The Rewatchables - ‘Home Alone 2: Lost in New York’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt

Episode Date: December 24, 2024

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt rack up the room service bill at The Plaza Hotel as they rewatch the 1992 comedy ‘Home Alone 2: Lost In New York,’ starring Macaulay Culkin, Joe Pesci, ...and Daniel Stern. Producer: Craig Horlbeck Video Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:14 The rewatchables is brought to you by the Ringer podcast network where normally Kyle Brand is on a Zoom. And this week, he is here in L.A. He was here for football stuff. We realized that we hadn't even been in the same room together looking at each other since like 2008 February helmet catch? The night before the helmet catch at a Super Bowl party. Is that why the Pat's lost? Exactly why. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:37 We drank tequila and talked about the real world. I just peppered you with real world questions. Non-stop. From that point out, we've only talked on the phone and it zooms. And we've done a bunch of pods together. Yes. And now you're here. And now we're talking about what I think is one of the great Christmas movies of all time.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I love this movie, Bill. I'm ready. Home Alone, too. Colan, Lost in New York, is next. Check in. Reservation from McAllister. To the best Christmas movie ever. I don't think.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Sit right there. Get down on your knees and tell me you love me. I love you. Home alone, too. Your drawers. Don't flash these babies around here. There could be girls on this floor. Ready, PG.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Now play at theaters everywhere. All right. So you send me a list every once in a while. I'm like, hey, we got to do rewatchable sin. Just send me a couple, some 80s, some 90s. And this was your number on Christmas movie you wanted to do. Yeah. Let's have the first discussion.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Let's get it out of the way. Home Alone is a Christmas movie for you? It is, yes. And I know this is a point of contention for you because I listen to the pod. I watch it at Christmas time. I don't watch it any other time a year. So that, to me, is a Christmas movie. Does it need Christmas to exist?
Starting point is 00:04:01 No. It could be a Fourth of July movie when they go to Paris for Fourth of July or for vacation. Spring break. Yeah, why not? Sure. That's my case. This Home Loan 2, colon, lost in New York,
Starting point is 00:04:12 Christmas movie. What's the difference? Because it needs Christmas? It really needs Christmas. It gets New York in Christmas. It captures New York at the most fun time to go to the city. It makes me nostalgic. It makes me want to go to New York for the holidays.
Starting point is 00:04:25 There's a giant tree. There's an F.A.O. Schwartz, which is doctored as another toy store. But now, it's very New Yorkie, very Christy, and makes me nostalgic. and I'm in the camp. I like this movie more than the original. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:04:39 Because I think that group is growing. I've seen these people online, and it's almost unprecedented, but I'm starting to ready to come over for it. Like, get into it. I love Home Alone. You love Home Alone. But the ammunition for the sequel being better is what?
Starting point is 00:04:53 What do you point to? Because I'm not over there yet. 30 plus years of seeing both. The effect that it had on my kids, as we went through the stages of watching the Home Loans of the Kids, Home Alone One is great, great premise. Home Alone 2, really hard to pull off a sequel where there's no way this situation would ever happen again, which we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:05:13 But it just feels like a better, smarter redo of the first movie, which normally I would be against. But in this case, I don't know. I think, I just like it more. My headline for the movie is really good sequel. And when do you say that? Like, when do you see a really good? That's 5% of sequels are really good. you're watching them 30 years later.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And what's fun about it, and maybe makes it better than the first, I love how this movie is so unapologetic. Like, we're doing the same thing, dude, and we don't care what you think. And I know a lot of people like, it's the same movie. Like, yep, we got a cool kid.
Starting point is 00:05:46 We got an asshole family. We got some idiot criminals, and you're going to pay and you're going to come see it again. And I absolutely love it. I think if you're making the case for, why is it better, the most pivotal part of the sequel,
Starting point is 00:05:57 really the only thing they changed up on, the only thing they took a risk on is the whole Tim Curry, performance. Because there's nobody in that first movie. There's no Tim Curry, hotel staff, everything. I think he's great in the movie, and I think if you're saying, why's it better? Tim Curry is
Starting point is 00:06:12 fantastic here. Also, he's protecting his house in the first one. Yes. In the second one, he's basically American psycho. He's literally these adults. I know. And just like torture them for not like five minutes.
Starting point is 00:06:28 It's a 20-minute scene. So my guy, William Goldman, he wrote a New York Magazine essay in 1992 about the holiday season of the movies where he would ask different people in the industry, what do you think? What do you hear about this movie? And a couple of the anonymous people he asked about Home Alone too.
Starting point is 00:06:44 One of the guys said sequels have changed. You used to know rule of thumb that the second one would do a third less, but now look at the diehards and lethal weapons. Sequels can do more but they've got to be exactly like the original when they go to a sequel. People want comfort.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I think that's a good way to describe. Because most of the time this doesn't work, but if I'm going to a thing like this, I just want them to run home alone back with a different situation. It feels like when you go to a concert and you're like, can you just play the hits? I'm here. I'm nostalgic. When the lead singer says, this one's off our new album, I'm shit. I'll go get a beer. They play the hits here.
Starting point is 00:07:20 This is pop music. This is not the godfather. This is a little kid who beats the shit out of criminals at Christmas time. It's great. They just do it again and they don't try to make a different. And I love that they didn't. Two years later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:32 We're starting, I'm grabbing a category from later for right now, the Butch's Girlfriend Award for Weeklink of the film. Because to buy this movie doll, you have to buy the premise that this kid's parents who have already taken off and gone to Paris without him two years ago and left him alone in his house, would somehow leave again without finding that he was not with them. Yes, and get all the way to baggage in the next airport
Starting point is 00:07:58 before they even realized he was gone. It's a big stretch. You have to go into this movie with him, Are you going to sit here and be like, this would never happen, this would never happen, or are you just going to let go? Like, I can't watch this movie with my wife because she constantly says it would never happen. And then the same person always says during the scenes at the end with Harry and Marv, they're like, oh, they'd be dead. Oh, that would have killed them. My wife says that every time they get hit.
Starting point is 00:08:19 So I'm like, honey, can we just enjoy the pop music? I know they would never forget him. It's ludicrous. But I accept that they do, and I have some theories on it. Wait, so your wife, so my wife loves this movie, but gets really mad at the mom. And specifically the scene near the. in when she goes to talk to the cop and and she's like, I know Kevin, he's fine. It's like, your kid's 10. He's in New York City. No, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin's fine. He's a survivor.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yes, that's right. He's smart. He's very independent. And you're like, you are walking through Times Square with flyers past crackheads and people like jerking off in the alleys and you're looking for your son. Kevin's four foot two. No, he's done. He's dead. And I, and the cops are, all right. And she's not that sad. Like, my wife when we were in the Olympics, My wife lost my son for like four minutes in a giant park in London and still talks about it, like once a week, as being the most terrifying moment of her life. This mom is just, it's like she lost her luggage and she's just in baggage claim. Like, can you think? It's like a big blue suitcase?
Starting point is 00:09:19 It's a Samsonite. Yeah, can you send it to me? It is your son or you got lost again. And she doesn't have nearly enough to panic. But you have to let that go or this movie will torment you. You have to. Or could they have written in one scene? where maybe it's just hurting her husband and she's like,
Starting point is 00:09:35 I'm the worst mom ever. And she's like, no, you're not, honey. We have so many kids. Like, something to acknowledge what a terrible parent you are. They just, they won't have it in this movie. There's one scene that I think is critical. And it's the parents who are in the police office talking to the Miami cop. And they try some gallows humor where they're like,
Starting point is 00:09:52 oddly enough, we've never lost our luggage. Ha, ha, ha, ha. And like, the cop doesn't think it's funny. Yeah. I feel like he's reaching for the panic button under the table and he's calling it in. But that is the only scene where they try to wink at the audience and say, we know this is stupid, but we're going to have Catherine O'Hara be charming and try to laugh through it. But they probably need a little more.
Starting point is 00:10:09 It's insane. Like, the bad version of this movie is Kevin's on a cargo plane headed to South America, never to be seen again, given a new identity. Yeah. Kevin's mom, I don't think she takes off without seeing him. Kevin on the airplane, not seeing anybody that he's related to. Even at age 10, I feel like that would make you nervous at some point. You're on the plane for a while before it takes off. No screens?
Starting point is 00:10:33 no seat back screens. This guy's going to sit there. The flight from Chicago to New York is a good two hours. He has no magazine. He has no nothing. And he's like, I'm traveling with nine people. I don't see any of them?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah. He's going to go to the bathroom and look around. So now we're getting all worked up again. Well, no, this is the week link of the film. Yeah. But then here's the other part that kills me. They're in Florida and they're checking in. They don't have Kevin.
Starting point is 00:10:55 They know they don't have Kevin. And they're like, well, let's see what our hotel room's like. Aren't they on a flight back to, like somebody's on a flight. back to Chicago. Because last year they were in France. So like in Florida, like this is nothing. We were across the Atlantic last year eating shrimp and now it's no big deal.
Starting point is 00:11:11 The one that drives me crazy. I hate this so much. The oversleeping gag is so stupid and so pathetic. Yeah. Nine people in a house. When they finally wake up, there's beaming sunlight into their bedroom. That's not how people sleep. It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:11:26 You're going on a flight the next day with all these kids. You're up every hour looking at the clock. Right. And it's like one, One alarm clock got unplugged. There's nine other people in the house. That drives me crazy, too, before they even get to the airport. Yeah, the uncle would have been up at like five in the morning.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yeah, Uncle Frank. We'd be having like an Irish coffee, probably. Like, and they'd be like, let's go, let's go. So the beaming sunlight, they just sleep right through it as adults doesn't happen. With all of that said. Yes. And there's more. You just have to have to shove all that over the side.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I asked you for a list of most unrealistic. I can't believe this happened again, movies. I only had three. other than home alone too, but how many do you have? I had about four. I had four. All right, so we probably both had die hard too? Have to have die hard too.
Starting point is 00:12:11 He even has the line. Can't believe he's in another terrorist situation. Yeah, and he winks at the camera. McLean's like, how's the same shit happened to the same guy twice? Like, he's staying to the camera, we get it. So I think that's the clubhouse leader. What else you got? Speed 2, cruise control?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Great. I don't have it. Great. On the cruise ship. Sandra Bullock, again. Sandra Bullock, who in Speed 1, just on a bus one of the most brutal terrorist
Starting point is 00:12:35 attacks of the mid-90s in L.A. and somehow survives and meets Keanu and it seems like we're going to be together. And now this happens again with a different guy on a yacht. She's on a bus with a bomb on it. And then she's on a yacht with terrorists. And it's Willem Defoe now. But Jason Patrick's there because Keanu didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:12:50 That's a great one. That might be even better. What did you have? Because I have one more good one. There's a scene. There's a scene in Jaws 2 where Brody is like talking of the town.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And he's like, I'm telling you, don't have this boat race. They're like, oh, Brody, you're paranoid. That's not going to happen. It's like,
Starting point is 00:13:06 dun, dun, dun, dun, and then the jobs just shows up. I have that. I always loved that. This is one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:13:14 recurring themes in rewatchables. The guy who is the hero, he's saved everybody. Like, nobody believed in the first time. And the situation happens again. And people are like, get the fuck out of here,
Starting point is 00:13:24 Brody. What do you do? What do you do? The dog's ass, we get it. I got, I wonder, all right,
Starting point is 00:13:29 So this one's good. The taken franchise. Yeah. All right. The daughter gets taken. Yeah. And then second one, the wife gets taken. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I haven't seen the third, but I think, like, his dog or his bike and then eventually his Wi-Fi password gets taken. Like, do you think it's just keep getting taken from him? That's a terrible one, too. What else you got? I have the best one. Weekend at Burnies 2. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:13:50 With the voodoo curse. I love this movie. Great. Weekend at Burney's 2 was already pushing it. No. Just for how long the guy was dead with, like, just how people decompose. He'd been dead for a couple days.
Starting point is 00:14:02 No rigumortus. It's going to be a little gamey. No. So, this is just from Wikipedia. Weekend at Burnies 2 tells the story of Larry and Richard once again, ending up with their late boss's corpse, which is targeted by a voodoo queen hired by mobsters
Starting point is 00:14:16 who want to find the 2 million that Bernie embezzled. That was the plot. This movie was reviled. Like, it was so hated that I actually think it's a rewatchable's candidate for 2025. Weekend of Bernie's 2. Weekend of British 2. Just skip one. Have you guys done Bernie?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Right to do that would be an unprecedented move to go right to the sequel. Unbelievable. It's like four years later, too, where it wasn't even, it wasn't like they were capitalizing on the success. No. It's just a pure money grab. Does it have Silverman and McCarthy in it too? Yeah, it sure does.
Starting point is 00:14:43 He should have made a documentary about that, how desperate he was to make a sequel. Yeah. So yeah. I have one other one. Let's hear it. I'll put from the headlines. The Kansas City Chiefs. It happened again.
Starting point is 00:14:54 It happens every single time. They're down late. They're going to lose. Oh my God. This is finally the week. they lose. No, the other team makes a stupid mistake and they win on a last second field goal.
Starting point is 00:15:02 It happened again in the Chiefs, 2024. That's a great one. We're recording this the day after they won on a 31-yard field goal that hit the upright and went through, which I think when it hits the upright, one in five chance at that point,
Starting point is 00:15:15 usually bounces back, sideway. No. Third string kick or two. I had one more parents' question before we get to McCullochin. Yeah, sure. I can save it, actually.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Where's Culkin? What's the best or worst? Well, where are we going? Culkin 92. Yeah. Biggest child star of the 90s. I'm going to give him that. Massive star.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I'm not saying he's the biggest child star ever. Mm-hmm. But I think for the decade, he's the guy. And Home Alone 1 was 90? Like, he just got in there. Yeah, so definitely massive. I mean, I feel like McCauley Culkin. It sounds ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:15:49 He was an icon. He really, really mattered. It was a big deal. Yeah, because I saw what he made for the movie. He, uh, for the sequel, he made 4.5 million plus 5% of the gross. That's massive. And I'm like, that's like one of those late 2010's Brady's contracts.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah. Where it's like, how come you just don't have half the salary cap and the Patriots? You're the entire team. Colkin, like, you could have told me he got $100 billion for the movie. Right. Like, ah, probably still got short change. Probably earned it. Who's going to see Home Alone 2 if he's not in it?
Starting point is 00:16:20 We found out with Home Loan 3 and Beyond when he wasn't in it. No, total leverage. I don't know if the information's out there. Like, I wonder what Peschi made on the moment. movie because Pesci was huge at the time. And I wonder if he made more because you can make the movie without Pesci, but you can't make it without Pesci. He's the only one you have to have.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah. Some weird research stuff with this. I think it was becoming sad with Culkin. He was so big. By age eight, Home Alone is one of the biggest kids movies of all time, if not. Maybe the biggest non-animated kids movie we had. An unbelievable box office phenomenon. Number one
Starting point is 00:16:53 for weeks and weeks and weeks. Hosting SNL. It's like, what's next for him. The Michael Jackson piece was huge. He's in Michael Jackson's videos. He's having sleepovers. Literally, like, Michael Jackson's the biggest star in the world. He's hanging out with this kid. Culkin was massive. He does My Girl, and he dies at the end.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Spoiler alert. And it's like, you guys killed McCauley Culkin in a movie? How do you do that? After Home Alone, too, he does The Good Son, which is one of the five best movies of the 1990s. Pulp Fiction 1, Good Son 2, Shawshank 3. I took it some
Starting point is 00:17:25 good son this week. I've had some time. I'm here in LA without my family. I cannot believe the end of that movie. I'd seen it, but years, I can't believe what happens. I can't believe. I can't, it's crazy. That woman, she drops him. I, what?
Starting point is 00:17:38 It's been on the rewatchables list for four years. Good son? Oh, yeah. But what's funny about the good son where he plays like basically Damien Omen. He's like an evil kid. Like, kill something around them. Yeah. I'm not positive he's any different home alone too.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Go on. It's the same performance. He's just nobody's, he's not actually trying to kill somebody, Although you could argue if you're just dropping bricks on somebody's head from three stories. Yeah. Creating this deviant, um, psycho, psycho booby trap pit of hell for these two bumbling guys. Maybe that was as bad. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Well, the joke is, you know, he's, he's jigsaw. And he's just, he's completely fucked up psychological and likes torturing and hunting those men. Yeah. That's another reason, like, why they couldn't do another one with, with, with, with, with, Marv and Harry and McCauley. Like, what would the torture have been in the third movie? There was no place to go. It was already the same.
Starting point is 00:18:26 sadistic, sick destruction. Like, he can't, hey guys, I'm going to cut your dicks off. Are you ready? Like, there was nowhere to go with the abuse that they were taking. No, it really would have been just Saw, Saw One. Yeah. He's just the guy putting them in a cellar together where they have to saw something off to Want to play a game, guys?
Starting point is 00:18:44 I'm on my tricycle. Here's barbed wire. Like, I don't want to see that. Was Homeland 2 worse than Saw or was it about the same? Would you have them together? Carrie always saws his leg off at the end. So it was pretty tough. but Stern on that electrical faucet thing until he's a skeleton was rough too.
Starting point is 00:18:59 They really pushed it. They really did. But I like it still. I don't care if you don't. Stern's memory of, Stern wrote a book. Did you know this? Called Home and Away?
Starting point is 00:19:09 I don't know that Daniel Stern wrote a book. Home and alone? Something like that. He wrote an autobiography like two years ago and he had some, he had some Culkin stuff in it. Is that true? He was a sweet kid, but it lived a very different life than my kids.
Starting point is 00:19:21 He didn't know how to play tag or throw the ball around. Tag's a very easy game to learn. Yeah. You just touch the person and they're it. That's the, well, the fact that he put that in the book made me think like, did this, was this kid just in a trailer from age four? Yes. Never playing with anyone other than Michael Jackson. Then he wrote, we realized he had formed a friendship with Michael Jackson because when we picked him up, his hotel room was stacked.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Literally from wall to wall and ceiling the floor with toys. Every conceivable toy, as if someone went through toys or us, took one of each and dropped them in his room, all gift from Michael Jackson. It made us all feel really. bad for Mac. My kids had experienced a taste of the distortions fame can bring, but seeing what Mac's life was like put things in a different perspective. I'm cringing as you read that.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's pretty tough. It makes me uncomfortable. This was before we were kind of self-aware about a child actor star, like putting in checks and balances. Yeah. Because you could see this going sideways. The weird thing is he dates Milakunis in his late teens, and they dated for like five years.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And it seems like there could have been a good actor, like adulthood thing for him, instead his brother took it. Yeah. Karen, who's in this movie. Yeah, and you were thinking the onset stuff, it's like, your little brother's there.
Starting point is 00:20:30 That's your buddy. You're not buddy with Jacko. Like, your buddies with Kieran. You're going to go do your homework together and play with toys. Look, McCauley has spent, like, the last 15 years swearing to anyone who'll listen that nothing weird happened with Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:20:42 He says it over and over again. He's like, yeah, we had sleepovers and stuff, but nothing happened, nothing happened. And he said in a million platforms. So, I don't know. Maybe nothing did, but, I mean, aren't Pesci and Stern when he's Michael Jackson has shown up to visit the kid and giving him toys and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Isn't Chris Columbus what's what's what's Michael Jackson doing here? It's weird. I'm triggered by it completely, but maybe it's because it's 30 years later. Yeah, I just, we're both parents. Yeah, I'm Nick. The concept of an adult coming over to hang out with your nine-year-old son would just raise my flag right away. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:21:12 My son's nine. I barely want to hang out with the, no, we want to play. We want to play tag. Let's have a water balloon fight. You're going to sleepover. Like, what? I'm nine, too. No, you're not, Michael.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Yeah, you're definitely not. I think McCauley is also the godparents of Michael's kids. Like, I read that. So there's all sorts of connective stuff there. But McCauley, look, McCauley's married with kids right now. Like, I think he's doing all right. I think it's turned out better for him because when, you know, I'm slightly older than you, but my generation watching these TV child actors.
Starting point is 00:21:40 It was always going bad. And I think now that we're in the 21st century with like the young Sheldon type guys, it feels like it's a little better. There's more awareness of playing it safer with some of these people. Look, Chris Columbus, okay? So he says, I would have done some things different with McCauley. Next decade later, he starts directing the Harry Potter movies. He's got these three little kids that he's basically going to raise.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And he talked really effusively about I did things different. I learned some lessons. And, like, I think it has changed a lot because, you know, when I was a little kid, it was like the different strokes cast and it was just like a disaster from start to finish. But I think, listen, just recently, McCauley went viral for posting like a Joe Burrow picture because people say Joe Burrow looks like him. And it's like, that was showing, like, humor and, like, it was good to see him. I think he's doing, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:23 considering what he's gone through. I can't imagine being that famous when you're like eight years old. No. How to even process that, when your brain can't process anything. You have no idea who you are at that point. Pretty strange. Very strange. There was the Cessonnell sketch.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I remember the early 90s when Susan Day hosted. I think it was Susan Day, where it was all the child actor criminals, and they were all getting together to plan some heist, and there was an undercover cop. I like the sketch. Von Aducci. But that was the mental. in the early 90s when Home Alone was happening.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And I think everybody who saw these movies doing well was like, oh man, this guy in 10 years, it's going to be a disaster. You just were so used to it going badly. It seems like it's gone okay for him. The contrast, too, is that his co-star and the good son, Elijah Wood has looked at as like the gold standard of a child star who grew up and it seems to completely have his act together. It's been very successful. So I think McCauley got crapped on a lot because there were some dicey stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And he's talked about abuse and all that with his parents. And it's just not good. But I think he's doing all right. I'm happy for the guy. Like, we all grew up McCauley in one way or another. Like, if something bad were to happen, him, I'd be crestfallen. I think he's doing all right.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I think I got off the train with getting even with dad with Ted Danson. I never saw the movie. I'm aware of it. Done. Is it just bad? Richie Rich for me. Great supporting cast in this movie that includes Joe Pesci, who is having a fucking heater in 1992.
Starting point is 00:23:45 He's dropping my cousin Vinny, Home Alone 2, and Lethal Weapon 2, all in one year. That's a year. And that's like, Action, kids, comedy. That's about as good... And coming off Goodfellas, that's almost like...
Starting point is 00:23:59 I can't even think of anybody who had four different types of movies like that in a two-year span. No, I mean, everybody looks at Carrie's 94. He did Dumb and Dumber. He did The Mask, and he did... I don't know what the other one was. But he's like three bangers in 94.
Starting point is 00:24:16 But the Pesci diversity, where he's in basically a kid's movie. Yeah. And then he's Tommy, like, stabbing Bill. really blanks death. You know what I mean? Like, he did it all.
Starting point is 00:24:25 He was, I mean, he was top five movie star in the world at the time when he made this movie and he's running around chasing after Kevin. It's nuts.
Starting point is 00:24:31 It's also funny to watch this thinking of him as Tommy and Goodfellas as he's reacting to some of the situations. Bing, bang, pow! And then Daniel Stern, who was in both city slickers
Starting point is 00:24:43 in the two Home Alone movies and is like kind of shockingly good in this movie. He's fantastic. Really over the top, funny, like not overacting. Just really good. The recasting for that part is he has Michael Richards energy,
Starting point is 00:24:55 like the physical comedy and the electrocution. He's basically Kramer. Yeah. And he's really, really good. Before Kramer was massive, he's great in that part. Tim Curry, you mentioned. Excellent. John Hurd, Catherine O'Hara.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And then Rob Schneider. It's the bellhop. Pretty solid cast. Yes. Do you think Rob Schneider wanted to work at the plaza just because he heard Donald Trump owned it? And he just wanted to be close to him. He didn't know that yet.
Starting point is 00:25:19 He knew this is going to pay off from me down the road. He knew 30 years later. He's really good in this movie. Strongcast. And also one of the big things with this movie, one of the biggest and best New York City movies. There's been a million movies filmed in New York City. I don't know if there's a lot of movies that use all of the city the way this one does.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It plays all the hits. We're in all the different parts. You can see the World Trade, the original World Trade Center a couple times, and you get to see the Plaza, which I think is probably one of the most iconic. New York hotels, Central Park. We just go, we move around the city during the holiday season in a way
Starting point is 00:25:57 that, I don't know how many movies have done it. No. He's uptown in the Brownstone, too, for the final acts, time square, all that stuff. It's a great, great Manhattan movie, and it makes you want to go there on Christmas and stand up front of the Christmas tree. Totally. And they know what they're doing there. Like, that stuff is
Starting point is 00:26:13 contagious. I love this as a New York movie. Early 2009, my daughter was like between three and a half and four. We went to New York City for the weekend. because she loved the Home Loan movies and we went, we stayed at the Plaza Hotel and we went to the toy store
Starting point is 00:26:27 and it just felt like this is something we should do, right? This is, now the movie's coming to life. But the Plaza, which was always like a pretty famous New York kind of destination place, but I think this, this movie really hammered at home
Starting point is 00:26:42 in a different way. To me, it's the Home Alone 2 hotel now. Yeah, and listen, we do the, the Benihana Award, like it's the Plaza, like the scene ceiling location. Yeah. And they really shot it there. Not only the lobby, that actual suite is shot.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And that's not a set. That's really in the plaza. There's one spoiler. Because my wife and I stayed there once too. And we were talking about, we had seen Home Loan two bunch of times. And we're like, hey, where's the pool? And they're like, oh, there's no pool here. That's not, that wasn't in the plaza.
Starting point is 00:27:08 That's in Chicago. So the plaza does not have a pool. That's the one thing made bullshit. But we were ready for the pool. No pool. Jesus. Yeah. Directed by Chris Columbus, written by John Hughes.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Yep. Still on an all-time heater. $28 million budget made $359 million. the third highest grossing film released in 1992 behind two movies, can you name them? I think I know one. I think one of them was Aladdin with Robin Williams
Starting point is 00:27:32 and I don't know what the other one was but I think it came out like maybe the same weekend or right next to it. What is it? The bodyguard. Oh, massive. Mazza banger. Costa and Whitney.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Massive. They beat Kevin McAuster. Man, Costa, Whitney, Kevin McAuster and Aladdin. That was our big four for 19192. too. Roger Ebert. Two stars.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I get it. It's fine. I respect it. I think he got upset about the violence. People did. Cartoon violence is only funny in cartoons. Most of the live action attempts to duplicate animation have failed
Starting point is 00:28:10 because when flesh and blood figures hit the pavement, we can almost hear the bones crunch and it isn't funny. Hard disagree, Raj. You ever see somebody gets stable in the nuts, Raj? It's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:28:21 That doesn't have to be a cartoon. It's funny. Which totally violent, excessive part wasn't funny, Raj. I like them all. Let's go one by one. You got the CompuBox? I do have it later. Let's go.
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Starting point is 00:29:11 and they realize he's not there culminating in the... Kevin! Kevin's not here. Kevin's not here. Kevin's not here. Kevin's not here. Kevin's not here. Kevin's not here
Starting point is 00:29:22 What? Is there anything you would have before that? No, I mean, unless we did the final act, the Saw movie. Like, as, is the, are you talking chronologically? I'm just saying before that scene is it. Oh, no, no, no, no. Okay. No, that's where it gets cooking.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Because I actually really, really hate the scene at the children's concert where Buzz, like, bullies them. It makes no sense. All the parents start laughing at the little kid. I had that in what stage the worst. Nobody would ever laugh at kids at a concert, ever. Why did they think that scene made sense? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:00 What he's doing to him isn't even funny? It's an easy cut. Terrible. Yeah. But no, that's the first one. Kevin's first few minutes in New York City when he buys fireworks in Chinatown. Awesome. This is like, you're just preaching to the choir for the age range of four to ten.
Starting point is 00:30:17 It's probably when I wrote down, it's the little kid equivalent of going to a strip joint. It's true. Just being like, yeah, I'm going to go buy some fireworks. And then I'm going to set them off. It's the last vestige before it gets said. sexualize. Right. Because after a little old, you're going to buy a Playboy.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah. And then like a penthouse and then a huddler, and then you're just going to strip joint. Yeah. So he buys fireworks. Fireworks. I'm going to set them off and they're going to make noise. Fucking awesome. Kevin gets a free limo and pizza and Coke for NYC limo ride.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Limbo's got TV bill. I mean, that blows your mind in that back then. There's a lot of jealousy if you're a kid. And of course, I saw this as an adult. So I don't even know why I would totally know this. But you're just leaving vicariously through all these things. That would be like, that would be amazing. if you're nine years old.
Starting point is 00:30:58 It was like when we used to watch Silver Spoons or if you watch Richie Rich, like this guy has awesome stuff. It was the same deal. Pizza, limo, like Kevin was just killing it. Like, picture me rolling. Like, he was a total badass. Silver Spoons.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah. I talked to, I had Bateman on the podcast once was really talking about it because he was Schroeder's buddy in that show. Yeah, yeah. And I think he thought I was being like semi-ironic or, and I was like, no, I genuinely love Silver Spoons.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I think he was surprised. I know you, definitely. Definitely sincere. And then he was in that's, what was it called? That it's your move, Bateman for one year. Oh, that's a show? He, he was in the Valley, the Hogan family. They spun him off from Soverspoons into Itchermove.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Same character? It was basically, young Bateman. He's the son of a divorced, like it's a mom. It's just him and his mom, single mom. Great. And there's some neighbor that likes her. And the whole show is just him trying to foil the neighbor. It was a terrible idea for sitcom.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I loved it. I watched every episode. The neighbor has to be Ted McGinley, right? I don't know who. I can't remember who it was, but it was somebody like that. What was it, Paulian? It's your move? Did you talk to Bateman about it's your move?
Starting point is 00:32:07 He was just stunned that I remembered it and loved it. But I really did. I really, I always liked him as a kid actor. And then it eventually led to the Hogan family, which I did not watch. Because I've heard that Bateman is not real interest in talking about Teen Wolf 2. Like, it's not his favorite time. No. No.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I mean, it's not a good movie. Who cares? It's not. Maybe as he gets older. I would think so. Yeah. I don't know if there's been a lot of smartless episodes about it. Next episode, or next scene, Kevin gets chased by the wet bandits,
Starting point is 00:32:38 pulls the pearls on the sidewalk trick. By the sticky bandits. Oh, they're now the sticky bandits, by bad. They have been rebranded. The pearls, the old pearls on the sidewalk. And then fans off everybody at the hotel with the videotape, which he's just the best at. I'm terribly sorry, sir, but I'm afraid you're mistaken. We're looking for a young man.
Starting point is 00:32:59 All right. I believe you. But my tummy can't talk. Get down on your knees and tell me you love me. On your knees. Like nobody, has any sports analysts worked the Telestrator better than Kevin McAllister works the videota? Mike Fetella was great. He was the czar of the Telestrator.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Right. Just pause, pause, perfect lines, able to fast forward over other dialogue. The fact that he, there was always, listen, if you've never had a remote control, and the VHS tape or whatever it was, there's always this weird lag. It's like trying to pump like $10 perfectly of gasoline. It's very hard to hit. Never happening.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And he nails it. Just crushing it. Also a hotel VCR. No, come on. There's no way. No. Next rewatchable scene I have. Wisdom from the Pigeon Lady,
Starting point is 00:33:49 which I then wrote in parentheses, one of the worst scenes of the 1990s. I wasn't always like this, you know. Oh, what were you like before? I had a job. I had a home. I had a family. Did you have any kids?
Starting point is 00:34:05 No. But the man I loved fell out of love with me. That broke my heart. And whenever the chance to be loved came along again, I ran away from it. This scene, go on. From a rewatchable movie standpoint, is mesmerizing.
Starting point is 00:34:29 He's like a 10-year-old kid. He's lost. He doesn't know where his parents are. Here's crazy pigeon lady covered in pigeon shit. And she just has a heart to art with him. And she's like, I had a man and he left me, my heart was broken. When your heart's broken, sometimes you land here. And it's like, you're insane?
Starting point is 00:34:47 Why are you talking to a little kid about this? I love it. I have it written down first ballot Hall of Fame pee break scene. I would much rather watch Ron Vergany play the flute than listen to the shit covered old woman in Carnegie Hall says she got her heart broken. Like, there's a lot of takes about that in what we have. Like, week, link of the movie, like, all of that. I don't understand anything that's going on there. And listen.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Is she teaching him about the holiday spirit deep down? Is that what they're going? Well, I'm trying to understand, like, what they're going for with Pigeon Lady. This is what they're going for. Hughes always has to have heart. You can't just have fun all the time. Like, in the breakfast club, we're going to get high and cry about our parents. It's not just all fun.
Starting point is 00:35:27 My problem with it, though, is this movie already has that component with the old man at the toy store. and him saving the kid's money that's going to the hospital. He waves at the sick kid. There's already a lot of heart. Yeah, we already have Roy Wally. Right. We got Roy Wally. We have the wistful scenes with his mom.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I don't know what the bird lady is doing here. And yes, she resolves the sticky bandits at the end. They could have come up with something else for that. That scene is unbelievably boring and so long. She's still talking about her love and her heart get broken. I have a million questions about that scene. Carnegie Hall does not let vagrants just go up in an attic and chill. What is that?
Starting point is 00:36:02 She has a studio apartment at Cardigan Hall. We got harps and pianos and lean over. Watch the concert, Kevin. I get to see the finest music ever. Are you paying them? It is the most renowned concert venue in the United States. And this homeless woman literally covered in shit gets to come and go how she wants and bring kids.
Starting point is 00:36:20 What's she doing up there with that kid? It makes me so angry at that scene. It's terrible from start to finish. It would be like if it was a sports movie and she's just like climbing in a Lambo with somebody like, hey, it's Saturday football today. They let me stay up by the head. Come on.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Come on with me, buddy. I'm in the owner's suite. Covered in shit. And they're just, that's fine. That's just the bird. It makes no sense at all. Terrible scene.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I have it as rewatchable because it's so bad. I watch it trying to figure out what's actually happening and why they thought this is a good idea and why they didn't edit it. Next one. Kevin sets up all his traps.
Starting point is 00:36:56 That whole, the setting up montage scene where he's basically like, this is going to be a merit. He's Patrick Bateman in 15 years. He's going to absolutely kill people,
Starting point is 00:37:06 carve them up in a bathtub. Yeah, and bathing in their blood. Yeah, and put them away. It has the great energy because it's like the suit up scenes that we like and something like Commando.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Yeah. I was just strapping on weapons. And I got rocket launchers and guns and grenades and like Kevin's just getting ready to kick the shit out of these two idiots. He's got nail guns. Yeah. Roger Eever doesn't like that.
Starting point is 00:37:25 It's awesome. Kevin annihilates the two crooks for 15 solid minutes, which includes he dropped four bricks on them from a three-story height nail gun through the door multiple times including right in Daniel Stern's face almost takes out his eye slippery goo in the ladder so Peschi falls
Starting point is 00:37:41 20 feet bag of plumber tools falls on Pesci's head slippery goo on the floor so Stern falls backwards electrocutes the sink which I think is just a murder I don't think Stern survives that under any circumstance like he's dead
Starting point is 00:37:56 dead corpse sets Pesci's head on fire and then he goes to put it out in the toilet and the toilet explodes. Another murder. I think they're both dead at that point. I think that toilet is filled with kerosene or something and his face is in it. So he'd be at least like wildly disfigured.
Starting point is 00:38:12 He's at least like a paraplegic. See, now we're doing the thing that my wife did. He'd be dead. He'd be dead. But this is what you do with this movie. They're both dead at this point. He hits bar with a 100 pound bag of sand from distance. Hits both of them with that giant metal.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I don't know is a metal stick, whatever that thing is? I think that'd be like lead pipe thing that comes down. Yes. Yes, that one's like that's devastating. Yeah, that one you're not waking up from. Hits them with the giant tool chest that presses them against the wall. Cair's seen rope trick that he sets on fire. And they fall, I don't know, 40 feet.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And then 25 to 30 pink cans laying on top of them. And then he taunts them with stuff like nice night for a neck injury. He's basically Vontes perfect. It's true. Just taking a wide receiver. Antonio Brown over the middle, the crown of the helmet, a brutal moment. My question to you about that whole CompuBox you did. Do you have a favorite, but one of those?
Starting point is 00:39:02 Like when you're watching, you're like, oh, fuck, yes. Like, what's your favorite? I do. I really like the kerosene rope trick. I just like how they set it up. It's like, what's that smell? The guys are so stupid. Was that after shave?
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah. And then it put you in a what do boat? Nothing. You aren't aftersave? That's not aftershave. That's carousine. A rope is soaked in it. Now, why would anybody soak a rope and kerosene?
Starting point is 00:39:25 Merry Christmas. Go up! You just drop. Go up! Go up! saying go up and they can't get up the rope. What was your favorite? I think it's that lead pipe thing that hits both of them.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Oh, because he fakes them out with the swinging pants. And Harry and Mark think they're smart. It hits both of them. And then they fall down through the hole in the floor all the way to the basement. And then he cuts it and it lands on him like macho man off the top rope, like a finisher move. Yeah. That's the one where I laugh out loud. That lead pipe thing, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Last one I had was the mom realizing she knows where Kevin is. and I wrote down, she's reprehensibly calm. No wonder he's a psycho. She goes to see him. No embrace, they kind of like, they're kind of like, oh, I knew I'd find you. Yeah, here I am.
Starting point is 00:40:20 It's like, I don't know. I knew I was here. Well, I know you in Christmas trees and this is the biggest one around. I wish everybody else. They're at the hotel. They didn't like palm trees either. My wife would have been way more excited
Starting point is 00:40:50 to see her son that she'd been separated from by multiple states. And was passing flyers out? Yeah. I have some thoughts on this later, and I think there's a reason that Kevin is not excited to see her. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Oh, great. I can't wait. So what's your most rewatchable scene? Give me the chaos. Give me the chaos in the apartments, the destruction. That's how they marketed this movie, too. They sold it like,
Starting point is 00:41:13 Kevin's going to beat him up some more. Come on, folks. And it worked. Today's the most rewatchable scene brought to by Paramount Plus. The Soliday season of Making Your Mission to Watch, every mission impossible on Paramount Plus,
Starting point is 00:41:23 every dangerous secret, every heart pounding chase, every impossible jaw dropping stunt. Now streaming on Paramount Plus. Okay. What's the most 1992 thing about this movie? Okay. You got some?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Clock radios. Great. Paper boarding passes. That could, if you knocked a flight attendant over, it would cause mass chaos and you could get it on plane, that's not happening anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:47 And Harry rips up Kevin's paper ticket and Kevin's like, Oh, my God. How am I going to be getting on the flight? My ticket's ripped up. Now we have putting your iPhone to check in, and they're going, you got to turn your light up higher. It's not, no, you got to just push it while seven people are pissed up.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I hate putting my phone on that thing because then I'm going to put it next to my face. Yeah. That's sick. You got to put it closer. I don't want to. Yeah, I don't want to. Do you mind if I don't touch? We, most 1992 things about this movie, the original World Trade Center.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah. Which apparently they cut out of the movie for like 50s. 15 years on the rebroadcast, which I can't believe. And then by 2018, they were like, what are we doing? I was very surprised they did that. It's sobering. It's the fact that he's up there and it's like this symbol of New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And the thing... But I like it now because that was such a big part of the city. I don't like a racing history. 1992. That was one of the biggest landmarks the city had and it should be in the movie. I also have it for Great Shot Gordo coming up. They do this incredible, I guess it's a helicopter. I didn't have drones back then.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Right. But Kevin, and they pull back and like, wow, look. how cool New York is. Yeah, yeah. It's an awesome moment. It really is. 1992. A benevolent Trump cameo?
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah, that's a good call. Rob Schneider has a hotel bellhop. Although maybe things would circle around where in 2024 he might be playing the hotel bellhop again. Or he might be an actual hotel bellhop at this. Or that too. Kev, the Kev Meister. That was him.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Ticking ass. Cookies. Give her the fruit stripe. They made a whole career out of that. had that one, too, tipping somebody with a fruit stripe. Do they still make fruit stripe? I think they do. I haven't seen it. It's a giraffe logo. My take on fruit stripe, and I don't think they're a sponsor, fastest flavor losing gum on the market. You got like nine shoes and it's gone. Is fruit stripe still with us? I hope. I grew up with it. One of the
Starting point is 00:43:40 searches is fruit stripe discontinued question marks. Oh yeah. So people care about the brand. I think it's because of this movie. Well, the winner for 1992 thing, unless you have any more, you want to throw me out. I'll submit one. Okay. When Kevin's rolling in the limo and he's eating the pizza, he is drinking a Coca-Cola classic. Oh, I didn't notice that. Oh, man. I like Coca-Cola classic. It's great. So they changed the formula to compete with Pepsi. And then people are like, what the fuck? This new formula sucks. Well, we'll give you Coca-Cola classic, which is the old formula to the young people that must be nuts. But they used to have a can of Coke and it would say classic on it. It just brought me back watching it. Honestly, it would be like if we just completely
Starting point is 00:44:20 changed to rewatchables and had different categories and it was just a completely different podcast. People were like, what the fuck? Yeah, bring back rewatchables classic. And now I was like, right, rewatchables classic is here now with the old categories. Remember when the NBA changed the ball for like five minutes? Right. Everybody got so mad. What is this?
Starting point is 00:44:37 And Shaq was so pissed. He's like, this ball's terrible. Yeah. And then they went to Spalding Classic and they brought it back and they haven't changed it since. Well, the winner of this category is the talk boy. Yeah. Let's talk about the talk boy, Bill. This is perfect.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So it was designed as a prop for the film. by Tiger Electronics with an eye on the 1992 holiday season and boy did it work because it was the best-selling toy of 1992, the talk boy. It's basically a tape recorder? Yeah, I think it's just like having like a reporter's tape recorder, but it has that little kind of protrusion on it, which I think maybe gets some distance or something.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I know this. There's another 1992 thing. They also decided to sell a pink and orange colored talk girl because they were selling it to, it was the talk boy. And the talk girl, it's a real thing. And that's how they used to do it back then. It was like, oh, the girl's toys, the boys' toys. There was a talk girl.
Starting point is 00:45:27 How about that? Don't remember Talk Girl. It was. I had sisters. Well, they also had video games based on Home Alone 2 made by Sega Genesis, Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Game Boy, and personal computers. That was a runner-up for most 1992 thing about the movie. That was kind of the big quartet along with computers.
Starting point is 00:45:46 It's a ton of video games. There's a guy out there called The Angry Video Game Nerd. who plays old video games online, and he got McCauley to show up and play home alone games with him, like a couple years ago. Really? And it's,
Starting point is 00:45:56 it's an unusual watch. What was the home alone game? I definitely did not play that one. It was one of those games. He's just in New York, like trying to drop stuff on people? No, I remember mostly he was in the house from the first movie.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And it's just awful. It's nothing like the movie. It's just, they're not even trying to make a game. They're just putting in Kevin McAllister's face and sell it. Like, I got suckered into buying
Starting point is 00:46:12 so many of those bad video game movies. There's awful. The Rambo video game was terrible. the Friday the 13th game is legendary bad. E.T. is iconic. They usually suck if they're... You know how they say they can't make
Starting point is 00:46:22 video game movies? Like, it's hard to make. They can't make movie video games either. It says it goes both ways. I can't think of any good ones. I don't know. I mean, there's... Listen, we can go deep.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I'm just saying from 80s, 90s. I can't remember anyone based on a movie or a TV show that I was super excited to play. The best one that was based on something was the WWF game with your tag team. I don't know if you ever played that one.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Played all of those. The tag team. was like big boss man and you can team them up with Andre the Giant those were amazing but your point like do you ever remember
Starting point is 00:46:52 me like oh I love this Predator home video game or this Terminator home video game arcade game sure some of them but they didn't really do it that much until they got things like Aladdin and Lion King but those are like Disney products the 48 hours video game
Starting point is 00:47:05 would have been great where Jack Cates was just saying inappropriate racial comments to Reggie Hammett and then Reggie Hamm would punch him what's age the best The Plaza Hotel. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Huge. Basically an advertisement for how cool the Plaza Hotel is. I don't even know. I haven't stayed there since I went with my daughter. I have no idea where it stands in 2024. We were probably five years ago. It's classy, super classy.
Starting point is 00:47:31 That's the thing. And it's like the kind of place you have tea on the first floor. And there's like five, seven-year-old aunts having tea. Somebody's putting a little nip in one of them. Yeah, definitely a little flat. Growing up in Chicago, I looked at Plaza as the Plaza as the symbol of wealth in New York City. I also looked at Trump. Where's it in Chicago?
Starting point is 00:47:50 No, I mean, I would... No, but where's the Plaza in Chicago? Is it? No, there isn't one. It's just like, when I would look at New York, I'd be like, wow, the Plaza is what New York is all about from my Chicago perspective. But I thought you said they had the pool and the... So it's the pool.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I think it's in like a four seasons or something. Oh, it's not a Plaza. No. So there's only one Plaza in New York. Yeah, that's it. That's the one. That's also makes it special. Well, the one, what's the one in Chicago that you have, the old school hotel?
Starting point is 00:48:12 Well, there's a couple of them. Now we're side-boring. We're deep into Chicago hotel. There's that one. It's like that old one near where MJ used to live. I'm blanking on it. Yeah, I don't know what it is either. I think my sister has like...
Starting point is 00:48:25 Oh, the Drake. The Drake. Yeah, the Drake Hotel. Yeah, the Drake Hotel. Yeah, the Plaza for Chicago. They reference the Drake Hotel in Mission Impossible One. We were just talking about that movie. What stage the best?
Starting point is 00:48:34 F.A. Schwarz is Duncan's toy chest. They just basically flipped it over. I have a bunch. Give me your best before. I love that just everybody's back for the sequel. That age as well. Yeah. There's not a...
Starting point is 00:48:46 They only change one sibling. One of the... It's one of the ones you don't give a shit about. Yeah. But there's not a George McFly recast in Back to the Future, too, where, like, we couldn't get Crispin or we couldn't get Uncle Frank even. Like, everyone's there. I like that in a sequel.
Starting point is 00:48:58 It's full set. The dad's not different. No, it's our same dad, same everybody. And that's just like... Same movie, dude. It works. I think that's a big part of it, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:07 What else you got? The fear of losing your kid in an airport, it's funny to have watched this when you're younger, I think even through your mid-20s before you have kids, you kind of still watch movies from the kids' perspective, even though you're grown up. But then when you become a parent, you watch her from the parents' perspective. And to hustle through an airport being late for a flight with eight family members, it would be like my idea of hell. I'd be so nervous, we're not have a bag, somebody, like, you're just scrambling around. So I'm not defending the McAllister's because they lost Kevin twice in a three-year span, but I'm just saying I understand it.
Starting point is 00:49:40 You're so afraid of it. You would never do it. You would never do it. it. You would never get there late. You would never be running because you're so parent and get there early. When my kid is looking through snacks at the Hudson News in the airport and I can't see him for a second, I start to panic. Right. The protective instance kick in. Like, everyone's an asshole at the airport. Everyone's
Starting point is 00:49:56 in a hurry. They don't care. You don't lose your kid in the airport. If you do, it's terrified. Tim Curry, the perfect creepy hotel boss? That blend of him from the Grinch shot into Tim Curry's smile. What's your relationship with Tim Curry? Like, what's your favorite? Always has made me uneasy. I've never liked him.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Yeah, that's what that's his deal. So, like, I'm a big clue guy. Like, he's awesome and clue. Legend with Tom Cruise, he plays the villain. Like, I love all of that stuff. So, and I think he is so good in this movie. And if Tim Curry doesn't work in this movie, he loses your interests. Using the talk by talking in slow motion to get a hotel room, just ingenious by Kevin.
Starting point is 00:50:33 So, leave the phone call. Oh, hi, this is Mr. McAllister. Credit card. You got it. The lady's like, is this Mr. James Gum checking into? You know, so do you have a room for a great big fat person? By the way, the lady who's taking that reservation is Chris Columbus's wife. Pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Oh, interesting. Yeah, she's in the movie. Pretty cool. How about Karen Culkin as a little brother? Let's do it. I mean, definitely. I think he's top of the list, age the best. Just waiting for him to drop Roman lines?
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah. He's now, he used to be the guy who pissed the bed. Now he's sending dick picks to mature women across the Waystar Royco conference table. The best scene in that series, by far. Sends it to his dad instead, mistakenly. It's so funny to see him as a little kid and think he's going to go on to play one of the most depraved characters in the history of HBO. It's like Roman Ryan out of BC. Fuller, easy on the Pepsi.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Fuller, easy on the dick pics. I love Fuller. Two more. No CGI for the Pigeet attack. They actually use pigeons. Great stuff. Now they would just like fake it. John Williams is the score.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Great stuff. And, I mean, Williams, how about this? He just casually does this. And then he's just right on to Jurassic Park next project. Like, what a legend. They were like, hey, John Williams, do you have anything? Yeah, I got some. For home alone, it's going to make about 400 million.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I'm good. Hold on my garage. Let me go in my garage. Let me, uh, candles in the window. Christmas theme, right? No problem. I got you. Kevin's room service bill.
Starting point is 00:52:03 So this was what was on it. Two chocolate cakes, six chocolate moosees with chocolate, vanilla and strawberry ice cream topped with Eminemes, chocolate sprinkles, cherry. cherries, nuts, marshmallows, caramel syrup, chocolate syrup, strawberry syrup, whipped cream, bananas, six custard flans, a pastry cart, eight strawberry tarts, and 36 chocolate covered strawberries. Again, he's American psycho.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah, that's a crazy. For one person, that's insane. Yeah, you can't consume that much in a few days. A couple of years after that, he's going to... He becomes a diabetic? He has to go right to the hospital. Give me three scoops. I'm not driving.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Oh, you're driving to the hospital. Kevin, you definitely are. 1-10-3. Kevin's out of insulin. There's just no way you could eat that much as a 10-year-old when you're four feet and live to Tel-Bet.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I think it's also like an F-U to his parents. I think this is like, I'm going to run up the bill. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So he's being like, screw you, I'm going to be the highest bill possible
Starting point is 00:52:59 because you guys ditch me again? Yes. Craig, what's the most you could spend on room service? Nowadays, I feel like you could... One person? I mean, dude, you get Uber Eats for one person. It's like $65.
Starting point is 00:53:12 So it's easy now. That was Craig's lunch. Chicken Cachatorio is $65. It's true. Room service, under $100 for one person, a sandwich, like a salad, and like a glass of wine, forget about it. It's $100. Yeah. It's nuts.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And then it's like to do the thing where it's the service charges in there, but does that mean the person who brought this? It's not a tip for him? Okay. It is a tip. I think the idea is you're not supposed to tip. I'm so worried about not tipping that I also tip, but then I feel like a sap. Right. I was just taking advantage of.
Starting point is 00:53:42 They don't tell you. Have you guys ever seen the bellhop do the Rob Schneider finger thing to you? Oh, they're like, what do you got? Yeah, they're rubbing the fingers together like it's time for pay. Have you? No. Does that really happen or is that only...
Starting point is 00:53:53 I don't think it happens. Those people get out, they get out fast in hotels. Well, they don't do the thing. They say three times, anything else I can do for you. Anything else. It's a room temperature to your liking. Yeah. That's what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Movie trip. Yes. The Fortune 3 clap award for most giffable moment has to be her screaming. Kevin, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Great shot.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Go to Order Award. You had it. That drone shot was really cool. Whatever they did. Denna Thieves, Benny Hahn Award, scene stealing location. I could give you New York City.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I could give you Duncan's toy chest. I could just give you the Plaza. The Plaza. Yeah. Did I take some of the magic out when I told you there's no pool at the Plaza? I feel like I ruined it for you a little bit. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:54:35 It's like there's no basement in the L-A-LMO. If I'm staying at the Plaza, why am I like, hold on. I brought my trunks. I'm there to use New York City I'm right in the middle of everything It's right next to Central Park It would be a little weird to swim
Starting point is 00:54:47 And the pool would probably be small You're right Okay Big Gahuna Burger Award Best Use of Food or Drink Has to be the room service order What's age the worst You mentioned this
Starting point is 00:54:57 A clock radio accident Causing 10 people in the house To be late Come on Ridiculous What else you have? I have a bunch When the family
Starting point is 00:55:06 Goes down to Florida They stay in this crappy motel hotels or motels that advertise adult movies on the sign. You don't see that anymore. Does that exist? Like, a porn movie is basically is what they're saying. You know, the only thing that's left is HBO. You'll see that.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Like, there's some LA hotels where you'll see, like, free HBO is still on there. That's the only thing I've seen. Craig, let me ask you, do you know what the term spectrovision is? Does that mean anything to you? No. Okay. So Spectravision, which they used to nickname Spanktrovision,
Starting point is 00:55:35 was you could be in a hotel and you would order porn movies on the TV and you pay for them. I remember Skinnamax. Yeah, Spanktervision walks so Skinnamax could run or vice versa. But the phrase bill would always be, movie titles do not appear on the bill. Right. Because it'd be like horny sorority girls, 1299. It would just say movie.
Starting point is 00:55:53 They don't do that much anymore. Well, so then you'd pay the movie and you'd have your room service bill. And the normal pay-per-views were like $9.99. But the Spanctrovision was like $24.99. They were so expensive. Buy it. And I remember staying in a hotel with my dad. He was asleep and he's like, did you order a movie last night?
Starting point is 00:56:15 I'm like, no. So I think one of my friends did it. We're on vacation in a hotel. One of your friends, they just don't do porn in hotels like that anymore. So I got that. I should say it's the worst. Well, that was a big, that was a big ball bust, like, guys thing. If you were in somebody's hotel room, you'd order it when they're in the bathroom,
Starting point is 00:56:30 they'd order it. And you'd order ones that were, let's just say were unflattering types of porn that would reflect poorly on them. And then the guy after, they'd be like, why didn't you tell me? I would have watched it. Yeah, I'm fine. If I'm going to pay for him, I might as well watch it. So porn in hotels. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:42 And then I just generally have Uncle Frank. I mean, much has been said about Uncle Frank. But, like, where do you start? Like, Uncle Frank definitely hits children, like, to this day. He's a menace. Everything bad. Uncle Frank is being taken out of the house in handcuffs because he has stuff on his computer. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:57:00 Phil just took it to a 10. I'm like, he's kind of a jerk. Bill's like, he watches children's porn. Oh, my God. But you know what? He might be right. Do you know the deleted scene? There's an infamous deleted scene.
Starting point is 00:57:09 with Uncle Frank. What? It's in the house home alone two, before they leave for the trip, and Kevin's bitching or something, and Uncle Frank sits him down, and I'm not making this up,
Starting point is 00:57:17 but you don't think I'm joking. He pulls Kevin's pants down and laughs and walks away. So Kevin's left there in his underwear, and we're like, dude, I think that's assault. Like, you can't do that to a kid. Not your own kid.
Starting point is 00:57:27 He pulls his pants down just to fuck with him and laughs and walk away. So Frank is, I mean, Frank, I think is crazy than Kevin. Yeah. Got to be.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Well, he's also, like, totally non-plus that he's showering, and Kevin's, like, pulling a prank on him. He does have an all-time line, though. It's secondhand line. When Kevin goes, Uncle Frank says, if I walk in there and see him naked, I won't grow up, feel like a real man.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Awesome. What a great line. That doesn't seem like something a family member would say. Awesome. See, my uncle said that to me. I think that'd be funny. More would stage the worst. The head of the hotel just waltzing into a room and watching someone shower in a bathroom.
Starting point is 00:57:58 A little weird. Although, it's Tim Curry, so you expect it? Yeah. I got a fun one. Well, oh, go ahead. All right, so can we talk about the Joe Pesci swearing in this movie? Yeah. So he's coming off Goodfellas where every other word is F-bomb.
Starting point is 00:58:14 And it's, why, you little chippa-chimba, chippa, chippa-chimba, he does that nonstop. He does this swearing where he's not saying anything because it's a kid's movie. Yeah. So to watch Pesci, who is like the Michelangelo of movie swearing, have to go through these scenes where he's getting his nuts crushed and he's not allowed to swear. Always say it seems it's so strange to me. It almost seems like they've put him in T. TBS with dubbing or editing ahead of time. Yes. But before he even does it. You just want him to scream at my
Starting point is 00:58:43 how the fuck am I funny? I know, right? Why am I funny? How the fuck am I funny? A little kid that loves weird 1930s gangster movies? Yeah, very strange. Why is he watching that movie? Didn't know anyone at any point who's like, hey, Tommy's coming over, like to play with your son. He loves 1930s gangster movies. You have any? He should be watching the Rescue Rangers. Farface.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yes. Pretty strange. It is strange. And then Michael Jackson visited McCulley Culkin on the set. I'm just without comment. I'm going to say that's age to worst. Perfectly normal. Perfectly healthy.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Ruffalo Han-Hann-Rubeneck Partridge Overacting Award. They knew and they let it happen. Don't you call me, lady. I come in here. I give these things to you. Give it all you got. Give it all I got. I treated you like a son.
Starting point is 00:59:31 You fucking stab me in the heart. Fuck you. Who would you give it to? There's a guy in this movie has a very small part who makes me laugh every single Christmas when I watch it. And when Kevin's trying to run on the plane and the boarding passes get knocked down and the lady's picking him up, the supervisor comes over. And this guy just goes, boredom! But make sure he finds his family. And that guy puts every ounce of his being in that line.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Like, that's his eight-mile moment. He is so excited about that line. So boredom guy. That VHS is getting sent out to 100 agents. It's not my real. I'm at home alone too. I'm with McCauley. I share a scene together.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I'm going to be a fucking movie star because of the words, boredom and he is so over the top and so stupid. I got boredom guy, which is two words. I like it. It's better than any of my candidates. What do you got? What was your real? What was like the number one thing on your real?
Starting point is 01:00:17 Well, my acting real or my sports media real? Acting real. It's just days of our lives scenes. Like making yourself cry in a hospital because you had cancer? I lost my leg. My character lost the leg on a landmine. Yes, I'm not making it up. Your character lost a leg at a landmine?
Starting point is 01:00:31 Character was a soldier. Is it war? I became the first amputee character in daytime TV history. Days of Our Lives? Days of Our Lives? Yeah, three and a half years. Wait, for three and a half years, you didn't have a leg? No, for like two years, I didn't have a leg.
Starting point is 01:00:43 You know what's crazy? So you had to, like, pretend you didn't have a leg for multiple scenes? I had a prosthesis, and I would, like, limp. And then the craziest thing was Paul McCartney's wife at the time was a real-life ampute from landmines. And I came in and I did a scene with Heather Mills-McCartney and Days of Our Lives where we were, like, crying about how we don't have a leg. That really happened in my life. That was the thing.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Was that your number one real thing? Probably was, yeah. Probably was, yes. Was there a better title for this movie? I would have gotten with Home Alone 2. How terrible were these parents, question mark? Yeah, that would be... I don't know if it would have been better box office.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Home Alone 2, more child negligence? Home Alone 2, Protective Services. That's Home Alone 2. You can't lose them three times. Can you dig it? A word for most memorable quote. It's just Kevin again. Kevin!
Starting point is 01:01:26 I also do like, suck brick, kid! I say that sometimes when we play basketball and volleyball. It's fun. Let's take a break and then we'll do the hottest take. If you thought HBO's euphoria was intense in high school, saddle up. Season three of Euphoria picks up five years later, and life looks very different. Hello, Roo. You owe me money. No matter what they're chasing, money, love, or redemption, no one can escape their fate.
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Starting point is 01:02:47 And I think Kevin learns. Kevin wants to be alone. I think Kevin is wanting to be apart from his family. And by the time the movie is over, I think he's actually pissed off when she finds him at Rockefeller Center. I think he orchestrates it at the airport. I think that thing with the batteries is all bullshit that he set up ahead of time. At no point in this movie does he try to,
Starting point is 01:03:04 to find his parents. Does he talk to anybody about his parents? First movie, he goes to Santa Claus and says, can you please bring my family back? This movie, he doesn't do any of that. And he's like, he's pumped. Yeah. This is a high IQ independent child who doesn't belong on a conventional family structure. He's got a sick-ass apartment. He eats whatever he wants. He's got friends he hangs out with. He's got a fucking pool. And I think when she shows up at the end, she's like, Kevin, he's like, fuck. It's like when your parents come home and you had a babysitter, like the party's over. I think he doesn't want to be with his family. And his family sucks as well. And they set that up. on the first act of the movie,
Starting point is 01:03:36 I think he wants to be alone and is totally bummed out when he's not. I don't think you're wrong. I think the internet comes about five years later and Kevin doesn't have another relationship with another human being. No, it's just in front of his class up the whole time. He's early message boards,
Starting point is 01:03:51 probably at that point he's 14. Yes, epic. When like the first wave, he definitely is AOL and like 95. Yeah, he's probably goes to college for computer programming. Also kind of a freak. Like he likes torturing people.
Starting point is 01:04:06 I think he's into cyber sex and all that type of stuff. Yeah, he probably gets into some dark places and dark web by the time. He's 1920. Yeah, I like that one. My second take, this is this simple. I think Harry and Marv are lovers. Really?
Starting point is 01:04:19 I do. They've been in prison together multiple times. Yeah. I don't really know why they're together. The wet bandits and then the sticky bandits. Wet and stickies? Yeah, it's weird. They talk about when this is over,
Starting point is 01:04:29 we're going to go abroad together. The first time we see Harry, he's in a policeman's uniform, which I think he owns and, like, uses it in his personal life. And I don't know why else Harry is with Marv. Marv's bringing nothing to the table. It's not like he's the computer hacker or, like, the muscle. I think that they're in a relationship. And the only fly in the ointment is in this movie that Marv, like, gets kind of horny about the blonde lady on the sidewalk.
Starting point is 01:04:50 But I think he's, like, fresh out of prison and just looking to, like, screw anything. And I think Harry doesn't like it when he flirts with the blonde woman. So I think Harry and Marv are, like, are lovers and, like, their head over heels for each other. That's what we do. They're going to Mexico together after this. That's a great hottest take. What do you got? That's where, I mean, you really went for it because I was like a shame to mine because it's probably too over the top.
Starting point is 01:05:11 But now I feel great. No, let's go. Come on, Bill. I think this is a movie about a little kid fighting off the dangers of child trafficking. Do this. Let's go. From the get-go, this kid is just in peril and in danger. And everybody is coming after him at all times.
Starting point is 01:05:26 And everybody is some sort of avatar for be careful if you're a little kid. heading to when the pigeon lady saves Kevin, it's in the exact same spot as the climactic scene in cruising without Pacino. I know either cruising or Nell was going to come up. Which one first? Is the same spot? It seems like the same spot.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I was looking at it. It was like there was the bench. There was like the little hill. There was a little bridge. I was like, what are they trying to tell us? That's all I got. That's why we call it the hottest take. That's right.
Starting point is 01:05:58 We listen to the episode sometimes. Sometimes it's just an interesting take. It's a fun take. It's supposed to be a ridiculous take that you don't really believe. Yeah, I don't. Hotest take, it's like trafficking, gay lovers. I could talk myself into believing this. That's how you do it.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Good job, Bill. Casting what ifs. Great job by you. So only a couple. Chris Columbus wanted Gene Wilder to play the role of Mr. Duncan, the toy store guy. And he turned it down. Too small of a part.
Starting point is 01:06:25 So they got Roy Wally. Damn right, they got Roy Wally. And then there's a legitimate Ali Shidi cameo for keeping our brat pack roots. Yeah. So this is a cameo, right? Yeah. She's winking at the camera. It's not like just a small part that Ali Shidi took.
Starting point is 01:06:39 No, because she's still pretty big. And this is 192? Yeah, she's a real active. And she's big enough to be like, holy shit. They got Ali Shidi. It's like the rock showing up or something. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:06:48 It's an odd part. But I think it's John Hughes. Yeah, she was in a couple of John Hughes. Yeah, it's good to see her. I think she's wearing a wig, too. That blonde hair. I don't know if that's hers. Best that guy award is clearly.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Eddie Bracken who plays Mr. Duncan who was also Roy Wally in Wally World and was in pretty much every Hughes movie in some way. He was also in the movie Rookie of the Year, he owns the Cubs. That movie directed by Marv. So there's some... Right.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Yeah, and he's in it as well. Do you know his name was Eddie Bracken? No. Yeah. But that's... I gather he was like massive in the 50s, 60s, 40s like that. I've not seen those films.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I'm not Kevin McCau, so I don't watch old black and white movies. Deanne Waiters Award. Pigeon Ladies in a Tim. much. Schneider is a candidate. Buzz. Okay. Roy Wally. I don't know. Curry probably ate it too much. How about my guy? How about Johnny in the movie, in the old movie, the black and white movie?
Starting point is 01:07:44 Ralph Foodie is his name. Oh, that guy. That's good. I like that. F-O-D-Y. You've been smooching with everybody. Like, that guy's kind of an iconic part of all along. Yeah, it's like James Cagney. You're right. You know how we said you got to have McCauley and then Pesci? I think you've got to have that guy, too. Right. That's a big part of home alone. It's a great call. Ralph Foodie, F-O-D-Y.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Recasting Couch Director, City. I've never been a buzz guy. Talk about Buzz, yeah, go ahead. It's annoying. I don't know. It's too stereotypical, annoying, brother. I don't like, nobody would be named Buzz in real life that we would take seriously.
Starting point is 01:08:22 You just hear it, you see the haircut, you just know he's going to be a dick. It's just too easy. Yeah, Buzz is the name of a Spaceman in Pixar movies. It's, it's, in the first movie, I kind of like Buzz because he's like, he has that, the shelves where he has a tarantula and he has a playboy and he has money. And like, Buzz is definitely going to have, like, weed and stuff and pills out there eventually. Like, Buzz is going to party hard.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Like, Buzz is going to burn out. But the opening scene of the movie, too, with that. Oh, yeah, like, he knows him all. Yeah, he's one of the cousins of the scapegoals. Yes. Yes, and Buzz just keeps falling upward in life because he has people. But, yeah, he doesn't do much for me. Craig, do you know anybody named Buzz who turned out to be a good guy?
Starting point is 01:08:59 Aldrin? Yeah, well, he did. That's a pretty big one. Yeah. Didn't know him personally. He's like 90, right? Good friends with Stanley Kubrick as far as I understand, right?
Starting point is 01:09:07 So Buzz Aldrin is our last buzz. Yeah, and Buzz Aldrin will punch you in the face if you say he didn't land on the moon. He did it. It's on camera. It's an amazing video. Yeah, Buzz Aldrin, Buzz Lightyear. Fictional character. Yeah, and then Buzz cuts and Buzz soft from the Running Manor guy, but not a lot of those.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Should I throw Buzz on the list for my firstborn? Buzz Horlebeck? Yeah. Not even a nickname, the real name. Put it on. Buzz Horlebeck kind of plays. Buzz Horlebeck sounds like a tight end on the Saints.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Tastom Hills out. Buzz Horlebeck, start him this week. Pull him off waivers. Buzz Horleback always gets red zone targets. Taysam Hill likes throwing to him when he's in. Buzz Horlebeck, number 83. Quietly four touchdowns at his last five games. Bill, where did Buzz Horlebeck go to college?
Starting point is 01:09:51 Where did you play college ball? North Carolina State. Why? Is that the first of the pop to? That's great. Big three time all at ACC. Craig, Craig, you did it. It's awesome. NC State.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Romo, Collinsworth, or someone else for the director's commentary. What do you got? I got Mike Breen. Oh, you got Mike Breen. Here's Kevin with another brick bag! That's all I got. I was going to do Scott Hanson. Oh.
Starting point is 01:10:23 But I think after Ohio State, Michigan... Oh, Gus? I think it has to be Gus. And I think it's... Kevin McAllister, young fella, ha ha! Sucked the whole rope in kerosene! Lights a match!
Starting point is 01:10:42 Oh! They fall four stories! McAllister, the hero! Oh, how does he do that for four stories? Unbelievable. Lights a match! I love you, Gus. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:10:56 That's so good. Great stuff. I mean, Gus, you really went for it. I feel like Gus's apex amount. I haven't seen you go to a place like that since you're with Heather Mills McCartney. I went to a deep place. That might have to go on your reel. It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:11:08 It's kind of disrespectful that I was pretending I lost the leg and she actually lost the leg. That's why you're an actor. That's why they call it acting. That's right. Half AscerNet Research. Hughes finished writing this film by February 1991 after signing a six-picture deal with 20th Century Fox, which it's starting a little sideways for him. That's when we got.
Starting point is 01:11:26 What was the female? Home Alone one. Curly Sue? Yeah, Curly Sue. John Belushi. Went a little sideways. So, Lenny McAllister,
Starting point is 01:11:36 Kevin's older sister, was previously portrayed by Angela Gothels in the first film replaced by Maureen Elizabeth Shea, if you're keeping score at home. Got her. The show Kevin's watching
Starting point is 01:11:49 the first scene is a fictional game show called Ding Dang Dong. It was taped on the set of an actual game show called 100,000 Fortune Hunt, Illinois, hosted by Bob Eubanks. Love Bob Eubanks. The one, the only Bob Eubanks. So Donald Trump would only let them
Starting point is 01:12:04 shoot in the plaza if he had a cameo plus a fee for the film production. So they agreed to give him the cameo. And then they were going to cut it out, but then they actually kind of liked it. The cameo works well. Yeah, the cameo is solid. It's weird. Like, if you're just the young person, you know Trump only's a politician. Like, back then he was known as just, like, the rich guy. Like, the rich guy. And the guy who, like, went through rough marriages and stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:27 That was his whole reputation. Yeah, I don't know who that is now. The rich guy, I mean, you know, Bezos, like, he's on yachts and stuff. But he was, like, Trump's thing was, like, we didn't even know how much money he had, but he was kind of 80s excess personified, but going through divorces, there was always women. It always seemed like he might go bankrupt, like he was playing monopoly and just, like buying houses as soon as you could. And he owned every building in New York. And we just didn't have as much access to him.
Starting point is 01:12:53 But again, as a kid in Chicago, I was like, wow, Donald Trump's the richest man ever. Right. That's what he stood for. And that's why he's in the movie. So apparently Pesci suffered burns to his head while filming the scene when Harry's hat got set on fire. That's the thing that happened. Do you think Pesci, like, enjoyed this experience making this movie? I think they just overpaid him.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Okay. And he's like, I got to take this money. I'd do the sequel. Yeah, I think Pesci was smart enough to know, like, I'm having a little run right now. Yeah. I'm going to make my lethal weapon too money. I'm going to make my home alone too money. I'll make my cousin Vinny.
Starting point is 01:13:24 All this is leading toward me making him with On. with Brenner Fraser, and my run will be over by, like, 96. If he had that, that's the foresight, because he might have been like, how, I mean, what am I? Am I going to be Tom Cruise? Like, I'm this little short guy who beats people up. He has this charming anecdote that he told in an interview where he says, children come up to me and they say, they know me from the movie, and they want me to come and rob their house so they can beat me up.
Starting point is 01:13:48 And I still get that to this day. And I was like, oh, that's a charming little story that he has kids that know him from home. Do you think he's ever been assaulted by a little kid? because they think they have the right to do it. Yeah. Maybe. Like some little kid just runs in, punches them in the balls with the hockey stick. Paying hand right to the face at the airport.
Starting point is 01:14:03 He says he liked it. A lot of promotional partners in this movie, including American Airlines, Coca-Cola, Jack-in-the-box, Hardee's, Roy Rogers restaurants. This was right as they were really starting to figure out how to grab extra money with a movie. So the pigeon attack, apparently they covered them with real bird seeds, and those were 300 real pigeons. And at one point one of them got in a Daniel. Stern's mouth and it just sounded horrible.
Starting point is 01:14:27 I don't think they paid those guys enough. That's disgusting. Yeah, it's disgusting. I don't like birds. I'm not into that at all. They spent a lot of money in an artificial snow and then New York had a blizzard so they didn't need the snow. I love what that happens.
Starting point is 01:14:40 House was 51 West 95th. That was Uncle Rob and Ann George's house that's being renovated. It's great looking place. I don't know if you know that neighborhood at all. Well, again, the prodigious wealth of the McAllisters. I mean, like they have this incredible brownstone that they're doing a full gut. the price of that. And then obviously people have said a lot of things about the McAllister house.
Starting point is 01:14:58 But you're staying at a motel with like free porn. Yeah, what is that? And they're all flying to France in the first one. They're right in first class to France. Like that's really expensive. But they're at a shitty motel. And then Uncle Frank's like, it wasn't like this on our honeymoon. I think the joke is Uncle Frank set up that hotel and he's a scumbag or something.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Entertainment Weekly had a real medical doctor checking out the effects of Harry and Marves injuries and said at best brain damage at worst death. Yes. That was where they landed on that. I like that they needed to actually assign a story to figure that out. Yeah. Look at this movie. It's like four bricks from a four-story drop.
Starting point is 01:15:31 You're dying. It's the same people who are like, you know, Batman's equipment really wouldn't work like that. We know, dude. It's a movie. We understand. We don't need an expert. That bothers me.
Starting point is 01:15:41 That's why we have a nitpicks category in the rewatchables. Damn right. We like to tweak it. Let's tweak it. But I wouldn't assign a story to find out. Pay an expert. Apex. Mountain. Culkin? I think it is. Yeah. I think it is too because now he's had three hits in a row
Starting point is 01:15:59 and we're heading toward Goodson and this movie made almost $400 million. And it sucks too because Apex Mountain means you're the highest you're ever going to get but it's going to go down. Yeah, it did go down quickly. It sucks for everybody but Slice Stallone. Right. Exactly right. His Apex Mountain was just Mount Everest and he's still up there. Still up there to this day. I can't believe he never came down. Pigeon ladies, Apex Mountain. Yeah, and you could also, homeless characters. Benevolent Christmas homeless characters? Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Homeless characters who are not a criminal, a drug addict, or mentally ill, I guess. He really hit the lottery with that one. New York City is a holiday movie location? For me, it is, yeah. And for me, it is in the last 30 years. Chicago's got some great-ins. I'm sure we're forgetting some important holiday. You know, Miracle on 34th Street is an iconic Christmas movie,
Starting point is 01:16:49 and they remade it with Dylan McDermit a few years ago. but I like this better. This is massive. Catherine O'Hara? That's a good one. Because she just, she blew up with Schitt's Creek in terms of like the fanhood
Starting point is 01:17:02 and everyone with that show. She also had a whole, the Christopher Guest movies, which is my favorite stuff that she's done. Oh my God. Waiting for Guffman is unbelievable. I love that. What's the one?
Starting point is 01:17:11 Is it best in show or waiting for government? Best in show. Yeah. When she, she just has a history with like every guy. Yeah, and the guys like, slowly figuring.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Yeah, and people are flirting with her. I remember that time in Tulsa? Yeah. I love that movie. John Hurd, a lot of possibilities for him. He's a big. Great Sopranos run for him. But I think he became, it's right around here because he became like, oh, John Hurd.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Home Alone Dad. Yeah. And he's such a dopey character. He must not be that proud of it. It's a stupid role. I like him in Big. I don't get it. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:17:47 It's great and big. The Plaza? I don't know the history of it. I'm sure presidents have stayed there. I'm sure FDR stayed there. Like, I don't know. From a pop culture standpoint. Herbert Hoover.
Starting point is 01:17:58 That's what they say in the movie. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Okay. Hoover, I don't know. Is that first class president? I would say for the past of the pop culture standpoint. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Yes. Definitely. Losing your kids in a movie? This are Taken. Taken's pretty big. This made more money than Taken. This is a bigger movie than Taken. And the homoosa.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Soking a rope and kerosene? Definitely. Daniel Stern? I'm going to say yes. Peshi. 92. Stern, yeah. Stern was great at the time.
Starting point is 01:18:26 I loved him in Wonder Years. Great career, but this is it. Pesci. We listed what his 92 was. It's pretty unbelievable. Coming off Goodfellas. Yeah. Then these three movies all in the same year.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Dude, I got to tell you. This guy's the limit. I watched The Tales from the Crypt episode that Pesci was in this week in preparation for this. It's bad shit. Joey Pants is in it. Oh. Polly from Rocky is in it.
Starting point is 01:18:49 And Pesci gets sought in half by two twins, and then they have sex with half of his body. It's right in this run. It's like 1993 and 92. He did a Taleson Crypt episode. Michael Kamen does the music. It is a crazy episode. I watched the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:19:03 I love Tales from the Crip. But that run you're talking about is this is in that too. He decided to just do it. I don't know why. It's so weird. You know what Tales from the Crypt is, Craig? I don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:12 See, Craig missed out on a lot of great HBO content just by being too young. That's on my HBO Rushmore. And that's a tough time. You don't know, hitchhiker, right? No. The hitchhiker. Another one. You remember the hitchhiker? I know the hitchhiker, yes.
Starting point is 01:19:26 My buddy Jeff, one of my best friends, my best friend from high school, who was really excited about Yot Rock. And he's like, Yot Rock did well. Do you think you could get him to bring back the hitchhiker? As long as they bring back Dreamon. Dreamon is on my Rushmore as well. We were trying to figure the hitchhiker just like, I guess the premise would be he landed. He's just in Malibu now.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Yeah. He's like he stopped hitchhiking, but now he's something, one last job ropes him back into one more hitchhike. yeah it's like you guys with running scared like they're in key west they're just retired like what do we do now just kind of breaks the thumb out i guess for good time's sake uh one last one for apex bound brenda fricker this is right before she's in so i married an axe murder as the mom where she's just like the horny mike mire's mom and she's great in that movie so it's right around here for her i think pregnant man gives birth that's a fact mom i find it interesting you refer to the
Starting point is 01:20:16 weekly world news as the paper right um i love her she's an academy award winner my left foot She's in this movie. She won an Oscar? Yeah. I forgot she won the Oscar for that. I thought she got nominated. So that's her Apex Mountain. F.A.O. Schwartz would you have?
Starting point is 01:20:32 No. Piano's seen him big. The piano. Great point. What else do you have anything? All right. So I got one. This is fun.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Is this Apex Mountain for pizza in movies? So when he comes out and he says, Mr. McAllister, a cheese pizza just for you, he opens it. There's this beautiful pume of steam and he gets in, plume of steam, and he gets in and he eats it. Here's what else I got. Back to the Future 2 pizza where it's tiny and they make it big. Right. Wayne's World pizza where contractor, no, I will not bow to any sponsor.
Starting point is 01:21:00 And like the commercial thing. There's a big scene in Iron Man where Tony Stark is eating pizza. But I'll tell you my favorite. I like the Tony Stark pizza. I think we talked about that. I think we did Iron Man, like how good the pizza looked. I think the idea is, I haven't seen that moving a while, that they brought it from New York on the private jet to Malibu.
Starting point is 01:21:17 So they're having New York pizza in Malibu. And like you want a slice so fucking bad. But my pizza at Mount Rushmore, Bill, are you a lover boy guy? Leverboy guy with Patrick Gertsey? I mean, who am I asking? If you don't know lover boy, there's a pizza delivery guy who turns into a gigolo and the women order extra anchovies and that means they want to sleep with the pizza boy. And the phrase of the movie, like the catch line, it's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:21:37 His customers always come first. They don't make them like that anymore. The 80s. God damn it, I miss that stuff. Loverboy, that's my, but I think Kevin McAuster's pizza is on the Rushmore, but not Apex. I always think about if they just had a movie and they pretended it was coming out in 2004. They filmed the trailer for Lover Boy, just what people's reactions would be.
Starting point is 01:21:57 If they're watching football on a Sunday, like, wait, what's going on? They fuck the pizza guy. It's a teenager. It's awesome. Pizza boy who fucks grown women? And he's barely 18, but they love it. I wish you would prep me for the pizza thing. I would have spent like three hours thinking about this.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Maybe next time I'll have more responses. Along came Pauley, not a bad scene. Hoffman with pizza. We talked about that with Alcon Pauley. It's a good one. Oh, they're eating the pizza and he's doing the spice. Yeah. I really think for pizza in movies, it has to be like the old school, thin, cheesy, kind of saucy, like, oil spilling off it, eating on a plate.
Starting point is 01:22:31 You have to turn it over it. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah. The New York style slice. Like, that's what Kevin has in the, and it, look, the pizza in Home Alone one is good that Buzz has to barf up. But I just, I want that pizza so bad. You know, it's funny. There's never been a good Chicago deep dish pizza movie scene.
Starting point is 01:22:47 because even if it's delicious, it's just so gross to eat as you're eating it. Nobody's like, oh, yeah, I got my knife, and I'm just cutting through. It's not. It's not for television or for movies. It's really not. It's just for that cheese pull initially, but then it turns into a slop mess.
Starting point is 01:23:00 People are their cheesers like dripping on their chin. It's my favorite food. No actress is eating that. Yeah, she's like, I'm not going to sit down and eat down. It looks terrible. Yeah. Charlize Theron isn't sitting down eating the deep dish pizza. I have one other one,
Starting point is 01:23:11 and I should have prepped you for this too, but it's a fun. All right. Apex Mountain. Fake movies in. real movies. So you got angels with dirty souls and now angels even filthier souls or whatever. I got a list, all right? Um, log jamming in the Big Lebowski, great porn movie. Which one's log jam? All right. Um, our angels live in my town with our guy, Dirk, obviously. Yeah. Amazing. Simple Jack. You are Dirk Diggler. Yes. Wow. Simple Jack hasn't aged well. Remember when Scream 2 came out
Starting point is 01:23:41 and they made a movie that was like it, but it was called Stab? That was their plan, Scream 2. Yeah. And then the last Terrence and Philip Ashes of Fire in the South Park movie. Which one jumps out to you? That's just my list. Is this all movies or can I do TV too? Of course. Yeah. Because Cleaver on the Sopranos is great. Oh, great. Malthusante. Cleaver. That's a great one.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Baldwin. Oh, that's so good. I always thought I absolutely would have rented Cleaver if they had just said fucking made the whole movie. And then I guess that's not a movie, but the end of, um, forgetting Sarah Marshall. Oh, yeah. The CSI, whatever. Crime scene, scene of the crime. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:17 The sunglasses coming off. I always really admired how they did those. You have friends at HBO. Can't we make the Cleaver movie? That would be an incredible, like, you know, the joke. That's what David Chase should have done instead of making the Sopranos prequel. He should have been like, hey, I have this. Finally have an idea for Cleaver.
Starting point is 01:24:32 That's great. We got Maltesante in it somehow. That'd be so good. And then Carmelo was like, Tony, you don't think it's a problem? Christopher made this movie about somebody who wanted to kill his uncle, mob boss because he slept with his fiance. You're telling me this isn't about you and age. Adriana.
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Starting point is 01:25:56 Season after season in Pure Michigan. Find your season at experienceGR.com. Home stretch here. Cruiser, Hanks. So I guess this would be for the dad character, or maybe because there's no adult lead in the movie, maybe everyone's in play, every male. So it could be Tim Curry, it could be anybody.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Or Peschi. Well... Oh, it could be one of the crooks. Listen, I don't want to break the rules here. I say Cruz and Hanks for the Sticky Bandits. It's the two of them. So we get a tie? Can we do that?
Starting point is 01:26:31 They're Harry and Marv. Yeah. Can we do that? I fuck up the whole scoring system. I don't want to break the system. Well, they just get a point then, so it would be fine. No, I hate this. Stragger and I called this break in the segment,
Starting point is 01:26:40 a good morning football, when it's like, name an AFCE's player that you love. And it's like, well, I'm actually going to go with an NFC. Shut up. Just don't break this segment. I will say, it's got to be Hanks for the physical comedy. He'd be better than Cruz if he's going to be one of the bandits. So, Hank says Marv? I think Hanks was Marv. Yeah. What would you rather see Cruz is one of the bandits or Hanks? Would you want to see Cruz just getting hit by bricks and stuff? Well, I think Cruz- Hanks would do a better job. Yeah. I think Cruz isn't nearly tall enough
Starting point is 01:27:07 for the Pessie role. So I think he'd have to go to Stern. This is mean. I love Tom Cruise. Why are making dumb jokes about a fire? I love Tom Cruise. I think Hanks. I think, yeah, he's doing the Michael Ritchie. Hank's Vince. Yeah, Hanks. What's the score now, Craig?
Starting point is 01:27:22 1915 Hanks. Wow, Hanks. Okay. It's competitive. So, Racehorse, Rock Bay, and Wrestler are a fantasy team name. We can go Wet Bandits, Sticky Bandits, Angels with Even Filthier Souls, or Duncan's Toy Chest, which, by the way, all could have been titles for porn movies.
Starting point is 01:27:40 So many porn movies. Which goes back to my trial trafficking, King, uh, hottest take. Yes. Why is all the stuff in this so porny
Starting point is 01:27:47 and Joe Francisy? At some point. Joe Francis's wet bandits. Wet bandits gone wild. South Beach. Angels with even filthy or souls. Disgusting.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Yeah. Duncan's toy chest? Come on. You're right. Yeah. That sounds gross. Four of those in this movie. At some point,
Starting point is 01:28:05 Bill, we're going to arrive on a topic that's going to be the shaving Ryan's Priots Award for the, what would the porn name be of this movie?
Starting point is 01:28:12 You know, I think I, I had this in one of the test things, and I didn't think enough movies would have it, but maybe that should be added. Like, I think, and we did Meet the Parents. Like, I think that Greg has to, like, have sex with the parents. And it's called Meet the Parents, but it's M-E-A-T, the parents.
Starting point is 01:28:26 You know what I mean? Cliffhanger would have been like Cliff Banger. And it's so easy. They're just all right there. The Shaving Rivens Privesants Award for what would the porn name be of this movie. Forest hump? Yeah, Forrest Lone. Or, like, something like that.
Starting point is 01:28:40 My buddy Jacko and I used to do this all this time. It's so fun. Because there was this whole era where the porn would come out after the successful movie, and they would tweak the title. And it was always made us laugh. It was so good. We thought it was so good every time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Now we just have 10-minute clips for porn. I remember they did a Hamilton porn spoof. They did? Yeah, it was about the pounding fathers. I love that stuff. It's so stupid, but it's correct. Not founding, pounding. Get it?
Starting point is 01:29:08 Pick and Nits. Okay. We mentioned the whole audience from the Christmas Cryer would not be laughing at a little kid. Hate it. The wet, now, sticky bandits, escape during a prison riot. These guys are imbeciles.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Could you trust them to escape from anything? No. And also, they take a fish truck to New York. Aren't they in Illinois? That's a picking net. What kind of prison riots happening in the, you know, outskirts of Illinois? It's not federal prison.
Starting point is 01:29:31 They're in prison for burglary. It's kind of a low-end prison, I think. Yeah. I don't get it. Kevin can see New York City from the airport after he lands. He looks out the window, and it's like the airport's right, the city's right there. So is he at LaGuardia?
Starting point is 01:29:44 Where is it? He might be in Newark. I'm not really sure. I don't. I've never been to an airport in a New York area where you could just immediately see the airport. Mostly the city, that perfectly. Well, also, when you get off the plane, I just want to get the fuck out of there. Who goes and looks out the window for a second when you go off the plane?
Starting point is 01:30:01 I just go. I always feel like the people have to have the cigarette or the saddest people on the earth. There's that chamber they go in, right? That's a little weird. The cancer chamber. If you're going in there. Yeah, if you're going in there, just. evaluate everything.
Starting point is 01:30:13 It's right next to when we take the dogs to shit. Right. Or maybe it's the same place. It might be. It might be. The pigeon lady's explanation for becoming the pigeon lady
Starting point is 01:30:22 was because she doesn't want to trust anyone again. My nitpick for this was you're a crazy pigeon lady covered in pigeon shit? Maybe that's the reason? You're fucking mentally imbalanced? I was on that as well.
Starting point is 01:30:33 You said you haven't talked to someone in two years. You're not exactly have a full dance card. I just got a lot of offers. I just didn't want to break anybody's heart. You're not coming for you. No hearts are broken. No.
Starting point is 01:30:42 You've 300 pigeons. riddick new york city at night too clean too empty it's just never looked this good ever at any point too safe there's the one scene where they scare kevin and like there's prostitutes and the cabder's like hey no too much better than here kid there's like a five second scene where it's scary and the rest of the time it's like Disneyland it's the happiest place on earth he's in an abandoned building there's no rats or people it's just yeah no no anybody no it's great no shit in the floor or nothing. What do you have? When they, the Tim Curry character
Starting point is 01:31:18 and the staff go in and he does the thing with the movie, it doesn't, you wouldn't think that that's a real person firing a machine gun. It's a hotel TV with a crappy little 17-inch zenith. It sounds like, yeah. He's like, get back in your rooms! There's a crazy guest with a gun! It wouldn't work like that at all. It's not like you have this massive sci-fi system set up. In the first movie, he lights off
Starting point is 01:31:38 firecrackers in the pot, so it sounds like a gun. So that one just drives me nuts. I don't like that. You wouldn't think that. I have a couple more of that. Yeah, I agree with you. We've talked about a lot of mine. Duncan's toy chest. No night security guard.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Nothing. No cameras. Nothing. Not one person there, no alarm. Just, they just keep all this cash in cash register. Not one person just with a flashlight walking around, making sure. You did have like a night watchman in those movies, right? Who walks around with the flash, like twirling his keys?
Starting point is 01:32:05 You need some of that. Yeah, maybe they should have, the bandage should have, like, knocked the guy out, made him seem more evil. Where did Kevin get all his props? Like he's got like a nail gun. He just says props are too good. I think it's under construction and they're the guys are on a break for Christmas Eve and he just walks in there and he's like, holy shit, I found a treasure chest. Look at all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:32:23 I can really kill them now. My two biggest ones. Kevin lowers himself down a five-story rope. Yeah, that's crazy. At night in a dark building with no safety harness anything. And I wouldn't call him like Bo Jackson when you're watching them run around and stuff. You're not watching Culkin going, I wonder what sport he's going to pick as an adult. That kid's got talent.
Starting point is 01:32:47 He's just kind of lumbering around. Remember when Jerry McGuire sees Ray throw the baseball team? He's like, whoa! Yeah, it's not a good throw. Yeah, I just, they kind of gloss over how crazy that is. Is it Chris? Remember the presidential fitness test in gym class in elementary school? We did the sit-beach and the rope.
Starting point is 01:33:03 That shit was hard. I couldn't do that pegboard. It's fucking hard. Kevin just all of a sudden, like, turns into Ethan Hunt. He's going down and over. He's a 10-year-old. Come on. fourth grade breaking both his legs here's my big one so kevin finds his family they drop all these
Starting point is 01:33:20 presents off at the tree yeah right and they're opening it the next day is having a nice little family moment and then it's like oh i should give that ornament to pigeon lady you're not going to invite her back to the house to spend christmas with your family i granted she's covered in pigeon ship but maybe that's a nicer gesture than just like here's an ornament i'll never forget you like how about bringing her up? How about trying to domesticate her? How about giving her like a nice meal in one of the presents? Shower. Hot shower. Yeah. Hey, want to shower in our fucking penthouse? It would have been funny if she was like, these are doves. I'm a pigeon person. Is there a receipt? He's just like, doves, do you idiot? Did you keep the receipts?
Starting point is 01:34:05 You can return it if you want. Now they would look at that as like a statement on class and wealth and everything. She's standing there. This is a vagrant homeless person covered in shit. He comes down from the plaza hotel. Pan House. Plenthouse sweet. And he comes down... Could have brought her a cheeseburger. Anything. And she's like, cheese plate. A Christmas order. Give me $1,000, you little shit. I just saved your life. Yeah. They were going to shoot you. Saved his life. I have this out of unanswerable. When she brings him up to the Carnegie Hall, like her little thing up there, how long does she wait before she strangles him and takes all his money and credit card.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Like, she's going to kill that kid. She's a homeless person. She just finally, her ship just came in. She found a spoiled, rich little white kid. She's going to get everything he's made of. And Kevin doesn't even, there is a whole... She's like, I can't believe you fell for my pigeon lady gimmick. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I finally got him at the car again. You bought all that bullshit about pigeons and warrants. I'm here to kill you and take your money. There's a Kristen Wigg S&L sketch where, at that very moment, when Kevin goes back to see her at the end and he's like, oh, I brought all this pizza. And she's like, oh, great. My stomach is rum. and he's like, I thought it'd be good for the birds,
Starting point is 01:35:09 and he just feeds it all to the birds and gives her none of it. So they're on the same thing. He shows nothing. That's an actual sketch? Yeah, I didn't see that one. I think it's Christopher who might have been hosting, because it was only a few years ago.
Starting point is 01:35:19 But, like, she is starving to death. Like, she's probably having to, like, perform sex acts for food. And, like, it's a terrible deal for her. It's freezing. And Kevin gives her a Christmas ornament. She doesn't have a tree. Yeah, where's she got a hang in? You didn't have a Christmas tree.
Starting point is 01:35:33 She's taking a shit under the bridge. Like, she's homeless. Come on, John Hughes. Come on. And by the way, if I'm her, I'm like, hey, I saw that other John Hughes movie where at the end, Del Griffith comes to come home and have Thanksgiving with Neil Page. She brings into his house, that homeless guy. How come I don't get to go up there and take a bath for a little and go for a swim? Yeah, can't get like a, can I be invited or brunch?
Starting point is 01:35:50 No. We'll be friends forever, though. I've never had X Benedict. Sequel, Prequel, Prestige TV, all black castor untouchable. Definitely sequel because they made five more. Haven't seen any of them? Neither. Never seen one second of them.
Starting point is 01:36:03 It's over. Culkin season tickets out once they changed. I don't acknowledge that franchise without. Hulk, and that's my guy. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Treos, Sid Goldberg, Sam Jackson, J.T. Walsh, now Byron Mayo, Harling Mays, Evil After Ramon Raymond, Long Legs, or Philip Baker Hall? I just want to tell you that I've really enjoyed the long legs from UNCR, and I recently saw the movie.
Starting point is 01:36:24 And I didn't see it until a couple weeks ago, and it's an amazing movie. Thank you. And I like when you guys do the Long Legs. So I'm going to leave that B. I look at, there's a gangster in this movie, and he's the old black and white guy, and I I think it's easy. You were smooching with my brother, motherfucker! Sam Jackson with the machine gun.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Or Sam Jackson adopting the old, like, gangster dialect and being like, you ever read the Bible, baby? I got this passage memorized. Ezekiel 2517, baby. The path of the right. I want Sam Jackson and Angels with Filthy Soul. 1930s, Pulp Fiction. Sam Jackson, yes. Marcel, not Marcellus.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Jules. Jules. Jules. That's my guy. Smooching with my brother. I just wanted to see Nellon's Central Park. Let's go. She belongs in Central Park.
Starting point is 01:37:12 She's the Pigeon lady. She points over, have you met Nellan? Nell-a-ma-ma-a-ma-a-ma-a-a-ma-a-a-ma-a-ma-a-ma-a-ma-a-na. No, would you like a Christmas ornament? I have nothing to do with? No, no-lis-de-pib-lap-a-pib-pib-pib-i-pib-pib-i. Just one Oscar, who gets it? What do you got?
Starting point is 01:37:32 John Williams? John Williams? He has a whole case of those. No, John Williams. That's fine. He wakes up and gets Oscars. Probably in answerable questions. Are these the worst
Starting point is 01:37:41 non-violent, non-molesting, non-child-trafficky parents in the history of movies? It's way up there. Even before they lose them again. Great Santini, maybe. Santini plays basketball with him and stuff. There's some supportive moments,
Starting point is 01:37:57 even though it ends kind of better. They're also afraid of them. Yes. Very afraid of him. I don't think Kevin's afraid of his dad because that's just an idiot. De Niro and what's that movie? this boy's life. There's been some bad parents, so probably no.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Yeah, probably not. The Sticky Bandits, just really bad CT, right? Oh, yeah. Like Jeremy Schapp's doing the E60 thing where he's with Marv. Marv doesn't know his name anymore. I think Tom Rinaldi has a very moving report on Marv and what became of him in the jail and he doesn't recognize Harry anymore and he was still in love with him. But no, I think definitely, definitely definite. Tom Rinaldi just brings him. the house on wins the Emmy for the report. Right. Yes. Best double feature choice
Starting point is 01:38:39 Home Alone won? I would zag hard and cleanse the palate and watch the Good Sun. Just because I watched it a few days ago, I still can't believe that fucking... Oh, I like this. Go Home Alone, too, right to the Good Son. That sounds great. I might do that tonight. Do it.
Starting point is 01:38:54 Do it. He runs up back to the plaza, and he comes down and he starts trying to kill Elijah Wood. Well, in the research, I forgot to mention this. The dad, who is really determined to have the kid have a career, would only agree to Home Alone 2 if they let him. him do the Good Son because he wanted him to zag against the stereotype. You don't want to be cast as a cute kid?
Starting point is 01:39:14 He was doing pretty well. I think the slogan for the Good Sun is like, evil has many faces. And it's just this picture of Kevin McAllister, ready to murder you. I almost did this as my hottest take, but it's not even a hot take. The Good Son is my favorite McCauley Coker movie. You like it better than the Home Alone movies.
Starting point is 01:39:29 I do. I can tell. The second I brought it up, your whole body language changed. You lit up. The Good Son, I enjoy so much that I almost who I decide to do the podcast with, I really want to put a lot of thought into it. It has to be somebody who likes the movie as much as I like it.
Starting point is 01:39:45 The scene at the end is one of the craziest scenes of the last 40 years. So we have this right. The woman is holding two sons, the good son and the bad son, off the cliff. Her adopted the kid who's living with them
Starting point is 01:39:58 or her actual flesh and blood son. And drops her actual son to save the skin. And he falls to his death on the rocks. And you see it. drop and it's really dramatic. I had not seen that movie in a long time. Is insane.
Starting point is 01:40:11 I forgot that she did that. You can't have that in a movie? That's terrible. He starts... He starts like a 40-car accident with like fatalities. Yes. Doesn't he drown someone too
Starting point is 01:40:22 and he has a rubber donkey that he keeps? It's an amazing movie. He falls down there. Is she in the good son, Craig? Craig, it's unbelievable. It's one of the best movies in the 90s. I have not seen the good son now. It's one of the best bad movies in the 90s, I should say.
Starting point is 01:40:34 But it's not even a bad movie. It's like, well done. of the rocks, like, and it's like, no, that's how McCauley falls in that movie. It's really bad. I was shocked when I watched that, but you love it. Good son. I'm going to watch it my double feature. You didn't enjoy, I, you watched the shit out of it.
Starting point is 01:40:48 I just, it took me a, I thought, I think I convinced myself. Cool outdoor stuff. The director of that movie, I have this right, I think he directed Sleeping with the anime, too. I think it's the same guy. Yeah, you're right. Great run for that guy. Same kind of tone, right? Yeah. Pretty cool. Andy Reds-Watne Award
Starting point is 01:41:04 would happen the next day. Kevin's parents lose custody. Just, I don't think there's any way they don't. I think Kevin has to move to, with, like, his uncle. Yeah. Not that uncle from the movie, but. Not Uncle Frank. Somebody else's, he's moving somewhere.
Starting point is 01:41:18 The Britney Spears, like a conservatorship or something. Like, there's, a legal action has to happen. Yeah. An emancipation, anything. You can't continue it as a family. What piece of memorabilia would you want from this movie? You can think this is weird, but I always laugh when Marve is getting an electrocuted and he turns into a skeleton with a wig on.
Starting point is 01:41:34 I want that skeleton. Just have it in the house? Yeah, I do it for Halloween. I put out the front porch and it'd be sitting there, like a Halloween decoration, then I have it somewhere in the basement. I'm like, that's the actual Omar of getting electrocuted. I always love that, that quick shot of him as a skeleton. That's what I take.
Starting point is 01:41:48 You're not taking the talk boy, are you? 100%. You're taking the talk boy? The original talk boy? That's probably like a $400,000 piece. It's probably in the Smithsonian. When you go on those website to go on? Yeah, they definitely go for like $300,000.
Starting point is 01:42:01 McCauley's actual talk boy. The actual talk boy that he used in the movie, that's like $300,000. True. It's kind of cool. Coach Finstock Award, best life lesson. I wrote down it's better to be with someone else than be by yourself, but you feel like the opposite. So that might actually not be the life lesson.
Starting point is 01:42:20 No, I think he wants to get away. I think the life lesson is, hey, kids, run away. It's awesome. It's so fun. You have the time of your life. If you hate your family. Yeah, just run away. Yeah, just get a credit card and go.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Fine. Take a credit. Take your dad's credit card and run away. Kevin walks into the toy store and he starts going, this is my best Christmas ever. Like, he is so happy away from that McAllister house. So kids, don't like your family? Just run away.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Pizza, Coke, fireworks. Yeah, it's awesome. Chocolate, ice cream sundaes. He's great. He beat the shit out of some idiots who are trying to hurt him. He saved some kids. He's got some weird friends, a toy store guy and the homeless lady. But, like, he's so happy.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Go for a swim. Eat some chocolate's great. And then you'll be accused 12 years later for a bunch of hooker murders across the country. I know. Except they've all been tied to Kevin McAllister. A talk boy was seen at two of the scenes of the crimes. I was worried about McAllen with the United Healthcare guy. I'm like, is that him in New York?
Starting point is 01:43:11 Is he back in New York again? Was it Kevin? Home Alone back in New York. Craig, what did you think? I love Home Alone, obviously seen it a million times. Seen this maybe, I don't know, four or five times. It's been a long time. I'm nervous.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Yeah, I don't like your tone, Greg. I don't like how we're starting. Look, it's a fun movie. I think where I land is like, if this was the original, it would have been just as big as the classic and would have been considered, basically looked at the same way. But the first one to me is so much better. This one, it just has too much sequelitis, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:43:41 It's the same bits, less nuance, everything's turned out to 11. It's just too sweet. It's like a Ben and Jerry's cake batter that's like the fourth brick to the head. I know that stuff is silly and you can be like, you have to look past that, but I think it goes a little bit too far where it's like not funny anymore. There's just so many bits that come back. It's like you have to do the mom screaming Kevin. You have to do that.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Maybe him at the counter doing the, I don't think so. Yeah. But like him putting together the shower curtain puppet in literally 10 seconds, the head on fire, the ice cream, the movie quotes. They should have just come up with new bits. These are talented. This is Columbus and Hughes.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Like, come up with new bits. That's a pretty good take. That's really hurtful. I like it. I like the same. Play the hits. You don't go to a foreigner concert and play, come up with some new songs.
Starting point is 01:44:30 No, just play the same shit over and over. It's why I read that Goldman quote at the top. It's about sequels are about comfort. Tony Soprano once said... I'm back with the characters. Tony Soprano once said the lowest form of conversation is remember when. And I do think that is what this movie is a little bit. Wow.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Fred came in. You like that, Tony's good. Having Raj here. Damn. Look at Craig. Two stars from Raj. They could have kept the same vibe. It could have been like the same movie.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Just do different jokes. I don't know why they do the same jokes. So you don't care about the New York City pieces of this. No, the New York's great. The New York's great. It's more Christy, probably even than the first one just because of the New York vibe. That's all beautiful. I just wish it wasn't literally the same jokes for two hours.
Starting point is 01:45:06 I'll be interested in 12 years from now when little Buzz Horbeck is watching one and two, which one he likes for. He's a three-star recruit. People are getting on the radar. He's already on Snoop Dog's youth football team. Absolutely. He should be on the Snoop team. We're looking out for Buzz Horlebeck.
Starting point is 01:45:22 I know people in the league. Buzz Horbeck's going to be amazing. At least name your dog. Do you have a dog yet? No. You will. Please do the dog, Buzz. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Kyle Brandt, what do you got to plug? Anything? I'm also doing anything with HBO. I did children's show. Human versus Hamsters, competition show. Me and Sarah Sherman from a Saturday Night Live. We hosted it. It's on...
Starting point is 01:45:41 What? Yeah. It says stream on Max right now. Yeah, for real. It's a show for, like, little kids. It's a competition show. It's she and I. We shot it last spring in Canada.
Starting point is 01:45:50 And it's like the same people who make Ninja Warrior and stuff, but it's like goofy people racing against hamsters and giant mazes. It sounds insane and ridiculous, but my kids are addicted to it. It's really good. Do you have to pretend you're missing a leg
Starting point is 01:46:01 or you get to use both of your legs? They let me do both legs. But I offered to do it. I can do the limp. It's like I can do an accent. I can do the limp. They said, no, we don't want that for this project. Let's keep it clean.
Starting point is 01:46:10 I didn't do it. Wow. That's pretty cool. Yeah, Sarah Sherman was amazing. She's blown up. It's funny. Amazing. So cool to work with.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Loved her. Great. Thanks, ma'am. And football? Good morning football. CBS NFL today. Ten takes, podcasts, all that. I don't plug all the stuff here.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I come here to do Home Alone too. I did just plug it. But thank you for asking. Good morning football with Straigs and Akbar and Jami. This podcast was produced by Craig Horoback. Sure was. Gahau, Jack, thank you. We'll be back one more in, in 2024, and that's it.
Starting point is 01:46:39 We'll see if the Chiefs are still undefeated at that point. Who knows? They're not undefeated. One loss. I mean, one loss. That's why you hear, Craig. One loss defeated. Add in those poetic Tony Soprano quotes you come loaded with.
Starting point is 01:46:50 That's the man right there. Thanks, Craig. Kyle, good to see. You too, buddy.

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