The Rest Is History - 595. The First World War: The Battle of the Frontiers (Part 2)
Episode Date: August 27, 2025What was Britain's first military move following the outbreak of the First World War? Where did the French launch their initial attack on the Germans? Whose army was the biggest and best of all the pa...rticipants in the war? And, what unfolded at the pivotal Battle of the Ardennes in August 1914, on the frontiers of France, between the Germans and the French, and what would be the consequences of the outcome for the war as a whole? Join Dominic and Tom as they discuss, in riveting, unsparing detail, the dramatic early engagements of the First World War, and the bloody Battle of Ardennes. Join The Rest Is History Club: Unlock the full experience of the show – with exclusive bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to every series and live show tickets, a members-only newsletter, discounted books from the show, and access to our private Discord chatroom. Sign up directly at therestishistory.com For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Go to fuseenergy.com/history to switch your energy to Fuse and get £20 credit Join The Rest Is History Club: Unlock the full experience of the show – with exclusive bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to every series and live show tickets, a members-only newsletter, discounted books from the show, and access to our private Discord chatroom. Sign up directly at therestishistory.com. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com _______ Twitter: @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook Producer: Theo Young-Smith Assistant Producer: Tabby Syrett + Aaliyah Akude Executive Producers: Jack Davenport + Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Germans were all around us. One could see
them in the wood, and they were shooting quite close. The man who finally got me was about 15 to 20
yards away. His bullet was like a tremendous punch. Then everything was quiet, and a deep piece fell
upon the wood. It was very dreamlike. After about an hour and a half, I suppose, a German with a red
beard with the sun shining on his helmet and bayonet, came up, looking like an angel of death.
I inquired in broken but polite German what he proposed to do next.
After reading the English papers and seeing the way he was handling his bayonet,
it seemed to me that there was going to be another atrocity.
He was extraordinarily kind and polite.
He put something under my head, offered me wine, water and cigarettes.
He said,
We send Cameradon.
Another German soldier came up and said,
have I didn't just stay in England? I said, we obeyed orders, just as you do. That was the diary of the British officer and MP Albury Herbert. And he sounds a tremendous chap, Dominic, and exactly the calibre of man that I expect to be serving as an officer in his majesty's forces in the First World War. So he's like you, isn't he? He's a bailiol man who did history.
Yeah. He got a first in history. He became a conservative MP.
he's a great travel writer
and splendidly
he was twice offered
the throne of Albania
there's a lot of British people
who get offered
the throne of Albania
CB Fry the great cricketer
and an athlete
the Albanians just
they just want to give it away
so in 1914
this bloke Aubrey Herbert
actually came quite close
to accepting the throne of Albania
but his family friend
Herbert Henry Asquith
said no I don't think that's a good idea
God I bet he's being prodded at
with a bayonet
he wished he'd done it
Yeah. So he joined the Irish Guards in August 1914. He was sent with a British expeditionary force to France. And what he's describing here is the Battle of Mons, which is the first British engagement of the war. And he was wounded and he was briefly taken prisoner. But then later, I think, escaped or was rescued. Anyway, he had an amazing war. And we'll come back to that battle in today's episode. Because last time, Tom, we looked at the German invasion of Belgium, didn't we? And this time, at last, we come to our own beloved country.
and to the French, and what the British and French are getting up to against the Germans on the Western Front.
Now, before the war, everybody had said it will be ghastly.
It's a complete myth that people didn't know how murderous it would be.
And we talked last time about how the Germans are quite pessimistic and apocalyptic going into the war.
Kind of Nietzschean despair.
Yeah.
But that's shared in London.
Asquith, it will be a real Armageddon.
Sir Edward Gray, it will be the greatest catastrophe.
the world has ever seen. Winston Churchill, who's very keen on the war, is keen on the war,
despite the fact that he says it will be a calamity for civilised Europe. So, you know,
people know what's coming. But maybe for Churchill, that's a positive. Yes, exactly.
But I guess, so even Churchill, right, Churchill knew what war was like. He'd fought in countless little
wars. He'd fought in the Sudan. It'd fought in the Boer War. But these colonial wars, I mean,
they're not comparable, are they, to the full unleashing of industrial Armageddon?
No, because the forces that will be at play in the next few months on the Western Front,
two million Germans, two million Frenchmen, 100,000 Belgians,
and then actually is a very much smaller contingent, only 80,000 men of the British Expeditionary Force.
I mean, these are vast numbers, colossal numbers, by the standards of colonial wars.
You could add many colonial wars together and you wouldn't come close.
The small signs of the British Expeditionary Force reflects our proud island tradition of disdaining standing armies.
It's important to mention that early, isn't it?
Our love of liberty.
Exactly.
And what's also fascinating about this, especially for military historians, is, of course, it's technologically poised between old and new.
So all sides enter the war with tens of thousands of cavalrymen, people with kind of breastplates and swords and kind of plumed helmets.
But this will be a war of barbed wire and machine guns and shells and trenches.
which change everything.
And to give you a sense
of the sort of death toll
that we'll be talking about today,
on a single day
in August 1914,
the 22nd of August,
more Frenchmen were killed
than the British lost
in the entire Crimean War
or the entire Burr War
and that's just in one day.
And might that reflect the fact
that the British had actually fought
in the Burr War
and so were to that degree
familiar with what could be done
on a modern battlefield, and they had adopted their car key, whereas the French are still galloping
around like it's Napoleonic wars.
Yeah, well, we'll come to this.
I mean, this is a huge thing with the French.
They have these fantastic, multi-coloured Napoleonic kind of uniforms.
Breast plates and everything, yeah.
Exactly.
But let's begin in London.
So, Britain's ultimatum to Germany had expired at 11 o'clock on the evening of Tuesday,
the 4th of August.
Basically, you have to clear out of Belgium.
The ultimatum expires.
There's all people singing the national anthem.
and whatnot outside, Downing Street. It's not till the next day, with his customary urgency
that Herbert Henry Asquith convenes his war council. So there's four key ministers. They're
Asquith, Gray, Churchill and Richard Haldane, who had basically been the war minister who had
built up the army, and the first sea lord Prince Louis of Battenberg and 12 army generals. And the
question is, are we going to send an army to Europe? Now, most people know, because they know
how the First World War played out. But actually at the time, it seemed obvious probably that we
wouldn't. Because just as you said, Britain has always been a naval power. Britain is the only
major European combatant that doesn't have a system of compulsory military service. Britain is
unique in having a minuscule professional army. Only 250,000 men. And half of them are overseas.
They're in Africa or they're in India. Or they're in, you know, they're garrisoned.
far flung across the globe. So most people think, or did many people think, Britain probably
will stay out of the land war, as we had done so often in the 18th century or in the Napoleonic Wars.
So the most powerful press baron in the land is Lord Northcliffe. He owns the Times and the Mail.
He is arguably more powerful than 99% of politicians. And he said to his editors that day,
what is this I hear about a British expeditionary force for France? We have a superb fleet,
which will give all the assistance in its power.
but I will not support the sending out of this country of a single British soldier.
Not a single soldier will go with my consent.
Say so in the paper tomorrow.
Actually, Northcliff then changes his tune,
basically because this war council agrees that they will send troops.
And one of the key voices in this war council arguing we have to send troops
is a man we've had before on the rest of his history,
at the very end of his life, Sir Henry Wilson.
So the guy who gets assassinated thereby precipitating the Irish Civil War.
Exactly. So Henry Wilson at this stage is a very important voice in Britain's planning. And he says at this meeting, we have promised the French, we'll send troops to help them. We can't let them down. And so Henry Wilson also points out, he says, you know, he knows that for the Germans, the clock is ticking. He says the Germans are going to fall on France in the next few weeks, if not the next few days. And the French will need all the help that they can get.
Because if Paris gets captured, then effectively the war is over for Britain as well.
He says we just have to, even though we've only got a small force, we just need to do our bit.
So they agree they will send this British expeditionary force, and it's the BEF, one cavalry division, four infantry divisions, 80,000 people.
Is this more of a marker, though, to the French, of commitment, rather than actually, you know, a hard kind of support?
I think so. I think it's nice to have it. And I think in British historians, of course, talk a lot about the BEF and what it got up to.
and it's not inconsequential, but compared with the gigantic numbers that we talked about earlier.
I mean, we're talking about millions of men, 80,000 men.
I mean, it's nice to have them.
They're not nothing, but they're not that many.
But diplomatically, it's massive.
Yeah, diplomatically, it's really important to gesture of support.
But on the battlefield, Tom, the German infantry outnumbers the British infantry by 20 to 1.
These are the kind of odds that we like in a war.
Yes, well, the odds that always favour the British, I think.
enable us to show our pluck.
Exactly, because in the Burr War, we probably had too many men.
Yes, and so we didn't know what to do, did we?
Exactly.
We were scrambled.
Exactly.
By European standards, actually, although there are very few of them, they're very well trained
and they're very well equipped.
So the older men and some of the offices are veterans of the Burr War,
and they have these rifles, Lee Enfield, 0.303s,
which are seen as the best rifles in the world and Vickers machine guns.
So actually, they're a very modern kind of, they're an elite force,
I think it's fair to say.
Black squad of elite men, hand-picked.
And very good snipers, aren't they, as well?
They are.
They're brilliant shots, the British, I have to say.
And the Germans admit this when they first meet them at Montes.
Now, as for the officers, the officers obviously get a terrible press for the rest of the century.
And everybody says, oh, lions led by donkeys, all of this kind of thing.
Everyone laughs at their mustaches and their public school slang.
And they're all called biffo or something.
And they, you know, went to Radley or whatever.
I love the advert that gets posted in the first week of the war by a chap looking to set up his own private regiment.
Preference will be given to public school men of good appearance and address.
You'll know exactly what they look like because they'll have these very neatly trimmed moustaches.
And we talked in the previous episode how every nation, the fighting men are defined by their moustaches.
But the British moustaches are neater, I think, by and large, aren't they?
They're the best.
The officers are greatly introduced and caricatured.
However, one officer, who is a bit sub-ideal, is unfortunately.
Field Marshal Sir John French
So Field Marshal Sir John French
Is an Anglo-Irish cavalry commander
Now he had been a great hero
He'd serve a great distinction in the Burr War
Well Dominic we've met him
Also in the Irish
Yes of course
He almost gets blown up
By an IRA ambush
Yeah he didn't massively cover himself
In Glory in Ireland as I recall
No he's hopeless there as well
Yeah
So he is a huge womanizer
And he is a man of incredibly fierce opinions
Now I know you love the book
By Barbara Tuckman
the Guns of August.
It was the first book I read about this as a child,
and I still hold a candle for it.
I know that historians of the First World War despise it,
but it made it exciting to me.
I think it basically is a brilliant work of fiction.
I think is how most historians would describe it.
She's very funny at these little pen portraits,
so she says of Sir John French,
he was short stocky in Florida,
his apoplectic expression,
combined with the tight cavalryman's stock,
which he affected in place of collar and tie gave him the appearance of being perpetually
on the verge of choking, as indeed he was emotionally, if not physically.
So he's a great cavalryman, but he's never commanded a large, I mean, this isn't even
a large army by the First World War standards, but he's never commanded 80,000 men.
He's going to fight in France.
He doesn't speak any French.
So despite being called French, there's no nominative determinism there?
Not at all because he regards the French.
with absolute contempt.
So this is Sir John talking about the French generals.
There are a low lot,
and one always has to remember the class
that these French generals mostly come from.
It's brilliant that he's been appointed to this command, isn't it?
So his French collaborators is like your attitude, Tom, towards our French producer.
A respect to my, Theo.
No, no, no, I've been very harsh, actually.
I know you hold Theo in high regard.
So on the 13th of August, the British expeditionary force,
the BF, arrives in France.
So they land at Calais, La Avre, and Boulogne, and then they're all in train for Amiens,
where they're going to march to Belgium.
And they're very excited.
There's a great sense of camaraderie and adventure.
It's summer.
They're abroad.
So the younger men have obviously never been abroad, a lot of them.
They're well trained.
They're confident.
And Aubrey Herbert, who we began with, has a lovely passage in his memoir.
He says, we arrived very early.
Actually, you do it, Tom.
We arrive very early at La Ava in a blazing state.
son. As we came in, the French soldiers
tumbled out of their barracks and came to cheer us.
Our men had never seen foreign uniforms
before, and roared with laughter
at their colours. Stephen Burton
of the Coldstream Guards rebuked his men.
He said, these French troops
are our allies. They're going to fight with us
against the Germans. Whereupon one man
said, poor chaps, they deserve to
be encouraged, and took off his cap
and waved it and shouted, Vive L'Ompereur.
He was a bit behind the times.
Great scenes.
Everybody's behaved precisely.
on brand there. I think poor French have got
four years of this.
So the British go
they go east. At every station they come to
there are huge crowds. Aubrey Herbert says
we were met by enormous crowds that cheered
and would have kissed out of hands if we'd let them.
They made speeches and they piled wreaths
of flowers upon the colonel who was
at first very shy but driven to make a speech.
But another lieutenant
a guy called Guy Harcourt
Vernon records that when
they're going through Amiens
He overhears rather ominously some old women talking about them.
And one of the old women says,
Pover petit Angles, they will be killed.
Poor little Englishmen, they will soon be killed.
So what about the French?
So France, historically, of course, Europe's greatest land power.
And it still is a really serious player.
So under President Poincaray, something of a warmonger, I think it's fair to say,
They had built up their army.
With these Russian salads and everything.
Right.
The Russian salad guy.
The guy had basically gone to St. Petersburg and said, come on, this is the chance.
Let's have a crack at the Austrians and the Germans.
He had brought in this new law with more extended military service.
So France's army, even before the war, stands at 700,000 men.
Relative to population, they're the most militarized of all the great powers.
Their army, they don't have as many automatic weapons as the British.
They're not completely modernised.
But they've got great helmets, haven't they, with plumes on?
Yeah, they've spent probably too much time thinking about maintaining their old uniforms.
So they haven't adopted the khaki of the British or the grey of the Germans.
They've got these long blue over, they look tremendous,
these long blue overcoats and red trousers.
And their cavalry have this fantastic plumed helmets.
And they will go into battle with drums and trumpets beneath waving flags
and the commanders lead them in waving their swords and all of this.
Now the guy at the head of their army
is a very different character
from Sir John French.
He is Joseph Césaire Jouffer
who's not an aristocratic.
He's a son of a bloke who made barrels in the Pyrenees.
And so this is awful for French, isn't it, for Sir John French?
Having to talk to the son of a barrel maker.
The class that these chaps come from, absolutely ghastly.
His British liaison officer said of Jophe,
he was a bulky, slow-moving, loosely built man
enclosed that would have been the despair of Savile Row.
He looks like a kind of aged obelix, doesn't he?
He does, he does exactly.
He looks very French.
Max Hastings calls him slovenly.
Barbara Tuchman says he looks like Father Christmas, which he does a little bit.
So he's got a massive white moustache.
He's got a tight kind of black tunic.
He has these massive red breeches and a huge, even in hot weather, sweltering weather,
he wears this colossal cape.
So he's just kind of dripping with sweats.
So his belly that is always kind of trying to strain against the belt, I mean, this is
fueled, isn't it, by his very regular eating habits?
Exactly.
So he has got his headquarters in this little down called Vitri, and he lives with a retired engineer.
He's an engineer himself, military engineer.
So he's lodging with this bloke.
And every day at 11 o'clock, sharp, no matter what is happening, he goes back to this
lodging house for lunch.
And lunch is a sort of proper French lunch.
starter, then he'll eat a whole roast chicken, bottle of wine, all of this. And he says to his
men, nothing, nothing interferes with my routine. He refuses to take telephone calls. So President
Pankaree rings him up, I'm not going to waste my time talking to him. You know, he's nothing
like this. He hates the telephone, doesn't he? Yeah, despises it. So rather than telephone,
his subordinate officers, he will be driven there, even if it's kind of miles and miles.
through crowded roads.
In his cape.
He's got a guy who won the Grand Prix twice as his driver.
And so they hurtle along at enormous speed.
I just think it's commendably French.
So this guy's off right.
He'll arrive every morning to meet his generals and whatnot.
And he'll go in.
And sometimes he will say nothing.
Like literally nothing at all.
He just sits there and listens.
The meeting ends.
He goes off your lunch.
And he hasn't said anything, though.
whole time. And yet his men think he's brilliant. They call him Papa Jophe. You know, sort of
Papa. As we will see, he makes some pretty hideous mistakes. But there is a commendable,
he's completely imperturbable, isn't he? He's completely calm. He never loses his call. In every sense
of the word, he has bottom. He does. Yes, exactly. But the weird thing is that this bloke who doesn't
say anything and it's just stuffing his face with chicken has developed their most reckless plan. So
we alluded to this in the first episode
the Germans have the Schlieffen plan, the French
have a plan called
Prontizet, Plan 17. And it's a little bit
more straightforward than the German plan. It's basically
Yeah, to attack. Just go straight out.
Which is a Napoleonic
essence of dash and celerity, I guess.
And actually, I think we talked about this
in the very first series, about the road to the First World War.
Before the war, in the years
leading up to it, there'd been a sort of revival
of Napoleonic spirit in France.
this sort of elin.
Yeah, this new patriotism.
And the head of the war college, a man who becomes very important to the war,
is a guy called Ferdinand Foch.
And he is their great strategist, and he helps to advise this plan.
Basically, we'll pile up all our forces,
and we'll just pile across the border into Germany.
It would be brilliant.
But the reason for that is that one of the reasons that France is so militarized
and so hostile to Germany is that the Germans have taken away Alsace and Lorraine
in the wake of the Francoisian War.
And that must be fundamental to the French way of thinking.
And also, it's fundamental to the German way of thinking, isn't it?
Because the whole Schlefen plan is predicated on the fact that the French can be relied upon
the moment war is declared to go charging into Alsace and Lorraine.
Dead right.
The Germans know that basically the French will concentrate their forces on their eastern border
and try to pile across.
The Germans just need to block them and basically go around them via Belgium.
And the French plan, basically to simplify the French plan,
they will make two big thrusts.
One is straight into Alsace and Lorraine,
and the other is a little bit further north,
just south of the Ardennes Forest.
They will go through southern Belgium and Luxembourg.
However, when they make their first sort of preliminary efforts,
the omens are not promising at all.
So French dragoons ride into Belgium,
and they're immediately driven back by withering German fire.
And a cavalryman later said,
you know, we would charge and the German infantry
would just blow us away.
and this quote, this is what happened over and over again, perhaps 20 or 30 times.
It's the same story further south when the advance guard go into our Sassler Inn.
Thousands of French soldiers go in and they're immediately driven back behind the river Milt
and they're completely shocked and humiliated.
Anyway, reports of this come to Jophe and he says, well, this is tremendous news
because this shows that the Germans have concentrated their strength on their flanks
and their centre will be weak.
Because if they're so strong in these first exchanges, that means they must be weak elsewhere.
So let's go for the centre.
Come on.
This is going to be brilliant.
And to reiterate, this is what the Germans are banking on.
This is how their understanding of French psychology is very, very astute.
Yeah.
So the French launched their main assault on the 21st of August.
Three armies, the third, fourth and fifth, the French armies go onto the offensive in the Ardennes forest.
It's a complete and utter disaster.
It's a very misty day, so they can't use their reconnaissance air.
Of course, the first war in which you could even use reconnaissance aircraft at all.
So they go into the forests and they're effectively just walking towards
21 German divisions that are armed with machine guns and howitzers.
The French, going through the mist, they're wearing their long blue coats, their red trousers.
The officers are kind of got shining swords and their white-gloved hands.
They're singing the Marseillaise.
And basically, as soon as they come into view, the Germans say fire.
And their machine guns rip through these guys.
I mean, what it is, and we've used this comparison before,
of those kind of strategy games where the Aztecs end up fighting tanks.
It's a bit like that, that it's a Napoleonic army fighting an industrial early 20th century one.
Well, there's an account that won by engagement.
So this is called the Battle of the Frontiers.
There's one account that Max Hastings gives in his book Catastrophe,
basically a virtuant on the next morning, the 22nd.
So yet again, it's very misty.
The French singing their anthem and stuff
to identify themselves to each other
so they can stick together
and they won't have friendly fire.
As they're advancing,
some of the officers say to their commander,
could we possibly be a little bit more cautious?
You know, maybe not make quite such a did.
What is wrong with you?
You know, keep going.
They keep going, the fog clears
and they see that ahead is higher ground
with this huge German force ahead of them.
And they're like, quick, bring up the guns,
bring up the field guns.
They get there, they bring up the field guns.
And the commanders say to them, the field guns have these kind of shields that the gunners can hide behind while they're shooting.
And the officers say, don't bring out their shields for God's sake.
A Frenchman must look the enemy in their face.
So they don't reuse these shields.
And then the officers say, there's some German machine guns up there, you know, to the infantry.
Up and at them, lads, they fix bayonets.
The mist is cleared.
The sun has come out.
It's really hot.
Our men in full kit started running heavily up the grassy slope.
drums beating, bugles, sounding the charge, we were all shot down before we got to them.
I was hit and lay there until I was picked up later.
And this small stretch of the front, basically we're talking about a field.
5,000 men were shot down.
That's five times more than the Germans lost.
And what happened at Virton was copied in sort of little engagement all the way across the front.
So in the next couple of days, again and again, you have thousands,
thousands of Frenchmen, just advancing recklessly towards the German lines with fixed bayonets,
like they're fighting the Battle of Waterloo, walking straight into the German machine guns,
and the body is just piling and piling up. And the one statistic, the one fact that captures this,
which is just mind-blowing, is that on the second day of the offensive, the 22nd of August,
the French lost 27,000 men killed. It's the bloodiest day of the war. It's the bloodiest day of the war.
war, far bloody, half as bloody again, has the British lost on the first day of the
Somme.
And all the time, Jopha is sitting placidly having his chicken outing his lunch.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, do you know, the guy who'd really come up with the plan is Ferdinand Foch, he lost his
son, his only son and his son-in-law on the same day in this offensive.
And that's just one day.
this battle goes on for two weeks
and across the two weeks
the French lost 75,000 men killed
and 200,000 men
wounded or captured
which basically is a tenth
of their entire officer class
I mean it is one of the great
military catastrophes
and completely forgotten
essentially, certainly in Britain
I mean I'm sure not in France
but it's amazing listening to that
that the whole French army
doesn't just implode
I was thinking that's actually
I mean incredible that they
you know they'll be able to muster the
the willpower and the discipline
to continue fighting for another four years
I was just thinking about that
when I said oh this is one of the great military
catastrophes in history
but of course they win the war
so you know it can't be that much of a catastrophe
well do you I mean you you you think of
Verdana's the kind of classic example
of yeah the French refusal
to surrender to overwhelming losses
but this must rank up there as well
But you know what? I think in the English-speaking world, the French contribution to the First War is generally massively underestimated, the importance of the France in the First World War. The fact that it's fought on French soil, the French lose so many men. And places like Verdun, the sense of national mobilisation, sacrifice, I think, far greater than anything in Britain, where, of course, it's not fought on British soil at all.
Yeah, and which obviously has huge implications for France after the war, leading right the way up to the Second World War, but must also reflect the incredible insularity of British approaches to the war, I guess.
And also, I guess, is drawing on traditions that were there in the early weeks of the war where the British are all complaining that the French are hopeless and useless.
And the French, as we will see, are complaining that the British are refusing to do what they want them to do.
So this sense of mutual contempt of these two allied forces, not very promising, really.
No, no, not at all.
Well, let's move slightly further north.
So in Belgium, as we've heard, the Germans have taken Brussels, and now 600,000 men of the second and third German armies are basically sweeping south towards the French border.
And in their way, near the town of Chalua is the French Fifth Army and the little British expeditionary force, which has now just got into Belgium.
So the French and the British are outnumbered about two to one.
And the French commander is a guy called Charles Longrazac.
And he is a very interesting guy.
He actually came from Guadalupe.
And he's seen as a great sort of military intellectual.
Now, his relationship with the British is absolutely atrocious.
He knew Sir Henry Wilson.
And he once said to Sir Henry Wilson, he said,
there are only three phrases in English that anybody should ever learn.
And they are beautiful woman.
kiss me quick and beef steak and potatoes, but not all at once, presumably.
I think you could have a brilliant holiday with those three words.
And just to remind people, Henry Wilson speaks excellent French, doesn't he?
Yes, exactly.
Now, Laurentzac is a real Cassandra, as in he's right.
He has been warning his fellow French commanders for weeks that the Germans are going to come
through Belgium and they're going to come through Belgium in far greater strength than anybody thinks.
And basically nobody has listened to him
because they just think he's a massive doomster
and they, you know, who cares what this guy thinks?
And a week before the Battle of the Frontiers,
Longazek had gone to see Joffre
and he had said,
please don't send your troops into the death trap of the Ardennes.
That's his words.
And Joffre had said, no way.
Now, by the way, I forbid you to retreat
when the Germans come at you.
And Lorazac said, I left with death in my soul.
So now, a week on from that,
the 21st of August,
Lorenzac realizes, geez, I was completely right, because he hears reports that the German
second and third armies are coming right at him. The Germans capture these bridges over the
River Sambre. He tries to retake the bridges. He can't, the Germans can't be dislodged, and they
keep coming. The next day is the 22nd of August. So this is the same day that Joffrosmann
are being massacred in the Ardennes. Lorizak sends the 5th Army into the attack. He almost says,
we've got to recapture these bridges. We've got to stop the Germans from getting across.
It's a complete and utter disaster.
So there's a British liaison officer who's watching
who says they went into this salt with the utmost gallantry
as if at manoeuvres, beules blowing, drums beating, flags flying.
They were like eager children, as gay as if it were the dawn of a holiday
and they were going to march down the road to make a day of it at the local fair.
And across the valley, German artillery, machine guns,
the result is a complete and utter bloodbath.
And Lorizak's army begins to break.
So he holds out for another day.
And then by the 23rd of August, he says, you know, sod my orders.
We just have to retreat now.
The army is going to be destroyed.
And he's right about that, isn't he?
He's totally right.
So he, in a way, his retreat enables in the long run the French army to hold the Germans off.
He's really hard done by because, spoiler alert, he ends up being fired.
But actually, he was right about everything.
Anyway, his men are retreating.
Now, the British are kind of adjoining them.
And the British, of course, have been like drinking wine, kissing people at stations, you know.
Mool and Frit and all that.
Exactly.
They've been a very brilliant time.
Have they been told that the French are retreating?
No.
They haven't been told, A, that the French are retreating, or B, there are loads of Germans coming right at them.
So basically, they have no idea what's about to hit them.
No.
So by the evening of the 22nd of August, they have reached this little industrial town called Mons, which is about 20 miles west of Chalua, where Lorazac has been having his terrible sort of meltdown.
Now, they think the Germans are still way ahead of them, and they have no idea how many Germans there are.
But a few miles away in the darkness as night falls, the 160,000 men of Alexander von Klux German First Army are preparing.
to strike.
And Dominic, remind us how many men of the British Expeditionary Force are lying in their path?
There are about 80,000 outnumbered two to one.
These are the kind of odds that the British enjoy.
So unbelievable excitement.
And we will find out what happens next after the break.
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Hello, welcome back to The Rest is History.
It's the 22nd of August 1914.
And for the last 10 days, the British Expeditionary Force,
has been marching east through the fields of eastern France and Belgium.
Following, I guess you could say, you know,
they've crossed the channel in the manner that the English did under Edward III.
Henry the 5th, when English armies loved fighting against overwhelming odds.
So part of a continuum, you might say.
And Dominant, we've been hearing from Aubrey Herbert, this Balliol man turned Tory MP,
and we don't have that kind of person on Goldhanger podcast, do we?
And he wrote, the people threw open their houses, their barns and their orchards.
They could not have been kinder.
Everywhere corn was offered for our horses and wine for ourselves, but there was a great fear underlying the quiet.
So it's not total insouciance.
There is a sense of foreboding.
Oh, there definitely is.
I think as they get to Mons, which they do that afternoon, when they get to Mons, there
is this sense now, okay, the, you know, the big clash is coming.
Something is up ahead.
Now, they are, I mean, they've been marching for, what is it, 10 days or so.
So they're footsore.
They're burned by the sun.
But they're pretty confident, I think.
They know that they're excited, I think, rather than.
really apprehensive. Their officers say that evening, okay, stop here. We will hold the canal.
There's a canal that runs about 15 miles west towards the French border. This is where we'll
stop. They know that there are some Germans ahead of them. But Sir John French, their hapless
commander-in-chief, says, there are not many Germans. No, it'll be absolutely fine. They hear
that afternoon and that evening the thunder of guns away to the east, and they don't know what it is.
actually what it is, is L'Hazac's men being pushed back at Chalwa.
So leaving them exposed.
Exactly.
Nine miles away now.
So the British are now nine miles in front of the blooded and battered French army to their right.
But Sir John doesn't know this.
And air reconnaissance reports to him and says, there's a load of Germans up ahead.
And Sir John French actually says, no, that can't be right.
You must be mistaken.
which is amazing, isn't it? Because the implication is that the whole British expeditionary force could be surrounded and wiped out. I mean, the odds are very high that this is going to be their fate. Right. Exactly. So late that night, he gets another message from Longozac. Lonerzac says, you know, I'm in terrible trouble to your right. Please wheel your army to the right and come and help us out. And Sir John French, this is very much his vibe. He says, no, we're absolutely fine where we are. I like, I like.
our position where we are, actually. You look after yourself. And he goes to bed and he sleeps very
soundly and nothing, he thinks nothing could possibly go wrong. But in the night, the centuries,
the British sentries, can hear gunfire in the distance. And they're starting to get quite jittery
now. Anyway, dawn breaks on the 23rd of August. So John, of course, is staying at a chateau,
the Chateau des Arts. He's in great form when he wakes up. He says to his men, there probably
are some Germans ahead. I think they're probably only got two divisions, which would be 40,000 men.
And he says, it's nothing to worry about.
He says, here's the plan.
When the Germans come at you, I think you should do one of three things.
You could advance and fight them.
You could hold the line and stay where you are.
Or you could retreat.
Brilliant.
That covers all the bases.
And then, unbelievably, he says, I'm going to have a little tour.
And he drives off for the rest of the day.
Brilliant.
Now, actually, of course, as we said, the approaching Germans are 160,000 men of Alexander
of on Klux's first army. And at nine o'clock, they start this artillery bombardment. So there's
kind of shells raining down on the British by the canal. And then at about nine o'clock,
the Germans launched their first attacks on the bridges over the canal. So there's a bit of
the canal called the Mons Salient that boulders out to the north. Now, for many of the younger
British troops, this is their first experience of combat. And I'm delighted to report, Tom.
Do we do well? They were very well trained. They're very well equipped. The Germans actually were
so impressed by the British rate of fire. Because don't forget, rate of fire has always been
a British thing. Think about Nelson's Navy. We're very good at firing. And the Germans are
so impressed that they report back the British have machine guns, lots of machine guns, which we
didn't. We're just as good as a machine. So that's nice. But there are so many Germans that in the
hours that pass, they're fighting their way across this canal, across these bridges. And it's one
of these battles where there are basically tremendous stories of sort of boys' own heroism
on both sides. So the German, the top German, we should sort of doff our hats, the top German,
who's a guy called Oscar Niemeyer. So Oscar Niemeier had been a gardener before the war and he swam
across the canal. He got a boat. He got the boat back. He took men back and forth. And then he
managed to open this swing bridge at Nimi that allowed loads of Germans to kind of pile across
the bridge. And then he was hit and killed and he was kind of decorated after the war. And the
German said what a great man he is. And he is a great man, I suppose, but not as great as Sid Godley.
So Sidney Godley. We've had a lot of public school men in this episode. So it's nice to get
somebody who perhaps represents the great majority of British soldiers. Sid Godley was a decorator's
son from London, I think, who had worked as an ironmongery store before joining the Royal
Fusiliers. He's part of this machine gun unit defending the railway bridge at Nimi. And the first
machine gun crew were all killed. So that just leads.
two blokes, Sid and his lieutenant who's called Morris Dees to take it over.
Then Morris Dees is shot as well and the order comes to retreat for everybody else to
retreat across the bridge but somebody has to cover them. And Sid Godley says, oh, I'll do it.
And Dominic has a top historian of the First World War perhaps written about what then
happens in amazing prose? In an amazingly moving and I think profound way, no?
Shall I read it? Do read it. I'd love that. For two,
hours, Sidney stayed at his post, his aching finger pressed on the trigger, giving his
friends time to escape. All the time the German shells rained down, showering him with
dirt and shrapnel, but he never faltered. One metal fragment flew into his back, another
into his shoulder, a bullet punched into his thigh. Then he felt a blinding pain in his
head as another bullet thudded into his skull. Still, Sidney refused to give up, blazing away
at the advancing grey ranks.
And that is from your adventures in time
on the First World War,
a thrilling read, and godness.
I mean, it makes you proud to be British,
doesn't it, to hear that?
When I go to primary schools
and people say, tell us an inspiring story
and you can see the school head
thinks, please, Lelope Rosa Parks.
And actually, it's godly killing Germans.
That's what the kids want.
Anyway, he's captured by the German.
he's taken to a POW camp near Berlin
and then everybody behaves splendidly
because he's given the Victoria Cross
the Germans find out about it
the people running the camp
organised a special dinner
with Sid as the guest of honour
and the commandant came up and said
well done and shook his hand
and basically
Oh lump in the throat
so I mean huge kudos to Sydney Godley
I mean he's done very well
but it has to be said
that actually
the reason that the British get away is not Sid
it's the fact that ghostly archers from the Battle of Agincourt come to their rescue at this point
and that's that's actually what happens so that's why I gave a little taster of the
you know the 100 years war that that's that's actual historical fact isn't it
Dominic yeah they're basically ghostly archers returned from the dead to help their
British friends in their hour of need to help their descendants.
And yeah, that this is a sign, obviously, that God was on Britain's side and that the spirit
world was on Britain's side.
And this becomes a massive story in the course of the war, the Angels and Mons, the idea
of these sort of ghostly intervention.
And Tom, do we have a special episode prepared for members of the Restis History Club on this
very subject?
We do, because obviously this is, as I said, this is the turning point of the entire First World
War.
to give it all the attention that it merits. And there will be a special bonus for club members
on this coming out next week. And we'll be saying, you know, were they real? If they were,
what were they? If they weren't, well, how on earth did people end up thinking all this? And it's
an amazingly interesting story. Is there any way that just quickly, before we get back to the story,
that people who want to hear that episode but are not members of the rest of history club,
how could they, how could they get to hear it? There is Dominic. They could go to this website,
and you just type in the rest is history.com
and then you kind of click your mouse
and it'll take you there and it's amazing.
That's brilliant, Tom.
And the great thing about all this
is that nobody minds the narrative
being interrupted for advertising in this way.
Right, okay, so let's crack on.
Theo's gesturing wildly in the background, flailing around.
So actually, to get back to Earth,
to the Battle of Mons,
the British Expeditionary Force actually did do really well.
They ended up being outnumbered more than three to one.
They lost 1,600 men killed, wounded and taken prisoner,
but by holding out, they had prevented von Kluck from outflanking and encircling the French.
And the Germans were very impressed by how the British fought.
So every single book on this battle mentions a quotation from a Brandenburg officer called Walter Bloom,
whose battalion had suffered heavy losses.
And he said, it was a bad defeat.
There can be no gain saying it.
We were badly beaten.
And by the English, by the English that we'd laughed at a few hours before,
What are they doing, laughing with the English?
But the Germans aren't actually defeated, are they?
Because the British do have to withdraw, because if they don't withdraw, then they would be cut off.
Exactly.
So they do have to withdraw.
Now, Sir John French, right, who's gone on a nice drive that day, who's been so confident up to this point.
At this point, he completely loses the plot.
So having been madly overconfident before, he now sinks into total and utter gloom.
At one o'clock that night, he says, okay, like, we've lost.
like keep retreating
don't stop retreating
actually let's go straight back to Amiens
and if necessary we'll go from there to the ports
and go home and this is the big French
worry all the time isn't it that the British
will kind of scuttle off and leave
them in the lurch well because by
now the French too have realised
that something has to change and they are now
going back as well so the same
day so this is the day
after the Battle of Montes General
Geoff goes to a meeting in Paris
and he says to the war minister
France's strategy has completely and utterly failed.
We must abandon all talk of attacking and we must retreat.
Basically what we have to do now is to sort of hold on as long as we can
and then we might be able to resume the offensive one day,
but we'll have to rest and re-equip first.
And Paris is the key.
Yes.
They've got to keep Paris from falling.
They've got to, exactly.
So they're falling back towards Paris.
So retreating for any army,
it's obviously the most depressing thing you can do,
but it's also the most dangerous thing you can do
because the terror is that you will lose all your discipline and cohesion.
And within a day of the retreat, so by about the 25th of August,
at least one British officer is seriously worried that his units are going to fall apart,
that the Germans are going to overwhelm them and destroy them.
And this is another terrific character.
He's called Sir Horace Smith Dorian.
So he's the commander of number two corps, which is about half of the BEF.
And he, I mean, he's had an amazing life, sort of flashman-esque life.
He was one of a handful of men who had survived the terrible British defeat by the Zulus at his sandalwana in 1879.
He'd been a comrade of great friend of the rest of his history, General Gordon.
He fought against the Mardi in the Sudan in the last battle where the British ever wore red coats.
He fought to Ombudsman against the Khalifa.
He was in the Boer War.
What a life.
And at Ombudsman had been commanded by General Kitchener.
And Smith Dorian is a great friend of Kitchener, isn't he?
And should we just mention at this point that Kitchener, this, you know, he's got the definitive British moustache.
He's been appointed Secretary of State for War.
And he hates French and French hates Kitchener.
So this is all adding to the mix.
Because Kitchener had said, don't go to Belgium.
Stay in Amiens.
You know, if you go to Belgium, you'll just be forced back.
and Kitchener had been right, and so obviously French hates him all the more for having been right.
Exactly. And Smith Dorian has no time.
It's John French. He despises him as a woman. He famously once said to him,
too many whores around your headquarters field marshal.
Basically, it's all about French's mistresses. And actually, before the war,
Smith Dorian was invited to speak to, of course, the public school officer's training corps.
And he said to them, war should be avoided at all costs.
War would solve nothing. The whole of Europe would be reduced to ruin.
And his public school audience were appalled by this, absolutely appalled and complained afterwards.
But, of course, he was quite, he was right.
Anyway, late on the 25th of August, Smith-Dorien's men reached a place called Le Cateau,
which is just inside the French border.
The home of Matisse.
No way, really.
Good fact.
Very good fact.
They're exhausted.
They're hungry.
They're really miserable.
And he thinks, we can't go on.
You know, if we try to keep retreating, the Germans will overtake us and destroy us.
And overnight, he consulted his senior officers.
One of the key voices is a man called Edmund Allenby,
who goes on to be the conqueror of Jerusalem and of Damascus.
And Alan B says, my horsemen, my cavalry, can't go on.
The horses can't go on.
Basically, either we stand on fire here, or the Germans will overtake us.
And there's a silence, and then Smith Dorian says, of course,
very well, gentlemen, we shall fight.
Now, there's a comic element to this.
Most of the other British officers are kind of a state.
in a funk.
So of five o'clock in the morning, the news comes that Smith Dorian wants to fight.
And the British chief of staff, Sir Archibald Murray, who's with the kind of French's headquarters,
he hears this and he has a fainting fit and collapses at the thought of Smith Dorian wanting to fight.
And somebody calls for a doctor, and another man there, who of course is called Fido Childs,
shouts out, don't call a doctor.
I have a pint of champagne.
and pours this pint of champagne into Sir Archibald Murray to revive him.
This is a tremendous behaviour.
So that's been going on overnight.
Morning comes, Sir John French goes off to talk to Joffre,
and they meet in this darkened room.
Obviously, neither of them speaks the other's language,
so everything has to be translated,
so it takes a week for the meetings that happen.
Jophe says, I think you should counter-attack.
French says, no, no, no, we're going to keep retreating.
And the mood is completely funereal.
So the liaison officer was called Edward Spears said,
everyone's spoken in an undertone as if there were a corpse in the next room.
The sense of doom was as evident as when a jury is about to return a verdict of guilty on a capital charge.
I mean, who's right there?
Presumably French is right.
French is actually right, yeah.
Geoffrey's mad to think about trying to attack.
I mean, Smith Dorian is not trying to attack.
He's just trying to kind of hold the – stop here, hold the Germans off for a bit, hold the line, and then we can carry on retreating.
And this is what he does at La Cateau.
And Le Cato is probably the last Napoleonic battle in history, maybe.
know. So there are columns of troops. There are people on horseback. There's kind of horse drawn artillery.
Yeah, Dominic, just to say, just to say, because we've talked about horses quite a lot, this is a terrible time to be a horse, isn't it?
Yes.
Because they're all kinds of lunatic cavalry charges where horses just get wiped out.
The French and the Germans both are very given to flogging their horses so that they just collapse.
So anyone who's read the Michael Mopperga book or seen the drama of War Horse, I mean, it's based on horrendous cruelty to horses.
And we should remember them as well as all the men who die in this conflict.
So actually in this battle, the British fight incredibly well.
They're holding out against overwhelming odds.
they all behave splendidly.
They have to retreat eventually
and they have to get their guns out under fire
so that means men on horses getting them out.
Three men get Victoria crosses,
a guy called Douglas Reynolds, who's a captain,
and two drivers called Frederick Luke
and the excellently named Job Drain,
who's 18.
And there's actually a statue of Job Drain in Barking.
Is there?
Yeah, there is.
You can Google it.
Oh, wonderful.
He's obviously a tremendous fellow.
So, at Le Cato, the British lost more men than they lost on the first day of D-Day, would you believe?
Good news.
Now, it's a German victory.
If you look on Wikipedia, Wikipedia says it's a German victory.
But is it?
Because actually the British have done two things.
First of all, Smith Doran has given the rest of the British expeditionary force time to get away.
And the Germans are now never going to catch up with them.
And secondly, every day the Germans lose is vital to them.
They had six weeks.
They're already in week three.
So every day the British delay them or the French delayed them
makes it much harder for Malka's plan to work.
So actually a lot of military historians say,
sure, the British are going backwards
and it looks like a German victory.
But strategically, in the sort of long-term picture,
it's kind of a win for the B.EF.
A victory for British pluck.
Hurrah.
Well, anyway, now the Great Retreat is on.
So, you know, Smith Dorian, when he described the Great Retreat,
said, oh, it's absolutely splendid.
Everyone was like walking away from a race meeting.
Everyone's smoking their pipes and chatting.
This is like complete romantic self-delusion.
Actually, they're marching 200 miles in 11 days.
They're sleeping about four hours a night.
They are absolutely shattered.
The roads are strewn with abandoned wagons, with dead horses.
They're kind of basically sleepwalking by the end, aren't they?
Kept awake by the pain from their blisters.
They're really footsore.
They're passing refugees.
People who had cheered them.
as they went one way, and now are glaring at them as they go the other, because they basically
feel they're abandoning them. Morale is terrible. They've all got terrible diarrhea. They're all
massively sunburnt. None of them have any idea where they are. There's no sense of a plan.
Gunner Sergeant William Edgington on the 26th. He says, we're all feeling very much the want
of sleep, no rations, all very much depressed owing to the total absence of any information.
We appear to be simply driven blindly back. And Dominic, do they blame
their own inadequacies?
Or do they blame the French?
Of course they blame the French.
Of course they blame the French.
Captain James Harbour.
The damned French army never appears at all.
There's been a bad strategy somewhere.
Grenadier, Guy, Harcourt, Vernon.
Personally, I don't believe the French are properly mobilised.
Whatever happens, the British army has done its duty.
For the last week we've been fighting alone,
I somebody can't believe in these Frenchmen.
Basically, they really wanted to have been fighting the French.
They're disappointed that they're not.
And when it goes wrong, they blame
the French instead. So now Sir John French, ironically, of course, doesn't like the French.
He's now lost 15,000 men one way or another, which is tiny compared with the French losses.
But if you've only got 80,000 men, you can't keep losing 15,000 a week and you went up an army left.
And he writes to Joff at the end of August, and he says, we're not going to be in the front line.
You know, don't expect to see us in the front line anytime soon. We're going to have to rest for at least 10 days.
And in the same day, in his diary, he says, I have decided to retire behind the Sen
to the west of Paris in the neighbourhood of Saint-Germain.
Now, this is an incredible moment.
Sir John French is talking about pulling the British army back behind Paris, effectively abandoning
Paris to the Germans.
And the next day, he sends a telegram to London, and he says, I'm washing my hands now
of collaboration with the French.
I don't see why I should again be called upon to run the risk of absolute disaster
in order a second time to save them.
So Max Hastings calls Sir John French a poltroon.
Do you think that's, would you agree with that?
Of course he does.
I think he is a bit of a poultry, to be honest with you.
I mean, personally, I'd have been one of those people who said, don't send an army at all.
Let the French look after themselves.
Let's just rely on our splendid navy.
But once you've gone there.
I think once you've gone there, you've got to make an effort.
You can't just go, dip your toes in the water and then say, okay, fine, I'm out of here.
Because the angels of remandes haven't appeared to allow him to scuttle off back to Dover.
No, for nothing, precisely.
Now, so the question now is, and we will pick this up in the next episode,
What does London think?
I'm happy to say that the great friend of the rest of his history, Herbert Henry Asquith,
has been managing the war at admirable unconcern and general insoucients.
So while everybody's been fighting, Asquith, Asquith, he's still been having country house weekends.
So he spent one weekend, he went down to Kent.
On the way, the man in charge of running the war noticed another driver had broken down.
And he gave him a lift to the garage.
Then on the way back, he saw some children from South London who'd been a holiday in Margate.
And he said, oh, would you like me to give you a lift back to London?
He gave them a lift as well.
And then when he's actually doing any work, to quote Max Hastings,
again. Ask with treated vital
strategic issues, as
if we were discussing the tiresome
inability of some guests to attend
a garden party.
Now, the cabinet
have been discussing, are they
going to pull out the British expeditionary
force via Dunkirk?
But so far, they've said no.
And now that Sir John French has sent this message,
they have a crucial decision to make.
They have his telegram.
Are they going to let him wash his hands
of the whole campaign? So we'll
pick up, we'll find out what happens in the next episode. But while they are deliberating 31st
of August, the news is at last filtering through to the British public. So wartime censorship
means that no one knows about this until now. There have been little hints. People writing in
their diaries saying, I'm hearing reports of thousands of casualties, all of this. On the 29th,
the Times had said, for the first time, the situation in France is very grave. And then on the 31st,
the same day that Sir John French's telegram reaches London, the Times published a special edition
with a report by its war correspondent Arthur Moore. And he wrote in this, this is a bombshell for the
British public. It's important that the nation should now realize certain things, bitter truths,
but we can face them. We have to cut our losses, take stock, set our teeth. To sum up,
the first great German effort has succeeded. We have to face the fact, the British expeditionary
force, which bore the great weight of the blow, has suffered terrible losses and requires
immediate and immense reinforcement.
Domina, just to mention, this is the report that plays a crucial role in inspiring the story
of the Angels of Mons.
Oh, that's interesting.
Right.
Well, if you think the mood is bleak in London, it is even worse in Paris.
The French capital, when the war had been declared, the mood had been one of great confidence.
They'd looked forward to regaining Alsace and Lorraine.
But now Paris is a city at bay.
On the 28th of August, for the first time the French government issued a statement and they said,
we can confirm there is fighting deep inside France from the Somme to the Vosges.
And when they said that, the public were stunned.
They thought the fighting was all in Belgium.
They couldn't believe it when the French government said, it's actually deep inside France.
And then two days later, the first German monoplane flew.
over Paris and dropped five little bombs on Paris.
Now, by this point, all public buildings in Paris have been closed.
Well, the theatres have closed.
Most of the shops are shut because there are, you know, so many staff are away at the front.
There are thousands of refugees at the railway stations.
The roads are blocked with traffic, and people have started building barricades at the entrances
to Paris.
It's like, sort of, yeah, it's like 1792 or 1793 or something.
The same day, so now the 30th, the first report that the government is preparing to flee south to Bordeaux.
They're going to take with them the gold reserves of the Bonc de France.
They're going to take all the masterpieces from the city's art galleries and museums.
And at the British embassy, the staff are now burning their confidential papers.
Because in just a few days, the Germans will be at the gates of Paris and the fall of France is at hand.
Or is it?
We will find out next time.
And if you want to hear that episode right now,
then you can join our very own Expeditionary Force,
The Rest is History Club, at the rest is history.com.
And not only will you be able to hear that episode
and all the episodes in this series,
you will also be able to hear us discuss the Angels of Mons,
the archers from Agincourt,
or perhaps they were literally,
angels who came to the rescue of the British Expeditionary Force and changed the course of history.
So we'll maybe see you for that.
And if you don't want to sign up to that, that's fine.
We will be releasing the next episodes over the next couple of weeks.
So either way, lots more First World War action to come.
Bye-bye.
Cheerio.