The Rewatchables - ‘Cop Land’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey

Episode Date: June 2, 2022

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons offered Chris Ryan and Sean Fennessey a chance to be real podcasters and they BLEW IT!!! They revisit James Mangold’s 1997 film ‘Cop Land,’ starring Sylvester Stallone, Ray Liotta, Harvey Keitel, and Robert De Niro. Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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All right, Chris Ryan, Sean Fantasy. My name is Bill Simmons. We were going to talk about Copland, a movie that came out almost 25 years ago. You seem a little low energy. Do you want to go to London? I'm saving my energy. This is going to be a rollicking pod.

This is the first podcast where we are adding some of the new categories from the selection show we did, which if you missed it, that ran on Monday. And the reason we picked Copeland is because Ray Leota just died. Ray Leota, Henry Hill is the greatest role who ever have.

I personally think this is the second? Is there a counter argument, Chris? I don't think so. I mean, lots of people love some of his early work, whether it's a field of dreams or something wild. Something wild. If you're going to pick, like, yeah, if this is going to be in the,

in the first line of the memorializing Ray Lota, this is going to be up there. What do you have, Sean? I think it's actually a deeper role than I had remembered originally. He's the star of this movie in a lot of ways. So you have this too for him? Probably.

He did a lot of cool, small things. One of his only real awards recognition was for a guest starring appearance on ER. Do you remember when he was on ER? The guy is sort of dying in the moment. People were sharing videos of that after he passed away. He's really good in that. Then he was good at some other stuff.

He's good in some comedies in the 2000. but this is probably the mediest and most kind of complex character that he played in a movie in which he wasn't the star. And that's part of the genius of this movie is there's a lot of media and complex dudes throughout this cast. Well, we watched this movie as a tribute to him. If you were watching this movie like, oh, I want to watch Leotocenes, right?

And then you're like, there's a lot of Leotocene. Yeah, and he's not eligible for Deon Waiters. He is driving most of the plot in a lot of these. Absolutely. Yeah. Where does 1980 Henry Hill and 1996 Figgs E begin for you, Chris.

Is it just the same person? Same character? So you mean like the very bad day that Henry Hill has? Very bad day Henry Hill versus Figzy. What's the difference for you? I think that they're, let's say, powered by the same breakfast.

You know? Same box of Wheaties is the foundation of their food groups in the morning. So basically by saying these were our two favorite Ray Leota performances we're saying we love coaked up, bleary-eyed,

ready to melt down Ray Leota more than anybody. We were talking on the We Own the City podcast who did for prestige about how Berthal easily could have been versions of this role and maybe even Henry Hill, right? He brings that same kind of dangerous, fun, charismatic energy that I think was what made Ray Leota special.

I will say this, though. The end of Goodfellas, Henry Hill, is like this total cynic, right? He's just like, I'm just a schnuck. You know, he's like, he's like, I've just, everything that I touted in the first two and a half hours of this movie have basically sold out. This movie, Figsie's like not a cynic. Like, his heart is broken in a variety of different ways, both in his sort of belief in what he's doing. His girlfriend's been killed.

Like, all these things have happened to him. And, you know, he finds in Freddie, he finds like a kind of reason to try and recommit to this idea of justice, even though he says like almost towards the end of the movie, like, fuck justice as he's, like, fuck justice as he finds. driving off. But he seems like he's so like, he's so sincere in this movie in a lot of ways. Yeah, I agree. He is, but he gets pushed over the edge with the tonny death, which is like something we'll talk about a little bit and kind of like the echo of that. He was always really at his best, I think, when he was not just coked out of his mind, though, he was very good at replicating that experience, you know, the bloodshot eyes. And he had this real controlled chaos. Like you felt like he was going to kind of explode at any given time.

And in this movie in particular, Stallone is so stoic that you really need this counterpoint. This guy who's like right at the edge of blowing his top and doesn't totally ever get there. But there are so many moments, I think especially of the like move diagonal speech when they're out on the porch where you're like, I don't even really know why he's so mad. Like what is he even so mad about? But he's so animated and he's so revved up and he's so frustrated and so burnt out by dealing. with like all these other crooked cops and having to cover people's asses and live in this kind of,

I don't know, decrepit universe of immorality that almost breaks it. It's like, same kind of thing. I mean, in the meantime, though, it's not like, it's not like Figgsy is this like innocent. No. You know, like he's burning down his own hat. He's doing a torch job on his house.

He's like stealing drugs. He's doing, yeah. So Leota does Goodfellas. We talked about this when we did the Goodfellas pod that we were just in awe of his ability to just go toe to toe to with these guys that were at the top of their game.

His next movies are unlawful entry 1992. A movie I kind of like. Pretty good. Yeah. It's not bad. No escape. Corinna, Corina, Operation Dumbow Drop, Unforgettable and turbulence. And leads to Copeland. Squandered the next six years.

I never really, you know, sometimes it could just be bad script choices. Sometimes Goodfellas became such a big movie, movie nerd movie. Maybe that the shadow that hung up. over it, but just never happened for him in the way I think it should have. And I was thinking, like, prestige TV would have been so perfect for him had that whole infrastructure existed in the the 90s, right? It would have been two years later. He just would have been one of the guys on true

detective or something. But the movie's saying sometimes you could just have bad luck and then all a sudden your hot streak's done. He was also maybe he was like a, he was a character actor trapped in a movie star's body. You know what I mean? Like maybe he would have been better as one of those faces that populate this film, you know, like the John Spencer's of the world. Maybe he would have been a great, you know, like fourth guy on the West Wing. You know what I mean?

I don't know if I see him in the White House. You know what I mean? You know, like, that kind of like character actor role was almost more suited to him. Whereas like in Goodfellas, he is a matinee idol for most of that movie. He belatedly got on board without, I guess Shades of Blue was the J-Lo show

that he was on for a few years there. He got pretty good reviews for his work on that show. And it seemed like kind of in the last five or ten years, he was kind of putting together maybe exactly what you're describing, Chris. Yeah, the marriage story. Like finding character parts. You could really see, I mean, really beloved. I mean, like the, obviously when anytime someone dies, people are like,

he was a great guy or whatever. But it really felt like the people that he worked with kind of went out of their way to be like, he was an awesome guy. Yeah. I really liked working out. He was a huge talent. And I think you're right, Bill. Like, I think a lot of it is, I'm sure there's personal circumstances for

everybody, but why did you pick turbulence instead of a smaller part in this other movie in 1998? Like, that could have been a pivot point, and he just missed on a couple of pivot points. Sean, I think you posted- Or go in Oz, like be just the lead of eyes. You would have been greater in that show. Yeah. You know. Sean, I think you posted on Twitter, the Scorsese quote about, like, him coming up to him at the Last Intation of Christ press conference or at Khan.

And he basically is like, I hear you doing this movie and I want to be considered for it for Goodfellas. and Scorsese is basically says like this guy had a kind of air of authenticity to him that I wouldn't have to like teach to him well was that the story where he said the bodyguard started going toward him and the way they ought to handle it just

but that's the thing about it was out of handle himself yeah the thing about this movie is this sense of authenticity that all these guys give it you know and the way in which between Kitell except you negra aflo but we'll get to her Patrick from El Maira you know she came down

Down to Kathy Moriarty and Annabelle Shior. It's just like they feel like people who live in a satellite town outside of New York City and Jersey. So this is, to put this movie in the bigger picture context, this is the indie boon. Pulp Fiction's now three years old. Everyone's trying to basically recreate the Pulp Fiction Magic become the next Pulp Fiction. We had movies like Swingers and the Boogie Nights and there's all kinds of variations of these, They're indie movies, but not really because they're loaded with awesome cast members. This one, everyone works for scale, but Stallone was the big hook.

It was basically, this is going to be Fat Stallone. It's like, Fat Stallone. Yeah, he put on 40 pounds for this. He put up 40 pounds. He's going to be a toned-down version of himself. He is. He's going to be in a movie with De Niro and Ray Leota and Harvey Keitel and all these people. And it's not like, it's not cliffhanger.

It's not daylight. This is just a drama written and direct. directed by this young director, James Mangold, who's really good. Really? That's his next movie, but he needed it because, you know, he needed the kind of comeback. I wanted to ask you about this specifically because you're the Stalloneologist out of all of us. And, you know, this movie came out right when I was really getting into reading Entertainment Weekly and premiere and all the magazines. And there was a lot.

This movie was written about a lot in the run-up to it because of the incredible cast and because the Miramax was at this really very powerful moment like you're describing. but as a Stallone fan Yeah Like what did what did you think Were you like excited about this shift for him? What did you want? It was interesting hearing Stallone talk about why he did this In the research where he's he's like I'm in a slump

And I'm looking back in the movies I'm like I don't know man You went 93 to 97 cliffhanger demolition man The Specialist Judge Dread, Assassins and Daylight Do I just suck because I kind of like most of those movies I like Stallone? I get that he's not he's not Rambo

he wasn't Rocky he's not Rocky Rambo but he he basically had these two franchises simultaneously that made him the biggest star one of the biggest stars

in the world Arnold kind of took his corner a little bit and he got older but he also had roots in writing his own material yeah making awards caliber stuff

and I think he probably I mean I'm just guessing but I'm sure he saw Travolta in 94 go with Pulp Fiction and he's like that should be me I want some of that

yeah yeah and it's I think this movie and I think the first creed are the two best examples we have that Stallone is actually a good actor. And it's when he scales it back and the nuance of the character

and just versus the when he's that guy he becomes character Stallone. The problem is... First blood is another one like that, I guess. The tricky thing is I just don't know if he did it enough. Like you can legitimately make the case that he did not take on

one interesting part between Copland and Creed that there was not one part that challenged him as an actor or he tried to do something different even in the 90s and the late 80s he would do comedies and like they failed Oscar failed

you know like those movies didn't work but he was trying to do something and then he kind of just recedes back into the sort of like B level version of Salon action hero stuff and some of that stuff is a lot of fun and I like some of it

kind of almost happened to Tom Cruise there for a little while and he snapped out of it it was always like a higher grade version of it but you're right it was like you know when you're doing Will Smith's another one. I kind of give up. I'm just going to make these types of safe,

big budget choices. But there's not a lot of evidence that, like, Stallone is a good actor, and I think he is a good actor. Could he play Jack Horner and Boogie Nights? It would have been pretty jacked. The litmus test of all litmus tests. I mean, it'll be interesting to see him and do this Taylor Sheridan show

that's coming out at the end of the year, where he plays like a gangster moving out to Oklahoma. Well, we also have, by the way, I saw this in the theater and was super excited for Stallone. I thought he was great. I don't, it's weird that he was getting Oscar buzz because I don't think he was that good.

I thought Creed he deserved. I think they wanted there to be Oscar buzz for this. He wasn't that good. This is a real, like, I'm going to sound like Vanessa Bear from Barry, but this is a real like, huh, movie when you go see it, and then you're like, huh. And then you're like, oh. Yeah, this was like a three-timer.

There's these, the third time, you're like, I get it. First time, especially the final scene with the slow motion, with no sound and the shootout. It was just weird. Now I really like it. I respect it. I think it's amazing. I didn't think it was amazing when I saw it.

I thought this is a weird way for a movie to end. I think I went in expecting a Goodfellow style movie. And it's a Western, you know, it's not even like trying to pretend to be anything other than else than just like a Western set in New Jersey. And like the end is high noon.

And it's like he's a lone man. It's just real problem. Yeah. Just getting the guy out. Yeah. So I think you could like come to appreciate those things the more times you see it, and the more you remove

you get from your expectations, and then the more, like, you know, my favorite stuff in this movie is, like I said, the move diagonal speech or like,

Keitel and De Niro in the coffee shop and eyeing each other. And I'm like, this is like, there's like four movies total that have scenes that are this intense

and this perfect with no dialogue. All the stuff in the four aces is just like, holy shit. There's like nine great actors. Yeah. And they're in like a real bar, just let it loose.

Well, the cast, I think, is one of the legacies of this movie. They did a really good job. Dave De Niro's Lieutenant Rupert Pumpkin Is it just the King Comedy guy?

That's a... Looks just like... That's a version of De Niro that I really like. Me too. Like that, like a little bit grouchy, a little bit graying, a little bit like bad mustache. Like, I really, really like this version of the hero. It's really cool that he did it because that's a nothing part. Like Motilden is not a...

He transforms it, though. I know, but it's not either of the leads, you know? I offered you a chance to be editor-in-chief, and you blew it! Your hands are tied now. I love De Niro in this movie. I have an unbelievable De Niro question for you later at this movie. We also have Robert Patrick as Drunk Mestash Terminator. Yeah.

Jackie. There's Jackie, Joey, Ray. Met my fair share of Jackie's in the Tri-State area in the 90s. Little Pete Berg. Young Pete Berg. Yzer. Yzer. Well, before Friday Night Lights.

Did you just do a Yizzer? Rappaport Annabelle Shiora Ciora I think it's Shiaura Our guy Noah Amric Just peeking right now He's got stuff coming out

Kathy Moriardi John Spencer Malik Yoba Yeah New York undercover Yeah brother I remember when they held that I was so pissed off

I was like why are you guys depriving us Our guy Frank Vincent Smokiniti Falco Oh my God I have about 10 minutes of material on that Yeah I figured

our guy Paul Calderon. Yeah, that's right. De Niro's dude. Tarantino's dude. His pick for like, why didn't that guy have a bigger career? Tiny bit of Debra Harry? Just a weird, like sprinkling. Half a scene?

Little Pauline Walnuts, just like a... In the pictures. In the photo, yeah, yeah. I love the little Bruce Altman when I can get a Bruce Altman. Fantastic. The asshole lawyer. Always playing an asshole lawyer or an asshole business. Or a therapist.

Yeah. And a couple of that guys, too. So James Mangold. Copley in 97 these are just the highlights Girl Interrupted 99 Walk the line 05

310 to Yumo 7 The Wolverine 13 Logan 17 Ford and 4I 2019 He's doing the Indiana Jones movie 2020 That's a hell of a century

I just listed the best movies It's a nice career He's a real interesting one Yeah I wanted to get your movie nerd perspective on him Because he had some stinkers in there too Yeah, he has. He, I've interviewed him a couple of times.

He's really smart. And he's the son of artists. Both of his parents are artists. And, you know, the movie is based in part on his experience. Like, he lived in a town. And I think in Western New York, there was kind of like a town like this where a lot of NYPD cops lived. And he always struck me as like a guy who's like aspiring to a little bit of blue-collardom,

even though maybe he didn't totally have it in his life. And he's always like writing stories about people who like pick themselves up. by their food straps, you know, like, Ford versus Ferrari is very much about these guys who were just like, I can do it. Just like I will outwork everybody and do it. Even Logan is this like very weighted down, like story of one man alone who can make it happen. I think he's really talented and it's interesting the way he's basically like tried to survive the changing landscape of Hollywood by continuously putting his lens on whatever's popular. And this is still early enough in his career that he's like, I'm doing the indie crime boom. You know, like, this is things to do in Denver when you're dead and all the post-pulp Fiction's hit that point for 30 more seconds because it's important. The Pulp Fiction Rip-Off movies. Yeah.

Yeah, it was a huge thing. The amongst friends. When did it end? Like, 1999? This is a five-year run of people being like, can this be me? Can I be the next one? It's almost like he crafts this movie kind of... Strategically, yeah.

Yeah, it's like a strategy versus like this is the movie that's open season on these Yeah, it's like, this is the movie that's been sitting in my soul for five years. Yeah. I don't think that was it. I think he's like Jersey cops. This could be my whatever. Same way he looks at Logan and he's like, I've done a Wolverine movie. It wasn't exactly the Wolverine movie I wanted to do.

But I'm going to, if I get another chance to do it, I'm going to make it really the way I want to do it. It's going to be like a samurai movie. Like, it's really going to be about this one man. It's going to be yojimbo, but in a superhero movie. And he did it. You know, like Logan is really good. That movie got a screenplay nomination. Wow.

He's a unique. dude in the ecosystem of movies because he's always able to kind of like survive and thrive. Like Ray gets very popular and then he does walk the line, right? That was the order of operations there. And Walk the Line's really good. A ton of Oscar nominations. I don't know if he has like a signature. That's the thing. His signature to me is his movies are blessedly full of bullshit considering what they are. Because like a lot of these movies, if they're this big, you just feel like they get noted to death. And it's like, well, we got to have this kind of scene or there's got to be two more set. There's two more set pieces somewhere, another version of Copland.

There's two more chases or another shootout. And they just like make it so that it never feels encumbered by that, but it never feels boring. It's like, it's just, it's got a propulsive plot. You're kind of like, oh, what happened to Fixie's girlfriend and what's going to happen with Superboy? And you're like, you're into it. But it's never like crap. Like, here's some other side plot that they've introduced because they wanted to like kind of goose it up a little bit. His movies are lean.

They're lean, yeah. Ford versus Ferrari's like that too. It is. That's a good point. I love that movie. If you just go Copeland, Girl Interrupted, walk the line, Logan and Ford and Ferrari, Ford versus Ferrari,

five pretty different movies. Well, there's a big, there's a very big contingent of people who love his 3-10 to Yuma, too, which I think is good. I haven't seen that one a long time. That's Russell Crow, right? In Christian Dale. My dad loves that movie.

And it's a remake of a movie from the 50s starring Glenn Ford, which is a really great Western. and he loves westerns and Mangled talks about them all the time. But again, it's like, it's a remake and that's the way he could get to tell his real Western and he wanted to tell it.

And it's very good. He makes all of his movies, almost all of his movies, I should say, there is like a romance in there. What's the weird Hugh Jackman romance movie he did at a certain point? It was not a fact that didn't totally work.

I can't remember the name of it. But almost all of his movies are very good. You walk out and you're like, huh, that's a quality film. Yeah, I mean, he's one of those guys who probably is like, this is like a Curis' Allo movie

or John Ford or Howard, Hawks movie and it's not exactly bullshit. Right. He tried. He tried to replicate that. Fifteen million dollar budget made 63 million. Jesus. That's way more than I thought it made. Yeah, but first alone that's almost

like low. Yeah. Was it considered a miss? I thought it was considered not like a failure, but just kind of like something that had a lot of hype that didn't pop when it first came out. Yeah, there was also I think people ready to turn on Merrimax a little bit at that point. I don't think that was helping either because Rounders hit that too

and Rounders come out the year later people were like eh And then it became this iconic rewatchable movie Similar to this one I mean not quite as iconic as Rounders But this is a real cable movie I mean this was you got your third and fourth go on TNT or HBO with this Yeah we have different types of rewatchable movies This one It's basically an entire prestige TV season crammed into a 100 hour 40 movie

But this is why like Sean hits this nail a lot This is kind of why like movie are sometimes like the preferable narrative delivery device. Because yeah, we'll say probably at the end of this that we would love to see a prestige TV version of this movie. But this movie is perfect. This movie is two hours. I think it could be longer.

I actually think it's imperfect because I wanted more scenes with the Jersey cops. Sure. Yeah, you could do an entire. My ad is give me like 15 more minutes of content. I don't want 10 hours with Freddie though. You know, that would have been too much. No. It is, it's good that it's a movie.

You don't want 10 hours of your backstory? I'm good. She goes to see her mom. I want Joey. You gotta get away from him, honey. To have that scene. Yeah, I wanted a couple more. I just want to be in the bar more.

Yeah. Four Aces. Yeah. I didn't mean the four ases more. Roger Ebert, our guy, two stars. Tough. Not feeling it. Rough balance between how long a movie is, how deep it goes, and how much it can achieve.

That balance is not found in Copeland, and the result is too much movie for the running time. Great note by Raj. I just think two stars. You got to at least go two and a half But I actually agree with them I think it's too much movie for the running time There's so many rich characters And so much going on

That it's like To do this in less than two hours Seems kind of insane This felt like I mean compared to a movie like Knocked Up that's two hours and 12 minutes Like should this movie have been a half hour shorter Than Knocked Up

Or should we have flipped that? Probably not I don't really know what Harvey Weinstein's Role in this was He's notorious for Harvey's scissorhands and kind of cutting up his director's films and shortening them and trying to make them more commercial over and over again.

Would not surprise me at all if there's a two hour and 20 mic for Copeland. I thought that was more the opening and closing voiceovers was like felt like very much like Harvey. It was like, we need to get De Niro in this movie immediately. That's in my notes. Yeah. The why is this movie open on a voiceover is baffling.

Right. You know why I stand on the voicemovers. You really have to prove to me that's going to work. But it's like the voiceover that they do. in this movie is stuff that's all self-evident within the first three shots of the film. Exactly. It's like, there's a town called Garrison, New Jersey.

Just put the name on the scene. I guess it has a little bit of like a Western feel where it's like in this little sleepy town. It sucks. It's so. You don't need it. I had it in what stage the worst. New Jersey, the cops of the cups. It's like shit. Stop it.

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signs storewide and everyday low prices on 365 brand items. Enjoy the fresh flavors of spring. Save at Whole Foods Market. Most rewatchable scene, he jumped. He fucking jumped. Oh my God, Leo! Jesus! He jumped!

Oh my God. Jump! He jumped! Superboy's accident slash shooting. I love everything about this scene. I love being in the bar. I love Robert Patrick yakking. Yeah.

I think even Wayne Jenkins would note that Robert Patrick's evidence planting is pretty rusty. Pretty shoddy. Yeah. We get some Paul. He's like, oh, I found this giant oozy. Oh, what's this? Paul Cautaron, just very suspicious right away. He's crushing it and limited duty.

He's fucking awesome. I like being on a bridge. I like being on a bridge in New York where bad shit happened. The GWB of all bridges. Oh, yeah. And it's going to come up later. Yeah. Really good, like little small stuff too.

Like when you see Superboy's car drives over the glass bottle when he's pulling off the street. And that is why his tire blows. There's like a couple of connective little things there that are really good too. Yeah. Next one I have is Kai Tal and De Niro reunited. Oh, here was my classmate at the Academy. Back in the day. Before we fell in love with this redhead, NIA and transferred.

So how it went right. So what brings your Tower of Fair City? Checking up on us? I heard it was a way of life out here. Thought I'd check it out for myself. What are we like the Amish now? What do we like the Amish now? Hey Mo.

Hey, Ray. Just speaking to the two-hour runtime, what to give me like two more Keital and De Niro scenes? I would have been ex-per-the- hell of it? What is Arthur Naskarillo? character named Frank LaGonda. Yeah, Frank LaGanda. It's perfect.

Boy, I mean, this is probably going to win for me. The bar scene with Leota versus Berg, where they had the gamley talk, we find about, you bet it been some five times Chicago Bulls. Followed by Leota versus Patrick,

the dart to the nose, but just everything. Oh, you're a fucking humanitarian. Don't shut me out, Ray. Don't shut me out, Ray. You found us a sweet little town. You got us to low interest, and I'm grateful. But don't forget who it was that you came to two years ago to cover your ass.

Get him out of here, Freddie. It's not my fault that you can't look at him. You sit in this chair with your back to him. You want it to go away, but I'm still here. In for a penny, in for a pound. I love that scene. I'm there so, that's the be jealous, Freddie. Let it out.

cleanse yourself Leota in that scene is money Yeah It's great Ray tries to drown Superboy is pretty good When you see Let's talk

Let's talk thanks to my above ground pool Meet me in the back I have some nits to pick about that scene Yeah and then we see two more people Come in and It's just a good dramatic scene Stallone versus De Niro

When he goes back in The first time The first time is good too Their ambivalence is contagious. That first conversation when him and Malik Yobah go visit him. But that's him being like, we buried his suit today. Yes. Like I am a cop.

You are law enforcement thing. That's before the second encounter, which is all time. Listen, you deaf fuck, I offered you a chance when we could have done something. I offered you a chance to be a cop and you blew it. And you blew it! Listen to me, you deaf fuck, I offered you a chance when we could have done something. I offered you a chance to be a cop and you blew it. Just the best.

Sometimes De Niro just will pull in just the all-time Hall of Fame first ballot to Nero in like one sentence. Chris, Chris knows this for many years. My brother and I, this was our movie. We watched this movie together

probably 15 times. And I can just pick up the phone right now. I could probably call him right now and be like, I gave you a chance and you blow it. My hands are tied now. My hands are tied now. You always do the my hands of tide now move.

It is just like it isn't the common language of my relationship with my brother. We love this scene. The best thing is that he's acting in that scene too because as soon as he leaves he's just like that cupcake Mike gives a new case. Right. That cupcake makes a mess.

We got a case again. It's great stuff. Leota versus Slye. I got a chance to start my life again. I don't give a shit about this town. I don't give a shit about that town. And I don't give a shit about your fucking justice. Being right is not a bulletproof vest, Freddie.

I wrote that down too. That one's so good. There's so many life lessons. Great line. Yeah. So good. And then, uh, The ending.

Not the actual ending, but the shootout. I think you got, those are all the ones I had. Yeah, you got them. I have a one or two. Mostly it's just, I mean, we didn't, I don't think we did go to lunch, right? No. We did not do, go, go, the mayor shut us down, go to lunch. Case is closed.

Finish. Over. Go to lunch. Go to lunch. Go to lunch. Go to lunch. The case is closed. Everybody, get the fuck out of here.

Get out of here. The case is fucking closed. That's a good one. Just the Nero yelling in this movie is splendid. And just as like a, like, I think that just because the method man's re-reedemed on the rooftop with Pete Berg. Randoni. That seems good. I'm, I had that in what stage the best.

It's just like a really cool. Let's have some questions about that scene. It's like right out of Serbico, though. Like that is like the, and it's. I just love how, like, they're pulling up, and, like, they've got all these, like, the sort of New York City tenement building style, where it's, like, all these doors that are going into dead ends and shit.

It's just a really cool set piece. You could, my pick is the whole, starting with the people are yelling about the gambling all the way. It's a big Z at the bar. That's, you could argue that that's, the template is laid for the Sopranos in that eight minutes, whatever it is. That's 40 bad of Bing scenes.

It's, it has to be you blow it for me, personally. That's a personal pick. That's my most watchable. What's age the best? I missed the mid-90s era of swollen indie movies where big stars work for scale. That was the first thing I wrote down. I think the wind of that era

died, Sean. They don't make those movies. They don't make any of those movies. They don't make these movies anywhere nobody would ever work for scale. They do TV and then they don't do TV for scale. I mean, died 20 years ago, right? What's age the best? De Niro and Stallone and scenes together. I mean, it's hard to overstate in 1997.

These were two, like, the six big actors in my entire life up to that point. I'm 27 years old. It's like I can't believe De Niro and Stallone or in a scene together. And like put it in context, too. This is before Meet the Parents and all the other bullshit. This is before De Niro. He's come off a year and a half.

He has not cashed out yet. Every movie he does is basically an event in the 90s up to this point. When he's in Jackie Brown, it was felt like the most important thing that he was going to be in a Tarantino movie. And did he do, he did Jackie Brown, Copland, and wag the dog all that in the same year. scene of a reshoot. And he had like, there's one scene in this where he has the, the Lewis mustache. Shooting somebody in their, next to their good ear, I think, is aged the best for me.

I like when a character has a handicap in a movie and then somebody does something to them to accentuate the handicap is always like this final level of evil. It's always good. It rarely happens. That's the pro wrestling fan in you for years. Oh, yeah. Her Jim Ross be like, oh, no, he's putting his broken ankle in a chair. Oh my God. It's kind of a cousin of Hans Gruber shooting out the glass when he knows McLean doesn't have shoes on.

Yeah, I always enjoy that. Chris, 1990s, New Jersey. Fun to go back, mid-90s jersey. I mean, everything about it from tucked in shirts tucked into your jeans and wearing windbreakers with the sleeves pulled up. I mean, I have, honestly, as a category that transcends maybe even what's age the best into nobody's ever been more attractive on screen as Edie Falco smoking. First thing when Chris watched the movie and reached out to me he was like we gotta talk about

E. Falco I was like is that the takeaway? This is I would honestly I would throw my life away for that woman in that moment

when Berta is like telling this story about like an Armenian guy leaving a goat's head at a dude's house I don't even understand and she's giving

Figsie like C4 to blow up his own house but she's like tapping her foot and smoking and the way she like those two smoke like that is

is high-longed. Yeah, that is sitting on the porch three in the morning. Like, we only have one Marlboro left. What the fuck? Well, you take it. I'll just go to the store. Yeah.

You shouldn't drive. I'm going to drive anyway. Fuck you. There's a lot of really good smoking details. First of all, just like everybody on the set seems to know how to smoke. But there's even Freddy smokes Carlton's,

which is like a great, Jesus Christ, like to have some self-respect. Like, you know? You know what I also picked up on, speaking of Freddie in that first scene is he's playing a pinball machine. A lethal weapon.

Lethal weapon. Yeah. which tells you everything you need to know. This guy wants to be super cop and can't be. Yeah. They're pinball guys and video game guys. You know, watching this movie post the last couple years in America was really interesting to me.

I thought, I don't want to say that's age the best because that's a weird thing to say, this is aged awesome. This movie came out like, like five days before Abna Luema. And apparently there's a couple of racist scenes that they cut to try to accentuate the racism in this town that they just cut for time that I actually think

you can find them on YouTube but it's an interesting portrayal of a very cloistered community of white cops you know, Malik Yoba is here as a cop but like we see Method Man

we see the two black guys at the beginning of the movie it is drawing these like a little bit unsophisticated lines I would say the fact that the only people that live there seem to be Italian American

honestly you know there's there's not a lot of new ones. And there's that moment on the bridge where John Spencer goes up to the black cop and seems to be saying like you're not going to, you can't pull like a race card here because he saved a bunch of black kids from a fire. But like, yeah, I mean, it's a pretty damning depiction.

It's direct, yeah. Add the James Mangold as of Woods Age the Best just from really good career. There was some one-hit wonders in the 90s, especially with some of these indie movies and he actually turned himself into something. Skinny Pete Berg. Just fun to see him.

Yeah. It's like the cocksure guy. He's so good at that. Like the natural muscle wearing the sleevels t-shirt. Come him white beards back then. Fashion has come back around to Joey Randone when he pulls up on his kawasaki

and he's got those chunky like philas. Your style icon. That's your boy. Tupor's Springsteen's Tongues. It does a big deal to have a Jersey movie that had Springsteen in it was uncommon in 1919. Save that for slow rides.

This is a neat. needle drop. Well, I'm just saying, it's, Springsteen's in the movie, which is what's age the best. I'll tell you what age the best, too. You don't watch a lot of movies

where it's like, hey, that's Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, but there's also what's age of the best is they didn't clog this movie up with too many needle drops. Yeah. It's got that cool score, but there's not a lot of,

like, there's not a lot of music being played in this. Two good song, Springsteen song choices, too. Those are cool songs that are not like, it's not, it's not born to run. You know what I mean?

Edie Falco. John Ventimilia Robert Patrick Annabel Sierra, Tony Serico Arthur Nascaral six people Are it the sopranos

Is it the same casting director or what? Yeah I must be I mean it's obviously a huge So what's age the best Fun to see all those people What else do you have anything? I just the depiction of the satellite town Which you've kind of mentioned

But like this idea that there are like You know especially in New York Outside of New York There are all these towns where it's like I mean I don't know what cop bars are like Now because I don't go to them anymore But from the ages of 9 to 16 I was in cop bars all the time,

twice a week with my dad. Pinball, dartboard. Yeah, forrestes, that is what it is. Yeah, that is exactly what it is. Six guys sitting in a circle getting increasingly boatering with each other. It's a little dangerous.

Yeah, but they're also really nice to kids. The cops were so freaking nice to you when I was growing up, but they could be real nasty. They could be real scary. New category. The Slow Ride Award for Best Needledrop. I think this goes to Springsteen's stolen car.

Yeah. It's such a great little scene. I love it when the people in the scene are actually interacting with the fact that there's music on. And she's like, you can get this on CD and he's like, it wouldn't matter to me, you know? Yeah, that's great. You know, you could get this on CD, you know. It's stereo. It wouldn't matter to me.

Can we talk about Freddy's music taste very quickly? So they make that joke about how... He's got the Glenn Gold record. He's got the Glenn Gold record. And then there's, Keitel's character says, you know, I go to you to recommend opera at Christmas time. You know, and he obviously has this kind of like more sophisticated. sophisticated side. He likes classical music and opera,

and he has good taste in Springsteen. Is it because he can't hear in one ear that he's developed an affection for an appreciation for music? Or maybe he's just like kind of lonely, so he spent a lot of time thinking about it? I don't know. Freddy's on the internet, like 10 years later.

He's just on Reddit. Look it up aliens. Less music. He's trying to figure out what happened in 9-11. Freddy's on Napster early. Getting all his Glenn Goulds. Yeah, getting old. Ashbury Park bootlegs.

New category. The Big Gahuna Burger Award for best appearance by food or drink that made you a little hungry or Thursdays. You're watching it. What do you got, Chris? This is a one of one. It's Moe sandwich. Of course, De Niro's Turkey sandwich.

Yeah. He's just like, they don't give you any napkins with this thing. Looking his fingers is disgusting. That is amazing. I guess because it's the last couple of years. That's fine. The combination of COVID and also spending most of my last 10 years of my life with Sean is it's really really.

rare that you see like somebody be like you want half my sandwich Sean's on a big sandwich splitter I don't share food but it was also just like Malik Yoba just like comes in grabs it they're just like fucking destroying this turkey on rye I had a quick runner up for this category which is the Kathy Moriarty cocktail

that she gives to Superboy which is a real like house party cocktail you know and somebody makes one for you and you're like this is just like pure gasoline it's an old fashion but minus the old fashion it's just fashion I'm really excited for this next category. And honestly, just everybody who sent us suggestions,

I think it really is going to help the podcast. This is my favorite one, I think. The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for scene stealing location. It's just such an honor to have Den of Thieves in the permanent fabric of the rewatchables, especially the Benihana scene. I'm so glad it's here. This obviously goes to four aces. Oh, I see.

I was wondering if you were going to make a late shot for scores. No, four a aces. I mean, we, I know you were a stern listener at this time, too. Were you a stern listener? Scores was a big part of Stern in the mid-90s. Scores was like a character. It was, it was mentioning rap songs a lot. It was funny.

I was watching this with my wife this weekend, and she goes, oh, scores. Maybe scores is the answer. This might be right. I also wrote the shootout on the George Washington Bridge. I mean, a shootout on the GWB, that's a big deal. Yeah. Right. That's pretty good.

Yeah, you're right. I didn't think of that as a location, but that's a location. Another new award. The Great Shot Gordo Award for Gordon-Bullis. Best shot in the movie. What do you got, Sierra? I got raised in against the above ground pool with the light reflecting off of...

That's what I got. Yeah. The green and white, like aluminum siding that they've got up there. I had, in the start of the shootout, when they go wide on Stallone with the whole river and the bridge behind him, I thought was a nice, like, poster shot.

Those are the two signature, like, this is a filmmaker moments, you know? We're not just telling another crime story. Like, this guy has a, he has visions in his head. By the way, the Great Shot Gordo Award is named after Gordon Willis. Yeah. We're on a Gordo basis with him.

You just recently made his appearance in the offer. Yeah, we love Gordo. Right? Who played Gordo? I don't know. I'm not sure the actor is, but being petulant,

as Gordon Willis has often described us. Yeah, he's yelling at Coppola. Another new category. Last one in this little speed round. The Anchorman Flute P-break Award. A lot of people wanted, like, hey, what's the best part of the movie to take a P-break?

It's tough, because this movie is almost too tight. I didn't really feel like a drag, but I'm fine when it's like, oh, Annabella Sear's showing up at Stallone's House. Even though I like the Springsteen song, I can get that on Spotify. That's three minutes.

I can run off to the bathroom. Pretty quickly. I wrote it up. I need this movie to be so much longer. Except for this. Yeah. The emotional heartbeat of the film needs to be surgically removed. The thing is, they speed through it.

They don't even, all of a sudden, she's leaving, and we don't even really get a pay. off. It's just they, it's, we have this. They don't sleep together, right? And he just, I wrote it literally wrote on Freddie and Liz Kiss. That scene, I just don't. It's just not on a par with the rest of this. It doesn't feel like he's even as interested in that part of the story as a filmmaker. And it's kind of perfunctorily to give him a love interest. I think it's either more or take it out. I do like though, him, Liz and Joey all knowing each other since they were kids. And him saving Liz and her marrying Joey and the threading of that story is good, but

He's not devoting time to it. Not much now. I mean, also, like, I had this of pick and nits, but Stallone and Pete Berg are just not the same age. Yeah. So it's like they all grow up together, but Pete Berg is clearly like 12 years younger than Stallone.

That's a good point. What's age the worst? This normally is a nitpick, but it's like too big for a nitpick because it's bothered me every time I watch this movie. Ray's plan, Ray Harvey Kitell's character, his plan to hide Superboy. Yeah.

Is the entire plot. of this movie and it's fucking stupid. So I just don't get it. The more I watch it, yeah. Like, so he's, first they're trying to get it so that the evidence is planted, it's going to be a clean shooting on the bridge for the Superboy. That gets screwed up because

Paul Calderon sees the gun and then throws it into the river. I don't know, I guess we're supposed to intuit that Ray tells Superboy to fake his own death, right? They go through the entire funeral process. Then they have, like, the very ostentatious party for super boy. This is the problem. And right up until the party, I think Ray thinks Frank Vincent is going to just basically pay for him to move to Arizona, right? Because he says there's a line in that party where somebody's like, hey, you move to Arizona or something like that? So there's like a kind of like an idea that like he's going to be basically escorted out of town and get like a new setup somewhere. And then when Frank Vincent's like, look, I can't do anything for this case unless we find a body, you're just going to have to take care of it, which leads to one of the great lines.

in the movie, which is Frank Vincent being like, isn't he adopted? When he's like, it's my sister-in-law's kid. He's like, isn't he adopted? Yeah. But I think that if you watch it enough times, it's a very weird idea that eventually gets like a little bit more clear. There's something. Disagree.

We're all over picking nits because that's what this whole scene is. But there's something really confusing about the idea of showing 30 residents of Garrison, New Jersey, Superboy is still alive and then immediately killing him. So he's not just. But isn't that like this is the impunity with which these guys operate where it's just like, I don't know. It doesn't matter. It doesn't.

I don't understand the party piece. If you're then going to kill him, makes no sense to me. I also don't understand these guys like sideswiped him on the highway, right? And he almost had an accident. And he's a cop. And, you know, he doesn't know if they're drunk or not. It just feels like there's a better way out where it's like, hey, these guys were trying to run me off the road. And I was defending myself.

I don't think, but he's not. Yeah, he sees. I guess he was drunk. I mean, this is something, you know, we talked about it this weekend. And your wife actually made the point. Like, so would he have been like, would he have, like, gone away forever despite being in nephew? I think he's like, I would lose my shield is like his big thing. You can start about losing his job.

But like, within days, they're murdering him. Yeah. Like, it really unravels. It's a flaw of a movie. I think there was a better way. I wouldn't have had the car side swipe him. I don't know. I don't know the answer.

But it just really unravels fast. I think that there's better choices. This is also Ray has built a house of. cards because if one of his guys gets in trouble, it's the possibility of that guy being like, well, I'll get out of this by flipping on Ray and this whole setup and the mafia. Well, then just kill him right away then. Yeah, that's the only thing is why waiting and why letting other people see him. But you're right, though.

That's a really good point that if one guy breaks, then the whole thing falls apart. Morewood's stage the worst. I just wanted more Yankees in the four aces. I just feel like Yankees games are just on there. Oh, yeah. There's more sports. There's not enough sports on the background in this movie. it just feels like five, six times

there should be a TV on with a game. Yeah. The nod to the Bulls betting, I think, is the... Yeah, but I just think the Yankees are on on the four aces the whole time or the devils or just pick a couple teams. The drunk driving in this movie is aged or worse

just because we don't do that anymore and 27 years later, it's kind of... And it's like, hey, man, are you okay to drive? I just threw up, I'm fine. When Freddie is, like, basically blacked out, Leo is like, here. And I'm like, oh, yeah, he takes him home. And he's like,

no, he just takes him to his car. Right. I mean, that is how it was. That's how it was. That is how it was. Unfortunately, that's how it was. Morwood's aged as. Young Stallone in the car accident flashback where he, young Stallone looks like meat from Porkies. It's like what's going on?

Could we spend five more? I know everyone's working for scale, but could we spend five more minutes casting him. That felt like a little bit of a Harvey thing where it's like, we got to show the car accident. The moment where he loses his hearing. It was tough. Kathy Moriarty, just aging out of the cocaine. chain air in the 80s to what, 15 years after

Raging Bull, it feels like 40 in this movie. You almost don't recognize it. Stallone says this in a 2018 interview. He said Mangold was the best director I ever worked with, but the film actually worked in reverse. It was pretty good critically, but the fact that it didn't do a lot of box office, again,

it fomented the opinion that I had had my moment, was going the way the Dodo Bird and the Tasmanian Tiger. I don't like that Stallone feels like this movie was a failure. That's aged the worst to me. That hurts my feeling, Slice Stallone. This is a good movie. Be proud of this movie, Sly. I think he really

wanted the victory lap. Well, we know that if you watched the tape of him in 2015 when he lost to Mark Rylance. He's still waiting for somebody to tell him. You're a great actor. How about the victory lap of Rocky won the best picture Oscar? Yeah, I mean, yes. That's a decent victory lap. I think he's been

chasing that for a long time. He wrote and started a movie that won the Oscar. There's no debate in his place in Hollywood history. I mean, you know, we've talked about this before. He's got a complicated reputation. I know. He's not necessarily been as warmly embraced as he probably would like to be.

But I will say, actually, the thing about this is, even though the movie wasn't a huge box office success, for me, I think for you too, I assume for you. Like, it had kind of instant cult status for me. You know, where I was like, I just love this movie. I'll watch it like any day of the week. Yeah, and it's only grown. I wasn't positive because remember I texted you

the while ago and I was like, where do you stand on Copeland? Because I know some people just don't like this movie. Been on cable for a while, like throughout the last six months, even before Leota. And I think that it's one of those movies that really expands in your estimation once you see, like, E.D. Falco goes on to be Carmela. And all these people and John Spencer's on West Wing and all these people are like passing through fucking the Terminator is in this movie. You know, you're like, oh, God, this is just chock full of guys. It's got some good rewatchable hooks too, right?

If you come in, right as Superboy is about to get in a car accident and you're going to at least watch that scene. Yeah, you get three De Niro scenes. If I get to be on the roof with Peeberg, which we didn't mention most rewatchable, but that's still a pretty good scene. The four-a-sac scene we mentioned, the car accident. There's just a lot of places to jump in. We very rarely, when we're doing this, do you name the seven scenes in that category? And I have all seven perfectly matched. It's like there are clearly great moments in this movie.

New category. Was there a better title for this movie? Yes. What is it, Chris? Garrison. Interesting. I was going to say searching for Super Bowl. boy.

That's pretty good, actually. Yeah, that's pretty good. Did you have what, Sean? I just wrote no. That was my response is. I think Copeland is an amazing title. It's very intriguing. Garrison's that bad.

What is Copland? Where is Copland? That's what you want the audience asking. All right, we're going to take one more break and then come back with the Stephen A. Smith, hottest take a word. Very excited for this. All right. Stephen A. Smith, hottest take a word. Craig, who goes first?

Chris. Joey Randone was right. Okay. So we'll get to this in half-ass internet research probably, but this movie was made in 96, I believe. Yeah. So in the original version of this movie, Ray Liotis sends,

you're betting against the four-time chips, but they dub in five-time champs. So I was doing a little bit of research trying to figure out what game they must have been talking about. It has to be playoffs, because why would you get so hot under the collar about it otherwise? It seems like it's in the spring, summer. So I think it was the Eastern Conference semis,

Bulls Knicks 96. Now, Bulls win that series 4-1, but over the course of the series, the Knicks shrink the margin of victory each game. And they lose it bad in game 5. Guess what they lost by?

13. He almost backdoor covered. So, Leo, is killing this guy. But meanwhile, I think Joey Randone might have been like young Haralabob. He was like, I got 12 points. Pretty good. Listen, during this area, you just didn't in bed against Jordan.

Okay. So that would be my counter argument, but I like where you're going. Yeah. Maybe Joey put some thought into it. He was also a drunken white bitters. I also love that he's just like, you night shift guys spend too much time watching Oprah? What does that contribute to his bed half? If Raleo is sitting at the bar in this movie, he's just spitting gems the whole time.

Do you feel triggered when Raleota is like, little Joey with his Mets poster? over the bed. Who's on top now? That's all I got to say. What do you have for highest take, Sean? I'm not sure if I totally buy this, but I'm going to go with it. Is this a top 10 De Niro

performance? Oh, Jesus. Here's the Pantheon. Now, the Pantheon is big. Off the top of my head, I came up with all these without thinking twice. Godfather 2.

Taxi driver. Mean streets. Raging Bull. Midnight run. Midster run has to be on there. Casino? Heat. King of comedy. Deer Hunter. Goodfellas.

There's 10. What about the one with Leo? This boy's life. I thought he was awesome. That's debatable. That's debatable. Cape Fear. That's debatable. Awakening's. Awakening. That's debatable. The Irishman. The intern. A lot of people like the intern.

But Jackie Brown. You want to fuck? Jackie. That would be his funniest. Why did you look at me when you said? There's 10 that feel like no doubters. And yet, I would rather, rewatch, you blow it! Right.

Then rewatch Raging Bull. Yeah. Maybe it's a top 10 rewatchable the dinner performance? Maybe that's the way to frame it. I would say yes to that. Would you have the mission runs? Midday rents number one.

The mission? Yeah, when are we going to do the mission rewatchables? After I'm dead. Yeah, when we go on a mission, post-Post-bills tragic accident. Do we get the pod when you die? Roland Jaffe? I leave it to you in the will. Okay.

Bonus. It sounds great. The biggest mistake Stallone made in his career was gaining 40 pounds for this movie because his face was never the same after he lost the weight. Interesting. If you look at him in daylight, it looks like Stallone, just like an older Stallone. You put on that amount of weight at that point in your life and you lose it. Now it's like, wait, I don't look right.

Now I need plastic surgery. And by the late 90s, he's wearing the Stallone mask. And I think it's because of this movie. That's not a hot take. I think that's very believable. Yeah. Thanks. And he is really jowly these days.

Who won, Craig? Who had the best hot take? Sean's was the hottest, so I'm going to have to give it to Sean. Okay. Great job, Sean. Best quote, being right is not a bulletproof vest, Freddie, or two kind of people in this world, pinball people and video game people. You, Freddie, you're pinball people. What do you have for best quote?

When Garofalo asks Patrick and Kytel if they're on the job, and Robert Patrick goes, no, we're coming from Forest Hills, sweetheart. I'm John McEnroe That's Jimmy Connors That's a really good one And also just Just Leota going Against the five-time NBA champs

What kind of bet is that? You made a plan on the back of a matchbook Leota just screaming at Stallone Throughout this movie makes me so happy I really like being right It's not a boobproof vest Just as a life quote It's a great one

Put that on a high school yearbook Pretty easy Figsy someone to look up to me be jealous Freddie let it out new category based off best quote

the book about medals award for best belatedly great quote yeah I think that your Maconrow thing that's the answer for that that's the one that jumps out all these years later I think it could be best quote

it could also just be like the best little moment I like I like when Frank about medals when Frank Vinson says didn't you say he was adopted that's gotten funnier and funnier but that's good

I think that's the answer In the selection show, you made the point that, you know, it's more, you cut these guys loose. That's the thing now that we think is great. So now, in honor of Ray Leota, there is a line when it's like the next morning after like he spent the night with Freddie. And Freddy's like washing his face in the bathroom. And Ray Leot and Figsie, who everybody is like, he's a cokehead. Figsie's like, my allergies are killing me. And it's just like, only a true sniff lord would.

be like, yeah, my allergies are really accurate. Yeah. You know? I got a Craig laugh. But you know what I mean? Like he's just like, oh, Freddie got any pseudofid? Fucking pollen's killing me here, man. It's like, okay, Figgsy.

I don't know what I mentioned. Listen, I was putting out raised fires when you were sucking on your mother's titty. Don't sleep on that. All right, casting what if? Wait, one other one. Oh, go. At the four aces after a figsy and, uh, oh, no. when he confronts Stallone in the bathroom

and he's like, I'm Gandhi. Casting what ifs? Ray Leota wanted to be Sheriff Freddie and Slice Stallone wanted to be Figgsy. It's just a completely, completely different movie. Slice Stallone is Figzy. I don't think Slice is going to get into that gear. This movie's bad.

Doesn't work. The role of Freddie was offered to Gary Sinise. Now, that would have been interesting because he, Well, one, he's got experience playing a disabled person, right? Yeah. He's the tenant Dan. Two, he's got a lot of gravity as an actor, you know,

probably brings something very different to the character. He's also, there's, the argument there is also, like, Stallone being this, like, almost gentle giant in this movie versus Senise probably being, like, kind of like this stepped-on littler guy, right? Yeah. I don't know that Gary Sanis is, but he's not Stallone's dies. And we mentioned Debbie Harris in this movie, but got to edit it out. The Ruffalo, Hannah, Rubeneck Partridge Overacting Award.

How's that edit going? It'll be in there. You're going to do the edit, Craig? Yeah, I'll do. Oh, great job. Maybe I'll set that up better. It's now time for the Ruffalo, Hannah Rubeneck Partridge Overacting Award. They knew, and they let it happen.

Don't you call me, lady. I come in here. I give these things to you. Give it all you got! Keep it all you got! I treated you like a son. You fucking stand me in the heart. Fuck you.

You made it out of the back of a matchbook without thinking, without looking at the cards. But Freddie, your plan is the plan of a boy. You made it on the back of a matchbook without thinking, without looking at the cards. I don't know why Keitel is so high energy in that. It's actually like, we can talk about this now or later.

I don't think it's like an awesome Kytel performance for what he is. I think he's kind of coasting it's like watching the NBA player who was better four years ago kind of coasting on the I was better four years ago I'm gonna just jack the 25 footer up. Like James Hardin perhaps?

Yeah, it's a little James Hardin, Phillyish. It's a, uh, thanks. You bring him up a lot on the rewatchable. Yeah, I really did. I try to. Very cinematic. I mean, there's parts of this performance, the Ray performance, where he's self-consciously overacting.

on the bridge, but he's like, oh no! He jumped! Leo! He jumped! D! Oh my Jesus! Oh, my God! I think probably I would go with, I mean, can Figsie get overacting? No. I felt like all

those choices are good choices. Kytel in that scene just kind of yelling over it. I just feel like that character is a, I'm not going to lose my cool character. Yeah. But counterpoint. Kytel yelling.

It's always fun. Another scene we've talked about on this show, you know, in the front seat and reservoir ducks, you're not going to die? You're not going to be okay. You're going to be okay. He's great at that. I love that.

So you don't think, and you don't think De Niro's go-to-lunch scene, is it eligible for this? No, I love De Nore on this movie. I feel like he is not overacting at any point. Another new category of the Bucch's Girlfriend Award for the weak link of the film. Why is Gene Grafalo in this movie? What happened? What chain of events led to her being in that part?

I don't understand it. We had a lot of good actresses back then, and I just don't get it. She throws me off every second she's in the movie. I don't get it. I get the idea of the character. Yeah. Character is, this is an outsider who's in law enforcement, who's getting plunged into this town that operates in this very strange way because of the power inside of it. So it makes sense. New deputy. Gene Garofalo, at this time, I really liked her as a stand-up. Me too.

I think she even had a really good HBO, 30-minute stand-up. Remember this? Yeah, loved it. And she was really funny, and she, you know, truth about cats and dogs, reality bites. She's starting to have a lot of success. But she is like this,

and you know this specifically, she is the pure representation of, like, Gen X disaffection. Yeah. And she can't even help it. And she's like five foot one. It's just, none of it made sense. Well, they've only got three cops.

I don't think that they're turning away, like, guys who would have gone in the second round of the NFL draft. But Naut Emmerich is kind of perfect as this kind of guy. Completely indefensible and illogical. It is kind of cool, though, not even a twist at the end when you're like kind of waiting

for her to be like, let's go get him, Freddie. And she's just like, I'm going back to Elmira. Yeah, yeah, fuck this. Right. You would have believed Edie Falco in that part, though. Well, we might as well do that now. I had that for recasting couch. Just switch AdD. Falco and Janine Garofalo.

Edie Falco in that part, it's just a way better choice. Is this the same thing or different than 2020? Well, we can do that too, but I had, I just had that's how I would fix that. I would have had E.D. Falco in that role. And I think the movie makes a lot more sense. New category. Not sure if this is going to be a keeper or not. The Judith Myers Award for the character definitely killed first if it were a horror movie.

It's got to be Paul Calderon, right? He goes home that night and somebody's in the closet with him waiting for him. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Lagonda is in there. Another great smoker. Speaking of Laganda, best that guy. Arthur Nascarlla,

a.k. Frankie Lagunda, who's the definition of that guy. Truly. Or Rawls from the wire. Yep. He's standing behind Frank Finson. I still don't know what Rawls's real name is. John Doorman, right? That's right.

So did you know Arthur Nascarlla's name? Only because he's Arthur Nascarlla. He might be the one whose name I remember the least out of that whole cohort of guys in the Sopranos ring. We retired the Jed Nelson Award and changed it to the Teddy KGB

award for actor who's just doing his own thing in the movie. I don't know, is Leota eligible for this? Is it Stallone? I would almost say it's Garoflo. Well, my other choice was Robert Patrick because he's dialing it up big time.

I feel like he's very much in tune with the rest of the choir on this one. I don't know if, I don't know, I don't feel like anybody's doing their own thing except Garoflo who just shouldn't have been in the movie. Kathy Moriarty, maybe? No, she's perfect. She's good. Okay.

Deon Waiter's Award. Leota is ineligible. Pete Bergberg is eligible. Okay. Robert Patrick eligible? He's in a lot of it. He's in a lot of the scenes. Edy and Calderona are the two.

I feel it. Oh, Dion Waiters were doing it. Yeah. Sorry. That's a hard. The whole movie is kind of premised upon this idea that every guy gets there like their 10 minutes. You know, like they all get their scene or they yell.

You know, they all get their scene in the bar where they have a meltdown and freak out. Remember when you and I were talking a couple weeks ago? I can't remember what movie we were talking about, but we were like, oh, Beverly was cop too. And if there's a moment where someone is like 20 seconds inside of a heist where the movie itself is golden, if there's a point where a cop gets to say, I need floodlights, I need divers. I need like, you know, like all the things that he needs to show up. Yeah, you know something good happen.

Yeah. So for that, I'll throw John Spencer in for Deon Waiters. Oh, it's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah. him on the bridge He's really like Pete Berg though He's really letting a rip on the bridge

I like Pete Berg bleeding from the head Who just Burst through the door And storms upstairs Where's he going After the cops finally let him into his house Are we overlooking Methodman? Well I was gonna ask

Do you think that they had Method man Where the contacts Be like do the Method man thing Kind of yeah Because he has a white contact on Method man is pretty good in this movie You know Re-re deemed you know

Like that whole thing I think I vote for him actually I'm a great library It's just Would you have Recast one part with a 22, 22, 22 actor. I can do, this is going to be a cheat.

I can't give you 2022 specifically, but a modernized version of this, I would have loved to see the rock as Freddie and Downey as Figsy. But they're a little old now, I think. It's hard to think of young. That's like, should we recast

Janine Garofalo with Selena Gomez? Yeah, like how do you... I don't know if this category is staying. We might go back to the old category at some point. I do like the concept of the rock and the Freddie role, I think, is good. Is he too jacked? Is it possible for the rock to be unjacked? He needs to just get fat.

Fat rock? He's not going to do it after you. He saw what happened as to Stallone. Half-Fest internet research. Garrison is based on Mangold's hometown of Washingtonville, New York, 60 miles from New York City. He grew up in Worley Heights. Many of the residents were current and former NYPD police officers.

You mentioned lethal weapon three. The two deleted scenes, one scene involves all the resident police officers chasing down a pair of black motorists. The other shows Heflin's deputy pointing out the majority of the tickets to shitting garrison go to black motorists. They just kind of dumped that. I think they should have kept both of them. There's a disclaimer at the end of the credits, which says this film is a work of fiction. It's currently illegal for New York City police officers to live outside the state of New York.

I'm not sure what that means. So this is a fake movie? Like, I don't know. I mean, all movies are fiction in their own way. No, but I mean these jobs like this, nobody can even have this job. I mean, the beginning of the movie, that they got this loophole because

of the transit authority because they spent a lot of time working on the subway as the gate in the out. But apparently that's not true. Probably not. But I guess why. I'm sure there are enclaves of Long Island that are not unlike this, right? No doubt.

Yeah. Cop towns. Yeah, of course. Joey's motorcycles in 900-C. Hinkley Triumph, Thunderbird, Chris. In case you want one. I was keeping that in mind for a piece of memorabilia I'd want. When you take over the rewatchables.

Do you kill Bill with your Thunderbird? The scene near the end, Freddie and Gary, are bringing in Murray Babbage to the New York City authorities. We see Mo Tilden come into the building. And his mustache is noticeably longer because he was filming Jackie Brown and couldn't shave the mustache. So you can look for that next time you watch it.

Apex Mountains, Stallone, No, Leota, no. James McGold, no. Rap, Port, you can make a case. He's, you know, like, zebra head. No, but then he's this now. He's true romance. He's done beautiful girls. Beautiful girls in this movie right around the same time.

He's had five years of work now. He did my favorite, the Nick Cage movie. Which one? Kiss the Death. Oh, yeah. I forgot he was in the... I hate the taste of metal in my mouth. It's around here for Rapport.

I would say beautiful girls. Okay. That's a year before. How about just about to sell out De Niro? Would you go this? So Apex Mountain of pre-sellout De Niro, but post-Goldad-Aged De Niro? Yeah. He made five movies.

I got to say, I mean, it's too close to heat. Five movies in 1997. What were the other two? Because, you know, wag the dog, Jackie Brown, Copland. Boy, boy. I think he did Rocky and Bullwinkle, I think was one of them. I think it's a year later. I think it's a year.

I got to look this up. Yeah, he's got three in 97. Oh, so I was wrong. He's got 3 in 96, or excuse me, 3 and 95, casino heat and 101 nights, which I've never seen. It's an Agnes Varda movie. He's got 3 and 96, the fan, sleepers, and Marvin's room. And 3 and 97, Copland, Jackie Brown, Wag the Dog. And then, great expectations.

Eh? Ronan, great. Oh, my God. And then the skeleton key has analyzed this. Because when analyze this blows up, he's like, oh, comedy. That is easier. And when does he invest in Nobu? I don't know.

He's already got that at that point. Well, I'm saying that's when you start having to service that kind of debt, you know, I know this personally, you know. Do you own an internationally acclaimed sushi joint? Noah Emrick. It's coming off beautiful girls right before Truman Show. Mm-hmm. I think Truman Show was his Apex Man.

How about pre-Sopranos Jersey Cop scumbags, Sean? Wait, Noah Emmerx's Apex Mountain is the Americans. I don't want to get that twisted. You can watch the Americans, I don't think. What are you think, Chris? Yeah, I guess so. Truman Show is a pretty big movie that made a lot of money. He's very, very, very good impriding glory,

but that's essentially the same movie. Okay, I'm sorry, you were making it good. What was the... Pre-Soprano's Jersey Cop Scumbags, Apex Mountain. Jersey Copts Cumbags. I don't know if I can think of another movie that was set in Jersey. That's why that's the winner.

Yeah, that sounds good. That's all I got, unless you have any other Apex Mountain. It's not really the apex mountain for anybody. This is a new category that I'm very excited about. Best racehorse name from the movie. This is easy. Superboy, right? Superboy.

Yeah. Superboy is a great, great. I can't wait until Bob Baffert makes his comeback with Superboy. With the preakness. Yeah, I wrote down Superboy. Picking Nits. Would Superboy have really shot those guys on the bridge that easily and murdered both of them from in a car that was going really fast? I think he also hits them with his car.

You think that was part of it? Yeah, because they show up and they're like. like these guys have been shot six times. Like, what were you talking about? Like when the EMTs are like, this isn't a car accident, and these guys get shot six times. But I think they thought it was a car accident. Picking Nitz.

Sean, why was Pete Berg fighting a crazy criminal Hagler-Hern style on a seven-story roof with rounds and trainers? And what was going on on the roof? Very confusing. I have no idea. Well, the shot opens with that, you know, that panning shot of his partner who's kind of down and calling over the radio.

and they're making it seem like they're battling like a like a comic book villa exactly yeah it's like the true lies and he's just like he's a criminal on the streets it's weird do you guys think ray thinks if I save him I save him if I don't I don't the whole time yes okay well I had this as picking this too was it obvious enough that Ray didn't save

Pete Berg because he was having an affair with Ray's wife which I guess was intimated but no it's because he's like at the bar he's like is this something more personal. But Ann and Bill is your character was like, well don't you go, fuck Rose, go down the street,

fuck Rose. He knows. Ray knows. Yeah, but I don't know. Is that obvious when you're watching it? Would you think Craig? Craig knew? No, yeah. You knew?

Okay. Don't insult Craig's intelligence. Very observant guy. This is my big one other than the ones we mentioned. So the evil corrections officer just happens to be on the cover of the Daily News after the murder with the just insane look on his face. Like he's just been caught at the end of Scooby-Doo?

He's just there on the cover? Gotcha. It's a great point. Any other pick of nits? No, I mean, we went through all of the Superboy hiding him. I have a couple. Superboy also just really bad fugitive. Like, it can't stay under the blanket.

Immediately sticks his head out the back when he's... Are we sure Superboy was good? I'm quite sure he wasn't. No, he's a fucking cop. He couldn't even fucking hide. So we talked about how they had a party for Superboy after he disappeared. The biggest plot hole in the movie. Why give Superboy a drink with a note on a napkin instead of just a note?

What is even the point of that? How about just pull him aside? If you put it on a glass, maybe the ink could be smeared on the glass. That's a weird decision. It's very cinematic, I guess, but it doesn't make any sense. It's also that whole situation where they decide to kill him, and I understand they're going to drown him so it's like he drowned the river. But there is an element to, like, he's expecting to be driven away.

couldn't you drive him somewhere more remote and not kill him in your backyard? Yeah, it was really an excuse to feature the above ground pool again which is a recurring character. I have another nitpick is just Was there an easier way for Figgs E to make a couple hundred grand than burning down his own house? I'm not sure if he's that smart.

We could have been a dirty cop. I was. Yeah, in addition to that. I get the impression he had a lot of debts. Yeah. Also, we point... And allergies. He's killing him.

Hey, fever is so very. brutal in Jersey. It's a pollen season. We did point out how the movie opens with a voiceover from De Niro, but he's not a POV character and we never really go back to the voiceover. Yeah. At the end, is there one at the end? I think it's a title card, right?

It's like an epilogue card. The voiceover's terrible. Now I'm starting to be out on this movie. I'm going to pick it part too much. Come on. What I said to you when you guys were texting about it, and I was like, this is the best three-star movie ever made. It is not a four-star movie. It has a lot of flaws. There's

some stuff that's kind of off tonally about it, but it is jam-packed with great scenes and great actors. And sometimes that's enough. I love this movie. You guys blew it! Now I don't like it! Your hands are tied now.

New category. Twist on the old one. Sequel, prequel, prestige TV, all black cast are untouchable. I have prestige TV. Me too. I have prequel. I want something about the establishment of Copeland.

Okay. The mafia, get a little Tony Syrico in there. I think this would have been an awesome early HBO prestige TV show that we didn't realize was a prestige TV. Almost like when they did The Corner. It's like, what's this? There's six episodes? Is this a movie? What is this?

I didn't like the Corner when it came out because I was like, I don't understand what this is. So then it ends? Is there a season two of this? Right. I think the version of this, the Copeland version of like 1997 HBO Range, where it's like, ah, it's followed by copland.

I just would have been in. Plus, I feel like they could have just brought new characters in and kept it going. That's true. New guys on the force. Yeah.

Freddie resigns. Unanswerable questions. I only have a couple. Just a little more about the chokehold cop, whatever was going on there. A little more background. What's going on with that guy?

Flashback scene? Isn't it? He's about he's, he has a police brutality case. Right? He's in jail. There's a grand jury. And then there's this fear

that he is going to rat on Ray to We get a flashback with meat from Porkies as Slice Stallone diving in to save Young and about sure We get two flashbacks

Can't give me 30 seconds on the choke cold cop When he was doing the choke cold? He said the fucking You can't even look at him Ray It's so good Just to have that

You sit with your back to him I did that part's great Is this a better movie If Kai Tal and De Niro's switch rolls Oh I mean, it's not worse. You lose, you blow it! Which would be devastating for me,

but you get more De Niro in the movie. Because Ray is so critical. And you get De Niro and Jimmy Conway smoking the cigarette, realizing he's got to kill Mory kind of mode. Sneaky Dinau. Maybe that's why he didn't want to do it because he's played that guy five times. Could be.

I'm not mad at it. Why did he do this movie? Why was De Niro in this? Maybe he just thought it was a cool script. You guys are like, don't, don't, don't, Don't fade on me. This is a good movie. No, I'm glad you did this movie.

This is a good choice. Look at all the weird movies he made. He made crazy choices for... Why is he in great expectations? It's such a small part. Great expectations is the literary adaptation. That's a critical role he's in. Maybe he liked the script that spoke to him.

He talked about it with the guy from Nobu. He's like, look at this turkey sandwich or rye. He finally get to act with a turkey sandwich. He didn't even have napkins in this place. The Nobu guy's like, I think we can expand to Beverly Hills. It's like, okay, I'll do this cop-in movie then. and make scale unanswerable question

last one for me in 2022 is Superboy a podcaster still alive he's out of jail like while hiding out oh after he's free

oh he comes out grown up growing up super boy that should be a new category which character from this movie should have a podcast right now well we had that

that was the ET that is LA from ET now a podcast yeah I can't see Superboy doing like conspiracy pods What if you guys think of like Berta

The Edie Falco character Could have like a call her daddy type pods Where she smokes Really hung up on Berta Yeah wow Yeah I think for Berta Any other in answerables for you guys Um

Which of these characters is a podcaster Is also a good new category For every episode No other unanswerables for me Next category is also new Would this movie be better with Danny Treo, Catherine Hahn, Steve Bushemi, Sam Jackson, J.T. Walsh, Philip Baker Hall, or John Berthal as Wayne Jenkins.

I think the answer is pretty quick. Burnball just made this show? Yeah. Berthal could have played nine parts of this movie. I think Catherine Hahn could get away with playing Liz. Yeah. Just want to ask. It would be great if J.T. Walsh was just the bartender at four aces.

He would have been the John Spencer guy, right? Yes. Yeah. J.T. Walsh would have been my answer aside from Wayne Jenkins being obviously literally a relationship to these guys. Just one Oscar who gets it, Chris. Hey, you know, Big Dog, we just got Superboy. He jumped off the bridge. That's some great fucking police work, man.

God damn! Just one Oscar, Leota. I have that as well. It's just as easy to tell him, walking in front of him! What is he talking about? I know. He's a whole fucking zag.

Unclear. You move diagonal. You jag. Here's Sean's own category. Best double-feature choice for this movie. Well, we talked about Prince of the City On a... Sean's like, I've discussed it with the letterbox community

And here's what we came up with after about eight hours What is that? Who is the Letterbox community? I don't know. Is there a community? Yeah, sure. Letterbox there is. On truth, social.

So you think Prince of the City before or after Copeland? Prince of the City first, then Copeland? Yeah, I like the better movie running first than my double features. And then the second movie that's like, actually, it's pretty underrated. Do you want to check it out? You know? Like, Copeland doesn't have a... bigger reputation as Prince of the City, I would say.

I get two suggestions. One's pride and glory, the Colin Farrell, Ed Norton. Chris, like a movie, so may. I've got two choices for you. One's a 96. We'll get notes of cherry and amber. The other is another very good late period Rayleighota performance placed beyond the Pines,

a movie very near and dear to me and Sean Hart. That's a great call. That's a wonderful call. I would go out of the 90s with the second choice. I like that call. That's a good one. What piece of memorabilia would you want from this movie? I have a, there's a subcategory

to this that I need to ask you specifically about. I would want the lethal weapon three pit bull machine. I would want Harvey Cartel's white and pastel blue track suit that he wears for the first 40 minutes this movie and he's worn for like five days in time. What about you?

I want Moe's sandwich. Moe Sandwich? The second half of the turkey sandwich. Second part of this though. Which card do you want from this movie? Oh. So there's Superboys Honda. Yeah. Would not want that. There's the sports car that runs into Superboy. I did

like that car. And then there's, it was, does Figgsy have a Pontiac? What's he driving? Figsie's car was cool. I couldn't tell what it was, but I liked it. It was very mid-90s jersey. Like an Oldsmobile? Yeah. Yeah. I, because like, Fixie gets in his car, he's got his $200,000 check and he's just like, I'm fucking out of here. Where's he going?

In that car. Jesus. And he's Fiszie. Not far. So, like, you know. Probably Atlantic City before it breaks down. I think he thinks he's going to Nassau in the Bahamas, but he's actually just going to AC. He's going to Borgana. We know he likes gambling. We know maybe he's there to bet on the five-time champion in Chicago Bulls.

He's like Randone was right. I got to bet the jazz. Second last category, the Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson. Move diagonal. I think you don't go down Broadway to get to Broadway. Move diagonal. That's life. Mine was don't live in the part of New Jersey that's really close to the water.

Yeah. It was my life lesson. The best part about the move diagonal is then he explains it and it makes even less sense. It's so confusing what he's talking about. But it's so, it's just the perfect, this is what it's like to talk to your coked out friend. This is exactly what it's like. They're so committed to their idea that you do not understand. It's amazing.

So your life lesson is move diagonally. Yeah. Well, I think the point he's trying to make is life is not a straight line. Which is a good call. You constantly have to pivot and make choices where you go sideways and you have to go around and up and down. That's why you can't, you know, you don't get to Broadway. You don't get to Broadway.

You got to keep turning and keep turning. Go down 46th and then go around and then go around. Wouldn't it be like, like zigzag, not move to a gliding? Because you were going to Agway. You're just going. Yeah, I don't know that Figsie has the greatest mind for geometry. Who won the movie? Our guy, Ray Leota.

Can we do? What about, I mean, I guess we just did the Andy and Red, like, what's the next day? We can't do it because they do it in the movie. What's the next day for Figsie? I canceled that category this time because they actually gave us the next day. That's so... Do you think we're going to run into this a lot? Yeah, that's why it's a conditional category.

We have some conditional ones. There was some that I have the whole arsenal of you never know when a couple of them will come out. But that one is definitely... You know, we're doing knocked up next week. And that one, that tells us what the next day is for nine straight months after. Right. A lot of movies do that. Do you like when a movie does that?

When they're like, and then here's what happened. Or do you prefer the Michael Clayton ending? I'm for the movie should end when it ends. I think you easily could end this movie with De Niro goes. I mean, Stallone goes, brings in. That's it. We just go helicopter shot. Affleck would go fucking double helicopter.

Yeah. Super wide, zooming in. Cut to Rebecca Hall in the Florida Keys. Yeah. Okay. Here's another question. question for you. There's a trope in a lot of movies like this, especially crime movies set

in the Tri-state area, that they cut to a newscaster, explaining the aftermath of everything that has just happened. A super announcer montage where it's super fast. It's just, yes. It's either the first or last scene of the movie. First scene of the movie's Crimson Tide, when they're

like, Russia continues to amass warships. And it's just like, all right, let's go. Got it. But this one is like, the famed cop Superboy has in fact been alive and saved. You know, like explaining everything you just watched. Superboy now is a podcast on Sirius X-Eb. Coming up next. David Cohn goes for his third straight victory.

Superboy's got the third best Giants podcast. Yeah. Breaking out the Giants. Danny Dimes, my thoughts. Next. Superboy was the last guy. First here's Models. The last guy to sell Joe Judge stock.

I don't know this guy He's going to get his message across eventually Reminds me of my Uncle Ray I know I can hear the nobody beats The Whiz commercial in the back of my mind As I think about that JJ's calling it a Superboy's pot

I love this pod bro JJ I'm on the GW bridge I'm gonna fucking kill myself Notation It's Superboy I'll hike up and listen You should call it JJ's pot ass As Superboy

And figure how long before he realized He didn't have to be like this. And every time you hang up, he could say, He jumped! Oh my God, he jumped. Craig, what did you think of this movie? I love this movie.

I thought it was amazing. I love Stallone. Fat Stallone. My favorite part of the movie. I have one picking knit. Yeah. This is kind of just about all movies in general. When people are driving a car and they need to turn around,

Ray Liot is on the middle of the freeway. He's on the fucking middle of the New Jersey. Garden State Park. And when he has this, like, he comes around on what he wants to do. He just slams on the brake, full stop, like almost like flits the vehicle. Yeah. Who in their right mind when they're like, you know what? I want to turn around right now.

Just slams on it. He's not a signal guy. He's not like, I think I'll take this. That is true. That is a movie trope that I've never seen in real life ever. When in your life, you didn't hurry. Slam on the brakes on the parkway? It's scary.

Yeah. If you need to turn around, just, you know, you get off. In the exit. Right. It's not like, I have to turn around right now. He's actually muttering to himself. Shut the fuck up. In the mirror, yeah.

He's so coked out. Did Fixie do enough cocaine in front of us in this movie, Chris? They never show him doing it. They're just like, yeah. And then he's like, oh, this guy's snorting all his money away. But it's allergies.

This podcast was produced by Craig Coralbeck. Thanks to everybody sending suggestions. I enjoyed the new category. I thought they were additive. That was fun. How long was that, Craig? 80 minutes. 80 minutes.

Great. We didn't get sidetracked. You seem rejuvenated with these categories. It's fun. As I said, it's like, a freshly shorn haircut. Nothing really likes more than that. It's a new thing of lingerie for your husband.

You'd just like to mix it up here. You love to get a thing of lingerie. A thing of lingerie. Thanks for this and we'll see you next week.