The Rewatchables - A Rewatchables Summer Mailbag!

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck open up the listener mailbag and debate new category ideas, unanswerable questions, and more. Producers: Craig Horlbeck, Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Matt Pevic The Ringer is committed to responsible trading. Please visit https://www.fanduel.com/predicts to learn more about the resources and helpline. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Craig Horlebecks here, our producer, sometimes on the pod. Chris Ryan, CR, the legend. I gave you no prep at all. None. We have some listener mailbag questions. Do you like when the no prep happens

or you want the prep? If you want us to provide a list, sometimes it's nice, but otherwise, no, we can go, you can improvise it. Okay. This is from Gerard. I want to nominate a new rewatchables category. The Danny McBride Award for Best Character Entrance. Within a minute, you understand exactly who this guy is,

why he's a problem and why the movie went up a level. The criteria, the immediate, oh, hell yeah, for, oh, no reaction. You cannot look away. You know, everything you need to know about the character. Instantly alerts you that you may have a who won the movie or D.N. Waiters Award contender on your hands. David Bride has been a category name before. Yeah, he already has a category, but I don't mind this.

This is based on his introduction to this is the end, right? Well, I was thinking we just did Animal House and Bluto the first time you see him is a good intro. But there's really as an art to the entrance. Or yeah, like Will Ferrell and Wedding Crashers coming down the stairs. I would say Alec Baldwin and Glenn Gary is another one. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's some life to this one.

The best entrance, but I think we already have a McBride category, so I could either move it or come up a different entrance. Like, what does Mason Miller walk out to? Is it corn? It is corn. Yeah. Oh, like the Marron Rivera enters Sandman for Best Entrance. Some Q enters Sandman, the closer is here.

Yeah, that's pretty good. I had a couple ones that I liked from over the years that I just, the iconic ones from my favorite movies. Reggie Hammond, first time he's seen in 48 hours. He's singing police. Todd Parker in Boogie Nights. When he comes into the party and I forget what's on there playing

but it does like the zoom in on him and it's like, Todd, Parker. And then Lester Banks was the other great one and almost famous. The first time he's doing Iggy Pop. Amen. Really hard to just come in 25, 30 minutes into a movie

and just take it over. When does Lecter show up in Silas? That's another group of half an hour in, Yeah, Lector. 25 minutes in? I think this is a category. Yeah, it's good. It's at least a flex.

This is from Michael and Louisville. Love the pod. I'm getting married this fall. My wife asked that we have our childhood priest perform the ceremony. Imagine my surprise when I found out that this man was none other than Father Wayne Jenkins. That's his name. His name is Wayne Jenkins. And then he writes in all caps.

Damn. I didn't know how I was dealing with Super Priest. we are going to be experiencing the joys of the sacrament for a long fucking time, big boy. I didn't know we had fucking Damian Garris over here. That's a good fucking priest work right there. Wayne is like the actual Wayne, I think, is up for parole soon. Oh, really?

He's in jail, yeah. Father Wayne Jenkins. Is that a good or a bad sign for the wedding? I think it's great. They're going to have a happy marriage. Congratulations, also. I hope at least five people attending the wedding. or making Wayne Jenkins shows.

Yeah, it would be great if, like, does anyone have any, like, reason why these two should not be wet? And they're like, God damn! I didn't know we were asking for approval! Oh, man, a motherfucker frickin' brick! This is from Pete D. He listens to all the rewatchable pods,

thinks there's some trends that have emerged, including, he says, one of my favorites is the periodic discussion about renaming Dion Waiters. This comes up a few times a year when a Dionne candidate it has an especially strong performance. Oh, and it's like we could rename this after.

Walking and Paul, Baldwin, Glengarry, Hartman, and so I married an ex-murderer. And then he writes, the discussion always goes something like this. Bill, maybe we should think about renaming the award after Character X? Everyone else. Character X was great,

but I don't think we can rename it. There's something about Dion. Bill, okay, I guess we'll keep it as the Dion Award. Then about three months later, the exact same discussion occurs. In order of this, I suggest a new conditional award called the We May Need to rename the Dion Waiters Award.

No, never mind. For an actor who gives such a great performance, the rewatchables team pretends to reconsider an award then decides against it. That's good. It's a higher level than the typical Dion. Reserve for only epic Dion performances. He keeps going.

It's like you're a Dion Wader's Pro Bowler. Yeah, it's like maybe you've been deonned before. Like, you've done too many... Like, Walking is Dion in multiple films, I think. Sure. He's like that in romance. He's like that in Pol.

It's like a nomination. Pete D. says, you could call it the Dion Plus Award in homage to Kendall Roy's ingenious Land Cruises pitch. Yeah. But that was good. The Dion Plus? I like that. It sounds like we're spinning it off into, I don't know.

I'm going to check in on Dion. He's somebody who I imagine would have had a podcast by now. Yeah. Where is he? I don't know. Terence Ross is breaking down videos. Like, where's Deon? Frank M writes in

Hey gang I think Craig gets hottest take By saying you can cut the hitchhiker scene And there's something about Mary Sometimes he needs a shock collar I checked with HR And we can't give you a shock collar I also think this is a good opportunity

For you to be like I don't think The Horlebeck scale Is representative of you as a film fan I want to address this I think we should retire The Horlebeck scale Because the purpose of

the category is not to criticize good long movies. It's to celebrate good short movies. Yes. If I like a movie that's two hours and 15 minutes, I don't want to have to feel forced to... Wow, it's just like he's been taking shit for this. To rip a scene out of it. It's just like...

That's not the goal. I think you could... It's to appreciate a short movie. You should chime in when it's in the Horlbeck Hall of Fame. Sure. Yeah. We forgot to do it for Animal House. Yeah, I mean...

What was Animal House? Like an hour... Hour 45. But yeah, it's like if we're doing Dunkirk, I'm not going to be like, yeah, you can cut the hearty stuff. It's not the point of the... Do we really need to be flying around?

Yeah. Do you want to retire the Horlebeck scale? It's like if something about Mary's two hours and ten minutes, but I like the movie, I don't think it's in the spirit of the category for me to feel like I got to remove a scene. Yeah. However, I do think like seven-minute abs, eight-minute abs,

not the funniest joke in the world. I thought it was fucking hilarious. Really hot takes. Colin Kay writes in, he's been thinking about Apex Mountain. Yeah. And he decided most of the first of, cities have a respective apex mountain

then that becomes the spiritual defining thing they're chasing. Like Chicago just wants it to be the mid 90s again so badly. Oh, like temporal apex mountain. So he listed a bunch of cities with what he thinks their apex mountain is. Okay. San Francisco, he said,

2016. Well, it's not 2016. Okay, but like this... They lost. It'd be 2015. It's like 17 or 15. Wait, he's talking about like tech or is he talking about what it looks like in the movies? I'm just reading you what he said. Okay, because, I mean,

so I can't be right out of the gate with San Francisco. But I like, there's a crumb here where it's like, it's a kernel of saying like, actually Apex Mountain

San Francisco would be late 70s, early 80s, right? So that would have, my argument would have been late 70s. Like, post-30 Harry.

Bullet. Yeah, and we're heading into It's just cool there. It's just cool there. It's just cool there. It's just cool there. But I guess you could make a case,

like as Steph and the Warriors are taking off with the tech boom and the prices. Yeah, I mean, it might not have been the best, like San Francisco itself might not have been at its best. Basic instinct is probably the happy medium between the two. For me, it's 90s, San Francisco.

We talked about that in basic instinct. I thought mid-90s San Francisco was lights out. Yeah. Like, I would present that. You also can't say 2015-20s, because it wasn't even in San Francisco. The Warriors played at Oracle. Yeah. All right, so he's 0 for one.

Boston, 2004, I actually agree with this. Because it's socks. Sox, Patriots in Full Bloom. Feeder pitch. Big Dig is done. Yeah. So we have... Big Ding took 10 fucking years, finished.

The city was transformed. It just all of a sudden... And of course, I had moved by then. And every time I came back, I was like, how the fuck did we leave, right, before all this stuff happened? Big Ding is done so Gem can get back and forth from Charleston.

Right. They never are able to escape that North End robbery. He has New York City 1998. I don't know how I came up with that one. 98. It's interesting. Pre-9-11. Yankees going.

Strong. Nick's still in the mix. I personally would have gone mid-90s for New York for a variety of reasons with the sports and just... SNL's in a decent spot in the late 90s? Sure. I mean, I like early 2000s just because of the music. But you can't be 9-11 at that point.

I know. That can't be Apex Mountain. I'm not saying it's Apex Mountain for like actual stuff. I just mean like... And that's also what I was there, you know? So I would say late 7th. for New York. Warriors? All the shit that was going.

Yeah. Warriors. But you had S&L and full bloom. They're making all kinds of awesome movies there. The music scene has taken off. Ridiculous. It's the center of the porn industry. Sure.

Professional wrestling. We haven't moved west with our adult entertainment. Yeah. I just feel like even though I was a little scummy and grimy in New York, it was just crushing it. Yeah. Pre-Trump. Get a cab.

Travis Bickles, your driver. Yeah. You know? I have no notes on that. That makes sense. It would be somewhere in the second Jordan. I spent some time there in 98. Everybody was super happy.

Seattle, 1993, he says. I like it. Beginning of the Grunge. Sean Kemp. Sonics are still there. Campbell Scott designing a super train. Ken Griffey's about to show up. Early tech rumblings.

Yeah. I'll say Philly for last. He is Pittsburgh as 1975. Just pro-steward. Sure. The two most interesting ones, he had Los Angeles, 1995. Isn't that like L.A. Confidential? Yeah, I thought that was, I don't know why he had that.

I would have said mid-80s for L.A. Like with Hollywood. Yeah, I was going to say like, Lakers. People moving here. It was like the coolest place there. And then he has 1983 for Philly. Well, that's Sixers. Phillies go to the World Series.

Rocky Balboa. Right. The Phillies have just won. Well, they won an 80, but they lost. the Orioles in 83. But you're in the middle of your Phillies run. Eagles were in the Super Bowl. Flyers good then.

It's after Broad Street Bullies, isn't it? Yeah. Sure. Rocky 3 is out. Big 5 basketball popping off. See, yeah, I was in kindergarten, so I don't like have a picture perfect memory. 83 seemed good.

I had a couple ads. Hartford, 1988. ESPN's there starting to take off and they still have the whale. The whalers. Oh, my God. And then I was trying to think the Apex Mountain for Vegas. And I think it's late 90s.

Yeah, that's, that's always true. Before it became commercialized, when it was still, there was a little bit underground. I would have loved to be there, like, the Mo Green era that would have been good. Oh, yeah. Spangin cocktail wait just too at the time. A Mo Green! I'm excited for feedback on that. And then to get...

We have to ask what, like, so he's saying it's like the actual... Just like where people, because the reason it resonated with me... Like, if you could choose a year to live in the city, what year would it be? I would love to live in Milwaukee during, like, the... Robin Yount era. Not the Dahmer era. No. No.

But it seemed like pony bottles of Miller were everywhere, you know? Because Boston definitely was 2004. That was the single year you would have wanted to live in Boston. Chris Arrington wants to know. Is there a movie you haven't done yet for rewatchables because it's so un-PC you worry about backlash and who would you want as co-hosts on that pod? So really Soul Man is Apex Mountain for this one. but I'm not against doing it.

Blazing Saddles would be, I think, really hard to do. I don't know. I mean, Blazny's Talos is on Turner Classic Movies last night. Like, it's still, I think, regarded very well. What about Revenge of the Nerds? That was the other one I had. But I would do all three of those. So I don't feel like there is an MPC.

You'd have to go into, like... I mean, it's incredibly difficult to talk about Woody Allen's filmography and not address, like, the elephant in the room with him. And I think a lot of those movies, like, are hard to talk about, but I still really love Annie Hall. Like, I love to do Annie Hall on... There's a couple, like, the... A couple of dark movies that probably aren't rewatchables,

but like that Monica Balucci movie and shit like that. We would never do. We would never do that. Requiem for a dream. Most rewatchable. This is a great one. Mike L. wrote this. My 72nd rewatch of Fargo gave me an idea.

Do Peter Stormore's film TV characters have the weirdest resume of any actor in history? these are some of the things his characters have done. Murdered Steve Bouchemy with an axe and stuffed him in a woodchopper. Eaton by a dinosaur, got his ear bitten off by John Goodman, helped Bruce Willis save the world from an asteroid,

swapped out Tom Cruise's eyeballs, directed multiple actual snuff films, and helped George Costanza move to Frogger without losing his high score. Can any actor challenge this? We don't have that anymore, you know? No one's doing stuff like that. Honestly, incredible.

Incredible. Even without the snuff film, he still probably has the best one. I'm going to start thinking about this when we do especially 90s movies where I'm like, you know, like this guy's been in 13, like what were his jobs? Right. Yeah. I want to find out like what Cole Meaney did besides being con air, you know. Oh, that's a good one. I had Madsen sliced off the ear and reservoir dogs of the cop.

He buried the bride alive and kill Bill. He unleashed a black mamba snake. and kill Bill 2. He killed the horny hot female alien in species, and he beat up people with the baseball bat in Brasco. Pretty good resume. Not even close to Stormar.

Kind of one note, though. Stormar's really riding all over the place. Stormar's replacing eyeballs. He's directing stuff films. He's woodchipping people to death. Because it's like the not quite leading man but can be in every kind of movie as a side character. And it's got to be something creative.

Like Cruz is just the best at everything he does. Like best bartender, best pilot, best sports. by that was pretty good david foster probably not the songwriter writes in um given the rewatchables often features movies frequently aired on tv back in the day i'd like to suggest the new flex category entitled the breakfast club real long inspection award alternatively the diehard to yippie kye mr falcon award alternatively the big labowski find a stranger in the ops award for did this movie have an epic profanity replacement when aired on TV.

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And it's also like mountains of cocaine. Did they actually show him doing it on the TV? I think they cut it. I don't know if you have a favorite profanity replacement. I'll just say this is a dying art. You know, like there's not a lot of there's not a lot of like basic cable movie

that show things that are actually racy at all. It's always like... No. My memory of this is actually like just like listening to the radio in my car and they have to like bleep out Eminem or something. Oh like all a 50 cent. Yeah. Right. Robert Calvin writes in after listening to the Tropic Thunder episode

I think there should be an occasional category called the Joel Anderson I prefer Welcome Home Roscoe Jenkins Award for Is This Movie Still Rewatchable? That was amazing. Joel roping up us. He said he loved Tropic Thunder and then turned out he didn't.

I still kind of enjoyed having that energy in a pod. In the pod where I think the three of us all like just sort of recede the platform to Joel. Yeah, we gave up. Kyle Potter. Craig, you're going to love this one. New Flex category. The Michael Sarah

fucking pale, 110 pounds, hairless, probably has a huge cock, coked out of his mind award, for excellence in portraying a fictionalized version of oneself. Oh, yeah. So it's basically like a self-de-on waiters. Yeah.

He votes for Keanu Reeves and always be my maybe, John Malkovich and be John Malkovich, and Neil Patrick Harris, and Harold and Kumar. That's great. And then said it could be extended to fictionalized portrayals of others like... It's like actors willing to subvert their reputation in movies. So he suggested Anna Farris

taking down Cameron Diaz and Lost in Transation could be adjacent. Okay. I like the playing yourself. Do you like the... I wonder if Julia Roberts in Oceans 12 pretending to be Julia Roberts actually counts.

It's like Bob Sagat and Entourage pretending to be like the biggest asshole in the world. So I had Kareem and Airplane. Eminem and funny people is a good one. I thought everybody loved Raymond. Bob Barker and Happy Gilmore, Lance Armstrong, Dodgeball. Julie Roberts,

Malcovic, and then Johnny Chan and Rounders is a good one. Barker's a really good one. Sorry, John. I don't remember. I think that could be added to the flex, though. I like it. 110 pounds soaking wet,

probably has a huge cock. Sean Donnelly writes, you guys were talking about making a dramatic version of There's Something About Mary. There kind of already is one. The 1984 neo-noirre film against all odds. In it, L.A. Outlaws wide receiver

Jeff Bridges, gangster James Woods, and Outlaws Coach Alex Caras are all obsessed with the stunning Rachel Ward and drop everything to travel to Mexico to win her. Did you say L.A. Outlaw wide receiver Jeff Bridges? Oh, Craig. This movie's amazing. Well, this is also where the Phil Collins song

comes, right? Oh, yeah. This has one of the great car chases. Bridges plays like a washed-up receiver. But yeah, these three people... Against all odds. He says it's a sports film, but I feel like the Farley brothers were aware of it.

That's pretty interesting. It does get a little, there's something about Marriott. Yeah. They're all, like, obsessed with her. Yeah. I hadn't even thought about that movie in a long time.

It's great. It was on a long time. It's not good. I may never have actually seen the movie. It's just that in the music video for against all odds. It's just footage from the movie, and it's the whole story of the film.

Rachel Ward. There's a good car chase in that movie, right? Really good car chase. Rachel Ward's thrown 102. I don't know Rachel Ward. What is Rachel Ward from? You should get to know her, correct?

Okay. Is that Taylor Hackford? Yeah. Okay. Mike from Western Mass said at the end of Dave, movie that I'm ready to do to read Dave. Okay. I really love that movie.

When did you do Dave? Long time ago. Dobbins? Yeah, years ago. He says at the end, this is inside for people who love this movie, but how is Dwayne, the Ving Rames character,

not wearing a sweater vest in the last shot. Because there's a kitchen scene in the White House when Dave and Bing Rames are kind of, they're talking, they're eating a sandwich, and he says, she wear a sweater vest. They look good on you. And Ving Rames's like,

really? And he's like, you could have brought that around. So he says that's a new category. The Dwayne Stevenson sweater vest missed opportunity award for a very small choice that would have made the movie better.

I'm going to veto this, but I like the spirit of it. You like, why do you just because you're like, I just think it would be too hard. Yeah. had to figure out. But I like the idea of it. It really would have been a good idea if it had a sweater vest.

It's like loose threads. It's like you shouldn't tie to knot on that one. Blair Symes from Chicago says the rewatchable is my favorite pod and the species episode is one of the best. All-timer. What about the species word for the thing no one notices or questions during the first view of viewings but then you see it and can't unsee it? So he says for him, it goes to the supposed evil alien plot to take over the world

by breeding aliens with humans. How is this supposed to work? He says, Natasha Hentridge is half alien, but her kid would be quarter alien, then it would be eighth alien and so on. Eventually, human DNA is going to water down the alien DNA,

and you won't notice it. Humans down the road will just end up being 3% alien on their 23 and me tests, like they're 3% Irish. Plus, didn't those aliens send us to secret to unlimited energy as well as their DNA, they were good dudes? It's a decent point.

Yeah. I don't know if the DNA would be strong enough that it wouldn't get watered down, you know? Well, there's also the henstridge is going around killing guys who are diabetic. You know, like, it's like you basically like winnow down to like most, most human beings have some frailty, some flaw with them. So then you're just talking about her breeding with like six guys after a while. I like the idea.

I was trying to think of other examples where when you've seen a movie too many times and then you realize a plot has just been completely ruined, which basically is what's aged the worst or picking nits for us, but that's a good one. It was the bad plan by the aliens. Yeah, it's like there should be a special like, especially for ones that are like big

movies for us, like the thing I noticed on the 12th viewing of this movie, you know? Well, and it's like, why can't the aliens just come down to Earth in their natural form and just kill all the humans? Yeah, that could have been another move. Right, right. Why do they need to look like a human and seduce a human? It's like, couldn't

they just kill them, zap them? Yeah. Sounds that Lams is a good one for this When they just have Lector at the top floor With like one security guard And he's also a brainium pork shot lamb chops and stuff Yeah and he asked for a second dinner And like boy that's weird Like you see that enough times

What's the one we have for heat for this? I mean there's a lot of things in heat Where it's like Does this guy who's so disciplined really go back for Wingrow? You know what I mean? He's like so free Yeah He's at the airport.

Mike Kaiser says that we missed a huge plot point and No Way Out. I'm glad people are listening to the library. Oh, I really likes No Way Out. I'd like to suggest you guys brand the did this movie need a better ending category and make it the Tom Farrell single-handly lost the Cold War Award. Oh, yeah. Which, Costner, when Gene Hackman's character, it's like, I'll give you anything you want.

Why not just be like, Oh, I control the defense secretary now. I own Gene Hackman. And then that could be the sequel. He just felt like he blew the opportunity. I'm going to keep an eye on this. I don't know if it's a category, but I do like, like, yeah,

he actually would have been better off just being like, oh, this is actually better from Cold War leverage. Controlling it, yeah, the sequel, one way out. Jason Peters says this is a great one. Not Philadelphia Eagles tackle legend, no. Spinoff character, you would. Greenlight for a new movie award. A character's so interesting.

You'd watch a whole movie based on them, and he mentions Baldwin and Glenn Gary. But he came up with this because of Tom Cruise and Tropic Thunder could less Grossman have carried a movie. I say no. That's kind of... That'd be tough for an hour and a half.

I didn't have a couple possibilities for this, though. Diggeman and the Departed. That was... Talked about for a while, right? That could have been... Definitely been a sequel. The Wallberg character. Quint prequel, we talked about.

about when we did Jaws. Could have gone back, maybe even gone back all the way to World War II. My two favorites, Dino, Stormar, second reference, Dino Velvet. 8mm. 8mm prequel as he dives into the world of snuff films. But then, obviously, the answer is Caruso and Proof of Life. We call it Stuff for Legends. Oh, wow.

Stuffful Legends, the Proof of Life sequel. Dino on another case. Crow's not in it. Maybe he has a cameo. Maybe he just calls in. but yeah, Caruso's doing his second. I saw a randomly saw, like, a Russell Crow press conference or podcast where he was taught, proof of life came up and he was like,

my girlfriend at the time, Meg Ryan. And I was like, yes. Oh, wow, he admitted that? Yeah. Oh, my God. That was on Front Street. Everybody knew that was happening. I bet she was married.

They were like, interesting. Abigail wants us to have a new category. Would this movie be better with Buffalo Bill or Little Bill? couldn't quite get there, but did think about it. I like it. Do you have a little bill impression ready to go? I think Little Bill. I'm trying to think which one to do.

I'm sorry, my mind isn't on... What does he say? Sorry, my mind isn't on the projection of the film. Derek Lady, we talked about worst movie athletes, and he was outraged that we forgot about Matt Damon and Legend of Bagger Vance. Which Damon's talked about. He had to speed learn how to play golf in like two weeks.

And his swing is like really, really bad. But then we got a bigger email from Mike Montre. In 1998, I was an extra in the movie for Love in the Game. We got $50 a day. It was November in the Bronx. It was cold. Sam Ramey obviously wanted jackets off to display late summer baseball. Bronx natives grew tired of the request.

Look closely. Winter jackets are in the background. nights grew long and cold extras grew impatient and John C. Riley couldn't catch or throw couldn't throw the ball back to the pitcher at all. Costum was dealing. Riley was fucking uptakes left and right.

The extras had enough. It was cold. The jeers began escalated into you fucking suck Riley. Riley had enough, flipped out, screaming at the extras. Let me do my fucking job. He couldn't do the job. The next day his lighting double replaced him in all

catching scenes. Jesus. I would love to know. that not your winner for worst actor as an athlete? I would love to know which actor who had to play sports in a movie required the most training to actually be, you know, somewhat believable on screen. One of my favorites for this is Rob Lowe didn't know how to skate before Youngbud. Really? And they did this five-week speed session with him, and then he actually got, like, pretty good. That would be a great documentary.

I would love to watch, like, Kevin Costner just has to go on the Haney Project before Tin Cup just to learn how to play golf. Right. Like, I'm trying to think of what would be the thing? What would be the athletic act that you feel like you could immediately go do and plausibly do it on film right now? I mean, I think golf is easy

because it doesn't require any like physical. The problem with golf is that your swing always looks 20% more awkward and bad than you think it does. Yeah. Because in your mind you're like, boy, I'm Kepka. And like, and then you look at a video of yourself

and you're like, I look like I'm playing left-handed. What is that? I think I could throw a fastball in a movie, believeably. I was going to say, I think I could do Riley's job. I mean, I would be hard for me to get down in a squat for catching now, but I felt pretty natural being behind the plate. As a pitcher growing up, I think I could get away with it.

You have to be pretty uncoordinated to not be able to just catch Kevin Costner for three hours. What about you? You don't think you could conduct an offense and, like, white man can't jump two on two? You and Jacoby. Basketball's hard. Basketball's hard because people, especially if you play, your shots, your shot. So I just had a little bit of an unorthodox shot

that would make it look like I didn't play, but I did play. Yeah. So it's almost like you're better off learning from scratch. But Snipes is a good example of they, he was a good athlete that they taught to play basketball, you know, to mix results. I was never a huge fan. I think the toughest would be, for me,

it would be tennis because I've played tennis forever, but my serves weird. So it looked like I've never played tennis before. You had to get a lighting double to do your service. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I never like bring.

back. I would love to see the training that went into filming challenges. Yes. I think an underrated one for this is a track and field movie. Because you have to see yourself running. But to be like,

if you're Steve Prefontein, you have to have like basically no part of your body's moving as you're running, but it has to seem like you're going fast, which I think is really hard to do. If they keep doing like weird live stunt things on Netflix,

they should have crud up race Lido now to see who was the faster pre fontaine. Dressed as with prefontaine wigs. This is a great one. It's from Charles. How do you and Kyle Brandt sleep at night? Knowing you failed to choose

the Storm family portrait as the piece of memorabilia you'd keep from heart to kill in 1990. It's seen early in the movie right before Felicia Storm is brutally murdered during Fort Poit with Mason and before their son's sunny escapes. See Attached as Penance, please do an episode

on Deadly Ground. So he sent a picture. And this is the Storm Family photo. I didn't notice it. I apologize. I know Kyle apologizes as well. This is amazing. I can't believe they did this.

I'll tell you what you guys should do. By the way, that's Sharon Stone, I think. To make up for this, you should get those made into T-shirts and wear them the next time you and Kyle record. I feel like Kyle is crazy enough and there's no football right now that he's going to show up on a rewatchable's with the Storm family portrait on there. But you should do it for like a real. serious movie for like Deer Hunter. I'm wearing the Storm family. Thomas Levy says,

how is this for a CR? Thanks, Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. How'dest Take? Buckle up, CR. Are we sure Daniel Day Lewis is in the acting version of James Hardin? Come on. He's never appeared in a best picture film.

He has zero appearances on any film listed in the AFI top hundred. What I mean? Didn't Lincoln win best picture? Yeah. No, but, It didn't. It did not. He's never been in a film that one best picture.

That's actually the wrong way to criticize Daniel DeLewis. Because, yes, like, first of all, he's like unquestionably the best actor of his generation. Listen, I'm just reading the emails. I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm saying Daniel DeLuis fucked up by never being like the bad guy in Conair. Like, Daniel Day Lewis should have done one bad action movie where he's like Hans Gruber. That would have just been amazing. Or done his version of Lecter and Sounsela lamps.

Yes. Did Daniel Day Lewis need his training day? Is there another podcast that would compare Daniel Day Lewis to James Harden? No. I'm just trying to imagine if Daniel Day Lewis today was like so disrespectful. I love training day. I'm going to just remake it, but I'm Alonzo.

I love Taken. I liked what Liam Neeson did. Do you like to get wet? What basketball player is Daniel Day Lewis? It's a tough one. It's somebody who won MVP's but was never on a title team. And you can transform themselves. Yeah, because in some ways it's like the only thing you do is win rings.

So is it Robert Orie? You know what I mean? Is it Mike Trout? No. Just multiple MVP's but never won the World Series? I'm just saying by the logic of this question of like, he was never in the best movie of a year. Steve Nash is good. Steve Nash is good.

Steve Nash is good. The mid-2000 son's offense? Or it's somebody who's like a chameleon as their career changed? I don't know. John Craig Howell said he just caught up to the live and die in L.A. episode. Says, you talked about whether prison phones during visits are tapped and recorded. He said the answer is yes. I know this because my wife had an internship with a prosecutor's office during law school

and was signed to listen to some of them. They monitor just the case the prisoners are dumb enough to discuss things they did. which they do, and a phrase she heard still is used by them today. H&L, because one of the prisoners told his visitor,

oh, man, that's H&L. H&L, a whole other level, as in something is really escalated. So they always say H&L because of these prison things that they heard. Okay.

So apparently they do record them. Yeah, that makes sense. I figured they did. I just didn't know if they recorded LA County Jail in 1985 or whatever, but yes. This is a great one from Justin and Los Angeles. what about the Sharon Stone

Fuck of the Century Award for excellence and craft? As Michael Douglas tells us the basic instinct, Catherine Shammell is an otherworldly lay, not an all-star or an NBA level, a singular sport-defining level talent. So what other deeply skilled movie characters

are eligible? He suggests Danny Ocean as a generational thief and machine as a world-class sadist. Multiple 8-millimeter references. I really like this. Vincent Loria as a nine-ball and stocker player and color of money.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But what else do we have for? I think it almost has to be more obscure, right? So this is like somebody who is overly competent at their specific job. Is this like Keitel and Polp? Yeah, like a folk hero level of like what they're good at. Kitell and Pulp?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, the wolf. That's good. Yeah, that's good. I like that. I'm going to keep an eye on this one. Sunny Kay from Vancouver says,

Longtime fan. Been rewatching Miami Vice on streaming. Us too. Why didn't the actor who played Tubbs become a bigger star or do anything after Vice? Good looking guy. Not quite as charismatic as Don Johnson,

but held his own in multiple episodes. What held him back? You probably know better than I would. What happened to film? I never understood it. He liked music more, too, right? I thought he was total package,

like handsome, funny. I thought he was the fuck of the century. Good action star. I don't really have an answer. for this one. Maybe he was an asshole. We've both been rewatching season one though. Yeah, I was thinking about do we do give the rewatchables audience

a season one starter kit for episodes which I think is the two-part opening. Sadly, I can do this off top of my head. The two-part opening, Calderon's Revenge, which we already did on re-watchables. Great McCarthy. Great McCarthy, definitely. Glades? I don't love Glades. You like Glades more than I do,

but Glades does have people we've talked about on this pod. The Golden Triangle episode is amazing. The Bruce Willis as a domestic violence arms dealer. Oh, wow. I didn't recommend that. Oh, my God. Could not recommend that episode more highly. Evan, which is no longer available on streaming because they end the show with Biko by Peter Gabriel.

Oh, right. Must have canceled that one. There's a great one. The last couple, there's one when Crockett falls in love and it starts affecting his job. and then tubs get beaten up. And then I just watched Lombard recently, the last episode of season one. And it's Dennis Farina playing the Midnight Run.

The guy, Sidney, have a cream soda, do some fucking thing. Basically playing this wisecracking gangster. And I texted CR about this already. During the episode, they play the entire song of Wire by U2, which is probably the single best U2 song of the 80s. And they're just cranking U2

during this chase scene. I'm like, this is the most 1985 moment of my life. Did you say Milk Run? Milk Run's another good one. And Smuggler's Blues. And Smugglers Blues. Yeah, so that would be the starter kit.

We might have to force Craig to watch all this summer. You like all these 80s things, though. I do. I love the 80s. I also, Heart of Darkness, where Susie Amos plays a young porn star in Miami and they break up an underground porn ring. Oh, that's one of the early ones.

Yeah. Everything leads to the third episode. That's before almost. And then the third episode of season two, which ends with the Dyer Strait song, is the best one. I think probably in this series. Should I start growing my hair out? Should I give one shot at it?

Use it before you lose it, man. That's my attitude. I've thought about it. But there's such an awkward middle period, I feel like before it starts to look good that you have to get through. I don't know. I think Chalame has paved away for the mullet again, too.

Yeah, but, you know, I'm not Timothy Shalame. Steve W. wants us to basically do an on-screen smoking Hall of Fame as a special episode. That's good. and wants us to have a mailbag episode, best actor, best actress for the Spiff's Most Passionate, Worst, On Screen Cigarette

That Felt the Best Film Cigarette, just do like 10 categories and go. You guys would know this better than us. I figured I could talk about this. How is Marlboro never approached us? Yeah, as a comeback? Can we, like, why, of all the things that advertise on podcasts, like, would it be weird if we were like...

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Look, I wouldn't do it now, but I used to do it then. We're not condoning it. We're appreciating it. He wants, uh, he said, smoking problem call 1-800 Marlboro. He recommends CR, look up on YouTube, the compilation of match strikes from the long goodbye. Oh, yeah.

He says Elliot Gold is the Michael Jordan of Strike anyways. Yeah. If we did this, you guys would have to smoke cigarettes during the taping. I mean, fine. You said you did or didn't have one in 2026? Yeah, I've only had one. I won two weekends ago. We're recording this before Memorial Day weekend

and very strong possibility this weekend. This is an amazing one from James McElroy. Probably not the same James McElroy. The Sasha Jenkins Award gets me every time. That's for the award where we can't figure out why the actor didn't become a bigger star. And we've been doing this, what, for four years? Since days, yeah.

His name is actually Sasha Jensen. You guys getting it wrong for so long, really hits the point because he should have been bigger than he was. We've been saying the wrong name the entire time. I think we keep it. I think it's funnier that it's a Sasha Jenkins. Yeah. Or maybe call it the Sasha Jenkins Award?

I don't know. Do you think Sasha Jensen's just like, God damn it, guys? You can't even get my fucking name right. Yeah, so this whole time we've had the wrong name. Adam from Westport says thank you for so prominently featuring Crisp's ponytail in the kindergarten cop episode. I saw it when I was six I spent the remainder of my childhood

completely terrified of any man with a ponytail Do you think kindergarten cop Was directly responsible For the sharp drop and popularity of long hair For men in the 1990s? I have no idea I'm gonna say no because of grunge I feel like long hair

Actually became a thing But I do think ponytail's went away in the 90s And that might have been a reason I also remember the ponytail From the guy in Goodwill Hunting being like you don't want a ponytail. Yeah. Segal ponytail for a long time, right?

Sure. He also made to help kill it. Yeah. Because people hate Seagal. Avi from Staten Island says, I have known how to take. We're all very well aware of Bill's correct views on the K. Diane Keaton character and the godfather.

Avi from Staten Island wrote that, huh? Just read the email. I would never make up a mailbag. Well, the argument was always Diane Keene, great actress, Kay Adams, bad character. Poorly written. Okay. I stand by it.

for the rest of my life. Kay Adams? Was that her last? Is that her name's... K. Adams, Carol Leone. Oh. That's... I did not know that.

That's... We've talked about this. That's where K. Adams, I think, got her name because her name's not actually K. Adams. The sports... She named yourself after Michael Correleone's wife? Kay Adams isn't her real name. And you think she watched the godfather?

I don't know. Maybe she liked Kay Adams. I didn't know any of this. Yeah. Holy shit. So Avi says, I'd like to take... I'd like to go one step further. and suggest Michael should have had Kay killed for abhorting his son.

Michael had his own brother killed for being stupid and putting his family's lives in danger. No one was harmed. Kay, who in his own eyes, actually murdered his own son, should have at least been sentenced to what happened to Fredo. That takes too hot even for Craig. It is interesting, though, that he kills Fredo, but with the mom of his kids, that was, like, a bridge too far for him.

Yeah. Afredo betrayed the family. Freedo was so weak. Should we all have stage names? I just get down like, dang, what should our names have been? You could have started when you became... I should have just been Michael Corleone. Yeah, Craig Corleone?

Yeah, that plays. Could have been Craig Beck. Just gotten rid of the horal. Yeah, yeah, I know. The horal's not great. I like the horal works for you now, though. I guess. For those who can pronounce it.

Matt Larkin, another Dion Waiter's question, he thinks the all-time Dian Waiter's performance is Alec Baldwin and Glenn Gary. Think about it with no warning, breezes in partway through the movie for a single scene, whoever's all his lines, and an epic monologue,

absolutely cooks, and dresses down a room of legends. Yeah. It's a pinch hit grand slam. Shit's all over Jack Lemon. It's pretty good. The one scene, Dion Waders is like a special category.

It's also like that one is specifically Mamet writing it for Baldwin is pretty nuts. Yeah. Baldwin's whole career is kind of Dion Waders. Everything he's in, I mean, 30 Rock, he is amazing and it's I feel like it hasn't really lived on in a way that other huge show characters have. People decided they didn't like Alck Baldwin.

No, 30 Rock. You think? I think people have turned on Alck Baldwin. He is amazing in 30 Rock. It's like an all-time character. If he does the Gene Hackman and just leaves in 2012 when we never see him again, we're talking about him reverentially. He's nowhere, I mean, like, I think that there are other reasons why people turn

on Al-Baldwin. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Hans says, thanks for all the laughs. Huge fan of the show. a new idea for a flex category. It's the Sharon Stone Going Going Gone Award. The point in a movie where

it actually goes from something you believe could happen to suspending all belief and then just sitting back and enjoying the ride. An example, die hard when John McLean jumps off the exploiting roof

for the fire hose loosely tied to his midsection. You're like, all right, I'm just going to ride with this. So this is a variation on the Dan Campbell Award then? The tank showing up an animal house. I think this is more,

so the reason he came up with this in honor of Sharon Stone because she was on my podcast once and told me in an interview that she hit a home run and Dodger Stadium. To his credit, Bill did impress her.

He just sat back and enjoyed the fact he was interviewing Sharon Fucking Stone. Do you remember her saying that? Now, after I got the email I did, I didn't challenge it. You didn't challenge her when she was like,

I hit a home run at a major league baseball stadium. Apparently not. I guess I wouldn't either. No, that's smart play. Business decision. But I like the Sharon Stone going, going, go and go on the word.

That would be great if you were like, was it the swing of the century? Pat S wants us to do the Robert Duval, Lieutenant Colonel Kilgore's Surf Session Award for the character who loves their hobbies so much. They do it in the most unusual circumstances possible. And he suggests the lead bad guy and die hard too doing naked Tai Chi. Yeah. And then Finch practicing putting in American Pie and Apollo Creed's coach. playing chess and roller girl keeping her roller skates on.

I don't know. I appreciate the theory. All right. A couple more here quick. Travis. This is really good. Vincent Hanna brings Portman's character to the yard, drops her off in a gurney,

and just starts ordering everyone around. I need a trauma surgeon and a vascular surgeon. She cuts the main artery arm. Why did nobody tell him to shut the fuck up and get to the waiting room, like what happens to everybody else? Because he's a cop. Okay.

Luke Skywalker attends the pre-flight meeting before the Death Star one, then starts talking about the size of rats on the home planet. Why did nobody turn around and ask him? Excuse me,

who the fuck are you? This is a double alliance. There is something here. Yeah. The Vincent Hanna walking into an ER room of irrational confidence. I don't know.

Last email from Jeff K from New Jersey. Love the pod. I'd listen to just about every episode since the beginning and my buddy and I came to see you do the Creed live show in Philly. Yesterday I attended my daughter's

elementary school production of Charlotte's Webb. It was as boring as you can imagine. My daughter's small part. My mind began to wander. After a few minutes, I began thinking about what rewatchable awards I would give to the kids in the play. Oh, shit. And who won the movie to different kids?

And it got me thinking, have you ever applied rewatchables categories to other aspects of your life? Like when I gave the Deanne Waters Award to one of the kids regardless. Thanks for helping me get through it. It is interesting the concept of just applying the rewatchables

to other parts of your life, like at a party. You just went to a wedding at Hafeitz. Who won the Dion Waders Award at Hyfitz's wedding? There was a guy who hit like this really awesome dance right as Jump Around came on.

Really? And I'll never forget it. What was Hyfitts's playlists like? Mostly classics or more than new stuff? Or what was it? It was a DJ who did a lot of blending. Oh. So you could go from,

from Abba to jump around to shout. It was all over. It was good. Who is the champion of the shout dancing at his wedding? Anybody we would know? Nobody you would know. But Hyvitz is a good job. Hyvitz has like water people around the wedding

where every like half hour he has people come and bring him water just to check in and make sure he's staying level. He had hydration experts? Yes. He has hydration assistants that are always like, it's been a half an hour. I'm going to make sure Hyvitz has a water. Wow, that's really smart.

My wife and I recently were going through all the trips we had done since we had moved to L.A. And I realized I was doing what's age is the best, what's age the worst with them. You know, like, where I was just like, actually that, like, that experience was great or that restaurant was greater. It was amazing when the cat sat next to us in Croatia. But then, like, that was actually Dubrovnik sucked or whatever. Like, it was fun. Do you wish you would kept more notes of things that happened to you? and over the years

so you could remember the details better. Yeah, you know, like... I try it every once in a while, and I find that, like, my journal entries are just too boring. They're just, like, went to work, did a podcast, came home, watched a movie.

Like, you know, it's just not, like, when you read journals of people who are, like, fighting in this Spanish Civil War. You could do the rewatchables categories for the first 10 years of the ringer. Who's the Dionne Waivers? That's interesting.

We are heading up on the... It's probably just, was it June 1st? We just passed it. Was that when it was? Mm-hmm. My biggest memory of the first actual day of the ringer is, um, did Mallory break Sean's shoulder or vice versa? Somebody. Mallory hugged Sean and knocked her shoulder out of second.

No, it was so, I think someone hugged Mal and she, like, cracked a rib or like something. Wow. Wow. With her shoulder or her rib, yeah. It was, I think it was her fault, though. Yeah. She was overhugging somebody and cracked her own ribs. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. That was at a big bar. right in the first day of the ringer. Yeah, she's like, ugh. Yeah, that was great. The other thing I remember... And then I think Muhammad Ali died.

Oh, yeah, right around then. Yeah. The other thing I remember, maybe it was the next year. We're at the Fourth of July thing, and there was some... Somebody got traded or... Frades here or something,

and we all had to start working at the July 4th thing. Oh, yeah, what's like the biggest news bomb in Ringer history? The Kyrie Irving Trade. I think, well, the first... What I have, like, a clear, clear memory of is Prince, Bowie.

and Muhammad Ali all dying like kind of in a cluster around each other but I could be getting that wrong but I remember that being like I think Muhammad Ali news broke at like midnight I thought it was the Kyrie Irving

it's not that we were actually prepared to handle that we were all together and then the Kyrie Irving trade happened and we were just like a month after the ringer started Durant signed with the Warriors I think July 2026

July 2016 that was a big one so Anthony Davis that happened on a... Was it the Kauai thing happened on a Friday night? Remember we were waiting for it all week?

That was the earthquake. And it was the same day as the earthquake? Yeah, that was a good one thing. Even Luca was a Saturday night, I think, or Friday night. Yeah, I was at Longlegs. Yeah. Got out and it was like, holy shit. Is that true?

You had the phone off? I was just in the movie theater, and when I walked out, it was like, Luca got traded. No, wait, long legs was when Trump got shut. Luka... Luca was... I can't remember why I was in a movie... It was like January, February.

I was seeing the movie Companion. And when I came out, Luca had been traded. Yeah. Yeah, when we started the ringer, I don't think the Pats had won the Super Bowl that year, but it was still, the Patriots were in control of football. The Warriors were winning 73, but then lost the finals to the... 2016 is one of the craziest years in sports of the 21st century.

The Cubs had the World Series that year. The 18-in-in-game or whatever. The two biggest musicians we had were Adele and Kanye. The summer, that TV summer, was Thrones, but I also think Stranger Things premiered that summer. Stranger Things premiered. It was the 283 comeback was 2016

season. I think it was 2017 when the Super Bowl was played, but that was the 2016 season. Honestly, we won so many Super Bowls. I can't remember the years. UNC Villanova was a national champion that year with like the back-to-back buzzer beater. Yeah. Oh, the Jay Wright. What do you say? Bang?

Or he didn't say anything. He just walked it off, right? And then Sal and I lost our parlay of Hillary Clinton to win the presidency with the Pats to win the AFCs. Oh, I remember that bet. Huge bet. And the Pats were,

the Pats in late October had like a six-game lead. What were Hillary's odds? Hillary, even two days before, we could have hedged with Trump at plus 500 and we decided not to and ride it out. So that was a tough loss. And then we lost on the Warriors, was the other one in 2016.

We had them. We could have hedged after game four. Dremont got suspended. really was like... It was a crazy year in sports. That's the 73 game season, right? Yeah. Unfortunately.

That's one of the craziest years of my lifetime, just in general, just things happening. And I think that was Lester one? Oh, shit. It was the craziest year of the 21st century in sports. Also, I had a show that was on HBO every week and then got canceled. That happened in 2016.

And that's when you, like, couldn't see for three weeks. Remember? Your contact thing? It was longer than that. Yeah. Do you know that story? No. I couldn't see.

And I thought it was stressed from the ringer in my HBO show. Like everything was blurry? Like we would have the teleprompter and I couldn't see it. And I was getting these huge headaches. And I thought I had like a brain tumor. And I actually did have skin cancer, which was a separate thing that I had to remove from my forehead. But I couldn't see it.

It turned out when you hit your mid-40s, your eyesight can shift sometimes if you have bad eyesight and get better. Yeah. Oh, whoa. So my contacts, which were like, minus 11s, my prescription went down on like minus 9.5. Wow, it improves? Yeah.

That's crazy. So I was constantly like doing this and I couldn't see in focus. And I was like, I'm fucking dying. And that happened to me as I'm trying to do the ringer and the HBO show. And I thought I was having like a mental breakdown. Wow. And it was just my contacts were too strong. So a little cautionary tale out there for everybody.

Just get your eyes checked. Yeah. If you have an HBO show, make sure your eyes are checked. Well, I went to the doctor and he's like, oh yeah, this happens to everybody. in their mid-fort is. It's like, well, nobody fucking told me that that my contacts would go from minus 11. Not yet.

My other thing is getting worse. Your asset's getting worse? I will, I think also, it's been 10 years of, like, kind of looking at my phone like this, and now it's like, my, my, I need, like, I mean, I have readers, but I need progressive ones and stuff. Yeah, I've just, I won't wear reading glasses, so I just can't see.

Even if you can see in the, when I'm doing the mailbag, I'm like, I'm just, learned how to live with it. That's what we do in the rewatchings. We just string it together. That's why it's been Sasha Jenkins. That's how you're like, Tim Masterson. Sasha Jensen must be so fucking mad

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