The Rewatchables - ‘Ghostbusters’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

This pod is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan each carry an unlicensed nuclear accelerator as they rewatch the 1984 comedy classic ‘Ghostbusters’ starring Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis, and Sigourney Weaver. Directed by Ivan Reitman. Producers: Craig Horlbeck, Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Matt Pevic Get more value with the McValue menu at McDonald’s https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/download-app.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and should not be used as a substitute for professional medical advice. All right, guys, four wisecracking New Yorkers against a marshmallow apocalypse is the actual sentence in the description for this movie. I think on Netflix or somewhere, the eight biggest 80s movies, just biggest. Let's hear it. Just by year. I'm not ranking Empire, Raiders, E.T., Jedi, Beverly's Cop, Ghostbusters, Back to the Future, and Batman. Those are the eight biggest movies by how much money they made, what they meant to pop culture, just how huge they were. This is you ranking them, or did you get this as a metric? I'm not ranking. I'm just putting that in order from 1980 to 88. I think those are the eight.

And I thought Top Gun would be in there, but it just didn't make as much money. These movies made huge money. They changed the lives of the people that were in them. They infiltrated pop. pop culture for months and months. And I think that's the list. So why this movie's here? I mean, for seven-year-old me, this was the most important thing in the world. Like 84, I don't even think I had a relationship to Saturday Night Live,

but this is the perfect mixture of childlike wonder with, like, adult humor. And so you're watching this movie and you get, when you're a kid, you get like 25%, 50% of the jokes maybe. Yeah. But there's just something about Murray and the tone that you're, you're like, I'm mesmerized by this, as well as the ghosts and the marshmallow man and everything else. So this was to me, I mean, this is like a story about monoculture.

This is a story about like, I don't know anybody that doesn't like Ghostbusters. I don't know anybody who doesn't like Madonna, Prince, and Bruce Springsteen either. It's like 84, we just made stuff that like everybody was kind of like, yeah, it's pretty good or great or I love it or I'm obsessed with it. Yeah, it was funny rewatching it. It's just like putting on like an old comfy sweatshirt that you've had forever. You're like, oh, I love when I put this on. It just feels so good.

Yeah. I just love this. That's what it's been for 42 years. You know, I was watching a movie in about 20 minutes into it. Like, I started to feel so good about the experience that I was having that I tried to, like, sit up for a second, take a step back and go, why is this happening? Like, why does this movie still work like this on me? And I don't know. I wish I could have come up with an answer.

Bill Murray makes me feel at home. Dan Ackroyd and Bill Murray together. magic, ghosts in New York. The way I view and think of New York, a lot of it, oriented and created by this movie. Like, I can't explain why it's still so perfect for me, but it did not lose one step.

You were a little bit older when it came out. So was there any cynicism about it for you, or is there, what's your relationship for it? No, it was the opposite. I was thinking back to 84. We had no MCU, really. We had a couple of Superman films. No MCU, really.

There was no MCU. Doesn't exist. Well, we, DC Comics, not really. They were all either on TV or comic books. It's pretty bad, man. We haven't, yeah. There was Flash Gordon. For alien movies, we had, like, E.T.

But at that point, Murray and Aykroyd are comedy royalty from S&L from the first five years of the show. You have that. Everyone kind of knew this was a Belushi movie, and then he died. Yeah. So that, that kind of put that. kind of put that on the radar a little bit. And then they really, really promote it in the perfect way. Because they put out that no ghost thing.

That was out like... Iron Fraser No Ghost? Well, it's simple. You didn't even know what it was. With the slash through. They did like almost like viral marketing. And then they had the MTV, the Ray Parker song. And they had a great video.

Great video. And it was on for that whole summer. But this was summer of 84, which was the Olympics in L.A. It was the height of Michael Jackson and Springsteen and all these different things. Michael Jordan's about to be in the NBA. And just pop culture was ready for this. So it was this in Beverly Hills Cop both in the same year, combined with a million other things.

And reading about the movie and the way it was released and the way it was marketed was huge summer movie that then became what everybody dressed as for Halloween and then became a huge Christmas movie because people were giving each other toys, Ghostbusters toys for Christmas. So it essentially stretched through three quarters of 84 of people routinely going.

And you think about, like, Project Hail Mary will probably make more money, I think, than Oppenheimer they're projecting now. Yeah. Oh, my God. But Project Hail Mary is, like, kind of already out of the consciousness. Like, I mean, people are going to see it,

people dig it, and, you know, like, my wife only just saw it. But it's not like, I don't think people are going to be dressed as Brian Gosling from Project Hail Mary for Halloween. I think you'll probably see more Ghostbusters than you will that. It was also just a really,

great idea for a movie. Everything is novel. It combined comedy, ghosts, but not scary ghosts, but kind of scary. It's fun, and it's New York City. It just worked. Everything is novel in the movie.

Like, everything is something that we kind of hadn't seen before. Yeah. We hadn't really seen the proton packs. We hadn't seen... We hadn't seen paranormal guys fighting ghosts in this way with a hotline.

Everything is brand new, which is a problem that we run into now is we compare movies in the A-C-E- that we're living in right now to movies of the past. And we just forget that, like, we've seen a lot of shit. Like, we've seen a lot of stuff. Yeah.

The reason why sinners worked so well for a lot of people is because that was kind of, not in plot, obviously the plot was a little derivative, but there was kind of some shit that we hadn't quite seen before. You talk about original IP movies. Original IP movies, but even beyond that, forget about that. I'm talking about, like, this movie,

we're talking about, like, Gozer and, like, Zool and these ancient demons that they're, fighting, ghosts taking over New York. They're doing all of this, but to your point, they're not doing it like seriously. They're never, they're scared, but they're wise cracking their way through it. They fall into a sinkhole

and you don't feel like they're any chance they died. But it's like, oh yeah, they'll get up. This movie, I mean, I have this for later and stuff, but like we should talk about now, like the way that they tell this story is completely different than the way they would do it in 2026. And it was completely different than the way that the sequels

kind of worked out where they're spending way too much time explaining the sort of paranormal mechanics of a lot of the stuff or the history or the cult history of the occult history of the stuff. This is just kind of like yeah it goes to the Gozerian, the traveler,

the key master, the gatekeeper. Yeah, they can't meet. Something bad will happen. Even the way they talk about crossing the streams, they're just like, it would be very bad. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's no five minute explanation.

We're going to get to this, like, they do all of this stuff. Do you know how many questions the audience would have now? They build the containment center, and we talk about that later. It's like they say it's a nuclear reactor. In the middle of what essentially is like Tribeca or something like. It's like to all of this stuff, what the movie does is it puts a lot of faith in its performers. Yeah. They explain the bigger stuff and they leave the smaller stuff.

They just let it linger. Yeah. It was fun reliving it through my kids when they got to the right age to watch this, which is probably like six or seven. It's not like that scary. There's no sex stuff. scary in the right ways. You're not going to have nightmares a night. It's funny. It's not like subversive, sexual

humor funny. Yeah, barely any sex except for the... It's not even like a lot of like great jokes. It's just more the people seem really funny. Well, there's not a lot of gags. Yeah, there's not a lot of one-liners and gags. Well, I would just... Well, there's a lot of one-liners that come out of the movie. But they're not like

well-written gag, gag, gag. No, it's like Murray commenting on the absurdity of being Ghostbusters throughout the movie. Yep. once again, we got to a place in comedies where comedies had to be really high premise. They had to be really high premise

and you have to keep coming back to that premise over and over again. 40-year-old guy never had sex. The jokes just write themselves. Every other scene you can have a joke. Yeah. We were in an era at that particular point to where the comedic talent

was so overwhelming if you're talking about Bill Murray or Eddie Murphy, where you could take one of those guys and put them in a situation and they would funny your scene. They would funny the scene. That's basically what Ackroyd said.

He's like, we just needed to put him in the place to succeed. This was the best comedy leading man in the world. Yeah. Acroyd was really good as the sidekick. probably trading places was the closest where he came to being the co-lead like that. Andy. Yeah. And they're going back and forth.

He always needed like a foil. And then when he hits the 90s, he becomes more of like the Tommy Boy type. Like he pops into movies. What's your relationship with this movie, Craig? I mean, obviously something that everyone knows and everyone loves and every kid loves. I saw it when I was really young. I have not seen it since. But yeah, it's just like one of those cultural staples that has always been around.

But you didn't find it to be like a kids movie when you were watching it, like just this time. No, definitely not. I think that's the difference with a lot of. comedies back then is it used to be for everyone. And now it's like, is it a kid's movie or is it not? Yeah. Because a lot of the jokes I would not have gotten when I was eight years old. No.

Like most of them almost. The funniest thing, like the things that make me laugh now are so different than what made me laugh at the 7th. Did you guys ever watch movies like this with your parents? Sure. So that is something that all, that's an interesting experience because now parents, I'm not a parent, but the sense that I get is that parents don't watch more adult-oriented comedies with their kids as much they used to. I don't know that that's, but when I would watch Ghostbusters, my dad would laugh at the scene when she's possessed. Yeah. He would laugh at that scene because that's a scene that a older slightly nasty.

It's a sexual innuendo. It's a sexual innuendo. He would be like, look, she said, she said, get inside me, he's not going to do it because she got a demon. He can't do it. She got a demon in her. And so, like, the whole, that is how I learned that I was supposed to find that funny. Right. Like, I knew that, like, there was a joke being made there.

that I didn't get. And I watched it. I understood it by watching adults react to it. I remember my parents cracking up at the scene with the mayor. And not just because of dogs and cats living together, but just because of like Ed Koch stand-in negotiating with the Ghostbusters and the, you know, the Cardinal Archbishops there and the Chief of Police. And they were cracking up at this guy letting the Ghostbusters do whatever they wanted

because of Bankman pointing out, you'll have saved the lives of millions of registered voters. And they were like, hysterical about it. I was like, I don't get it. It seems like the Ghostbusters made a compelling argument. Do you think Dan Aykroyd and Bill Murray and Ramos would have said that we are making a kids movie

as they were writing the film? I would say no. They were trying to make a huge comedy. Because it used to be you would make a comedy for adults, but you would have elements in it that kids would like. And now it's you make a comedy for kids and you have elements in it that adults will like. Adults can stomach.

Like Zootopia has adult humor in it, but it is a kid's movie first. There's one thing in this movie. movie that lets me know that they at least had a thought that kids would be into it is that there are no random 80s tits that pop up in the movie anywhere sure we'll get there and they took some of that they took some of that other stuff out like there was like bad writing on the walls that they decided to change and just like the animation of the ghosts like the guy they're like cute green ghost all the food like that is a kid did he curse this movie he's like not really not really

not really so but the movie is scary at times the demons turning in into stuff. Like, the movie is at times, like, serious? I think it's scary when they're on the top floor of that building when the, basically, the building's been blown out and it feels like they could go off the side of the either side. Also, it's just kind of harrowing to watch. It's just so funny that, like, they're like, no nudity, no profanity.

These guys can change smoke the entire. Oh, my God. There's so much smoke in this. Going back to 84, I wrote a piece. I think it was like my second or third year at page two that I thought 1984, was the greatest year ever for for like people like us. Yeah.

Like with the sports, the pop culture. So you had Beverly Hills Cop Ghostbusters. You had Purple Rain in the Terminator. So you'd Arnold's entrance. You had 16 candles and Karate Kid laying the template for the 80s teen movies. You had the peaks of Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Prince, and Huey Lewis.

And you also had, in February, Billy Jean at Motown 25, probably the single greatest television moment of my lifetime. Hulk Hogan wins WWE title. Jordan, the NBA and Merri Lemieux joins the NHL. We have the first bird magic NBA finals.

We have McEnroe, Gretzky, Bird, and Montana in their absolute primes. We have the peak of biggies basketball. We have a Thursday NBC with Cosby Show cheers and family ties. We have the start of Miami Vice. We have Letterman breaking through the first slam dunk contest, Madonna's arrival, Flutie wins the Hysman, Tom Hanks makes the leap, Howard Stern, and the 84 Olympics with no Russians. I can keep going and going.

Is this Philanova Georgetown? That was 85. But we do have Patrick Ewing and Georgetown. There's like 40 other things I could put in there, but it just felt like, I can't explain it, but everything felt really authentic back then. They hadn't really put the thought into,

we have this coming. Here's how we're going to shape it. Here's how we're going to shape the perception of it. Here's how we're going to promote this. Like, Goldsbusters is a summer movie that it just came out. It wasn't like, summer movie season has begun with, Ghostbusters, things just kind of happened.

And it was cool to be there for that. And watching people slowly figure out how to commercialize a summer like that and all the things that happened was really interesting in real time. Yeah. I mean, some of this is like our origin story and we probably mythologized that time period in some extent. Yeah. You were seven and I was 15.

So it was two different stages. But I also think that like, I think that there's something about like the way that culture worked back then, maybe. because it was like they were freely first starting to see a new level of how much money they could make. But even if you think back to the pop stars that we were being given, that was such a good, interesting mix of people and like sexual identity.

Prince Michael Jackson. Yeah. And Madonna. And Madonna. Yeah. And Bruce Springsteen. So even when Ghostbusters 2 comes out, right? the Ghostbusters 2 is a reaction to the new culture that we're in.

Big song by Bobby Brown, right? Bobby Brown is in the movie. It's almost a meta-commentary on the Ghostbusters. They franchised it. They franchised it. Now, by the time... And felt like they had to get it out before Batman. It's the whole nine.

It's just the different spirit. It's already changed because, like, everything that we're talking about are people that, like, came along in the era. And it's not, I'm not waxing poetic about it because the talent doesn't exist now to do this same stuff. It was just the first time we had seen some of this stuff. It was the first time the infrastructure for Blockbuster films

wasn't quite there yet. It was getting there. And we weren't as cynical about it. There wasn't like a tie-in to McDonald's or like all of that stuff hadn't been established yet. And so now I actually credit the creativity of contemporary artists because they are really going up

against some dogs, some legends. Yeah. Like just some people that were really, really, really unique in their approach and their creativity. We weren't cynical about anything in 1984. I just, like, believed whatever, it was like, Michael Jackson, big ladies man. It's like, yeah, totally. I agree. But, like, I remember Letterman, this was, like, probably the greatest Letterman year.

And he was, I don't remember for his 84-85, but he would just fuck with people. and it was always like organic. Like he had a bullhorn. He'd go out the window and they're filming the Today Show with Brian Gumbull and he has the bullhorn and he's just messing with them and Brian Gumbull's getting mad

and it's like, oh, he made Brian Gumbull man. And now it'd be like, just think of it the way that would be dissected now with social media and everything where it's like, are they feuding? What's going on here? The history of Letterman versus Brian Gumbull and it's like she wasn't like that.

I don't know. I miss it. It's amazing to imagine these guys rolling through New York and this is like when you read the research about them like in New York City at the time it's like they were they were like mayors they were the kings and like

the crowd scenes from S&L right Murray and Accorid are like these but even then I bet you're starting to get like everybody's got like this legendary like I was out and Bill Murray came into the bar at 145 with a Marty Grau parade and like you know these fucking

you know complete urban legends but like it's starting to build up and when you watch him work. Whenever he's like working the crowd in this movie, you're like, holy shit. Like this guy could have run for office. The closing credits are phenomenal. It's like one of my favorite parts in the movie. They're just in New York City.

In New York, everybody, the camera's getting all different parts of New York culture. They're covered in half. Stay pushed marshmallow film. Getting into the car. Smoking, still. Another hard day at the work for the... It almost becomes like a documentary at the end of the movie. Dude, they shut down

New York. They shut down Times Square. they shut down all around Central Park for days and days. People were like, this is cool. Murray and Akron, leave alone. They're doing a movie.

I just think it was just different back then because we almost like didn't know any better. And I think the Ghostbusters too is a really good way to frame this. It's only five years later. But by the time that comes out and there was a bunch of other sequels, some of them we talked about,

like we talked about another 48 hours, but like a bunch of the sequels that came out late 80s, early 90s were just money grabs. Yeah. Doing it a little bit more against their will. Even by the time we get to Batman, Batman is an interesting case study

in what it is that we're talking about. Batman is a swing. No doubt about it. The character itself is very well known, obviously in American pop culture. But Tim Burton at that time is an uteur, Artur, and to give him that type of deal, it's a swing.

It's like not the safest thing. Michael Keaton is Batman was a swing. It's not the safest thing in the world to do. However, though, that movie is one of the first movies of that era that was primed to be a box office blockbuster. With thought put into it. With thought put into it.

They already knew that we were into the era of the blockbuster, that the 90s would be huge, huge, they had already, 89 when that comes out, all the lessons from the 80s have been learned. So while it's an 80s movie, they knew there were sequels after, they had a day of planned out, they had everything, they had the tie-ins, they had all of that stuff done. So it is very pure in what we're talking about, but at the same time,

it's a reaction to the movies that came out in a decade prior to it. Last Crusade was a little like that, too. It absolutely was like that. But it felt very calculated with the attack. It was like that. It kind of comes to a, like, a head with Jurassic. Because Jurassic is like, it's not negotiable.

You're going to see this and you're going to love it. There's dinosaurs. And there's already shit to buy before the movie even comes out. Collectors cups. But can I tell you, the Last Crusade is actually a really good example of this. because to me, it took a long time for that movie to be properly appreciated because of the way it was when it came out and it was such a big deal. It was maybe the first event.

But they had like a Pepsi ad for that movie. The whole deal was a big corporate thing. And I think that that hurt and they have Sean Connery in the movie. They actually cast somebody to be equally yoked to Harrison Ford in it. So it was a movie star vehicle big summer event. But there's stuff about Ghostbusters in the making of it that does. kind of like project onto like even today where they're like,

they have a release date before they have a script. You know, like they have, you know, like there are certain like parameters around this movie. I think they knew. Murray was like not knowing until they were like the last minute that he was doing it. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I miss it. I miss not knowing a lot about a movie. Like all we knew from this movie were a couple commercials. We didn't have that whole infrastructure in place about the stories about at anything.

Like, I know we all approach this differently. I tried not to know anything about a movie when it's coming out. Like, even when we went and saw sinners, like, I don't think I 100% knew there are vampires. Or I knew something was going on or that it was going back to 19th.

There's something I didn't know about it because I had been so steadfast of avoiding everything. But these, in 1984, this would just pop out. We knew Prince was making a movie. Sure. Knew that the video would come out kind of before the movie. That was the first taste of it.

Other than that, you didn't know anything. And it was kind of the audience would decide. And that's how it went. And now you have to know everything to get people to go to the theater. Like Project Cail Mary, you think that was the case? Yeah, I mean, they certainly reveal... It was Gosling. You knew he was going to see...

The trailer gives away that he meets an alien out there. A lot of movies tease the twist in the trailer now because they just need to sell as much as they can to get you off your ass to go into the theater. So they have to tell you basically what the whole story is. Because they're premise heavy because we don't have the same crop of stars that we used to have. And Spielberg is doing the opposite with his current movie where he's not showing anything from the third act in the trailer. And it's a risk because that's why the trailer is not very sexy right now. I think that if you were watching three months of Ghostbusters trailer, if Ghostbusters is coming out now,

you would have seen 65% of the good Bill Murray lines in trailers. Yeah. So you would have seen this chick as toast already. Right. I also think that like at that point, and I was, I don't have any memory of Ghostbusters when it came out. I don't remember a time when I didn't know Ghostbusters. Like, my relationship to Bill Murray on Saturday Night Live was me going back.

Backwards through Ghostbusters. Me too. Backwards through Ghostbusters. For whatever, backwards through, like, whatever the fucking film is, like, me going, oh, my God, where does this guy get his start? And really, like, the Eddie Murphy, for me, the Eddie Murphy Saturday Night Live VHS was just a big part of my ability to like

appreciate Saturday a lot. So I had Murray with the S&L reruns because they show them in prime time. Yeah. And he would pop on Letterman every once in a while. But it was like, if that guy's in a comedy, I'm going. Yeah. Like he is, you see his face and you go,

I'm having a good time. This is the Piquets. It's crazy. One of the, I didn't really fully. realized this until we did the research. This movie was so big. Murray didn't do another movie for four years. He got freaked out

by how powerful and enormous this became and it made him rethink like everything. And Ackroyd wasn't really the same either. He did Razor's Edge before Ghostbusters. That was supposed to be his like, here's my serious acting. I'm a serious actor as well. Ackroyd did spies like us in 85 and

Drag Down in 87. Pretty rocky after that. Rightman and Ramos, it worked out better for those guys. But it's pretty, you see this sometimes where something's so big that people don't almost know what to do. Like Leo did Titanic and what did one movie in the next five years?

Did the beach and that was it. They're like, oh shit. Post-Bloos brothers, Akroyd was fascinated by the supernatural and quantum physics and parapsychology, all this stuff. And he wanted to trap ghosts and do a movie with him and Belushi

trapping ghosts. This was 1981. And he was inspired. I never saw these movies. Sean probably has them on 4K. Abnett and Costello hold that ghost. Bob Hope, the Ghost Breakers, the Bowery Boys, Ghost Chasers. So he wanted to do a comedy ghost movie

but have it rooted in actual research for how this stuff would work. Writing the Belushi scenes for the movie the day Belushi died. Like he tells that story in the Bob Woodward book. And then had to Audible that no he was going to do. It was originally called

Ghost Smashers. so he has this whole thing, shows it to Reitman. Rightman's like, this would cost a kajillion dollars. And it was set in the future. Yeah, it was like, can he put this in Earth?

So they get Ramos, and they pitch it. So this is why I get dubious of some of the casting what ifs because Reitman says he goes in, pitches this movie. It's going to be the three of us. We're going to rewrite it.

They're going to be the three Ghostbusters, Murray and Ramos and Ackroyd, and we're off. Then there's like 100 casting what if. So I don't, we're going to go to it later. I don't know what to believe. So they rewrite the movie. They decide Ramis is going to be the brains.

Acroids the heart. Murray's basically the wise ass. And they said it in New York City. And we're good to go, Van. Done. Do it. And it's, by the way, in the Horlebeck scale, hour 45. Right there.

Yeah. I don't even know what I would cut. I think it's kind of perfect. Yeah. I think anything in the hour 40 is fine. Just to go back to something Van was saying a little bit, there's something different. about this than Stripes and Beverly Hills cop to me.

Where Stripes and Verliel's cop feels like 1970s scripts that they were like, this has been kicking around or like we have an idea based on something that has already been done. Yeah. What if Eddie Murphy was the cop? What if Bill Murray was the soldier? And what would we do with that? This feels new.

This feels like something that's like, like this and back to the future feel like movies that I'm like, I don't think they could have done this in 1976. It's good to bring those together because those are back to the futures the next year. Yeah. Those are the two where it's like, I'm sure when they were working on this,

they were probably like... Is this going to work? Yeah, is this going to work? But also like, this might be massive. Yeah. Because you have a feeling because you're catching lightning in the bottle with some of the stars.

But yeah, it's a good point. But they both have like iconography where you're like the skateboard and, you know, the inventing skateboarding basically. Or like, you know, the Ecto one and the jumpsuits and this where you're like, man, I just feel like these guys just, they got six or seven new things and six or seven things

that are just 100 years old and solid, and they put them together to make something nobody had seen before. And the movie is very 80s. Like, I thought about things this time. She's a concert violinist. Yeah, cellist, right? Like a cellist. She's a concert cellist.

And not really addressed or shown at all. Not really addressed or shown. Does no rehearsal? But she is an artist. She is a woman about her time. that her... Living in Central Park West. Living in Central Park West, like he walks into it and goes a lot of space in here.

She's a successful lady. Her entire independence is upended by the fact that she has an uninvited guest that she can't kick out, which is the ghost. So it's almost a... Zool, a meta-commentary on, like, the 80s woman. Like, all of the stuff that's happening in the movies,

the movies is very 80, it's very 80s because there's a cultural explosion that's happening around that time that the movie takes advantage of. Murray is on an all-time run that we mentioned. 79-84, meatballs, caddyshack, stripes, Tutsi ghostbusters. I mean, Jesus, he's been living off that for 42 years. The guy can do no wrong.

Akrod had Blues Brothers. He did neighbors and Dr. Detroit between trading places and trading places, which if we're talking about all these, like, and we've done a lot of them when we watchables, Trading Places is just a kick-ass conventional movie. With major stars. This movie is a kick-ass movie that had the chance to grow in a different way.

Well, you're talking about the casting what ifs. Trading Places, there's 10 versions of the two guys in Trading Places. And none of them don't work. With Charles Groton and Bob De Niro or something like that. You could pick pairs and make a lot of those movies work.

You could pick pairs and make 48 hours work. Maybe not on the level it does. Beverly Hills cop. You could find a Detroit cop going in Beverly Hills. I don't know. You look at the casting what ifs, even if you just do a fake fantasy draft of like who would you want as the four Ghostbusters,

there's no way to top this. This is the Beatles. How much, how many digestible science fiction blockbusters had we had before this? Obviously Star Wars was a gigantic theme. Because like Alien wasn't a blockbuster. Right. I'm talking about.

Aliens was a blockbuster, I think, in 86. Movies that deal in, like, paranormal, there's ghost stuff. This film has to play in middle of America. Like, but it's a science fiction. Polter guys, close encounters. Like, those movies are, like, big films. I'm talking about, like, in this way, like, for a comedy, for them to kind of do this version of it, it's failed a hundred times.

Right. Yeah. It usually doesn't work. And honestly, I'm not sure how this movie works. I think this movie works because, like, when you go back through it, there are like 100 lines where I'm like, oh, that is actually now just something I say with, and I forgot it came from Ghostbusters.

Do you know what I mean? Like an aside that you make routinely. Don't cross the streams actually became like pop culture. I was going to ask, I was going to ask if that's, did that come from this movie? Yeah. Like peeing, crossing streams? Don't cross the streams.

This entire movie is a piece of pop. Like, the fact that. Myth Busters. Something is called Busters. Anything Busters is like this entire movie is just pure D. Yeah, there's a bunch of those with this.

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smart they were like you're a dramatic actress you went to yale we're intimidated by you're six feet tall she's like i'm really funny you got to try me out she does from a 10 year span 79 89 89 alien ghostbusters aliens and working girl which are four of the biggest movies of that stretch she was also an eyewitness you're living dangerously deal the century girls in the mist and ghostbusters too stealth case for winning the 80s yeah for female actress for actresses I don't know who else is in there. I'd have to see Merle Streep's 80s. Yeah, Merrill Street.

I don't think she had, she probably had more... Sally Field? I don't, I think... But not Blockbusters. Yeah, not Blockbusters, yeah. I think Melanie Griffiths, probably in there. Meli Griffiths is new. But I think Sigourney has the best mix of, like,

Blockbuster with, like, credibility. She has Blockbuster. She has the gold. She has a... She has rom-com. She has Blockbusters, sci-fi stuff. She has a... It's pretty good.

Can I hear Diane Keaton's 80s? Oh. Dynkeen's 80s? That has... It's like Baby Boom. I don't think she had it because some of it's from the 70s. Yeah, it's tough. Well, we already figured out that Renee Rousseau won the 90s.

We did. A few podcasts ago. Just convincingly, too. Just destroyed everywhere. What's her NBA comp? What's the really devastatingly effective championship-winning NBA player that nobody remembers how good they were when they were on top of their game? Sigourney Weaver?

No, I'm talking about René Rousseau. Oh, Renee Rousseau? Oh. René Rousseau was a problem? Like, highlight real? Like, yeah. Yeah. Hey, look at Renee Rousseau.

Russo's bad. It's like nine bangers. Nine bangers. Yeah. Not missing. I think she's the second most rewatchables library actress. She might be. I think it's Meg Ryan and then her, something like that.

Yeah, so Sigourney. And then Dave was the only other combination of which, ironically, was with Ivan Redmond, but she had a good timing. I don't know. She's so tall. Like, if there's other actors that could have been in this, that I think it would have been bad. I mean, just her...

Her three interactions with Moranus are like, they're just funny to look at together. Yeah. It's just like, as soon as he comes out of his apartment, you're like, you've got to be fucking kids.

Yeah, it looks like Wembe with like Stefan Castle. Ray Parker's theme song, do you have any Sigourney Weaver or do you want to save it for later? Oh, save it for later. I love it. I love it. I figured.

Yeah. Ray Parker's theme song, number one for three weeks. The video is number one. MTV directed by Reitman featured Chevy Chase John Candy, George Went, Thena de Vito, Carly Simon, a million people,

and everyone's dancing down the streets of New York City. And they closed time square, which they kind of stopped doing after the 80s. And I think Vanilla Sky was like the last anything they got them to close time square. You have to do it now at dawn, but they were probably like 3.45 p.m. We're just going to shoot Ghostbusters.

So then it turned into this whole scandal with the Huey Lewis song. Yeah. I want a new drug. Yeah. which is what's age the worst for this movie because there's a lot of research on this. They wanted Hewe Lewis to do the song. They put I Want a New Drug as the temp song

and some of the early scenes. And then Ray Parker had a week to write the song. And it really does sound like the same thing. So there's some mystery lawsuit that we've never heard the details. I think Huey Lewis financially did okay. I think he did okay. Yeah.

Because he bounced back like the next year he did the whole Back to the Future joint. And like he had two albums that, sold like 20 million records. He was the man at that point. You know what? I'm glad we have them both. It's like Kevin Heather Thomas

and Heather Lachlare. We're all winners. That's right. Two really good songs. There's an incredible what if with this movie that we mentioned earlier about Eddie Murphy. And there's...

A lot of competing journalism. Competing narratives about this. Ackroyd seems to be adamant that it was for Ghostbusters and Winston was going to be Eddie Murphy. and that one adds up to me more because they had just done trading places together as he's writing Ghostbusters

also why wouldn't you want Eddie Murphy in this movie? But Reitman was like that that wasn't the case, right? Rightman said, no, no, he was never a serious thing but I almost felt like he was trying to be nice to Ernie Hudson. Right. I'm going to believe that they went hard after Eddie Murphy and I don't know why they wouldn't have. Of course.

And I think it adds up because he had relationships with Murray and Akron. it's almost the new category, Craig. The Eddie Murphy and Ghostbusters Award for Biggest What If? Because if he's in this movie from the beginning, it doesn't work. It breaks my brain. So you think it doesn't work?

It does not work. Absolutely not in no way, shape, or form. First of all, like, I don't... Can we talk this out? There's not enough screen for those guys all to be on screen together doing... Like, this movie works because the other guys

revolve around Murray. Right. If you have Murphy... in there and they're like, let's give Murphy like three scenes where there's no script and he's just allowed to like cook. I just think it starts to blot out the sun a little bit. Like I'm sure we would have clips that we were like,

that's the fucking funniest thing I've ever seen. But you can't just like let Eddie Murphy cook from the Winston position. So it's just like A.J. Brown and J. Lin-Hertz? Or A.J. Brown and Drake May. Wow. Yeah, it's, it's when Ernie comes into the movie,

he does exactly what he's supposed to. Exactly. He steadies the whole deal. He's a little bit of skepticism. A little bit of skepticism, a little bit of realness. He's the every man. He's an every man. Everybody else is all into this absurdist comedy,

and he's the one like, I need my own lawyer. You know, he's perfect. Eddie, you got to let him win scenes. Or if you don't let him win, he's going to win them. So it just doesn't work. It's like that weird Lakers team where they had Nash and Howard and all of those guys. It's not enough basketball and got a bad back. You're the same person who thinks Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown can't play together.

I want to say it. So they play better. Brown's leading the team. I'm, I'm zagging. I think they could have figured it out. I actually think the upside of the movie is higher and the downside is lower. I'm fine with where we landed because this became an iconic awesome movie.

It's really hard for me to believe that Eddie Murphy in 1984 wouldn't have improved a movie. I don't think it wouldn't have, I don't think it wouldn't have, improving a a weird thing. I just think it wouldn't be what it is. And I think there would be like three scenes where you're like, holy shit, like, I can't believe we didn't get more Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy talking to ghosts, you're telling me I'm not enjoying that in a movie theater?

But, okay, where's Eddie had in his career at this point? Like, Eddie, Eddie has done 48 hours trading places and he's doing Beverly's cop that comes out the same year. He's stuff a baby in the corner, you're not going to get it. It's not going to, it's not going to work. So he did a movie called Deal of the Century, ironically, where he's in

they basically filmed his scene. It didn't work. It wasn't a good movie. And he's in it. He kind of pops in it out. So he's like a star, but he's not a star. And I wonder if they did that for this, where he's in basically half the movie as like they're bringing the firepower in.

I mean, it would be, like, it would be really funny if Eddie Murphy played Walter Peck. Oh, or Richard Peck or Walter Peck? Walter Peck. Walter Peck. Like,

he just had like two scenes. Two scenes. Well, it's a what if because he could have gone 48 hours trading places, Beverly Cop and Ghostbusters in three years. that would have shut it down. Yeah, too much. That also would have been pretty funny to watch Eddie Murphy and Ghostbusters too.

Oh, he would have done it. Yeah. He would have been available. Wow, I'm surprised you guys weren't more receptive to this. You're really protective of the four Ghostbusters. Well, to me, this is a perfect film. Like, I just think that you start to mess with the notation of the music, and it changes the tune a little bit.

Craig, would you want Ed Murphy in this? I get what they're saying. I think it would have worked if maybe he had, like, a guest spot-type role or he just came in and like Dion Waiters to two big scenes and then got out. I don't know if he could have been in the whole movie. Another thing, to me, the movie is oriented around the comedic tone and stylings of Bill Murray

and Eddie Murphy does his comedy in a different way. Yeah. Also, I always thought the Winston character, like, didn't make any sense. That felt like they were four. I feel like he didn't have a time to do. To be honest, it felt like a token casting. Wow. Interesting.

think so? You don't want us? We can't bust ghosts? Put him in the beginning of the movie then. Yeah. Oh, so now you've gone

the other way. He wants him to be a scientist as well. I'm like, we just jammed him in there. He didn't have a ton to do. But it makes sense that they're like, this is way more work

than we thought it was going to be. It just felt like they bailed on that storyline. I think it's a really nice, like we got to bring somebody off the bench in the middle of the movie. I think the reason why. Could have been Eddie Murphy. All right.

Funniest person alive in 1934. I just thought we could go through like these movies that were just like, you know what, it would be good as if Tom Cruise showed up to see him. Why can't Tom Cruise be the vampire? But in this case, he really was supposed to be the fourth Ghostbuster. Sure. And I think that, like,

Ernie Hudson's sometimes acrimonious relationship to this movie, like at various points where he's been like, well, the script, like, there's a much bigger part in the script that I read. I wonder if that was for Eddie. I wonder if they wrote it thinking we might get Eddie. All kinds of research on that with whether it was a much bigger part

that got cut down once they really Dernie Hudson was in it, or what was going on. This movie was nominated for two Oscars. Best song, best visual effects. Elmer Bernstein scored not nominated. Very good, though. We were, what's the Horacek scale, 100 minutes? Yeah.

So we're plus five. Yeah, that's fine, though. It's amazing. If it's in the hour 40s range, it's fine. Okay. 30 million dollar budget made $298 million. In 1984, so adjusted, that's like a bill. Yeah.

Second biggest film of 84. Biggest comedy ever at the time, which lasted only a few weeks, and then Beverly's cop took that. Number one for seven straight weeks, kicked off the number one list by a little movie called Purple Rain. We used to do it to make things in America.

We sure did. We fucking knew what we were doing in 1984. Proify yourself. It's like, sorry, Ghostbusters. Prince is here. I sure you're going to get to Raj in a second. I had a quote from just reading up about that I thought really summed it up.

Judd Apatow said, it really is a perfect comedy. It was all those people at the height of their powers. They had mastered their craft and made the film we dreamed they'd make. Movies like Ghostbusters made us want to make movies. No notes. Raj went three and a half stars.

See? He docked at a half star for recent. Because no, Eddie Murphy. He said, rarely has a movie this expensive. provided so many quotable lines. And he said, Ghostbusters is one of those rare movies where the original, fragile, comic vision has survived a multi-million dollar production.

Yeah. Good way to put it. Yep. Want to go to the scenes? Let's go to the scenes. Most rewatchable is going to be interesting. Most rewatchable scene. Vankman working ESP with the two kids in favoring the blonde.

It's so fucking funny. Studying the effect of negative reinforcement on ESP. For $5. For $5. Do you know what movie that the guy was in in that scene? You didn't recognize him?

I didn't. You might be the only one who's seen this movie. What? Actually, C.R. might have. Christine. Oh, yeah. He was one of the two bad guys.

Oh, yeah, he sure was. He and that other guy, buddy. And Jennifer Runyon is the woman? Jennifer Runyon. Yeah. Beautiful here. I think Christine, one of the 10 worst movies I've seen the most.

It's really awful Yeah, it's hard for me I think I've seen it at least 20 times I've seen a bunch of too It's hard for me to view it as bad But it's Those Stephen King movies back there Then were kind of gaming

I liked all of them I mean maximum overdrive Is still my dream of watchable Even Stephen King didn't like The Stephen King movies And I'm like sign me up Coojo Just you've been trapped in a car For 45 minutes

Maximum Overdrive Uh uh It's Stephen King directed it While High on Cocaine Yeah say no more Stars Emilio Estevez It is about machines Taking over the world

Yeah. Wait a minute. It's bad shit crazy. I did see this. Yeah. And it's set at a truck stop in North Carolina. Yeah, I did see this. It's like, oh, no, I'm thinking of repo, man.

I don't want to do cocaine month for the rewatchables. I want to do cocaine year. Just 52 movies where everybody was out of their mind. It's 2028 leading into the presidential election. It's cocaine year. Cocaine year. Next rewatchable scene, the fellas go to the library and get spooked. My uncle thought he was St. Jerome.

This, a couple of movies have done a, really good job of nailing how creepy libraries are. The wrong kind of time of day of a big sprawling library, you just feel like something awful could happen. Any place where there are a lot of people in it, but

you are supposed to be quiet, feels odd. Yeah. Good point. Sigourney with the groceries, aka Dana, we get the Ghostbusters commercial on TV at this point. We are ready to believe you. We're ready to believe you. Really good special effects with the eggs, and I think we should have mentioned this at the top.

For 1984, some of the special effects were excellent. Like, really good. Like, we have eggs frying on a counter. And in 1984, going, wow, how are they doing that? Yeah. Now it would be like, you know, they could do anything in that. One of the biggest picking nits of the entire movie to me still is a woman like Dana buying a giant bag of marshmallows.

Interesting. What's she doing? You think she was going to make Rice Krispy treats or something? Oh. Like for her orchestra or something? Like, I don't know. Maybe she were getting down. Anna, let me get marshelas.

Okay. Yeah. Sexual food. He's appealing directly to you. China sends Vance value sometimes. I think she would have cleaned the eggs up. Yes. The eggs were on the counter for like two days.

Well, she didn't want to clean them because she was going to go get the ghostbusters to come back and check the minds. That's true. Vankman gets slimed in the banquet room. That's great. Actual physical contact. Save me something. This is where we get the don't cross the streams. This is where we get though.

We came, we saw, we conquered. He veers into Nick the Lounge Singer and Carl from Caddyshack a little bit. This is my favorite scene, my most rewatchable. Right after that, the most 80s movie montage you could possibly have. So good. Ray Parker song kicks in. Gui Lewis's lawyers immediately go to work. We get Roger Grimsley, the Live at Five Anchors.

in New York City. Yeah, yeah. Roger Grimsby. We get early Larry King. We get a USA Today, Ghost fever, Grips, New York. We get Time Magazine Omni in the Atlantic. We get the soothing towns of

sounds of Casey Kasem. Yeah. We get the Joe Franklin show. Yeah. We get the Globe with a Princess Die expecting again. And this is clearly that Kid Cuddy Pursuit Happiness.

Best needle drop. But it just makes me so happy to watch this. Yeah, this is, This is like the serotonin hit. This is like legal ecstasy. If you watch this, you're like, God damn. It was just the best. The only thing missing is Pacino and cruising, just dancing.

Just dancing. Lather jacket. Just the chloroformin, yeah. Maybe when we do the social clip, we can run the montage, but then work in Pacino, the leather outfit. Rick Moranis's party? Love it. Supposed mostly ad-libbed.

He introduces people by their financial situations. coming to door, has the blonde who, I mean, I know he's pined over Sigourney Weaver, and So Gorni Weaver looks better. You like Gene Kaysom, the bond? I like that. We're running on cheers. Casey's girlfriend, yeah. Casey Kaysom's wife.

Moran is coming out and going, hey, this is real smoke salmon from Nova Scotia Canada, 2495 a pound. Only cost me $14.12 cents after tax, though. I'm thinking this whole thing as a promotional expense. That's why I invited clients instead of friends. You having a good time, Mark? How are you doing? Why don't you have some breeds in room temperature? He's like, fucking...

Going. Yeah, I was just like... He says a hat trick in the first period. Well, were his guys Bob and Dave? Bob and Elaine, yeah. Like, wait, the one where they come in and they're like... No, the... The SETV.

He did. Oh, yeah. The fucking brothers. The brothers. The McKenzie brothers. Yeah. He's doing a combo of that, but there's a little garth from Wainsworld in there, too. We're just kind of like talking on the side of his mouth.

We didn't talk about Baranis. What's your relationship with him? Obviously, this is limited by the fact that he doesn't do a ton after Honey I Shrunk the kids, right? He basically disappears. Now, he kind of disappeared. But this is a performance worthy of considering renaming the Dionne Weyer's Award after him. Going nuts. Just absolute.

Like, he plays like two different characters in this. And they are both among the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. Him is Vince Clortho. Him is Louis Tully. And then sneaky him as Louis Tully again. And at the end, who does your taxes? Lovable and hilarious.

Like, I don't know, man. So space walls. Would you come in and get a mineral water? Like, you see him at first. He's got to be in the scene when you see him. He's got to be a little bit of a pest. Yeah. But he's got to be lovable enough to where later on in the movie,

you're going to feel like a sense of danger because he's been possessed. You're going to have to be happy. Well, it seems like he dies. When he goes against the window, it seems like that's it for him. And then he comes back. And then they just give him a scene where it's just like,

we have Rick Moranus in this movie. You know Rick Moranus. Let us show you how funny he is. Honey I Shrunk the Kids was a massive movie. Do you know the premise of that, Craig? Oh, I loved it as a kid. Yeah. He was a major star.

He was a major star. He does Little Giants. Little Giants is the last time I remember. Great Kid movie. Yeah, I loved Little Giants. He plays a straight man in that one a little bit. Reminds me a little Joe Anderson. Didn't totally want it.

Just liked his life. Oh, my God. Didn't want to move to L.A. Jesus. He wanted to stay there. wanted to stay in Maryland. Yeah, like this life. Raised the roof.

Rick Moranis, just liked his life. I thought he got out of acting because his wife got sick or something. I mean, I'm just saying like he doesn't have like a million parts like my relationship. And Randis is like you made six great movies. Is that right though? Was there something?

He wanted to raise his kids and like all that. Just, you know. Next scene. Are you the key master? Sigourney. Mm-hmm. You want to do this now? Yeah.

Okay. Absolute. Listen. Okay. I'm going to have a glass of waters All right, so look What are we doing? We're just, we're asking the question.

Oh, yeah, that's Catherine Trammell. Right, okay. We're asking the question, though. We're asking the question. You knock on the door, she asks you the keymaster. You come in. Vance like, I am. Like, yeah, that's what he is.

I am the key master, actually. And then you watch him go through that scene and he's a perfect gentleman. Vinkman is a good guy. Because he comes off like a sleep. leave bag in every other scene, but he knows that it's not her. He is a pre-to-consent master. Is what he is.

Vankment is. Baintingman goes, because he actually's playing it on himself. He's said, oh, maybe why not? Why not? But he can't do it. This has been a question in my family for a long time, whether or not. You take a shot at Possessed Dana. Take a shot at Possess Dana.

Yeah. Because you don't know. Do you take a shot at him? You also don't know if your sexual sacrifice spares everybody this whole occult gozer the gozerian situation in the first place. You also don't know what the sex is going to be like. I mean, that would be the big sticker for me. Yeah, that gets into species territory.

That could, yeah. Yeah, you're going into Natasha Hentridge in the hotel room level. Can I do my flex now? Because it's related. Let's do it. The Mallory. And this wasn't even in the dock because you didn't think anybody would bring this up. The Mallory Rubin Award for Did This Movie Need a Better Sex Scene?

It's not Weaver and Murray. It's Weaver and Moranus. We needed a Natasha Hensredge style. On the roof? Yeah. Because he's the actual keymaster. He is. And we see him after.

I think it's implied that they did. Oh, for sure. We see him kind of in the afterglow. I mean, it can be like clothes on. That's fine. You can know nudity. But I wanted to see her just like, because like just the physical difference between the two of them,

I think that would have taken their relationship to the next level. We actually got to see her on top of him. just tearing him down. Wow. It would have been amazing. Wow. R-rated Ghostbusters from Craig. Yeah.

See Craig. Oh, I'm into that. Yeah. He's got it in there. Yeah. It went the way. It should have gone, though. You can't do it.

She's possessed. Can't do it. It's possessed. It's possessed. Can't do it. There is no Dana. Only zoo. He pumps her full of Thorsey.

Next scene, the spirits get loose in New York City. Thanks to that asshole, Walter Peck. Just fucking unleashes everybody. Classic politics. I set you up for a follow-up joke. I don't know what you mean. Classic politician's stuff.

I thought, yeah. I thought you were going to. It's fine. It's fine. The big ending, I don't even know what to make of. Where do these stairs go? They go up. Yeah.

The choices made. I love this plan. I'm excited to be a part of it. Did you make a choice? The blown out building balcony which I mentioned makes me anxious. And then the whole stay puff marshmallow thing just should not have worked.

Yeah, and it's amazing. Accroyd is great in that scene. When they're like, did you, did you? And he's just like, fuck. The thing that I laughed at this time was, they go, you think about who you're, whatever is who's going to bring up. And then they go, the decision has been made, like right away.

Because he's thinking about the state puff marshmallow man. The comic timing of him not being able to clear his mind, just hysterical. And then he right away knows that he's fucked up and he checks out. If it had been Van and he was in, and it would have just been like a 100-foot Lisa Bonnet from Angel Heart? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just walking through the streets of New York City.

He was working on twerking down buildings. Yeah. The fuck. Oh, God. That also has, they finally decide they should cross the streams. Yes. Great idea. You got a chance.

And then I mentioned the closing credits were just immense amount of fun. What do you have for most rewatchable? I have two years mentioned. Okay. One, the first time Peter goes to Dana's apartment with the turkey baster. Yep. And he's just like playing the piano. He's like, I love to torture him.

It's Dr. Vankman, boys. Like that. And then the jail, the jail scene where all the prisoners gather around. Oh, yeah, yeah. Going into the mayor's office with Peck. And I felt like that was the trading places jail. I loved it. They just shot it in the same.

Just all the guys. The same guys. Yeah, they just ran about it. Somebody's coming. But yeah, I mean, like, the whole thing when Peck and Vankman are squaring off in front of the mayor, but the real, what we watchable scene is the fame montage. So the open to me, the first thing you see are the ghosts.

The movie sets up like what the actual star the movie is. The first thing you see are the ghosts. Before you get to Vankman, it shows the library and you get the actual haunting because it got put you in the world. So I think that's very important. But you know what I always loved? The first call. The first call they ever get,

which is actually filmed in the Biltmore downtown L.A. Yeah. Yeah. But the first call they get where they're in there and it's slimer, to me, that's my favorite scene of the movie. Which is like, we got one? Yeah. Well, we got one.

They go there and they're, like, actually using their equipment for the first time. It's like almost the Ghostbusters origin story scene. God bless you. That's my favorite scene in the movie. We should probably go to the Biltmore and do like a whole video shoot. I feel like the Biltmore's come up in 12

rewatchables movies. Yeah. Didn't it just come up in To Live and Die in L.A.? I'm I think the Biltmore is where they do the guy jumping off the roof to live and die in L.A. Was that where they did the elevator? That's the... Or that was another one. That's in the line of fire that is the elevator.

When you go there, it's awesome because they obviously have all of those movies up there so you can see that they were shot there. What's the most 1984 thing about this movie? I think the winner of this is the Ghostbusters montage but I think we should talk about some other ones Larry King taking radio calls while smoking Yeah

Larry King definitely This is actually where people ask Like Chris what's your ambition And I'm like I want Bill to give me A drive time call in radio show that I could smoke during There you go Done You're live on drive time and see you on

Hey J. Brown What's up in that? Chris, what's going on with the street lights? I hate it. I love it. These pot holes. What are they going to do about it? Thanks for making my call. What do they do with all this copper, CR? I have for

an 1884 runners-up. Ackroyd's video camera. Oh, that's pretty 1984. See the Twin Towers a couple times in this, which is tough. Gene Kaysam. Yeah. It's just, this was like her moment

between this and cheers and being married to Casey. So what was the deal here? Like, they wanted to use Casey Kasem's voice and Gene Kasem is part of the- He's probably like, I'll do your movie if you put my wife in the movie. Yeah. Not that she can't act, I'm just asking.

My favorite runner-up for this, though, is calling someone a pencil neck. I feel like that's been gone for 38 years. He gets out of here, yeah. Yeah, that was like, that peaked in the 80s. Having her pencil neck in a long time. I got a couple. One,

they're Ghostbusters and they immediately are asked about Elvis. No one has any clue in the mid-80s how big of a fucking deal Elvis's death and potentially being alive still was. We're talking about it all the time

on the front of every national acquirer. Somebody saw Elvis in West Virginia with a honky talk band. It's like all the deaths from the last 15 years that were massive just combined into one death. That was Elvis. Tribeca being fucked up. Oh, that's a really good one.

Goes into there and goes. He says the neighborhood is like a demilitarized zone. Yeah. Like Tommy Alter has a bar that he likes to go to that legitimately is right across the street from this ghostbusters. On Verrick? Yeah, right there. You can see the thing. It's right there.

Area is fucking beautiful. What? We go there. When I'm in New York, me and Tommy and other people. We have a friend. I was going to do my Tommy impersonation. I don't know if I should do that. Go for it.

What is it? What's the name of the bar? I can't remember the name of the bar. I really can't. Maybe it's Walkers. Is it called Walker? Walker. Yeah, it's Walker.

I was at Walker's last night with Cooper, Puffman. He does the pause because he says the first name, but then remembers that you probably don't know who it is. So it's like, I was doing rewatchables with Chris, Ryan. Right. It's my Tommy Outter in Pers station. Ben's on his way. Stiller.

Stiller. And then we're going to run into Jalen Brunson later. Yeah. And the last. one, 1988, EPA in this movie are the bad guys. That's come back around. I guess. I guess, actually, I guess.

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All right, what stage the best? We mentioned don't cross the streams, which is 42 years and counting. Phenomenal New York City movie. We did New York City Month last year, and we didn't do Ghostbusters because I wanted to do it this year for some reason. But I just love how they use every aspect of the city. Yeah. And even like that high shot when you can look down at Central Park

and you see all the trees and just like, it's just great. I love the even seeing people like Joe Franklin in there. And I just... When State Puff is walking around and all the cabs and shit are getting into car accidents, I think that's Columbus Circle. But I'm just like, this is great. How the fuck did they do this? Sunny every day.

There's never, every day. She's a happy, sunny movie. There's no weather. But like the, even in Ghostbusters 2, like, New York, how can I say this? Like, the ethos of New York is a character of the movie. It seems like a story that could only take place in New York.

Yeah. What do you have for, what's age the best? You know, I actually, this is, which is the best, is kind of funny because sometimes I'm just like, these lines, but this is a couple of these. The logo, the firehouse, the Ectomobile, the marshmallow man,

these are 40 plus years. If you see that, you're like, Ghostbusters instantly. And they are indelible pop culture symbols still, and the uniforms. So kids are still doing this for Halloween. It got brought back during Stranger Things, I think. It's just like a couple of really, really, really durable pop culture icons from this movie. The proton packs I have because they are so signature to the Ghostbusters, Proton packs. Also, the brands.

In this movie, they got Cheez-It, Coca-Cola, Perrier. All of this shit is still around. He's eating Cheez-I-It. She's got Perrier in there. Coca-Cola. I mean, obviously, Coca-Cola is going to be around forever. The Cheez-Sitz made me want Cheez-S. Maybe one cheese.

These guys drinking canned Budweiser, maybe one... Yeah. Like, all of the stuff that they're not. Do you think that was trying to think. They didn't really... That was a big deal, obviously, in the 80s. It still is. But they didn't linger on the end of the 80s.

They were doing it. All the time. Yeah. I also had a nice element to this movie. It's, like, got very little backstory. Don't really, you don't know where Vankman comes from. You don't really, like, none of, like, their past kind of, like, childhood trauma or anything like that.

But their financial peril is, like, very cute in the first half of this movie. When Akroy takes out the loan and Bill Murray, he goes, you're not going to lose the house. Everybody has three mortgages. He's like, yeah, but at 19%. He didn't even park with the guy. That's another thing that's age of best. High interest rates,

19%. That would have been good for the 1984 section. I forgot to put that in. Yes, it's true. The man has no dick. It's still fucking funny. It's like one of the, what's our line delivery one?

The Jesse Eisenberg. That's in the running for best line. I mean, that's like the entire movie performance. Yeah. The original SNL generation popping in movies with each other, which is basically Blues Brothers, Caddyshack, Trading Places, Ghostbusters, Spies Like Us.

We're probably the big ones. When did that stop? I was just having a conversation at Sycamore about cone heads and about all of the movies that were made around. Some of the bad ones. Because there are some bad ones, right? And there's some ones that are underrated. A lot of drugs back then. But when did the era of S&L people leave in S&L's world?

It hasn't ended. Well, yeah. Sinclair was the next one to do. And then Apatow, who learned from both generations, blew it out. And just was like That's what Craig grew up But it's the Appetow generation Of these are my extended crew

We're all gonna be in movies with each other And yeah It's like late 90s early odds With like awesome powers And the happy girls up to bridesmaids Yeah I was saying with S&L Yeah

Oh I guess bridesmids Yeah Speaking to Apatow This movie's pretty legendary For all the improv And all the ad-libbing and stuff So this is another thing That I saw a lot of debate

About like how much How much is written versus how much is improv So go ahead Yeah Well, I think it did influence comedies because I think everything was pretty rigid with there's the script, say your lines, here's the written jokes.

And Caddyshack, they ad lipped a lot, but it was mostly because they didn't have a script. But I think in this one, he was encouraging, Reitman was encouraging the people to explore the studio space with different scenes. And then I think in the 2000s, that really took off. Well, it's also these guys' idea. Yeah.

So being it's their idea. Yeah, their writers. And they know who Murray is. Yeah. They know what they do. There was like a quote. Acroyd had had some quote where he was like, the script is mostly structure and exposition.

And a lot of the dialogue is like Murray cooking. But then the shooting script is all the lines. But I guess there are like a lot of alts where like Murray's throwing out like three or four different options. So it's kind of what do you believe? 55 Central Park West. I think Wednesday Amanda Dobbins were for best piece of real estate. Just a great looking building. The real Ghostbusters cartoon I have as a.

the best. That was like a real thing there for four years. It was a big deal. And honestly kept the whole thing in the consciousness between the two movies. To make the sequel happen, whether you like to sequel or not. And this was the, the Ghostbusters thing is the first time as a child that I ever experienced confusion in the marketplace.

Confusion in the marketplace is something that I would go on to like experience in my adult life. Like which thing is the real thing? There was another Ghostbusters cartoon. And this Ghostbusters cartoon featuring them going through time with a fucking gorilla or some shit like that. And so like, the reason why the real one is called the real ghostbusters

is because it was like, hey, these are the ghostbusters that you know. But I watched the other ghostbusters for like four shows. And it was different dudes, right? It was different dudes, like, waiting for them to become the ghostbusters from the movie. Right. And then the real ghostbusters comes out. It's completely different. It's the first time I realized that.

It's cute. I had the green slimer as a woodstage the best because Akroyd and Ramos really wanted the green slimer to be. be like Belushi. So they were really pushing the guy to be like, can you make this Belushi-esque and make them like a party animal, slobby, and they spent a lot of money on it. And it's like really important, accurate.

It's like they feel like that's how they got Belushi in the movie with this green slimer. I think slime period his age really well. 80s and 90s. Big slime. Nickelodeon took it over. Yeah, good point. The promo stuff, this is what I forgot to mention at the top. They had a theatrical trailer with the toll-free telephone number.

and a message with Murray and Ackroyd, and everyone called it. And it was, for some reason, worked really well with the marketing. You mentioned the Busters thing. So the Ghostbusters phenomenon, you had budget busters, crop busters, nuke busters,

litter busters, price busters was Pan American Airlines. So busters just took off. And eventually became myth busters and stuff we have now. The no ghost logo was modified to protest Ronald Reagan, Walter Mondale, Mickey Mouse, union stuff, that kept going. And then Murray, when he says, this chick is toast,

they think it's the first time somebody ever said toast as like a slang term and then it took off. No shit. Oh, really? Wow. They don't think it existed before this. Interesting. Yeah. Great shot.

Coordor Award. Most cinematic shot. I don't have a specific shot, but this movie shot by Laslo Covax, who's like a Hungarian cinematographer, did stuff for Bogdanovich. And then winds up shooting a bunch of stuff in the 80s, a lot of New York that makes that basically that that 80s New York vibe of movies

that moves on from like the super gritty to the more like, hey, yeah, people can live here now. And it's Wall Street. And like people have advertising executive jobs. And that look is very distinctive. And he did like legal eagles. And he did Ghostbusters, obviously, and say anything. so he shot mask

he's just like a really good cinematographer but all of the New York stuff that he shoots the crowd scenes and stuff are just great I have a great shot Gordo since you didn't have one when they're going up the stairs at the end oh yeah and they have that one shot

where it just seems like it's a hundred floors of stairs above them but the way they shoot that let me know I'm going to pew yeah it's just really it's a really cool shit chess swap world Brocklander's a word for best character name is it Dr. Peter

Venkbin? No. I think it's been gone Spangler. It's Gozer the Gozerian. Oh, Gozer the Gozer the Gozerre. Gozer the Gozer. Genithes, Benithe's Benihanna Award, would you go Dana's apartment, the library, or something else? I had the firehouse. Okay. Firehouse is fantastic. Do you know what I like that we don't see on film that much? Tavern on the green.

When they're outside and he's running through, that's in trading places. I just love the way the outside looks. It's always like all these people that are eating in there and not noticing what's happening outside. They did that a couple times. I love that. I stuck a category, and I didn't tell you. What is it?

It's going to get acrimonious. The Rose from Titanic Award for character who sneaky sucks. Egon. Oh. Harold Ramos made a choice to never smile as Egon in this entire movie. Because he didn't think, he thought he wanted the character to be super serious. Molds and fungus. Yeah.

He's fine. I think him in. Like you said they were the Beatles. It's like, he's fine. Yeah, well, you need a wringo. He's fine. What's your problem? He's fine.

But like what he's, he's the brain of the operation. He invents all his stuff. Crack a smile. Maybe get two jokes in there or something. He delivers funny lines. He stripes, he's really good. When he's like Ray, the interest rate alone after five years is $95,000. He's funny.

Craig? I'm closer to that. He serves the right purpose. He's a role player. Okay. He's just setting picks. He's fine. What do you have for a perplex category?

the Dorfler's Door Award for how much of that hurt is when Vigman gets slimed Oh recovers really quickly for having a physical contact with a like a ghost And is it like What do you think?

Yeah, it's like super thick gooey stuff? Oh, Jesus Christ So yeah, I had Bill, Bill caught himself Bill was like, isn't it thick? Well, I just had to I had to remember her sitting next to it.

It's very true. I just, and then I was going to try and do a book about metals for this movie and it's the whole movie. Right. When he got slimed, did it paralyze him? That's what I'm asking. Yeah.

It seems like he was like, I can't move. It seems like the slime took over him. Deshaun Pen, I brought up my own pack award for excellence and on-screen smoking. Acroids. Acroids dangling cigarette thing that he pulls off where I don't know how he kept it in his mouth and apparently no adhesives or anything.

He just knew how to do it. There's a 59-second smoking super cup from this movie that I sent you guys. I watched it. Could have been longer. The Butch's Girlfriend Award for Weeklink of the film. Oh, this was tough. Come on, Van.

This was tough. I really could not think of a Wake Link, and I'm not going to give it to Ernie Hudson on this goddamn podcast. I really thought about this. I wanted to push myself to think about a Wake Link in the movie, and I could not think of one. Every character that speaks sort of... Are you saying this because you're like...

You don't want LeBron to talk bad about Memphis? Like you don't want to talk bad about running hudson? I mean, if you were going to give a weak link, that would be the sore thumb, right? And I'm not, but even he is not a weak link. I think he... Well, don't do a drive-by in any pots just because you don't want to speak the truth about Rudy Hudson.

It's not any pots. Any pots is an important character, too. I don't think, I really don't think the movie has a weak link. I'm being for real. I agree with him. And I don't have any caveats. Go ahead. Here we go.

I think it's Winston. See? Yeah. Let's do it. That's your podcast. Go ahead and do it. It's Ernie Hudson aside. It's not an Ernie Hudson thing to me.

You can't do that. You fucking... It's not an Ernie Hudson thing. Yeah. I just don't really understand why he shows up halfway through the movie, and I think the whole thing... It's too much work for three Ghostbusts. I agree with everything Craig said, but he just shows up... So they just need...

They would need ten more. Well, that's what... I mean, Andy Potts are saying, like, you promised me more else for him. I get in theory, they're like, he's going to be the every man. But I don't feel like they really nailed the character. It just, all of a sudden, he's just kind of there. He never really has his moment. Well, guess what?

I understood him. I got exactly what he was putting down. He's the one that talks about believing in God. Like, do you believe in God? He deepens the ghost buses. I love Jesus' style. I don't think they had a scene with him that explains, like, why I'm supposed to have a connection with him.

I would compare it to in the NBA season during the trade deadline when it's like, we need a shooter. It's like, we've got Caris Lavert. Here's Caris Lavert now. he's on the pistons. It's like, that's a great idea. Carisleberto gets, and then you never figure out

how to use Carislevert. This is their trade deadline middle of the movie pickup, but I don't think they totally figured out how to incorporate him. And I think he feels it too, which is why he seems to have a complicated relationship.

I think his character is, is probably the person hurt most by its Craig Horleback number of running time, where it's like, there's just not enough time. The obvious point is there's a moment in the mayor's office

when he's like, Your Honor, I want to speak for myself. And you can see Vakman peel off and be like, oh, my God, here we go. He's going to betray us. I just had more questions and answers with, like, does he like the other Ghostbusters? Well, he's there for a job. Yeah. Right.

I mean, he even says... Does he like, does he like... This is not worth another $5,000 a year. Right. I think they needed that character because the movie got increasingly fantastical as it went along. And it's overnight success. They do one job at the hotel, and then they're at fucking, like, studio 54 the next night.

It's cool to have like a little bit of the like, hey, I need a job and like I'll just do whatever you guys say if the money is right. And it's, but you, so you would say this was perfectly executed because I would disagree. I wouldn't say that it was perfectly executed. I wouldn't say that it's not pronounced enough to warrant criticism. I understand why they did it. I think it probably made sense in the room. I don't think they executed well enough in the movie. There you go.

He needed like either one more scene where I'm like, oh man, he really. needs this job. I didn't realize he had this hardship in his life or oh, his wife just died or something where I'm like, oh, now I'm attached to this guy. You want to kill a man's wife to make him put him in the movie. Haven't we given enough? You want to kill a man's

wife. They're in the prison scene. He seems like angry. Like he seems like he's mad at the guys. I'm like, don't be mad at my guys. I like the question, Bill. Why would you think that that guy in that situation would be mad because he met these guys and ended up in jail?

I know. Like, what do you think? What do you think could be... It's almost better if he leaves. And he's like, you guys are fucking crazy. I don't know. He's also the one who's like, you can't just go to the mayor

and be like, it's biblical end of times. Right. Yeah. So he's the one that's sort of tempering the movie because the movie becomes a full-on science fiction fantasy in the third act. Yeah. In the last 10, 50, 20 minutes, it's like that.

This was fun, though. What are you going to do? I can't wait to hear your hottest take. Jesus Christ. That's your week late. Christ. Christ, need one less job in the town. That's what Bill said.

I'm glad he's in the movie. I just thought there's like a scene missing. My weak link is Walter Pack. And it's not because I don't think William Atherton is basically the prick of the 80s and is an iconic asshole in these movies. Talk about in a second. But I think he could have used either a little bit more juice, like a slightly more earlier appearance, like maybe.

he just like his whole thing is like two scenes and it's like everything that happens could have happened by accident without the EPA throwing off the yeah it's a good point what's age the worst Ghostbusters too just a money grab

Yeah I think none of us feel great about it The handling of the franchise in general has probably been a little bit of all I have three more sequels Also shameless money grabs Yeah Across the board and the all-female

Ghostbusters is one of the worst movies in the 2010s. It's really bad. It's just bad. It's a bad movie. Well, I'll tell you what I thought. I thought it was a very important movie. I thought it was a movie that had to be made. I thought it was movie for its time. I wanted to see a film. Are you running for mayor?

I'm fucking with you. It sucked. But like, I don't know. I remember trying to... He was terrible. And I remember trying to... He's just awful. I remember trying to woke myself into loving it. Like, I'm sitting down... There were really good people in that.

Hey, hey, the movie, everybody is dead-ass nice at what they do. The writer, the director, all of them together, it just didn't fucking work. Did you watch either of the Jason Wrightman movies? After Female Ghostbusters, I was out. Okay. Yeah, I was like, you know what, I feel the same way about a lot of this stuff. If I remember correctly, the thing is weird about them is like they are not without some charms. Like, Carrie Coon's really good in it, but like you're just kind of like, why is this a Ghostbusters movie?

It's a full-on, like. It's not like it's, I mean, it's too much telling on a screen for it used to be like totally whack, but the fucking shit didn't work. And the ghostbusters that they made, the subsequent ones, the first one I actually kind of enjoyed. I actually thought it was pretty cool. What the sequel? The first sequel that they made. Yeah, with all the goo underneath the city and stuff. I actually enjoyed that.

Okay. I had for What's Age the Worst. Really tough movie for cable for about 15 years because of the Pan and Scan. Oh. because, and you can see it now on the wide TVs. This was filmed like a wide movie. And on the Pan and Scan, you just miss a lot of stuff. And everything feels really tight.

This is how they did it with the square TVs. And it just was always like not the best watch. And now it's a great watch again because the TVs got wider. But I thought it suffered for a few years. A couple of visual gags here that I, like, I only noticed like this time around where when Dana first comes in to the firehouse and she goes up to Andy's, he pots and then Murray just like pops up in the back of the frame and runs over the

half wall it's great. We mentioned the I Want a New Drug Controversy and then the only other one is William Atherton claims he became reviled after the movie. Well, I mean, then he was such a bad guy and people would be like, Hey, DeQuest! Yeah. And just like we're really mad at him for a few years.

Yeah. And then he's like, fuck it. And doubles down and does die hard. I have to say this. I know, you know, people think that I have no taste in movies. I love Ghostbusters, too. Love it. Didn't you just start with I thought it was okay

and now you've gotten to I love it? No, no, no. In just like five seconds? I don't think that I, if I was saying I thought it was okay, then like I love Ghostbusters too. Okay. Like, it's hard for me to look at the movie as bad. I got my nostalgia glasses on.

The one thing that age poorly in this movie is some of the establishing shots look boarded. They look like... Oh, yeah. Yeah, like, that is always a thing that stamps a movie in the time. Like some of the establishing shots in the movie, they look sort of animated and rendered in a way.

I think that there's a bunch of stuff at the end of the movie that's basically matte paintings and stuff like that. Yeah, and they use those as establishing shots and like that stuff never age as well to me when they do stuff like that. You didn't have anything else, right? Just Peter Vankman using his position as a professor to extract sexual favors out of students and clients?

I just thought that was part of the job. By the way, I guess you question. When Vankman is in there with the girl, With the psychic? With the psychic girl, right? Hilarious scene. Wavy lines and the whole not. When he tells Ray to come back, right, in an hour and an hour and a half, does Vateman think that he's about to fuck?

Yes. In the like, well, if that's the case, that age, tor, terribly. And by the way, an hour and a half. Told you. Nine minutes. That's the floor. Roughly hand and Rubenick Perchurch, overacting award. the person playing Gozer

Who was that? That's a good question They said they wanted Grace Jones and she turned it down Yeah, I think it was person you get when you can't get So they made someone look exactly like Grace Jones In terms of the aesthetic Oh, Van You have a flex category

Next category, another list Slot via Yovan Played Gozer I mean, there's no picture of her All right, Van's flex category's got a list Top five dick actors of the 80s. You see these guys, you know that they're playing Dix. Oh, okay.

Oh, like actual Dicks. Like, they're not actually Dicks in real life. I'm sure these guys are lovely men, but these guys play the assholes of the 80s. Okay. Okay. Number five, Thomas F. Wilson. Oh, Biff. Biff.

Yeah. Back to the Future, One, Back to the Future, Two. Now, he doesn't have the Dick catalog of some of these other guys, but Biff is just all the time. Hall of Fame. first ballot, Dick. Not only that, Biff, psychopath, killer. Biff wants to kill.

Bad person. Bad person. Unethical gambler. Bad person. Number four, Paul Gleeson. Yeah. The Breakfast Club, trading places. Oh, yeah. He plays... I make $30,000 a year. These kids are going to respect me. The top three is where it really

gets tight. Because the top three... Because you need Atherton in there. Yeah. Number three, William Zapka. Okay. Billy Z. Johnny Lawrence, karate kid, just one of the guys.

And Chaz. Back to school. Chas. Right. Yeah, back to school. Top two? A dick diver. A dick diver.

Top two, we basically got LeBron and Jordan. Yeah. It depends on what you want. And it's Atherton and who? Spader. Oh, yeah. Adder. Like, it depends on what you.

like. I mean, to me, Spader is playing at another level. Yeah. You think Spader is playing at another level? Yes. But when you think about Atherton, though, Spader's number two for me. Pretty in pink, baby boom, whatever movie he was in. Because he could slide the other way, too, and be a decent guy.

That Atherton's like, could only be a dick. Atherton, Ghostbusters, die hard. Don't forget, real genius. Also, in real genius as the terrible professor. Oh, that's right. In real genius as well. like, that's three in terms of the movies I love. All time, heavyweight assholes.

Do you consider Spader a Dick in Sex Lise and Videotape? Kind of. Kind of. Yeah, but yeah. Kind of want to do that. It's kind of a romantic. I kind of want to do sex lies and videotape. What do you mean, kind of? It's on the list.

That's my mom's favorite movie. Yeah. Your mom's favorite movie? Yes. The fuck I'm talking about? Yeah. Yes, it is. That's a Baton Rouge classic.

Would she do it with us? No. Okay. But she's asked for. repeatedly when we're doing it. Okay. She thinks it's the height of cinema. That and Annie Hall, she wants us to do that one, too.

She can't believe we haven't done a Woody Allen movie yet. Bill's Mom Month? Bill's Mom? Can we get that sponsor? Who would sponsor that? Hallmark. Hallmark? Yeah.

Yeah. It would be alcohol. With alcohol sponsor. Josh wines. Thanks you. So Atherton, number one. I got Atherton number one. I feel like real genius.

him over the top. Because when I was thinking about it, I'd have to think about this. Zabka did have the trilogy. I think that there's also like a definitional thing because you're going with like dramas and comedies here and I wonder whether or not in the Schwarzenegger 80s action universe.

Like Robert Patrick. Yeah, but he couldn't have been in a dick many times. I thought about Gene Hackman, who also tended in this decade to play on. The only one who feels like he's missing is Bert Young because he paid Polly the worst character. But I guess you're making a distinction between dicks and villains.

Yeah. Not villains, but dick. Because the guy who plays Cherry in another 48 hours, he's the bad guy in Toy Soldiers. Oh, yeah, yeah. But that's more of a villain. Andrew Davy. Yeah, that's more of a...

And Robert Davy is a big one for the 80s. Robert Davy was huge. That was the Goonies. William Forsyth could be in there, too. I think you'd land in the right spot. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. Hottest take a word.

I'll go last because I think you guys are going to get up and leave. I think that... that Ghostbusters is the best movie to ever come out of Saturday Night Live. Ooh. And I will include not only movies based on sketches, which is how we probably usually think of SNL movies, but let's go elf,

let's go bridesmaids, let's go Wayne's World, Tommy Boy, like, I'll include a bunch now, Austin Powers, but when you get to, you know, is inglorious bastards this Saturday Night Live movie because Mike Myers is in it, no.

It has to have like at least a couple of people from SNL, and have like an S&L sensibility. And it has to be like relatively close enough to when they were on the show. Yes. It can't be like 28 years later. But I think this is the best movie to come out of Saturday Night Live.

I think it's clear. The question is what's two actually? Because like when I think about all the movies that we could compare it to, there's a huge, huge gap. I mean, Wayne's World and the rest of those movies were like phenomenal, but there's a huge gap. Trading places count.

I think so. And I think there's a world in which Anchorman counts. I mean, that would be that would be the competition. I would say it's clearly the most successful of any S&L movie ever. Anchorman, even if you were to count Anchorman, it's just like in no way, shape, or form, fucking with Ghostbushes.

It was almost like a slow burn, Anchorman. Yeah. That's pretty good, CR. What are we leaving? I feel like... No, I mean, there's a bunch of the Farrell movies have to be mentioned. Yeah, I mean, Stepbrothers in Talladega,

but a lot of those movies are like... There's a million Sandler movies. Like, Happy Gilmore has to be in there. Yeah. Eddie Murphy movies All the Eddie movies But Eddie movies It's just Eddie in those movies

It's like they come from like a creative nexus Right you need like at least two Yeah I think so It's also lasted the test of time better than any SNL movie It's better than Blues Brothers It's better than Blues Brothers is more culturally expired Ghostbusters is still super popular and famous

Huh Yeah Okay In a house it's really only Belushi in that so that it doesn't go What's your hottest take? What right do the ghostbusters have to put ghosts in jail? I never thought about, are the ghostbusters the fucking police?

I think to myself, like, guess it's my Uncle Mark, rest in peace, right? Let's say that my Uncle Mark, who spent a lot of time and go to state penitentiary, passed away, wants to come back and visit me, what right do the Ghostbusters have to incarcerate ghosts? First of all. It's like an immigration issue for you. In jail. If ghosts were, if this was happening in 20s, 26, we now know how you would be tweeting about Ghostbusters.

I would have to ask the question. The reality, I've never thought about this before in my life because I think my brain was regular before and now it's warped. But like, I thought about it. You get to go and a police action against a ghost, tied a ghost up. The woman that was in the library, that was clearly her job. She was shushing people. She used to work there.

Yeah, what was slimer doing? Yeah, what, like, I'm just saying, like, when he's hanging around, look, if the ghosts are acting unruly, that's one thing. You talk to the ghosts, give the ghost therapy, whatever you do. Well, this is where the EPA comes in. But what I'm saying, the EPA, environment, who, what gives them the right to build a private prison and put the ghosts in there? We haven't really vetted what these guys are doing. It's a private transaction between the person who calls the Ghostbusters and the Ghostbusters.

Because the Ghostbusters are like, when he's like, I'm not going to pay for this, they're like, well, we'll just let the ghost back out. Well, yeah, right. So the Ghostbusters run a nuclear power private prison for ghosts, and I don't know, like, was that a good use of city resources? I don't think that's right. Yeah. Well, you know my theory with ghosts. What?

You got to just talk to them and get to a good place with them. You don't become adversarial with the ghosts. All that's going to do is make them want to fight you. You would be like more of a social outreach kind of ghost buster. I would be like pro-ghost, friendly ghosts. Like, how can we help you guys? Like what do we do? Now, obviously there are some ghosts, you know, ghosts possessing people and all stuff.

you got to bring Constantine in and do all of that stuff. But, like, for the most part, I don't know that they have the right to do what they was doing. And it kind of pissed me off this time. Like, get out of here. I have a second how to take real quick one. Dana's a fucking gold digger. What do you mean? Dana very clearly distvankman when he first came to her apartment.

Oh, that he wasn't in the stratosphere for her? Yeah, she very clearly... Do you think she's dating the guy who's snort naprin? She was dating. him. But you know what changed? What changed is she saw Vangman on TV. He became a small business owner. Vainman became a small

business owner. He became a celebrity. And even when he comes up to her the next time, when she sees him, she smiles. Because now he's famous. You know what? I respect it. Yeah. She's a classical violinist. She's tall and she's hot. And

she's not going to date some discount. She's just making her way through the New York City 80s. She's got like guys who run restaurants coming after her and hedge fund guys. She's got like high end. Hawaiian people. Gordon Gickle is at the goddamn orchard. Like Bernard King made her run in her.

Like she's got a lot of options. Lawrence Taylor's called her. Do you think she dated Bernard King, but then the knee injuries kind of took him out of the mix for her? Then she was out. Yeah. Did she go for Dennis Peck? Yeah, Dennis Peck.

So what's your how to stake? Yeah, you guys aren't going to be happy. I think if Sigourney and Kathleen Turner switch movies in 1984, everyone wins. So what's the... Sororne does remancing the stone and Jewel de Nile and Kathleen Turner does Ghostbusters

1 and 2. And this movie goes to another level. And when she's possessed, I think I'm dead. I think in 1984, that's it. I have like a testicle explosion. I'm just dead. With possessed Kathleen Turner.

It's like, what happened to your son? He died. It's a weird story. He exploded. What is leading you to want to, like, improve Ghostbusters by 5%? What are you doing? The whole point of the hottest take award. This is a hot take.

You forget what character. I just think you switch Kathleen Turner and Sigourney. So you want Kathleen Turner and Eddie Murphy. I think Sigourney would have been amazing in Romance in the Stone. Sure. She would have really worked. It would have really worked. I don't know how well Kathleen Turner works.

Then does Sororrii Weaver does War of the Roses? Like, does she take the Turner's spot? She does War of the Rose. Roses. Yeah. We just do some switcharoos. Maybe Kathleen Turner's and Dave.

You forget what type of time Kathleen Turner was. I didn't forget. That's why this was my hot's take. Damn. She was Kathleen Turner in the mid-'80s is, to me,

all-time pantheon. She just oozed sexuality in every moment of her life. Your testicle would explode. That's what you said? I said there would have been a testicular explosion. But why?

Why? Why? But do you feel like a part of this? Do you feel like she was maybe too smoldering for this movie? Yeah, she's too hot for Ghostbusters. But the thing is, she was miscast or remains in the stone because she plays like this Mouncy Romance novelist who gets unleashed by Michael Douglas swashbuckling this adventure.

And it's like, that's a better Sigourney River role. Kathleen Turner as like, I'm a hot classical violinist and now I'm possessed by Zul. Are you just looking at pictures of Kathleen Turner for the rest of the podcast? I'm gone. Yeah, man. We had to take one more break. You try to rally Van back.

I never really, yeah. All right, casting what ifs? There's a ton, including Chevy Chase claiming in 2018 that he turned down Vankman. Yeah. Again, all I have is the sniff test for these. So which one of these? That one didn't smell right to me. Let me ask you this.

Do you believe Chevy Chase and Bill Murray have had a weird relationship for 50 years? was a phone call. And he's like, yeah, I could have done ghostbusters. I turned it down. But I believe there's also, like, in the half-ass internet research for this, there is just a real, like, Bill Murray is not in your movie until he is in the first day's shoot. Do we have backup plans? Yes.

Was there a phone call? Possibly. I'm going to read you the what-ifs that are listed on the internet for Vankman. Just give me the one that you think is the most interesting. Okay, cool. Michael Keaton, Chevy Chase, Tom Hanks. Robin Williams. I don't believe that one.

Steve Gutenberg. No way. And Richard Pryor. No. Okay. So I believe Keaton. I don't believe Hanks. Keaton was the one that I thought was the most interesting.

I think Keith is the best one. I think he made a ton of sense, and I think he would have been good in the movie. And I'm a pro-Michael Keaton. Keaton has played versions of this role. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's the lies cracking. He's basically this in Gung-ho.

Yeah. Yeah. As you know, Billy Blaze Jowski, I think, is one of the funniest characters in the history of anything. And I think he could have just been Billy Blazez Javsky. From Night Shift. From Night Shift. Yeah. The one that I was most interested in was the Egon rumors.

Christopher Walken, John Lithgow, Christopher Lloyd, Jeff Goldblum. Goldblum seems like he turned it down. Did he? That's what, that was in the research. But then you read the Reitman story and it's like, yeah, it was Arthry guys. But it does seem like Ramos eventually became Igor. But Egon, yeah.

Egon. Who's Igor? The guy in the Nets? Igor Damon He eventually became Igor Damon on the Nets Egon I love that those are the two things

you've got your brain But I wonder if there was a moment when he didn't think he was going to be in it Goldblum I think is really good A really good choice The Walkins is interesting Goldblum could have done it in his I think Wachin shoes up too much scenery

But you want Eddie Murphy to play Winston I know Well that's Eddie Murphy Okay But what version of Wockin would you want Would you want a deer hunter It's basically Annie Hallwalking. Would you want roulette?

Guys, when the deer hunter were we do that. Have you seen Deer Hunter? No. Oh, we talked about this. Yeah. Talk about a movie that obliterates the Horlebeck scale.

I think it doubles a lot of Pittsburgh. Yeah. But it moves quick, though. Lots happening. Everything. Apparently, Daryl Hannah, Denise Crosby,

Julie Roberts, and Kelly LeBrock, I'll audition for Dana. Julia Roberts? She was too young. In 1984? Yeah. What about LeBrock?

I don't know if I believe that. LeBrock's interesting. John Candy offered Lewis totally turned it down. Wanted to do Lewis with a German accent. They definitely went hard after John Candy. And he just didn't get it. And then Sandra Bernhard turned down Janine. I think we wind up in the right place with everything.

Right. And then Paul Rubens was allegedly going to be Gozer for a second. I don't know if I believe that one. All of these, I just don't know if I believe. That's that guy. So is William Atherton of that guy? Or is he William Atherton? I think you can throw him in there.

I think it's probably that guy. Yeah. Is he that guy to you? He is a that guy to me. Okay. But he's that guy from Diehard or that guy from Ghostbusters. Correct. I think David Martin Lee's who plays the mayor.

He's a really good that guy. Jennifer Runyon was a stealth, that guy. She was in Up the Creek, Charles in Charge whole season. Key 9-0 episode. And she played Cindy Brady in a very event. Brady Christmas all in like five years. Dionne Waiters Award. Moranis isn't too much.

No, he's not. He's in three scenes. No, he's in the whole last 20 minutes for a thing. I got him or Andy Potts. I got to talk to you for a second about Dion. Dion isn't about a screen time limit. It's about what you do with your screen time. He's like the sixth lead in the movie.

Come on. The movie got six characters. Help me out here. No, he's cool. right. He's in it for like 45 minutes. He meets her outside of her apartment. He has his party. Yeah. Gets chased. Then he does Vince Corfo.

He has the whole party scene. He has the whole chase scene. We didn't even talk about enough where he's just like, do you want some coffee? Yes, have some. And he's smelling the fucking landline. It's so funny. So is there any Hudson eligible? Yeah, but Ernie Hudson is not funnier than fucking Rick Moranx. He doesn't. Yeah. You want to double down. All right. If you want to make Moranis eligible, that's fine. What do you think, Craig? Is he eligible? I just looked it up.

He's in, this is according to AI. Eight to ten minutes, eight to ten minutes of this movie. That can't be right. Eight to ten minutes, that's it? No, it says he's in roughly eight to ten minutes of screen time. If you pay for the pro version, can you get an actual runtime? Claude or chat GPT. Would you have any pots?

No, I think I'd have Maranis. I just want to make sure he's in this movie. I think she's lovely. Yeah, she's fine. She's good. She's good. I like to read. Yeah.

Her accent is crazy. Her accent is crazy. Crazy. Out of control. Hidden on Egon. All of that. Yeah, she's good. I love her.

Recasting Couch Director of City. The John Candy one really stuck in my head. Okay. He ends up doing Splash, so he's represented in 1984 in a good way. But it's just a really interesting twist if he's that character. I don't know what's better because I think Moranis is great. Yeah. Craig did his flex.

half fast internet research. Columbia had Frank Price, who ended up becoming a great teammate of Michael Eisner's and then died tragically in a plane crash when he was the number two guy at Disney. He became the head of Universal. After he bought the script and believed in the script so much,

he sold Columbia the title for $500,000 plus 1% of the film profits. There you go. Smart son of a bitch. Fucking Frank Price. Smart dude. Richard Edlin did all the special effects used part of the budget to found boss film studios because there were like no special effects studios back then

and they advanced $5 million and started this whole thing. The marshmallow main outfit designed by Bill Bryan who modeled his walk after a Godzilla. 18 foam suits cost almost $600,000 and he had to have a separate air supply because the whole thing was so toxic. Marshmallow was raining down the crowd with shaving cream. Yeah.

Gave a lot of people raven. But you know what? I was thinking like... 1984 was great. That would be so dope if it was actually marshmallows and you were just like an extra on the set of Ghostbusters.

Just picking marshmallow out of your hair for five years. The original library ghost puppet was too scary and had to be given in the Fright Night movie. Oh. Interesting. I like Fright Night.

You mentioned the Bill Moore. There is a deleted scene where Ray has a sexual encounter with a female ghost they decided to cut. Sorry, man. Wait a minute. Well, Ray does have a...

He does have a sexual account. He gets a BJ from a... Well, not a BJ, but he gets his zipper. His zipper took it off. But I think there's like... Oh, that's a runner, like a running gag in the... I think it goes further. Oh, okay.

And then the rooftop, the final confrontation was at a sound stage that required 50,000 amps of electricity to properly light it. And Columbia had to shut down all of their other stages. Well, they did this because it was so much electricity. Jesus. Iron. Like, almost a parallel of the movie.

Apex Mountain. more piece of internet research. From the Vanity Fair, kind of not an oral history, but it's like a making of Ghostbusters piece. When they're basically waiting to find out whether Murray's going to do this movie. And they're not sure until like the day of the movie. So Murray flies back to New York after the Razors Ed shoot. This is from Vanity Fair. Ramis and Reitman picked him up at LaGuardia Airport to show him the rework script. Quote, Bill flew in on a private plane an hour late,

Ramis said in the 1985 interview, he came through the tournament, with a stadium horn, one of those bullhorns that plays 80 different fight songs, and he was addressing everyone in sight with this thing.

They had to drag him out and take him to a restaurant in Queens where they showed him the script and he had no input and just said, I trust you guys. He does the movie.

That would have been good for the Steven Segal category. Apex Mountain Murray, I think yes. Okay. Yeah. Could make an argument for ground hall today,

but yeah. Accurid. I think Groundhog Day is a good... No, he's... After this, it's like... I mean, he didn't work for four years because this movie is so huge. Rihalh Day becomes like this, like,

gigantic, huge... Accord. Probably trading places. Well, he wrote this, though, and he basically, like, kind of is the custodian of the Ghostbusters franchise, so I think that in some ways

this is his... It's his apex. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Groundhawk Day, to me, is Bill Murray. It's Bill Murray. Seagorney, Weaver?

No. Nah, I don't know. Aliens. Aliens. 55 Central Park West. Yes. Ramis? Uh.

Yes. I guess. Probably doing being a director. It would be this or Groundhog. Yeah. Probably Groundhog there. Yeah. State puff marshmallows?

Yes. Yes. Real brand? Is it? Yeah. Is it? I thought it was. Didn't look up.

Ghost movies? I have that as, to me, I think it is. This are ghosts. This are ghosts. This is the debate. that I'm here for. Is it ghost or ghost busters for the number one ghost movie of all time?

Did you do ghost with us when we did that and rewatched? Not. That is you mean Amanda where you said that this is your idea of the afterlife. Yeah, I thought that was, I thought what happens in ghost

is what happens in hell. Is it about at the end? When they bring Willie Lopez, they pull them down, the shadows come out and pull them down in the ground. Right. That's what happens.

Oh, wow. Okay. I think they really, they figured it out. And like, what happened? And then you look at your dead self and then the fucking shadows

come out and pull you down. It was very sad scene. Which one is it? I think it's Ghostbusters. Ghostbusters or ghost? I think it's Ghostbusters. I would have put Poltergeist in the running too.

Poltergeist is cool. But Poltergeist is cool. I think it's ghostbusters, but it is like, it's razor thin to me. Ghost is like such a big thing. Some other people might be like it's paranormal activity

or it's, It's conjuring or something like that. Paranormal activity is really good. I like that movie. New York City movies? No. No. Ernie Hudson?

Oz. What else was he? What's his biggest thing? Well, he plays the special needs gardener and hand that rocks the cradle. Yeah. He was in Oz for a couple years. Oz. He plays the warden.

That's right. He's good at Oz. I like Ernie Hudson. Yeah, don't try to stay on that side. I remember on the record. It's like Ernie Hudson. I don't think that part was Ernie Hudson's fault. Ernie is the man, but this is probably what he's best known for.

I think so. He's one of the Ghostbusters. Is he in the sequel? Yes. Does he have a larger role? Basically the same, a little bit larger. Rick Moranis? No.

No. It's honey I shrunk to kids. New York City Library scenes? Eh, might be. Yeah, I think you're, New York City Public Library, probably. The Cedricotene. Never heard of that before this movie. Anything else?

Turning into dogs. Oh, yeah. Could it be? Think about other... I mean, turn into dogs. I mean, there's twilight where you turn it to a wolf. There's other stuff, but it's just... Yeah.

I was going to say, it's hard to articulate what exactly is the Apex Mountain, but one of the things that bums me out about modern architecture is you're just never going to get a story like the occult architect who built in, like, a special metal to make... make it a superconductor of paranormal stuff.

Like, it's like, it's like, got five condos above a Trader Joe's. Like, nothing's going to happen there. Yeah. It's good point. Ghost combat. Last one. Is this the apex of ghost combat?

I'm asking. Because there's actually ghost. Ghost, fighting with ghosts, tussling with a ghost. I would say Ice Cube and Ghost of Mars. This is a pretty good ghost combat. I think it is. Hruzer, Hanks.

I have Hanks. Scorseser, Spielberg. This is tough. No, it's not. You don't want to see. Marty's version of this New York City? Travis Bickle becomes

cocaine at the end instead of marshmallows. You guys are so fucking boring with this one. The Vane Lathen Award did this movie need more black people? Nah. Picking Nits. Is Dana's apartment too nice? Feels like it is.

That feels like an apartment that it's like Mimi Rogers's apartment and someone to watch over me level quality. Isn't that like the single most coveted spot in New York City? Central Park West has always been one of the great, you know, real estate. Like if I could pick any apartment location, it might be that literal apartment. But I think she's got a one bedroom. Like, it's not like she's living in a penthouse apartment.

It is very nice. I think she comes from money. Because, like, I think, like what she calls her mother. Yeah, that's why she's like Bankman. She doesn't like Bankman because he doesn't have any bread. She's a concert cellist or whatever. She probably went to all the finest schools and fucking Sorbonne, wherever you go. Wherever you go.

She's with Julia, or wherever you go. And so she went to all that. and that's what she's doing. That's why she's stuck up. Goes bringing back down to Earth. Well, I had for another edge about Dana. I didn't like that part, man. Like, don't front on me.

When I come over there to help you with the ghost situation, and then after I blow up, you want to be down with me. He's turkey-based in her apartment and is like, when can we go get Chinese food? That's facts. I had next pick and Nitz. Why did Dana leg Bankman, what turned it? But we already talked about this.

Yeah. Yeah. Probably bossed up. Probably a little cash. My only other one is, I just think hundreds of people would have been. killed by falling debris during the ending. All the people that were in the bottom of like looking up,

they're all dead. Right. Just things are falling down and hitting them. What do you have, for picking nits? Yeah. You know, I really love your point about like what gave them the right and would there be any oversight?

Furthermore, like the New York City being in a paranormal pandemonium, I think would just be a much bigger deal. I know we see a brief moment of like the National Guard coming out. Yeah. But I just don't think they would leave it up. to these four guys who got kicked out of NYU or Columbia. Yeah, this was a city that protested the premiere

of the Warriors. I think they would have the paranormal activity would have been tough. Why are the Ghostbusters allowed to have a blueprint in jail? Oh, yeah, dude. Why do they have, they're in jail, they're looking at a blueprint. That was movie jail, though,

where it's like a big, it's almost like a big recess. They take your stuff and they put it in the thing, but they're letting them fully plan. Okay, holding cell, whatever. They had other motherfuckers in there. I don't even know if those dudes have gotten processed. Why are they allowed to have a blueprint in there?

To look at a blueprint and stuff in there. It's a good one. Sequel, prequel, prestige, TV, all podcast, Untouchable. Sadly, we got sequels. This should have been an untouchable. Sure. We should have been done. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins,

Fergie the florist, Ryan Rucco, Cuss Johnson, Zane Lowe. What do you got, Ciar? I got Zane, when Gozer shows up. It's just like Zane, Goza, Goza, the Gozarian. It's great to see you, man. Or woman, because you take many forms, just like your music. Your music is undefinable and so are you.

But I have to say, good evening. And as a duly designated representative of the city, county, and state of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension and we'll be listening. Zane was wordy. Yeah.

Orty Zane this time. I want to introduce Shaquille O'Neill as the inside the NBA analyst analyzing the Ghostbusters movie and just saying I thought the best person movie was

Gozer the Garzary. And then everybody kind of goes, okay, cool. Then they go to commercial. The others. Just won Oscar who gets it. The song? Bill Murray.

Bankman. Bankman for Best Actor? The song that ripped off Huey Lewis gets Best Oscar? They didn't know at the time. But Bankman. I got a bankman. So you've Bill Murray winning the Oscar.

Well, who won in 1980? What was that year? I'm going to look it up. Is it going to be like raging war? Not in my nose. Gandhi? 84. Can I guess?

Gandhi, no. Chiris of Fire. I just called to say, I love you from Woman in Red. Oh, that won the Oscar. No. F. Murray, Abraham, and Amadeus. It's fine.

Jeff Bridges and Starman, Albert Finney under the volcano. Tom Holtz. And Amadeus. Honestly, Sam Watersden, the Killings Fields was really good. He's really good.

I'm just saying I'm not as far off as you think. I like it, CR. I respect it. Yeah. I think there could have been room for Albert Finney under the volcano. I don't know what the fuck was going on there. Yeah,

that a bad call. Thanks, bud. Probably in answerable questions. We just have to play out, is this movie better or worse with Belushi and then Bill Murray? And the answer is it's worse. Yeah. I love Belushi. That was one of my guys. I do think he needed this in the Belushi IMDB if he hadn't lost his mind

and, you know, died of a drug overdose. this was the kind of movie that I think would have been great for him. He just didn't have it. He didn't have like a leading man trying to be like dashing and just nothing like this. Which is probably why Bill Murray was writing it for him.

He died on his climb. He was still on his climb when he passed. Yeah, yeah. I think this would have been a huge one for him. Similar would you rather would be, would you rather if this movie come out five years later, six years later,

slightly better special effects. now because I really feel like 84 was the quintessential year for this to come out I think it's like perfect timing of it the Floyd Gondali butter in my ass and lollipops in my mouth award for something I just enjoy the keymaster

just a great nickname why are we doing how was KD not the keymaster oh KD to keymaster yeah well they got it if you do a key master you have to also have the gate master Gatekeeper. So it's like... So Jason Tatum could have been

the keymaster and Jalen Brown could have been the gatekeeper and the gatekeeper. The gatekeeper and the keymaster. Yeah. But you have to have people that like each other. And you have to have people

who know Ghostbusters. So you can't have those... Maybe like, yeah, that could be Steph Castle and Victor Wehman Yawa. Yeah. You have to have teammates. Like who would have been the key master?

Wemby's the gatekeeper. He's closing the door at the back of the play. Keymaster is really good. Yeah. I think really feel like we missed that. My Floyd is Bill Murray working

a crowd. So when they first get out at Ecto, when they get up to Dana's apartment at the end, and he's just like, you know him, you love him,

it's Ray Stance, and he's just like, this guy has the city in the palm of his ears. This is crazy. Mine is the fireplace poles that you slide down. Oh, fuck.

Oh, yeah, good one. Well, like, let's go. Check at that. I can put that way up there. I love that joy. Remember the old Batman show? Yeah.

Where they would start off. as Bruce rain and then slide down. What are we doing? Do any of these hype houses have fucking fire poles? I haven't seen any. You know what happened? The polls turned into use for strippers. Also, like somebody fell off.

We stop thinking about them being conventional, going from up here to down here and just thinking about women dancing on them. Women dance. I've seen some amazing things. The secret handshake club memorial memorabilia you'd want from this movie. For me, it's one of the proton packs. there's got to be four total.

And we can't do ecto 1, the car, right? No, but that car is pretty great. It's also great when he pulls up and Murray's like, you can't park that here. You can't park that here. And the look on Murray's face when he tells him how much he paid for the car. Yeah.

They're on him and he just like gives that look is like $4,800. He needs new shocks, new brakes, new brick pads. Yeah, how much, how much? $4,800 and then a look that he gives. That car is still out there. Yeah. They have it out there when you go see it.

I was one of a proton packs. I would do Ghostbusters jumpsuit. Yeah. Coach Finstock, Mr. Miyagi, we're best, worst, life lesson. Ghosts are fucking real. That's my lesson. Don't underestimate them, Van.

I'm not. You know, I believe in it. Best double feature choice? I have big trouble in Little China, which I probably have picked before, but has a similar comic sci-fi element to it. I had the Blues Brothers. Staying the side of the long...

It's a long... It's a long... I had cop. Let's just go 84. Beverly's Cop The James Cop. Oh, I think about the James Wood. No, the James Wood.

Beverly's Cop would be amazing. Who won the movie? Murray. Peter Vinkman won the movie, my friend. Bill Murray. There's a Reitman case. Yeah, for sure. Looks better than it's very well directed.

This John Landis? Meatball, stripes. He's now with this movie, becomes not only the premier comedy director of that generation, but as a director and producer, it just becomes a fucking juggernaut. Goes right to Arnold

Schwarzenegger, which is the kindergarten cop and has this crazy run from, what, 79 to 93, all the way through Dave, 15 years, and Ghostbusters is the NBA Finals MVP for him. Because you think about it, not

I'm not slagging John Landis necessarily, but like if John Landis is directing this movie. There's like a 20-minute car crash scene in New York City. Yeah. Like you get like way more staypuff marshmallow man than you need. There's like, there's just a lot more action. And Reitman just seems to know exactly why people will respond to this film.

Yeah. I had a bad job. I would go Redmond, but you guys, who do you have for this? I would go Murray. Murray carries the hell out of this movie. Not that it's like, he's the only reason it's good, but he is cooking. If somebody was like, why do you think Bill Murray's funny, I'd show him Ghostbusters. Yeah.

It also feels the. like the lines were not written and he was coming up with them, which I think you also have to give him credit for. That's kind of my takeaway. Seeing this movie again, because it had been a really long time, it's crazy to me how movies like this

that feel so like, I don't want to say unfinished, but movies that feel like to kind of make it up as they go where it's like the script wasn't really finished, Bill Mary just showed up last second. There was something I was reading about Annie Potts just like showed up the day she needed to shoot.

They had like no costume for her. She took like the hairdresser's glasses and put them on and then just wore those for the whole movie. It's just, it's so haphazard the way these things are thrown together. And it's just, and now those glasses are kind of like... iconic.

They're very... Yeah. Yeah, and it's just crazy how messy these movies were of this era and how they worked. And now, that just wouldn't happen. Now everything would be so finished and glossy and purposeful.

And safe. And safe. And I think ultimately, what's age the best from this movie is just friends being in movies together. Which is just like, you don't really see. Because you're just friends in movies. That's a good call.

It is a good call. Let's make a movie. We should. Let's do it. What would our movie be about? The four of us. Four of us? Trying to find a bar in San Francisco after a live show.

That actually would be a really good start for a one crazy night movie. Having to walk six-tenths of a block downhill and Mallory's dying and then something happens. No, it would be we record a podcast in a house from a famous movie and then something happens in the house. The Boogie Night's House. Yeah. We're in the Boogie Night's House. Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Or we're in the Halloween house recording a rewatchable. I think it's a one crazy night. Yeah. It's one crazy night. And it's clearly San Francisco because San Francisco closes. It's one of the five nights of the year that you're like, we're drinking tonight. Yeah. You know what the name of the movie is?

Dan's ordering pizzas. We order a pizza bar. The movie is called. What was a cocktail that you kept getting? I can't remember. Banana is a banana something. Banana something. Banana ram.

Banana ram. Banana ram. The name of the, the name of the movie is live show. And it's about. Live show. It's about doing a live show and a place is to be. big live show and everything goes wrong. That's the name of the movie, live show.

Yeah, we learned that night when Van says, I shouldn't tell you this because I've had too much to drink. That's a great bar, though. It's like fucking buckle up at that point. Peacekeeper, that was a good bar. Peacekeeper. It's a great bar. Shout out.

One of the only bars in San Francisco open past 930 at night. Everywhere. I've said that to a couple of people who stared at me like I was out of my mind. So obviously we were in the wrong place. We're probably in the wrong part of town, but whatever they're talking about, they're full of shit. because we would go places they'd be like,

it's 915, get the fuck out. And then we went and got coffee. What was the name of that place? Coffee movement? Coffee movement. Waded it online for 10 minutes, which violates everything I believe in.

It's close, though. Literally everything. And then they only had 10 ounce cups. So you got two. So I had to get two 10 ounce coffees. It's really funny. And guess what? It was fucking delicious.

It was worth it. I would wait on that line again. I had a fun time. Man, I rode the trolley. We went to the game. Just because the best. It was amazing. When we were going back?

Crowd was great. Crowd was great. The theater was great. Yeah, great theater. His maker ended up being great. Tony V. Making moves with the Giants line on. We were at that one place that was at the top of the hotel.

Top of the, top of the mark. Top of the mark. Had drinks, beautiful. We were starving. Kicked out. No food. They looked at us like we were the fucking outsiders just walked in. It's definitely a secret handshake club city.

and we didn't know the handshake. For food and bars. But I still like San Francisco. VanC.R. Thank you. Craig Gahow, thank you. Thanks to Eduardo as well. Anybody else?

Matt? Matt. Shout out. All right. Next month, it's going to be a comedy month. Netflix is a joke. We're doing a bunch of comedies in May. So stay tuned.

Thanks, guys. For the problem.