The Rest Is History - 460. The Empress of the Apocalypse

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

In 972AD a princess of the Byzantine Empire was sent by her uncle, the Roman emperor in Constantinople, to marry the son of Otto the Great - Emperor of the Latin West. A tantalising and formidable fig...ure, Theophanu became a major player in one of the most tumultuous and mysterious periods of history. At the end of the 10th century, the world was still reeling  from the cataclysmic implosion of the Roman Empire. Into the vacuum it left, three great powers reared their heads: the Empire of Islam, the Byzantines, and a Latin West in which barbarian kingdoms tussled to build themselves up over the rubble of Rome. It was also a time in which women had never wielded greater power, from behind the throne and even, before it. Following the death of her father-in-law, therefore, Theophanu - as the anointed wife of an emperor - became an Imperatrix Augusta, and in this capacity carved out a mighty new role for herself. As Rome’s heir’s battled for supremacy, Theophanu, with her competence and sophistication, would fight to see her son named the final, and much mythologised Emperor of Rome. Would she succeed? Join Tom and Dominic as they discuss Theophanu: empress of the apocalypse. From clashing empires, warring queens, and lascivious Popes, to court politics and the invention of the fork; all in a time of armageddon.   EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/restishistory Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! *The Rest Is History LIVE in 2024* Tom and Dominic are back onstage this summer, at Hampton Court Palace in London! Buy your tickets here: therestishistory.com Twitter: @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook Producer: Theo Young-Smith Assistant Producer: Tabby Syrett Executive Producers: Jack Davenport + Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you for listening to The Rest Is History. For weekly bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to series, and membership of our much-loved chat community, go to therestishistory.com and join the club. That is therestishistory.com. I can't spell it right. So you just give a fake name, your cafe name, Julia. But the more you use it, the more it feels like you're in witness protection. Wait a minute. What kind of espresso drinks does Julia like anyway? Is it too late to change your latte order? But with an espresso machine by KitchenAid, you wouldn't be thinking any of this because you could have just made your espresso at home.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Shop now at KitchenAid.ca. In the year 972, a young girl of perhaps 12 or 13, adorned in the heavy robes of an authentic Byzantine princess, weighed down with gold and precious stones, and accompanied by an intimidating train of flunkies, treasure chests, and changes of wardrobe, set sail from Constantinople. Some weeks later, she arrived in Rome. Her name was Theophanu, and Otto the Great, the Emperor of the West, was dazzled by her. He had wanted a princess for his son, and now he had one.
Starting point is 00:01:31 The marriage contract inscribed on parchment painted to look like purple silk licensed the most splendid wedding in Saxon history. St. Peter's provided the venue. The Pope himself officiated. The very union of East and West seemed achieved as the squat and ginger-haired groom was joined to his willowy bride. So that was Millennium by Dan... By Tom Holland! Dominic, behave. By Tom Holland.
Starting point is 00:02:02 A wonderful book all about the world at the turn of the first millennium. And the princess in that story, Tom, princess sent by the Eastern Roman Emperor in Constantinople to marry the son of the Emperor of the West. She is our subject today. An extraordinary life story, a tantalizing figure. It's great to be doing a female protagonist on The Rest is History. I know we love a female protagonist, don't we? You've chosen this subject, and what's so wonderful about it is it allows us to explore
Starting point is 00:02:34 a period of medieval history that usually seems a little bit murky to people in the English-speaking world, doesn't it? Yeah, I think it is a really, really fascinating period. And I think that Theophanu as a figure is fascinating for two reasons, really. The backdrop to her life, as you said, it's a period that isn't well-known relative, say, to other periods of medieval history, but it's a time when you can almost see the ancient world in the process of mutation into the world that we live in now. And it kind of reminds me, you are not as big a fan of natural history museums as I am. But often there may be a diorama of prehistoric mammals. Yeah, always.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And, you know, you might see a horse or an elephant or something and you can recognise them, but there'll also be all kinds of weird animals that have completely gone extinct. And it slightly has that quality. Hold on, is she a horse or is she a pterodactyl? I think she's more of a pterodactyl because of course the Byzantine empire has gone. Yeah. So she is a princess from an empire that has long since vanished. She's a Roman. Exactly. And I think that this is a period, it's 500 years on from the collapse of the Roman Empire in the West, but this is still a period that is massively, massively influenced by that great seismic geopolitical shock, the implosion and fracturing of the Roman Empire. Because if you think 500
Starting point is 00:03:57 years before this, so let's say 450, the Mediterranean is still just about a Roman lake. Yeah. It's the only period in history where a unitary power controls all the seaboard of the mediterranean but now at the end of the 10th century that is obviously no longer the case and essentially you have three heirs to the roman empire so the first of these is an empire that does not look to Rome as its exemplar and is not, as the Roman Empire had become, Christian. And that, of course, is the empire of Islam, the Caliphate.
Starting point is 00:04:31 But it does occupy a large and much of the richest territory of the old Roman Empire, right? Egypt, the breadbasket, the Levant. So you've got a rival Caliphate in Cordoba at this point? Yeah. So we talked about that in an episode about the Caliphate of Cordoba that's ruled by the Ameads, who were the original dynasty, got overthrown by the Abbasids. And one of the Ameads fled to Spain and established his own little caliphate in Spain. And Cordoba is, with
Starting point is 00:05:01 Constantinople, one of the two great cities in Europe at this period. But you also have an upstart caliphate, which originates in North Africa and is contesting what's Morocco with the Umayyads, rules much of Sicily. Sicily at this point is home to all kinds of Muslim corsairs, slavers. But the Fatimids, and they're called that after Fatima, who's the daughter of the prophet. So they claim descent from Ali, who was the nephew and the son-in-law of Muhammad, and Fatima. And they're Shia, not Sunni. And in this period, the very year that Theophanu is traveling from Constantinople to Rome,
Starting point is 00:05:37 the Fatimids are conquering Egypt and founding Cairo. And in 973, the Fatimid caliph will go to Cairo to kind of set up base there. So that is a massive, massive kind of geopolitical gorilla in the room. The Muslim world is by far the richest, the most powerful, the most predatory power in the Mediterranean at this period. But of course, you also have what we call Byzantium. They think of themselves as the Romans. They didn't call themselves Byzantines. So the big trend now is to lean into that, right? So there's a guy called Antony Caldellus, who's probably the most influential, younger historian of what we would once have called Byzantium. And his book is all the new Roman
Starting point is 00:06:17 empire. This is basically the Roman empire. They call themselves Romans. They're still around. They're still there in Constantinople. They absolutely are. And they're making a comeback. So say AD 900, a lifetime before Theophanu is born, it's still really on its uppers. It's been fighting for its life really ever since the Arabs established their empire in the 7th century. And they twice besieged Constantinople and the Byzantines. We'll call them the Byzantines for the sake of argument. They hold out, but only just. And in 900, the Byzantine Empire has shrunk to maybe three quarters of what's now Turkey, of Anatolia, Greece, bits of the heel of Italy. But it's a thing of shreds and patches compared to what it had once been.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But in the 10th century, the empire is back on the attack. So this is the Macedonian dynasty and then the Macedonian Renaissance, right? New emperors. Yes, it is. Tough, battle-hardened. Warrior emperors, of whom the archetype is actually, he's a usurper. He's a man called Nikephorus Phokas, amusingly named. I would call him Nikephorus Ph Focas. Would you? I would, yeah. Well, he means victory bringer. Yeah. And he is a victory bringer. He brings victory.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And he's very ascetic. He's very battle-hardened. He comes from the eastern limits of the empire, where people are forged in constant warfare against their Muslim adversaries. Very strong. The story told of him is that he could drive a pike right through the front of an adversary in full armour and the head would come out the back. So that's very impressive. And he is described by a very sneery Italian diplomat, who we might mention
Starting point is 00:07:57 later on, who goes to pay a visit to him, as looking like a wildly bristling pig. And he has small eyes like a mole moles are quite blind aren't they and so this i think very unfair because he's clearly an unbelievably effective general yeah so he's he's known by the byzantines as the pale death of the saracens which i think is much more kind of complimentary yeah that's a great name and he has captured from the caliphate he's captured crete he's pushed the frontier back in Anatolia. So he captures Tarsus, the birthplace of St. Paul on the south coast. More than a hundred towns and fortresses.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And very impressively, he's captured what is reputed to have been the sword of Muhammad himself, Zulfikar, the cleaver of vertebrae. Impressive achievements from a Byzantine general. Yeah, I'm sure that definitely was Muhammad's sword. I'm sure it was. So he comes to power in a coup in 963, and he rules for six years, continues his campaigns of conquest, but isn't tremendously popular, basically because he's a little bit too military. So he kind of turns the palace into equivalent of a military camp. He's constantly raising money for his campaigns.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And he stages this brilliant kind of Justinianic tattoo in the hippodrome. So Justinian was the emperor who presided over the worst sports riot in history, where a kind of bust up between rival fans incinerates half of Constantinople. So there's a kind of echo of that. There's a riot, there's a stampede and things. And he's also alienated the church because as someone who is fighting Muslims, he's come to appreciate that Muslims think that if you die in battle, then you die as a martyr and you go straight to heaven. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And he feels that this is an incentive for his enemies. Whereas Christians, if they kill someone, they have to do penance. And he feels it's a bit of a drag, a bit of a drag anchor. And so he asks if maybe doctrine on that could be revised and the patriarch says no and not only that but he doubles the penance that has to be done that's foolish from the patriarch i think but also nikephras phokas is not a terribly successful husband is he this is the key to his downfall so often the way in the eastern roman empire well i mean you know he's got the eyes of a mole and the the hair of a pig yeah it's not a good look whereas
Starting point is 00:10:10 he has a young officer john simiskis who is unbelievably handsome and um 969 john simiskis just before christmas he's got a few lads with him they get in a boat they row across the bosphorus to where the great palace of the emperor is and there's a balcony and hanging from the balcony they find a basket and john smisky gets in the basket and again i'm convinced all this actually happened definitely he gets pulled up in the basket and um there waiting for him is the empress with whom john has been having an affair and the empress leads him into the Empress with whom John has been having an affair. And the Empress leads him into the sleeping quarters of her husband where he is wrapped up in a bear skin.
Starting point is 00:10:52 That's very military. Yeah. Snoring heavily. Yeah. And John kills him, chops off his head and displays it. And he becomes Emperor himself. So he's in a tricky position. He needs to consolidate his position as emperor. And so he looks westwards to the third of the great successors of the Roman empire,
Starting point is 00:11:13 which is the Latin West. So we've said 500 years since the implosion of Roman power in the West, and you have all these barbarian kingdoms that have kind of planted themselves on the rubble of the Roman Empire. And this is a period where you can see unitary states emerging in a form that we still have them today. So this is the period of England emerging as a United Kingdom. So Athelstan, the first king of United England, had ruled in the early part of the 10th century. Denmark is emerging. So Harold Bluetooth, who gives his name to Bluetooth technology because he joined all the various parts of Scandinavia together under a Christian kingship. So Harold Bluetooth is the first Christian king. England is Edgar. Is it Edgar at this point? I think it is.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Edgar the Peaceable. Great. So-called because he kept peace by hanging anybody who gave him any trouble, not because he was a hippie. Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime, Tom. Yes, exactly. Exactly. But elsewhere, it's more of a mess because what today would be France, the Low Countries, Germany, Italy, these are not anything resembling nation states at this point, because all of them are haunted by the attempt to revive the Roman empire, which had been led by Charlemagne, who in AD 800,
Starting point is 00:12:31 the great Frankish king, had been crowned in Rome by the Pope himself. But his empire had then split and fragmented, and the line of Charlemagne had gone extinct. So Charlemagne's empire had been divided in three, between what will become France, what will become the Low Countries and the divided line going down the Rhine to Switzerland. Lotharingia. Lotharingia, and then what will become Germany. And in the 10th century, the real motor of power, the real centre of gravity is in what will become Germany and specifically Saxony. The Saxons have been conquered by the Franks, but have now become Christian. And as is so often the way, it's the barbarian people who end up ruling their conquerors.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And the great conqueror in this period is someone we have talked about on The Rest Is History. Otto the Great loves a kind of Peter Frankopan style shirt open to his navel, very, very hairy, great tufts of hair billowing out, mighty warrior, and leads a kind of ride of the Roerim cavalry charge against the Hungarians who were besieging Augsburg. So long ago we talked about that, Tom. I mean, that was when The Rest of history had four listeners. Yes. And he wins this great battle and essentially is in pole position to become emperor, to stand in a line of inheritance that goes back to Charlemagne, but then beyond that to Constantine and ultimately, I suppose, to Augustus.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah. But to do that, he needs the second great institution that looks back to the Roman period. And that, of course, is the papacy. Now, I'm reading your notes. The excellent looking line has been in a bad way. The pornocracy. Yes. What is the pornocracy?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Well, we actually talked about that in the episode we did on Pope Joan. It's the rule of prostitutes is the name that gets given. And it's probably the darkest period in the history of the papacy. And it kicks off with one of the great scandalous episodes in the history of the papacy. When in 896, the corpse of a Pope called Formosus is put on trial by one of his successors and is put on a stool. And it's kind of, you know, bits of eyeball hanging out from the skull. It's kind of stinking. Do you have anything to say for yourself? He's arrayed in his papal robes, found guilty. And the papal vestments are ritually torn off
Starting point is 00:15:00 his corpse. The rings from his finger are removed and his corpse is thrown into the tiber where it gets rescued by a monk who then buries it. And in due course, his papacy is re-legitimised. So Formosa still ranks as a pope to this day. What has Formosa done? It's political shenanigans. It's nothing to do with theology. Okay. Because this is a period where the pope rules a chunk of Italy, but is centred in Rome. And there are very, very powerful, ambitious Roman noblemen
Starting point is 00:15:26 who essentially are trying to seize control of it. And this is where the pornography comes in. Right. It's nothing to do with pornography, or is it? Well, a porne in Greek is a prostitute. So has he been interfering with prostitutes, Formosus? No, Formosus has nothing to do with that. Formosus has been embroiled in political shenanigans, and these political shenanigans run throughout the succeeding decades. The reason that it is given the word pornography is because the papacy comes under the thumb of one particular Roman nobleman. He's called Theophilact, and he's the Count of Tusculum. And he has a wife, Theodora,
Starting point is 00:15:58 who, according to the traditions, and obviously they're written by disapproving monks, so slight pinch of salt to the stories. But the story is that she disapproving monks. So slight pinch of salt to the stories. But the story is that she becomes the lover of one of the popes, John X. And in due course, she and her husband then pimp out their teenage daughter, Marozia, to another pope, Sergius III. And so it carries on. And it's famously summed up by Edward Gibbon in The Decline of the Roman Empire. The bastard son, two grandsons, two great-grandsons, and one great-great-grandson of Marozia, a rare genealogy, was seated in the chair of St. Peter. So Marozia, the daughter of
Starting point is 00:16:39 these two powerful figures in Roman politics, she basically is the porno, the prostitute who is engaged with a whole succession of popes. There's a lot for Thomas Cromwell to play with here, Tom, isn't there? Well, but also with reformist popes, because there are plenty of people in the Vatican and the Lateran Palace who think this is appalling. And in 965, you get a pope who takes his place in the chair of St. Peter, who is determined to stop this and to break the power of the Roman aristocracy. It's difficult for him. He's briefly put in prison.
Starting point is 00:17:12 He reaches out to one of my favourite early medieval aristocrats of all time. He's an Italian prince called Pandolf Ironhead. Great name. Which is so Game of Thrones, it's not true. Yeah. Ironhead. Great name. Which is so Game of Thrones, it's not true. And with the help of Pandolf Ironhead, John XIII is able to seize control of Rome and he breaks the power of the Roman aristocracy, systematically humiliating the guy who is the prefect of the city, a guy called Peter. So they take him to the statue of Marcus Aurelius, the equestrian statue that visitors to Rome may
Starting point is 00:17:44 have seen. And it survives because they think that it's a statue of Marcus Aurelius, the equestrian statue that visitors to Rome may have seen. And it survives because they think that it's a statue of Constantine. And they hang him by his hair from the equestrian statue. So he's kind of dangling there. Then he gets taken down. All his clothes get taken off. He gets put on a donkey, you know, facing backwards. He has a bell hung around his neck.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And he's then driven through the city all around. So he's kind of made a figure of absolute ridicule. Yeah. And then he's thrown into a dungeon. Hard to recover your dignity after that, I think. Absolutely impossible. But John XIII has absolutely demonstrated that he is, he's the power player. And this then means that when Otto III, who has established his power north of the Alps,
Starting point is 00:18:29 who's defeated the Hungarians, who's a tremendous lad. Everyone thinks he's tremendous. When he comes down into Italy, John XIII is in pole position to crown him. And they basically form an alliance. And in fact, John XIII hands over Peter, the humiliated prefect, to Otto III, who takes him north and imprisons him there. And John thinks this is great. So he hails Otto as the liberator and restorer of the church, crowns him as Caesar. And of course, this puts shade on the emperor in Constantinople. And at this point, it's Nikephoros who is not amused by this at all. Otto, he's a Saxon nobleman who is now claiming to be the heir of Augustus. he feels that he can only really legitimize that claim by getting a princess, a Byzantine princess, for his son. And so he sends an ambassador off to talk to Nikephoros, a guy called Leoprand, who comes from Cremona. Oh, Leoprand of Cremona. Great to have him on
Starting point is 00:19:17 the show. And he's the guy who is very kind of rude about Nikephoros. And the reason for that is that the Pope has made an absolute howling mistake because in the letters that he writes to Constantinople, he refers to the emperor of the Greeks rather than the emperor of the Romans. Schoolboy era. It's an absolute schoolboy era. And so Nikephoros is furious and refuses to have anything to do with Otto's embassy and says, no, you can't have a princess. But when he gets killed and John Samiski takes his place, he's anxious to buttress his regime. And so the negotiations can reopen. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And so this is the context that sees Theophano arrive in Rome. Right. And it is assumed in Rome that Theophano is the daughter of the emperor. So John's daughter, yeah. Yeah. And so this is the assumption that governs the marriage, which takes place on the 14th of April, 972, when John XIII marries them in Rome. But it then subsequently turns out that she's not actually his daughter, that she's his
Starting point is 00:20:21 step-niece. And, you know, there are people in Otto's entourage who say this isn't on. She's damaged goods. We should send her back, get a refund. But Otto says no, partly, I think, because it would be too embarrassing. But also, I think, because even though Theophano is only a young girl, she's kind of 14, 15 by this point. He can really see something in her. He can see that she is an impressive, impressive woman. So just to recap, Tom, she has been married to the son of Otto the Great. Who is also called Otto. So Otto Jr. is a fellow who you describe as squat and ginger haired. He's Ron Weasley. Yeah. And they're not going to send her back.
Starting point is 00:21:02 They're not going to send her back. And also, is she a bit of a catch? Yes. But I think she's, well, as we will see, she's a very, very impressive woman. And that matters because this is a period in Latin Christendom. Powerful women are players to a degree that some people might find surprising. Okay. Because you might think this is a period of, you know, hairy men savaging each other with swords. And it is.
Starting point is 00:21:24 But it's a period that Pauline Stafford, who's a great writer on the subject of powerful women in this period, she calls it the century of women. So we've mentioned Marozia, the Roman porne. I think the abuse that is shoveled on her shows some of the penalties that women run if they are power players. But there are examples of very powerful women who are commemorated as great figures. So Athelstan's aunt Athelflad, the Lady of the Mercians, who plays a great role in the knitting together of the United Kingdom of England. But it's really the Ottonians, it's the family, the dynasty of Otto that you see this most clearly. So his sister,
Starting point is 00:22:04 who has the brilliant name Gerberger okay she marries king of what will become france so if you think of you know there's the german kingdom and there's the what let's call it the french kingdom yeah frankish kingdom and she marries the king has eight children by him but her husband dies while her son is is still only 13 And so she rules as regent. I mean, she is responsible for the running of that kingdom. And you also have Otto's wife, who is a woman called Adelaide, and she is the daughter of the King of Burgundy, which is one of those kind of kingdoms, Lotharingia, kind of down the middle. And when Otto is crowned in Rome and anointed, she is crowned and anointed alongside him.
Starting point is 00:22:45 So she is an empress. She is an imperatrix, an imperatrix Augusta. And so is Theophano. Theophano has the same thing. And this idea that queens can be consecrated, that this holy oil, which elevates them to a kind of a sacrosanct status, it's not just kings who are benefiting from that. Their queens and their empresses do as well. And this then, can I say, sacralises? Sounds like you're going to.
Starting point is 00:23:11 The role that they play in the court, because nothing in a court is private. Everything that a woman does, especially if she's the queen, is public. It's her role to intercede with her husband, to ask for mercy, to care for the sick, to distribute arms to the poor, to be responsible for the weaving of the vestments and the tapestries that will adorn the priests and the churches. And it's all very, very public. And the role played by the queen reflects massively on the king so if the queen is kind of rubbish or sleeping around or loses her reputation then that reflects very badly yeah but equally if she is respected for her piety and as someone who cares for her subjects then that's brilliant for the king absolutely brilliant and obviously i get the sense of a rise in the power of queens
Starting point is 00:24:05 in this period, but you're arguing that, or there is an argument that this is new. Yes. That women are being given more power than in the eighth or seventh century or whatever. Because there had been, for example, women rulers in the Eastern Roman empire. There'd been Irene and so on and so forth. Well, we'll come to that. So we're just talking about the Frankish traditions at this point, and indeed the Anglo-Saxon traditions too. But in the Latin West, definitely there is a rise in the relative status of queens. So there's a chronicler who says about powerful, it's not just queens, I mean, it's aristocrats as well, the powerful women in this world, the Etonian court, they sit while all around her people stand. So this idea that she is a domina, a female lord, a lady, I suppose, but it's more than a lady. A dominus is
Starting point is 00:24:55 almost more than an emperor. It's a figure of enormous power. So the virgin is a domina. She is the domina of heaven. And there's a sense in which queens are kind of playing the part of the virgin and we will see that this is something that theophany makes great play with and i think it's partly to do with kind of theological changes notions about anointing and and all that but i think it's also the simple fact that men are likelier to die than women because they're fighting they're hunting they, they're doing mad things, kind of throwing bones at each other. And so this then means that women, because of this sacrosanct status, are able to play a role as regents, as Gebirge does. So do you know who did that at this exact period? St. Olga.
Starting point is 00:25:37 That's right. Olga of Kiev. Her husband died. He was torn apart by, I think, the Derevlians. Yes. And she ended up as regent in a very masculine world, the world of the kind of the Rus in Kiev. So again, a woman playing because she's experienced. Well, she's actually not. She's quite young.
Starting point is 00:25:54 But because she's not going to die in battle, right? Well, she's a figure of terrifying power. Yeah. I mean, you know, kind of dive-bonging towns with birds and all kinds of things. Yeah. Burying people alive, all kinds of japes. Yes. All that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah. So this is a period where in Kiev or in England or in France or in what will become Germany, women are expected to play this role if required. Yeah. You know, if a ruler is too young or whatever. And so this then sets up an intriguing tension when in 973, Otto the Great dies. So barely a year after his son, Otto Jr., who now becomes Otto II, has married Theophanu. And of course, you have lurking in the background, Adelaide, Otto the Great's wife.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah. Who would have the expectation that she should play the key role because Theophano is still 15, 16. Yeah. At this point. And so the question then is, what is her role going to be? Is she going to be able to carve out a distinctive role for herself? Or is she going to be put firmly in the shadow by the imperious ex-empress and daughter of
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Starting point is 00:28:17 We're about to find out the role that Theophanu plays after the death of her father-in-law, Otto the Great, the great hard man of Saxony who sees himself as a Caesar in the West. Just before we find out how Theophanu does, can I ask you, do we have any sense of her personality at this point? There are contradictory reports, and I think these contradictory reports reflect the fact that there are contradictory factions who have reasons to emphasize one thing or another. So I think it is very difficult to get a handle on what she was like as an actual person. But I think that as we will see from her performance, her record, one thing we can be sure of, she is awesomely competent because, I mean, she's in a very tricky position.
Starting point is 00:29:06 She's a foreigner. She's a teenager. She has a massively intimidating mother-in-law. She probably doesn't speak the language. I mean, it's an awkward position to be in. However, the upside is that she is the anointed wife of an emperor, an imperatrix Augusta. And so she has scope to make play with all the things that we were talking about before, this sense that people in the Saxon court and beyond are willing
Starting point is 00:29:32 to allow a powerful woman a chance to do her stuff. And I think the fact that she is a foreigner actually works to her advantage because it's pretty clear that the Saxons aren't entirely sure what to make of her. So there are certainly those who are suspicious of her and resentful of her. So you asked, how do people think of her? There are people who say she talks too much, that this is a very Greek thing. So they talk of her insolent prattling. But there are others who say, you know, this is a tremendously serious, solemn and modest woman. And then Chronicler adds, which is of course a rare thing in a Greek. So I think you see there the sense that her behavior is obviously not Saxon,
Starting point is 00:30:19 but the very fact that she is distinctive, that she brings a different way of understanding things helps her. And I think this is really important because obviously she is distinctive, that she brings a different way of understanding things, helps her. And I think this is really important because obviously she does have, she has enemies of whom Adelaide is the most notable. Adelaide hates her. She refers to Theophanu as that Greek woman, that Greek girl. She never calls her by name. And to begin with, she is very determined that her son, Otto II, is going to remain firmly under her thumb.
Starting point is 00:30:46 So she follows the happy couple everywhere that they go. She is essentially trying to rule as regent. And Theophanu is having none of this. And within a year of her husband becoming king, she and Adelaide having massive bust-ups about whether Adelaide can use the lands that she has in Germany to further Adelaide's own purposes. And basically, Theophanie wins that. And the sense of a kind of a massive cleavage in the heart of the Ottonian court is heightened by the fact that there is another big adversary that not just Theophanie, but her husband
Starting point is 00:31:21 Otto II has. And this is Otto II's uncle,'s the duke of bavaria who rejoices in the brilliant name of henry the quarrelsome and he is indeed quarrelsome and there's just kind of endless rows it's all about who gets to appoint bishops all that kind of stuff i mean the details aren't that important right basically he wants to become the duke of swabia i mean basically he wants to become the king and thereabia. I mean, basically he wants to become the king. And there are all kinds of bust-ups throughout the 970s. Otto is endlessly imprisoning Henry the Quarrelsome, letting him go, imprisoning him again. And by 976, there's been open warfare. Henry the Quarrelsome
Starting point is 00:31:56 has been captured, handed over to the Bishop of Utrecht, who keeps him in prison for the rest of Otto II's life. And I think that this definitely damages Adelaide because she is seen as having been aligned with Henry the Quarrelsome. And I think that really helps Theophanu's status. And of course, the other thing that helps Theophanu is that it's not just her personal qualities, but as you were kind of alluding to in the first half, that she is the embodiment of a much more sophisticated court than the Saxon court. And that of course is the court at Constantinople. And there are Saxon noblemen who side with Henry the Quarrelsome and Adelaide against Theophanu, who resent it, who basically say Otto II has gone Greek. You know, he's no longer one of the lads.
Starting point is 00:32:41 He's no longer kind of cracking open bones and gnawing out the marrow and throwing it at people and japing. I mean, it's a bit like what people say about Prince Harry. He used to be a lad and now he's gone all weird with his foreign wife. So it's kind of slightly like that. But what Theophanu can provide is basically what Otto the Great had wanted, which is a sheen of class. Prestige. Roman prestige. Yeah. Sophistication. So she has a massive influence on the way the court behaves. So she brings all these kind of silk robes, all these jewels. I mean, no one in Saxony has seen anything like it. She takes a daily bath. Unheard of. of i mean charlemagne liked to bath but people are not normally taking a bath every day absolute scenes and very famously she introduces
Starting point is 00:33:32 to the table the dining table a fascinating new ornament so it's described as a golden double prong which brings food to the mouth by a chronicler so So it's a fork. The inventor of the fork. But she doesn't invent it. I mean, the Byzantines have it, but she brings it. Yeah. I'll be frank with you. I don't believe that people in Western Europe had never seen forks before. I mean, it's a golden fork that she has, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:33:55 I'm less skeptical. Because I think you'd use a fork for spitting and roasting things. You might use a sword, but it's a double prong, isn't it? Double prong. That's the key. Thank God she didn't have a fork with three prongs. That would have been really shocking. I know. I wonder who introduced that. But it's not just manners, obviously. It's the way of being an emperor that in Constantinople is the legacy of centuries and centuries of Roman ritual. And part of that, again, as you suggested, is that this emphasis in the Latin West on the sacral role played by queens and empresses.
Starting point is 00:34:27 With Theophanu, it fuses with a kind of Byzantine sense that the empress is the counterpart of the emperor, that that is her role. And I think that Theophanu obviously completely buys into this. And it's an approach that fuses very easily with what she finds in the Latin West, but elevates and dignifies it. It's even grander than anything that Adelaide had known. And Theophanu is able to carry it off because she clearly has a kind of incredible sense of theatre, of dignity, of poise, of sophistication. And I think that lots of Saxons love this because they are aware that
Starting point is 00:35:06 the emperor in Constantinople traditionally has looked down on the Franks as barbarians. Yeah. So when Leoprand of Cremona goes to ask Nikephoros at the beginning, can we have a princess and gets rebuffed? I mean, he's full of complaints that all the snubs he gets, you know, he's, he's sat beneath a Bulgarian, he's given bad food. He's not given good accommodation. He complains that the Greeks are soft, effeminate, long-sleeved, hooded, veiled, lying, gender fluid, idle creatures. And then to rub salt into his wounds, all the silks that he's bought in the market in Constantinople get confiscated by customs officials. So massive, massive resentment. But he'd been 18 years earlier and had a splendid
Starting point is 00:35:46 time, hosted by a much friendlier emperor. And he'd loved it. And he'd been invited in, he'd reclined on a couch like an ancient Roman, eating sumptuous meals off golden dishes. All kinds of organs spring up from the floor. Gold dishes of fruit descend from the ceiling. There's a kind of weird thing. There's a strong man who he balances a kind of a pole on his forehead and kind of two young lads run up and down this pole doing magic tricks. I mean, it's very weird. And you'd think that that was made up, but you get the same thing from the court of the Caliphs. It's clearly a kind of Middle Eastern imperial thing that's done. Leoprand of Cremona thinks this is tremendous. So I think you get in him what's going on. It's this blend of admiration, fascination, and resentment. Classic cultural cringe, right?
Starting point is 00:36:36 Absolutely. And so Theophanu is elegant, she's silken, she's bejeweled, and she gives to Otto a kind of a touch of the glamour of Constantinople. And Otto, of course, absolutely loves this. And it enables her to become a really heavyweight player in the game of court politics. So she sees off Adelaide, who ends up retiring to Burgundy. She accompanies her husband everywhere. She is seen as someone who it's worth approaching. She's playing that classic role of the queen who intercedes with her husband. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And she's very, very influential on table manners. So everyone's using forks now. Little golden forks, exactly. Huge increase in court splend splendor and i think a very interesting change in the way that the virgin mary is presented so we talked about how the virgin is seen as the domina of the court of of heaven it's in this period that the virgin starts to be portrayed as a byzantine empress so with the jewels and the silks right which is obviously a reflection of how theophano is presenting herself and giving Otto all this kind of, you know, this sense of class. And then in 980, she absolutely does her duty by giving him
Starting point is 00:37:51 a son. And Dominic, can you guess what the son of Otto II, the son of Otto I is called? Otto, of course. Yeah, it is. It's going to be Otto, isn't it? It is. A lot of Ottos. So this is great. So Otto is feeling, you know, by 980, he's got a son. He's seen off Henry the Quarrelsome. He's got a brilliant wife. He's classy. He's got his fork. Having a bath. Absolutely brilliant. Living the dream. And he feels that he's now ready to cross the Alps and reassert his authority over Italy in the way that his father had done.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Because obviously as an emperor of the Romans, it's a bit embarrassing if you can't actually rule in Rome. And to be an emperor... He's got to be crowned. So Tom, big question. Has he been crowned emperor? Because you have to be crowned in Rome, don't you, to become emperor? Otherwise you're just king. He has been. He was crowned while his father was still alive, as Theophany was as well. Ah, interesting. So that's why she is an imperatrix, he is an imperator. Yeah. They are an imperial couple.
Starting point is 00:38:48 But of course, you can't really be an emperor of the Romans if you're not sat in Rome. Yeah. So that's why he goes there. He crosses the Alps in November 980. By spring, he has arrived in Rome. He's holding court. And I think it is hard not to feel that the presence beside him of Theophanu, a princess from the new Rome, from the city of Constantine,
Starting point is 00:39:13 kind of raises his horizons, expands his horizons, and makes him think he would like to rule more completely as a Caesar than his father had done. And to rule as a Caesar kind of requires you to rule Italy. I mean, this is the homeland of the Roman Empire. And essentially this becomes his plan. He's going to conquer Italy. Now there are two massive problems with this because there are two very, very menacing adversaries in the South. And the first of these, of course, is Byzantium. Yeah, because if Italy is to be Roman, which Rome? Right, exactly. And actually, Otto the Great and the Byzantine garrisons in the south, they'd actually been fighting each other about a decade before. Obviously, the peace treaty with John Simitskis had sorted that out. Theophanu had arrived. You'd think it would be peace.
Starting point is 00:40:02 So how can he possibly think of going to war with Byzantium? Well, the answer is, is that John Smitsky by this point has been himself assassinated and replaced, poisoned by a eunuch, it is claimed. And Theophanu is incredibly hostile to the murderers of her uncle-in-law and is clearly encouraging Otto to go down and have a crack at it. Ah, right. Of course. So presumably Theophany herself is thinking, you know, let's start by kicking these usurpers out of Italy, but then why not go on? Why not become empress of a reunited Roman empire? And she is now the mother of a son who has the blood of the imperial families, both of Constantinople and of Rome in his veins. So, you know, why not? Let's reunite the Roman empire. So that's all very exciting. And I think that Theophany is undoubtedly influencing Otto in his, you know, his kind of ambitions for this.
Starting point is 00:40:57 But of course there are also non-Christian, non-Roman enemies, and that is the Saracens, the Fatimid Caliphate. There are various emirs, subordinate rulers in Sicily, who in turn sponsor the various pirate fleets that are sailing up the seaboard of Italy and just stripping Italy bare. So all the old Roman cities, basically by this point, have been abandoned because it's too dangerous. And if you think about people who've driven through Italy, often, particularly in the South, villages and towns that are up on hills, they're not down on the plains where they had been in the Roman period. And that's because you have to be up there because otherwise you're going to be taken away as a slave. They have unbelievably sophisticated
Starting point is 00:41:37 slaving operations. They have people who take on different roles in the process of enslavement, of rounding people up. And they've been menacing Rome itself. They've kind of sacked St. Peter's at one point. And I think Otto also is worried that there seems to be a swelling of Saracen power in this period, that the pirates are becoming more active and he's afraid for Rome. So it's also about having kind of preemptive strike at them. And they're striking from Sicily, right? They're striking up the coast from Sicily. Yeah. So January 982, Otto heads off at the head of a kind of great army of what are called loricati, armored horsemen, and Theophanu is riding with him. They cross into Byzantine territory and Otto says to the Byzantine garrisons, I come as a Christian, I come as a Caesar, I come as a Roman, join with me, let's pool our resources and go and
Starting point is 00:42:25 attack the Saracens in Sicily. The Byzantine garrisons refuse. Otto loses his patience. He invests Tarento, which is under Byzantine rule, captures it, and then formally proclaims himself emperor of the entire Roman world. And his justification for this is that the Byzantines are cowardly, that they have refused to join him in this great war. Therefore, they no longer have any right to the name of Roman. They no longer deserve to rank as the shield of Christendom. Otto now should rule as sole emperor. So an important question. Is that just performative, as it were? Is that just, he knows it's good pr or does he genuinely think
Starting point is 00:43:06 that within the short to medium term he will unite the two hours of the roman empire again i think the latter for reasons we'll come to at the end of this show and it's massively influenced by theophanie okay i think that theophanie has a properly pan-mediterranean vision she is familiar with constantinople she's Constantinople, she's familiar with Rome, she's familiar with Saxony. I think that she, for reasons that are not entirely geopolitical but theological, will come to that particular reason. I think she does think a time is approaching when the whole Roman Empire will be reunited. Unfortunately, it doesn't go well and Otto's attempt to defeat the Saracens is a complete disaster. So in July,
Starting point is 00:43:48 they meet with a massive Saracen fleet and army. Otto is defeated. He has to escape the battlefield, borrows a horse from a passing Jew, rides it out into the sea, gets picked up by Byzantine galley. Very, very humiliating. Yeah, his enemies. Yeah, so Otto says to the guy who's picked him up, let us hope that your emperor, my brother, will be a loyal friend to me in my time of need. Whoa, you've changed your tune.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah, he's changed his tune. And he gets rode back and he meets up with Theophanu. And Theophanu is furious with him, kind of bollocks him and says that her countrymen would never have been so rash. Okay. This doesn't bode well for the Ottonians becoming masters of the Roman world. If she's saying, you know, the Easterners would never have made this total horlicks of the operation. Yeah. So it all goes horribly wrong from this point on. Fortunately, the Sicilian battle leader, the Emir, has fallen in his hour of victory, which means that the Saracen onslaught is not
Starting point is 00:44:50 as devastating as it would otherwise have been. But it means that Otto has to stay in Italy to shore up the defences of Rome and northern Italy against Saracen raids. And meanwhile, up in Germany, of course, the news has arrived in Saxony and it's crossed the river Elbe to the Slavs, the Wens in particular. Yeah. The guys who, whenever they want to know what's going to happen, ask a horse. We've talked about them before. And they seize their opportunity and they rise in rebellion and they overthrow Ottonian power. They burn all the churches that have been built there, you know, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And the Danes get stuck in as well, don't they? The Danes attack Schleswig. Danes get stuck in. well, don't they? The Danes attack Schleswig. Danes get stuck in. Yeah, the Schleswig-Holstein question breaks out. They're attacking. And it's, you know, it's all a disaster. It's a measure, I think, of Otto's trust in Theophanu that he sends her north of the Alps to try and sort the situation out while he is busy in Italy trying to stabilize the situation
Starting point is 00:45:43 there. And Theophanu takes her three-year Italy trying to stabilize the situation there. And the orphan who takes her three-year-old son, the infant Otto, there's been a kind of stage managed election. He's been named co-emperor with his dad, big kind of dyer to Verona. And then she goes north. She goes to Aachen where the throne of Charlemagne, great palace of Charlemagne. And again, the little boy is crowned there. So she's, you know, she's still very into her ritual, her crowns, all that kind of thing. And then the crisis gets worse because on the 7th of December, Otto dies in Italy of malaria.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And is buried in St. Peter's and actually is the only Holy Roman Emperor to be buried in Rome. So, you know, the situation seems completely hopeless. You've got Saracens in the south, you've got the Wends have rebelled. You've got all these fractious noblemen. You've got a three-year-old boy on the throne, scavengers everywhere, looks disaster. But Theophanus steadies the ship and more than steadies the ship. She makes Saxony. Great again. You know, she stabilizes the frontiers. She patches up treaties with the Swedes, with the Danes, with Vladimir the Great in Kiev.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah. And Dominic with Basil the Second. Basil the Bulgar Slayer. Yes. Great character. And I have to say, I was always team Basil the Second. Were you? I wasn't on the side of the Bulgarians.
Starting point is 00:47:07 But now my personal trainer, S trainer simeon is a bulgarian but i'll just give him a shout out ejects brixton if anyone wants the best personal trainer you will ever find he is your man well he won't like this basil the bulgar slayer he was a ruthless man wasn't he he captured 15 000 prisoners blinded 99 out of every 100 and got the 100th to lead them back to Bulgaria. And the Bulgarian Tsar, Samuel, was so shocked. He dropped down out of a stroke. Yeah, I know. So I've talked about this with Simeon. What's he say? He doesn't approve of it at all as behaviour. You will know, Tom, that I'm a great Bulgarophile, actually. I've been to Bulgaria twice. I've become a massive Bulgarophile now. It's a great country. Anyway, this is all by the by. So this is all part of
Starting point is 00:47:46 Theophanu's approach. She's kind of making international friends, stabilising the frontiers. Yeah. Presiding as a simulacrum of the Virgin Mary, radiant in jewels and silks.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And I think through sheer force of personality, keeps a kingdom that her son can then inherit. Yeah. She actually dies in 991, so relatively young. And Adelaide, so Otto III's grandmother, Theophanu's mother-in-law, the wife of Otto the Great, she comes in and takes over. But Theophanu, she is given rave reviews. So a
Starting point is 00:48:21 chronicler called Thietmar, who was the Prince Bishop of Merseburg, quite fancy being a Prince Bishop. He wrote of Theophany, though of the weaker sex, she was moderate in all her actions, trustworthy and possessed of perfect manners. So again, this emphasis on her table manners. These qualities enabled her to preserve for her son, his royal authority and to do so with a masculine degree of vigilance. She was friends to all who did honestly by her, but devastating to foes and rebels. She sounds great, Tom. That's again, a bit like St. Olga. Yeah, I think she is great. And I think the biggest tribute to her impact is the character of her son, Otto III, who will rule
Starting point is 00:48:55 as emperor in the millennial year, the year 1000. And he's one of the most remarkable rulers, not just in the Middle Ages, but in the whole of European history, really extraordinary figure who fuses the Saxon and the Byzantine, and who is convinced that it is his destiny to unite both halves of the Roman Empire and to rule as this mythic figure, the last Roman emperor, because there are these traditions that are very, very current in Constantinople and with which Theophanu would undoubtedly have been incredibly familiar, that at the end of days, both halves of the empire will be united. The last Roman emperor will defeat all his enemies. He will then go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem. He will climb the hill
Starting point is 00:49:43 of Golgotha. He will take off his crown. A cross will descend. And at the same time, Antichrist will appear enthroned on the site of the temple. Yeah. And I think we should do an episode on Arthur III later. It's a brilliant, brilliant story. I think this conviction comes from Theophanu. And so that is why I think she can justifiably be called the Empress of the
Starting point is 00:50:08 Apocalypse. Because she thinks the apocalypse is coming and she prepares her son for it. I think she probably does. I mean, what's interesting is that the Byzantines are much less saturated in the imagery of the book of Revelation, which talks of the thousand year reign. So I think the year 1000 has much less significance for them. But in this period, when she's growing up, there is an absolute obsession in Constantinople with the figure of the last Roman emperor and also anxieties and hopes that the end of the world is approaching. So there's this kind of great swirl of prophecies, of hopes, of fears. And I think that Theophanu obviously takes those with her to Saxony and imbues Otto III with them. Right. A lot of that apocalyptic paranoia,
Starting point is 00:50:56 almost, or expectation that you see at the turn of the millennium, you think to some degree she fuels that. It is debated. It is a very live debate how many apocalyptic anxieties there are in Latin Europe in the year 1000. I think there are a lot. And I would, I mean, hopefully at some point, maybe next year, make the case for that and look at Otto III and look at those kind of apocalyptic anxieties. But I think Theophanou, her story is fascinating in its own right, but also as a kind of foreshadowing of what is to come.
Starting point is 00:51:27 All right. Brilliant, Tom. Very exciting. A really, really fascinating story. A nice light shone on an otherwise murky corner of medieval history. So on that bombshell, Tom, thank you so much for that. A tour de force. And we will see you next time.
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