The Rewatchables - ‘Internal Affairs’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan are too fucking macho after rewatching the 1990 crime-thriller ‘Internal Affairs,’ starring Richard Gere, Andy Garcia, and Nancy Travis. Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It looks like a Broncos hat. No, it's Bulls. It's a bull. You'll see it right there. Wow. So who stole from who? The Durham Bulls or the Broncos? That's a great question.

I think that the Broncos probably have the copyright. Also, we're Van Lathan. Can you hear him on higher learning? Absolutely. He's wearing a cowboy hat. Yeah. He's wearing a cowboy hat today? That's my new thing.

I'm into it. Cowboy hats? I'm taking it back, man. Well, we are about to start playing lollipop with the service of robber. Internal Affairs is next. Inside. Internal Affairs is the most important division of the force.

Outside. I want you to kill my mother and father. Different sides of the law. You know what that aspect? Yeah. It's great God. One of the most productive officers on the entire force. Richard Gear.

Hi, Raymond. Andy Garcia. Police officer! Internal Affairs. Can I trust you? Of course. You can trust me. I'm a cow.

Reddit R starts Friday, January 12th at theaters everywhere. Okay. Let's go for this. Okay. This movie came out in 1990. I said on the text thread, they don't make movies like this anymore. And Chris's response today was what? I don't know that they ever did.

I don't know that they really ever have since or before made a movie like this. It's a one of one. It is a dirty cop movie crossed with, I don't know. A psychosexual stochian cuck thriller. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, a dirty cop,

when you say dirty cop, not just dirty cop in his profession. Yeah. The dirtiest, filthiest cop ever. Yeah. I'm talking about like, this guy is the most dangerous dick

that has ever existed on film. And Richard Geer wears it so well. I don't remember this movie being as unhitched. I've seen this movie a bunch of times. We're watching it as an adult. Yeah. It was a completely different experience, man. It's like, hey, Dennis Peck's going to drive your wife from him.

No, he's not. Yeah, exactly. Get out of the car. And no woman could resist. It was a matter of time before Dennis Peck is railing your wife and making you watch. Literally named Peck. Packer, Peck. We've been circling this one for a while, partially, like, as a mutual dare, I think.

Right? And when you're watching it, this is like a special genre of film, which is the look behind you. Because you're like, is anybody who? watching me watch this movie. And make sure nobody can hear you watching this movie because you will get a lot of, what the fuck did he just say?

From the other room, if you're watching this on TV, when I was a kid, I was like, I'm not supposed to be watching this. And now that I'm in my 40s, I'm like, I don't know if I'm supposed to be watching this. You know, I didn't even know they were talking like this in 1990. Because a lot of these things they weren't.

We've done so many 90s movies. They weren't. So a lot of this talk is up now. because we're so porn obsessed because everybody has like a little $1,000 pornographic machine that they walk around with at all times. I don't know if you guys use it for different things than I do, but that's what it is for me.

What's going on right now? But anyway. Vision Pro has really impacted. The Vision Pro has changed it, right? New horizons. But like, the way he's even talking, we could do a whole pot on it, guys. You're clicking around. Kaleek's like, nobody else's a Kaleek's like,

what are you doing? You're grabbing for it. I'm like, nothing. What's nothing? Yeah. Read my emails. Too high safety. But this movie, like, the way he's talking to him, he's talking to him like the foulest porn, crazy sex freak ever.

And I just don't remember that being in a lot of movies in the late 80s, early 90s that I grew up watching, man. Where is this in the Dirty Cop movie Pantheon for you, C.R? It's pretty high up there. Can I give you some possibilities? I mean, departing training day, I think, are in there. For sure. Like those have to be in there.

Those are like the magic and bird. For me, coplance in there. Uh-huh. Even though we already did it on the rewatchables, I love that movie. I was watching a couple weeks ago. I'm just, Leota in that movie,

I just can't get enough of. I mean, you have to go back to some of the 70s classics. Well, I was going to say, in this one, Serpico. Serpico, yeah. Connection. Yeah, connection. What else do you have?

I mean, there's so many great, great, like the seven-ups, the Roy Shider movie. Oh, yeah. like French connection adjacent has always been one of my favorites. Like there was not a clean cop in the 70s. They made movies about a cop it was like he was on the take or he was up against a bunch of cops who were.

He was doing so many dirty things. Prince of the City is another great dirty cop movie. So yeah, those are mine. Can I read you the Wikipedia? Just one sentence about this movie. This is when they have the, where they describe the plot. Meanwhile, Peck not only has a widespread web of corruption based on extortion, favors to cops and criminals alike.

And conspiracy dealings with pimps. He also moonlights as a hitman. It's one sentence. Hitman deals with pimps, cops, criminals, and a wide web of corruption. And that doesn't even say the whole story. No. Deals with pimps, but unclear how?

Like, I thought maybe he was a pimp at some point. He said that the pimp, that the girl was his snitch, unclear his relationship with pimps and how. They seem to get along really well, though. Like, he's hanging out at that food stand all the time. No, he's one of them. Yeah. But, like, what's the relationship about?

Probably information and looks out for them. And has sex with all of the working girls. Well, he, I mean, he clearly has sex multiple times a day. Yeah. He's just a walking, Woody. Right. Multiple times a day, multiple different people. Go see our's favorite part when he goes to see his ex-wife.

She's like, where are you going now? I got to pick up our son at a 12. I got to go get Ethan at noon. He just opens the door. It's like, let's get by the way. Let's get a stunt one in. Once again, no one can resist. Every woman he sees, it's five minutes before he fires.

So this is the magic trick of the movie. It's a really engaging LA crime movie. You know, it's like it's up there with like live and die in L.A. It's like a really cool preheat LA conflict. But the gear thing is out of control. Like the idea that this is seriously the devil. It's the Antichrist version of Philip Rivers. You know, it's like he's got nine children.

Yeah. And he's rolling around Los Angeles. And the problem with it is that you can kind of see it. You can kind of see he's so charismatic in almost every interaction he has with somebody. Even when he's like trolling Andy Garcia to the point of a fist fight, you're like, yeah, you know what? Two fist fights. So there's two scenes. The first scene is where I'm looking at him like, oh.

So there's a scene and it's breakfast time. Yeah. And it's his ridiculously beautiful new wife, played by Annabella Skura. Yeah. A rewatchable's favorite. Just amazingly beautiful, right? Heather. On her way, 15 years away from selling cars and hooking up with Tony Soprano.

But only a couple years away from being a very, very prominent figure in the lives. You have a lot of young black adolescent males. Jungle fever. Oh, yeah. And hand that rocks the cradle. The cradle, right? Unable to understand why everything has gone wrong since the nanny showed up. And then, so he's in there and his ex-wife walks in, kisses her, she's beautiful. On the mouth.

On the mouth. Whole deal. And for a second, you're like, okay, which person is he in their relationship with? And you look at him like, that's the type of motherfucker who could probably pull that off. Yeah. Like Richard Gere. She's like, I have a date. It's like, what?

My ex-wife has a date? My ex-wife has a date. Like, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then the other scene is when he's in, when he's going back and forth with Doreen, who's played by Michael Beach. And Boston's own. He pushes him to the ground. When he gets up, he's like, you still love me.

You still love me. You're like, that's the kind of asshole charisma that makes a guy like that, the leader of his squad or whatever. I was going to do this later. I do it now. I think this is his best performance in a movie. I agree. It's this and it's officer and a gentleman probably in the final two.

Someone would say Gigolo, but I don't think. Gigolo is a charisma movie, but he's doing more in this. And then Pretty Woman, he pulls off. What he pulls off a pretty woman is like a little bit hard to do. Pulls off aloof, charming, mysterious. He's a cut-throat billionaire who's basically... Looking for love, yeah. But also when that scene when he treats her like when she says,

I've never treated you like a hooker, and she's like, you just did. Yeah. And even then you're like, I still like this guy. I hope they work it out. Yeah, he can get away with almost anything because of like... My mom's favorite actor. Yes, right. This is his favorite of his own movie.

Is that true? Yeah, it was at the time, like around the time. Well, this was the Richard Keir comeback season, 1990. He is this and Pretty Women. He's coming off. We talked about this when we did Officer and a Gentleman, does Officer and a Gentleman and goes on an eight-year fucking bender of just bombs. Yeah.

And it's like King David and all these movies that just don't work. And then by 1990, he is like the eighth choice for every movie after the other seven people have passed. somehow he gets internal affairs pretty well. Well, it's the same thing. I think a lot of people pass on internal affairs. Yeah. And you can see why.

I mean, the content is pretty toxic. But you know what else happens in 1990 van? What? The Richard Gear comeback year meets the Andy Garcia Sons. Because that's happening. Because we have this and we have Godfather 3, which gets nominated for supporting actors. He's awesome in it.

He's fantastic. Coming off Black Rain and this is like, we think this is going to be one of the big actors than I did. Yeah. I feel like he had that in common with Ray Leota, which I always thought that Ray Leota with the looks, the charm,

the acting chops, always wondered why Ray Leota didn't break through to the next level of Hollywood star. And it's kind of the same thing with Andy Garcia. Fantastic, fantastic career from Andy Garcia, but never quite became the guy on the next level that I thought he was going to. It's a one movie away. Right.

Syndrome. Yeah. We talked about this a little with when we were talking about Rebecca D'Morne last week, and actresses is a little more complicated. But with the actors, sometimes they just never had that one last part. Like, Costner had no way out. And it's like, oh, Koster, here we go. But then he had Field of Dreams.

But it's also Durham. And then it just kept going. And you have to also move from the young supporting actor role or the, you know, like basically the foil to the star to the star. And Garcia had a harder time doing that, I think. I wonder how much of it was the Latino thing, just people being afraid to put him. Because I feel like he could have played 80% of the Kevin Costner parts.

Sure. But. Well, the roles for him to play is what you're saying. Yeah. My thing is, if you're doing scouting combine for, like we're in NFL draft season, if you're doing scouting combine for what you'd want from an A-list actor to lead a movie, he checks every box.

And I was, I mean, I was, I remember when he got beheaded in Black Rain, spoiler alert. Yeah. But he's like, oh, no. He's, they got him. You can see it in the untouchables. When he first pops up in the untouchables, you're like, oh, my God, this guy's like electric. He's going up against everybody in this movie.

He's going up against Connery. He goes toe to toe with him. What's cool about this movie is I feel like him and gear are at the peak of their powers. And the two characters, they just have a chemistry. There's a lot of backstory with that that we'll get to. But you just feel like... they're competing for the movie in some ways. Like, who, whose movie is this?

But then the two characters are competing against each other. There's the sexual stuff. Why do you think more movies don't do this with male actors where that, like, I could fuck your wife if I wanted to. The sexual component of movies has been almost completely removed. I mean, there's debates now about whether or not movies should have love scenes. But even beyond that, like, I don't even really think that there's a lot of, like, I don't really think that films

contemporary mainstream movies really get too deeply into people's sexual pathologies, I guess. Like the what's going on with your marriage kind of dialogue and somebody using that as a weapon to be like, oh, there's something here and now I'm gonna really twist it. It's a lot more complicated now

for obviously a lot of societal and cultural reasons. But I would also say this with what you're talking about, with the guys and I'm fucking your wife type of thing. Think about this movie in the of the male leads. You have three fantastic looking male leads. You have Billy Baldwin,

and then you have Andy Garcia, and you have Richard Gear. Richard Gear is the guy who can fuck both of their wives. He does. He does one. He goes away for the second one. He thought that it was going to happen. She looks fantastic in this movie, too.

So that, in and in it of itself, to play that role, to, like, play the cook and, like, another guy be the Lothario, A lot of those leading man type guys when they're in there, they don't want to really do that. Like that, you're seeding a sort of sexual power that a leading man should have to another actor,

and it's kind of difficult. Yeah, Cruz isn't signing up for this. He's not going to play. So Richard Gere's going to talk about fucking my wife? No, I'm not doing it. Right. And then not only talk about fucking him, but going to drive you so crazy

that you're going to believe that it fucking happens with the whole little flashback and all of that stuff. He's just going to get in your mind like that. It's tougher for male leads to do that, feel like. Well, they reportedly did not get along when they were filming this movie. And I like that. I feel like you can feel that.

And the elevator scene, I think gear got a couple extras in. And then in the research, not positive, it's true, but it seems too weird not to be true. Garcia refused to attend the rap party. Interesting. I thought you were about to say in the research, it appears to be true that gear fucked Garcia's girl. Just to getting character It's a method actor Right

Also in 1990 Dirty Cops This is kind of the We're about to hit Especially in L.A. We're about to hit of five-year stretch air Where this becomes the dominant theme

Not only in L.A. But in the country Yep And this movie's early on it And this is kind of the end Of the dirty cops As popcorn entertainment era Yeah, when does it start

Like, I mean It's shit Rodden King shifts it Yeah. It changes right after that. You can't do it quite this way. Even Colors has it, like, there is like something redeemable about, you know what I mean? Well, I mean, they're in colors, they're more renegade cops than they are dirty cops because they still have some cop type ethos.

Yes. But post-Rogers is not aged well. No, I know. Colors will not be on the rewatch. Like. Which is really saying something because we're doing internal affairs. Right. Color is like, who.

But like, once we really started to interrogate policing. in a real way, these movies kind of went. I mean, Training Day is the biggest one since that time, but these movies kind of changed the little bit. Training Day is in a completely different prism, and it knows it. This movie's kind of like, ah, it's fun to watch Richard Gear be a dirty cop.

We should have more dirty cop movies. And then three years later, we're like, eh. I was rooting for him. Yeah. Like, it went. She ate kids to pay for. Yeah, eight kids. Go get yours, Richard.

When the shit happens with the van and the guy, I was like, God, damn. Not my man, Peck. his pet going to do now? Like, who is pet going to have to fuck to get out of this situation? He's got to hit up another pimp. He's got to have sex with the mayor's wife. Right.

His sentence commuted. This movie has lines like, you've had three 181s for excessive forces in the last 10 months. You're wearing a hole in the carpet. Yeah. And it's like, oh, man, why can't Billy Baldwin just stop with the excessive force stuff? Five years later, that's out the window. But I do really like dirty cop movies.

Like, I actually don't feel like we've had enough. Well, I think that... Because this is, like, the last line of defense for us, right? So when they're going sideways, to me, it's just interesting as a viewer. There's so many different ways that could go. Like, has there been a great dirty cop TV show? Well, we own the city is pretty great. The Shield?

No, the Shield. They're not dirty in the Shield. What's a game? They're pretty good at the Shield. The Shield? Yeah, they're dirty. I guess the Shield's the closest, right? We on The City was only six episodes.

Yeah. I mean, I think that there's, like, there's aspects of, like, the dirty cop thing in a lot of shows, but it just, I think TV tends to do more procedurals. Yeah. So you tend to do more law and order type of things, like, rather than, like, let's do an expose on, like, I mean, the wire and. So that's what I was about to bring up. Yeah. So the wire, you wouldn't see the cop, you wouldn't say that the cops are dirty in the wire. Yeah.

But they beat the dog shit out of suspects. Yeah. At the drop of a hat, right? they'll plant a little evidence when they have to you see a couple of these herkin carver take some money the whole not so they're more human than they are police which makes the lens that you look at them through a little bit different yeah that's a good point

Billy Baldwin Internal Affairs almost got there Internal Affairs 1990 Flatliners 1990 Backdraft 91 3 of Hearts 93 which I will still defend that's a good movie and then Sliver, which was just in the news because he had a back and forth with Sharon Stone, Hollywood gave him a four-year window. Give him a shot.

Prove it to us. A little like Kenny Pickett on the Steelers. Sorry, Kenny, we gave him two years. We're trading to the Eagles. Billy Baldwin got traded to the Eagles after Sliver was over, and his brother kind of took the spot. I was like them.

But something must have been missing in the Billy Baldwin package. But I always thought, I liked him during the stretch. He might just be too cute. Billy Baldwin might just be too, when they're like, oh man, van, you're coked out. I'm like, is he? He seems like he looks great.

His eyes weren't sunken in enough. No, I mean, he's just like, you can't mess. You can't scuff that diamond up. Right. You know, like back then, like, so he does this but flatliners and backdraft, right? Yeah. It's pretty much, yeah. Then fair game comes around at some point.

That's when the wheels come up. Yeah, because she was so hot at that point. Yeah. She's like one of the worst actresses that's ever been committed to film. Right. But she was so hot at that point. If that movie doesn't get across the finish line, then people aren't interesting in seeing Billy Baldwin in any real way for like a blockbuster type of movie.

I do wonder whether or not, just to quickly go back to your dirty copy. Did Al-Baldwin market correct Billy Baldwin? If Al-Fle-Baldon doesn't exist? They were like parallel track. I think Alex is before Billy. Alex is in like- Did you ever thought about, man, if Alc Baldwin wasn't here, I would have gotten some great roles.

I could have been the doctor and malice. Alec actually has talked about this before. He was like at one point, Billy was the hot Baldwin brother. And that's the point that Alex starts. Because, you know, I think Malice, when does Malice come out? Right around here. 92, 93. Malice is good.

Yeah, Malice is fantastic. Yeah. So, like, Alec Baldwin is probably the more serious Baldwin brother, even during that time. But he was going in the 86-87 range. It would be like if we had, I don't know, Daniel Ryan. working for us, your older brother. And I had been doing the rewatchables with him because he loved heat. And you're like, man, I love teeth too.

Why did Daniel Ryan get to do it? That could have been me. Do you think that Bad Lieutenant pretty much ends the dirty cop movies? Did you like Bad Lieutenant? Well, I think it's the dirtiest cop that's ever lived. That one went too far for me. I know some people love it, but that's not a rewatchable for me.

It's a fun movie. It's not a fun. It's just so absurd. It tried too hard to be deranged. There's a line. That's what I love about this movie is deranged, but it doesn't try too hard. Written by Henry Bean. Oh, I forgot with Billy Baldwin. He plays a guy named Van. Van Stretch. Van Stretch.

Another reason why is... How have I never called you Van Stretch? This movie, like, spoke to me as a kid, because I never got to see anybody named Van in the movie. See, because one of my unanswerable questions for this movie was, is it Van Stretch like Van Lathen, or is it Van Stretch like Keith Van Horn, and they just don't call him by his first name. They call him Van Van Stretch. No, I think his name's Van Stretch.

I think his name is Van Stretch. So how many movies vans have there been? Not very many, Boas. Van Wilder. Van Wilder's one. And by the way, all throughout college, they call me Van Wilder. You Wilder and Van Wilder, oh, my God, you Wilder. Would you rather be called Van Wilder or Van Stretch?

Got to be Van Wilder. Okay. Because Van Stretch got cooked hard. So there's no, like, Van Johnson. You know, you have to add, like, the weird last name, too. It's got to be Van Wilder or Van Stretch. Stretch. Like Van Smith.

It doesn't work. This movie was written by Henry Bean and directed by Mike Figgas. Yeah. Who went on to leave in Las Vegas. And pretty strange last 20 years for Mike. Yeah. A kind of... Might have gone against Scientology a little and...

Right. Some things happened. So, Figus is kind of an interesting... I'll do the fantasy thing where it's like... I'll just say like he's like an interesting Hollywood director who was very, like, provocative within the system. So it would do these genre movies, but then really push,

push the boundaries of, like, what he could get away with within those movies. There's not a lot of guys like him, like maybe Neil Jordan or somebody like that, but it very, very, used a lot of different techniques, like filmmaking-wise, and then also, obviously,

was very interested in sexual psychology stuff. This movie is very well done for 1990. I mean, it's 34 years old, but it's very, uh, it feels somewhat modern. Yeah, really, honestly, the only stuff that's, like, dated as the shootout. Well, and the phones.

Yeah, and the phones. Chord phones are very prominent in this movie. Well, they also have the, they also have the fucking classic antenna cordless phone. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's classic. The Gordon Gecko phone.

Yeah, the classic. He, if you watch this movie and you put it next to leaving Las Vegas, you could tell that they have the same DNA. Desperate sex. Desperate, almost violent. Remember the one part of leaving Las Vegas where she's walking on broken glass? Yeah. Like the whole nine, like you could tell.

They're both set in a place that's supposed to be full of promise but is in fact full of like sin and desperation and all of that stuff. Should we do leaving Las Vegas for rock bottom month? That's the amount of Vegas monster ball. The amount of months you have on the stove right now. Find me a movie that's more rock bottom. Like leaving Las Vegas might be the number one. Recruit a dream? That's pretty rock bottom.

But isn't there some redemption in that? No. Craig, who's the sponsor for Rock Bottom Month? Probably not people lining up. Boeing? Athletic Green. Jesus Christ, Greg! Oh my God.

It's Rock Bottom Month. Buy the dip. That's a good one. That's great. Great stuff, Craig. $50 million budget for this movie made $47.7 million. It did well. I saw it in the theater.

then was a cable, somehow a cable mainstance. It was on all the time. It was one of the worst edited for TNT movies possible. Because Dennis Peck is just absolutely diluted Dennis Peck. The black and white fever dream footage in there. Yeah. And I was always like, did I miss a scene that this is flashing back to? You don't understand.

I always, that was confused me as a kid. So Ebert, I couldn't find a review, but I did find his at the movies with Cisco. Oh, good. And they both loved it. And Ebert said, it's really a movie about personalities. It's not just a cop movie that plugs in the usual elements from other cop movies. This is a good movie. Gear is brilliant.

It's barely a cop. So I'm going to say there's three or three and a half stars for Raj. That didn't mean a step on your bill. It's barely a cop movie. It really is. It's hard to even explain what law enforcement is at stake. It's like, yeah. IAD is investigating this guy.

And then when when Van gets murdered, they think they have the witness who was the second guy at the shooting. And like that's essentially the cop part of the movie. This movie could have been like, remember how in Ghost, what's his name's character? What's the guy that was fucking Carrie Washington on scandal? Oh, Tony Golewin. Like, okay.

By the way, I didn't mean that literally, although there are, there's talk. But it, but, I've gone to some parties. Right. So remember how in Ghost he was. the dirty banker that was funneling money for the drug dealer or whatever. This would be the same movie with those two guys

within a completely different the cop element of this is not as necessary as you would think. Because it's a movie about power, manipulation, about like, you know, usury and all of that stuff. The police stuff is just how these guys meet.

It's a great turn because it starts out being literally about internal affairs department of the police department. And like you get introduced and Laurie McCaff walks them through all the exposition of like, we're I-D and we do this. And this is what we have to look out for. And this is what people are going to think of you. And you're like, okay, it's going to be a cop movie.

And then the internal affairs actually turns out being like the inner workings of people's marriages and sex lives. This was an era of movie. Because we always talk about the From Hell. I guess you could say this is cop from hell, but not really. Yeah. There's like, because also bad influence with Rob Lowe and James Spader comes out this year. that movie's kind of unhinged too where he's just like decided to try to ruin his life

but this 89 to 91 stretch there's a lot of weird movies even through like single white female like it keeps going into like 90s and where you're like what the fuck this is really dark yeah and it was like the sex there wasn't necessarily a sex scene but there was weird sex stuff

like single wife female has that scene when the bridge of fauna hears the noises and she opens the door and thinks she's with with a guy and the girl rolls over and she was by herself I'm so glad that this came up. Thank you. I figured it might be in your wheelhouse.

I'll tell you, I love single white female. Okay. You're on the list when we do single white female. Love single white female. Court and I were just arguing about this. Oscar winner. Oscar winner. Is that an Oscar winner name drop?

No. It is single white female, just real quick detour, is that an erotic thriller? Yes. In a way, yeah. See, I don't think so. Because in an erotic thriller, doesn't sex have to be a real integral part of the plot?

I think that are the obsession borders on sexual. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. When we do single-way female, I get to do my impression of the guy from wings getting a blowjob and realizing it's not Bridget Fonda. That is not his girl. Peter Wover?

If we're breaking it out now? Yeah. I'll do it when we do it. I'm going to tell her myself. So, one of my best 90s impersonations. That movie is absolutely insane. Do any of your 90s impersonations not involve an orgasm? or Quint getting eaten by a shirt.

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Go find your next. adventure with a Nissan SUV learn more at NissanUSA.com. Most rewatchable scenes. So here's what's interesting. I don't have a rewatchable scene for this movie until the 26 minute mark. And the second and third force of this movie, basically an hour, is one of the

best middles of a movie. The middle of the second act of this movie. When it really starts to get... The beginning of the end of this movie aren't quite as good, but I think that it really throws a good third to seventh inning is just elite. And that's where I I had most of the scenes. But the first one I have is Ramon goes to see Dennis at the

Taco Stand. And he does that. Raymond. Yeah. I call him Ramon. Okay. He's Ramon Raymond. Okay.

I mean, he did both. I mean, maybe because I don't know. He's introduced both ways. I know because I think there's, you know, with his homies and his family, he's, he's, the Latin.

I was trying to show Ramon some respect. Okay. He's on. Ramon Raymond. Raymond. I'll do Raymond from now on because he is called Raymond more. But that's when Peck does, though. Your wife fuck around?

You're married too, right? Just friends. You're married too, right? I'm married. You're married? Yeah. Your wife fuck around? It doesn't feel good, does it?

Stay away from wives. Don't talk about it. So, first of all, I want to ask a couple of things about this scene. If somebody says to you, does your wife fuck around, what's the proper response? No, I wasn't going to ask that, but that's, I guess, a great prompt. I just don't know what the answer is the right answer for that. I just blind rage.

You were just walking the opposite direction. Yeah, just walking away, right? Because the question itself is so emasculating. Well, to be fair, Raymond starts it. Like, Raymond's kind of like, let's talk about fans' wife. Yeah, Raymond has suspicions. It's actually above. He's like, hey, man, as friends, let's talk about our friend in

common, I think Penny might be sleeping around, and that's driving him to cocaine and insanity. But Raymond in that scene, I think, is insinuating that Dennis is fucking- fucking-and-and-then. He's like, you're going to fuck with me. Watch let's fuck around. Yeah, right. And he's like, this is what happens. And then I would like to introduce a new award to the rewatchables. Oh, wow. Which is the Once Upon in Time in Hollywood Rick Dalton Award for the best acting I've ever seen in my life. And it's Richard Gear in this scene. It's Richard Gere Being like, I'm married, you're married, we're married

Do you want to fuck around? Doesn't feel good, does it? It's fucking incredible He is out of his mind in this seat Little things with the hand He's got his, he's drinking the two prostitutes behind him Carp behind him He's framed

He looks away He's small coffee He drinks the small coffee He's doing this and he's like It's intimate the way he's fucking with him As a friend As a friend As a friend.

He's drawing him in. You know how like in training day, like when Alonzo asked, what's Ethan Hawks character? Jake. Jake. When Alonzo asked Jake, he's like, you and your white, I like, a bitch you still fuck a face-to-face. It's so obvious that he is like pulling a power move on him. Yeah. In this move, in this scene, you're thinking, I know he's fucking with him.

But is he also trying to give him good advice? And get him late. And get him late. And give him, it's the manipulation is. so top tier that it's fantastic. Gear does this move and he does it in other movies where he gets super close to who he's talking to male or female and he keeps

the eye contact all the time. He's like very intense. He's always good for like the two shot. But he does it in this movie and Garcia he was doing the look away and he comes back. It's so great. He's just like this guy is like shortened out my frequencies here. Like I can't handle like the eye contact. You know what? That's probably because he actually really

doesn't like him. I know. I know. They're all looking for strange, just like you and me. I don't care if it's your wife, my wife, his wife. They're all looking for strange. Tell you what about wives, my vast, extensive experience with wives. They're all looking for strange just like you and me. I don't care if it's your wife, his wife, my wife.

It's all the same. You're looking for strange. At least you're looking at you see a pretty girl you look. All right? Crazy. one on the t-shirt. It kind of makes you go, wait, are they all looking for strangers?

But it's also like he sets up the reality of this movie, which is that every single person is looking to fuck around professionally or sexually behind each other's backs. So you can't trust anybody and whatever they're doing. And the law of peck. The law of peck. The reason why that might be the first rewatchable scene

is because up until that point, they do a good job of making you a little unsure. It just seems like a typical police movie where it's like, oh, there's stuff happening. There's going to be a band of the runway cops that are a little dirty and then they're going to take him down.

But Dennis Peck also up to that point has looked out for people. You see the way he operates. Yeah. Like when he gets the guy, when he comes over to van and he like breaks up the fight with him. Brace up the fight with him and then, hey, I'm going to make sure that you,

that this guy works for you and send you to the Raider game with your kid. You're like, this guy's kind of the father figure to the whole thing. Like, what's his real deal? Second scene I mean the movie's cooking now Dennis goes to have a drink with the Orocas

Jesus Christ Redis scene is so fucking nuts stuff Immediately puts his hand On Tova Orocas's thigh And she's like She's electrocharged Like she hasn't been in her whole life This guy put her hand

John Coppellus is perfectly cast The fact that he can't get the waiter Is amazing He's like oh one second I'll just go get you a drink He's like, we've made contact. He's like making jokes that he's got his hand up his life's straight. He's sweating weird.

I want you to kill my mother and father. Okay. Now we're going. Meanwhile, I don't know what's going on to the table. They don't give a finger blasting his wife. Well, they don't give the one extra scene of like. Of him doing it, but she's so moved. She's starting to do.

She's so moved. It's not like she's watching Field of Dreams. No, she's moved. He's moving her. Yeah. She is aroused. Go ahead. No, you go ahead.

the thing about that is this is why I always think about characters like that. The most important thing is, what if that goes wrong? Do you know how fucking confident? Do you know how fucking... But he clocks that dude. The second he walks in, he's like, this guy is nothing. That is so...

That is such a big part of the character. Like, he goes down there, he doesn't know this guy. He's fucking with his wife under the table. The amount of times that's had to go right. Do you think the guy knows? I don't think he knows. But he's dead because he's already been, like, kill my parents. And so, Geer's like, I already have you.

Like, and when gear does the, like, yeah, yeah, I can do it for 15. We'll just get some gangbangers to do it and, like, chop their heads off. And then I'm going to leave you driver's license somewhere. You know what I mean? Like, and it's like, he's basically like, I own you now. That's the thing. For him, for him, this is a complete power play. So he's not going to take the money of the guy's offered.

He has this big secret on him. And now he's also taking his life. It's the same thing he has with Dorian. And the same thing he has with us. with Van Stretch. Right. So with Dorian, he's like, we're going to put this crime scene

so that you, this is a justifiable shooting and now I own you. Right. And now I own Van. And now I own this guy. And now I'm trying to own Raymond. It's amazing.

Of course you can trust me. I'm a cop. Next rewatchable scene. The second Dennis Raymond's scene. When he's just trying to get Garcenaed and punch him. Sometimes I come on a little strong. Yeah.

Make a. Hey, man. Let's talk about new couples. Everything's in a hurry, such a hurry. You don't enjoy the pussy anymore. Start wondering. And then he does, though, starts talking about the wife and says she's a little too skinny.

Skinny ones give good head. Pow! Bam! Boom. And then the, uh, he crosses some lines. Craig, just play the clip. You get two earrings in her left ear. She's very, very pretty, too.

Well, she's very, very pretty. It's a little skinny for my taste, but they say skinny ones get good head. Whoa. All right. I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I want to fuck her for a while, teach her how to come.

Get up. Then she can show you what she like. I'm not saying some of the stuff he says. That scene's incredible. So you think gear's better in the first scene than that scene? It's just a more subtle, like the fact that it comes out of nowhere. Because in the, in this,

the first scene with Raymond and, And Dennis, you're like, oh, maybe Dennis is, is leveling with this guy. They're going to, like, they're going to kind of have this moment of calm before it goes wrong. And he just completely is like, you know, oh, just his friends. Like, it's just so no perfect. The first scene he's testing him in a very, very specific way. Like, even with, you know, offering him the girl, he's, he's testing him out. And now he knows how far he has to go to break him.

That's probably just a tougher scene to play. The second scene is, I'm going to get this guy. to punch me a couple of times. In front of City Hall. In front of City Hall. It's part of the manipulation. Well, speaking of manipulation. Next scene, it's a quickie.

Van calls his wife to tell her that he's going to play ball with Andy and our crew. And the camera pans back and she's riding Dennis Peck. This was in the movie theater. Got a gas from people in the theater. It got a gas like Thursday night when I was watching it. shocking reveal. Oh, no. Yeah.

And it's like one of the, like, it's, it's really sad too. You're just like, this is not, nobody's even enjoying this. And it looks like, it almost looks like, the head stretcher's wife is sad. Like, she's, everybody, yeah. Yeah, it's like sad. I've seen this scene many times before. She's sad, happy. Different types of cinema.

But like, in different types of cinema. On the Applevision pro. Yeah. In the band, it's like, right. But like, it's, even in that type of cinema. It's still debilitating when you see it. It's like, damn. See the Westerns?

I've seen it in... I thought you liked Van Stretch. What are you doing, Dennis Peck? Right. Just can't resist. I have the... Dennis gets Van killed and then kills the killer. It's a great twist.

And it kills Van for sure. So you see... It's going in the van. You're like, oh, man, I don't like how this looks for Van Stretch. And then they start to open the door and gear takes the step back. It's awesome. It just moves to the side.

Just moves to the side. And you're like, oh, no, this is. And it's one of the better shotgun blasts. It's a little bit, like, throwback to Peck and Paul when guys used to fly across the room. Yeah. Yeah, slow-mo. I like it.

Then we get the twist of the van starting up, driving away. He's got to kill him. And then you get the really heart-wrenching, like, I'm not dead. Yeah. And I got to get back home to my kid. And he just fucking, because the first thing you see, from Van Stretch is him being like an abusive prick piece of shit. But by the time this movie ends him,

he is a completely, completely vulnerable and character that you empathize with, you know? It's a really good scene. It's a good action scene. There's another action scene with the big shootout, with the other van shoot. That just keeps going and going.

There's a chase. That's solid. And then, man, the jealousy scene, Peck having lunch with with our... And that's where this sort of turns to the rear window a little bit, right? Like, or vertigo or something, where it's like this guy has now become completely consumed by jealousy

and his, like, sexual inadequacy rather than the case. So this is all tied together, the lunch scene where he's on the street freaking out. Can't figure out where his wife is the rest of the day, goes into the office, comes down, elevator opens, and Peckhead butts him and really says some inappropriate things that I'm also not going to say in the pot

So Craig's gonna have to play So hoping that you would give us I have to play this too I have it in my notes As Bill to give a dramatic reading Of what he tells him. She liked it in the ass, Raymond. That's right, right in the fucking ass.

Drove her crazy She came so much. I thought she was going to pass out on me. Drove her crazy. crazy. He's going to do it as Tony Romo in a little bit. Joe, we're crazy, Jim. Or let's get, let's have Wayne Jenkins going to do.

I think even Wayne is like, damn, these are some dirty cars. I got to say, Jesus. God damn. Then he gives him at the end after he says a lot of inappropriate things and punches him and head butts them. You know what they say about Latin fighters, Raymond? You know what they say? too fucking macho. That's right.

Too fucking macho. They don't back pedal when they have to. They're used up young. And throws his wife's panties at her. Dennis Peck was going for it. Nuts. The wife is so flustered later. She's like, you came into the thing

and cursed me out and beat me up and threw a pair of my panties at me. And I'm like, yo man, you haven't seen what this motherfucker going to get. He's not a really bad one. He actually got his head. You don't know what's been happening to him, man. What do you have for most of watchable, Chris?

I have when they first meet outside of the burger joint, and he's like, you're married, I'm married, we're all married. Like that mesmerizing scene. You know, I have the elevator fight just because it's almost like a horror movie scene. Yeah. Are you like, is he going to kill him? Yeah, he's this guy going to die right here, yeah. I like it.

Peck has been like taking punches a lot and be like, oh, yeah, right. I can't fight. And you're like, oh, this guy kicks ass. He is danger. Yeah. Yeah. I have that whole strut, the jealousy scene all the way through the elevator fight I have. Today's most rewatchable scene is brought to you by Nissan SUV, which does not back pedal when it doesn't have to.

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dirty cops planning evidence is always great. Yeah, just as a gimmick where it's like, oh, you're going to put the knife in this hand? And these are the last of the great old, good old days where there was no CCTV cameras, no iPhones. Guys could just be like, yeah, let's just get this switchblade in the guy's hand. Yeah. Now you'd at least be looking around and seeing other cameras.

Yeah. You remember we left out of dirty. movie. I guess it's a Dirty Cop movie. LA Confidential. Is that like a... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like even in LA Confidential, when Russell Crowe just walks in and executes that guy. It's not funny. I'm just laughing. I know it's not funny, but it is, it is... I forgot about that. It is kind of funny. He just walks in and just fucking kills the guy. And then just automatically puts the gun in his hand for the whole deal.

And they're like, you're promoted. Yeah. And they give him the whole thing. So it's kind of the same way at the beginning of this movie. And that kind of is something that you'd see over and over again. I like when a movie does this, Boston's own Michael Beach, when he says when he gets him promoted to homicide. And then Andy Garcia is trying to pump him for info. And he's like, that's just what he would do. You're just like Dennis, man.

I like the movies where the good guy is becoming the bad guy. Yeah. Always works. Yeah, absolutely. What do you got for what stage is the best? I feel like most contemporary menswear is basically what's, these dudes wear off duty. Oh.

You know? Okay. The Richard Gear polo tucked into the collar, tucked in the collar pops. Good pair of sunglasses. And I just, the double, the double award of like,

when directors do their own music. So Mike Figgis was like, I got this. Dundt like jumps in. And then Mike Figgis is the dude Nancy Travis is having dinner with in the restaurant. Oh, I miss that too.

So I was just like, This is just a great, like, Figgis is, like, making sure he gets his shots up. That's great. I didn't know that's what he looked like. Do you know what I have with age of this? Yeah. L.A. as a cop movie background. Oh, my God.

Just driving around. Also, like, it just seems like much less traffic because I was doing some mapping for this movie. And I was like, man, these guys are getting from Long Beach to Granada Hills. Like. Fucking, they went from, they were. I know exactly where they were. And then they end up on Sherman Way. I'm like, that took a while.

Right. To get to where I was. But I guess they are doing the night shift. So maybe traffic wasn't as soon. I had a similar thing. I thought they made L.A. feel like Miami in this movie. It's very happy. The sun's out.

It's very diverse and vibrant. You're wearing a blue sweater. Yeah, so it's 64. You feel like it's almost like in South Beach. I had the Garcia and Gear haircuts, which are very early 90s. Garcia especially, it's almost like the flat top. Yeah. Brandon Walsh eventually would take it to another level in 9-0-0.

And then gear, I just like how his hair looks in this movie. Like, it just, it looks styled. It ties in with the fact that he's this good-looking guy who can fuck everyone's way. Yeah. Like, it's a cop hair cut, but a cop who can fuck. So, Lori McHath's awesome in this movie. Incredible. We probably should have mentioned her sooner, but she's not, you know,

she's like kind of not a great part. Yeah. But she's awesome. Every scene she's good. She really clicks with Garcia. Like, I have a feel for her. I'm sad when she gets shot at the end. Mm-hmm.

And then I think she's good with Garcia. I like the line, how was your day? I got a racist boss, small desk, and a new partner. That was his answer. What about when Billy Baldwin is complaining to Dennis Peck? And he goes, she's on somebody else's root. Yeah. Brough.

I've never heard of root. Have you heard root before? She's on somebody else's root. He's on somebody else's root. Right. And he didn't even know that she was on his root. He was rooting. his wife.

Latin the root. Also, where that conversation takes place is in like this unfinished Granada Hills. Granada Hills development. They've got like the third house where there's, and it's still just dirt hills

in the background. That's great. You know what? That's underrated. Because when you think about, I guess it's lethal weapon three, they're still building the, the thing.

And then the other lethal weapon, they're building all of these new... Oh, construction and in the action crime movies? Yeah. But also just how the cops hide their money. like where it's just like how the hell are they like and when they go through like

what Van makes and what penny makes right and they're talking about the fact that oh he makes $38,000 they live in Granada Hills altogether they make 80,000 they bought $400,000 house which show me what this is all pre-internet post internet I think they're just

plugging in the cop and all his holdings come up and they're like wait that doesn't add and then they go to Redfin and look at their house and no nah van stretch's wife was played by Faye Grant who's bounced around and been in a bunch of stuff but I was like I think she's good in this movie.

I don't know what else. I haven't seen her anything. She was a big TV actress. She was in one of the procedurals. I like the married couple arguments in this movie with Garcia, like the tension, how she's sizing him up and kind of intimating.

We had sex a little bit more often in all these different ways. They just have a good chemistry of her being sexually frustrated and him being work obsessed. The movie does a good job making his character look like a pencil dick

until he becomes obsessed. Yeah. And until he becomes basically Dennis Peck. Until he becomes him. Yeah. Some lessons there. How about what's age the best? Just a great model of co-parenting.

You know? Sometimes you gotta make it work. With your eight kids. With Lolly just bouncing around. With your ex-wife that you still fuck every now and again. Just, yeah. Yeah, she doesn't care.

It's part of the alimony. Right. I like when dirty cops say, she's my snitch, man. What do you want me to do? And the fact that they change the original ending is at what stage the best, because the original ending...

It sounds pretty convoluted. Yeah, he's in there longer. He seems like there's going to be some sort of sexual assault. Andy Garcia comes in. He gets shot. They end up going out the window, falling in the swimming pool,

Peck drowns. It seems like he drowned, but then he didn't, and it just did not work, and the test audience has hated it. My last, what's age the best, I was going to save this for later, but just Xander Berkeley as Rudy, the mall guy. Oh, I love that guy.

And just the idea that all these cops have to have second jobs at mall security. I guess that's the Glendale Galleria or Sherman O, I don't even know what gallery would be. One of the best second jobs. Yeah. And him just being like, you guys just go into the bathroom and do co-cull. And the cops are all. on Coke, and they got to work at the mall.

And hold on, it's not a very pro-cop. Being a cop is a great type of movie. No, it's like you make $38 grand a year and you have to work at the, in Glendale. Right. Yeah, for Rudy. What was the cop movie with Jamie Lee Curtis? Blue Steel? Blue Steel, yeah.

That's a dirty cop movie, right? No. No. In Blue Still, didn't she? I thought. Somebody's dirty in that movie. Didn't she after a serial killer, though? Yeah.

I thought something It is a serial killer Yeah, she's after Ron Silver My guy Ron Silver Yeah, is in there I love that movie I interviewed Ron Silver At the Ali Junkett in 2001

And you had 10 minutes With every actor and actress And I started out with Ron Silver About how much I love silent rage We bonded And I was like He's never forgot I was like I'm a huge silent rage guy

And he goes, the guy who wouldn't die And we were just, we clicked for 10 minutes. It was great. Kid Cuddy Pursuit to Happen is a word. Best Needle Drop. Whatever music is going on with drunk, angry, Andy Garcia, when he's kind of zoning in and out. Oh, when he's drinking the quervo, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that whole. I had the music that drops when the pimp watches Dorian arrest his girl. And it's like this Jimmy Jam and Jerry Lewis song comes on. It's like, dent, dent, dent. And then it goes back to the pimp, and he's got like the bald head with the futuristic glass. Yeah. The Big Kahuna Burger Award for best use of food and drink. What do you have for this?

I just have all the styrofoam cup drinking. Yeah. Yeah. Starphone Cup coffee. I had the big Pepsi's when they're both checking out the girl that walks by and he realizes, oh. Dennett thieves Benihana Award seems to do in location. La Panto Rarosa? I think it's a long name.

The club? Yeah, the club. Because they come out. He comes out. He stumbles out in the morning. wide shot. I was like, that place looks cool. Not the Orocus Malibu place?

That was a good one, too. That was a good one, too. Yeah. Establishing shot from outside the house. What'd you have for a great shot, Gordo? I had Peck choking out van as the ambulance arrived, so you can kind of see it in the background, getting closer, and you can see, like, the reflection of the sirens and the side door.

It's really, it's cool. I like the shot of behind when he has his hand on the wife's leg in the cameras behind them, so you can see both of them. But Carl, the jails. janitors between them. And he's kind of knows what going to, just that shot. He's like, maybe the kids haven't changed. Maybe you've changed.

So this might be too on brand for me. But I have to give the best shot to the camera pull back to the wife being on top of Dennis. Just because that was a great shot, Corrado. Yeah, like I have to keep the back. Because it seems like she's on the phone, but you're like, why is she kind of wincing? Brokeleka. Kalika got upset. I can't look.

She left She walked out She was like Because she saw Richard Gear And Richard Gear has a thing With the black ladies My mama love Richard Gear My grandmother loves

It's all ladies I think it's all colors And so she saw Oh, you're watching the Richard Gear movie I was like yes She was watching She's like you're kind of sleazy in this And then she sees that

She's like Uh-uh That's all she said She walked to the back She's like She's like you can watch this on Vision Pro Yeah exactly The Vincent Chase Award for Are We Sure

This character was actually good at his or her job? What do you have for this? Is Raymond a good internal affairs officer? I don't think he sucks. He's like three weeks on the job goes completely rogue, beaten up cops outside of City Hall, and chasing them all and stalking his own wife, frankly. What do you think his dev talk was like for the first three months?

We see a lot of room for growth. A lot of potential, but, you know. did start a fight with your wife in a crowded restaurant he like killed the cops he was like I want to investigate disrespect they're like nah

fuck you and he's like all right I'm gonna do it anyway I'm gonna do it anyway to pull all his financials I zagged on this I have Raymond's wife

as an art dealer person are we sure this character is actually good at her job not just the art dealer but like I'm sorry

like my husband is freaking out about some case that he has Raymond keeps it all inside though. But some random person's like, we got to talk about Raymond.

She doesn't tell him. It's not random. This is a coworker. She doesn't say anything. So somebody at Spotify could call my wife and be like, we got to talk about Bill. My wife's like, okay.

We'll go to lunch right now and I won't tell him. Like, I'd be so mad at my way. You fucking tell him somebody from Spotify a lunch with him? I wanted to hit that anyway. That's fucking insane. How does she not tell him immediately?

That's true. Hey, some dude called from your office. Dennis? You know, you're at Dennis? This got this fucking ridiculously hot guy from the office. I feel like he dropped by. And I also think that It's ridiculous.

The assistant in the art in the gallery when she's like, yeah, she's not here. She went to lunch and went shopping. It sounds like she does that often. Now only did she say that. She said she's not here. She went to lunch and she went shopping. Then he goes, what time she's going to be back?

She might not come back. Right. Which is fucking with him. And he's making 38K a year. So I don't know what that gallery. They did not have Life 360 back then. couldn't track her on the phone. The Butch's Girlfriend Award for Weeklink of the film.

It's really tough to recover from him hitting his wife in a crowded restaurant. In 1990, it was tough. Now it's like, oh, my God. I think also the fact that it's horrible. The next interaction they have, they go wild for each other. As if that was all part of the magic recipe. If you talk to anybody again, I'll kill you. I'll kill you.

It's like, this guy's fucking lost his mind. So this is part of the thing that's aged or worse. This aggressive, toxic maleness that, like, resolves anything by the man's unyielding desire for the woman, meaning if you really love her and you, if you're really obsessed with her, anything that you do is cool. Right. That used to be like a huge, huge trope in movies. And obviously, we've kind of... You have to fight for her and actually fight her. Yeah.

Right. You know what I mean? Obviously, like, we've disintegrated that, right? We'll be back on slate.com after this. What's age the worst? I have one. What he got? Right off the rip.

Peck taking away that cop's raiders tickets, that guy was about to go see Bo Jackson. Oh, wow. That's 89, man. That's Jay Schroeder quarterback. iconic Kekmo Bowl team. I mean, iconic Kekmo Bowl team. Jesus.

That's Shanny into Art Shell. Oh, man. That's crazy. That guy could have seen Pete Bo. Yeah. He might have seen like a top three Bo Jackson game. And he's like, oh, no, we'll give it the Troufonte and his kid. He's like, what the fuck?

And now he has to go work at the mall. And then some guy is going to come into a Raiders jacket and just be like, man, Bo Jackson. Fucking wear for 98 yards. That's a one carry. That's a great one. Nancy Travis is... Like, why is she with this guy? I was going to say for recasting couch...

It's like, why are you two together? What if... Is this movie better if Annabelle Shora and Nancy Travis swap roles? Oh. Wow. And Anna Lishora has a lot more, like, passion. You know what I mean?

She feels like she has, like, an extra gear, you know? I think the movie's a lot better. You know why? That's a really good one. good one. Because there's this whole dark Italian slash Latin thing that goes on. It others them a little bit more.

There's more of a contrast with Dennis Peck. I think that's a, yeah. She can make them a pot roast and throw it at them. Like she did it to Tony. Slashes tires. Yeah. That's a really good call, Sierra. I like that. I also have old police computers with the green type. Anytime you see

those in a movie, like, how did people even read computers back then? Jumping Jack flash. So Ramon goes to his cousin's club. You're sticking with Ramon. I love it. Well, he's Ramon in this scene because he's going to the club. And he puts the word

out for the driver. And this is one of these. Yeah. Yeah, this is one of these the sink should have been like five minutes and awesome. Like, what's going in this world? What's your cousin's club like? They get it over in like 40 seconds. It's like, all right, we talked to my

Cousins. This is also the part of the movie where Amy is supposed to be this, like, veteran by the book, IAD officer. And she just, like, completely lets Ray run the show. And basically turn into, like, Serpico. Yeah. Right. Well, that's another thing.

Like, he, there's a scene where he pushes her up against, or she's up against the wall, and she's telling him that, like, you know, I'm your, I'm, like, your senior officer. Yeah. That's pretty sexually charged as well. So I'm saying. He asserts his power over her and not seen. is almost sexual, you think that something is going to happen, you know? But it's his mailness.

By the way, I forgot something that age the best real quick, just real quick, a little latitude. Cuck holding has aged. Oh, it's just like a theme. As a thing. Yeah. Like, Cuck. It's way better known now. It's much better known now. Yeah.

I didn't even know what it was called back then. Right. I didn't, now there's genres. There's different. It exists in a way in popular. There's genres. This created the Cuck thriller. Cuck thriller.

The cuck from hell. The cuck from hell. See, we should, that's ringer films for this. Cuck from hell. Yeah. Call cord. Cords up now, right? The Mechanicum Award winning screenwriter, Cord, George Jefferson.

And the cuck from hell. Cuck Cop. A guy named Raymond Ramon. I put this in for what takes the worst. Cuck Cuff. See, in the 90s, we could probably get that made. I put this in for van. Where's the Ramon boxing scene?

Where he's just fucking around boxing? I would say, they talk about he's a boxing. Where's the one of him training? The list is also age the worst. I don't think he would really have much of a career. Right. But doesn't you want to see him, like, just in the gym?

It would have been somebody saying like, man, you could have been gold gloves. Yeah. It would have been a good scene because it would have given him a little bit more, oh, like this guy's kind of a badass as well. You know what I mean? We needed it. Last one is just this movie's attitude toward domestic violence.

That's reprehensible. Everyone in the movie gets abused. My only, I can't decide this is actually the worst or, there has to be a middle ground for this, but it's the Andy Garcia, I'm so mad, I'm laughing face. Yeah, yeah. Where like when she confronts him, when he's like, when she confronts him when he's eating Chinese food and working,

and he's like, oh yeah, yeah, you're mad at me, you're mad at me, I'm going to do what I want to do. And it's just like, why are you laughing at her? Vincent does that. Yeah. Vince is I had Joey's on fuck you Michael,

tell him what told him it's one time one time But he has that like I'm pissed off so I'm laughing things which I like But I also don't know

If it always works Because if I was Nancy Travis I'm like What the fuck are you doing? Why are you laughing? I meant to have to add Ramon Raymond into the

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Cuck cops. This is a great one. What do you think about calling it too fucking macho? Too fucking macho. I think I got a good one. I was texting my dad, who was a former police officer

about internal affairs and he said that they called it the rat squad. Ooh. That's a great name for the movie. That's a great name. I like that. The rat squad.

The rat squad. Yeah. Pretty good. Rat squad's good. The dad was anti-accountability, huh? He was pro-I-A. He was like maybe the large like LAPD departments didn't like IA, but he said at his department, they had no issue with IA.

I know you were from here. I'm from the Bay. He was like, he was like maybe at these like larger departments, people didn't like IA, but where he worked, he was like they were fine. And it was also a rotation. You would only do it for like four years. Yeah, because I think the implication is that he's doing this to get a promotion. They said that you get promoted.

Yeah. What do you have for Stephen A. Smith-Hittest take award, Chris? It's funny you should ask because I've actually thrown a little curveball here. Because instead of the Stephen A. Smith-Hossest take award, I have the John Holland Advanced Analytics Award. Oh, wow. For Dennis Peck's murders versus wives

fucks ratio. So I counted him directly being responsible for 11 dead people in this movie from covers up Dorian's shooting kills Van, kills Van's killer, has Stephen Orokus' parents killed,

that's five. Facilates or participates in the double homicide of Stephen and Tova Orocus at the end of Malibu probably calls SWAT on Avia's bust 8, 9, and 10, because three guys die in the shoot out there. And then might have killed Amy, we don't know,

because if she makes it through at the end. So that's 11. So it's 10 and a half. And then sex, he has eight kids with a ninth on the way. Four ex-wives is still sexually active with one X, along with his current wife, heather. Also beds Van's wife before killing Vann,

Stephen Orochus's wife before killing both of them, and graphically describes sodomizing Raymond's wife to Raymond. He also runs prostitutes out of a burger joint. So that's five. So an 11 to 5 ratio. So like 2.2? Yeah. Who's he competing against the all-time standings?

Of murders versus sex? Tony Sopranos up there. Nicholson and the Departed? That's pretty good. Do you have a Stephen A. Smith? Do you have one? You want to go? No, I mean, I can go.

Internal Affairs, a cooler job than it gets credit for in movies. In movies, it's always like the shit job. But there's never been a movie that's made it seem like, oh, this is actually these people are doing some good. There's some dirty cops. We're going to try to fix what's going on here. And these are actually the good guys. But in movies, there's always like an edge to it where it's like the people that are doing it.

You don't instinctively want to root for them as the movie viewer. For some reason, the psychology of it is I'm actually rooting for Dennis Peck. Yeah. Who's a fucking horrible guy. That's because of how effective copaganda is. The cops are the heroes in every movie. It's true. It's like a Jedi mind trick.

So the people, so the- I should be rooting for- the-turdily. The guys are always the guys who are trying to hold the cops back from doing what they need to do. Right. So it's like, I need to blow some shit up.

They're like the hall monitors. Yeah, exactly. By the way, let me tell you something real quick. I don't give a fuck what fucking area of life that you're talking about. Nobody likes a snitch. The street don't like a stitch.

The cops don't like a snitch. The mob don't like a snitch. The mob don't like a snitch. The Army doesn't like a snitch. But do you consider internal affairs officers snitches? I don't, but the cops in these movies do. Right. And you're one of us, man.

Because they're like cops that went sideways, basically. Even for me, it's like network procedals. You'll see like on law and order SVU, they'll be like, that fucking IA guy is here. Like, it's like, I'm just watching. Remember in another 48 hours? Oh, yeah. The bad guy seems like it's the internal affairs guy. That's right.

Meanwhile, he's investigating Jack Kitz, who is like just completely corrupt. A fucking little bit of a cop. And it's like, why is this guy the bad guy? What do you have? This movie didn't need any more black people. It is the only movie that I've ever watched that doesn't have a lot of black people that I was like, this movie actively doesn't need more black people.

It probably didn't need the black people that it had it. We need to make, did this movie need more black people as a category? As a cat. I just don't. I just, I don't, this movie. No, only for you and me. You guys. Like in risky business.

We should just be like, ah. Risky business, maybe. This movie, no more black people. We don't want to have any part in what's going on. There's some representation in this movie, though. There's not, there are people in it. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, yeah.

Like, Michael Beach and his career was, like, in the whole thing, I felt so bad for him. Yeah. He had to deal with all of these crazy shit from these white people going on in this movie. I felt like he was, this movie didn't need any more. It was a perfect amount. That's an automatic. category for every you watch most of you do going forward. This is moving here. I'm with it.

I can't wait for the Star Wars episode. I can't read so you do Braveheart. Hey, I've always thought Braveheart could have used one like Morgan Freeman, Robin Hood kind of situation. Yeah. One, I love Braveheart. I don't care what anybody says. Casting what ifs are speaking in Nick Nolte. Our guy Nick Nolte was offered the role of Dennis Peck, turned it down to do another 48 hours. Well, he was sexiest man of the year.

Man. this has to be geared. Right, you can't do it, right? This is arguably, like, the research on this one suggests this was up, every actor in Hollywood was up for it. I almost didn't trust the research because they only said 20 white actors from 1990.

Alec Baldwin, Tom Barringer, Jeff Bridges, Pierce Brasden and Kevin Costner, William Defoe, De Niro, Michael Douglas, Harrison, Ford, which is the one that I would nominate. I wouldn't so great. Mel Gibson, a little on the nose, Jeff Goldblum, Ed Harris, William Hurd, Don Johnson, Tommy Lee Jones, Michael Keaton, Nick Nultie,

Palpuccino, Christopher Reeve, Kurt Russell, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. So let me give me my three from those. I think Don Johnson could have done that role. That's my three. So my three from that is, oddly enough, Christopher Reeve. Hmm. So let me tell you why. I know.

Yeah. So oddly enough, Christopher Reeve. Great. I don't know if he has the swarmingness, but to see him do it would have been fucking fantastic. And the fact that he decided to do Superman for is obscene. Don Johnson is almost as good of a casting. played this guy.

Yeah. And gear were in the same kind of corner for a while there. Yeah, Don Johnson. I don't know if he has quite the chops, but he... The hot spot. Yeah, like he... But he'd have been right there. He'd have been right there.

Who's your third guy? You just gave us to him. I fucking lost it. I had it. Although, read the names again? I mean, it's a long list. Oh, fuck it then. Just thought experiment.

1990 Denzel is Dennis Peck? That's a totally different move. It's a big... It's called Training Day. Yeah. But, like, bro, think about the articles that come out. The movie looks so different. Yeah.

See, that's the movie that should be made now. Honestly, I think Denzel could have played that part, though. He definitely could have. Yeah. I like when Denzel got a little dirty Denzel. Yeah. Uh, Ruffel Hannah Rubenup Partridge overacting award. They knew, and they let it happen.

Don't you call me, lady. I come in here. I give these things to you. Give it all you got! This and me. Keep it all your God! I treated you like a son. You fucking stand me in the heart.

Fuck you. Raymond and Kathleen's fight, like the day after. They're just screaming at each other. Yeah. That's right. Yes, yes. That's in me. This guy tells me that something is wrong and you're not telling me jack.

Shit. I was worried about you. I don't know what's... That's that guy a word. So many. Harrison Ford was the other one. Okay, Harrison Ford. Yeah.

Hersen Ford. Because you never played a role like that. This movie has so many that guy. and that girls, including Carl the janitor. John Capellas, yeah. Is he John Capellas or is he Carl the janitor? I think most people would recognize him

as Carl the janitor, but he's been in so much stuff. Breakfast Club, a movie with no black people. No black people. Didn't he need any, zero. Is Michael Beach of that guy? I don't think so. I think he's Michael Beach.

Yeah, I think he's Michael Beach. He's Boston's Michael Beach. And I think Xander Berkeley is Zander Berkeley. You think Zander Berkeley? I mean, he's fucking Ralph from he. Who is? Alan Havy is, I know, him is out on Habe

but I think he's that guy from us. Marco Rodriguez, the guy who plays Demetrio in this movie. The cousin? Yeah. That was also in bad boys.

Well, that's a, no, you're talking about cousin Gregory. I'm talking about the guy gets shot when they do the SWAT team shows up

and he gets snipers. That's who I, like that guy's a super that guy. Well, there's two that guys, Ron Vodder, who we did in Philadelphia. And the guy with the crazy white hair,

I don't even know that guy's name who's like the lieutenant. Oh, the dude does like the Sig Heilton. Yeah. He is in the Untouchables. with Andrew Lucey. He's one of those guys. That's right. And then Jack McKay's fiancé from season 3 and 902 and O is

in the art gallery with Nancy Travis. That's all I got. I have Carl the janitor. I still feel like he's Carl the janitor. That's my winner. I had, well, two, the Latino actor that gets shot with like with that guy. Marko Rubiga. Yeah. And then the guy who's also went bad boys that would play his cousin in the bar. Oh, that's...

Oh, that guy. Yeah. He's a that. I don't know what that guy's name is. Yeah. What did Jack do? Jack McKay was Dylan McKay's dad. I know, but what did he do? Why was he so rich? He was in jail for hive finance like Ivan Bosky stuff. Because Dylan was the richest one. Right.

Yeah. Low key. Low key. Deion Waiters. I can give you Pax ex-wife. That's Lolly. That's the only name I have written down and it's in all caps. I have Mrs. Arrokas and I think Van Stretch's wife was in it too much and doesn't count. Lolly just being

like, yeah, sure, let's go to the bedroom. Van Trace's wife. Ex-wife. Recasting couch. See, I already nailed it. Yeah. Would this movie have been better

with Tony Romo or Chris Collinsworth for the director's commentary? This is clearly Romo. There's just no way it's that. Joe, we're crazy, Jim. I'm not even going to do it. He's trying to cuck up, Jim. Start a video cock.

Orwin Garcia, when he loses it. What was it even that place he went to? A pantola Rosa or whatever. La pantaloroza? Yeah, I love pantalorosa chip. Half a S are in research. So there's a deleted scene, which none of the deleted scenes are on the YouTube's. But there's a conversation.

There's another Raymond and peck scene. They're in a bar drinking and talking about how people want to be bad. and cops want to be bad, worst of all, and the snitch is strip teasing. And they cut it. I think they thought they were good on the Peck Raymond scenes. I'm not sure they were.

I think I would have taken that scene. It depends on where in the movie. So that goes in between... Probably between one and three. Is that after he's beating him up outside of Sting Hall? I think it's before he beats him up. It would have to be before. Yeah.

The car that Dennis drives in the film, a 1963... Chevrolet, Stingray. The Volkswagen. Convertible. The Amy has, yeah. LAPD chief at the time, Daryl Gates,

condemn this movie. Yeah, that's the least of his worries. This motherfucker. Wasn't a fan. He didn't like it. Didn't like it. The worst police chief man. I put that on the poster.

Sent his biography, not a fan of Internal Affairs. This is weird. This is a little bit of a downer, but Faye Grant was married to Stephen Collins, the actor. guy. And then he was the one that there was a whole thing where

it turned out he was accused as sexual abuse of children and she got caught up in that whole thing and they got divorced and he never acted again. Weird. That's my last half-festernernered research. We're going to Apex Mountain. Richard Gear.

It is. It is, right? It's a pretty woman. This is a conversation. Pretty Woman is Richard Gears Apex Mountain. But it's the same year. Same year. He did internal affairs and Pretty Woman in 90. You're saying this is his moment is his 8.

Yeah, he's in. The hottest has ever been. Garcia? This and Godfather. Godfather 3's is the same year, though. Yeah, let's do it. What are the, just real quick, what are the signature Andy Garcia rolls? To me, it's untouchables.

Untouchables. Godfather 3. Black Rain. This. Ocean's 11. Black rain. When a man loves a woman. Oh, yeah.

When a man loves a woman, it's a good movie. You're drinking is tearing us apart. Two. No. Billy Baldwin. Man, backdraft. Backdraft was him and his... I think it might be Thief of Hearts.

Like, they built the thing around Billy Baldwin and the Sting Song. I saw that movie in the theater. I have one. Just hear me out. Is there a world in which is Apex Mountain for the Valley? And in fact, it's not Boogie Knights or Magnolia.

There's a lot of... A lot of valley. Different valley. It's a different side of the valley. Makes you want to live in the valley when you say it. A lot of it, a lot of it makes the valley look cool and wild. Yeah. It's very L.A. Valley.

You don't get how hot it is in some of the places there. Dirty L.A. cops before the worm turned? It's somewhere between here and colors. And then all of a sudden. Yeah. I mean, Onion Field, right? Isn't that L.A.? Yeah.

Like Joseph Whambal books and stuff like that. That's good one. James Elroy books. I like I said, LA Confidential. I know, that's, you know. Internal Affairs? Is it actually, is there a better IAD movie? There's not another movie where Eternal Affairs is this prominent in the, you know.

How about moonlighting as a hitman? Cop. What do you do for your day job? I'm a cop. How about do you mess around anything else? Yeah, kill people's parents. Was Alonzo in his squad, were they hit men? No, not really.

They would rip off drug dealers. Rip off, yeah. They were rippers, yeah. Nancy Travis? No. So I married an ex-murder? Yeah. I was thinking we could have done Nancy Travis month.

Yeah. Could have done this, vanishing axe murder. We've done three Nancy Travis movies. So what are the current on the drawing board months we have? Sex Work Month. Oh, I love Sex. Prison Month. Dirty cop month.

These are, for the people listening, these are actual months we've talked about. Nancy Travis Month. Nancy Travis Month. What goes in Sex Work Month? Is this movie canceled month? Yeah, Cancel Month. That is the best month. That's the best.

Prison month we had. Yeah. Yeah. Those are on the board. We're doing a month in April. We haven't decided. Right. Is this movie canceled month?

It'd be great. Okay. I didn't realize you might want to do one or two. Oh, yeah. We should have saved Internal Affairs for this movie canceled. Sure. More Apex Mountain. Lori McAfneau, no.

Because that would be Roseanne. Inibosaura, no. Bay Grant, probably. racehorse or fantasy team name. Van Stretch as a racehorse is a cool racehorse name. It's pretty cool. Yeah, Van Stretch. But it is a mouthful to be like,

and down the stretch they come, it's Van Stretch. But there's a little double entangering there. The PA announcer might get a little tripped up there. All right, picking Nits. I have four, but what do you have? Raymond out here, getting in fights with Dennis, getting in fights with his wife at Spago or, wherever and just nobody no supervision of his behavior whatsoever and then the other one is

I don't quite understand how much time has passed in this movie because Stephen Orocus needs his parents killed to diversify his business but he has a house in Malibu like I thought he was like we live in a two-bedroom condo and we really need to like but it seems like he's already quite wealthy so what's what's the what's the big making a move yeah sure the kings were for Say all. He's trying to outfit Bruce McDowell. It's the two-man race. It was the Rojas versus Bruce McDow. You have any?

I don't have any really nits to pick. I had a couple of Apex Mountains. Oh, go ahead. What do you have? Is this the Apex Mountain of a man imagining his wife with another man in the scene? I've seen this a couple of different times. Oh, like those little flashback things? A little flash where you imagine your wife fucking somebody else.

So what are they the candidates? So best man? Remember the best man at the end where he's imagining his wife, fucking other guy? I feel like it happens in that movie, the big picture, or it's the other way around it? The Kevin Bacon one? Kevin Bacon movie,

or he imagines himself fucking another one, meanwhile he's actually... That happens all the time. Right. Unfaithful is a big one when gear, after he kills the sculptor. Yeah. When he's thinking about...

Imagine her with Diane Lane over and over again. What about... Does indecent proposal count? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Indecent. Oh, that's... That's probably the winner.

Yeah, that's probably the winner. That's the winner. Yeah, and just, it's obviously the apex mountain of cops fucking their partner's wives. I can't think of it. I have an apex mountain. Yeah. Slapping in movies. Oh, yeah, because he slaps.

He slapsed Billy Baldwin like 10 times. Yeah, Richard Giro. You know, if you watch, as he's doing that, you can see Billy Baldwin already has a big red mark on his neck. They did it must have been like the fifth tape. And then Nancy Travis slaps the shit out of Andy Garcia. Yeah. And that's real. Yeah. Now they've CGI.

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you're having sex she's not like this is a dirty cup she's like this is Dennis yeah that is I don't think anyone in that scene is enjoying themselves very much let the phone ring yeah but don't you have to if the phone if you let the phone ring all right you're ready's gonna come home

the husband if you let the phone ring don't you risk him wondering why you didn't pick the phone up pick it up in a couple minutes Although maybe Dennis Peck. Maybe he lasted like, I'm Dennis. He's a 45-minute man. He's sting.

Yeah. Sting. So Carl, the janitor is frustrated that his parents are screwing up the business so he's going to hire someone to murder them. Yeah. This is just,

that was the best outcome. He took a notepad out. He's like, all right, here are my options. The implication, though, is that his wife has, I mean, she is honestly the, like, the villain of the movie is Tova.

because she probably prompts Carl to get his parents killed, then screws Peck and pays Peck to kill Carl. Right. Orocus. So she is systematically eliminating his whole bloodline. Yes. It's Game of Thrones. Right, exactly.

She's got him to kill his parents and then now got Peck to kill him. That would have been a better, hottest take. Tova is the real villain of this movie, not that is Peck. Peck has eight kids, nine on the first. the way, which we've covered. It's just too many kids. He's not old enough. He started young.

He's like, don't wait too long. That's what he said. He's said, don't wait too long. You're basically every two years there for 18 years. He's been married four times. He's doing a lot of nutting. He's doing a lot of nothing. He's got nuts like crazy.

You think Nick Cannon saw Internal Affairs and was like, oh, shit. This guy's making some good points. That's all you do. Right there, start early. This is a very small nitpick, but I'm passionate about it. So in a bad guy in the bad guy world, well, all the bad guys, and they're all like in weird

clubs, like the club we see in this. And something happens where, like, there's Peck pays two shooters to kill his partner. So four people know about this. And the guy drives off in the van. And Raymond goes to his cousin's club right after.

And everybody, oh, yeah, it was Diego. He drove off. Yeah, he's blah, blah. In bad guy world, everybody knows everything that's going on. It's like there's a bad guy, WhatsApp thread. They're like, hey, van shooter. And it's a movie trope and it's never explained. It's such a cemented movie trope that so many movies change.

You never question. It's awesome. It's like the deal goes down at 5 a.m. tomorrow. It's like, how the fuck do you know that? How did you find it? You know what I'm saying? Peck hires the two people. That's it.

Those are the only three people that you know about it. And one's dead. Peck's not saying anything. So the other guy's like, oh, man. Let me call up President Gregory. Am I tripping or does that happen in heat as well? Yeah. It happens in all these movies.

Yeah, it happens in. So it's like, it's going down, 9 o'clock at the diner. The streets talk. Streets talk in a way that I don't think is realistic in actual movies. Sequel, Prequel, Prestige TV, all Blackcast or Untouchable. I have an idea for this. I have one as well. I would like to just keep the addition onto this category,

which is, or Apple TV's the Dynasty Patriots docuseries that takes a radical new look at what we thought we knew. And that would be Dennis Peck, loving father, trying to repopulate Los Angeles. There he is.

And Dennis is just like, look, I was just trying to keep people together, you know? Family is the most important thing. Bell-Balcheck is somehow to blame for a man stretch his death. You could recut this movie where Dennis Peck is actually the hero because, like, look,

he was right. He wasn't fucking his wife. The wife says they're not fucking enough. Dennis Peck is actually trying to get these two crazy kids back together. Then his Peck, the man. Well, and then you had the footage of Andy Garcia as a bad guy. Yeah. So you could, you know that shining, where they have that shining trailer where it's like a family comedy?

Yeah. It's like Jack towards. But Dennis Peck just tries to go shake his hand. He flips out. My idea for a sequel is happening probably in the late 2000s. Peck's eight grown-up kids now terrorizing L.A. They're like a gang. The peck.

All of them have gone wrong. The peck click. Peck click. They're just terrorizing all the rich neighborhoods in L.A. doing home invasions. Just killing people. Then there's a monologue. My fucking dad, man.

Yeah, he did this to us. Do you think they have like a TikTok house together and they're all like doing stunts and stuff? They're like nobody's going to do shit. The Peck's, Peckxcate. The Peck sect. Yeah. Is this movie better with Wayne Jacket's Danny Traill, Catherine Hunt, Steve Bishemi, Sam Jackson, Michael K.

Williams, Raymond Ramon. Ramon Raymond or Raymond Ramon? J.T. Walsh, Byron Mayo, Harley Mayes, or Philip Baker Hall. I think because it's about dirty cops, it can't be Wayne Jenkins. I think he's almost scandalized. I do think Byron would get pretty into this

whole situation. It's like, Dennis, Raymond, Kathleen, Kenny, Heather, Lolly, Key, Tova, Amy. Why do we get some oysters for the Wolfgang? and see what happens. It's a natural aphrodisiac.

I have an unfinished house in Granada Hills. Just one big waterbed. Why don't we get some oysters coming? Put some Worcestershire sauce on that. Oh, man. Just want to ask her, who gets it? It's got to be gear. It's fucking gear, man.

Gear for sure. Probably an answerable questions. Is everyone's wife looking for strange? We'll never know. Dennis Peck planted the seat. I'm really proud of this one. What's a fair price for shooting someone's rich parents in 1990? Well, we don't know what he actually got paid.

Yeah, so what was the price? What's the price range back then? It's 15 grand for both parents? No, that's what he wanted. And he's $500. And he's subcontracting it. Yeah. No, but Peck.

So that means he's not because he's not taking home. No, it's at least like 50K, right? You got to get $40,000. I was thinking $75. Nine. Did you see the guy's house? He's like, 75,000. Giant compound.

But I can't tell because, like, that house has all the covers on the furniture and it seems unlived in. So I couldn't tell, like, did he buy that house after his parents have been killed? Was that Neil McCauley's house? It looks kind of like it. Mm-hmm. Oh, we did the other one I had. Do you have any in answer, boss? I just wanted to know where the burger prostitute place was.

Because you want to go there? I'm just curious. Like, is it downtown you thought? I think it was downtown. Okay. Oh, I would have said... Because they serve pizza and pinocaladas. So it's like...

I would have said that Beverly Boulevard part right before it hits the 101. Oh, I know. There's like that giant intersection and all these... Alvarado sitting all these. We should make a fictional L.A. hot spot map. Like BJ's on Alvarado from heat. The Burm. Burger Hut from Internal Affairs.

That Tommy's right over there where you said. But also like a fucking little Tokyo area down there. You see that place a lot of different shit, Chinatown. 1990s movie L.A. is so much cooler than actual L.A. Do you think it would be cool if, since we have such a flexible work, you know, work from home, work from anywhere? Just go to locations?

If I just started like working out of a parking lot of a burger joint and you had to like If you wanted to talk to me, you had to, like, roll up next to my car and I have a giant Pepsi. Best double feature choice with this movie. This is easy. This deep cover. Deep cover was conceived as a sequel to this movie. You said that on text. How?

Well, so Michael Tolklin and Henry Bean eventually got involved with the writing of that movie, but it was initially, like, going to be an expansion of, like, internal affairs in Los Angeles. Interesting. Victoria's Dillard's in that one very prominently, yeah. I had bad influence just because this weird era that we're in now with like weird psycho sex movies. You know what I had?

Basic instinct. Pretty good. Coded, basic instinct coded movie. The Indian Red Zwanay Award would happen the next day. How fast was the Raymond divorce, you think? It came lightning quick. There's no way those...

Like two weeks later? There's no way they stay together, right? The darkest... No kids. Eventually, let's cut this off. Is that he realizes that he has to be... so out there to keep her interested and for the relationship to keep the juice.

So he basically turns into Dennis. Right, which gets called out by the Dorian character. You're basically just like Dennis Beck. I don't know what piece of memorabilia I'd want from this movie. It could be a hard pass. You don't want anything?

What about the car? I like some of the polo shirts. I wouldn't mind going for an ice cold giant peti right now. I think if you told somebody's over at your house, you're like, yeah, I got this from the movie Internal Affairs. They just didn't think you're a maniac. It's the phone.

Van Stretch's wife was holding which is riding with your gear. Yeah. Set Warren. Coach Finstock Award. Best life lesson. Your wife wants to get strange. Oh, I was going to say, don't talk about wives.

Yeah. And the gear wins the movie. Yeah. For sure. Craig? Craig. Another one you hadn't seen. No.

I'm so waiting for this. A movie that's older than Craig. Yeah. But yeah. 1990, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm fairly certain this is not the movie's intent,

but I was just full rooting for gear in this movie. Yeah, it's not the movie's intent. But it's understandable. Yeah, they screwed it up. They made Garcia too shitty and not likable enough. There's kind of nothing redeeming about him, and I just wanted more and more unhinged gear. And the movie gets way better as it goes on,

because I honestly thought the first 30 minutes were a little slow, but the movie just like picks up momentum and slowly builds and gets more insane and more insane. It feels intentional, right? I think that's why they, it's like a swerve. They started out traditionally and then it just flips. I think the key to a great villain is they have to be super attractive. I think an attractive villain is the best kind of villain.

And I think gear might be the apex of like hot bad guy. I wish he had played a couple more bad guys. Yeah, I was sitting there for him. You know what? It wasn't the thing to do in that era. No, you wanted to be the good guy. You wanted to be the good guy. It wasn't the thing to do in that era, man.

What bad guys did Bruce Willis play? Ever? Costner played zero bad guys other than no way out if you count that as a bad guy. I don't really think Bruce Willis did play one. Tom Hanks certainly didn't. It's such a great turn.

And his sexual energy... Oh, in like Hart's War. Like eventually Bruce Willis is a bad guy. But like... Harrison Ford did what lies beneath. Uh-huh. He was a bad guy and that kind of. That was the first farmer's like...

Oh, man. Look at Harrison Ford. This guy could be bad. It's some of the best, like, performances. Like, even, like, the little minute in Interstellar when Matt Damon's, like, a piece of shit. Like, I just, I was like, some of best Damon. Damon's, I think Damon's a better bad guy than a good guy. Yeah, he does.

He does that actually pretty well. There is no, like, sexual electricity in most of, like, the male leads now. Like, Gear has something about him, and I feel like a lot of the older movie, like Harrison Ford. Oh my God. Dennis Peck got to Craig. Craig. Craig's been peck-pick got to Craig. Craig's their first night of Cuck Cod.

These guys are all sterile now all these actors, man. Listen to you. Like, he's made you rethink an entire generation of actors. Like Chris Evans is like built in the laboratory. Yeah, he never could have been cut up. Peck. Could call Craig. You know who could be peck now?

Gosling. Yeah. If he wanted to. If Gosling wanted to be, Gosling could be peck. Has Gosling played a bad guy? Is he bad in place beyond the Pines? Nah, this is good. He's got a heart of gold.

He's got a hard of gold. That's what we should have for recasting couch. He's a crime dude, but he's got a heart of goal. Who are the two leads now? Gosling plays a serial killer in that game of Bullock. Gosling is the perfect pick. Oh shit, yeah. What is it?

What's it called? Frilt? No, the Ferlety is the one with Anthony Hopkins. The one where he's, yeah, the two kids are in that one, where he plays a serial killer. That's like one of his murder by numbers. Murder by numbers. Yeah. It's a good movie.

I was like right after Remember the Titans though, wasn't it? I said I'm on the way up. How did, I have one question, how did Peck get Kathleen's underwear or was it not her underwear? It was, but I think he just broke it and stole her underwear? He broke in and stole her underwear? Oh, okay.

Yeah, he's dead as Peck. He didn't have perfectly safe back then. I was going to say, do you think you'd, this is, we could maybe cut this, but do you think you'd recognize your wife's underwear? But he does, when he sees her after, he's trying to see if she has underwear on. Yeah. And he sits her down. He's like, come here, come here, sit down.

He's trying to like, look inappropriate. Check out. It's so inappropriate in that scene. I just wonder, would you recognize that immediately? Would you have to be like, I have no idea? Do you know what the real takeaway is? Like, you're right. In this movie, Peck really, really, really is the man compared to him.

He is, bro. It is, bro. It's kind of like a whole, like, Black Panther, Killmonger thing to where you leave. And you know what? Honestly, he talks shit to the very end. That's the best thing is it's like even, it would be like a UNLV team that was losing by 20 and it's just like, hey, fuck you, just so you know we all, we still got you. Right, yeah.

And one of the best, like, I love the trope of like the bad guy who's just flexes his muscles and he's like, I'm just going to terrorize Raymond for like 30 minutes of this movie. And I'm going to use everything I have in my wheelhouse to ruin your life. And it was great. The guy walks in on pet fucking his wife and

looks at him like, like, doesn't even even, like, this guy's crazy. Like, doesn't even it's not even like, oh shit, let me put this thing away. He's like, huh. The best thing is that at the his dying words are like, I just love my kids. Yeah, what was that? He was like erotically

when you have kids, everything changes. I was like, what does that mean? You just like, you have to fuck every woman in Los Angeles because you had kids. Wow. Everything changes. Everything changes, Jim. The rewatchable was produced by Greg Greilback.

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