The Rewatchables - Pacific Heights’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Kyle Brandt
Episode Date: June 30, 2026From Hell month continues with a visit to San Francisco, where Carter Hayes is wreaking havoc on a Victorian home in ‘Pacific Heights’ starring Melanie Griffith, Matthew Modine, and Michael Keaton.... Producers: Craig Hoelbeck, Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Matt Pevic The Ringer is committed to responsible trading. Please visit https://fanduel.com/predicts to learn more about the resources and helpline. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Watch World Cup. A lot of World Cup going on right now.
For sure.
I don't know when this is running, but the World Cup will still be going.
Okay.
Then I am still doing the Adam Friedland.
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Talk about soccer.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Hopefully by the time people hear this, USA will still be alive.
Let's hope.
We'll be like, holy shit.
We got through the groups.
Kyle Brands here.
Hey, Bill.
You said you have an announcement.
What do you got?
I do.
I have an announcement that affects us all.
I was listening to the mailbag episode of this very podcast.
Oh, my God.
And there was a gentleman who had a grievance with you and me, Bill.
And then in the wake of that grievance, Chris Ryan had a solution
to the grievance, and we even have the clip.
If you wouldn't mind Craig Horbeck,
play the clip to remind the listeners.
How do you and Kyle Brandt sleep at night,
knowing you failed to choose
the Storm family portrait
as the piece of memorabilia you'd keep from heart to kill
in 1990?
It's seen early in the movie right before
Felicia Storm was brutally murdered
during Foropo of Mason
and before their son, Sunny escapes.
See attached as Penance,
please do an episode on Deadly Ground.
So he sent a picture
and this is the Storm Family photo
I didn't notice it
I apologize I know Kyle apologizes as well
this is amazing
I can't believe they did this
I'll tell you what you guys should do
by the way that's Sharon Stone I think
to make up for this
you should get those made into t-shirts
and wear them the next time you and Kyle
I feel like Kyle is crazy enough
and there's no football right now
that he's going to show up on our rewatchables
with the Storm family portrait on there
we appreciate the feedback
we listen
We're always trying to pay attention.
Anytime I can make the show better.
And ladies and gentlemen, I'm thrilled to tell you, we got them.
We got them.
We got them.
We got Felicia, rest in peace.
We got the unironically named Sunny Storm.
And we got Mason Storm, who is mean mugging the artist who is painting a family portrait.
You just love to see it.
And, guys, I got them coming your way, too.
I'm so thrilled that I have this.
It's also Mason Storm watching himself,
to foreplay with his wife, you know?
Like, it's a stunning
metatechual commentary on family
and sexuality in it, and now
you have it as a T-shirt. It's a T-shirt.
This is a six-person pod. Here it is, guys.
So they're going to be joining us for Pacific Heights.
Mason Storm to talk real estate.
We got it.
So is that supposed to be Sharon Stone?
No, it's Felicia Storm. I don't think it's
Sharon Stone. Oh, yeah, yeah. She was in the other one.
I think it's just a great-looking wife who got shotgun
to death in the first act.
Unbelievable stuff, Kyle.
Thank you.
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I know.
Imagine?
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All right, guys. I don't know if it's from hell month
or from hell summer. We'll see. This might run
in July, CR, for all we know. The USA might be
in the final four by the time this runs.
But I told Kyle Brandt the premise,
I told him some of the movies,
and he basically looked at me and he said,
when Pacific Heights is ready, I'm there.
Why?
What is it about this movie?
Well, Bill, I don't know whether you realize this or not.
You referenced this movie over the years on this pod here and there,
just connected to Keaton, connected to this, that it'll come up.
And every time you do, I was like, oh, it'd be great to do a Pacific Heights pod.
And then recently you were listing the movies for for Hell Month.
And the second you said Pacific Heights, CR goes, ooh, that's the one I want to do.
Because, of course, he's a man of taste.
And I think for me, it's just the rare, rare Zillow thriller,
you don't see a lot in that genre.
And I remember it making a big impression on me as a kid,
despite having no knowledge of real estate law or renter's rights.
And I think it's because it was fully evil Michael Keaton.
Immediately in the wake of Batman, he decides to do dark money pit.
And I just remember thinking that was so cool.
And I loved this movie.
And I don't know how big the audience is,
but every time it hits for me
and the rewatch was great.
This is a crazy one
that was on cable constantly.
When I turn this on to rewatch it,
I was like, I kind of don't need to do this.
I have this movie committed to memory.
I remember so many nuances
of Keaton's performance specifically.
Yeah.
Who's kind of in this movie
like Hannibal Lecter?
Were you gonna play
with a razor blade during this pot?
Or no?
Just kind of move it around.
I let some roaches out in the house.
But, you know, this one has been
kind of lost to history a little bit.
I don't even know
it goes in and out of streaming services.
It's not constantly on.
I don't think it's had any kind of like critical real valuation,
but it is a rollicking, you know, what is it,
a hundred minute long thrill ride.
Tenant from Hell.
New York Times described it as an eviction thriller.
Yeah.
Which I think it might be the only one of its kind.
I saw this in the theater.
It's a great date movie.
It's both scary and not scary at all.
I watched it with my wife this weekend.
she loved it
it's incredibly fun
to make fun of Drake Goodman
played by Matthew Modine
who we'll get into
with a lot of thoughts
but some stuff I like
tremendous San Francisco movie
we talked about this
during the basic instinct pod
this early 90s San Francisco
great job
you can see Alcatraz at one point
It's Potoro Hill
Is that what it is?
Yeah
Is it Potoro or Patero?
It's Petrero Hill
Petrero my God
the corner of
in Texas, so it's not in Pacific Heights.
But great San Francisco movie,
it's right as this from hell thing is taken off.
We talked about the peaks 92,
but fatal attraction lays the tea leaves for something like this.
And then, as Kyle pointed out,
kind of a tremendous I Learn Something movie?
I didn't know anything about tenant rights, evictions,
what the laws were.
What I could get away with when I was at 10th,
someday. Once you're in, you're in, man. This is like the main list of the movie. Did they take
money from you, deposit? Nope. Well, you're still in. You're good. Knock yourself out.
I think California has more lenient tenant rights than other states, but I did later in my
life, like when I was in my late teens, early 20s, I lived in a house in Boston where the landlord
died and we just stopped paying rent. Wow. For like a full year. And then the widow was like,
what's up with you guys?
Like, you haven't paid rent in a year
and we were like, well, nobody asked.
You know, but it was like,
there was a whole process
where it was like,
it was going to be impossible
to get us out.
And that widow was bankrupted
because these brat kids
didn't pay her dead husbands
of rent.
Jesus, you are?
Just skating, no big deal.
That's like better than illegal cable.
That's incredible.
Yeah.
Really is.
Free rent.
To that point, though,
like, what I watched it now
as an adult, what freaks me out
is like, I'm not afraid of Freddie Kruger.
I'm not afraid of going in a dark basement.
I'm terrified of systems that I can't navigate
and that the teeth of bureaucracy sink in,
whether it's HOA, IRS,
whatever it is getting its teeth into me,
and I can't protect my family,
especially since in this movie the couple,
they throw it all in on this house.
It's like the great American dream.
This is our future.
It's an investment.
And it's being taken from them.
Really relatable and very, very scary
in a way that like a slasher movie is not.
And also there's very few movies
that shape your perspective completely.
You could be on the Carter Hayes side
or you could be on the Modin and Melanie Griffith side.
Are there people who are on the Carter Hayes side?
Well, just like, I don't have enough money
to pull off renting this place, but I'm in
and I'm just going to fuck it.
Like, that's like the worst case scenario, right?
This is like a pretty evil guy.
But there's been, I remember like we,
when I lived in Charlestown,
we had a really, really huge party
and got in trouble with the landlord
and I did kind of be like,
you know what, what's he going to do?
I got six months left at least.
I learned from Pacific Heights.
There's a whole process here.
We worked it out with the landlord,
but you know,
you kind of put the chest out.
It's like, you think you better than me?
We can't have a body?
What's nuts is that
is that moment when after Carter Hayes gets beat up
and the cop comes,
and the cop holds like a legal class
right there on the sidewalk, and where Drake is like,
he's got no right to be here.
And the cops like, when he's in, he's got rights.
And he's just schooling Modin's, get a lawyer, kid.
That's the crux of the movie.
And by the way, when we get to the overacting award,
like, Modine goes five different times.
And considering the fact that he's going up against Keaton here,
who's just like throwing 103.
He's Mizrowski at the end of this game.
Yeah, like it's.
Oh, a Ms. Rouske reference.
I saw him live on Friday night.
15 case. You went to that game?
Yeah, it was amazing.
Yeah, it was amazing.
Oh, my God.
Oh, that's great.
Kyle, when you, what happened after you left the real world in Chicago?
Did you have a place to go or did you have to move back home?
No, I almost immediately moved to Franklin Avenue at the base of Runyon Canyon, like by the Magic Hotel.
Like right there, I got an apartment.
Oh, yeah.
I like that.
Yeah, so I got my first apartment, had a roommate.
It was $1,400 a month.
I paid $700 a month.
and I lived there for like a couple of years.
Because you could have done the Carter Hayes on the real world.
Yeah.
It'd be like, all right, it's moveout day.
It's like, is it?
I don't know.
Yeah, sorry, guys.
My stuff's here.
Is it move out day?
Me and Anise are just going to stay for a while.
We've been here for four months.
And we're going to get Tanya to stay too.
And we're just going to keep finding out what happens.
We stopped being polite.
Great idea, Bill.
I was kind of thinking that there was their story going around about Carl Anthony Towns
when he got traded from the Timberwolves was like,
they gave me 10 minutes to pack up like nine.
years of stuff.
Yeah.
And I was like, there would be a whole new Pacific Heights twist of people moving into
athletes' houses after they just got traded and being like, I'm not leaving.
But you're like, you know, cats, cat squatter.
Sure.
Yeah, what if cat just never left Minnesota?
That's right.
It's like, nah.
I'm good.
Yeah.
Does Jimmy Dolan say like, I know the trade legally happened.
Craig, do you have a terrible tenant story?
When I lived in Brooklyn, a year after college, we had a true slum lord.
Like our place was a complete piece of shit
And we eventually stopped paying rent
And realized there's nothing this guy can do
So we didn't pay rent for probably the last three months
Did he do anything to harass you back?
He threatened us
And we said like we'll get a lawyer and he never responded
We never saw the guy in person
We went to his office
It was always closed every time we came by
So we just stopped paying
This is what happens
But that's New York
I think in like Florida and Texas
It's a lot harder for the tenant
The other thing about this movie is
I think it's a one-on-one
because you think like there's been 75,
we did hand the rocks a cradle,
75 versions of that movie with the nanny comes in.
Oh, she's going to try to rope in the dad
and all the mistress from hell.
That's a, that's,
I don't remember another tenant or eviction from hell, right?
Well, this could be, I mean, so,
it would be so fun to remake this for Airbnb now.
Yes.
You know, and to be like, oh, yeah, you know,
because like they've made some Airbnb horror movies
like the, I think it was the rental from a couple
years ago with Dave Franco.
Oh, I kind of like that movie. Me too.
And he directed that. But they haven't
made a Airbnb
my house during the World Cup and now
the guy won't leave. Like that's
sitting right there. And he's with seven
people from Scotland.
And he keeps singing about John
McGinn. They just keep singing songs
and pouring beer on each other.
This was
another thing I loved about this movie that for some reason
makes me think of Kyle Brandt every time I see
this opening credits from Natives or
is it starts out, James G. Robinson presents.
Sure.
I don't know who that is,
but it just sounded, there's a certain weight,
and I just was disappointed that Mustafa Akka
could have been involved.
This is a carolco.
I think one of the last Morgan Creek movies,
I can't remember, yeah.
Joe Roth was a part of this.
This had a lot of hitters,
and it's worth saying,
it's Keaton's first movie after Batman,
which is crazy.
Fucking awesome.
First movie after Batman.
We talked about him in the past.
I loved him in the 80s.
from the Letterman appearances.
Then Night Shift, which we did with Billy Blaze.
Johnny Dangerously, Gungho, Beetlejuice.
He's the top five Letterman guest.
There's a couple of misses in there.
A little clean and sober in there.
But then Batman in 89,
and it was watching one of your college buddies
just become one of the biggest stars in the world.
It's like, really, Michael Keaton's going to be Batman?
Yeah, he's like the closest thing we would have today
would be Pratt, right?
Like kind of...
But Pratt doesn't have like a...
I saw him on Letterman 100,000 times.
Like it was more...
It would be like if Peter Schroger became Batman.
By the way, Peter Schroger might be Batman.
He's in New York.
He's right there.
He's tough.
He's tall.
Bill, I'm hearing a lot of things
from the guys in Gotham.
They're very excited about RV Dead's chances
as Attorney General.
Hey, I talk to the penguin, Bill.
His guys love him.
They are ready to go to war for him for Gotham.
And you know what?
The cold weather is not a problem for the penguin.
We're hearing.
And I'll tell you another thing.
If the penguin hadn't gone right there,
Sean McVeigh was ready to take him.
I'm glad you bring up McVeigh.
I haven't mentioned him in 30 seconds.
Did you know I'm friends with him
and I was at his wedding?
He's basically the riddler in disguise.
Peter, you're great.
We love you.
I know you listen.
Anyway, Batman makes Keaton
a massive, massive star.
It goes from a wait,
why the fuck is this guy Batman too?
He was actually a great Batman
because of the mouth.
Yes.
The mouth with the mask.
Look great.
He did the job.
He pulled it off.
What's your next move?
It's going to be an eviction thriller,
actually with Matthew Modin and Melody Griffin.
So I couldn't find this in the research.
Yeah.
Do you guys, because there's a phenomenon of like,
this has happened to Jennifer Lawrence when she was in Hunger Games.
And then the first thing that comes out is a horror movie
that she had shot like three years previous.
And they're like, from the star of the Hunger Games.
Yeah.
I bet she would have paid anything to have that flush down the toilet.
Was Pacific Heights something that he agreed to previously?
No, it was a move.
I'm pivoting.
Career man.
Career move of I want to be a little bit evil.
But the thing is like actors love.
going evil. This is the best part of the movie. You don't want the Modin part this movie. You want
the, you want the key part, right? Well, Chris, the thing, the same thing happened. Chris Hemsworth
and a terrible Red Dawn remake came out after he was Thor. Right. And they brought that out.
But listen, I have a take.
Happens important too a lot. A lot of times is porn. Like, I didn't realize that thought
wow. Look at this person. Going at it. Carter Hayes is Bruce Wayne if he had never gotten the money.
And I think it's like Thomas and Martha get killed.
and he turns to crime.
All them when he goes to charity,
he's cunning, he's dashing, he's brilliant,
he likes the blonde women.
Let's be honest,
there is like a very cheeky moment
with that black Porsche where he clicks the thing
and that's like,
that's the fucking Batmobile.
Like in the driveway,
that is exactly it.
He drives that fancy Mercedes at the end.
That's like the Wayne family car.
If Bruce Wayne had never gotten the money,
he's Carter Hayes gone to crime.
When he's trying to take on that rich widow at the end,
he's rolling around,
he's got the V-neck sweater on.
He definitely looks like,
Bruce Wayne at the golf club.
I've said this in previous pods, and it sounds nuts,
but Hanks and Keaton were deadlocked for years and years.
They were Mahomes and Josh Allen, basically.
And Keaton was winning in 1990.
Batman was bigger than anything Hank did.
They were dead even probably going for the same parts
where you could have flipped them in different movies.
And by the time we get to Pacific Heights,
this movie was a hit.
And Hanks has Bonfire of the Vanities,
basically the same year.
That's a bomb.
Yes.
And then Melanie Griffith.
And then the next year it flips and Hanks goes on his Hanks run.
I think the thing I loved about Keaton is I like him more when he's like this guy or Jackie Brown.
Because he could also be the night shift guy, but you can't be the night shift guy for 20 years, right?
Nightship guy is like a five-year show flip.
I liked when there's like a little darkness to Keaton.
Yeah.
And I think being part of an ensemble or being part of a larger cast rather than being like the only person is helpful for him.
like the paper he's pretty good in.
I know that you don't like that movie, but yeah.
Spotlight.
Yeah, and Spotlight.
It's a good example.
You know what happened in Spotlight?
They do!
We cut these guys loose!
I missed that.
Yeah.
Don't you call me ladies!
You know what's an underrated?
I found this out this weekend because it came up on YouTube.
An underrated accent in the spotlight is Tucci.
Tucci.
What's he doing in that?
It's like Boston, but I maybe went out of state.
for school and came back.
I went to Tennessee.
Yeah.
Came back.
We're going to go a lot into some of the interviews
Matthew Modine has given over the years
because he's really a one-on-one.
And honestly, a threat to listen to this podcast
and sent some angry tweets.
I don't want to say I love Matthew Modine.
I love Matthew Modin.
Congratulations on the Knicks.
And for Melville Jack, it's one of my favorite movies.
Vision Quest we love.
We already did Vision Quest.
And he's back, Stranger Things. He had a huge run.
Stranger Things.
Don't take it personally.
I'm in on Modin.
And also, this part, he does this part very well.
Right.
Well, we're going to get to that.
I'm going to the other way.
I don't give a shit what Modin says.
When he turns off those utilities and does that victory dance, cringe, cringe,
Modin, you can tweet with anything you want.
Wow.
Come right at me.
Mo Dean said about Mike, I've been talking to Modin,
and he's so excited about some of the stranger things spinoffs.
Yeah.
Modine said about Michael Keaton and one of the many.
interviews he's given over the years.
Michael is a charming and witty man.
So playing that character may have been uncomfortable for him.
It was so against type.
I'm not sure what he did while not on set.
He had just done Batman.
It was a ginormous success.
So I'd see him on the set and we'd do our work.
And then he'd disappear like Bruce Wayne.
I think Keaton was just in and out.
Modin's like, hey, you want to watch the next game tonight?
No, no, I'm going to dinner.
And that was it.
It didn't feel like there was a lot of love in general on this set.
But, um, yeah.
Keaton after this, it gets
a little rocky.
Like, he does Batman, the second one.
Uh-huh.
With Michelle Pfeiffer.
Yes.
And then, I don't know.
It gets a little rocky for a couple years
IMDB-wise, and then, hey.
Chris, do you like Batman returns?
I think I'm not the biggest Burton Batman guy.
I think the first one's huge for me
just because of, like, seeing the theater
and the events of it all.
But I think it just kind of pales in comparison
to the normal ones.
Yeah, I don't care for it very much.
I just don't the penguin thing
and all that.
I just don't think it's very good.
And then the Schumacher ones
came and it destroyed it.
Batman Returns,
I don't really like,
to your point, Bill.
Like, we're talking Apex Mountain left and right.
Like, this is like the definition of it for Keaton.
Yeah.
Melanie Griffith,
this is kind of the tail end for her
as a leading actress in a movie.
We go from Body Double,
something wild,
working girl.
And then she does Pacific Heights,
Bonfire of the Vanities this year.
And then that's it.
She really paid for Bonfire of the Vanities
in a way that maybe hangs to die.
Yeah.
And Willis didn't either.
The Palma did, though.
Yep.
This was the last stand for her.
And I got to say, she's miscast in this movie,
but I still like that she's in the movie.
It's a miscasting that I actually really enjoy.
I don't think she's the right person for the movie,
and I never really bought her in Modin.
But I think that's one of the reasons I like the movie, Kyle.
Even last night, my wife and I were talking about it,
we're like, would these two be together?
There's a lot of that.
So this is my favorite part about this movie.
Sometimes we'll watch these films
that are set in the early 90s
up until like maybe
turn of the century
and you're like
I felt like all of this stuff
would be so different now
because of technology
but there's something perfect
about a horse instructor
or horse riding instructor
and a kite maker
yeah let's make it work
you want to throw $7.50 down
on a Victorian
you know like
I don't know like
how would people vet each other back then
how long did you date
you know
but like they're just two kids
like to fuck trying to make it honest
you know, like it's just...
I had this for later.
Like, did he feel like the kites were going to take off in the 90s?
Dude, I mean...
It's like South Korea.
It's going nuts right now.
Listen, I have it on unanswerable questions.
It's like, does he make fucking kites for a living?
He does.
He's like luxury kite maker.
Right now it would be like some douchebag you went to high school with on Facebook.
And he's like, a bit of personal news.
New endeavor starting a kite company.
Big things coming.
We're thinking IPO in spring of 28.
Early investors, if anyone wants...
to get out of my kite company.
So she's a horse instructor with a bad knee.
Heronite and his kites.
Ernie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Equestrian accident, we didn't get to see for some reason,
even though we got 10 minutes of backstory.
It's too bad Tatum's doctor couldn't work.
On Patty.
But maybe get an apartment.
You're not even married.
Like the big swing for the Victorian,
it's just an apartment would be fine, right?
Maybe you guys get the studio.
That's the other weird thing about the relationship is like they,
they're filling out.
application. It's like marital status.
They look at each other, like single.
It's like they don't want to really get married, but
somehow they went all in on this giant Victorian
anyway. And she says she's
pregnant at one point, and he doesn't
even seem that excited?
No. He just says, like, congratulations.
Like, she just got promoted at work.
It's like, did you kid too? Fuckface?
I have a lot of Drake Goodman
thoughts. But, yeah, Melanie and Griffith,
she's at that stage with this where
I think she's probably late 20s, real life.
but in the movie could be anywhere from 25 to 44.
I would have believed any age.
Whereas Modin seems pretty young still.
He's in Vision Quest five years earlier after this.
Yes.
Also, he goes shirtless a couple of times,
and Modine's still absolutely ripped.
Like, he looks absolutely great.
He's in Vision Quest shape.
Two things about their relationship.
They kind of look like brother and sister,
and if you know that and watch it, it weird you out.
I watched it once a few days ago,
and then I did some research,
which you probably have built it.
Like, they weren't necessarily the best friends on set,
and I don't think it went that well.
And then I watched the movie again,
and it really affects it knowing
that they weren't liking each other.
Felt the same way.
I watched it, did the research,
watched it the second time,
and I'm like, oh yeah,
even when she's like,
when they're doing the renovation scene
and she's kind of mounting them
and it just felt like brother,
it was like watching the Lannister.
There was a lot more electricity
when Keaton's got the nail gun to her head.
A little bit more chemistry going on.
That's one of the questions of this movie.
She has a more interesting relationship
with Keaton, who she's in like two scenes with.
But when she's in the scenes of them, I'm like,
oh, yeah. Now we're going.
I don't know. Look, she's iconic
and body double. She's great
in working girl. Working girl.
And had, you know, a bevy
of personal problems. She married Don Johnson
two different times.
She married Antonio Banderas and she married
Mani from Scarface. It's kind of like us
returning to Miami Vice the series after
all these years. Well, I feel like
she's like a family member for us.
Don Johnson, Stephen Bauer, and Antonio Baderes.
Your three husbands.
I'm like, I don't know.
I kind of dig her.
She should be third chair on the big bank.
It would just be like, yep, buried him.
And then Mo Dean playing Drake Goodman,
who I'll just say this now.
I think is the biggest dope in all of these from hell movies.
He might be the number one, dumb ass.
Yeah, male or female, I think he's the dumbest.
Every decision he makes is wrong.
he escalates it.
At one point my wife, who was half watching,
as always, just went on a tirade on him
where it was almost like you forget you're watching a movie.
He's like, why is this guy so fucking stupid?
He ever reacts to everything?
Yeah, but I think that's a great characteristic.
Like, I think it's an amazing movie character
to just be like, oh, this guy has bringing so much grief to himself
because he can't control his temper.
Can you imagine if he was the rewatchables producer?
Like, how pretty set on the screen yet?
Where is he?
He told us.
I want him out.
What are Jake Goodman thoughts, Kyle?
I have a lot of Jake Goodman thoughts.
Him being the dumbest thing in any of the From Hell movies is bold.
There's a woman in the good son who drops her own son off a cliff in favor of one or
his son.
That's a big move.
Right.
But I love, there's a really brief scene.
I know you guys saw it where he shows us a lot of his cards.
And he's a rugby player.
He comes in in the rain.
He's got that like blues, clues shirt on.
He's like, sorry, went to double overtime.
Super violent.
Most rugby players will be ready to fight and have beers after the game.
And really, really dumb.
Like, my favorite part of the From Hell movies is not when the From Hell people go bad.
It's when they're buttering up their marks.
And the two scenes that Keaton has with Modin and then it's a very different one with Patty.
Modin just sees a few hundred bucks and he's like, I don't give a shit.
Your private trust?
Great.
Total idiot.
Whereas Melanie Griffith is actually.
really smart in this movie. Yeah, she does
Keaton does a lot of stuff in that
scene, which is going to be coming up for most
rewatchables where, it's like, so you bought
this, who'd you buy this with? Are you guys married?
It's your first one? Yeah. Like, he's just
like pulling information from him. So good.
And stupid-ass Drake Goodman,
who just sees a wallet full of $2,900
which, by the way, he doesn't give to him.
Nope. Because he's like, ah, I can give you this
now, or I can wire you all of it next
next week. Anytime somebody's like, I
could wire it to you next week. Like, I'm
out. I'm like, hey, how about you, how about
You signed the lease and we could...
From my bank in San Antonio?
What?
Yeah, I'm good.
What was the San Antonio?
Tropic Thunder?
Yeah.
What is he saying that?
Oh, we're going to get some crawfish in San Antonio.
Yeah.
Yeah, so Drake Goodman,
professional luxury kite maker.
One of the dumbest landlords of all time.
Yeah.
Terrible boyfriend.
Not excited at all for the pregnancy right away.
wins the fight.
And is your alcoholic?
Yeah, definitely put down five beers.
He hammers beers.
At one point, he gets in a fight with Keaton.
They go through the glass door.
It gets in some punches.
And then Melanie Griffith comes out.
And he all of a sudden he's like a five-year-old kid.
Like he collapses in her arms.
Like, oh, I'm sorry.
It's like, what are you in the kindergarten?
You just fought the school bully?
Just a complete mess.
He has all the traits of a spoiled rich kid,
except he's not rich.
So what good is he?
You're right.
The more you watch it,
the less you like him.
This was kind of the Mo Dean,
you know,
he would be these quirky characters,
like Vision Quest,
super quirky.
I love that movie.
I love him in that movie.
I think he's great.
So do I.
But, like, just,
there's a quirkiness about him.
Like, he's like wide-eyed.
Yeah.
It's off-kilter.
There's nobody like him, right?
I can't think of another actor.
I can't think of another actor now
who is, like,
as off-beat as him,
yet put in the lead role.
You know what I mean?
It's like usually that guy will be like, I don't know, like the Crispin Glover kind of like, oh, he's the comic relief for the weird buddy.
The weird one.
He's often like the main character.
He was a leading man.
He always seems, and I just think because he looks young, he always seems three years too young for whatever role he's in.
And full metal jacket was that kind of work to his advantage.
Yes.
But he does Birdie, Vision Quest, Full Metal Jacket, Gross Anatomy.
He's like, considered to be one of the, you know, one of the best up and company.
actors.
Yeah, and he's so good
in full metal jacket
precisely because the way
he's delivering his lines
and the way everybody
in that movie is kind of
talking is like,
you're like, what is going on?
Hey, Joker.
We haven't done that one yet.
And then after this,
he does wind
with Jennifer Gray.
A little sailing movie.
I'm not familiar with the wind.
It's an America's Cup movie.
Sailing movie.
You'd be familiar
if you surf around on
Tubey.
I do.
I'm a white squall guy
when it comes to sailing.
And then my favorite Modine
other than Vision Quest.
I like white squall.
is, and the band played on,
the HBO movie about,
about when the AIDS thinged up.
And he has a great stand-up,
screaming everybody's speech in that movie.
How much is enough?
How many bodies do we have to bury?
But it's really good.
And it's,
with him,
when he goes on tilt,
you really feel it and enjoy it.
What's your Mo Dean?
Like, when you see Modine,
what are your thoughts?
I don't have any.
You probably think the guy,
the guy from Dark Night, right?
The lieutenant or whatever.
I mean, unfortunately, it's stranger things.
I mean, which is probably pathetic.
But he has like a, there's almost like a Krasinski vibe to him when he's young.
He's like, that's a great one.
You know, it's like, that's who is comp is now.
He could have existed in a sitcom.
His style of acting, I think almost would work that way.
Like scrubs instead of that graph.
Yeah, I think he could have done something like that.
Good one.
Do you think he should have put on 50 pounds of muscle like Krasinski?
Or he could be in like Jason Siegel a little bit.
Yeah.
I'll see him in shrinking kind of.
He's framed.
He's built like a swimmer in this movie.
He looks great.
It's huge.
He could have been a superhero.
A couple things about Mo Dean that I find very interesting.
Offered Maverick and Top Gun.
Offered that before Tom Cruise.
Turned it down.
And has talked about it since
because he disagreed vehemently
with the film's Cold War politics.
Sure. I get it.
Yeah.
Which I think,
I get it. I see it.
It's just hilarious that four years later
he's in Pacific Heights.
He's like, I don't agree with the Cold War politics,
but tenant rights, it's a passion.
He plays the defense secretary
and Sicario Day of the Soldado.
So I think he's loosened up a little bit.
Where he asks Josh Brulin
to kidnap a cartel king's daughter.
So changed his mind there.
His interviews are really great.
He really offers a lot.
This was from 1990-O-8 times.
Now I feel like he's going to come at us.
I like Modin.
I don't want him to be mad at us.
I like him too.
I feel like he's a friend.
It's like how I'd make fun of Joe House.
Modine Sunday nights with Bill.
Yeah, we do some Sunday nights with us.
Maybe he could come on and do a next thing with you.
I would love it. I like Modin.
Here's what he says.
Say it one more time. I think everybody will believe me.
I feel like you grew up with Modin.
Bill, like he came up together.
He's like family.
It's like a cousin.
You're up there on that.
I like Bobby.
I get it.
I get it.
The reason I was interested in Pacific Heights
was that we as a
society call ourselves civilized.
And we live together in community.
In that community, we make rules where we say we won't take advantage of each other.
We won't think that another individual is taking advantage of us.
We tried to get in the benefit of the doubt.
And there's always some kind of person or group who takes advantage of the goodness and kindness of the society.
And then he goes into talking about divers in Acapulco.
Really?
Yeah.
I think he'd be an incredible podcast.
I bet.
Very eloquent, thoughtful.
We active on Twitter.
He was just recently tweeting about the pegboard scene was real in Vision Quest.
I love that.
And it was a really cool backstory.
Like, he'll tell the stories.
He's out there.
This movie was written by Daniel Pine based the screenplay on several stories he heard from tenants in San Francisco pre-unnernet.
And then it was directed by John Schlesinger.
Yeah.
Who this was the tail end of the career here.
Yeah.
But he did our beloved marathon man.
He did?
Yeah.
Did Sunday Bloody Sunday?
Midnight Cowboy.
He did Midnight Cowboy way, way back when.
Falcon and the Snowman
This is not
America
No
This is not
And he did the believers
I will say that
For Schlesinger
This movie has
I mean Sam Peck and Paul
Did Straw Dogs in the 70s
But this has like some roots
In like
Some of those 70s movies
You would see
Where it was like
nerdy couple
Get taught a lesson
About the real world
By rule outlaws
Kind of thing
This is a little bit different
It's like
More of like a sociopathic con man
but it's still like two people starting their lives
thinking like let's just take the plunge
and buy a 750,000 Victorian
and Carter Hayes teaches him.
There's some good directing moments in this movie though.
Like even when Carter Hayes is going to check back in the hotel
and they're like, you know, credit cards,
they worked and your wife.
And the camera's like going around him
and the chancellor from 902 and O for like,
it's really really good.
That guy, the dad for risky business.
But it's some good craftsmanship.
The only thing I wanted to mention that I think is important is this is like right in the yuppie era.
Ah.
This is we've talked about it.
This is late yuppie?
Yeah, it's late yuppie.
It's because they filmed this in 89.
So we're talking, we talked about during the Wall Street podcast of, you know, greed is good.
Let's try to make a buck.
It's, it's Reagan's the president.
It's, how do I become rich?
How do I turn a profit?
this was, like them trying to buy this building.
It's not like they restore the building,
but they restore it just because it's a chance
to maybe make some money from it.
And the ending is really interesting
when there's this other couple that comes in,
and they want to buy it.
It's like, well, it's $900,000 now
and they're going to turn it in.
But it was kind of the mentality back then,
and I don't think it's the mentality now.
So if you're in your 20s
and you're watching this now, Craig, yeah,
you'd be like, what the fuck's wrong with these people?
the idealism back then was just much more pure than it is now we're just too cynical now
you know well it was everyone was told you you you will buy a house and then it's an airtight
investment and then you will live in it for a long time and then make a ton of money when you sell it
and you're guaranteed that and that's what they're doing here did you guys like when the that last
scene you're talking about bill when that by the way that guy is that guy's the dad from friday night
lights um did you find yourself doing the math a lot in this movie like i was trying to figure out the
finances. Did they put 3%
down? I don't know.
Back then you could put zero down.
You could like they
I've never heard of somebody buying a house for
$750,000 but then living month to month
with the rent. It's like if we miss
one month rent, we could lose this whole thing.
It's like, I'm not sure how that works when you buy a house.
We'll just fudge the numbers a bit. Everybody does it.
Yeah. Yeah. And then they
sell it at the end. We don't know, but maybe somewhere in the high
800s and they paid mid-sevice put at least
$50,000 into it. Like they make money for sure.
but it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not walk away money yeah no retirement money no weird times
102 minutes Greg not bad right there you feel it just flies by sure I could have actually used maybe two
more I could use a little bit more Beverly Deangelo oh let's go come on with Ann you know honestly I could
have used a rugby scene I don't there you go yeah I could have watched modine playing rugby
rugby and I could have used a lot more Greg you know the guy the guy who's helping him
destroy the apartment oh yeah I could have used a little sexual
tension scene between Keaton and
Griffith.
They shot that and left it
on the cutting room floor.
He touches her hand.
They look at each other for a moment.
He intuitively understands her pain
from losing her child.
We needed something there to be like,
is there a little bit there?
I had this for later in the movie.
I think the movie's,
he goes heel immediately, right?
He's in the house.
All of a sudden,
the weird guys in there.
Carter's in Seattle.
There's no scene where he's
kind of charming them in
and he's like,
hey, I brought you guys
a glass of one.
Well, why don't we have it together?
and then they have a glass of wine.
He's got a program.
He goes to the bathroom.
He kind of looks at her legs.
Like, we're just missing that, fortunately.
Like, just a, you know, leg shot.
It's kind of salivating a little bit.
18 million dollar budget made $55 million,
Kyle Brandt.
55 million, and it was all worth it.
I have to revisit something that Chris just said.
You imagine you go to this movie and you buy a ticket
and you get an idea what it's about.
All right, it's Michael Keaton,
something to do with real estate.
You sit down.
And in the first 60s,
second, you're like, holy shit, is this Ellen Griswold's boobs in my face? What the hell is this?
Uncredited, Beverly DeAngelo out of the clouds with full, like, full nude, like, all-timer.
You must have been blown away in the theater watching that. I was re-watching it.
I had it know what stage the best.
Top. I know you did.
Top ten. Sure.
Yes. Actresses we've had.
Yes.
He's like, hey, Beverly, you know, we can't.
side PG-13 or R.
Do you
just want to
want to film one take
where we just
we go for it?
Sure.
Let's go.
If it's okay with Michael.
It's also one of the earliest
ever moments in a movie
for the,
okay, motherfucker!
Like we're going to kick this up a notch.
And what's so great about that
is that that's Pacino
saying okay, motherfucker,
and eventually he was in on that.
Right.
Yeah, that's true.
They had a kid together.
They sure did.
Yeah, I googled,
I googled, I was thinking this should be a category.
Things I Google as I'm prepping the rundown for rewatchables,
but I googled Beverly DeAngelo nude scenes.
Because I couldn't remember how many times she had devil.
On that iPad or this iPad?
No, I was on this iPad.
And all this research came up of her nude scene in vacation,
which apparently she was like, fuck it, I'll do it.
And there was this whole story about Anthony Michael Hall getting in trouble
because he tried to sneak on to the set.
When she was doing it.
Which I don't think came up in our research
when we did rewatched was initially.
And then they had to kick him off the set
because he was basically 14 years old.
Like filming Porkies?
Yeah.
Trying to watch through of people.
Roger Ebert, two stars.
You know who's not a fan of, from Helmont?
The late Roger Ebert.
He finds these movies.
Yeah, he's just to test these movies.
Pacific Heights is a horror film for yuppies
in which the bad guy uses the axe
to attack your three flat, not you.
The thing is that I could easily see this being the premise
of the Hitchcock movie.
I mean, even down to the setting,
but the idea of being terrorized in your own house
seems like something that was ready made for him.
And then Roger would be like, ah, the master.
I never much liked the young couple
or believe they liked each other.
There you go.
And I didn't see enough of Keaton in the early stages of the movie
because he was always behind a closed door.
Fair criticism.
That is true.
I was going to do this later.
I'll do it now.
This would have been a great De Palma movie.
Yes.
For sure.
I think you ramp up the sexuality all the way through.
I think you recast Melinda Griffith or Tower.
Can you go into body double mode here?
He would be doing all this stuff like going between walls.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like Drake and Patty are humping.
Carter's listening, you know?
There's definitely a Carter sneaks in and is watching when they're having sex scene.
Yeah.
Carter makes Anne come over but calls her Patty.
It's just like it would be.
so twisted.
All kinds of shit.
See, I would take that
and I would just go
one notch higher
with Fincher
and then it's getting
really dark.
Oh, like panic room
crossing himself on Earth.
I don't know if I can handle
Fincher with the roaches.
I just think he would do
something really gross.
We're going to take a break.
We're to come back
with most rewatchable scene
and I had a surprising amount of them.
Most rewatchable scene.
Kyle mentioned the sheer thrill
of seeing Mrs. Griswold
getting it on a minute in this movie.
Congrats to her.
Bill, one year after Christmas vacation, in which she spends the entire Christmas Eve with this like center cut bosom busting thing.
And you're like, God, she's so attractive and cool.
10 seconds into the movie just lying around naked.
The 13-year-old me went crazy.
Also, she's just covered in her own cigarette smoke.
Just smoke it and wearing a kimono the entire movie.
It's coming out of her nostrils constantly.
It's almost like she's wearing a reverse oxygen mask or something, just spitting out.
Smoke.
Most of the watchful scene,
I love a good house renovation scene
going right into a super awkward rental scene
with a perspective of Black Tenet.
Have you ever done...
That's really, really interesting
from a 1990 perspective?
For sure.
And then winds up being a real...
Be really, really interesting.
Chekhov's Black Tenet.
But have you ever done your own demo work?
No.
No.
What are you talking about?
I'm just curious.
Sledgehammer, gloves.
If you've ever gotten the hammer out and just...
Look at these hands.
No.
Chris, of you?
Look at your own.
Look at these baby's soft hands on my.
Yeah.
These hands are soft as a baby's bottom.
I thought Chris maybe that place where you guys stopped paying rent.
Yeah.
I used to have calluses here.
That's it.
I thought I didn't have like back in Boston or your first L.A.
house.
You were like, yeah, let's take this wall down.
No.
Let's open this place up a little.
I didn't think that.
That's a no.
I'm sorry.
I just get the run around so much.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, bad for that guy.
Yeah, Carl Lowe.
He was also Carl Lumberer, maybe a little too agro initially, but I get it.
You're right under that place.
Yeah.
Also, I'm putting the, I'm not putting it under the door.
Yeah.
My lease application.
It's in a, it's in a manila envelope, attention, whatever.
Drake and Patty could have just been a little bit more on the same page about who is handling applications and who is doing what.
They weren't on the same page in this entire movie.
Kyle mentioned this scene already.
Keating comes in, asks a bunch of questions.
This is your first place.
How about if I pay $2,000 now?
Actually, I'll wire you everything from my bank in St.
Antonio.
Works in like a speed bag in this scene.
Bank in St. Antonio.
Because I know.
It sounds so made up.
And there's twin scenes.
He works the idiot, Drake.
And then he gets the smart girl.
And he's doing that thing where he's like,
did you pick out these light fixtures?
And then there's this shot where he gives her a quick up and down in the body.
And he's like, you've got great taste.
It's a great scene.
I love that one.
I work for a private trust.
I don't really have a traditional kind of credit.
Sure.
This is up there.
What?
I was thinking about like...
Who would buy this?
How stupid do you have to be?
Maybe he had CTE from the rugby?
This is a very like, what's the most 1990 thing, but like it's the idea of being like I work for a private trust.
It's based in San Antonio.
You're not going to get a usual credit history.
It's up there with like, I'd love to do this, but I just have to move some money around.
Sure, yeah.
Take out your phone and move the money around.
Right.
Yeah.
Motherfucker, come back with that money's move.
Sounds like she lives in Canada.
I met her at Niagara Falls.
I thought the same thing.
Like, what's the Mount Rushmore of,
yeah, you wouldn't know her.
Ever lay anybody around here?
He says,
I'm always running into this problem, you know?
Yeah, I bet you are.
Carter Hayes.
What do we think about Carter Hayes and Drake Goodman
his names?
I think they're supposed to be anonymous
because Danforth keeps moving through identities.
So I think it's like an easy,
it's an easy name to like replicate
until I get...
What ringer podcast
would Carter Hayes host?
Oh, straight lacrosse, dude.
That's an AI lax name
right there if I ever heard one.
It's like,
we've gotten rid of Danny Hyfitz
in the fantasy football show.
We've replaced it with Carter Hayes
and Drake Goodman.
If Carter Hayes started doing
some town episodes?
He's a billionaire now.
This is my favorite scene in the movie
and just because it makes me laugh
so hard,
It immediately turns you against Drake Goodman for the rest of the movie and he becomes the bad guy.
When they're talking about Mr. Baker, how he came in, the perspective of black tenant.
And he goes, I don't know, maybe he's one of those minority scam artists.
That was a weird, agro racist term.
Is this a new category for us, the Drake Goodman Award for most unexpected casual racism?
No, no, it's not a racial thing.
It's common sense.
That guy is so excited to vote for Bush.
What was that, Kyle?
He watches himself saying, I have a lot of black friends, honey.
Like, it's right there.
To be fair, he does.
His only friend is black.
He does.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's true.
It's weird because he's both racist, but they're running the other apartment to a Japanese couple and his only friend is black.
So why are you being a racist?
Yeah.
It's just bizarre.
Drake Goodman, racist kite maker.
That should be under character in the impressions.
Sorry, you'll never get one of these kites.
Yeah, I don't trust this guy.
She's Mexican.
I'm just a kite maker.
I just call him like I see it.
We need it about a World Cup show.
Drake of him in the first Sicario.
It's like, yeah, finding him would be like finding a vaccine for a disease.
I was saying about a World Cup show.
Ecuador, typical.
That's just basically Alexi Lawless.
It kind of is.
Oh, man.
Carter somehow gets into the place
is my next rewatchable scene.
Yeah, this is my...
This is tough
because this is where
they gave him an inch of daylight
and he just is in.
Yeah.
Did they?
Well, because that's the great thing.
Did he sign the lease?
I guess he did.
He says he signed a lease,
but he's obviously not paid.
He immediately changes the locks.
He got in because somebody
opened the door,
but their mistake was not locking
the lower apartment.
So again
They're just so disorganized
They got people moving in
They have money problems
We need this guy
They don't have anybody
Watching the till
Yeah and went to double over time
Like there's a lot going on
The kites are running behind schedule
There was an intense scrum
He was a part of
I wanted to see her
If she ran like the equestrian club like this
But there's just little kids
riding on horses away from
Some place in Malbu or whatever
Hayes in the garage
We go from
he barely gets into he's in Seattle
to now he's just smoking a cigarette
in the dark in the garage.
Again, I feel like we're missing
a scene, but I think this is a really good
flipping the razor blades.
It's like, okay. And this is
22 minutes into the movie.
It's like, all right. We're not even
going to like play the game and pretend
we're buddies here. We're just going for it.
I looked for you guys that he's smoking that
cigarette in the car with the windows off too.
It's full psycho. He doesn't care.
Yeah, that might as arguably
be the most sociopathic thing
he did in the movie.
In a small Porsche coupe, too. That ain't invented.
Because that car's going to fucking stink for
10 years after that. Also, just keeping roaches and jars
is pretty nuts as well. Yeah, that's pretty
very much.
Next we'll see him, he changed the locks.
Look, I can handle this, Patty.
I know.
This is where my wife,
I wrote down her quote, he's acting
very irrational and it's bothering me.
That was a direct quote from my
Yeah, Patty needed to take the con here.
She needs to take over.
Patty needed to give him the veto Corleone.
You can act like a man!
Just like shake his shirt.
He's just a mess at this point.
Next one, cockroaches,
which leads to Drake climbing under the apartment
at the perfect time where we get to hear the entire plot of the movie.
Thanks to our two bad guys.
They're just doing a podcast about their heist they're doing.
But you brought me in on this.
Yeah.
The cats in there.
There's cockroaches that fall in the head.
probably Modin's best moment in the movie.
Those are 20 live cockroaches getting dropped.
This is right when the cat gets taken, right?
Yeah.
When you and I have shared that in the 90s,
earlier decades in American history,
we had a little bit more of a transient,
like kind of a flippant relationship to house pets.
Yeah.
This is what we mean.
You know, like when it's just like,
you just get out of a cat.
When he tells Patty they have our cat,
she's just like, too bad.
Doesn't get a shit.
Honestly, I was going to have Mallory as our fourth, and I just feel like she would have spent an hour and a half talking about the cat.
Yeah.
I just don't understand.
They would have his own Instagram account.
Yeah.
Member of the family, we travel with it.
Yeah.
But he takes those bugs to the face like a champ.
I like that.
She really does.
It reminds me of like Kate Capshaw and Temple of Doom gets like bugs and centipedes all over her.
It's like that.
It's a good, cool moment.
What if you had to say more impressive to you, the Pegs, Vision Quest, going to be a lot of,
all the way up or the 20 cockroaches on the face.
What did Modaid, what impressed you more from Modin?
The cockroaches to the face is like a bad like Joe Rogan Fear Factor episode.
At that pegboard, I couldn't do that thing.
Even when I was in high school, I think it's the pegboard by far.
That thing is very hard, very hard.
Yeah.
Incredible stuff by Modin.
He's a fucking legend.
Carter brings the flowers over after making the police call just to get his ass kicked,
goes through the front door.
We get a cry hug after Drake does the beating.
And then we get the lawyer going, this is what he wanted.
Game over.
Drake loses.
She's just given them the basics at all time.
God help us if this becomes personal.
Oh, man.
So good.
Fight scene.
Any thoughts, Kyle?
I do.
Yeah, I have some thoughts.
First of all, I had this unanswerable questions.
Incredible job baiting the hook with the preemptive police call.
What is Carter's play if Goodman doesn't take the bait?
In other words, he's mad, but like he's not beating him up.
Do you just keep kind of riding them and do you have some burners?
If you pull at this, like, yes.
I mean, my unanswerable questions are similarly based on Kyle.
But, like, I don't know what he does if Drake's just like, okay, well, I tried.
You know, like.
Now, see, I think he studied this man, this idiot, Drake Goodman for weeks on end.
He saw him get excited by just the sight of $3,000.
This is like Brunson in Game 5 with Wembe.
Just like, I've solved this 7 foot 6 free.
I've got it.
I'm just going to beat him off the dribble.
going to buy every fake I have and then I'm going to score on him anyway.
I think he had some heavy artillery ready to some sound bites or maybe some gestures.
He was going to get him to punch him one way or another.
Once he found out about the rugby, he's like, this guy's going to punch me.
This guy plays rugby on Sundays.
He would just be like, rugby.
It's not a real sport.
God damn it!
Every rugby player is just a failed football player, right, Drake?
And then the punches would start.
Drake gets shot?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This was a whoa.
I like the camera, too, where Keaton comes,
Keaton turns off the lights and is in the background.
Great shot.
Yeah.
Do you think, I had this for unanswerable.
Do you think he meant to kill him or just?
No, I think he meant to maim him.
Because I think the entire point is that...
He wants to take his identity or what?
The first con is supposed to be,
I will basically get this house as payment for the debts that they're going to owe me, right?
Yeah.
The civil complaint that I have.
And then he's just going to sell the house for nothing, like,
and make, like, whatever the profit is for that.
But then I think as it goes on, it becomes more of an identity theft thing.
What do you think, Kyle?
Well, I think, yeah, he shoots him by accident and then he plants the crowbar.
But I'm glad Chris said that because I think even watching it now as an adult,
it's a little hazy exactly what Carter's end game is.
I've watched it.
I'm like, what is the plan?
Like, he strips the apartment, and I think maybe he sells all the light fixtures and the tile
or something. Yeah. Like I think he, for him, it's like all
cash business. I just need
moving around money. But I don't know
that he is like, this score
will set me up. Like, I think he's addicted
to like being on the run and addicted
to this kind of terror. I have the answers.
What do you got? He destroys the
place because he's a fucking sociopath
who smokes cigarettes with the windows up in his
car. He fully
intends to win a civil suit
against Drake and get the house. Yeah.
And then he'll just flip the house. But not like
then start at life there. He's going to flip.
No, he's going to flip it and move to the next city.
Right.
Yeah.
There's just like way easier ways of making $200,000.
I know.
Definitely.
You have to get the shit kicked out of you.
Look at Patty.
She's a fucking equestrian teacher.
Right.
Do something.
Fly some kites.
Patty's seeing that Carter destroyed the place.
Yeah, she's really upset about it.
It's a good scene.
All of her light fixtures.
It's Melian Griffith's best work in the movie,
followed by her meeting the tenant that she's.
didn't rent to because her boyfriend is a casual racist.
My favorite part of the movie, Patty Spies on Carter for the Day and somehow gets into his hotel room.
This is 15, 10 minutes, whatever it is.
I wish there was like three more things like this.
Honestly, this could have been the whole movie.
Yeah.
She does like the full Kevin McAllister.
I'm just going to order everything to room service.
Fischi Sui.
Give me the Caesar.
Cremberle.
She's like having a shopping spree.
And it's as your audience, you've been waiting for 90 minutes for this.
It's very satisfied.
Craig's nodding happily.
I know that he loves this part.
Best scene in the movie.
This is easily the most rewatchable scene.
The whole thing with the maid,
do you find it a little ridiculous
that Carter keeps his entire biography
and newspaper clippings in a suitcase?
Well, we've learned it from Helmut that everybody does that.
That was fatal attraction,
created it.
And now that's just,
if you're in from Helmut,
you have to keep the scrapbook.
But you know what it remind me of was
Gene Triplehorn's move in the firm
where she goes down to the Caymans with a...
Oh, with Avery.
Yeah.
Avery.
And, like, I thought it would have been great if Patty was like, Carter, you're the fucking man.
Take me with you on your next score.
And, like, tried to seduce him a little bit.
But, you know, basically it was always just trying to build a case against him.
That's for the Apple scripted series.
That's going to happen from this.
I learned that from this scene.
The maid always let you in in any movie.
If you try this in real life, they're like, I'm sorry, sir.
I can't do that.
You're going to have to go back down.
Her excuse is, like, I can't get in a movie.
in my room.
It's like, you're in the 10th floor,
just go down and get a fucking key.
Also, what's the...
The maid always falls for it to the movies.
Like, what is with her leaving,
then taking back,
then leaving a little bit of cash for the maid?
Is she trying to decide
how much Carter owes her versus the maid?
I think she was like,
I'll do a good deed for this lady.
And then she's like,
oh yeah, we're broke.
I'm about to lose my house.
I do think that's it,
which is such a weird thing to add.
She's like,
well, I want to give the maid
to all of the money.
What is she going to do with it?
She's a good person.
Yeah.
Bill, this is like,
This is one of those things that happens in movies and not in real life.
Like when you go into a bar and say, I'll have a beer.
You have to say the name of the beer.
I recently had this in a hotel like six months ago where I was locked out and I asked the maid.
I was like, can you please let me in?
Here's my ID.
Here's everything.
And this lady was going to war.
No matter what I said, she would not let me in.
It's a fireful fence.
Yeah.
Any hotels can be like, you're fired if you better.
Definitely.
You got to go downstairs.
Yeah.
I don't have.
I can't let you in.
Yeah.
I know.
I like that.
I like when people go nuts in a bad guy's hotel.
room, which she does when they flip out.
The scrapbook of his evil work is
especially good. It's probably the best scrapbook we've had.
There's perfectly cut newspaper clippings.
Hey, here's when I lost out the family estate to my brother.
It's just like so weird because it's like if you're Carter,
it's not like you've forgotten what you've done.
You have all these pictures.
Here's me and my twin brother and a chimpanzee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's probably when he started losing his mind.
And also, listen, you have
Tom Seismore calls guys slick
in prison changing the entire plot of the movie
and you have...
Jim Danforth unlocks the entire thing.
Come on. He left the scrap back
with his real name on the back
in the middle of the trashed apartment.
That's like the slick equivalent here.
I like when she takes the chocolate.
Yeah.
Oh, she earned that chocolate.
That whole scene is just great.
Then the final fight scene.
You cross the line.
Yeah.
The nail gun.
Very scary.
Call back to the nail gun.
Very scary.
It just had stopped working for her.
And then we get the Allen Rickman.
There's Bruce Willis right there.
Staring.
Bruce Willis staring at CR.
Just looking, staring him down.
We get the fall backwards.
Even though he's just in a kitchen.
Yeah.
Going backwards.
Just put your hands behind you.
Our guy, Matthew Maudit, another interview he did,
What's he got now? Come on.
I think the movie would have made a load more money if at the end, when Michael Keaton fell
in the spikes, if he'd started to pull himself up and I'd reached up from where I was below him
and pulled him back down onto them because he shot me, he's beaten me in the golf club,
he's ruined my life, he's destroyed my apartment.
The audience really wanted my character, Drake Goodman, to get one back at him.
To be fair to him, man, I all do respect to Matthew Mourty.
Go on.
Do you think anyone in the history of movie going would be like,
yeah, it was a pretty good movie until the very end
when Drake Goodman finally double impales him
and everybody's like, I got to go out and see that for myself.
I'll go further.
I would make a load more money because of that.
I think more people would have wanted Drake Goodman to die at the end of the movie.
I wish he had died from the golf club meeting.
I hate Drake Goodman.
Yeah.
I guess I should say this now.
My weak link of the film,
I think Carter's death is fucking horrible.
I think the whole scene is so lame.
You do get Chekhov's nail gun, but you don't get it killed with it.
And can we just, can we walk through what Drake's plan was here?
He's just been beaten with a golf club and his bullet wounds.
He's going to go underneath the room in the chance that there's some glory hole he can reach through
and do a Brazilian leg lock to trip him.
And that final shot is like something that Nordberg would do.
It looks ridiculous.
I think the last scene is bad.
It's the worst part of the movie.
I agree.
They didn't know how to end it.
I also think he's kind of holding onto his leg
and Keaton's looking down.
Just kick your leg.
Yeah. Stop his fingers.
He's really injured.
Yeah, just like hurt his arm.
Keaton's like, whoa!
Has no idea how to react.
It's like they shot Keaton thinking
he was going to fall out a window.
But then the actual reality is he just falls under the floor.
It would have been better if he just put his hand up and tripped them.
And then he felt like face.
first on the thing.
It fell through the floor
down to Modin or something.
It would have been amazing.
Imagine Hans Gruber
instead of falling 50 stories
just fell down on the ground
and died.
That's what it is.
What if like,
you know,
Drake was hiding underneath the floor
and then he just lets a kite out
at the last second.
Oh, yeah.
He's got a kite with razor blades on it.
I'm always upset that nobody says anything
in this final moment.
Yeah,
I know.
Like he's a lot,
Carter's alive for 20 seconds
staring at you.
Like,
that's when you get in your line.
That's when you put a cockroach
on his face.
Or you got to just be like,
like you're evicted.
Yeah.
Yes.
We've rejected you.
Your rent is past due.
Yeah.
Say goodbye to that security deposit asshole.
It's perfect.
Honey, call the angry black guy.
We have a vacancy.
Hotel room is the best scene.
That's the most rewatch.
No-brainer.
What's the most 1990 thing about this movie, Kyle Brant?
you know, sometimes when you're just lying on the couch, riddled with bullet wounds,
you just need to bang out some Soundgarden on MTV and just turn it the fuck up,
and it'll just take you where you need to go.
I self-satisfied, and that seems like, I'm just cozy.
Yeah.
And it's just, it's rocking out early Soundgarten.
It's this song called Hands All Over.
It's metal as hell.
He should be watching, like, Price is Right or something.
Like, no, MTV Soundgarten, like, turned up to 11.
It makes me so happy.
Yeah, an MTV video of a grunge song that they probably wouldn't have played in 1989 or 1990, I'm guessing.
I don't think that one's playing.
What's your favorite?
Just all the banking and tenant application stuff waiting for wire transfers.
And then also, this has now become a tenant from hell movies, letters of reference.
Again, it's just like, hey, I have this letter of reference.
Well, it's airtight.
We better just get this guy in the apartment.
Well, how about here's a phone number of my previous.
landlord. It's just some lady
having a cigarette. Yeah, Carter's great.
Yeah, I had to give him money to
just be here, yeah. You don't have
an address for him, do you? That's a
red flag. I also had Drake being kind of
blown away by Carter having a car
alarm.
Oh, yeah, that was really impressive. He's just like,
whoa. He dunked on him.
Are you from the future?
I had
buying a huge San Francisco
three-story house for 750,000
although 1.9 million adjusted
for today's money.
Ebert calling this a horror film for yuppies.
Anyone working for a designer kite company,
I feel like that has to specifically be
1989 or 90.
That's real like Earth Day kind of vibes.
You know, like we're just going to go outside to the park.
Not being able to Google your bad guy tenant.
I feel like, I'm just going to check out this Carter Hayes,
see if there's anything online.
And then Melanie's haircut.
Yeah. Come on.
It's just...
Come on, Bill. You waited long enough.
Let's do it.
It's very specific to that 89.90.
It's... I want some life in it.
It's like a bob.
My wife kind of liked it.
But it's kind of a bob.
I don't know if it exists two years later.
I think she goes shorter.
Yeah.
And it's just very specific to that era.
And I don't know why.
Or her clothes in general are very late 80s, 1990-ish.
I'm so excited.
This is my favorite category.
the Floyd Gondalee butter on my ass
Lollipops on my mouth award
for something I just enjoy.
I'll go first.
Okay.
I love in movies like this
when people do
over the top rich guy stuff
and it's like the most cliched
rich guy thing you could possibly do.
In this case,
Carter Hayes on his next score
picks up the wealthy later
in this giant mansion.
What are we going to do?
An idea.
I'm going to put a sweater over my shoulders.
I have a yacht, a little three-hour yacht trip,
and let's drink some champagne and just seem super rich together.
But nobody in the planet does this in real life.
Not one.
In a movie, though, great.
Champagne, yacht trip.
Captain, take us out.
Yeah, I've got my sweater around my shoulders.
Hold on, I'm going to make sure my sweaters.
Nobody does this, Kyle.
They definitely had lobster and caviar, too.
No question.
That's what you do back of the day.
Lifestyles of the rich and famous.
No question.
What's yours?
Great, grateful.
First of all, I haven't thought about anything for the last five minutes than ways that Carter Hayes could suffer a kite death.
That's all I want in life.
I feel like maybe there could have been like a key or something like Benjamin Franklin, like another famous kiter.
That's all I want was a cart debt.
Floyd Gondoli, things I just enjoy.
I really enjoy Orkin's presence in this movie.
Bob, the sidekick of the Joker and the Batman movie shows up and this is probably in half-ass internet.
the Orkin Company sued
in how they were portrayed in this movie
because I have this vision
that there's like a VP of marketing
who goes to the CEO and's like,
sir, I really think we should write the check
for this Matthew Modin movie.
I think we want to be in it.
They go to the premiere.
They're sitting there like,
here's the scene, here's the roaches.
Here it comes.
And then it's this idiot,
bumbling Barney five moron.
Who's like, I guess I have to step on them.
They can't do anything.
And then I feel like the Orkin people
went to the premiere
and at the after party.
They were at the same table
as the Marriott people.
And Marriott people were like,
this movie was great.
We love how we were portrayed.
The front desk guy,
the roof service guy.
Yeah.
The manager with all the balls
to stand up to the,
we love it,
and the Orkin people were furious.
That gives me great amusement.
It's pretty good.
It is, yeah.
What was that guy?
Tracy Walter,
he's in Repo Man,
he's in Batman, yeah.
He's in the South of the Lambs,
performing an autopsy.
He's been around.
That's right.
Yeah, he's one of those guys.
What do you have?
Oh, just any movie
where a car pulls up to the top of the hill in San Francisco
as it's going home to like,
it's just like those shots of those hills
are just always like,
this movie can be about anything.
Woodsage is the best other than anyone
asking a trusty maid to let them into a hotel room.
That isn't theirs.
Always works.
I always get excited when it happens.
It never can happen in real life.
What do you have for what's age the best, Kyle?
I already kind of mentioned that Patty is just so much smarter than Drake.
I like that.
Yeah.
And he's like a total dick to her.
and she just sees over it.
And then on the same related note,
I just want to give some respect
to Melanie Griffith's jeans in this movie.
They're like the fourth lead of the film.
They're up to her armpits.
They're belted.
They're frosted.
I can't take my eyes off them.
Her final shot in the movie
is up the stairs walking away.
It's just fantastic.
And I love her jeans in this movie.
G-E-N-E-N-S.
That's right.
I would say it's the best.
Probably just the idea of like
the beta-tri-
trying to fight the alpha, like Drake being pit against a guy who has everything that he doesn't
and everything comes more easily to that guy.
A rugby beta?
Yeah, rugby beta with a con man alpha.
So I really enjoyed that.
I have music by Hans Zimmer.
Hell yeah.
Hans is like, yeah, I'm not doing anything that week.
I could whip something together.
Evil tenant movie?
Okay.
I'll work on it.
Casual rental racism coming back to burn a landlord.
Yeah.
So what's age the best?
scrapbook with someone's evil past
I had for another Beverly
DeAngel nude scene
it's like Devin Hester
with kickoff touchdowns
it's like he did it again
98 yards
and this was like the Super Bowl
because he does it on the first play
like right out of the gate
and Jim Nance can't believe
and he's gone
How many times can he do this?
You don't kick to Hester
Oh that's great
Bev's smoking a head for UCR
Yeah
A positive spin
for the most part of being a landlord.
Usually landlords and movies are
evil people. They're evil landlords. Yeah.
They're as characters, he's like,
ah, the fucking landlord, or he's creepy
or he's spying in them. It's like a stepmother.
It's always evil. Right.
Tippyhedron as
Tipyhedron as
Florence Peters. And that's Melanie Griffiths.
Melanie Griffith's real life mom.
And then I have, for what's age is the best?
This exchange. Oh, that's a
great idea, Patty. You're pregnant with a
blown knee. My knee's
fine and I don't have to be pregnant.
Oh, yeah. That's in the script.
Yeah.
But also like,
Unbelievable. Patty threatening to go go pro again
in equestrian riding, like, what kind of money are we talking?
I know.
You're going to make the mortgage?
The nationals are coming up.
You don't know. It could be an Olympic sport any year now.
The Stephen Segal shitting on himself forward for most
unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot.
Kyle alluded to this earlier.
Look, this is on the internet.
I'm not positive, it's true,
but I'm going to pass along anyway because it's great.
Modin stated during her presentation at the New York Film Academy
that he experienced significant difficulty working with Melanie Griffith.
He noted her frequent complaints regarding her menstrual cycle
as a primary memory of their professional interaction.
I don't know if that's true or not.
It's so fucking weird that I just am passing along.
I'm not judging.
Maybe it's not true.
That's amazing is that around when Melanie Griffiths was shooting bonfire,
the vanities.
Okay.
She complained openly
about how difficult
the production
Pacific Heights was.
Do you know how
fucked up
Pacific Heights most have been
to have been
complaining about it
during making
bonfire of vanities?
What happened during this movie?
And then Keynes
like World War II.
I'm not getting along
with Melanie Griffith.
Should you say that court
about the menstrual cycle
like in character
as Drake Goodman?
I don't know.
I hope that's not true.
Maybe it's not true.
I'm going to pass it.
Just for
comedy's sake, that's it.
Sure.
Again, the Steven Segal category is like,
we don't know if that happened where he's shit on himself,
but we passed him along.
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Great check order award. What do you have? CR? Most cinematic shot.
Yeah, so I've got Drake dropping his mail in the mailbox and then the curtain's
subtly opening behind him, but I'd like to introduce a wrinkle to this category today.
And it's called Pass the Settle Down Juice. We've got a thirsty director award.
Yes, do it. I know what it is. The random 360 dolly shot of Patty and the lawyer having a pretty
normal conversation.
And when Lori McKaff and
Melanie Griffith are just like, yeah, well, this guy
is going to try and get you out of the house, because that's what he
does. He tries to win. And meanwhile, the fucking camera
is going around and around.
Like, it's like they just found
Jake Lamata there. It's really...
You love Settledown Juice. Yeah. That's
good one. I like that. I have this written down
that if one of these guys chooses the
360 shot for the Great Shot Gordo, we're going to fight.
I hate that shot. I feel like
I'm on a carnival ride. I get sick.
And they're treating this banal
conversation like it's
a Pichino in the ocean and the insider
like just screaming into the phone.
It's like the drama doesn't match the shot.
Easy. The only time it works is when
Keaton's flipping out at the end of the hotel manager
because he's flipping out and they start
moving around. Yes, but I agree. The other one
didn't work. I had
the ice cube falling in the hotel
glass. Oh, that was awesome. I thought it was a
really good one where it flips as she's going
out the door. It's just, I was impressed.
Chess Walkwell, Brock Leander's
a word, best character name. Carter Hayes?
No, you guys got to dig
Goodman?
You got to dig deeper here, guys.
What do you got?
What do you got, Chris?
Court-appointed locksmith, Manfred Bagel.
Oh, come on.
That's his name?
Do you imagine this guy's name's
high-endzel?
That's the actor.
And he's been in a bunch of Woody Allen movies or whatever,
but you think he's like, gets a call and they're like,
incredible.
Hi, we need you to come play a court-appointed locksmith.
And he's like, ah, for Christ's sakes, I don't know.
And they're like, his name is Manfred Bagel.
And he's like, I'm there.
What's my call time?
That guy's nickname was Ungan or everything.
The screenwriter was definitely eating a bagel when he wrote that character's name.
He just had nothing.
Well, there's something of the thing where they say Patty's last name a couple of times in the movie
and then in the credits it's a different last name.
Oh, for real?
Which I assume is just an oversight.
Wait a second.
Hold on.
Is it possible that his name is bagel because he deals with locks?
Maybe.
Oh, it's like a nickname.
Yeah.
But the, like, the Marshall is very, like, official about, like,
He's like, ah, very official.
Court-appointed locksmith, Manfred Bagel.
He does everything.
Kid Cutty Pursuit Happenance, so where Best Needle drop.
Go ahead, Kyle.
Well, I already mentioned Soundgarden.
There's an awesome part where when Drake gets back to the house and the car is being taken
apart and there's just this crazy heavy metal plane.
Yeah.
I want to shout out to a band called Hallows Eve, an 80s thrash band from Atlanta who plays
lethal tendencies, and it makes Drake even matter.
It's like a trap that he walks in, that metal song, which, by the way,
I know that song kind of music pretty well.
I literally downloaded Shazam
and held it to my TV because I couldn't find out
what song that was. And it's like, oh, easy.
Lethal Tendencies, Hollow Z. Got it.
My wife has been doing that to like random trance songs
that are on like off-camera.
She's like, what is this?
And I'm like, it's like literally Muzac.
What do you do?
I wrote down, this is for later, but did this movie create grunch music
CR?
No, but that's a good bit.
Trey Goodman listening to Soundgarden.
Was that it?
This year been your hottest take.
That was Ground Zero.
He is, you could tell, he's starting to explore, like, I've got a scarf on, like, ironically.
I think they moved to Seattle.
You're probably right.
They really get into this.
Well, Sound Garden, what?
A year later, they're playing birth ritual on singles.
Yeah.
Like, they just beat it.
Denethe's Benihano Award for Seenstallin Location and the Amanda Dobbins Award for Best Piece of Real Estate, where this house was.
Do you think this house is a good piece of real estate?
I like that.
I like that it's at the top of the hill like that.
Because I think it's weird to live on those.
steep hills. Did you know anybody who did that? No.
My buddy's, uh, Bish and Mike and Hopper when they lived there, they lived like in the middle
of a slanted hill. I always thought it was just weird. Yeah.
I do want to mention the Beverly Hills House from the lady that his next mark.
1014 North Crescent, 30.3 million on Redfin right now.
Yeah. How much?
30.3. Wow. I mean, it looks fucking huge. It was massive.
It was massive. I immediately was... That's the fucking big, that's the white whale for Carter.
He must be like, if I get a...
this one. It's all over.
I just like don't.
So he's like in San Francisco trying to
scam somebody into an apartment.
And then he's also in L.A. trying to get a $30 million.
We likes to have two going.
Yeah.
And he's in Pondry's too.
But he has to take his marks.
Identity to go after her.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's like you always want to have the next one going.
Yeah.
It's like Sam Presti. You got like two trades
going at once.
Could this movie have had a better title?
Well, it could.
It would have been the tenant,
but Roman Polanski made that movie.
Broken Lease?
he never breaks it
I just I think it's eviction
Pacific Heights
what percentage of the viewing populace
even knows what Pacific Heights is in reference to
it's very vague
safety deposit
I have the winner
it's off of what Kyle just said
eviction quest
Oh yeah
It's good
It's an unofficial vision quest sequel
Eviction quest
A CRIE of a flex category
There's a Jesse Eisenberg
That's good
you should be proud of that right there.
Don't worry if you don't make it any further reward
for the best line reading is when Keaton first meets Modin
and he's like, I spoke to your wife about the studio apartment.
He goes, oh, my girlfriend, he's like, sorry,
we don't want to rush anything, do we?
It's a really good line reading.
But my actual flex is to turn it back to you guys.
It's the Van Lathen.
How would Van Lathen get out of this one?
Usually this is sex-adjacent.
But how would you guys handle this?
Carrie comes to you and she's like,
you know, it's going to be lonely without Ben here.
Let's get a tenant.
Next thing you know, he's changed the locks.
Like, what's your first move?
I think it's a lot easier now with camera phones.
Okay.
Like, part of the problem is they can't capture the drilling at 2.30 in the morning.
And I think we also have more awareness of what to do as the landlord in this.
Yeah.
If they're in there and they're not paying, I feel like you could immediately get the police in.
if he hasn't paid anything
and it didn't seem like he had a signed lease
he signed the lease
but it was all predicated on like
I'm gonna sign the lease
I'm gonna send you six months right
that's why he was legally
that's why he had the rights to live there
because he signed the lease
yeah and he was just like
oh there's a problem
there's a mix up at the bank
if you if your bill
I feel like you gotta bring in
like a big Dom security guy
who just sits out
every time he comes home
he's like hey Carter
where's that money
yeah
this is this is where I
bring in Gahau.
Okay.
So, Kyle, how would you...
Like, Gahau, you got to handle...
Oh, you got to do that.
Cahow.
Do your thing, man.
Cahow's talking to a tenant right now.
Kyle, how would you handle it?
Does the tenant, Chris, just indulge me this.
Does the tenant work for a private trust?
It's one that he cannot disclose who the private trust is for, yeah.
Listen, the biggest idiot thing that they do is, they wait way too long to call the police.
Yeah.
The second, Greg is slamming the door in your face.
We got to get the fucking cops here.
You need a record of feuding.
with the guy that you got to then go forward.
Yeah. To answer your question, Chris, I would rather
have like reptile pets in my
house than have an actual renter.
So I don't think I'd be in this, but I'd call the police
early if I did. Here's my thing.
Yeah, what do you go? Kill him with kindness.
Every night down there with a six-pack of
and Christine being like, hey, Carter,
I just want to know if you want to come upstairs.
Rick Ruchel's pitching.
Giants are looking pretty good.
Nope. Okay. See you tomorrow night.
It'll be like Rick Moranus from Ghostbusters.
Rugby championships are on.
Hey, Carter, we're looking for a
for my rugby team.
No, no, okay.
All right, well, I'll talk to you later, bud.
I would just act like me and Carter
were best friends.
You know what you do, Chris?
You're going to have a Weber grill, too,
and you can put some ribs on there out front.
And Cardi, you want some?
Medium rare.
Come out there, perfect.
Making brats, Ronnie Lops,
looking real good this season, Carter.
Bring Greg, too.
Screw it.
Well, the other move is when he's not there,
you just figure out of break into the place.
Yeah.
which was a way better strategy than what he tried to do.
Turning the lights off and the power off and all that,
that's like the one no-no because now you're violating him.
Now you're the bad guy.
Couldn't you just get in, change the locks again?
So then Keaton couldn't get back in?
You could.
Yeah.
And then you could say like, well, I don't, lease agreement, what do you mean?
He's never paid me.
Butch's girlfriend award for Weeklink of the film.
So you already did yours, Kyle.
Yeah, the last scene, his death scene sucks.
But you know, it doesn't suck.
Chris Ryan referencing Big Daddy Rick Russell of this.
to Cisco Jocels. I loved Rick Russell.
Give up a home run to Bo in the All-Star game.
What do you got, Bill?
So
Carter, Carter Hayes,
I have him as the best six-inning
starter ever as a villain in a movie.
He can only throw 18 pitches.
He looked unstoppable.
He's basically, he's going through six.
People are texting each other, like
you watch in Carter Hayes right now.
18 straight outs.
10 strikeouts, no walks.
Like, this guy's on fire.
fucking falls apart.
In order,
he fucks up and shoots Drake.
I still don't understand.
He talked about that.
He shot Drake and put the crowbar in his hand.
But why?
What did that get him?
I think he's trying to drive Drake mad
so that he is gone from the situation
and he can take over the house.
Just kill him then.
I didn't understand, though.
He leaves the childhood photo behind.
You're getting out of there.
You have time to pack up.
But you're leaving this incredible...
clue. He moves to LA
and stupidly sends a postcard
from his new hotel to
his ex-girlfriend who's been looking for him
who hates him. Yes. Do that.
And then he becomes
Drake Goodman in the hotel.
Like, that's your second guess after
his Carter Hayes here? No. I wonder
if he stole Drake's identity. Is Drake Goodman here?
He sure is. Room 1030
would. I just
I thought he played this perfectly and then it
just fell apart. It's a bummer.
Yeah. Bill, I'm looking at like
like Mark Pryor for the Cubs in the Steve Bartman game,
it just completely comes unglued.
When Carter Hayes is sprinting down the avenue of the stars
chasing a cab,
I feel bad for him.
That's beneath him as a starter.
You got to get him out of there at that point.
Yeah, that's when he's now, he's like giving up Niner and runs.
It's like, oh, my God, this got a no here.
This is his ERA is going to go up.
Did you have a Wake Link or now?
No, not really.
I liked Lori Metcalf's performance,
but I think it would have been cool to have, like, a harder charging lawyer.
Like a little bit more aggressive.
if maybe he gets killed by Carter.
The Mallory Rubin Award I threw in for,
did this movie need a better sex scene?
I'd take two more.
I don't think this movie has enough sex in it.
No.
I really think they should have ramped it up.
Carter should have brought some gal home
to the destroy department one night.
If you're going to throw that in
in the first three minutes,
that can't be it.
Yeah.
Like you're trying to set a tone
and then you're a PG-13 after that?
Do you think they told Beverly DeAngelo,
trust me, the whole movie is going to be like this?
Well, why do, it's an unanswerable,
but why did she demand to take her
name out of the credits?
I thought that was weird.
I don't know.
Yeah, unbilled.
She's in six scenes.
She's like Kevin Spacey and seven.
It's very strange.
Yeah, she's like the fourth lead of the movie,
basically.
But I, Bill, I, I zag on this, actually.
I actually, it's like, did this movie
need a worse sex scene?
Because that sex scene is so good.
I'd rather stay out in the desert
with the two of them.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
Go back.
Like first five minutes movie.
I'm more intrigued by them.
That's like the,
They're out in white sands.
I would love to know what was going on there.
Yeah, that's pretty weird.
What's age is the worst?
I thought the first scene, just in general, is pretty bizarre.
Those guys come in, and they beat him up, but not really.
He's fine.
And what lesson did he learn?
And why didn't they break his arm?
I didn't get that.
So are those people sent by the original Carter Hayes?
Like, those guys?
Is the idea that he has stolen Carter Hayes' idea?
his identity and now those guys
are coming after him. But then he still won
because he retained that apartment it appears.
Does that scene need to be in the movie?
It's almost more interesting if he just shows up.
It shows how desperate he is.
It shows his lifestyle and
it immediately gives you a little violence
and sex. I kind of like the scene actually
because it's confusing but it tells him he's
mysterious. I would take more violence
and maybe he shows up in his arms in a cast
or something. Remember the shot at the very beginning
of the movie? They're like two guys driving on the road.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the guys with the baseball bat.
Oh, that's just the two guys.
Yeah.
They're going out to beat him up.
Yeah.
The photo of him and his brother and a chimpanzee.
Mm-hmm.
What's going on there?
This is what's aged the worst?
Yes.
What's coming on there?
I don't know.
They look like they're in Neverland Ranch.
It's a very strange photograph.
Johnny, Charles,
hold on, pose with the chip.
Yeah.
When have you ever been in a situation where you can take a photo of the chimpanzee?
At the end of the movie,
what is he?
Every would.
way but loose.
Carter's like,
I have responsibilities.
I have to take care of my brother.
What is that about?
And his brother,
it's established,
took the estate and disowned him.
Yeah.
I thought that,
so that Shazam song you did,
this is my other words age of worst.
I just would have put in Dinosaur Jr.
They're sitting right there.
Let's get like a real band.
They're not really famous yet.
They need it.
Yeah.
You know,
they have an album out that year.
I thought that could have worked.
What did you have?
words? I think there's
like some moments where Hans Zimmer is doing
we have to save the Earth from an astronaut
music when it's just like
these two guys are just like nailing two by fours.
I don't think it's that traumatic.
Yeah, darn two turned it down.
And I thought the
combined income of a couple
made up of a kite maker and a horse riding instructor
doesn't even get to the
20% down for the 750K.
So there must either been a family nest egg
in there. I'd like to know which one of them
was spending it. Yep.
By the way, that would have been a good yuppie angle of
like somebody's saying,
I don't want to have to ask my mom for money.
I mean, if you ask me,
Drake Goodman screams family of lawyers,
he's going his own way.
Right.
What happened to Drake?
I heard he graduated from Harvard.
So, you know,
kites are really taken off right now.
Drake thought this luxury kite business.
Oh, I thought he was going to be an attorney.
No, it's going on the kite route,
big kite company.
That's probably a seasonal business too.
He loves kites.
He's going to do another round of seed investing.
If you're in for the series B, let me know.
What do you have for what stage is the word?
Is anything, Kyle?
I got a young woman named Patty.
You just don't see that anymore.
Yeah.
I hate when realtor will bring you to a place that is over your stated price range.
I think it's dirty pool.
It happens here.
Yeah.
But most importantly, guys, is it entirely necessary to have Mr.
Watanabi doing Tai Chi in the real?
rain in front of the bonsai trees.
It's a pretty casually racist movie.
What are we doing?
The only thing that's missing is that in the final scene when they're fighting Carter,
Wadhanavi comes back and does karate and does a kick.
And it's like 1990, we get it.
The man is Japanese.
We don't need the Tai Chi and the bonsai trees.
It's a little heavy of that.
And he being like, I will pay you back somehow.
And it's like, how about you just like?
And they're all bowing.
They're constantly bowing.
This is a fucking terrible situation.
I'm out of here.
Try and Sue me.
I've made you some sushi.
Yeah.
What else could he have done that?
It would have been...
Yeah, I didn't even clock that.
How did I not have that in my notes?
It's a very heavy-handed.
There's practically a gong there.
It's just...
Come on, guys.
We get it.
He's Japanese.
Hans Gruber's scale villain ranking.
Carter Hayes, I think, 8.0.
He's pretty high up there.
I mean, he's a terrifying what if.
Like, what if this happened to you?
What do you got, Kyle?
With 10 being Hans Gruber and one being the passenger 57 guy,
here's what it hurts, here's what hurts Carter.
And three toy soldiers?
Two Soldiers is three, maybe two.
Two, sudden death.
Carter doesn't kill anybody in the movie,
which is kind of unusual.
And he doesn't give us the big old,
here is my manifesto.
The system is working against me.
And I will, like,
he does a little with,
I got to take care of my brother,
but a tenant of the Gruber scales,
you got to cook for a while
and just tell everybody you were all about.
So you're one monologue short.
Yeah, I have them,
I love the character,
but on this particular scale,
he's at best of six.
I liked it during that speech where he's like,
you liked it, didn't you?
Like living dangerously.
Ruffalo, Hannah Rubinick-Pertridge,
overacting award.
We don't even need to really go in a...
Say, what I'm out of here!
I had Modine five Budweiser drunk acting.
Yeah.
Yeah. It's all the...
If we did it as Oscars and there were five nominees,
it's like, and Matthew Modine,
and Matthew Modine,
and we'd just be five different...
When he turns off the utilities
and does the...
that dance. It's like the worst end zone dance you've ever seen that like an offensive lineman
picks up a fumble and does one. I cannot believe they chose to keep that in the movie, but they did.
Kyle, what's your flex category? I have a new category. Oh. I have the Pacific Heights Ice Cube Award
for Excellence and Intimacy Coordination. That move that they do to start it in which Beverly DeAngelo
takes an ice cube out of the glass into her mouth, passes it directly to Carter-Hanee.
mouth, he then takes it
and rubs it all over her back and then she
goes, so gentle. Like, that is
an unbelievable thrilling sequence.
And my question to you guys, did
it say in the script, she removes
ice, tongues in it
his mouth? Atlas? Or do you think that those two great
artists? We're just like, let's just explore the studio space.
Like, you know what? Long day on the set? Let's make
something happen here. And there's two people
whose reactions I want to that scene.
One is Chevy Chase
who watched that scene. It's like, Alan.
And he'd probably push for that shit in Vegas vacation.
and then I want Pacino's reaction,
which I guarantee was,
O'ha!
And he, like, wanted her number
and eventually they ended up together.
Because that is so sexy,
and I just, I love that they went for that.
Baby, you were on fire.
Fire!
It's kind of the Peter North Award a little bit.
Most effort put into a scene.
Yeah.
Great.
Oh, yeah.
Also, the Ice Cube exchange is against gravity,
which is even more impressive.
It doesn't go down from the top of the environment.
Yes, correct.
Up against gravity.
Very impressive.
Impressive stuff.
Maybe they were in the film.
Yeah.
I think it's all ad-libbed.
You do?
I think this is a PG-13 movie, and Bev and Keith were like, yeah, let's fuck around here.
Let's try something.
Here, let's just roll with it.
Just keep rolling.
Let's do this.
And it's just awesome.
So would you call that the Pacific Heights?
The Pacific Heights Ice Cube Award for Excellence and Intimacy Coordination.
Not bad.
I'm going to add it.
The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford.
How to Take Award?
I didn't really have one except for maybe, like, I think Patty should have given like five minutes
the thought to sticking with Carter and becoming the new Anne.
Just because, like, first of all, he shows that he's willing to get his hands dirty
when it comes to renovations and demolitions.
Yeah.
And also, like, this is a guy with plans and ambition.
He's not content just sitting around doing kite making.
It's pretty good.
I like that your pivot now is that people should stay with the crazy person in the front.
That was my idea.
It seems like DeMorne has just got it all thing figured out.
Should we be worried that Sierra sided with the From Hell character in every movie?
It's called Highest take.
Come on.
Um, I have, uh, I think I learned more about landlord tenant rights from this movie
than any human being in my life, um, any story.
Yeah.
I think this movie was incredibly impactful and doesn't get it's just due.
Um, I can't think of another situation, um, movie, TV, real life that taught me more
than this did in 102 minutes.
And that's it.
What do you got, Kyle?
It's incredible.
they once they get in they have the right to do process and that's expensive and long and i completely agree with you i would watch this to learn about that exact crime um mine is really close to chris's this is a better movie if the huge twist at the end is that carter and drake are working together
and when melanie is up in the hotel room she's slipping through the document she comes across her boyfriend's face and he's the brother yes his name is not
not Drake Goodman.
He's been, and they're been working on this for months.
Remember, they're not married,
and they make a point of saying they're not married
like five or six different times.
So this is relatively new.
And I think that they're in cahoots and in tandem.
The fight was kind of staged.
I think Drake Goodman...
In the arm?
Yeah, twice in the arm.
I think Drake Goodman caused the miscarriage,
like all kinds of things.
But the terror in her face when she finds out,
oh, my God, they're in on it together.
That's a better movie.
You could even have...
He decides he's going to be a luxury kite maker as to throw people off the same.
And Carter's like, no one will ever believe that.
And you play rugby?
This is crazy.
Will people believe this?
That's really good.
She could have held the photo up and been like,
yes.
Casting what ifs.
I only have one.
Christopher Reeve really wanted to be Carter Hayes,
lobbied the director.
And sadly for Christopher Reeve,
Keaton was Batman and wanted to be in the movie.
And that was a wrap for Christopher Reeves.
I don't see Christopher Reeve in this movie.
They wanted Superman or Batman.
That's pretty cool.
Amazing, two choices.
Who would have been the third person?
Yeah, I heard Toby McGuire wanted to do it, but he was like 10 years old.
They couldn't.
Well, look at the best that guy category.
It's fucking stacked.
It is.
Yeah, it is.
We have Dan Hedaya.
One scene.
Mrs. Watanabi played by Nobu McCarthy,
Mr. Miyagi's long lost love and karate kid, too.
You karate, you KK2 guy, Kyle, yes, I am.
Beautiful story.
The instruments at the end.
I love it.
Fortune.
I'm into it.
Daniel, son.
This time enough of points for life.
Yep.
Carl Lumby.
Lumley.
Carl Lumley.
Cagney and Lacey cast member?
Also played Bobby Seal in Chicago 7.
Some of the Falcon and Winter Soldier stuff.
Yeah.
Jerry Hardin playing Bennett Fidlow.
You might know him from X-Files in the firm.
And then you mentioned Tracy Walters, the cockroach exterminator.
Sadly, none of these people win.
I got to go Dorian Harewood.
I don't know if he's that guy.
I think he was famous at one point.
Which guy is he, Chris?
He's the one buddy that he has.
He's the one buddy he has.
That's pretty good, though.
Craig does my sense.
I have him winning because he played eight ball in full metal jacket.
So he and Bodine were in the same squad in full metal jacket.
Oh, that's good.
Mine's not on the list either, though.
I have two more.
Okay, go, do it, do it, do it.
Nicholas Pryor is the hotel manager.
You know him as the risky business dad
and more importantly,
Chancellor Arnold from 902 and O.
Uh-huh.
My winner is Luca Bercovici.
Yeah.
Who played a muzzan in American Flyers
with Kevin Costner,
the bad guy biker,
and is just a home run in that movie
and then really never kind of bounce around after that.
This is a good time to ask.
What is Greg's utility here?
Like, Carter can't do that demolition himself?
He's helping out with ruining the apartment for no reason.
Carter needed a hand doing that.
It's a studio apartment.
He needed some help.
Okay.
What did you have, Kyle?
I had Hal Landon Jr.
When they go and do the locksmith to finally get in,
the officer there with the pattern baldness,
he's Ted's dad from Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.
And that's like the only thing I've ever seen him in.
Deputy Van Halen, there is one scene in this the year later.
That was my guy.
But these are a lot of excellent choices.
Really, really low.
a category.
I think my favorite is probably
Mr. Miyagi's long-lost love and
karate kids.
I do.
You know, Sato
kind of fucked up their
relationship I felt like.
Dion Waiter's Award.
I can offer you Beverly DeAngelo,
the Watanabe's,
or the cockroach exterminator?
I'll do it, Bev.
Yeah, she takes it all.
Recasting couch director of City.
I can offer you young Denzel Washington
as the tenant that got turned down.
Right in his range.
I think 1990s,
is he famous at that point?
That's post-glary, yeah.
Yeah.
How about Sam Jackson?
Oh.
90 works, sure.
Yeah.
I have the Palma for this, though.
Yeah, you're right.
I think the Palma doing Pacific Heights
would have been fucking awesome.
I'm just, I can't stop staring at Segal's shirt.
It's really, it is distracted.
It's really great.
These two are so happy to be in the portrait.
It also looks like they're together watching the Chicago Bulls,
who Kyle has to the left of him.
You never thought you needed Tony Cooch and Mason Storm together.
We got them.
Two big threes in a row.
Half a five-senter research.
Carter Hayes drives a 1977 Porsche 9-11 career targa.
It's a fucking elite car.
It's not really research. It's just respect.
It's just an elite elite car.
This is my favorite. I was researching Melanie Griffith.
Joanne Woodward told a 17-year-old Melanie on the set of the drowning pool
that her goals were to marry a movie star,
have beautiful babies, and win an Oscar.
And she did all three.
Melanie said she adopted the goals for herself.
She married a movie star and had beautiful babies,
but never won the Oscar.
They get nominated.
Joanne Woodward.
Who didn't?
You have a moment, a Joanne Woodward moment like that
with anyone, CR?
Like where somebody passes along?
Like James Corden?
It's like, who are my three goals?
I want to host a terrible,
World Cup soccer show.
Want to have my own late night show?
Yeah.
What have I done of those?
I don't know.
Apex Mountain.
Keaton.
Yeah, well, this is it.
I'm going to say yes.
Yeah, I think it is too.
It's Batman in this.
It's an example of Apex Mountain being a poison chalice.
Sometimes, like, you make the wrong move from the apex, you know?
For sure.
Or the right move.
For sure.
Melanie Griffith, no.
Matthew Modine
I think full metal jacket
I think it's the Kubrick lead in the Kubrick movie
you got to do that, yeah
ominously playing with a razor
Has it ever been done better?
I think of Kevin Spacey
cutting his fingertips off
and then of course Polly slicing the
garlic but it's close
Boy, those are two really good razor
razor shouts. Better creepy cockroach scene?
I don't know, cockroach is notoriously
difficult to work with on film sets
What's that stupid movie Joe's apartment?
Isn't Jerry O'Connell?
Isn't that cockroach-based movie?
Yes.
I almost did this as my hottest takes.
Cockroaches, kind of overrated.
Seems super scary in a movie, but if you have to, they can't bite.
They're just kind of creepy.
I think they're like the scariest thing in the world.
How come?
Well, they're scary involved.
If I was Mr. Watanabi, I would have just off to myself.
So wait, you're more scared of roaches than mice?
I don't.
I think rats are way more scary than cockroaches.
Yeah.
Roaches, they're infinite.
and like they'll never go away.
They just breed in your pipes.
They've completely freaked out.
And a lot of them can fly, which you get them.
I've had a few roaches in my life.
Never like an infestation, but I hate them.
We had termites in our first LA place.
Oh, yeah?
That sucks.
Did you have to tent it?
That was bad.
Did you have to tent it?
They just, it's like out of a movie.
They start multiplying.
You see the wings.
It fucking sucks.
If Spencer Pratt was like, we're getting rid of the roaches,
he would have my boat.
That's all I had to do.
Look at you, Craig.
San Francisco movie houses, no.
We've done this before.
Is it Mrs. Doubtfire?
Oh, movie houses.
Yeah.
Doubtfire and like the stuff in basic instinct.
And I think full house on TV.
Full house.
That ones.
People going to take pictures in front of that.
Porsche 9-11 career target, yes, for 77.
Evil tenants of movies, 100%.
Annoying Yuppies in a movie, maybe.
No.
And then casual 90s racism, sadly no.
Okay.
Cruz or Hanks?
Cruz has got to play Carter.
That's it.
That's it.
I have responsibilities, Patty.
Cruz would have said no until they showed him the last scene.
So he's going to run out of the JW merit at full speed.
He's like, what?
This would have been, Cruz would have been like, this is like my Ripley.
This is great.
Cruz would have caught them
if he was running out of the Avenue
of the Stars. Also, Cruz
doing the Ice Cube scene
with DeAngelo. This is the same
year that he did Days of Thunder
and is taking a sweet and low packet
up Nicole Kidman's thigh on the inside of it.
It's like those are brother and sister scenes.
I think he could have done it.
He could have done half Ice Cube
follow by just them laughing for 20 seconds straight.
Well, there's also just a ton of cocktail
you know, like he could have thrown the champagne
glass in the air and caught it, you know?
Yeah, what would have been Cruz's skill for this?
The nail gun?
Like, I worked with a nail gun for two months.
No, I think it's mimicry.
I think it's becoming different people
to steal their identities.
That razor blade, too.
He's working that thing for a long time.
Yeah.
But he has to smoke.
Cockroach crawling on Keaton's fingers.
Cruise would have gotten into that.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's good.
The Rose from Titanic Award for character
who's sneaky sucks.
I don't know, is Drake Goodman qualifier?
He openly suck.
Yeah.
Yeah, he openly sucks, right?
Or cross-knit up.
best name for a movie from a racehorse
best name from movie for a race horse
evil tenant
sure I think is a really good Kentucky Derby name
Jim Danforth
Jim Danforth, not a great
Jim Danforth down is good
Unless you want to go with kite company
It just flies
luxury kite company
Hey we don't get to do this too often
Yeah
Really it's for CR
The Dennis Peck relationship test
Could Dennis have broken up the main relationship?
No, but I'll tell you what, Dennis would have gotten that guy out of the fucking apartment.
They just needed a dirtier cop.
That would have been the easiest way to do this.
It's just like, get a cop.
He's like, I don't give a shit what it says.
You're out of here.
I think Dennis comes over.
The guy's at the kite company job.
And what was her name in this?
Patty.
Can't get that guy out, huh?
What's your boyfriend do?
Luxury kite company, huh?
What are you doing now?
want to get a drink?
Yeah.
He's in.
I think he's in with Patty in two hours.
You're like to ride horses.
Picky Nitz.
We did a lot of these.
Carter moves in without a rental agreement.
Why didn't Drake just open the door with his keys
and kick this fucking asshole out before?
I think the first thing he does is change the locks.
Open the door.
Here's an underrated one for picking Nits.
Anytime in a movie or TV show,
somebody thinks a cat's going to be good luck.
Oh, yeah.
Never good luck.
I don't think I've ever seen a thriller
where a cat is introduced but it's like
famously bad luck
cats. You're like in fact black cats
You moved to no place with Liz
if a cat was just outside the door and was like
I brought this cat in it would be good luck
you'd be like get that fucking cat out of here
No my wife and I currently have a betting pool
on the cat in the Cape Fear TV show
Oh yeah peanut butter
Just keep sitting there on the counter I'm like
Yeah peanut butter's done
Carter Hayes' strategy is he's going to drive them in a foreclosure and pick up the property.
We think.
And get it for cheaper.
I think that there was a twofold thing.
I think it was there's the initial, like, I'm going to drive these people out and then receive the property as like my civil, like, settlement.
And then when that seems like it's not going to work.
He just shoots Drake.
I think he steals his identity.
Yeah.
Okay. And then how do they restore the house the second time after they'd been clean out?
Good call.
Living month by month.
It looks beautiful. New floors.
Maybe the Danforth estate gave them a little bit of money to shut up about it.
I feel like she should have had more money from the hotel room.
Yeah.
That should have been like $75,000 behind the city.
It looked like it was like a grand.
Like it was a small stack of hundreds.
Yeah.
Not enough.
Any other nitpicks?
We did most of them.
Not really.
I mean, we've talked about most of them, but like the identity thief who keeps his
entire life story in his suitcase and
the con man who sends
a postcard with a return address.
Do you have that in your house here?
Like just your scrapbook?
Yeah.
Spin magazine in Grantland.
Sequel prequel prestige TV
all black castor untouchable.
This has got Apple TV written all over it.
All over it.
I can't believe they haven't done it yet.
There was a
2021-22 TV series
being kicked around
that did a gender swap.
So I assume Carter would have been a lady.
All black cast would have worked too.
I mean, honestly, prequel would have worked.
Sequel absolutely would have worked if you don't kill Carter Hayes
and he just gets away Michael Meyer's style at the end.
I'm in for that.
The Carter Hayes Chronicle Prequel is good.
But all black cast, you'd then have a moment where you're like,
I guess you're thinking right now, I should have rented to the white man.
It would be all switched.
It's perfect.
Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Florist, Zane Lowe?
Robert Evans,
Dr. Charles Nickel,
the owner of the luxury cut company
or someone else.
What do you have,
I just want to say up top,
I would pay to watch a movie
where this guy tries to pull this
on either Wayne Jenkins or Fergie
as his landlord.
You're going to get out of this house for me
or I'm going to do you the way
I did your brother,
that chemical way.
But it would be cool to have Zane talk to Carter afterwards.
Like Carter, talk him out.
You've extorted.
You've trespassed.
And you've identity thieved.
What's next for you, man?
What's the next con?
And is it all a con?
This whole thing, life.
His life a con.
What do you have, Kyle?
I have, Bill, I feel like I'm going to steal yours right now.
But there's a sliding doors moment.
when Carter Hayes is running out of the hotel into the street,
if he actually goes right, he goes into a ballroom.
And the keynote speaker is Dr. Charles Nichols.
He's sitting there and he's like, Cardo, I'm in the middle of this speech.
And Carter goes, you switched off the utilities, didn't you?
You switched the utilities.
After I shot Drake, you were the only one with the access.
He stole my identity.
Did you evict the Wadernabes too?
Huh?
Did you?
And he's like, sorry, ladies and gentlemen, my friend, Carter Hayes,
that doesn't feel well.
I was going to write it to that black guy.
Yes.
But you stole it.
The application never came.
So enjoy your coffee and dessert and we'll talk.
Carter, please.
He's there.
He's always there.
That's a great one.
I thought you were going to do Gus there.
No, I had the Gus wasn't there.
But the weird thing about the ballroom is at the end of it,
Borat and Azamat run in naked, too.
Like, they just, the place comes down.
We could have done a little Ryan Rucco for
Kurt Hayes falling backwards.
Got it!
just one Oscar who gets it.
That would have been good in honor of Mo Dean, Super Nix fan.
Oh yeah.
Just one Oscar who gets it, I guess Keaton.
I guess so.
Not Han Zimmer.
Yeah.
Probably needs to answer more questions.
I only have one.
Did these two losers stay together or was it like a breakup in next two months?
I wanted to know how long you guys thought they had been together before this movie.
Like, you know, up to the point of buying the house.
Is this a one year?
One year thing?
I think it's really short.
I actually had six months.
I think they're very impulsive people.
I think it's at least you don't buy a house with somebody
unless it's two years.
In 1990?
Yeah, it's like you're two years, I think, at that point.
He was with her when she got hurt
during the equestrian race.
They realized they have absolutely nothing
to say to each other after about a week.
They don't even have like a lunch scene
where she's like, I thought I'd surprise you at work.
Oh.
No.
They don't seem to like each other that much.
She's even kind of like, what are you doing here when he shows up with the horse?
They really brought the set into the movie.
Memorability you'd most want from the movie, Kyle?
I want that little model house.
I had that little model house.
The fake Drake Goodman ID stuff.
So his visa card, like the old visa card.
Yeah.
The old bank books.
Good passport.
Finstock, Mr. Miyagi, were best, worst life lesson.
I mean, this one has a pretty obvious one.
Don't be a landlord.
Well, just don't let the person in.
Don't let do the sign of the lease.
I'll pay you later.
Like, get fucking money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kids, if you ever hear the phrase,
I don't have a traditional kind of credit run.
That's not what you want.
That's right.
Or they mention their bank in San Antonio.
You're out.
Double feature choice, would you have, KB?
Okay, so this is interesting.
I had Mr. Mom because it's really nice, fun, Michael Keaton.
But I have to tell you, I was watching the movie, Pacific Heights on Prime,
Amazon and it goes to the next movie
and the next movie was unfaithful.
And I was like, fuck, yes.
And I watched the first half hour.
It's like a con man.
It's all that.
So I went right into it and I liked it.
I had two.
One was the Money Pit from 1986, the Tom Hanks movie about
losing your mind trying to save your home.
And the other was a little bit different,
War of the Roses,
just because it's like kind of being trapped in a house with somebody.
Sure.
Yeah.
I did single-wave female.
We do the roommate tenant combo.
Let me just go.
What do you have, Craig?
For a double feature?
Probably Transformers.
It's probably one.
Who won the movie?
Keaton?
Keaton.
Michael Keaton, after Batman, another dub as a villain.
Why I like this movie.
Craig, can't wait for your take.
Here we go.
Craig loves from Hellmunk, by the way.
These are what real movies should be.
You can watch them at noon on a Monday.
They're great.
What I liked him,
this one is that there was much more mystery.
Typically, it was like domestic
disturbance or hand that rocks the cradle
and you kind of just know the motive from the beginning
and you're just waiting to get to the end.
I enjoy that this movie, they treat Keaton like Jaws a little bit.
And you're like, I don't really know what he's up to.
I don't see him a whole lot.
Who's Greg? What's going on in L.A.?
And I think it's why the whole mystery
takes you down to L.A.
And it's why that scene is so good.
But I think this is one of the more satisfying
from hell movies
because you actually get like the plot
to take this person down rather than just the big fight at the end results in the villain dying.
This was like, oh, for like 20 minutes I get Melanie Griffith actually plotting to get back
at this guy and it's working.
I feel like that was more satisfying.
Also, this movie's kind of the inspiration for the show Beef, if you think.
I mean, it's kind of like a...
From Hell Month has definitely got some of that.
It's a road rage, but for real estate kind of vibes.
And it's very relatable in that regard.
I also think it's kind of just a great look at how men and women deal with problems differently.
Yeah.
this is like a great men not being able to admit their wrong movie.
Like, I can handle this, Patty.
It's like, honey, don't you want to just pull up a map and get directions?
Like, no, no, I know how to get there.
Like, it's like basically that.
Yeah, it's a great men versus women dealing with problems movie.
Great call.
Thumbs up.
You've enjoyed from Hell Month.
It's great.
I'm having a blast.
Yeah.
These are great.
There's lots for.
Maybe this is just the rest of 2026.
What's on the horizon, though?
Well, we've done a domestic.
disturbance and the good son.
Had the rocks the cradle, single white female.
Yeah, and there's a couple
winners left. Yeah. It really is.
The one that you've mentioned. I've been scouting.
I've been scouting some other ones that I
wasn't sure. Yeah. How'd it go?
There's some bad ones.
I watched Save Me on MGM with Harry Hamlin
and Lissette Anthony. Oh, come on.
We can't do that. We have to respect.
I thought it was a...
Or we have to like, we have to do like the re-godfather
somewhere in there.
It was terrible.
To cleanse the palate.
It was truly, truly awful.
But I just, you know, I'm just looking around.
The one that you've mentioned before that I always have gotten so entertained by
is cop from hell unlawful entry.
And what's really fun about that movie is Madeline Stowe's character, is named Karen.
And so you get Ray Leota going, you're a cock deezer Karen.
And it's like right after Goodfellas.
It's awesome.
That's Kurt Russell's in that, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And then he's also in Breakdown.
He did double from hell duty.
Breakdown's one of our favorites.
Do we have a good modern from hell movie?
All these movies are from the 90s.
No, I mean, like it's going to the 2000s.
I can't remember when's the perfect getaway, like the, when's that movie?
Let me see.
No, it kind of ended in the 2000s.
Perfect getaways, 09.
I just feel like this moved to Lifetime, and then they did every single version of them.
But another one that we've talked about doing because Van Loves is the fan with Robert DeMiro.
Benicio and Wesley Snipes.
the worst ending probably of any sports movie
all the time, but it's still really fun and it's Tony Scott.
I mean, to be honest, is obsession
kind of like the girlfriend from hell?
Or the boyfriend from hell? Sure.
Obsession? You think that could be
in there? I wouldn't know. I don't know if it's from hell,
but it's pretty, it would be pretty fun
to do obsession as a rewatchable now.
This would be a good...
We haven't done a 2026 movie yet.
No.
We're due. Yeah. But it'll probably
be the Odyssey, right? I guess so.
I mean, it could be... Doing part three, Bill. Let's go.
June 3.
He's got to see the first two dunes.
Could we do it from hell?
Good morning football.
There's a new person on the show.
Former football player,
what just wants to hang out,
and then it just starts going sideways?
I have a quip, but I'm not going to say it.
Okay.
Because it would get me in trouble.
There's another one that I think I'm the only one who likes it.
But it's a great, great, great,
from hell movie that I have to recommend.
If you like my recommendations.
Sure.
Bad influence with Roblo and Joe Spader.
Oh, we were talking about this.
I think that movie's really good.
It's Curtis Hanson's first movie.
I just think it's excellent, but nobody's seen it.
That'd be great.
I haven't seen it.
We just did the entire Hanson filmography.
I think you would like bad influence.
Anyway.
All right, Kyle Brandt.
This was a pleasure, as always.
Thanks for assuming.
Thank you, CR.
Thank you, CIR.
The whole Storm family.
Thanks, Craig.
Thanks to Chris and Gahow and Eduardo as well.
And we will see you next time on the rewatchables.
Thank you.
