The Rest Is Entertainment - The Books You Must Read Before Turning 18

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

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Hello and welcome to this episode of The Rest is Entertainment questions and answers edition. I'm Marina Hyde. And I'm Richard Osman. Ciao, Marina. Ciao Richard. I'm still in Italy. Come stai? That's not Italian.

Oh, maybe it is. I thought it was Spanish. Well, don't correct anyone as you're walking around the street. I do that in restaurants all the time. Actually, your Italian is not great. I think you'll find you're speaking Spanish. I feel bad because Ingrid is fluent, I feel. I literally I just flounder in the background. Yeah, I don't have to say anything.

A true holiday. Yeah, true, a true holiday where I do nothing at all. But you're going to be saying some stuff now. Let me tell you. Hit me with a question. Yes, from Italy to France. And Dan Nader. Thank you, Dan. Dan asks, I've just read an article about Bono's concert film receiving a seven minute standing ovation at Cannes.

All of that sounds absurd to me. What is the history of the long standing ovation at Cannes? It seems like they do it for every film. You're totally right. You could eat a croissant and you'd get a standing ovation. They do do it for every single film. Actually, what's weird is that like all the trade publications, certainly, you know, the US trade publications all cover it

and they all time them slightly differently. And so if you actually have become so bored of the coverage of this seven minutes meaning something, if you actually go and look at things like Deadline Now and The Hollywood Reporter and Variety, no one is actually there with the stopwatch, I don't think. Otherwise, why all week have I just, or last week, have I been reading different accounts of how long each of Asian was but I suppose

they're roughly in the right ballpark they they do these close-ups and you see these people clapping some of them have been ridiculous the longest ever is pans labyrinth that was 22 minutes Wow right that's a fifth of the film's runtime sentimental value this year I want to say got 19 minutes now again you know it's L. Fanning well Kim Trier directed it and that's so that's right time. Sentimental value this year, I want to say got 19 minutes. Now, again, you know, it's Al Vanning, where Kim Trier directed it. So that's right up there with the big ones. Okay, so Joker got eight minutes in 2019. Its sequel, which as we know, absolutely fell through the floor as a cinematic endeavour, got 12 and a half minutes. Okay, they don't

know, they'll just clap anything. And also, I do find it slightly funny that given the high-brow nature of French cinema and all of its various pretensions that a sort of light entertainment clapometer is regarded as the measuring instrument of choice as to how good a film is. It does all sound absurd, just as you say, Dan. But funny enough, I was talking to a friend of mine who is a producer and who has four films showing at Cannes this year and said it is so stressful. You know instantly how well a film has done, it's going to do whether it's hit where you want it to hit. And I said, but how, what from the clapping? I don't know part of it, but it's in the air, it's in a vibe, it's incredibly stressful. The way people are talking about it, the buzz in the town, and you know, and you know, you

know, bear in mind your movie might not be out for eight months, and there's not a whole lot you can do after then. Which is why in some ways lots of producers say, let's not do it at Cannes, but a lot of the directors, of course, wanted to say, I want it to be Cannes or Venice. Cannes is sort of top of the tree in where they want to put it. And a lot of producers think, is it really worth that? Is that risk and reward thing? There's something in the air and to some extent, the applause is part of it. So even though it's ridiculous, it does sort of weirdly, a small part of what matters in a very, very kind of techy and nervy and stressful week

for producers. I'd hate it because I'm always, I always look at the end time of a film whenever I go to the cinema. If I've got to add 22 minutes to that, no thanks. But also, I always feel self-conscious doing a standing ovation if you're in a theatre or something. Because when I'm sat down, I always sit on the outside of a row. I always, always do first is a bit more leg room, but secondly, you don't really have people behind you.

But sometimes you have to sit with people behind you. And then the whole way through the theater, I'm feeling incredibly guilty because I'm sitting in front of someone. And then when people are doing standing ovation, I have to stand up in front of someone. That's even worse. I'm doubling my height of it.

You could do a sitting ovation and it would mean the same. Sometimes I do. But if you're ever a theater performer and you see me sitting down, it's only because there's someone short behind me and I want them to be able to see the curtain call. But also if you did a standing ovation, then just by sheer commanding virtue of your height, we'd all be taking our lead off you as to when to sit down.

For no other reason than, I'll just do what Richard's doing. I mean, I do that quite a lot anyway, but I would really be just waiting for you. You'd be like the host picking up the knife and fork first or something. Oh, I can see we can all start. Naturally, we'd gravitate towards you as the ovation leader. Yeah, you're right.

It's a lot of pressure for you. Don't ever go to Cannes. You'd hate it anyway. Oh yeah, I would never. Don't worry about that. I'll never. You can, you'll never see me in Cannes, I don't think. Now this next one is an absolutely lovely question.

And it's from Ellie Ashworth. She says, I'm a big reader and I'm turning 18 in a couple of months. I was wondering what three books do you recommend I should read before I turn 18 or when I turn 18? Such a great question, isn't it? Because you immediately think, what should I read before 18? And you think, okay, I'm 18 now. What am I ready for? I love this. Ellie, thank you so much. Firstly, happy birthday for when it happens. Pre-18, I've got a few suggestions. I suspect you might have a few suggestions as well. I thought The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark would be a great book to read before you're 18 because it's about that time of life and it's from a different age,

but actually all the messages of it resonate. Yeah, I reread it I think last summer and it's, you know, if it's from a different age, but actually all the messages of it resonate. Yeah, I reread it, I think last summer, and it was even sort of, yes, it's incredibly modern and resonant in terms of that. And a great thing to read when you're 17 as well, I would say, the Prime Minister, June Brodie, have you got one? Well, I would say, can I talk about types of books?

When I was 18, I went to a girls' school and there were lots of great readers, and I don't want to denigrate any of the types of books people were reading. But I remember coming out of that and we didn't read sort of big historical biographies, we didn't read things like that. And in a funny kind of way, I think we didn't think that they were for us and that, you know, this is a long time ago, perhaps they were for people's brothers or for men in general. And I remember coming close to some lots of clever boys when I was about 18 and thinking, but they've read all

these things. And I remember thinking, well, why shouldn't I? Why should I not start reading books about, you know, doesn't have to be the great men of history, many of the great women of history. And I started reading quite kind of challenging historical books at that age because I thought otherwise, if I don't do it now then I'm just sort of saying this stuff isn't for me and I think that's rubbish. You know, I can't think of all the interesting ones I've read over the time. I remember reading a brilliant Frida Kahlo one. Funny enough, I was just asking Dominic Sandbritt for brilliant books about ancient Egypt and he said we know so little about the period

but there was a really good brilliantly written biography of Cleopatra by Stacey Schiff. So I've bought that now, but that's the sort of thing I would have enjoyed reading when I was 18. Just thinking you have to get your eye in in a weird way because they do seem kind of weighty and hard and whatever, but once you get through that, one of my recommendations is for types of books that you instinctively feel, or maybe they're not for me. Just do the opposite, do the opposite. Can I say one thing about reading when you're 17 that's that's tricky is because you're still at school, and you are still having to learn things and being tested on those things.

And it gives you a certain attitude towards what it is that you read, which is, is this improving me in some way? What do I get out of this? And actually, when you get older, you completely lose that you just read for pleasure and you read because you want to learn things. And the younger you can think, I can read a book about Cleopatra or Frida Kahlo just because I want to enrich myself. Yeah, I'm remembering which book, the first historical biography that I read was Roy Jenkins' one on Winston Churchill. It's a single volume and it's brilliant. Okay, so I pushed myself through that. It was hard, it's hard, but it's also brilliantly written by the way, I have to say, because it was different

sorts of things to what I've been reading before. But now I can read those things that not just for boys, they're not just for other people. And I think that a lot of that has changed. Oh great, Edison can now I have to read a 500 page Roy Jenkins biography? No, she's not thinking that. I knew you'd say that. But you know what? Women have often felt excluded out of that type of reading. And my point is you're not excluded out of any type of reading and you're not excluded from anything that you feel like, oh, I don't think that's meant for me. Just read it, honestly.

And you're beginning your swashbuckling adventures where, as you say, Richard, no one tells you what to read anymore. I think you have to read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I think you probably have to. I think you certainly have to equate yourself with Douglas Adams before you're 18 and what it is that he does while your mind is still flexible enough to kind of work out what it is he's doing and work out the worlds that he's teaching you about. A great funny book if you've not read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy before 18, I would think that would be mandatory. I agree. I'm doing another category now, but I

don't know if you have any idea of what you want to do, Ellie. I certainly had absolutely no idea and I continue to have no idea for a very long time after the age of 18. Having said that, I knew what I liked reading about. So I loved reading books about entertainment and musicians and movies and things I was never going to do. I knew I didn't want to direct a movie and I knew I didn't want you know want to be a rock musician but I read a lot about that sort of thing and it's funny now I like everything it makes sense in retrospect here I am every week talking about those things but I started reading about all those things that was when you could

start reading things and just think I'm interested in this and when I went to university when I was 18 you know I remember thinking God I can get any now, any book at all, because I had access to a library with everything. Now we just call it the internet. But anyway, honestly, would call up books about things like silversmithing or mazes or Renaissance gardens or whatever. And a huge amount of time, yes, I would just look at the pictures, but I would. But you could get anything. And so just going on a tour and thinking, oh, hang on, now that's made me think I want to know about that. And now I want to know that. And now I want to know what Hong Kong looked like in the 1930s. And you could do all of those things. So I sort of, I suppose, traveled in a library

then and that was really interesting. Now you can do that a lot more easily online. And I think that's the same, but nonetheless, going on one of those journeys that just, there's always another thing that takes you somewhere else. Read books about things and funnily enough, they may come in useful right when you're as old as me. So what you're saying is don't read the books you're being told to read. I'll give my third one to read before you're 18. I'll give it a choice. Norton Crosses by Madhuri Blackman. I'm sure you've read it. If you've not, absolutely you have to cross that off the list. She's a genius. Or if you've not read Agatha Christie, it's a perfect time to start. It's pre-18. Maybe start with And Then There Were None,

something like that. So I would say Muriel Spark, Douglas Adams, Madary Blackman, slash Agatha Christie, and my three. And you're saying Roy Jenkins' biography of Churchill, something about Renaissance gardens. And what's your third one, Highway Code? I love that you think that's what I've been saying. I'm so sorry that's all you heard. I'm so sorry. It must be nice not to think that you are limited for certain things, but I wanted to look outwards. I'm now gonna recommend a specific book I read

when I was 18 called L'Hompris Dictionary and it's by a guy called Lawrence Norfolk. And I remember just honestly picking it up off a bookshop table because it must have just come out. It was such an extraordinary kind of weird, malarial, amazing novelistic adventure set in historical France. It was so crazy and I thought he had the most amazing mind and I was like fascinated to see where it went. I have no idea how it was reviewed by the people who loved it but it made such a huge impression on me at that age. What's the name again?

Lawrence Norfolk. It's called L'Ompriere's Dictionary. I'm going to suggest perfect book to read after you're 18, The Secret History, Donna Tartt. Oh yeah. If you've not read that, so that's a great because also it's about getting a little bit older and it's about making your way into the world and something extraordinary happening. And it's just a brilliantly written, beautiful book. Oh yeah, all those books but by those that sort of American

brat pack fiction writers less than zero, Bretty Stenellis. Yeah. That was a big one when you're 18. So I'll also add because we've given you lots and lots of recommendations there might be a good time to start Martin Amos with work out if you like him or not maybe start with London Fields if you don't like him. What about that I wonder whether people feel still feel the same about him where maybe that was just a generational thing and I you know who whoever the Martin Amos is of now I don't know but whether people still feel the same about him. Maybe that was just a generational thing. Whoever the Martin Danes is of now, I don't know, but maybe people just feel like that's Sally Rooney.

Also, I'd recommend maybe Slaughterhouse 5 or any Kurt Vonnegut if you've not read him. And also Great Gatsby because I think it speaks to our time. I know those are quite cliched choices. Now I feel guilty because yours are also brilliantly esoteric and smart. Mine? Mine is just weird. They're not even proper choices as usual, but they were just areas that I became interested in. But the key thing I would say is happy birthday Ellie. Yeah, happy birthday Ellie.

And your message, which is read what people wouldn't expect you to read, is a very beautiful one. That took longer than we expected, I think. Shall we go to a break? I'm so sorry. Yes, let's go to a break. Our friends at Sky, proud partners of The Rest is Entertainment, made finding something to watch as easy as saying what you're in the mood for. Say comedy, true crime, whatever you like into your remote and Sky will bring up a range of shows and movies from all of your apps and channels in an instant. Now this month we're all about dramas.

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catastrophically allergic to stability, but trying. Watch the brand new season of And Just Like That, available 30th May on Sky. of May on Sky. Welcome back everybody. Now I'm going to try and be much more formatted in the second half. And speaking of great formats, can we talk about Race Across the World because Kate Emery has sent in a brilliant question. Are there people in the production team dedicated to mapping the route each season of Race Across the World? And do they themselves have to try it out before the contestants? Thank you, Kate.

Yes, it's a very, very long drawn out process. As you know, the new series is China, that sort of area. So the first thing they'll do is what we would do if we were going on holiday, which is you research every route around every bit of China. You're looking for the places you'd like to visit. You start making inquiries as to whether that's somewhere you could visit. You look into whether there's issues with visas and what have you. So you start very, very, very basically. You then start drawing up possible routes because you know how many episodes you've

got. You know how many contestants you've got. You know exactly how the show is going to work. Done it before. So you start thinking, well, we definitely want to be in Beijing. We definitely want to go to Shanghai. Could we go to Nanjing? Where are we going to cross the border?

Where is there an interesting selection of transport, you know, where you have to get a ferry to an island or do you get a train to the ferry, just ways that you know you can mix up the contestants and give them options. So you'll do that. You draw a huge Bible. By the way, this is Tim Harker, who's the exec on Race Across the World, who's very kindly answered all sorts of Race Across the World questions for us. And he says, at this stage, you've got these detailed maps, possible routes, possible types of transport. It's always important that there's two or three different ways to reach

a destination. That's the key. If there's not, if there's like one boat or one train that covers a whole leg, then it's not of interest. So then Tim says they send out a team. So two people will go out and stress test the routes. And those two people, one of them has access to what the trains are, what the ferries are, different ways of traveling in different countries, different ways of traveling in different environments. The other person has none of it. Now, the person who has the information is not allowed to tell the other person any of it. So it's there because as a producer would know, they know essentially what they're trying to achieve. But the other person is absolutely seeing the whole thing blind. It throws up completely

new ideas and completely new routes that would not have occurred to them as well. So you get the best of both worlds. They then come back with lots of footage and all sorts of things as well report back on exactly what it is they've done exactly what happened, you know, that actually this interchange we thought where you can get a coach and then there's a train, it doesn't exist anymore. It's not there anymore. You know, it's closed down for repairs or you go there and actually it's a three day it doesn't exist anymore. It's not there anymore. You know, it's closed down for repairs or you go there and actually it's a three day delay. So we thought it was a eight hour delay. It's a three day delay. So you get all of that information. And Tim says everyone wants to get these the

jobs of being the people who stress test the roots they go Oh my god, that sounds like the most fun is but it's like doing the show yourself, you know, without any pressure. And he says, all of them come back and go, oh my God, that's the hardest thing I ever did. That was like virtually impossible. But when they get back, you've got all the information that you've done in the UK, you've got all the information you've got on the road as well.

And then those people are often joined the production crew and will be going on those routes themselves anyway. So it just means that every single thing has been stress tested in every possible way. We had another question actually, someone was asking him about what happens when contestants get knocked out, do they go straight home? And I thought that was interesting as well, because not only is it the

contestants, it's the people who are following them, it's their production crew. Essentially, and you know, sometimes they just don't even reach a checkpoint. They're given a couple of days to decompress, to enjoy themselves, you know, wherever they are. And then, yeah, they go straight home. But the crew are then sent out to bolster the other crews who are following the other contestants. Because as you see, as you get towards the end of that show, some of the drone shots you're doing, some of the big location stuff you're doing is so technical and so involved. Actually, the more people you can get, the more producer directors you get who are all in the same place, the better.

But it's one of those jobs, I think, if you wanted to work in television, that feels like the absolute dream because you're traveling the world, but it is absolute graft from start to finish. And lovely that you've got this huge hit show, so it feels like you're doing something that people are loving and people are watching.

But my God, in the same way that the contestants really go through it, which is why we love that show so much, the crew really, really goes through it as well. But I love the fact that you send out two people, one of them knows everything, the other one knows nothing, and the person who knows everything is not allowed to tell you anything. That's incredible.

How do you think we'd do if we were contestants on this? Contestants? Yeah. Oh, terribly. Of all the shows in the world, I would hate to be on that show so much because the thing that would drive me mad is like the 15-hour coach journeys. And you know full well that no one's seeing that.

All anyone's seeing is you've been stressed just beforehand because you can't find the bus station. And then you've been crotchety afterwards because you've had no sleep for 15 hours on a Chinese bus. And when you're watching it, you go, oh, hold on. All people are seeing is me being stressed and then annoyed. And they didn't see the 15 hours where I literally was just lost my mind with boredom and we had to stop 15 times and there was no toilets. No one saw any of that. So they just go, that guy's a bit moody, isn't it? And I'd be like,

yeah, you'd be moody if you just had to sit next to Marina for 15 hours on a bus and she's got loads of leg room and I've got none. I'm getting annoyed about the leg room even now. I think we'd hear a lot about your leg room, wouldn't you? Yeah, but none of it would make the edit. I'd love it. Would you? Yeah, I'd love to do it. But I don't sleep anyway, so what's the difference? I don't

sleep. But I know that I, of course, you know, I'm not stupid enough to think I wouldn't be kind of exposed for moments of crotchinessiness but I would love the adventure I must say. You would be in a Mason team with your husband. That would be because you have very very complimentary skill sets and one of you would be carrying the team at any given time. You're looking like he has no skill set to offer you. No, Kieran would be really good on it. He's really practical on things like that, particularly on travel. But I think I could bring something. I would love to do that. Vibes. You'd bring the vibes. I'm sure they'd have you on the celebrity one. He has driven me across America three times now and I bought incredible

vibes in the passenger seat. It was a huge, I was basically number one for vibes. Marina very much on vibes and snacks. Right, come on, ask me one. Okay, I have a question for you from David Adam. I was looking through some old DVDs at my local library and I picked up the classic that is Running Man and came across what I think might be one of the best taglines ever. It is the year 2019. The Running Man is a deadly game. No one has ever survived. But Schwarzenegger has yet to play. A few questions if I may. Do you both have a favourite tagline? How important do you think they are? In the streaming age, has their importance been lost? What has perhaps replaced them?

Okay, I could do a podcast series on this. I love this. First of all, I love that tagline. That's interesting, that tagline, isn't it? Because by that stage, we know that Schwarzenegger has become absolutely huge as an action star, but they're using his name rather than the character's name which is really, there's lots of interesting things about that. Basically a tagline is a piece of copywriting. I've always been fascinated by advertising copywriting from the sort of golden age. Movie advertising copywriting got to stay the same really because you were still doing the same thing and it mainly came off movie posters. It's a key part of the visual art really I suppose you would say. Probably the greatest one maybe is Alien in Space No One Can Hear You Scream. Ridley Scott who directed Alien he was an ad man and so

he would have really cared about that but do you know who came up it's really interesting story of this Barbara Gips. It's usually Salman Rushdie. Okay it isn't Salman Rushdie in this case. Her husband Barbara Gips' husband whose name I'm afraid is lost to me but he was designing the poster art for it and she had five kids she's in the car with four of them one night, and she was going along Riverside Drive in New York and she saw the sort of black water of the river and she thought, God, space must be so lonely. And she said, what about this for that movie that dad's doing the art for? And her teenage daughter thought it was really good.

It does that key thing where it creates a vibe. It's so intriguing. You know exactly what the vibe is, but it's no spoilers. It's nothing, you know, it's absolutely brilliant. It's created a whole mood and it's done it with such economy of words. I mean, it's so few words. It tells you immediately it's sci-fi and it's psychological horror. Just without, you know, everyone understands it. But it pulls you in and that's what great advertising copywriting does. And she became

a copywriter for movies off the back of that. No way. And then there are certain ones that I just sort of remember and they're so tied in with the visual arts of the poster. So I'm thinking of like really old ones. Like I don't know if you've ever seen whatever happened to baby Jane. Sister, sister, oh so fair. Why is there blood all over her hair?

So there were things like that. But then I don't know. Those are old ones. Obviously Jaws, You'll never go in the water again, which turned out to be prophetic. And then once the bad movies like Jaws 2, just when he thought it was safe to go back in the water, that's brilliant. A lot of the horror is great. The fly, be afraid, be very afraid. That's a good one. What are my other favorites? Mean Streets, you don't make up for your sins in church,

you do it in the streets. And that's actually the first line that you hear in the movie in the black before it even comes up. The movie is, you don't make up for your sins in church. You do it in the streets. You do it at home. The rest is bullshit. And you know, and it's like a bad dream, Harvey Keitel's character is having. So it's really, I love that. Bonnie and Clyde, this tells you the whole story. I mean, they're young, they're in love and they kill people. What's that one? God hang on I've got to actually look up the name of this film I've never seen this film and every time I think of the tagline it makes me laugh and I want to see the film and By the way, I'm not the only one who's recognized it unwittingly. He trained a dolphin to kill the president of the United States

Oh, yes, it's a George C Scott film called day of the dolphin Stay with the jackal, but it's with a really cute little porpoise So there's lots of those ones I'm to answer your question as to why we don't see them so much more. The answer to that is that so much now is the trailers and you see the trailers online, you see all the places. The visual arts, the posters, the print basically is just not what it was. So you don't see those still images which had to have a great line that grabbed you. There's one that I really like for a terrible, terrible movie, which is called Central Intelligence with the rock and Kevin Hart. It says saving the world takes a little heart and a big Johnson. Come on, come on.

Yeah, it's good. The social network was good. You don't get to 500 million friends without making a few enemies. That's good. Do you remember that movie gross point blank, every hitman deserves a second shot. Oh, that's good as well. Then there are the sort of ones that everyone remembers. Apollo 13, Houston, We Have A Problem. There are certain ones that become so iconic. And then there are really bad ones. The script of Harry Met Sally,

when Harry Met Sally is so good, that Nora Ephron script is basically faultless. As far as I'm concerned, it's a perfect movie. But the trailer is, can two friends sleep together and still love each other in the morning? It's also kind of longer than the film. Come on guys, make it snappy. And then there are sort of funny ones like the Austin Powers one that said, if you see

one film this summer, make it Star Wars. If you see two, make it Austin Powers, the Spanish Agni. I've said before that the follow up to Mel Brooks's Spaceballs was going to be called Spaceballs 3, the search for Spaceballs 2. I mean, there are so many. It's not a completely lost art, but it's a lost art purely because the level of print and still advertising has dwindled massively. You can imagine someone growling in space, no one can hear you scream, but so many of them work really well as a piece of advertising written copy. But yes, I absolutely love them and there are about

a million that I didn't include there. So I could go on forever. Maybe we'll do it another time. Okay, yeah. That just also reminded me that Ingrid is currently playing Mini Driver's sister in a Netflix show. In that Harlan Coban? Yeah. Oh, right. Having gone on that long about taglines, I think we had better wrap up. If

you are a member of our club, which you can join, the rest is entertainment.com. We have the second part of our story of Pixar, the animation house, which I'm afraid is gonna have to get to John Lasseter's special hugs in this week's episode. But otherwise, we will be back as usual next Tuesday. Next Tuesday, and don't forget, if you listen to this in the morning, the Thursday Murder Club trailer is coming out this afternoon. I don't think it has a tagline, which is a shame. Perhaps I'll think of one for the next

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