The Rewatchables - ‘Mission: Impossible - Fallout’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck

Episode Date: December 27, 2022

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Uh, my name is Bill Simmons. I host the Bill Simmons podcast. Coming up. Mission Impossible Six, fallout. A movie that came out while we were doing the ringer. Yeah. I think we had a Mission Impossible week, didn't we? I think so, yeah.

We also, if it wasn't on the site, it was in our lives. We waited a couple years. It's time. Mission Impossible Six is next. Your mission, should you choose to accept it? What the hell is you doing? I find it best not to milk. So people always ask us why we don't do newer movies.

Most notably of all the people ask us, our producer Craig Horlebeck, who's joining us as a host today. I think sometimes with these movies, they need a little time. Yeah. It's like when you buy a new bottle of wine, that's a nice bottle,

they tell you like, you gotta wait. Yeah, you want to see how it sits. Yeah, I get it. And this is a movie that we all loved when it came out, but I also kind of wanted to see how it sat in the cable streaming. universe, what it was like, how it was going to feel to just kind of slide into different parts of it. This movie has aged beautifully.

It really has. The stunts are unbelievable. I'll start here, Chris Ryan. Has Mission Impossible at some point since we graduated college replaced the James Bond series? Yeah. I mean, it's definitely a much more enjoyable movie-going experience. The James Bond movie, I mean, Sky Falls incredible, but for the most part, the Daniel Craig James Bond movies are kind of dark,

especially towards the end, they become a little bit of a chore. This is like a thrill ride. And it's a thrill ride that actually keeps you engaged, not just like a Fast and Furious movie, not to dismerge Fast and Furious. Well, they split, right, into two different things. James Bond is about James Bond and, like,

the character itself. Mission Impossible is not about Ethan. There's nothing to Ethan Hunt anymore. I mean, he's just like an action. The movies now, I feel like, are about the stunts. When you see Mission Impossible trailer come out, you're like, all right, what's the next stunt going to be? I think that the film.

would like it, like to think that it's very much about Ethan Hunt. And that he is very much like this fascinating protagonist. But yeah, it's about, it's about Will Tom Cruise Live when he jumps off the tape. Yeah, if you said, name, give five traits of Ethan Hunt. I'd be like, uh, likes to ride motorcycles. He's really good at fantasy football. Like, what are his hobbies? Where does he live?

He's just kind of an alien. Yeah. But I think with the James Bond thing, when I was growing up, James Bond was always like, it just felt like the best. biggest movie. Like the shit that, like, they fucking did moonwaker. It was in outer space. And they would just take big swings.

And I do feel like Mission Impossible has kind of replaced that. Fast and Furious a little bit, too, as Fast and Furious got a little more crazy. But a lot of people are on the Bond corner. So you're way younger than us, Craig. Yeah. What does the Bond series mean to you compared to Mission Impossible? I just see them as two different, they're in two different categories to me. Mission Impossible is with Fast and Furious.

I guess you could say the Born movies. James Bond, like, honestly now is, like, more of like an Auteur action series. Yeah. I don't see them in the same case. Yeah, it's like Sam Mandis or Carrie Fukenaga making, like, a really, like, deep prestige espionage thriller. Yeah, and I feel like since like, since like 2010-ish, I feel like we've entered a new era of into a new era of action movies where it's like, we're really flexing with what we can do with stunts and technology and Fast and Furious and Mission Impossible in the last 10 years. I feel like we're in a real true new era. Like what they were doing with Boren and Damon in like the 22,000s does not compare to what Cruz is doing now.

Yeah, how would you compare this to Boren, Chris? I mean, BORN is much more psychologically deep to me and rooted in the real world. I mean, every single movie, not everyone, but almost all of the Mission Impossible involve plutonium being out in the wild. And the Born movies are just like this guy trying to figure out who he is and fighting against these shadowed agents. I think that the way I would put my attraction to the Mission Impossible movies in general, but fallout specifically, is there is no movie I enjoy more while understanding less. 45 seconds into this movie, you're like, what? I wanted to ask you.

I always feel so stupid when I watch this movie. I had that written down. I was like, can we do a power ranking of the action movie franchises we love the most that we're the most confused by? I never know what's going on any Mission Impossible. Even the Bourne movies, I get a little confused. Fast and the Furious is simple enough. I work really hard to understand what Treadstone is

versus what Black Breyer is in Bourne movies. And they actually, I think, have that mapped out. It's like in the voiceover narration of the opening of this film where Tom Cruise is watching the video that is introducing him to the new scenario, they lose me in like 40 seconds. It's like being back in eighth grade math. And I'm like, I have these basic concepts for sure.

And then I'm like, wait, excuse me, what was that? All right. What is why you're validated? Well, I'm just going to tell you what I think happened. Let's do it. So there's like the apostles. They're up to stuff. Yeah.

That guy with the beard, they want to get him back because he knows how to make stuff. Solomon Lean, yeah. They got a nuclear physicist and he's going to blow some stuff up with the plutonium they got. And they're just trying to wreak havoc. And the plutonium is now out on the loose and Hunt's got to go get it. Yeah. It was my understanding. I don't, we don't really know a lot of background on the apostles.

It's no, so it's an extension of the syndicate. Of the syndicate. I get it. The syndicate from the last one. This is a spin off of that. And there's this guy John Lark. But they say that in 10 seconds. Right. There's this dude John Lark who's got a manifesto.

Right. So Cruz has to pretend he's taught John Lark. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Yeah. I didn't care.

You could probably tell me what the plot of Fast 8 is right now. Like, I'm sure you could like, be like, and then Dom does this. Says Charlize? Yeah. She had some revenge on her mind. Yeah, see? You get real serious.

All you need to know with these movies, it's like plutonium. It's like, oh, plutonium. We got to get that. These movies are just vehicles for Tom Cruise to do crazy stunts now, and I think it's perfectly fine. But I would say, so that is true. The stunts are amazing. But the thing that De Palma brought in when they did the first mission impossible, and that they have kept elements of throughout,

is there is this weird psychosexual undercurrent of this? of these movies where it's like Ethan and the women in his life and the women who all seem to look like one another in his life and all this stuff with wearing masks and all this stuff with imitating people and like I'm going to become this person so that we get this and in this movie there's all the stuff with like lark and cavil and cruise and who's who and I think that that gives this an extra element of spice that if it was just hey there's plutonium you got to go get it it wouldn't have quite the same depth So you're saying there's just a whiff of eyes wide shut.

A little bit of Hitchcock. They kind of call out the eyes wide shut a little bit, and he goes into that big funeral scene. Yes. Yeah. The stunts are what matter with this movie. It's funny because I just watched Rogue Nation recently, too, and that movie seems like a drama compared to this.

It's way more. I can only define these movies. I can only remember them based on the stunts. Rogue Nation was... Rogue Nation was... Rogue Nation and him and the motorcycle outside in Saudi Arabia or over it. Here's how I remember it. Him in the water tank at the end.

Number one. Number one, De Palma, number two, Wu, number three, Philip Seymour Hoffman, number four, Russia, number five, breath holding, number six, fallout. Yeah. That's the easiest way to remember it. Oh, five, side of the plane. Yeah. Yeah. The stunts in this movie are amazing.

Unbelievable. Is this the greatest stunt movie ever? And I guess my, it really seems like Tom Cruise wants to die filming one of these movies. I think he will die in space making the second dead, like dead reckoning movie. I read a whole bunch of articles about, because there was so much material about this movement and came out about the stunts and Cruz's mentality at the stunts,

how they did everything. And they make a point of saying, look, Cruz won't do anything that can't be done safely. It's like, okay, cool. He's flying this helicopter that he had to learn how to fly for six months. He learned how to halo jump. He learned how to halo jump.

He did hundreds of jumps. They did six a day to practice. Yeah, it's probably not good for you. Like somehow, it's not good for you. Like, you're not, you're not supposed to scuba dive after getting off a plane. Like, I can't imagine halo jumping all day long is good for you. Because there's always, like, there's always mystery with Cruz and his sex life and who he's with and his partners and all that stuff. Cruz is a fucking maniac.

He doesn't need to have sex. No. He's just like, you know what I'm doing today? I'm going to fucking jump off planes all day. What is he? Like a blowjob? Sex is way too boring for Cruz. He's like, yeah, I've tried blow jobs.

Pretty good. I did not expect us to arrive at Tom Cruise transcended sex coming up next. I think he did. Yeah. I think that's why. Coming up next, I'll tell you why Tom Cruise doesn't need to go in the bedroom. Gets his orgasms from a plane. Yeah.

Cruz was upset about the Halo jumps because he'd only done a few hundred of them. A few hundred of them. I haven't done a few hundred of anything other than like video games. And pods, yeah. Yeah, and podcasts. Yes. A few hundred jumps out of a plane with mass on. With a camera guy skydiving next to him with a rig on his helmet,

staying within three feet of him. I don't want to step on the rewatchable scenes too much, but the big stunts were the halo jump, that crazy rock climb at the end after the helicopter breaks, him flying the helicopter. Then the motorcycle thing, which I thought watching last night, I was like, oh, this must have been the one thing they CGI'd.

Nope. They had like 70 stunt drivers with cars and crews driving the wrong way in a motorcycle without a helmet. And everybody kind of knew not to hit him. Yeah. That's insane. And then it's like, what happens if he gets hurt? Well, he did get hurt. He broke his ankle and that became one of the legacies of this movie.

He breaks the ankle doing the stunt. They keep that in the movie. Yeah. And it's pretty gross. Do you watch it? Yeah. You can see it. Yeah.

We were just talking about it before you walked in. It's like a Gordon Hayward type of. I don't know how he came back in nine weeks. We can talk about it. Like Tom Cruise being a fucking alien. You think he failed some HGHS? The three of us went out into the hallway right now. I don't think we could sprint as much as Tom Cruise sprints in this movie.

It's the most running he's done. Yes. Well, the other thing is he's not quite as, he's definitely got a little bit of a limp post because they didn't film all the sprinting scenes, I don't think yet. And then they'll watch after it and he's fucking playing hurt. Like, Cruz is just an all-time maniac. We're so spoiled by him. Once he's too old to, you know, act in action movies,

I don't know what we're going to have next. He set the bar so high. We're so spoiled now. What is the next generation of action movies going to look like? I think it's a great point because in sports, I was thinking about this last night, like in sports. Like we look at like Brady and LeBron. We're like, man, these guys can't believe how long they've been able to do this.

Like 20 years of LeBron, 25 years of Brady. Cruz, I was watching all the right moves the other day. the football movie he made in like 1983. He's 40 years now of, like in all the right moves, he's a cornerback. Like he's, and he's really a cornerback. Like he's,

he's basically like, I don't know, Derell Revis. He's like a professional volleyball player and top gun. Yeah. Well, that's the thing that he always, the greatest thing about him

that I always thought was the most hilarious. We've talked about it, we talked about in the cocktail pod, we talked about a call our money, when he has to learn skills for a movie. So now we get to 2018. Now he's like, well, need some better skills. What about Halo jumping?

Can I learn how to fire helicopter in close quarters? Halo jumping in conversational French. Yeah, it's like motorcycle. I've kind of done that, but I'll do it again. Could you have some cars coming at me? And he's just the biggest lunatic we're ever going to have. Craig's right, we're never going to have another time. It does really remind you of like Brady Manning Rogers in their late 30s,

still running the NFL like a couple of seasons ago or whatever. because this is like, there's crews in these movies, there's Wic, there's Keanu. Yeah. And then like all the younger guys, because I was going through some casting what ifs here, and I was trying to find like younger actors to maybe play Walker or whoever.

Yeah. And they're all in Marvel movies. That's the thing. We're so advanced now technologically that any of these stunts that we would need to do in the next 10 years of movies can obviously just be CGIed. But Cruz refuses to do that.

And I don't know if there's going to be other actors coming up who are going to refuse to use CGI and do all their own stunts. I just don't know why they would do that. Well, the other thing, WIC comes out in, WIC 2 is 2000, or WIC 1 was 2015? Yes.

Yeah. WIC 2's right around. Wicks a little on Ethan's corner. Yeah, but. And Cruz is like, I've got your John Wick. Wicks. But Wick is much more like, tactical arts. Yes, yes.

It's much more Asian, like, influence, like, like Hong Kong's in the influence. Still in the corner. Yeah. Cruz is always looking out for who's on his corner. Yeah. But Keanu is like, what, 50 years old? They're like basically, he's like his younger brother.

Like Cruz is 60. He's 57 when he makes this. Keanu's in his 50s. I just don't understand how he does this at his age. I don't think we appreciate it enough. I don't think we do either. I think in sports it would be all we talked about. Sometimes it's bittersweet though because you have this experience where you're growing up

the last like 15 years of Tom Cruise are mostly these movies and Top Gun. Bill and I grew up with him as the guy in Ramos. Man and the guy in Way more charisma. Yeah, the guy in color of money and the guy in a few good men. And I just don't know if he'll ever make another movie like that.

You know, like he... Well, we talked about it with the verdict. Yeah. Would Cruz ever do the verdict? Then the answer is no. Right. Even in this movie, like, in his last, Rogue Nation is really

one of the worst Cruz's hairdoes. Yeah. It's been some really shaky. Kind of like the longish hair. Yeah. And it's like, dude, you're in your mid-50s. Like, no, your hair doesn't look like this. But then in this one, it's like a darker.

Right. but then they'll have the close-up sometimes and Cruz looks a little older. There's a charisma that kind of faded with him, but he's still Tom Cruise, and he fell on Top Gun Maverick too. You get little... You get little slivers of it.

But even in this movie, there are a couple of like, he's got it, he's still got it. It's weird that he holds it back so much. And I do wonder whether or not, like, there is like a physical wear and tear of what he's done over the last 15 years where he's like, I don't really...

I mean, part of it I think is probably also like he's not that much like he's not he can't be a real person he can't go to the supermarket he can't like have like a funny conversation with somebody he just has to learn more skills yeah he just has to fucking jump out of airplanes yeah what's he doing every day yeah he's almost like bill murray and groundhog day where bill murray is like every i'm gonna learn how to play the piano he's essentially david blaine now yeah but like when you see him in rayman you're like this is a guy who once bought a bad car you know what i mean this is a guy who who's like doesn't have enough change for the pay phone right now like it's it's a real person his

stunt coordinator for this movie was named Wade Eastwood and he explained the Cruz thing. There's a guy named Wade Eastwood. That has to be a stage name. That seems like the kind of name I would come up with if my parents were like, what would you prefer to be named? Wade Eastwood! Refer to me as such!

He said, he's talking about Cruz. He said the training for each stunt is relentless. He's activating and engaging different muscles for months. What he puts his body through is intense, even when there's machinery there to help. Every time he got in the car at the end of the day,

he was asleep within five minutes. That's why he doesn't need sex. Yeah. It's just sleeping and riding a motorcycle. And he's just the exhilaration of just being Tom Cruise every day. Why do you need that woman to that? He's more of an athlete than he is an actor at this point.

He really is. This makes me think, like, could LeBron James could he just go Tom Cruise and play until he's like 57? All he does is play for the Lakers and then get in a hyperbaric chamber. Right. He's like, I'm going to do another free halo dives today. So he said, so the biggest stunts were the halo jump, which they said usually takes about 10,000 jumps before they feel good about it.

So he had like a few hundred. They also had to film them because for some reason, McCrory, Christopher McCoy, the director, Cruz, they decided it has to be at dusk when you do this stunt. So they can only do this jump once a day. So he would practice all day, try to get this. they had two other people jump out with them. One guy had this camera on that had some weird focus thing on it. And they had to get it so that crew stayed in the shot.

And then also had to go grab Henry Cavill's character. Yeah, also imagine being Henry Cavill and everything you've ever done before this. He has said that he was just like, this is the hardest thing I've ever done. All the like Superman stuff with like tails in comparison. Yeah, he was like, I just needed to get ripped for Superman essentially. And like the only work I had to do was like in the gym. Yeah, and everything else is CGI. And now he's coming in, he's got to do halo jumps with Tom Cruise.

He's hanging off the side of a Himalayan cliff. He's got to be like, I'm seven inches taller than this guy. I'm handsome. I'm younger. And I can't keep up with this guy. Oh, great, we have three more halo jumps. Like, fucking kill me. Why did I sign up for this?

I've done an erotic thriller. I have to say that, like, you know, because on other pods, this has been coming up a lot because the Hollywood is having such a tough time, right? now. And one of the things that always blows my mind is when you're like, oh, wow, like, this new Martin Scorsese movie's coming out. What was the budget? And it's like, $250 million. Isn't it just like a bunch of guys talking in rooms? But when you watch Mission Impossible fallout, you're like, this, this movie might cost $3 billion. Yeah. They shoot the top of the Halo jump, like, when they jump out of the plane, that's like in the debt, that's in

Abu Dhabi or something. Yeah. And then they land in Paris. Yeah. That's really Paris that they're shooting these car chases in. All this stuff is like paid for. They're shutting down Paris in the early mornings. In some ways like that, it's like the last movie star. It's like the guy who shuts down Paris. They're in, they were in Finland for the helicopter stuff. Or Norway?

Finland or Norway? Yeah, Norway. Just doing stuff for Norway. So the rock climb. Yeah, Norway. It was on this famous Norwegian mountain plateau. Preco Stolen. And Cruz decides he wants.

to just climb the rock. And they're like, this is how we do it, a mission impossible. So they have to build an exact rock-faced replica. Eastwood said, whenever Tom had a break

from shooting a scene or producing, he'd run over to the rock to climb. Like, this guy's not in a lot of fantasy leagues, I'm guessing. Cruz is like, can you hold on? I got to make sure

my kicker's not on or buy this week. Can you think of a guy who knows less about what's going on in sports? Or in life. What does Tom Cruise? Does he know about it? He's like, you guys see this new Maggie Haberman tweet?

God. This is alarming. We've got to get to the bottom of this. What do you think's going out with Elon? It's like, where's Tom? Oh, he's fucking climbing the rock thing again. And he had to work on building up his finger and grip strength so that he could hang off with confidence.

And then Eastwood said it was so cold he had like frozen fingers. It didn't matter. And then the helicopter part, this classic cruise had to get a helicopter license. Didn't have one. It was a hole in Cruz's resume. It's like, you have your helicopter? I said, no, I'll get it. Spence months getting his helicopter license.

And he had to learn how to this extreme flying. Everyone was the most worried about this. The Airbus helicopters, they didn't want to give him one. He had to prove he could do it. And then had to do these kind of stunts in the helicopter. It wasn't just flying it. He had to do the spin shit. Like, that's all real.

Everything he does in the helicopter, there's no CGI. Let me ask you something. It's insane. If you found out that this was all bullshit. Oh, they made all this up? And that this is all just like a really hyperactive, amazing PR machine. You mean like the moon landing? It's all CGI and stunt doubles.

Would it be like a, like what level of scandal would it be for you? Higher than the moon landing that we didn't actually have? Yeah. Would it be like, would it be worse than Lance Armstrong? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.

Cruz didn't halo jump. Cruise didn't rock climb. How about like the CA killing JFK? CAA, the agency? CAA. Mike Ovis. Covey. The CIFT.

Did you start reading the JFK doc dump that Biden approved? So we're taping this on a Friday and a Friday, two Fridays for Christmas. The JFK dump was yesterday. I, you know, I'm lurking around the Reddit conspiracy board waiting for somebody to just put the bullet point. To aggregate it? Yeah, aggregate it. But it doesn't seem like the good stuff's in there. Okay.

Yeah. Same thing for this. movie that haven't really aggregated this. It actually was all green screen. This is all fake. Cruz is a lie. Do you think a lot of these stories about Cruz in the lead up to these movies? Oh, it typically dates a professional, a thousand

Halo jumps. It only took Cruz 100. Do you believe all that? But that's what I'm saying. Doesn't it all seem so perfect? Like, look, every single, like, even fourth-hand story I've even heard about, ever heard about Tom Cruise, is like, he is legit. It's like, say anything you want about the guy. He fucking

loves making movies, and he basically sacrifices his life to make movies feel authentic and entertaining. And God bless him for it. But it would be a scandal unlike any other. If we found out this last 10 years, Tom Cruise is actually like an overweight balding guy. And he's basically had Wade Eastwood jumping out of planes and be like, I'll be taking credit for that way. Well, there's one scene when he's climbing into the helicopter after he climbs back up the rope

and the wind's getting him. And his hair goes all the way back. and it's like, oh, old bald time Cruz, this is what we're going to look like for like a split second. Look, here's the counter to everything we just said. It's the Tate Modern jump. It's like the jump before the Tate Modern

where he breaks his ankle. And you're like, that guy just broke his fucking ankle. Yeah. And kept limping. And that's to take it. To finish the shot. It's that and it's Philip Rivers in the AFC title game.

Right. A fucking blown out. Even that scene where Cruz is under the helicopter that you were just talking about and he falls back down like below the payload. Yeah. That was real.

I thought that was like, all right, he fell into a foam pit. He was actually attached to the wire, was under the helicopter, let go, and falls and dangles below the payload. Like, that all happened. It's amazing he's not dead. Yeah. I mean, honestly, like 50-50 chance he's just, he died seven years ago. And we're like, man, Tom Cruise, he died doing what he loved. I mean, if he died in a movie, quote, unquote, if he died filming Dead Reckoning Part 2, would you believe it?

Yes. Or would you think this is his next trick? B is going to be like, and then he like moves to his secluded island. I think it's going to be like Tom Cruise died in space making Mission Impossible 7 part 2. But he didn't really die. Faked his own death and then goes to an island

somewhere and does all the stuff he missed out. He's going to start playing so many fantasy football leagues. Tom He's playing words with friends. He's a couple of waitresses. He's going to be like, I got to catch up on wordle. It's like ketchup on blow jobs. Boy, these are great. I can't believe how good this feels. Oh my

God. So the actual plot for this movie was Ethan Hunt and his Impostable Missions Force team seek to prevent nuclear weapon technology from reaching the apostles, a bioterrorist offshoot of the syndicate. They've stolen plutonium and a nuclear physicist named

John Lark. This is like shit when I'm watching my son in ninth grade when he's trying to learn biology and it's like, Dad, can you help me out of the mitochondria? And I'm just like, your eyes are glazing over as you read it. Even the IMDB just gave up for this movie. Usually they have like an explaining

logline. The logline on IMDB is just Ethan Hunt and his IMF team along with some other familiar allies race against time after a mission gone wrong. That's the whole series. That's the whole series. It's the story. It's like that's the story is like there's plutonium in the wild and Ethan Hunt needs to make

decisions where it's like does the life of one person count against the life of everybody? And then the plot is John Lark the Apostles, the schism between the CIA and the IMF lark, all this shit. This is what makes it rewatchable.

I actually spent, like, I rewatched the first 10 minutes to this movie like four times last night, and I was like, what am I doing with my life? Why am I trying to understand what's happening here? And then I let it rock, and that's the thing about this movie.

You can just put it on. Yeah. And you're just like, oh, is it, is it Halo Jump Time? Okay. I think it's a really universal feeling that nobody admits that no one has any idea

what's going on in most action movies. I always feel stupid. And I think everybody feels wrong with me. When we get to the Stephen A. Smith Hot Take, I'll have something to say about this. Written and directed by our guy, Chris McCory. Good career for this guy.

I mean, this is... Going back to usual suspects in 95. It's a three-decade run now. Yeah. He directed your Reacher? Reacher. It's on the rewatchables list. Just haven't gotten it yet.

I never saw Reacher. It's tough because he's... It just makes no sense that Cruz was Jack Reacher. It'll never make sense. Did you end up watching the Amazon Reacher? Yeah, it's fine. My dad loved it. McCrory became Cruz's Spirit Animal in a lot of ways.

I think they've done nine projects together, including he wrote the script to Topcom. He's his screenwriter now. He's the first guy to do two Mission of Possibles. It was usually a different director every time. Just gets Cruz. He understands Cruz. And it's a way better because it's a sequel.

He understands Cruz isn't just an actor. He also wants to learn bizarre skills that nobody else would have. I was thinking about this the other day because in the same sense of Macquarie, or the same sense as Cruz not making any, like, Rain Man, Few Good Men type movies. Yeah. We don't really get any non-cruz Macquarie movies,

which is kind of a bummer, you know, because I really like, wave the gun. I really like usual suspects, obviously. Like, he's really good. Except McCoy is, like, gonna buy the suns next week? That's exactly what I was going to say. Like, who's the other than one of the Phoenix sets? Christopher McCrary.

You could spend 20 years scraping together funding for your, like, cool crime movies. Yeah. Or you could just every single time, make a quarter of a billion-dollar action film starring the greatest action star of all time and then when you're done, you and the Abu Dhabi royal family

can buy the suns. He just flies in his private jet to go meet the Saudis to figure out their plan for buying Phoenix. 178 million dollar budget. Seems low. It does. Yeah, that's bullshit.

Is that before marketing? Because remember these movies also are like the most marketed movies. Made almost 800 million. 791.7. Roger Ebert, not alive for this movie. We did have Sean Fennacy. Oh, you got a Fennacy?

He wrote, one of the best things about Fallout is what makes it so different from what came before and so similar to the other franchises. It fits together. In this new movie, The Syndicate is back. Sean Harris is Solomon Lane is back.

Elsa is back. Luther and Benjier are back. Alec Baldwin's slippery G-Men Hunley are back. But fantasy likes how they connect the franchises. But each movie feels different. Which is a really hard thing to do. Yeah. And also, they have Tom Cruise, the franchise player of all time. One of the greats.

So is this unequivalently your favorite mission impossible? I think so. Yeah, it's either this, the first one. I really like Hoffman, even though that's a pretty flawed movie. The Coffman's like amazing. Hoffman's the best villain of the whole franchise, easily. He could, he's in the running for best villains of all time. The count to 10 scene in three?

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Don't understand. The attacks didn't happen. The car accident you win, that was an hour ago. I was driving the other car. What's done is done. What we say it's done. Anytime they just recreate a room, make a fake room. They did it in like Oceans 13, right? I love that.

Fake rooms are great. They just knocked the wall. It's like, oh, we're to fake room. I want to do that to you, but it's fake Woj reporting that Jason Tatum has been traded for Miles Turner and Bully Heels. Yeah, they said they pretended they attacked Saudi Arabia, Rome, and Jerusalem with the three whole, with the three plutonium bombs. Not true. The skydiving scene, which we discussed. I actually ran it back this morning.

I just went down and watched it a second time for no reason at all. Do you know what makes that scene or what makes that moment? It's not enough that they're just jumping out the plane. It's when he looks out and it's lightning. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, this isn't enough. Cruz is like, I think we need to add another layer.

Right. So obviously, they didn't jump in lightning. That must be a special. I think they added the lightning. Yeah. I don't know how they did the tail end of it, how real that was. Like, did Cruz really wait until 4,000 feet before he launched? I don't think so.

I had to admit that part up, right? I don't think they were like, let's push the limits with Tom Cruise. Yeah. That leads to the nightclub bathroom fight. Also, I love a nightclub action movie scene. Wick does it really well. Anytime you're in a large crowd of people raving,

it works. So it's very similar to Wick 2, but I think Wick 2 came out the year before. Yeah. It's much more contained in Wick. It's smaller. It's like, I was just watching because of doing James Cameron rankings for Big Picture.

This fight is also in True Lies. Like, their bathrooms are a popular place to have a brawl. Also, in the Twitter, if you follow any of those real, real-life fights account. Yeah. A lot of bathroom fights. Yeah. A lot of people just going at it. A lot of drunk people standing next to one another, drunk strangers.

Yeah, just like throwing down. That fight's really good. We'll get, there's an interesting wrinkle with that fight. That you follow? Real fights? It's called like best fights, something like that. I don't know. Ben Simmons turned me on to it.

World Star? No, it's an actual Twitter and they just show like fights. Okay. The next thing I wrote down was Paris Chase Diversion Water Crash. Guess it would be the way to describe it? Well, there's the fake extraction. There's like the imagined one. There's the real one.

That leads to the insane motorcycle chase. That leads to Cruz crashing, but then somehow landing right in the boat. That leads to the hot female cop getting shot. Hopefully she lived. Yeah, it kind of felt like Cruz had more chemistry with her than any other woman in That is honestly the funniest thing that happens in this movie is that woman gets shot and then she's just like, man, Tom Cruise is super high. She's like looking at his eyes. Are you single?

We're sorry. We got to go. I'm sorry. Come on. The Paris chase scenes involved stuntmen in 70 cars driving to avoid a hum-less Tom Cruise. How much money would you pay for Tom Cruise to be in White Lotus season three? in Paris. I just thought of him and that woman.

He's speaking French. I would pay a year's salary for Tom Cruise to be in White Lotus season three. So if it was in Thailand and Tom Cruise is in White Lotus 3, he'd have to learn some sort of Thailand some sort of skill, right? He's number one pick, right?

But what would be amazing as if he was like the hotel manager. If fucking White Lotus season three started and it was just like, I can't wait to see what happens, but they've been keeping the casting pretty quiet. And it's like, Welcome to the White Lotus.

Catherine Hahn walks into the lobby. And it's just Tom Cruise is like, Welcome to the White Lotus. He's like, smiles, my name is Brad. Anyone up for some rock climbing? Second assassination chasing. Elsa really bringing it. Yeah.

Is this the scene with the cruise run on the rooftop? No, he's talking about like the second part of the France. When she's on the bridge and shooting at the car. Oh, right, right. Double mass crossing Walker, I've written down. The Alec Baldwin Moll Hunt. It's just the job. No hard feelings.

Ruined your day, haven't I? Oh, and you were doing so well up until then. And I think this one's loaded. You want to find out? Nothing better than a mass cross. Also, like, well, we'll get to it with the Nipix. Next one I have is cruise running, jumping, climbing, standing on a giant building. Okay, that's not right.

Right? Now? Yes, right. Are you sure? Yes, I'm... Oh, it's left. Turn left. Sorry, I had the screen lock on.

It seems like he did all of those things, including, like, Cruz just isn't scared on 50-story buildings for some reason, like being right on the wedge. He's a little more scared now that he shattered his ankle, but yeah. Is Cruz just dead inside? Like, I just don't understand him fundamentally as a human.

He might be, like, made out of, like, liquid Terminator stuff. Like, I don't know. I don't know. If I broke my ankle like that, first of all, I'd be terrified of heights. I'm not wild about them anyway. If I broke my ankle, I'd just be like,

I guess we have to do the rest of this movie with me sitting. We have to rewrite it where I'm like at a desk. Well, one of those movies, one of the previous ones, when he climbs the building, then they took a picture of him just sitting on the ledge, but he had no wires or anything on. He's just like, hey, grab a shot of me. Yeah.

And it's like, you're on a fucking skyscraper? Are we sure? You know what I mean? Are we sure? They just happened to get a picture of him. I have helicopter hijacking. As Craig mentioned, the fall from the rope is really special. And then the ending, which I guess helicopter fight, cabin fight, cliff fight, rock climbing.

The last hour of this movie really hums. Yeah, it's hard to separate. What's your favorite part, Craig? It's the roof run. I think it's the greatest cruise run of his career. There's a great YouTube compilation you can see every time he's running a movie. Yeah. We've talked about that before.

It's great. Yeah, but you're right. This is 57 years old, full sprint, and they don't cut away. Cruz definitely, I mean, he probably half directs these movies, but he clearly told people this needs to be a 20-second shot of me sprinting as hard as I possibly can. The man's 57 years old. It's unbelievable. And there's one cut as he's like turning the corner to jump, right?

Yes. Right. But there are two sequences. Where would you put against him and Tyrico? Just split out on the left side. Similar frames, both like 5-7, 2-10. I think Mike McDaniel could have unleashed Cruz. Got him to a thousand yards.

Do we get Mike McDee to direct the second part? I just want to get Cruz in motioned in space. Cruz is questionable for every movie, but he always plays. Got to put your playmakers in position to make plays, you know? So you're down for the sprinting. I love when he runs through the office building. That always works also in an action movie when they land upon like a normal scene in society. Yeah, you're staring at and that works.

I think that whole sequence is my favorite. I love from the moment they, push the car into the water, that whole section is amazing. And I love being in Paris for it. Just how they use Paris as a character. Can I just have everything

that happens in Paris? Yeah, you could. Yeah. For the bat, like landing in the club, the bathroom fight, the Vanessa Kirby scene. Great. You can have a lot of it. But if you have to pick one scene, bathroom fight. Okay.

I remember just like leaving my body when that happened. The pillars, the structural integrity of that bathroom. It's just pretty weak. Yeah. People are just flying through walls, columns are getting destroyed. Yeah. Really clean bathroom.

Yeah. For like a pretty rocket. And if you've ever been to like European bathrooms, the water pressure is not that great. Like, I don't know how they would keep it that clean. Especially in that place at that night. Yeah. I have a lot of what's age the best. I love any movie where you have to shoot your friend, but it's actually the best thing for them.

Yeah. And it turns out they have a bullproof vest. I feel like you would do that for fantasy Shoot fantasy You'd shoot fantasy to save him But then you guys would understand You knew what you're doing You wouldn't shoot him in the boat per vest

No I would just be like You know I'm gonna wing you And you're gonna have a limp But it's for the greater good But deep down now I have this over you Yeah But now I can beat you in a race The Eyes Wide Shuck callback joke was great

I love Baldwin in any movie Where he's even in the vicinity of the guy from the departed? Do you think that Baldwin has any idea what he's talking about in this movie? World needs pretty about tennis! Two weeks' spite! I think 10 minutes of Baldwin works in any movie.

Yeah. I just feel like... The ultimate 10-minute man. Yes. He really is. And it's funny in the research to talk about what a great guy is. He was so funny on the set.

It's like, well, not as much on the Rust set. Okay. That is hilarious. I like the this message will self-destruct in five seconds. It's a mission impossible staple, but I always think, like, how do they do that? Is there, like, poison on the tape?

How do they make itself destructing? The smokes in his face? Is it bad for him? See, I think if you start pulling it that thread, you got to pull it a lot of threads in Mission Impossible. That's sort of a foundational idea. What's aged the best, Paris as a location? Ving Rhames?

Do you think he's aged the best? Just every time I see him, I want him to go, no, man, I'm pretty fucking far from okay. They, in the beginning of this movie, I'll dress this later. Okay. I like Ving. I like him, too. I like one of my faves.

Do you think he made the decision to wear like Hawaiian clothes of the whole movie? Yeah. I think that he's calling his own shot on the wardrobe. I think that's like, you guys need me for number six? Here's the deal. I get to wear my hats. Do you think Cruz at any point had an intervention with Ving about maybe some Meg White omelets?

That's what I was going to say is that not, Not getting exactly Devante Smith like separation from the line. Right. For Ving. You know? The fact that they had to start putting Simon Peg out into the field.

I know. Let you know that Benji's like Superman. Number two in line. Ving's in the truck. I love pulling a time sensitive tracking device out of somebody's neck because it's the escape from New York callback. Yeah.

But any time where it's like, got to get that thing out, 50 seconds. Yeah. 38 seconds. And it's just, I don't even know how you would actually do that in real life. The trivia section of the IMDB page for this movie is just like a list of things that just can't happen.

Yeah, the biotech in this movie is pretty astounding. Yeah, yeah. The theme song's great. Obviously, the video of Cruz breaking his ankle is fantastic. So it was an $80 million hit for the studio, which was covered by insurance. Tough day for the insurance guys. They're like, well, so Cruz is probably. can't be insured for any of these.

You know what, though, if you're an insurer, you're probably like, this is just the fucking best. How about this? Look at us. There's something to talk about in the office that day. I would love it if we could do, like, a special video of the leap and the ankle break and then play the sad fox on the NFL jazz that goes to the injury jazz that happens. I had that for what stage is the best?

The score of this movie from Lauren Balfi. Got a lot of praise. It's great. What else do you have? Any movie that starts with the kidnapping of a nuclear weapon specialist means it's going to be a good movie. Sure.

The stakes are high. You're ready to fucking rock. Craig, should we have better security for nuclear physicists? Probably. It feels like they're the easiest guys to take. Or you should just do

slightly more diligent vetting where that guy seemed real down for it to get red-filled. I didn't know that you could just toss plutonium cores around like their footballs and it's fine. No, I know. I know.

drop on the ground. It's like a bowling ball, I guess. There's a great line. This goes back to the Baldwin part, 10-minute Baldwin. One of parts of Baldwin's speech is like how coming to the IMF was a lateral move for him. He's like, this is a lateral move. It also tells me I can count on you to cover my ass because coming over here from the CIA was a lateral move. Some say I step down.

But I did it because of you. Don't make me regret it. Make it worth my. while. Yeah, I'm going to start doing that on people's pods. He's like, I didn't update the LinkedIn with this because it's not that impressive. Yeah. All the stuff that's like in the Al Pacino's speech in Muso and Franken once upon a time in Hollywood about like, yeah, you're going to start getting your ass kicked, then you're going to realize that you're not the guy anymore. Like the fact that Tom Cruise, his career is like the, the exception

that proves that rule. He never lets anybody kick his ass for too long. Well, I wanted to ask about that with Cavill. Do you think that? think, I mean, I know Cruz asked for Cattle to be in this movie after seeing him in something else, I don't remember what it was. Was it a man from uncle or something? Oh, yes. Cruz was going to be a man from uncle.

Couldn't do it. Yeah. Cattle was in it. Do you think Cruz's goal was like, I want to pick the biggest, most handsome guy I can find? And beat the shit out of him? Well, this is the thing is so, like, a couple of movies before this, it was supposed to be after three,

they were going to start transitioning the franchise to Renner. Right. And Cruz's like mid-movie was like, I changed my mind. Renner's 0 for 2 in that, right? Born and now this? Yes.

Tough. Renner's not going to do all these stunts. Come on. I know. But I'm just saying that's, it's like the whole idea about like Tom Cruise just being like, I'm going to keep casting these.

I mean, it kind of makes you wonder if that's why it's not Chris Evans instead of Henry Cavill because they're like, so I get to sign up for this movie and get this shit kicked out of me by a 57-year-old guy.

But we all think Cavill is really good in this movie, right? I think he's awesome. But I'm saying like, I wonder sometimes. Craig's a little down. Adam? Yeah, we can get to that later. Well, you know, Craig's theory is that

every actor is replaceable and acting is easy. Especially Cavill in this movie. Great mustache. Sure. Cavao doesn't do anything in this movie. He has no charisma. I don't know if that's the point of the character because he's supposed to just be laying low and hiding his true identity. But I don't think he...

I like Cavao in this movie. I don't think he brings anything. I think he... It's a present. He brings some sort of weird presence. He seems sneaky. Okay. The only other thing that age the best... for me is... I respect the Craig take, though. I need to rethink this the next time I watch

this movie, which will probably be about a month from that. Vanessa Kirby doing Vanessa Redgrave from the first movie, that's your mom. And then whenever there's a nightclub inside of a nightclub, like they got the nightclub and then he goes into the like the 1920s nightclub that's in the back. I love that.

Speak Easy Club in the back. Yeah, that is really cool. I will say, Vanessa Kirby, kind of a revelation in this movie. She's amazing. It's really good. I forgot to mention Rebecca Ferguson, who she just always aged the best for me I just same with Michelle Monaghan absolutely dig her

really solid group of women in this movie None of them have any chemistry with Cruz but they're all they're all smoking hot Yeah Vanessa Kirby would have chemistry with like a wall Yeah she brings out the most out of Cruz But yes Cruz electric

She just does this weird thing where he stands really close and he just has kind of this I think he's trying to see himself in their eyes I think it's kind of He's severely concussed That's maybe because he did 700 Halo jokes. Ravaged by CTE.

Yeah, what are the concussion rules? Have they been updated like the NFL? No. Cruz would have been pulled from the set day three. The only way he could have chemistry with Jennifer Connolly is they had to give him like laughing gas so he could just sit there shirtless laughing for 10 seconds. You know what's age the best? No, mine are basically just all the women.

Okay. The Kid Cuddy pursued happiness word best needle drop. Is it really? The opening credits, they'll just drop. fucking great. It's a Mission Impossible staple. There's also like these bongo drum kind of drops throughout the movie that are really good. Yeah, they do some good drum. It's like where it's the

military drums when they're first doing the extraction. Yeah. This is a fun one. The Kid Cut, the Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink. The answer is nothing because there's no food or drinks in this movie? I'm trying to remember when people eat. Nobody eats.

Since the first movie. No, in the third movie they eat. But I'm trying to remember there's no dinner scene. There's no cocktails. It's so funny. He's like, well, Vanessa Kirby has like a martini. That's pretty much it.

I know. I'm trying to think the last time I've seen Cruz eat or drink anything. I don't think he goes to the bathroom. Well, he has beer in Top Gun Maverick. Does he?

He's one. Yeah, he goes to the bar. Cruz has, but does he drink it? Actually, that's a great question. I don't know. Does he drink it?

He does the drink where he tilts it too high like Vin Diesel because he's never had a beer before. So he's like, how do you drink it? No, but in Top Gun. He orders a pint. I don't know.

Does he drink it? God damn it. Tom Cruise. The Tom Cruise Award for most valiant attempt to emulate a real human. Goes to Tom Cruise. He went his own award. I was thinking about Tom Cruise. Has he reached this?

Remember that Bill Braskey, SNL sketch? We're like, Bill Braskey. One time he fought eight guys. What story would you not believe about Cruz? Like, I used to have the Tyson zone for Mike Tyson. Then there was the Trump zone for Trump. I think Elon is entering the Elon zone. The Cruz zone, like, what story would you not believe?

Like, if I told you Tom Cruise gave himself a kostomy bag because he didn't have time to go to the bathroom, so he just had one inserted. Oh, easy. And he just dumps the bag, and it just makes life faster for him. I think I would believe that. I'm telling you, if the final scene of Dead Reckoning 2 required Cruz to do something that would most likely cause his death,

I think he would agree to do it. This is how I want to go out. Yeah, I think he'd be okay with that. He's like, if this will get us the shot, dude, it's going to be in space. Yeah, he's going to reenact, like, gravity. You know, he's going to try and, like, save Vanessa Kirby in space. And then he'll just drift off when he's like,

we've lost Cruz. He's gone. He's in outer space. Trying to find him, but we think he's dead. I wouldn't be surprised if he and Christopher McCory dial up some final scene where it's like Cruz could actually die. But in reality, he'll be living in the Cayman's making same game parleyes all day. Right.

The runner runner, runner, too. Catching up on Thrones. Yeah. The Denny Thieves Benihana Award for scene stealing location is got to be the giant nightclub. It is, but I also really like the... You like Norway? The Jardin du Palais Royal, the one where Ethan and also meet in the garden there. Oh, you're right.

The trees. That you're right. That was awesome. Also, the glacier that they're on. That's not bad. The Himalayan Glacier. Yeah, that's good. Great Shot Gordor Award, most cinematic shot.

Jumping out of the plane? Yeah. It's the camera falling backwards out of the plane with Cruise. Yeah, pretty great. I like the silent flash forward to him killing all the cops, how they film that, where you don't know what's going on. Oh, yeah, and you're like, for a second, you're like, does Ethan Hunt really breaking bad?

I think that was really well done. The Butch's Girlfriend Award for the Week Link of the film. West Bentley. I fucking love Wes Bentley, but it's so funny that he's like, hey, I'm Eric. Hey, you guys look like you need to catch up. I also have him in What Stage the Worse for the same award. I don't know why he's in this movie. It's now really funny because he's Yellowstone,

West Bentley. Right, I know. And he's just completely oblivious to Cruz. Cruz and Michelle Moynihan, they're just staring at each other. Like, just, they can't believe that. And he's just like, so where'd you guys meet? Yeah. He just has no idea with Jonah.

He's like a shitty boyfriend and a rom-com that, you know, like, about a breakup. It leads to one of the best unintentional comedy moments of this movie, though, where Tom Cruise is like, my name is Rob. Dr. Rob Thorne. He's like, That whole interaction made no sense The guy was like, West Bentley was like

So why are you here? Michelle Monaghan's like, he was on vacation Yeah, he's like, no, I'm working Why are you? Why can't you just say yes? What's that character's name? West Bentley? Eric.

Right? Yeah, I mean, that's a borderline Could change to Butch's girlfriend award. West Bentley, it's so inexplicable and weird that he's in this movie. I mean, for what's age the worst? I had that too. like, do, does

Michelle Molyanan need to be in this movie? I think they need it. Do they? They have. Did they? In their minds, they're like, his relationship to his wife is crucial. Was it?

Luther explains, like, she, you know, she realized that, like, if he was watching her, who was watching the world, so they split up. So I have that as the Ron Burgundy flew to work for best time for a pee break because that speech is fucking terrible.

That whole scene's awful. Oh, and then they realize, it's like, shut up. They just want to have new girls in each movie. What are you talking about? I have no idea what she's in this movie. I don't think it pays off. I think it's weird. I wouldn't have done it.

Okay. I didn't mind it. I thought it added a nice little emotional tug at the end. Yeah. It would have been cool if, I think it would have been fine if it was just Henry Cavill shows the picture of her. And it's like, I'll kill her. So just stay there. Yeah, we're good.

I did enjoy it. Like, every act of this movie just, kind of has a different woman that, like, Cruz might do something with and nothing just ever happens. And the CTA overcomes him. I have for what stage is the worst, the bad guy's beard. I just... Sean Harris's beard? Sean Harris's beard just looks like a fake beard.

It doesn't look like a real beard. I was thinking about coming in today and podcasting as Sean Harris. I'm just been like, Bill Simmons, all of your podcasts, all of your takes have led you here. me. Well, I have him coming up in the recasting couch because I don't think he's... I just don't think he's good enough villain. If the bar is

Philip Seymor Hoffman and Mission Impossible 3 and then by 6 we're ending up with this guy who's like half dead, he looks like the fucking... He looks like Wolf Farrell on the Unabomber sketches that when Will Ferrell used to play the Unabomber. Oh, yeah. I just, he didn't work for me.

What else did he have for? What stage is the worst? I didn't have a lot. I think this movie's really good. Yeah, I had Ving Rames's Dexterity. I thought that manifesto was kind of weak. I had a nitpick about that. How long did they spend writing that? 20 minutes? Was there a better title for this movie, no?

I don't know. You don't like Fallout? Comparing that to Ghost Protocol and Rogue Nation, I think it falls short. And Dead Reckoning. They say it in the movie, though. I know, but the word is so ambiguous. So what would you go with?

I don't know. I tried to think of stuff, but nothing really works. Like detonation? How about Halo dive? It's missing plutonium. Mission Impossible missing plutonium? Yeah, sure. Mission Impossible Bio Terror. I don't know.

Mission Impossible bioterror? That fallout was just kind of a plain, basic word. Okay. But we can't beat it, though. Yeah, I think it's actually the radiation fallout, but also the fallout from Ethan's decision. I know it makes sense, but in terms of like grabiness, I don't know if it hasn't.

Ghost protocol is pretty great. Another new award we don't always give out, The Vincent Chase Award for Are We Sure This Character was actually good at their job? Angela Bassett's character. Was she good at her job? What's going on with her? So when Alec Baldwin is like, I thought, like, I'm supposed to bring them in and she's just like, I've changed my mind. I'm just bringing everybody in and we'll sort it out in Washington.

And everybody's just getting shot five seconds later. So because I still have no idea what happened to this movie, so she got tricked. She got played by Henry Cowell, right? So why does she still have a job? Exactly. And 50 people were murdered in some location that was supposed to be the safe transfer. And she shows up in the end like, hey, we did it? Did we?

That Ethan keeps saving the world in every movie. And in the beginning of the following movie, he's like completely alienated. He's everyone like, we can't let you do that again. So this has been a recurring theme in the rewatchables. The person who saves the world, who's then still doubted in the next movie. It's like John McLean. I fucking heard about what you did at Nakatomi Plaza, McLean. saving all those people.

You motherfucker. When you save those 320 people from terrorists, who do you think you are? They did Ethan Hunts, like he's come through for 20 plus years.

If Sully came into Sullenberger, came into the bar, like, get the fuck out of here, Sully. You could fly another plane and land it.

Somebody could have been canoeing on that river. You think about that? I don't want to disangelo and Basset too much because she's a queen and I love having her in every movie,

but I just thought that character was bad at their job. There's just, I will be getting to this soon. Best quote, I murder women and children with smallpox. I have no line.

I enjoyed that one. Not very believable coming from Tom Cruise, but yeah, it was good. I also had for Best Quote, This is the CIA's mission. You use a scalpel. I prefer a hammer. Angela Bassett.

What do you got for Stephen A. Smith-Hittance take a word, CR? Is this movie diminished by Top Gun Maverick? Ooh. So, like, when you watch Top Gun Maverick... Because this is supposed to be like the last one for Cruz? And it's so straightforward. And it's like, they don't even bother giving the country names. They're just like, he's got something he's got to do.

And you know what else works in Top Gun Maverick? Jennifer Conley. And it seems very convincing that he is in love with her and she is in love with him. And like the emotional beats of the Valcomber stuff. Now I understand it's all Top Gun and it's different property. But if you stripped away half of the plot and three or four of the characters in this movie, is it like 10 times better? or at least like five times better.

If you take out Angela Bassett and just make it Alec Baldwin and if you take out one of the three women just to or two of the three women just to concentrate it on Michelle Monta. You're basically cutting 20 minutes. It's a two and a half hour movie. It doesn't have to be. And also these crews more runway to act

and like actually focus on one woman and you can act like in Top Gun. There's so much more emotional depth out of Cruz and Top Gun. Yeah, but those are really like, the thing about that is like It's just doing the most with the least. There's three scenes with Jennifer Conley and Top Gun. Basically.

Three of the best scenes of my life. Exactly. But I wonder whether or not in 2000, what is this, 18, when you see Mission Impossible Fall, you're like, cruises back. This movie's amazing. I'm going to watch this for the rest of my life. And then you see Top Gun Maverick. You're like, could Mission Impossible Fall have been better?

Yes, because they could have gotten rid of Michelle Moynihan and they could have gotten to run to Angela Bassett and it could have been a two-hour movie. That would have been fucking amazing. Yeah. And I don't think you need either of those. characters. Because Baldwin is the character, you already have the boss with him.

Yeah. So why do I need another boss? Two bosses, three women. And honestly, I don't really even know if you really need Solomon Lane. You know what I mean? You could remove the whole Vanessa Kirby storyline with the brothers and stuff.

Like, you can really take a lot out. Or beef that up with one more scene, have like a dinner scene with her. Like, let's get, I actually was interested in her. I wanted to find out. Oh, yeah. I needed like more stuff with her. Yeah, the idea around having a broker for the plutonium.

That's another thing with Bassett's character. She's with Cabin. He's like, I think it could be Hunt. And she's like, great, let me just type that up. Yeah. You're probably right. There will be like, document to prove.

She's like the head of the CIA. It's like new guys. Like, hey, I think it's your star of 20 years. I know. It'd be like on the Lakers if, like, Austin Reeves was like, yeah, I think LeBron's fucking, you should probably trade him. Yeah.

my hottest take a word I think Tom Cruise is the greatest close talker of our generation these scenes when they have when you actually see them he's like six inches away

from these women and he doesn't move he just stares at them and I think it's his way of being seductive or mysterious it's kind of run out of moves but I was always always think about if you're the other actor

like Craig if I just slid my chair over and I was six inches away from you share the mic with me you would be uncomfortable within, I don't know, five seconds, but Cruz has something about him disarms people. Yeah. Well, I've never seen anything like it. Watch for it, people when you're also probably terrified.

The thing is, is I bet he also is like, when the close-up is on you, I'm going to be just as intense. I'll be a three-teen. And I'm going to be seven inches away from you. He's right outside the frame. Yeah, right up against Michelle Mono. Watch for Cruz. Next time you watch a Cruise movie, he loves getting right in there,

really getting close. I think because, I don't know, I just don't think he has the same charisma that he used to because he's older. And that's like his new way of having charisma. He just invades your personal space. She's like, I'm going to get rid in there. Do you have a hot as take Craig or no? Yeah. Henry Cavill is way too hot to be an in-cell.

Is he an incel? Whatever he is. You know, you wrote the manifest. I don't think the in-cell is part of their ideology. Whatever it is. He's way too attractive to be the man who wants to eradicate half the earth for this new world. I know. He just wants to be Thaddos.

He'd be the star quarterback. He'd be in like the coolest frat at USC. There's just no way this guy has any interest in doing any of this. You imagine a frat that is Henry Cavill? He probably wasn't a frat. Everyone else in this movie, all the other villains look like trolls. And then you have Henry Cavill who's like the world's hottest man. I know.

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Carvana. Pick up fees may apply. Casting what ifs. Really not a lot other than Renner was, couldn't do this movie because he had to film scenes for Avengers endgame. And then McCoror said he wanted Renner do a cameo where he gets killed in the beginning. And Renner's like, no thanks. Yeah, let's just keep our options open.

Yeah. Dead Reckoning one and two is coming. I'll hold out for that. Why would Renner agree to get killed in a three-minute thing for like $750? Well, probably, I bet McCory leveled with him and was like, just saying, you know, we're never, we're never, we're probably, I don't, can you check real quick if he's in Dead Reckoning? I don't even know it, but like, it was like, I bet he was like, look, you can either go out and have like this sensational, like, exit or you can just never be back in these movies. I'd roll the dice with Cruz is getting older. Maybe I'll be back in one of these movies.

It sets up his perfect return. Yeah. See, good blueback runner. Yeah. McCorrie also said that the bathroom fight was going to be with the third famous actor. Hmm. And the unnamed star was put into a fight evaluation, but couldn't keep up with Tom Cruise and Cavill. Oh, he was going to play John Lark, or the fake John Lark, yeah.

With that Asian guy. That guy was a great fighter. Leang Yang gets my Tom Sizemore action is the juke's best toe-to-to moment for him. non-stop. And I think he's in the Deon Waiters category too, potentially. So he is a stunt man that they were just like, what if we used him? And he was fucking awesome. Is this guy going to win the fight?

A couple of times. Like he could be in the raid four. He could just be the lead. Well, Cruz loses pretty much every fist fight he's in in this movie. He does. Yeah. It's interesting. He does go like, oh, for four. Did you have anything for the Ruffalo, Hannah Rubinick Partridge? I don't understand what

I'm involved in! That's a good one. I was going to say the Vingray speech is pretty tough. Not really overacting though. I love Bing Rames but Ving definitely put a stamp on this performance. He definitely wrote the Ving he's like, do you see me in Pulp Fiction?

It's fucking awesome. That's your pride, fucking with you. Best. I like it when you start quoting other movies that I want to do on the rewatchables and like just teasing that you're thinking about it. Pretty fucking far from okay.

Best that guy Word Is there a that guy In this movie Not really There's a bunch I think that Zola Has been in a bunch

of European stuff Could you say that the guy That uh What's his name? Sean Harris Is he that guy I mean he's pretty big actor Do people know he's Sean Harris though?

I know he's Sean Harris When Craig know he was Sean Harris No Were you like oh it's that guy? I think he's that guy I think he's that guy Before Yellowstone

I think West Bentley to me Was that guy When the movie came out I was like He was like that guy That guy from American Beauty Yeah Deanne Waiters, it's either

Baldwin or Asian bathroom guy Leon Yang. What about Kirby? Isn't she in it too much? Yeah, she's in like three scenes. Oh, let's give it to her. She's thrown like a hundred. Yeah, that's great.

I've listened to too many repatchables. Yeah, you're right. I thought she was in it too much, but I guess not. She's great, and she's in Dead Reckoning One, it looks like. Recasting couch. I think we can do better than Sean Harris is Solomon.

So let's do it. Joaquin Phoenix, too crazy? But you'd have to go. back two movies now. We have to go back. Oh, yeah. Michael Shannon. Michael Shannon's always a good villain.

Too big? Well, you wanted to be sort of... What about Phoenix? Ambiguously European? Phoenix doing the Philip Sumer Hoffman with like a weird Balkan accent. I feel like he makes it too strange. Benedict Cumberbatch?

That's not bad, but he's been a bad guy in a couple of movies. Also, I don't need Dr. Strange as... I don't need any Marvel superhero. Liam McGregor? Ewan McGregor? You and McGregor? You and McGregor? His cousin Liam.

How about his brother, Liam? Liam or Ewan McGregor? You and McGregor's good. Somebody like that. I'm just a little more weight. Sean Harris, he's C-plus. Half-ass internet research. There was a whole mustache, C-Ville thing going on.

Yeah, the Justice League, Justice League needed Cavill to come make the movie. Make do some reshoots. Macquarie was like, you can shave his mustache for $3 million. Yeah. Like, I'll allow it. And then they were like, because of scheduling,

it wound up being that they had to blur out his mustache in the Justice League movies. I don't know why McCoy was so set on him having a mustache in this movie. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I liked his facial hair in this.

But Justice League had to then spend all this money to digitally remove his mustache, which is hilarious. I mean, there's a lot of stuff about the Halo jump. I guess the most interesting thing is they used as red weapon

camera with an iMacs lens that they put on one of the stuntmen you can see they have a split screen of the two videos of the movie but then also the other camera filming the guy jumping out so they had a 20 pound camera and it could kind of focus itself but he had to make sure that he kept his helmet focused on cruise as he was falling backwards there's a clip on youtube you can see of cruise practically directing the cameraman mid skydive being like get over here like come under me go over me it's insane simon Pegg said multiple times him and his co-stars thought Cruz was about to die. And he said, it's a daily stress going to work with him because you don't know if you're going

to see him tomorrow. It's the actual quote from Simon Pegg. Five skydyes a day. Cruz drove the BMW and the BMWM-5 that's fucking awesome in this movie and did the thing when it's like he did the 180 where he pulled the emergency breakup and spun the car. He did three takes where he nailed all of them each time. And this goes into the cruise PR where the other stuntmen say, he could have been a great stuntman if he wanted to.

Nobody else could do it. It would have been great. The Rebecca Ferguson was pregnant during this movie. Seven months pregnant by the time they finished. So if you look closely, she's hiding or they'll have her behind stuff. That's it. Uh, just if people are curious, the inspiration for the Paris car chase is this short film called Paris Rendezvous, which came out in the 70s. It's on YouTube. It's like eight minutes long. And it's, you know, obviously a bullet and French connection. Yeah. Inspirations. But this is basically like a first person. So the camera's on the hood of the car or the dash or whatever. And it's a dude driving a Mercedes super fast through Paris. And then he pulls up and picks up a woman. But it's like, it's fucking awesome. Good eight minutes.

Apex Mountain. Mission Impossible? I think one is still probably Apex Mountain. You guys would have to tell me... I think it's still one. Because one set up the franchise, which is a really hard thing to do. Huge. Setting up a franchise is hard. It felt like more of a cultural moment when one came out than when Fallout came out.

That's probably right. Even though it's more successful, I think. But now it just feels like just one of another many action films that come out over here. Cruise, no. Cruise as an insane person, I think this might be as Apex Mountain. What about most insane cruise stories from a movie? You don't think it's the night and day promo trail where he was like riding his motorcycle across seven continents with Cameron Diaz and like showing up and being crazy. I saw that movie.

Also, couch jumping isn't Apex Mountain for crazy crews? That's off camera cruise. I'm talking about like stories about Cruz from a movie. Oh yeah. But they're all fake. What about him on the outside of the building in Ghosts? protocol. Do you think that's more impressive than anything he did in this or no?

I think the skydive is probably still number one, right? I think so. First of the... First wave is pretty crazy that he did that and that he had been basically thinking about doing that. If you had to do one of those two. I thought, didn't they say hang up the helicopter or the hang off the airplane was the single hardest one?

Yeah, and it's also... Because he had like they had to film like three days of takes for it and he was getting hit by stuff in the air. If I had to if I had to do one of those stunts. Yeah, which freaks you out less. Anything with the tall building. I think I'd probably just halo jump.

Yeah. I guess skydiving in general. I don't know if I could ever like do the training for it, but like the idea of hanging off of a building or hanging off of a mountain like honestly terrifies me. You know what's weird? This is kind of dark, but I was never afraid of heights until after 9-11. And it totally fucked with me at that. And now I'm of super afraid of heights.

Are you? Yeah. So how does it manifest itself? Like if you're in a tall building, do you not want to go near the windows? If I go near the window, I feel like a pit my stomach. Have you been to the top of the new World Trade Center? No. But I used to love like stuff like that.

And then afterwards it fucked me up. Interesting. Cavill? I think playing Superman. Conversations change. That's an all-time pivot from you. I think Superman's his apex mountain. I'm out on Cavill.

He played Superman. That's his apex mountain. Nightclub fight scenes? I think Wick. I would say wick. I think it's collateral. Oh, collateral's pretty great. Bathroom fight scenes?

This might be it. This might be the greatest bathroom fights. I think this is the best one. Halo jumps definitely. This is a Godzilla. Helicopter chase scenes, I would say yes. First plot, I'm still slightly partial to, but there was a second helicopter. Paris as a movie location?

No. Tango. Yeah, last tango in Paris is definitely it. The beginning of Rome. Ving Rames, no. Simon Pegg, maybe. But what about when he's... Because he gained steam in each Mission Impossible?

I think he's pretty... I think Sean of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are still as Apex. He made $800 million. He's like the number three star in it. No? I don't think so. Any other Apex for you? Fake Tom Cruise names.

I think Dr. Rob Thorne. Dr. Rob Thorntz. I feel like at the very end, Wes Bentley knows that he's not a doctor. Yeah, you think? All right, great. I'll see you later. Doctor. He puts like an extra little Zing on the last doctor.

I think Wes was probably going up to McCoy. He's like, I got to do something here. You basically got me out here in Kashmir. And all I'm saying is, do you guys know each other? McCory's like, Wes, I did you a fucking favor of putting you in this movie. We could barely get you in short.

Just shut up and deliver the lens. Best racehorse name. What about Apostle? That's good. The Syndicate? The Syndicate? Yeah. I think Syndicate would work.

Can't have a the horse ride. Here comes the syndicate. I don't know. I have a missing plutonium. That's good. Plutonium would be a good horse name. Pickin' Nits. No bruises for anybody after the bathroom fight?

Well, I mean... A little mark? Cruz. Black eye. Ethan Hyman. There's a shot where his wrist would have been shattered into 100 pieces. They're punching through walls in the bathroom. Nothing.

A little mark over the eyebrow? No, he's fine. The 15-minute nuclear bomb countdown at the end lasts for over 22 minutes unscreen. Just FYI. The Halo jump, I just think he crashes through the building. I think it's too close. That's, yeah. I definitely think he dies.

a hundred times in this movie, yeah. I've watched a challenge one of my favorite shows where they'll have, sometimes they have them jump out. You should hit up bananas and tell them you guys need to bring Halo jumping into the... They should just recreate all the stunts from Mission Impossible movies as a season. MTV's the Challenge colon fallout. Well, Jordan on the Challenge, his parachute, like, opened too late, so he landed kind of hard.

And he was like he was down for 25 minutes with EMTs. That's a great idea. They should do like the challenge action movie. season. Well, they could definitely do the halo jump, but I just think he landed so hard. He's down for at least 20 minutes after that. He also has his oxygen cut off like multiple times throughout the life. Did they need to halo jump into that nightclub? I can't remember why. Why did the halo jump? Why don't they just like drive? Like they get into the nightclub really easily. Yeah, I don't know why they needed to be 30,000 feet in the air.

Wait a second. Why did they do that? I had that. There's one line where it's like they'll be tracking us so we have to come from above. But then it's like when they get there, they just change into suits and pretend to be another guy. Yeah, don't they have their wristbands already? Yeah, all they need to do is get into the bathroom. So you're saying he could have just driven up to the... Had a plane go over the thing and just hopped up.

Yeah, I'm with a... What's the Vanessa Kirby's character? Yeah, it's true, like... Atissa? Yeah. Like in fast seven or fast eight, when they have to drive the cars off the plane so that they land on the mountain.

Yeah. That actually makes sense. There's only one way to get on the mountain. It's a ridiculous scene, but it's like, palace are you getting in this mountain. There's guards everywhere, and you kind of have to do that way. Couldn't they have just gone to the rooftop next to the nightclub and just kind of hopped over? This is why fucking Reddit is the best.

Because immediately, why was the halo jump and fallout necessary? Why was it? They need to get their fast and undetected, which means no airport security. That's a reason? Oh my God. That's ridiculous. One more pick and it. His wife got really.

married? Oh my god. The love of his life? Like, what the fuck? This is such a bill take. Love of his life. I just want you need to be Ethan Hahn and I need to be a doctor and she's like, here's my new husband West Bentley. Well, he's out there juggling Vanessa Kirby and Rebecca Ferguson. She's not allowed to be with West Bentley.

Also, there's not a lot going on between the two of them. They seem like best friends more than they are lovers. Yeah, seriously. Well, that's the case with Cruz and Bob's Ghostro. Except Connolly. True. They're shooting lasers out of their eyes and that French cop.

Connolly could have brought in a corpse. The French cop was just like, I need... She'll be in White Lotus season three. That's right. Has he ever had better chemistry with anyone than the French cop? Nicole Kidman. Yeah, true. And Thunder, they've got good chemistry.

I don't know. It bothers me. She's in the movie. It bothers me. They got married. What else do you have for picking hits? Are there diminishing returns on the old switcheroo? He was in a mask.

Oh, he actually works for the other guy. Just kidding. He actually works for you. There are so many of them that it actually starts a time. Take away from the movie. That's a good nitpick. I guess I have this nitpick with every Mission Impossible, but how good could the masks be that I could be seven feet away from you

and not realize you're wearing a mask? I think Mission Impossible takes more liberties in terms of how advanced their tech is than any action movie franchise. It's also... Fast and Furious is close. The masks are the least interesting thing to me, and they're in almost every movie. And you're just like, oh, like, oh, is you had a mask on? It's a cop-out. Yeah.

Nobody likes that. There's no creativity to that. I hope there's no masks in debt record. Okay. I fucking love masks. Like, but they're so unreal. It's so unrealistic.

I know, but I just love, I don't know, I like that they go for it. Well, they never, I also never understood why they can, so they wear the mask

and they can suddenly do the voice? How's that work? It's got voice modulation technology in the thing. It's just funny that in movies when we read about people when they have to wear masks or makeup and it's like they were in the makeup

all day. It was eight hours of makeup to get ready for the role. And then in this movie, it's like they just, it's like they're in a Halloween store. Like, hey, I'm a nuclear fist. I need 20 minutes to like replicate John Mark's face.

There was one point where one of them was holding the wig and you could kind of see it on the side of the frame. And it looks like a $15 like hair piece. Yeah. It's also tough because it's basically, it's just no idea. Scooby-Doo. Yeah. Like it's, I also, speaking of the face stuff,

I don't know if you guys notice this, but do you know when they have Nils Dilbrook in the beginning, this nuclear scientist? do you know what the object of what they need to do is? Unlock his phone. They just need his passcode. They can do all this shit. They can build people's faces and do halo jumps

and track guys with like a biotech going into their neck. It's a six-digit passcode. And they can't break this guy's pass code. So they have to come up with a fake wolf blitzer plot. Why can't you just like punch him in the face ten times and he'll give you the code? Just waterboarding. Like what are we doing? We need to create a fake hospital and hire wolf blitzer.

Yeah. This is why I actually actually. action movies are the best for the rewatchables. They have the best nip picks and the best things complain about. I completely agree. Cut a finger off. He'll tell you what he got it. Yeah. Yeah. Go medieval on his ass.

Get the Denzel from Man on Fire. Yeah, I was going to say, they needed Denzel to come in. What if John Creasy walked in? Creasy. Yeah. Oh my God. Put a bomb up his fucking ass. Give us the fucking code. Sequel, prequel, prestige, TV, I have one more. I'm sorry.

What do you got? I think they could have come up with a better a catchier manifesto title than the destruction of the current world order. That's a pass. If I see that, I'm just like, Great peace requires great suffering. It's like, this is nothing. Close tab.

There's a lot of content out there. Playing that on CNN is not going to do anything. There will be a sequel in 2023. So the answer to whether there should be a sequel for this is already been answered. It's the final two, though. They announced it'll be the end of Ethan Hunt. Well, because Cruz is going to die in the last scene of the last one. He's going to be in outer space, and he's going to go off and try to find Mars.

Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trao, Catherine Hahn, Steve Bouchemy, Sam Jackson, J.T. Walsh, or Philip Baker Hall. I think it would be amazing if Bernthal played the West Bentley part. God damn, Julia! I didn't know you guys curing smallpox! That's more of a Philly accent. I fucked up. But still, Wayne Jenkins instead of West Bentley, 10 times better. Discruntled new husband?

Why is your ex-husband showing up here in fucking cash? Meier. That's way hotter than me. Is this guy really Halo jumping? Just won Oscar, who gets it? The stunt coordinator. Wade.

Wade Eastwood. Wade Eastwood. I hope he won. Who was? Do they give stunt Oscars? I mean, they should. This is how you make the Oscars more fun. Best stunt for Best Stun of the Year.

It would be a fucking awesome award. And I would love to go through the Wikipedia and see what won year after year after year. Now, this can go wrong in the wrong hands as we just saw with the NBA, where they now have a clutch award? Yeah. Most clutch person.

That didn't get named after a guy? It was Jerry West. Oh, okay. Was there apology to him for condoning winning time? Here's the award, the clutch award. Probably in answer to questions.

My big one was, does Cruz want to die? Does he actually want to die? Does he have a death wish? I don't really foresee Tom Cruise ever having like a late period, like Hume Cronin phase. Tom Cruise is just in cocoon three.

It's like Tom Cruise died at age 63. I also don't think he, I don't think he thinks he can die. I think Cruz. That's usually how people die. I'm fairly certain that he's heavily invested in anti-aging and long life. Oh, him, Bezos. If Tom Cruise lived to 132, would you be surprised? No, man.

Him and Bezos and a couple other people, they definitely, they get together once a month to talk about their anti-aging technology. And I could also see him cloning himself. Yeah, anything on the table. Maybe that's why this cruise isn't as good of an actor. I have a possibly, probably unanswerable question. What is it? If you had to choose a city to have a car chase in, what would you choose?

Boston's out. No, Boston can be in. Tight turns there downtown. A lot of one-ways. Yeah. The town kind of did it. Boston's pretty good. I think you want stuff with hills, though.

I think you want, like. San Francisco or something? San Francisco's great, but the town. There's some places in Europe that, you know, are high up, that you can go down and up. And there's what? You want hills and water. Yeah. Yeah.

I think are the two things. You can't do Philly because your car would fall apart because of the potholes. So what's the best American city car chase? I think Chicago is pretty good. Yeah? Yeah. Blues Brothers. I feel like L.A., the PCH would be pretty amazing.

There's just no turns off of it. You would just be chasing each other in the emergency lane. No, but you go P. PCH, take it towards Santa Monica Pier, then head down Venice. Now you're on the one way in Venice, and you're doing this side. It's bumper to bumper traffic everywhere. It's a movie, though. We don't need to know that.

I mean, like, you think Paris, they're flying around on motorcycles three o'clock in the afternoon? I like that. That's a good one to put out for the rewatchables crowd. Where would you want to have your car chase? What is the single best location for car chase? Best double-feature choice with this movie. I mean, I guess... You have to pick Rogue Nation?

Yeah, I mean, I guess, do you helpful? It has... Do you? I mean, Solomon Lane. Can I give you WIC 2? You can. You could also do Top Gun Maverick. I like WIC 2.

WIC 2 is good, because it's... It's the only thing in Mission Impossible is Lane right now. It's the only thing challenging it. Wick 2 is incredible. It is. I don't have to do the re-WIC. I don't think WIC's close to Mission Impossible, personally. No, it's not.

But it's the only movie that's challenging it in terms of stunt coordination with, like, a real movie star action hero. They're getting way too into their sauce with WIC. There's too much like the Continental and the ballerina

and the... This is where CR and I diverge. They're making a spin-off series. This is where I wonder about CR. Do you do wonder about me? The fucking common scene in WIC too

is as good as anything in this movie. I disagree. When they're shooting at each other in the subway, they're doing like that. That's cool.

That whole common 10-minute thing is amazing. You're just a stunt guy. I'm a weird guy. You're like, oh, you just want, you want the roller coaster to go higher each time you're on one. It's like, oh, 20 feet higher this time. The Indian Reds-Zamant-A award for what happened the next day. So I was just like, what happens to Ethan like a week after this?

Like, do they have a wrap-up kind of a what's talk about how it went? And then it's like, Ethan, what are you going to do? I think I'm going to go do a tour of all the Major League Baseball parks. 30 city tour over the next two months. I haven't been in the ringling a while.

Yeah. Yeah, the CIA once again just fired me for some reason so I have a lot of time on my hands. I want to see

Oakland before they shut that down and I'm just going to go through you know. What do you think happens with Eric and Julia

the next day? You think Eric brings that up at dinner? Eric's done. So this guy, Dr. Rob. What was up with him? Why don't you go

fuck your CIA agent? Why don't you save the world with him? You whore. Yeah, he definitely snaps two days later. His two glasses of wine and they break up. There's no question. Never

told me about Ethan? Yeah. You neglected to mention him on your Bumble account. Yeah, did she... We assume she never said anything about Ethan to him, right? No, because it's not Ethan. It's Dr. Rob Thorne. Yeah, she's never like, oh, by the way, my husband used to be in the IMF. What a great

way to lie about your past if you date like some secret agent. Yeah. She'd be like, I couldn't tell you. Yeah. True. She was like, Fate of the World is on the... West Bentley's like, that fucking close talker,

you're married to him? What the hell? Craig, what piece of memorabilia would you want from this movie? You know, there's not a lot of options in this movie.

There's not a lot of memorabilia. Yeah, the plutonium ball, the detonator. Detonator would be kind of cool. I like the car. The BMW 5 would be cool. Be like, because those are like special

souped up cars and be like, what's that car from? Yeah, ever seen a little movie called Mission Impossible Fallout? Can I have the helmet? camera, red weapon camera that waded.

Yeah, give me that. Cavill's mustache hairs? I would go for Cavill's mustache. You don't have anything you'd want? I want the copy of the Odyssey that the guy brings him in the beginning of the movie. Oh, yeah. The self-destruction.

Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, when he's like I am in the store. Yeah, that is good. How about Cruz's shattered ankle? The fucking bone fragment. We should have that in the Natural History Museum. Like, it's like a caveman bone. Why did they think Cruz could make that jump?

Well, he's not supposed to make it. He's supposed to hit the side of the building. So his mistake was he put his foot up. So what's the idea is that there's like padding underneath of that to catch him if he falls? He's, uh, he's strapped into two wires. Oh, he is wired in that way. Yes, he's wired. Okay.

So do you think Cruz that jump, like haunts him that he couldn't pull it off? No, because I think he got the shot. Like, it's like the 2011 finals for LeBron. He would have thought that if they didn't get the shot. Because he stood up on his own and limped off screen, I think he thought, That's the greatest thing I've ever done. But deep down, he missed a shot. He missed a jump.

But he's not supposed to make the jump. Yeah, he's supposed to like just grab on by the edge. But deep down, I think he's like, Paul Newman probably would have made that. I got to work harder. I saw the verdict. There's no way Paul Newman's making any jumps. I think he's the same age that says Paul Newman is in the verdict. I think they're both.

If I had spent two more minutes in my hyperbaric chamber, oh, that's crazy. Unreal. What's the Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson for you guys? I struggled. I struggled with this one to find one. What's the line from the manifesto? With great suffering brings great peace. Yeah, I guess that's it.

My life lesson has to do with Wes Bentley. This random guy comes back and it's super mysterious and he's got some fake job and there's plutonium and helicopters and my wife clearly knows way more what's going on than she let on. I'd have some questions. That's a life lesson? Yeah, my life lesson is, At some point

At some point Stay vigilant Read the tea leaves Oh he's here on vacation I'm actually here on work The second that happened I'm going to happen Yeah

What? Who won the movie? Cruz Yeah Cruz Is this Christopher McCorrey's Apex Mountain? I mean I think this

And Top Gun Maverick And this run that he's on So this would suggest yes I guess Usual suspects He didn't direct Top Gun Maver After that No he wrote it though

Did we do usual suspects, we did, right? We did. Yeah. Two of us. We've done almost 270 movies at this point. I can't even remember the ones. For a second, I thought we had already done fallout.

I actually did too. You've only done the first mission in this now, right? And we'll do three. Yeah. At some point we'll do Rogue Nation. I have some issues with Rogue Nation. Three is good just to talk about Hoffman and to talk about Cruz being like, I want to go toe to toe to with somebody.

Rogue Nation is like a stunt and a half short for me. Yeah, Rogue Nation is the one that basically. it's a lot of... It's like just dark underwater. I don't think it's nearly as fun. When in doubt, go outside. Just get me outside. Get me in locations.

I think we've talked about this a couple of times. I don't have a list in front of me, but do you think that this is up there is Best Action Movie of the Century? Wow. I think it's definitely in the seven or eight movie conversation. I don't think it's in the top of week. I still, as you know, I love Fast Five.

And Wick. Wick 2, I think this is in there. In terms of pure action, it's the most impressive stunts, I think, ever done by a human being in a movie. With the raid ones, the two raid movies are like pretty up there. With the lack of CGI, I think, is what makes it special. We probably didn't, we could have made a bigger deal of that at the top. Right, I guess the pure stunts.

It's not leaning on the fake shit and they're so committed to the authenticity, I think, is really admirable. And I think that's the number one reason people love these movies. Yeah. I mean, it's like, I think it's up there. it's Mad Max Fury Road. Yeah. I think Born Ultimatum.

Yeah. Fast 5 has to be in there. Wick 2. I think the first taken is in there. Because it was so, it was such like a cool movie and it was like a little movie, but at the same time.

I put Dark Night in there. I was going to say. That's a pretty good one. Does that count? To me, that's a comic book movie. Yeah, but all the, all the, the Car Chase stuff there is practical.

Like a lot of it is practical. Dark Night is in a different conversation. of best movies of the century. I almost think it's like a level higher than whatever conversation that is, don't you think? And that's like one of the best five movies of the century. I think that truck flipping over and some of the stuff is like action sequences, you know?

All right. This was produced by Craig, who also hosted. Chris Ryan. Thanks for having me. Good to see you. This is our last episode of 2022. So thanks for all the support. Thanks for all the suggestions.

We get some suggestions. Charlotte Rampling. Thanks to Charlotte Rampling, CRs. You guys are engaged now. Congratulations. Thanks to Craig. Thanks to Isaiah,

who stepped in every once in a while, and we will see you on the rewatchables in 2020.