The Rewatchables - ‘Pineapple Express’ With Craig Horlbeck, Danny Kelly, and Danny Heifetz

Episode Date: October 18, 2022

The Ringer’s Craig Horlbeck, Danny Kelly, and Danny Heifetz feel like a ... like a slice of butter melting on top of a big ol' pile of flapjacks after rewatching ‘Pineapple Express,’ starring Se...th Rogen, James Franco, and Danny McBride. Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Today's episode of The Rewatchables It's brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network And the Ringer Fantasy Football Show Yeah I'm here at Danny Kelly and Danny Hyfitz Guys What's up? You still cranking out that
Starting point is 00:01:39 That ringer fantasy football show? How many times a week is that? Four times a week? Four times a week? All right cool, you can check that out. Coming up on today's podcast One of you two is getting the Pineapple Express The other one's getting the Snicklefritz.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Pineapple Express is next. They saw me see him shooting. What? I saw you. No. Did they follow you in? Let's get out of here! Get the snacks! Food, two robs! We are gonna hunt these guys down.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Dale, Saul, we're gonna kill them all. This is so exciting. Whoa! I've gotta get to a phone, man! Come on! No, no! I think we should stay. Why? So I'm in the dumpster already.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I fly like pipe-a-pie-guer high-light planes. If you catch me at the border, I'll be dis-in-men. How could he find us? Um, he's seeking missiles, bloodhounds, foxes, barracudas. I'm just, I'm kind of fly-ragaster. When you say, things like that. It's weird. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Not a compliment. You're in the jungle now, baby. Talk life. All right, I'm here with Danny Kelly and Danny Garagely to talk about Pine Apple Express. This movie's on Netflix right now. Also, Amazon Prime, you can rent it, but it's on Netflix. As is, this is the end.
Starting point is 00:03:23 If there was ever a time to record a podcast high out of our minds, it would be this one. Full disclosure, we're not under the influence. Well, the edible is going to kick in in like 40 minutes. That's right. The back half of this pot will get really. crazy. This movie came out 14 years ago. Yeah. In August.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Back when movies came out in theaters. Back when comedies were in theaters and actually pretty good. I wanted to start here with you two boys. Stoner movies. Is this the greatest stoner movie of all time? I wanted to run through Yeah, run through the list. This list here that I have, you tell me if you disagree if I left one out. And there are no particular order here. Dude Where's My Car, Clurks, Fast Times at Ridgemont High,
Starting point is 00:04:01 up in smoke, half-baked, Friday, Harold and Kumar go to White Castle, the Big Lobowski, and dazed and confused. Ooh. Is it the best one? Is that what you're asking? Yeah. In your opinion. I'd say no.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Which one? How many of these have you seen? The first one that actually spoke to me the most when you were reading that list was half-baked. Half-baked is amazing. It might be the era that I grew up in, but Harold and Kumar just lingers more in my mind, and I also think dazed and confused. Dazzy and Confused is the top.
Starting point is 00:04:27 It might, it's probably top five, but if it's five, it's fifth, because, I think, and then Ridgemont High, I mean, it's tough for me to put it over those. I mean, it depends on what generation you are. And yeah, how old were you when it came out? But for me, Harold and Kumar in just my...
Starting point is 00:04:42 This movie doesn't hit this... Like, Harold and Kumar from the beginning when he leaves his phone behind, that one's still like... Also just White Castle in general. I think my friends and I quoted half-baked more than maybe any other movie
Starting point is 00:04:53 during that era. Do you think this movie is more about weed itself than any other Stoner film? Is there more weed in this movie? They spent a lot of time just smoking weed. The whole movie is about weed. The movie, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yeah, I mean, it's funny, because it's like a silly stoner movie, but it's also like kind of trying to deliver a message about marijuana. It's like kind of a propaganda film. It was ahead of its time. Like, this is going to be legalized. Yeah. Criminalizing weed. It leads to violence and corruption.
Starting point is 00:05:20 We got to deal with our drug dealers instead of just buying it a dispensary, whatever. Have you guys ever seen true romance? Oh, man, a long time ago. It was Tarantino's first script you ever wrote. But Brad, there's a Brad Pitt. character in it, who's this hilarious stoner. That's what Judd Appetow said that this movie was based on.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It was the Brad Pitt character. He wishes that the movie just stuck with Brad Pitt. And he was like, I would love to see a movie where the cops are chasing Brad Pitt, which is essentially this movie. Because this movie's really like a, it's like a buddy action comedy. Right. It's just about like friendship. These guys get themselves into a pickle. Yeah. You know, they actually eat pickles later during the pickle. So it's like kind of meta. Yeah. It's just like
Starting point is 00:05:56 a, I mean, honestly, the list of buddy action movies that have come out since this movie is a small list that are actually good. Right. To think of, like, the nice guys with, like, Russell Crow and Ryan Gossing. Like, this movie is equally to me as much of a buddy cop type movie. I know they're not cops, just as much as it is a stoner film. Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's actually better if you look at it like that.
Starting point is 00:06:16 In terms of just being a comedy, this movie came out in 08 when just comedies were fucking humming. Oh, yeah. Where did this sit for you two in, like, the Apatow run from kind of the early 2000s to, you know, 2013, 24? 14. So I think for me, I very vividly remember when, and again, you kind of spoke to it, but like during that era, they were just cranking out the funniest movies like over and over. And it was like, I remember seeing the preview for this, the trailer. I was like, fuck yeah, like another one. This looks amazing. I just remember being so excited about that. And I can't remember, honestly, the last time I felt like that. Like, it's been a while since we've seen anything
Starting point is 00:06:55 of that brand, I guess, you know, that style. Totally. And so this was the golden age of those types of types of movies and there's a golden age of like, comedy trailers and stuff. I don't know. To me, that was like, that's really what I first remember. I have a whole thing here about the trailer. Do you remember when the trailer came out? Do you remember when the trailer came out? Well, do we want to do that now? We're going to do that now. We're going to do that now. Yeah, let's do the trailer the
Starting point is 00:07:15 the first trailer, the most influential trailer of the 21st century. Influential? Literally, it created, no, it's because paper planes, the song by MIA. It's not even in the movie. Yeah. But the trip, that song blew up from the movie. Yeah. And I I really kind of think
Starting point is 00:07:31 if you polled people do you like this song? Yes or no? For every song in the world Paper Planes might literally be the most highest approved song for people under 40 years old.
Starting point is 00:07:40 It is like it captures like 2008, 9, I would say better than any song for just like transporting you back. Yeah. Paper Plains became a top five song I like the Billboard top of 100.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It had been out for like a year yeah at that point. I totally agree with you. I mean influential, I don't know, but like... Right. Well, I just mean terms of the song. I just mean that song, I can't think any trailer that has a legacy.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It's the most memorable trailer I've ever read. When I hear that song, I think about that trailer, and I don't know if I have that with any other song in the world. It's just that in the Wolf of Wall Street trailer with Black Skinhead. Black Skinhead from Kanye West. Those are the only ones where the song was intertwined with the trailer. I can just picture the clip where Seth Rogen is opening the trunk and the camera angle is from the trunk, like from that trailer.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Like I can still picture that. That's the first thing I think of. It's literally the per. It's almost like as if the song was made for the trip. Right. And they did such a good job of intertwining, like, the shotgun noises or whatever, the gunshots and the cash machines during the trailer into like the action and everything. Like, it was a brilliantly made trailer. So, wait, yeah, Hyvitz, I wanted to know, comedies, 2000s.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Where's this that for you? Well, I'm a pretty basic 27-year-old white dude, and I grew up on Will Ferrell movies. And then I just transitioned to the Seth Rogen movies. Yeah. And I actually didn't get to see a ton of already comedies in the theater. and so I think I was behind on like the knocked up but I think I saw this one later this one I did not see in the theater
Starting point is 00:09:04 I think I probably saw this right before I went to see This Is the End which I came out in 2013 so I guess I watched this when I was a little older So you watched it like way later I don't think it's as developed I think when I see this I just see the proto
Starting point is 00:09:21 or primordial soup version of this is the end which is like one of my favorite movies and I see like all the ingredients here but it's like a super chili that kind of needs a day or two to get it's, you let it sit for a day or two and it's better and I kind of feel like it's like a chili with like one,
Starting point is 00:09:35 like it just made it, but you let it age a little better. I do agree with that. I think upon revisiting this movie, I like it even more than I did, but I think that's because I was, I was just about to enter high school when this movie came out,
Starting point is 00:09:47 which are you or year before me? Were you entering seventh grade or eighth grade when this came out? Yeah, yeah, because you're class of 27, 2016, 2016, yeah. Yeah, I'm a year younger than you. Yeah, so, like...
Starting point is 00:09:57 I had never smoked pot, like, when this movie actually came out. Oh, same. So it really spoke to speak to you in the same way, right? Totally. Yeah, so, like, this movie came out, 08. I was just about to start my freshman year of high school, and, like, all my friends were, like, just getting into weed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It was like a big deal, like, oh, we're going to go. More than anything, this movie, weirdly almost... Because there wasn't, like, a ton of discourse around weed when I was, like, in middle school. It's not like somebody really spoke about that much you heard about kids smoking weed, but, like, you know, we weren't talking to our parents about or anything like that. this movie, for better or for worse, taught us that, like, weed was okay. It's not like a big deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. It honestly, like, made us feel comfortable with the idea of smoking weed. Well, I want to step on what age the best, but the second scene where he calls in, he's like, if weed isn't legalized in five years, I'm going to... Right. I mean... It's clearly... And Seth Rogen is, like, the biggest, like, legalized marijuana advocate out there.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It's a business. It's a brand now for him. Yeah. Seriously, he, like, has his own line of... Company. ...parapapapery and stuff like that. We were so spoiled at this time when movies is coming out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Yeah, seriously. I mean, I'm just looking at, honestly, just even looking at Seth Rogen, what he's done. And I'm just like taking him off. He had a small part in Anchorman, 40-year-old virgin, knocked up super bad, stepbrothers. What was he in stepbrothers? He's the guy who interviews them with the tuxedo. Oh, yeah, right. Now that took Cetus Duce seem kind of fucked up Yeah We could hang out Like you seem like pretty normal gut Yeah okay But like man it was like again
Starting point is 00:11:19 It was just one after another And it was like that was the golden age Of like that type of comedy I just remember again Go back to the trailer Like I was so stoked Any of these movies came out Like when's next one gonna come out
Starting point is 00:11:29 They like made like two year two a year And it was everyone was so good Yeah I mean knocked up came Appetal was on Bill's Pod Not that long ago And they were talking about it And knocked up came out Two months later
Starting point is 00:11:40 Superbad came out, and they originally wanted to have Pineapple come out three months after that. Yeah. But they ended up holding it a year. They actually wrote this script before Superbad even, because they couldn't get Superbad made. So they were like, all right, I guess we'll figure something else out. But on, so actually on the Superbad pod of the rewatchables that
Starting point is 00:11:56 Bill, Sean, and Chris did, Bill made his list of the top comedies of the 21st century, and it's six. And it's super bad, the hangover, stepbrothers, Anchorman, Bridesmaids, and Borat. Boorat, nice. Pineapple Express is definitely in the tier below. I would add personally
Starting point is 00:12:12 for getting Sarah Marshall into that group. I agree. I think it's that good. And I think, D.K., you'd probably put wedding crashes in there. I freaking love wedding crashes. I think it's two notches below. I think that as much as I love this movie and I love all the ingredients, I think that those movies are start to finish.
Starting point is 00:12:28 They don't lose you for a moment. And kind of like everything is funny and everything's quotable. Pineapple isn't quite there. I agree. I agree. I think one of the more interesting things about pineapple is I'm just, I agree with you. It's not as like slapstick funny. It is more of like sit back, kind of sink into your couch and watch it. Yeah. But I'm just kind of transfixed the whole time by how good James Franco is as Saul.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Saul is incredible in this movie. And I also read that he doesn't actually smoke weed. No, Franco doesn't smoke weed. He's stunning. Isn't that insane? That's the upset of the so people get mad at us if I hadn't smoked weed when I saw this movie because the literal lead actor did not either. Yeah. But I was thinking of why I don't think, like, why some of these movies don't resonate like super bad. and I think it's because maybe this is an oversimplification but Superbad, a lot of the Judd-Apital comedies are on the surface about one thing
Starting point is 00:13:16 but when you really dig into it, it's about something deeper, you know, Superbad is ostensibly about a bunch of high schoolers wanted to have sex. Right. But in reality it's about two friends who are trying to come to terms with what the next chapter of their lives are as they go to different colleges. Plot versus story, right? Plot versus story, exactly. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:34 knocked up is a story about somebody becoming an adult, you know, a man child becoming a man. I don't know if there's a ton in this movie that's deeper than what it is, which is just like two guys who are high and one witness to murder. That's okay, but I think that I agree with you that the reason I think it's a level below, first of all, it's a level below some of their other stuff because the other stuff's incredible, but it feels like they filmed the draft. Like, it feels like they're like this is the first script that they ended up finishing because it feels like if they, one, I think all the actors
Starting point is 00:14:03 could get together and they could make a better movie day. I think all these people are much funnier on camera now. Danny McBride, Craig Robinson. Like, all these people are so much funnier now. And then I feel like there's just a lot of meat left on the bone. Like, the friendship, it's like they clearly, I think they had, he hadn't even been buying from this drug dealer for a long time. Two months.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Because I think they wanted to capture that, which they did really well, the awkwardness of like buying and you're like, are we, I'm chill. Are we going to continue to talk here? Yeah, like the leave. But the problem is like, I don't really ever buy the buddy and the buddy cop. That's kind of my, like, one issue I have. And I think there are a lot of see, and a lot of the Appetatine movies do this. I think it's just, and down, downstream of just improvving a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:43 But there's a lot of seeds in the beginning that never, that could just kind of come full circle and they kind of don't. Like, the whole thing. I think that's the point, though. So here, here's where I'd push back on what you guys are saying a little bit. Just so I think Superbad was about friendships and getting ready to, like, go out into the world, right? Like, oh, they're getting, they're scared that they're going to go to college and their friendship's going to end or whatever. And then knocked up is like essentially getting forced into adulthood quicker than you want. To me, this movie is about like sort of the aimlessness of your 20s, like your mid-20s,
Starting point is 00:15:16 where you don't know what you're going to do. You don't know what your career is going to be. How many murders did you witness when you were high in your time? Well, there's that one part that's like not actually, like, it doesn't apply to me. But like, I think on some level, I can, like, this resonates with me because I was, I'm literally the same age as Joe Rogan, or Joe Rogan. I'm Seth Rogan. And so, like, I was 26 when he was 26.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Like, I was this, I was sort of like almost living this life. Not to the extent of like what he's doing. But like, I was working this like legal litigation job where I would go around to like all these different law firms. Like I was just like a total idiot like walking into like with all these professional people around me. I didn't know what I wanted to do. I was smoking 10 joints in the car and calling talk radio. I was never a big pothead. But like I could relate to sort of the aimlessness, uncertainty.
Starting point is 00:15:59 You know, you're. And I almost see this as a spiritual. sequel to Superbad but like maybe Evan just like decided he's just like got a job but like Seth is now just like doing whatever like he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and this is like
Starting point is 00:16:13 seven or eight years later after you know that movie ended and stuff so I don't know to me this is like I could it resonates with me because I was that age like I was literally the same age as Joe and you were dating a high school or Seth Rogen I keep following Joe Rogan Seth Rogen also I just think the subject matter of this movie is quite literally just more narrow
Starting point is 00:16:30 it's like harder I think this movie is kind of a cult hit because I don't think the audience is as wide who wants to see this movie. You find like somebody's dad out there and like you put on knocked up, they would laugh at it. Super bad. They would laugh at it. It's like if they're somebody's like not really into weed,
Starting point is 00:16:45 maybe they wouldn't be interested in this movie. Or also like maybe they just knew what they wanted to do when they were 22 years old and they never did this stage in their life, you know? Yeah, I just think it's like slightly less relatable. And it's more, I mean, a stoner movie should be kind of a cult hit more than it should be some mega blockbuster, you know? I mean,
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it definitely, like, spoke to me. But not in this, not, maybe like, just I was like, again, I was like that age. Like, that was the, I was the target audience right then. But also, at the end of the day, I agree with the first point you made that this doesn't actually have to be about, like, anything deep. It's basically just, this is a funny situation. These two idiots get themselves into it.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And, like, let's see where it goes. It's just a, it's just a funny script and a funny idea. And they all become best friends in the media. I just wish that, like, the title is Pineapple Express. And the first 10, I forget it, 10 minutes, whatever, the guy picks up the joints, like Pineapple Express. And at that point, every time I watch the movie, honestly, I always think that something about the strand of weed being developed by the military, it's going to come back around that it's like the best kind. Yeah, item, yeah, give you the name, item nine. And I always think it's more important to the plot than it ever is.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And they just kind of never, and that's all. Every time I watch it, I always forget that from the moment he picks it up is like, pineapple express. That's kind of the end of the strain of weed being important at all. It's like being high. You know, the thought goes in your head and leaves the next second. Yeah, why did we even need to get it? You know, in college, I went to, I dressed up as Saul and Dale for Halloween with my buddy Chris. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah. Which one were you? I was Franco. Nice. Yeah. Just like the pajamas. My buddy sounds exactly like Rogan, so it really worked. Maybe I'll put the photo on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It's more funny. I wanted to talk about the cast a little bit. So obviously, Rogan, this was like, he did knocked up. That was his first lead role. Now he's doing this. have you guys always felt that Rogan was the straight man in all these movies
Starting point is 00:18:35 and was always has always been the least funny of all the guys in the movies he's in but he's the architect and the writer behind it so you kind of like well he's the least slapstick or whatever the least
Starting point is 00:18:46 because oh it's so glad you said this because I kind of I feel like he's in ways to me the weak link of the movie he's like weirdly the character I laugh the least well he has to move the story forward you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:18:58 if you just hung out with Saul a day nothing will get done Like Dale is the guy who has to take you from A to B to C. I think that Rogan in this So I guess originally Seth Rogan wrote this movie and assumed that he would be playing the drug dealer And they were going to have a straight man
Starting point is 00:19:13 It was going to be James Franco would play the lead And they switched it because Franco was so good As Saul I'm happy they did that I don't think Rogan would have been good at Saul I agree Can I give you a hot take? I actually think they could have done a triple swapparoo
Starting point is 00:19:29 I think another version of this movie that would be pretty good is Seth Rogen stays the drug dealer and Danny McBride is the straight man and Danny McBride's the one walking around the high school yelling at teachers and he's too old I feel like He's at the same age
Starting point is 00:19:44 Well he looks older But either way I think that Danny McBride Rogan buddy cop Something about McBride's a little meaner A little sharper like it's more believable When he's hurting the feelings And then James Franco is red And James Franco just kind of comes in
Starting point is 00:19:58 as the heat check drug, like he's the guy ratting them out. And I kind of, in a way, I've wondered if that might be, if Rogan as the straight guy was necessarily going to be the best. I think Franco is, like, pulls off one of the better comedic performances
Starting point is 00:20:13 of the 21st century of this movie. Oh, wow. I think Saul's character, the more, I don't know what it is, the second, third, and fourth, and fifth time I watched it preparing for this movie.
Starting point is 00:20:23 My second most favorite civil engineer. Like this bunch of little, like, weird, just one-off thing. Well, that's all him. Apparently, this, when this, like, role of Saul was, like, much more bare bones. And Franco, because he's, like, a... I mean, listen, Franco has a lot of sexual misconduct allegations. A lot of bad stuff has come out about him after this movie in the last 10 years.
Starting point is 00:20:44 We're just going to talk about him in this movie. Right. But he's a very eclectic dude. He, like, like, soap operas. He writes poetry. He has, you know, gone to college a million times. He really, like, takes odd approaches to a lot of his roles. He, like, completely created this entire person.
Starting point is 00:20:58 backstory for Saul. He came up with the bubby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is flawless. That, like, wasn't a thing. Him liking civil engineering and wanting to build septic tanks for children's parks so kids can take shits? That is the most specific thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:21:15 My second favorite. It's also he started selling weed because his grandma just won't die. He's like, I'm trying to keep her. He's like, I just need to get through this until she dies and then I can continue to be like a civil engineer or whatever. So kids can
Starting point is 00:21:28 take shits is one of the funny good one but anyway yeah I've always thought that Rogan it's like I never wanted to admit it because I thought people would be upset by it but I just always think Rogan is kind of the guy who's there so everybody else can have a good time on screen
Starting point is 00:21:42 the every man I think that's true and also because it's kind of like Daddy Kelly it's like he laughs a lot so much that his laugh is just it's better for him to be laughing oh god Craig just like that's pretty good line was blown you are the Rogan oh wow great laugh the thing about Franco I I think this is probably
Starting point is 00:21:58 an iconic, I use that word a lot well not wait, but this word gets thrown around a lot on this podcast of iconic, but I will say the aesthetic, it starts, it's perfect. And I guess the headband actually happened in part because he hit his head on the set. On a tree. It's just, it's when you close your minds and think of someone you might buy weed from, like
Starting point is 00:22:14 Franco kind of just captures that with this, with everything. Also, like, I had this in what's age the best, but a drug dealer having a pretty close relationship with his grandmother is kind of weirdly so perfect. They always just have like something one-off thing about them and him just being like tomorrow morning I gotta go change the clocks for my bubby you're like all right that does
Starting point is 00:22:33 make sense yeah yeah uh this movie 26 million dollar budget made 102 million uh according to rogan set rogan the ideal production budget was 40 million but due to the subject matter of the film it couldn't get any more money it couldn't get anymore that's why they couldn't make the sequel to roger ebert three and a half stars he liked it loved it i read the the review he says pineapple expresses all the elements you'd expect from the genre male bonding immature sexual desires verbal scatology. I know what that word means, totally. 100%.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah, same. D.K.? The study of shit. There it is. Yeah. Formerable drug abuse, fight scenes, gunfire explosions. Yon, not this time. It's a quality movie, even if the material is unworthy of the treatment. As a result, yes, it's a druggie comedy that made me laugh.
Starting point is 00:23:16 He loves the director, too. David Gordon Green. Yes. He was like, I love this guy's work beforehand. And this is like a weed movie made by an otter. Like, I don't know if he really... Yeah, he was like an... indie drama director and then did this movie.
Starting point is 00:23:30 He's done some of the newer Halloween films. But yeah, this movie, one other thing about this movie is it's like really well made. It's well shot. Right. Yeah, I saw Seth Rogen said that even the people who hate this movie admit that it's really, really well made. It is. I mean, the action sequences like that. They're pretty good.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah, it's just like, it's just done really well. I mean, the car chase, it's not like the best car chase scene ever, but the foot kicked him trying to kick the windshield out and his foot getting stuck in the windshield. Just one, the shot of it is funny. And two, actually one of the best funniest visuals in a car chase I've ever seen. Oh, amazing. It's like the shot of from the outside of just the foot through the wind. It's iconic. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I think I pulled my groin. Like, can you imagine if a car windshield actually did like broke that way, that manner? Just like right through. That's one of my favorite things. Like the shortcut to my funny bonus is anytime you do something that happens in a lot of action movies and it just doesn't work. Like when you try to kick a door down. down and it just hurts your foot. Anything like that.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Well, that's kind of, this whole movie is kind of like a subversive action film, like how they just keep finding guns all over the place. That's the best. You know what I mean? We're stepping on a lot of them. He's like out of air. We're stepping on a lot of my favorite things about this movie. All right.
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Starting point is 00:27:02 You guys let me know what I missed. The first one. Just the scene, the opening scene in black and white from 1937. Oh, my God. Item nine. He's so good. Every time I think about this movie or I watch this movie, I completely forget this scene exists.
Starting point is 00:27:15 When it started, I was like, why is this the old Columbia Pictures logo? Yeah. And why is this black and white? Hater had a run. I feel like Hater took longer to kind of become the guy for a long time. So he was always just like the weird bit part. Yeah. It's like Hot Rod.
Starting point is 00:27:28 The best cameo in every movie during that era. Yeah, forgetting Sir Marshall, he's the dude on the Zoom with his wife. Super bad, he's the cop. I feel like a slice of butter just melting on him. Big old pile of flapjacks. You've been smoking item 9 for 7 minutes and 13 seconds. We're going to ask you several questions. How do you feel?
Starting point is 00:27:48 Well, sir, I feel like a slice of butter. Melton on top of the big old. pile of flapjacks. Did you guys know before this, before doing the research that this was like a reference to that movie Reefer Madness in 1936, which is an anti-weep propaganda movie? That makes sense. I had no idea. The way he reacts to the guy in the underwater suit, whatever the, I don't know, deep sea
Starting point is 00:28:18 diving equipment, he's like, holy Jesus. He's like, pah! You spark me? Can you spark me? he's only been smoking it for like eight minutes they said he's already got like the whole like jargon down it's so good oh my god that's just one of the i always think about scenes like that and like with the studio being like we cut this and they're like no we're not cut this we can't cut this uh so that's the first one the next one i could see people not having this but i love it the high school scene the first high school scene where he goes to see his girlfriend amber heard which why is he dating a high schooler i feel like that was never fully explained i read and i apologize because because I don't remember what movie they were worried they were stepping on.
Starting point is 00:28:58 But the script originally was like, his girlfriend is older in her career, really buttoned up, like really knows what she wants to do in life. It's knocked up. But then, well, I guess, kind of. But that's not the one that they mentioned. I'll have to look it up.
Starting point is 00:29:12 But basically they were like, okay, we don't want to like basically rip off that plotline. So then they made her in high school instead. Like a really mature high schooler. Yeah, they make a point of saying she's 18 years old. Right. But, man, I was going to skip over this scene. but for something.
Starting point is 00:29:26 It's just making out with her like hard in the hallway. Also just nothing? 25 years old. The difference between a 25 year old and a senior in high school feels like 30 years. Yeah. he couldn't get into a high school now. You literally can't get in.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I think the kid and that scene is fucking hysterical. Yeah, dude, next year. Next year, college, man. College. Yeah, dude, it's going to be kick ass. I will watch her back for you. Because I know there's like tons of guys that are going to be trying to get on that shit. So. Oh, good. Because I'll got that. Yeah. Oh, you got her ass. Perfect. I'll watch her ass for. Good.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I'll catch you at Homeck. All right. Oh, you guys got Homeck together, too. That's cool. Yeah, yeah. We got a few classes together. Good. Nice to meet you, man.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Time to suck today's dick. That's what I'm talking about. That's right. That's right. That's right. Time to suck today's dick. That's what they say in that year. Yeah, he was great.
Starting point is 00:30:22 She's like, that almost made me pee my pants. He's like, oh, I wish. Dude, I wanted to tell you, you were hilarious today in drama class. Seriously, your Jeff Goldblum impression made me pee my pants. Seriously. I wish. And Rogan's like, what? There's like the perfect quick shot of Rogan.
Starting point is 00:30:39 What was it? The lady's like, you know, he's just all these high school guys, you know, they're so jacked. Do such great Goldblum impressions. Fuck Jeff Goldblum. Yeah, I also love when he cusses out the principal. I just, I wonder if they added that because they thought, like, man, outside of school, principals really have no power. And it's pretty fun to actually see that.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Also, that guy was totally right. Who? Yeah, the guy being like, you know, you should probably not date this guy. They made him look like an asshole. He's like, yeah, totally, totally on the right side there. Joe La Trulio. Yeah. Another epic cameo guy.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah, super bad as well. During that era. Yeah. All right, next one here. Buying weed from Saul. This is my favorite. This is top two for me. Careful with that thing, man.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Here's the cash. Grab the stash. All righty, man. Thanks. Have a good one. yourself. Adios. Hey, wait a minute, man. Let's smoke this fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I can't, man. I got a... I can't even light this thing on my own. Yeah, I need your help, man. I'm in. Go on! Dude, why not? Let's do it. Yeah. Just saw watching the show 227, which is like a 1980s sitcom.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Oh, he looked up the show. Nice. Yeah, and he's like doing the quotes. He's like, I thought Hurricane Seams was over. and he's drinking red wine Like I just love everything about this guy What time of days is like 3 o'clock They perfectly captured That awkwardness of just buying drugs For instance
Starting point is 00:32:04 Everything about it is just Also just like the pure idiocy Of being in your 20s And like I even love how they both think about Like the way they think about their careers It's kind of like simple and refreshing It only sucks You know I go visit her in high school
Starting point is 00:32:22 and all the guys she goes to school with are, like, strong and, like, handsome and really, like, funny. Like, do good impressions of Jeff Goldblum and shit like that. And, like, I just feel like a fat, dumb, fucking stinky ass turd when I'm there. It really, it sucks for my ego. Fuck Jeff Goldblum, man. That's what I say. You know, don't get down on yourself. You've got a great girl.
Starting point is 00:32:43 You got a great job or you don't do anything. You get to smoke weed all day. I wish I had that. Are you kid? You do. You have the easiest. on earth. You do smoke weed all day. That's true.
Starting point is 00:32:56 You didn't think of that. I don't know. The only purpose in life at that age is just like, just make enough money to be able to buy weed, right, just to get through the day. I also love how easily he's peer pressured into smoking. He's like, I got to go. All right, I'll stay. And he's like, but, come on. The cross joint. We actually
Starting point is 00:33:12 tried to fashion the cross joint in high school. Did you? It was very difficult. You know, I stepping on the half-assed internet research, but they Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg had to roll all the cross joints moved in the movie
Starting point is 00:33:25 Why did they need a hundred to do this scene? They probably didn't they just had them pay for a hundred and then they just rolled and they just kept like 75 of them You gotta get the experts to do it I mean who is better equipped to do it than those two.
Starting point is 00:33:37 None of the people on the second dude except them. That whole scene is fantastic the dude the other guys coming in to buy weed and the one dude that's for percassettes Yeah that whole scene I'm again I have questions
Starting point is 00:33:49 about so many things in this scene, but I want to talk about it later. Oh, what, Picking Nits? What do you got? Give me one. Pick it Nits. What, okay, I'm just going to step on it because it's, it drove me crazy throughout the movie. What time period was this movie set? There were so many times where I was like, what is this? Because there's like, modern day.
Starting point is 00:34:09 There's mullets. There's rat tails. The guy who comes in that wants Percocet has like the most ridiculous rat tail I've ever seen my life. Like, you haven't seen that since 1986. And I don't know what Percocet, you know, people, asking for perkinsets from their week deal
Starting point is 00:34:23 I don't know Maybe they got rat tails My first thought was like Okay maybe this is just like What L.A. was like in 2008 Like much of hipsters I imagine you know They're in like some city in the valley
Starting point is 00:34:31 In L.A. But there's like also A high prevalence of like Early 80s cars Throughout the movie sprinkled in There's like an 84 like civic hatchback Pulling this giant boat Halfway through the movie
Starting point is 00:34:43 It's just like What year is this? I'm very confused There's a dust buster Like on the wall in Red's house I literally I found myself thinking, like, wait, they've got cell phones. So this is obviously set in present time.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah. But, like, he's wearing British knights. What's going on? Oh, that's actually because Seth Rogan loves... Yeah. Seth Rogan were British knights. I just, to me, there was a lot of anachronisms. But maybe it was on purpose, just like, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:35:08 But, like, or maybe there's just a bunch of hipsters in L.A. at that time. Or it's just a bunch of loser guys who just inherited all this stuff from their grandparents because they don't have any money. They're wearing, like, really long jean shorts. It's just like, what year is this? Two guys who walk in are the most bizarre cameo I may have ever seen. It's funny that you say that, D.K., because I had the opposite feeling, which is I felt that there were a few things in this that really placed it in, like, 2007-ish, 2008.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Well, there's definitely are. Like, you can tell it's from that, but there's also all these weird, random other things sprinkled in. Yeah, I'm just such a sucker for when he throws up on the printer. He's like, sorry, chicken fries. I'm like, you break my printer? She's in the motel, and there's a UFC fight. It's like Chuck Liddell versus Rampage Jackson. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:53 That's the good stuff. Those are the good details. But to me, it's like, why is Red have, like, a thick mullet perm? Like, that's from early 80s. I think it's, I think, just hipsters, I guess. Whatever. Next scene is, so he witnesses the Ted Jones murder. He runs back to Saul's house and they go to the woods.
Starting point is 00:36:12 That's where we get, we meet Red. They phone called a Red. Red's in his kimono and Ugs, which is, The ugs are great. Probably the funniest combination of clothing you could ever wear. The smashing of their phones. Yeah. So I'm just thinking, like, maybe they can triangulate these things, man, or, like, you know, like, trace them, right?
Starting point is 00:36:32 They totally, that's how they got Saddam. Right. Fuck. You're right, man. Well, maybe they can, like, even trace them, like, when we're not even on them. You know? Maybe if we bury them under the dirt, the reception will get cut off, and they won't be able to do it. Tie it to an animal and, like, be, like, diversion.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Disraction will never catch an animal. The squirrel would be up in the tree, and they think we were in the tree. They think we were in the tree. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We'll build a hot air balloon in... And then just... No. We'll smash them.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna smash it on a rock. Okay, good idea. Right here. You get out here. Good thinking. Huh! Yeah, get it.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Die! Yes! Whoa! What fuck was that? I was trying to hit that tree. I missed. What tree? That one.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Why didn't you smash it on a rock like a normal person? Like I do. I don't know. How often does somebody smash things? I'm rusty. Man, did you at least see where it landed? they could triangulate That's how they got Saddam
Starting point is 00:37:21 Oh my God Yeah that's another The car battery dying Your car commits suicide Yeah Fantastic seed Anything else on that one Barracudas
Starting point is 00:37:34 Foxes What else do you say Franco actually trips on that scene It hits a tree That's where he hits his head Yeah That's how I feel sometimes In the fantasy football show
Starting point is 00:37:44 I'm just counting off things And you guys like Wow I'm like actually concerned for you when you talk like that. Yeah. Next scene here, the cop scene that leads to the chase. The foot through the windshield
Starting point is 00:37:55 scene. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. That would be the top of my list. The foot through the windshield is the all-time scene. Shit, I can't see the splenchy. It's done on the wipers. It's not working. But kick out the window, isn't that what they do?
Starting point is 00:38:06 I don't know. How do you drive with the one foot? I don't know. Oh, no. Fuck, I think I pulled my groin. I think it's the most iconic shot of the film. Yeah. my ass off. I was cackling during that scene. Yeah, the red slushy.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Get your foot out of there. It's his luck. He's just like, and he's using his left foot to put on the gas? It's his wrong foot. It's the right foot. It's through the windshield. It's unbelievable impressive that he's driving. He's driving left foot. He would have immediately crashed. Get it out of there. I just love that so much.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Next scene I have here is it's a bit later, but it's quick. Finding red wedged between the toilet, Seth Rogen. my list too. One of the best scenes. There's a bowl of, the production design in this movie is impeccable.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Like the minor details how they decorate everyone's house. When he's wedged in between that toilet, there's just like a fresh bowl of noodles sitting on the toilet. It looks like he's been shot and been walking. That's where he went. I also, Danny McBride is so good.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And he, when he's sitting there and he's like, look, man, I'm into Buddhism. I'm at peace. You know, me as like this person, probably not going to be around. Yeah, he's like into reincorriended. Carnation. I'm going to come back as something else. And Seth Rogen's like, yeah, but if you're an asshole,
Starting point is 00:39:23 you're going to come back as like a cockroach or an anal bead. He's like, well, whose anal bead? He's like mine. Like, all right, I'd be a dragon. This also leads right into, I think, one of the funniest, like, mini montage of the movie. Them, the Rogan and Red getting ready to
Starting point is 00:39:39 gear up to go to the warehouse. Come here. Ted Jones mess with the wrong melon farmers. Dog life. And for some reason, Red has like an armada of guns he has a hole in the wall that he has all his guns in. Yeah, we get thug life which
Starting point is 00:40:06 lived on for a long time. Don't. Don't. Don't you do it. Something quick like that, yeah, don't. And he pulls out the little gun, he's like, I used this when I was a prostitute. I don't want to run it over with the vacuum later and shoot my face off. I wish I could just get all
Starting point is 00:40:22 the bloopers from every single thing that they ran through for those guys. You can clearly tell that was fully improvised that scene. I mean, him pulling out out the gun and saying the prostitute line had to be improvised. The don't. No one's right and don't in a script.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Don't. Yeah, something like that. And then only two more here. I mean, the hideout shootout thing is like borderline the last like 30 minutes of the movie. It's a really long sequence. It's too long.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I do like it. I feel like the most common criticism of this movie is like... It's a bit long. Well, they're just like, this movie just turns into like a Tarantino film for the last 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:40:55 You can kind of turn it off when they go to Raid the Farmhouse and I don't think you're missing it done. I don't know. Skip to the last scene. I'm good with it. I think it's funny still. Yeah, I don't mind it.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I think it's funny. I think if you have, like, you're right, though, it gets a little graphic. Sure. Like, it's like, whoa, like when he shoots Matheson's foot off. Or sorry, when he shoots, yeah, that's right. He shoots Matheson's foot off. Like, that was like, whoa, shit. Where did that capture?
Starting point is 00:41:17 He started dead. Yeah. So, yeah, there's definitely some, like, you know, excessive violence maybe, but I think it's all, like, part of the whole. It turns into, like, a leek of weapon movie. Yeah. Which I kind of like it. I don't know. I think if you're sitting this just kind of ripped,
Starting point is 00:41:33 it just makes more sense. It's just funnier. It's a hard pivot into a different style of movie. Yeah, and we haven't talked about... It's the kind of stuff that's funnier when you're high, when you're watching. We haven't talked about Ted Jones at all. It was kind of like an electric villain in this movie. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Stole every scene he was in, Gary Cole. Yeah, I love them finding the guns everywhere, like we said earlier. They're just like a lot of... Well, they run out of bullets when they're downstairs, and then they're like, oh, look, there's lots more hanging out. like hanging on the wall, sweet. Like, it's really just like they love the trope of like cocking the gun. I have that on another list later.
Starting point is 00:42:10 There's also, there's a lot of weird references in this movie about people having wives and needing to like call their wives and get home to their wives. It's really a Judd Apatow theme like he's screaming something. Yeah, like McBride is like, I'm going to go call my wife. Kevin Corrigan's constantly trying to get home to his wife. Yeah. I like that at the end, like before the final shootout, he's just like, I'm going to go home to my fucking wife.
Starting point is 00:42:28 if you guys fucking shot I'm tired just want to go eat dinner with my wife apparently I didn't notice this in the movie but apparently Red's wife there's like a picture of her on the wall and it's Stormy Daniels
Starting point is 00:42:43 yeah yeah which is unbelievable great they should have leaned into that he's like I want to have sex with my wife I don't want to wake up murdered I'm going I'm going to go call my wife on the phone don't listen to any of the words I'm saying
Starting point is 00:42:54 yeah that's great and then after that the final diner scene which 100% needs to be included in this. Oh, I had that on my list. So good. You threw an ashtray in his face. You hit me, man. At the time, I was like, whoa, but I was kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:43:07 You hit me with the dustbuster, you know? I didn't want to hurt you, but it was like, you better fucking not leave here. That was such a good fight, man. That was pretty. The car chase was pretty awesome. You guys got to do a fucking car chase. Yeah. Oh, you're fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah, it was pretty, really. Oh, my God. I, like, had my foot through the window. Oh, my groin. I mean, I felt like a wishbone. Completely improvised this scene. You know what I noticed about it is they did the movie, the final scene of the film is them doing the most rewatchable scene
Starting point is 00:43:39 for the movie they were just in. They literally run through all the funny shit that they did in the movie. To me, this is the most relatable, ubiquitous scene in the entire movie because, again, going back to my time, that era of my life, going to the diner the next morning when you're completely hungover and you're like talking to your friends about what happened last night holy shit, do you remember when you did this or whatever?
Starting point is 00:44:01 Like that is to me the most accurate part of this whole movie. Like, this is exactly what these characters do. I think that's everyone's favorite part of like male friendship is just or just, I don't know, maybe just friendship in general. It's just like the next morning after. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Rehashing is more fun than the night itself. You almost, you just, you need to have a fun crazy night just so you can go to the diner the next thing. Yeah. Like to me again, this is like seeking out adventure, seeing where the night takes us.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Obviously, I'm not getting into shootouts and shit like this, but like, well, it's on a different level where you're like, holy crap, I can't remember. I forgot about that last night. You remember when we did that? Oh, it's the best.
Starting point is 00:44:32 You never laugh harder than like a hungover Sunday morning at a breakfast place. That was the most relatable. To me, that's actually the most. It's also kind of like everyone brings all the puzzle pieces and then you guys are just putting the puzzle together. Rebuilding the evening. Very hungover. The three pieces of the heart.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah. I want the middle one. What was your guys' go-to breakfast spot at when you were hungover? In college, there was this actually a Vietnamese place and you just get and it was like you would just breathe life back into you. Oh, you let the steam kind of like run into your sinuses and stuff. Weirdly, we used to go to Panda Express.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Like an 1130 orange chicken and fried rice bowl was fantastic. A sprite. I'm trying to remember the name of the diner. What's the name of the most like common diner? Denny's? Yeah, Denny's. We just go to Denny's. Literally almost your name.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah, one letter off. All right, so did I miss any scenes? What's your guys winner? I, I, this is not like the most, but I love when they sell the weed to the kids for money. Oh, I had that on my list. I had that what stays the best. I think that you get the James Franco worm is, if it's not, that might be the most iconic image from the movie probably is Franco, but also, it's just the kids are really funny. The really mean alpha kid who's like, we don't fuck with that shit, man.
Starting point is 00:45:45 There's nothing funier to me than like middle schoolers being assholes to adults. Yeah. It always works. Yeah. Stepbrothers making them lick the white dog shit. Yeah. Yes. Just like them like, that's like almost exactly the same scene as this.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Also, why does the kid sound like he sounds like he could be like the soldier who's like from New York from saving Private Ryan? Like he just sounds like he's talking like he's 30. Make sure you leave it a weed too. You know, this can be a gateway drug. You don't want to move on other things. Cocaine. Don't do that. We don't fuck around. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Don't talk what you do. Inhale it, Chachi. Inhale it. He fuck's Chachi. Yeah. So like, hey, he's like, what the fuck do you want? He's got so much. He's like, who the fuck is chauchy?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Then there's like fireworks. They're like, oh. That scene is so brilliant. The mean kids dancing at one point. Yeah. So good. Okay, anything else, D.K.? No, that's literally my whole list.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I had that scene, the foot through the windshield. And I think the winner to me is Dale going to find red and recruiting him to go rescue Saul. That's the most, like, that whole scene. Up until the point where they get to the barn to the farm. I had that originally, but I was like, I can't pick a scene that doesn't have Saul in it. I went with Dale and Saul meeting for,
Starting point is 00:47:06 not meeting for the first time, but the first time we see Saul and Dale together when Dale buys Pineapple Express from Saul. That was mine. I would pick that too, although I think the only competition is the diner one at the end. We're going to pull something up on YouTube. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:20 It sounds like God's vagina. I think Red is going to die. He falls asleep. He's like, oh, he finally died. Nope, he's away. He's awake. He's all right. All right. What's the best.
Starting point is 00:47:30 I love when there are movies where people just wear the same outfit the entire movie. It's one of my favorite stuff things. Dude, I was thinking about that as an actor because you want to be cool and you want to, you know, like show your friends this movie that I made. But then, like, if you get stuck in a really ugly or dorky outfit and you have to wear it the entire movie, like, to me, that's like got to suck. That's like a bad dream. Yeah. I do love it, though. Like, you know those nights when you wear the same outfit you get up, you go to do.
Starting point is 00:47:57 lunch, you end up like having a second plan. Before you know it, it's been 24 hours and you're in the same pair of jeans and a t-shirt. I think it's great. I also have here... Both are we're podcasters. I haven't changed outfits in weeks. I know. You guys have no idea what I wear.
Starting point is 00:48:10 What am? We record fantasy football shows. The music in this movie. Yeah. Fits. Fantastic. I listen to the soundtrack on the way to work today. Dreader Alive, Electric Avenue, paper planes in the trailer. There's so many good songs. Yep.
Starting point is 00:48:25 The Bob Marley song, when James Franco's crying on the swing set. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's another great scene where the girl's just watching him through the chain link fence. One of the better over-the-top cries. He's like crying into his sandwich.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And then I have, we haven't really talked about Danny McBride yet. But man, going back and just watching Danny McBride absolutely put up numbers in every scene he's in. 100%. This was kind of his first big, big role. I mean, he had a small role in Hot Rod. He was in like drill,
Starting point is 00:48:56 bit Taylor. He like did some things, but I feel like this really put him on the map, and then he did Tropic Thunder. You know what this is, oh, I'm gonna, we're, here in the rewatchables. I'll do like a real basketball reference, because Bill's not here. This is like, Kauai Leonard in the Spurs series when it just came out, Kawhi Leonard's just in the finals and just like, oh my God, who's this guy to, is he the best player in the team actually? And then like two years later, he's like, maybe the funny, the best player in the league. And it's like, Danny McBride, you're like, is he the funniest person in this movie? He's got the whiplash thing on his neck, like, half the movie. I don't think he's doing Kenny Powers. Is this the funniest person in the world?
Starting point is 00:49:26 I don't think anyone's been funnier, like, second by second than Danny McBride movie. He is... His points per minute. High warp. Yeah, yeah. And he's never really... I mean, East Bound and Down, which I think is one of the funnier shows ever made. Danny McBride, I mean, they've tried to have him kind of lead movies.
Starting point is 00:49:42 They haven't really worked. But for somebody who's so funny, I'm surprised he's not more successful in comedy movies. I couldn't agree more. I think the first five, ten minutes of East Bound and Down are about as funny as any... pilot for any comedy show. And again, and this is the end, which again, I do think this is the end is in so many ways the spiritual successor.
Starting point is 00:50:03 In a way, like the sequel, this is the end is about like what happens when these actors just hang out and write plots for each other with, you know, had Joe and Hill. But McBride is the funniest person in that movie, too. I just, I don't get it. Maybe he's perfect in the Dionne Waiter's kind of position. Like, he's at his best when less is more with him.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah. So couldn't get his own team. Couldn't bring him to the finals. No, he's a guy he need off the bench. Yeah. You can almost see him finding Kenny Powers in the movie. Yes. Because he kind of has like a couple different personas. Sometimes he's like this kind of like... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Trying to get my motherfucking scholarship. It was just mean, cocky, and a loser. He's also nice. He's also extremely nice. He's like, oh, well, this sucks for you because I'm a great friend. Yeah. He's the most polite drug dealer. Yeah, I also want to shout out for what's age the best.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Craig Robinson is just 100% approval rate. Yeah. Anytime Craig Robinson's in a movie. I like it. And looking back, I'm just like, why it wasn't Skydmore movies? I can hear you. I can hear every word you're saying. They're not here, Ted.
Starting point is 00:51:03 He's choking on this. And Madison. He's great and everything he's in. Yeah. What else is age the best? The country's acceptance of marijuana. There you go. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:13 This is what I had is the obvious winner. It's movie's only 14 years old. And now there's only four states that are marijuana is still illegal. That's crazy. Look at us. Who would have thought? Not bad. I love that an action movie is fueled by marijuana, not cocaine.
Starting point is 00:51:30 It's kind of fun. It feels a little more, yeah, just like fun and lively. Yeah. It's not Scarface. A different era. And then the last thing I have here is this is a small one. Small amounts of throw-up. It smells like throw-up in here.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I hate, like, we just did pitch perfect on the rewatchables a few weeks ago. And there's, like, a character in that movie who has stage fright and vomits, like, projectile, I don't, I always hate when movies require like, like, you need like a special rig to have the throat come out of the actor's mouth. I love it when they can just have like a little bit of, like an oatmeal or whatever they have, just in their, the actor's real mouth
Starting point is 00:52:06 and they just kind of like puke up a little baby. Joke it up. Yeah, it's like into the printer. I don't know. Every time I go back on that, I love it. Not everything needs to be the exorcist or like the family guy's scene where they're all vomiting.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And also, let's be real, we all throw up in our mouths more than everyone wants to admit. I think the project out vomiting is not funny. I think it's gross. I think it's too much. Yeah, yeah. I think this type of throw-up, it, like, has aged beautifully. Chicken fries.
Starting point is 00:52:27 That type of throw-up is... I thought you meant, like, just, like, it's real, it's like a real thing where you walk into, just like, oh, someone threw up in here. No, I just, like, I always think... This house smells like throw-up. I always get, like, a little, like a cat vomited somewhere in this room, and you're like, I don't know, I just, going back, I would always... Every time I watch the movie that has, like, the really gross throw-ups, like, I never like watching it.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Yeah. And these, I, I would watch it over and over. I think they're hilarious. On that note, chicken fries were awesome. I love the chicken fries. Is that Burger King thing? Yeah. D.K. Thoughts? Yeah. And I can, I mean, I was immediately starting to relate because if, like, Calvin ever throws up in his room, it's like, we have to, like, search for what he threw up on and, like, get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Well, that's why you have a dog now. He can go find it. Yeah. Searched. Sybiosis. All right, what else do you guys have? D.K., what do you have for what stays the best? So, Seth Rogen's career has aged incredibly. He's, like, he does everything. He's, like, awesome. He's made so many incredible movies. He's produced with a bunch of really cool shows. He's got his own weed company He has his own pottery company He's like also weirdly into architecture He's like a multifaceted guy He's a modern day renaissance man
Starting point is 00:53:31 Yeah he is So I was just going to point that out The diner scene I was going to say Aged perfectly Like that's to me the most Relatable moment in this entire movie They didn't eat their food Which I was kind of annoyed by
Starting point is 00:53:44 They eat the little bit of whipped cream Or like they're probably so One they're high all diet Why didn't they eat the food? I don't know that Red getting shot seven times and surviving the barn explosion to me, that's just like so great.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Yeah, I guess with Red, he, his character is a lot smaller than McBride character, and they thought he was so funny. He was supposed to die when he got shot the first time, and they thought he was so funny.
Starting point is 00:54:09 They're like, let's just make him so he's like Michael Myers, but for comedy. The scene where Seth Rogen comes back to recruit Red to go get Saul, he's like, yeah, man, they shot me right here.
Starting point is 00:54:21 and then they shot me right here too He's like slowly saying He's like I've been shot multiple times Well again The fact that they come back And like there's just He's just doing like his normal activities And there's just blood spots ever
Starting point is 00:54:36 Like there's a bloody handprint on the fridge door And he's just like eating and just living his life Waiting to die He's got a knife in his hand He's just got a big drink A sther knife in his hand Aren't you aren't you angry at Ted? Yeah I'm really mad at him
Starting point is 00:54:49 the way he says it He's just so tired I've lost a lot of blood Timeout timeout Okay time back in Oh the fight the timeout Oh the fight timeout that's aged Excellently yes
Starting point is 00:55:05 And then later Saul tries to use it And he's like no He throws him over the bar into the like Is this the first time we've seen like somebody calling time out In a fight in a movie It's such a classic That's a good question But that's like a kid move
Starting point is 00:55:16 Everyone had a friend in their friend group Timeout Timeout Time Out Time Out! And then he punch You like pretend to hurt. You're like, time out. You're like, I'm hurt. Time out. You got anything else, D.K.?
Starting point is 00:55:25 This one, obviously, like, the Amber Hurd thing, you know, there's some complications there later in her career. But to me, like, the phone calls between Seth Rogen's character and Amber Hurd's character are so accurate for that age. Like, dude, it's a roller coaster where they're like, I hate you, you ruin my life, fuck you. And he's like, I love you. And she's like, oh, I love you too. I want to get married. He's like, oh, God, I've made a huge mistake. And then she's like, tell me when I can come home.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And then just like abruptly ends. There's like three of these phone calls where it's like that like track. Everyone in a three-month relationship goes through this. I just thought that was so accurate. I'm like, these are real conversations between a couple idiot, young people. Oh, I'm just processing that last bit. Oh, I've made a huge mistake. You know what else is funny, though, on that note is that the call, first call where he calls her
Starting point is 00:56:18 and they get in the huge fight, and then they do the second call where they make up. In the movie, those are four minutes apart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that all you got? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Hyphids? You got everything I had except Jewish grandmothers have aged really well. Bubbies. Bubbies have aged, excellent. She was good in this.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Bubby played a pivotal role. Apparently, her last name, which they say in the movie, Belogus, I think it's Belogus, is Seth Rogen's mom's maiden name. Oh.
Starting point is 00:56:47 A little factoid for you. That's a good one. Yeah. All right, let's get into a little speed around here. The Pursuit of Happiness Award for the best needle drop. I think it's Electric Avenue to start the movie. That definitely sets the tone. It's up there, but it's paper planes from the trailer.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Oh, I'm not counting that. It's from the movie. The needle drop. Seth Rogen had to correct people that paper planes was not in the movie because so many people is so... I mean, yeah, it's certainly the most iconic sound. I was thinking about this. Can you think of a song from a comedy, like in the last 20 years? That, like, sticks out to you.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I can, the one I picture from Knocked Up is the Rattitat montage of them, like, she's getting, she's getting more pregnant or whatever and they're like getting their shit together. That's one I picture. I can just picture that song, but that's not like a well-known song. Comedy is often, I feel like usually aren't associated with like music and sound drops. And paper planes and even Electric Avenue, they do a great job with music in this movie compared to like many other comedies. Like, if you think of like Caledega Nights, Super Bad, I guess the opening scene in Superbad is that like
Starting point is 00:57:45 Yeah, the funky music. but usually that's not something you think about. Michael Sarah's singing that song is pretty good. Yeah. I was going to say Time Will Tell by Bob Marley. That's like a pallet cleanser. Because it's like an intense movie for points. And for them to like play that after they kind of get mad at each other and go separate ways.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I was like, this is nice. Like it just lets you take a breath. The Big Cahuna Burger, best food or drink from the movie. The Red Flushy? Ooh, that's one. What do you got? I mean, I got chicken fries. I don't know if it counts if it's coming the way back up.
Starting point is 00:58:16 favorite food is the one that they vomit. Then you don't actually see... I was going to say fruit roll-ups. He's like, fruit roll-ups. And he's like, got one on his face later when they go to Angie's house. McBride making the cake for his cat. It's my cat's birthday today.
Starting point is 00:58:33 He's in cat heaven. No, he's in hell. He's a fucking asshole. He's a little fucker. He's a little fucker. The Den of Thieves, Benihana Award, scene stealing location. The hideout, the warehouse?
Starting point is 00:58:45 It's pretty cool. 100%. When you first first. see how they've turned this old military installation into like the grow house. And it's actually like a really wide shot and then they pan down into the lower level. I was like, this is actually
Starting point is 00:58:56 pretty good cinematography and it's cool. And Saul is like blown away. He's like, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. And they never overtly say it. They just let you figure it out that it's the same place. Right. I mean, they have this I don't know a space suit, the underwater I don't know the name of the guys in the
Starting point is 00:59:12 helmets. Like the suits are rusting just on the walls. I was also going to say Red's house. Oh, yeah. To borrow a line from Van Wilder, decorated in early fuck. Like, what is the decor- what is like the style we've got going on here?
Starting point is 00:59:29 Hoarding? Yes. Good funshund. Also, I love that he's jibling the exercise ball. It's cozy. Trying to get a motherfucking scholarship. The Great Shot Gordo award for most cinematic shot.
Starting point is 00:59:41 I think it's the foot out of the windshield. Oh, my God. Yeah. Franco doing the worm is a close. second, but it's the cop car shot. The wide angle of them just selling drugs to the kids. I was going to say death from above with Seth Rogan, where he jumps off to high angle. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:55 He's like clearly on the wire, but it's great. To me, that was just like, I think they really had a lot of fun doing that. And also, Seth Rogan apparently did his own stunts in this movie. Yeah. All right. Stephen A. Smith's hottest take award. I struggled with this one. I was disappointed in myself.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Does anybody have what they think is a very hot take? I've got a good one since you guys said literally the exact opposite. you said, the most rewatchable scene is when they smoke the cross joint. Uh-huh. I can live without that scene. Oh! I'm like, it's kind of boring. Like, here's the deal.
Starting point is 01:00:27 I think if you're not really into weed and if you don't like love smoking weed, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this, I'm the only one who thinks of this. But like, to me, that's like, I, whatever. Like, I can't relate to this that much. Like, I don't really care. Just get on with it. They're like talking about how to light it and how to roll it and what kind of weed it is.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And I'm like, I don't give a shit about it. any of this stuff. To me, I was like, this is boring. Interesting. I love it. First of all, I recognize it's a stoner movie. It's my fault. I feel like it's also one of the most
Starting point is 01:00:55 lasting parts of the movies, the cross joint. Like, Seth Rogen rolled one for like Snoop Dog. Like, I don't know. I feel like it's like it goes hand in hand. It's like about, literally. It's like your take that chase scenes and movies are boring.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Yeah, that's phenomenal. That's incredible. Hyvitz, you got one? I thought the movie would be better based on the trailer. I love this movie My honest take is Hyvitz doesn't like Pineapple Express No, I do like this movie
Starting point is 01:01:23 I just think it's the trailers I wish the trailer is I guess I wish paper planes were in the movie That's really what I'm disappointed That paper planes isn't in the movie She didn't agree to she didn't want it to be I believe Well we put it in this is the end
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yeah but I think it was because of the subject matter Of the song with the movie She didn't want it to be in it But she was okay with it being in the trailer She's like whatever it's a trailer And it literally took off and became one of the most popular songs of the last 20 years. I mean, I associate that song with that era.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Oh, 100%. 100%. The song's also still good. I listened to it this morning. It really goes. It is fantastic. My hottest take, this isn't really that hot, but I think that everything they did in the movie, each step they took after witnessing the Ted Jones murderer made sense.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I think everything they did was like, like, this is what you should have done? Yeah, like, he didn't call the cops right away. No. Like they went and they like went to the wood. woods and they hid and then they went to red and then they did the chase scene. I think like why James Franco hijacked the cop car, like you can make an argument for why they did that. I actually think
Starting point is 01:02:23 like for as high as they are all kind of made sense. They made some good decisions. Decent plan. How to Solendale? Oh, actually, I do have a hottest take. Rogan should have just left James Franco. Where? Why do you go back for him? He tried to leave him after they were running around in the woods. He got in the car and he was about ready to start up.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Nope, when they go back to them from the farm. Oh, after that, yeah. Because he felt bad. He wanted to, he wanted to friendship, man. Yeah. He just met this guy. Well, forget, they're best friends.
Starting point is 01:02:49 They're best friends. You wouldn't go into a machine gun infested warehouse to save your drug dealer? Also, by the way, there was a speed, there's like a low-key speed reference in this movie where he's like talking about how a high stress situation or a near-death situation really like amplifies your emotions or, you know what I'm talking about from speed. And he's saying that to Angie, but he's also, I think, Red and him, like, friendship. It's like, this is like kind of, it's a bromance movie. What else is so good from that when he pulls the gun off his back from the duct tape like diehard?
Starting point is 01:03:19 Yeah, all the guns and all the places. People hit guns and movies. Yeah. All right. The Anchorman Flute P-Break Award. I think if you needed to, when Saul's on his like, I mean, when Seth Rogen's on like his third phone call with Amber Heard and James Schengko's crying, you could go pee. Yeah. You know, it's funny.
Starting point is 01:03:41 That part of the movie in particular, I think you can just like back away. you're not missing much. No. You just need to be back before Saul or before Dale and Red meet up and like plan their, you know, attack of the warehouse. But I think the five minutes before that when there's like, they get in the fight, Amber Hurd and Seth Rogen break up. I think you can pee during that.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Yeah. All right. What's age of the worst? I still don't know. I think you could just get rid of all of the Amber Hurd stuff in this movie. I don't know why he needs to be dating an 18-year-old high schooler. Why is any of this in the movie? No, it's a completely great.
Starting point is 01:04:18 You could have completely removed the entire Amber Hurd plot line and the movie's great. One thing I would push back on that is the scene where they go to her house and they're waiting for him for dinner is epic. True. Great scene. Fantastic scene. You could have made that work with like somebody else.
Starting point is 01:04:35 I don't know. That could have been the Bubby's house or something. It's true. When Craig Robinson is like puts all of his hands into the food, it's still warm. But it's just like, So weird. Grabbing the mashed potatoes.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I also got just referring to the drug dealers as just the Asians, the whole movie. That didn't age well. No. No, it does not. Yeah, the 25-year-old dating at high school, I had, obviously the Franco thing. Oh, yeah, Franco, yeah. But anything else other than kind of the obvious stuff? I mean, Amber heard dating a vaguely scummy person also has not aged well.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Sure, yeah. I also got debating whether cell phones can track you. that's not aged well we're like wait the cell phone can they like figure out where we are and now it's later like rosy prez's character
Starting point is 01:05:22 is like and then we triangulated it and we found them we found their car now I'm willingly opening up apps and I'm saying yes you can use my location I land in Los Angeles and Uber Eats is like do you want to go back to all the restaurants
Starting point is 01:05:33 you used to go to kind of creepy that's really good anything else that's all I got was there a better title for this movie absolutely no fucking way The title is perfect.
Starting point is 01:05:43 In fact, when I was like prepping for the movie before I watched the movie, I was just doing a little bit of notes. I like looked up the etymology of it because I wanted to know. And then because I had forgotten that they explained it like explicitly what the Pineauble Express is. Well, that's funny that it's right. What he says is just like a weather pattern. You know what? Evan Goldberg, that's the first thing he came up with for the movie was the name because they live in the Pacific.
Starting point is 01:06:04 It was like, yeah, I got to file that away. It's a great name. I want to name a movie after that someday. Did you guys come up with any other names though for it? I didn't even try it. I cannot imagine naming this movie something other than Pineapple Express. I very much agree.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Like, you've been served. I don't know. That's why I had that too. Did you? No, this Pineapple Express. You've been served, which is, it's actually, this was after you got served, which is another movie.
Starting point is 01:06:25 No, Pineapple Express is a cross joint. That would have been good. Maybe. He's in one scene. What about I love you, bud? Get it? Are you just coming up with like...
Starting point is 01:06:33 I kind of like this. I like this out of DK. Keep going. Bros. Brose before hose? Nah. I forgot about Bros before hose. Brows before O's.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Like blowing O's. High as a kite. Or by those. I don't know. That's all I got. Apparently, this was shipped to theaters under the name Easy Job. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:06:48 Yeah. Saw that as well. What is that even? Is that even a reference? You have such an easy job. Oh, yeah, yeah. New category here. The most popular meme that came from this movie.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Like, what joke lasted the test of time and became like the most popular joke from this movie? This is an important question. When did Thug Life become a meme for, like, white eighth graders to talk about? Was it from this movie? I think it was. It was already a thing and then this movie quoted that. Tupac had that tattoo on his. Correct.
Starting point is 01:07:18 But I think this is what made like 14-year-old white kids feel like they could say it. Right, right. I'm torn. I feel like this movie doesn't get credit quite for that. But it's, that's really high up there. Maybe it shouldn't, but it does. Like, maybe it shouldn't get credit, but like this is what people are quoting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Yeah. Yeah. I agree. What else? I mean, I think the cross joint itself is like famous. Yeah. It's like an actual thing now. Also, I mean, just Pineapple Express is actual weed straight.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Yeah, that too. I feel like it's actually one of the more like popular. Like it's just when you walk into like one of the trendy weed stores here in LA, it's like, what's the thing that you quote the most from this movie? The thing I quote, I mean, Thug Life is honestly probably what people quote the most. Right. The dope is dope I ever smoked. I feel like that is something that people said.
Starting point is 01:08:06 The thing we've been saying to each other all weekend is, I mean, I could talk about euthanasia all day. Man, he looks at his watch. He's like, I don't know if we should have this conversation. I'm kind of in a hurry. I could talk about euthanasia all day. Also, what my parents tell me is podcasts are so boring. My car just committed suicide. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Also, is that what age is the worst is he's making fun of, like, people talking and talking about life. It's like the fact that Dale wants to be essentially a podcaster for his career and they, like, make fun of it. Or maybe at age the best, yeah. Yeah. casting what ifs obviously we mentioned that Seth Rogen was originally pegged to play Saul Olivia
Starting point is 01:08:46 Thirlby was supposed to play Angie, the Amber Hurd role but after rehearsals it was swapped Do you guys have anything else for this? I got one Brian Cranston read for the role of Ted Jones He would have been vindicated Wow Judd Apatow felt that Cranston wasn't evil or scary
Starting point is 01:09:02 enough to be to convincingly portray a drug dealer So wait so I've always hilarious I've always on what stage is the worst. I've always read that casting Brian Cranston in Breaking Bad
Starting point is 01:09:14 was at the time like a very like strange choice people didn't know and they'd always referenced that he'd been turned down for literally drug dealer roles and I never knew it was this movie. I mean,
Starting point is 01:09:23 I read this. I hope that it's true. It's funny. It sounds, no, but that's... Because that's like the most ironic, hilarious thing ever. This also came out right when Breaking Bad started too.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Right. Wow. That's really funny. Talk about how well this would have aged if Brian Crankton was that show. I think he could have done it. I think he would have been good. Yeah, obviously he could have done it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I really, really liked the guy who played Ted Joel. Gary Cole? Oh, he's amazing. Yeah. Any other casting witness? That's all I found. That's a great one. Starting a business can seem like a daunting task,
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Starting point is 01:10:23 All right, uh, speed round here. The Ruffalo, Hannah Rubeneck Partridge Over Acting Award. They knew, and they let it happen. Don't you call me, lady! I come in here. I give these things to you. Give it all you got! This and...
Starting point is 01:10:36 Give it all you got! I treated you like a son! You fucking stab me in the heart! Fuck you! I think I'm giving this to Rosie Perez. I think that's fair. Rosie Perez is really stepping on the gas in this movie. Given it all she's got.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Well, okay, look, it's hard to do this in comedies, right? That's what they always say on the show, and I think it's very true. Craig Robinson was going for it. We'll just say that. Yeah, he was. That's fair. Right, you're dead. Like, the way that he's like, you sit your sexy ass down.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Like, I don't know. There's a lot of, like, makes no sense. He's just out there. Yeah. He's one of the best characters in this movie. To be clear, I do not want to sound like I'm criticizing him. I love his character. Well, that's what's so great about these movies is it really just feels like they got carte blanche
Starting point is 01:11:23 and some of the characters are just weird for no reason and you don't question it, but it's why they're so great. But it got soft. You got soft. I knew you got soft. The Afton movies work is just the constant ad living and it just always feels. Yeah, like I wonder what take Craig Robinson stuffed his hands into the mashed potato. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:38 It's not in the script. Yeah. Yeah. The kid they buy weed from for over. Oh, but he's so good. That kid is throwing a million miles there. It's like, don't tell us what to do. I love that.
Starting point is 01:11:50 It's impossible in my mind for a child to overact when they're just cussing at an adult. What the fuck you want? Turn it up to 100 for me. Street smart kid. Yeah, sorry, the Butch's girlfriend award for the weeklink in the film. I don't think we needed the Angie stuff. Yeah, that makes sense. But to be clear, that's because of what you were saying earlier where they wanted her to be older,
Starting point is 01:12:11 career-driven, looking down on him for being a loser, pivoted to high school and then had no plan for like they didn't really want to resolve the relationship of him just didn't seem like they had a plot. It's like vaguely part of the script. Like part of the plot. It doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Like I think the worst parts of the movie to me are when she's like, he's like on the phone with her. I thought those are so funny though. You had a lot of experience in this situation. Well, no, this isn't coming from experience. I just think she, she, like, does a very genuine, like, the way that these conversations just about face on the dot, like, they're saying they love each other, and then
Starting point is 01:12:50 immediately she's like, fuck you, fuck you, Dale, I've, I lost my virginity when I was 14 years old. I'm way more mature than you. Like, I don't know, like, to me, those scenes are great. Well, how many girls he had sex with? He's like, two and a half. Like, to me, those are great, and she's really good at them. I did the ball in. I knew it didn't count. What do you go? Tell me what I can come home. What do you guys have for, for week, link? I actually didn't have one on here. I think that yours is right, though. I think that's correct. Angie.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Joey Pants Award, best that guy. Joletruglio, the principal? Yeah, that's how I had. I might take some flack for saying this, but I think Gary Cole is a that guy. On this show, I have a qualm with Bill, Sean, and Chris. They're that guys are the most obscure actors of all time.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Pretty much everybody in the world to them does not qualify as a that guy, because they know so many damn names, and they've seen so many movies, they know so many actors. I'm like, to me, the average guy off the street when they see Gary Cole, they're like, oh yeah, the dad from Talladega Nights.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Right. They're like, the guy from pineapple. Oh, Veep. Yeah, yeah. No one knows his name's Gary Cole. Right. This is like in fantasy football when people are like, when we're talking about, well, you know, the target share of all these people
Starting point is 01:13:55 and how it's going to get divided. And everyone else is like, oh, Juju's on the Chiefs. I forgot about that. Yeah. The other one has Ed Begley Jr., who's the dad. I had him for Deon Waiters. Well, we'll get that. That's right after this.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Who do you guys think? Any other that guys for you? Kevin Corrigan, the hitman. That's a great one. I'm like, I know he's in Super Bad. He's always like a... I didn't know his name was Kevin Corrigan, but I agree with you. We only know that because you called him Kevin O'Connell by accident explaining the
Starting point is 01:14:23 that guy award on our podcast. That wasn't Kevin Corrigan I was talking about as Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, he was talking about the head coach of the Vikings. Yeah, but that was about Chris O'Donnell, the actor from Senate of a Woman. That's the point, though. I don't know his name. Yeah, very true. Who do you want to give it to?
Starting point is 01:14:43 I kind of think it's Gary Cole, man. I agree, and I agree with your point, that their lens of who is that guy is way too. Just depends on your level. I would have voted Joe LaTrulya. He's just funny in everything he does. Dionne Waiters Award. Here are my nominees.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Bill Hater. Yeah. Ed Begley, Jr. 100%. I'm telling you, the high school jock like comes in. calls her dude or bro or something like the whole time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:12 It's like, here's your shorts. The line of, I almost be my pants, I watch that ass for you. I wish. And then he leaves and goes, let's suck today's dick. And he like knuckle touches, Dale. Oh, my God. He's good, yeah. Who do you guys have?
Starting point is 01:15:27 It's the kid they buy weight from, man. He's the child. I love that kid so much. Well, we need to talk about Ed Bedley Jr., who is Angie's dad. Yeah. He, to me, is a scene stealer. he was so funny he's like you guys can wait as long as you want
Starting point is 01:15:41 but in one minute from now I'm eating I'm gonna eat some food it feels like an SNL sketch yeah it does you know the once the Wilfair one where he throws the glass I drive a dog Stratis it feels like that he is that guy you know the thing of like happy families are all like
Starting point is 01:15:55 but unhappy feelings are all different everyone has their own family's version if you're dysfunctional of like trying to be normal right before you have to be normal for other people yeah I'm going into the other room and I'm going to get my gun I can't believe he literally fires the gun in his kitchen. Twice. And then also, wait, so Seth Rogen, he's like, yeah, you smell like, he's like, yeah, you smell like, he's like, yeah, you smell like shit.
Starting point is 01:16:16 You smell like, shit, dude. All right, I'm down to give it to Ed Begley Jr. Dude, he's like, you assholes do exactly as I say or I'll take you out in the street and fuck you in the street. I'll take you out and fuck you in the street. Don't fuck us anywhere. It's just, dude, he just goes hard. He's with me. He's with me.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Dad, put the gun down. Put down the gun. You assholes do exactly what I say, or I will. take you outside and fuck you in the street. No, don't do that. Don't fuck us anywhere. Why would you even think that was an option? Get out of the car.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Loser? Loser. He's the best. I'm going in the other room and getting my gun. When they get in the car and he's like, oh good, we're safe. We're safe. Why would you even think this was an option? We're safe.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Angie, you're a fucking idiot. I say that in love. Okay, we'll give it to Edmond. He's also, like the teacher. Dude's right. Great dad. I mean, totally on the money.
Starting point is 01:17:10 That scene actually... Quick trigger on Ed, though. Oh, dude, 25-year-old boyfriend. Your 18-year-old daughter is dating an, like, a 25-year-old guy. And he shows up, he's like, so I witnessed a murder. Oh, the cops. We can't call the cops. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:24 D.K. Fatherly instinct is like, yeah, I'd shoot that guy. 2020-22 recasting couch. I boycott this category because there are no... Who are you going to do nowadays? Can you name five actors right now? Honestly, no. And I also think that weirdly... I think the exact same cast could do more or less the same movie.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Yeah, for sure. And it has to be better. It would be like a wet hot American summer, like return to summer camp 10 years later, or whatever that was called. Where it's like all these like 45-year-olds are playing like 16-year-olds. We would almost have to go the other way. And instead of 2022 recasting couch,
Starting point is 01:17:53 we'd do like 1982 recasting couch. Maybe that could have been fun. But there's just, there's really slim pickings. Did you have anybody in mind? No, I mean, I don't see, Shama- No. See, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:18:06 I'm not doing the shall. thing. Okay. It becomes a game of just name young people. Correct. Right. And it's like Zendaya and Timothy Chalemay and Tom Holland. And it's like we can't play.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Skyler Gisando. The kid from Booksmart. He's hilarious. He's funny. I think he would be good in this movie. I don't know which character. Maybe Red? No, he's too young.
Starting point is 01:18:24 I know. That's the thing. It's tough. There's no like 25-year-old people who are hilarious right now. I had Tim Robinson and Sam Richardson for Budlowski and Matheson. Oh, that's really good. Yeah. Tim Robin.
Starting point is 01:18:37 That's good. It's like the Detroiters reunion. He's kind of old now, but like, he's literally his brother with like Dave Franco. Right. There you go. Okay, half-vaz Internet research here. Yeah, so the term Pineapple Express
Starting point is 01:18:50 was coined in the late 1960s by weathercasters after they noticed tropical moisture being funneled into these storms, but it's not necessarily tropical water always being drawn into the atmospheric river. It's literally called Pineapple Express. I thought that was cool. Yeah, I talked about, Saul quoting that
Starting point is 01:19:07 sitcom, that NBC sitcom called 227, the episode was Mary's Christmas. I thought hurricane season was over. Came out in the 80s. Saul's love of civil engineers is accurate. Oh, he really does. M.M.O. Shaughnessy and Hans Carl Bandell are real civil engineers
Starting point is 01:19:23 who did in fact build the things he said they built. That's funny. Ted's house is at 1845 Neodara Drive in Glendale. It was a great house. I like Ted's house a lot. Yeah. Like the windows over like the looking Yeah, it's very retro
Starting point is 01:19:37 It's not the room I would murder someone in though If it was murdering someone Tough room choice Right That's a fantastic Yeah, that's a fantastic Yeah, don't shoot out front Your front window
Starting point is 01:19:46 Yeah You're not supposed to throw stones At a glass house I'm going to shoot people At your own window House costs 2.25 million So For our Spotify stock pays out of
Starting point is 01:19:52 How much was the The Boogie Night's house That they didn't buy Ooh I think it's around Two or three million Oh you gotta get well I think Bill's gonna get that one
Starting point is 01:20:02 For like before that they get this one So, this is an ode to Bill Simmons. How many fucks were said in this movie? Like 150. I'm gonna be like 75. 180. Oh, my God. Nice.
Starting point is 01:20:17 You said Evan and Seth, Evan and Seth rolled the cross joints themselves. And the Stormy Daniels thing, that's what I had. What else do you guys have? There was one scene, our favorite scene, well, my favorite scene, when they're taking the guns out of the thing. He's like, Ted Jones messed with the wrong melon farmers. And that is an ode to the overdubbing on, like, cable. movies, which I thought was great, because I have forgotten that they do that, you know? And it was like
Starting point is 01:20:40 apparently in die hard, John McLean says Yippekeye, Melon Farmer. Oh my God, really? Yeah, because that word looks like you're saying motherfucker. Yeah. Oh, wow. So I thought that was good. Yeah. We mentioned Frank O'Rears the headband because he heard his head. They had
Starting point is 01:20:59 a billboard in Los Angeles that actually was smoking, like a smoke machine that looked like a joint, but... Too many people thought it was on fire. Yeah, they called 911. And then also the origin of the term snicklefritz. Oh yeah, this was like a PA or something on the... So what's going on? Yeah, so Snicklfritz is the bad weed he sells to the lingers, the guy who wants to
Starting point is 01:21:17 purchase. Linger! He would they linger! And I guess apparently one of the special effects supervisors on the set of this movie had a number two like PA, and every time he messed up, the supervisor just called him Snicklefritz. And they just thought it was so funny that they named the bad weed Sticklefritz. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Damn, that's also terrifying to be a PA who keeps screwing up. like the most terrifying thing of all time on the set. Also, Rogan broke his ring finger, which also, Tom Brady, Carson Wants, same thing. Oh, wow. During the set. And apparently, you know, that scene we're in there at woods and they're hiding out?
Starting point is 01:21:52 So, I guess because they were, as you were saying earlier, like they filmed Superbad and Pineapple Express all in the short period of time. The dick drawings in Superbad, they filmed that scene in Superbad while they were also filming in the woods for this movie. Didn't they draw the dicks while they were filming that scene or something like that?
Starting point is 01:22:11 I think Evan Goldberg's brother drill the dicks. Yeah. And I guess they filmed them while they were. That's funny. Wow. That is funny. God, what an amazing time. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Apex Mountain here. Seth Rogen, I'm going to go, no. No. James Franco, I'm going to say no. He was nominated for an Oscar. Right. He was nominated for a Golden Globe for this film, by the way. Was he?
Starting point is 01:22:32 But aren't the Golden Glove just as an entity kind of like retroactively worthless? Yeah, I mean, it was for the comedy musical category. but still I mean, movies this stupid usually don't get nominations even in the Golden Globes. Danny McBride, I'm going to say no. Eastbound and down.
Starting point is 01:22:46 No way. Kenny, no. Amber Hurd, no. She was in Aquaman. Ugs. No, absolutely. Justin, no, Tom Brady had hugs. But 2008 for Ugs,
Starting point is 01:23:00 right when I started high school, every girl in the winter. Oh, they were wearing Uggs a lot. sweatshirts, leggings, Ugs. Yeah, you're not wrong. Because Brady had it, because this was right when the Patriots are going undefeated, and then Brady also kind of had, like, the villain turn.
Starting point is 01:23:11 So I'm saying like this year for Ugs? The year, yes, not the moot, but yes, this was peak Uggs time, for sure. Big. Have you ever worn Ugs? I have some Ugs. They don't look like the Ugs that Damian Pride was wearing. They're Ugg brand slippers. I had Ugg brand slippers.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Someone gave me as a gift and I pretended not to like them because I was a stupid teenager. I mean, I'm just going to say it. They're incredible. Don't be a shame. Okay. I would wear Ugs. Weed in movies. Yeah, I was going to say like stoner movies
Starting point is 01:23:38 Like is this the apex for that genre This is where like being Chris and Sean and Bill really helps We should probably not even comment on that Weed in movies, you say no, gut call I straight up I feel too young to just like Right off like seven weed movies No, let's just ignorantly plow through this category No, it's not
Starting point is 01:23:59 It's not even my favorite weed movie of my lifetime I prefer Harold and Kumar But I'm not saying weed movies I'm saying weed in movies The smoking of the weed in the movie Yeah, maybe the weed itself. Okay, okay, okay. I think that's, there's an argument for that.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Yeah, yeah. The title of the movie is the weed. The McGuffin of the film is the weed. The first, like, 20 minutes is him smoking weed and then going to get weed from his... I think if you're talking about the actual weed, then yes. Because the strain of the weed being the title of the movie. And if it's wrong, then like,
Starting point is 01:24:28 well, Sean and Bill could just yell at us. They were, like, blowing the weed smoke on the caterpillar. They're like, I can't believe we in the middle. They're like, sword-finding Slug. They're like playing like hops. Was it when you hop over the person again? Leap frog,
Starting point is 01:24:44 leapfrog, yeah. Dude, but the second, blowing the rings into the slugs. That's like such a stoner thing to do, I feel like. What else you got for Apex Mountain? For me, the movie gun cocking montage.
Starting point is 01:24:58 They do it twice in this movie. That's a bold claim. You have to tell me if I'm wrong, because you know the history of movies much better than I do, and maybe we should have probably checked with like Bill and Sean and Chris and everybody. But like the two movies I think about the most that I, like in my movie watching history are hot fuzz. Lots of good gun cocking in that movie.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Yeah. Just like gratuitous gun cocking. You know, they like actually pay like close attention to doing that. There's two in this one. They do that at Red's house when they're like, you know, don't. Don't. And then they're like cocking. And then they run out of bullets later at the farm and they do it again for fun.
Starting point is 01:25:35 I'm like, this is the great, like, to me, that's the best little, like, movie, little ad thing that I think this is the apex for gun cocking montages. I've seen so many crappy action 80s movies now that I've been doing the Rwatchful for so long. Like, I've seen so many of the, like, Rambo's, cobras, like, predator, you name it. So I'd be, there's no way. Yeah, I'm sure. Like, it's got to be Sloan or Schwarzenegger or something like that. But I respect it. Anything else?
Starting point is 01:26:03 Gary Cole? he was Lumberg, famously Lumberg in office space And then he was Ricky Bobby's dad Those two roles though Have lines that are so much more quotable than anything here Like literally he's the one who says if he ain't first or last Yep
Starting point is 01:26:18 And then he also in office space Like you know everything he does Those quotes I think are So you think he was at the peak earlier I guess that again I guess I can't speak to the peak of his powers It's close though But he's like a main character in this movie Yeah I mean he was
Starting point is 01:26:33 in Veep for like six years seven years? That's probably a bigger there's more Peacemus powers. That's definitely closer to Peacombs powers. There's a kilo
Starting point is 01:26:41 a Colombian Bam Bam! Yeah. I got one more. The DeWolanos. Yeah, I had that as well. It is definitely Apex Mountain for the DeWu. I don't know anything
Starting point is 01:26:52 about the DeWallanos but it definitely is the Apex Mountain. 100%. I wanted to save this because apparently according to Seth Rogen, Red was originally supposed to kill Matheson
Starting point is 01:27:02 with a Ford Fiesta. Yeah. But Ford didn't want their car involved in a movie murder, so they changed it to a DeWulanos, which is way... What a lame move by Ford. You just got killed by a DeWolanos, motherfucker. That's... Yeah, maybe the funniest line of the movie.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Hyvitz, what do you got? I had the DeWu. The DeWu was the... Definitely a pick's bout for the DeWu. DeWolanos. I didn't know... I don't know what a DeWu is if it weren't for the movie. Same.
Starting point is 01:27:27 I had a couple friends that had DeWus. Really? Yeah. Was this anyone's Hall of Fame Plack movie? I kind of think, no. I couldn't think of anything. But I think it's why this movie is so great. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Because this is what the movie is. Yeah. It's no one's best film. It's just a good time. Nothing more. Uh, best racehorse name for this movie. I have Snickle Fritz. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Bong Mitzv. Ooh. I like that. What do you got? I mean, it's basic as fuck, but Pineapple Express is an excellent name for a racehorse. Sure. Good. Don't ever think it.
Starting point is 01:27:57 I've got, I've got a few. Number one. I'm done with the woods. Okay. You would name. I'm done with the woods down the stretch. I just think that fits. You know what I'm talking about when he's like, I'm done with woods.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Let's go. Let's go. All right. Let's do it. Anyone seen my bigger knife? You're doing like sentences for the horse names. Have you ever heard horse names? They're all really long and weird.
Starting point is 01:28:19 They're not that long. Maybe not that one. I'm done with the knife. These are just quotes. Dude, so there's a scene. This probably should be in the best quote. But Gary Cole, it's like cutting from two and from scenes. And Gary, it's like a, you know, he's like basically.
Starting point is 01:28:33 talking to his friends. He's like, anyone's seen my bigger knife? He's just holding a machete. Let's right before everybody comes in. To me, that was just great. Mr. Wiggles.
Starting point is 01:28:44 This is in the red fight scene with, he's trying to get Dale back. He's like, where you going, Mr. Wiggles? That is good. Not a compliment. That's a good name for me.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Not a compliment. Down the stretch. What about Big Sexy when the female cop pulls up Dale's record? She goes, oh, big sexy. With the glasses. She's also a cop in the hangover.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Oh, is she? That's right. Yes. Okay. That was the most re-like, to me, my friends and I in that era would say, not a compliment, like a lot. Yeah. He's like, I just kind of flabbergasted when I hear you say things like that. He's like, thank you. Not a compliment.
Starting point is 01:29:23 For me, the action is the Jews Award for Best Quote. There are so many. Yeah. I think you just got killed by a day Wulanos. That was the first one. I had. You just got killed by a DeWulanos, motherfucker. How you like me now, huh?
Starting point is 01:29:42 I think the funniest quote of the movie. A couple other ones. I don't know why, but the Ted Jones, or the Saul talking about Ted Jones when Seth Rogen asks, what do you know about Ted? And he goes, I think he's like crazy about murdering people. That's really bad then. He's like crazy about murdering.
Starting point is 01:30:00 He's like so innocently. Like he has like with no context at all. It's not good? I think he's, like, crazy about murdering people. Just... Well, that's not good. The line that sucks me in every time is when they're in the first time he's buying the weed, and they sit down on the couch, and Franco's like, how do you feel about euthanasia?
Starting point is 01:30:20 Yeah. And Seth Rogen's like, I got to go. I could talk about euthanasia all day. Don't get me started. I like... Because I'm in the dumpster already. That was a classic line. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:33 What are you doing? We got to go. I think we should do the dumpster. Why? Because I'm in the dumpster already. I got one. Matheson says to Budlowski. He's like, I seat you pull somebody's jaw off.
Starting point is 01:30:47 To me, it's like, what the hell are we talking about? I've seen you pull someone's jaw off. I love when they're... Oh, yeah, I see it. I love when they're smashing the phones and Franco throws his. He's like, what are you doing? He's like, I don't know. How often does somebody smash things?
Starting point is 01:31:05 I'm rusty. Fuck. There's a scene where Seth Rogen's character convinces the cop that there's like, you know, an inside job and she's going to like take care of everything and she starts turning around and talking to him. He's like, maybe keep your eyes on the road a little bit.
Starting point is 01:31:21 To me, that just kills me because she turns around and is just talking to him. She's like, I had my eye on this department. I knew something was up. Then she hits Saul. Picking Nits. I got a couple here. How did Angie and Dale meet?
Starting point is 01:31:35 Yeah, that's a good one. I think, yeah. Yeah, where do you meet at high school? How did they know? I don't even want to know. Like, he doesn't have a job. He doesn't, like, work at a store where he could have, like, went into her. Maybe he served somebody.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Yeah. In her life? Served her a subpoena. Yeah, served her a subpoena. But when he had, like, he served her a subpoena? No, I don't know. I think they can leave that out on purpose. So that.
Starting point is 01:31:54 We've been served. Um, no one looks high in this movie. I completely agree. No one looks high. I know they smoke a lot. I agree. And Franco's like doing... Saul looks high the entire room.
Starting point is 01:32:05 No, he's acting high. I don't think he looks high. I agree. His eyes are bloodshot stuff? Oh, okay. Things happening are things high people do. Like, the idea that even just all the things they're doing seem like professional hitmen, but it's just them dicking around by accident.
Starting point is 01:32:20 But I agree with that. The one thing I would say, this is, you're not, I'm not actually contradicting you here, but like when he smokes the cross joint the first time, he, like, blows the smoke out and then sucks it back in and then he coughs his, like, face off. To me, that was, like, the most genuine part of the movie. Oh, I mean, they're obviously, like, expert weed tropics. I was like, this guy knows the fuck what he's doing. But it doesn't manifest in the eyeballs.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Like, they just kind of, like, forgot to do that while making the film. Is it illegal to smoke weed during the filming of a movie? Probably. At that point, smoking weed before every television 80 goes on. At that point in California, maybe? They said they weren't smoking weed, like, who knows they were lying. But, yeah, I just thought, like, they should have, like, I guess it'd be a pain in the ass to always have their eyes be bloodshot. But my last one here is, there's no way.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Angie and her parents go to the hotel. They go to cops. They don't listen to Seth Rogen. He's a maniac. The dad just shot him and he's like, but we got to listen to him. Let's head off to the motel for like a couple days. There's no way they leave the house.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Right. 100%. I got one and I just thought of it. The scenes in the beginning, like the opening credits when he's serving everybody and they're all like really mad at the service, like the process server, calling him asshole.
Starting point is 01:33:30 This is relevant now. Do you think that's actually how people, people respond to getting served? Like, you asshole. Well, the whole Olivia Wilde Jason Sedaka thing. Oh, wow. Yeah, but you're not mad at the process server. You're mad at the person who's serving you papers.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Perhaps in the moment. Get a real job. There's no one else to be mad at, though, in the moment. To me, that's just weird. Like, I don't think that's genuine. I was totally on your side until you mentioned that. And then actually, the Livy Wilde thing. That's like the worst case version of.
Starting point is 01:33:55 You guys served, like, on stage. These are like relatively. One of those in surgery. I know, but he goes into this guy's office. He's like, are you here to fix the press? He's like, no, you're served. He's like, motherfucker. Like, I don't, like, that doesn't feel real to me.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Do you guys think you could do that job? Do you think he'd be good at it? I do like that he's got, like, a bunch of, like, disguises and stuff. Craig thinks acting is easy, so I think that Craig thinks he could just, like, pretend that I'll do... Craig, if you were in this movie, you'd probably do some research and do it. Have you guys thought about that if the three of us were red, Saul and Dale, who would be who? Oh, God. Who do you think I would be?
Starting point is 01:34:28 I think you would be... Dale. Why? I don't know. You're the most rational of the three of us? Well, he's still now, but we're talking about like
Starting point is 01:34:39 40-year-old D.K. 27-year-old DK. He's the one who sold drugs, most likely, the three of us, red. Get my motherfucking scholarship. Maybe you're all three, DK.,
Starting point is 01:34:52 I don't know. What other picking niche you guys have? After the foot through the windshield scene, yeah. They wouldn't be able to get away. Like, they wouldn't just be able to run away.
Starting point is 01:35:00 There'd be like a thousand cop cars there. And like helicopters, Barracudas, foxes. No backup is funny. The other one I have is the gigantic air intakes around the farm. Kind of a dead giveaway. There's like air intakes and outtakes.
Starting point is 01:35:17 I'm like, what are these in the fucking field? What are they doing in the middle of a field? That would draw attention. I also wish they referenced at the end of the movie when the entire place goes up in flames that like all the greatest weed in the world has been burned and like the whole city got high. I don't know if I actually want them to do that.
Starting point is 01:35:33 But I wish they referenced. like, I don't know, wow, the air right now, it smells so good or something. I kind of would have liked if the movie had even ended with like they end up, they confirm that Pineapple Express is like the best kind of weed. It all blows up except some amount that Franco has
Starting point is 01:35:48 and then he's able to sell it and put Buby through retirement. Oh, that's funny. And himself through civil engineering school. Like even just that kind of button would have been really nice. You got any other, Hyphus? Yeah. The dad at dinner is drinking a Newcastle beer and a glass of milk.
Starting point is 01:36:04 What? This is picking nits, not most rewatchable scene. How dare you? That's sick. Can you imagine drinking a new cat? In one minute from now, I'm going to start eating. You can be polite with your clean plates. I just love that guy.
Starting point is 01:36:22 I'd fuck you in the street. Take you out and fuck you in the street. Don't fuck it's anywhere. That's a great catch. A fucking beer in a milk dealer. Imagine drinking milk and beer. That's a weird combo. We should have eaten.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Each had a beer and a glass of milk for this recording. All right. Any else? Anything else? It would obviously Dana McBride should have died. Goes without saying. Oh, that's, I would have go to the opposite. That was the best part of the movie.
Starting point is 01:36:45 Well, that gives into next category. Sequel, Prequel, Prestage TV, All Black Castor Untouchable. They obviously made like a pseudo sequel in This Is the End and they actually play out the actual idea that they would have had for a sequel in This Is the End, which the movie would have been called Pineapple Express 2, Blood Red. Well, hold on. Before we even dive into this, again, if you haven't seen. seen this as the end. Like, they really, they're all stuck in this house in the apocalypse, and they're bored, and they just do drugs and film pine up. And they're playing themselves, and they film Pimeleu Express 2. And I, Craig, you have to stand in for Sean and Bill and
Starting point is 01:37:17 Chris. Has anything like that ever been done in a movie? Like that self-referential? Real actors actually film a joke, but actual plotline version of a movie that they wanted to. Has anything like that happened? I don't, I'm not in my memory. It is, it is. It's brilliant. That movie is, this is the end is so good, but when they do the pineapple two, the whole movie levels up. Can you give me a real quick plot synopsis of what they have for, I forgot to watch it. Can we play the drop from this is the end of? Yeah, for sure. Should we call Red, you have more weed?
Starting point is 01:37:48 I don't know, man. That guy's gone crazy. Good thing I have a lot of fucking weed for you guys. I hope you guys up. Now I need you guys to assassinate Woody Harrelson. If plots legalized, my business will suffer. And if my business suffered, I suffer. So much suffering, all because of that inbred,
Starting point is 01:38:09 empty seed, Woody Harrelson. I have to deal what's right. Weed is for the people. It's the people's weed. If you don't assassinate him, I'm going to assassinate both of you. Ro! The plot is Red orders them to assassinate Woody Harrelson. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:32 In order to prevent the legalization of marijuana so Red's business doesn't collapse. It's the people's weed. Jonah Hill plays Woody Harrelson. Yeah. So obviously the sequel is a thing. I mean, I would take a spin off of Red, just read the show. I was going to say Prestige TV, and this is maybe getting too close to Breaking Bad, but like prestige TV series about Ted and his ascension to being a drug kingpin in L.A. Obviously, one of the side stories would be read and how he got involved and everything and his like role in the whole enterprise. I thought, by the way, that Ted and Rosie Perez, Gary Cole and Rosie Perez had really good chemistry. in this movie.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Like, their relationship, to me, was like, that's, like, good chemistry. He's like... It's like a fiery sexual relationship. Yeah, like, when she's saying, I'm out, and he's like, all right, we're going to take care of you, but first, you know, whatever,
Starting point is 01:39:21 we're going to finish the job. And then she's, like, starts punching him. He's like, say something in Spanish. And they're like, you know, that, to me, like, that was a genuine chemistry there. We're coming at you with everything we've got. She's like, you blow it. You just gave yourself up.
Starting point is 01:39:33 And he's like, that's like, so weak. And then he's like, I just love their relationship. I think it's really funny. So I would watch that And to me that's like That would be a great three season series Probably probably unanswerable questions Did you guys have any?
Starting point is 01:39:50 Yeah, I have a couple Number one Am I the only one that sees the dumb and dumber homage? There's some similarities to dumb and dumber. Number one, two morons Stumble into a bad situation And are pursued by a pair of hitmen Number two, the big boss
Starting point is 01:40:07 ends up overestimating these dumb assholes and thinks they're like pros, right? Because at one point, Gary Cole's character is like, they killed Peter? He's ex-C-C-I-A. Who are these guys? And that's like exactly like what you see. He's going to take him to the casino.
Starting point is 01:40:22 He's like, how do you know I got gas? You know, like the gas man and dumb and dumber? These guys are pros. And then he had like, he's like, he had a bunch of disguises in his trunk. What's this guy's deal? And then finally, Saul's Bubby, the actress,
Starting point is 01:40:37 is in dumb and dumber as the old lady on a motorized cart. Good catch. Don't you go dying on me? Wow. That's one of those that I would think was random, but the fact that so many things, I almost wonder if they got hurt that person. I wonder if they did.
Starting point is 01:40:50 I think this was somewhat intentional, but I googled it, and I couldn't find anything like confirming. No, but they referenced so many movies that I think of confirmed. Right. I mean, they obviously like are, you know, homages to die hard, all the favorite movies, like speed.
Starting point is 01:41:03 That is a great catch. But I thought that was great. Like two, basically like the two hitmen. pursuing these idiots. Yeah. Is Pineapple Express Sotiva or Indica? Sativa. Yeah, it's got to be.
Starting point is 01:41:15 And also, how good is how good is Pineapple Express? It's like that's the question of the movie. It smells like God's vagina. If anybody, I would love to know if somebody listening has ever smoked Pineapple Express We just want to live in here. I like that part. That part was very genuine too. Oh, by the way, another little back to the, you know, like,
Starting point is 01:41:36 factoid's thing. When he said the God's vagina thing, apparently Seth Rogen improvised that, and then Franco told him it wasn't funny, and then stole it the next thing. That's really good. Would this movie be better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trejo,
Starting point is 01:41:51 Catherine Hahn, Steve Buscemi, Sam Jackson, J.T. Walsh, or Philip Baker Hall. Danny Trejo could 100% have been in this movie. He should have been in Pineapple, too, if they ever made that. Like, he could have been, like, the villain to Ted Jones. He could have been, like,
Starting point is 01:42:04 the adversary of Ted Jones. He could have been partners with Ted Jones. Jones, but Trejo fits perfectly in this movie. I also think Catherine Hahn could have been the way. I think so, too. Can I pick this category while I'm on the show, and I'm sure they'll kick me off? Are you going to say that Wayne Jenkins is the only one here that's a character, not an actor? I was going to say, what movie's not better with Sam Jackson?
Starting point is 01:42:21 Well, there's not many that he's not in. Right. Or commercials. I think he's in the most movies ever. Could be wrong with that, but I think that's true. Just One Oscar. Who gets it? I think it's Danny McBride, Best Supporting Actor.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Yeah? I actually agree with that. Okay. He's so good. I'm probably wrong, Frank, I would, but... Best double feature choice for this movie? It has to be this is the end. They got pineapple too.
Starting point is 01:42:47 I was going to say that. The other thing I wanted to throw up... It's also the same group of people and this is the end. I don't know if you guys have this problem. This is just how my brain works, but I conflate these two movies, even though they're very different. I understand the difference between the movies,
Starting point is 01:42:57 but the titles to me, I always screw up. Pineapple Express and Tropic Thunder. Oh. I always get them mixed up, and so I think that would be a good double feature. It's like I always, you know, like when there will be blood and no country for old men came out. I feel like that's another good one. My double feature choice is Reefer Madness from 1936.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Yeah, that's good. They set that up. The Andy and Red Zwant-N-A- Award for what happened the next day. They get arrested for stealing a cop car. Red's in the hospital. Red dies. Red dies on the car ride back. Red dies in Bubby's car.
Starting point is 01:43:27 He finally falls asleep and forget. Maybe Red and Bubby die in the car together. I actually did have some like dark thought where he, like, like finally Saul is like, I got to get rid of Bubby. Somehow manages to speed that thing along. The first time I watched this movie when the car came in and hit them,
Starting point is 01:43:45 I didn't at first know it was Red. I thought it was going to be the grandma. Debtra was driving the car. One of the best lines that is just snuck in right as the credits are rolling is as they're walking to Bubby's car. Red says, I'm either getting ready to die
Starting point is 01:43:57 or I have to take a massive shit. I don't actually remember that. All right. Coach Finstock Award, Best life lesson. Don't let your drug dealer upsell you. You can't get addicted to marijuana if you're using a bong. It filters out the addiction.
Starting point is 01:44:13 That's really good. Also, he definitely doesn't smoke weed in a bong. He's just flat out lying. I know. Yeah, he doesn't smoke weed out of bong in the movie at all. He smokes joints the entire time. Saul hits the bong mitzvah. What piece of memorabilia would you want?
Starting point is 01:44:29 The prostitute pistol. Oh. Pull the guns. I would like one of the cross joints. Yeah, the cross joints is the easy one. Or Red's Camono. Dude, the Camono, a combo, you're right. Like, I would take any of those.
Starting point is 01:44:40 The cross-joint, though, is the one. Or the hundred cross-joints that they rolled. Yeah. The 99 that are left. Who won the movie? I think it's Danny McBride. I agree. I think there's only two answers here.
Starting point is 01:44:52 It's either Danny McBride because I could be wrong. I don't think he had any kind of serious career or name recognition. No one had heard of him before this. He was in, like, hot rod. He had done a couple small roles. Some stuff. But, like, he gets Kenny Powers because of this, right? Yeah, I think so. So it's either.
Starting point is 01:45:05 his career, but the other argument is Seth Rogan, because Seth Rogan, 10, 20 years from now, like, it wouldn't be crazy to me if he had one of the larger, you know, marijuana-related companies. Like his company, I feel like if he ends up kind of building. It's his guerrilla marketing for his future company. It's kind of like people now, kids now and the Zoomers think of Paul Newman as the salad dressing guy. And I kind of wonder at 40 years from now, people won't even freaking remember Seth Rogen. for his movies. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:45:37 What a reference. The guy who by Bongs. You know what I mean? Seth Rogen was an actor? Yeah, exactly. So. That's actually great. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:45:46 That's great. All right. Seth Rogen was an actor. Oh, man. That's all we got. Thank you to Danny Kelly, Danny Hyfitz. Thank you to.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Bill for letting us dip our company pen. Thank you, Bill. Thank you very much. Fuck Jeff Goldblum. Man, fuck Jeff Goldblum. And there will be another episode of the rewatchables next week. See you then.

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