The Rewatchables - ‘Animal House’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan go on double-secret probation after rewatching the 1978 classic ‘Animal House’ starring John Belushi, Tim Matheson, and John Vernon. Producers: Craig Horlbeck, Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Matt Pevic The Ringer is committed to responsible trading. Please visit https://fanduel.com/predicts to learn more about the resources and helpline. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The rewatchables is brought to by the Ringer podcast network where you can find the watch with Chris Ryan. What are you watching these days, CR? Widows Bay. Oh, I can't, I can't, just hasn't taken for me. One of the best shows of the year. Really? Oh, yeah.

And then I'm riding Euphoria out to the finish. Me too. Yeah. I like you for you. Have I done my ruin pressure for you yet? No. Better than I thought it was going to be. Nice job.

Craig's here as well, and we're joined by a special guest, Murph. It's a three-man pod. Hey, Murph. Been waiting for this one for a long time. One of the most influential comedies ever. The last one we're doing for Netflix is a joke month. It is still on Netflix. Animal House is next.

CR, hard to explain what this movie meant in the 80s. We just didn't have a lot of comedies. It's the only comedy about college. Probably had six, seven, eight. You would just re-watch over and over again. The lines, it reached the point, the famous lines from this movie. And then there's like a whole separate subsection of lines from this movie that you could just do shorthand with people.

And I think this comedy had as big of an influence as any comedy that has come out in the last 50 years, Animal House. Almost like a, it's got like a crater where it landed. And it like starts all these different like microgenres. It kickstarts these careers, basically launches like three different filmmakers into the world with Reitman Ramos and Landis had already worked, obviously. But, like, it's important almost dwarfs its, like, entertainment sometimes. But I still really, like, enjoy having it on a lot. What was the movie you said?

It's, like, putting on an old sweatshirt? Ghostbusters. Yeah. I feel that way about Animal House. I've just seen it so many times. I know every section of it. It's got Balushi, who's right here, actually. One of my favorites of all time.

You know what? I wanted to ask you about was what kind of relationship. relationship you had to National Lampoon as like an institution outside of just the Hughes movies and this. Only knew it from Animal House. Okay. From all the people that kind of went on. And then from reading the books about it. You know, when you started reading the, like even the Bob Woodward book about Belushi,

the signer or a lab book that came out in 84, 85, just in general. I had no idea until I started reading how impactful it was. I didn't know as a kid. It's just kind of fascinating because, you know, it's not dissimilar. from a lot of upstart media stories that you read about from the last 20 years. It's not that much different than Vice in some ways or something,

where it starts out as this small-time production house or, you know, like magazine based out of Harvard and then branches out into all these different things and takes advantage of corporations looking for basically, for lack of a better term content at that time. It's like Grantland. Just these little underdogs. Yeah.

Oh, no, we work for ESPN. It's a before-after for comedy movies. Just felt like Blazing Saddles was, what, 74, 75 range. This movie comes out and it leads to two different eras because you have the rambunctious comedy era, right? That's Animal House, Meatballs, Caddyshack, Blues Brothers, airplane stripes, like big stars, big set pieces, just felt like it was for everybody who was 20 and older

in the 70s, and then people like us who were growing up after jumping in. But it also ushered in the raunchy comedy era. Sex comedy, yeah. Which then Porky's really capitalized on. But we've talked about that in the past. Revenge of the nerds, yeah. Zapped, class, losing it. This was like a whole cottage industry.

So it spawned two separate industries of comedy. It also pretty much invents the modern college comedy. Yeah. Which maybe doesn't even really like take flight until the 90s. I grew up with kicking and screaming. Everybody wants some as later, but PCU was a big one for me. That is a really reliable subgenre of comedy. I feel like it was the first college movie.

I'm sure there were others, but this is the first one I can really think of that I saw, where it was like, is this what it's like to go to college? Yeah. Did you think that? Kind of, yeah. I was on a text ride last thing with two of my best friends from high school went to Colgate.

Okay. And they were in a frat in Colgate with two of my other friends who became good friends. And we were just texting about this movie and how much, like, they had seen Animal House for years. And they, when they went into college in the late 80s, it was like, I want to be in a frat. You're just making the Animal House jokes as you're in the frat. Yeah. And that's just kind of how the 80s went. I have some takes on this later.

But this movie was like, someday I'll go to college and I'll be like the Animal House guys. It's hard to explain. That's how I felt about high school with Ferris Bueller, where I was just like, I'm going to go to high school, I'm going to have my own room, which I date. I was only child. But I'm going to have like this universe within my room. And I like, these are going to be my friends.

But one day, like, I'm just going to have like the coolest day ever, like in high school when I'm like cut in class. Craig, you're later than us. There's a million college movies that are out by then. Right? Less than you'd think, though. It's mostly high school more than college. Yeah.

But you're like old school and stuff. It's usually like jokes. That's like neighbors, but those are more like plays on adults interacting with college, less than college kids. Yeah. It's themselves. So when you watch this movie, first of all, the movie takes place in 1962. Yes. Which now feels like a cajillion years ago.

Crucial kind of thing that they did, which was made a movie about when I think honestly the writers were like, this is when America had its innocence is like before Kennedy assassination. Before Vietnam, before Watergate, for everything. very, very, very, like, aggressive, modern sensibility of, like, raunch, you know? Yeah. And so they, like, they infuse it, basically with, like, late 70s debauchery, but it's about, like, when everything was still innocent. So they catch lightning in the bottle when this movie comes out. They film it in late 77, comes out summer of 78.

S&L is on at that. S&L is the biggest that's ever going to be because this movie comes out and makes pollution even bigger star. You have all this national lampoon stuff. happening where all of these people, it's like this comedy factory, now they're all going out, getting hired by Hollywood. You have the 70s comedy movement in general, which is happening on two separate coasts, right? And this is like the Letterman, Seinfeld, Jay Leno, all these people are in LA too. And then you have young people pushing against old people, which is a thing that's

happening all through the 70s and finally trickles into comedy with Saturday Live and some other stuff and just kind of people lampooning, people older than them, pushing the envelope, trying to be raunchy, trying to offend people. There's one more thing. Let's go. You're starting to get late 50s and early 60s nostalgia because of American graffiti and happy days. So it's people who are probably in their late 30s or early 40s

thinking about when they were kids and the music that was on and the way people dressed and the different archetypes of people that were around. Why can't that come back? Well, it does. I mean, we just do it for the night. 90s now, or we do it for the early 2000s now. Are we doing it correctly for the late 90s?

It feels like we should be nostalgic for pre-social media in what life was like. Yeah, I think that's due soon. Like, we're kind of like, there's like a kind of early 2000s, like, you know, like that era, like nostalgia going on and we'll probably... There you go, Craig. You're coming back. I mean, people are wearing corded headphones again because it's cool and nostalgic.

I never stopped. You never stopped. I knew people would circle back around. Ben said that everybody likes the strokes now and stuff, like that there's his age. Like, that's another sign of that kind of thing. People are dressing like the 90s. It runs in these cycles.

Yeah. Yeah, you could see it a little bit with the, with the JFK Carolyn Beset, too, with the early 90s. People going backwards. But it seems like music, there's a huge nostalgia movement now for that early 2000 stuff that we loved.

Yep. And then the comedies is the other one. Mainly because we're not making comedies the same way we have, which we've talked about a million times. But that whole, that whole appetit, generation run and then the late 90s stuff,

I feel like is as big as ever. So many running lines from this movie. And I think there's like levels of this, right? These are lines that just have become part of like the lexicon. We're in like, in my everyday life from college on. Like when, when Flander comes in, he's like, you guys playing cards? That was something we would just say.

And you knew somebody who's doing a flounder. Major League Yaboes. We called boobs Yaboes at college because of this movie. I had that what's age the best. And that foot is me. That was another one. You would just do it. Thank you, sir, Mab, another.

The toga, toga. Like, anytime, like, should we have a party Friday night? And just be like, even if you weren't having a toga party. Yeah. Like, toga. My parents used to make double secret probation jokes. That was, that was, this movie, probably created that. Yeah, I think so.

Yeah. But there were stealth ones, too, like, Waitel Otis sees us. He loves us. You just throw that one out. Otis My Man, when we had Otis Nixon on the Red Sox, there was like a whole bunch of Otis My Man jokes,

because every new animal house. There's one that I actually, from that the Dexter's scene that I really like is what Peter Riker, I think, says, you girls come here all. he's great this movie by the way you mind if we dance

with your dates fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life sir was the one that became the biggest one along with was it over when the Germans bomb par harbor yeah

he's on a roll keep him going Niedermeyer dad became another famous one and then the Remain come all is well but I mean I just listed

that's 12 lines from this and they really did become part of the way people talk. It's hard to explain. There's also, I think, I was watching the Chandler-Lavac movie roommates a couple weeks ago. Yeah, the Netflix thing. 20-year-old. It's basically animal house.

You know what I mean? Like, the idea of, like, taking a really good, formative setting in someone's life and doing it more in, like, a vignette style and having a lot of gags within gags. Yeah. And I think that there's a way that this is, like, this movie feels like magazine articles in a way or it feels like paging through a magazine.

It doesn't feel like one scene influences the next scene necessarily. And that is kind of like Kentucky Fried movie. It's kind of like S&L and Lemmings and the other things that they were doing around. It's like Monty Python. It's very much like out of sketch and out of magazine rating.

Yeah, and it's funny that all these people kind of indirectly or directly knew each other from the 70s, these comedy people and it didn't matter. Like they know each other from Second City. groundlings, Lemmings, S&L. They went to college together at Harvard.

And they were all kind of interconnected. Like in this movie, Landis didn't know any of these guys. John Landis, this is his first big movie. Harold Ramis, this is his first big credit. And he knew,

I think he was the one that knew Belushi from Second City. So he was like, we got to have Belushi's Bluto. Ivan Reitman's first big movie ever. Another one, he might be taking the producer lead for us. Rightman.

Yeah. Yeah. This is like at least his sixth or seventh one. I would bet Brookheimer's number one. Brokeheimer, yeah, you're right. Brooke Kramer's probably one. Belushi's first mainstream movie. We'll talk about him a second.

Kevin Bacon and Karen Allen. Karen Allen about to go on a just... She must have been Raiders. Yeah. Meteoric rise for her. Tim Matheson, Bruce McGill, Tom Hulse. Yep. Bruce Miguel, like, just became a different human being, like 20 years later.

Yeah, he became like the legendary middle-aged character actor. What, that smirk off your face? You would have no idea he was D-Day in this. I have a lot of Tim Matheson thoughts later. And then Stephen first is flounder. And then Maggie from Caddyshack, who I can't wait to talk about later. Is that the 13-year-old?

Yeah. And then randomly, just three Donald Sutherland scenes for no real reason. Yeah, and it sounds like they basically needed him to get the movie being. It's like, imagine a world where Donald Sutherland is like, I'll do it. That's what gets it over the hump. I was trying to think of the equivalent.

I was trying to think of the equivalent now to that, which would be like if, I don't know, you just got like Ryan Reynolds or somebody. Probably. I mean, he's not, I don't know if they're, no,

but it's somebody at that level. He was famous enough that it was a big deal. He was in the movie. All right, so Belushi only received $35,000, paid a bonus after it became a hit. They created the character as a cross between Harpo Marx and the Cookie Monster.

I don't know the Harpo, I don't remember Harpo Marx's work. Do you never did Marks Brothers? No. Was he like the crazy one? I always like associated a lot of this comedy stuff with Stooges. The Cookie Monster. Yeah.

That kind of stuff. Big exaggerated. Because he was doing comedy on stage forever and you had to do a lot of like dramatic. Did you ever see anybody who ended up becoming famous in a groundlings or lemmings or anything like that, Second City? In New York, like back in the day I saw Human Giant, which is Aziz, Ansari and Paul Scherner's group. Yeah. So I saw, I was dating a girl who moved to Chicago and went to Second City and Horatio Sands.

Really? Was on the cast and I don't, he had him made S&L yet, but was just clearly really funny. Right. And was like, and then when he went to Texas, I was like,

that was the guy we saw in Chicago. And then the other one, a little different, but when the first day I was working for Jimmy's show, he used to have Zach Alfenakis on all the time. He had like this fake character. We all loved him. We thought he was like a genius.

And he would come on. I think he used to play his brother, Seth. He had this fake brother. Yeah. But we would always like pitch stuff. Like, we got to get this and Zach. But, you know, he wasn't famous at all. And then he became Zachhouse.

You know one of my favorite bits reading about Animal House was? Yeah. Was reading about Landis going on Carson, I think? Was it Landis who went on Carson? And he did like a movie called Schlock. But Carson liked it. And like just was like, I'm going to have this guy on the, And he does like a great performance on Carson.

Really? Yeah. But like the idea that you could go on Letterman or go on Carson and nobody knew who you were. But if he liked you and he had you on three times, people were like, that's a guy now, you know? That's what I try to do with my podcast, Craig. Yeah? Yeah. When somebody comes on, it's like a papal blessing.

A papal blessing. I feel like the modern version of like seeing Horatio Sands do improv or something like that is now it's like being a fan of somebody's comedy YouTube channel. And then like three years later they're in a movie or on SNL. I remember Veronica who's on SNL. Yeah, Veronica, Slow Waska, whatever was. I remember Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney, we used to love their YouTube channel, Good Neighbor stuff.

Yeah, and then like four years later, they were on SNL, we're like, holy shit. Yeah, that is the equivalent. So 78, our guy, Belushi. Yeah. He pulls off, we talked about this during the Blues Brothers pod. He pulls off one of the great trifectas ever in the history of Hollywood. He's on SNL,

is the most important comedy show and probably the most influential TV show. He's in this movie, which finishes third for the year. It's the biggest comedy movie ever. And then releases the Blues Brothers album. And that goes to number one. And he has all of that going at the same time

in the winter of 1978. And now Murph's... What happens when this happens? I don't know. What's going on here, Murph? You want to get down? You didn't like something. This is what happens when you were...

Showing him out. It's not professional. Let him out? No, he'll lie over there. So, Belushi, he flew too close to the sun, Sierra. So to speak, yeah. Yeah, this was it. I think he invented flying close to the sun.

People think it's Icarus. No, it was Volushi. He had already was prone to maybe having some issues. Yeah. And then this happens. And he becomes as white-hot famous as anyone we've ever had. This is it. This is like he becomes too famous to be on SNL.

He gets every single comedy you could possibly be offered to you. And he's touring with a band in front of Sold Out Crowds. Yeah. Too much. One of my favorite things is the, he has to do, like, he does three days a week on Animal House. He's flying to Oregon to Animal House. Tells all of them, like, all these like bits and jokes he's thinking of. And then they would watch SNL on Saturday night.

And those things that he was joking about on, like, Tuesday would be on the show on Saturday. Well, that was another. He was allegedly clean when he was doing this movie. And he moved there with his wife. And he's living in some house. He's not living with the cast. Trying to stay clean. They host Thanksgiving.

Yeah. And he's like, and then I think he went off the rails right after. And that was that. There's been a lot of stuff written about this. But nobody really Farley is the only one like Belushi that I can think of. Like that could just physically. presence, the Pratt Falls, the facial expressions, the comedy.

Like, the moment you see him, you're just like, I'm just laughing already, he hasn't done anything yet? And the same kind of thing that Farley, everybody always is to say about Farley, was that they would just do anything for a laugh? Yeah. I wonder who else is, would you say Danny McBride,

even though he wasn't physically like that, is a little like that or no? Like, where you just see him and you're like, I'm ready to laugh. He can say anything and you'll laugh. The physical side is maybe not as much there with him. I don't know. Robin Williams,

you like had a little bit of that. Yeah. Yeah. But that was as much like, I'm just going to do 15 minute bits, like off of what one thing that you say. This was like, I'll jump through a plate class window.

And didn't care if you, the Farley story about Chippendale, Sandler didn't want him to do it because he's like, people are just going to laugh at you. Yeah. Farley was like, I don't care. There's something,

it's such a small group of people that have had this. And it happens with athletes, too. If you just go to a game or a comedy event or whatever and you sit down, and somebody comes on the stage or the court wherever and your eyes just go to them. Everyone said that's what blue shit had.

Like when he's the years before SNL, every time he came on stage, he just owned the stage. And it's also like it has an almost Beatles-like concentration of like it was just a few years. Yeah. You know, it was not like this 20-year career. It was like it was basically six years, right? Pretty much.

I mean, SNL is 75. He's dead in 82. Yeah. It had an interesting effect on SNL because it made Animal House made the show bigger. The fourth season of SNL, which starts in 78,

the 78, 79 season. The audience increased to the point that the Lauren Michaels and the writers kind of resented it. Lauren called it the undeserved audience. It was like, we were doing this. Where were you guys before? Now you're just here because the Animal House.

Well, it's also like they thought that they were like hipsters, essentially. And that now all of a sudden, like all the squares were like, I watched this. you know. Yeah. And there's a lot, a lot of the research

from this was once the animal house happens, all these guys now can get jobs. Everyone's looking for the next Belushi Animal House. Everyone's looking

for the next person to write that. So PJ O'Rourke had this whole thing about it, killed National Lampoon immediately. Yeah.

Because everyone who wrote for it was now being approached to write something. Like, how can I get a script going? Yeah. And it just would,

like, demolished, basically this counterculture thing, they became the culture. Yeah. Although by the time, PJer Rour

is running National Ampoon, like, it's probably, like, its sensibility is more conservative than you would be... No question. You'd be surprised to find out, like, how conservative, like, their worldview was, I think. I was never a big National Ampoon guy. I always...

Probably, like, Mad Magazine, more as weird as that is, but Spy was the first one where I was, like, finally a magazine for me. Yes. Yeah, yeah. You know. Have either of you read that National Ampoon, like, yearbook parody? I looked at, like, some of the pages

just online for this, but... It's kind of ingenious. I'm sure other people had done it beforehand, but it's basically Boone's yearbook with like notes scrawled. And then there's a couple of the characters from the movie. You're in it. There's a really good National Lampoon documentary that was made kind of in the early days of when we were good at documentaries.

I'm going to say it's like late 2000s, early 2010s. I thought they did a good job. They interviewed a lot of people. Is it called Drunk, Stoned, Brilliant Dead? 2015. Yeah. That documentary is good. So this was based on Ramis' experience,

Ramis' experience at Washington University, Miller, Chris Miller's experience at Dartmouth, and then Ivan Reitman at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario. Not on my radar. That wasn't one of your safety schools? And then Doug Kenny, who was one of the writers, a pretty legendary Lampoon guy,

died in Hawaii with Chevy Chase. Chevy Chase and him were on vacation fell off a cliff unclear what happened big mystery you know you're not the Duck Kenny thing's a really interesting I didn't know about this

yeah big rabbit hole he was involved in Caddyshack right a lot of cocaine yes back then obviously in all kinds of ways and a death

that they still don't know what happened and some people wonder if he killed himself or he did in right but anyway he graduated from Harvard

he was his frat experience was closer to the Omega side and the three characters from the yearbook you mentioned were Larry Kroger Mandy Pepperidge Vernon Wormer Oh so it's probably Larry's yearbook done I guess

Yeah yeah yeah But you mentioned this earlier They pick 62 Because they thought that was the year before JFK The year before Vietnam gets going Kind of the last innocent year in America It's like but it's like almost like

Right around then Because I remember my earliest memories of like the car radio are my parents listening to like big chill style oldies. Right. So for them this is like kind of almost like that they're freezing that time in

Amber and they're starting to make money off of happy days and stuff. So the original script and there was a lot more vomiting there was a lot of crazy shit. They did like nine drafts and then finally got greenlit at three million bucks and the National Amput guy Maddie Simmons

no relation said screw it silly little movie will make a couple bucks. Landis said he thought it was the funniest script he'd ever read, really offensive. He said there was a great deal of project out vomiting and rape and all of these things.

I don't even know what that meant for a comedy. But they get Belushi and they're off. $3 million budget made $141.5 million. Feels like probably more since then. This is just... Well, also $140 million

of $3 million is. an insane profit. Craig, they did. It made $120. They did the re-release a year later in 79 made another $21 million just because Belushi was more famous. Let me ask you this. Did you watch this? Did you watch this after you'd seen Kattychak? I don't remember when I first saw this. Yeah. I saw Katachak in the theater. I don't think my parents let me see this in the theater. So I probably saw it after Katashak. But I love Belushi. So I probably figured out a way to see this at some point. this is one of those where it's like this movie's been in my life for 50 years

I don't remember when I saw it other ones I do remember It's interesting to think about this kicking it all off But a lot of people most people Who are listening to this podcast Probably saw it In and around Maybe even after they saw Revenge of the Nerds

Or maybe even after they saw Porkies Or maybe even after they saw PCU and dazed and confused I mean you might have an experience Where it's always sitting there on the shelf Like I remember really being drawn to the the cartoon poster. Yeah.

And that style of like kind of caricature I was just like, what is this? You know? Well, the part I don't remember from the 80s

is how we saw the unedited version because we didn't really have the VHS stuff until like 83, 84 range. So it was probably edited for a couple years there on the different channels

and then became unedited again? Well, this was definitely a sleepover movie. No question. I feel like everybody had a copy of it. Yeah, but if you, I remember when I was like,

I must have been like eight or nine maybe or something. And it was just like, we're going to watch Animal House tonight. My older brother got it, you know? Yeah. Top 11 movies in 1978, Craig. Greece, Superman, Animal House. It's our top three. Wow.

Every which way but loose. Is that a rewatchful? It is for me. Say the word. Clint Eastwood and an orangutan in a truck. Heaven can wait Hooper If we do August 1 for us month

It should be every which way But lose Lincoln What else? And there's so many one for us's Jaws 2 is 7th Revenge of the Pink Panther The Deer Hunter, Halloween and FoulPway Deer Hunter

Top 11 Bring up the Rear Hunter Cranking almost $50 million bucks Rewatchable, come on Oh that's definitely That's not even a one for us month. No. No.

That just came out on Steel. That came out on Steelbook. Yeah. Yeah. Ebert. Four stars. Fucking loved this movie. It's anarchic, messy, filled with energy.

It assaults us. Part of the movie's impact comes from a sheer level of manic energy. It's better made than we might at first realize. It takes skill to create this sort of comic pitch. Probably caught Ebert at the right time of his life, too. I wonder if 1998 Roger Ebert loves it as much. He's coming in, he still has a little bit of like

Russ Meyer vapors coming out of it. No question. But I do imagine if you saw this in 78, it would feel like punk rock. It would feel like he describes it as anarchic, you know? Well, we'll talk about it when we do rewatchable scenes. But there's seven minutes in the middle of this movie where Belushi just goes to another planet.

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Spotify advertising. You're among fans. So Murph's gone. Deeply offended by this content. Yeah, he's not a balushi guy. Most rewatchable scene, really good entrances for Blue Otto, Otter, and D-Day in the beginning. Yeah.

I like a good entrance. You see Pluto, he's just drinking a beer, peeing on people. Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman, damn glad to meet you. I can't wait to talk about Matheson. I really like it for this movie. The Pledge Recruit Sequence, when they're naming everybody. Yeah. Your weasel.

You're a mothball. You're going to be Pinto. Why Pinto? Louis-Louis. I like, Belushi just probably looks. I don't know if he was really drunk for that scene. Louis-O-O-W-O-A. They look hammered.

Yeah. And then we go to the other frat for the thank you sir, may have another. All right, so those are two. Flounder kills a horse, followed by the Dean meeting. Holy shit. The cafeteria scene. Yeah, the food fight. The food, Balushi and the food line.

First, he's eating out of the garbage, basically. Yeah. And then he goes through the food line. That's just like also a six-minute Buster Keaton scene. like it's silent for the most part until he goes, everybody goes and sits down with the preppy kids but like all of that stuff with him

I like when the donut falls off the tray he just keeps going just grabbing stuff putting things on top eats the jello and then he makes the horse sound at that guy and then does the amazit

which I think for me at age 10 or 11 was the height of comedy for me it's the funniest thing of all time entirely improvised in the cafeteria and then they just kind of went. The Amazit thing was apparently improvised too.

They didn't know that was coming. Just a home run. It's up there for me. It might be my most rewatchable. We do have the latter scene, which I guess it's probably a little problematic these days. Yeah, but it's a little bit of a voyeur thing. I mean, but that basically is it invents Revenge of the Nerds and Porky's.

Yeah. Yeah. Turn to the camera eyebrow raise. Yeah. All-timer. the ladder falling backwards is just fucking funny and he just goes back I had

so this seven minutes of Belushi just taking over the movie I almost wonder is this a new category the Victor Wenbenyama award from when somebody just completely annihilates

four minutes of a movie or a game there is no defense for this yeah it's like what's happening he just scored 12 points in two minutes block five shots but that was just

a total Wembe does that Belushi thing it's still funny for your generation, right? Yeah. Okay. What the Germans bond for Pearl Harbor thing? Just everything pollutioned up, but especially the cafeteria. I just feel like it's got to be timeless comedy for however old you are.

Yeah, I think some people might find it like a little juvenile humor that like hasn't aged in like a clever way. But I still think it's really funny. Okay, good. The grocery store scene is underrated? I really like the grocery store scene. Flander just catching 15 things. Also, like you come from. is bigger.

The flirting? There's something about those mid-70s horny housewives that they would have in these movies, like in Slapshot or this movie. They really did it for me. Yeah. Toga Party. I like when Otter takes their coats and

just throws them on the ground. There's so many good little, like, just blink and you miss it, visual psychags in this movie like that. The guitar guy gets demolished. We get shout. This is the Kid Cuddy Pursuit happen. this word for needle drop. I think this is my most rewatchable scene

because I really love the shout performance. I love how it cuts back and forth with the audience. I like, little bit louder now. Like, a little bit louder. Oh my God. Yeah. It's so good that Wedding Crashers was like, let's just do that again. Yeah. They did the homage. Um,

the road trip to the bar to see Otis Day. Yep. Dexter's. Way to Odisius. He loves us. Wormer reading the grades. Yeah. 0.2. Fat, drunken, stupid.

That guy has an amazing voice. And he had like, almost like it seemed like a glass eye or something. John Vernon? But I know he didn't, but he had a way of like, he just always seemed like he was about to say something evil. Just like the way he says double secret probation.

It's so good. Yeah. If you're a character actor in the 70s, you just are like, what I do is wear a suit and I do the same part. in every movie. Yeah, yeah. So I just show up.

I just nail it. The big Bluto speech, which I think is the most famous scene for this movie because it lived on in sports and Jumbotrons for 20 years after. It's kind of the first hold on, let him cook.

Yeah. Yeah, you know? Yeah. He's like, they're like Germans and he's like, hold on, let him, he's cooking. Groggy and Dougie and some of the other Hitler youth

underrated line. Every part of that bullshit thing is great. The parade scene's fun. The parade scene is like a precursor of Blues Brothers, where it's like, we don't really know what to do here. So let's have a giant set piece. Belushi just climbs on top of a building for no reason. I could have fixed it, though, but that's in a category coming up.

Okay, great. And then the closing credits, which I think this movie probably invented. Well, it's certainly Apex Mountain for Z-Want-N-A-O title cards. Yeah, nobody did this before this movie. I have no idea. And I feel like everybody's ripped it off since. There's so many good ones.

Marmalard became a rude Nixon White House aide. It was raped in prison in 1974. Otter became a godacologist, Beverly Hills. Senator and Mrs. John Putarski. Yeah. Just like fucking home runs all over. I like that D-Day's whereabouts were unknown, too. What do you have for most rewatchable?

The most rewatchable scene for me is the Toga Party with Shout. Yeah, I agree. That's just the most fun to watch. What's the most 1978 slash 1963 thing about this movie? I think we have to go with 1978.

Well, I just had the prominence of National Lampoon as a comedy brand. It's like an umbrella that was doing all this different stuff and was launching all these careers.

I have a smoking pot in a dark room as a secret clandestine event. And that you are afraid you might get schizophrenia from it. Yeah,

I had that. I had that. And then Pinto's girl revealing that she's 13 is just insane. Yes. It was insane in 1978. It's out of control.

It's fucking crazy bill. Go 16 or 17? Maybe it's still borderline insane. But 13. She's like, I'm 13 and he still goes for it. He's just like, I guess I have, no, no, no, it's after. But he asks, he has to get, oh, because he has to get married to her first, right? And she's like, hey, mom and dad, this is the guy that molested me.

Yeah. I think doing, in 1978, obviously, nobody in the room or no notes or anything. edits were like, hey, make her older. 13's crazy. Yes. The when would I have died award, I would have killed myself after that girl said I was 13. Yes.

13. Also, she, I mean, the real actress was probably like 20. I just, I don't know if they thought 13 was funny. Or, like, oh, it would be funny if she says she's 30. It's just insane. I can't even begin to imagine. Yeah.

It is the craziest thing in this movie. Because old school basically does, old school, which ripped off multiple parts of this movie. Yes. But they do the... Old school is almost a remake. Yeah. But they do the same thing with with Luke Wilson when he's with

the last year Cuthbert. And it turns out she's in high school. It's crazy. I mean, this girl is lying topless in this movie. And then an hour later, she's 13. It's just nuts. I don't understand it. Yeah. She was 20.

The actress. It's just... It's weird that you nailed that. Well, she looked like she was at least in college. But I think they thought He's like got a great scout's eye 20. Hey, you know, I sized her up. I think they thought 13 would get a big laugh.

Yeah. Look, John Landis. This was 1978. Landis takes some big swings, man. Yeah. In terms of big swings, probably not as big as the Twilight Zone. No.

No. The Floyd Gondoli, butter in my ass and lollipops in my mouth award for something I just enjoy. Man, I just like Louis, Louie and shout. Those songs are undefeated. They still go really hard at weddings. Still play shout at weddings?

Oh, yeah. I think that was going to make my, my category would have just been what's age the best. I have not been to a wedding where shout is not playing. Also, you may think you're better than shout, but every time you go to a wedding and shout plays, you're like, this is the thing that really set the wedding all. It is the single best moment of every wedding is shout.

It still plays. Live band, DJ doesn't matter. Everybody loves shout, getting on the floor. It is still so fun. It's the time when everybody's like, let's get fucked up. The question for, I was going to ask, though, is, did the wedding thing happen? after wedding crashes,

or were people doing that in the 80s after Animal House? After Animal House. Really? Every wedding I went to from the early 90s on, there was Shout. Yeah.

And I assume that was the case in the 80s, too. I mean, the weddings that I have been to have all had Shout. But pre-wedding Crashers. Yeah. Oh, fuck yeah.

Oh, no. Shouts a fucking wedding staple. Yeah. Well, because I just didn't know if, everybody liked the song watching Animal House, but that has nothing to do with a wedding. I didn't know if wedding crashers

made it popular at weddings. No, shout was, you would... Oh. No, no, no, no, no. No, it was a thing before. No, you would go to a wedding even in the early 90s, and it was like, can't wait for shout. You just knew it was coming.

And you knew the band was going to play it. The thing is, like, it's the undisputed champ. Yeah. It's like, who's the best quarterback of all time? It's Tom Brady. Like, there's no argument. It's chocolate ice cream. There's just, like, very few people who are like,

I don't like shout. I don't want to do that. Like, then why'd you come to the wedding? It's just, like, the most, it's a complete communal experience. Everybody knows the moves. It's the best. Yeah, because the fact that you have to, like, go down to the ground and then come back up and get happy again is the key to show. Now, the question is, have you ever done Gator where you jump on the floor and shake it?

I don't remember doing that one. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, shouts Michael Jordan and every once in a while a new song comes in and tries to be LeBron. And then we have an argument about it. It's like, no, no, it's still shit. My, uh, Floyd Gondoli, I like when a movie gets made because, it wasn't going to get made until some random star

from the time period agreed to be in it for two scenes and then they're like, now we can make it. Sutherland's here. Sutherland, he worked for two days. He was offered $25,000 for the two days or 2% of the film's gross.

He took the 25th. And he took the 25K because he thought the movie was going to bomb. It's amazing. We've done 437 rewatchables at this point, 438, something like that. It's amazing how many times the movies were like right on the fringe of not being made

until some random. And then they got somebody to do it. Yeah. Yeah. And Donald Sutherland, it's not like, it was famous, but even I said Ryan Reynolds before, he wasn't even as famous as Ryan Reynolds. It was...

I just think it's a different kind of fame. I mean, he's also like doing... It was a credibility fame. He's still doing like three movies a year pretty much around one. I'd have to look at like his actual filmography, but those people like worked a lot, you know? And I love in the opening credits.

I love when it says at the end. And so and so as Jennings. Yes. And Donald Sutherland as Jennings. It's great. Well, I have him in What's Age the best, too, because I'm convinced he's wearing just his same clothes from invasion of the body. Invasion of the body stachers. It's the same outfit.

He's wearing the same outfit that he wears for an hour of the movie. And he was probably filming the other movie. He probably showed up in a corduroy suit. And they were like, you know, and honestly, that's perfect. And he looks the same. He's got the same hair, the same mustache. It's like he just got pulled out of the movie. So what does the John Milton speech?

She does the My Novel as a piece of shit scene. And then he's in the last scene with Katie. Yeah. He's in. Two and a half scenes basically. The biggest, what's aged the best for this movie is Bluto's speech became an incredibly impactful home game sports movie. Let's get the crowd going during this era that I think is basically over now. But from late 90s, I'd say like 98-99 range through the 2000s, there was like five or six different movies where they would play the scenes.

They would do Rudy. They would do Hoosiers. And this one always brought the house. I feel like 300. 300's a good one. A gladiator. And like, what's another one that's kind of replaced this as like a staple? But I don't feel like they do this anymore.

Because people during the timeouts are just playing music. I think the Lakers used to do 300, like to have 300 playing when they would do the starting lineups. The Celtics would, they got to the point where they just wouldn't run the clip. They would just play the speech. They would do the speech, but they would intersperse it with, you know, Celtics shit. And they would do like the next level recut of it. But Animal House was a major one. And you would just see Ballou, it was like, nothing is over.

Have you ever heard this at a game? I don't think so. Yeah, they don't do it anymore. This was like a 10-year-round. I have more, but what do you have for what's age best? The way that they depict the what is essentially like Smith College, like the Seven Sisters schools. Yeah.

The girl who dies in a kiln explosion. Fawn? And Otter's like, she was going to be. make me a pot. We were engaged to be engaged. But just that whole segment, it's not necessarily a rewatchable scene, but it's so nailed on, like,

that whole, like, women's college thing. Yeah, there's somebody working at the front desk. I had the same thing. Belushi destroying the acoustic guitar. I feel like I've seen, like, a billion times, and, like, is still, like, I think of it. Every time I'd ever go to a party and somebody would be like, there's a guy in the corner playing Dave Matthews, and you're just like,

how funny it would it be to just smash this thing against the fucking wall. be like, sorry. I have a... I think Matheson is tremendous as honor. Unbelievable this time around. I think he's so good in this movie and it's like

kind of looks like Craig, by the way. That's really a compliment. I don't understand why Tim Matheson didn't become a bigger star. I had him coming up, but we could talk about it now. Like, he is actually the could have been Harrison Ford because he was another guy up for Raiders.

Right. And like, he's a little like I think he is like a Hollywood native like whole life like on Western TV shows when he's a little kid and stuff but

well I wonder did he get it's in casting what ifs I'll do one now where they tried to get Chevy Chase Chevy Chase for Otter and he ends up doing foul play I wonder if he just got market corrected by Chevy Chase

well he didn't Fletch with Chevy Chase hilarious because in Fletch he plays the guy who hires Chevy Chase because they look like each other but it's funny to watch him be Chevy Chase's straight man in Fletch, but he's just doing

Chevy Chase in... I think Otter is so fucking funny in this movie. It's great, man. His speech at the trial, where he's like, if the fraternity system is on trial, then the entire system is on trial. I won't have you besmirch the United States of America.

And they walk out seeing Star Spangled Banner. I love how horny is, too. Like, he meets Flaunder's girlfriend. Yeah. And he's like, here, come over here. It's just like clearly going to try to get flounder's girlfriend to go up to his room. He's always trying to have sex with whoever he's in the room with.

But he's like, there's something charming about him. I don't know. That's why the gynecologist thing's so funny at the end. Yeah, it's like, of course. I thought Matheson just killed it. Crazy college Rotsie kids? Yeah. Niedermeyer, when they're all in the thing.

That's also an underrated. We've all been a college with those kids. Yeah. Rigeret and Matheson playing golf. Oh, you're just trying to hit the... Don't think about it as work. Think about it's something you enjoy. This is a small one, but at the beginning, when Flander and Pinto go to the thing to meet

to all the people, like basically the first scene in the movie, and he lets Pinto in, and then slams the door on Flander. And it's like a great, like, it actually seems like he hits him in the thing, but it's just, like, just immediately sets the time. When Flander goes over to Greg and starts talking at him, and then Greg's, like, kind of guides him back to the four rejects, and he's just like... Why? He's just like...

I've already met these guys. And he's like, great. You'll have plenty to talk about. Hand jobs with latex gloves. You think that's aged the best? Yeah, it's hilarious. Flounder in Silent Rage four years later. That is the one for us, month.

Silent Rage? Yeah. We're finally going to end up doing that. But Flounder is Chuck Norris' sidekick in Silent Rage. That would be an amazing collection of films. is just if we did if we did Lincoln silent rage

and we tried to tie me with Netflix it was like hey so I'm not sure how you're gonna promote this in the carousel but it's one for us month Toga parties

did become a thing in the 80s I was at the tail end of it when I was in college I don't think I ever went to to one in college you weren't in a frat no Cort Hoss

were you? Were you? I was in a fraternity for two years and we did throw a toga party in college did you like you were in a junior

and senior Or freshman and sophomore? Freshman sophomore. Why'd you stop? I just, like, honestly, didn't like it. Okay. I don't know. Wow.

Sounds like he got haste. I did go through that. But just not for me. Yeah. We threw the Toga party out of house senior year, actually, not in the frat. Was it fun? It's great. It's the best.

Yeah. The Toga thing became a big thing for about, I would say, 10 years. Never got it. It's also, like, the easiest dress-up party you can go to. Like, everyone just wears a bed sheet. It's the easiest thing in the world. You got to wear like shorts underneath the bed sheet, though, right? Not, not me.

Not Otter. And then this is my high school buddy, Jim Grady, who went to Colgate and I think was president of his flat. He texted this yesterday. Little known secret. I wanted to be Rush Chair at Sigma Chi just so I could say, hi, Jim Grady, Rush Chairman, damn glad to beat you. Not joking.

Apparently really did that. Oh, my God. Yeah. This is a great what's age of best. So they had this bit in the original script, but they didn't film it with the JFK float. And they had the four people dressed like Jackie Onassis on the day he got assassinated.

Oh, yeah. But they had this, they were going to have a car go through his head. And it was going to be in the exit wound spot of when he got assassinated. And then Landis was like, we got to cut this. It's too offensive.

So that's what he was like, we can't do that. But can we, what if she was 13? Right. Some of the 13 was fine. If they had had the car zoomed through his head and the exit wound, I think that would have aged

pretty funnily. In my opinion. It's just like, holy shit, they were really going for it in 1978, but they decided not to do it. And then you mentioned the other what's age the best, Louis, Louis, shamilemma, ding-dong. Shout.

Music's great. I had one last age the best. It's Sarah Holcomb's IMDB. Okay. Sarah Holcomb is Colette, the young girl? Sarah Hulcom is the, yeah, who ends up being Maggie and Caddyshack. Oh, thanks for nothing! She's in four movies.

And then apparently, sadly, had some issues and was out of the industry. Her first movie ever is Animal House, and her last movie is Caddyshack. Her second and last movie is some movie called Happy Birthday Gemini. Okay. And then she makes one other movie. and she's the star of Walk Proud. Do you know what Walk Proud is? I'll just read you what it's about.

Robbie Benson plays Amelia Mendez, a young Chicano gang member in Los Angeles who begins to question his gang life when he meets and starts to fall for a white girl who encourages him to try and leave. Robbie sang the theme song, Adios, yesterday. No. He was a blue-eyed Caucasian real life,

but made up in dark face and wore black contact lenses so he would look like a Latino for the movie. And then all the research is, this movie was reviled. This is considered one of the most offensive movies of all time. This seems like a Robbie Benson passion project, though. Walk Proud.

Yeah. Robbie Benson is Emilio Mendez. Can you imagine this came out now? Like, you've got to be believing in the material. Do we do this for Politically Incorrect Month with Soul Man and a couple others? What if we did Walk Proud with Van, but just like made no comment?

about how weird it was. Yeah, C.R. and I love this movie. Fock Proud. Benson is just in his bag in this movie. But this ties back to them thinking it was a good idea of a 13-year-old.

This is 1978, the star of the cocaine era. Their radar is off. Yeah, people are just, it's like, we got Robbie Benson. He's going to play Emilio Mendez. That movie was released by Universal. Yeah.

By the way, Robbie Benson was like a star because he was coming off one-on-one. This was like his next big prize. So yeah, that did not go well. Anyway, those were her four movies. Great Shot Order Award, would you have? I had the freeze frame of when the horse has the heart attack.

There's fucking nothing better. I would say this goes into what stage is the best. Putting animals indoors, like large farm animals indoors. When you see the four legs just up and the guy brings in the chase off? Carly's like, I'm going to break your legs if you ever try to, like say it. He's measuring the doorway. Oh, it's good. Kahuna Burger for Best Use of Food and Drink,

it's got to be Amazit. It's the buffet or the same. Yeah. Chess Rockwell, Brocklander is a word for best character name. I could give you John Blutarski. What about Mandy Pepperidge? It's pretty good. I have Gregory Marmalard.

Grigory Marmalard raped in prison. What do you have for a flex? Oh, shit. I had the Dennis Beck Reliance. relationship test for Otter. Otter as Dennis Peck with Flanders girl. But she's coming and being like,

Dennis Peck, Los Angeles PD, damn glad to meet you. Butch's girlfriend award weak link of the film, other than the 13 year old. I have, mine is the Greg Mandy Babbs love triangle. It's just

the hand jobs are funny. I don't know if it is the second hand. about this and I'm just kind of like, all right, guys, like this is not germane to why I'm watching animals. The hand job scenes kill me. Yeah. Why is it soft? And he's like, sorry, just this delta thing's on my mind.

Kids 19. All you want to do is get late to do in your 18. My weak link was 1962 is now 64 years ago. It feels like a fucking lifetime. Yeah. I mean, I... Did Ben watch this?

Zoe Simmons, my daughter who's home right now. It was on. She was on her phone the whole time and thought it was too slow, but did enjoy Belushi. Okay. That was her review. Had she seen it before?

No. Okay. No. But yeah, if you're remaking this, I guess we did remake it as old school, basically. The Steven Sagal shitting on himself award

for most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot. I'm going with, so they filmed this at University of Oregon, and they weren't supposed to interact. with the students. But then one day these girls at a fraternity

invite them to a fraternity party all the Delta actors go. They're greeted with hostility from the Oregon students.

Guy widows who played Hoover throws a cup of beer at drunk football players and then up having a brawl and McGill

gets a black guy widows got teeth and then Belushi was a loose teeth. And then Belushi was filming SNL, came back, found out about the fight,

and they had to physically restrain him from going to find the football players and fighting them. He's a fucking real one. I love the detail in the New York Times and oral history. I think Widow says he was basically like hooking up with a girl whose dad was a dentist. So he got in at 8 in the morning the next morning and get his teeth fixed. The Ed Norton reversed dunk award for did this movie need a random sports scene? So can I get rid of like one of the two handjob scenes? And just have like an intramural football scene or something?

Rugby. This is exactly what I was going to say, which is this movie needed to end with a flag football game or a intramural football game to decide whether or not they could stay in college. And I went as far as to just break down... Oh, let's go.

I didn't even know you did this. 1962 football positions. So you got quarterback, halfback, fullback, center garden ends. So Otter's QB. Otter, definitely, QB. Probably a good QB. Incredible.

Pocket presence. Yeah. Maybe like, Little Brady-ish, charisma-esque, you know, sure. Kind of Jimmy G. a little bit,

but like would excel in the McVeigh system. Unfortunately, back then it was like 90% runs, but half back, you go Boone. I like Rygert. I think he's crafty.

Probably some speed. Going between the tackles. Fullback, obviously, Bluto. Center, I go D-Day, kind of calling it all out, Kelsey style, seized all the coverages.

Interesting. I could see him as a tight end, too. Yeah. And then guard flounder. You got to put him somewhere. And then my wide receivers are Hoover

and Stork. Stork. What is it? What is Widow says? Or no, Otter when he's like, Stork,

when you came here, everybody thought you were in. Thought you were brain damage. That's Doug Kenny, by the way. Yeah. Now, I don't know what the other team would. But this is basically Revenge of the Nerds

decided, oh, we should actually, this will be our ending. We'll have that. If they just remade the end of the longest yard, I would have been like,

that's great. Nice job. Yeah, so you could have gone football. basketball would have been weird. Softball. No, because it feels like it's fall there. It feels like it's... So rugby would have been the other one, I think?

Or you could have done track at Hayward Field at Oregon. That's true, but they're supposed to be at Dartmouth, right? Like, this is supposed to be the Northeast, isn't it? Yeah, but there's a shot. The ROTC thing, you see Hayward Field behind them, the big track. Dude, among the things that has aged the best is Eugene as a college town. Oh, yeah. I've been there a few times recently.

So 7V7, 1962, Intramural Football. something. And it's like, we'll let you stay in school if you win this. Belushi definitely scores the way to touchdown. And old school does a big gymnastics scene. It's basically do a decathlon or like Olympics. This movie's still huge at Oregon. I mean, they play shout at in between every third and fourth quarter. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's age the worst? I'm sure the Belushi Boyer stuff wouldn't go over awesome these days. we mentioned the 13-year-old girl

and then the angel devil scene yeah I had that one Angel devil scene statutory rape prominent confederate flag on the wall attitudes about animal cruelty the angel devil scene really hits the jackpot

of things that would never happen again especially when we find out how young the girl is but I got to say it's the point the devil's like, fucker, fucker. I have one more

What's Age the Worst, which is a personal preference thing because obviously he was relatively successful around this. I just would love to have seen the Reitman or Ramos version of this movie directed. I think Landis is like, this one in Blues Brothers feels so flat to me. Yeah.

And he loves to do like a big master shot where there's like lots of psychags and like, recurring bits or whatever. But I just wish it had a little bit more pizzazz with the direction. And I like what he did with trading places, so it's not like I don't like any John Landis movies. And I mean, Kentucky Frye movie was still like

the hardest I ever actually laughed in my life up into that point. But these two, like, Blues Brothers and Animal House are like kind of like a little too static for my tastes. Yeah, Landis, I'm trying to think of like there's coaches over the years that get too much credit for the teams they had. Like Casey Jones was like this Like what a coach He was like he had Bird Parish

McHill and Bill Walton And you know We've seen football coaches like this too Or Mike McCarthy Right We're not to find out How dare you Well Mike McCarthy that one year

And it's like Mike McCarthy What a coach And then you know He's available and starts bouncing around And I wonder with Landis The people he had on Animal House Now I'm sure he gets credit for some stuff And he's been really good

In the different books of Spinning stuff his way making it seem like he was the hero. I think even in the oral history for Animal House, Ramos is like he immediately started calling it his movie. Yeah. And everybody was like, what the fuck, man? Like, this is all of our life stories.

He's pretty famous for revisionist history stuff. And it seems like a lot of the people that I've worked with him aren't that flattering about him after the fact. Yeah. Like Eddie Murphy was another one that really turned on him. Eddie worked with him a bunch. I know. But the last one, coming to America, he turned on him.

And then... But didn't Landis do like the Beverly Hill? cop that said at like Disney World basically? The bad one. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. Obviously he was talented, but I also feel like if

Reitman or Ramos had directed this, I'm pretty sure it still would have been funny. There's some racism stuff that probably makes sense because it's set in 1962, but that when you watch it, you're like, oh, what's your major primitive cultures? And then it just cuts right to Otis. It's like, yeah.

Well, and like the mayor has the lawn job. Rocky statue, the Confederate flag. The only other woods aged to worst, this inspired a lot of copycat stuff, including they made a ABC sitcom called Delta House. You ever seen it? No. Dean Wormer was in it. So was Flounder.

McGill was in his D-Day. Widows was in his Hoover. Michelle Pfeiffer made her acting debut. And then Bluto's brother, Blotto, played by Josh Mistel. Zero Mustel. Yeah. Yikes.

Then CBS decided. decided to co-ed fever about all-female Baxter College one episode. And then brothers and sisters on NBC are frat and sorority sitcom three months. I never watched any of these. And in the late 70s, I watched everything. I was an only child. I did not watch this. The Hans Gruber scale villain ranking.

Neidermeyer or Dean Wormer in the finals? I think Nadermeier's pretty iconic. Can I make the case for Dean Wormer? Please. He hates these guys so much that he fails the amount of college and then says, and I notified the local draft boards that you are now eligible.

That is like as evil as a guest. He's like, I'm actually going to send you guys off to be murdered. Yeah. So I'd vote for him. Neidermier, just try to shoot somebody

during the parade chaos. I will give. So then if you say that, I'll do the Ruffalo Hanna Rubenek Award. I'll give it to Mark McCaff for Niedermeier's spittal champion like spitting in Flounder's face during Rotsie. Well, he,

they twisted sister. had the, we're not going to take a video. And they bring Niedermeyer back to basically play Niedermeier again, yelling at D. Snyder. And that actor Mark McHaff basically became, he became Niedermeier. Yeah. It was like we've talked about,

I think that's a rewatchables category actually in the flexes. Did you, can you escape this? Yes. Yeah. This character. All right, we'll take a break. And then we'll do Hottest Take. All right, the CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford.

Hottest Take Award. What do you got, CR? Can we just talk this out for a second? Yeah. Is this movie or is Belushi's career different if he plays Flounder? If Belushi doesn't do like a Belushi like mega performance. He saves Bluto for the next one? Yeah, or maybe like you do Animal House too and Flounder becomes Bluto or something like that.

I know he's probably a little old to play a freshman. Yeah. But I would have loved to have seen Belushi like try one different like sort of He does that in Neighbors, which I saw in the theater, where he plays the straight man, basically. Yeah. And you're just sitting there the whole time waiting for a new pollution. The only other one was like literally the Tim Matheson thing,

where I was just like, this guy does this movie. He's got like literally like the Platonic Ideal movie star looks. Goes up for Raiders. It's him, Tom Selleck, Jeff Bridges, and Harrison Ford. Just got market corrected a couple times. Ended up like, by the time we got to the 90s, he's in a lot of those lifetime type of movies. He's like the dad who's attracted to the nanny.

He is like later period probably highlight would be when he's the VP on West Wing. Right. My, uh, my hottest take. I think this movie caused more copycat damage than any other movie ever made. Damage? Yeah. I think it completely wrecked two generations of college kids trying to, basically this was,

give them the blueprint for like, let's go fucking crazy tonight. They would have done it anyway, but this movie gave them a map. Yeah. To be like... We could have a frat. Like, all this stuff was kind of happening anyway, but I think this movie, like, was the gasoline and the fucking match for an entire generation.

I think you could also make the argument that even outside of Animal House, like, outside of the Greek system, there's some influence of Animal House on interior design in houses lived in by, like, three or more men. Three or more guys. Like, where you have, we just put an air hockey table that we found on the sidewalk and hung it on the wall. You know what I mean?

Or, like, the TV is. on a milk crate, and we have three movies and we watch them on a loop. I think this movie killed more brain cells than any other movie ever. In terms of the impact it had on kids going to college in the future? Yeah, I think just kids being like, someday I'm going to college, I'm going to be like

the animal house guys, and just going fucking nuts. Casting with ifs, the initial cast wish list, Chevy Chase is Otter, Bill Murray is Boone, Brian Doyle, Murray is Hoover, Dan Ackroyd is D-Day, and Belushi's Blue Doe. And Lorne wouldn't let...

That Lauren thing's not true. Okay. I don't think he ever would have not let somebody do a movie. Like, Ackroyd has said, because they'd based D-Day on Ackroy because he wrote a motorcycle, and he feels like he should be in this movie. But they're filming it during season three of S&L, and Ackroyd was like a huge part of the show. And he felt like if both him and Blushie were flying back and forth doing a movie, it would hurt the show. And that's why he said he didn't do it.

I believe that story more than I just don't think Lauren would be like, you're not doing this. I'd love to try and see how I did now. I mean, I'm a little too old probably, but, like, I would love to try and do, like, bi-coastal potting and just see, like, if I could do... Oh, C-Rs in New York, Monday to Wednesday? Yeah, and then I'm back here to do rewatchables Thursday Friday. I'd be dead.

Yeah. Like, the rewatchables has been canceled this week because Bill died from flying back and forth. Chase turned down the film for foul play, and there's, of course, Landis and Chase disagree on what happened. Like, just absolutely busting each other's balls in the press. Yeah, Landis, who I think does... spin stuff toward his version of things.

He's like, I didn't want Chase to be in it. I told him it was going to be an ensemble. You should do foul play. Yeah, I was like, you're not going to be the star of this movie. And I had Jedi mind tricked him and they're saying no. And Chase was like, I was offered foul play with Goldie Hawn. Like, of course I was going to do that. And I think he was like, as usual, John Landis is full of shit or something like that.

John Landis is full of shit as it usually is. Ramos wrote the part for Boone for himself, but they decided he looked too old, is funny because half the people in this movie looked to old. And I think that was another Landis call and Ramos was pissed off about it. Still mad about it. Landis wanted Jack Webb from Dragnet and Kim Novak

to play the Wormers and Jack Webb thought this movie is not funny. Bigger question is, does Craig know who Jack Webb is? I don't. Did you ever see the... Tom Hanks, did Dan Aykroyd Dragnet? No. Yeah. Two generations removed from

not knowing who he is. Reitman wanted to direct but had no directing skills. And they said, no thanks. That's that guy at word. Really tough because this movie came up 48 years ago. I went with John Vernon. I think Flounder is that guy. I don't think people know what his real name is.

Yeah, I guess, but he's not in a ton of stuff. Yeah. Neidermeyer would be the other one. Yeah. Dion Waiters. I could offer you Donald Sutheran for two and a half scenes. I could offer you Dean Wormer. Wormer's wife.

I could offer you Otis Day or I could offer you Shelley the girl who is Fawn's roommate who really wanted Otter to feel better about things. The girl's Fawn's roommate cracks me up. That girl's great. She's really good. She's really good, but I'm going to go with Sutherland

just because it is like a classic Dion Waders of like I'm in two scenes. Everybody's like, that's Donald fucking Sutherland. He's in MASH. And then, yeah. I have Dean Warmer's wife. You can get your friend. finger out of my ass.

You love a drunk witchy. I love drunk and witchy. Great stuff. Can I, just for casting what ifs? I mean, I guess this is also casting couch director city.

It's pretty legitimate research that this movie was offered to a bunch of major directors. Yeah. So John Schlesinger, who did midnight cowboy? Yeah, did you believe this? It's in the New York Times oral history.

So I was kind of like, maybe this is true, but it went out at least to Schlesinger. Alan Bucula. Mike Nichols and George Roy Hill and Bob Raffleson. I didn't understand that at all. That's amazing.

George Roy Hill directed this. Well, I mean, he was probably directed Slapshot. It wouldn't have been completely out of the question. I just can't imagine why any of those people would have done this. Which of those directors do you think would have been like? So the 13-year-old. Pekula. What are we doing?

Do I hear 15? I forgot to mention Shelley. Two IMDB credits. What's the other one? an episode of Charlie's Angels Oh, okay. That was it. I thought she was good.

I would have liked to have seen her more stuff. She was Robbie Benson's Chicano girlfriend and walked out. She dated Emilio Mendez before somebody else. Recasting couch director, City, would you have? I think I would like to see Reitman

do this one. Yeah, I would writeman as director. Craig, flex. Jamie Lee Curtis, unnecessary nudity, but I think all of the nudity in this movie is defensible because it's all at the surface

of these loser horny college kids. Sure, I actually think all of it's fine for 1978 and it's totally fine. There's one scene where I'm like, Karen Allen's just bare ass in that one scene. I don't know why that's in the movie. And that's why Sutherland's ass is out is apparently he was like,

if she was going to have to take her pants off, I was going to take my pants out. Oh, wow. Like in solidarity? Sutherland. Yeah, that's very nice. Because the rest is like, sure, Balusie's a creep. He's looking in it.

All of it actually kind of works. And then there's just the beginning of a scene Karen Allen is putting on a dress. We haven't really talked about her in Riger. In what sense? Just as like they're like in kicking and screaming in this movie. Like they're in the most like relatable normal relationship. Could he use like one more scene with that? Yeah.

One less hand job scene. Karen Allen. She looks great. Looks great. Really one of a kind. Yeah. Something really just like fetching and approachable. Did you have a girlfriend in college when you were like,

I love the Boston Red Sox and drinking. beer and hanging out with my friends who was just like, when are you going to grow up? Yeah. Yeah. Her like pouring beers at the beginning of the movie behind the bar at Delta, you're like, fuck. But is all, yeah, like, that was also,

she's also like the coolest thing ever, yeah. That's what I like about the character is I'm not positive. She exists in real life. Sure. Trying to think of any friend girlfriend I had who was like. No, she's like the platonic ideal of a woman in that scene. Yes. Half Senter research.

We mentioned University of Oregon. allowed them to use the campus for 20K but they were like, don't mention us. And then all these years later, they have like a tour when you go. Here's all the filming locations. Then you shout between the third and fourth quarters of every football game.

Just don't watch the movie, but know that we were in it. Black extras had to be bust in from Portland due to the scarcity around the college campus. Jesus Christ. Wow. In 78? Yeah.

Landis brought the deltas five days early so they could all bond. And they all bond. And they all bond. the Bruce McGill's room became party central, and then the omegas were in another part, and they all didn't really like each other. It's weird that on a movie,

like, Animal House, they're doing, like, method acting rules. Because I think I read that, like, Greg wanted to party with them, but it was like, you know, I couldn't really. So, like, it just put me more into character. And I was like, come on, man. Do you think they took movies more seriously in the 1970s? Because we made less of them, right?

So if you're in this, it's like, this is a big deal. We have to... Now I just feel like, I'm like, yeah, I'm an animal house, then I'm going to do a thing on friends and neighbors and then you're just kind of bouncing around. I don't know. I think there's also something about like, you know,

these movies back then like also excelled it like finding unknowns. And so people were probably like, this is my big break. I'm going to take it seriously even if it's Animal House. True. Belushi went to local nightclubs during filming,

checked out bands, became fascinated by a musician named Curtis Salgado who wore sunglasses and loved the blues and it became the Blues brothers. they almost did a sequel, Craig. It was going to take place during the 1967 Summer of Love, a reunion at Otter's wedding. Yeah.

Which is funny in itself. Otter was going to get married. But then when more American graffiti bombed the box office, I saw that movie in the theater. Universal stalls the project. Belushi dies and they're done. Yeah, this would have been, it was going to be said at Hey, Ashbury.

I don't know if it necessarily would... It's kind of into the idea. I don't know. Yeah, but it's like it's a different sensibility than the one that was in this one. This kind of like Ivy League prick sensibility. Duane Jesse played Otis Day. This is my favorite piece of research.

Purchased the rights to the character name. They made it up and became Otis Day in the nights. But he doesn't do the music in the movie. He's lip-syncing. Yeah. And Landis finds out like 25 years later that this guy has been just touring the country doing Otis Day. He's like, good for him, I guess.

Yeah. Stephen Bishop, no relation to my buddy Bish, who was also named Steve Bishop. this is a running joke for us that there were two Steve Bishops Yeah He was the guy with the guitar Oh, okay

Keys had a career He had a career in his own Started dating Karen Allen After they met in the set Dated for years Wrote the song Separate Lives Based on their breakup

That became a hit song For Phil Collins And Marilyn Martin Huh And was in the movie White Nights All because of Animal House Yeah Emotional

Not in a great karaoke song No. Bruce McGill and Tim Madison starred in Black Sheep. They're the only actress to start with Chris Farley and John Belushi. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then Universal's film president, Ned Tannen, wanted them to cut the entire black bar scene. Thought there would be riots across America.

Big argument back and forth. They sent the movie to Richard Pryor. And he sent Ned a note saying, Animal House is fucking funny. White people are crazy. and that ended up saying. So this movie really hit the gamut of weird things to touch. Apex Mountain, Belushi, yes.

Yeah. Tim Matheson. I'm going to say yes. Felt like the world was his oyster after this movie. Cafeterious scenes. Is he also in 1941 with Belushi? Is Matheson in that? Yeah. Cafeteria scenes?

Spent some great cafeteria scenes. Yeah. Dining hall scenes. but this is probably up there. This is the best food fight I've ever seen. Yeah, I think at narrowly edge is just one of the guys that made Greg Tolan. Craig didn't like that movie.

It just beats it out, yeah, barely. John Landis? I think trading places personally. Yep. I agree. Hand jobs? Why is it soft? I kind of want to Google greatest movie hand jobs,

but I'm a little worried this is a work computer. Stephen first. Yeah, definitely. definitely. It goes on to play Dorfman again multiple times, right? Yeah. Peter Raghgard? No. But I can't off the top of my head think of what

it is, maybe. I think it was Animal House for years, but now I think it's Sopranos. Okay. He dates the Russian hooker. And then Tony beats the shoot out of him. Crossing Delancey and local hero with the two that I remember, yeah. College movies, I'm going to say yes. Toga parties, yes. Do you have a second favorite college movie?

Old school. Do you have a third favorite? Road trip. I think road trip's excellent. I really like that movie. I think everybody wants some is way up there for me now. It's getting there.

It's aging really nice. Were you ever a PCU fan? Never really love Piven. Okay. Yeah. You've only watched his television series 9-10s. Lloyd!

Lloyd! Cruise or Hanks? Hanks. I think Hank. I think Hanks could do Otter. Scorsese or Spielberg? This is really tough. Neither of them, obviously.

It's two different, entirely different films. I think it's definitely Spielberg. He basically tries to do this in 1941 to some degree. Scorsese would be like, there's cocaine, there's all kinds of shit going on. It's like when Belushi's on the ladder, he's just like scary. Pickin'nits. I have a few. Does Dean Wormer really need to go digging into the school's constitutional?

to find a reason to expel these guys. They're clearly like... They don't go to class, they're all going to zero point zero. He's like, we got to put them on probation. We have to look for all these reasons to get about it. Just fucking kick them out. A few of the actors,

too old for college, no question, but I think that's part of the joke. Wouldn't Mandy hear Bluto on the ladder or see him? Yes. He's moving the ladder over. And could you actually even do that? It's like a 12-foot ladder.

Could you jump it up but move it like that? If Flounder's brother was also had been in the frat wouldn't he kind of understand if his car got destroyed on like a frat road trip weekend? Yeah, true. And also like I'm not sure I totally understand

why Boone's being such an idiot with Katie. Like, guy Karen Allen, man. Yeah, what are you doing being like, I got to go on a date with a bunch of like Smith College girls for a weekend. Mrs. Wormer goes to the Delta Party. Yeah. It's insane.

There's no way that happens. She's like, get me a drink. Fond dies in a kiln explosion. Awesome. I just need more information. That's why you fire the pots. Yeah. So you do your, you do, you shape the clay and everything.

You put it like a lacquer on it. And it's just exploded. But it's like a fucking super oven. Yeah. They used to have those in my like arts and crafts classes. And spotted more information. And they would always be like, it was really weird now that I think back about like shop and arts and crafts class.

when I was a kid, because we were around like table saws and kilns and all these chemicals for black rooms, for dark rooms, for photos. Yeah. And it was like, yeah, you guys, just don't drink that. And don't put your hand in the oven.

Right. Why didn't we see Flounder puke on Dean Wormer? I don't know. Big miss. I think this movie's made 20 years later we see the puke. Yeah. He's like just covered in puke.

They'll figure it out. Can you really just buy 10,000 marbles? Flounder buys 10,000. thousand marbles. I think how many marbles that is. I love that that scene is literally one second long. He cuts them. He's like, 10,000 marbles, please? And would a store have 10,000 marbles?

I don't even know. Can you go to a store right now by 10,000 marbles? How did they see out of the float car, the Eat Me Float car? It was like a, it's like a tank, basically. I don't know. Every time they cut to it, it's just completely covered with float stuff.

Yeah. And they're, Bruce McGill's just just driving it around. It's insane. That whole sequence is so nuts. Yeah. Sequel, Prequel, Prestige, TV, all black cast or untouchable. I think a sequel could have worked

if Belushi hadn't died. I think a reunion thing would have been really funny. I think they could have just been a franchise where they just kept making animal houses set throughout the decades. Big mistake. I guess they just let...

I mean, we had four American pies. Yeah. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie of the Flores, Zane Lo, Robert Evans, or somebody else. Boone, here you are, man. Higher education,

but we find you at an all-time low. Committing statutory rape. Binge drinking, not taking your studies seriously. My Zane is rusty. I'm sorry. Probably. Where do we go from here?

And where's your 13-year-old child bride going to go with you? We've inspired by Jerry Lee Lewis. I have. had a, I had Dr. Charles Nichols. You'll have to excuse my friend John Butoski. He's not feeling well. It'll be good.

Just want to ask her who gets a blushi? I guess so. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Probably in answerable questions. Did this movie create double secret probation? Yeah.

Was this a term that existed before this movie? I'm going to say it did not exist. Maybe it was taken. from their college experience, but it is very funny. Yeah. Would you have? Did this movie invent

not only the sex comedy, but the college comedy, and what were these guys majoring in? Communications. Was that a major back then in 1962? It would have been funny if Bluto was a big political science guy. It's like, Middle East, man,

stuff's happening there. He's pre-med, right? But pre-law, same thing. Did the omegas create the Illuminati? The Frat, was pretty, pretty fucking creepy. It's really real, you know? Kubrick got eyes wide shut from that scene.

This is my big one. Was Greg gay? I guess so. I can't remember where it's possible. Two of the hottest girls at that. Mandy and Babs, those are hot. Was against premarital sex and could barely get it up for a hand job

in the car and a thing? Just have some suspicions. Seem really, really interested in feuding with the deltas? I don't know, Craig. Very repressed. Yeah, something's going on with him. The memorabilia you'd want from this movie.

So many choices. This is easy for me. It's the fishbowl boobs from behind the bar. I had the college sweatshirt, Belushi, work. Yeah, that's a great one. That's a good one. Which you can get on it. I mean, everybody ripped that off since you can buy that.

I was actually going to try to speed rush that to wear that for the part. Couldn't figure it out. Coach Finstock, Mr. Miyagi, best life lesson. Don't Get Mad, Get Even. No, I had your only young ones. Hmm. Double feature? Old school.

I have Revenge of the Nerds. I've never seen Revenge of the Nerds. I don't know if that would ever be a rewatchful. Hard to find. As soon as it's streaming again, it's going to be a rewatchable. Come on, Ted Sarandos. Come on, Ted. Do the right thing?

You love comedy, right? You're a big comedy fan. What do you have for Double Feature? God. I guess it's old school, yeah. Probably old school. Another one would be Project X. Project X for the debauchery, yes

You can go neighbors, I guess. It's a great one. But yeah. Fucking Ben had a project X party at our house. He did? Yeah. What do you mean, though? Like a themed party or it was like a project party?

It was supposed to be 125 people and it turned out to be 400 in the police game. When did this happen? Eh, two months ago. You fucking kept that under the rug? Yeah. Well, I was mad about it. And Ben was not happy about it. And then six months later, he's like, it's like when I had my project next part.

I'm like, you motherfucker. Did Ben try to do that? Look, Dad, no one's more disappointed about this than me. He did. He played all the fucking tricks. Was it like kids from other schools started showing up? Yeah, it was people throwing up in the street. It was a fucking amazing.

Disaster. But Ben's a mastermind. I think he did all of it. But did anything go wrong? Did anything burn down? Did anything go around? We were still here. Nothing burned down.

The cops did come. Are you still finding, like, cigarettes in random places and stuff? It's the maddest I've ever been in him. But I should have known. But the thing is, he can never have a party here again. I should have showed up, like the Dean's wife. You probably, I honestly wouldn't have been surprised. It would have been amazing if we were like, I heard about this party tonight.

Weird. It's a film. Who won the movie? Polushi. Craig, give us your thoughts. I love this movie. I like it more now than I ever have. When I watched it, whatever, 10 years ago, closer to Zoe's,

opinion. I was like, okay, it's a little underwhelming, maybe. The pacing is just different the way it's cut. But I don't know why. Watching it, I had an absolute blast. It's such a great hang. Because it's a hang movie, which is rare now. It's not really, there's not like a lot of like hard jokes, punch

lines in this film. It's more like dirty, dazed and confused. You know what it is too? It's, it's just short stories. So, like, until the last 30 minutes, there's basically no coherent. It's not really a plot. You know? It's like, here's all these funny things that happen to these guys in college.

And then at the end, it's like, they have to stay in college. So there's going to be a parade. Yeah. It's just more about the hang. And this movie, for all of it, you know, that it's like, it hasn't aged well in certain ways. But it's just like your fun, drunk uncle who is hilarious. And you just put up, it's like this. When was the last time you'd seen it before you watch it for this?

Every couple years. I'll jump in. I like the interplay between the guys. Like, there's real friendship in this movie, which I think a lot of movies have borrowed since. I think it's actually just quite well acted. I think it's underratedly well-acted across the board for how dumb this movie seems like it is. Yeah, Matheson.

Rigerd. Riggard's great. They're all really good at it. I think he's really funny in this. And I think movies back then, compared to comedies now, like, I don't know, even though this movie's about a lot of stupid stuff,

like there are a lot of commentaries on society and what's going on across the country. And now I think comedies are a little bit more siloed in what they're trying to say and they're more just about, like, the punchline on the screen. There's also like comedies are a little bit more high concept now. So it'll be like, this is a comedy about how like a guy will die in five days

if he doesn't meet the love of his life. I just watched a college movie on a Hulu pizza movie, which is starring a stranger thinks kid and it's all about like a kid in a dorm who takes drugs trying to get pizza. And I mean, it is what it, but it's like, it's not saying anything. It's just a fun, crazy comedy about a guy taking drugs in college, but it's not, it's not wider than the very narrow scope of the movie. Right. And these movies back then were just, we're different. They're sneaking some Watergate Vietnam Nixon stuff in here too in smart ways that's not

over the top like what we have now Yeah and I think that their sort of umbrella excuse for the way that this movie and I you know the 13 year old stuff is almost so beyond the pale But like they're like it was an Equal opportunity we made fun of everybody Yeah you know kind of thing

I also think sometimes when you have to work Within parameters the movie gets better Like you know the script was apparently way way way rauncher than it actually was but universal kind of putting like guardrails on the movie I actually think ends up

you have to make it work and actually make it funny for it to validate being in the film and it can't just be raunchy for raunchy sake because there's like rape scenes apparently that they cut. Yeah. So I think sometimes when you have kind of

the off-the-wall style and you pair it with a studio and you have to kind of land in the middle sometimes it is the best outcome. It's a movie magic baby. It's a classic. That's it for Comedy Month. We ended up doing four

quote-unquote politically and correct movies. something about Mary, Tropic Thunder, Borat, Animal House. Yeah, four movies that definitely pushed the envelope for different ways. What was the funniest one for you to go back

and revisit? Which is the one that you feel like? Honestly, Borat. Yeah. I was just, you missed that episode. You were at High Fitz's wedding. Borat just,

I was on the treadmill and I almost fell off like four times. I don't know why. It just fucking kills me. It's really, but all of them, I thought, held up really well.

I think there's something about Mary is, as we've been with that movie now for 28 years, so you know all the bits, but it's still, Warren still makes me laugh. Especially when Warren came back

in the last Survivor episode. Did you see that? Jonathan's brother came back, dressed like Warren. That's right. Yeah, it was amazing. Comedy month, though, pretty fun. What's next?

So we're doing, we're going to do summer from hell starting next week. All movies that are dot, dot, dot, dot, from hell. We've talked about this for a long time. You want to announce the June 1st movie or no? Yeah, so the first one is going to be 2001 computer from hell.

And then Netflix licensed a bunch of movies for this. So it's going to be, and I don't know if we're going to do all of them, but hand that rocks the cradle, single-wife female, good sun, Pacific Heights, which I don't know if they're able to license. That's the one I was most excited about. I know you're excited about that one. Domestic disturbance, which is in the running for funniest. unintentionally funniest movie of the 2000s.

Yeah. And a bunch of others. So they're all on there. So from how it might be last longer than a month. Okay. Might be like a month and a half. What a way to ring in the World Cup. We do some mailbacks as well.

Yeah. In honor of our World Cup people. All right. Thanks, Craig. Thanks, Kehow. Thanks, Chris Ryan. See you next week and we're watching. Later.