The Rewatchables - ‘Night Shift’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan
Episode Date: September 3, 2024The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan are just a couple of ideas men trying to rewatch the 1982 comedy ‘Night Shift,’ starring Henry Winkler, Michael Keaton, and Shelley Long and directed by ...Ron Howard. Watch this episode on our Ringer Movies YouTube channel! Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All right, see, I've said it many times.
Your favorite movies when you were 13 or 14 end up being your favorite movies for life.
Night Shift, 1982.
Michael Keaton comes out of nowhere.
It is one of the more memorable.
We have a new star out of nowhere.
performances. He was also going on Letterman all the time in the early 80s and was a Mount Rushmore
Letterman guest. And CR, he was 31 when this movie happened, probably four or five years late.
It's almost like one of those QBs that they don't become a starter to the 25 and then they're
awesome. And from this moment on, I had Keaton season tickets. Got a little rough a couple times in the 80s.
A lot of vindication with Batman and Beetlejuice and Pacific Heights,
but he's still in our lives four plus decades later.
Night Shift, what does it mean to you?
Because you weren't born yet.
Or you were born.
You weren't going to movies yet.
I wasn't going to movies.
This goes firmly into the category of 80s films that I adore so much
because it actually captures a couple of different themes I love from early 80s movies.
A, square guy getting hip.
B, crazy nights in the city.
Yeah.
C, hey, why don't we start an illicit business together?
And D, like, breaking bad and learning from it.
I love all of the, like, little things here.
And that goes, see, this basically kicks off risky business, Revenge of the Nerds,
after hours, you know, like all of these, like, Dr. Detroit, you know, you could go back and be like,
oh, look at this like nerd square guy gets radicalized by a cool guy and winds up partying for the whole thing.
but Keaton, man, the Keaton thing,
I saw somebody wrote this online.
I can't remember where,
but I thought it was the perfect thing.
It's like, this is the closest thing there is.
Keaton walking on screen and after, in,
Night Shift is the closest thing we have to Eddie Murphy in the bar in 48 hours,
where it's like that kind of debut.
It's like, oh, my God.
But the debut in 48 hours was him in prison singing Roxanne.
Nick Nictalty goes to visit him.
In this movie, it's, you just hear somebody humming jumping jack flash
and then just comes in,
he blows the doors out of the office.
I wrote down,
I was going to do this as the hottest take,
and then I decided it wasn't a hot take.
It's a properly baked,
nice and cool, ready to eat take.
Reggie Hammond, Billy Bazzyowski,
and Brian Flanagan,
are the three funniest movie characters of the 80s.
And Brian Flanagan and Cocktail
wasn't necessarily intentional,
but has brought me the most joy
as we covered when we did the cocktail pod.
But those are the three that stand out.
And I'm sure other people,
what about this?
What about that?
What about that?
Reggie Hammond and Billy Blaze.
Two iconic, this person's going to be in my life
for the rest of my life performances from,
we knew we had a history with Eddie Murphy.
Michael Keaton was bouncing around.
He's a stand-up comic.
He was on the Mary Tyler Moore Variety Show.
This year, he does a Letterman guest spot,
which I watched, which is great.
I would highly encourage people to go on YouTube and watch it.
He comes and he does this whole Bazooka Joe
stand-up comedy piece.
He's just sitting on the couch with Letterman,
but Letterman's like,
you're filming a movie right now in New York.
He's like, yeah, I'm filming this movie called Night Shift.
But he was there to promote,
I think, this TV series
where he's like a parole officer.
It was a comedy.
It lasted six episodes.
I don't even remember it.
But this guy was getting a lot of choms
at the Apple.
And this would happen back then
because we only had three TV channels.
We're only making a hundred movies a year.
And these guys could fall through the cracks
for five, six, seven years.
then it finally happened.
31's not nothing.
And he definitely, when he walks on the screen,
you're like, this is like last chance to loon almost for this guy.
So he comes on and he's just like,
I have to make such an impression on people in that first scene.
And I don't know how much of it was scripted.
I mean, you can tell part of this movie.
I mean, most of the, you know,
this movie was written by Lowell Gans and Bobbleau Mandel
who did a lot of like stuff over the next 20 years
and I was made fun of for citing them during City Slickers,
but are really, really accomplished comedy screenwriters.
and really were very successful for the 80s and 90s.
But I don't know how much they could have scripted Billy Blaze.
So much of that is coming from his just like almost nuclear power that he has inside of him.
And it's such an amazing like grabbing of the mantle.
Like he's like, I'm not going to let this opportunity pass by.
Even though this movie is basically like a Roger Corman movie with a little bit of a Neil Simon play added on to it.
It's essentially supposed to be a trashy B movie, but he makes it into it.
this amazing, amazing experience.
Yeah, it's a top 10.
I can't wait for producer Craig's opinion
at the end of the podcast.
I almost want to go to him now, but I'm fighting it off.
You know, this happens with like Belushi,
in Animal House, and he comes in his blue dough,
and he's one of the reasons that movie blows up,
but he completely steals the movie,
and we knew him.
He was on SNL for, I think, three years before that movie,
but comes in force of nature,
and you're just like, wow, this guy's a movie star.
it's a really rare thing
and it doesn't happen
in the same way anymore
because I feel like we have so much history
with it's really hard to just
kind of come out of nowhere
and be a comedy phenomenon
well it's especially rare
I think also for
it to be a situation
where they allow the supporting character
to take over the movie like that
right?
Because if you get a comedy made now
it's usually because it's built around
Wolf Feral or it's built around
whoever and they're not going to let
like the third guy or the second guy
because he blows Winkler off the screen
with all due respect to Henry Winkers.
But Henry Winker's fine with it.
Yeah, he's good in the movie,
but it's just like, it's like, yeah,
Henry Winkler versus like a tornado
hitting the building.
And so I don't think that they really allow
that kind of stuff to happen as much anymore.
Well, it happened.
Vince Vaughn and Swingers definitely happened.
Yeah. McConaughey and Dazed and confused to some degree.
So it's, you know, it's,
but it's every time he was in,
he kind of owned the scene.
This was different, though.
And this was a combination of what's next for this guy?
Because I now believe he can do anything,
but also like, why did this take so long?
You know, and for me, it was, you know, his next couple movies,
he did Mr. Mom, he did Johnny Dangerously, and he did Gung Ho.
So he basically went two and a half for three.
I kind of like Johnny Dangerously.
And he was doing the Letterman appearances.
He had a little bit of a rough mid-80s,
but then Beetlejuice followed by getting picked for Batman.
And he got picked for Batman.
That was just stupefying.
It was like, what?
Yeah.
It's going to be Michael Keaton, the super funny guy,
because he was in the running probably for funny.
Him and Eddie is the funniest comic actors of the 80s.
It's very rare that we see anything like that today.
Like the closest thing I could think of is something like Chris Pratt,
you know, where he's like on Parks and Iraq and is funny and then gets shredded
and is in Guardians of the Galaxy.
But you don't really see people make that crossover.
as easily anymore.
I was trying to think like if Shane Gillis became Batman,
people would be like, wait,
Shane Gillis is Batman?
That's insane.
That's honestly how I felt about Michael Keaton.
It's like, Michael Keaton's like,
that was the Adam West character on the TV shows.
Even if Michael Keaton is Batman,
that like broke your brain.
But he did a good job.
And then, you know,
he did two Batman movies.
And we've talked about him a bunch.
He has this whole second career
when he's in that Jackie Brown supporting character era.
then he has a real comeback in the beginning of 2010s
with Birdman, Spotlight, the McDonald's movie,
and he's had an amazing career.
We're talking almost a 50-year career at this point.
Yeah, he stays busy.
I think he's obviously, he's in Beetlejuice,
Beedaljuice now or soon.
He's done some prestige TV stuff.
So, like, he's kind of all over the place.
He kind of has a career, sort of like Jeff Bridges
or Jeff Daniels has had where done a lot of different kinds of stuff
and has now settled into, you know,
all those guys have done a lot of like hour-long dramas.
But it's like, it's so interesting to think about this movie kicking off the 80s.
And like, he's just older than Cruz and Hanks, right?
Like, he's a little bit older than those guys.
He's in a bloodbath with Hanks for the 80s.
And he's basically winning at the end of the decade.
He's having a more successful career.
Yeah, then Hanks has the 90s he has.
Yeah.
But almost all of those Hanks roles.
Almost all of those Hanks rolls, like in the 90s, you can kind of imagine Keaton playing, right?
Oh, you could have.
flipped. I don't think he could have been as funny as
Keaton in this movie, but he also does his version of it in Bachelor
Party, which is basically easy. What's the stand-up movie he does?
What's the stand-up movie that? The punchline.
Yeah, I mean, that. Yeah, Keaton could have been that. Yeah, absolutely.
Actually, probably would have been better in that movie. In general,
one more thing on him. So, I'm watching this last night, and my wife,
I have tennis on a smaller TV so she can monitor the
tennis and she's like on doing emails and just kind of farting around having a glass of wine and
she's seen the movie so she wasn't really watching but she was sitting next to me she was doing
stuff and i'm just laughing and i don't really laugh that much when i watch movies i'm definitely
like a silent oh that was funny and like the billy blaze like i'm just laughing throughout the
movie and she's just like this movie what is it about this movie it just makes you laugh i'm like i don't
know man it's been working for 42 years billy plays a radical
out it.
Just like his energy.
The limo scene,
we're going to go through
some of the rewatchable stuff.
But the limo scene when he's like,
watch this and he rolls the windows up.
He's like,
yeah,
we got teenage girls.
We got broads.
And he's like tawny and the cops.
Like I just hit my funny bone
as hard as you can hit it when I was 13.
Yeah,
but he also does like all those like kind of subtle jokes.
Like when he first,
I mean,
I don't want to step on rewatchable scenes,
but when he first meets Chuck.
And there's this running bit of people
looking at Chuck's fiance's picture.
And he's like, nice frame.
That's not like a big line reading.
It's like really like an aside, but it's perfect.
He gets off like 30 sneaky one-liners that you have to have seen this movie a bunch of
times to collect all of them.
I wanted to ask you a little bit about early 80s horn dog comedies.
Yeah, I have it right here.
Put me in the headspace of a 13 year old boy like as you're growing up like at this time.
and like this is where you're getting a lot of like,
I guess,
illicit material because like these horny comedies kind of ruled.
And the whole thing around these movies I remember was like,
how am I going to like,
what angle can I find to see Porky's or to see Revenge of the Ners
or to see any of these movies on VHS or whatever?
Like I don't remember.
I think they all came out in theaters before I even knew about them.
But like in the second half of the 80s,
these were like the, oh my God,
my friend has Kentucky Fried movie.
We're going to watch.
tonight. Like, tell me a little bit about that. Yeah, there's nudity and all of them. Yeah, it's the
son's at Animal House, right? So Animal House comes out and then that shapes the next six years.
But we had, there was the losing virginity vertical. So Shelley Long, who's in this movie,
but was also one losing it with Tom Cruise, which is about, I think they went to Mexico
to try to lose their virginity. There was like the Porkies. I forget, what was the Peewee had to
lose his virginity. You had class with Roblo and Jacqueline Bisset. You'd
private school. So you had that whole genre and you kind of my tutor, you kind of knew what those
movies were. But then there's this other weird era that simultaneously this movie coincides with,
the prostitute movie era, where we have in two years, 82 and 83 only, night shift, trading
places, risky business, best little whorehouse in Texas, which was a top 10 movie of 1982.
You can look it up. And Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. with Dan Aykroyd.
But then you also had World Accord and Garp.
The prostitutes, a huge character in that movie.
And it's just like this prostitute renaissance where these were huge parts for actresses
for whatever reason, right?
Jamie Lee Curtis had saved her career.
Rebecca DeMorne made hers.
Shelly Long, we'll talk about her later, whether her performance worked in this movie.
But yeah, I don't, that I cannot understand, Chris.
It really did give me a somewhat skewed idea of sex work when I was a young man.
Like, just like the guy that was like, man, these gals seem awesome.
Hookers with a heart of gold.
It was a theory for literally forever.
Yeah.
In general, I had all this stuff for 82, which I just think is a bizarre and fascinating movie year
because there's just this shift, right?
Stallone.
First Blood, Rocky 3 becomes the biggest star.
Harrison Ford, Raiders and Blade Runner, same year.
Now we have an A plus plus plus lister.
Spielberg does ET.
Now he's got the crown.
and he's involved in Raiders.
Arnold comes out with Conan,
so now we have Arnold in our lives with movies.
Eddie Murphy, 48 hours.
Michael Keaton and Ron Howard, who directed Night Shift,
they both start their career in 82.
Robin Williams does Garp.
That gets his movie career going.
Sean Penn, fast times and taps.
Cruz is in taps leading a risky business the next year.
And then we have Hanks and Costner,
who's in this movie.
We'll get to him.
And Denzel are all working,
and they're on TV.
or in extra parts and looming and movies,
the movies that the rewatchables,
the popcorn movies,
are about to shift.
Yeah.
We have no idea this is happening in 1982.
Yeah.
And then there's also like this transition from,
it's the 82 is actually this really fun time
because it's not quite the grimy 70s,
new American cinema,
like new Hollywood stuff.
But we haven't quite gotten full Bruckheimered yet in the 80s.
So it's this like weird in between time
where some of the movies have like 70s
bones.
Like this one.
80s entertainment sensibilities.
Yeah.
And there's this mix.
This one, it has a couple scenes that have those 70 bones you're talking about,
like the Christmas party.
Like they actually make a real effort to have the characters connected with each other
and not just go for the joke time after time after time,
which Cheers launch is the same year.
That was one of the reasons I love Cheers so much.
It was a comedy, but they would zag and just have serious sections.
Sometimes they would have three,
minutes with no laughs.
So you have, you're right, it's like all the bones of the 70s, but we're about to move
to this other air.
And then 84 is when everything explodes.
Yeah, you can feel like the higher concept screenwriting, like the idea of being like, well,
okay, like what if these guys who worked in a morgue?
And I think Grazer found this in like a Times article or something like that.
But it was like, these guys were running a brothel out of a morgue.
And it's like that kind of like, you're starting to just sort of like ramp up the, like,
believability and the sort of excess a little bit, but it's not quite at, you know,
what you would get in like 84, 85, 86.
Right.
Well, we also have Henry Winkler in this movie.
Yep.
Cannot overstate what a giant star he was.
He was the Fons.
What would the equivalent now be basically of Ron Howard directing Henry Winkler in a movie
right now?
You can't do it.
I don't think there's a TV show that's as big as Happy Days was.
These were the two biggest characters on the biggest show since match.
Jeremy Strong directing Karen Culkin or something.
Yeah.
Succession was three times more popular.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't really.
I mean, the Fons was, for whatever reason, the coolest guy of the 70s,
even though the Fons actually looked like Henry Winkler and how he looks at this movie.
It's an amazing optical illusion.
It's so funny to watch this now because most people probably listening to this,
the last experience they've had with Winkler is probably Barry.
Barry.
Oh, yeah.
And, you know, to go back and try to imagine, and Chuck is not unlike the character he plays in Barry, but to go imagine, like, Henry Winkler being the coolest guy on television.
And this going against the grain a little bit on that is really, is fascinating.
He was by far the coolest guy in television.
People had lunchboxes and posters, and they said correctamundo and A.
And, I mean, it jumped the shark started on Happy Days when Fonzie Waterskied over sharks.
on an episode.
He was a massive,
massive, massive star.
And Ron Howard was, too,
when Ron Howard left,
which was probably this year,
he left Happy Days to do Night Shift.
He hosted S&L.
And he was trying to break out.
When he left Happy Days,
it was like, you motherfucker,
you're gonna leave Happy Days,
you shithead?
Fuck you.
Like, that was the attitude.
It was like, we loved,
what was his,
what was his,
Ritchie Cunningham?
He was originally Opie.
Oh, Richie Cunningham, yeah.
Yeah.
But Winkler said, I thought I'd play
Ritchie Cunningham for once
when he wanted to do this movie.
His movie career never got going.
He did this movie called Heroes,
which was like a lost Vietnam movie
where I forget there's a couple good people in it.
I think Harrison Ford's in it.
Really?
Never made it.
It's probably buried in the bowels of Pluto or Tooby.
And then he did the one and only,
a Jimmy Kimmel favorite,
where he's, it's a Carl Reiner movie.
I think he's a wrestler, and then that didn't hit either.
And then he just stayed on Happy Days.
This was his last chance with movies, and Keaton became The Breakout.
And then I don't know what happened.
He left Happy Days two years later, and that was it.
There's really no other career that I can think of like his.
Yeah.
You become the biggest, most famous TV star, and it doesn't really translate in anything,
but you're also one of the most beloved in Hollywood people.
Like, people fucking love him.
Dancing even had like a couple of big movies, right?
Like, you know...
He led three different TV shows and a curb
and he was in three men and a baby.
Like, he had some hits.
I think Henry Winkler and John Ritter
seemed like they were the two most beloved TV stars in real life.
Like everybody just loved those guys.
Anyway, he filmed this while he was shooting happy days
on Thursdays and Fridays.
He was filming it the other three days.
And then the Shelley Long piece,
this movie comes out in July and Cheers launches
two months later.
Doesn't do that well first year,
but was, you know,
I obviously watched it because it was a Boston show,
but it was an incredible show.
And by the end of the year,
started to get buzz.
It was a little like what happened
with Seinfeld,
and then became the biggest show on TV.
And she famously left after five years
because she wanted to make movies
and became kind of a cautionary tale,
a little like Caruso.
Like, don't leave a good thing.
But her, when you can look back at the 80s,
she's on the biggest TV show of the 80s,
Cheers. She's the star of it for five years, right? She's in this movie. She's in a reconcilable
differences. A movie that I absolutely love. That's the top four divorce movie, her and Ryan or Neal.
She's in the money pay with Hanks, which is beloved. Yeah. Outrageous fortune and true Beverly
Hills. She's in five like high-end movies and a giant TV show. She's a pretty big star. She also
worked with Cruz, Hanks, and Keaton in a five-year span. Who else did that? I know, seriously. And she was
taller than all of them probably. Yeah. I think I got it, you know, I'm 13, obviously developing
crushes on everyone. I always had a sweet spot for her. She's a different kind of star. Like,
she was not like, uh, what we can edit if when we do casting what if. So I'll be really
interested to see what you say. But she's unique as Belinda in this movie. It has a really
different kind of energy. Yeah. Diane Chambers was way more her thing. And Diane Chambers was the
kind of girl I didn't want to have a crush on, but you kind of can't help it. That was got,
was like the whole idea of that character.
But yeah, I don't, what's weird about her, and I'll spoil it when I do my casting
couch for that one, but it's not a lot of people that do what she does, which she did
for like eight, nine years where it's like kind of cute, but super headstrong, really smart,
quick-witted.
I don't, that's not a long list.
Yeah, she kind of reminded me a little bit of like the kind of actresses that would be.
in, I mentioned this before, but like Neil Simon adaptations, like Marsha.
Right, like a chill clover of Mars. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. And then, but then has like this kind
of daffy pop appeal that I mean, obviously worked. She was, she was, she, Diane was a huge character.
You know what I mean? Like, I, I told you this before and it wasn't a joke. I think Sam and
Diane were like the first relationship I was ever invested in. Right. I didn't, I, you know,
my parents got divorced, but other than that, like, I didn't really was, I was 12, 13.
and there weren't relationships like that on TV or movies
that you had to go through the roller coaster ride.
It was like really wanted it to work.
And then there were other ones and other shows
figured out that formula, right?
But that one, the topsy-turvy up and down
of that relationship, I hadn't really seen that on TV anymore.
Ron Howard's first movie is director.
He's done a few rewatchable movies at this point.
And I would say...
And a few still to go.
I would say one of the most successful directors
of the last of 80s,
90s, 2000s, so last four and a half decades?
Did you give them that?
And it's still working, yeah.
Top five or six most successful director.
And then this was also his collaboration with Grazer.
They did a bunch of stuff.
Yeah, they sort of imagine.
Grazer found the story, 1976.
Two city employees in a laborer were charged with operating a call girl ring out of a morgue.
And he tried to get the movie made for years and then finally pulled it off and had your guys,
Lowell Gans and Bobblu and Mandel.
Yeah.
Are they both guys?
Boblu is a guy, right?
Boblu and Lowell, both guys, yeah.
Yeah, you love story, you love craftsmanship.
We talked about them during city slickers.
It's like these guys and Bill Goldman.
That's it.
Yeah.
And they banged it out.
8.1 million dollar budget made $21.1 million.
Sadly,
Raj was not impressed by this.
He was not.
He did not write anything.
He was like, you know what?
no byline for me on this.
They did it at the movies.
Thumbs down from Raj had the quote,
do you really think prostitution is that funny?
It's like, whoa, Raj.
Siskel, thumbs down as well,
wrote about it two stars,
did say Keaton at a superb comic performance.
Based on this one role,
I've now paid to see Keaton in just about anything,
anything except night shift.
We're searching.
When I read that,
I was trying to think of,
other movies where I felt that way about a performance.
I was like, I would watch this person in anything but this piece of shit that I just saw him in.
Right.
I obviously don't think Nightshund was a piece of shit.
But it's a pretty tough order to be like the best thing in a movie somebody doesn't like.
I was disappointed they didn't like it.
I actually, I would have bet on them both doing two thumbs up because Keaton was so good.
I think that I, in my head, I just thought they're going to gravitate to that and that the movie's really well done and well crafted.
But no.
There's something about this.
movie that is like, I wonder if they were reacting to the fact that it's essentially a teenage
movie, but with middle-aged guys. You know, like, it's, it's essentially like a horny comedy and a big
party, but with dudes with jobs. But in some ways, it kind of makes sense because we always talk
about with these early 80s movies, we were like, we remember being kids and how much like free
range we kind of had and like nobody's really watching you. So this movie has some of the same charm
where you're like, nobody's checking on these guys on their late night shift while they're working.
There's no parents home.
Yeah.
We're going to take a break and then we're going to do most rewatchable scene.
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First one, Billy's first scene.
I'm an idea man, Chuck.
All right?
I get ideas all day long.
I can't control them.
It's like, they come charging in, I can't even fight them if I wanted to, you know?
So, I stay them in here.
And that way, I never forget.
See what I'm saying?
Okay, here's an example.
Watch out.
Stand back.
This is Bill.
Idea to eliminate garbage.
Edible paper.
See?
Eat it?
It's gone.
Eat it.
It's out of there.
No garbage.
Got everything in here.
Business ideas, inventions, musicals.
I wrote a couple of musicals in here.
Would you like to see the rest of the office?
Yeah.
So many good lines included the nice frame,
but we get to find out that he's an idea man.
Yeah.
I'm an idea man, Chuck.
Like you, you're an idea man.
That's why I carry the tape recorder.
I get ideas all day long.
I can't fight him.
Then he's like, watch this.
I did eliminate garbage.
Edible paper.
This guy's a lunatic.
Takes him to the morgue.
That guy's dead.
It's just an electric two and a half minutes.
Jump a jack flash, the whole thing.
It's funny.
We've worked together.
for 12 years now or whatever.
And it's like, we've never had a Billy Blaze in the office early.
You know, like a guy who's just like, oh, Billy's here.
You know, that's a miss.
And I blame myself.
I'm trying to think to those people, do Billy Blazes even exist in real life?
I think I get legislated pretty hard.
But like, you know, I think COVID took a lot from us.
And one of them was like the Billy Blaze, like, wow, heat check guy in the office.
Yeah.
I mean, Billy, well, I have some Billie.
Billy's cushions for later.
Next one, his second scene,
he tells a story about counting cards.
And then the tuna fish,
what if we feed of mayonnaise?
Clint Howard shows up.
Yeah.
First of many Clint Howard,
Ron Howard collaborations.
And all of the sudden,
we realize Billy Blaze is now using the morg's limos
as actual limos,
and we're off.
Okay.
Next rewatchable scene.
second run in with the boss's son,
which is my favorite part of the movie,
because we get the guy watching the Flintstones,
which is like, to me, like,
it's on a scale 100 on the,
on the comedy scale,
this is absolute 100.
Boy, that Barney Rubbo, what an actor.
Him just cackling at Flintstones episode.
It's so good.
I love that he's just like a Nepo baby
for the big machine politics.
So his uncle gets him a job, yeah.
And then Bill comes in, does his Atlantic.
city story. The bar me. I'm out. BARD. And then that leads to Chuck snapping and doing the hello,
this is Chuck reminding Bill to shut up. Yeah. And then Keaton, I think it's been easy on me. I'm the new guy.
I got no friends. The new guy. There's like two people. I gave you $100. You didn't even thank me.
Next one is love brokers. Yeah. Pimps, are you saying,
We should become pimps?
Pips is an ugly word.
We can call ourselves Love Brokers.
This is my stop.
You think about it, okay?
I really think this is the one.
Check, I am excited about this.
I mean it.
This is it, I think.
Love brokers.
Love brokers.
You and me, buddy.
They're on the train.
He's trying to talk him into it.
Comes around behind the window.
Love brokers.
And then we go right into the breakfast scene.
Love the breakfast scene.
Shelly Long breaks out the legs.
She's actually like this is not the Diane Chambers side of Shelley Long and Henry
Lakers watching and I don't know.
That whole scene works.
It's good.
They build up some good tension with them.
Winning over the prostitutes with the with the lexia.
You want to take the floor here?
The heavyweight belt.
One of one of like the greatest like pitches, the greatest speeches in cinema history,
the pan as the green chalkboard is there to Bill, he's like, what are we talking about?
Prostitution!
What are we really talking about here?
Huh?
What's the essence?
What we're talking about?
I'll spell it out for you if I have to.
Prostitution.
What are you kidding?
Constitution.
And we can say it.
We're big kids now, right?
You know, a lot of times it will help you to understand a word if you break it down, so let's do that noun, shall we?
Tross, doesn't mean anything.
Forget about that.
TIT.
I think we all know what that means.
Two.
Okay, two.
Tit.
And Shun, of course, from the Latin to Shun.
Say no.
Uh-uh.
Thank you anyway.
I don't want to push away.
It doesn't even belong in this word, really.
So let's get rid of that.
pros.
We can't say it.
We're big kids.
I feel a lot of love in this room.
So at this moment, I think it's important that I see off your breath.
He's just out of his mind.
And then Henry Winker comes in and saves the day.
Please think of us as William and I's business associates.
And we're off.
And right away, we get the trying on close montage, which was an 80s staple.
Do they have those anymore?
Do we have like fun, trying on clothes?
Yeah.
It's all meta now, right?
These ones are not meta back in the day.
And you know you're getting billy trying on some sort of pimpy outfit.
But I love the 80s.
This is like a specific yacht rocky kind of era.
Yeah.
You know the girls don't allow to.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-dun.
Made about you.
Just going.
I probably didn't do a good job in that.
Next one.
Costner's big scene.
The frat party.
Frat party.
in its own, I'm not sure it makes the cut,
even though the Clint Howard and Door Number 12
having sex with somebody is kind of funny.
And Michael Keaton's just, God only knows
what he's doing in this scene.
I feel like Scorsese ripped off
some Wolf of Wall Street from this scene.
Oh, yeah.
It's definitely it's up there.
They let me the fraternity.
But just Costner in the middle of this,
that's Frat Boy number one out of nowhere.
While Keaton's trying to balance a Miller light on his forehead.
And if you were like,
what are the odds somebody else in this scene
is going to become a bigger star than Michael Keaton.
It would have been like, what, a thousand to one?
So anyway, that happened.
Billy's new car practically drives itself, Chuck,
the middle finger through the tinted window,
jumping Jack Flash, which is a huge winner of this movie.
And then he does the Operation Chuck.
I love that part.
I love the Christmas party.
Michael Keen getting a little serious.
And this movie needs a couple of those moments.
This is Chuck.
Call your mom.
And then Chuck confesses his love.
This isn't as rewatchable, but it's a good scene that Belinda shows up for work the same night she hooked up with Chuck.
Yeah.
It's good.
He'll be like, what do you do it?
Yeah.
Katen's like, get out of town.
You two guys!
But it has the I'm not a whore.
No, you're a pimp.
Lowell and Bobblu just really crafting it.
They dial it up there, yeah.
Bill and Chuck in prison have that.
And then Chuck tries to kill Bill in the lawyer's office.
but not as much rewatchable stuff in the last 30 minutes.
So what do you have?
You have the prostitution speech?
The last 30 minutes gets pretty sad except for Paradise Found.
Yeah.
And I want to talk a lot about some of the health code violations going on there.
But the number one rewatchable scene is obviously the chalkboard pitch.
It's a prostitution.
I love Billy's showing off his car.
It's like too many.
I think that's my favorite part of the movie.
And I love the guy watching the Flintstones.
And then the prostitution scene third.
So there you go.
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All right, this is a fun category.
What's the most 1982 thing about this movie?
I think it's the poster.
Oh, the poster.
I had that in what stage the best.
Unbelievable, like Jack Davisy kind of poster.
It looks like a kind of National Ampoons, you know, Rolling Stone cover,
and it's like this cartoon of all of them like pouring out of a car, right?
Yeah, it's really good.
I had some other ones.
A hooker with a heart of gold.
A theme song for the movie from Quarter Flash.
The actual credit original music by Bert Bacharach.
You know you're in somewhere between 78 and 84 with that.
What the hell is happening?
Yeah.
Shelly Long's hair.
that was basically this movie
in a year of cheers
where that hair just
I guess was a look
and now it's you would never see anyone
with that haircut
carrying a tape recorder around
Billy having a Rolodex
on the dashboard of the limo
my wife noticed that
and then the winner for me is Rubik's Cube
Chuck's doing Rubik's Cube
and he has a guide to how to beat you Rubik's Cube
I was like the most so rooted in
1982
with stage the best
you mentioned the poster
I love, one of the things I love about this movie is how Chuck is under attack the whole time for the first like 80%.
The dog keeps coming after him.
People on the subway, he almost gets trampled.
His girlfriend is just awful.
The delivery guy is always fucking with him.
Mr. Carbone, you gotta go over my head?
You gotta go over my head!
The schoolgirls attack him.
The guy leaving an apartment building shoves him.
Like he's just, and you just know the turnaround.
coming and coming and they set it up.
I have, I had your going over my head.
You're going to go over my head as a What Stage the best.
I've never used that. I've never going to want to go to somebody.
I want to tell like Craig to like cut out some of your takes and be like, what?
You're going to go over my head, Craig?
Well, I have more.
Any other What's Age the best for you?
I can't believe it's been 30 minutes.
We haven't talked about the one-on-one game to open the movie.
Oh, yeah.
Guys playing in a rain-slicked alley with a wooden backboard just for the love of the
game and then another pimp
getting thrown out the window
by Richard Belser.
And he goes, you know, tied up in a chair,
goes through the hoop. And it's like
these guys playing for a dollar a dunk.
It's fucking awesome. It's really good.
Good call. Belzer is a bad
guy I had as what's the best.
That's what Friends are for
before it became the actual song. That's what
Friends are for. But as a
kind of score for a movie,
really works well. And then they dropped
the Rod Stewart at the end, which
kind of got overshadowed a few years later
by the Dionne Work version.
Comedy's with a heart.
I like that Chuck's mom goes to a seance
to yell at her dead husband.
I thought it was just a really good touch.
I like when Keaton gets mad
in the barbershop. He's like, I wash my hands,
my feet of you. And then he points to that guy.
He's like, trim that to the guy
with the sideburns. And then
the soundtrack.
Have you really got me by Van Halen?
Which is probably a top three Van Halen song.
Jumpin' Jack Flash live version,
Night Shift,
Girls Know How by The Great Al Jiroe.
The Love Too Good to Last by the Pointer Sisters.
Talk Talk.
Got them in there and Bert Backwreck.
One other what's aged the best is,
I mentioned this before,
these two can go into one category,
which is all the asides that get made in the movie.
But everybody reacting to pictures of Charlotte.
This picture doesn't do her justice.
suffering water buildup.
What does that even mean?
He said she had some disease, too, right?
Or some sort of condition?
Yeah, I mean, I think it's like we could get into Charlotte,
but like I also really love loop egg saying,
don't be snobs.
I used to be a pickle girl here once.
I'm looking up that Al Jaro song.
This just screams 1982, right?
It's just the beginning.
They don't make them like this anymore.
CR? No.
Al Jaro is, now unfortunately he's in that
We Are the World documentary, kind of hammered the whole
time. But yeah.
Okay, I hope that doesn't get
the podcast shut down on YouTube
because I played 20 seconds of that.
Let's go to my last
What's Age the Best. Ron Howard promoted this
on SNL, and he
went on with Rahim Abdul-Mohamed,
which was Eddie Murphy's movie reviewer character.
And Rahim asked, was there any black
people in it. Ron Howard said, no. And Rahim said, I didn't see it then. What was it about?
And Ron Howard said, oh, wow, it's the story about these two pimps. And Rahim says, it's the story
about two pimps. It was no brothers in it. I don't know whether to say thank you or punch you in
the mouth. It just brought the ass down. It's very 80s. Ron Howard, when he was fully
embracing the I'm going to go bald, but I'm still going to do the comb over at the mustache combo.
Ron Howard, incredible cameo in this movie as the sax player. New category.
that you haven't been here for
since Kyle Brandt thought of it
during the Rudy episode, the Fortune
3 Clap Award for Most Giffable
moment. It's got to be love brokers,
right? Yeah, I
think so. Okay.
Are there either that or
the, yeah, it would probably be that
or the guy flying through the window.
Oh, yeah, right, through the basket.
Great Shock Order Award, the Dead Guy going through the rim,
no question. The Denny Thieves
Benny Hanna Award for Scene Stealing
location. If you're not going to go at the mor,
What was the name Paradise Found?
It's like a Plato's retreat kind of place.
You got to look carefully, but there's a guy just floating on a raft,
like kind of a fat older guy, just kind of lying on his stomach, but he's naked.
It's like, why would anyone go in this pool?
They have a lot going on here intellectually.
It's like a Jane and Tarzan themed indoor water park slash sex club.
Yeah.
Which is sounds like...
Should we open one?
The greatest convention of bacteria that I've ever conceived of.
Like indoor water parks alone are already diseased like fountains.
To actually then add orgies into that is an astonishing like public health.
And this is there in the beginning of like the HIV era too where there's just bad stuff going around everywhere.
It's terrible.
This is not the club you would have wanted to open.
Yeah.
Anyway, naked guys in the pool.
The kid cutty pursued a happiness word best needle drop.
It has to be jumping jack flash in the limo.
Yeah, although I really watch out of the highway.
I love when, like, the entire credits gets a song.
Like, with Goet Flash, it's just like, let it, let's let this ride.
Yeah, that's true.
They do let that ride for three minutes.
We'll give them co-winners.
The Big Cohooner Burger Award, best use of food and drink.
Vincent Skiy Avely, taking Chuck's tuna fish sandwich and smearing it on the door.
Yeah.
I took the mustard off for you.
The Butch's girlfriend Award, Weeklink of the film.
you want to go first?
Do you feel like it's Charlotte?
I don't love the Charlotte character.
I had her in what stage is the worst.
I think for me,
I just don't understand why Belinda was a lady of the night.
Right.
I didn't feel like enough damage or...
So you wanted her to have like just a nagging heroin habit?
It just seemed like she easily could have had a job, right?
Yeah.
She never...
There was no drug problem.
Yeah, she had a piece of...
apartment.
Yeah.
Maybe she was just very sex positive, you know?
Good people skills.
I don't know.
It never really added up.
Whereas like in training places with the Jamie Lee Curtis character, I was like,
I could see it, you know?
Well, I mean, I think you could ask this question of several people in this film is like,
why do you have this job?
Right.
Why is Chuck in a more?
Chuck was like an investment banker who then decided to become a mortician.
Yeah, he couldn't handle the pressure of investment banking apparently.
Yeah.
Like go be like a golf pro.
somewhere. You know what I mean? I didn't really understand why he was like, I have to work
right next to time square handling dead bodies. Yeah, it is a little weird. Yeah, the Belinda,
whatever her arc was, I didn't, you just try not to overthink that one. What stage the worst?
The hookers with the heart of gold theme. I don't have those anymore. What was the,
who's the last hooker with the heart of gold? Well, you know, there's a movie coming out called
a Nora that Sean Baker made that's got that. It's basically like,
pretty woman, you know, but I'm excited for that. So we haven't had one of those in a while,
though.
Got to flag it. It's a possible new category because, you know, I'm always watching. I know you
are too. We might be the only two that care, which is why it's not a category. But Shelly Long
smoking cigarettes. Just not believe. I just never bought in. And I think they were doing some
strategic edits out because she was doing, I just never, never bought it.
Billy going, get out of town, you two guys?
Like he didn't see this building for four months.
Was he just in his own world?
And then here's my big Wood Sage's the Warriors.
Billy as an idea guy.
Here are the ideas he came up with of the movie.
Eliminate garbage with paper, edible paper.
Feed mayonnaise to the tuna.
He claimed to come up with washing dries but admitted that it already existed.
Love brokers.
I guess he gets credit for that idea.
and then microwavable clothing was his last one.
And also, I mean, essentially he tries to come up with card counting.
Which already existed.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I'm a little dubious on his idea guy thing.
You have any other what's age the worst?
I think that, you know, Charlotte's weight loss obsession has been, you know, not obviated
by, but is like much different now with those epic and everything like that.
Right.
Oh, yeah, she's just on a Zepic now.
Constantly working out, constantly, like, you know,
and her eating, like, Malamars while they have sex and stuff is like,
you don't see a lot of that anymore.
I also thought, given New York's rental prices,
that it's unlikely that you could afford to be engaged with someone that you're not living with.
So Charlotte and Chuck have separate apartments.
You know, I'm just saying, I mean, like, you don't really see people having separate places and then getting married.
Ruffalo Hannah Rubeneck Partridge overacting a word.
They knew.
and they let it happen.
Don't you call me, lady!
I come in here.
I give these things to you.
Give it all you got!
Give it all you got!
I treated you like a son.
You fucking stand me in the heart.
Fuck you.
I had one for this.
Did you have one?
I didn't actually.
What's it like, what?
I mean, I think Shiavelli somewhat.
Winkler in the, when he's trying to kill Keaton in the lawyer's office.
I'm going to kill you.
You're going to play tennis with God!
He kind of goes for a little bit.
But was there a better title for this movie?
I got one.
I wonder if we have the same one.
What's yours?
Stiffs.
Oh, that's really good.
What's yours?
Love Brokers.
Yeah.
I mean, Love Brokers.
It's like, love brokers is closer to risky business.
Yeah.
The Can You Digget a Word for Most Memorable Quote?
Has to be that Barney Rubble would an actor.
Yeah.
It's just hide a comedy.
Hey, the CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford.
How to Take Award?
you have one?
I think that without Keaton's chalkboard scene,
you don't get Alec Baldwin saying always be closing in Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross.
Direct homage slash ripoff?
I think Pulitzer Prize winning playwright David Mamet.
When he added that into the screenplay for Glenn Gary,
was thinking about Billy Blaze.
Well, this movie forced me to make my Mount Rushmore
for prostitute characters in movies.
Oh, great.
I knew you'd be excited.
I don't know what we call it.
Mount Sex Worker Moore, Mount Hooker Moore, Mount Prostitute more.
I like, I like Mount Hookmore is good.
No, I think it's good.
It's Mount Rushmore.
Oh.
There he is.
From the peanut gallery.
Craig.
You can always count.
I don't know.
Mount Rushmore.
Vivian Ward and Pretty Woman, Julie Roberts.
Lana from risky business, Rebecca Dormorne.
Ophelia from Trading Places.
Jamie Lee Curtis.
And last but not least, Alabama.
I was hoping you were going to say Alabama.
From true romance.
Yeah.
And she might even be the Michael Jordan of this category.
And that leads me to my hottest take.
We're not doing well enough with sex worker characters anymore.
I don't have anybody in that pantheon from the last.
last 31 years. Let's step it up.
I'll take it a step further, is that
the spectrum of
humanity that you get, when they
make the pitch to all the women,
there's a girl looks like Pat Benatar.
You got Lupe.
You got Drew Barrymore's mother
is one of the women. Yeah, Jay Barrymore.
Yeah, like there's so many different, like, ladies
and, like, we're just, like, we've really, like, lost
something, you know? Yeah, I don't know what
happened.
Casting What Ifs.
I don't know if this, this is, I'm
positive, I believe this, but that Kurt Russell and Mickey Rourke
audition for Billy Blaze. I can't imagine this.
I certainly could buy Kurt Russell doing that because Kurt Russell
kind of has, he does a little bit of Billy in Jack
from Big Trouble in Little China. He does.
He does.
He does.
And it's like he has that vibe.
Mickey Rourke would have been really different.
That would have been like Sean Penn doing that role.
I don't see it at all.
You mentioned Jade Barrymore.
One of the other girls was Ola Ray, who ended up playing Michael Jackson's
date in the thriller video.
Oh, yeah.
Super-doper famous.
Now, if that thriller video happens now with the amount of attention it got,
she's probably on social media all of a sudden with 10 million Instagram.
But back then it was like, oh, I'm in the thriller video and then nothing happens.
The Costner as Frat Boy Number One Award for Most Unexpected A-List or Cameo,
a brand new category here in the rewatchables.
And we should have had it a long time ago.
My apologies.
We're not perfect.
We didn't know.
No, he didn't know.
And just in general, the early cameos of people in movies.
This would have gone to Brad Pitt and No Way Out.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't know what we were doing.
Look, we're 354 movies in.
We're still trying to get better.
Yeah.
But new category.
Are you happy with the Costner as Frat Boy No. One Award?
Or just calling it the Frat Boy Number One Award?
Yeah, let's call it Frat Boy Number One.
What do you think, Craig?
Well, we've got to get the word cameo in there, right?
Otherwise, people aren't going to know what it.
Yeah.
It's the Frat Boy No.
number one award for most unexpected A-list or cameo.
I guess Costa doesn't need to be in that.
Yeah, it's easy to remember.
Yeah, I will work at the title.
Hey, the Clint Howard Award for the director loves this guy.
Goes to Clint Howard.
This is great.
People just winning their own awards.
This is like Joe Pants being in the movie kind of thing.
Best that guy award, Vincent Skiyavalli, not eligible.
Joe Spinell, as the leader of Paradise Found,
but also not eligible because I feel like he's Joe Spinell.
Fortunately, Rick the Dick from Bachelor Party is here
as the guy working the desk at Paradise Found.
I don't know if you notice.
Goes on to Bachelor Party having one of the most important scenes in the movie.
I had one other, which is one of the basketball players
in the opening scene is Grand L. Bush,
who you will remember from Die Hard several years later.
He's the one who's like,
I was in junior high, Dicket.
Oh, that guy.
Yeah.
Oh, I was wondering who that.
I forgot to look that up.
That's a great one.
I was in junior high, that kid.
Dionne Waiter is a word.
It has to be Carbone's nephew.
The only other one I had was Shannon Doherty.
Oh, wow.
She's the Girl Scout.
Maybe the two basketball players, yeah.
Yeah.
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All right, recasting couch director or city, we're going to concentrate on Belinda.
I really like Shelly Long.
I am a Shelly Long supporter and fan.
I'm not positive.
This was the right movie for her.
And I was trying to think,
I even went through like three years
of the early 80s box office mojo titles
trying to see if anyone sparked the possibility
for who would have been better.
I mean, the answer probably is Jamie Lee Curtis,
but then she's in.
I have two, but did you have one for her?
I have two, and I worry that I'm a little early on both.
Okay, what is it?
It's Ellen Barkin or Linda Fiorentino.
Oh, interesting.
Too early on Linda for Eurantino.
Barkin?
She's in diner already.
She's in diner.
Yeah, I don't think it's anybody who actually could have been in the movie in 1982,
but if it's like five, six, because my two were,
de me more like seven years later, late 80s to me more, like 1989 to be more.
But my favorite, we just, we have to build the time machine and then transport her from the future.
But Emma Stone, 2003, Emma Stone, we just pull her back to 80s.
This is like a great Emma Stone part, right?
It's like perfect.
And she's kind of played versions of this part anyway.
Tony Romo, Chris Collinsworth, or somebody else for the director's commentary.
Somebody else.
What do you think?
It would be DB.
Oh, you got DB again?
What do you have?
I see you, Mr. Bill.
After years of hard work coming up with the idea for wash and dry, card counting at the
blackjack table.
You've arrived.
on the biggest stage, acting as a love broker.
I also think now my DB is sort of morphing into Mark Jackson.
I remember the first time I did DB and there was 90% fear in your eyes and then 10%
I'm so excited this door has been opened.
Now you're crafting DB model house.
Mine is more simpler and maybe because it's football season starting.
this week.
Sure.
Get caught,
Jim.
This is too risky.
Somebody's
going to find out,
Jim.
Clint Howard's
in a freezer,
Jim.
They're just
running these people
in the out,
Jim.
Somebody's going
to find them.
Half Fess or
research,
not a lot.
Keaton would
blast 10th Avenue
freeze out
to get into
the character
of Billy Blaze,
which I thought
was funny.
This hurt.
In 2019
interview with
Hoda and
Kathy Lee,
they asked him
who his most
annoying
co-star was
and Henry
Winkler admitted
it was showing
long. One of the reasons he gave
was that she would stand in a frame
wrong to tower over him
because they weren't at the same height.
So did she also have a bad rep
on Cheers too?
Again, one of my
favorites. I don't want to speak badly, but I
don't know if a lot of tears were shed when she
left the show. Okay. It was my
feeling. Bill
is shown driving a 1981
Stutz IV port.
There's only like 500 of those, right?
In 50. Oh my God.
They were priced at 84,500 back in the day.
Custom handmade cars built on the Buick-Lessaber, Pontiac, Bonneville, or Oldsmobile, 88 Royal Platform.
They are now worth about $300,000.
Yeah.
Apex Mountain.
Keaton, no.
Although this is his funniest performance in a movie.
It's not Apex Mountain, but he definitely goes up like a few thousand feet in the first.
in the first movie he's in,
he's just scaling the walls.
Yeah.
You can't believe how high
he climbed up the mountain.
You're like, holy shit, man.
You've never done even like a mountain in New Hampshire
before you're climbing Everest.
Winkler, no.
Shelly Long, no, but we're getting close.
Like second year cheers combined with
a reconcileable differences coming out.
It felt like she was going to be like an A-plus actress,
A-plus Lister.
Ron Howard, no.
Barney Rubble, no.
No.
Idea men?
You know, it's the time.
It's like this is the 80s, early 80s New York, the streets were paved with gold.
Yeah.
That's all out there.
You just got to grab it.
Prostute comedies.
No, I mean, it's...
Risky business.
Risky business, although I think this is funnier than risky business.
Risky business is more successful.
Yeah.
I do think you're right that it's funnier, though.
What do you have, morgues?
I was going to say morticians, and I wasn't sure if it was this or six feet under.
six feet under.
Jumping Jack Flash?
No. It's not even
Apex Mountain for that's what friends are for.
No.
This is the easiest cruiser, Hanks, we've ever had.
It's so clearly Hanks.
I also really would have enjoyed watching
like 1988 Tom Cruise trying to be
Billy Blazesowski.
You're like, I need to do a comedy
and just really going for it.
Can you imagine? But Hanks, definitely.
Racehorse, rock band,
and wrestler of fantasy team names.
I have Blazeland USA.
Yeah, or Billy's Blazes.
Something with Billy Blaze.
Okay, picket nits.
Yeah.
So none of our girls are addicted to drugs
or anything bad in any way.
Clean living.
It's a knit.
Also, can I ask,
this is a little bit of an unanswerable question.
I just have to ask because you just brought it up.
Billy's just coked out of his mind the entire time, right?
I had that in unanswerables.
It feels like he's coked up to the gills in every single scene.
Yeah.
It makes more sense.
It's like when whoever told us that Vincent Hanna was on cocaine and heat,
and it was like, oh, I should have guessed it.
Maybe we should have the Vincent Hanno Award for a drug addiction explains this entire character.
Or an unmentioned drug addiction explains this entire character.
Yeah.
That's good.
Nobody ever dies in this morgue.
So this is the biggest
We're in Times Square?
It's New York City
and they're like
the night shift you can just get some reading done
and it's like
that's when all the bodies
would be piling up man
It's 1982 in New York.
Yeah and every other New York movie
at the time people are just dying left and right
There's vigilante movies
everything's going on.
So they get caught and then they just get their jobs back
because the city finds it too embarrassing.
It would be a political embarrassing.
I know.
It's a very convoluted.
That is definitely what.
The girlfriend just disappears
for the second half of the movie,
Chuck's girlfriend.
No questions asked from her.
That relationship just goes out the window,
which makes, you know,
you wonder,
did we need those extra two scenes
with the girlfriend if we were just going to dump
her halfway through the movie?
It would have been an easy cut.
It is funny to the Thanksgiving scene is funny
and like getting all,
like,
almost has a heart attack at court
is pretty,
cracks me up a lot.
Yeah.
I maybe would have stayed at the Christmas party
with the girls longer
because I think that's getting pretty rowdy.
So.
A bunch of ladies who don't have to work that night
having drinks,
paying gifts.
I just think some crazy stuff's happening.
My last nitpick was basically
does Chuck's business plan
make any money
for him and Billy?
I mean,
Billy's buying himself like this, like, unique, one-of-a-kind car, you know, they're rolling in it
by just taking 10%. They have a huge amount of overhead, gas costs to get the girls to the dates
and stuff. Like, where's this money coming from? They're giving it all back to their workers,
which I think is great, but still. 10%. Maybe they could have gone for 15. I think 15, maybe even 20.
Bill definitely wanted that. Yeah. It would have been good. Maybe they boosted the rates up.
But it leads to the other nitpick of how long were they doing this?
because
well I think a month
because it's like Thanksgiving
is when he gets
Belinda out of jail
I think soon after that
they start love brokers
but then they get caught
the day after Christmas day
so it's four weeks
yeah about a month
I just don't think they made enough money
to buy like the car and all that
I know it watches and all that stuff
how were they operating without any muscle
like they still didn't have anybody to be in person
that's the next nitpick
is that Franklin
Franklin's murdered
yeah Franklin
gets killed, all of their girls are now doing jobs for somebody else.
And it takes them five weeks to figure out like what's happening here.
Yeah, well, there were no phones back then.
You know, there were no phones.
I guess.
It feels like we could have solved that in 24 hours.
And then my last one.
So Billy's a big money pimp driving this nice car and things fall through.
And then he's a towel boy at this weird sex place.
That's his next job.
He couldn't have been like a manager.
Like I.
Like, he's just back to the bottom?
Also, why was he like, well, I guess I'm just going to continue in glorified sex work?
Like, well, how did you become a mortician in the first place?
Were there any certifications involved with that?
Like, don't understand that at all.
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV, all blackcast are untouchable.
Can I go here?
Because I have a million dollar idea.
Okay.
We have the two leads of this movie are still alive and kicking.
Still working.
Why are we not doing Chuck is living in a retirement community in Florida?
He's got a...
Billy shows up.
And Billy shows up.
And what do all these old people, all these old widowers want?
Just a little bit of companionship.
So it's basically...
Night shift meets cocoon.
Yeah.
Golden Girls.
Night shift meets cocoon.
At what are those places called?
Like the villages.
Yeah.
The retirement home now.
It's like assisted living.
Yeah.
We can make them a little more.
Everybody's still playing pickleball.
You know, like they're still, you know, ambulatory.
So it's called Night Shift 2, assisted living.
Assisted Humping.
What a great idea, C.R.
It's better than my idea, which is just to make it untouchable.
Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Traos, Sam Jackson, J.T. Walsh,
Byron Mayo, Harling Mays, Evil Laughing, Ramon Raymond, or Philip Baker Hall.
I think it's Byron Mayo.
Byron with multiple exclamation points.
Belinda.
Lupe!
I loved your speech.
Your poem was beautiful.
Why don't we get into one of these freezer drawers?
I was thinking draw number 12.
Bring Sharon.
Just want to ask her who gets it.
Keaton.
Probably in answerable questions.
We did is Billy Blaze on massive amounts of cocaine the whole time.
That might even be answerable because 1982 was
almost the eye of the needle of the cocaine storm of the 80s.
If you weren't on cocaine in 1982, it was suspicious.
You were working nights in 1982 right off of Times Square, but you're just completely clean.
Right.
Franklin and Richard Belser's character, they shot at a couple cops.
What are we thinking for jail time for them?
Those guys are away for like at least two decades, 15 years.
Oh, okay.
So they're gone.
So there's a void.
I mean, couldn't they quietly put that business back together?
They had all the pieces.
Franklin's gone.
The two guys are gone.
You have all the girls.
There are only three other pimps in New York City in 1982.
By the way, this isn't unanswerable,
but the other way this movie could ended,
they could have brought Belinda into the business
because she was smart, right?
Good with people.
And she becomes the third person.
They bring the business back,
but she's now running like.
I think that,
explored part of this movie is that Belinda
wants to keep doing this.
Right. Love's her job.
Loves her job.
What? I've watched this movie
like several times since I found out we were doing
this. Whose dog is that?
Why is there just an
attack dog running through the halls
at the apartment? At one point there's one scene
where there's just an Asian guy, like
an Asian neighbor just standing in the doorway
and the dog runs by him and I have no idea
why the neighbors, like why he's there.
He doesn't have a speaking line or anything.
I had one answerable question because this is,
they're just cranking out porn in New York.
Oh, yeah.
In the late 70s, early 80s.
And when they couldn't find somebody,
they go get a prostitute and bring them in.
Like, was Belinda in any porn or was Lupe maybe popped in on a couple,
like old Jamie Gillis, like early 80s?
Jamie's like, I'll just go outside of Times Square and grab somebody.
I feel like porn could have been a bigger part.
the TV series of Night Shift, there's definitely an porn episode.
It seems like for Zwan Neo that that's where Bill is going.
Bill is like, Bill is ahead of the game.
He's like VHS is here.
I'm so glad you brought that up.
I think I think porn VHS coming.
He's basically competing with Jack Horner on the straight-to-video scene.
That's the next thing for him.
I don't know why he didn't think of that right away.
I had that or he gets busted for cocaine distribution.
I had Chuck becomes Gordon Gecko's right-hand financial guys murdered after
Blue Steel goes south. I don't know what happens to Blinda. What's your double feature choice?
I'll go risky business. I had that as well. There you go. What piece of memorabilia would you want
from this movie? I really like Chuck's satin jacket that he, or sorry, Bill's satin jacket that he's
wearing when he first walks in. I also would love the tape recorder. Just, I'm an ideas, man.
You know, why do I have a tape recorder? I like taping things. The tape recorder would be really cool
to throw in an office. Can you imagine if we just had the Bill Blaz
tapes and we released that as a podcast as a limited series. People would be like, what is this?
I had Keaton's trademark satin-bomber jacket because he's talked about it and he says he still has
it. I try to keep a little something for me and also to hand down to kids and grandkids.
And that's one of the few things from that movie that I hung on to. Amazing. That's something like
Michael Keaton's attic. Send it here. Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson. Um,
I don't know.
Don't start a prostitution business in a morgue.
Or do.
Or like, you know, always look for opportunities.
You know what I mean?
You never know where they're going to come,
what shape they're going to come in.
How about no bad ideas in a brainstorm?
That's right.
David Jacoby, one of the great ones.
And then who won the movie?
Clearly, Michael Keaton.
Yeah.
All right.
Hold on your chair.
His Purple Rain Review was not beloved.
producer Craig is back
he's shaking off the heat
where'd you stand on night shift
really liked it
very charming
enjoyable enjoyable
incredibly watchable movie
it doesn't have a ton of lulls
nice amount of humor and heart
three very likable
characters I thought
Keaton I gotta be honest
when the movie starts I was like
uh oh
this is this is like one of those bad
SNL movies and it's gonna be 100 minutes
of Keaton sprinting
but they do a good job.
They pull back in the right moments with Keaton
so you don't get sick of them.
Keaton's good.
Keaton has the unique ability
to kind of be incredibly awkward and annoying,
but also lovable and a little pathetic
in this movie.
It actually made me thinking
that he could have been Michael Scott,
Michael Keaton.
Oh.
Oh, that's a great call.
It's a good, the lineage from
Billy Blaze to Michael Sky is interesting.
Yes.
That's really interesting to think of
the Michael Keaton TV angle
because he was trying to do TV for years
and they couldn't find the right role for him.
But I do think like it's kind of impossible
that in the early 80s
they couldn't have found a show
that he couldn't have been on.
Like Michael J. Fox, they found a show.
Hanks had bosom buddies.
And he easily could have just been in bosom buddies.
But yeah, that's a fun angle.
The lovable boss, yeah,
I think Keaton would have totally nailed that.
I got to say, I love Shelley Long.
I think a reconcilable differences
is an amazing movie.
And I think like the first 20, 30 minutes
of that movie,
she is like incredible in.
I thought she was amazing in this.
I wish they gave her more room to be funny in this.
Yeah.
Because the movie starts and in that first scene.
She's really funny in that first scene.
And she's like, oh, an egg McMuffin and a dead guy.
Great.
Like, he's my Avon lady.
Like, she was really good in that.
Oh, Christ.
You recognize this man as Franklin Telano Roosevelt Jones?
Yes.
What was your relationship with the deceased?
He was my Avon lady
Oh, give me a break
You think this is a thrilling morning for me
Huh?
Eat an egg McMuff and look at a dead guy
Look, honey, I...
Hey, I'm not your honey.
It's Belinda.
That's, I think, the scripted part
And then I think when Keaton comes in,
They're like, oh, hell.
Like, we just got to let this guy cook.
Yeah, because I never really watched Cheers.
Like, the 90 sitcoms were my wheelhouse.
I watched all of those,
but I didn't really watch Cheers at all.
so I didn't have a super strong relationship with her.
But I have, like, a crush on her.
I think she's fantastic.
I wish, I want to watch more Shelley Long stuff.
Maybe I should go back and watch Cheers.
Craig, bang out the first two Cheers seasons.
Some of the best TV of all time.
I've seen episodes here and the old guy, but she's her and Ted Danson.
Ted Danson was the other one on that show.
He was one of the best TV show performances I think we've had.
I also, I love Charlotte's parents.
I'm a big fan of, like, horrified, rigid Midwestern parents.
I think that's just like the funny.
The mom like passed out in the car
because she's so exhausted.
What's the line he has for the dad where he's like,
you know, like, do you wish you drank?
Right.
Not at all.
Have you seen the money pick, Craig?
No.
It's a terrifying film if you're thinking about buying house.
That's a Hank Shelley Long movie that she's really good in.
How did she end up seeing a reconcilable differences,
just out of curiosity?
Me and Mags watched it because we were,
It was the Ringer Films thing.
We were researching something for Ringer Films,
and we couldn't find irreconcilable differences online.
It's on YouTube.
Sean had a DVD, so he brought it in for us.
Yeah.
Wow.
Classic, Sean.
Yeah, it's on YouTube.
We've circled that one for rewatchables for a while.
It's going to be one of the worst months than rewatchable's history
when it's Eddie and the Cruisers and the irreconcilable differences.
We need to make four obscure movies.
All movies that are barely available to watch.
Yeah.
Four movies you can't even find much.
you probably have to earn.
Literally unwatchable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, he did it for pump up the volume.
We brought it back.
Yeah.
Right.
So, Craig,
are you disappointed looking back now
that Michael Keaton
didn't do more comedies in the 80s?
Yeah.
He's a guy I don't have a strong relationship with either.
I mean, I liked Beatles just growing up.
The Batman thing,
I was too young for that.
So Keaton has always been this guy that I,
to be honest,
like the biggest Keaton role for me is Birdman.
And I know it was like the big comeback for him,
but I think for a lot of people my age,
we didn't really know that.
It was just like this guy
who seemed like
a fringe A-lister
who never quite made it
and Birdman was his moment.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird.
There's a couple Robin Williams
movies from that mid-80s
to early 90s range
that I feel like if you put Michael Keaton in
Yeah, like he could have made
he done Good Morning Vietnam.
I think he absolutely could have done
Good Morning Vietnam.
I think he could have done Dead Poets Society.
There's a few of them.
I think he could have been a world
according to garb.
Yeah.
Because he could strip it back or be funny depending on what the thing was.
But he had an awesome career.
Anyway, that's Night Shift.
You can watch this on the Ringer Movies YouTube channel produced by Craig Horlebeck.
As always, C.R.
You're an ideas, man.
And it was great to see you.
Great to see you, please.
Yeah, see you next week.
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