The Rest Is Football: Daly Brightness - Champions League Nights In Barcelona, Last Minute Winners & A Taxi Trip Gone Wrong

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

Why are Chelsea full of belief they can pull off another epic Champions League comeback, this time against Barcelona? What’s been the secret behind Aston Villa hitting form at such a crucial time? How did Millie and Rach end up at a random warehouse because of ‘Tony’? Rachel & Millie also describe how they had to rescue their mums after they ended up stranded together in the early hours of the morning at the 2019 World Cup in France. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Before we get into today's episode of Daily Brightness, we just want to say a huge thank you to Shaw for helping bring our podcast to life. Obviously, this is something that we've wanted to do for a while. Teaming up with Goldhanger was an absolute no-brainer for us, but I think it's more just probably to get our points out there. I think like before, Rach, it's about bringing Daily Brightness to life. And I think when we first invented it, if you like, it was all about communicating with each other, having that safe space to kind of be a little bit vulnerable and just showing our raw, authentic selves. And I think for us, the podcast is that.

And that's why I think we're extremely grateful for sure to give us that opportunity and kind of bringing it to life and allowing us to now have it on a wider spectrum and connecting with the fans again. But also some of the things in the women's game that really need to be better and the problems and boundaries that we still face and I think as players current players as well we can really touch on that and you know hopefully bring a little bit of attention but ultimately it's just about sharing who we are as people and

yeah like I said we're really really grateful that Shora have given us this opportunity and supported us since day one. Obviously it's been amazing that Shaw have backed us from the start and all the way through this now but exciting to have them be alongside us for this exciting summer of football and they'll be with us every step of the way so we're grateful for them to be alongside us sharing this journey as well. So thanks again to Shaw and thank you all for tuning in. Welcome to The Rest Is Football Daily Brightness. I'm Millie Bright. And I'm Rachel Daly.

And this is your weekly dose of all things football and our friendship. So, Rach, how have you been? Seems like I've done so much since the last spent time with you, but, yeah, good. Obviously coming back off the weekend was good for us, but feeling good. I'm currently up in Leeds at the minute. Family time. Yeah, come to see my brother, my nephew.

Obviously it was his third birthday on Friday, so up here spending the day with them. How are you doing? Life is good. Obviously a tough game for us last night late night you know what it's like evening games can't sleep wide awake so i'm running on empty today um but other than that life is really good i actually went to an art gallery in london wow did you get anything no just it was more like uh it's called frameless. So is that pictures without frames? Yeah. Basically, the room is the picture.

So you go in and then basically the art is everywhere. It's projected everywhere. It's really sick, actually. So that's one of my things this year. I want to explore more. Love that. Yeah. Don't you find you get in a routine of just going to training,

come home, spend time with the dogs, walk the dog, go to bed, get up, go to training, come home, walk the dogs. Oh, I know. And then your off day is just filled with like... Cleaning. Adulting stuff. Yeah. Literally, it's like, oh, this is what I've got to do today. I've got a day off, get in and get to chill.

No, you don't. You've got to clean the bathrooms, you've got to clean the stairs, you've got to sleep with the floor. So, yeah, I'm trying to explore more, do more things. So, i thought london was a great place to start so yeah did an art gallery i love that do you know what i did this week what redid my downstairs bathroom shock by the way for everyone listening rach is like interior designer she loves ripping things out and just been like she'll just text me like by the the way, look what I've done. Look at this.

I've just put these shelves up and absolute Bob the Builder. Yeah, it's probably bodge jobs, but I get it done. I find a way to get it done. But I redecorated the downstairs bathroom. My neighbour came over, bless him, and changed my taps. So I basically just made it a whole new bathroom. Again, day off, what do you do? Renovate. Yeah, I need to get my garden done. whole new bathroom. Again, day off, what do you do? Renovate.

Yeah. I need to get my garden done. Summer's coming. Oh, I'll come and help. Yeah. Do you want to actually? Yeah. We can make that a thing.

Definitely. Well, I do think there's one thing we need to share. Obviously, we had an amazing media day the other day for our podcast. And I do think there's one story that needs to be told. Tony. Tony. Tony. Who the is Tony? Right, basically, to all the people listening, right,

I actually weed a little bit. Needs to be pelvic floor. Yeah, I do. I've got a meeting with her next week. We were having a media day, great time, but we had to skip from one place to the next just for this one part. And the car was waiting for us, or what we thought the car was waiting for us,

outside the facility where we were. So, you know, the driver said, oh, is this the address you're going to? Millie was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. I didn't actually check. I was on my phone. I can't do two things at once. Shock.

So I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's cool so we got in this taxi there's me millie and our agent sue and it's only supposed to be a four or five minute journey was it about 12 minutes passes and we pull up to a warehouse and i was thinking this can't be right this definitely isn't where we need to be. And he went, no. Right then, Tony, thank you. Get out. I can't even laugh. It was in that moment and I just thought, we're in the wrong car. Yeah, and I just burst out laughing.

I was like, who the, it's Tony. Am I Tony? It was one of those moments, wasn't it, where Sue was frantically trying to like resolve the situation and we were just absolutely creasing

laughing this poor driver was just like huh? get out he was like are you not Tony? I was like

no mate I'm not Tony I was like don't worry there's obviously been a misunderstanding it's my fault I was the one

that didn't pay attention getting in the cab he went that's why I checked I did check I did ask you and I went yeah yeah

I know it's me don't worry oh He went, that's why I checked. I did check. I did ask you. And I went, yeah, yeah, I know. It's me. Don't worry. Oh, God. Funny story. That's a typical us thing. Yeah, that is literally, that could be like, that's what you watch on Netflix. Like, people get stolen from things like that.

Literally. It's like taken. We did, yeah. I won't find you. But we did make it to the second part of our media day in the end, safely. We did. And I learned a valuable lesson. Always check the address.

Even if you didn't earn the gesture, you'd have just said yeah anyway. Yeah, I know. I'm a kidding. But yeah, it was a great day though. It was a good day, wasn't it? It was a good day. It was a good day. So what time did you get back last night?

I got back about, I think it was like half two, three. Oh. But then you can't sleep, can you? Like, I'm just replaying all the moments of the game in my head. I'm like, ah, like, shit, what if I'd have done that better? And da-da-da-da. And yeah, you know what it's like. You just replay everything over and over again.

So did you just, like, play the game and then fly straight back? Yeah, so we travel. We always travel. Away games, we always travel night before. And did you just play the game and then fly straight back? Yeah, so we always travel. At away games, we always travel night before, and then you can just chill. It's a bit of a long day on game day, because obviously it's evening kick-off, and then straight after the game, doping again, of course.

Millie's done it every single time. I'm literally, I want my stats. I want to know how many times I've been picked, because it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It seriously is. So I did doping and i literally me and kira had it and we had to have um we had to be done by a certain time to make the plane so i was like i've got to be on that plane i need to be on that plane i feel like drug testing is

never random because every time they show up at villa it's like rachel daly as soon as i see them as soon as i see them blue bibs I'm like oh I'll be with you in a sec see you soon brilliant but what do you think from the reaction to our first episode like it's been a week now

do you know what it's been really positive I feel like I've had like great feedback from like a wide array of people as well so it's not just like people in football, like, you know, it's multiple different people from different walks of life that have all loved it. Like said that they've enjoyed the way it was delivered and the content and can't wait for the next one. So I think the reaction has been really positive.

A couple of the girls, Coxie and Ashley Lawrence, they watched it on the plane out. Oh. And they came up to me after and they were like, Mil, we absolutely loved it. Because Coxie came up to me and she was like,

where can I listen to it? Where can I watch? And they both pressed start, play at the same time and then they listened to it and they were like, we loved it. Oh, that's cute.

Shout out to them then. Yeah, shout out girls. Love you both. But no, it was really nice because they were just like, you can obviously see how close you both are and like why the dynamics

work really well and yeah they loved it they loved like the content and what we were talking about and yeah good little feedback my um

striker coach you know Sean Goater the goat absolutely legend shout out to him he didn't know I was doing a podcast and I told him about it

and he was like oh my god I did not know you two were that close you two are like twins and he absolutely loved it like he sent me a really nice voice note after he listened to it on his way home so that was cute but i think it's nice when i think like your friends and stuff and like people close to you listen to it yeah that means a lot my brother exactly this morning he's like obviously naturally let me get in on the show where is it get him in on that orange sofa don't because he will literally be running in here but he was like it's absolutely brilliant like your podcast is so good and of course he was like and i've had a mention already so if you can keep mentioning me go on

andy okay so here you go here's another one are you sure you want to do podcasts at my house you can do it at my house in my office if you want you're going to be there every week now i know seriously it's great setup to be fair but no i think the feedback has been really positive and i think it because it's not an easy thing to do is it like when it's we're completely going out of our comfort zones to do stuff like this so i think it's nice that you get that feedback and gives you a little bit of confidence to go again. Yeah, it's been good, really good reactions. And listen, got to give the fans what they want.

Exactly. They want daily brightness. They've got daily brightness. They get us in full swing. So obviously, tough game yesterday. 4-1 against Barca, but it's never going to be an easy game against Barca, is it? How's the overall feeling?

If anyone can turn this around, it is Chelsea, so no pressure. Yeah, I think obviously we've got to take confidence from the game and I think like all the goals are preventable. I think from our standards, obviously we're not happy with that. And, you know, I said it before the game, when you're coming up against a team like this, you defensively, you have to be on it. Like you have to be on it like you have to be it has to be your best game um and for us we just fell short in certain moments and it's small margins and against teams like that you can't you can't make those sorts of mistakes but the positive is that we scored we created chances i just don't think we implemented ourselves into the game as much as we wanted to and really showed like Chelsea.

However, we know what we can do at the bridge. The fans behind us, our atmosphere, our conditions, how we want to play. And yeah, coming on to home turf is a difficult place to come. So listen, we've got to go and give it everything

and we will give it everything. So the tie's never over till it's done. Of course. I think that's what over until it's done. Of course. I think that's what I mean. It's a different game. And like going there is always going to be tough. But equally,

it's going to be tough for them coming back to you guys. And I think you've got such good experience in that group as well. Like obviously Lucy played at Barca.

Yeah. A lot of you have been regulars in the Champions League. So I think it's all to play for second half it's possible it's the champions league so yeah we've got obviously we've got a midweek game as well so it's a great opportunity to to bounce back get straight back out there and dust off the loss and yeah first and foremost we want to get another win in the league yeah please do that's not that job's not done yet and then then, yeah, that'd help you guys. And then, obviously, straight back into Champions League again.

So I think the best thing after a loss is immediately playing a game again, which we've got that opportunity. So I think it's a good thing. Yeah, you've got to have short-term memory, as every footballer knows that. But, I mean, like you said, it's better to go bounce straight back into a game rather than have to dwell on it all week in training. Exactly. Another big game in the league that you must win.

I'll score for your try. Please do. Please do. Massive game for yous. 3-2 against Tottenham. Big win. It was a big win. I've seen the highlights.

Yeah, it was a good game, to be fair. I think it was obviously... It's hard because obviously we beat Liverpool, but then we've had such a big break. Yeah. So obviously we played Forest in a friendly, Everton in a friendly. So like that was two games to kind of like kick us on,

but to get the whole team back and it should have been another good week of training. And it's that same sort of mindset where we're just like, right, we can go on and we need points really. So like, yeah, take the pressure off you and just enjoy the game. And I think it's,

that's again how it felt. I know I sound like I'm repeating myself, but it's like, obviously we went 2-0 up and then conceded two quite quickly in the second half. But again, it was that same sort of thing.

I was like, we're not going to lose. It's fine. Yeah. You just look like you've got that spark back, like that little, that little oomph that you're never going to quit.

Like you're going to get a goal. Like you can, I think you can You're going to get a goal. I think you can see that in your performances. Yeah. And I mean, Kirsty Hansen is just... She just keeps scoring. I said her minute to goal ratio is absolutely insane these last few games. She literally ran so far and then dribbled, shrugged off people and then just slotted it in. That was the winner, yeah.

So she'd come on. Yeah, that was the winner. And then I was just like, never in doubt, put her in the space, yeah. So she'd come on. Yeah, that was the winner. And then we were just, I was just like, never in doubt, like put her in the space, go. Yeah, she was off. Yeah. Yeah, she was off. She's flying.

So I think that was good as well to get her on the score sheet again. She's been doing so good. Three different goal scorers. Not me though. God. Can't buy one. You won't get one.

No, but I was, got a little assist. I was going to say that's all that matters. You're in there. You're always in and around the goals whether it's scoring

or assisting. I think that's one of your top qualities. Absolute pain in my arse when we play against you. Yeah, you know what I'm like? I just, I don't,

it doesn't bother me who scores, who assists. I just want to win and we need to win and you know, it was a proper team performance again yesterday and just got to do your bit for the team aren't you what is the mentality like like is it is that something that you guys are conscious of is it

a conversation or like you said is it just about girls go out and have fun give it 100% be confident and then the qualities will will come through or yeah and I think that exactly but I think it's just finally starting to click a little bit. Like we're kind of growing into the system and obviously it's this change of style of play and people are just kind of finding the feet in the system, I think, and adapting to it. And I think,

you know, it is like take the pressure off, like strip it back, like just enjoy the game. And everyone sort of, you can just sort of tell that everyone has that bit of belief, whether it's subtle, whether it's out there, like there's just that bit of like, we're all right, we're all right, we'll be fine. And there's not many games left now, we're literally coming to closing parts of the season.

Yeah, so that's why I think it's so important now that, you know what it's like in our league, like if you start off on the wrong foot, it's a really hard thing to kind of get back in. Like you think, you look at a team like Spurs, who we played yesterday night, they had a really good running, didn't they? They were just winning so many games. And I think they've kind of tailed off a little bit now, but that's, again,

we started really slow, really slow. And then it's like, we just needed to kick on in this last bit and try and push through. And it's the same anywhere in the league, isn't it? Like you go in ebbs and flows. Apart from Chelsea, you just win all the time.

I'm going, you know what it's like, but you don't at all. Hey. No, but it's happened to all the teams this year. I think, like I say, we started slow and it's now like we just need to kick on and get through this last bit. What are your last three games?

So we have Arsenal. Arsenal is a midweek game because obviously they're a Champions League game. Yeah. So that's next Wednesday. Then we have West Ham. They're flying at the minute. Yeah, I know.

Flying. What's their stat like? Last five games, they've not dropped any points. Ridiculous. Yeah, they're doing so well. Arsenal, West Ham, Brighton. It's the right time to be informed though. Yeah, hopefully, hopefully.

We'll just keep doing what we're doing and the rest will take care of itself, hopefully. But we'll see. Nervy. Definitely the right time to be picking up some form, Rach. So three big games to go. But for now, we're going to take a little break and we'll be back soon.

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Welcome back to The Rest Is Football Daily Brightness. So, Rach, obviously at your brother's, Andy, I'm just going to give you another shout out because I know you've been appreciating it. But I thought whilst we were on the topic, we should probably let everyone into a little bit of knowledge on our families, who everyone is, what the dynamics are, how crazy they both sets of families are.

So, yeah, I don't know if you want to kick us off and give us a little bit of background on Andy. He wants to be star of the show. I'll be fast forwarding to this point tomorrow um yeah i think obviously for anybody that knows us they know how important family is to both of us um and living far away from them is quite hard isn't it like yeah it's the hardest part of the game yeah i think obviously me living away for so long in like america and stuff it was so difficult.

And coming back now, it's so nice to be able to just like, even when you're tired and stuff, it's so nice to just get that little buzz from your nephews and stuff like that. Because obviously we're just running around with little kids all the time, nephews running around wild everywhere. Okay, brief introduction. I'm here at my brother's house. He is a ledge. Absolutely love him. We get on so well. And he has just brought the best thing into the world, which is my nephew, Orson.

So Andy's just a ledge. We get on like a house on fire. His wife, Annabelle, is going out for the day today. So he's in charge of baby duties. And I'm not so baby. He's three now. So I thought I'd come up and spend the day with him and help out and you know what it's like. Is he going to be wearing the same jumper as you?

He will probably be wearing his Leeds shirt at some point. Massive day. Huge, huge Leeds fans in this household. I literally just bought my nephew a mini electric quad bike for his birthday, right? Best gift ever. And I rang my brother and I was like, Andy, the only one available is red. And there's like red ban in this house because of Man United, right? So I was like, I need to get the red one because I've left it last minute and there isn't any of the colours available. It was like, it's fine, it's fine. Austin doesn't dislike red as much as me, so it's fine.

So I brought it in this morning. He was so happy. He went, actually, but Daddy doesn't like red. Right then. Right. fine so i brought in this morning he was so happy he went uh actually but daddy doesn't like red right then right you can paint it also we can paint it mate so i'm assuming that what we'll do today is paint that quad bike yeah i'm all for painting it a different color you know my thoughts on red yeah i do tend to wear red from time to time but you know we'll keep that at bay keep it at bay. Absolute minimum. But talk to us about your nephews, Mel, because they're such a big part of your journey. Yeah, massive.

Just when you were talking about it then and being at a distance, obviously I've got Vinnie and Harvey and then I've got Albie. And I always get texts. It's like a running joke in the family. You know what I'm like. I spoil my nephews so, so much. Whatever they want, they get. You don't get to see them that much so that's my way of like connecting with them and you know

FaceTime every day and they always text me like Auntie Millie do you think we could get some V books I ran out of V books can you play Fortnite so I had to I had to learn how to play Fortnite just to like be with the kids and now I get FaceTime Auntie Millie you want to play Fortnite can we play Fortnite I've run out of V books Auntie now I get FaceTime. Antimilly, you want to play Fortnite? Can we play Fortnite? I've run out of V-Bucks, Antimill. I've ran out. Or they'll ask my sister for something. She'll be like, no, for whatever reason.

I message Antimilly, it's fine. What actually are V-Bucks? I feel like kids talk about it all the time, but I don't really know what they are. Well, for any younger people listening, don't come for me because I'm still learning about all this stuff. But I think V-Bucks is something on Fortnite where it's like coins.

And then with those coins, you can buy like outfits. And I'm not going to lie, I did purchase a couple V-Bucks. I did because I wanted to get this Marvel skin. So like your character, you can get skins for it. So I got a Marvel one. So I was was just you know getting down with the kids i need to be cool in front of my nephews but yeah they're like like coins but you can buy like packages so you can buy like 10 000 v books and then you purchase

whatever you want but they do all this like mad building and i'm like i'm just attacking people i was like yeah i'm not up there yet on that but the kids are so good video of a class on it but it's the same like when you said about the electric quad they've got so much at the field for anyone listening you all know my background is horses so back at the stables in sheffield the kids have got every electric toy you could possibly think of so albie is now obsessed with diggers like tractors diggers i think we actually have to delve into our mums because they just... What a pair.

Honestly, together, together, it's like... I could ring my mum and she'd be like, hang on a minute, Nick's ringing. Yeah. All right, see you later then. I spoke to Lulu earlier. They'll know everything without even us talking to them. Honestly.

They are funny though. Yeah, they are funny. I love their chats that they have like our World Cup group chat with us two and them two. Best World Cup family

it would call. And there's a picture of them two together. Brilliant. I can get that up actually. Let me show you the picture of him. Aww.

For anyone that doesn't know, this is my mum Nicola and that's Rachel's mum. We call her Lulu. She's Louise. Look at her. So cute. That was probably, like, let's, my mum,

like, let's talk about how many times at England home games she would get there three hours before the game. Something ridiculous, right? She'd set off to the game long before we would set off. Yeah. And what did she do? Every game? Wave at the bus.

She'd be like, she used to text us both and be like, I'm outside the bus, wave to me, I'm on the left-hand side. And we'd be like, Lulu, can you see us?

It was like a running thing forever at the back of the bus, wasn't it? Like, where's Lulu? Where's Lulu? Everyone would spot her. You'd find her,

wouldn't you? And you're like, there's all the fans there waving and my mum would just be there like... And you can always guarantee you're going to see your mum in the crowd waving. Yeah, I always look for my dad just because he's the biggest

and I can see him easily and he's got tattoos. So I'm like, there he is. There he is. Wherever the main man is, then my mum will be there. But also, for anyone listening, our mums know nothing, and I mean nothing, about football.

They probably think they do. They think they do. Actually, she might know the offside rule a little bit, but she thinks everything's a foul for us. She thinks I've had the best game every single week when sometimes I've had an absolute shitter. The referees aren't great, according to him. My favourite is sitting with your mum at a game.

I remember, I won't tell all the stories, but sitting at a game, I went to watch your game, an England game, when I'd retired. And honestly, I'd never sat with your mum before, because I'd obviously just been playing. Hilarious, let me tell you. It is literally one of my favourite hobbies.

Might get her a little GoPro, you know. Honestly. Maybe we'll experience that. People would love it. People would pay to watch that. But what I love so much is our family dynamics. We all get on so well doing like, your nephews know me as Auntie Rachel,

like this, send me voice notes. Hi, Auntie Rachel. You are Auntie Rachel. Like you are Auntie Rachel. like they send me voice notes. Hi, Auntie Rachel. You are Auntie Rachel. Like you are Auntie Rachel. Yeah, and I love that. And I think that's just such a, that's like my favourite thing. It's such a special bond. Like you could go into my house, my mum's house,

put your feet up on the sofa, have a cup of tea. Like when I went, I went round to your mum's not so long ago and just went, just showed up, went round and played with the boys and always get a big, nice, warm hug off your dad. That's my favourite. But I think that is just so important, isn't it? It's like having a double family. It's just so important.

A hundred percent. And it's when we are at tournaments and our families come together and we have off time and we'd be putting stuff in that chat and sending them everything that we've been doing. And it's just nice because I think beyond football, there's so much out there and we'll always have that no matter what. Like regardless of football, we'll always have that tight-knit

kind of family dynamics. And yeah, it's lovely. I see your mum as like my mum. What about the time when they're in the World Cup in 2019 in France and they just got stranded everyone would think right these two they've got so much to focus on football like they're in a major tournament but no not not us nope we're out at 2 a.m trying to book them a damn hotel because everyone is stranded me and rachel had to text i think it was phil at the time yeah sorry boss but we've got to

go out our families are stranded we need to get in my hotel we were just walking the streets of nice like trying to find them yeah like googling like sorry mate have you got any rooms available no okay next hotel down we go jesus christ i just thumbed a lift to them to be honest i remember walking across the front like front by the beach i'm thinking surely there's a hotel somewhere i can't really remember what happened i think they got a really like dodgy airbnb or something it was really bad the pictures looked amazing and they got there and like i wouldn't have stayed there to be honest like to be honest my dad would have been on the sunbed he would have got down on the beach he's not yeah i would have to be honest but but i think yeah not our mums not our mums not lulu and nick no but i think that is like a really good

thing to speak about because it's not like you say it's not always rainbows and butterflies like people think we're just like at the world cup again focusing on football but there's actually real life stuff that still happens and you can't just abandon them no you can't we wouldn't we wouldn't have been able to go to sleep knowing that they've got to sort that out. Absolutely not. It's quite nice to touch on that and for people to see that it isn't just like

you're just there enjoying your time at a World Cup. There's actually real stuff happening. I think you always worry about family no matter what when you're at a tournament because it's like, have you got your tickets sorted? Have you got your transport? And although they've got reps that they can go to, I still need to know that they're where they say they're going to be.

Otherwise, I'm worried. And even if you told them not to text you, it'd be like, Millie, I haven't got my tickets. Rachel, I've not got my tickets. Like, there's a rep for that. Yeah, this is your contact. Speak to the rep. Don't text me on game day.

Oh, I've got my ticket. Okay, brilliant. Glad've got my ticket okay brilliant glad you got your ticket get to the game get in yeah good luck where do I go again on that leaflet I sent you

is there any food on is it free drinks it's a great dynamic though we've had such good laughs so many funny things so many funny things yeah I love it honestly shout out to your family yeah crazy we are crazy the Brights are crazy Such good laughs. So many funny things. So many funny things. Yeah, I love it. Honestly.

Shout out to your family. Yeah, crazy. We are crazy. The Brights are crazy. You're supposed to say shout out to my family. Shout out to the Dailies. Sorry, I was just thinking of how nutty my family actually is. I love it.

I love it. Well, we've got plenty more family stories to tell, haven't we, Rach? Oh, there'll be millions. They'll come later down the line, but that is all for today. For the rest of this football, Daily Brightness, we are absolutely having the best time

making these episodes and we can't wait to tell you more. And of course, we'll be back on Thursday with another Q&A episode for you. Get in your questions. You can send them to dailybrightness at goldhanger.com or you can use the hashtag dailybrightness on your socials.

Have a week filled with absolute brightness, everybody. It's goodbye from me. And goodbye from me.