The Rewatchables - ‘Happy Gilmore’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and The Safdie Brothers

Episode Date: December 10, 2019

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All right, here we go. Quite a large and economically diverse crowd here at the Mickelope Invitational. The rewatchables is coming up next. You all ready for it? Meet him Gilmore. He was a hockey player. Don't you ever touch my puck. Now he's going from the lynx to the links.

Where you want those clubs, folks, folks? I'm your caddy. He's got the swim. He shoots. He scores. He's got the drive. This guy. Sucks. He's got the ball.

All right, let's go. Adam Sandver is Happy Gilmore. All right, we're doing Happy Gilmore. Sean Fennessey is here. Special guest, the Safty Brothers. Hello. Benny and Josh. Great to be here.

Thank you. You requested this. We did. You said we want to come on the rewatchables and we want to do an Adam C in the movie because you just have him in your new movie on Cut Jems. This is not a promotional vehicle. We just really want to talk about Happy Gilmore.

Yes. I mean, there's not. Who doesn't? I feel like we accidentally quote it constantly anyway. I mean, it's between Happy Gilmore and his first and second comedy records that just get quoted on set naturally. Yeah, it's kind of insane. Like, you'll just, I'll look at Sandler and just go to quote something not realizing it's from Happy Gilmore. Right.

It's like, oh, yeah, that's your thing. On set someone, so it's like, oh, is that three or four? Is that take three or four? I was like, oh, I think that's four. I was like, oh, great, you can count. I was like, you can count on me waiting for you in the parking lot. And, you know, I don't know, it's just these things just keep popping up all the time. Was it, were you guys starstruck the first couple days trying to direct him or you just get over it?

Well, the first time we met with him, we played, he met, you wanted to play basketball. So that was, you know, you meet him and he's covered in sweat. Yeah. And, you know, he might as well be wearing the subway t-shirt. And that, you know, yeah, that was a moment. My working theory with him is that he did grown-ups just for the basketball scene so he could seem impressive. He's actually pretty good. He is good, I know.

The other guys, like, they took a big L. And grown-ups. He'll have chicken wing you, though, on the court. He's got a good mid-range game. Sean Fentasy. My working theory on Happy Gilmore. Shoot. It's the mid-1990s baby of Stripes and Cadyshack.

Oh. They reproduce the Had a Child, and they made Happy Gilmore. I buy it. I don't know if we necessarily get the... You know, Stripe secretly is like a war movie. You know, like, the whole second half a movie. The first 20 minutes is of Stripe. It's basically the first 20 minutes of happy-gat.

Totally. I buy it. And then it goes in a cat-a-check. What makes this movie so re-watchable for you? It's part of what Josh and Benny are saying, which is maybe the most quotable Sandler movie, the most jokes per minute. But also, it's the best example of what makes him so good, I think, which is that, and you guys identify this in your movie, I think, Adam Sandler is at his best when he's basically a total sociopath. Yeah. And he's a really likable sociopath.

Right. rooting for this sociopath, but there's something wrong with Happy Gilmore, and you can't take your eyes off him. He is a maniac and so angry. Happy Gilmore was just trending on Twitter the other day. Oh, because the football player. He pulled that helmet off and hit the guy. Oh, yeah.

And now he pulled a happy. There's the rule. I'm the only guy. I still hold the record for the only player to remove my skate and try to kill a man with. It's a rule in the NFL book where you can't take your helmet off and use it as a weapon. And so it's just like happy going to do with it. That's a happy. Exactly.

So he's, yeah, sociopathic. I was in college in the 90s. He ends up on SNL during a time when they're just adding all these bit players. And it's like probably the best cast in the history show. And you can see him trying to fit his fit in. And there's just so much talent. It's tough. And he did a couple weekend updates.

He sang some songs. The thing that he did that I was like, oh, this guy's going to be a star. He did something. I think it was with Shannon Doherty. It was the Denise show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This talk show about this guy whose girlfriend broke up with him. And he had his pictures behind him.

And then he would have guests on and it would be like, hey, what's going on? He's like, uh, so have you heard from Denise? And he was just like a psycho. And that was when I was like, oh, this is, this is something. But as Sean said, the psychotic Adam Sandler is the funniest Adam Sandler. Well, he's always so grounded.

That's like we were just like looking at some things. And the scenes are so insane and Happy Gilmore. And yet you totally believe, oh yeah, he's got a win for his grandmother. Something about it. It's totally real. You know, I don't know what. The premise of the movie, though, is. so ridiculous. It's like the house goes into foreclosure, but then Shooter McGowan is buying the house.

One of the greatest villains of all time. One more step, I burn the house, that's piss on the ashes. Christopher McDonald's performance, it's either that or his performance in record for a dream. I don't know which one's more evil. I actually was, for some reason, I went down to Christopher McDonald, like, rabbit hole on YouTube. That's amazing. I was watching and he said, that putt that he hits when he goes crazy, he said he had a bet with everybody on the crew that he could hit that put and nobody.

believed him, and it was like the second or third take, and he hit it, and he just went wild. And that was like part of the energy. It was full method. Yeah, full method, exactly. Oh, you should have saved that story for half-ass internet research. Oh, I did not know that. That was half-assed. Yes.

And it was there. So, comedy is 1994 to 96. Ace Ventura, dumb and dumber, Tommy Boy, Billy Madison, King Payne, Happy Gilmore, and Black Sheep. Oh, man. It's such a good time. What happened, man? What happened? It was all the children of Saturday Live just started to make movies.

And they were all silly. And in living color. Yeah. Jimmy, with Jimmy Carrey. But I mean more like the, if anyone's ever called him Jimmy Carrey. I mean it more like the Eddie Murphy,

SNL. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Caddyshack and Stripes and that whole generation. And then those people became grown-ups who had money to make movies. Yeah. And there's a silliness that was ground. There was always one big star.

Mm-hmm. And they were silly but fun. They were always over 90 minutes. They never tried to do too much. They weren't worried about any sort of being woke, diverse, They were just like, what's funny, let's do it. I'm kind of nostalgic for this era.

I don't know if it ever comes back. I can't even believe that that existed in that period of time. It's like 30 minutes. I don't know if it does come back. I don't think so. I don't, maybe it's just, I mean, the, you know, like the caddy shack. It's funny because Sandler, Billy Madison is kind of like a back to the, back to school. And Happy Gilmore is kind of like his catty shack.

Yeah. And Dangerfield is his God. And like there are like someone, I don't think Dangerfield ever becomes. of celebrity. I don't think we can have another danger field. He was in his movie. He was a movie starting to

it was 60 years old. I didn't know who he was until Caddyshack. Yeah. And even then he was just the guy from Caddyshack. Well, that definitely can't happen. I mean, there can't be Rodney Dangerfield becoming a huge comedy star,

but just the idea of a big hit comedy movie feels hard to imagine. You know, something that like takes over the culture. Happy Gimor didn't take over the culture, but Adam Sandler sort of did over the course. Happy Gimor didn't take over my culture. Me too. Hands down.

Did it take over culture? I mean, we were just reading that. There was a ratings boost for prices right afterwards. Right. I believe that. I was mid-20s when this movie came out, and I felt like it was a huge deal with people I knew, but also it was pre-internet. We had no idea how popular it was.

But it did feel like a Sandler arrival, and the people who really liked him on SNL was a vindication because, you know, he basically got fired from SNL. But it was also a really bad SNL season. Like it was one of those they had to clean house And it was kind of justified Sort of though But if you go back and look at that season now It looks a lot better

You know It looked like look at that cast that he was with That last year that he was there It was very Put it this way That season was happening in 2019 There would have been a lot of toxic masculinity For sure

It would be different It would have been a lot It was a lot of over the top And I think they just wanted to clean house And get it back to be in a sketch thing He never totally fit out on that show because he was always Adam Sandler. He's absurdist.

He's like his, he's kind of like a Jerry Lewis in a little bit. You know what I mean? Like he's a, you know, he's peculiar in a very original way, which makes his characters work in movies because like in a movie you're like, oh, yeah, we can suspend disbelief and we can get into like the beauty of Happy Gilmore is that he's a hockey player. That's like, it's funny. It's like we did this red carpet thing in New York. And like NHL films were on the red carpet.

I'm like, they're asking me. They're like, what's your tie to NHL? I was like, I like Mike Richter and Mark Messier. I was like, well, why do you ask? Like, you know, because of Sandler, I was like, what do you mean? He's like, you know, happy Gilmore. I'm like, oh, my God, I forgot it. It's a hockey movie first.

Yeah. Then a golf movie. You're right. It does, the hockey and golf community is, this is one of their movies. They own it, yeah. I ask Stanley that is you still play golf. He's like, yeah, I don't do it as much. But, like, I always, I just imagine him.

I mean, the fact that he invented that swing. That swing was so iconic. Like, no many times I've actually, like, pulled over to a driving range and tried it. I don't know if they had CGI back then either, right? Well, those shots are incredible of the ball passing through. It's like, it makes me want to, like, really get into golf. It's definitely animated, though. He's not actually driving it 450 yards.

Well, I just think the, it looks realistic. It's edited. It's the point of view shots of the ball flying through. I remember there was a great story. There was like an urban legend, urban legend. Probably not urban legend, but whatever. Some type of a legend about this gorilla, but they put a golf club in its hands. Our grandfather told us this one.

And he would drive the ball 400 yards every time. And he'd be like, oh, my God, he's going to be a sensational golf player. And then he gets to the green and he hits it another 400 yard. Right, right. He doesn't know what putting is. So when you're directing him, he's obviously in his 20s was this guy who just loved being around his buddies and busting balls. And that's basically how this script was done. It was just him and Tim Hurley.

And they're just making jokes and throwing them in the movie. Is he still like that? Because when you hit your late 40s, is it's tough to keep that all the time. You have kids, you get mortgages. He's still pretty, like, we were having a lot of fun on set just with like joking around. But it was also, it was pretty serious in the sense of like, okay, we wanted to get into that mindset of this guy. And he wanted to disappear into a new person.

Right. So there was that same energy. Like, it was weird because production is super stressful and crazy. But there was always that like element of being on like a danger field. So he was telling Joe. to everybody on the set trying to keep it light, even though it was kind of insane. And he also had a basketball, you know, hoop set up on the stage. And we were constantly like, you know, Lockren, who, you know, who's in a lot of the movies,

Jonathan Laughran, he's, you know, constantly searching for, he works with Sandler still. And he's constantly searching for a hoop for us to play during lunchtime. And just to get a quick sweat in, which adds a level of like, I don't know, adds a level of happy to the movie. There was, there was one moment when, like, when he, when he's coming in and out of the, if you haven't seen the movie, Kevin Garnett's in the movie. Don't spoil your movie, though, because there's so many surprises.

There's just Kevin Garnett's in the movie, but he's trying to sell Kevin Garnett on something. And he goes in and out of his back room. And on set, that went on for like 15 minutes, back and forth, back and forth. Because every time he kept coming back, he was so excited. He's like, all right, what do I say? What do I say? We send him out with another. Well, I'm a singer.

I'm deep in Nick's world, so I would just send him the most deep cut, 2012 Nix's references. Just to hear what Garnett would say back to it. What do we think about this Lynn guy? I think there's any validity to him? And they were like, what are we thinking? That was my favorite. What are we thinking?

Like, I'm only going to agree if you agree. My favorite was because deep on Nick's Twitter in 2012, a not a very nice nickname for Mike Woodson appeared, and it was vagina mouth. And because his mouth kind of looked like a vagina. If you rotated his head. Well, he had that beard. You're that intense. I like Mike Woods.

I love Mike Woodson. I didn't like it when East is Big. East is big was his biggest. I love Mike Woodson. But he popped out of the room. He's like, what are we thinking about vagina mouth? And Cajie's like, what the hell is vagina? You know what I mean?

Only like deep cut psychopathic Nix fans who are deeply unhappy would say something like that. This is the earliest we've gotten a vagina mouth on the Rewatchibles. Yeah. That's going to be the 100th episode. But I do think what we, I think that, I think that on set the happy references did come. If you wouldn't, like, you wouldn't, you can't control them. Like, like, Sandler would be like, are we going to go have, uh, We're going to go have dinner after we're done shooting today.

And I'd be like, well, we, Benny and I have like to do our hour prep for tomorrow. And he's like, no, no, no, we're going to go and do it. And I said, no. And then he would look at me and I'd be like, shooter. Yeah. We're going to go to the Red Lobster and catch some grub. This is just constant references. But about the irony that you guys love the Nix, but you made a movie that's really an homage to the 2012 Celtics and the end of the KG Pierceway.

You know how hard that was for me. I appreciate it. We had to cast, and I saw when we had to recast from Joellen B. and I looked down at the recently retired players and I saw KG on the list immediately. It was like, never in a million years. I hate Kevin Garnett. But I hated him because I was a Knicks fan

and his whole persona heel thing worked on me. So he's the best. One of the first things we asked, Garnett was so Amari had time on the clock, right? And he's like, come on. He's like, that was nine years ago in a regular season game. Yeah.

And Josh, you remember the game though, right? I do. Of course, but we are convinced that the Knicks would have had it. There's like a whole alternate timeline that we've created that the Knicks would have won a championship Dan Tony would still be there. No mellow trade, no mellow trade. You guys are insane.

If he had made that basket, Tomar as these lasted like 30 days. But it would have been different. He would have had the help. The rest of that roster, that was really good. It was straight feelings. The mistake, no, the mistake was amnestying

when you amnestyed billups to sign Chandler. Yes. That was when it falls apart right there. Because then you could have had the amnesty for Amnesty. I know, I know. We needed that amnesty. To me, it was the first $100 million dollar contract. track.

Mello was playing the four all regular season. And then as soon as the playoffs hit, Woodson took him off. And then he went big in the east. Against Ray Hibbert. And it totally changed. Oh, my God. Remember that block? Verticality.

That was the problem. Yes. That was the first time you ever started hearing about that. Like, that's when the Knicks died. Can we go back to the part where Joel Embed was supposed to be in this movie? Did you not know that? I didn't know that. Oh, yeah.

Joel was attached for like eight months. And we were going to Sixers games and talking with Joe. Well, the themes of the movie. Yeah. Sandler's character gets an African. Opal brought in and he wants to kind of reclaim it. Yeah, he was, we were, we were, you know, spitballing, you know, writing jokes kind of with Joel. And then Sandler, we couldn't shoot during the summer.

So we had to push into the regular season. And then right away, the, you know, an active player went off the table. But it was Joelle for a while. Actually, Joel's manager plays Kevin's manager, Jenny Sachs. And she's awesome. And she, you know, helped, you know, make Kevin feel totally at home because she's in that world. If you had gotten Embed, he would have been really good. for the first 80% of the movie

and then gotten tired and been terrible the last 20%. And then you had to rest them repeatedly during the last few seats. That's rude. Joel is great. You got to trust the process. Before we going at Gilmore,

can we talk about Sandler really quick? Yeah, of course. Career-wise? Yeah. One of my absolute fucking favorite people ever. I know you love him the most. Yeah. One of the strangest careers of N.A. Lister.

He has this whole major comedy run. Every once in a while, he's in a super serious movie and he's really good. he's done a shitload of kids movies and Netflix movies and I think he's more known for that, especially the last 12 years, but there's always been this talent lurking in him

that every so often he's like, oh, I'm going to remind people I'm a really good actor. Funny people, the first hour of funny people, I think he's legitimately amazing. Yeah, yeah. He's playing a version of himself in that movie. A really like a version of himself, but not himself. No, no, no, no, no.

He actually creates a character almost out of himself. What do you make of this after we're now three decades in with Sandler? A couple things. One, classically trained actor, people don't know that. He's a really, really, really good actor. Two, Josh and Benny, PTAO, Apetow, great filmmakers, see something in him. They know that they can pull something new from him. He's inspiring to them, so they're inspiring to him.

Also, he just has taste. People want to judge him based on grown-ups three, but he, first of all, had to go- grown-ups three? It's coming. I'm sure it's coming. Good news for my kids. I just think that people want to presume that the worst thing you've done

is representative of your whole career, but ultimately he's got the most a variety of any comedy star really of the last 25 years in terms of the kinds of movies he's made. So I don't know, he's constantly surprising. I think what he did in Uncut Jim's, you'd think about the big comedy actors

over the last 30 years. Like Jim Carrey, he could have created a version of that character. I don't know if he could have pulled off some of the nuances with it, but... Well, he's not a Jew, so... No, that, other than that.

But Jim Carrey's another one for us. It was Jim Carrey and Adam Sandler, as, you know, seeing... I saw all those movies, and Jim Carrey also brought... He had this absurdist theater thing going on, and he's incredible. Jim Carries...

I mean, Sandler was always more our guy, but, yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I think Carrey, I mean, Truman Shosen is, you know, is a great reminder to people that he... Obviously, Eternal Sunshine. And, you know, even Boundback in Myerwitz, he references Happy Gilmore with that wrestling, that tumbling scene with Stiller. That's right.

That's the Bob Barker's right. Happy Gilmore fight, you know? That's pretty great. There's no way Bowenbach, Noah didn't think about that. There's no way. Because some comedians or comic actors can't pull off going too dark. Yeah. Like Will Ferrell has tried and he just hasn't totally been able to do it.

Even though he's been a monstrously successful actor, like Chevy Chase was another one, couldn't do it. was able to figure out how to do it. But it's just, it's kind of 50-50, whether the guys can do it or not. Yeah, there's something, there's something with Sandler that he goes there, but you almost don't feel like he's going like there, which is what lets him succeed because you're like, oh, my God, he's still preserving the parts of him that you love without a, so he's not abandoning that persona, which I think is huge. And it's, so there isn't a kind of a betrayal on the part of the audience.

They really feel like, oh, I, there's that guy in there, you know, and you do. just you want to pull for him. Yeah. And, yeah, I don't know. Sandler turns in some great dramatic stuff and click, too. I mean, he's, you know, he's, he, I think in every, every Sandler movie, he, you know, well, I mean, we were on the set of murder mystery. And I was watching him during his close up.

And he, he was, he felt compelled to just improvise little moments to just make, just reify the moment, be like, no, we're actually on a yacht. This person actually did just get stabbed. Right. And, uh, yeah. You know, and his co-stars were kind of like, what are you doing? You know what I mean? He was at one point where he's like, oh, my God, it's felt so real for everybody.

They're like, whoa, what's going on right now? Because he just totally reifies the situation. It's, yeah, it's amazing. The other thing that's cool about him is that most of the movies that he makes, if he's not making a movie with guys like you, he's working with his friends, and he's trying to create the best possible life for himself, which seems obvious, but is underrated as a professional pursuit. Yeah, as a life.

Yeah, to just say, like, what I want to do is be around the people that I love and that love me that I trust doing something that we find entertaining. That's very authentic. He basically invented the let's go on location and I could bring my whole family. Like, just go with it as a Hawaii trip. By the way, it's one of my daughter's favorite movies. But it's just him and his family. And the same thing like with murder mystery.

It's set in Monaco. It was all over the place too. It was like a world travel. Kind of no reason to be in Monaco. It's super expensive there. But Sandler's like, I just need to cross Monaco off my list. But I admire it, though. I like that.

I like that. I mean, he loves being around. He seems to pull his people wherever he goes. And I love his family is super important. But I also love seeing all of the people in his world in the like covert and Locke. You know, like seeing him in it's like, oh, and you can't even recognize covert and Happy Gilmore. You know, it's a cat. Yeah, it's so funny.

He's also made some bad movies. And he seems like they bounce off him. Well, the ones that mean a lot to him, you know, they, they like, you know, they're important to him. And then the ones that he just kind of walks through, I think he's, you know, I think people see them and he's proud of that. But I think that they're just kind of like, well, I'm not going to even worry about that. I'm just going to worry about the ones that mean everything. It reminds me of an athlete where you have like a 20-year career.

And it's like, yeah, that one team went 5 and 11. That one of 3 and 13. But then that other year, I made the Eastern Finals. I mean, he's always working, which is crazy. I mean, he needs to constantly have his brain busy. He's got a lot going on up there. So he gets fired from Estelle in 1995. and him and Hurley had written

Billy Madison, which was successful. Aconic. Open the door for them to do their next movie with the studios. Same director, yeah. They come up with a high concept premise for a film about a hockey player who smacks a 400-foot drive.

That was the starter. They're just sitting around shooting the shit. They start with that, and then they try to create a whole thing. They work on the script. They're just writing jokes. And a lot of these, comedy start this way where it's like a one-sentence premise and then just a lot of funny things

that the two people who do the thing like and they just kind of cram it in and like eventually this would be a movie. And in this case, it's the best case scenario. What I didn't realize, Jed Apatow allegedly performed a scriptory right but went uncredited. Oh, I didn't know that. You knew that one? He talked about it during Zohan. When they were promoting Zohan. Yeah, we didn't even talk about Zohan. Yeah, Zohan incredible. This movie comes out. It earns 41.2 millerun. million on a $12 million budget. Paving the way for the Adams Sittler run.

Yeah. Because people are like, oh, so we could make four times as much. And I'm not even counting. So this is 95? 96. 96. This is right as the cable on-demand blockbuster DVD era. I got a DVD player in 96.

This is one of the first ones. Definition of a rewatchable. Yeah. You can put on every day. Our buddy who ran a video store in in Philadelphia said this was constantly on the screen.

Yeah. Constant. It was, he said he, he said he's only seen the movie maybe two or three times, but he's listened to it a thousand times. Every time he was at work, it was just on,

because it's the perfect thing for you just to sit, laugh at a scene and move on. I think this is like a perfect definition of a rewatchable is when you hear the bumper of the studio head and you immediately think of the first music cue that hits. Right, right.

Totally what happens here. You hear that like... It's a universe. Yeah, exactly. But I hear the happy golden scene. To this day, it's... It's Tuesday's gone, right? That's the first song.

The soundtrack of the movie is incredible. That's Sandler's taste right there. It turned me on to a lot of music. How long to kiss you all? Exile. The subtle... He does it with his hand against the buzzer. He's like, you can see.

He's imagining the human figure. Magic. Magic's a great track on that. You know. See, if dumb and dumber Tommy Boy and Happy Gilmore, I think, emerge out of all of these comedies as, like, everyone had the DVD. They were on all the time. They didn't have to be edited too much on, like, T&T, TBS, whatever. That's true.

This isn't the dirtiest movie. No, you could breathe it really easily. The TV version is pretty funny because I was just watching on the plane and, like, the things they choose to change, like, are pretty insane. Like, I guess when, even when he's with Chubs outside of the thing, he's like, where'd you get that, like, slock? It's like the way they like, but there's like up a lot. Do you know this about Chubbs? So, so there's a, there's a, um, an our movie, there's a surprise cameo in it.

And I'm going to spoil it because it's not the biggest deal. Uh, because it's important to talk about for rewatchables. John Amos appears in our movie. Yeah. And when John Amos was coming on his set, Sandler decided to tell me, he's like, did you know that me and Hurley, he originally wrote Chubs to be played by John Amos? Wow. Yeah.

What? Yeah. And he said, but this. come out of my half-ass internet research. Because no one knows about this. Totally new. But the studio's like, it's got to be Carl Weathers. And they're like, well, we love Carl Weathers.

But it was written for Amos. They're like, it's got to be Carl Weathers. It's like, all right, fine, not the biggest compromise because we love Carl Weathers. And so John Amos shows up on set and I bring this up with him. And he's like, oh, I just say to him. I was like, you know, Adam's here. Adam will be here any second. I heard you guys were going to do a movie together at one point.

And while he goes, oh, yeah, whatever happened to the golf movie? Oh, that's a big. Not the heart to tell him, but like, that heart movie turned on to like, oh, my God. It didn't really, it didn't work out, you know. Jesus. Because for him, that would have been incredible because good times, iconic comedy, 70s, 80s coming to America. Yeah. And then 90s, he was chubs.

He would have been a good chubs. Good for recasting couch. I love Amos was like, Jimmy Walker. I can't take it. I'm out with good times. He was like, I'm just, no more. I'm out. I'm not on the show.

It's like the number five show in America. It's 30 million people watching. I'm done. I can't handle this guy. Let's take a break to talk about the only network showing Elf this holiday season. That's right, AMC. The rewatchables is getting in on the fun this December. We're breaking down Will Ferrell's holiday classic.

That's right. Chris Ryan and I will be making our rewatchables television debut during Elf on December 16th, that 8 p.m. part of AMC's best Christmas ever. Don't miss it. It's all made possible. by IHOP, where you can try the elf on the shelf menu. It's new and only for a limited time. They've got jolly cakes with shimmery elf sprinkles,

oh, what funnel cakes with powdered sugar, and merry marshmallow hot chocolate. So be good for pancakes sake and treat the whole family. Remember, tune in, set your DVRs for the rewatchables on AMC during Elf Monday, December 16th at 8 p.m. Roger Ebert. What do you say? I'm curious.

Not a fan. It's a tough one for you. This is a running gag on the rewatchables where we do Roger Ebert's review. Oh, of in the moment. My whole take is Roger Ebert was a little overrated and it makes fantasy and sense. He's not overrated.

It's very important to helping people understand the long arc of film history. Well, he's wrong a lot and he was wrong here. He gave this film one and a half, one and a half stars out of four. Oh! He said, Adam Sandler's character, quote, quote,

doesn't have a pleasing personality. Oh my God. That is like way wrong. He seems angry even when he's not supposed to be and his habit of pounding everyone he dislikes is tiring in a PG-13 movie. That is iconic. The thing is he's kind of right while being wrong. But he's also explaining everything.

There's nothing right about that. Exactly. But he's so wrong about that. But he's underlining, I don't know if we've ever seen a comedy star like. this who is so angry and psychotic but also you feel like a weird warmth towards. What's weird is Ebert, if he was

watching the movie through the lens of you know, an art film or whatever, he would probably have been all those things he's saying you can spin for the positive. I've read Ebert reviews where he says those things on a positive take. If it's a Hurtzog movie, he's like this dastardly

assholes is a brilliant representation. This man who's so angry all the time. So I mean it just speaks to I think to the like you know, almost schizophrenic nature of Ebert's like, you know, when he's at the height of his, you know, you know, powerhouse commercialism. Like, I got to give it two thumbs. I got whatever. So that's a bad take, though.

It is a bad star movie. It's a lot of bad takes about 90s comedies. And trust me, I was reading those reviews because I was like, I need to know what this guy thinks about the mask. And he was like, this movie sucks. I was like, how could anyone think this? But tough one. All right, we're going to get to the categories.

We're going to take a break first. All right. You know how this goes? The categories? Vaguely, yes. This is like dancing. Just follow our dance moves. First category is most re-watchable scene.

I'm going to give you some candidates. Okay. Let me run through them. And if I forgot one, tell me after. I'm having a little trouble deciding should we put the opening credits in as its own most re-watchable scene. Heads, I say we do it.

Tails, we don't do it. Hey, Google, flip a coin. It's heads. I think the opening credits are incredible. The opening credits include him, all the hockey footage, him saying I was the only guy to ever take off his skate to try to stab someone. Him with his dad. I was thinking about how long that would take to take off your skate.

Happy Gilmore definitely wasn't lacing up tight though. Yeah, maybe that. Ripped him out. The fake penis sequence where he's got rakes and a gas pump and everyone. It's incredible. Wait, and Egon. With the nail on the hat. The character actor, what's his name?

Ega. Ega. You remember, you know, no, it's Egan. No, it's Ega. Ega, sorry. You remember there was like, there's a mystery science theater movie where they, where they. Richard Kiel the Jack. Yeah. Thank you, yes.

He was Jaws and Moonraker. That's right. But he, but he, doesn't he take the nail in the head? He takes the nail in the head. Because he's using the, he's, his dad dies at the hockey game also in the beginning, right? Oh, yeah. The origin story of Happy Gilmore is insane. His mom is so unhappy that she moves to Egypt

and then his dad dies and then he's accused of assault in an ice rink. Yes, the darkest movie of all time. I remember, I think my son was like five when I first showed this to him. My son, this was like all in his wheelhouse. And as soon as he has the gas pump, he's pumping it,

my son was like, this is the greatest human being I've ever seen in my life. Also, he lets out a good you think you better than me when he's beating up the hockey coach. I was not asking you think you better than me. Is that where that comes from? Yeah, okay. That's good to know.

That was, I think, the first documented you think you better than me. That seems great. I mean, it's what I grew up with in New England. But there was a lot of those at parties at 2 in the morning. All right, so that's the first one. I love a good opening credits. Plus, Tuesday's gone. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, great. That's the best Skinner's song, yeah. Which I'm sure wasn't cheap. No. Because you're talking 20 years. after Leonard Skinner, but still, like, at their peak Skinner, they totally changed the song. Like, the song is now.

The whole soundtrack must be doing more songs. And Skinner got a bump, we're down to rabbit hole, in 94, because Sweet Home Alabama is in Forrest Gump. That's right. So those numbers are probably a little higher one of publishing. What's the other one? 93 days and confused. Also used Tuesdays gone.

That's right. And it's also like a really pivotal part of Tuesdays of the movie. I wonder if Sandler thought about that when picking the song. It's just Gil. Yeah, interesting. I wonder. I mean, maybe he felt like they didn't use it correctly.

Yeah, it's possible. Well, in my head it's just this. All right, so that's one. Second one, Sandler's girlfriend ditches him, which is just a direct rip-off of stripes. You're going nowhere happy, and you're taking me with you.

All you ever talk about is being a pro hockey player, but there's a problem. You're not any good. I am good. You know what? You're a lousy kindergarten teacher. I've seen no finger pains you bring home, and they suck.

I'm sorry, babe. I didn't mean that. literally just rips it off. But the way it happens is amazing. The intercoms, you know, man. Then also, don't forget, he sleeps with the woman with the Asian woman. It's very sneaky. It's just, she's like, oh, you don't want breakfast.

Incredible. And there's the kid listening also. That's saying there also, but, you know, I actually noticed this in dirty work too. Who is that? Who's that song? It's until the night. Exile. Exile, yes, the best.

I want to kiss you all over. Yes. Oh. To the night closes in. Terry. But, you know, what's interesting is, like, Sandler has, like, such a foundation in both, like, the city and the kind of rural setting. So, like, he's in an apartment building. You know what I mean?

And I remember in dirty work, they're, like, they're kind of in a city. Like, they needed a scene where they're throwing, she's throwing stuff off the balcony. Right. So, like, get rid of Norm MacDonald. But then he's, like, walking, like, one block later than, like, full-on suburbs. So it's just like this interesting conglomeration of like city and suburbs. McDonald's in that also. That's right.

Norm McDonald. Dirtywork is on the two. I love dirty work. Dirty work's on the 2020 rewatchables list. Dirty works great. Mildred. I have no idea. When I saw,

when I saw Norm on the street, I literally rolled down the window and said, Hey, Mildred, Mildred. I asked him because he's friends with the whole Kimmel crew. I was like, I don't understand. Why wasn't that movie like gigantic? Everyone I know loves that movie. It was like the only one from that 93 to 98 range that didn't kind of make it as an iconic movie. I don't understand it.

Pops. It's beloved as a cult classic. I love to work. When he's in jail, he's yelling at the prisoners. What you guys trying to do. It's despicable. He should be ashamed of yourself. It comes on.

One beat too long. Next scene. Happy's double bogey in the first. hole at the Waterbury Open. Now, I'd also, I'm willing to accept as another rewatchable scene, him in the driving range when somebody says you should play at the Waterbury

open. But I went with this one instead. The double bogey. When he takes the shirt off and and jump around comes in. Oh, that's right. That's right. Oh. The Waterbury Open. That whole first 18. What's when he punches the guy for... He's punching people.

He's just completely out of his mind. I think we're moving too quickly past the batting cage. Oh, yeah. The batting cage is after that, right? But isn't that when Chubbs convinces him? Well, that's after the Waterbury Open, right? Yeah, that's after he goes. He'll get a tour after that. He goes, you'll get him to go on the tour. And then he goes, I have the shot of Grandma.

The Batty Kage is one of my favorites. That's after the Ombuds? That's after the Badakeges after. Oh, okay. Jeez. That's not, Chubbs doesn't convince him to play after watching him do that? Because he wants to, he said, he played the Waterbury Open and then he's just like, No, Chubbs sees him at the drive. Yes. Invinces to do the Waterbury Open. He's doing the most lazy tutoring or whatever.

Great job. And then he sees, you know, happy driving the ball hitting the back net. And then he, you know, does the waterbury and then afterwards during the... I actually had that in what stage the best, but I'll do it now because this is my son's favorite part when he's at the driving range and a couple says, you should play in the waterbury open tomorrow. And he goes, yeah, see you guys there.

Hey, you should play in the waterbury open tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, all right. I'll see you guys there. But that was like a big thing with my family with that. Hey, we should do. The batting cage. Oh, batting cage.

We'll just put that over there. My favorite lie is when he looks at Chubbs to, Chubs, yeah, they wouldn't let me play on the pro tour. Oh, I'm sorry. You got you black? Hell no. Damn alligator bit my hand off. Oh, my God.

That joke. It's insane. Next one, hanging with the golfers in the clubhouse. when they have the gold jackets when he meets them and they do the ninth green trick on them. Where's yours? That's the best. That's a nice jacket. Yeah, it is, isn't it?

They give you one if you win the tour championship. Oh, yeah? What's that? It's sort of the biggest tournament of the year. Oh, really? And where's yours? That's good. It is a good one. He's a funny guy. Well, I'll have mine, what, three months, guys?

That whole dynamic, and it's interesting that. So sincere, though, when he says that. Mark Lye was a real golfer who was the technical advisor on this movie and he's just happy to come off like a pretty doucheback. Like Mark Glythe's family's like, why are we in this? The ninth green trick is really funny and then he comes back,

hey, where are you going? I'm going to look for shooter. I'm going to kill him. The next rewatchable, the Bob Barker fight at the Pepsi Pro Am. There is no way that you could have been as bad at hockey as you are at golf. All right, let's go.

You like that, old man? You want a piece of me? I don't want a piece of you. I want the whole thing. You know, what's crazy is for me as a kid, you know, you stay home from school sick. Yeah. All it's on television is, price is right.

Well, that's changed. That's changed now because that was a big deal. Yeah, but my point is, you're watching this movie. You have the comedy records. You have Billy Madison. Bob Barker shows up, and you're just a kid. You're like, that's strange. Daytime TV is weird.

Yeah. You know what I mean? And he's getting his ass kicked. And Bob Barker's form is incredible. He's like a ticket on Don't Master. He is like, his stance is a real boxer, you know, it's crazy. How about when everyone, people thought he died recently, people were using the image of him pretending to be dead.

He's really dead looking in that, in that moment. That scene always makes me think of the MTV Movie Awards and how that used to really matter to me when they won best fight. Yeah. This is a big night for me to watch the MTV Movie Awards where all my heroes, Bob Barker and Adam Sandler will convene. Like, that's over. That time is over.

Best kiss, actually, like you cared. A couple of things about that scene. they told him they were using a stunt double, the director Dennis Dugan. Who plays Doug in the movie? He does. Is it Dougan or Dugan? Dugan.

And he plays Doug in the movie. And Barker insisted on doing his own stunts. I was thinking he could. And he said, wait a minute, I know how to fight. So when you see it, I don't think they do the rolling. I don't think he's in the rolling down. Every other scene, he's actually in it. There's a punch.

There's a shot from behind Barker where he's throwing a punch. And it is him. Yeah. But he's throwing a hand. Hey, don't his punches look like, like, he's hitting with a steel mechanism, right? He doesn't look like his snap. He's got the snapback. It's like, bam, he's not just letting a stick.

And he looks wiry. It's like scrappy. The thing is when you, when you. Like Lincoln. It's the shot. Lincoln was a good fighter. Imagine like Bob Barker's like an Abraham Lincoln fighter. It's the shot from when he punches him into the, like, into the sand and looking

up at him, you see he's got the stance. The legs aren't crossed. He's ready for it. Yeah. Price's ratings went up, as you said, with all the college kids. Because that was the college kid show. I have more thoughts than that in the second. Next scene, go to a happy place.

Oh, my God. The first happy place is all great. What about when the happy place gets tainted? That's what I mean. Chris McDonald, make it out with the old lady. The cat hurts into Gene Simmons. They cut that out of the airplane. The kiss, when he sucks the tongue in, that wasn't on the airplane.

Huh. When he, like, took the tongue. Too scandalous. I don't know why, yeah, maybe. Too scandalous to see. And then it turns into the. of the good happy place. Really, Julie Bowen

is a rocket ship from that scene. She's amazing. Once everyone saw her in the happy place, they're like, she's something good is happening here. Because she puts me in the happy place. She's in the new Sandler movie that he just finished shooting.

Oh, wow. He resurrected the, yeah. Right? Yeah, she kind of sort of looks exactly the same. It's a, yes. 25 years ago. Yeah, it looks the same. I know.

I always appreciated, this wasn't a great era for for provocative outfits or sexuality or really anything. Trust me, as somebody who was single at the time. There's a lot of heavy sweaters, baggy sweaters,

big jackets. I was single too. I was 12, though. She has some, she actually looks like good in this movie and is wearing clothes that would become a little more popular six, seven years later.

What about his outfits? Well, he's just wearing the broodsters. Well, that, when he gets, when he's in the office. The salmon sweatpants with the sweater. Yeah. I'll put his sweater was cool. And then the last one is just Happy's comeback in the fourth round.

Any other rewatchable scenes for you that you feel like are iconic? There is the scene with Shooter in the woods with what's his name? The guy from SCTV. Oh, Joe Flaherty. Yeah. Hey, Shooter, I thought we were going to get some grub. I love that entire subplot. Yeah, the fact that they're like that subtle friendship that's one-sided is so awesome.

Well, look, let's get something to eat. There's a red lobster nearby. My tree? maybe some other time. Shooter, I thought we were going to be friends. Oh, we're friends. We are. I just got to go.

Okay, well, I'll be at the Red Lobster in case you change your mind, shooter. God bless. The rewatchable, another one is like, no, you got to play it where the ball lies. And it's like, I had to hit it off Frankenstein's fat foot. I just, I love that. And he does it?

Yeah. That's too. Also, wait a second, the auction scene. How are you avoiding the auction scene? With, yeah, one more step. I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast. Do you eat pieces of shit for breakfast? You're in big trouble, though, pal.

I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast. You eat pieces of shit for breakfast? No. That's one of the most quotable lines from home movies. Every Ben Stiller scene. Oh, yeah. Are you out on the Ben Stiller subplot? I'm in.

I don't... Can we save it? Because I have some... I want to make it a topic. Oh, now your back's going to hurt. You know, like that's... Yeah. That is a big...

Fingers hurt is a huge... Anytime anyone... never complains on one of our side. What's that your fingers hurt?

Well, now your back's going to hurt because you just put landscaping duty. People laugh.

I think the Bob Barker scene is the best scene and the most rewatchable. It's not just the fight. It's everything

leading up to it is Bob Barker's getting madder and matter and he's just kind of and then eventually it's like, you're terrible.

How are you live the tour? This guy sucks. Yeah, we have Flaherty in that scene. Yes. You actually have him

and I agree. You know what's cool? I remember when I first saw Liberty Golf thing. They do it really well in the movie, too, from a filmmaking standpoint. It's just like you really feel like you're watching some type of, like, exhibition game. That's actually a good point.

Every golf game feels like it's being covered by the golf channel. The whole ESPN, the whole ESPN tying is pretty cool. Yeah. So we got to talk about Vern, but well, I'll save it. I had for what age the worst, but I'll do it now. Bob Barker, being in this movie, has aged the worst in this respect. It was so mind-blowing in 1995. Because as you said, price is right.

It's hard to explain now, especially to somebody under 35, but we didn't have a lot of TV shows at the time. And during the summer, it was like, I think it was on at 10 o'clock. 10 a.m. Yeah. And it was just what you watched. And I remember going to visit my buddy Gus in college at Rollins. And he was two years ahead of me.

And going, I'm like, I wonder where the college is like. And they go to classes. And they're basically like at 10 o'clock they're watching the prices right. And I'm like, this is what college is like. You guys get to just watch the prices right. And they had little games, but it was such an iconic show. The microphone? The microphone, the models?

Oh, my God. These were, like, some of the best looking people on TV at the time. And then all the games and then trying to guess. And it was just a really important show. So to see him in this scene, it was like Bob Barker's in this. And then he's like, wait, so he going to fight Bob Barker? Like, it was like absolutely staggering. It was like seeing a baseball player out of uniform.

You're like, this isn't, you wear a shirt looks like that. You know? Exactly. Yeah. You're a real person. Yeah. It was like seeing your teacher at a bar when you're in high school

and you're like, why is this guy a TGI Friday? He's supposed to be living inside of the school. If you were sick, the only thing that was of interest on television was the price is right. Then it just switched to stuff

you didn't care about. Well, I was trying to think like... It's also the most capitalistic show about it. I love it. Guessing the amount of... All of Sanders movies are super anti-capitalists

in a weird way. He's like he never actually wants the money. He doesn't care what the money in this movie. Ever. Ever. It's awesome. I was trying to think, I was going to do this later, but we may as well do this now. What's the 2019 equivalent of the shock value of Bob Barker being in this movie?

Who would that be? Because I was thinking like Chris Harrison? It just wouldn't be shocking. I feel like the Anchorman movies with the fight scenes kind of like blew this up. You know, and there was like, and here's Vince Vaughn for one minute. I'm just saying somebody that's in our lives now, like Scott Van Pelt. You know who would be? Chris Harrison.

Who's the TMZ guy? Harvey Levin? Yes. I feel like that. Do not people know who that is, though? Yeah, but like him, yes, I do. I feel like people, people watch that show. I mean, I assume people watch that show.

It's a huge following, right? But I feel like seeing him would kind of be like, oh, that guy only cares about celebrities and what their interests are. Well, it's this weird. It's got to be something that you would never in a million years expect. It's the thing. It's convincing somebody who would never do it. Like in your mind, it was like he would never in a million years ever appear in this thing. That's a good way to frame it.

Because I was thinking about, like, the place in the consciousness is probably more like a younger person, like a social media influencer, you know, where you wouldn't expect like Logan Paul to show up in an Adam Sandler movie. But he was just in the boxing match. That's true. And he also is obsessed with celebrity and fame in a way. Doris Burke? That's a pretty good one. That's a pretty good one. She's like, oh, Doris Perks said this.

Wait, she's fighting. Happy Gilmore. What's happening? That's amazing. All right. We go through us. It would be unbelievable. So what do you have from us to be watchable?

I think I have the, I think I have the office. section scene. Okay. What do you have? For me, it's that batting cage with the Chubbs. I'll go Barker. Okay. What stage is the best.

Happy swing. We talked about it, but it's really, I don't know how he did it. It's actually, like, pretty athletic. It is. I don't think a lot of people could have pulled it off. Does Sandler golf? He does golf. Like, frequently.

I don't think he's very good, though. I did some research on this. I think he does it, but, like, you know, doesn't do it often. There was like, it was a really, like, early short film that we did. I tried to have. have like a golf aspect. One, I swung a golf club playing it. I was just like, oh, I want to try and create a golf swing that was funny.

It's not the same. Yeah. I'm changing my rewatchable. I'm going with the opening credits. Okay. Going with that. Because I think about everything. I might do that too. It's very moving.

It is. The fucking gas switch. And his hair too, when he's on the, when he's on the ice. And also when they say to him, they go, oh, I think I think you missed Gilmore. And he goes, did I miss Gilmore? And he looks at it. Oh, yeah. No, I didn't.

Better luck next year. I thought I called your name, didn't I? He goes, no, you didn't. Oh, didn't I? Yeah. I forgot about the Neeland scene. Oh, my God. Oh, that's it.

Okay. That is huge. That seems unbelievable. That's my favorite scene. That came up. That came a lot because we would be like, okay, and this, you're going to be blocking out, holding the good energy, block out the bad. It's like a merry going up down and around.

You know how many times we did that with Sandler? Well, San, the character of Howard is up down and around. Well, that's what we knew. That was like a constant on set when we were. We were talking. That was one that came up a lot. I had him in What Stage the Best, and unfortunately for him, it's what became the best use of Kevin Nalen in a movie. He's like a change-up. Does I always like this? Would he have TV cameras and the people and stuff?

Yeah, a lot of pressure. You got to rise above it. You got a harness in the good energy. Block out the bad. Harness, energy, block bad. Feel the flow happy. Feel it. It's circular. It's like a carousel. You pay the quarter. You get on the horse. It goes up and down. and around. Circular, circle, with the music, the flow, all good things.

Yeah, all right. Well, great. Thanks a lot. Nice to meet you. It's like a one-two count and he's like the curb on the dirt. Yeah. That just keeps you off balance. Well, you don't even know that.

You don't even expecting that guy to come out. That guy, though, should show up in every movie. He should show up in like Phantom's Red. You know, just like get him in there for like a two minutes talking to Daniel Day Lewis. But there's no downside. Why was it ain't uncutchebs? Yeah.

What are you guys doing? He probably should have been in uncutchebs. Yeah. We thought about some certain... Should have been at the family table, at the big family scene? Neelan? Putting a Yamika, no?

I can see him being... That's a pretty ethnic table. He could have been... He could have been in the practice facility. Definitely could have been a waiter. Practice facility? Morewood's age the best. The 9 a.m. Sprinkler trick in the 9th room we mentioned.

Tuesday's gone. We mentioned... This quote... I'm not doing best quotes because this is the best quote. in the movie, and this is something that everyone says when they play golf. Say you of a bitch, Paul, why didn't you just go home?

That's your home! Are you too good for your home? Answer me! Suck my white-ass ball! Everyone has done that when they played golf. Go to your home. The one that I probably... I play golf. I'm sorry if that's offensive to you guys. No, not...

That's a good one. It's tap, tap, tap. Oh, yeah. Just tap it in. Just tap it in. Give it a little tapy. Tap-tap-tap-o. That's the, you hear me saying that.

Well, that applies to a lot of life. Just tap. Homeless caddy? Oh, Alan Covert. Yeah, he's the best. Showering. Using the ball cleaner? In my head, the ball cleaner is for cleaning underwear.

You know, our socks or whatever. That's what it is. So homeless caddy, Alan Covert, is the guy, he's like Sandler's Joe House. Yeah, when are we doing Grandma's boy? He's in every Sandler. He's amazing in the wedding singer, the limo driver. I'm not happy. Yeah.

I see. the uh Julie Bowen yep it's a watch that's your best especially because she became I had a big crush on her probably the most famous mom of any six of the last 10 years

10 years on modern fans and it's funny she has this little like early Julie Bowen movie but I think everybody bought stocking her from this movie like oh I had a big crush on Julie Bowen yeah everyone did it was one of those things where it was actually weird nobody took advantage of the fact that we all

had a crush on her for the next few years in movies or whatever One moment when she yells for happy, I know that's like a little thing in my head. Happy, look out. Like, I don't know. There's something about the way that she's screaming for him that somebody sticks in my head. I do have some questions about her job, but we can save that for picking it's what her role is. I would like to, yeah, there's a good question.

She's player management, no? I think she's publicity. Oh, okay. She's PR, but she's very involved. She's almost like running the PJ Torres. Think about the incredible publicity bomb that would happen. incredible bomb, like positive bomb with Happy Gilmore arrived on the golf scene. You kind of like, and every once in a while, I'll like, golf will be on television.

I'll tune in hoping that I'm going to see like the Happy Gilmore. And it doesn't really happen. That was the last year for that haircut, which had about a five-year run. Oh, yeah. If you can pull off a mom haircut when you're 25 years old, all power to you. Nine-O-2-0. Multiple characters on that show had that haircut, including Brandon's girlfriend who turned out to be a racist.

That she said a couple, Andrea Zuckerman. She was like, oh, she's got to have a lot of money. She's Jewish. And Brandon's like, whoa. What's that? And I'm like,

I got to break up with you. That's totally I'm called for. Homeless Caddy we mentioned, you should play in the Waterbury open tomorrow. And then my vote for what stage is the best? Shooter McGavin. Oh, my God. I think this might be the number one sports movie villain.

The way he brings everything in the table and nothing off. When he proves himself after that beach ball comes onto the green, and he tries to hit it and it kind of breaks it. That's because he bet, I would tell you, he bet the crew to make that putt. Oh, that's true. And he's like, I'm going to do it. I'm actually going to hit it. But when he hits it, his, I actually see a bullet come out of his finger.

It's like, so aggressive with the shake. Shooter. Stuck on that, baby. There's so much good about what he's doing. But one of my favorite things is when he's giving the interview and he's like, you know, I just, it's. I hate leaving Portland. He does that phony ass. He's so gross.

It's so gross. It's so gross. It's so, gross, these little things. But when he's getting introduced on the stage, Shooter has his back turn. Oh, yeah. Just kind of like waiting for his moment to turn around.

Right. It's so like, you really get in his head. It's a really layered character. They nailed the douchebag. They nailed him so well. The sweater's perfectly tied. Yeah. It did make me wonder if there was a real-life shooter McGavin

on the PGA tour. How fun. being, I feel like Brooks Kepka is like 20% there. I was going to bring him out. He's somewhere in this world. Brooks is like, it wouldn't be that much for him to just be like, fuck it. I'm just going to be a dick. He's more like a Nick Faldo, like old school, like you're demeaning the game guy.

Brooks Kepka is like fuck everybody. I played football. But that's what I mean. But he's still a villain. Mega athlete and I'm crushing. He's supposed to have to have you more in a way. Yes, that's, I was going to bring him. Because I don't even follow golf, but somehow he's made it into my view.

Yeah. And it's like because he's just. At one point there was like a press conference that he gave where he like let off. And it was like, oh, he's the real bro. He's like golf's first bro. Yeah. You know, the bro-yness is not a thing in golf. Shooter is old school.

Like, there is an elegance and also on the piece of garbage to this. But maybe he's a cross between happy and shooter. He might be. The perfect fusion. I like when he... Shooter would say stuff like what Brooks Kebka says where there's like you and Roy, the rivalry, he's like, well, it's not really a rivalry. He's never beaten me.

Yeah. Shooter would definitely say that. What you say? What place to get in? Deadlast? They're asking him all the questions about Happy Gimmer. He's like, I'm sorry. What was that? Chomp it on that cigar. Any other what's aged the best for you guys other than stuff we've already mentioned? My fingers hurt.

The Ben Stiller character's. Glasses shut the hell up. That's a big one. Mr. Mr. Get me out of here. Mr. Mr. Lister! Me out! Here, just eat that. Leave us alone. I mean, that's just unbelievable. I just killed him.

And then, wait. He dumps potato. Oh yeah, on the bat. Off of the car. Like he's at some type of safari. I mean, that's in the movie. And then wait. And then an air conditioner falls on her and she survives.

I also love when he's the happy place is reborn and he's playing piano and he looks the hands up and piano still going. Chubs dies. He falls out of a window. Oh, also we were just thinking about it. The alligator fight is amazing. That's a good one too. You believe that that thing killed, like, made his handoff, you know?

Now it would be people on Twitter wondering if a real alligator was harmed. Yeah, I'm watching the wrestling of the alligator, you're just like, what? He's hurting the animal. I have Shooter McGavin as a sports movie villain for what stage is the best. I think it's really hard to pull off the perfect sports movie villain where nobody's in. Even Ted Knight and Katashak, I'm like, I kind of like the judge. I know he's a villain, but I'm kind of rooting for him. Was this good for Christopher McDonald's career or bad?

I wonder about it. Because I read that he almost didn't want to do the movie because he was so typecast as a bad guy. Yeah. When I'm trying to, when it's dirty work in comparison to this? It's after. Yeah, because he plays kind of a similar guy, you know. He does. But he was in like Greece too.

He was trying to be like a heartthroat leading man. And like I just can't unsee shooter McAvin. Fortunately and unfortunately. His, what he should have done is like my wife loves the show The Resident. And they have a bad guy in the resident who, kind of looks like Christopher McDonald's. I think it's who's the guy, he's one of those guys who looks like Christopher McDonald.

I feel like he's one of those actors, but that's, he just should have been on a movie, on a TV show for nine years where he was kind of the villain. But I feel like, look, it's such an iconic character. He, again, I was in. Bruce Greenwood? Yeah.

You watch. That guy's on, he might have market corrected Christopher McDonald a little bit. He might have. Bruce Greenwood, great actor. Yeah, he's good. I don't know. I think he's got to be,

it's one of the most, like, quotable people. and you just see him and it's just... I have a question for aging. Yeah, me too. Do you think that the subway thing was a tie-in? Do you think that they got paid? So that's the most... That's probably the best aged thing because...

The commercial is legit good. Yes. It is a really good commercial. Seeing the T-shirt is incredible. It's so awesome to think that Subway would use a golfer to promote their brand. Also, like, what was Subway in 1996? was subway popping? Like it is...

I mean, it probably incepted us as teenagers. Yes. Now we all want... We need to eat Subway. Yeah. Because that's what I call a whole in one. Exactly. This was Ebert's big criticism other than not liking the movie and not liking Sandler. He said the film's product placement. Yeah. That's a wonder. No. But it's...

This is what he listed. I counted... This is Zebra talking. I counted Diet Pepsi Pepsi, Pepsi, Pepsi Max, Subway, Budweiser, Micalob, Visa Cards, Bell Atlantic, AT&T, I love it. Sizzler, Red Lobster, Wilson, Golf Digest, ESPN, and Top Flight golf balls. But they're all, but the way that shooter asks for that Pepsi is so on point with like Pepsi. You know, it's like so.

First of all did he, was he like taking notes while he's watching? He truly loved this movie. Yeah, how do you recognize some of those things? Some of those, like the bank ones are crazy. Even when he's wrong, he's a great critic. That's my take. I think it's a totally unfair criticism. And let's take a break.

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on your way to work, learn more at Americanexpress.com slash green from AMX terms apply. What's age the worst? I don't have a lot because I think this movie is age wonderfully. Did Chubs really have to die? Couldn't he have just like broken his back or something? He had to win it for Chubbs. Couldn't he been in a wheelchair?

Got to put some stakes on this one, you know? Can't just be that house. Well, remember, a shooter dedicates it to Chubbs. That's right. And that's what pisses happy off the most. You kind of need that. Very evil. Very evil.

That's fair. What age is the worst of this movie? I have one that I'm, it hurts my feelings to talk about, but Richard Kiel. Mm-hmm. Who apparently he had had a severe automobile accident in 1992 and he lost his balance because he had head trauma. So if you see him in every scene, he's leaning on something or holding something. And then in the scene where they're chasing shooter at the end. Yeah, he's running.

He's running. He's running. but if you look at it, he's just kind of moving like this, and they're slow-motion intimate, but he's not running. I would have cast somebody differently, and I'll get to who I would have cast later. Whoa. I think he was too physically compromised.

I can't imagine the movie with anyone else. Really? Okay. Because I imagine him really having the job as the construction. You know, that's part of it. I was totally in it. Like, he was the boss. I'm going to make the case later that we could have done better. Okay.

What else do you have for what stage the worst? Anything, Sean? It's funny. It's like very easy to go back. to 90s comedies and be like, this is problematic, that's problematic. This movie's not really like that. It really just like holds up in a way that is inoffensive and just still hilarious. I found myself like authentically as happy watching it as I was 23 years ago.

Yeah, I'm with you. All right. We'll go to the next category. Casting What Ifs. Well. This is a big one. Yeah. Approach for Shooter McGavin turned it down.

Kevin Costner, right? No shit. I knew that one. He was doing Tinkup. didn't want to do two golf movies. Kevin Koster would have been good. It would have been interesting. So I was thinking about this.

It would have had the ability, maybe you kind of like the guy a little bit too much. Yeah. It's too likable. Counter. This would have been a fun career move for him at the time. It's just being a Sandler comedy. This was like in his water world postman.

He's either doing Ron Shelton movies or like fucking crazy apocalyptic movies. And you could have sprinkling in a happy Gilmore or whatever. It would have been interesting, but Costner. just has never, has he ever been a shit heel in his whole career? I would have liked to have seen it. Exactly.

I think it would have been cool. It would have been cool if he could have pulled it off, but maybe he doesn't, you wouldn't have been able to disassociated enough, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have a hard time imagining anyone, but Christopher, McDonald, but, but, but Costner.

This is like Field of Dreams time. It would have been, what it would have done is it would have, it probably would have made someone like Ebert respond to the movie more because it would have grounded, it would have taken you. out of the absurdism a little bit and maybe made it too likable

but that might have added a complication that would have made it more like, I don't know, art film friendly or something, but I don't think the movie works with him. I would never trade group of time. I don't think it works either. I wouldn't either. It's a fun alternate universe.

Yeah, it's interesting to think about. I think it makes the movie worse ultimately and I think he probably overpowers it, but I think for him it probably would have been a good role. The other person who lobbied really hard for it was Bruce Campbell. And I think he would have been as, as, well, You said Chris McDonald didn't want to do the movie.

Yeah. Turned it down twice and then ended up doing it. Bruce Campbell's interesting. Yeah. Ben Stiller, uncredited. That's insane. I didn't know that he was uncredited. Not credited.

Great. This is. But it's like a, it's reoccurring too in that. I mean, he's in like five scenes. I don't know. There's actually, there's one on, I've only seen it once on television. The deleted scene. The deleted one where he throws him, he actually goes back and gets revenge.

Oh, yeah. And I can't see it anywhere. But I guess now it's why. I don't know. They cut that out. Yeah. Because I actually would have wanted to see that. There's no conclusion on this.

Happy goes and throws him through the glass door. I was like he did it scene. Yeah. Well, he does that with Smigel's character. Right. Yeah. So. You know who might have been an interesting shooter?

Peter Gallagher would have been an interesting shooter. Oh. You know, so I was trying to remember his name just now. Like those eyebrows would have been fascinating as shooter. That's a good one. He, I could see him as a golfer. I really like Ben Stowe. I have no idea why he's in this movie.

He's completely overqualified for the part. Friends with Sandler and that's, you know, he's incredible. He's really good. He's almost like, but it's like, I think they resurrected that character for the new Sandler movie. Well, I guess the, I don't know. He's in there to create some sort of weird alternate reality for the grandmother to get out of.

And he's so vicious in like a, he's unbelievable. He's so vicious that you really think, oh, she, again, there's all these things that I think, I believe happening in the movie. And it's like, I don't want the grandmother to be with that guy. He's like, he's a horrible person. And the idea of a, like, a nursing home that is a sweatshop? He has incredible. One of the greats.

They make quilts. Yes, and he's getting off the phone with his like, oh, yeah. He has lots of orders. He has a back order. Good news. We're increasing it by four hours today. Arts and grass time.

Yes. Also, this is like right after. You will go to sleep where I will put you to sleep. You're in my world now, grandma. He's a throat-cutting gesture. Did you guys see heavyweights the year before this? Yes, of course. And he's in like a weird villain zone where he's like the only parts I will take is as a villain, I guess.

Maybe that's why he did this. Well, he brings this character back for what movie? This same character? This character reappears in a different movie in a different way, but it's the same character. Dodgeball? Yeah, Dodgeball. Oh, okay. Dodgeball is this guy now is a Dodgeball star.

Same facial hair, same vibe. When I thought I was like, oh. So he's bitter that he wasted this character. I made a joke when I met Stiller that when he was doing the Denamara thing, I was like, oh, are you going to play one of the professional officers? He's well qualified. Dionne Waiter's Award, this is for the biggest heat check in the movie. So somebody who is only for an NBA game plays 12 minutes but makes four threes.

Our nominees, Ben Stiller. Could I trouble you for a glass of warm milk? It helps put me to sleep. You could trouble me for a warm glass of shut the hell up. Now you will go to sleep or I will put you to sleep. Check out the name tag. You're in my world now, grandma. Bob Barker.

Now you've had enough. Bitch. Vern's partner Jack, who has no lines. We used to joke about that as kids. He never speaks. I think it's a sag thing. Because he doesn't actually say a line because we're like, oh, I guess. he doesn't have a good agent.

We don't have to say it. The line he does, he goes, which isn't a word. It's not a word. It's Sandler's best friend. I have it here, Siler. It's his New York University roommate,

Jack Jierpudo, Giaraputo. Oh, wait. Who sits next to Lundquist in every shot. It's honestly like me putting Jacko in a movie. Just be like,

Jacko, you're not going to have a line, just wear a suit and not at Verdeclis. He never says a word. It's something we always picked up. I don't know why. It was weird. It's actually funnier. watching again knowing he's not going to speak

in the different ways he just kind of nods at Fertlundlequist not being allowed to speak. I think Bob Barker, this is an all-time Dionne Waiter's performance and that's my vote. You're already, we're done with nominations? Oh. I just, I wanted to go with the ones who could actually win. I mean, the jackass is a lot of,

Joe Flaherty, Lee Trevino. Nealon. Nealyn. Nealyn. Nealyn. The up down and round is so good. I'll add them, but I. Alan Cover.

We know where this is going to end. I know. We gave rewatchable to Barker, though. Like, Neelan to me is doing the bull dance. Oh, it's so good. Did we give it real? Up down and around. I would give it to Nealyn in this category.

But didn't we kind of change the rewatchable to the opening sequence or not? You can win double categories. Okay. All right. Here's my case for Barker. He's in the game for five minutes. And he's so memorable. He hits seven threes.

Yeah. He scores 21 points of five minutes. That's true. Nealyn probably comes in with like five steals. But Nealyn closes the game. Five steals and like maybe not drop any points, but incites the comeback. Neil is like Frank Nitalinka. He's the coach.

He's like we're not a great defense. He's like the chemist. He's the coach who comes up with the play to win the game up down and a run. All right, I'm voting for Bob. So you guys are going for Nealin? I'm going to go Nealyn. Shocker. Upset.

I think Vern is a candidate too. Vern puts in a hell of a performance as a credible That's true. Golf announcer. He grounds the movie for sure. We have Vern in this next category. Apex Mountain. I think it's a little hard to do not, yes, sir, with Nicholas.

That's got to. So that's what I thought, too. Did some research last night. Vern Lundquist said this is what everybody mentions to him. Really? This is the thing. Vern Lundquist, this is from, he said, in 2016, he gave an interview and he was retiring. He said he still gets a monthly $34 check from SAG for his appearance.

He said, this is him's talking. The other part of doing that movie is the effect it had of my career. The young college kids are really wrapped up in this thing. I'm 76. And it's given me an avenue of conversation with college kids. The line he hears the most, who the hell is happy Gilmore. People coming up to him all day and saying, who the hell is happy Gilmore. So I think this was a Zeypexman.

Nobody's going up to him and going, yes, sir. They're going, who the hell is Happy Gilmore. June 86, Jack Nicholas. Yes, sir. That's Vern's Apex. I don't know. It might be Happy Gilmore. I love Happy Gilmore.

I love Hearn. I do love the Yes, Sir Call. How many people are fucking watching that? Like 20 million people? It's also the best possible call of my favorite golf moment of all time. Father's Day, 1986. How many people are watching television at that time? Chris McDonald?

I'm going to say Apex Mountain. You know what Apex Mountain is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say. I think it's, I think it is. Unless you want to get 30 work. Yeah. Well, he's also in a record.

I think he's incredible in Requiem. Yeah. I mean, he's like really... He's playing another version. He's a TV host. But he's playing a version of shooter. He's just so scaring in that movie. But no, this is probably it, though.

This is, I wouldn't say Requiem if it wasn't for Happy Gilmore, so therefore... It must be so weird to be an actor and for you to have to realize that what people love about you is that there's something deranged about you, you know? Like, his best performance is there's something wild in his eyes, something unbalanced. Well, unfortunately... The answer is this was as Apex Mountain because there's kind of a sad story in 2017. You got a DUI and he got stopped. He was trying to talk out of it and there was a witness who said he was trying to get out of the DUI by saying,

have you seen Happy Gilmore? Oh, God. So that was his go-to-and-you-get out of the D-Y. I see it. A visual confirmation. Yeah, that's a confirmation. When you identify yourself. It's a shooter's turn.

Old school Bruins jerseys. Yes. Apex Mountain. The throwback with the. With the big one with the one B. You know what's weird is we almost put Garnett in a throwback. The broad jersey. That was like part of our costuming with him.

I have pictures of him. It would look good too. It did look great in him. He would have been a little winked. It's a long jersey. Yeah, exactly. It was an extra long. What else do you have for Apex Mountain?

Anything? Is it Dugan's Apex Mountain? Oh, wow. It's better than Billy Madison. Is it? Yeah. I'm not so sure. I talk with, so,

In the Sandler camp, obviously, Billy Madison is very important because it started everything. And they call it Happy Madison Productions. Yeah, exactly. So it's like the, I don't know, it's tough. I mean, he's, he's, he's also a great actor in this. He's incredible in it. So we'll do Dugan very quickly. Happy Beverly Hills Ninja, Big Daddy, Saving Silverman.

Daddy's such a special. National security. I would have said Big Daddy because it made a lot of money. The Benchwarmers, I now pronounce you, Chuck and Larry, Zohan. grown-ups. Just go with it. Jack and Jill. Okay.

Grown-ups, too. That's his, that's his TV. It's Big Daddy. It's Big Daddy for me. I think it's Big Daddy. Big Daddy was, $200 million. And Big Daddy was the movie that really. It's like you see.

That was like Sanler's 70s film. You know what I mean? That was like that was a character-driven, beautiful, complicated character. And the movie is just, it's the movie that, you know, we made us want him, cast him as, as Howard. Yeah. I just got to get something out on the table because I'm feeling this over and over again. Do you guys like Zohan?

Oh, I love Zohan. Yes. You don't love Zohan? Wow. Oh, my God. I love Zohan. What am I missing with Zohan? Well, the Saudis are Jewish and I grew up on Long Island.

Yeah. I see something. Is that movie considered to be not successful? In what regards? Or is it like a cult aspect of it? Okay, let's put this way. My friend's son was getting bar mitzvahed. that makes him 13.

And last weekend. Like I don't know what a bar mitzvah is. I don't know if some people in the ringer aren't listening, don't know what bar mitzvah is. There's only 14 million Jews in the world. But his son, all he couldn't believe that I made a movie with Adam Sandler. And all he wanted to talk to me about was like, I am Steve. Your Steve knows like, no, I am stiff.

First of all, the fact that the movie were like centers around Paul Mitchell is unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, the whole opening in, as him as a terrorist fighter is, is amazing. John Tutorro as a terrorist. The movies and like some of that stuff in New York is just unbelievable. It's so funny. And also, Sandler's jacked in it. You know, you'd always talk about it.

He's like, I always lets you know I was jacked when we did Zohler. He is. He's shirtless a lot in it. He's well hung. You know what I mean? He's pretty. He's pretty jacked when you see him in Happy Gilmore because he's got that sweater on. He's like, he's pretty big.

Yeah, but Zohani's next level. A superhero. That's a superhero movie. Yeah. It's a comedy written by Adam Sandler, Apatow, and Smigel. It's amazing. Smigle is a genius, yeah. He's a good.

Smigle's pretty good as the... And Gilmore IRS agent. Yeah. That's one to put out there. You hate me now, don't you? The Joey Pants Award for Best of That Guy. I personally think it's Richard Kiel because it's like, oh, Josh is for Moonwaker, and I'm not sure. You're the only person I know who knows his name.

Well, because he was in the longest yard, which is one of my favorite movies. Longest yard's amazing. Yeah. It's the first great sports movie. Which Sandler remade. Yeah. Which I'm still bitter about. It's so bad?

That's not bad. I don't feel like you can remake the All-Timers. Yeah. Like, if they remade did the Godfather, would you take a person? You know, we're not doing the remake of 48, right? Oh, is that official? You were going to redo it in a way that wasn't. different.

The problem was that we sat down to write it and we just don't know how to remake something. So we just ended up writing something that was totally original and it's just, you know, not 48 out. I met Walter Hill recently and I told him, I was like, let's just get this out in the open, like not remaking your movie. But yeah, you're right. It wasn't. But Longest Yard was more of like a pretty straight. You made a lot of money. Yeah.

I don't know if you can remake Jack Cates. And also Jack Cates says not age well, but I still love them and I don't care. Can you remake Happy Gilmore? Whoa. No. See, that's the thing. That's the thing. There's no reason to.

More Joey Pants candidates. Joe Flaherty, we mentioned. Yeah, for sure. I was kind of said that Joe Flaherty is of that guy and not like a Nate. I mean, he was on one of the all-time great comics. He's kind of the, yeah. There's a big SCTV doc coming soon, I think, which hopefully will, I mean, Rick Moranis will be the one who gets fired.

It's weird because it's like there are parts like this where you notice, like, oh, it's that guy. And then that introduces them and their whole kind of, what everybody else, like, if you're a fan, like, oh, that's, you know exactly who he is. But that guy is maybe like a mountaintop for the general public. Yes. Like, Flarety, like, oh, of course, he's like, he's, we know him from the, from television. And he's like, it's just amazing comedy. But most people notice him just from this and maybe search him out for other things.

So maybe that's kind of a good. SCTV needs like a Netflix run or something. It needs to get back into a conscious. I wonder what's up with that and why it's. He probably wins Joey Pants then. Think so? Yeah, I think he does. Next category is...

The Linda Partridge, they knew award for overacting. I think it's the Don't Call Me Lady. Don't call me lady. Linda Partridge was in Magnolades, Julianne Moore's performance. Mista, maybe? For overdoing it? Yeah. Well, that's not a that.

Is she a that guy? Kind of. It's more of a heat check. Yeah, maybe it's a heat check. I couldn't find a lot of overacting in this movie. Carl Weathers kind of goes for it a couple times. I love what he's doing. I don't even want to give it to him, though.

I think he's actually like putting in an authentically good performance in a weird absurd movie. But he's like he bought in. Yeah, he's totally like it's he's chubs. Yeah, he's chubs. I don't feel like anyone really overacts this movie unless you're going to say Sandler, but he's. And maybe you could like, I love the head of the golf tour maybe sometimes. But then you kind of read it in and it's like, oh, maybe he's like the real guy. Yeah.

Even stiller, like, it's the proper overacting. I agree. So I'm going to go zero for that. Francis Bay, maybe, the grandma? We're going to get to her in a second. I have some thoughts. Halfass internet research. We've done a lot of it.

Chubbs' missing hand was an inside joke between Sandler and Hurley about predator. It was also the way that he taps him with that wood hand. Don't worry, solid wood. It's not going to break it all. And then the truck runs over it. Mark Lottie. I was the consultant on the script. The initial draft, he said,

featured happy winning the Masters. They had the green jacket. This is his quote. They were desecrated in the USGA, making fun of Augusta. He suggested happy win a fictional tournament. And Hurley and Sinclair changed the jackets color from green and cold. He said there were five drafts.

He's very like, I was the hero. It's like, fuck off, Mark Lai. One of these people always. Seriously, go choke on a nine iron. Lee Trevino It's very aggressive take on Mark Lai It's like, settle down Mark Lai

It's like oh thank God for me Or else happy Gilmore We're gonna get it's like fuck off No one having that take No one's having that take no Another one who could fuck off Lee Trevino Oh no

He regrets his appearance in the film No really He said if he had known How much swearing there would have been In the film he wouldn't have done it Settle down Lee Yes That's not what you want

Yeah Terrible Bad take There's a Oh we had the deleted scene Where he throws Ben Stiller Through the window Okay that's it

recasting couch. This is where you can recast any part in the movie. I actually have two for this. As I said earlier, I wasn't a huge fan of Richard Cale, Richard Cale because I feel like that was a physical part. He couldn't be physical. Kevin McHale. Wow.

That'd be interesting. End of his cheers run. Wow. We've seen him act a little. Would have been interesting. Big tall, scary guy. He could have the screw coming out of his helmet. It's pretty good, right?

He seems more like a boss from a construction. construction site. Yeah. A little bit. And I love Richard. If he was around. If you were right, the Andre the Chyla would have.

I mean, it's very, very memorable to me. It's one of the, I mean, it's one of the things I quote the most you can count. And the Wade delivers that, you know, there's real time into it. That's two.

That's one more for part. You can count. Yeah. You can count on me. The other one I had was Betty White as grandma. Betty White would have been interesting. I feel like they needed a actress I actually knew in that part instead of just anonymous grandma.

I was going to say Jessica Tandy, but she had died by this point, unfortunately. Or bring her back. You want her up. You want to revive. Irishman. Irishman CGI.

Any other parts you would recast? To me, I wouldn't, I think the movie's perfect the way it is. I wouldn't recast anything. I can't think of one character that bothers me. Grandma's like, but grandma's grandma. You know what I mean? She's just kind of like, and she actually wins her performance in the nasty happy place. Oh, she does.

She goes all in. What? You have another. personality? Yeah. I forgot to mention the happy place scene, Julie Bowen said

they cut out a part where she makes out with the dwarf. I don't know if it was in the not happy place or the happy place, but she said, she starts making out that dwarf.

Picking nets. We're going to pick some knits. I mean, you can pick nits with everything in this, but the major ones for me, you can't drive your car on a golf course. That's not really realistic.

Yeah. There's not car. I went to Augusta two years ago. You could never get a car on it. It's a five-mile walk from where you park your car just to the course. There's no cars anywhere. And also, how is he so juiced in that guy that he can get on to the celebrity? I mean, I guess he's Shooter's boy.

Shooter, maybe the car was... It's a tough one. Maybe the car was under Shooter's name, and that's how he got it so close to the course. In the PGA, now granted, they called this to professional golf league or whatever, and they didn't say it was the PGA. Pro-Golfer's tour? Pro-golfers tour. In the real PGA, the fans are not allowed. to talk on the course.

Is that true? To the golfers, yeah. At all. At all. You're kicked out if you say one. Really? Yeah. But even if there was a happy.

Even when like tigers around, that people are going crazy? Not allowed to talk. Happy gets run over by a Volkswagen? Yeah. The final hole or the final round? And his shoulders are a little messed up. And his shoulders messed up for a couple,

but then it's fine. I like how he gets hit by a car but can still drive it like $2.80. Yeah. You know, he's like still kind of crushing it, but they just get rid of that sound. And it's just like, oh, he's terrible. He's terrible without that sound. What is Christopher McDowell say? He's like a Superman.

There's a, he has a line right after that when he can't drive the ball 400 yards. Well, well, well. Happy Gilmore is human after all. I was trying to think of what would happen if this happened in real life. And it was the last hole of the Masters. And it was like Brooks Kepka and somebody drove on with a Volkswagen and ran him over. And then he's like, Brooks is going to play. Yeah.

What that would be like on Twitter? Oh, my God. Like, oh my God, Brooks got hit by Volkswagen. Yeah, that would blow the sport up 20 times more. So they should just do it. Yeah, they should do it. But you're right. I don't think that that is one thing.

Even when I was 12 and I was watching, I was like, that's absurd. The car is getting on you. But it doesn't matter. You go with it because it's part. And then the great, the great minigolf scene comes back. Yeah. You're going to die, Cloud. So another one is the tower fall.

on the green. Yeah. Shooters already made his put. And then he's insist that happy has to try it off Frankenstein's foot. Right. I'm reasonably sure they might have stopped the tournament for to move the tower off the green. There was an explosion.

The W. actually has, there's an explosion with it. Yeah. That alone would probably delay the tour. Maybe a half hour to convene. Have a couple of PGA people talk about what they should do. This is not really like a realistic portrayal of the GAA.

There was one moment. making nids. There's one moment I always, where you can kind of see the trajectory of the ball. Like, you can kind of see how they guided it into the whole. Oh, you can see the divot in the green. I was like, ah, I wish you couldn't. Yeah, there was a CG where they would have gotten rid of that today. I have some questions about the Waterbury open where just anybody can sign up the day before and win and you get a good card.

That is a good call. What's coming out in Waterbury? Can you do this? Can we fly you to Waterbury? No. I wouldn't play very well. I wouldn't play very well. But that's the genius of Tin Cup is that they, like, convince you that he has to qualify.

It's all about qualify. Happy is like, hello, I'm a professional golfer. But doesn't Chubbs say something to him? He said it's the open, it's the amateur open or something. Yes, and the winner qualifies. But then it's like a, I think it's, it's basically like you get to play with the big boys because you did well in the amateurs. Yes. Another picking knit for me before I get to my biggest picking knit.

I think they missed a real opportunity with Patrick and Oberman. Because this was right around the same time where they could have done this mock ESPN thing about the Happy Gilmore sensation. It had those guys because it would have trapped the movie in 1995 where it belongs. And it was like the missing piece. Just having those guys do their thing about like,

this guy's sitting at 400 yards, Dan. Piggy backing off of the... Well, wouldn't they want to be with you? Yeah, yeah. They would have had to have had some sort of cultural montage where, like, America is talking about... Like David Letterman's on there? I actually think it needed the cultural montage.

You thought it needed that? I think it would have grounded it in 1995 in a more meaty way for me. In a weird way, in this, it's also only really about the golfing world, right? So it's not, he doesn't really care that the larger public is. Some more golf cameos would have, some more golf cameos could have been cool. In my mind, I thought they were all like real. But I do think that golf pre-Tiger was this isolated cultural thing. Yeah, but if you had a guy hitting 40-yard drives.

That's true. Because then the reason I'm glad this didn't work is because Leno would have been in it. And he was like, hey, I'm out of this happy Gilmore. It just would have been terrible. So maybe it's a good idea. Actually, going back, I was thinking maybe if Leno got into the fight, I would be kind of, that's one of those guys. Oh, yeah. Leno.

Yeah. At a car show. Yeah. This guy sucks. Getting him in the job. I would like to see that, actually. Here's my biggest nip. You can't hit that jaw.

No, that jaw. But it's out there. He'd be a good boxer, I bet. No, but you can. No, but you can't do to hit that. What are you going to do to hit that? It's like all jaw. You can't hide.

It's like punching sheet rock. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? My biggest nitpick. I'm fine with all these other nipicks. It's an absurd movie. This just bothers me and as somebody who, you know, value sports movies. So in the final round, he gets mad.

He's hitting in the rough. He takes like six shots. I thought it hits in the water. He takes an eight. And an eight, it's like a 12. Double par. But he hit in the water, too. That's a two-stroke penalty.

It's at least a 10. I thought about the two. Even watching it as a 12-year-old-old, not even knowing the rules of golf, I was like, oh, he's done. He's lost completely. And then they immediately cut to the big leaderboard, and they take him from a minus two to a minus one.

I'm like, what was this, a part 10? But think about it. Okay, so rationally, think about it this way. If you've got a guy who drives the ball 400 yards, that means he's eviling. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right.

So he was, so he was at a lot of five. So he was at, oh, negative two. That's right. That's right. That's right. Oh, in that example. Well, no, they make it seem like, yeah. Tough runy.

Tough bogey for happy go bar. That was 11 strokes. A montage scene. No, I'm not quite logical. He does come back from really far behind, too, in the same way. He's like, it's like one under and then shooters five under and then all of a sudden he's like, it's six over. If you guys ever make a sports movie, I demand to be consulted. No, I mean, one where you're actually like creating a whole world with games.

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Could this be remade as a 10-episode Netflix show? Happy Gamer. I don't think so. You need the momentum of like the perfect economic movie. Yeah, you need the myth and a quality of like sitting. down watching it saying goodbye to happy you know so here's here's where i landed on this you talked about how you can't remake 48 hours you were redoing the script and it ended up just being a completely different script so i even make it seem like it's 48 hours i think you could have happy gilmore

inspired i think the whole concept of just some force of nature being unleashed on the pGA tour that's unlike understruck i mean there are there are a bunch of movies where you do have somebody who's out of place and all of a sudden can play well, right? Well, what I was thinking was... Ladybugs. Ladybugs. But maybe this is like a 25-year-old black guy who's unlike anyone on the tour and gets thrown in and is acting differently and just doing everything differently than everybody

else does and it's like that. But that's not a happy Gilmore rip off. It's something else. But I think that would work as something. Well, the thing that's interesting... The fish out of water thing makes sense to me. It's also, it's not divine intervention with... He just happens to be good.

it at something he never played before. Yeah, the thing is, yeah, the fish out of water thing, of course. That's, that's, that I could see that traveling far. It's, but Happy's more than that. Happy's like, he's, like, he's, like, when that NHL person asked me, it's like, he's a hockey player. Right. You know what I mean? And it's, it's tough because it's circumstance.

So what would a basketball player, like, be like on the PGA tour? If you take, like, Happy's a hockey player on the PJ tour. So if you took like. Well, they both have sticks. So it's like, maybe you have to. Like Russell Westberg. as a PGA tour golfer. Uh-huh.

I don't know. It got my brain moving. It's something. All the ballplayers play golf, too. They all love golf because of Jordan. Charles Barkley's swing is something. Well, Curry's apparently amazing. Really?

That doesn't surprise me at all. This is the greatest thing. Yeah. He's like a happy Gilmore, I bet. He probably drives the ball and is getting hole in ones. I mean, his whole pre-game, like, show is basically happy Gilmore's drive. Right. Just rhythm, rhythm, rhythm.

Just like from the locker room. Yeah. draining shots. answerable questions. I only have two. You guys might have some. Was that the greatest shot, Vernon Lundquist ever called? No. We've gone over this. No. Can I make the case? Okay. Jack Nichols makes a 20-footer. It's great. It's emotional. Raises the putter.

He also called the Iron Bowl kick six. Good one. He called Christian Leitner's shot over Kentucky. Oh. Oh. He called Tiger Woods' chippin at the 2005 Masters. Okay. Okay. I'm still going with Happy Gilmore using the entire tower hitting it off the subway sign, goes in, rolls for 20 seconds, comes right out, he wins the tour

championship. I think it's the most amazing. It's pretty good. But it's a good list. First of all, it's an extended call-up. Thank you. That's just a great, great question. I think it's Leitner. Wow.

I mean, that's pretty iconic. We had some pretty insane arguments over Christian Leitner rookie cards. Latener was, and I remember where I was, I remember where I was watching it and who I was in the room with when he made that shot, which I don't remember where I watched the 2005 Masters. What about Happy Gilmore? You know exactly.

Happy Gilmore. Somerville Theater. Another one. What's real life like in 2019 if Happy Gilmore became a thing? Oh, my God. If we just have this guy comes into the PGA tour and he's like punching people and he probably started our dress. like an Instagram phenomenon.

Oh, yeah. Somebody would capture him at the range, blasting a meme account. Yeah. So that would be how you remake it. Yeah. You make it like he's a social media phenomenon and who goes on the tour,

I guess it would be the twist. But would the tour, like, yeah, would the tour accept that is a question. I think the twist in 2019 is he gets signed to a hockey team. Oh. You know what I mean? You could see that, right? Like that he is this sensation.

And it ends with him actually being a quirky sign. who was the guy on Chicago, the replacement goalie, who came in. Remember this story? No. Oh, it's incredible story. So they have the guy, there's always a person in the audience in case both goalies go out. They call in the replacement goalie from the audience. And this guy was on Chicago.

He was called in and he shut the other team down. They literally pulled their goalie and they were going all after this guy because he hadn't played hockey professionally at all, ever. And he literally, I was like, we have to look up this guy. but I forget his name and it was, I guess it was drawing comparisons to like Happy Gilmore and stuff in the moment because literally this guy came into a game and shut out a professional hockey team

and it was the only time you ever played professional hockey. That's a movie. What about flipping the whole thing? You do a golfer who can't make it as a golfer. Becomes a hockey player? You got the hand eye? Yes, he's got the hand eye. I gotta say the slap shot and the golf swing,

they have nothing to do with each other. They're not really. It makes no sense enough. It's a little bit of stress. I will say hockey players and golf. golfers seem to, like hockey players become good golfers for some. Is that true? Yeah, I knew a lot of people.

Really? Why is it the basketball? Scott Foster. Scott Foster, 36-year-old accountant who lives in Oak Park, Illinois. More than a decade ago, he was a goalie on like a Michigan State team, came in shut out the other team, and he was the emergency backup. Wow. Before we get to him in the movie, can I give you my happy Gilmore sequel? Oh, yeah, let's hear it.

Sequel. This is pretty good. You'll like this. This is instead of remanking. Grandma's alive? No, grandma's dead. Okay. Grandma's gone.

Happy and Julie Bowen are married, Virginia. Okay. All right. Start there. That's great. Yeah, yeah. All right. I'm in.

He's been on the tour for 24 years. He's won a lot of stuff. This is nice. He's wealthy now. He's calmed down. Uh-huh. He's kind of not the happy we remember. It's like what happened to this guy?

Yeah. Kind of sold out a little bit. He's made $300 million. He's got endorsements. He's a little embarrassed about. about mid-90s happy. Doesn't want to talk about that part of his past as much. Now he's this corporate guy,

but he's got a 21-year-old son who's playing hockey in college. Who is all of the bad parts of happy, who gets kicked out after starting like the biggest bench-clearing brawl and Division I, whatever, gets kicked out of school. And then now I'll add this part that we just had, where he's just at a golf range hitting 400-yarders, becomes a social media phenomenon. and now Happy Gilmore has to come to grips with Happy Junior.

Sean's like, don't put this on the podcast, let's just make this. So is the movie called Happy Junior? Happier Gilmore or Happy Gilmore Jr. Happiest Gilmore. Happy Gilmore Jr. All right, if you heard that that movie is being made, would you be in? Starring Adam, Sandler? Adam's in it.

Okay. Adam and Julie Bone are in it. I kind of would be. I mean, I'll definitely see it, of course. It's Salome is. is happy. Let's do it. Or maybe it's a daughter.

It's a daughter. It's a daughter. It's a basketball player. Sure, it's Sir Sharonan. Yeah. It's OPEGA. She takes the OPEGA. That's good.

There you go. Let's still skip on it. All right, who won the movie? Adam Sandler. Yeah. Samler. Francis Bay. Come on.

This is the one that sets him up. Because I think the next two are, is it, wedding singer Big Daddy? What's the order there? This turns it into a nine-figure movie star. So, like, those movies are much bigger box office-wise, but this is the one that I think got people

used to the idea of being obsessed with Adam Sandler. Like, this is the one where it was like, I just need this guy in my life. And in a weird way, it's also the, it is the movie that is Adam Sandler, even like, you know, like, he, the guy who doesn't give a fuck, you know what I mean? The guy who just shows up and is just going to drive it 400 yards. And it has the kind of craziness of Billy Madison, but also a little bit of the naturalism that you're going to kind of see later.

A little heart. Yeah. Yeah. I think it has the, and the story arc of that's more akin to, you know, like a caddy shack in a weird way. For sure. Did you like how I tried to create some drama with who won the movie? Yes. Dugan to Dugan win?

Yeah. No, it's not an option. Carl Weathers supposedly he thinks that this was the biggest, you know, a huge game changer for him that it, you know, showed another side of his actor. Oh, for Apollo Creed? Yeah. Jesus. I mean, because everyone knows he can do Apollo Creed. That's true.

Weather's with a secretly crazy rewatchable's career where he has the first four Rockies. Oh, my God. Predator and Happy Gilmore. He's currently on the Mandalorian. Is he? Is he really? Yeah. That's pretty cool.

He's still alive? He's still alive. Did he still that part from John Amos? He looks younger on the Mandalorian that he doesn't happy Gilmore, which is weird. Well, he's playing. Carl Chubs is older. That's true. So they aged him up a little bit.

I think so. I think so. I think they aged him up, yeah. Because he was, you know, he was probably also pretty jacked underneath that sweater. Definitely. He's jacked in Predator. Yeah. Uncut gems.

When's it come out? Yeah, it comes out New York and L.A. in December 13th and then everywhere on Christmas. It's a Christmas movie, really is. I knew you guys had a great homage to the Celtics in you. And I'm really proud of both you. I had no idea. I'm really proud of both you. Well, it's like, yeah, it's like if you kind of have to just like, if you love basketball, you love basketball.

But sometimes you. When do you guys remake Celtic Pride about somebody... Oh, man. Somebody kidnaps the Knicks honor. Celtic Pride and the fan are both... The fan would be incredible. The fan is the weirdest movie of the mid-noughties. It's a good rewatchable right there.

So you're pro the fan? I love the fan, yeah. That movie is so badshaded insane. It's crazy. It's a pouring monsoon of a rainstorm. And Robert DeNiro is the Empire. I love it. It's very Cape Fear, too.

It's De Niro still doing Cape Fear. A little misery in there, a little misery in there. What came first, did Naked Gun or the fan? Because I feel like the fan just ripped off the umpire stick. You know, that's not, is that, that's not recognized. De Niro just is the home plate umpire. Nobody notices. Nobody notices.

The other empires don't notice, the players. I mean, I bet you, I believe that. I believe that you can pull that off. Yeah, you got the gear on. The other funny thing about that movie is Benicio del Toro is, like, really going for it. Yeah, yeah, really going for it. He's like, this is my break. I'm in a movie with De Niro on Snipes

But I buy it He's like, oh he's real real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was that thing that leaked the, I love it, the MLB umpire leaked like they were miced up. Oh, yeah. That's amazing. That's a movie in there somewhere. Celtic pride though, Damon Waynes.

Oh, my God. I mean, that's, that was a sanctioned Celtics movie, right? Yeah. Yeah. Do Nick's non-pride. Oh, God. Yeah, I don't. So Nick gets kidnapped so they can get a better.

lottery pick. Nick's fans are desperate. Yeah, somebody needs to kidnap Marcus Morris immediately so we can win nine games. Stop shooting. Didn't we do that last year with Chris Staps? Yeah. Yeah, you basically did. Yeah, you basically did.

No. They didn't give him back. Did you read the profile on Chris Staps? No. About that Mark Berman of the Post, Berman of the Post, as Francozalo would say, they just, you know, they did a whole kind of expose that feels like it has the Knicks organization. Oh, yeah.

Trying to bury KV. And that's why. And it went to print a day before his return to the garden game. And it was, they paint this guy, he literally, he was painted like Drago. He was such a villain. Yeah. Talking about, like, parking his car. They didn't have to say this, pulling up to the practice facility and blocking the entrance.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, first time an NBA player was done something weird. I was at the Bucks game where he, the guys from A 24 took me as like, when we were doing gems as like a let's go. They took me to a Knicks game, a Knicks game. and I was at the game, decent seats where KP tore his ACL. And I had a great view of it. It was a, you remember, he was a,

He was playing out of his mind. It was an incredible dunk on the Greek freak. Yeah. And I watched the ACL snap. I saw it. I had like, weird vision of it. And I mean, it's like, oh, that's an ACL terror. He's fucked.

And KP's family was right in front of me. And I wouldn't shut up about how this guy's doing. And the brother turns around and he goes, well, you shut the fuck up. And I was just like, wow. Yeah. It's a sliding doors moment for the franchise. Oh, man. It was tough.

It was a rough moment. Well, some have described uncut gems as the most ringer movie made of the last three years. I think that was me. That's on that. As the most things that were interested in. I thought it was great. I can't wait for it to come out. Thanks for doing this.

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