The Rest Is History - 328: Coronations: Sex, Holy Oil and Civil War

Episode Date: May 5, 2023

Whether it’s London descending into a riot, a bad hangover with Samuel Pepys, or a royal lacking discretion… Charles III will certainly be hoping that History does not repeat itself this weekend.�� In the second of our episodes on coronations, Tom and Dominic take a look at some of the bad behaviour that occurred at coronations in the past, and whether that serves as an omen for the monarch’s reign to come…  *The Rest Is History Live Tour 2023*: Tom and Dominic are back on tour this autumn! See them live in London, New Zealand, and Australia! Buy your tickets here: restishistorypod.com Twitter:  @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook Producer: Theo Young-Smith Executive Producers: Jack Davenport + Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thank you for listening to The Rest Is History. For weekly bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to series, and membership of our much-loved chat community, go to therestishistory.com and join the club. That is therestishistory.com. Now England, old England, still hold up thy head, who lately by popery long time hath been led, and let the Pope's actors that played all their pranks be gone in all haste or will cripple their shanks, for in heart, voice and loyalty Mary will be in the crowning of William and brave Queen Mary.

So they got up on horseback to Rome for to ride and God bless great William that turned the tide. He kicked those old mass mongers quite out of door with a downfall forever to Babylon's whore. And now Popa is banished, as all men can see, in the crowning of William and brave Queen Mary. So that, Tom Holland, is a splendid broadside ballad published in 1689 to celebrate the coronation of William III and Mary II. Was it by any chance written by a Protestant? I think it possibly was.

So that's in the aftermath of the Glorious Revolution when James II, our last Catholic king, was kicked out. The coronation oath that King Charles will be swearing at the weekend reflects the legacy of the Glorious Revolution. Tom, we think of coronations as timeless rituals, but as this reminds us, they are in fact reflections of changing political and religious passions. And of course, what you make of a given coronation, I suppose, that reflects who's writing the history, doesn't it? It absolutely does. And that is something that takes us, actually, Dominic, very conveniently,

you were talking about timeless coronations. So in the previous episode, we were talking about how you can trace the order of service that is going to be used on Saturday all the way back to the 10th century and the reign of Edgar. And this order of service was drawn up by St. Dunstan, the great Archbishop of Canterbury in the 10th century. But Dunstan featured in another coronation, and that was the coronation of Edgar's elder brother, Edwy. And Dunstan and Edwy did not get on at all. And the accounts that were written of Edwy's coronation seem to have been, well, if not written by Dunstan himself, then certainly by fans of Dunstan. So this is the second canonical coronation, is it? So Edgar was the first and this is number two, is that right?

No, Edwy is before. So Edwy is the elder brother brother oh right sorry i'm all i'm completely out of kilter so edward is crowned in kingston upon thames in 956 so that's almost 20 years before ed was later coronation in bath and according to the uh biography of dunstan he behaves very very badly so he's been crowned yeah and instead And instead of hanging around and, you know, doing what a king should do after coronation. Shaking hands. Lovely service, Vicar. Yeah, exactly.

He goes off and has a threesome. Oh, no, Tom. Who with? With a very well-born lady and her adult daughter is the... A mother and daughter threesome. A mother and daughter threesome. And the story is that he goes off and there's much embarrassment.

And so Dunstan and his relative, who's the Bishop of Lichfield, are the only ones brave enough to go and find out what's happened. And they go in and apparently Edwige has thrown the crown off. And this is actually the first mention of a crown in English history.

Oh, how embarrassing for England. Yeah. And he's embarrassing for England. Yeah. And he's tossed it onto the ground. And meanwhile, according to the hagiographer, Edwige was disporting himself disgracefully between the two women as though they were wallowing in some revolting pigsty. Oh, my word. And Dunstan basically comes in and bollocks him and says, pull yourself together and kind of hauls Edwige off. If that happens at the weekend i will be astounded so but but the likelihood is is that this is pro dunstan and edgar

propaganda because almost certainly the adult daughter is the woman who edwy actually married of gifu who is his wife so it seems harsh and a reminder of the fact that the kind of the the harsh stories that can be told of coronations do often reflect a bias and often can be back projected as well. So there's a third coronation that Dunstan was involved in, which is the coronation of Edgar's son, Æthelred, who comes to be called Æthelred the Unready. Notoriously a terrible reign. Dunstan prayed that Ethelred be given the faithfulness of Abraham, the meekness of Moses, the courage of Joshua, the humility of David, and the wisdom of Solomon, none of which he particularly seems to have displayed. It was kind of presaged that Ethelred would be terrible because when Dunstan baptized him, Ethelred pissed into the font. So this happens a lot in coronation stories. So when you get to the Stuarts, people say,

oh, there were dreadful omens about coronation. This such and such went wrong. But as we'll see, something goes wrong in most coronations. People don't turn up or they forget the crown or whatever. I mean, again, maybe when we come to look at Shakespeare and how Shakespeare looks at coronations, this idea that the fate of the king is joined to the fate of the country is still very strong by the late Tudor early Stuart period. So very important idea. So I suppose one thing with medieval coronations is that we actually don't know very much about most of them, do we? Because the sources are so scant. So the one that always sticks out in my mind, Tom, and you'll tell me whether this is an accurate description or not, is William I,

where basically everybody dies. William the Conqueror. Is that fair? Not everybody, but it doesn't go tremendously well because it's held in westminster abbey yeah you know the great abbey built by edward the confessor that we talked about in the first episode the king is hailed with kind of vivat you know long live the king the norman soldiers who are outside assume that a riot has broken outside in the abbey and for reasons that aren't entirely clear they respond to this by rushing around setting fire to the rest of london which which is quite quite odd behavior yeah and everybody sees you know that houses and shops are on fire so they all rush in and start looting it the whole thing is a disaster

yeah and what's interesting about this account it's so it's um by an english chronicler called alderic vitalis he notes that the monks and the bishops who are doing the coronation, they stay in the abbey, but they're kind of very nervous. And the other person who's very nervous is William, who trembles throughout the whole thing. But that's not surprising. He's in a foreign country. He's beaten King Harold at Hastings.

He's insecure, right? Which is why there are so many soldiers, guards there at all. But it's possible as well that he's trembling because he is nervous about whether God is truly blessing him, that maybe the disaster of the consecration is something that may reflect God's wrath. And that really matters to William because one of the reasons why he has so wanted to become King of England is that the consecration and anointing obviously raises him to a level almost equal to that of the King of France. And so a century later, a canon lawyer writing in Bologna will note that properly

only four kings are anointed at their coronation. So the King of France, King of Jerusalem, King of Sicily, and King of England. And so that is what William is after. And his coronation, to the degree that we can tell, is, I mean, it's drawing on the kind of the Anglo-Saxon rituals that's important because he has to establish his legitimacy as an English king, but it's also very kind of imperial. So he's crowned on Christmas day as Charlemagne had been crowned. His crown is inspired by Byzantine examples. So you remember those kind of dinky little crowns the Byzantine emperors have with the pearls that kind of hang down by their cheeks. And the order

of service is read in French as well as in English. So for William, the coronation is setting the seal on his great victory. And therefore, the fact that it doesn't go tremendously well, you can understand why it would be a cause of anxiety to him. Yes, absolutely. We don't know much about the coronations of William I's successors or some of the Plantagenets, but there's a slight sense of downplaying coronations at this point. Well, so this is by the papacy. Going into the 11th century, this is the period of the Gregorian revolution when the papacy and the church more generally is trying to stop kings from identifying themselves with a kind of sacral role. They're trying to get rid of the idea that a king might have a priestly status. Priests are priests, secular rulers are secular

rulers, and the division between them must be very secure. And so this is a period when the church starts trying to stop kings from being anointed with chrism, which is this kind of awesome oil which can supposedly calm the sea and make fields fertile. And they start kind of proclaiming kings that they're kings by the grace of God, which is therefore to kind of heighten the role that is played by the bishop or by the archbishop. So it emphasises the role played by the church in all this. Kings by and large go with this chiefly because they're kind of forced to. So Henry II, who at his coronation had insisted in being proclaimed in very, very grandiose terms,

then blots his copy book by having Thomas Becket killed. And so essentially has to kind of see terms. Henry II's sons, Richard I and John, both have calamitous coronations. Oh no, what happens? Well, so Richard I's coronation, there's another riot because there are Jews in the audience outside Westminster Abbey and they try to come in and this precipitates a massive riot. And once again all the houses of London get set on fire.

So there's no kind of multi-faith stuff with Richard I. And John disgraces himself by laughing throughout the entire coronation. Laughing out of nerves? Who knows? I mean, that's the story. A sort of Kendall Roy figure. Yeah, very much Kendall Roy, yes. Yes.

And again, probably a back projection. People looking at his disastrous reign and saying it was kind of presage. Right. One of the things that's really striking about the relationship of kings to their coronation is that it's often the kings who are in the weakest position, who are understandably keenest on making the coronation as grand and imposing as possible. So John's reign is so disastrous that he ends up losing all the crown jewels in the wash. And then he dies, leaving his son, Henry, who was only nine

years old when he becomes king. And he can't go and be crowned in Westminster Abbey because it's occupied by the French, who have sent over the Dauphin Louis to become king. And for a while, it looks as though abey of Gloucester that will in due course become the Cathedral of Gloucester. And because John has lost all the crown jewels, Henry III has to be crowned with his mother's crown. Oh my word. So in every respect, this is not a great coronation. It's not a great coronation. And Henry is so upset by this that he asked for a papal dispensation when in due course the whole of England has been recaptured and he is undisputed king of England. He asked for a special papal dispensation to be crowned and anointed again in Westminster Abbey. So he had two coronations?

He had two coronations, yeah. A bit like Charles II had, as we'll discover, he had two coronations, didn't he? The first three Stuarts, they're the kings of Scotland as well as England, and so they're crowned in Scotland as well as England. This is slightly different because by and large, you can't have two anointings because the anointing is so, I mean, it's so freighted with holiness that you can't do it twice. But Henry does get this special dispensation. And having been crowned in Westminster Abbey, he then redevelops it. So it's Henry III who basically builds the Abbey as it stands now and is clearly very keen that he have a stage commensurate with the grandeur of his position, having been so close to total ruin.

So after Henry III, pretty much all his successes, I think I'm right in saying with it, just a couple of exceptions are crowned in Westminster Abbey, aren't they? Right. So Edward V, who's one of the princes in the Tower, he doesn't because he gets killed. Yes. they? Right. So Edward V, who's one of the princes in the tower, he doesn't because he gets killed. And Edward VIII doesn't because he abdicates before he becomes king, but all the others get crowned in Westminster Abbey. But what happens with, for example, so Richard II, he's a Plantagenet, but he's booted out by Henry IV, who is a usurper. So presumably his coronation is a pretty big deal for him because he needs to assert his legitimacy. They start to invent various stories that kind of serve to leverage the awesome quality of the ritual that is being performed at the coronation. So Henry IV is anointed with an oil that supposedly, well, it's the subject of a prophecy by Thomas Beckett, the martyred Archbishop of Canterbury.

Who I played on stage. Yes. The Virgin Mary had appeared to him while he was in exile, kind of hiding from Henry II, and presented him with this eagle, eagle made of gold. And inside there was a stone flask and it was filled with this incredibly holy oil. And the Virgin told Thomas that at some future point, this oil would be used for a wonderful new king who would be coming. This is the oil that is used in the coronation of Henry IV. So it's this idea that Henry IV isn't a usurper at all. He is the fulfillment of a prophecy by Aragorn or something. Right. Because if he's got this fancy oil, that's definitely a sign that he's legitimate. And then with Henry V, this story gets kind of

elaborated and it gets said that, furthermore, the king who will be anointed with this holy oil of St. Thomas will go on to reconquer Normandy and Aquitaine, which is what Henry V then goes on to do. So fancy that. Who would have thought that? So this story is definitely true. I mean, undoubtedly. So I think you can absolutely see there that kings who feel that the foundations of their power are unstable really enjoy beefing up coronation rituals and stories to try and solidify their sense of legitimacy. But then what do you do, Tom, when you have a king who can't even speak? So Henry VI, who succeeds Henry V in 1422, he is 10 months old. How do they crown him? Yeah, well, and adding to that problem is the fact that things start to go quite badly in France. So Henry VI is the son of Henry V and the daughter of Charles VI of France. And Henry V and Charles VI both die

in 1422, which means that by virtue of the treaty that Henry V and Charles VI had signed, Henry VI is king by right of both England and France. But Charles VI has a son, the Dauphin, Charles VII, who has been delegitimized. But a lot of people in France want him to be king. And famously among the people who want him to be king is Joan of Arc. And so she leads him deep into enemy territory, crowns him in the traditional site of coronations in France, and then kind of takes him back to continue the fight. And that means that the English government in France obviously needs to trump this in an urgent manner. And so they get the very young Henry VI, who by this point must be what, about six, I think, maybe eight. I mean, he's still a very young boy.

Or even seven. he crosses over to France. He hangs out in France for a fair amount of time. And then at the end of 1431, he basically gets smuggled into Paris, gets crowned in Notre Dame, and hurrah, hurrah, he's the king of France. So a French coronation held by an English king. Yes. Surrounded presumably by English soldiers. And also crowned by his great uncle, who is a cardinal, but very English. Right. And so that doesn't go down well. And what ultimately blots Henry VI's copybook is that the feast that is held to celebrate his coronation, all the French complain about the quality of English cooking, which is...

Oh my gosh. It's terrible that nationalistic prejudice can come into things like this, isn't it, Tom? So Henry VI is the only king to have been formally crowned and anointed as king, both of France and of England, in two separate and distinct ceremonies. And his reign goes on to be absolutely disastrous. So it kind of precipitates the Wars of the Roses. You have Yorkists and Lancastrians and Lancastrians and Yorkists all busily succeeding each other. Again, you see this process whereby it's usurpers who have to emphasize in their coronations just how potent a ritual is being staged. So when Henry VII, the first Tudors, defeats Richard III at Bosworth, the last Yorkist king,

and he goes to London and he meets with his mother, Lady Margaret Beaufort, for the first time in 14 years at his coronation. So it must have been a very emotional occasion for them all. A very high pressure occasion, yeah. According to the Bishop of Rochester, who was her confessor, when she saw Henry being crowned, when the king was crowned in all that great triumph and glory, she wept marvelously. But she might also have been very impressed by the crown that Henry chooses to be crowned with, which is an imperial crown. And an imperial crown, Dominic, is the kind of crown that has arches that go up from the coronet and an orb on the top. And these are called imperial crowns because these arches are symbolic of a rule of an empire. So you're enclosing all the world.

Enclosing all the world and mounted by the orb, which symbolizes the world. So it's Henry VII who has himself crowned imperially. But of course, it's his son, Henry VIII, who initiates the Reformation and declares England an empire. Yeah. and declares England an empire. The Pope has no jurisdiction over England, who sets the monarchy, the country, and the coronation ritual on a kind of slalom ride, a rollercoaster ride, what I might say. Slalom ride. Kind of veering all over the place, ideologically.

Those are two very different things, a rollercoaster and a slalom. You know what I mean. Okay. I do know what you mean. Well, Henry VIII's coronation would just do that because it's the last pre-Reformation coronation, isn't it? So that's 1509. We do have descriptions of that. So the closer we get in time to the present day, the more lavish the descriptions of coronation. So we know that Henry VIII, so he's married Catherine of Aragon. He's decided to marry her just beforehand because he needs a bride straight away. So it's the coronation of the two of them. With all these coronations, they have this great parade

through the streets of London on one day, and then the coronation is on the next. And it's a kind of doubleheader for the spectators. Actually, it's the parade and the procession and the pageants and the stalls and the plays and the songs and all that stuff. The mumming, exactly. It's just as exciting. The tremendous robes and all of this sort of stuff.

They have it on a midsummer Sunday, the actual coronation. So it's perfectly timed. And he's very much a Renaissance prince at that point, isn't he? Dashing and slim and playing the lute and jousting.

Exactly. So Margaret Beaufort is still there. So that's his grandmother. And she's there, you know, wiping her eyes. Obviously, everything's gone tremendously well for the Tudors. we know the oath that he swears with goodwill and devout soul I promise I shall keep privilege of the law canon and of holy church and I shall by God's grace defend

you and each one of you bishops and abbots through my realm blah blah blah well that turned out well didn't it well exactly the nice irony there but that's going back to what you were saying in our first podcast about the importance of the oath and the idea of the king as the servant of his people. Then they leave, Henry and Catherine, they go and have this tremendous banquet and they have festivities for days. And we've got a nice little moment which anticipates so many moments to come. People are very excited and they go and they tear up the carpet.

So there's a huge scarlet runner kind of carpet and people go and rip out bits of the carpet as souvenirs. Nice. I was wondering why they were ripping the carpet up, but that makes perfect sense.

I don't know whether any of those bits still survive. One last thing about Henry VIII. Henry VIII also does something very unusual. He has Anne Boleyn crowned in 1533. Why is that unusual? I thought queens were being crowned. Yeah, but normally you don't then marry a queen later on. Oh, I see. Of course. Yes. So

she's crowned separately. Yes. So she has a separate coronation. Now that doesn't normally happen. She has a separate coronation presided over by Thomas Cranmer. So the reformation is now underway, the break with Rome. With hilarious consequences. Well, not hilarious for Anne Boleyn, because unlike with Catherine of Aragon, where everyone was delighted to see Catherine of Aragon, they're very displeased to see Anne Boleyn. And she complains to Henry afterwards and says, Nobody cheered.

No, not enough cheers. And we all know what happened to her, Tom. Nothing good. Nothing good. So let's come back after the break and do more Tudor coronations. Then we get into the Stuarts and it all really starts to kick off. Brilliant. Look forward to that.

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If you want ad-free listening, bonus episodes and early access to live tickets, head to therestisentertainment.com. That's therestisentertainment.com. Hello, welcome back to our coronation-themed romp through centuries of English history. And we have reached the 16th century, the Tudors, and more specifically, the Reformation, which is all about kicking out popery and superstition and idolatry and nonsense and ritual and all that kind of thing, as

Protestants would put it. I suppose one of the things that's interesting about when Edward VIII dies and is succeeded by his very young son, Edward VI, is that nobody thinks, well, should we get rid of the coronation? Isn't the coronation with all its anointings and its bowing before the altar and things, isn't this all just kind of papist mummery? No, they don't think that, do they? Well, I suppose you have to have some form of inauguration of the new monarch, don't you? But there are, absolutely, there are Protestants, radical Protestants, who argue that it's all idolatry and clearly standing at the head of a tradition that is still very much alive today, which would absolutely say, well,

should we be spending money on coronations when we can give it to the poor? And isn't this all just nonsense? You know my views of that, Tom. Well, Edward VI has a slimmed-down coronation, to be fair. Not quite Scandinavian bicycling monarchy, but... Well, they're worried, aren't they, that he'll get too tired? that tom um well hedward the sixth has a slim down coronation to be fair not quite scandinavian bicycling monarchy but well they're worried aren't they that he'll get too tired but he's any what is he nine they admit themselves at this point it's the first time i think you can find somebody

admitting that coronation actually can be quite boring yeah well richard the second who was also young when he got ground he fell asleep in his right so they say because of the tedious length which would weary and be hurtsome to the king's majesty being yet of tender age, they should cut it down from 12 hours to seven hours. Imagine that, a 12 hour. by a man from the nation of Aragon, an acrobat, who slides down a tightrope from the steeple of St. Paul's Cathedral as swiftly as if he had been a bird. Oh, we were talking about roller coasters. I'd like to see more acrobatics at the King's Coronation. And this is the backdrop to Mark Twain's novel,

The Prince and the Paupers. Tom Carty, is that the name of the character? Tom Canty. Where the pauper and the prince and the prince they kind of look alike and swap places yeah they do indeed but of course what would fascinate you about this tom is that it's the first protestant coronation yes so they get rid of lots of sort of rituals and stuff like that there's lots of talk of idolatry and tyranny and superstition. But, I mean, Edward is laid on the altar for his anointing and Cranmer anoints him on the back

and he takes the oath on the sacrament. So there's still kind of hangovers. But doesn't Cranmer say to him, you're God's vice regents and Christ's vicar. So you're the big man. Yes. And there's a strong implication that, well, it's not an implication.

I mean, it's stated that the anointing is not to sacralize the young king. It's not to kind of make him, you know, to dignify him, give him a new dignity that he wouldn't otherwise have. It's just something that's done to him because he already has this power by virtue of descent. Oh, that's interesting. It's a kind of subtle shift. So essentially, it's about the focus of the ritual is changed from the idea of a king as a kind of priestly figure to king as absolutely a royal figure. So in his sermon, Cranmer says, Edward is a second Josiah. I'm ashamed to admit I don't really know what Josiah did.

So Josiah is the young king who overthrows idols. All right, there you go. Because he says, we look forward to you having the tyranny of the bishops of Rome banished from your subjects and images removed. Yes. Which, of course, then happens, doesn't it? So again, I mean, that's an example of how kings in Christian Europe look to Old Testament kings for exemplars.

But of course, Edward doesn't last very long. So in 1553, we have the coronation of Mary, his sister. And now it's a complete turnabout because she is, of course, a Catholic. So she has the sermon. This is given by the Bishop of Chichester, an anchor, George Day. And he had been in prison under Edward VI. He had been in prison for arguing about altars and prayer books. He'd been in the fleet prison.

Mary lets him out. The Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Cranmer, by contrast, is in prison. And will shortly be in a fire. Yes. Will shortly be burned. Exactly. So Mary is anointed not by the Archbishop of Canterbury, but by the Bishop of Winchester. He's a guy called Stephen Gardner, who is the villain in all Tudor dramas.

Yes. Isn't he? Because he's sort of quite a Weasley. Well, unless they're written by Catholics. He's always been played by people like Mark Gatiss and things. Yes. Sort of smooth and sinister. Smooth, plausible, and villainous.

But there's an issue with oil at Mary's, because the oil that they've got left over from Edward VI, they regard as Protestant oil and therefore not fit for consumption. So they have to order some oil specially. The imperial ambassador orders some oil from the Bishop of Arras. And there was also a big hullabaloo about celebrating mass. It's the absolute centre part of Mary's coronation. Well, it's interesting about the oil, because when in Ducal's Mary dies and gets succeeded by her

sister Elizabeth, who is the daughter of Anne Boleyn and a Protestant, the oil that's used for her is rancid. It's gone off. rancid oil yeah but what is the oil tom this is the key question it's not olive oil obviously surely uh yeah so one of them is under the tudors okay and pulai they are called so they're kind of anointing vessels um so one is full of pure oil and the other is full of chrism which is kind of mixture of olive oil and kind of various elements. What are the elements? Sort of spices or something? Yeah.

Balm, I think it is. Balms of various kinds. Balms of various kinds. Right. But then in the Stuarts, they mix them together. They kind of create a holy oil cocktail. A metaphor there for the Stuart kingdoms, Tom. Yes, absolutely.

So going back to Elizabeth, I mean, Elizabethabeth also has a the real deal is not so much in some ways the coronation we'll just talk about that in a second but but the processions the day before because they are so stage managed aren't they huge crowds i mean obviously with all the tudors and the stewards because of all the religious ructions and the political kind of controversies of the day it's really important for the regime to assert its legitimacy and to do so in this very, very public, spectacular way. So Elizabeth, for example, she has, I think, there are five pageants that she goes past. So the first one is all about her Englishness, comparing her with her sister's supposed Spanishness. So it harks back to the Wars of

the Roses and has a sort of tableau of her descent. The second one shows her the four virtues of true religion, love of subjects, wisdom and justice. And true religion is symbolized by the Bible, isn't it? By the Protestant religion, exactly. They're trampling on superstition and ignorance. And as you say, at one point there's a figure of truth carrying a Bible written in English. And actually truth presents the Bible to Elizabeth as she passes, and she kisses it, and all the crowd cheer and say, you know, hurrah for the true faith, all this kind of thing.

Throwing their caps in the air. Throwing their caps in the air, as presumably they've been paid to do. I mean, that's the thing with all these. I mean, the interesting thing, contrasting that with the coronation, is that we don't know very much about the coronation. And there's some confusion as to exactly what the status of Catholic rituals, what's going on there. So there is a mass is held. So it's the last mass that is held at a coronation.

It's the last one in Latin. Yeah, for a while anyway. Until George I comes. Yeah. Yeah. But Elizabeth is saying that there is a mass, but she didn't participate in it. And so there's a general sense of muddle and confusion. And so I've read several scholars who suggest that this confusion was kind of deliberate, that she hasn't yet entirely worked out how she's going to fuse

the various elements. Because basically, it's kind of the Church of England will end up looking Catholic, and its doctrines will be Protestant. Yes, I suppose that's... Being very, very reductive. The Elizabethan settlement is a muddle, isn't it? Yeah. And that the coronation is awkward for Elizabeth. You know, she knows that whatever she does, she'll be sending out signals. And it may be that at that point, she's not yet ready to send out signals. And so a veil is discreetly drawn over it, and people are encouraged not to write about it.

And instead, it is actually the procession that matters. That's where the messages are going out, which in turn would suggest that the key thing for Elizabeth is less what's going on in the Abbey than what's happening on the streets. Yeah. And her Englishness, I think, is the fact that the first of those pageants is about her descent from Elizabeth of York and Henry VII, Henry Tudor, the people who ended the Wars of the Roses and brought national unity and all this sort of thing.

And she has no Spanish blood. And that's also really important that they're sort of heavily emphasising her kind of native-born Englishness. Yeah, so in 1561, she tells the Scottish ambassador, the Mary Queen of Scots ambassador, and shows him her finger on it. It's the coronation ring that had been given to her at the ritual by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

And she's still wearing it. And she says that I am already married to the realm of England when I was crowned with this ring, which I wear continuously in token thereof. So before we come to another Scott, James I or James VI of Scotland, obviously Shakespeare has a fair bit to say about anointing and balms and oils and all this, doesn't he? Absolutely. So we're talking about how the coronation ritual under Elizabeth is, the look of it is Catholic, the doctrine of it is becoming Protestant. What, therefore, is the role of the coronation? What is the role of the anointing? Does it make a king or a queen someone holy, or does it not? Shakespeare's history plays relentlessly explore that issue. Shakespeare writes a play about Richard II who gets deposed by Henry IV and has probably the most famous expression of this idea that an anointing transfigures the person to whom it's done. So not all the waters in the rough road sea, Richard II says, can wash the balm off an anointed king. But of course, Richard II does end up deposed. And in fact, at one point when the

Earl of Essex is staging his rebellion and he pays for Richard II to be staged, Elizabeth says, I am Richard II, no, you're not that. So she's very alert to the kind of political implications of these historical stories and the way that Shakespeare is framing it. But of course, Shakespeare is absolutely still alert to this idea that a king or queen who is anointed, thereby, in a way, his or her fate will determine the fate of the kingdom. So whether that's in Richard II, where all kinds of terrible things are reported, or Macbeth, or whatever, that idea is really fundamental. But at the same time, you're getting the idea that is actually expressed by henry the fifth in the play named

after him that you know that all the crown and the mace and the whatever the robes and the swords and the scepters and things are really nothing that what matters is the man within yeah because he calls it the farcid title running for the king so in other words this is all flummery this is all wallpaper and just spin and nonsense and And actually what matters is the character. Yeah. And so that is a division. Does an anointing make a king holy, or is it the character of a king? And is all the anointing simply the window dressing? Well, see, what's fascinating to me about this, Tom, and actually what reading about this brought home was we know that all these people, they have their reigns.

We know the story. What it really reinforces is for so much of this period, how insecure they all are. Even Elizabeth I, there's been Tudors before her, but the Tudor dynasty are not that old. And she's still, there's that insecurity, there's the anxiety, there's the need for massive security often massive spectacles you know the propaganda all that and is it doesn't that shed a kind of interesting light on the 17th century in a way that i'd never thought of before that the course the two extremes that you come to have in the 17th century are the divine right of kings that kings are absolutely appointed by god that they have a sacral status that is greater than that of

bishops even, or that there should be no king at all and there should be a republic. And those are the twin poles around which so much happens in the 17th century. When James I comes down in 1603, James VI of Scotland, so he's been crowned already,ive security. So we know that he pays 500 soldiers, they're paid eight pence a day to guard against tumults and disorder in Westminster. Because of course, there's a lot of anxiety. How will the English crowds put up with, admittedly a Protestant, admittedly of royal blood, but a Scottish king? So he's come south with his wife, Anne of Denmark. Right from the beginning beginning there's a degree of sort of trouble and disappointment because there's an outbreak of plague in london so the

procession is hugely cut down and they tell spectators do you know do social distancing which people obviously ignore because that's as people so often do they make a special new translation of the liber regardless that thing that you were talking about that the order of service episode yeah and they take out a lot of the tudor stuff and they take out anything that they think is contrary to church of england doctrine so anything that is too catholic they translate it into english although the oath he still makes the coronation oath he makes in latin and english, interestingly, this surprised me, in French, because he is still technically King of France. King of France, yeah. So he makes it in French.

Massive crowds, despite the fact it's raining. Obviously, he's reunited with the Stone of Destiny, which is a nice moment. Nice for him, yeah. Yeah, it's lovely. But there's trouble with his wife, Anne of Denmark. She's Catholic, isn't she? So she had originally been Lutheran, and then clearly exposure to the Scots drove her to the opposite extreme. Because then she seems to have secretly become a Catholic. Even the Pope himself said, it's very hard to work out what game she's playing, is she Catholic or not? But she refuses

to take communion. And she's the first of three queens that do that. So Henrietta Maria, who then marries Charles I, and Catherine of Braganza, who marries Charles II, all Catholic, all refuse to have anything to do with the coronation ritual. In 1626, so when Charles I takes over, now Charles I needs less security than James I. James I, there have been plots and all sorts of gunpowder plots, but he's got away with it. He's got through and died peacefully in his bed. Charles I takes over, a general sense of sort of, you know, there's rejoicing and there's all this sort of stuff. But Henrietta Maria, who he's just married, he thinks they'll have a joint coronation as kings and queens usually do. But Henrietta Maria refuses to go. She watches because she's a strict Catholic.

She says, I'm not doing any of this Protestant nonsense. So she just watches, apparently, from a window while he is crowned. Well, she wouldn't want anything to do with heresy, would she? So we were talking about omens. They're all stories now told about Charles I's coronation. And do these date to after 1649? Of course. Yeah, I found them in a Victorian book.

So there's some sort of golden dove that is part of the regalia. Very sinister. And a wing breaks off and falls to the floor with a clatter. The dove from above. I read you this Victorian book. It says, the Bishop of Carlisle, Richard Sennhouse, made an inexcusable blunder, Tom. Oh, no. He took as the text of his coronation sermon,

be thou faithful unto death and I will give thee a crown of life. See, I don't see that as an inexcusable blunder, because I don't really know what that means. But anyway. He'll be martyred. Presumably this was an anticipation of martyrdom. But also the thing, Charles was later regarded to have worn the wrong clothes. So he turned up in a suit of white satin.

And, of course, he wears a white shirt on the day of his execution when it is also snowing and very cold so eagle-eyed observers said could see that no good would come no good would come of this white suit now we're about to uh go on to try saying but before we do that cromwell has a kind of coronation doesn't he he does. We said in the previous episode that he becomes Lord Protector sitting on the throne, the throne of St. Edward over the Stone of Scone. So I dug this out.

It's his second investiture in 1657 is the really big one. The first one is a bit of a sort of, they do it in a cupboard or something. Yeah, hugger mugger. Yeah. The second one, he's been offered the crown and he said no. Reluctantly. But they say, well, we'll have a coronation anyway. You know, who cares?

So they have a big ceremony in Westminster Hall. He wears velvet robes, ermine. There's a big sword. There's a scepter. The spectator hands all this stuff over to him, the Bible, the scepter, and the robe and the sword. He swears an oath. I do in the presence and by the name of god almighty promise and swear that to the uttermost of my power i will uphold

and maintain the true reformed protestant christian religion blah blah blah blah and to my power i was chief magistrate of these three nations uphold the maintenance and preservation of the peace and safety and the rights and privileges of the people. So in other words, he's got an oath that looks very like a coronation oath. And when it's all done, there's heralds, there's trumpets, and they say, His Highness Oliver Cromwell, protector of England. And the crowds outside, again, almost certainly money has changed hands or K-bonds or whatever people are being bribed with. They shout, long live his highness,

long live his highness, huzzah, huzzah, huzzah. I would definitely say huzzah. You know my views on the Lord Protector, Tom. Yeah. And would you wear a cap and throw it at the air? Undoubtedly. And then I would go and rip off a bit of the carpet as a souvenir, I think, just to improper. And start a riot. Exactly. Start setting fire to things. Exactly. But meanwhile, of course, there is a king, a real king. So Charles II had been crowned in Scotland, hadn't he? On New Year's Day, 1651.

At Scone, a traditional place. So he's had one coronation already. He comes back in 1660, and then he's finally crowned in April 1661. Do you know what the Bishop of Winchester, how the Bishop of Winchester described Charles at his coronation? The new King John. A barrel of laughs. As a figure like Christ.

Really? Who had risen from the dead. You amaze me. But I mean, Charles II, the comparisons between him and Jesus aren't obvious. Well, Charles II's coronation, Tom, not inappropriately for the restoration, is attended by some quite bad behavior. So Samuel Pepys writes an absolutely splendid description of going to Charles II's coronation. He goes to the abbey and he says, the king in his robes, bareheaded, it was very fine. Pepys says there's all sorts of rituals and ceremonies, but in very amusing Pepys way,

he says, I couldn't actually see them because the crowd was too thick and I couldn't see over all the partitions and stuff. So that's very disappointing. Peeps hears a big shout. Interestingly, a good sign of his political talents. At the coronation, Charles II has his Lord Chancellor read out a general pardon to people for their behavior in the Civil War. So he's got one eye on conciliating the disagreements. People throw medals around. Why are they doing that they're gifts you know throwing out little silver

coins it was a bit dangerous peeps is disappointed because he doesn't get any himself so again he's missed out the music strikes up peeps says so great a noise that i could make but little of the music and indeed it was lost to everybody and then says, but I had so great a lust to piss that I went out a little while before the king had done all his ceremonies. So Peeves has missed almost everything. That's a tradition, isn't it? Of people who attend coronations being advised not to drink. Because if it's going to be 12 hours or even seven hours.

So then Peeves goes to the banquets. And this I had not realized until delving into this subject. They would always have the banquet at Westminster Hall hall but there would be thousands of spectators who were behind rails watching everybody have the feast so peeps is one of the spectators and he sees somebody who knows who gives him some bread and then somebody else who you know some of the bigwig gives him a bit of rabbit so he has a sort of sandwich with some friends a little snack i wouldn't watch other people have a bank i I mean, watch Prince Harry have a... Tom, you know perfectly well that it's quite hard to persuade me to leave my house to go

for a dinner, which I'm actually going to eat, let alone one in which I'm going to watch other people eating. Yeah, I do. So then they all go, he goes off with his wife and what he describes characteristically is a pretty lady, a doctor's wife and various other people. And they go out drinking and stuff. And he says, it's strange to think that these two days have held up fair till now that all is done and the king gone out of the

hall and then it fell a raining and thundering and lightning which people did take great notice of and they said it was god's blessing of the work of these two days and he says it's a foolery to take too much notice of these things so peep says skeptical spirit of the royal society exactly these are mugs however peeps then disgraced himself tommy hasn't finished his wife goes off to bed he goes out with some gallants and they drink the king's health so this is coronation evening and then he says um we did this and nothing else till one of the gentlemen fell down stark drunk and lay there spewing peeps goes to bed with one of these blokes. But not the one he's vomited.

No, a different one. That'd be horrid. And then Peeps says, but then my head began to hum and I to vomit. And if ever I was foxed, it was now, because I fell asleep and slept till morning. Only when I waked, I found myself wet with my spewing. Thus did the day end with joy everywhere. It's interesting because Pepys was very sympathetic to the Commonwealth,

wasn't he? So he's kind of jumped ship. Pepys is a bit of a trimmer though, isn't he? I mean, that's one of the nice things about Pepys. Right. And so talking of trimming, Charles II is followed by his brother, James II, who is Catholic. Yes.

He has two coronations. It's a secret coronation. A private one. Yeah. The Catholic one. And then he has the one in Westminster Abbey. Yes. And his reign goes horribly wrong

and he gets replaced by his daughter and her husband, William and Mary. That's right. I will say one thing about James II's coronation though, Tom. We have the most amazing description of it by a guy called Francis Sanford, whose book I think is in the British Library. And he has that list that's been circulating on Twitter in the last week or so with everything that people ate. So there's hundreds and hundreds of dishes, crayfish,

fricassees, ragouts. Ragouts? Well, you can tell he's a rotter. Exactly. And going to end up going to France. Frenchified. Pure absolutism. Absolutely. So if you've listened to our podcast on the roast beef of old England, you will know that the Rest is History podcast is not a friend of the ragout or the fricassee.

Well, no, I am. Well, Tom is because of his Frenchified Holland house, Wiggish Ways. Yes, but you with your russet coat. Yeah, precisely. I'm very much team 1657. Team K-pop. Right. So, yeah, James is kicked out.

And now his daughter, Mary, is going to be crowned along with William III. And so this is what you opened with. Yeah. The episode. The Broadside Ballad. The crowning of William and brave Queen Mary. This is an unusual one because they are joint monarchs, which England has never had. Right.

So that question of whether it's 40 or 38 monarchs that have been crowned in Westminster Abbey depends on whether you include Harold Godwinson. Which you'd surely do. Well, there's no hard evidence though. That's never stopped us in the past, Tom. That's not us. I'm saying the canonical list. Okay. The list to get on the ruler. And whether you just bundle William and Mary in as one or whether they're crowned separately. And I think they are crowned separately. Yeah, because they have separate crowns. There's a great discussion about whether or not she will have Mary of modernness. Because a whole new set of regalia had to be made for Charles II because it was all smashed up in the interregnum, in the Carmel years. So is Mary II going to have Charles II's wife's crown or is a consort's crown not really good enough?

And actually, at first people say a consort's crown not really good enough and actually at first people say consort's crown is not good enough but they basically run out of time and money part because it's been the glorious revolution there's a real rush to have the coronation to establish their legitimacy so they say listen stop faffing around with the crowns just get on and crown them so she does have a basically a bit of a sort of a knock me down a bit of a pound shop crown yeah yeah it's very sad and this is the first one at which you get the coronation oath that is the glorious revolution revolutionary settlement coronation oath that basically charles iii will be inheriting this weekend that they have to defend um the protestant reformed religion

established by law exactly so that's still part of that's still part of the deal so that broadside ballad that i read out to the beginning i mean that spirit is enshrined in law to this day kicking out yeah opry all that sort of stuff and of course when william and mary get succeeded by anne mary's sister yes and then she dies without issue because she's just been having rabbits as people remember who've seen what's that that film called? Oh, The Favourite. The Favourite. Anne, poor old Anne. I know, poor old Anne. Anne is 37 when she's crowned, 1702.

She couldn't walk there, could she? She's so large. So portly. She has to be... Carried in a litter. She has to be carried into the coronation. She's wearing a wig and false curls made by Mrs. Ducayla. We know from her account books, a petticoat that costs 30 shillings from made by mrs banks nice and everyone says she

looks splendid lots of jewels lots of gold all this sort of stuff a special crown flaming with diamonds apparently great they think about anne i mean some people like to think of anne as you know a very important political player wigs and to. I know you like Anne because of the king's evil. Yes. So that becomes a marker of the sacral status of a monarch, is that they can cure scrofula. They have supernatural powers. They touch you and then... Which is a result of being anointed. Right. So there's still, for a defender of the Protestant reform religion established by law, the idea that you get anointed and then go around curing people of scrofula doesn't entirely gel with that.

And one of the people that she's meant to have cured is the young, the future Dr. Johnson. When he was two, I think. So you would be given a coin called a touch piece, a special souvenir, better than a piece of carpet. Also better than a medal. And he wore it around his neck for the rest of his life. He was a very, very devout Tory Church of England man. Exactly, he was.

So because I knew you were interested in this, I thought this would never sustain an entire podcast, The King's Evil. So I'll find a fact to surprise Tom with. Okay, great. Who do you think touched more people than any other for The King's Evil? Charles II. Oh, have you been doing your own research? No, I knew that. Do you know how many people he touched for The King's Evil. Charles II. Have you been doing your own research? No, I knew that.

Do you know how many people he touched for the King's Evil? How many did he touch? 92,000. 92,000. Okay, I didn't know that. Not all at once. Wow. Were they all very pretty?

That was right. And women. Exactly. Exactly. Come here, my darling. Another 20-year-old actress with the King's Evil? Surely not. You've all got sc graph, you know.

Yeah, no, incredible. So it had not been a thing, but the Stuarts really went all in on it because it had only actually been quite a niche activity until the Stuarts. And then Charles II, I suppose you can absolutely understand why. He's been restored.

He's a bit insecure. Well, it's like we've been talking throughout this episode that it's the usurpers and the people who worry that the foundations of their regime aren't secure. Exactly. Who have to go all in with the sacral stuff. Exactly. So we've come to the end of the Stuarts. Tom, of all the coronations we've done so far, which would you most have liked to have been present at?

That's a very, very good question. Apparently, Richard II was brilliant. Really? He wore slippers that supposedly had been owned by Edward the Confessor. And there was a kind of general aura of sophistication and class. Okay. So maybe that one. What about you?

I think it's hard to beat the one we started with. The Edwy. The revolting pigsty behaviour. Goes off and has a threesome. Yeah, but you wouldn't get to see the threesome. No. Well, unless you went in with St. Dunstan. I can't imagine you

hanging out with saint dunstan i don't think he's put up with you for long really i mean no offense oh great thank you for that maybe i'll go with um i don't know i'd go in the oil of a cromwell one just so i could shout huzzah and throw my cap in the air and hurrah for the lord protector yeah wear my kind of russet coat of a of a yeoman all. Yeah. But then I'd turn my coat, obviously, in time to go drinking with heaps. Drink for King's health.

Wake up in the morning. Exactly. Right. So we will be back next time with some absolutely tremendous coronations. So the Georges, they're excellent coronations generally.

There's some very ludicrous behaviour at those. There's massive overspending. There's lots of things going wrong and things being dropped. And then we'll go right up to the coronation of our dear late queen in 1953. And we'll end with some suitable sentiments about the new Carolian age, I think. Will we, Tom? Looking forward to that?

I think so, yes. Why not? Why not? All right. So we shall see you next time. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. looking forward to that i think so yes why not why not all right so we shall see you next time bye bye bye thanks for listening to the rest is history for bonus episodes early access ad-free listening and access to our chat community please sign up at rest is history pod

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