The Rewatchables - ‘Mr. Mom’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins

Episode Date: October 11, 2019

Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins become stay-at-home podders as they rewatch the 1983 comedy ‘Mr. Mom’ starring Michael Keaton and Teri Garr. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The rewatchables is brought to you by the TV series, Mr. Mom, based on the beloved classic 80s film, the new Voodoo original series, Mr. Mom, tells the story of Greg and Megan Anderson as they navigate family life at modern times. Mr. Mom is a fun, lighthearted look at what it's like to be apparent today and can be enjoyed by the whole family. All the episodes of Mr. Mom now available on Voodoo for free. Watch it today. VUDU.com slash Mr. Mom, VUDU.com slash MRM-M-M-O-M. Amanda Dobbins is here. We're doing a rewatchables about the original Mr. Mom with Michael Keaton, which is a fascinating rewatch. Here we go.

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Michael Keaton and Terry Garg in Mr. Mom, a mother of a comedy. at PG. Hi, Amanda. Hi, Bill. The plot of this movie, an unemployed Detroit engineer becomes a stay-at-home dad and takes care of three young children after his wife lands a job and returns to the advertising business as an executive

at a big advertising agency. It's hard to imagine that this was a groundbreaking premise, but it actually kind of was at 1983. I hadn't seen this before in anything. It's like, wait, the wife's going to work and the dad's going to stay home? I was actually

surprised at how normal it seemed in the context of the movie because it's made in 1983, what we know now about kind of role reversals in the 80s. There are a lot of things still in development, right? In terms of mom's going to work. Dad's staying at home. That was a new concept. Just tapped into it. Yeah. So it's kind of you're going to the original source code. It's like we have this idea of Mr. Mom in our head. That's like a catchphrase, right? But this invented it, essentially. Actually invented it. Yeah.

It is true. So there's some stuff going on here from the 80s that I just as a child of the 80s have to go through. First of all, this was a role reversal movie decade. So it starts the year before with Tootsie, which Terry Gar is also in. She's in Mr. Mom and Tutsi, where Dustin Hoffman plays an actor who can't get a role and decides to dress up as a woman and becomes a soap opera star. So you have that. You've Mr. Mom in 83. you have baby boom in 1987 and three men and a baby in 1987.

Three dads have to take care of a baby. This is going to be hilarious. Not to mention all the Freaky Friday type of stuff that always happens. But this was kind of an era for role reversal. Can I ask you about the baby boom role reversal? Because Baby Boom is one of my favorite movies. And I thought a lot about it in the context of Mr. Mom because Mr. Mom is kind of like the dad figuring out how to be a parent in the modern world of the 80s.

And Baby Boom is about a mom figuring out how to be a mom, a parent, in the modern world of the 80s. But what is the role reversal? In Baby Boom? Yeah. I thought there was. Maybe I'm wrong. No, I think it's just, so she basically, she's, it's Diane Keaton, right? And she's like a-

Well, it's a role reversal. So she's like a professional woman who now has to realize, like, oh. It's like the original can women have it all work-life balance movie. Yeah. Which also, I mean, that was another theme of the 80s, right? Right. That's like a working girl and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So we have like this 10-year stretch.

And I guess we could throw in look who's talking too. It's like, these babies can talk. And they're sarcastic. But this was a move where they just looked at the traditional characters that TV shows and movies had been beating in the ground in the 60s and 70s. And they're like, well, how can we flip this? Right. What if this happens? Right.

And I guess it is the first time the 70s or when like women are actually in the workplace. in dramatic numbers. And so it's kind of, it's the first time that there are enough, there's enough updating of like, quote, traditional social roles that then you start making movies and TV shows examining that change.

And that even going earlier, nine to five was a really big movie when I was a kid. It was probably like 1980. I think Jane Fonda, Dolly Part and Louis Tomlin flipped the workplace on its head. It's kind of an amazing Me Too movie now

because the whole second half of the movie is basically them getting revenge and their Me Too boss, but it's a comedy. Yeah. And it probably hasn't aged that great, but that was going on. But then you also had like Norma Ray and all these different types of things where this was really the 80s kicks this off. Yeah.

I kind of think they've aged pretty well all of the 80s movies because it's like you're looking back and it's what 30, 35, even 40 years ago now. And at least they were asking the questions. The tough thing is kind of when you look at where we are now and it's like, oh, This was a problem back in 1983, and we still haven't totally figured out how to talk about these things. Well, there's one scene in this movie that is a great scene in the 2019 lens. Yeah, but I'm kind of like, well, they were asking the questions. They were engaging with the issues.

So there's many, many, many just hardcore 1980s things about this movie. It starts off saying an Aaron Spelling production. I was like, oh, Aaron Spelling. This was during his height of he had dynasty and a bunch of big hit TV shows, but a few years before 902 and No, and Melrose place and that whole run. Written by John Hughes. Love it.

Which this was the year that he landed two planes, National Lampoon's Vacation, which was honestly one of the biggest comedies of the 80s for me. And one of the ones I probably watched the most. And then this movie in the same year, and this one, they kind of took the script away, which will, or they had a, other people come in and change some stuff.

But the success of this movie leads to him getting... So Mr. Mom made $64 million a lot. Yeah. Universal, who had kind of taken the movie away from him and given the script to other writers to spruce it up and make it whatever they want to be. They're like, oh, crap. They give him a three-pictured deal for $30 million.

The three films. 16 candles, the Breakfast Club, and Weird Science. So basically Mr. Mom is the reason that we have an entire genre of smart teen films. So the question is, could John Hughes have happened anyway? I don't know. Mr. Mom made it happen. And then you go into some, you know, he does some kind of wonderful. Like he is the most influential kind of popcorn teen movie person of the 80s.

I would say he made most of the good movies of the 80s that affected me. And especially Breakfast Club was like the godfather, if you were. 16 in high school in 1985. Yeah, of course. And pretty in pink and Ferris-Belers play off. I mean, he invents the modern teen genre, which again, like we take for granted now and we think that... Ripped off for 35 years. Now Netflix is just

remaking all of those same movies again. They're taking the same plots. Yeah. See, that. This is deep hardcore 80s, but Michael Caten and Terry Gar were two of like the Mount Rushmore Letterman guests. And Letterman is the most influential late night show from 82 to 87 basically. Terry Gar was his number one female guest.

She was on all the time. They had this crazy, flirty relationship. And he did this show once in his office where the big thing at the end was he convinced her to take a shower in his bathroom. Yes. We didn't see anything,

but it was just like, that's how like crazy their relationship was. I read this on Wikipedia. And I was just like, I have some questions. It's not nearly as crazy. as you think it would. It's more like a dare. Like, I dare you to take a shower. We don't see anything. She's in there. We just see the steam coming and her complaining about Dave. Like,

it's fine. It's not bad. So Terry Gar was kind of the Drew Barrymore letterman of the 80s. Well, just in terms of their relationship, because I grew up in the 90s watching Drew Barrymore flirting with him all of the time and going through her Drew Barrymore stuff live on network TV. This was the first time, you know, Carson was huge back then, but this is the first time I ever remember a guest coming on a show where you're just like, why don't you guys just get it over with?

Just go in the back. You guys should just get married. You guys are great together. And then Michael Keaton was the other one. And he had Night Shift in 1982, which is one of my favorite, favorite, favorite 80s movies. Comes a star.

And he would go on Letterman and he would just crush. Absolutely. Him and Tom Hanks, both of them would just crush. So it was weird to see them in this movie and it kind of became like the Letterman baby of a movie.

Right. Whereas like, oh, these two, they're Letterman approved. I'll go see this. I was just surprised more broadly to learn that. This is very early in Michael Keaton's career. Oh, yeah. And this is a lot of ways how we learn about Michael Keaton, which is very funny in retrospect. Well, have you seen Night Shift?

No. Okay. Well, it was a point yet. I was 13 when it came out. So he's in Night Shift. Nobody knows who it is. It's Ron Howard's first movie. Henry Winkler, not as the Fonz, which was a big deal at the time because he had the Fons

Hangover. Fons is like the biggest 70s character. And it's about like these two guys in a morgue who decide to basically, you know, there's, Shelley Longplay is a prostitute who lives. This is a hard move to explain. A prostitute who lives in Henry Winkler's building. And she gets roughed up by, this is really terrible, she gets roughed up by a customer. Henry Linker gets upset. And he's like, how can we provide protection to you?

And they decide to run basically a brothel out of the morgue. Okay. It's an insane premise. brought the latter of him more. And Michael Keaton... I don't know what to say. Michael Keaton plays Billy Blaise Jawsky. And it's honestly one of the funniest characters of the 80s.

And every scene he's in, you should watch it with Zach. He crushes. So it was like a big deal. What's his next movie going to be? Because this is like, this guy's a major star. And he's on Letterman. And it's just like, what's next?

And I'll step on half-festernet research. He turns down Splash to do Mr. Mom. Incredible. And there's this whole Hank's Keaton thing. that we should talk about. Yeah, I'd like to. I have some thoughts on my own about Michael Keaton that I'll save for later. So they're head to, I've talked about this before.

They're head to head to head for 10 years. Okay. She's going back and forth. It's like bird and magic. So Hank sends up winning, obviously, because he has all the Oscars. Then Keaton has a nice comeback. And they've both done great. They're both Hall of Famers.

It's funny, though, Keaton will talk openly about how he turned down splash. There's usually this code with actors. And I've had it happen to me with podcasts. where you're like, what's the biggest movie you've ever turned down? Like, who did it recently? The guy, uh, Sean Penn. When I had him on, I was like, what was the biggest role he turned out? It was like, pulp fiction.

He's like, I don't want to say what the role was. Because there's like this actor code. Mm-hmm. I think it was the Bruce Willis role. But you don't want to say that. You didn't want to call Bruce Willis. Keaton is openly like, I turned down Splash. I was the first choice for Splash.

I turned it down. So I do think it's a good rivalry. Yeah, I also feel like, with all respect to Michael Keaton, who I really enjoy, and I would like to talk about the ways in which I enjoy him later, but he lost, like, conclusively to Tom Hanks. So I think at that point, you're allowed to just say, well, there we go. He lost. It was, I'm telling you, it was neck and neck for 10 years. And there were moments when Keaton had the advantage. A league of their own and Philadelphia.

Yeah, that's true. Philadelphia was like, oh, shit. And then Forrest Gump the next. next janet. I was like, oh my God. Tom Hanks is the most important actor we have. But for 10 years, that night he's run. Okay. So the producer, I had her name. Something Donner. She told Newsweek, Mr. Mom became part of the vernacular. He represented a segment of men who were at home dealing with the kids who up until then really hadn't been heard from. That's what really told me about the power of film because it spoke for a lot

of men. It also helped women because I think that women sometimes, if you're a housewife, you're not really appreciative for what you do, this sort of. have made women feel better about what they did because they knew that men were understanding it. It's a very 1980s representation of what was going on. I mean, I wasn't there. It was interesting watching this because my parents both worked and I was born a year after this movie came out.

So it's kind of like watching my parents a little bit, even though they both worked. But I guess it wasn't there so I don't know that people weren't talking about this. And I find it very hard to believe that the Atlantic wasn't running. Like, what does it mean for the mother and the family? None of that's happening. In 1983, but I guess it's not. TV had a big impact on this. Like the idea of a mom was like Mrs. Brady on the Brady bunch.

Right. Who not only had no job and not only was home all day, but even had Alice the maid with her and it was always unclear what she did other than just kind of not approvingly at the kids. Right. Well, there was six of them. Yeah. But that was kind of the typical 70s mom or like the mom from Happy Days, Mrs. C. Right.

And just like the mom was the stabilizing force who cooked, who always had food ready and ready to put an arm around somebody. Right. And that was it. We didn't really see, you know, we grabbed so much info from TV back then. We didn't have the internet. So all the shows really kind of determined a lot of what we thought about things or the movies. I remember Kramer versus Kramer. So that was 79, which we're doing on a rewatchable.

Yes. Am I allowed to be back on that? You kicked me off briefly because I hadn't seen some movie about divorce with. Oh, yeah. We're still reviewing your resume. I forgot. Okay, I'm pledged to watch it. And I'm also here to talk about parental issues.

Yeah. Cramer versus Cramer, the mom leaves. Okay. Yeah. Bad marriage, moves to the West Coast, gets a job. Mm-hmm. And you're watching this going, you're evil. You left your kid to get a job.

This 40 years ago. But that was kind of the mentality of this. So when they flip it around, it's a little awkward. We can get to some of them. There's the transition of Terrigar just suddenly working, 50 hours a day is a little weird. Right. And they don't examine it.

But can I say one thing I liked about this is that she's not really evil in this movie. No. There isn't any of the, there's like a weird lack of can women have it all in this movie or like guilt or shame or you should be a mom at home. And they have one scene where it's like Halloween scene when he confronts her and it's like, you should feel bad. But that's the only time that there's any guilt from her. And I found it pretty refreshing.

And I was like, this is what I, at 2,000. 2019 working woman need to hear about to see about embracing your career or whatever. I was like, oh, okay, they didn't feel anxious. Well, the other thing, you mentioned 2019, this movie would have probably been eviscerated in different ways for what it didn't have. Oh, yeah. And I think this is one of the reasons I kind of enjoyed rewatched this. It was like, it's fine.

Here's the premise. There's going to be some funny scenes. And then it's going to end happily. We're not trying to revet the wheel here. Yes. Roger Ebert, two out of four. stars described Mr. Mom as a quote, lost opportunity for resorting to clichés rather than finding humor in the characters

as portrayed by the quote, promising and talented cash. I don't know. I think it's at least two and a half stars. And especially like when it came out compared to the other comedies that were out, you know, this was like a very, I would say, for lack of a better word, raunchy kind of era for comedies. This is Porkies and Caddyshack and all those kind of things.

where it's like there had to be nudity in the comedy and just that was kind of what was flying back then. This was a traditional. It was just kind of like, oh, you could actually take your kids to this. I watch this under the prism of being one of the kids when I saw this. Right, right, right. But now I watch it like under the prism of the parents. And I have a lot of questions. Like, why aren't any of the kids in pre-K? Yeah, I have a lot of questions about the parenting. But again, I'm kind of like open to it. There is some sex in it. It is still even relatively adult for the fact that is PG, I believe, is what it's right on? And they made it with the intent of taking the kids.

Let's go into the categories because we can hit some of the stuff. All right. Most rewatchable scene, I like Michael Keaton's characters named Jack. I like when he gets fired and everybody's just trying to strangle each other. It just feels very 80s. Yes. You fired these guys after all they contribute. Jack.

Oh, don't jack me after the support. Jack. Oh, man, after the devotion they gave you, you're fired too. Now you fired me. I'm fine. You sound like. And Jeffrey Tambor and Christopher Lloyd are in that scene. It's just fun to see them together.

It's just a lot of weirdness going on. I don't think anybody would write a scene like that these days. Martin Mull's verse, Martin Mull plays the creepy boss. His first visit, he's Terry Gar's creepy boss. His first visit of the house and Keaton answers the door the chainsaw. This was a famous scene back in the day. Come on over here, Ron. Let me show you what I'm doing.

Take advantage of some of the time off to add a whole. new wing on here and we rip these walls out and, of course, rewire it. Yeah, you're going to make it all 220? Yeah, 220, 221, whatever it takes. Well, you sound like a pretty handy guy. Yeah, well, I sound like the little bit of everything. Ron. I write poetry, a paint, sculpt.

Oh. The chainsaw and the overalls and the backwards and the lion's hat, like the lion's trucker hat. And they're sizing each other up. Right. And this is the scene when I realized that Michael Keaton and Mr. Mom invented like the hipster dad. Yeah. Because I looked at this and I was like, there are a lot of dads in Brooklyn and Silver Lake with this look trying. Maybe the marriage isn't going so well.

Maybe they're trying to pick up a second wife. I was like, oh, I recognize this archetype. I had that actually in what's age the worst too because I'll step on and out. Okay. He grows the beard. Yeah. And it's supposed to be this sign. that his life is kind of falling apart.

But now most of the dads look like that. Right. The beard is in. It's circled back. I don't know what this says about me that as he devolves into just like stay the full decrepit dad. He got sloppy. I was just like, oh, I think Michael Keaton looks really good.

And it's just like that is where we are as a society that what I am conditioned to find attractive and like a 35 year old man is like a beard that hasn't grown in and a flannel shirt that has not been washed in like weeks. And I was like, wow, Michael Keaton, hello. I was watching it going, I was dressed exactly like this on Sunday watching football. It's a great job by him. I didn't have a chainsaw. That scene's really funny.

And that's one of the, it's Michael Keaton. We did a thing at Grantland about him. My friend Daniel interviewed him. We did like a Playboy type interview with him. It was like 12,000 words. And he talked about this scene and how they adlib something about. Martin Moll said the thing about what's the why. in here.

And he's like, 220, 221. And he's like, I was really proud of that. That ad lib was great. But he's really fond of this movie and for whatever he's in that scene.

Next rewatchable scene is when Jack's house attacks the family. Yes. The washer dryer is going nuts. The self-starting vacuum is chasing his kids. And other kids eating chili. It's just like everything's gone wrong. I actually enjoyed that.

You crazy? You fed a baby chili? I had my kids actually this weekend. And it really is like that. when you're just thrown into the fire when you're in charge of everything, when it's a group effort or whoever you have to your house, but then all of a sudden it's just you.

Yeah. And the things you let go about 36 hours in, my son's just microwaving sushi from three days ago. I'm like, go ahead, knock yourself out, man. Put some soy sauce on that. Why is he microwaving? I don't know. I'm making it.

The next one for a rewatchable. I love, this is a very specific 80s thing. the improbable weird race that's really elaborate. That's usually at like a work function or a school where it's like an obstacle course that's elaborately built. Sure. Would take a couple days to build this course. And it's just like, oh, yeah, it's time for the race.

And all the stuff's going on, there's cheering. There's hundreds of people going nuts. Yes. It just would not happen now. It's elaborately built for like a four-year-old, though. All of the equipment is borrowed from a lot. local playground or like the Fisher price set that you set up in your

backyard. It's like, why are you making grown men do this at a work event? And people are going nuts. And the whole concept of letting your boss win because it's better for you professionally. I enjoyed all of that. Keaton throws the waste at the end. The Halloween scene's good.

Two hours notice and you're off to Los Angeles like that. Jack, there is nothing I could do about it. I convinced a man today to spend $11 million dollars on one of my ideas, I got to go. Besides, honey, there's going to be other Halloween, you know?

I know there will be other Halloween, but I'm thinking about this Halloween. I mean, these kids in a couple of years are going to grow this thing. Oh, really? You don't seem to have outgrown it, Jack? Yeah. I mean, I just like the, I like Halloween scenes, I realize, like in movies. Right. And it's the only

time they kind of confront, hey, kind of losing the family here, because we'll get into what stage the worst. She just stops being a mom for like an hour. She's just completely uninterested in anything going on with her kids. They don't examine it in any way, shape, or form.

Like I said, I found it kind of refreshing just from the, I'm not a mother, but I have a lot of friends who are and I consume a lot of content, like aimed at 30-year-old, 30-something-year-old women, which is just about just a constant flow of anxiety about how you're failing because you're not being everything to everyone. And it's really oppressive. It seems like a real bummer. Yeah. So I was like, oh, I kind of like that she doesn't care.

Maybe fewer people should care. I like that her attitude about it. I also like that I'd been waiting for her to kind of be like for him to say, hey, you've three kids. Yeah. It just had to come up at some point. Right. I like that he was dressed up like a prisoner.

And I actually thought he was pretty good in that scene. Not a sold on her, which we'll get to later. And then the ending where just textbook, goofy 80s ending where Angelian's and his room with a drink and he comes out of the shower and then Terry Gar's there. Did they run on a film? It's a real like, okay, guys, we have literally four hours to finish this whole movie. It's abrupt. I also have that in what stage is the worst.

What was the most rewatchable scene for me? For me, it's the utilities. Keaton versus like the washing machine and the vacuum. I realized the ironing of grilled cheese on the ironing board came from this movie as well, which is something that I think. feel has showed up in other movies and is definitely a trope. Have you done it? No, I've never done it.

But only because I don't have an iron. Because that's how fun, because I'm dating the Michael Keaton and like guy with the flannel shirt, so I don't need an iron. Craig, have you done the iron of a grilled cheese? No. So here's the thing. Yeah. I have done the iron of the grilled cheese.

All right. How to go? It's the best way to make a grilled cheese. I believe that. The problem is it ruins the iron. So it's almost like you need the iron to just be your grilled cheese iron, but who would do that? because it's going to get butter and cheese in the little holes,

and then you're ironing a shirt and it's getting grilled cheese stuff on it. Right. But you have to assume that at this point in time, a specific grilled cheese dedicated iron is cheaper than like a pinini grill or whatever they're selling now in order to make a grilled cheese. To go ahead. That's what I'm saying. The lesson from this is they should make a grilled cheese iron because it's a really wonderful way

to have a grilled cheese. Let's talk about the Mr. Mom TV show on Voodoo. Family, it's a full-time job. The new Voodoo original series, Mr. Mom, follows the Andersons as they navigate family life in modern times. Based on the movie we are talking about right now, tells the story of Greg and Megan Anderson as they tackle everyday issues that arise within the family and work as a team to overcome the unexpected challenges of raising kids. There are challenges. They're challenges every day. Yeah.

Like yesterday, I came home and my wife was just like, I hate our daughter. No. And I'm like, what happened? And she's like, nothing specific. There's an everyday challenge. So in a modern day twist in this show, Greg quits work, take care of the kids, must juggle his parenting duties while launching his startup called pizza mail. Good idea for a startup. Meanwhile, former stay-at-home mom, Megan lands her dream job, must navigate a new type of work environment tailored for millennials.

kind of know how complicated that is firsthand. Mr. Mom is a slice of life. Look at what it's like to be apparent today. Can be enjoyed by the whole family. Funny, lighthearted comedy. Perfect parents and children's to watch together. I made my son watch the first episode with me. The episodes are short, which I kind of like.

That's like 12 minutes. Great stuff. Yeah, you can bang them out. It's almost like a giant movie that they cut into shorter segments. I like the style of it. And obviously, I like anything. where I can watch parents struggling to deal with their weird behavior of their kids. Episodes are 11 minutes long.

You can easily binge the whole thing. Go to voodoo.com slash Mr. Mom. All the episodes of Mr. Mom now available on Voodoo for free. V-U-D-U.com slash M-R-M-O-M. All right, what stage is the best? Overmatched dad trying to handle multiple kids at home. I just always enjoy it. Yeah.

I always enjoy it. I know it's probably 2019, not as whatever, but it's just a good gimmick. It's like, oh, my God, how does the washing machine work? Whoever's doing that, I enjoy it. The thing I actually liked about this is that it doesn't treat it as a huge novelty that it's a man at home. They're just kind of like, well, you've got to stay at home. It's more like he's a moron at home.

Yeah, exactly. And there are the mean, judgy moms, which there are still are in 2019. If you've ever been on a mommy board, which I have vicariously. Yeah. Nightmare situation. But it's just he's outmatched. And they don't spend a ton of time being like, can you believe that a man would stay at home?

No, not enough. So I credit them for that. I also liked another What Stage the Best for me is he makes friends with some of the other moms. They're actually like real friends. They're playing poker. They take him to a male strip joint at one point. And I like the group of friends. I thought Ian Gillian was really good in this movie.

I have her as What's Stage the Best too. She was in a show called It's a Living. This was back in the day When I watched every single sitcom That was on TV Because we only had like four channels It was a show about a bunch I think it was a bunch of waitresses

At a club Trying to make it Oh boy And they all had dreams But it was a sitcom And she was like the breakout star of it She And I think she had a dance background

So she was like famous that You know Like nobody Craig's age Would probably know who that is But she didn't kind of have a moment And she's good in this She's got the right level of You know, she's the horny

divorce friend who's checking out Michael Keaton the whole movie. But she's, there's something likable about her. She's in on the joke. Yeah. Yeah. You seem less like you liked her than I did.

Well, I liked her. That character to me, we'll talk about it. I can't defend the character. Well, I'm just kind of like, I don't know if I needed like that love, but we'll talk about it. But she's good.

Yeah. She's pretty horned up. Yeah. Keaton watching soap operas? Great stuff. Is both the what's age the best and age the worst? Because I watched General Hospital during this era. This is what was on during the day.

We didn't have the internet. Yeah. We had 10 channels. It's like, all right, what's your soap opera? No, I mean,

I remember staying home from sick and you just wanted to make sure you watch prices right because otherwise it was soap operas. Game shows and soap operas. So it starts out, he makes fun of it. And then within five minutes,

he's yelling at somebody because whatever. Another, what's age the best. I just always like Rocky training music montages. Yeah, I was going to say, the pop culture references in this have aged really well. It's Rocky Jaws, and they do like a fake chariots of fire during the race that you were talking about.

And normally when you do really timely pop culture references in a movie or a TV show or a book, 30 years later, it's like, what are you talking about? They date it instantly. Well, that's Wayne's World is a great example of that. They do, especially Wayne's World too. Yeah. It's a lot of like very air-specific pop culture stuff that somebody like Craig now would be like, I don't get that. But they picked really well. You know all of these.

They did. All time was stuff. Yeah. I kind of like the tuna commercial, the tuna with a heart. Very 80s, but I thought it was smart. That's one of the things I have done. Like the idea that brands have to have a heart is like very, very of the moment. Every single brand on Twitter is like, here's what we can do for you to make you feel better about yourself.

And they have that in the commercial instantly. This was a very 80s movie TV theme of how do we connect to the public, oh, by being human beings like they are. And it just felt very 1983 to me, but it's aged nicely because I think brands are thinking about this now. You can see it every day on Twitter. The ridiculous ending. You think that's aged well? Here's what's aged the best about it. For whatever reason in the 80s, it was like, okay, we've said all we had to do.

Let's go. and it just abruptly ends. This would never happen now, but I actually kind of miss this era where they were like, should we have a better ending? Nah, just end it.

It's not like they figured out how to do a better ending in comedy. They always tack on four more scenes and you're like, I get it, I get it. Let's go, let's go. So I agree with you,

the brevity, that like, okay, we've tied this up, let's go. They just wouldn't do it this way now, but I kind of missed the era of, we said everything we had to say. Let's get out of here. Yeah.

Because night shift was like that too. Night shift ends. I won't spoil it because I really want you to watch what's exactly right now. I'm going to text you like once every two days so you watch it. It ends abruptly, but it's another one where it's like, yeah, she probably have ended right there. And that said, I'm glad you got out.

What's age the best for you? Wait, I have two more. Okay, go. This is a controversial one. I'd love your take on it as a person who actually knows, has experience with this. Yeah. Parenting seems pretty good to me in this. Yeah.

There's no helicopter freaking out stuff. They kind of treat the kids independently. They can make their own lunch. He gives that nice speech about you got to give up your blanket. You just have to give it up. None of them cry. None of them are annoying. None of them are punching each other.

You're right. It's a very nice, clean family. I thought that that was inspiring. Also, this movie just kind of accepts on face value that staying home with the kids is like a full-time job and very hard work. That's pretty good. Also true. Yeah. Yeah.

Not a better laughs. Relatively progressive for 1983. I left out. Martin Mull, Jeffrey Tambor, and Christopher Lloyd. Yeah, that's true. Pretty good in Trioka. Yes. For me, what's age the best is Keaton watching soap operas.

I just really enjoyed it. I'm going off the grid. What stage the best for you? Well, I would have to say, I think just the parenting, the basic idea of... 1980s parenting. 1980s parenting seems pretty great. Not having done it now, but I'm just like, this seems normal. It seems like you guys have a handle on things.

That's maybe not what I expected when I sat down to watch. watch Mr. Mom from 1983, that it would be like soothing. You didn't miss peanut allergies, ADD medication and therapists. I mean, the fact that I don't have kids and I know so much about all of this stuff. Yeah. It's just, it's, that's a problem. You know, we've let it get too big. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. So good job, Mr. Mom. What's age the worst? We'll save the big one for last. Okay. So the trumpet heavy theme song at the beginning is, very 81, 82, 83 where they're just like,

hey, we need a theme song. My friend Bob, he plays the trumpet. He'll whip up something. It would just be totally different. I don't know what they would do, but it wouldn't be as bad. But it's very 83 specific. Private planes in 1983?

What was up with that private plane they were on? I have no idea. Were they like that back then? I was confused. I guess so. And like fur walls? It could. I mean, planes, I didn't fly a plane.

in 1983 because I wasn't around for that. But I have been watching a lot of retro shows where the first class cabins of commercial airlines are just so much nicer. Yeah. So it could have been that. I thought it was a private though. There's just, there was only 10 people on it.

Or maybe it was the upstairs out of it. I was confused about it. All right. So we talked about this already. But the beard as a sloppy, my life is falling apart look that has now just become the actual look for lots of people. It's each of the worst. also aged the best, I guess.

I'm saying this as a movie representation of things are now going badly for this person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because things are just going great for Michael Peter. It's aged terribly. Yeah. Now I say it, I'm like, ah, kind of like the beard. Yeah. Maybe put a baseball hat on and really go there.

Yeah. The early 80s punk babysitter was a very 81, 82, 83. The babysitter showing up with crazy makeup and purple hair. That's true. The kids' room has posters of Rocky 3, which I was fine with. Okay. And Eric Hippel. I don't know who that is.

I don't know who that is. So he was a really, really mediocre Lions quarterback in like 1982 and 83. It could not be a more obscure sports poster and it could not have aged worse. It's entirely the worst age, the worst thing that's ever been in any rewatchables. Can I as a friend have a little context, were the Lions good in 82? No, their lines were not good. Okay. Air Kippel was not good.

All right, but so they're based in Detroit. And in the 82, 83, so they're trying to do some local thing. And I assume in the early 80s that you were rooting for the local team instead of picking whatever small, cool market. Made sense on the wall. I'm just saying the concept of an Eric Kippel poster. All right. Okay.

Were you dating Zach when Ty Depperman was the Eagles quarterback? I could have been and I still wouldn't know. The equivalent of that. The ending, which I had in With Sage the Best, is also a what's age the worst because it's like, hey, the movie's over. Right.

Go, leave. Here are the credits. You have to go now. It's like, wait, okay. And then do you have any of the what's age is worse before we get to the what's age the worst of this? No, I have one which is just like,

I think this movie handles a lot of the social agenda stuff pretty well. But the idea that a dad would know how to do nothing is just different now. Like, you know how to do things. I believe it. you. Like maybe you don't know how to do everything. I know how to do laundry. Right. That's what I'm saying. You probably at least know how to plug in a vacuum, right? True. Yeah. Yeah. I got that. I think that you have a basic understanding of how things in your house work. Great. And I think most men do at this point. Which is not to say that it's like, I don't want to accuse the movie of anything. I just think it's different now that men have been worked into society a little bit more. This was an 80s trope. let's exaggerate everything. Yeah.

So really congratulations to you for knowing how to do laundry. All right, we got to do it. The B-2 scene. Yeah. In the 2019 Harvey Weinstein reading 68 stories about this behavior of the hotel room and ordering food and hey, blah, blah, blah. It's kind of amazing how she handles it. Yes.

And I mean this positively where she reads the room, understands what's going on, tells him to leave. Right. He doesn't want to leave. And she just punches him in the face. It basically knocks him out. Yeah. And then it was like just goes, going to go tell the husband about it.

And it's like, yeah. So I'm my creepy boss and I punched him in the face and that was it. Also very 80s. Yes. I would say it hasn't probably aged that well. I found it kind of fascinating because, you know, it's not like Harvey Weinstein invented sexual harassment and sexual assault. And I think in the 80s especially, it's the first time that women are really,

in the workplace and it integrated in a way and actually in positions of power. So of course it happened all the time. And there's kind of just a she knows instantly what's happening. As you said, there's like a run of the mill nature to it of just being like, I'm stopping this right now. But they set it up every scene that they're in the movie together. You're like, well, this is headed to this specific place that's happening. I think the thing that hasn't aged that well is like you don't really need this plot.

And you don't also really need the Joan being really into this. dad. I suppose it would be an issue, but that like the ultimate climax of the movie is them battling off various people who are interested in them, as opposed to them fighting about like the fact that they don't share parenting duties or whatever. I think that would be the conflict in 2019. I look at it, you take this range from 76 to 83 with TV and movies, pre-Aids. And most of the plots are just everybody's trying to fuck everybody else. And even when you have a comedy like this where it would seem like, boy, that's weird. They have multiple plots where somebody's trying to fuck the dad or the mom.

Yeah. It's thrown in there. Like they're not even thinking about it. Yeah. You know? And I think even if they make this movie 10 years later, they probably reexamine some of the plots. But I do think like, you know, unfortunately and fortunately in some cases, but unfortunately, too, most people met at work in 1983. So that was like to.

My parents did. To not explore the whole, oh, my boss is. hitting on me thing. It was just like a huge factor of life in 1983. So as soon as he's sizing her up, it's like, oh yeah, that's, this is realistic. I think if you couldn't do this now, which is why we're putting in what stage the worst. Right.

It would just be handled very differently. I think what's interesting and also, I guess, kind of depressing, if you really think through it, is that the character knows exactly what to do. It's kind of like, oh, okay. It's depressing and impressive. Yeah. Because she navigates it. It's almost like a quarterback.

The blitz is coming. It's like, oh, my check down black girl, I'll just throw it to this side. Right. She's like, oh, I know what this guy's up to. I'm going to tell him to leave. Oh, he's not going to leave? I'm going to punch him in the face. Right.

And then the seat ends. It's kind of unexamined, which is I guess that, yeah, it's, which, and I do think it's impressive. And I'm like, oh, it would be nice if you just didn't have to, if it, you didn't even worry about it. But it is also, it just does, it's not how it works anymore. Again, coming off 9 to 5, which was one of the biggest hits of 1980, in the second part of the movie is them torturing their boss

who kept trying to have sex with dog pardon. Weird times, the 80s. What's age the worst would be that? Casting what ifs. They considered Chevy Chase, Michael Douglas, Steve Martin, and John Travolta. John Travolta just thrown into all of these movies. I like where they ended up.

They considered Karen Allen, Jane Curtin, Farrah Fawcett, and Sally Field for the role of Carolyn Ford Ultimate went to Terry Gar, who was going to be coming up in Nipicks. Ron Howard turned this down to direct splash. So Splash is just basically the competition for this movie for some reason, even though Splash is Tom Hanks dating a mermaid.

Best that guy or girl, a.k.a. the Joey Pance Award. I'm giving it to Merriam Flynn. Okay. Who is Eddie's wife in vacation. Okay. You see her, you know, her like, oh, that lady. She's that lady.

Okay. Saul Rubenek, they knew a word for most overacting. I guess every Martin Mollstein. Yeah. He's really dialed up the whole time. He's just like, I'm a horny and redeeming boss. Right. And eventually this is leading to me getting punched at the end of this movie.

At least he's committing. Yeah, he's in. He dialed it up. Dionne Waiters Award best he check, Angelian. I was going to give it to the kids. Which one? I like the one with the blanket. I'll give it to that kid.

I also like the elder kid is just there to do the one-liner is about how the dad doesn't know anything. That's pretty enjoyable. Let's give it to him. If you could recast any part, what would you recast? All right. Here's where I got to do my Terrigar thing. Yeah. She's not good.

She's just not a good, not really a good actress, unfortunately. Oh, dear. Yeah. She's not good. This is actually a really interesting part in the right hands. Yeah. And she's not interested in exploring really any part of it. Well, the only thing I would say in Terrigar's defense is that it's like sort of an interesting plot,

but they don't give. There's not a ton of material in terms of exploring what's going on. But could there be, though? There could be. If she was, all right, let's say she played the part a little sexier. Mm-hmm. And it would be like, well, maybe you should dial it back. Or if you played it like she was more momish.

Right. Like, oh, I don't even know how to describe her in this movie. She's not really a mom. Yeah. She kind of throws away the kids for an hour. We don't even see her take interest at all. And the kids are like, how's little Bobby doing or anything like that?

She just kind of shows up home all frazzled, doesn't even ask any questions about them. Doesn't seem to be that interested in how her husband's doing until he gains weight. And then she just throws darts at him. Right. I don't really understand what's going on with her in this movie. Or why I'm supposed to...

How about this? Why am I supposed to like her? What's likable about her? Yeah, this was so interesting. And I, to watch, with my brain, my millennial brain, where, you know, I've been trained my entire life that, you know, women can have jobs too and to be ambitious. No, to, to be ambitious, to be ambitious, to, you know, go forth in the world. And so I'm like, well, she should get on the plane to go make

her presentation. She did convince that guy to spend $12 million. Like, what, you know, why doesn't he understand that? But that's brainwashing of its own. That's like a certain set of priorities in my head. So I think you're supposed to root for her because she's a, you know, ambitious. She's ambitious or because she also is taking care of the family. That's the whole other thing. They set up the whole economic. There's a recession and he's laid off and

there's just a total shift in their family life. And then it's like they're fine. Not a big deal at all. Yeah, they both. They both like that. But here's the thing though, if she's ambitious, why doesn't she make that clear in the first hour of the movie? I agree with you. She's stumbling

into all these things like, oh, I got a job. Oh, now I'm on a playing, this is weird, and it's like, I want her to be like more cunning or something. No, I agree with you. It's totally undercooked. And I think they both don't actually show that, you know, script-wise, they don't give her the scenes to do that. And her performance is not really there. I agree that she and Michael Keaton have no chemistry. At all. They just don't develop that relationship. He has more chemistry with Angelian. And that is the interesting part of this movie, right? In terms of what happens to these people when they switch roles. It's literally a role reversal,

except it's like they don't exist to each other, so nothing really happens. I had trouble even thinking that she was going to be like really the successful it works because it just seemed to me in the whole movie, like she's like a clueless dip shit. Yes. And even... I mean, this is the thing she took two years. She has two years of advertising experience, she says, and then she stays home to take care of the kids, which is a full-time job.

But then she goes back and is suddenly an executive. I'm like, I would like to know how this advertising agent works. Like a high-powered executive. Yeah, this is not my understanding. of what happens to the women in the workplace after they have kids. But apparently the advertising agency doesn't really care. I just didn't buy it. So who would I cast instead of her?

Mm-hmm. Michelle Pfeiffer. Of course. Yeah. My hero, my queen. Yeah, but that just really changes the whole idea. Yeah, it sure does. It makes it interesting.

It really does. But then it just changes the movie. Michael Keaton's smoking hot wife is now going to be working with this creep. Now I'm really invested. But then you have to. You have to recast the creep because you can't even believe that he's a threat to Michelle Pfeiffer. True. She's just on a whole other level.

It's got to be like Richard Gear. Yes. That's a more interesting movie. I think it's totally. Listen, there are like five different versions of this movie that are more interesting and complicated. And I think that it end with Michelle Pfeiffer as the mom. Definitely just leaving the family or having an affair or being like really mean to the husband because he just sits around watching. take soap operas all day.

And you get into the fights. What about like he calls and Martin Moll answers? Yeah. And he's like devastated. It's in front of like his friend and their kids and all that stuff. And then that's not really resolved either until she just kind of shows up at the end. I feel like he would have been much better about that. Right.

Why did a guy answer your phone in a hotel room? Also she walks in her own bedroom and Joan is just like lying on the bed. Yeah, that's a tough one. She's just like, oh, okay. I'll take your word for it. Joan, what are you doing here? That's not okay. Michelle Pfeiffer, the queen of the 80s and the 90s and the early 2000s.

By the way, she's been on a press tour for Maleficent 2, I believe, looks fantastic. She's going to look great for her whole life. Yeah. She's a national treasure. I agree with you. Look, there's a reason Terry Gar's career never really exploded as the 80s went on. I will say this, though. I thought she's good in Young Frankenstein.

She's really good in Tootsie. And I guess that's what's frustrating for me is in this movie, she's not good. And in Tootsie, she's great. And I don't know why she couldn't have been Tootsie Terrigar and pulled that into this movie and at least created a character. Tootsie Terrigar is a character. This is, what's the character? How would you even describe this character? I don't know how to describe it.

It's a sitcom mom. It's a sitcom mom. You're right. And that's, and they are kind of. going to that for an extent. They give Michael Keaton the fun things to do. Can I give you one more recasting idea? Sure.

What if Meryl Streep's in this movie? Oh, my God. We're just working it all out in real time. Again, a different movie. I'm worried that Meryl Streep would turn into the full, like, the guilt, the guilt of motherhood. You know, Merrill brings a lot of guilt and shame for herself and others wherever she goes. And I think Meryl is one of the great actresses of our time.

But like I said, what I was. fun part for her, though, because she didn't really do parts like this in the 80s. She's doing weighty movies, you know? That's true. Because she'd just done like a fun comedy. I don't know. Maybe, but I think she can't do this without one scene where she starts crying because she, like, missed Bobby's violin recital or whatever.

I don't even know what the kid's. I don't even know. There should have been one scene. That's the one thing where I'm just like, no crying about violin recitals. But that's how I felt like when I was on the road at the NBA playoffs for four weeks and I missed like seven soccer. games and a graduation thing. That movie doesn't, just as a parent, that doesn't tap into that.

Like, I had these kids and now I'm not with them at all, and she's fine with it. Yeah, and it's a kid. I think it's true to my mother, who's a very successful lawyer at this time and traveled a lot. And I just, I remember being sad. Your kids miss you. And I think my mother felt very guilty about it. And that's because she actually was a good mother and cared about her children.

Terry Gar does not seem to care about her kids out of. This character does not care about her children. Because I think that I, the reason that I, the reason I brought up the hospital. Halloween scene is because I really identified with it. Because to me, Halloween is like the best day other than birthday parties for your kids, right? And when you're a parent, it's so much fun to have like a two-year-old or a three-year-old when you can actually take them trick-or-treating for the first time. And the joy, it's like that day and Christmas. And all those kids are right in the Halloween zone and like the mom doesn't care.

Right. So that makes me just not trust her because I don't trust any parent who doesn't recognize that, like mom or dad. That's true. If you're like, I don't, my kids love of Halloween, it means nothing to me. I'm like, well, I don't know if you should be a parent. I agree with you, except the point that she makes of she just convinced this guy to spend $12 million on her idea and she's got to be there for it. She does have to be there for it. All right.

That's got through your job. Feel bad about it. You're right. You're right. Come on, Terry Gar. You're right. Half-ass internet research. A couple things.

Well, working in Motown Productions, producer Laura Shuler. honor. That was the name I could remember for her. She read an article National Lampoon written by John Hughes, kept in touch with them. They had a meeting. Hughes told her about a disastrous experience he had looking after his two children in the absence of his wife. Schuller found it hilarious. They started working on the script and that's how it happened. Hughes had a deal with Aaron Spelling for TV, brought him in as a producer. Universal dumped him because he worked in Chicago. They wanted him in LA. Brought in all these other people. Apparently his script was better. I believe that. I would have met. I would have met.

I imagine that's true, considering it's John Hughes. Aaron Spelling said he wanted to make the movie because I couldn't find a film that was suitable to take my kids to, so we made one. Don't know if that's true. All I know is his kids were cut out of his estate, so I'm not sure how much you cared about his kids. That's all I got. Apex Mountain. Terry Gar, I guess, even though she's not good in this movie, but this Tootsie, Mr. Mom combo, Letterman. This is like the apex of Terry Gar.

Okay. Keaton, no. No. Martin Moe, probably not. John Hughes, no. John Hughes, no. The concept of a Mr. Mom, probably this is the apex. Yeah.

Because they created it? That's all I got. Detroit? Detroit has a movie city? No. Because Detroit also had gung-ho. I don't think this is the- Beverly Hills cop a year later.

Things are happening in Detroit. All right. That's all I got. Pickinits. I wrote down, does anyone care less about her kids than Terry Gar? I already covered this. I mean, she could have come back and there would have been two kids instead of three and she might not have noticed for like a day and a half.

Right. Probably. Where's little Bobby? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's gone. He's kidnapped. It's all the times in movies from the 80.

Even in this movie, my hookyton just loses all of his kids in the grocery store. Yeah, that's realistic. Yeah, that's realistic. Have you lost both children in a grocery store? My wife in 2012 in London lost Ben at a giant park. Oh, no. And we didn't know where we rehearsed for 11 minutes. Oh, no.

Yeah, kids can, kids are like, they're like dogs. They'll just run off and they're way faster and think they are and they're just gone. You look over and you thought they were here and they're there. Okay. So that actually thought that was realistic. Okay. But it's also, that's it. Now I have to go back to Home Alone, the most controversial.

Well, that is ridiculous. But okay. But I'm just saying that's ridiculous. They don't get on a plane without your kid. They did this. When there were a lot of kids in the mix, you know, people were not attached at the hip to their children the way they are now. I'm not saying she's a terrible

mom. I'm saying she's a terrible parent. Okay. I think dad or mom, her lack of interest in her own children is kind of startling. It's like, congratulations. You got a job. That doesn't mean you can't, can you read a bedtime story to one of your kids once? What are you doing?

The schooner tuna ad that they end up with that they show on TV is really terrible. Yes, it is. I don't know why they didn't try to make that like 3% better. My fellow Americans, I am Howard Humphrey, president of Schooner Tuna. All of us here at Schooner Tuna sympathize with those of you hit so hard by these trying economic times. In order to help you, we are reducing the price of Schooner Tuna by 50 cents a can. When this crisis is over, we will go back to our regular prices. Until then, remember, we're all in this together.

Schooner Tuna, the Tuna with the Hark. Again, I think they ran out of time. They ran out of time. And also, I mean, it gets the point across. The guy who directed this, I think his name was Stan Dragatti, who's claimed to famous, he was married to Cheryl Teeks, which was a big thing to, that was a big title to have in the 70s and 80s. This was, he made seven movies, and this was probably the only one that did really well.

Okay. But he made, she's out of control in 1989, which is in the. running for worst 80s movies. Oh, wow. You seen that one? No. Tony Danza's a dad. His daughter turns 15 and all of a sudden she's hot and there's dates coming and she's

out of control. Oh, no. And it's Tony Danza trying to. It's awful. You would hate it. Oh, it's the worst. Any other picket nits that we haven't done already? Their house is so dirty.

Yeah, it's disgusting. It's disgusting. And you said that, you know, Terry Gar would at some point notice that one of, wouldn't notice that her kids are missing. That might be true. But she would notice how dirty this dumb house is. It would bother her. It's disgusting.

It's bad. Okay. That's it. The other thing is that like the kids seem to have an advance understanding of their parents' employment status, which I just don't really think kids care that much. Next category. Could this be remade as a 10 episode Netflix show? Well, it's been remade as a 10 episode voodoo show.

So that one is a yes. Unanswerable questions. I don't know how much we want to litigate this movie, but. Keaton gets his job back at the end with the other two guys. Jeffrey Tambor, it turned out he was fudging some numbers and then brings them back, but he somehow doesn't get fired. None of that makes any sense. It's incoherent.

When they pull Keaton back in and... You would think he would be like, I'm in, but Jeffrey Tambor has to be out. Right. And they don't even seem to understand the cause and effect of sales are down. But after he left, after Keaton left, but Jeffer Tamber was like, I tried to cover for you. It makes no sense. It's incoherent.

Yeah. Jeffrey Tambor for seven straight years was this exact character and everything he was in. And was, he was Three's Company, the Ropers. And he picked five movies from this era. He's always just this guy. And it's amazing to me that he became Jeffrey Tambor. Yeah. I remember when they hired him as Hank for Larry Sanders.

And it was like, oh, my God, that guy? Because he was just kind of this guy on Three's Company. Yeah. The sitcoms back then, they would just bring you back and now you're a lawyer. And then eight episodes later, it's like, hey, it's Jeffrey Thamberg and he's now a doctor. And it's like, there's no correlation to the past. That's all I have for an answerable questions. Who won the movie?

Not Terry Gar. I would say Michael Keating won the movie. I don't think that's a controversial take. No, I agree with you. He's very likable in this. He's really likable. And you escape kind of, I don't think it's a controversial premise, but it could go wrong. Oh, yeah.

And he just, he skates through it with total charm. I will say, I miss not in 2019 not having a version of what Michael Keaton is during this era of movies of Night Shift and Mr. Mom. Like this kind of young guy in his 20s, late 20s, funny, likable. Approachable. Unpredictable. I don't know. I don't know. Who is this?

now? Who is Michael Keaton now? I don't feel like we have that person. I think Chris Evans tried to be this person, but he's not funny. He's not funny and he's also too obviously hot. Yeah. Also, that's the other thing. It's just like you look at Chris Evans and you just like look at what he looks like. So who is it then? And he's a little bit of a jerk too. I don't know if we have one because we don't have it's so, he's so normal Michael Keaton is for lack of a better word. He is like very handsome, but in a way that is approachable. Attainably handsome. Yeah, like you could see someone who looks like him on the street.

He's like really confident and just not a jerk and not edgy in any sort of way. And I feel like at this point to be famous. And then you have to have a thing, whether it's like you're like edgy or you're like really hyper funny or you're strong or you're the smart guy or something. You can't just be the every man, right? And that's why Michael Heaton and Tom Hanks were in the running together for so long because they are both kind of like every man. I don't know who that is, though. Yeah, we don't really have one.

We've had a lot of people try. Yeah. So it's hard, hard to sell that one. All right, that was Mr. Mom. I do think this is a fascinating rewatch. It really is. Out of all the 80s, I mean, there's a couple other 80s movies we could do. I think 9 to 5 would be a fun one to do at some point.

There's some from this air. or that 30 years, 35 years later, it's worth watching. Baby Boom is a really good double header with this one. Because it's like that that's the woman's version. Basically, an interesting movie would be the Diane Keaton character from Baby Boom and Michael Keaton's character from Mr. Mom. You love Diane Keaton and you hate her and Godfather won. I really, really think that I hate her in both, Bill.

I think she's completely miscast. I do not understand. I really honestly think that's the hottest take for down the road. That she wandered onto the wrong set. And then they were like just say abortion, like 15 times really loudly. She seemed upset. Never heard that word before. But I think she's great in Baby Vove.

You like her in a bunch of movies. I like all the Nancy Myers movie. Baby movies run by Nancy Myers. Nancy Myers's proxy. Exactly. Yeah. I like Diane Keaton too. I agree that she is not good in Godfather.

Thank you. All right. You can check out Mr. Mom, the TV series, Voodoo's first original series based on the beloved 80s class that we just talked about, follows the Anderson family as to navigate family life in modern times, work together to overcome the unexpected twists of raising kids, fun, lighthearted, perfect for both parents and children alike. Watch the first season of Mr. Mom for free today at voodoo.com

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