The Rewatchables - ‘Fargo’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Kyle Brandt

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

CR Month rolls on with a trip to the Twin Cities to revisit Joel and Ethan Coen’s 1996 crime thriller ‘Fargo’ starring William H. Macy, Frances McDormand, and Steve Buscemi. Producers: Craig Horlbeck, Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Matt Pevic This episode is sponsored by Anthropic, the team behind Claude. Try Claude for free today at Claude.ai/rewatchables. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Everyone has a favorite Colin Brothers movie. I asked you for a list a while ago. Hey, if you wanted to do a rewatchable, send me 80s, 90s, 2000s, you sent all these lists. Really fun list, by the way. Thank you. A lot of stuff that I like. We've done a few of them. Fargo was on the list.

Yeah. So why? So my headline is a hot take. It sounds like one. I think Fargo is a perfect movie. And I know we're going to poke holes in it. We're going to have some fun. Tom Hanks said that as well.

Not a hot take. Is that true? Tom Hanks literally said that. That was his take on Fargo. I love. I love hearing that. There's not only there's not a scene I don't love. I don't think there's a moment I don't love.

There's not a character I don't love. It's one of the best scripts ever written. It's on the short list of best movies to not win best picture. It's terrifying. It's hilarious. It's romantic. It's violent. And there's a lot of great movies.

I feel like it's a perfect movie. And I say that fully believe in it. I love that we're doing it. Perfect movie, you know, if you do the big five for Oscars and it's the performances and you're like, best actor, best picture or whatever, this one has the five tools. It's like best music. Yep. Best shot movie.

One of the best shot movies I've ever seen. Best script, one of the best scripts you'll ever read. And three or four are the best performances you're going to get in a film. And it's so distinctly them while being part of like this amazing tradition of film noir movies from the previous decades. It's just an incredible creation into Kyle's point, man. You're watching this.

Talk about a perfect game pitching performance. Not one scene doesn't have a point. Not one action doesn't have then a causal relationship to the next thing that happens. And it's just so funny and so sad at the very same time.

It's almost like the perfect distillation of what the Coins can do well. 98 minutes. We don't have Craig today in studio. He's coming in later. I know. Craig, the 100-minute rule, this is within two minutes. Minus two.

So when you say perfect movie, this is about as close as it gets. I think my favorite Colin Brothers movie is no country. Yeah, I just watched it. It's like 1A, 1B, and it's hard not to watch this movie and think of No Country a little bit, too. They're very much in conversation with each other. Yeah, and it's similar themes, and it's a more blown-out version of what they did here. The thing that's crazy here is it's like those, like those Greg Maddox games from the 90s, where it's like, I threw a two-hitter, I threw 88 pitches.

I struck out eight. Two guys got on base. And the game was over in an hour and 49 minutes. You're like, how did that just happen? That's a fastball that's 88 miles an hour. This one also has Randy Johnson's fastball. It's 100 plus. The runtime thing you can't get around.

I just named six different genres that this movie is. You should need two and a half hours to fulfill all those genres. It is so tight. I keep saying it. Every single scene I love, there's not a single P break. There's not a single P break.

fillers. And you're like, all right, enough with this. Let's get, every scene is the good stuff. It really, the perfect game analogy is what it feels like. It was like, I don't even know if they're ever behind on the count, you know, like, let alone a bass runner. Well, the controversial scene is when she runs in a mic from high school. But that scene's really important.

It's hugely important. It's the whole reason she ends up going back to see Jerry. It's that, it's not only is it plot important, but it's theme important because it's about the facade that all these people put up. It's about like Jerry with his suit and his pin. and is like, hey, I'm going to sell you the true code. You know, and it's like, but actually this guy, this guy's life is going down the fucking drain as you watch him on every single scene.

If you know where Jerry ends up, this is why it's a great rewatchable. To watch Jerry in the first scene and the first moment, every time he interacts with Scotty, you're like, this guy is living a lie. And Mike is too. And even though Mike is vulnerable, quote unquote, he's vulnerable about a complete fiction. You know what I mean? he's crying about something that didn't actually happen. You know how you know it's perfect, too.

Even the kid actor doesn't annoy me. The kid actor's always annoy us. Scottie's good. Like he does his part perfectly fine. Even he is well cast and performs well. And I love, I mean, the Yanagita scene we're going to talk about a lot. It's probably my favorite scene in the movie. There's two schools of belief about this.

There's this whole section of the fanhood that think it's hilarious because it's the most random scene in cinema history and serves no point. It's just a funny thing that Cohen brothers wanted to do. Then there's the second layer that they're like, Like, no, no, no, no. It's incredibly instrumental because after Margie sits with Yanagita, she starts thinking about being lied to. Yes.

And she knows that Jerry lied to her in the car dealership. I rewatched it again this week after reading that. There's two scenes of Margie just driving by herself. And she does some real face acting, Bill. And she goes, like a little tiny Oscar winning thing where she's like, hold on a second. And then she's in Leningrad's office all over. That's right. That's amazing.

There's also a third layer to it, which I think I hadn't really thought about before and maybe this is a little TV brain because you start to be like, what if this is what this is really about? But she dresses much differently to go meet Mike. She puts on makeup and like most of her domestic life with Norm is like, all right,

let's go eat the smorgasbore and let's go downstairs and watch a little TV. But she's in Minneapolis at the Radisson. Like what, like I'm not saying that she was going to do something about it. Chris, I danced around a hot take about that. But I think she wants to feel observed in a different way. She definitely does.

And I think that that's a third layer of a scene that is just like not a throwaway, but is like a comic tragic move midway through the second act of a movie that then goes into this relentless overdrive. Well, how about a movie where she wins best actress? Yeah. But we don't see her for the first 34 minutes of the movie. I know. What a flex. Yeah.

Incredible. It's, I don't know of any other movie that's taken that long. We've seen movies where the characters come in later. The best supporting actors, maybe. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but not this, where the whole third of the movie's done, but it actually makes sense when she comes in because there's no case yet. Didn't you clock that watching it?

When it goes to the Marge thing, I paused it too. And it's a paint, one of Norton's painting and they're in bed. I'm like, holy shit, we're just seeing Marge now. And the movie's a third over. I did the exact same thing. Yeah. So I watched this movie with my budding film buff, my son, who knew nothing.

Like nothing. He was really excited that it wasn't a long movie. Yeah, that. He got a couple woes. But then at the end of the movie, he just kind of did one of these. And he's like, I'm going to chew on that. What was that about? And I said, just sit with it.

Sit with it. Let's talk about it tomorrow. It's like, all right, I'm going to sit with it. And then we talked about it the next day. And basically, I think he kind of figured it out. I had to help him a little bit. He was young, he's 18. What was his conclusion?

It was just like, the whole point is that evil could be anywhere, even in the most simple place. Yes. You could have dumb and competent. normal, all the stereotypes of people who would live in this part of the country, but you never know what could emerge, and this is how it happens.

And that's, I think, what the movie's about. It makes me nervous that your son is on his phone while he's watching Fargo. He wasn't. He was locked in a-in-in-a-in-a-low state right now. Oh, really? Ben's, like, watching 2001 multiple times. Yeah, he's in a Kubrick and feel like that also.

But I kept peeking over to make sure, but this movie is so engaging. I know. And it moves so fast. And even like when they get the escorts and it's just there's a scene, she's riding him, the other guys in the other bed,

then they're watching the Tonight Show, we move on. It's like 20 seconds, but it's just trying to get so much done. I think if they made this movie now in the wrong hands, it's two hours and 20 minutes. Well, I mean, I think you could see

sort of a version of this in the series that Noah Hawley made that's inspired by the show, which is a lot of interesting stuff and a lot of like interesting expansions on some of the themes of Fargo. It's never really related, although there's some, like, cross,

there's some stitching that goes back to Fargo. It's not, but it's not explicitly a remake or an extension of it. But it's got a lot of filler. I mean, he's making, like, eight hour, 10 hour movies of each season, and it's kind of antithetical to the sort of what the Coins were really doing here.

I think to your point about, like, evil can lurk anywhere, it's also about how some of the stories that I think that these guys are so obsessed with, the Hollywood gangster and crime film, of like the 40s and the 50s that we always associate with New York, Chicago or Los Angeles,

and it's like Raymond Chandler and a femme fatal and a kidnapping or whatever, it can happen anywhere. Like, it's not the place that is the home of the of the evil or the bad stuff or the crime.

It's not Hollywood in 1949. People have it in them. And they can be in a snowblown tundra or in downtown Los Angeles in the 40s. It doesn't really... You know what the Coins love. They fucking love a big case of money.

It's, I mean, one of the lead characters in no country. They love desks. They love that. The case of money shows up in Lobowski as the ringer. Like, they love that. They love kidnappings. Joel's talked about it.

Joel Cohn talked about how it's just like, just an amazing dramatic conceit. Because it basically does a stress test on all the characters, both the kidnappers and the victims of like, you're being put into a position that you have to consider things you never thought you'd have to consider in your life. How much is somebody worth? What would you do maybe to get over on somebody?

What would you do with your partner who you're, doing it with, like, all this stuff comes out. Yeah, I wrote down some common themes from their movies. Let me know what you agree with. Okay. Everyday people in increasingly crazy situations, which always works in a movie. Like, even if you think about a movie, like, say anything,

like her dad is involved. He's getting in trouble with, what was it, the IRS or the insurance. Yeah, he was stealing from the nursing home. And he's trying to cover it up. Like, they love that. The evil starting in the most simple, unassuming places, but also with some of the dumbest people,

possible. It seems to be something they're attracted to over and over again, where it's like, can you believe these fucking Nimwits? Yeah. But this is like, this is 30 years, this movie's literally 30 years ago. It came out right now.

March 8th, 1996. But you think of the true crime shows, whether you're watching like a Netflix show or even like those 2020 shows on Hulu. It's always these people that you're just watching and going, why did they think this was going to work? And there's this prescient, the title card at the beginning of like everything here,

true except for the names, which we changed to spare them, but it's like... Yeah, they made that up. They made that up. Yeah. And like, people have gone through, like, old newspapers to try and figure out what case this is about. And then, like, they've kind of let it linger. They are tricksters

in that way. Like, they'll play around with the audience expectations. A couple other things. Yeah. What do you got? Somebody making a plan and you can't make a plan. Because it's the old saying about, man makes a plan, God laughs. Yeah. They find humor and everything, which I think,

one of the things that I think has been ripped off from this movie and I don't know if it's fair to say ripped off but maybe influenced but like I think of a show like Barry or even think of like the Sopranos when they lost the Russian in the woods like you can just see the Fargo DNA

all over the place. Directed by Steve Bichomey. Yeah and I don't know if I fully realized that for a few years but when we had hater on that time when we did know country and he was talking about her basically like he wanted to do Barry because of the Cohn brothers. I think that they especially shoot violence in a way

that to me it's almost unique. I'm sure there are other examples, but it basically confronts the viewer with both the high comedy and deep trauma of violence. So we'll get to it, but like the highway scene, the state trooper scene,

which is kind of funny. And it's kind of funny watching him drive like a Keystone cop after the guy and stuff like that, but it's also so sad and scary. Another hilariously funny part is the payoff of the ticket gate agent where he comes into the second one. Can I have your ticket? He just blows the guy's head off.

That's a horrible thing. And it's so fucking funny. Yeah. That's why, like, I have really vivid memories of seen in the theater because it was so unique. And I just remember sitting there being like, I don't know any of these actors. Like, I knew Bishemi because I was into Tarantino at the time, but like, never seen Macy before, never seen, I didn't know them. And I remember people laughing so hard at different parts of the movie that, you know, were supposed to be funny, it weren't supposed to be.

I just left as a 15-year-old or whatever I was, just feeling like totally unwieldy. Yeah, I don't get it, but it was awesome. What was that? What genre was it? But, like, I'm seeing it again tomorrow. You know what? So the opening credits,

like Sierra was talking about how when they usually make movies like this, they're setting these cool locations and it's big, fancy, lavish, whatever. And they do that in the beginning. And it's just basically a truck that's towing something coming out of a blizzard. It's the most mundane thing. you could possibly see on a highway in Minnesota. But the way they shoot it, you think it's going to be this awesome dramatic thing.

It's like, oh, that's a car. It's the music is gorgeous. It's the moment Jerry can't come back now. Like, he's given them the car. Now it's too late to do it. Once you set something in motion, you can't pull it back. And he tries to pull it back multiple times

and it doesn't work. I mean, I have that for Great Jack Gordo, the first shot, a whole fucking movie. Like, how perfect is that? With the music, the combo of everything. Yeah. Oh, go ahead. Well, the only other thing I had was about,

how you could have the best plan ever, but bad luck. I think the coin flip, they really tied that into the most. You just never know. Like, Anton Chagor kind of nailed everything. He's thrown a no hitter down the stretch of him. And they just gets hit by car. And that's it. Yeah, for no fucking reason.

Or his bones sticking out of his arm and he just fucked up. They, when they make this movie there at the end of probably, or they're sort of right at the end of one of my favorite runs in cinema history. They open first movies Blood Simple. Then they do Raising Arizona,

Miller's Crossing, which is probably... Is that your favorite? It's top two with Wolowski. Yeah. Barton Fink, Hudsucker proxy. Hudsucker proxy, kind of a disappointment commercially

because they had Newman in it. It's supposed to be this big movie. So they're like, oh, you know, what are they going to... And they go and make this movie for $6 million. Yeah. It's an Oscar winner. It's a pretty big success relative to its budget.

And then after that, it's Labowski and O'Brother. And it's like one of the great runs for directors, I think, in movies. I was a slow burn with Fargo. I think it's a classic rewatchable's example of, I liked it. But then it was a jump in to, you know, and oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, all right. And then all of a sudden, I was like, I get this movie. It took me, sometimes the movies don't sit perfectly in your brain for a while. and this one, no country was the other one for me,

that I'd just never like the ending. No, I'd never like the ending initially. I didn't either. I still don't. And then as I got older, I was like, I fucking love the ending, man. Tommy Lee Jones. Like, he just, he doesn't want to be out there anymore.

Yeah. I feel like we deserve to see Lou Ellen's death as it transpires. Yeah. We spent two hours with the guy. I like the guy. I know. It's a tough thing. It's like the way it is in the book and the way they shoot it,

it's, if we ever re-country, I'd love to do it. The Cohenheads want to go to war for it. They don't like people disparaging any of no country. I love the movie. I wanted to see Llewellyn and how it happened. I don't like that they took that. What's the type of movie that they didn't make that you always wish they could have made?

They made almost everything. Like, would you want to see their version of Roadhouse? They're going to stand on the shoulders of Rowdy Harrington. Their take on the double deuce? Yeah, I would like to see that. Yeah, I think I would like to see that. Take on Cash? No, it really feels like they,

explored the studio space with all the day I ever saw in the theater with my wife ever. We were just starting to date. He was burn after reading. And like it blew both of our fucking minds. Like we didn't know what we were watching. Like really, really weird stuff. And there's a sex machine in that movie.

And it's like, Brooke could hang with it. My wife, she was like, I thought that was funny. I was like, I'll marry. Yeah. So I feel like the Cohn brothers helped us out with that. One thing they're good at that is underrated as sex and violence is so mundane in their movies. Where even in this one, they cut,

There's just like that escorts riding Bershemi the second time. It's just so fucking good. What does she say to him? I hear bells. Yeah. Come on. No, there is. Oh, okay.

Dude, like, Angelo Dundee in the corner. Come on now. Throw the jab. Throw the jab. And he's loving it. I have quite a bit for Boucher in what's age the best. It's almost a special Steve Boucher category for me. Great.

So Joel Cohen said about the William Macy character. I hear bells. What is that? I didn't know what. sort of role playing going on. I watched it on the planes today with subtitles on. I learned a lot of things I never do before. It helps.

Role playing between the escort from the Hosey. The dialogue that made me think there was some extra thing going out. That's very funny. I didn't actually ever think it was well. She's really like in character doing something. So Joel Cohen said about the William Mason character,

they found interesting his absolute incapacity for even one minute to project himself into the future so that he might evaluate the consequences of the decisions he's made. There's something fascinating about his total inability to gain any perspective. He's one of those people who build a pyramid but never think for a minute about it crumbling. And this is like, this is every true crime documentary.

These people who are just like, no, I'm one move away from and then I can get away with this. And they're just making it worse. I don't know if there's like a sort of super pathology that encompasses being addicted to something or being in incredible debt. But the way that every single thing is just like, I have. have to fucking put a band-aid on the gaping wound that I have so that I can then put my hand back here to stop the bleeding over here. And it's like the things that he doesn't care about at

all are his wife and son. It's just the inversion of a real person. Where he's just like, it's so incredible. And the fact that through all of that, he's still kind of selling cars. Definitely. He's moving product. He's the executive sales manager. Jerry Lundegarde, hadn't totally happened for our guy, Bill Mason. see it. No. He tried out for a lesser role. I think he tried out as the cop who gets shot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think he's a detective in it. Yeah. Right. Something. But he was at Mr. Holland's opus the year before. He goes on this run of Fargo, Air Force One, and boogie nights all in a row. By boogie nights, it's like, I love this guy. Yeah. No. And it's somewhere in here that he becomes Bill Macy. And then when you just see him, you knew it would be a good thing. But I don't

I don't think it 100% existed yet. When did sports night on? When did sports night? Was it late 90s? Because I always remember his end of sports night that he does a one episode. He's married to Felicity Huffman. Yeah, he does like a two episode or three episode arc. That's like, I'm going to save sports night from the network or something like that.

Favorite Bill Macy ever or would you have something else? No, I mean, again, I just remember being in the theater being like, who the fuck is this person? He's the best, this is the best acting I've ever seen in my life. And then afterwards, you know, he starts showing up. Harrison Ford in Air Force One. He's in Boogie Nights, my favorite movie of all time. My favorite part about Bill Macy and Boogie Nights is there's one part where Jerry Lundergard kind of comes out. And it's when he's down the driveway and he's like, my fucking wife has an actor-a-cock in the driveway.

I'm sorry, my mind is not on the film machine. Okay. And he goes that like, okay, it sounds just like Jerry Lendergarde. I was like, oh, that's Jerry. He came out. It kills me. Are you giving me shit, Kurt? No, no, not at all.

Not at all. It's just the cinematography of the film. That's my favorite, Macy. What's your favorite Macy? Bill Bill. Yeah, Little Bill's my favorite. I would just say that Macy doing Mammett is my favorite. So whether it's homicide or Spartan or I just think

he's one of the best deliverers of that dialogue. It's a nice little small parent part and search you for Bobby Fisher. Something about his face, it's a one of a kind. It's funny because Bouchem is in this too, where it's just like these distinct faces that you can't compare to

anybody else who's ever lived. Bushemi. So I really thought about this. He's not that guy anymore by 96. He graduated because Reservoir Dogs, Mr. Pink, I think he's not a that guy anymore after that. But he does have this run of Fargo, Escape from New York, Conier, and Lobowski. Somewhere in there, he's just Steve Buscemi.

Escape from Los Angeles, right? Escape from Los Angeles, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, after 94, my whole world was Tarantino. And so I would just watch Reservoir Dogs over and over and over. when you see this movie and he's doing like Mr. Pink adjacent. He's got a gun. He's fucking bleeding. He's mad.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Exactly. He's just so fucking mad. And I remember just telling my friends, I'm like, it's like Mr. Pink is back. He's so cool. I love it.

I could watch Bouchemi for an hour just screaming at that fucking TV. Just put me into the ozone, baby, fucking shitbox just over and over. I just love it. I can't get enough. It's like you can watch this movie

and it's like, Macy, Bishemi and McDorme, could all be the lead character. Yeah, they're the big three. And I, I, like, found myself just, like, thinking everything Bouchemey did in this movie was the funniest thing I had ever seen in my life and the best thing.

Like, he blew me away this last viewing. McDorman, obviously, like, basically, like, this is a career maker for her, and she becomes, like, a pretty significant star after this. The Hallfamor. Yeah. But, like, this is, like, this time around for some reason, I was, like, mesmerized by Carl.

I was like, this is so great. You know what made sense? when I read this in the research that I'd never known before, that they wrote this for Bershemi. When you hear stuff like that, and usually some of the best work is when the director, writer, person is like, I have this person in my head. Every line

I'm writing is for Bishemi. My favorite for him is still the Sopranos. His whole run that he had, where he just was in full command of he was full Bouchemy at that point, but I think this is his best movie. Which one? Bordewalk. I never got into it. I did.

Yeah. Did you like it? Yeah, it did. In retrospect. After like three seasons. Yeah. Like, it's pretty great in retrospect. Because like I was thinking about if Boardwalk was on now, it'd probably be like a top three

show. They should just release it and pretend it just came out. That's the thing is that like when these things pop up, whether it's like on other streaming services or whatever, like they'll get revival. And I'm like, damn, this is like really, really good. That was Hey Dave, HBO Sunday night. It's like you couldn't miss it. I watched like three seasons.

The greatest thing about his character, Tony B and The Sopranos was like he was really the only guy who would stand up to Tony. Yeah. Tony, he has this infamous scene where Tony's like, browbeat him. He's like, you're crowding me. Like, you're crowding me scene? Like, back the fuck off.

And that's why he was so cool. And then he just completely comes unhinged. Great character. Van and I have talked about this that. I still think that's the best stretch of the Sopranos that season. I just rewatched. Everyone is peak of their powers

and they've just figured out the show. But it's still in. They know exactly what to bring him in. It's just great stuff. And then McDormon, who's won three Oscars, All Best Actress. And an Emmy and a Tony.

What she won an Emmy for? I forget it. I don't know. It's my research. She's got to be in a Tony. And she's won three best actor Oscars. The only other person knew that is D-D-L. Yeah.

Best research I could find for her is she once lived in an apartment with the Cohn brothers, Sam Ramey, and Holly Hunter. That's great. And somebody named Scott Spiegel, who's probably like, yeah, fuck. Scott Spiegel. Scott Spiegel is like, I don't know what happened. where's my Oscar? Because Holly Hunter won for broadcasts.

She won just five Oscars in the apartment, not to mention the other one. That's a great blunt rotation too. But it's funny. My favorite for her is still almost famous, but she did not even. McDormann. She didn't even, yeah, for McDormon.

What's your favorite? All my favorites are coming up Fargo. This is my favorite Bushemi, even more than Reservoir Dogs or anything. Wow. I just think it's... Is it your favorite stormer? See, that's a,

That's a no for me too. See, that's a great question. Because, I mean, I have a feeling of direction. You might be going on that one, Bill. So I'm just going to let him. I'm an open book. People know. There's a character named Dino Belvin. Yeah.

People know where I'm going to land. So it just starts going like this. Yeah. As great as Stormer is in this movie, he's not directing snuff films. No. Yeah. I mean, it's my favorite all of that stuff. Stormair is like, what could be worse than the guy I played in Fargo?

What about a snuff film director? I guess that could take it up a much. Film is really. But then they're still like, we'll put him in Armageddon. As a cosmonaut. So Francis McDormon, long career,

was married to Joel. Yeah. And her three Oscars are not like major, it's weird. She got three billboards. Three billboards. And then North Country. No Madland, right?

Or no bad land. Yeah, yeah. She got nominated. Was it a no bad thing? Yeah. Yeah. So it's not like she doesn't have her, I don't know,

like your big market movie, they're all, this is probably the biggest one, right? I think that, yeah, she's... This made $60 million. She's got, like, Merrill Street performances, but she never does, like, a double-wheres product. Like, there's not a top movie.

There's not a Mystic River. Almost fame is probably the closest. She doesn't do Mama Mia. Yes. What's interesting about her, too, as McDormon, she's had huge gaps. Like, she took a, like, a seven-year gap. Yeah.

Not long after this. I looked it up, and it coincides with when they decided to adopt a child. So, like, she's just like, I don't think she's got a movie since November. I mean, I think she's doing the next, or maybe McBeth with Denzel Washington, then she has the next Joel Cohen. It's a waiting project.

Yeah. She's on that rare list of actor where it's like they have something out and they're like, you have my attention. Yes. Which I think is probably a list of less than 10 people. It's D.Lish. You know, it's, it's, it's streep. Streep's still on there for me.

Yeah. I think Hanks is not on there anymore. Hanks was off. Yeah. I think Hanks is off. Cruz is off. Like there's. Jeffrey Donovan, who played bottles in a, and.

Shot caller. Ever the whole cast of Shotcar? I watched Shotcar last night. I was texting CR. It's just, it might be my favorite movie the last 10 years. Did Limitless come out the last 10 years?

I can't remember. By the way, McDormon, Primal Fear, like, in the fucking room. Incredible and Primal Fear. She's with the video camera, like just getting it, showing the stakes. I think she's great in that movie. She's also amazing in the Cohen Brothers' first movie

in Blood Simple. Yeah. She's for this movie. she's pregnant. There's an innocence to her. There's some great fix, some of the best face acting. She does some really good stuff

in the scene with her high school guy, Michael. The best. After he puts his arm around and then she makes him go back. And then she has that look on her face like, this is going to go for another hour now and I just want to like set myself on fire. And she's kind of that like frozen smile

trying to see her diet. Everything she's doing is amazing. Yeah. And when he's, I always like you so much. Just down. And it's so, Mike, should we do this another time? No, I'm just down again. Yeah.

Like, she's awesome in that scene. Yeah. And then we have Storm our, um, Storm air. Stormer. I actually, I've got a minute. It's DeBanza de Bonsa. Can we give him the, um,

Sean Penn. I brought my own pack award for X-on-Scribes smoking. I just want to hear you guys talk about him smoking. All right. This is one of the move that he does that is so hard to do. There's level. right. Going. And when you get introduced to smoking, it starts and it's like, you're

at a bar and you're like, I smoke when I drink. And then you start smoking, maybe you start taking smoke breaks, you smoke with coffee, you go outside, you get a break from work. It goes up another level. This is a move when you start using these two fingers instead of this. Yes, this is like a graduation. But when it goes up another level is when you either

have a roommate or a partner who's like, we can smoke inside. Then it's a new world. The final level is when you smoke inside of a car with the window. is rolled up. Unbelievable. That's when you've given up.

You are like, I'm just going to be a full tumor. I don't care. We're never going to let this smoke out. Only an elevator can tap it. Exactly. And it's like, Peter Stormor in this movie

and Dustin Hoffman and all the president's bed are the two guys who are like, I will smoke in the Pope's face in a closed lock or somewhere. I don't care. Well, he's doing something with the, you don't see it often

with the lid cigarette where only the tail end is in his mouth. It's right at the bottom lip. It's hanging out. It always seems like it's going to fall over and it's not. And it's just, he's not even really smoking it. But when he smokes, just going into his eyes. He cups it.

And the all time. And then it goes through the nose every time. Is when he flicks it out the window when he's going after the two witnesses. And he's just like, boom. And you're like, oh, man. No shit. That's such a great little gesture. It's a great.

Can I say something as a smoking prude? Like, I just, the double nostril blow is always really cool to me. Like, that's like a reverse dunk or something. Yes. I was just watching one battle after another and Leo's doing them constantly down on the table. It's the De Niro Goodfellow Slow Mo shot. She just blows it out like a dragon. It's amazing.

If I started smoking, I'm going to do a lot of those. I've always thought that was cool since I was a kid. It's never too late, Kyle. Definitely not. It's due that for the pod. Stormair, he actually uses it almost, it's almost like a lollipop. He's like Cojack.

Yes. Just kind of dangling from his mouth at all times. It's amazing. As I said, I love him and Dino Velvo. But IMDB credits. Okay. If I gave you Stormair, Stormar, Stormar, Stormer, Buscemi, Macy.

Who do you think is 1, 2, 3 for most acting credits? Most. Stormer, number one. I think Stormair has done a shitload of voiceover. And if we consider that acting, I would say that. But otherwise, I'll say Macy has the most. Well, Macy, I feel like did like 10 years of shameless. Give me some numbers.

Give me your one, two, three. I think Stormer is like showing up in, like, prestige TV shows for like two episodes still. I mean, so he's three digits. Give me a total number. 80. I'm going to say like 135 for Stormer. What do you have for Bouchemey? 50.

70. How about Macy? 105. Final standings. Macy 158. Holy shit. Way to go, Bill. Bushemi, 199.

Really? Wow. Stormair, 231. Let's go. That's, that's, I don't know, I've never seen this sequel. Do you need someone of Eastern European in a Russian background to show up and be menacing for

an episode, I'll do it. They were like, John Wick, too. He's like, no more. Say no more. There was an interview with Joel Kittamon. I saw recently. Joel Kinneman? And he was like... Swedish too, right? He's like... He's like, I bought a house in Malibu, and now I got to pay for it.

So I'll... He's like, I'm available. Yeah. And I was like, I wonder if that storeware. Like, I wonder what his house is. That he's like, I will do CSI. If he must... Well, I think when you're banging out, like, like, Dino Velvett's like,

four scenes so that you're probably in the set for like five days, six days. So you can basically go from, sure. You go for Dino Velvet right into, you know. Did you see in the research that Stormair has a band? Yeah. Blonde from Fargo. Yeah. That's what it's called.

And I'm like, I listen to some blonde from Fargo music on the plane's day. I had a quiff. Metal, hard rock. What is it? Folk. Fokey. He plays guitar and sings, though. Like, it's beautiful.

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What's your rankings? You should release the power rankings like we do Ringer 100. Well, we did this on Big Take a while ago. We did the Deacons Hall of Fame. I would say my favorite thing by him is probably still assassination of Jesse James by a coward Robert Ford, just in terms of like his cinematography in that movie. So put him against Great Shot Gordo and everyone else.

He's in the Mount Rushmore for you? Oh, he's definitely top top five or six. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. He's like Vitorio Starraro and Gordon Willis and, yeah, William Fraker and Haskell Wexler. But like, yeah, he's incredible. Kyle, he used an Araflex 35BL4 camera for this in case you were keeping notes at home.

Did Dino Volvet use a similar? I don't know if he did. One thing I noticed the second time I watched this, by the way, great 4K Blu-ray. Sure, awesome. Everything is white, the whole movie. And I don't know if they did this, then they're geniuses, but it all leads to the woodchipper where everything's red.

And it's like it's white, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And then boom, woodchipper, red, everything's red. It's almost like the shining elevator. And I wonder like if they talk, I don't know how much they put in on this. They've talked a little bit about how difficult. First of all, Deacons, the one day the sun came out when they were shooting, he was furious because he was like, this is breaking. Is there a sunny scene? Like, at the dealership?

He probably masked it. Yeah. Maybe at the dealership. It looks a little sunny because there's a lot of natural light in those things. Yeah. They talked a lot about problems with like shooting the horizon because the snow and the white sky was so much that you couldn't tell where the like land was done and the sky began. But I think it actually could. contributes to the feeling like you're on another planet

when you're watching it. Wide shots, white. It's one of these movies that just in your brain you can see different scenes. I don't even know how we do Great Shot Gordo for this movie. That's why my selection is just the opening shot because it's just a fucking whiteout. And then a minute later, Lundegarde drives right past your ear.

And it's like hitting a 40 foot three to start the game. I have a couple of nominees for Gordo, but the thing is, is that the shot as they like kind of push in or when they even first just like, they didn't move the camera. that much. But the lighting and the way that you're introduced to Carl and Garrett at the bar was the King of Clubs.

You're just like, I know exactly where I am. I know exactly what kind of dudes these are. They have six beers. They've killed in an hour already. Like, let's go. I know. I had this for later, but could you have lived in this part of the country? I'd be a raging alcoholic if I

did. Because I got to say that bar, the King of Clubs, in my 20s, I would have been like, this is great. We're going here every night. They got three pool tables. Longnecks. Escorts. Sounds awesome.

Do you what? Jacoby told me at a really amazing story about going to a bar with Bill, I think in Charleston. Sometimes during Granlin or a while ago. And like, I don't know if you used to bartender

or just used to go there, but you hadn't been there in like years. Yeah, it was in Panyahuah. And you walk, Bill walks in with Jacoby and the bartender just looks up and it goes like,

what will it be, Billy? Awesome. After like years. away. That's what you want. That was in Charlestown, yeah. Where everybody knows your name. Yeah. What was it that you wanted to? I mean, it explains a lot of my 20s. I think I could have made it maybe two years without, then the weather would have driven me nuts. Well, also, if it was back in the 80s, like, there's not even any timber wolves or anything. Like, that's, you know what I'm saying? The Vikings team work great. Pre-David Con.

Gophers are really important. Really important. Yeah, obviously. But even like, that guy didn't even have a ticket. Jerry. You kidding? He's insulted that he would even ask if he had an extra college hockey game. Two Oscar wins for McDormon in the screenplay. Big Shot Rajs did not get an Oscar. Unbelievable.

It was pretty good. Seven nominations, including the director. They did the thing where it was just Joel directing, even though both them directed. And then I think at some point, they just did so much good work. People were like, all right, fine. You can beat both of you. they always have this editor name Roderick Jains.

That's them. That's them. That's their name. That's their pseudonym for me. Oh, yeah. I think I read that. So they have a little group name for themselves to edit.

Yeah, it's Soderberg does this with Peter Andrews, what he shoots his movies. So what would be your editor's pseudonym? You don't know that. But it would be like... Mine would just be a machine.

Yeah, machine. So they don't went for Best Direct, and they don't want for best picture because English patient takes both. And it's an interesting best picture because Fargo, Jerry McGuire, Secrets and Lies and Shine.

English Patient wins. I don't know if English Patients winning that one a second time. It's a great movie, but that was Weinstein out, I think. Yeah. You know what's funny about that Oscars? I have a funny...

That's the 69th Academy Awards. Oh. Dustin Hoffman, I remember, walks out, and he goes, the 69th Academy Awards. 69. And he looks down and he goes, Jack is smiling. and they go to Nixon.

Got this big shit-eating grin on his face. I like a little 69 every once in a while. What a per. Different times. That was what they did. I remember at Bivley. I was 18. Best actress.

McDormon wins. Yeah. Beets Brenda Blethlin, Diane Keaton, Kristen Scott Thomas, and Emily Watson. That's a nice crew. Yeah.

And then Macy loses for supporting Cuba Gooding. also Ed Norton loses that year in Primal Fear I also think this is the last it's the last year before they expanded to more nominees or the first year when it was like 10 Best Picture nominees It was right on the edge I thought that there was still five

It was still five until 08 because they changed it for dark night Yeah yeah okay all right Macy I think should have gone for best actor for best supporting I think they put him best supporting but I think he should Who did he lose to? He lost to He lost Cuba God Tidwell.

Do we feel good about that? I mean, Tidwell's great. I think he's incredible in that. Other people think it's a horrifying win in that we should redo it. Yeah. The Cuevo win? It's a polarizing one. It's also a testament.

I think Macy and Fargo has stood the test of time. I mean, it's like he didn't get the statue, but I think a lot of people are... It would be an interesting redo because I don't think... I don't think Macy loses 30 years later. It would be my guess. A significantly different acceptance speech. But you also have the history of... You also have the history of Macy the last 30 years of work.

So who knows. That might have felt like who, I don't know, Nacey just showed up in movies like we're going to hand it to him right now. Who knows? Coober put his time in a little bit. Tidwell was a really, I love the Tidwell character. And it's probably my single favorite sports movie character.

Is that the only one that McGuire one? I still support it. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I believe that he was a professional wide receiver. Like, that's very hard to do. Plus, we got Cush right behind you. Cush slash.

Wow, that's Cush right there. Yeah, SMU jersey. Cameron Crow. That was his contribution in the studio. There's only three of them. Did Cush go to SMU? I guess they paid him. $7 million to our budget, made $60.6.

Where we're Cush of God in NIL is a great, great conversation. Oh yeah, he would. Yeah, anything's available. I guess. So made $60.6 million. Released in VHS, laser, DVD, Blu-ray, and 4K Blu-ray. The Fab Five. Yeah.

All five of them. Inspired the TV series that CR mentioned. And then Siskel and Ebert together said Best Movie of 96. Bokaneh. They, they had the criteria orgasm. when they reviewed this on their show. They were just like, this is why we go to the movies. They did. They did a lot.

It's great. I thought the same way. They're right. You can see Sean just lifting their shtick 30 years later. A lot of like movie celebration stuff. Sean's like, these guys get me. Ebert, four stars. It rotates its story through satire, comedy, suspense, and violence.

Until it emerges is one of the best films I've ever seen. Films like Fargo or Why I Love the Movies. You mentioned that the DVD, and all that. They also had this really fucking cool thing. When I was a senior in high school, I worked at the movie store in the mall. I worked at Suncoast Motion Picture Company. And Fargo

released this special version of the VHS where you would get a snow globe with a dead body in it. And they'd turn that out. And it was like the hottest fucking item to get. And we had people lining up before the store would open and we have to stock them and they would all be gone in 10 minutes. And I remember I got one. And it was the coolest

souvenir. It's like a bloody dead body like the guy in the red coat. I don't. That would be a good... It's an awesome snowblood. That'd be good for the memorabilia thing later. Let's see. Throw your weight around out there on eBay. Well, one other thing with the releases,

this is what's age the worst for this movie? They did the... It shot really wide. Yeah. And when it was on cable for years and years of the square TVs, the pain and scan, it was really bad. It really, like, hurt the movie from a rewatchability. You feel like you're watching, like, warrants of a radio.

You feel like you're in Minnesota. I know. All right. Let's do the categories. Most rewatchable scenes. We mentioned the opening credits. Jerry meets the kidnappers at King of Clubs, the most North Dakota dive bar possible.

It seems amazing. Yeah. Like, they encourage you to smoke inside of King Clubs. I think you have to do it to stay warm. Excuse me, if you're not smoking, sir, can you please leave? Excuse me, sir. You haven't smoked in an hour. Almost every scene that those guys are in,

there's like seven empty beer bottles, like somewhere in the shot. Yeah. Like even when they have Gene Kidman, napped at the safe house, there's like tons of dead soldiers lying around. I have a zag for this.

Yeah. I added in my picking nits. I think it's a little bit of a hacky way that directors show someone's drunk that there's like six empty, I think any proud tavern someone clears those bottles. Sure.

I think it is a little transparent. They do the same thing in Zodiac with those blue glasses with downy and getting fucked up. Yeah. Someone comes against those glasses. I think it is a little bit of a hacky way to show someone's drunk.

You may be overestimating the staffing of the kids. of clubs. One guy, he's behind the bar, and he cleans up once. This is what I wanted in response. I like it. And the waitress was also an escort.

So she met ahead. She's back there for a half hour. She's at the blue eyes. That little room for her. The kidnapping scene. I love, she's knitting. She's watching some 80s game show. She's like watching Wakeup Minneapolis.

They're making holladazzle eggs in the show. It's also the fucking funniest thing in this movie might be, them being like, and we're doing a riverboat cruise of the Nile! this year. So you guys got to sign up for that. I'm like, what? Can you fucking imagine going to Egypt based on a morning show being like we're doing a

group tour of the Nile? And like, it's such a perfect little throwaway bit. We think the accommodations are on that trip. I don't know, but also, like so much of this stuff because they're from Minnesota, it must be shit that happened to them. I know. The other movie that jumped into this was young adult, which is a movie

that is very popular in the Simmons house. Oh, yeah. It's a Jason Raymond movie. She goes back home for high school reunion, but she's still in love with Patrick Wilson. But it really ties into this whole kind of Minnesota, how just weird everybody is there. Well, also so trusting. Like, the strangest part of the home break-in is that Carl comes up, like, looking like he went to Spirit Halloween and got home intruder costume, like, with a crowbar.

And she just stands there watching him for a long time until he breaks the glass and all shit breaks loose. Like, you'd be losing your shit way before this. Yeah. What is she doing? Yeah. So kidnapping scene. Her face is great.

It's a really, like all of a sudden super, we're like, oh shit, we're doing this. I mean, this could be, what's our word for this? Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell. Oh, shit. Holy Campbell. That was fourth and 19.

The shower curtains is good. She's really good in that scene. She seems completely terrified. What kind of finder's fee are you looking for? We're not a bank, Jerry. One of my favorite. What a terrible plan, by the way? What did you just think they were going to give him $750,000?

The dynamic here where Jerry has set off this felony abduction of his wife, and it's like, oh shit, I might get some money. I have to call it off. It's so clumsy and so stupid. It reminds me of like when I lose something around the house, I'm like, ah, fuck. And I order on Amazon for $60. And then I find it. And I go to try to cancel the order on Amazon.

I'm like, no, it's already shipped. God damn it, except it's the abduction of his wife. It's so sloppy and so idiotic that he does that. And then I messes that up on top of it. I love that scene with Stan. I put in the three together of this. scene, him flipping out in the ice scraper is the next scene. Yes.

And then him coming home and rehearsing the phone call in the kitchen. It's all in a row. I love the rain block. How penetratingly cold it is is always in the background of this movie, the ice scraping. Yeah. She needs her car to get a jump from Norm when she first leaves the house. That's Midwest Living. Yeah.

I love the... Well, you just came from that. Just came from it. We're recording this right after the blizzard. Second one of the winter, two feet, all that ship. The first thing Jerry does when he answers King of Clubs is something he does like six times in this movie, where when he walks into a... room, he goes like this.

He passed a speed a few times. That's Midwest living. The scrape off on the thing that is so relatable, someone's gotten on the car, I'm like, God damn it, I have to scrape the fucking windshield. And then he has his crash out, which is just so well acted and so relatable. I love it.

The criminals kill the cop and two innocent bystanders. Yeah, this is big. Just keep it still, lady, or else we're going to have to shoot you. Laugh out loud in the theater. Hilarious. Really good unexpected murder followed by the, oh, daddy. Also, the Cohen's love a headshot.

Yeah. Those are a good headshot. This is like, it's always like, whoa. Like, it really stops you in your tracks. I slight nitpick. I don't know enough about shooting somebody from two feet away. Okay. But Marvin and Pulp Fiction, like his head basically explodes.

Yes. Would your head explode from that close or would it just be the divot? I think it's enough happens to Carl over the course of the movie that I think like he eventually like, like he suffers from some like random shot shots and stuff like that. Yeah. Marge. This is a quick one, but Marge interviewing the two escorts kills me.

Fantastic. He's not circumcised. Funny little fella. The running joke of Bouchemi being funny-looking in a way they can't describe, that reminds me I used to they wrote it for him. They're writing those lines

about how funny-looking he is. And you get that script, you're like, oh, man, the Colin brothers wrote me apart. This is great. And everyone's just how weird I love. I would wonder how that would feel if you're reading that.

You're like, how fuck. Tough. They're like, we wrote this for you, Steve. You're Carl. Even the prostitutes say how weird looking you are. Yeah, the whole movie. The great thing about the hooker scene is also, sorry, the escort scene or whatever, is

Francis McDormas talked about how it's just written that way in the script down to the, oh, yeah, like every, all the punctuation. It's like, so can you imagine those two brothers sitting there and then goes, and then the one hooker says this and the other hooker says that. And then Francis says this. It's so funny to imagine them coming up with this. We didn't, I meant to do this at the top, but we didn't talk about the accents and how that kind of shaped how this movie was consumed in 1996. Because it was kind of like an accents movie.

And in a way, it seemed like it was going to work against McDormann in the Oscars. I actually had this for what was the most 1996 part of this movie is that it's not necessarily the last time, but it is a time in America where different regions felt far away. and culturally very different. And in the sense that now, you can be like, I could find out like what the three best pizza places are in Minneapolis, St. Paul, like right now on Instagram and like watch people eat slices.

You could go in the King of Club's Instagram. Yeah. Be like, guys, it's smoke at night. I know. Bring your own cigarettes. This felt like when you were like, is this what it's like here? Like, is this what Minnesota is like and what North Dakota's like?

It's such an important point because I felt like in the 70s, 80s and 90s, the only way I knew what anything was like was in TV or movies. I didn't know what San Diego was like. Not a chance. Or Denver. How would you know? Beverly Hills, right?

You see movies set in the Florida Keys and you're like, this might as well be set on Jupiter. This doesn't look like anything I've ever seen in my life. And then how cool the show or the movie was in the location shaped, like to me, Miami was the coolest city we had just because of my advice. You go to Miami? Oh, okay. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

It's fine. I have Bushemie braided the parking lock guy. I have Shep beating up Bushemi. Let's smoke a fucking peace pipe. He has to get that in there, doesn't he? He's so proud with that line about the peace pipe. I have the father-in-law getting killed just because it's shocking. I got a real woe for my son.

No, Gene, no money. Who that fuck are you? The last couple scenes, Bushimi has, as an actor, you could just hear the coincidental. I'm like, you're done. You can't take anymore. I want you at a 10 out of 10. It's the phone call with Jerry.

Yeah. After he gets beat up by Shep. And then when he shows up and Wade gets out of that car, it is a hundred out of 100 Bouchemie. I'm not fucking around anymore. Yes. He looks like a crazed dog. And it's that perfect Bouchemmy.

The fucking paper towel. I'm going to kill you. I'm going to shoot you. And he does. He's such a psychopath. And he can do it in a new movie, including one of my favorites, which we're considering for From Helma,

domestic disturbance with Vince Vaughan and John Chimelta. Steve Bichemite plays, get this, a scumbag who comes into Vince Fawn's life. Yeah. But he just, he can break it out whenever he wants. I only have a couple more. I have the Eklund and Swedlands guy.

So I'm tending bar there at Eklund and Swetland's last Tuesday. That whole speech. It's just, he just rips off a monologue and a monotone. And he's just like doing the ice and snow off of his driveway before more snow comes and hits it again. Yeah. And I say, what kind of action?

And he says, Women action. What do I look like? And I say, what do I look like? I don't arrange that kind of thing. Are you calling me a jerk? Last guy I called me a jerk is dead now, and I don't mean from old age. I think this might be my favorite scene.

It's a great scene. I fucking love this scene. So do I. And it's that weird, like, deputy in the SUV who has two scenes, and then it's driveway guy. Yeah. Can I, I think as good a time as any, because it relates to the accent. I wrote down the five most Fargo people in Fargo.

Yeah, let's hear it. Like, just the accent, the everything. All right. At five, I have Jerry's manager at Gustavson Auto, who's watching the Gopher's game. kidding? You named him already. And number four, I have the female cashier at the diner. Oh, yeah. How was everything today? And Jerry's like, how are you doing? It's huge laugh in the theater. And number three, I got driveway guy going crazy out there at the lake guy who's just kind of just sweeping his wet driveway with the hood up and everything going crazy out there at the lake. And number two, I have our girl, the blonde escort from went to White Bear High School, Go Bears.

And then I think number one, we haven't mentioned him yet. I mean, Lou, Lou, the officer. with Margie. All right, Margie. I mean, that guy is like a thousand on the scale. He is by far. He's in the concussion protocol. Yeah. That guy.

Hey, you're Norm. How the panion's going? Brought you some coffee. Yeah, that guy. You all right. He's the one who thought the plate was DLR and then he was killed here. He's just stupid. We agree with you.

Please work there, Lou. He's the most Fargo guy in Fargo. That's a good list. Yeah, thank you. I'm trying to think if I would add anyone. But I think you hit everybody. There's a lot of fun ones. I think you hit the basics.

Marge goes to see. see Jerry's second time. We talked about the mic scene already. The wood chipper scene into the drive, which was in all time. It's axe to the head. Holy shit, we're doing this. Well, all of a sudden, we hear the wood chipper in the back.

For a long time. We have our pregnant hero who has not been in any danger at all at any point in this movie and just has a gun. And she's creeping around and we know it's going to be bad. And I'm prepared for anything at this point from Fargo the first time I see it. Like, are they just going to shoot her in the stomach? deaths are so abrupt in this movie. And it just

it gives you that sense of like kind of not the pointlessness but how fleeting and we're just like bags of meat out here and like anything can happen to you anymore. We've followed Carl throughout this whole movie being like, oh, is he going to get away with it? Is he going to get this? And fuck, he just gets

hit in the head with an axe. And thrown on a wood chipper. That's what life does. And then I have the three cents stamp, which I really like as an ending. That's a cute ending. Yeah. I think that the second scene, we only get two with Margie and Jerry, is unbelievable acting by the both of them, where Jerry does the, ma'am, I answered your question. Yeah.

I'm cooperating here. And she gets real pissed off. What is she say? You have no call to get snippy with me. Snippy with me? The only time Marge gets mad in the whole movie and like, she's just super steely. When he runs off and she's like, he's fleeing the interview. If you can't get an outside line on the fucking phone, that seems amazing.

So you have Mike as your favorite scene? Mike Yanagita scene. is my favorite scene it's preempted by the Mike Yanagita phone call at 1045 once they establish who they are there's this gate and then he goes so how the heck are you?

When they walk in and they go for that hug and Mike goes oh you look great it's like oh Mayday Mayday get the fuck out of there just like careful everything about that scene I'm going to talk about it later as well

it makes me so happy What do you have? I think just for filmmaking for It's the triple homicide in the highway. Yeah. Because you're like, oh, they got pulled over. I wonder how this is going to work out. You're like, that's not how I thought it was going to work out.

That also features one of my favorite. There are two shots that basically talk to each other. It's the shot of the two witnesses driving by slowly, and they're like... Yep. And then it also happens when Macy goes out of the parking garage and he goes past the attendant who's been killed. So I just find that the entire movie jumps up and not... I think Stormare for most of the movie ups and that,

it's just like home. and then he snaps. He's like, I'll kill three people for nothing. And it's that shot you talked about where finally he's driving, first time he's ever driving, and the flick, and he's driving with the gun. And you're like, he's Satan. He's going to kill. Yeah.

And then he's chasing them and then the part, it's like, that's just great. It's so cool. I love this. I think that's the answer. But I think my favorite is still the guy's monologue. Yeah. The, uh, Yanigita. Yeah.

Doesn't use the word jerk. He calls me a jerk. Oh, that guy. Yeah. Yeah. What's about 1987 or 1996 thing about this movie? You can go away there.

Movie set in 1988. For 87, Scottie Lundegarde's got a white snake poster over his bed. And 87 is the year that that album came out. And here I go again. I mean, that's 87. March of 87.

I didn't even notice that. Oh, right over his bed. Holy shit. I didn't notice it either. I noticed the accordion poster. Well, we'll get to that. Right over his bed. Is it a tony container?

Is it Tony Container? Is it just a white stink? No, I think it's like the album cover. Okay. But like that's self-titled album. Honestly, one of the most important music video performances. Here I go again. On the car.

Yeah. Tonic Tane. That is 87. Yeah. And so Scotty. That's great. That's 87. The 96 for me is just what we've already talked about that you could just say this was a true story and I would just believe it because they can't research it.

It's like they. Oh, good point. They like, they Blair Witched us kind of like this is real. Just trust us. All right. And it's not. People are probably like looking at microfeches trying to find like in the library. Yeah.

Minneapolis Tribune. The only other one. I had for 96 about this movie is $6 million budget, $60 million box office. That's the dream. That's a huge win. A 10x return on a modestly budgeted

movie that you have creative control over that winds up becoming. Raj and Gene just hugging each other in the theater. That's really all you want. And us three Nimrods in a room 30 years later being like, yep, that's the best. Perfect movie, man. Perfect.

I had no ring cameras because we just catch everyone immediately. Yeah, I thought about that a lot. I have faxing stuff. I have low-life criminals having sex in the same room and two double beds and then watching the Tonight Show. Yeah. All right.

So, Bill, I had this. What would be the show now? I don't, Fallon. I don't, I had this under picking next. Nobody wants to watch Jimmy Fallon after having sex. Would you and another guy? Oh, you're watching the SPP? He's doing bad beats.

I think Scott Van Peltz could interview Lamar after this game. Shout out to Scott. Great job. Would you win another guy who you barely know be in the same room? in two queen beds at the same time. Come on now. It depends on how many times he's been to King of Clubs.

I've never, I can't imagine. Don't you at least go out for burgers or something, come take a turn? Jesus Christ. I've been in the situation. Have you? Not all the way through.

Wow. But there's a moment when somebody's got to get out of there. Get out of there. Go to a different place. Tapes out. It's also weird.

Like, you're both doing at the same time, like inevitably one finishes. Is it a competition? then you're going, they're stopping. It's really, Carl also is like watching Gair. It's really funny. Well, there's two separate things.

One is, would you want to be in the situation? Two is, would you want to be in the situation with either of those two guys in the other double bed? And the answer is a strong no. It's so funny that they're like,

they're doing a ransom deal, but they're also like, we're keeping expenses low. Two girls, one room. He doesn't want to pay the four bucks for that barking. How do you think they decided who had which girl? I found that a lot.

How does that work? Yeah. Neither type was particularly a knockout, I would say. The most 1987 thing about this movie. Okay. We did not mention yet. It's a playboy in the bathroom reading rack. When she's in the bathroom, the wife, as she's getting kidnapped,

they have a rack of magazine. Jerry has a Playboy? Including Playboy magazine. Maybe it's just for the magazine rack. Yeah. That goes against type. I don't see him as that. That was in 1987, it was realistic.

thing. Definitely. Scotty must have loved that too. That's huge. What's age the best? We mentioned a couple of things already. I can do my run of Steve Bichemey here if you want. Oh, let's go. Let's go. So what's age is the best? Steve Bichemy 90s scumbag. Test Tube, the drug purity guy from

King of New York. Mink from Miller's Crossing. Mr. Pink from Reservoir Dogs. Mr. Sh from things to do in Denver when you're dead and Carl from Fargo. Just all in a row. Just an app, not in a row, but just throughout that decade, just played a fucking crazy

scumbag. Who do you think was the scummiest of all of them if you had like your number one? I mean, honestly, probably this one. This guy's tough. I would not want to spend a night with Test Tube from King of New York. That's the that's the like go get me my Coca-Cola scene with Lawrence Fishburn. Remember that?

Anyway, it's kind of pleasant. Like he's trying to make conversation about the road. Like he's in a sort of human you know? Trying to do a podcast. Yeah. For he is. Yeah. Steve Bishemi with a woman riding him on top is just really funny and it's age the best. And the idea of Joel and Ethan being like, what if this guy just really likes chicks on top?

That's so good. This board search. He's never on top. It's true. And Steve Bishemi being described as little and funny looking by multiple characters. And then the crowning achievement is definitely Carl taking a hooker to a Jose Feliciano concert.

I love the scene. Jose Feliciano, got no complaints. Fantastic. Telling her is in town on business, but just a little of the old in and out. before asking her if she's been to the celebrity room before and then he asks her if she finds being an escort interesting. What are you talking about?

She has this look on her face the whole time that's intentional where she's just like, oh my God. They told her like, can you make an ugly face? No, no, make it ugly. Do one more time. Not making it much uglier. Have your chin into your neck. That's it.

The best thing is what he's just like, waiter. The guy just fucking blessed. Oh, man. And she says she's never been there because it's nice. You know, she'd have been there with a client before. Another one stage is about, well, we didn't mention the score, which was great. But in every scene they're in together, Marge and Norm are either lying in bed or eating. Yeah.

They have no other interactions. We don't even see them like watching TV in the living room. It's just they're in bed or at a table. She's like at night, like she's got the chips in between the two of them. Sleeping with food. Yeah, that's tough. The scene with them at that buffet. Jesus Christ.

It's an incredible moment. They both are three plates deep. Now, she's deeply pregnant. Big plates. Like, what you do in college when you have need for 24 hours? It's fucking lunch, too. Yeah. It's not even dinner.

This is the thing that I was thinking about. There are two sides of this. One is he brings her Arby's, which I was trying to think of like the last time in my life, that life worked in a way where my wife would bring me my lunch and we would hang out at my work at all. And then the other side of it was just like the, amount of calories you're hitting at noon.

Yeah. And like what happens to your body? Swedish meatballs alone is like $2,500. So much chicken friccacy and like, yeah. Like that's a cream stew. Yeah. I actually had all this. World War III, dude.

I had all this written down. That's going to be a terrible afternoon. Because obviously this is the Big Kahuna Burger Award winner for Best Use Food to drink the buffet. Oh, good. Chicken and dumplings. Chicken fricasse. Fried Torah and broiled Torah and Swedish meatballs.

That's the only five. I think there's more. Because there's like potatoes. She got a whole bowl of jello. Yeah, there's all kinds of shit at that buffet. There's always room for jello. It was like the fat buffet. Is that fish? The tort or what are you talking about?

It's some sort of Minnesota fish that's really smelly. Yeah, I saw it too. Okay. This led me, I struggled a lot in this movie with good hang. Like, hard, like who I would want to hang with. Yeah. And I was like, I think it might be Norm. It's Norm by default, but Norm's not necessarily a good hang.

I think good hang, bad hang, is pretty. easy. Norm, we know the bad hangs. Carl's the good hang, Gairs the bad hang. I would love to take a road trip with Carl. King of Clubs? Get his thoughts on Montana. He knows where the escorts are?

Yeah, I guess so. There's a good side of him. I just had to find a hard time landing on Norm. It's too boring. And when I watch him eat that lunch, I'm like, Jesus Christ. He's a loving man. He only gets locked in one time when she says she's going to Minnesota

and he's like, Minnesota? Oh, yeah? That's the only time he's leaving like leaning forward. A couple more with stage the best. I like movies where there's the loser's son-in-law with the wealthy father-in-law. Yes, this is great.

And the guy's just shitting on him in all these different ways. He hates Jerry. And he's like at some point, he's like, well, I don't want to want Gene and Scotty to worry. And the guy's like, Gene and Scotty never have to worry. It's a coldest line in the movie.

It's just like just cuts his jugular. This could work out real good for me and Gene and Scott. And he just slashes his throat. Like you said, he fucking hates Jerry. And the scene in the diner where Jerry's trying to be like, this is my deal. Wait, no way. Yeah. You don't know. Like, he, oh my God, he hates him. I'm going to do all this stuff to Zoe's husband. If I don't like whoever she marries,

I'm going to turn to this guy. Zoe and Ben will be fine. Zoe and Ben will be fine. I had this on unanswerable questions. Like, what is it like if you hate your son-in-law? It must be really bad. Pretty tough. Of all things. The son-in-law would be, what, pitching you on like a player podcast that you had to do? Some terrible podcast. This is my deal, okay?

This will work out real good for me and Zoe. Her cousin's his own pod. Players' podcasts are done. They're coming back. The Minnesota snapshot we get here of the Paul Bunyan statue, the accent, college hockey, crap bars, motels,

buffets, bar girls, kind of sort of escorts. Truecoat being really important for your car. God, that's a great scene. It's just a really good slice of life. We didn't mention that scene. Yeah. See, that's, that scene with that guy pissed about the true coat. I love it.

I think it's Ethan Cohen says that is verbatim. something that happened to him. Really? It's like coming down to be like, all right, we finally agreed on a price. And he's like, I fucking slip the true coat charge on you right under the last second. And they get it in. Yeah, because he's like, I don't have my car anymore. And now I'm down here in the middle of the winter. Give me the goddamn thing. Yeah. The guy in the scene so badly doesn't want to swear. And he goes, you fucking liar. And he's like, calm down, calm down.

Yeah. I got to talk to my boss. He says he can knock $100 off that true coat. And, God, that seems great. I also have the accent stuff, which we talked about. But I think my favorite one is, you're darn tooting. Oh, it's fantastic. I don't know how you even write that. Where do you guys think, this isn't unanswerable questions, but just because of an accent thing,

do you think Carl's supposed to be from Minnesota or is he from out of town? All right. So he knows a lot about Minnesota, including where to get laid. He knows all about the glass ICS building. I think he's from the Midwest, not necessarily from Minneapolis. I think he's from the Midwest. Okay. Because he's like, oh, daddy.

When a guy gets shot in his lap? Yeah, that's a weird thing to say. He's just like, it's a weird thing to say. He also, like, seems pissed at Jerry and Wade and people to be like, you guys are so annoying, like how nice you are. You think you're big time? The heck do you mean? Oh, that's so good.

So you think it's possible it's from, like, Sacramento? I don't think it's from California because he seems pretty used to the northern winds, but like I came from being like Peoria or Juliet or something. Do you have any what's age the best? Of all the language things, I like ending a phone call with real good then and hanging up. That's how they say goodbye in the accent, including the best part is when Carl is saying, I'm going to shoot you and your wife and all your little fucking kids

in the back of the fucking head. Be there. And Jay goes, all right, real good then. And throws up. I love ending a phone call that way, throwing the phone down like that. One more break and then we're to do the rest of the categories. This episode is brought to you by McDonald's.

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Got a couple. Paul Bunyan towering over the night sky. Scary. Looks a lot like Gare. the innocent couple driving by the state troopers murder scene Jerry going past the parking intended that sort of like them

sort of going into danger that way is really great. I got opening scene. Yeah. Chess Rockwell, Brocklanders are where best character name would you go Marge Gunderson or Jerry Lundegarde? I would go Shep Proudfoot. Shep Proudfoot's great. And it's even great when the little deputy comes in, he goes

Shep Proudfoot, that's a name. Like they actually acknowledge how cool the name is. And when Marge says Mr. Proudfoot just sounds awesome. I love it. What do you have for a flex category here? Oh, okay. I don't have the kid cutting because we didn't really have a needle drop in this movie. We did Sean Penn, brought my own pack.

I had the Rick Chichetti Guard Meat Award for the most memorable death by a security guard or other bystander whom the movie treats is inconsequential. But we probably had a spouse and kids who love this for the state trooper who gets top of the headshot. I mean, you could also go for the poor parking garage guy. Sure. There's a lot of like just... Or you could go for the two kids who are just driving by. And just trying to get away and they fucking flip their car.

They could have just called this movie Guard Meat. Otherwise, it's Sean Penn. I brought my own PAC Award for Stormer. The State Trooper is a great trooper, too. He picks up on the bullshit. He sees the tags. He shows the driver's license and only shows his picture. He does even show.

He's trying to pay him off. Yeah. I mean, he's got the 50 hanging out about the top. He's like, I'll just pay for it here in Brainer. Want to be in compliance. Which is girlfriend Award. weeklink of the film. This is tough.

I mean, I think people would put in Mike Yonagita. Then they're not watching the same movie, isn't it? I think that's an important scene. I don't have a weak link. I think the only weakling could be if you're someone who is really turned off by graphic violence, like the wood chipper, I'm not that person. You know, like if, I don't know if my wife would like the state trooper scene and she might be like, I don't like that movie because of that.

Or if it's too flippant. If there's something about the violence that doesn't feel like, wait, we have to sit with this. I mean, it's so well shot. I have a week link that's really a picking knit, but you could talk yourself into it. Like, Scotty's just not curious enough. Where's mom?

He's a teenager. I know, but I was trying to think of my own son, if my wife just disappeared out of nowhere, how many days before he would have been like, hey, where's mom? What the fuck's going on? Why are you on the phone all the time? I just think kids are a little more perceptive than young Scott.

He asked, like, are you going to call the cops? Are you going to call Stan? and like he's nervous for sure. I think the kid calls the cops. At some point the kid's like, my mom's gone. I want, I need to tell the police. Because he says to his dad, like, we should call the cops. And he's like, no, like, he really like puts the scared.

The whole part about not calling the cops is a borderline weekling. It's a very compressed amount of time, too. I don't think it's like a week and a half of them like kicking around, really. One of the lessons of this movie, call the fucking cops. Sure. That was the father-in-law's mistake. He's like, no, no, we can't bring him in here. And Scotty, maybe be nicer to your mom

because you never know when she's going to get kidnapped. Yeah, true. Come on, Scotty. What's age the worst? We mentioned how they did the Blair Witch move. That was really all I had for what's age the worst. Because it just seems dopey now because you would just Google and be like, this didn't happen.

Why did these fucking guys do this? I think as a character who has aged the worst if you went into the future in the fictional world of Fargo, it would be Scotty, totally fucking orphaned. But probably a multimillionaire because you, He's in Wades Estate. Inheriting Wade's Estate. Yeah.

So now he's running parking lots and all of Brainerd, I guess. Yeah, his mom's murdered. His grandpa's murder. Very dark guy. I would love to see Fargo, too, just the Scotty Chronicles. Maybe he buys the Minnesota Wild,

you know, like. That's good. But in with Glenn Taylor and the T. I guess the only thing that's aged the worst is I personally don't really see a lot of hot buffets getting used up recent anymore.

Do you? I see him at the supermarket. That's our supermarket. has a hot food buffet. It'll be like a sweet and sour shrimp and then like ears of corn. It's always interesting. Yeah. But then I just always think twice about it.

I think middle America, it's still going. Okay. There's a big spit guard factor there. Yeah. It's very communal. Even, okay, put it this way. Smorgersborg style, like, it's all 4,500 calories per scoop. Yeah.

My age is the worst. It was really jarring watching this. Do you guys now, like, do you sleep with your phone on your bedside table or is it away from where you sleep. It's pretty close. I, I, uh, flagrantly don't listen to all the evidence not to put your phone near where you do. I haven't like within reach. I've done the work and it's like in another room. Margie being woken up by that phone next to her fucking face with an actual functional bell inside it like in the middle of the night. Like I, I wonder if like when Ben watched this is like, holy shit. Like that phone is so loud. Oh my God. And you don't even know who's calling. It could be

an ex-murderer or could be some weirdo from high school. The fact that she's just picking this up in the middle of the night, like, I used to do that, of course, because I was alive for that, but that's aged terribly. Yeah. Not being able to turn your ringer off, but also see who called it's crazy. And if you took the phone off the hook, it would be big, yeah, she's probably one of, you know,

a dozen cops in, like a certain area in Brainerd, so she's got to have the phone. I think the buffet for lunch was a good call, CR. Because of what stage is the worst? When you said smorgasbord, my mouth dried up a little bit. Yeah, it's just like I just very rarely come across somebody's like, Like, I got to hit this chicken friccassied and meatballs before I get back to the afternoon part of my job. I get some potato salad, too.

When I went for Kimmel's show, we used to have, like, we'd write, we'd have this big lunch that they would cater every day. Yeah. They'd bring in, like, Italian, and people would be like, oh, we should get tired of day or Zanku chicken and get all this food, and we would all, like, overeat. And then it's like, all right, time to write jokes. And we'd all be like, all right.

You didn't even eat, like, before we do a live show. Like, it'll be eight p. Oh, yeah. I'm just going pure hot water. So then I'm just going. I was like, we got to stop eating so heavy before we do, like we should get healthier stuff. Everyone was so fucking mad at me.

Yeah. It's like fucking Simmons, do East Coast shit. Want to get salads. Fuck you. Like, they wanted sandwiches and that stuff. But I was thinking about that when I was watching that buffet, just eating a Swedish meatball at 1230 in the afternoon. I wouldn't be able to function after that.

Hans Gruber scale, villain ranking. We'll do Stormar, I guess, for this. How would you rank the Stormer in this movie, though? Is Jerry the most evil person in this movie? I had this in unanswerable questions. Is he the worst person in the movie? I actually think he is,

because he doesn't care about his son at all. He has stuff to actually care about and doesn't. His wife and his son, he's just their fucking disposable for some weird place. The Stormair is just like a sociopath. He doesn't feel anything. But I think Lundegarde is the most despicable character by far. So in some ways he's like the biggest villain in the movie.

So what rankin would you give him? I have like zero to Gruber. Yeah, like an eight. He's also the biggest pussy. I give him more of a Simon Gruber, like a little bit below a Simon group. Like a 7-8, yeah. He like, they call him out in the first scene.

He won't even ask his wife or the father-in-law for the money. Oh, when they catch him in the hotel room and he's just like, ah. Oh my gosh, isn't that great? Like screaming like a baby? No. He's fresh, fresh in prison. How do you think London Gar's going to do in prison?

Fargo, too. Yeah. Lendergards. Lendergards done. Jesus, Lundigard in prison. He's not making friends of the skinheads to try to try to survive. He's just getting killed. Ruffelahina Rubik purchase over acting word. I didn't have

anybody for this. It's hard to give it to this movie because everybody's so good. Yeah. I mean, you want to give it to Yonagita? No, like he's these spectacular. He's nailing it. Proudfoot goes for it, like, but he's supposed to. You know, it's... Crowdfoot may be the closest. Yeah. Yeah. You motherfucker!

You have a flex category, Kyle. All right, flex category. I'm going to do the the Will Campbell Award for a character who knows weighing over his head and is going to mess it up for the rest of the movie.

No, I just made that. Oh my God. I haven't seen Bill since the Super Bowl, so I wanted to hit him with some Super Bowl. Will Campbell Award for the character with the shortest arms. Yeah.

I felt like I got shot in the face like Carl. There's an actor, you know, is not up to the task with the rest of the cast. No, I don't have that. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

No, I have Billy Bats award for the most biting and scalable insult. the scene with him pulling up to that the parking ticket. Oh my God. Your clip on tie. Here we go. I suppose you think you're an authority figure. That stupid fucking tie in uniform.

How big guy? Can't clip on tie there, big fucking man? If these are the limits of your life, pal. Ruley a little fucking gate here. Here's your $4. You pathetic piece of shit. God, isn't that erotic? And this guy, you'd say that shot of his smile

just fading and just stupid bad teeth and everything. it's and then as there's this part with that scene changes where he goes I just pulled in here and then he has his buddy goes I just fucking pulled in here and then the guy starts honking

that scene is so relatable like we've all been at that gate and be like I really have to pay the $4 and he even tries to like kind of reach out to him where he's like I've decided not to go on my trip

it turns out so it's not even like I'm deciding not to park I'm not even flying where I thought it was going to fly I still have to pay the $4 $4. Yeah right

you fucking kidding me oh god I love that part and it's an amazing put down that was a good one thank you The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harris-support, how does take a word? Would you have C.R? We alluded to this a little bit in our opening conversation,

but this movie is in direct conversation with no country for old men. And I think, you know, you have the bag of money, the character in over their head, sacrificial wife and a cop who is trying to make sense of the extreme violence that they come across. I thought it was amazing that Marge's last lines basically is like, so that was Mr. Lundergard. That was Mrs. Lundergard over there on the floor. and I guess that was your accomplice in the Woodchipper and those three people in Brainerd

and for what? For a little bit of money there's more to life than a little money you know don't you know that and here you are it's a beautiful day well I don't understand it and then at Tom Bell Tommy Lee Jones in no country just goes to the crime you see now it's hard to even take its measure

it's not that I'm afraid of it I always knew you had to be willing to die to do this job but I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don't understand it's just kind of like that I've gotten to the sort of part of evil and the darkness out there that is incomprehensible.

It's amazing that these guys are like, that in between Kormat and McCarthy writes this novel, but that they're kind of making the same story and talking about the same stuff. Interesting. Yeah, because that's one of the things I love about No Country is he has this realization, like, what am I doing this for?

Yeah. Like, there's some dark shit out there. I'm getting older, and I just, it's not for me anymore. I think about that when I watch some of the, cop movies sometimes. These people, you know, in their early 30s, they're jumping over, like, parking garage just trying to catch somebody.

And it's like, at some point, you must realize. Definitely. The fuck, man. There's just going to be another guy coming. I know. I'm doing this. I don't get respect from anybody for it. Remember, I mean, the end of seven

where he's like, the world is a wonderful place and worth fighting for, I believe, the first part. Yeah. And the Morgan Freeman's just like, I just saw the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Yeah. This is no, I think I'm done.

Yeah, I'm done. What did you have for this, Kyle? So, Geyer Grimswood, Stormier in this. Yeah. Of all the insane shit he does in this movie, the woodshipper, the executions, by far the craziest thing he does is calling for a second pancake meal in one day. Fucking outrageous. Have you ever done it? I don't think it's ever been done.

I want to put yourself in the position where you're on a fucking road trip. And in the morning, you have a full stack of fluffy, buttery, syrupy pancakes. And you're sitting, it's like media constipation. You're sitting. you're fucking farting. You're disgusting. You are chain smoking. You're chain smoking.

And then in the same day, they're like, let's run it back. I want another stack of pancakes. Carl's first reaction is, what are nuts? And I feel like the coens are like, we need a creative way to tell people what a lunatic this is.

He's only interested in like cigarettes, pancakes and killing people. Not even like, not even pasta or pizza. Like pancakes. I don't want it in the same week after a plate of pancakes. And there's also this funny detail where the line says, we stop at Pancakes House.

And he kept going to the Coens and be like, I think there's a typo in the script. It should be pancakes. And they're like, there's no typos in the script. It's pancake's house, which makes them sound more crazy. It's like you have a fucking mattress in your stomach all day in that car. I'm trying to remember like, this is a great one. Like, when have you doubled cuisine in the same day?

And what cuisine would it be? Yeah. Pizza, maybe like tacos, like a breakfast burrito? If we had Joe Hass here, he would just be rattling on. He'd be like, oh, I'll do a morning gumbo and then like a nighttime seafood tower. I couldn't do it. It would probably be protein, probably not dairy.

But you know that Grims was like that full ice cream scoop of butter on every slice, not to mention the sides. And Carl's like, let's get a steak and a beer. And he's like, more fucking pancakes. It's insane. All the other shit. I get why he puts the wood chip where he's to conceal the evidence. He shoots the cop of self-preservation.

The pancakes is inexplicable. Red Arbeck used to find any self- that had pancakes. Are you serious? Slow them down? Just an actual fine. Are you saying Red Arrack invented heat culture? If Red Arbac found out

you had pancakes, he fined you like $25. He thought they were the worst thing a human being could eat. Yeah, they're rough. They're fucking amazing, though. My out of stake, in 1997, a year after this movie, a pilot was filmed for a TV series set in Brainer shortly after the events of the film

starring Edie Falco as Marge Gunderson, no involvement from the Cohen's directed by Kathy Bates, the pilot you can find on YouTube by sent it to you guys it's an amazing what if yeah because if this pilot gets picked up the Sopranos now no longer has edie falco as carmella who i think there's three people that have to be on that show right if you're going Sopranos does this show work without these people it's really only tony and carmela i even think you could have somebody else's melphy and probably be fine yeah polly walnuts would be my third I just think he's irreplaceable.

And one of the funniest people have ever been on. Would Imperiali be like essential? Imperally, maybe. So there's four. Yeah, Imperiali would be the fourth. But I just think if you take Carmelo out of that, I don't think that's the greatest show of all time anymore. So the pilot doesn't get picked up.

Huge what if. It's almost like we have in sports where it's like, there's a chain. Portland had taken MJ. The fucking world splits. The ripples go up to there's no Fargo series from Noah Hawley. Right. So you miss out.

on Pearson Dunson, Jesse Plymouth season, the Billy Bob Thornton Renaissance kind of starts on Fargo. Oh, yeah. Like, there's a lot of stuff that comes out of Fargo that wouldn't have happened. Edie Falco, instead she goes and does Oz. Yes.

Which leads to Sopranos. We get her in Oz for a year. She's interesting because they, initially they wanted Braco for Carmella. She said no. She didn't want to be the wife again. She's done Karen. So I wonder if they could have gotten her.

Probably not. I think you're right. Like, you can't have that show without Falco. She's one of the greatest performances ever. She didn't want to be the wife. Carmela. Because that's all we had. Karen!

They would have found it. They would have found it. It's all we had. They would have. Casting would have. Oh, no. The way she says, oh, no. Cassie would hips.

I almost couldn't believe this and had to research it, and it's true. I thought I was internet bullshit, and it's just not. Bill Pullman was supposed to be Jerry. Really? Bill Pullman. Bill Pullman was supposed to be Jerry

and had to back out, had some sort of scheduling conflict, and that's what led the way Macey being... Like, yeah, Macy talked about how he basically chased the Coens across the country doing auditions. Bill Pullman. He's way too handsome.

Like, he's... Pullman is dashing. Like, he's romantic leads. No way. God, I wonder what he pulled out for. Bill Pullman is in the... That wouldn't have been... That's not an Independence Day, right?

Like, when would he... Independence Day is like 96. Right around there. Bill Pullman was in the mix in like a big, big A-list way for like five years. Sure. Because even malice, which we have not thought of the rewatchables, but Sierra and I both love. Yeah. But it's him, Kidman, and Alck Baldwin.

Yeah. Three of them. He's in Independence Day. I don't know. He's in one of the wider. He's in one of those wider. Yeah. Yeah, which one of those wider.

He's in the costume one. Yeah, it's a wider. The wider from. Then they looked at Richard Jenkins for a while and gave it to Mason. I don't know. Jenkins. Jenkins is so good in Bernhardt. Jenkins with a Minnesota accent.

I know. If Pullman becomes Lundegarde, does William H. Mace become the president of the United States of Independence Day? That would be pretty good. Wow. As Jerry and Lundegarde. We will not go quietly tonight, okay?

Best that guy. It has to be Harv-Presnell as Wade goes to send. Is that what you had, Chris? No, I had Larry Brandon. I got Larry Brandon Burke. Stan. Stan Grossman. He's in Shawshank.

He's part of the crew. Think about it. He doesn't have any lines. But he's part of that Red and Andy Crew was betting on the fresh fish. And I just, I had no idea what his name was. Larry Brandenberg has Stan Grossman. Is that what you had, Chris? That's what I had.

You know, he does two episodes of Cheers. It's a really good one. You might be right. Because the only reason that had Harve, he had him made a movie in 20 years. This is awesome. Yes. He was like this 50, 60, 70s guy and then retired. And then they'd like pulled them back.

somehow. They have the best eye for faces. They'll just be like, that's who it is. And then like two seconds later, he's in Private Ryan as like a general. Oh,

that's right. He shows up in that movie. But the only one arm guy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Shawshank crew was, it was the guy who was in silent rage. Yeah.

That guy. I don't know his name, but it was the stuttering guy. I do believe you're talking out of your ass. Yeah. The stuttering guy. Uh-huh. it was Brooks

William Sadler William Sadler Yeah Heywood And then that guy was the quiet guy Yeah Morgan Freeman There was one more

too And then I guess the Well there's the guy from the Sopranos Who marries Janice Isn't he in that crew Yes Yeah Richie Appreel

Yeah It's a great crew Yeah Dion Waiters Award Steve Park Who do you have Steve Park Steve Park

Steve Park Is Mike Yanagita I could offer You Shep Proud At Steve Park is maybe one of the great deons of the history of his pie. The guy who wanted to pay 195 for his vehicle with no true code. Very funny.

Very good. Fucking liar. I could offer you Jose Feliciano. Got no complaints. And I could offer you the two escorts who made the point that he was funny looking, not circumcised. I love all the offerings. Chris, you just brought me there.

I have Yanigida on my waiters Rushmore. I have Drexel and True Romance. I've got Walking and Pulp Fiction. I've got Mike Yanigita and I've got the goat multiple migs like those are my four all-time Deon Waiters he's in the George Washington state

of Rushmore multiple migs two lines of dialogue and eternal impression but Yankeeda is on that with mex I would only add John Marley is Jack Wolts

and Godfather Oh yeah we've had so many good Dian's I'd let's see the complete list That sounds like a five marks That's a great list It sounds like a bracket too Like it's turning time.

They did, Roger Ebert did a special episode of their show with Scorsese and when it went to 2000, where they list their top 10 movies in the 90s. Scorsese comes on and he says he's got Fargo number four. One of the first things he says in his commentary about this movie that won all these awards is, and there's this amazing scene with this Asian American actor

who's giving all his emotions out and it's just a beautiful scene. Like he fucking loved the Yanagita scene in Scorsese. It was like his favorite scene in the movie. Yeah. It's so, so, so. Who do we have for pulp for Deanne? Was it The Wolf? Or walking.

Or walking? This watch up your ass. I think it was walking. Yes. Yeah. Do you know that the guy, Stephen Park, I know everything about this scene. He's talked about this scene. And when he performed it, Mike Yanigida, the Coens came up to him afterwards.

And they're like, so fucking funny. Hilarious. And he was like really hurt. Because he's like, what he mean? Like, I thought it was, I was like pouring my heart out. It's funny. Like, they're laughing. He thought it was like a straight, dramatic scene.

Oh, interesting. Yeah. The fact that he goes same side of the booth and just takes that and takes that risk. He's like, I didn't want to cream my neck. I know. We've never done a pod. Can you imagine five minutes and I'm just coming over here? Chris, do you mind if I sit over here and you're like, no, I'd like you over there.

I can see you better. I'm just going to sit like this. I'll do Yanigita for the rest of this pod. Because if she was all right with him sitting there, they're 15. He's going in for the kiss. Yeah. I have a take on that that like Yanigati has a. room. And he's got there early.

He's got a room with the Radisson. It's not just the lunch at the Radisson. No, no, no. He's suited up. He's got like a scotch. This is everything. Hold on. In Yanagate's defense. Go on. She suggests the Radisson. It's a fucking hotel. Do you think he knows, the radisson? Do you think when he's watching her on TV,

do the press conference or get interviewed about this case that he can see that she's pregnant? Or does she have a big coat on? I don't think he can see. He's like pregnant fetish? No, I just think it's like, I wonder if when she walks in She's clearly pregnant. She's clearly pregnant. Women on top and pregnant.

Third trimester, too. Wood chipper. I think he's probably crestfallen. Yeah, I think so too. I think when she orders the Diet Coke, he's like shit. Yeah. Recast the couch director of city. She wants her to get like a Long Island.

Yeah. You know? I wonder, I would hope if she would not leave that drink on attended either. Like, I think everything's on the table. Oh, God. It's not good. Not good. Recast the couch director city.

You can't. to a different city. Can we test drive Robert Duval as the father-in-law? Yeah, that's powerhouse. Give it a test drive

just because he passed away recently. Yes. I was taking a little more firepower for that character. Does that do anything for this? He's going to McDonald's. It didn't finish.

Yeah, he'd be fantastic. The thing I like about it is like, these guys pick this dude out of relative obscurity, has an action from 20 years. It looks like the role of his lifetime, the role he's meant to do.

And he does the exact, the exact thing they need him to do. And sometimes it's like... I know. It's like a 70s detective show for us. And it's like, well, what if Brando then ruins the movie, you know? He shows up too and in face off right after this. Like he got hot.

He's in face off too. Like directors were picking him. They liked them. Have Fass earned research. Stormair has 18 lines of dialogue. Great. Never says more than one sentence at a time. I think most of it is in the pancake conversation.

You know what it makes me think of? Our guy right here. Very few lines of dialogue. Machine-like killer. It's post of the sun. Look at that guy. In his book, Stand for Something,

The Battle for America's Soul, Ohio Governor John Kasich spends three pages describing his hatred for this film. Yeah. Okay. What's his substance? That's all I didn't.

I think he probably hates its depiction of a smaller town in America. The Paul Bunyan statue was built for the film and dismantled. Wade's car dealership was filmed in Richfield, Minnesota. Now occupied by a Best Buy. Okay.

There's still a Best Buy. King of Clubs was in Northeast Minneapolis, demolished in 03, replaced by a low-income housing. Before BS came in with a tidy little investment. Joel Cohen had McDormon and John Carroll Lynch conceive a backstory for their characters to get the feel of the characters. And they decided Norman Marge met working on the police force.

When they married, they had to choose which one quit. Norm quit and took up painter. Because Norm doesn't work, right? He's a painter. He painted the three-cent stance. I see that they work that they went to high school together because Yadigita is like, oh, you remember her, she was here behind us. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he was hilarious in high school.

Yeah. The trademarked Minnesota, yeah, appears 179 times in the script. Great. That's all I got. Apex Mountain. Well, for Apex Mountain, certainly Swedish meatballs. because when you think about what IKEA was doing with their amazing cafe

when you would go against the furniture that you would then get divorced while you put it together. Yeah. And then also this movie, I don't really know when Swedish meatballs have peaked again. I would also say GMAC financing plans. Sure.

Riley Giffenbach? Yeah, just and then True Coat Sealing. Would you say Colin Brothers? No. I'd say no country is going to brother. I would say that as well. Macy, it's not yet, but maybe after boogie nights, we're getting there. Getting in the vicinity.

Some would argue the cooler when he actually led a movie that had a lot of people. Yeah. Shameless, right? The show, like that show, Shameless. He was on for years. I like Amy Rossum. I never watched it, but I know people like it. Minnesota, probably the World Series in 88 or 87, Kirby Pucket.

Oh, fuck yeah. Or 91. One of those two worlds series. Ken Herbeck, Greg Gagne. The 98 Vikings and Mossos was rookie year and Randall Cunningham. they went to a title game. They were unbelievable. KG winning that first round series

against games. Oh, yeah. Windshields, scraper scenes. Yeah. Bushemi? Well, he wins a Golden Globe for that boardwalk empire. This is my favorite role of his.

Yeah, I think there's been bigger moments. I think Con Air is probably like his apex. He got that right after this. He starts being a movie star. He starts doing all the Sandler movies. It's funny. I would probably, I'd probably say, I'm not right, but I'd probably say Sopranos because he was also directing.

Yeah. And when he was in Sopranos, it was just such a big deal. Yeah. It's like, oh my God, they got Bouchemmy for him. I know. I know. He's going to play Tony's cousin. And he was a maniac.

You can't believe they're doing this. And the way his story ended on the porch is, that's so good. McDormon, no. But I don't know what it is. I think her career was intentionally designed not to have an apex. Three billboards was like the most attention I think she got. The Blue Ox. Probably the most fun of them.

As a bar. Yeah. Yeah. They're having a hell of a time. Shovel murders? Better shovel murder for you. We dance close with some shovel murders in Home Alone. That's the thing.

It's implied. Yeah. The street slayer. No shovel? Yeah. I remember in Halloween, there was a good through the face shovel murder, but this was pretty good. Fargo.

Fargo. The town. It could have been named Brainerd. I mean, most of the action, the movie takes place. Yeah, so they talked about that and said they just, they just like the name Fargo. This is the best thing about them is that people will spend decades

kind of like unpacking their movies and they're like, kidnapping's just cool. Yeah, we're just like making movies. Why didn't you name of Brainerd? Sounds stupid enough. Fargo sounds much cooler.

Storm air, I'm still going, Dino Velvet. Yeah, I don't care how good he was. I think Armageddon, but yeah, six months after this movie came out,

he was in a jungle with Steven Spielberg shooting the Lost World. Like, he had a fucking ascension. Late 90s was a good run for him. Oh my God, he was everywhere.

Dangling cigarette smoking? There's a scene where Ray Stance and Ghostbusters has one dragon on his lip for like 10 seconds as he's looking at slimer. It's iconic. He lets this thing hang and he's like, I don't know how they did it, but it's really, you know what I'm talking about?

It's really funny. Minnesota accents? Yeah. Yeah. All right, here's my favorite one. In movie, disfiguring facial wounds, Mount Rushmore. I have one battle.

Yeah. Freeway with Kiefer Sutherland. Okay Reith Witherspoon shoots him in the face And then he's sort of Rherer or this Fargo What's the fourth one?

It's definitely Aaron Eckhart In Dark Night There we go Two face Burns half of his face Off and gasoline Even gets shot though No I'm sorry

I just mean face injury Well I think we can sneak that in then Gus Fring has the same thing At the end of breaking bad Like half of his face Is melted off just like that That's true That's good

Cruiser Hanks It's because he thinks This is a perfect movie And Hank's could have played how many characters he could have played Jerry for sure

he could play the older Hanks could have played the dad yeah Wade yeah I mean he could play he could play the guy shoveling snow in his driveway he was like

calling you a judge yeah honestly he would have been a really interesting storm air he never really went we never got dark hanks

not this dark no yeah it would have been disorienting to watch him play somebody that evil this the

bro to perdition He's a killer with a Tommy gun and get some gun fights and stuff like that, but not like this. I have, I have Cruz written down as Stormer just because I want to see you guys talk about his smoking. Yeah, like Vincent from Collateral. The smoking. I just want to see you guys break down the crew smoking.

I can see Cruz doing Carl more than Stormer. Like, Oh, really? Yeah, Cruz just being like you're fucking imbecile. I was like doing cocktail cruise. Yeah. Yeah. Scorsese or Spielberg, clearly Scorsesee.

We did Best Tang, Worstang. The two criminals. Carl Gera is what I got. Does Sarah Connor award for Wood Modern Technology Ruin this movie? Yes. Ring cameras, cell phone, pings, and texting. I think we catch these guys in five minutes.

Yeah, you can't take a license plate off of a parking garage car. You're just there everywhere. You're on five cameras. Kind of wild that when she gets out to the scene of the state trooper being, having been shy. It's just two cops like, you'd think there would be like the FBI would be there. Like there would be like 30 cops out there. And there's just the two of them. I asked Lou, where is everybody?

He's like, well, it's cold, Margie. That's the explanation. It's cool. That's right. There's like no one wanted to come out. Pickin' Nets. We mentioned the title. I have a couple good ones, but what did you guys have?

I'll rattle some. First of all, the Lundeguards would definitely have a dog, which I think would be a fun part of the home invasion. The fact that Scotty does not have a Kirby Pucket poster in his room is ridiculous in 1987. He doesn't like sports. He likes hockey. Most importantly, though. Oh, true.

He would have a North Star's poster. Post or something. North Star something. Most important picking it. I know it's a funny line. It makes for a good dialogue. There's no fucking way Carl is uncircumcised.

This is a white guy from the Midwest. Hello. There's no fucking way. I know it's funny. Now, if you want to talk about Stormair, the Swedish guy, then we can talk.

Carl is, she says, I get it's funny. There's no fucking way he's uncircumcised. That's a great one. Oh my God. How do you see our month?

Why does Carl not take off? Why does he go back for Gare and go back to like, hey, I got, I got some money. It's a man of honor. Maybe he's worried he'll come after him. Maybe. He gives him the $40,000. He's like, I got a million. I'll just go this right, close the end.

I'm out of here. But yeah, I mean, in retrospect. Why did he bury the money? Because you don't want to show up to the house with it in the car. Yeah, because then he can always use that as like if he needs to. Well, why wouldn't he bury it closer to the house? I know. Because half of his face is hanging off.

Yeah, I guess he's. All right. So I have two. I have the father-in-law never connecting the dots. He seemed like a smart guy, good businessman. Yeah. Jerry needs, he wants the money himself for the kidnapping 750. That's a good one, Bill.

Then the kidnappers want a million. It's like right in the vicinity. I just sort of been like, unanswerable question is what's, what's Jerry gotten himself into? Is he? They don't want you to know. It's like a suitcase. He's taking out loans on cars that don't exist.

Yeah. Is it to pay for something else or is it to pay for that parking lot? They don't want us to know. Yeah. Or is it just to get rich? They said that they, Cohen's literally said we don't, we didn't want people to think about it.

They did the, the Pulp Fiction's Supercase moves. The GMAC thing when he's just like, yeah, so I'm going to need those VIN numbers. He's like, okay. I'll fax it over.

Yeah, I'm going to have my girl send him right over. Think about his master plan is just, just write them hard to read and pencil and fax it. And that's like, that's the perfect crime.

But the GMAC said him $300,000. They were like, okay, here you go, my patience is at an end. I was thinking, what's the most realistic, funny reason that he's down $300,000 or whatever be like him gambling on go for soccer.

He got socks in the 86 World Series. His gambling drugs is sex. Playoffs 93. You got to be thinking differently about him now that I know Jerry Lundegart has a playboy hanging right there in his bathroom. He might be some sort of pervert. It kind of takes a long look at the hostess at the diner, you know?

That's a very weighted moment. Yeah. He kind of looks just, how are you doing? Yeah. Like he full up does how you doing to her. It's a good call, Chris. There might be something there with him. I think the father-in-law would have figured that out.

Second thing, why are the criminals in the car for this long? It did some Googling. It's not that far. Fargo to Minnesota, four hours. Brainer to Minnesota, two hours. Brainer to Fargo, three hours. Minneapolis? Why do we have to stay overnight, Minneapolis?

Why do we have to stay overnight anywhere? It's a four-hour drive. I'm driving due to three. I think of a hotel and sleep in the same double beds. You're going to do it in three despite the fact. it's complete white out blizzard conditions. I have to do pancakes twice with Stormor and then share double-bed hookers with them. I want to get to my location and get away from this guy.

They make it seem like they're driving from, like, New York. I can't imagine anybody more miserable in this circumstances than you. Oh, my God. The smoking in the car of the windows is that personal assault. Oh, my God. Honestly, it's, they say that's a cancer agent. Carcinogen, whatever, yeah, yeah. It's a sociopath behavior.

Yeah. Okay, sequel prequel prestige TV, all podcast, Untouchable. Obviously, prestige TV, because we had it. Yep. And I didn't see the first season of Fargo. I never watched the Fargo TV series, which is a whole.

Maybe I should. But the first season picks up with what happened to the money, right? Yes. They talk about the case that's buried? The case is buried. It goes back, and I think one of the characters is Marge's... I think Ted Dansen plays Marge's father or grandfather.

I can't remember. It's been a while since I've seen it. Bilbo's in it, right? He's the guy who plays Bilbo and the Hobbit. Elijah Wood? No, that's Frodo. Oh, uh, Bilbo. Yeah.

What's the guy? He's a super famous actor. I thought it was the lead in... Kyle, you're in the wrong room right now. Ian Holm? Yeah. No, not Ian Holm. In the new movie, in the Hobbit movies.

What's that guy's name? Oh, Martin Freeman. Yeah, Martin Freeman. Yeah, I can't remember. This is the thing is I just haven't seen the Fargo since they came out. I haven't seen shit either. You guys might be talking another language right now. Billbo?

No? Hobbit shit. When's the fellowship pot? It would see Arm up. If you could do Star Wars, you could do fellowship. Never? It would be funny to do Hobbit in this room and you just aren't there. We just have like a cut out of you. Like right there. I'm in one of those cages like shot caller at the end of shot caller.

Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Flores, Zane Lowe or somebody else? Kyle, you want to go first? I go first. All right. So it's March. I'm going to have to really work up for this. I just feel like at that Radisson, I think Gus is there. Mike Yanikita, young fella, ha ha!

Suit it up at the Radisson. Linda Cuxey, suck it. Same side of the boot! Rejected! My voice isn't right. right now. Holy shit. It's March.

Let's go. Mike Yanigita would be the best name Gus has never said. Yonahita! Mike Yankeena! He would love Yonahita. He would love that one. There's a guy on Arkansas now

Darius Aikoff. Oh, yeah. It's just waiting for Gus. You're really having a college football basketball reticons? I'm into this draft. Yeah, I've been watching. I watch.

Yeah, I've been watching some. Holy shit, Gus. I was going to do Zane, but like, it feels like, No, no. People want it saying, Maj. I just want to say right out front, right out in the open, you're on an incredible journey in law enforcement, but you're also on an incredible journey of motherhood.

And tell me about that. Tell me about your journey, because we're all watching, we're all waiting, just like you. Chris, what you do it, you do, you do this thing? That's, like, that's perfect. I've been watching a lot of tape. I'm going to improve over the course of CR month, I think. I hope that's not to the detriment of Frenchie appearances,

Because I'm such a fan. I even living it into the last spot. The police women. And the mother. I do think Carl Schillalter would also make an incredible first take guest just because he's like, I'm not going to debate you. I'm not going to debate you, Stephen. No, that's great.

That's great. Carl Scho Walter, what do you think about Anthony Richardson going to a new team? I'm not going to debate you. I'm not here to debate. Carl, is Sam Donald now an elite quarterback in the league? Carl, the ninth person I first take that to sell any of Shrach's jokes. Oh, God. I'm selling them at home.

I'm laughing at home. A couple people are on there, so only a couple. Just one Oscar who gets it. I mean, McDormand won the Oscar. I would say Macy, Bishemi, or Francis, or the Coens, or Deacons is like a legit. And the Oscar goes to Stephen Park as Mike Danica. Zayla, St. Marge. March.

March. March up here. So what's going on with you, Madge? You're doing law enforcement. You're doing the motherhood thing. Norm's painting. What? Keep us all up.

Where have you been, man? Marge, you eat lunch. You eat so many calories. He'll do like a 55 second long question. And then Tame and Paul will be like, yes. It's so good, man. Probably in answerable questions. Why was Marge pregnant?

Is the question my son asked? But I think, oh, that was one of his questions. Why did they make her pregnant for the movie? Was there a purpose band? I think she's the... I think it's just to make it a cradle of new life in a world that's got so much death, yeah. We talked about what kind of money trouble was Jerry Ann.

Could you really dispose of bodies with a wood chipper? I think so. That's how good a woodchipper is? You got a high-grade wood shipper and you're strong men. You know, it's pre-nafta machinery. They really just branded it out. Because he probably was going to put Mrs. London guard in their necks. He was like a

piece of timber in there. They should be able to put our human body. It's a lot of DNA evidence though on the kid shut out. It doesn't make sense. Those guys are spoogeing all over motel rooms across. That's true. They're like when Michael Douglas comes in and does the black light and it's like this guy. Jesus Christ. Do you have

any answer to us? If they put the tags on the license plate, did they get away with it? Like, that unravels everything. Which is, by the way, Carl is so stupid. Like you have to put the fucking tags on there. That means there's no murders in Brainerd. They get to the house. It probably goes sideways because Wade's still going to show up for the drop off. But Carl's not going to be pissed and having killed people. If they put the tags on, does it work? It's a great point. But the fact that he doesn't, because he's like, fuck them. I don't put my tags on is exactly why he's a criminal.

And it's like the same reason why it's like, if those guys don't need to get laid basically every night, they're fine. Like nobody's seen them. Nobody knows who they are. It's the, they find them through the escort. It would seem like the number one thing you're doing as a criminal is you're going at some parking garage at three in the morning and taking off somebody's license plate. Which is what Carl does eventually, but just too late. But that's like, that should be one of the first five things. Like get a gun, steal a license plate, leave myself on and home so I can't. Don't have a lot of violently tinged conversations with people in random bars.

Right. You know, that are very memorable. Don't tell two escorts exactly what my plans are for the next five days. It includes a kidnapping. And do it for more than $20,000. Like, that's what they were originally paid. 20 grand each for the whole abduction and everything. It's pretty bad.

That was another answer to all I had is what was Stormer's... What was he doing two weeks before this? Smoking. Bouncer at a bar? No. Like part-time driving a snowplow? I think he's been in that state. The, like, three packs a day, eight beers

a night, probably a girl at the end of it for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously not a great guy because Shep knew him from probably from prison. So maybe he got out of prison. This name is very interesting. Shep vouches for Gare.

Knows Carl, but doesn't vouch for him. I don't understand what their relationship is Carl and Shep. I think it's just doing prison time with each other. Yeah. I thought Shep didn't know Carl was. I thought he's like, don't know that guy. Don't vouch for him.

Well, he's lying because the second. Oh, right. Carl's in his house. He says, Chef, what are you doing? I was banging that girl. And they're at his house. Maybe he's just being honest.

I don't vouch for him. Yeah. He doesn't like him. I think it's because Shep and Grimsor, they're one of a kind. They don't fucking talk. Like, they're very violent, whereas Carl never shuts the fuck off.

And I think that's the worst thing you can do as a criminal is keep talking. One of the things I always learned from these crime movies is you're just more likely to commit more crimes after you get out of prison with people you serve time with. So really the move is to when you get out of prison, cut all the ties with the people you're in prison with because that's where they're going to look immediately to see if, oh, was he in that wherever? I just think that that's a level of sophisticated planning

that would rob us of so many good crime movies. Also, when you're in prison, like, just don't ever call anybody slick. That's right. Yeah, any sort of nickname. Don't really have any traits that people can point to. Say what, say what, slick. Yeah. Changes the whole movie.

What piece of memorabilia would you want or not want from this movie? I just want to say I really like the cop jackets Oh yeah With the with the fur hoods Yeah I think if you got like a game used What was her

Her thumb partner's name? Lou Lou yeah Game used Lou hat Game used Lou like You could do some like walking talks around L.A. Yeah And when it gets cold I would also offer a Gustafson

Motors sign Yes Like just have that right over there Gus and Motors here would be really cool Yeah gusts and motors I was really charged during the Ace Ventura pod, listening to Craig Horbeck's naivete

about isotone or gloves and Dan Marino. He couldn't wrap his mind around just leisure gloves because it's a really weird concept. Carl has driving gloves for the entire movie. It's so good. With the open knuckles and everything. I think I'm ready to enter a driving glove phase my life. Driving slippers as well.

That would be great. Driving slippers. I want Carl's gloves and I'd like to just drive to like baseball practice. What are the driving, as you know, I love to drive? What are the driving gloves? Is it better grip? Like, what am I getting out of that? I think it's less pressure on your hands.

So it's like, I think it goes back to when there wasn't power steering. And you had to really twist the wheel. I think it's that old school. And now I just think it's stylish. Guys who were just like, I got to drive six hours. My hands are going to get callous. Coach Finstock, Mr. Miyagi, were best, worst life lesson.

There's more to life than a little money, you know? Don't you know that? Yeah. That's got to be the life lesson. I had a Mr. Miyagi worst life advice. The kids like to say this. Yeah. Worst.

The kids like to say, oh, shoot your shot. Like, Mike Yiannegita, don't shoot that shot. Yeah. Sometimes you don't shoot your shot. Take the social cues, Mike. Yeah. Don't, he even said. I mean, he was deranged.

I know. Linda Cooksey. He was bothering her for a long time. Booth move was fast, but I might have waited. It was funny minutes. Yeah. We don't know how long Mike's been sitting there drinking Doers, though. Like maybe he's got a lot of liquid confidence.

It looks like a doer's. Yeah. I saw that. Doers feels like a lunchtime at the Radis. It's the same color of Dewers. That's stuff. I wrote down Doors. That's so funny, Chris.

Again, to defend Mike, I think when she picks the place and it's a hotel, I think you're ready to roll. She answered the phone in 1045. Yeah. She's excited as hell about it. She's dressed up. Another city with the husband at home. She even says, we've been married a long time in the scene. She's just a little excited.

She wasn't going to do anything, but a little walk in the wild side. Yeah. Best double feature choice? No country. Eight millimeter. Double. I want more storm there. I want more storm air.

I got it written down. Eight millimeter. One of the most intense theater experiences I've ever had. Terrified in that movie when he's walking through machine's house. The three millimeter with Kyle? I didn't realize you liked the movie this much. Oh, dude, yeah. We'd have to have Van in it, too.

We're going to be going to be able to do four person rewatchables again soon. We'll never pot of the new studio. Men's recovery project of guys talking about eight millimeter again. I got to go back and listen to the first millimeter pot again. You're going to see things. You won't be able to unsee. when he's just looking through his fingers at that shit

and it's just rolling it on him. I love that movie. Hardcore is on 2B, by the way. What's your double feature? I have a triple. Oh, great. My God. Raising Arizona, Fargo, no country.

There you go. Every 10 years. Checking with the Coins. Yeah. The Killers. I think they won the movie too. I have them for who won the movie. It's a completely original

depiction of the world. You know what I wrote down? I wrote down in Minnesota. Oh. Where you go, Kyle? Pre Randy Moss, pre Joe Mauer, pre-Jessie Ventura.

Marge Gunderson was like the face of Minnesota early KG. KG's on the team, but they don't know it's going to be KG. Yeah. Rookie year. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like Minnesotans might have a love, hate with this movie, because maybe it makes fun of them. I think this movie had like the only dip in its popularity. It was like any kind of feeling that it was mocking the people that we got.

And this is a criticism to Cotens get sometimes where it's like, oh, they're making fun of the people that they're depicting. But I don't think that's truth. I just think that they see humor in it, you know? It's really fun. We're going to throw to Craig who's not here, but he's going to, because he's at Indianapolis for the combo. Oh, got to be there. He's at St. Elmo's watching the Pats Beat Reporter eat shrimp. But Craig's going to weigh in with his take right here.

All right, fellas, what's up? I am in Indianapolis right now. Not really, but at the time of this taping, I was. So I'm going to respond here in my own little solo video. And I got to say, guys, I know you're not here right now. so you can't respond to me. But guys, screenwriting's dead, because what the Coen brothers are able to do

with all of their movies, you almost forget how it used to be and how tight things used to be. I looked it up. The Coen brothers have made one movie that came out in theaters that was over two hours long, and it was no country for old men,

was two hours and two minutes. Outside of that, you look at the 80s, the 90s, and the 2000s, Raising Arizona, Blood Simple, Fargo, burn after reading, true grit, serious man. all under an hour and 50 minutes. So yeah, I made you realize screenwriting is dead.

This is a 98-minute movie, and it has everything you need. The length makes you want to re-watch it. The scenes are tight. They do exactly what they need to do, and they get out, and yet it doesn't feel rushed. It never feels rushed. So I love Fargo. I love the Cohen brothers.

I was a film major in college, and I always felt like the Cohen brothers were making movies for young people who love movies, and they felt like film major movies. not in a stuffy way, but in an attainable way. Like, everything they do feels real and kind of handpicked, and, like, you can recreate it. And, like, it makes you want to go out and do your own stuff.

So I've always loved the Cohen Brothers. Their movies are always slightly off balance. You kind of always watch with your head tilted a little bit. And they're really funny. Dark, twisted, funny all the time, all of their movies. Also, one of my favorite things about Cohen Brothers movies in general, and specifically with Fargo, is the casting. Everybody in this movie looks like a real human being. Bill Macy, Bishemi,

Francis McDormand, all the way down. John Carroll Lynch, who's been in like four of the last five-year-watchables we've done, Peter Storm Hill, and keep going all the way through. They all looking real people. And I just think that makes such a difference. And it's a little different now the way that things are casted and half of the side characters we have now have like, need to have 500,000 Instagram or TikTok followers to be cast in a movie so that you can market a little bit more. But they all feel like real people. And the person now who I think is doing that similarly is Tim Robinson, who when you watch a show like The Chair Company or his movie friendship or things like that, everyone in those movies feels real. And it's fascinating. And to me,

it just makes you more invested in the story. So I love the Corn Brothers. I love Fargo. I think the scene where both of the guys are having sex in the motel next to one another, followed by the four of them watching The Tonight Show is one of the funniest scenes in movie history. So that is my review, 5 out of 5 on Letterboxed. Thanks, guys. All right, thanks, Craig. I can't believe Craig has a thing for pregnant women. That's so funny.

I respect it, buddy. Respect it. Really. Hardcore. Send it out to Indianapolis and see what happens. That's it. Well, we did it. CR Month, we have two in the books.

How you feel, Chris? We have three movies left. So far, so good. Yeah. You know, it's a lot of pressure. Are the three movies mapped out? We have a couple mapped out. We have three mapped out.

We know we're ending the month with LA Confidential. Yes. And there's two more that we don't know. We're negotiating with each other. You got Bud White. Well, it's your call. I know. Yeah, we even like dived out of Netflix.

We dive out of Netflix for this. Yeah. So we'll see. Find it on the other platforms. I like confidential ends the month. How about I give you your balls back, you Wapcock sucker? I fucking love Bud White. I'll be listening, folks.

moving off the stage today. No, that was watching Gus and Zane back to back. It was just an honor to be here. Gus is so good. I felt like I was at a buffet with Swedish meatballs and chicken friccasse. Thanks to go how, Eduardo, as well. And CR month will be back next week with a movie we've talked about. I think it's the movie we just say what we're going to do next week.

What are we doing next week? Well, we were talking about a certain movie that we'd been talking about for a long time that recently became available. of the cruisers. Oh, shit. That's been years. I've just, we got to do it. Words of music, CR. All right. Thanks, Kyle. Great to see you. Thanks, C.R. Great to be here, Bill.