The Rewatchables - ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan

Episode Date: May 10, 2022

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan fracture an occasional law to rewatch the 1987 comedy ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ starring Eddie Murphy, Judge Reinhold, and Brigitte Nielsen. Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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If you like this podcast, I guarantee you'll like that one. You also like the big picture with Sean Fantasy, obviously. Coming up. I wasn't always a cop, Chris. Fractured an occasional law or two in my day. Beverly Hills Cop 2. It's next. I'm going deep, deep, deep undercover.

Axel Foley is back. Hey, look, man, I'm a business man, okay? I got to make moves. I'm moving. Cut me out. He's Detroit's gift to Beverly Hills. So how long I want to take the shave those legs anyway? Get out of here, you degenerate.

I want you out of here. Is this a black thing? Oh, this is a big mistake, a big mistake. Eddie Murphy, Beverly Hills Cop 2. Redid R. All playing at a theater near you. All right, Chris Ryan is here. This is a borderline one for us, even though this is the second biggest movie of 1987.

Very complicated legacy with this movie. Went over budget. People were worried about it. It was a sequel. It was the 80s. It was the cocaine era. It was the excess era. It's a really fun movie.

to research. The people who made it were like, eh, we got a missed. Yeah, whatever. Eddie Murphy, his actual quote from him, Beverly Hills Cop 2 was probably the most successful, mediocre picture in history. It made $250 million worldwide and it was a half-ass movie. Cop 2 was basically a rehash of Cop 1, but it wasn't as spontaneous and funny. Chris Ryan and I are here to disagree.

We love this movie. It hurts my feelings that people involved were like, eh, that was kind of a miss. or, we made money, but we could have done better. Disagree. Really enjoyed it. I've enjoyed it for 35 years. Has some floss. But it's like throwing on an old sweater, Chris. Just throw it on, watch it, spend some time with Taggart of Rosewood and the gang. Great stuff.

Well, Brigitte Nilsson. Yeah, I think that this one, you know, this is directed by Tony Scott, which I'm sure we're going to talk about a lot. This now might be Tony's getting into the Fincher zone, I think, with how many rewatchables we've done with Tony Scott now. Yeah, he's got to be number two, I would guess, for directors. But in a lot of ways, I kind of think of this one as directed by Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckriver, because it has all of the 80s cocaine excess that I associate with them during this decade.

Yeah, a barely coherent plot. Yes. Just missing scenes, missing everything. It probably weird, they could have been 10 to 15 minutes longer. you read, you go back and you read, I was able to, I've talked on in the past about how I bought a bunch of premiere magazines from the first five years. They wrote about this movie in the first episode of premiere magazine. And it's basically a what the fuck happened on the set movie. Here's some highlights.

Cop two ate up the energy of two executive producers, two producers, one director, six writers, and various production executives of personnel at Paramount. That's how this starts. It was the script was rewritten dozens of times. It was not finalized until three weeks before production. It was rewritten daily by a succession of writers during production and even post-production. Ironically, the highly choreographed action and dialogue sequences were often thrown out to accommodate Eddie Murphy's improvisations. Schedules and budgets were as hard to control as Murphy's takes. Ten weeks of shooting turned into 20 weeks, with additional weeks added to the post-production schedule.

The film was said to have cost as much as $4 million more than its $25 million budget, not counting a conservative estimate of $10 million for marketing advertising. This is all in the beginning of this premiere piece. I just quoted all that. And yet the movie, it crushed. And you could argue Eddie Murphy made $8 million plus, you know, like percentage and profits, all that stuff. You could have paid him $50 million and it would have been worth it for.

1987, Eddie, just name your price. It's like getting LeBron in 2013. The first movie has like a much more coherent story, you know, I mean, it obviously has the fish out of water thing going for it. That's basically one of the best fish out of water movies ever made is probably the cop. This one is essentially a showcase because I was noticing this time around. How many scenes are essentially built around. Eddie's going to walk into a room and do a bit.

Yeah. Eddie's going to play Johnny Wishbone. Eddie's going to play the guy with Monique and Unique, you know, his daughters. Eddie's going to be the building inspector. Eddie's going to be the pool cleaner. Like all of these scenes. Eddie's at the Playboy Mansion just out in the arms dealers. Yeah.

All of this movie is essentially built around like let Eddie cook. It's like watching a team with one heliocentric good player. It's like watching Luca just be like, it's going to stand back here. And my fadeaway 17 footer is the best piece of offense we can get. And you know what? He's right. Like Eddie Murphy just cooking like this is actually like super entertaining. And in an hour and 35 minutes, it's really not a taxing experience.

Yeah, and it's a movie that's, it's trapped between trying to resemble the first one, but it's also Tony Scott trying to be Tony Scott. And he has some ideas too. So there's, I think the thing you and I like, there's this really cool 80s action movie kind of side to this. It's like an LA crime movie, yes. Yeah, and it could have gone further. I mean, my biggest note is I wish the alphabet killer had done more crimes.

We got A, B, C, D, we ended up in E, C, and D. were combined, you could have told me this, we could have gone to J, we could have gotten a K. Could have just kept going. I would have wanted to, uh, watching Brigitte Rob a Jury's store. I don't know if I got better than that in the 80s. Here's the thing. If a movie features a scene where there is a robbery and the robber is calling out the amount of time that they've been in there and how much time they have left, we're in?

Probably going to be a rewatchable at some point. Two minutes. 30 seconds. That was no. They're always looking at the clock. They haven't mapped out perfectly. And the cops are always like they knew our response time. Yeah.

Yeah, they're always like flummox that somebody knew the response time. Yeah, pretty sure we can figure that out in five seconds. It's got the Harold Faltermeyer. It just kicks off with the... Dan-na-na-na-na-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-and. And it's just feels there's a little suspense in it. You know, it's like almost like with the first one, you forget it's a comedy and then Eddie all of a sudden is smiling and doing something and he's loosening it up.

I wish to lean more into the action thing. I feel like I had Tony Scott at this really early fun stage of his career too. I'm sure there's like the leaded stuff that they probably didn't make the cut, right? Yeah. I mean, I think when you watch Beverly Hills Cop One, there's a world in which that almost feels like an extension of like 70s cop movies. Like especially all the Detroit stuff and the Jimmy Russo stuff and it feels kind of like, This is like a modern version at that time of, of like that 70 cop, 70s, cop movie. And then this one feels like super 80s to me. You know, everything is glossier. Everything is like the machine guns and everything is just like so high power. Even like Rosewood having a trunk full of guns, which has a funny story to it.

But and then you, rather than it being like this seamless combination of action and comedy and action comedies are some of our favorite movies, but they're also the hardest to pull off. Yeah. You kind of have like a comedy that's happening inside of an action movie or an action movie that's happening on top of a comedy rather than like one single vision of a movie. And Beverly Hills Cop is like, it makes Beverly Hills Cop that much more special because of the way it pulls it off. I think one thing Beverly House Cop One had was it was a little more of a heart. It had a couple, it had the scenes with Axel and James Rousseau, which Wesley broke down for us when we did the Beverly House Cop One rewatch. He was convinced it was a love story with those two guys. But you also had him hanging out with the Lisa Elbacher.

character. Jeannie, yeah. It was a little low-key. Axel's kind of in second gear most of the movie. This movie, he's in fourth or fifth gear. He's way louder on this. To the point that the critics pointed that out, they thought Eddie was almost dialed up too much. Everything is, the volume is like nine out of ten. And there's not a lot of like hanging. That's why the scene when he gets the fish print out of the fish tank, that's kind of the same energy of Beverly Hills, Cop One, right? When he's hanging out with Rosewood and Tagger. He's using some. He's using some. street smarts. Like that's the thing that happens in Detroit in Beverly Cop one is he brings like all the tricks he learned from Detroit and puts them in this like Tony rich area of Los Angeles and people

are kind of like we don't know what to do with us. This is great. This one, it's like it's more almost like he's doing parts of standup, which are really, really funny. You know what I mean? Like there's so many memorable like sequences in this. But you know, as soon as he walks in to buy the fake credit cards in the beginning of the movie, you're just like, oh, Eddie's on 11. Like Eddie's going for it. When do you need the cars? I need the cars in three hours. Get out three hours.

Give me some time here. Hey, look, man, I'm a business man, okay? I got to make moves. I'm moving. All the time, business, you know? If you can't help me, I go do something else because I'm business. I got to move all the time, okay? Excuse me, I got business, take care.

You got the money. I got the money. You got the credit cards or not. Listen, you meet me. You know, sequels weren't really a thing in 1987. We'd had four Rockies at that point. We'd had a couple of Nightmare and Omis. streets. We did a couple of Halloween's, a couple Friday the 13th. But for the most part, the

thought of this movie did well with let's run it back. They weren't really doing it as much with comedies and with action movies. And even if you look at domestic box office for 87, this is the only sequel in the top 20, top 25, top, it's not until Police Academy 4, which was the 44th biggest movie that year. So I remember going back. I'm, I'm in high school that year. My buddy Gus, we both love Beverly's cop. He saw this before me. And then he called me coming home or when he was home after and gave me the rundown.

He's like, he was just so happy. Everyone was so satisfied by this movie, which is so funny when you see the reviews. It was so nice to just be with Eddie again and to be with all these characters. And I remember Gus saying, Rosewood and Taggart, big winners of this movie. Yeah. Like they really, like, they're just every scene with them and just fucking crushes. And it's funny, like, they're as funny as Eddie in this movie. I actually, they're not, like, supporting characters.

I feel like they elevated them where it's basically the movie's about the three of them, right? Yeah, and it's about them kind of, it's about them like avenging Bogomil or like, you know, finding out what happened to Bogomil. It's, uh, it's great. I feel like the Rosewood character in this movie is just basically like, feel free to do whatever you want. It doesn't have to be attached to the first one. Yeah. Because he's just like this, like, almost like, like new age plant guy, but also has a soldiers of, soldier of fortune level amount of guns in his

trunk. And a cobra poster. It just feels like, yeah, it's, it's like, you can tell 12 writers wrote it. And maybe it sounds like me and Bill are being a little bit like, is this movie good? But it's so enjoyable. And it's so entertaining to watch. Yeah, it's a turn your brain off movie. They had, um, the way this happened, they weren't sure it was going to happen. And, they're making Golden Child's rapping. Murphy's talking to this guy walks about, about, all right, what would it look like if we made this? And they kind of quickly came up with the alphabet being it thing.

This is according to Premier Magazine. And Murphy's ideas was that that Fowlish to have a Tester Ross, Rosa Ferrari, and that there should be something at the Beverly Hills Gun Club. And that was it. And according to Premier Magazine. And you got story credit for that?

This guy, wow, yeah. this guy Waxx Wax presented their ideas to Simpson and Bruckheimer and then Paramount Executive David Kirkpatrick they flipped said Wax was just Beverly Lowe's Gun Club

Ferrari Eddie goes back to Beverly Hills because initially they were thinking maybe he'll go to England he'll get involved with Scotland Yard and he's like I'm not going to England so well they're off

they were talking about making it into a TV show which was kind of like the way Ferris Bueller went and stuff like that that would have sucked and Eddie Couldn't have been in the TV show. And Eddie was like, I'm not doing TV again.

Yeah, they would have to get like Damon Wayne. So then they had to get the director. Tony Scott has Top Gun, which is, you know, the biggest movie of 1986, basically. He's picking through his projects. He wants to work with Eddie. And this is another thing for Premier Magazine. This is awesome. Early of the summer, the producers flew Scott to New Jersey to meet with Murphy.

Scott recall shooting some pool with Murphy, who won the first game, then disappeared in the middle of a rematch. He never returned. but sent his boys in to tell Scott you're fine with me, let's go. Tony Scott's in some basement holding a pool queue halfway through a game. Where is he coming back? Doing shit like this to me.

Just leaving midway through a meeting? You're just holding a pool queue? Where's Bill? And then I just send people down. And then Jeff comes in. It's just like Bill wants to you to know that you can do aliens. Yeah.

So they're ready to go. And then Scott sniffs out that he's now the guy. So Red is they're about to start filming. He tells people, I don't know if I want to do it. Then they do a whole negotiated thing with him. He wanted to be more of a heavy action picture. They gave him a bigger contract. They gave him a substantial profit share.

And now Tony Scotson. And we're ready to go. And Don Simpson is just like, cool, cool, cool. Where the fuck is my nickel bag? Denise! Where is it? So then they shot it They started shooting the movie in LA

Without a script without knowing the locations And this was Eddie This is another thing we love about this 85 to 87 era Where the stars are like I'm a star I want all the trappings Yes I want the biggest trailer

My friends are going to be in the movie Like with bogus jobs I'm gonna be in the music video For the movie You know like stuff that stars today Would probably be like Absolutely not You know what I mean

Right It was like part of what they negotiated for. Like Bruce Willis being like, I'm doing the music for this one. Right. Or they'd be embarrassed that this stuff was going to come out

because in this piece it says, Eddie arrived in a trailer large enough told his entourage. His uncle Ray, his brother Charlie, cousin Ray Jr., fruity, a pal he's known since seventh grade, and Federoff, his 21-year-old valet. Federoff?

Federoff. And then it says, he was late all the time, according to one of the crew. And then he would just come out and he would start ad-libbing and doing any stuff, and everybody would be like, that's great. The wheels eventually come off with this.

You only have five, six years of, I snap my fingers, I'll ad-lib some characters, everybody laughs on the set, and at some point that leads to, you know, you're doing the distinguished gentleman, and the wheels have just gone,

the wheels to come up, but he was still at the peak of his powers at this point. It's funny to read about, so like the most recent fast movie had to switch directors, and Justin Lynn left the fast movie. Right, a lot of stories about that. But it was a lot of,

of it is like rumors of Vin Diesel basically being like we will like write these movies based on like my approval of action sequences that I'm thinking up and then like the writers are like cool so you're in space like so now we have to like rewrite

like to get you there and to get you out of there and get everybody else like lined up with that and it kind of sounds like with Beverly Cop 2 is almost like the domino that falls that like is like this is how you can behave on set you could be late you can improvise and like they just have to scramble to make it work because you're the price of admission. And we did COBRA a few months ago and there was the Stallone stories about nobody in the set was allowed to talk to him or interact with them.

It's just everybody had lost their mind at this point. Eddie smelled it, seized it. And at some point there's another stuff in the thing where he would have a habit of buying cars when he was depressed. So he bought a $65,000 Porsche one day during lunch. another time he just bought a Mercedes. He was fighting with Simpson and Bruckheimer about keeping the Ferrari. He was driving the movie after the movie.

And then Premier said Murphy staged a sit-in in his trailer and refused to come out until they gave in. About the Ferrari? Yeah. And then, quote, not true, a spokesman for the producers and says, Eddie may have bought a red Ferrari,

but Don and Jerry never gave him one. This is in a magazine, a story about the movie, arguing about how he'd end up with the Ferrari. So, yeah, the 80s are the fucking best. The lesson, as always. Do you think Eddie Murphy was mad at Paul, that Paul Reiser gets to drive it in this movie, even though it just gets to pull up to the pay phone? Yeah, he's like, that's my car.

I'm getting, I'm getting this after. Don't fucking scratch. No, not a scratch, Paul Reiser. So we've done, we did 48 hours. We did Beverly Cop One. We've done this one now. we did coming to America. The only one we haven't done yet is trading places, which is probably I think the 48 hours is my personal favorite. It's a little dated. It's a little

problematic. Trading places is still kind of perfect. But this is near the tail end. He has raw come out in December. Raw becomes the top 20 movie as well. So he's two of the top 20 movies in 1987. Then coming to America is a monster. And this is the tail end of the run here. When does another 48 hours come? Is that 90? Yeah, that's 90. Heavier, Eddie. Heavier Nick? No, no, Nick's in shape. That's one of the, remember he got, Nick got, Nick was skinnier than Eddie in that movie. That was one of the bizarre things about it. I was watching another 48 hours the other day. I wouldn't say Nick's in shape. Maybe he's doing better than he was. For him. Yeah. Where do we stand on another 48 hours? I'm actually pretty into it.

I like it too. I just can never get over Keough being the bad guy. Yeah, the bike. I know, The biker gang is really cool. Yeah, but that's another one where Eddie, a lot of like his quote unquote funny stuff is just kind of him screaming. I think the earlier Eddie movies, he was way better at the subtleties. And, you know,

Wesley made this point when we did cop one. He's so good at selling the other guys and the other people and whoever he's with in a scene. This movie, not as much, but he's selling the shit out of Rosewood and Taggart. And, you know, I was going to ask you this and probably answerable questions,

but they kind of spun off Rosewood and Taggart. I mean, if you're talking about a TV show, that could have been the TV show. Just put those guys in a weekly. Yeah, I'm, today it would, if this movie had come out today, there's definitely a Rosewood and Taggart, like, limited series. Like a Hobbs and Shaw type of thing. Yeah, but not even that.

Like, it could have just been two bumbling cops in L.A. who were like getting, like, solving rich people's crimes. You know what I mean? By the way, there's still time for that idea. Sure. I don't know. Is John Ashton still around? Still kicking?

Where's our guy, John? You said, what a run for John at this point. So this movie, it made a ton of money. It made $27 million budget, probably higher than that. Made $276.5 million worldwide. So you told me what Gus saw it. What did you think when you first saw it? I was so happy.

That's the thing. The mixed reviews thing is so weird. The theater was rollicking. Everybody was delighted. Couldn't wait for it to end up on HBO and VHS or whatever. It was just ready to, it was like, oh, great, this movie's going to. be my life. You didn't feel the same way? You're too young. I definitely do. I was too young to see it, I think, when it came out in theaters, but I remember this being one of those things that from

whenever I got cable to whenever I left Philadelphia, I feel like this movie was on three times a week. I think I've seen this movie more than one in a weird way. Like, in just like, oh, Beverly's Cop 2 is on. I'm going to watch 20 minutes of it. I may have seen some of these scenes more. I remembered a lot about the crime story of this movie. And I was like, this is weird. Like, how do I know this much about the alphabet, you know, robber? We litigated this at the end of the Cop 1 rewatchables, whether Cop 2 is actually a better movie. I don't think it's a better movie, but I actually think it's a more rewatchable movie because it's sleeker. The action stuff's better.

There's no dead spots. You're not getting mad at Axel for all these different, like, with his girl in the hotel room, not making a move on or just that there were like so many questions coming out of Beverly's Cop One. What was the deal with him and James Russo? this one there's no questions at all it's just a straight action movie so Martin Brest did the first one and obviously I also turn this one down he is a great director

obviously said a woman he's awesome but like there's like three people as good as Tony Scott action movies yeah like the action sequences in this movie are really tight they're really exciting even though you're just like how are you in an oil field you were just at a horse track

I have a lot of that stuff coming up It's still pretty awesome. Nominated for an Oscar for Best Original Song for Bob Seeger's Shakedown. Roger Ebert, one star. Some of the highlights from his review, or low lights. What is comedy? That's a pretty basic question, I know, but Beverly House Cop 2 never thought to ask it. Eddie Murphy is not likable in this movie.

He comes across as a loud, arrogant bore. A little of him goes a long way. What I don't like is the unstated assumption in Cop 2 that Murphy is funny by definition and that anybody who gets in his way is a fool. I mean, Raj doesn't, when there's no story, he's not a bad day. Yeah, I thought that was a little harsh. I could see two stars, but one star. Do you think Eddie, like, big-time Roger in an interview or something or like didn't show up on time or something?

Roger was pretty salty with some of these back then. These comedies, he would get pretty upset about. Like, this was when a year earlier when he was on the Tonight Show with Chevy Chase and he ream the spies like us movie right in front of them. I wonder whether or not Roger Ebert at this time is kind of like the way people feel now where it's like, oh, we're in like the 25th Marvel movie and like I'm starting to get kind of tired of the way things are going.

So I'm just going to be a little bit more like dismissive of it. You know, because I can feel that happening a little bit more. Whereas like back then you probably felt like you see Diehard 2, see Beverly Hills Cop 2. You see the way things are going. and you're like, oh, like these 80s bloated action movies are just going to get less funny and more incoherent. Here's the thing, and this is what he missed.

Eddie, who's my all-time favorite, I don't know whether he's where he ranks against Letterman and Larry Bird and, you know, the all-timers for me, but he's on the short list. After he left S&L, we just wanted to see him. You know, he was just gone. We didn't have social media back then. We didn't have, he was never on talk shows.

He went on Letterman once. He made that party all the time, whatever, that album with the video. He was like, oh, cool, there's Eddie. He's our friend. Yeah. You know, and I think he went, I think a year, almost a year and a half, maybe two years between Beverly Lowe's Cop and one and Golden Child. And he was off S&L at that point.

And then in this year, he had this movie and Raw coming out the same year. But it was like, those are, that's it. It was three Eddie. interactions with his audience over the span of three years. I think he was on Letterman once, which you can find on YouTube. It was a great appearance. I think he won on Carson once. He was Joe Piscopo had a comedy special that was great, where Eddie went on that and they did a Miami Vice parody. And that was it. So him being in a movie, just getting out to hang out with him for 95 minutes was really a big deal. Now I feel like no actors like that. You see like,

you name an actor. They're in our lives in some way. They're on social media. I can see them in Instagram. I can follow them. I can Google them. I can rewatch their old movies. But it just wasn't like that back then. Yeah. And I guess I would just,

we've talked about this a lot, but like the fandom around him is like, it was Beatles-esque. You know what I mean? Like the way, the way that like people would just listen to those comedy specials and watch,

watch whatever movies we had of his and just be like this, this is just like the best, like I'm just completely obsessed with this guy, you know? Yeah. I don't, it would have to be pieces of somebody now. It's like a piece of Chappelle and then you'd have to take five other people who are at the peak of their powers and combine them.

It's impossible. It's impossible to imagine like a comedian being this big right now. You can't. And also, as we discussed on past podcasts, like just black celebrities at that point, there just were so few of them that were at the mainstream forefront like this. So Eddie was carrying the baggage and the burden of basically there were no black movies. that were out mainstream. I mean, I went through that, you go through the top 20 that year. Here it is. Three men and a baby, fatal attraction, Beverly's cop two. Good morning, Vietnam, moonstruck, the untouchable, secret of my success, stakeout, lethal weapon, which is of Eastwick, dirty dancing, predator, throw a mama from the train, dragnet, labamba, robocop, outrageous fortune,

broadcast news, living daylights, and Eddie Murphy, Raw. So he's the only black star in the top 20. Right. That's fucking crazy. Then you go 21 plane, transit automobile. I mean, you go down the line. Like, he had outsized importance, both with how funny he was, but also it was like him and Bill Cosby.

And that's why what happens in the end of the decade as this starts to shift, things like do the right thing come in, and then it starts to shift. But Eddie could do no wrong. So we were all willing to look the other way that there were some holes in the plot. with those cop too. We love this. We're going to take a break. We're doing the categories. This episode is brought to by Whole Foods Market. Spring is here, so celebrate it with fresh, juicy, seasonal produce and some very tasty limited time flavors. New Whole Foods, Market Peach, Apricot, Rose, Italian soda. Perfect for a picnic or brunch, as is their trending mango

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This is like Tony Scott flexing is like Bogumil jogging through this oil field. But yeah, the whole scene with her cutting him off and pulling ahead and then being broken down and it's got the pulls the wig off. But yeah. Speeds away in a really nice Mercedes convertible. It's a great year for the Mercedes convertible, 87. Vintage.

Next one. Eddie steals a house. What the Anders is before they went up to Hawaii? They didn't tell you to come to a meeting? No. They changed these plans. The Anderson's before they went off to Hawaii, they changed the plans. The plans have been changed.

They're not supposed to be any right angles on this building. You, you, stop working. Stop working! You guys have destroyed these people's houses, and now I have to change this. No one that angles this thing's round as a donut. What are you a fucking heart critic? They got the money one living a donor. I actually, when he does this, it makes me wonder why this doesn't happen more often in LA.

It feels like it would be really easy to just go up to any house that's under construction. flash a badge and tell you you're shutting down everybody get out of there and you just get to stay there for a week. There was a moment in New York where I feel like if you would come to me, there was a big bedbugs anxiety in New York, like right before I moved to L.A. And if you would come to me and just been like, I'm from the city, you have bed bugs. I would just be like, see you later. Yeah. Here's the key. Take my place.

The best thing about this is that the foreman's real. reaction to this is so perfect. Oh, man. No! No! It is just like, they don't want any right angles. He's like, this house is as round as a donut. That goes right into Johnny Wishbone, too. That's a great one.

Next one is Axel goes to the gun club. Yeah. Brings the bag. If you could just take it off my desk, drop it off at Mr. Feelings. He could call research. What about my daughters? Monique and unique.

What about them? What's in it for me? What's in it for my family? What do you want? What's the end for me? I risk it in my life. What's that anything for me? I have a beautiful daughter.

You asked me to risk my life. What am I going to get out of this? I'd like to see my kids Monique and Unique again. Fucking classic. This is the same way Bootsie got killed. All they found was $20 in a pair of Medinais. And then he meets Brigitte Nielsen. Everything about this is great.

It's a little weird when he actually shoots the screen with a real gun and puts holes in it. it. I'm not sure when they did that, but so you got that. You have this strip. I will just also mention when he's there, there's the gunsmith. There's Brigitte Nilsen. And then you meet, not only Dean Stockwell, but you're going to

prok now. Yeah. All the bad guys are there. But you're like, that's the point in this movie where you're like, why are there five villains? Yeah. Like, you just needed like one guy Brigitte Wilson. Did we need Charles Kane? Yeah, it's just sort of like, why is he in here? And that was like the point where I was like,

Somebody was like, what we need is Dean Stockwell in this movie. Right. One more. Is Beverly Hills Gun Club different now? Like, what's it like to be a member in 2022 for you? So Beverly Hills Gun Club is real? I don't know. I know you go down and you like to shoot once a week.

Yeah. Not in BHC, no. The strip club scene. 385 North. Excuse me. Excuse me. Who are you? And who are those people?

I'm his representative. You know who that is? there, that's former President Gerald Ford there. It doesn't look like Gerald Ford. Well, have you ever seen Gerald Ford with his makeup off? No, probably not. This is what the man looks like now. That's the ex-president.

He came here tonight because he couldn't get out when he was running the country. Now he's a civilian and it says, right to shake his ass just like everybody. I said, where do you want to go? He said, I want to go to 385 and all. I said, well, let's go. Get a secret service man. That's who that's with him. And we came down to party in 385.

No, you'd be proud to have him here. President Gerald Ford is so fucking funny. I don't know why it's funny. It's still funny to be all these years later. He looks just enough like him to get it off. It kind of works. It's also the outfit, too. The outfit, I like what everybody stands up and applaud.

Like, whatever happened. Even though the girls are still dancing, everybody's applauding Gerald Ford. That's so funny. The Axel does the matches trick to get the fingerprint. We get to go into Rosewood's apartment. I could have spent 20 minutes in this scene. Yeah.

It does the fingerprint in the fish tank. They've seen the dating game. but it's just they do the ability we got to talk just cobra poster I just wanted more they look for the turtle's dick yeah yeah

I just see it could have kept going that could have kept going forever city deposit gets busted this is Tony our guy Tony Scott yeah two armored trucks Tony's like takes off his shirt

rubs his arms with body butter and just fucking does some curls for us for about three minutes he's like hey guys step aside I got an action sequence for you guys. Yeah. I've seen what some of the other kids in the block are doing,

but I want you to watch this. There's also just something really amazing about this moment in American cultural history where there's just this super excessive fucked up bank robbery or city deposit up robbery. And then it culminates with Eddie Murphy giving a cement truck to Chris Rock. Right. At the point by mention. Yeah. This whole scene.

How much cocaine was done to come to that conclusion? They follow the tracks to the Playboy Mansion, and he just valets there, they get out, and they go in. That was the last rewatchable scene I had, just the entire Playboy Mansion thing. It's one of the most 80s scenes, I think, of the 80s. The most Tony Scott robbery, and this is one of my rewatchable scenes,

is the racetrack robbery. Because you're cross-cutting. Nobody loved cross-cutting with running horses more than Tony Scott. I don't know if that's true. I don't have the advanced analytics on that. But anecdotally, I feel like a lot of Tony Scott cross-cutting is like, and then there's like this horse race going on too. So I really love that.

And I love when Brigitte turns on Kane in that scene. Goodbye. Goodbye, Mr. Kane. I also just have, I had to have Frank Pesci in here and have Frank Pesci coming back, the cigarette salesman from the first movie. And those two just yelling at each other would be in like, I'm not a fucking cop. You're a fucking cop.

Like that stuff is great. All the Detroit stuff I still like. And my, you know, low key, one of my most rewatchable scenes is Paul Riser, maybe unintentionally doing a Don Simpson impersonation when he shows up in a Ferrari with two women in it and makes those two calls from the payball. He looks really strung out in that scene. I'm sure. I know he's acting. But yeah, it looks like he had an all-nighter to say the least. I would have, this is a tough one.

I probably have the city deposit. all the way through the Poit Boy Mansion. I just really enjoy that eight minutes. You could do action movie scene and you can do a comedy scene for most rewatchable. So if you're going to do action movie, I'd probably do the city deposit. And if I was going to do comedy, I might do the Andersons are in Hawaii. Yeah, I would do that or the gun or him with the bag in the gun club. Yeah.

One of those two. Wood stage the best. Taggart and Rosewood. Mm-hmm. We should have had seven Beverly Hills cops. I just think they should have made one every two years and we could add more tagging and Rosewood. The, uh, Brigitte Nielsen.

I think we need to actually, for any younger listeners, explain Brigitte Nielsen a little bit here. Well, came to prominence. I think she was in Red Sonia with Schwarzenegger and then Rocky Four. She played Ludmilla Drago. Drago's wife had lines like, you're Americans think you're so betty, very good and we're so betty, betty bad. Very precious. Thanks.

falls in love with Stallone. She's in Cobra with a terrible wig on, which we covered in the Cobra rewatchables, then this. So she worked with Stallone twice, Schwarzenegger, and Eddie Murphy over the span of like three, four years. Had an affair with Schwarzenegger, married Stallone, cheated on Stallone with Tony Scott, which broke up his marriage during this filming,

and then ended up married to Mark Gaston, the Jet, one of Sean's favorites. That was all in this ban on six years. The New York Sack Exchange. Yeah. She was like six foot one. She weirdly had like, there was no market correction for her. She was just kind of, there was something sexy about her.

She was scary. I think this is the best part she's ever had, right? Yeah. I think so. I think this is better than Red Sonia. Better than Cobra. Yeah, definitely better than Cobra. She had so much more to do dramatically in this movie.

Yeah, I mean, this was like her action. Where did she go? What happened to her? I think she was. Pretty lit. Okay. I think she was, I mean, she did end up on the show Flava Flav,

the celebrity, or all the celebrities, surreal life. Okay. There might have been, she might have made some bad choices along the way. Okay. I also think sometimes we see this where somebody's good for about three movies

and that's it, you kind of move on. Put them in three different spots. Because there's a world of which she could have started like carrying her own movies for like a couple of years there, right? Like they could have built a couple of action movies around her. Yeah. I mean, she should have ended up in a Segal movie.

I don't think there's any question. I think she could have been in Above the Law or Mark for Death, any of those. Maybe she could have been the bad guy in Under Siege 3. Yeah, something. I think if she comes along 20 years later, remember when Soderberg got fascinated by Gina Carrano and just made a movie where she, movie that you and I both like, by the way? The second time you've teased doing Haywire. I know.

I would do it. Yes, I remember. Soderberg was just like, I like the way she runs. Yeah, he's like, I just like something about her. I'm just going to make her the lead of my next movie. She never found, like, her Soderberg, who just kind of stared at her up and down. I was like, there's something here. I'm going to create something for this person.

But, yeah, she, I mean, best thing you can say about her, very memorable. Yeah. I don't know. There's not a, weren't a lot of people on her, on her corner over the years, right? No, there is definitely not. I mean, like, this is basically what latter-day Charlie's Theron is doing. I mean, not exactly, but like, if Brigitte Nielsen was around now, she would probably be making Atomic Blonde and, like, Furiosa and stuff. More what's age the best? The opening music are mentioned.

So, wait a second. We just got to mention this. This is... Well, you know, do your shakedown thing. Well, first of all, what's age of the best is the opening song of a movie being thematically drawn from the movie itself. we just don't have we used to do things in this country we don't have enough theme songs that are like there's crime in the city

but you're you're like running away from it and it's just like I wish that there was just more stuff like where are you going to play it no I was I was going to try to you want me to play Shakedown are you going to play Faltermeyer this is Shakedown

very 80s so we found out in the research this is supposed to be a Grenfri song Yes. And his voice was shot. Yeah, his voice was shot. So Seeger did it. It's pretty good.

Oh, it's sick. Shake down. Breakdown. This is Falemeyer. And this is where... Craig's probably like, I could just play this for you. Yeah. Well, it's got...

You know, you're in the theater. It's nice and dark. You're like, I'm about seeing Eddie Murphy movie. It's got a little 48 hours. Yeah. Little escape from New York Fultimer never misses And then

all of a sudden we're robbing a bank I'm going to fast forward Drums are in now Yeah We're in the height of Miami Vice Yeah a little Fletch Makes me want to rob a jewelry store Yeah so I have to fall tomorrow

Two minutes 45 seconds I'm going to start doing that the end of these pods. Yeah, we should have Craig do that, so we have a little more energy. Make it simple like a robbing the bank. Shakedown was Bob Singer's only number one hit song ever. Can you fucking imagine, like, just that song being on it?

It's like, this is just the song from Beverly Hills Cop 2 sung by Bob Seeger. It's about crime in the city. Well, Seeger was neck and neck with Springsteen until about 1981. And then Springsteen kind of just zoomed away. Uh-huh. So this was shakedown. was, I think, Seeger's one last thing. We also had I Want Your Sex, which is an amazing 80s song.

George Michael, it's used perfectly in this. The Chris Rock, I think, has aged the best, especially lately in the Will Smith era of Chris Rock. But it was just fun to see Chris Rock with, I don't know what's going on. He's almost got the, who's the guy from coming to America, the Jerry Girl? Yeah, right. He's got that going. He hadn't fixed his teeth yet. Eugen Prock now, age the best for you?

Who's good to see him, right? Kind of a weird villain face. I just think that ultimately they needed to choose between Juergen and Stockwell. And so Stockwell would have been a good villain. Yergan's a good villain. But they kind of step on each. It's just like have two centers out there. Well, then we all said the arms they were, Max a million or whatever that fucking Max.

That guy. We don't even get to know him at all. Yeah, Tomopolis. And it's Paul Guilfoil. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yergan, they should add, because you knew like Yergan and Brigitte Nielsen, you know, they had like some sort of kinky European sex thing going out.

We should have gone back to their apartment once and there should have been toys and crazy shit and we're like, oh my God, these people are maniacs. They also make that whole thing so complicated where it's like, Yergan owes Themopolis money and that's why he's pulling all these robberies. Yeah. And yet, like, they just make it so complicated with it being like it's the alphabet. It's just, it's just way, way too cute by half. It makes more sense when you think that part was probably put together at about 4.30 in the morning after like the ninth rail of the day.

Simpson and Bruckheimer have the age the best. Simpson is so powerful at this point that he had Paramount remove a writer named Larry Ferguson from the Presidio. Yes. To come help with this film. Larry's like, but I'm halfway through the Presidio. Like, Larry, you're coming with us. This is like when you yanked Solac off of the NFL show. Yeah, like, So lack, you're coming on the BS.

So there's a deleted scene from the shooting club. Axel, Rosewood, and Taggart must carefully sneak past the hallway of several lasers covering it. And it's slow and it's kind of out there. I think they should have kept it. I don't know if you've watched it. It's on the YouTube's or at least it used to be. I didn't see that there was one of these, no. Another wood stage is the best.

First movie ever filmed at the Playboy Mansion. Yeah. Somehow Hugh had just said, nope, no film in here. And then finally... It was important that he find a film that really reflected his values. Yeah, no question. And then finally, oh, what stage the best? The concept of the alphabet crimes?

It's cool. I have a nitpick about it, but that's cool. I think Fincher could have taken this to a whole other level. I mean, he did with Zodiac. Zodiac, but I feel like the Alphabet crimes as a Netflix, series, like a limited Netflix series where we're just every episode's a letter and we just, you know,

there's an end game of Z if we're going to get to Z or not. Can you imagine going to Bruckheimer now and being like, I want a piece of IP from you. It's the alphabet criminal from Beverly Hills Cop 2, but I don't want Tagger, Rosewood, Foley,

I don't want anything else. Bocomile, anything. Yeah, I just want that. That's it. Just so people that, we keep talking about Simpson and Bruckheimer, for the younger people out there. I love the rewatchables, but they don't, once we start talking 80s, 90s stuff, they may not know. This is what Simpson and Bruckheimer rip off before he does. Flash dance, Thief of Hearts, Beverly Lowe's Cop, Top Gun, Beverly's Cop 2, Days of Thunder, the Refereff, Bad Boys, Crimson Tide,

Dangerous Minds, The Rock, and then he died. That's what we call a run, Chris Ryan. It's like, this guy was our soulmate. Don Simpson I can love that guy Alphabet crimes Adriano's the jewelry store Bogumil C&D City Deposit

and E was Imperion Fields The Racetrack It's a cool idea Should have gone to Jay Yeah What's age the worst Eddie's ad lib comedy bits I think we're better

In the first movie I have one more One more age of the best Oh let's here There is a running bit Throughout this movie That I don't even know If it's a bit

but it is just like a really funny detail that for most of Paul Reiser's scenes, he's reading Playboy's sisters, 112 pages of sexy siblings. I never noticed that. Is that true? Yeah. In like three scenes.

He's in the middle of reading it. And I always wondered whether that was like the payoff for Hugh to let them shoot at the mansion is Playboy. Oh, like, oh, interesting. Yeah, like SponCon. but it also is just like never remarked upon he's just reading this magazine.

What's age the worst? We mentioned that ad-lop comedy bits mentioned that it's 10 minutes late. My girl Lisa Albacker. I couldn't have squeezed her in? He couldn't have gotten to see her. We couldn't have gotten a four-minute scene if she goes to the art gallery

and she's taking everything over from Victor Baitland. It sucks that she and Pinchot aren't in this is an L. Well Pinchot, I have that in casting what ifs. He was filming perfect strangers. Couldn't do it. Right.

The sick come he made. I can't believe Don Simpson couldn't get ABC to release him for a couple weeks to do a couple of scenes. Yeah, seriously, all Donna had to do is make two calls and call one drug dealer. My only other what's aged worst is Axel Foley, asexual again in this movie. Not even a hint of anything. Right. No, no. I mean, because, like, Reggie really gets after it.

Like, that's his primary goal in 48 hours is to get late. Yeah. Yeah. Axel is just like, I'm only focused on police work. I guess he's dedicated. Casting what ifs, mention Bronson Pinchot show. They wanted Dennis Hopper for the John Stockwell part, but he couldn't do it. Dean Stockwell, yeah, that would have been amazing.

Dean Stockwell, yeah. And so he ended up doing that. We'll take a break and we'll do the rest of these. Okay, so we got Best That Guy, a kid of Joey Pants who are. It's some good ones. I mean, these are some old-school that guys. Tony Scott so reliably pads his movies out with these dudes. Yeah, he loves these dudes.

Chief Lutz, played by Alan Garfield. I had no idea what that guy's name was. But that guy, I've seen that guy and things. The Inspector Todd played by Gilbert Hall, our guy, we mentioned him in Beverly's Cop One. And then this is my favorite, and I think the winner, the Gun Club receptionist. Oh, yeah. Who we would later see five, six years later, as Dylan McKay's father's fiancé. It's Valerie Wildman.

Yeah, Valerie Wildman. Dylan McKay's father's fiancee. in the incredible Jack Taylor arc in season three of 902 and oh, when Jack Taylor blows up. Sure. And she turns out to be an FBI agent. And those are her two big moments. I think she's the winner.

I have some best graduated that guys, though. Oh, let's do it. People who are that guys in 1987, but now we know who they are. Ronnie Cox, no question. Uh-huh. 1987 did not know his name. John Ashton, I think, was that guy until Midnight Run. Right.

And then our guy, Robert Ridgely, playing the, uh, the, Lutz's boss who ends up firing Lutz at the end. That's right. He's, he's, uh, that's the colonel. That's right. In Boogie Nights. There's a, there's a couple people in here like that.

Jack? Are you my friend? Jack? Jack! Are you my friend? Jack! Robert Pastorrelli from Murphy Brown is in this movie. Oh, that's a good, that guy.

Vinny, the guy who's getting the, uh, the credit cards. for Axel in the beginning. Yeah, it said that guy, Schmorgasburg. Yeah, and then Paul Guilfoyle is Themopolis is great. I mean, you could argue Yergen Prock now is that guy. I think he has a cool name, so it's easy to remember,

but it's not like, you know, he's been a few things, but not certainly wasn't like a put-on-the-movie poster kind of name. Right. Vincent Nade, give me all you got a word. This goes in two directions. It's got to be Gottfried, right?

But he's just playing Godfrey, though. Is he even overacting? That's who he's like that for 40 years. I think Chief Lutz really dials it up. I don't know why what hit the point of his character. And the mayor is like, you're so abusive. Right. And then Boga Mill's daughter, I think, for different reasons.

Jan? I was going to have her on what stage the worst, but I thought we'd have it here. What is Jan's job that she's then like kind of getting them information later on? I have a better question. Why is Jan in the movie? What's the point of Jan? She has two axophone calls and then miraculously comes up with all this inside information the third time. And that's it.

We don't know what she does. Eddie's never really hanging out with her. They don't go get drinks. There's no sexual attention. It's like, why couldn't they have had some sort of something? Yeah. At least one sort of sexual thing where then we wondered why Axel didn't make a move on her. She's the genie replacement, but there's no history there.

Well, I'm going to address this later and recast the catch. The Jed Nelson Award, Chief Harold Lutz, I'm giving him this too. There's this whole subplot of he's ruining the Beverly Hills cop police department, but they don't really want to go into it. He fired all the previous chiefs detectives, yeah. It's not quite interesting enough to resolve or find out more info, but it's just kind of this lingering plot. Dionne Waiter's a word. We have Paul Reiser, your guy.

We have Godfrey. We have Chris Rock in his first movie. I think Godfrey kills that one scene. It's so funny. You have one hand and then the other hand. I don't know what that is. Apparently they improvised almost all that. He's like, bitch.

Great stuff. Rest of peace, Gilbert, Godfrey. Recast the couch. So I'm just giving you Gina Davis as Bougamele's daughter. Are you more interested? Are we writing more scenes for her? Is it the same part though? Yeah.

It's just two phone calls and then she's like, I've solved where this guy's visa. that came from? No, because now we have Gina Davis. So now I got to work her into the movie. Now I have to like, she's got to get drinks with Eddie. Now that I've got to like, there's got to be a jogging scene with her where she's, the bad guys are following her, but then they decide not to kill her. Like, we can go nine directions with Gina Davis. Okay. I'm into it. I like. But here's my big one. This isn't a recasting couch. This is just a new character. A lot of the times were like, you know, this part for this woman didn't really go anywhere. And then when we get to recasting, we're just like, what if Depper Winger? What if she, what if she is. I think they didn't have a lot to do with her and she wasn't a very good actress. So they were kind of like, all right. But if it's Gina Davis, now you're trying to come up with stuff.

This is my big thing, because we agree this movie could be 50 minutes longer, right? Sure, yeah. I'm adding a character and I'm bringing in a star from 1987. We go to the strip club, right? What if that's Lisa Bonnet?

Okay. And what if after the shootout, Eddie goes, Axel goes back in to find out more information, befriends her, and then they go get a drink, and maybe there's a little, we take a little side track, gets a little involved with Lisa, and then she's found dead two days later by the bad guys. So this is essentially a combination of 48 hours and last Boy Scout.

Yes, yes, it is. It's exactly what it is, Chris Wright. We are taking off. You really should have worked with Don Simpson. I could have docked on it to this. I would have cut it up nice and tight for it. There's like another universe where if you had been born like 10 years earlier, you move out to L.A.,

and then like I could see you getting hired three times to rewrite yourself on this movie. Yeah, no question. Listen, it doesn't, it takes us off the highway a little, but it's a rest stop. Sure. It's good. We get to go. We're grabbing some Doritos. We get to go to the bathroom.

I'm getting some gas. That's the least of bananas. It's like an 11-minute sidetrack. Axel, we get a little him with a lady for a couple minutes. And now we have like more, what is his revenge? They shot Bogumel. They didn't even die. Right.

I got to get Eddie angry. I need him to need the bad guys to kill somebody that he loved. Now he wants revenge. That's where you remove the comedy part of this as if it turns into like a straight up revenge thing. But I like where your head's at here. Thank you. Plus we get Lisa Bonnet, like peak Lisa,

but this is like Angel Heart year Lisa Bonnet. Half hazard research. Angel. Age art. Lewis Seifer. The Parabant, you mentioned they wanted to do a TV series. Eddie turned it down.

The license plate, 2GAT, 123, is apparently the license plate equivalent of the 555 phone number. I love this. I love this.

It's been in LA story, go, pay it forward, traffic, crazy beautiful, boho and drive, SWAT, life,

and two and a half men. Are you going to try and get it as a vanity plate now? I might. I might. Axel introduced himself as the gun club as Richard James. That was the guy,

Rick James produced his movie. There's a lot of good Tony Scott, Brigitte Nielsen stuff here. Taggart says fuck Rambo at one point when he shoots the rocket launcher. He's got the cobra poster in his room. And meanwhile, Tony Scott is having sex with the guy's wife.

Fully, anytime he gets money, he gives the money to somebody else. Gets $20 for the vitamins, gives it to Billy. $50, back of the armor car, gives it Chris Rock. $200 from Sydney gives it the mayor for charity dinner. So he never actually takes money in this movie. The guns in the trunk was based on Don Simpson. Yes, that's what I was going to mention.

That's my favorite tidbit from research. They're like, Don has guns in his trunk. Yeah. We should have Rosewood have that. Don Simpson's amazing. And then Brigitte, I had Arnold, Slide, Mark, to know Tony Scott and Flav or Five of the People that she had romances with. It's quite a list.

It's quite a rainbow of people. Not a lot of overlapping on that list. Apex Mountain, Eddie? No. No, but I mean, this is, he's got cop two and raw in the same year. And somehow that's not as Apex Mountain. In a way, it's like he even thinks this movie's mediocre and it still did so well. It is like a testament to his star power at the time.

So I could understand that. I think we decided a cop one. was his apex moment. Yeah. Brigitte Nielsen, I would say yes. For sure. Yeah, I would have guessed long career for her after this movie.

Nope. Judge Reinhold, I would say yes. Like, Judge Reinhold's getting parts after this. Right. Things are happening for him. He's starring in movies. And he also seems like happy

to be playing Rosewood. That's the thing is that like, you could see this being a point where he's just like, I gotta strap on the Rosewood coat again. But he looks pretty good in this movie. And you think like it starts with fast times

in Ridgebony. Fast Times at Ridgeburn High with him. That's 1982. This movie's 1987. I'm trying to find the movies that... Oh yeah, he was in Ruthless People in 1986. That was a big movie. That's a good movie.

Vice versa was his big chance to break out on his own. Didn't work. And then the wheels kind of came off after that. Tony Scott, no. Hugh Hefner, I'm going to say no. I think it's probably earlier for him. It's probably late 70s. Right? I guess.

Playboy is way more important than this. I definitely don't think being in Beverly Hills cop too is his eight. I was trying to think was mid-80s Hugh Heffner the best time to be Hugh Hufford. Sure. Harold Falto-Mire, I would say no. Playboy Mansion, no. Cement trucks?

It's a great look for cement trucks. I'm sure if we put our mind to it, we were corrected about the long peeing and how we missed out on naked gun and the great long pee in that. So I'm sure that there's a huge contingent of cement truck followers that would...

Who corrected us? I missed that. Twitter. Just be like, how could you guys not mention the P-scene and naked gun

and how long that goes on for? Oh, shit. Was that... That's 1987. Yeah, that was the first long piece scene. Yeah.

That beats Austin Powers and League of their own. God damn it. Hey, it's okay. You learn from your mistakes. Pick a Knits. Can I go here? Yeah, take the floor,

Chris Ryan. If you're going to create like a cipher-based code to obscure your crimes is an Amazonian blonde woman the best frontman for those crimes. Pretty distinctive.

I was drinking water. She said that of us shows. No mask for her. Not even like a COVID mask. Not even like a cover under your nose. Bougamel, what did she look like? She was six one Blonde.

20 people in the bank. And she gave me the envelope. Yeah, she gave me the envelope. So it's like they just like they come up with this huge like, how are we going to mysteriously move through the city and keep everybody guessing? And then they're like, but the person who is the face of these crimes is the most distinctive looking woman in Los Angeles.

Yeah. Every single person in the jewelry store is like, do you remember what the main person like? Yes, I do actually. Six one. Short hair, blonde, really pretty. And then they walk into the gun club and it's like she's the assistant manager. She had a very recognizable accent. More picket nits.

No sex for Axel again. So Rosewood, they're out. The city deposit robbery's happening. They go down to the bottom of where the car is going to come out. And Axel says, Billy, go get us a car. Yeah. As the car is coming down, Axel shoots at the car. car, the car goes away. And a second later, Rosewood shows up with a cement truck.

Yeah. He says, go get us a car. And 12 seconds later, there's a cement truck. It is one of the worst edits, I think, of Eddie Eddie Murphy movie. It's also like, I don't think that the cement truck could have caught up with anything. Like, cement trucks aren't known for their, like, their fleetness. Yeah. There's cement truck's pretty rough. Um, any other picking that's for you? No, it was mostly that. It was also, like, the needlessly, it's just a hat on a hat thing of like, what is Dean Stockwell's character doing? Mr. Kane. Mr. Kane. How about Carlos? We've solved the murder because his name was Carlos and it's really Charles. It's like, by 1987, we were a little more complicated with that stuff. Could this be remade as a 10-episode Netflix show? So I mentioned

earlier that. Rosewood and Taggart, yeah. Yeah, Rosewood and Taggart, I think, could have been like a sitcom. I think the Alphabet Killer could have been a fun. If you're going to remake Beverly Lovell's Cop 2 as a Netflix show, I think you would do it around the Alphabet Killer. I like your enthusiasm for Rosewood and Taggart. And this isn't necessarily a pitch for a

10 episode Netflix show, but it's one thing that I always felt like, because of how big Eddie got, because you're starting from, like, you mentioned earlier, like they initially written Beverly Hills Cop 2 to be Eddie Murphy in England, solving crimes with Sean Connery, actually, which basically I think winds up being like

essentially the backbone for what the rock is 10 years later or whatever. So this idea that he's like working with Scotland Yard. But I kind of think they always missed out on sending Rosewood and Taggart to Detroit. That could have been cop three. Yeah. Or like just like that would have just been really. Like Axel get shot. Axel is in the hospitalies in three scenes.

Or just Axel is playing the home game and Rosewood and Tagger are the fish out of water. Or you just have Eddie's like, let's do cop three. I can only be in four scenes. I mean, almost with the rock and fast six. I just want to see Rosewood and Taggart in the Detroit version of the 385 North Club. Yeah, God damn it. If we'd only been there in the late 80s with Don Simpson at his house, probably an answerable questions. I already gave you the what character would I have added to this movie.

I already gave you the Taggart-Rosewood spinoff. And once again, we're going to have to ask, we did in Cop One. Wesley was here for that one. Was Axel Foley Gay? what was going on here. Wesley was pretty adamant that there were a lot of breadcrumbs being left toward that trail. This movie ignores it completely other than he goes through a strip joint. Yeah.

Who knows? We'll never know. It's going to be one of the great mysteries of life. That's right. Axifoli. What floated his boat? We're just never going to know. Who killed JFK?

It was Axel Foley, Kay. Yeah. What piece of memorabilia would you want from this movie? I mean, Eddie's Lion's jacket is the easy one because that was a big deal. at the time. Yeah. The Mulberg, the Mulberg State,

right, sweatshirt. That was in one. Um, I mean, the Testerosa is nice. You know, the,

oh, you would take the Testerosa. Yeah. I think the Ferrari's pretty nice if I could get away with that. Um, I would love to be able

to rock Dean Stockwell's mustache. It's not really a prop, but I would love to be able to have that. Just do that. Do that in your own time. I'm going Lions Jacket. Okay. Who won the movie is an interesting one.

Uh-huh. I think you can make a case that's Rosewood and Taggart. It's really hard to imagine saying anybody but Murphy wins. I think you could make the argument that Tony Scott does because it's just so distinctively. Now, the answer is Eddie Murphy, but you're right. It's interesting that other people can claim at least resumes for who won the movie. Yeah. I think it's it's a shame. Do you think that this movie, this franchise had more legs than it, it wound up having? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Like Axel Foley.

was just a great character and they fucked it up. I was thinking, I'm glad you asked this because I meant to mention it earlier and I screwed up on the problem in answerable questions. It didn't, and this is, I've talked about how Miami Vice didn't do this and some of the other shows from the 80s, 90s. And then by the time we got to the mid-90s, people realized if you're going to have the sequels, you've got to add stuff to it. Yes. You have to have Joe Pesci join Lethal Weapon and you have to try to bring in Chris Rock.

You get Sam Jackson and Die Hard 3. Yeah. Yeah, you just have to keep at it. and they didn't really add in Beverly Hills. They basically ran it back. They had new villains, but it was the same kind of nucleus. And I think that was the mistake. Is three the Disneyland one?

Three is an abomination. That's the Disneyland one. It's so bad. And did Landis direct that? Yeah, it's just bad. It's not even fun bad. It's one of those that'll come on cable and you'll watch five minutes.

It's like, wait, this is better than I... And then by minute 10, you're like, oh, my God, this sucks. Yeah. But I think that... that would have been the answer is to add characters. I like your Detroit idea. I think that would have worked. It's just weird.

It's like I understand the dedication to having him out in L.A. and like all of it is like him riffing on like their excesses. But I think it would have been equally funny. Some of the best stuff in this whole series is when he's in Detroit with Todd and Jeffrey and Jimmy Rousseau in the beginning. I kind of would have just loved to see like like what if they make like Rosewood go undercover in Detroit? All that stuff would have just been.

awesome. You know what have been a good idea? Axel becomes a little bit famous from Beverly Hills Cop One for helping to foil the Victor Maitland thing. A Hollywood movie brings him in as a consultant for this cop movie they're doing. They fly him into L.A. for two weeks. Oh, yeah. And he's like, and he's a consultant for the movie. But as he's working on the movie, he realizes they're they're laundering money for drug dealers or something behind the scenes in the movie. And then he has to actually become a cop. I like that. That could have been good.

Then we could have just had Don Simpson in the movie with a giant pile of cocaine. Before we go, we have to find out what producer Craig thought of Beverly was cop too since it came out when he was minus eight years old. I loved it. I loved the first one. Love the second one. I don't know if the second one's better than the first like Austin Powers,

but I enjoyed it very much. Wow, this is great. What's your favorite Eddie moment from the second one? It's probably what you guys said. It's probably him stealing the house. The Andersons. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that guy was Deon Waiters, the foreman.

Yeah. That guy nailed it. Yeah, he did. We should have put him in. We blew that one. That's a good call, Craig. It says that Beverly Hills Cop 4 is in pre-production. They've been saying that for a very long time.

Yeah, that's a... I know that I think they've, the bad boys, the guys who did the bad boys rebooter directing it or something, but, like, I'll believe it when I see it. Yeah, I mean, you figure... With the Bel Air spin off from First Prince of Bel Air that went dark, I'm sure that's been pitched

for Beverly Hills cop, right? A gritty cop remake? Yeah. Dark remake of Axel's son. But yeah, Craig, I think ever since you've been alive, they've been talking about a reboot of some form of something with this.

Same with Austin Powers 4. I feel like that's been rumored for a really long time. Well, shit. Since we did Austin Powers, Myers put out that Netflix show that got critically annihilated. I watched the first 10 minutes.

I couldn't get it. through it. Do you think that Beverly Hills still has like the mystique that it does? Like when you drive through it, are you like still like, oh, this is Beverly Hills. Oh my God. I felt that way when I got here in 2002. Yeah. When I was like, oh, and that was like right after 902 and oh, and the cop movies had just happened and it felt like a bigger deal. I'm sure there's other places now that kind of have that same vibe. But Calabasas, I think to the outside world, it still holds that kind of reputation. Sure. I'm sure you're right.

I drove past it the other day and I was just kind of like, oh, yeah. Yeah, I still feel like for the outside world when they come to L.A., it's still the hits, right? It's driving down Sunset Boulevard. Yeah. It's seeing the Hollywood sign. It's going to Beverly Hills. It's driving on the PCH.

Yeah, Rodeo. Got to do the PCH. You got to see Santa Monica Pier. There's like six, seven staples that you just have to do when you're here. All right. That's it for the rewatchables. Produced by Craig Horlebeck. as always. We have some big movies coming up. You know, we're not messing around. We're on a pretty good run right now.

Yeah, we're not messing around. There's not a lot of one for us happening lately. Until we do internal affairs. The scars have fucked up family February have finally healed. They've given way to Dirty Cop June. Dirty Cop June. We're ready for it. All right, Chris Ryan, good to see you.