like, I don't have an answering
machine either, which is the absolute, because people can't leave me a message.
Yeah, nor does my husband. It's so aggressive.
Do you think?
Yeah.
No, but because who leaves you messages? It's always like estate agents from eight years
ago.
Yeah.
You know, and anyone else anyone else if they got your number
Just you can send a message. You know, we're just not come on. You have to text first
I yeah
Well, anyway, this is a sort of the I still like talking on the phone
There's another sort of funny things about phones that you know, they always used to have to have in the American things
They had to have the area code five five five which didn't exist as an area code
So whenever you see in those old American things
They say I'll be on five five five Because people will dial any number they see on television.
When you're making a TV show, you have to be so careful that number doesn't exist or
that that number couldn't exist.
Because I promise you, a huge number of people, if they see any, especially now where they're
sitting watching with their phone in their hand, will literally ring the number they
see on the screen when they see it.
You can't put any piece of information on a television screen without everyone googling it.
If you even have a street name, like people are walking down the street and it's saying the name of the road,
everyone is googling that road and seeing the thing and finding it.
They go, oh look, Google Maps, look, that's where I think this is where they are.
And then they'll look up how much that house cost.
I always think, you know, when you watch like old episodes of Minder or Prime Suspect,
that some people must recognize their house.
Some people must just go, oh my God, that's our house.
Yeah.
That's absolutely crazy.
And sorry, what was the question?
The question was about Ludwig and industry and things like that.
But yes, I really loved Ludwig, by the way, and I'm glad that's coming back again.
And I love industry, which is brilliant.
But yes, you never will waste time on that.
And it also, I actually think it sounds weird here, because I'm so used to the kind of rhythms of normal television yeah in life it may seem
weird some people if like my former stepfather nor you just put the phone
down but on television to me it looks weird unless there's a whole point you
know that's a whole plot point about people who can't say goodbye to each
other then there's no reason to have it in terms of you know other things that
keep moving I always think the my absolute favorite plot device that never
ever happens in the real world is one
character has some very important information and the other character is
too busy to hear it so they go no but I got to tell you it's like a really big
thing like an assassin's coming around your house yeah John I've just got to
go to the station no but it's really important John I'm going to the station
closed door like in real life in real die. In real life. Exactly.
In real life you actually say, I'm not kidding you, this is incredible.
You have to, just before you shut the door, there is an assassin going to kill you.
And if you put the phone down, just text them, by the way, there is an assassin going to
kill you.
Yes, going to kill you.
Yeah.
The only time it would be ever acceptable for you to ring me would be if an assassin
is coming around to kill me.
If ever I pick up my phone and it's ringing and it says Marina hide on it, I will know. Well, do you know
what? I won't even have to pick up because I know that there's only one reason that she
would be ringing me.
I may have information to pass to you like where they are, which window they're coming
in, something like that.
Do you know what? I just get my escape pack and I run. I don't care.
Your bug out bag.
Yeah. I'm not going to be going, oh, interesting. Oh, they're on the way. Are they? Oh, they're just around the corner. I bet. Yeah, I'm not gonna go again. Oh, yeah. Oh interesting. Are they all there on the way? Are they all this just around the corner? I bet boom. I'm out
I won't reach to write an article about you this week saying that you've got a bug out back in Europe repper
Osmond revealed as doomsday prepper
Do you have like if you're a spy like an escape route from the back of your house?
If like the spies are coming in through the front door slow horses style. Yeah
Yes, I mean I guess I would do but I haven't thought about it too much
because it's a rental and we've only been in it six months.
What have I been doing?
I think about a little else.
That's when you really need to be friends
with your neighbours to help you
if the Russians come to get you.
Sue and Henry, honestly, would be great.
Okay, I love this.
I need to really give much more thought to this.
In fact, the minute we ring off, I will.
One for you, Richard.
Nicole Brooks is asking about sex on TV. Do you believe that we've
outgrown the sex scene? As a population, are we now able to access explicit content in
seconds from any device at any time? So do you think that sex scenes are still necessary
on screen or is an implied romance enough?
I think it's a really good time to ask that question because I think without really noticing,
the sex scene has almost completely disappeared.
So if you watch 80s, 90s television,
there's a lot of female nudity in it,
and it was really sort of taken for granted.
And actually bit by bit it's gone away,
because unless it's actually adding to the story,
which usually it is not, you can do things implied,
you can do things with camera angles,
then it's not necessary.
And actors have got slightly smarter at saying, I'm not entirely sure,
A, my character would do this and B, that they would, you know, it needs to be shown.
So I think it's one of those things that has sort of disappeared a bit, but I think
it's really come back in a big way.
And the reason I sort of think that is when you watch Rivals, which is absolutely
unapologetically full of nudity, you go, oh, of course, this is how television
used to be. It used to be like this all the time. And rivals do it to sort of show you
that it's a period piece. It's literally the job of rivals is to say, oh no, this is like
the 80s where there used to be this sort of thing on television all the time. And I do
think it's disappeared from television. It is unmissed, I would say, un lamented. As
Nicole said, if you genuinely want to see people
having sex, then OnlyFans hashtag graveyard is the place for you. But yeah, when you watch
Rivals, you go, oh yeah, TV used to be like this all the time.
Although there are very equal opportunities in it. And actually, that is the difference,
is that there's a sort of knowingness to it, all that. And also, you could hardly do that
but without. Yeah, exactly that. But yeah, it's fascinating how that's disappeared and people don't really seem to mind very much
It turns out it wasn't doing an awful lot apart from embarrassing
Teenage kids in front of their parents when they're watching an episode of the Sweeney
But I do think it's very odd in movies that that level of romance has disappeared for you know
And I spoke about it when slightly again why haven't I mentioned Glenn Powell for a few weeks on this podcast? But it is a bit odd in something like
Twisters where at the very end, you know, he's sort of basically saying, you know, can I call you when
I come to New York or something? Right, okay, there's not actually going to be any, you know,
there's obviously been a sort of romance or effectively a romance between them, but there
has been no kiss or anything in that movie and there isn't.
See, that's weirder. Because I think this is really odd. And this is happening. I think there's something quite effectively a romance between them, but there has been no kiss or anything in that movie and there isn't.
See, that's weirder.
I think this is really odd and this is happening, I think there's something quite odd about
all of that. Obviously, Marvel has completely effectively stripped it out and there are
very few kind of romantic plot lines. But in general, it's become very sexless in a
quite an odd way, I think, because the thing about movie stars is that they're the kind of gods and goddesses, if I can actually use a gendered term there.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, and maybe those are the people we still say, yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, okay, the gods.
But they're gods and goddesses and they're sort of the peak of physical perfection and
all those sort of things.
So it's quite odd, I think, when they're clearly put together in romantic situations, but no
romance actually occurs and it's sort of implied, but maybe it will happen at the end of the film.
I find that quite sort of, in some ways, oddly unsatisfying in terms of a plot.
Also when Glenn Powell says, can I call you?
The answer is no, you can text me mate.
If you're in New York, text me.
Do whatever you do, do not call me.
If you're calling me Glenn, I'm expecting you to save me from the assassin.
Which by the way, Glenn Powell could do. Oh, for sure. Thank God we're talking about Glenn Powell again. Or he might expecting you to save me from the assassin. Which by the way Glenn Powell could do.
Oh for sure.
Thank God we're talking about Glenn Powell again.
Or he might be an assassin.
It's been too long.
I know, it really has, hasn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah, by the way, just ask us something.
He'll play the assassin for you, but he'll also play the leader.
The person who saves you from the assassin.
Doesn't matter.
He'll play anything, as long as it's quite like a movie from the 90s.
The only person he's not going to play is the person who gets killed by an assassin.
Come on guys, because where's the sequel?
Glenn Powell is the final guy.
Of course there's a sequel, Ghost Powell, where Glen Powell plays a ghost of someone
murdered in the previous film against his best wishes.
He finds out in a table read that he's been murdered. He goes on to this morning and he
haunts the makers of the next movie.
He haunts the star.
But actually he turns out not to have really been dead and they're able, using science,
to revive him and Glenn Powell
returns to... maybe a soap opera in this case.
Hold on a minute though, but then his ghost dies. If he is dead, he becomes a ghost, right?
So we're watching ghost Glenn Powell. But if he then comes back to life, what happens
to the ghost?
I'm going to ask MIT about this, okay, because it's too complicated. I need science. Glenn
Powell could play the scientist.
Yeah, maybe ghost Glenn Powell is allowed to have sex.
Yeah, I wonder if he is. Is he actually not slated for the Ghost remake? Am I completely
wrong about that?
Oh, is he?
If anyone's going to do it, Glenn Powell will be in the Swayze role.
I guess so.
Is Glenn Powell going to be Patrick Swayze?
I guess so. I wonder who's writing it. If the studio are out there, I will very, very
happily do a draft on that for nothing.
So will I.
Because I have got a lot of ideas. I would very much happily do a draft on that for nothing. So will I. Because I've got a lot of ideas.
I would very much enjoy doing that draft with you.
Oh yeah, of course we'll both do a draft and it'll all be thanks to Nicole Brooks' question
about sex on TV.
She'll get an EP credit on that.
Yeah, Nicole you're going to be an EP on the new Glenn Powell ghost. Sex ghost, we're calling
it. It's the follow up to Ghost.
We want it all to be out there in the title. Richard says that everything has to be out
there in the title.
It's called Glenn Powell to Ghost. We want it all to be out there in the title. Richard says that everything has to be out there in the title. It'll be put up there in the getting.
It's called Glen Powell, Sex Ghost.
Ring me.
On that note.
No, don't ring me.
Text me.
Text me.
There we go.
It's all come together at the end.
On that note, Richard, I think we should draw to, I want to say graceful of conclusion,
but it hasn't been, has it?
Not really.
The bonus episode about Stephen Seagal out tomorrow.
Impossibly graceful, that one.
Yeah. Royal Albert Hall graceful, that one. Yeah.
Royal Albert Hall, 4th of December.
And to everyone saying, would you play Edinburgh, would you play Manchester?
Honestly, if this goes well, we will.
And if it goes badly, then we won't.
You'll never hear about it again.
Exactly.
All the best, everyone.
See you, everyone.
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