The Rewatchables - ‘National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan have a good old-fashioned Christmas with the Griswolds as they rewatch ‘National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation,' starring Chevy... Chase, Beverly D’Angelo, and Randy Quaid. Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:44 family Christmas tree deck the halls as you desire hope you not getting sap all over your sweater Clark white cat nibbling on a wire
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Starting point is 00:04:05 National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, rated Fiji 13. Starts Friday, December 1st at a theater near you. All right, see our favorite Christmas movie. Is this it? Well, when I'm talking to you, I just never know what we define as a Christmas movie, but this is very high up there. That's why I start with a dig. It's the holidays.
Starting point is 00:04:27 It's diehard is my favorite Christmas movie. That's not a Christmas movie. There we just stand. It's ridiculous. Get it rolling. That's ridiculous. Loubercate the pot. Do you think it's a Christmas movie Die Hard?
Starting point is 00:04:36 No. Sean? Yeah, of course it is. We did this. Dale me. That's right. So what's your actual Christmas movie favorite? Home Alone is my favorite Christmas movie, and I'm staring you right in the eyes.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Just keep it moving. That's fine. Yeah. Mount Rushmore, at least. Oh, for Christmas vacation. This Die Hard, Home Alone, and Four Christmases. What do you got, Sean? I mean, I have to say it's a wonderful life, right?
Starting point is 00:05:00 That's my cliche, you know, movie from the 40s and. I do love this movie. I grew up on Home Alone. Yeah. I was eight years old that Home Alone came out. So you can imagine the impact it had on me. I was like, I am Kevin McAllister.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah. That's a huge one for me. And those come back to back with the same writer. What do you have, Van? This is my favorite Christmas movie. I'm actually going to ask a question about It's a Wonderful Life in this podcast, which just dawned on me a couple of days. This is my favorite Christmas movie.
Starting point is 00:05:27 There's really nothing that's a close second. My favorite bad Christmas movie, do you guys remember surviving Christmas? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love that movie. I think that's a good one. It's not bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:37 So, like, that's one that I watch all the time, but this is my favorite one. I think I like all Christmas movies to some degree. I even watch the Heather Graham Christmas movie. I think it was on Netflix with my wife. What was it that appealed to you about that one? Jason. Well, it was good to check in with Heather. You know, we have a long history together.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Have you seen 12 dates of Christmas with Amy Smart and Mark Paul Gossler? I haven't, but it's on my agenda right now. Check it out. How is it? You know what? It's not bad. It's not bad. All the holiday movies, first of all,
Starting point is 00:06:05 makes you feel like, oh, it's officially, like, the first thing that happens with Christmas and the holidays is when you're watching football and they drop the first holiday commercial, which gets, it's earlier every year. I think this year was like first week in November. They were just banging them out. But then you start seeing the ads for like the Hallmark movies and the Lifetime movies. And then at some point on the streamers now, you see they'll start popping them on. You see Elf. Elf is up there for me. Me too.
Starting point is 00:06:30 But Christmas vacation is my favorite. And I think it's always been like immediately. in the theater. It was the last kind of part of the Chevy Chase run that he had in the 80s, which we'll talk about. But this was immediately good. It was immediately satisfying. Cousin Eddie showing up, pushed it over the top. And then for 35 years now, 34 years, it's just been super reliable. It's also crisp, man. It's like, what, 96 minutes? It's over and you're like, man, I could have used three more scenes. They just race through it. Doesn't waste any breath even. That's what I love about the
Starting point is 00:07:05 The National Lampoons movies. It's some sort of joke in every scene. Either there's either he's pushing it forward with his sarcastic brand of observational comedy or there's physical comedy or there's some slapstick deal happening right on the screen. So the movie is very brisk, but it feels like you get a lot out of it
Starting point is 00:07:23 for that 90. I agree. It's kind of a weirdly emotional movie, though. It is. I feel like this is the most sincere vacation movie. Yeah. It's kind of the most absurd one in some ways, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah. Absurd and sincere. Yeah. Chris Ryan, the ringer. Well, being stuck at the house means that they're not on a quest. So you don't really know what we're pushing towards other than just Christmas Day. So they have to infuse it with like we're feeling. And less like episodic, you know, like the first two movies are so episodic.
Starting point is 00:07:54 They're so like first we stop here, then we stop here, then we stop here. This is like, does it start on like December 14th? Yeah. When they go get the tree. Yeah. And something else. movies, he's so wacky. He almost at some point
Starting point is 00:08:08 becomes unrelatable because he's like this vacation dictator and nothing else matters. Obviously, that's coming from some trauma or something from his childhood. But in this movie, it's very direct because there's a scene where he laments his childhood and where you can tell
Starting point is 00:08:24 what he's reaching for. It's very accessible, like, why he's doing all of this. I told the story on the vacation rewatchables, but my dad's brother, Greg, we, to call his family the Griswolds, and they would go out of their way to go on these vacations and stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But Clark, I think the two things he really believes it is family and family being together, then the holidays, right? Which is totally relatable. And of course, the funniest thing about this movie is like the holidays usually suck
Starting point is 00:08:51 and you're stuck with a bunch of people you don't really want to see or talk to. And this movie hits that kind of the best. Yeah. When the parents show up, they're fighting outside the front door right away. Then the uncle shows up and then Cousin Eddie,
Starting point is 00:09:04 obviously shows up and then you just get all thrown together and you just kind of have to make it work. I don't know. It becomes survival. How much time do you spend thinking about like Clark Riswold as a character with continuity? Because I kind of like the idea that he's arrived at Christmas vacation and maybe life hasn't exactly turned out the way he wanted. You know, he's like, I have still at this job after 17 years. My kids somehow never get any older, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:29 My kids are getting younger. My kids are Benjamin Button. Yeah. These yuppies moved in next. store, they've got all this money. You know, like I, you know, my boss is Ned Beatty in Network, and I can't get this bonus. It's kind of like a,
Starting point is 00:09:42 it's kind of a dark movie sometimes when you watch it that way. End of the 80s? Yeah. It seems like he just wants one thing to go right. Yes. Can I just get my fucking Christmas lights to come on? Can I just get you guys to just have the family Christmas with me? And it's almost like this weird commentary
Starting point is 00:09:58 on the middle management wasteland that so many Americans were living in during that time. People that like we're disqualified from the rat race. All I want is Christmas to go right, and it still won't go right. My boss won't give me the bonus and all of that shit. That's the John Hughes wheelhouse. That's what I was going to say is I think that it's easy to forget that the movie is actually
Starting point is 00:10:18 kind of a movie of ideas and like real themes about real people because Chevy's in it and doing so much Chevy stuff. And he's such a zany comic actor. But John Hughes writes sincerely about the way that middle class people live in America. That's his whole thing. Plains Trains did that. you know, same kind of themes. I just want to get back to my family.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I just want to get there. I just want to celebrate the holidays. And the same kind of people. I don't even know if I really like that much. And the Steve Martin character is not so far away from where the Clark Griswold character is in Christmas vacation, too. Boy, that plane's train ending is still a nut kick boy. That's some really, really getting to your little, you're well enough right now. I am.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'm so near tears. Have we done planes? Yeah. We did. We did it. You've COVID brain. We've talked about this. Was I on that one?
Starting point is 00:11:03 I feel like I was on that one. You might have been. I feel like I was on that one. We're getting to the phase of the show now where we've forgotten the movies that we've done. I was watching Terminator. I think you weren't. I don't think I was.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I was watching Terminator 2 and I emailed Chris in Van saying how the first 35 minutes of Terminator 2 might be the best 35 minutes to start a movie ever and had forgotten that the three of us had done Terminator 2. How have we not done this?
Starting point is 00:11:30 I was like, how we did this? The poor arm like Bill needs to be putting a home, we'll be like, you checked out heat. You kind of an underrated 90s crime movie. Let me know. We could almost do that one multiple times. Yeah. Chevy.
Starting point is 00:11:45 83, vacation. Best defense with Eddie Murphy. 85, Fletch European vacation spies like us. 86, three Migos. 88, funny farm. 89 Fletch lives, which I still don't support. And then 89 Christmas vacation. So he bangs out nine movies in seven years.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I think all of them did really well. This is kind of the end of the road from Funny Farm didn't, right? I love Funny Farm too. Yeah, I love it too. It kind of ties into research where it's like he wanted George Worry Hill to direct this and they were like, well, no.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Another movie where I think it's a little bit misunderstood because it has a zany poster of Chevy Chase looking goofy and they think it's one kind of a movie. But when you watch the movie, it's actually a little more sophisticated than that. More interesting. Yeah, he's, I mean, he's psychags
Starting point is 00:12:28 for how many years in a row here. Even when he goes in the attic, which is one of the best scenes in this movie and it's like, all right, he's gonna step on that piece of wooded. It's like old school Buster Keaton Prattfall stuff. Who does this now? Physical comedy is not super popular, man. I was thinking about that, like...
Starting point is 00:12:43 I feel like Will Farrow could have gone this way, but then to just want to know part of it. I feel like the dude perfect jackass like era of stunt stuff kind of obviated the need for our big movie stars to do it. Yeah, all my homies. I mean, jackass is great.
Starting point is 00:12:58 We should just do a jackass rewatchable. Also, it, it, Watching somebody, like, get tased in the nuts, for real. Yeah. It's just different. I want to love the, like, the ballet of Chevy on the, on the ladder, but I actually do, like, seeing people, like, be shot with riot shotguns.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah, yeah. Just get smacked in the face with a giant oversized hand. I'm into that. What's the right age to show your son all the jackass movies? I have to tell you, though, that I have a feeling that if Ben hasn't already seen it, like, he's seen something equivalent to it on TikTok. YouTube. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I was going to say the answer is five years old. Yes, that's when we banned out all the jackass movies. So once again,
Starting point is 00:13:42 I'm not a great father. Written by John Hughes during this incredible John Hughes stretch that we've covered over and over again. This is a 10-year run culminating in Home Alone,
Starting point is 00:13:51 which becomes one of the most successful movies of all time. Directed by Jeremiah Chechich. Jeremiah Chechich. Jeremiah Chechich. Any thoughts on his IMDV? Sean?
Starting point is 00:14:01 We were preparing for this. Yeah. A curious career. Yeah. Never made a movie like this again. No. He shortly thereafter made the remake of Cluzzo's Diabolique with Sharon Stone and Isabella Johnny. A fave.
Starting point is 00:14:16 That didn't work. I think Chas Palminterre was the male lead. Certainly he did. I support all the Sheraton's own franchise. I mean, watching Basic Instinct 2 the other night. I felt like I just have to support the franchise. He made Benny and June. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:30 in the Johnny Depp movie. Which was a beloved movie by the white girls in high school. Is that true? Oh, Jesus Christ. I think you might have known more about white girls than I did in high school. That probably so. Stuff. Life could have went a different way, Sean.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Well, I haven't married to one now, so it's okay. It works out. And Bronx is Burning, the ESPN mini-series he directed. With Totoro. Oh, wow. And Oliver Platt. They were making that as it was airing. We were wondering if you had any thoughts on that one.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I just remember that was right when I was getting involved in ESPN content. And they ordered like eight epiping. of it and the schedule was kind of condensed and they were like finishing stuff as they were filming. It was pretty hairy. Wouldn't say he has a otore point of view. This movie's pretty well done though. It's pretty, it's pretty cross. The biggest thing I learned in the research for a movie, I've watched this at least once a year, I think. I don't know how many times total, but every year I watch this around how this. In the research, they said this movie may have been what we see now in
Starting point is 00:15:32 LA and I'm sure in other cities, but especially here, the Christmas lights and the houses, how over the top it is. I include my house right now. They said nobody really had kind of put the pieces together until this movie. I don't know if I believe that, but I also can't...
Starting point is 00:15:48 Seems unlikely. Do you do your own... Light hanging? Of course not. I can't even freaking brush my teeth. What are you talking about? So what's your... This is very interesting. What's What's your job then? Are you like the director of lights? Are you...
Starting point is 00:16:04 This is my wife's domain. My job is to walk outside the house and say, that looked great. I see, I didn't want to save the money. A Mike Greenwell or Ellis Birch jersey on and you're up in the fucking ladder. With the old red side? No, that is not. That's not me.
Starting point is 00:16:20 That was my stepdad though. Yeah. My stepdad was kind of the... There's just certain people have the Clark Griswold in them. I'm doing this myself. I'm going to go get there. Our friend Zach is like this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:30 My wife is like this. We've considered a Santa, inflatable Santa for the roof kind of thing. Some people, I mean, it's part of, work is the part of Christmas, right? Like, I never wanted to work ever. So, like, going out Christmas shopping, hassle, lights, hassle, tree, hassle, hassle, hassle, hassle. I would much rather drive through Candy Can Lane and look at other people's stuff than, like, put it up from my own stuff. And then go home to an unlit, somber. condo. Like a somber condo, no Christmas. All I do for Christmas, put the dog in a hat.
Starting point is 00:17:03 So you're Todd and Margo. Yep. Yeah. I'm definitely Todd and Margo. I connected with them so much. I even run in a sauna suit. No bullshit. I run around the neighborhood in a sauna suit. You're a lady's yuppie. A little bit. I'm like, I'm looking a little fluff. I need to pull a little sweat. I'm them way more than I am in the Griswold. Where do you stand out of fake tree people? Well, I want to talk about this. had a conversation about this. So, you know, my dad is a little bit of a Clark Rizwald too, puts up the lights all by himself, vacations in the car, all that stuff. And he called me last year and he's, we were FaceTiming, and he shows me the tree.
Starting point is 00:17:43 You know, shows me the Christmas tree every year at his house. And I was like, oh, wow, looks amazing. It looked really good. It looked too good. Yeah. And I was like, is that, Dad, is that a fake tree? And he's like, yes, it is. And I was like, dad, you raised me to be a real tree man. I've been buying real trees in my home for the last 15 years. You betrayed me. Real tree man and real stick man. I'm sure you he did not train me to be that.
Starting point is 00:18:11 But he's made a total change. And now he's like the Bernie Sanders of fake trees. He's like, fake trees are the only way to go. Universal fake trees for everyone. What's his rationale? He's like, no needles. Needs are death
Starting point is 00:18:26 in the house. And if you drop the needles and the cleanup is a fucking hassle. And this was the first year where I got a real tree again this year. And I was like, this is a mistake. I need a fake tree. So the argument I have for fake trees, which I do not have. I have a Douglas fir or whatever the hell we got this year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:44 But I want to introduce an idea that Christmas, next day, turn off the tree. You know, just turn it off. Go through New Year's. You're socially exhausted. Go through the first week of January, get back to work. That weekend, second Christmas. And you fucking flick the lights back. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And everybody is back. And then we have sex Christmas parties just to get us through the first month of 2024 where everybody's depressed. But don't do dry January. Do dry February? You know, like one more holiday party to get us kicked into the 24.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Do we do gifts again? What? Do we do gifts again? I don't know. Honestly, it could just be like a holiday party. Because I'm fucking with this. I'm fucking with second Christmas. Because there's no like real reason to hang out.
Starting point is 00:19:28 out in the first couple months of the year. Could it be Super Bowl weekend where it's like just everything, as you know, one of my goals in life is to make Super Bowl weekend. Into a national holiday. Yeah. Much more of an event and everybody gets Monday off. I like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Look, maybe we can bring together our two philosophies here. Do you have anyone in your life that never gets rid of the tree after Christmas? I've had trees that were clearly rotting. Decrepit. Yeah. And my wife was still like, there's still some, we, we, we have. We got a couple more days in here. And it's like that smell is weird.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Like that smell is dying sap. Yeah. My dad and my stepmom are legendary for waiting too long to get rid of their tree. And there was one time when I went back to visit right around the Celtics playoffs and the tree was still up. No way. I was telling me. And I was like, did she say, my dad's like, yeah, we haven't gotten around to them. I'm like, you're retired.
Starting point is 00:20:25 What are you talking about? Is it laziness or the. not willing to let go of the season. It seems like just we'll get to it and then you never get to it. Same reason my dad still doesn't have Netflix since he got bounced off my account. Just won't sign up for it and then complains
Starting point is 00:20:40 about how to do it's on Netflix. You can tell though, like those trees become like basically tender boxes the longer they live. This is just a pure accelerant in my... It's a fire happening. Also, I think the tree is like
Starting point is 00:20:54 instant happiness though, man. The tree is so symbolic. My mother and my grandmother put all kinds of weird stuff on the tree, like African spiritualist stuff and different onks and all of that type of shit hanging from the tree. And they leave it up for too long, but it's because it just means a happy time. And people can't let go of this shit, man. It's a vicious circle. The more you get invested in Christmas, the harder is to let it go.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. That's like Christmas symbolizes life. It's coming. You go get the tree. There's present. And then at the end, you're thrown out of it. Right. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Let's talk about Jesus. The reason for the season. I didn't want to get into that, but we feel. It's a game changer with kids. This is really the first Christmas that I'm having with a kid. Oh, yeah. And it's two to nine. It's still there.
Starting point is 00:21:41 It's still the wonder, because I'm not around kids anymore. No, they. Amazing. It's amazing. Santa Claus, Elf in the. We had Elf, we were doing parent corners on Elf in the Show for me and Sal for years because my stupid kids believed the elf was moving every day. And if it didn't, they were in trouble.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Like, and then they turned 10. and they're like, I can't believe I fell for that shit. This basically becomes the attitude. We got to bring Sean's daughter a present the other day. And I did vicariously realize, like, oh, my God, like, this present is, like, three-quarters the size of this child. And they were like, really, the wonder of the season is pretty amazing. Christmas and Halloween are, like, two of the best reasons to have kids. Another good reason is when you get older, they take care of you before you die.
Starting point is 00:22:25 But those Christmas and Halloween... See, awesome. I have to have kids, and I'll tell you why, because, like, I'm too cerebral about all of this now. Like, I only get Christmas gifts for the nieces and nephews every other year. Why? It's just too many of them. Oh. These motherfuckers not going to break me every year.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I don't even get shit from them. You have a big family? Yeah. I get nothing back from... Well, you got to take care of your crew, too, for when you do the ringer coup de time. That's true. Yeah, the whole... You almost have...
Starting point is 00:22:50 Everybody's a lot of gifts. I don't get any... You get Lindberg a gift? No, I should. Is it because he's white? Wow, look at it. Is Lindberg? the crew?
Starting point is 00:22:58 Jesus. Lembert. Ben has numbers. How about this? How about this? We had a bit of a meeting about this later. It's going to be like, Chris is in the crew. Like, Chris.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Me and Limberr took literally, we left a screening. I'll tell you how Limburg got initiated into the crew. We left a screening in New York. And we took a nighttime stroll through Central Park. Well, he's a night owl. Wow. That doesn't go to sleep. We took a nighttime stroll.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Yeah. He's just, yeah. It's weirdly jacked. Yeah. Ben's diesel and doesn't sleep. the ring of oral history would be like the 12th part he's also been deferring his salary since
Starting point is 00:23:33 2011 like Otani so do you believe that this movie inspired the Christmas light boom I feel like I'm willing to believe it but I don't know if it's true I think that the run of die hard home alone and this like maybe I could I could see a connection between that
Starting point is 00:23:50 and like the modern like obsession with adorn it like you almost want to be Christmas movie culture. So I was a little kid before this movie came out, and I vividly remember me and my siblings were piling into the car to go drive to the neighborhoods where they really did up the light. So I have to assume that this didn't. Maybe it inspired it even more, but it was happening before that. Well, I mean, I was in college when this movie came out, but when I was a kid, I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:15 the Christmas movie boom hadn't happened. So all the Christmas movies were like, It's a Wonderful Life and shit that was. Miracle on 34th Street. Way before I was born. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my dad's family would always be, oh, we got to watch. And I was always like, these movies kind of suck. Where are the movies for me?
Starting point is 00:24:32 And then all of a sudden, you just started making them. I mean, you could say this and home alone just start and maybe die hard. You know what I forgot to mention that I love is Black Christmas, the Slashor movie. That's one of the great Christmas movies. I kind of liked the remake of that, too. There have been two, which one? The one with recent one? It was one of 2006.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Is Imogen Puts in one of them? That was a bunch a few years ago. I like that one. I like a horror movie. What do you guys stand on the battle between this Christmas and Almost Christmas that splits up the African American community? Explain it to us. Okay, so this Christmas is a movie with Chris Brown,
Starting point is 00:25:09 Lauren London, Idris Elba. I like Lauren London. Okay, Almost Christmas is a movie that stars Gabrielle Union, Omar Epps, Danny Glover, Monique. It's Will Packer production. That's the one I'm familiar with. Right. That one to me is better.
Starting point is 00:25:24 But I want to get, I like to start. Is the former Malcolm Lee movie? I can't remember with Malcolm. So is this like a LeBron versus Michael Jordan type of argument? Or is that people don't? I don't think Malcolm did either one of them. But, because there was all kinds of problems on the, I feel like the Best Man Holiday is the best one of the Black Christmas movies.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Best Man is fucking great. That's kind of like a cheat coat though, because you're taking all the best man. Yeah. And all of that stuff. The Best Man is good. You're really good. What about Tyler Perry comes down in the chimney?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Is that a third? Is that also a horror movie? Medea's got a Christmas movie, does she? I don't know. I'm sure Medea's got a Christmas movie. I told you, Tyler's cooking right now, man. Tyler's cooking. He's cooking.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Tyler saw the Netflix data, and he's like, Tilly of my shit. He's got his own network. All of them shows are hidden, man. What did you think of the Christmas scene in Oppenheimer? Which episode is that? Is that episode three? Ep three?
Starting point is 00:26:20 I still haven't seen Barbie, Sean. Take your time. This movie had a $25.5 million budget made $73.3 million. So now you're just doing all box office returns in that voice. Tripled the budget. Yeah, it's good. Roger Ebert, two stars. Damn, Raj.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Raj isn't really ending the year well. It's not his fault. You know what, it's a hard time for film critics. They're really busy. Yeah, all these top ten lists. He said, the movie is curious and how close it comes to delivering on its material. Sequence after sequence seems to contain all the necessary material to be well the way toward a payoff, and then it somehow
Starting point is 00:26:56 doesn't work. Fuck you, Raj. I just completely disagree. Okay, let me just ask, am I alone in thinking this is, it goes, this is the third best vacation? Wrong. I disagree. Oh, I have it second.
Starting point is 00:27:12 So you guys don't like Europe? I think it's the best one, but... European, you think it's the best one? No, no, no, not European. I think this one is the best one. And then National Amphoon is... The National Amphoon is... I have European.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I love European, but I think it doesn't compare it to the other. too as well. I like European a lot. I think it might be my second. I actually think Vegas is ahead of European. Wow. Man, Amy Hapagio. They took the national amputeau. They did. It's not national Ample. Vegas, they were just like, people love Cousinetti. He's just like him cook. Let's run some
Starting point is 00:27:38 misos. Right. And just have some... There's an elite Ethan Emory performance in Vegas. I actually like Vegas. I would like Vegas vacation more than Euro. Also, I'm a gambling guy, you know? I'm gambling again. My biggest... Sean likes all Vegas movies. My biggest issue with Euro is how bad Rusty is.
Starting point is 00:27:56 He sucks. Rusty just fucking, it's Sophia Coppola Godfather's three level bad. She just caught her straight for no reason. She was bad. She was bad, but what do you talk about? She was horrible in that video. Who is it? Jason lively.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Yeah. Not a lot of IMDs. Do you think it's just the right place, right time when you saw a thing for you? I think it led to a sexual awakening. I was just going to say, that's the thing for me. I knew, I knew we were going to get there. It was one of the first PG-13 movies. But it was like, it was weird sexual undertones, the breasts and all of the stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:28 That's what I remember about that movie. Yeah, it's a horny. Yeah. But it's, you know, it's an Amy Heckerling movie. I think it's, you know, it's got a lot of pizzazz. All right. Not for me. C.R.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I thought, can you save it for Byron Mayo later? Sean, which is, I've never, wait a minute. Have I heard Horny C.R. before? Yeah, he's in the form of Byron May. Late-breaking, emerging character. We'll re-watch it later. I'm into it. Have you seen Officer and a gentleman?
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yeah. Okay. You know what Robert Loja reveals his lower torso the first 10 minutes of the movie? Big inspiration for Chris. Byron Mayo is taking over Wayne Jenkins. It's 2020. We're going to take a break and do re-watchable scenes.
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Starting point is 00:30:47 Just go to LinkedIn.com slash rewatchables. terms and conditions apply. All right. Rewatchable scene. Opening, basically the opening scene, Clark gets tailgated and buys a tree.
Starting point is 00:31:00 There's a lot going on here. You ever tried that going under the truck move? It's hard. Especially in that car. Is that mean you have? I thought about it. Sometimes you drive by a truck.
Starting point is 00:31:12 You're like, could I just fly through there? What the fuck are you talking about? I can see him in his car. I get bored on a long time. You're listening to
Starting point is 00:31:24 Justin and Eddie. You're thinking about calling in you know. This bill for him got Clark. I like what
Starting point is 00:31:35 the wife says Clark, I don't want to spend the holidays day. She's just dropping off lines left and right.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I like frozen Audrey when they actually get to the trees. I like when he says, there's three
Starting point is 00:31:46 the thimble of the Grithwell family because his tongue's frozen. And I'm going to that the Denna Thieves Benihano were seen still in location as well. I like all the trees.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I'm good to you see all those beautiful Christmas trees. That scene is like what I'm talking about though. Think of all the fun. Think of all the 20 funny things in there. There's 20 funny things that happen and even the last scene. They don't let you get off without kicking you in your nuts with a little bit more funny. Dad, did you bring us off? Something else, huh, Russ?
Starting point is 00:32:11 Yeah, Dad. Isn't it a butre? She'll see it later, honey. Her eyes are frozen. Most enduring traditions of the season are best enjoyed in the warm embrace of kiss and kin. This tree is a symbol of the spirit of the Griswold family Christmas. Dad, did you bring a saw? And then they've uprooted the fucking tree out of the...
Starting point is 00:32:40 It's just hilarious. It's an unanswerable question there. You know, the... How did they get the goddamn tree? Frozen. Yeah. Don't give me an unanswerable question in the first three minutes of the movie. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Well, the tree also changes sizes a couple of times. The tree they're getting, there's no way that fits, it's bigger than his entire house. But it's fine. It's a Christmas comedy movie. The parents show up. The chaos of that scene when the parents, one guy says,
Starting point is 00:33:07 they took a pint of fluid out of my back. And then the next parent's like, you see this mole? And it's just like classic old people shit. Oh, mom. You promise, you don't know, they took a pint of fluid out of my lower back. You see this mole? This mole in my neck?
Starting point is 00:33:32 I think it's changing color. No. Well, you keep touching it. It's getting redder. I got hammerroads. Can you believe them? A mother. Isn't that too?
Starting point is 00:33:40 You're not getting a garage space. I'm doing the parking. What age does that happen? 70s. Really? Yeah. You come over here. Baby, come over here and look at this.
Starting point is 00:33:51 What, what, what, what, what, what, Moe got on her thigh? I'm like, yeah. I don't fucking want to know. I love you to death. Like, what age do they start doing that? You think this is melanoma? What do I look like? I talk about Marvel movies for a movie.
Starting point is 00:34:03 You're looking like an oncologist. You think Biden does that now? God, Bill. No, Biden's old. Where he's just, he's in the White House. He's like, what is that? Hunter, come in here. Hunter, take a look.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Cheap of staff. Come on in here. Clark shows up the Christmas lights. They don't work. 250 strands of lights. 100 individual bulbs per strand for a grand total of 25. thousand imported Italian Fuekel lights.
Starting point is 00:34:29 25,000. I hope nobody I know drives by and sees me standing in the yard, staring at the house in my pajamas. If they know your dad, they won't think anything of it. Fire it up, Dad! I dedicate this house to the Griswold family Christmas. Aw. Drum roll, please.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Oh, oh, uh, dr. And then, he thinks they're going to work. And this is the drum roll, please. And they just never work. Chevy Chase is the funniest. Shit's not going right for me right now. And I'm trying to save it, actor.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Would you put him and Will Farrell in the finals? Those are both good ones. I was thinking about... It's a talent that nobody under 40 has anymore. Steve Martin did this, too. He was good. He's a good. He's a good.
Starting point is 00:35:26 He's really good at that. Maybe under 40. Sandler could do it sometimes. Yeah. Salon's a little over the top, though. Yeah, he has rage. Yeah, right. He did the rage version of it.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Billy Madison and stuff. Anybody under 40 with... You know, I was thinking about that... He should be a physical comedian has to be part of it. I like Vince Vaughn doing this too. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking about this in recasting. There isn't a Chevy Chase right now,
Starting point is 00:35:52 and there hasn't been for a long time. Like a guy who delivers like that. Like, those guys are kind of gone, right? I think it has to be somebody that had... Like, he had, like, crazy. sketch comedy background and audiences where he's in groundlings
Starting point is 00:36:06 and the second city all that stuff and I think you have to you learn when you're on in stage every night you learn this physical version of comedy that I just don't know if people do anymore
Starting point is 00:36:16 it's a pretty amazing combination of that the physical stuff and then like the constant ad lib seeming smart ass remarks yeah a lot of sap in here right
Starting point is 00:36:25 plus he's six to enhance him that's the thing that was the thing is he was like he was like I'm gonna evolve or devolve depending on how you see him, Carrie Grant.
Starting point is 00:36:34 It's like, how can a guy this handsome be this funny while surrounded by all these people who were shorter than him, less beautiful than him? But this is, you mentioned this.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Like, this is the end. This is the last big movie that he started. It's a 15-year run, which is a long time because the first season, SNL is in 75,
Starting point is 00:36:51 and he basically runs that all the way through to 89, which is, and he was late when he got started. I think he was like 31, 332 in SNO. So it's about as long of a run as you're going to have
Starting point is 00:37:01 because at some point, you got to do the Bill Murray thing and re-and-Bang yourself as a dramatic actor and find Wes A.Norson. Right, right. He never really did that. It's kind of what Wolf Farrows
Starting point is 00:37:08 to be invisible man. Yeah. And then there was a, like, a truly beloved bizarre movie. Remember nothing but trouble? Yeah. Right after this. Right after this.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Like, and then that was kind of, I remember a couple years after that. I like that one. I love that movie. I love the movie, but it's so bad though. It's so bad and weird and off. Like, it's just an odd movie.
Starting point is 00:37:28 There's like four characters playing multiple, four actors playing multiple characters Major Dan Aykroyd, you check in that movie and candy is good. This is a weird time for comedy and I think part of it is the cocaine is starting to wear off
Starting point is 00:37:40 when you get to this by this is when 48 hours too happens which I'm still mad about. You ever want to do an angry rewatchable is in the middle of 48 hours too? I actually kind of like another 48 hours. Pull up Eddie Murphy? I kind of like it.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I'm just saying the biker gang, I kind of like it. Listen, I'm not saying I haven't watched it 60 times. It just makes me mad. It's like a, it's an angry watch for me. You have those movies where you just like, God damn it. Why didn't you get this right? You had all this. Also, there are new guys coming at this point. Those guys are like, I mean, obviously some other guys. New comedy guys guys are coming. Yeah, it's volume one of the S&L crew is kind of winding down. Right, right. We're on the precipice of like Mike Myers and all those guys coming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Jay Carrey or down the court. Dana Carvey. Guys like that. The funniest man ever, Phil Hartman is is in the mix. Yeah, RIP. Phil Hartman was a little Chevy Chase-esque in a way,
Starting point is 00:38:35 a little bit more of a performer. They gave you... Did more characters. Yeah. Yeah. This is where Machine Gun Kelly
Starting point is 00:38:42 kept to it called an imprison barlance his bitch. Everyone here calls me Vicky. What, okay, so there's four guys
Starting point is 00:38:50 right in this time. It's Steve Martin, it's Bill Murray, it's Chevy, and it's Eddie Murphy. Mm-hmm. It's a real who you got. But Eddie never did
Starting point is 00:38:58 physical comedy like this. He was always wise. He was always wise. But just in terms of like movie stars, comedy movie star, male movie stars in the 80s. Like in the 90s, Robbilliams becomes actually a much bigger movie star. Well, and then Jim Carrey takes the fiscal.
Starting point is 00:39:12 He basically takes the Chevy Chase torch. And like Ben Stiller comes along, like a lot of people come along who get in there. Adam Sandler, you know, and Wilson. But like those four guys pretty much define the decade for comedy movies. Yep. For sure. With Billmer.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Is your question? Which one is your guy? I know Eddie is your guy, right? That's your number one? my eternal guy. Are you basing this on the actual movies they made or on their persona? I think both. I think they're all distinct and cool and interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I think I like Bill Murray's movies more and I think I like Chevy Chase as like his style of comedy. God damn it, that's a really tough call. I think Chevy Chase has a better library, honestly. If you're stuck with 10, if you had take 10 DVDs to a Desert Island. Oh, I take Bill Murray.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I'm saying from this. From that period. Bill Murray is. But from 75 to 90, I think Chevy is a better library. And then I think Murray catches What years? What about Bob? That's after 9. After.
Starting point is 00:40:01 901. Yeah. Because Chevy I saw it seems like old times of foul play. Mm-hmm. Plus all the stuff and... Well, that's what's interesting about it, right? Because Bill Murray was there to fill in for Chevy
Starting point is 00:40:14 after he leaves in some ways. He's like filling the gap on SNL. But then it takes 10 years for Murray to basically succeed him as the male movie star of that time, too. Yeah. You know, it's interesting when you think about it. Number one, I'll say one thing about Seams like old times. That to me was the version of the career that Chevy Chase like could have had
Starting point is 00:40:33 because that's Chevy Chase to me at his best. Chevy Chase is an all-timer for me. I can't believe we haven't done it yet. Which one? Seems like old times. He's got all the things that you're talking about. He's a leading man. He's a leading man. He's, but like he's handsome. He's swaff. He's funny. All of that stuff. But I will say, you know, Bill Murray, Ghostbusters is like 1984. It is. Yeah. That's the biggest fucking movie in the world. But Chevy, in the 80s, I think Chevy has a more consistent run. Totally good.
Starting point is 00:41:04 But in the 90s, then Bill Murray is like firing on all cylinders. He's just like Kingpin. And he's, yeah, yeah. I loved Goldie Hawn. I just want you to know that. She is adorable. That's a really, really beautiful. Of all the things that have been remade, I can't believe nobody's trying to fuck that with him.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Should we do Goldie Hawn Month? Wildcats. Well, Sean Shad on Private Benjamin. I know. That's not one in his biggest phone. I said no one under 35 has seen it. Yeah. And I confirm.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I looked it up that man after you said that. Private Benjamin was a bigger movie that made more money than full middle jacket. I just looked at all the numbers. It was like the six biggest movie in 1980. No one under 35 was a lot. They made a TV show about it. It was so, it became such a drama. Did you just say it's bigger than full metal jacket?
Starting point is 00:41:44 Obviously it's bigger than full metal jacket. No. These guys said full metal jacket was the biggest. No, the conversation was about what is the best? It was Apex Mountain. Basic Training. Yes. And we said, we said, apex mountain for basic training.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Well, the best is full metal jacket. Yes. That was what we were talking about. The full metal jacket wasn't successful when it came out. But it was considered a wonderful green watch. But that's the context of Apex Mountain. You mean the movie? You're the one who invented Aeson?
Starting point is 00:42:10 And I'm telling you. This is like fucking playing basketball and finding out traveling is legal, right? Listen, you got to bet your own. When it came out, it was that Apex Mountain. It eventually became the best. Okay. But Private Benchew was a phenomenal. So Goldie Hawn Month.
Starting point is 00:42:27 No, we're definitely not doing. Benjamin. We will do Fault Metal Jack. Can we, before we stop the feed, can we do Wildcats? Oh, with Woody and Wesley? Yeah, I love that movie. How many Goldie Hall movies have been done on the rewatchable? None. Zero.
Starting point is 00:42:40 We've never had the Goldie Hawn conversation. Well, shampoo is when we got to do it at some place. Champo? That's great. Champo is amazing. Overboard. I was just going to say overboard. People love overboard. Overboard, man. Overboard's classic.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I love Goldie Hawn. What's an adorable woman in Hollywood history? Next, rewatchable scene. I forgot we were doing that. This has been a good one. We're veering. The lights finally go on and off and on and off. Love it.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And finally go on. There's so many good moments in this. The garage extension cord that has 20 things plugged into it is so good. It's so good. Everybody had that one weird part of the house where your dad had plugged in 62 things into one Kmart extension cord. Yeah. It's so good. And then he'd be like, you have to unplug that to plug that in.
Starting point is 00:43:28 We just won't use the TV for an hour. I love when he's, Clark's emotional when it goes on. He says, Dad, thanks, Dad. You taught me everything I know about exterior illumination. Eddie just shows up in the middle of it. It's already a really good scene. And all of a sudden, Eddie's there. He's like, hey, Eddie.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And it's Eddie? And there's this SUV. And he goes through his family, and they look at the daughter. And they're like, hey, what happened with Ruby Sue? It's like, funniest thing. Her eyes aren't crossed anymore. And he goes, she falls in a well, eyes get crossed, gets kicked by a mule and they uncross. You remember Ruby Sue?
Starting point is 00:44:08 Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Her eyes aren't crossed anymore. That's something, ain't it? She falls in a well, eyes go cross. She gets kicked by a mule, they go back to normal. I don't know. And this here's our pride and joy.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Snots. Pretty name, Ed. Yeah, we named him that because he's got the sinus condition. Snots! You roll over and let Uncle Clark scratch your belly. You ain't never seen a set on a dog like this one's got to Clark. That's okay, Eddie. That's something, ain't it?
Starting point is 00:44:49 You petting Clark on the belly. And that's the thing about Eddie, like, they're so, he's so disgusting. The dog has a sinus condition. Yeah, these names, Snott. Rocky has a lip-foss. You might not want to do that. Everything is a joke. He's got a lip fungus they haven't identified.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Eddie is all time in this. I like when he talks about stats. He's got a set of balls on him. Drink a can of pens a little. I like when they're walking through the supermarket and Eddie is just loading up the car with stuff. What's the best? It's just like it's such a funny bit.
Starting point is 00:45:25 All the dog food. He just keeps putting Purita. He's just pointing the things And knowing that he's not paying, but he's just pointing at things and he's putting them in there. I love it. It's all, I had that later. Spit takes watching him put the dog food into his face the whole time.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Next one I had was Clark and Eddie hanging out in the living room when Clark's wearing that. I mean, Eddie's wearing, it's like a V-neck, but he also has a turtleneck. Yeah. And he's telling them about how the dog will hump his leg, everyone's funny. It's best that you let him finish. Snots. And then Clark says, can I ever fill your egg knock for you? get you something to eat, drive you out to the middle of nowhere,
Starting point is 00:46:01 leave you for dead. The sledding scene is the you know, the dumbest scene in the movie. Non-coloric silicon-based kitchen lubricant sledding. Yeah. I still like it. Is that what you were using during European vacation? Oh!
Starting point is 00:46:18 It's best if you just let me finish. Just let him finish. Stots. Oh, Christ. Eddie admits the metal plate in his head it was replaced because every time Catherine rubbed up the microwave by pissed by pants that turplaced
Starting point is 00:46:35 with plastic uh it's not gonna look right because didn't it does Eddie is Eddie an even better character now that we know that Randy Quaid is a real fruitcake so I was gonna ask did
Starting point is 00:46:48 does Randy Quaid being a lunatic hurt does Randy Quaid become Eddie in real life like hurt Eddie yeah I kind of wish I didn't know all the Randy Quaid stuff it's like the most predictable thing if he was like yeah that he actually became
Starting point is 00:47:05 that it seems almost meta yeah I love Randy Quay man Clark and Eddie go shopping you mentioned this I like when he goes how's the live how's the live bait business Eddie that's apparently Eddie's business live bait
Starting point is 00:47:17 and then he talks about he lost his money and how if only we had the money we sent the preacher was screwing the hockey player it's not even explained I don't know what about his kids all his kids can fit for themselves.
Starting point is 00:47:31 No, your kids. No, your kids, Eddie. Christmas Eve, dinner with the overcooked turkey. Sorry. Why are you crying? I told you we put it in too early. It's just a little dry. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Here's the heart. Is that your Big Kahuna Burger Award for best use of food and drink? Or would you go in the egg duck? We put it in too early. Oh, there's the heart. And then they're chewing on the goddamn turkey for the rest of the thing. And the cat shit and the joel. I also like when they're at the table and Clark saying,
Starting point is 00:48:12 I saw a sled last night. I think it was Santa Claus to the kids. And then he goes, you serious? And then Clark doesn't get his bonus. That's when he slurps the egg, the egg, and he has his crazy monologue, which we'll just play. It's good. Hey, if any of you were looking for any,
Starting point is 00:48:36 last-minute gift ideas for me. I have one. I like Frank Shirley, my boss, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there, Melody Lane, with all the other rich people. And I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head. And I want to look him straight in the eye,
Starting point is 00:48:55 and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, far-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spottily-lipped, wormheaded sack of monkey shit he is. Hallelujah. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Where's the Tylenol? And then Clark's kidnapped boss shows up at last. What do you have for your favorite scene shot? I love the meltdown. I love the, don't get the bonus meltdown. That's like the best performance. Where's the time? That's like Chevy Chase's best movie moment.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Do you think he's ad-libbing some of that? Or is it like an actual? The rumor is, like, so they say that he ad-lived it, but then there was also a rumor that people on the other side of the shot were holding cue cards that only had like brainless, dickless, hopeless so that he knew there were words to say, but that it was mostly him.
Starting point is 00:49:53 What a performance. Amazing. He's so good. Don't piss me off art. You know, my favorite line, it's not a rewatchable scene, but it's my favorite line. He comes out, he's got the Jason mask on. He's got the chainsaw.
Starting point is 00:50:04 He's got the chainsaw. And Rocket goes out. where you're going to put a tree that big? It's like, bend over and I'll show you. How dare you talk to me like that? Wasn't talking to you. Incredible. And then the look that...
Starting point is 00:50:18 Because we've got to talk about Julia Louis Jibberton. Yeah. And the look, it's just fucking hysterical, man. That's my favorite line of the whole movie. Underrated part of Clark is that, like, deep down, he's a fucking asshole. You know? As much as he's trying to do the Superdad thing, like, he's a wise-ass. He's a fucking dick.
Starting point is 00:50:34 What do you have for most of the watchful scene? All of those things. brough. I literally it's the same fucking list. Okay. Except for one. My, well, my favorite parts of these movies are like how horny Clark is.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Yeah. Kim and the model at the, at the perfume counter it's fucking fantastic. Yeah. That's, first of all, crazy, crazy, crazy performance by him in that scene.
Starting point is 00:51:01 He's falling all over himself. Yeah. It's a little bit nipply outside. And Russ is like up. There's daddy. There's daddy. There's daddy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:08 He's a store lady. He's freaky. He knows his father. Did Clark get me too? Do you think at some point? By his own kids, yeah. What's age the best? Julie Lee Dreyfus.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Yeah. Yes. Like, right as she's filming Seinfeld Chronicles era, like same hair, everything. She looks exactly the same now. It's weird. She has not aged a day. She's great.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Do we like Todd and Margo? I think that the making, like, torturing yuppies is a very good late 80s, early 90s. What's age of best? And it's just like they're they're yuppies down to the stereo system, to the jogging, to Todd and Margo. To their like no tree. To their minimalist, we're going to drink wine before we fuck in the middle.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Like the whole nine, they're so yuppie. And they get shit on the 80s audience is probably loving. Nothing good happens for them. Yeah. Julia Lewis, a basically auditioning for Cape Fear as, as Audrey, just throwing darts left and right. this Griswold daughter character was always like the pissy teenager just having that stage in life
Starting point is 00:52:13 and I always thought they nailed it. I think she's the best one. Yeah. Also like when the lights don't turn on and she gives Clark the like, it's okay, dad, it's beautiful even without the lights on. I was like,
Starting point is 00:52:23 that's fucking acting right there. That's Julie. As a father of daughters. I was like one day my daughter will say that to me. I like Diane Laid as Clark's mom. I thought she does a good job. The,
Starting point is 00:52:32 uh, oh, Juliet at Lewis saying, Do you sleep with your brother? Do you know how twisted that is? The story and grandparents are great. Van Beverly DeAngelo, first ballot, white girl hall famer.
Starting point is 00:52:45 First ballot. They threw in a nightgown scene for you in bed. She looks even better. She looks incredible in this. Don't feel like they gave her enough to do it. No, I totally agree. Well, I will say this, they didn't, but she is still the ultimate straight man
Starting point is 00:53:00 to what Chevy Chase is doing. But there's a lot more just sparky, sparky, sparky, sparky, then, like, giving her actual stuff. Yeah, I agree. I don't think Tyloo moved the minutes around well enough for her. Like, take George and Kauai out and just let her run the offense for like seven minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:15 She should have turned to Jeremiah Chetchik and be like, I'm not Bones Highland, man. You need to run some plays for me. There should have been her Christmas shopping on her own and getting hit on by some horny sales court or something. That would actually be really awesome, is if they had flipped it and then, and Barb had, like, she had like a guy that she was fantasizing about.
Starting point is 00:53:31 That would pretty funny. That's what happens in Vegas vacation. with Wayne Newton. Wayne Newton like falls in love with her. That's right. She was really good. I just think that's how they did movies in the 80s where the wife was always like the accessory package for the star.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah. Or Ellen, sorry, not Barb. The Christmas tree, when he does it, he puts it in, and then the next scene when he's in bed and he rubs her head, his ass sticks to the lamp. The things sticking in the magazine. He's cooking in this. Like, I had that for what stage the best.
Starting point is 00:54:04 There's just some good. Chevy stuff, like buying the presents from the hot sales lady, all that stuff. What says the best, shitter is full became like an all-time Twitter meme, right? It's like a top fiver. Shitter's full. Shitter's full. I feel like
Starting point is 00:54:18 that's on my Twitter timeline once a week. That's what the Chargers owner said to Brandon Stately this morning. What's the FCR? What's the FCR? The callbacks to the other movies like the white loafers and Clark screaming, Russ! When he's right there.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Otherwise, you mentioned them. I said, yeah, just torturing the yuppies is really a funny, a funny, like, thread through the movie. What do you have, Sean, anything? Just this becoming, I think, generationally, the Christmas movie. Like, this is the number one. I don't think that they knew that when they were making the third vacation movie, and they had to beg John Hughes to come back to write another one.
Starting point is 00:54:54 And then Chris Columbus, well, I'm sure we'll talk about that. You never would guess that this movie would be, I mean, it's been how many years now, 35 years, almost. And it's aged amazingly. It's like it's on every channel for two months every year. What do you got, Van? For me, it's finding out your dad is a horny freak. I remember the moment that it happened for me.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Oh, no. You know what I mean? I thought we've talked about this in a bunch of different. I like that. It's true. It continues to age 12. Did this go up and like C of Love? I can remember what it's true.
Starting point is 00:55:23 We got to do basic instinct just to bring Van's dad somehow. Oh, my God. I just remember it like, you know, let's put it to you like this. I'll tell the story. I know this is like a family podcast. It's really not. But my dad had gone to college with my seventh grade science teacher. And he sees her and she goes, Terry?
Starting point is 00:55:48 And he goes, hey, how you doing? Oh, no. And I'm like, what the hell is going on? And so then I go get in the truck and they talk and he comes in. He sits down to the truck. He goes, ha, ha, ha. And I'm like, what's going on? And I was like, yeah, you know, Miss Williams, man.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Tell you what, man, 1975. She was something else, boy. I'm like, what the hell? I'm not going to tell you exactly what he said because, you know. But yeah, so that was the moment I realized, hey, he's fucked other women. He's had sex. He had a lot of sex before mom.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I had for another what's age the best. Are we not going to go around and talk about the women or dad? No, right. No, right. Okay. Not on that one. What's age the best? This is like when they just started making sequels.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And it's just like, hey, here's some sequels. And here's another one. And they're making lethal weapon too. Same year as Flesh Lists. Two. Back to the Futures 2. Fletch lives. Another 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Star Trek 5. You go through like the Karate Kid 3 comes out that year. They're really cashing out on the decade. There's another nightmare in Elm Street. There's a Halloween movie. You just keep going and going. And there's a Friday at 13th, Part 8, Jason takes Manhattan. It's a good movie.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Police Academy's six. Oh, is that city under siege? This is the only sequel that actually, like, really had legs, I feel like. I guess back to the future, too, but, you know. Back to Future 2. But, you know what I mean? Like, out of, like, the, we're just trying to grab cash for one more. This one actually was good.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I wonder whether you can make the argument that this is the, like, the sequel of all of those that you just made. This is the one with the longest, the longest legs. Like, this is the one that lasted. It still has the most kind of like a hold on people who watch movies. I had this for my Stephen A. Smith-Hanness Take Award. Is this the best number three movie? Because I feel like we've argued about this before. Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 00:57:44 And Jedi. And we have Lethal Weapon Three. I might prefer international Mobiary to this. Godfather Three. There's been some good threes. It's in the conversation. This might be the three with the longest legs. I think it's really, it's a beloved movie, right?
Starting point is 00:58:01 That's the thing is forget about, like, qualitatively. Like, people just fucking love this movie. Avengers Infinity War. That's like number 18. Yeah. And it's not even, it's not the number three. It's a great movie. Avengers is...
Starting point is 00:58:13 It's the third Avengers movie. Those are, like, comic book people? All right. Get out of here. Well, one thing about Back to the Future 2. Not a huge fan of three. Back to the Future 3. Not a huge fan of it.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Is that the Wild West one? Yeah, that sucked. It, it... Would you say that Back to the Future, too, I don't think it's held up nearly as well as Christmas vacation. But it's got the sports book stuff. It's got the sports book stuff. It's got the fucking shoes, the hoverboards.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I feel like it has a kind of a special place. I love to. I hope we do that. I like that movie. I do not acknowledge three. One more of what stage the best is just the electrocated cat, electricated cat, which they almost cut out. And the test audiences loved it and they kept it.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And it's just the cat going through the floor. That cat has a tough run in this movie. Yeah. Starts in a box. As you know, I was delighted because I hate cats. We're going to take a break. Shots fired at Mel. This episode is brought to you by McDonald's.
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Starting point is 01:00:27 I love Mullah Kliqa. That's a huge, huge song in my house growing up. That's mine. What do you got for great shot, Gordo, Chris? I enjoy the network homage when they shoot Brian Doyle-Murray down at the other end of the conference from table. He's just like, just leave it there. Yeah. I like the closing credits.
Starting point is 01:00:45 It stays on Clark, and he's staring up, and it's like the end. And it's like, man, this is staying a long time. It pans back and snots is like one inch away from his crash. It's sneaky. That is sneaky. I bet Gordon Willis loved that shot, too. Gordon was like, this funny stuff right there.
Starting point is 01:01:07 The Madler Rubin Award for Did this movie Need a Better Sex Scene? Yes. Yes. I'm going to say hell yes. Beverly DeAngelo is begging for in the night going soon. She's like, let's keep this rolling, guys. Let's go rated our right now.
Starting point is 01:01:20 What the fuck are we begging for? She's ready to go. Oh my God. She's frisky. She's got them in the nap. It would be great if they had, if Chevy Chase and Beverly DeAngelo had done the sex scene from Sea of Love.
Starting point is 01:01:35 She has him up against the wall, mounting him from behind. What are you looking for? Sparky. That's a genius of the movie, though, is that he's constantly being drawn in by these supermodel women, but his wife is so fucking hot. Butch's girlfriend award weeklink of the film. Well, we got to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Russ's kids went backwards in age. The kids have changed every movie. I think it's like a bit at this point for they're making it but um so there's a uh I was gonna save this from my Stephen A Smith
Starting point is 01:02:08 I stake which is really more of a theory than a take yeah but Sean and I love this horror movie called speak no evil did you ever see that? Yeah is there a chance that the Griswolds
Starting point is 01:02:17 are like the speak no evil couple who are just replacing their children every four years oh god and renaming the laundry that's dark that's fucked up that's like that's
Starting point is 01:02:29 that's dog that's dog That's what the movie's That would be an amazing reveal It's like the new Audrey Yeah That's really funny We found her at Mount Rushmore
Starting point is 01:02:40 And he's like Audrey look different All right You look like that girl from Cape Fear So I'm gonna rank the kids I think we all probably have the same rankings right I wasn't prepared for this but go ahead Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:51 I actually like Juliet at Lewis as Audrey the most out of the three Audrey For sure I agree And I'd have Dana Barron second Who went on to date Brandon Walsh and Adam 2nd and then the one from Euro vacation third. Anthony Michael Halls.
Starting point is 01:03:07 The best Russ. I would have the Christmas one second. Galicki's good. Yeah, Galucky. And then Jason Live is just last. Just keep adding Rusties. I still have them last. And then Ethan Embry is third you'd have?
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah. Who's, I don't remember. What actress plays the daughter in Vegas? I don't remember. I don't remember either. Yeah. I didn't even feel like looking it up. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:03:34 What's aged the worst other than Randy Quaid in real life? In 2003, NBC aired a spin-off called National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation 2, which featured Cousinetti's family on a Christmas vacation in the South Pacific. Randy Quaid, Miriam Flynn, so that's the couple, plus Dana Barron,
Starting point is 01:03:53 who's the original Audrey, reprised their roles. The original Audrey? The original Audrey came back. And Ed Astner and Fred Willard was Samarana. I either saw this and blocked out of my mind or never knew about it, but this movie exists.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Wait, so, Chris, there's no Clark, too. There's no Clark. It's a Cousinetti movie. But Audrey would be like, I guess I'll go on this South Pacific cruise. Maybe they run into her on the cruise ship. Okay. Just passing along. Any other What Stage's the Worst, fan? I was going to ask the question. I'm fascinated with things that have culturally expired. Has,
Starting point is 01:04:27 it's a wonderful life as the defining Christmas movie every single year. Has that culturally expired. This is a great question. When I was, this is the private Benjamin question. When I was, yes.
Starting point is 01:04:37 When I was a kid, like, they would run it, by the way, when we were talking about Christmas movies, I forgot about a Christmas story. Like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:44 black Christmas, same director as a Christmas story. Yeah, but like when I was a kid, there was like a whole block of It's a Wonderful Life over and over and over. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And you could not have Christmas without it. It's a grandma movie. I haven't seen it in a long time. It just seems like it kind of fell out of the cultural, set it aside as a Christmas movie it's literally one of the 50 greatest movies ever made it is I encourage you to revisit
Starting point is 01:05:06 it is amazing it is touching scary weird like it is not this like hackneyed cliche sentimental gloppy thing like the one second of the movie that we see in Christmas vacation is what everyone thinks it is that's not what it is and it's very it feels
Starting point is 01:05:22 very modern because of the idea of it but setting all that aside it was like a major major major major post-war movie in America it's 1946 and it's America looking for a more hopeful future, we're really far from that now. You know, we're 80 years on from that movie, so it definitely doesn't have.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I don't think it sits in the same cultural space that it did when we were kids. I also think it's a consequence of, I have this very distinct memory of whenever I would go home from college or, like, when I was living in New York, and even back then, it was still kind of like, we only have, like, 10 channels, 15 channels.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And if they're showing its wonderful life, that's just what you were watching. You know, if they're showing Ten Commandments, it's just what's on TV, for the next two days. And now you're like, I'm going to go watch Top Boy. I'm going to go watch Yellowstone in my room,
Starting point is 01:06:08 call me when dinner's ready kind of thing. I think it's like a consequence of like there's just too much for people to choose from so they're not like going back to the same movies on the same day together. Did you ever see Jimmy Stewart did the poem about his dog on the Tonight Show? No.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I haven't to send it to you. Okay. It's one of the greatest moments in the history of network television. Do you know what I'm talking about? I don't. I have no idea. So look that up on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Is Castaway a Christmas movie? I mean, under the fucking diehard definition, I would say it is. He goes away in the holidays. He says, I'll be back. In the spirit of Christmas, sure it is, Bill. Yeah. We're just never going to agree on this. I feel like Elf has replaced.
Starting point is 01:06:52 It's a Wonderful Life. I feel like Elf is the movie for the current, like, under 40 generation. We were going to do Elfa. some point. I didn't want to do two Christmas movies in a row. Elf is great. But Elf, we'll do Elf at some point. Elf's got the Peter Dinkwage, Dion Waiters. All time. Just add control. Rename the award.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Was there a better title for this movie? Oh, wait. Can I do one more, what's age the worst? Yeah, let's hear. Clark's credit score. I feel like every movie he's like really over leveraged. Yeah. And he's just like, yeah, don't worry about it. We got travelers.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Don't worry about it. Like, I'm way, like, as long as this thing happens, we'll be able to afford this lavish trip that we're on right now. And this one is really funny with the, like, you would not put an above-ground pool in hoping that you got a bonus. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:49 You know what else? These movies, they really get into workplace violence a lot. He was doing two different people kidnapped, kidnapping bosses. Really, it's like, it's an eat-the-rich commentary that's going on in the National Lampoo situation. The ref, another Christmas movie, featuring a kidnapping.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Yeah, yeah. That movie's bad. Kevin Spacey, where are you at? Was there a better title for this movie? Would you just go Christmas vacation, or do you like having the National Lampoon? I like having a national lampoon. I also, most people probably just refer to it
Starting point is 01:08:23 as Christmas vacation. That's what we do. Best quote, I like when he says, Christmas is about resolving differences and seeing through the problems of petty life. I think that's pretty much true. Clark says that near the beginning.
Starting point is 01:08:37 What do you have? Anybody else have a hottest take? I disturbed you with mine. I had my, is this in the running for best number three sequel? Okay. It's certainly one of the most rewatchable. You have any takes or not? Not really.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I don't know if it's a take. I was hinting at it, but I feel like it's the best Chevy Chase dramatic performance. Oh. Like, you really believe the crisis of Clark in the movie where he's like, because of what Chris was saying, He's like over leveraged on a pool in his house, but he's like,
Starting point is 01:09:03 we don't have enough money in the bank to get through this. The movie at some point, and maybe I've watched, this is the third time I've watched it this Christmas. We watched it twice when I was in Baton Rouge, my mother and my grandmother. At a certain point, it gets weirdly, oddly touching. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Like, there's a scene where after he's talking to his niece, and, you know, they're talking about Santa Claus, and he goes, I can't even afford to be an elf. And you're like, fuck, man. Like, this guy, has hinged this big thing for his family. He's out of these dreams. It's like kind of an American thing.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yeah. It actually kind of gets there as far as that's concerned. The scene when he gets the, he thinks he's getting the bonus check, but he gets a lifetime to jelly. That was a little good times, James Evans-ish, where he thinks something good is about to happen in the whole family's around him. Oh, it's going to happen, Dad. And then he gets kicked in the balls.
Starting point is 01:09:55 We don't do Christmas bonuses here at Spotify. Like, is the Christmas bonus in the Christmas bonus? corporate America thing that people are still like, I don't know what my bonus will be and it will arrive on December 22nd. It's usually set in a contract. Yeah. Well, like, I knew guys that had them,
Starting point is 01:10:10 but they were all like these weird old financial dudes. Yeah, they're all like, I have to buy so much cocaine now. My bonus was an apeal. Casting what ifs, Chris Columbus was supposed to direct the movie and had a personality clash with Chevy Chase. Yes. It was not... You don't say.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Not undifficult as an actor. And even for as much as we obviously love this, movie. It's interesting to read the John Hughes stuff around the time of the film and afterwards where he's like, yeah, this has kind of become just like a Chevy Chase vehicle thing. Like it's not it's not like what it was in
Starting point is 01:10:43 National Am Poon's vacation where it's like more about the family and stuff like that. Well, it worked out for Chris Columbus because John Hughes is like, here's this other script I have and it became Home Alone. One of the most successful movies the last 40 years. Here's a good one. This isn't a casting what if, but it's a good casting thing.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Ruby Sue, the daughter in this movie, who has the scene with him talking about Santa Claus, was in one other movie that we've done on the rewatchables that came out two years earlier. Can you guess the movie? So, 1987. That's not... No.
Starting point is 01:11:16 What? Say it, Sierra. For sometimes, she looks like newt from aliens, but I know we have none aliens. Was she all dirty in this movie? No. Okay. She was the little girl on Fatal Attract. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Who Glenn Close took to the amusement park. And his rabbit got boiled. Who she boiled a rabbit? So her two big roles were her rabbit got boiled and she got tortured by Glenn Close. And then she's in this movie getting tortured by Cousinetti's sewage leak. I will not be ignored. That's that guy. Brian Doyle Murray's not of that guy.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I'm not going to know. He's an ex-one in this movie. Nicholas Guest? Doris Roberts isn't of that guy? No. Nah. William Hickey. We did the last time.
Starting point is 01:11:58 He's William Hickie. Who's the guy that... Wasn't William McKee nominated for an Oscar? Yeah. Who's the guy that's Clark's... Sam McMurray. Sam McMurray, I thought. His big Simpsons.
Starting point is 01:12:07 His buddy, his college. Yeah. He's a huge... That guy, right? Sam McMurray. I didn't know his name until I looked it up for this podcast. Is he his voice on The Simpsons? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:17 He resembles... I'm gonna ask you, because I don't know him from this. There's another movie that I feel like he's more etched into my mind from. Is he more of a bad guy in another movie? Yeah. There's another movie. He's the voice of Duff Beer. Oh.
Starting point is 01:12:33 On The Simpsons. I feel like he plays the police or something like that. And there's another movie that I know him from. It's not this one. IMDB says we know him from Raising Arizona. That's it. Raising Arizona. That's it.
Starting point is 01:12:45 That's the movie. Yeah. That's the movie I know him from. Yeah. And JLD's husband, whatever. Nicholas Guest. Yeah. He's that guy.
Starting point is 01:12:54 What else has he been in? I assume he's related to Christopher Guest. I'm not sure. I didn't do my Nicholas guest research for this episode. Dionne Waiters. I mean, Cousinetti. Oh, I have JLD. Over Cousinetti? Eddie's in too much of it.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Eddie's fucking Clay Thompson in this movie. I think it's JLD. That's pretty good. What about Nicolette Scorsese has married the sales quirk? So I was trying to do some research around this young lady last night. Not related.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Not related to market. On your word computer? Not related. Incognito mode? Incognito mode, Phenisie? No, no verification. on any of those questions. The one image I could find
Starting point is 01:13:32 of her not from this movie was a series of paparazzi photos at a movie premiere and she is on the arm of a young Sean Penn. And it says Sean Penn with date, Nicolette Scorsese. Did you watch the Sean Penn
Starting point is 01:13:48 on Bernthal's pod video? Of course I did. Oh my God. Incredible stuff. I like, I really like John Randolph in this movie, Chevy's dad. Yeah, he's good. I didn't know anything about him.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I'd seen him before. I didn't know if he was that guy or young waiters or whatever, but he's got a really interesting story. He was a blacklisted actor who had a career in the 50s, and then he and his wife refused to testify during Houseland American Activities didn't work for 15 years. And then in 1966, John Frankenheimer grabs him, and he's like, you know, he was somebody who was trying to resuscitate the careers of people
Starting point is 01:14:21 after that, put him in this movie called Seconds, and then he works as a character actor for like 30 more years. Wow. that's a movie in it of itself really interesting story so J.O. Day, we're going for cousin. That's my that's my own. Our DM winners. Recasting couch,
Starting point is 01:14:36 2023 version, who would you have as Clark? This was so hard. When I tell you that I couldn't really picture somebody. Would you do Will Ferrell? Just call it a day? You could, but I kind of think he's too old. He's too old and he's oddly
Starting point is 01:14:52 too goofy. Can I go sideways with a with a brainbreaker? Could Chappelle do it? I think he might be too old. Well, he's only 50. What is Dave Chappelle's? Around the same age?
Starting point is 01:15:05 Is Clark 50 while cutting the turkey? I looked this up. Chevy Chase's born in 1943. He's about, he's like, he's, he's around 50. That's what I was thinking. I always thought Chappelle as an actor was like, yeah, that's like 46. Yeah, yeah, 40s.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I just wanted more Chappelle acting, you know. Yeah. Like he could have been in a movie like that. I don't. He doesn't do anything. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Yeah. Chappelle's smoking a sig, like putting Christmas lights on. I don't know. I like it. Will Ferrell's 56 and Chappelle is 50. So who's an actor who's, I mean, the person who I think is actually trying to have Chevy's career in a weird way is Ryan Reynolds. Oh, that works. You know, like, he's, that's the comic tone.
Starting point is 01:15:44 He can't do that stuff. But, like, but that works. He doesn't have the every man quality. He did a beard. No. He's too jack. He's essentially like Fletch with a suit on. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:15:55 John Hamm now? He's a little too old, too. Yeah. Ben Affleck? Too old. I guess he's too old. That's the thing is, who is... Christmas Vacation, presented by Mint Mobile.
Starting point is 01:16:06 That's the thing. It's like, who's in the age range right now is like Ryan Gosling, you know? What's that Chris Evans' age range, right? Yeah, exactly. Oh, have you guys seen American fiction? Yes. Sterling K. Oh, great call.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Like, Sterling... He's too old, too. He's in his 50s. I don't know, but it's the whole black thing. So, like, he could be anywhere from 35. He's 47. Yeah. Right. So Sterling, to me, court, I love you. I love Jeffrey. I love Tracy. All my peeps.
Starting point is 01:16:32 The single best thing about American fiction, to me, he's hysterical in the movie. Sean and I were talking about the other day. Like, most people would have had him in the lead role and Jeffrey Wright in the other role. Flipped it around? Yeah. Interesting. But the move was to do what... Jeffrey Hilded it. But Sterling, he's so funny in the movie. There's a cutaway to him on having a phone call with his brother in the movie that is a... super funny when he's in Arizona, yeah. Half Fass Center in Research,
Starting point is 01:16:59 the old Dodge pickup that tailgated Clark in the beginning was also used in overboard, and they live. I love this. The stories that Dodge Pickup could tell. Wow. Chevy Chase, when he flips out and starts punching the decorations in the front lawn,
Starting point is 01:17:15 he actually broke his pinky finger when he punched Santa Claus, which is why he started kicking stuff because he was mad, he got hurt. So when you watch that again, he punches Santa Claus, breaks his pinky, like, ah, and just starts kicking stuff. And it might be real and not totally in the script.
Starting point is 01:17:30 That's the Jaden McDaniels right there. Yeah. Chris mentioned his cousin at his shoes are the same ones that he gave Clark as a gift in the original vacation. They do a little callback. And then the soundtrack, there's some good stuff with it. Holiday Road for some reason is not included. Maybe they didn't want to pay for it. But the opening song has had a whole.
Starting point is 01:17:55 History in high school musical. It's just a bunch of the stuff. Made of Staples, right? Yeah, and there was a bootleg soundtrack that came out that wasn't official that exists. And there's like 10,000 copies of it and people have it. Really? There's a great Ray Charles Christmas song in this movie. And then the score is by Angelo Baudillamenti, which is the weirdest thing ever because his whole career is basically David Lynch movies.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Yeah. You know, he did Twin Peaks. He did Blue Velvet. and Christmas vacation. It's a very unusual pick for the composer. And then our girl Beverly DeAngelo improvised grabbing Chevy Chase's crotch when the SWAT team held up the house.
Starting point is 01:18:35 I'm telling you, man, she was upset. Yeah. She got like in shape. She was like, might get at least get a shower scene? They're like, no, no, no, we're going PG this time. Yeah, they changed the whole thing. They didn't come back to it.
Starting point is 01:18:47 And then after this, she has maybe like five or six years of being a sexy Hollywood actress and then it kind of just like dissipates. Well, she jumps right from this movie to a classic that has not been on the rewatchable yet, Pacific Heights. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Yeah. The tenant from hell. When? I'm putting, oh, that's, I'm putting that on the, on the calendar. I watched flight again, by the way. Flites now, like, loom. Flates hanging over.
Starting point is 01:19:14 It's circling the runway now? Yeah. Upside down. Outside down. It's inverted. It's upside down. Apex Mount. Nobody in the cast.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Being trapped in the attic? Does it ever work better in a movie? Everybody's worst fear, right? Oh, shit. Trapped in the attic and they close the thing. That's where some of the craziest shit happens is in the attic, yeah. The jelly of the month club? I don't think it's ever been better.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Okay. He begs mountain for the jelly of the month club. Christmas lights, I'm going to say, yes. Yeah, I have Christmas lights for sure. 35 years of Christmas lights. Can we just... I'm... My thinking is taking me here.
Starting point is 01:19:50 There's been a lot of accomplishments in Chicago. 899 Christmas in Chicago Has it ever been better? Yep, MJ crushing. Suburban Chicago. How are the Hawks doing?
Starting point is 01:20:04 I'm not a big hockey guy. I don't think the Hawks are doing great. What else is going on? Well, Kevin McAllister's stuck home alone and Clark Griswold's got the fucking lights up. It's the Christmas town. We're on the fumes of the 85 bears,
Starting point is 01:20:18 you know? Yeah, we're still talking about Walter Payton. It's pretty good. Obviously, Home Alone is right around the corner. I think for Chicago, you can make a case. I think we litigated this before, that 85, 86 was the peak. Right. Is it 85 Bears?
Starting point is 01:20:32 This peak. Yeah. 85 Bears, they get Jordan, Ferris Bueller. All the Hughes movies are adjacent. It's a good argument. Septic tanks? Septic tanks getting empty in the street? Definitely.
Starting point is 01:20:46 There's a lot of learned about them. They know what it was. What is the top of Christmas movies? For me, it is. But everybody's... You know what's crazy? As we've been sitting here naming Christmas movies, now,
Starting point is 01:20:56 there's more competition for the top spot than I thought that there was because the Christmas story is one of my favorite movies of all time. I didn't even think about it, but I still would put this one as my number one. What about Tyler Perry puts a star in the tree? Did you see that one yet?
Starting point is 01:21:08 No, I haven't. Like, here's the thing. And Bill, I want you to be careful because, because, all right, I'm just making title jokes. All right, Maxine's boy.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Like, like, no. No. But no, it's my favorite Christmas movie. It would be really a good category would be like, how could this be a Tyler Perry movie? But you, it's... Tyler Perry's Christmas bonus. It's a good category because, like, all of his movies,
Starting point is 01:21:43 they almost get there to a point to where you're like, oh, shit. And then it's like, it's Tyler Perry. He knows what he's doing. But, like, basic instinct could be like, Tyler Perry's I fucked a serial game. But here's a thing about the movie though. But here's the thing about the movie though. Here's the thing. The question is
Starting point is 01:21:59 when you do the Tyler Perry part of a base in, while the way, Tyler Perry tremendous success. I gotta say that. You think he's listening? Okay. He's literally doing the Scrooge McDuck into the gold coins thing right now. He's doing it. I love Tyler. He's the thing. Whenever you think about making a movie into a Tyler
Starting point is 01:22:16 Perry movie, you have to think about where Medea fits in. Yeah. So the question is, if you do Tyler Perry's basic instinct, where do you put Medea into that movie? She's in the interrogation chair, uncrossing her. Oh, my God. So Medea should be the woman that she's dancing within the nightclub.
Starting point is 01:22:38 She's Roxy. She's Roxy. That's dope. That's dope. Gavril you usually. Let's have a little talk. Man to man. What is he going to say in the bathroom?
Starting point is 01:22:48 Medea pulls out to 22. I just watched it. Douglas is naked for 48 seconds for reasons that remain unclear. He's just like, I'm going to walk around my ass out. Like, that movie to me was that that was my awakening right there. Yeah, basic instinct.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Yeah, my mom was talking about it. She went and saw it and she was saying all of this stuff. I was like, that didn't really happen. Medea's Gene Triple Horn. Gene Triple Horn is throwing heat in that fucking movie, guys. The movie's amazing. We did a rewashed. Gene Triple Horn is throwing heat.
Starting point is 01:23:17 It could be a good live one. I kind of closed it down. Like, I can't imagine ever, like, topping what Mal did on that pod. It's kind of like Ryan on the town. Like, it's, like, we, that one's in on Mount Rushmore. Yeah, we're never doing the town again. Yeah. I just sent Rosillo and Chris.
Starting point is 01:23:31 There was a picture of Blake lively at Taylor Swift's birthday party. And I sent them the picture with the text. I got Shina, baby, sit. I'm going out for Taylor's birthday. Tyler Taylor gets sick B's tickets. She's got sick chief's tickets. Pickin'nits. Would they really just all go to breakfast without Clark?
Starting point is 01:23:54 What happened there? Yeah. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Clark's not going when they leave him in the attic? Yeah, they leave in the attic. He's in his pajamas, everybody else is dressed. Hughes rips himself off, like, one year later with Home Alone. Like, you really leave in the house without your kid.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Yeah, maybe that's where I got the idea. There's a full moon from December 18th to December 24th. Just going to point that out. Usually that's not how full moons go. There are also no mountains in Illinois. Great point. Is there anywhere to even go downhill? They go twice to the mountain.
Starting point is 01:24:22 They shot in Colorado. Yeah. So, yeah. Any of the pickin' hits? Oh, the, obviously the, the tree. The tree is bizarre. Are you going to uproot a goddamn tree out of the frozen ground? I got another one, too, that related to trees.
Starting point is 01:24:34 The second tree, you know, the squirrel? Squirrel's not jumping out when you're bringing the tree in the house. Swirls are the jumpiest creatures of all time. True. Was that squirrel sleeping in there? Getting away. That's not happening. I mean, we could pick that.
Starting point is 01:24:46 It's a comedy, but you could pick that. It's like, you couldn't slug. fly down that fast and go that far and end up at a Walmart. I'm not going to do that. Sequel, prequel, prestige TV, all blackcast are untouchable. I think we've broken that down, like, every way to you could. Yeah, Medea's Christmas bonus. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Love it. Blair Underwood is Clark. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trao, Catherine Hahn, Steve Buscemi, Sam Jackson, J.T. Walsh, Byron Mayo, or Philip Baker Hall. I was looking for someplace to put Byron here, but the SWAT team busting and at the end is just pure Wayne Jenkins. God damn Clark.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I didn't know I was with Super Kidnapper. You're like Paul Dano and then yet to be released in a new movie, Prisoners. And what's with all these senior citizens hanging out in your living room? You got the fucking cast of cocoon in here. And motherfucking Diane Ladd. You better let your boss go. Are you going away long? I'm going away long time, big boy.
Starting point is 01:25:47 It's now just about the volume. The intensity, it's like the heat. Heat waves. Wait until Wayne Jenkins checks in on Ted Lee and he says moving the Wizards to fucking Virginia. House says that's not happening.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Okay. Yeah. I mean, I know he'd be more concerned with the Ravens, but... Just what Oscar, who gets it? Chavs. Who? Chevy.
Starting point is 01:26:13 You want to go Randy Quaid, supporting? Who won supporting actor this year? In... So that I've been that... Like, who did you do it? 1989? Where do you have to beat?
Starting point is 01:26:23 Isn't that driving Miss Daisy here? Oh, whatever could beat that. Please let it win. Okay. Now, they always do this when you look up the 1989 Oscars and then it shows them wrong. Because it's like 1990. That's some point in my life. I'm going to figure that out.
Starting point is 01:26:39 All right. This is going to be sick. Yeah, it's Denzel and glory. Can you imagine if fucking Randy Quaid from Christmas vacation beat Denzel and glory? And then Bill was the only. the guy who was like, yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 01:26:55 Love that guy. You could have got a nomination. This is a good, this is a good Oscar. Driving Miss Daisy is awful, but it's born on the 4th of July, dead poet society, Field of Dreams, My Left Foot for Best Picture. And then you've also got its crimes at misdemeanors that year.
Starting point is 01:27:10 It's do the right thing, obviously. Sex Lies. Honestly, I... Randy Quaid in vacation is just as good as Dan Aykroydon driving Miss Daisy. I was going to say, Marlon Brandon in a dry white season. When was the last conversation?
Starting point is 01:27:23 I have never seen that movie. Tyler Perry is a dryway chasing. A dryway season is good. I've never seen it. Yeah. Yeah. This is the first I've ever actually heard of it. I've never seen it before.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Criterion collection, checking out. This was the year that Michelle Pfeiffer did not win for the fabulous Baker Boys, which is a top 10 Oscar crime. To be honest with you? Terrible. Michelle Pfeiffer maybe not. But that portrayal, all-time minted Hall of Fame, White Girl. Love it. On top of the piano.
Starting point is 01:27:54 She should run this big boy. Probably in answerable questions. Why didn't we have more Griswold movies? Especially as Chevy's career started a drop in the 90s. I feel like they could have pumped one out like every three years. We could add an Easter movie. We could have done Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Feels like they just could have kept this going. I mean, people don't like working with him. He's not a nice guy. He's really not a nice side. He's a comic genius. He was, and you know what? It's interesting with his career because as long as he was, it's like anything else. They put up with the asshole and sorry to say it like that, but that's the word,
Starting point is 01:28:32 they put up with the asshole for as long as the asshole is hot, and then the first opportunity they get to not do it anymore, they bailed. That's what happened to him. He would keep getting like, oh. You're signaling Chris right now. I'm not part of Vance coup. Did Todd and Margo stay married? after this, after this holiday week.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Divorce. They don't have kids. They don't have pets. She seems really fed up with him by the end of us. I think it's over. And I'll be honest with you. Todd didn't really do nothing. Nah. Todd sucked.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Go over to the house and yell at him. But, I mean, what? For what? He's going to stand up for his house. I know. Stand up for his house. I think that it's underrated how fucked up it is when Chevy's like bend over and I'll show you.
Starting point is 01:29:18 That's the one. your wife and I'm wearing a ski mask or a hockey mask and weaving a chainsaw on it? The guy's got a chainsaw on his fucking hate. The fucking cops are getting called. Yeah. Any other in answer rules? We did everything, right? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Best double future choice has got to be the first vacation. I would pair these together and that's a fun three hours and 40 minutes. Or home alone. Or home alone. Yeah. I like four Christmases just because totally it's pretty similar to this or it's in the same ballpark. The Indian Reds-Oat-Nay Award for
Starting point is 01:29:49 what happened the next day. Did Clark ever get the pool? They go under construction? Probably happens, right? 20% on top of that bonus. Well, the better question is like when Brian Doyle-Marie gets back and talks to his CFO about bringing the bonuses back, you know, and he's just like, can't do that. And he's like, all right. He's like, here's what happened. They kidnapped me, but I realized that was wrong. I mean, that little decision is going to cost him a couple million dollars.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Yeah. A lot of people working for him. What piece of memorabilia would you want from this movie, Van? I want the fucked up sled with the silicon sleds. Yeah, I want the silicon sleds. I want the silicone sled with that iconic for me. I was thinking Bear's hat. Bears hat's great. Just because he wears it for the first half of the movie.
Starting point is 01:30:26 But the sled's a good one. What do you got? I like Clark's Tasmanian devil coffee mug in the office. And then he's got the Wally World bug that he has around the house. Also, Blackhawks jersey is pretty good. The old school Blackhawks jersey he's wearing. Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson. Nobody has an easy holiday season.
Starting point is 01:30:46 I'm about to have a three-person Christmas this year. Me, my wife, and my daughter. Those are the best. And I think the lesson of this is don't invite people over for Christmas. Why do you think I live in L.A.? Make them travel? Got away from all my family. They have to come to be a part of this?
Starting point is 01:31:05 You're like, come on here, like Michael Corleone and Tahoe. I'm here, yeah. It's a large body of water. You got to... Mine is, for dogs. I was hopping your leg. Let him finish. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Who won the movie? Chevy. Agreed. Chevy across the board. We don't have Craig today because he's not here, so we can't get his take. I'm sure he enjoyed it. But we are,
Starting point is 01:31:33 yeah, I wonder if we could just have Craig dub himself in at the end? He didn't die. No, I know. Well, I was excited for his take because he didn't really like the first vacation. Tyler Perry, Craig Hallbeck's funeral. Yeah. Medeos, good to see you guys.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Happy holidays. Happy holidays.

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