The Rewatchables - ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
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All right.
So we're going to go into rewatchable scenes
and we're going to do the rest of the categories.
We're trying to keep this less than three hours.
I have a new record.
This is the most amount of rewatchable scenes
I've had for a movie that we've ever done.
In fact, I think I have pretty much the entire movie
except for about 20 minutes.
So I was going to apologize for making you do every scene
in the Boogie Night's episode.
But you think we should do that.
out here as well.
Well, not quite.
Not quite.
I got it down to eight, I think.
Eight.
Great.
Yeah.
Well, I wanted to shout out at the top, the end of the opening scene, the beginning of the robbery into the opening credits.
I just really like how that goes, the man to plumber.
Yeah.
I love you, fucking.
I love you, honey, bunny.
Everybody be cool.
This is a robbery.
One of you.
Alexi, you and everybody on fucking one of you.
And then that music kicks in.
two songs in the opening credits
which that might have invented
I don't know if any movie had ever done that before
well the radio the concept of the
radio had been in reservoir dogs
but I think switching the songs in the middle
because you hear him change the dial
good graphics too
like opening credits that could come out now
and not be any different anyway
I just say about those graphics for people
in my generation it has not aged well
because the graphics are the stranger things font
so I think kids are going to be like that stranger
It's the font for cabaret, I think.
It's like a font font font.
And also that first song, unfortunately, is a massive sample
in a super popular Black-Eyed piece song called Pump It.
And so I cannot help but sing Pump It to myself as I listen to that song
during the beginning of Pulp Fiction.
Oh, the Dick Dale song.
Yes.
Yeah, miserly.
Yeah.
That's one more reason your generation sucks.
That's your lack of appreciation for Sean.
Longhung's
in the way out.
That's our opening list.
All right.
The first truly rewatched
about seeing Vincent and Jill's
heading to Marvin's.
You know what they call
a quarter pounder with cheese
in Paris?
They don't call it
a quarter pounder with cheese?
Oh man, they got the metric system.
They wouldn't know what the fuck
a quarter pounder is.
What do they call it?
They call it Royale with cheese.
Royale with cheese.
That's right.
What do they call a Big Mac?
Big Mac's a Big Mac,
but they call it La Big Mac.
I don't know.
Put it going on a while.
I don't know.
I didn't go on a burger chicken.
You know what they put on French fries and holland instead of ketchup?
What?
Neneys?
I've seen him do it, man.
They fucking drown them in his shit.
I would argue this is the most ripped off four and a half minutes of screenwriting in the past 30 years.
I don't even know who is in the finals against this?
When you're going to parody this movie, this is the scene that was parody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But also the scene that I think the most people probably were like,
man, if I can just get this scene and have it have the same feel of Vincent telling Jules
about what life was like in Amsterdam.
It's such a great right-what-you-know-seen, though,
because we know that Quentin was literally in Amsterdam when he was writing it.
Yeah.
So he's just communicating something that was going on in his life through these characters.
It's also a thing that I've never quite sorted out in this movie
is the Europe-America conversation that's happening between all these characters.
like Tim Roth's character in the first scene
is doing kind of like an anti-foreigner's greed
but he's British in America.
Obviously like Butch is with the foreign taxi driver
and Fabian.
You know,
they're always talking about the differences between Europe
when Mia's like,
I go to Amsterdam to chill out for like once a year.
I'm like,
do you like,
it's a very interesting like the relationship with Europe
and probably European art movies
and being cool is very pronounced.
Well, we have three days.
different things going on. One is the Amsterdam recap.
Oh, man, I'm going. I'm fucking going.
The little difference is, then we get into the Mia part,
talking about the pilot, the foot massage.
Tony Rocky Horror.
What happened with Tony Rocky Horror and the concept of a foot massage.
A foot massage is nothing. I get my mother a foot massage.
He's laying your hands in a familiar way of myself.
This new way.
Is it as bad as eating her pussy out? No.
There's the same fucking ballpark.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop right there.
Eating a bitch out and giving a bitch a foot massage
ain't eating the same fucking thing.
It's not.
It's the same ballpark.
Ain't no fucking ballpark, neither.
Now, look, maybe your method of massage
differs from mine.
But, you know, touching his wife's feet
and sticking your tongue in the holiest of holies
ain't the same fucking ballpark.
It ain't the same league.
It ain't even the same fucking sport.
Look, foot massages don't mean shit.
Have you ever given a foot massage?
Don't be telling me about foot massages.
I'm the foot fucking.
You're giving a lot of them?
Shit, yeah.
Got my technique down and everything.
I don't be tickling or nothing.
Would you give a guy a foot massage?
Fuck you.
You get him a lot?
Fuck you.
You know, I'm kind of tired.
I can use a foot massage myself.
Yo, yeah, yo, man, you best back off.
I'm getting a little pissed to you.
The entire walk-and-talk sequence into the apartment,
or into the apartment building,
and then walking up the elevator, walking through the hallways.
We also don't know what they're doing.
We know they have guns, but we don't understand why these guys are so
casually talking about all this.
And they keep drawing you into the story, drawing you in,
and they're having this weird, random conversation about foot massages.
And then the best is when Jules is like, let's get into character.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
To go to the door, yeah.
So you have that side, and then the foot massage being the third piece of it,
and them arguing about, Vincent basically ropes them in, being like,
oh, you're really good at foot massages, huh?
Would you give me one?
Oh, my feet are a little tired.
I'm the foot fucking master.
Yeah, we get foot fucking master.
sticking your tongue in the holiest of holies.
There's just so much good stuff
ain't no fucking ballpark.
It's not in the same sport.
And then we get Chavolta using fucking
within four words of each other in a sentence.
And Antoine fucking should have fucking known better.
He double fuckens it.
And basically we set up the premise that
Vincent is basically going to
Ryan O'Neill, Mia Wallace.
Because Lee Majors is going out of town.
Yeah.
One of my favorite Hollywood stories.
Right.
Hey, we can you, can you take my wife out?
I'm going to be out of town filming a movie.
And I was like, I sure can.
I could take Farah Fawcett out.
Do we do a lot of take my wife out on the town while I'm out of town anymore?
I just think it's a weird request.
I wouldn't quite know what to do with it.
I think it's okay for my wife to stay home.
Yeah.
Just one of my takes.
In fact, I encourage it at all times.
I think it's okay.
It's okay for my wife to be Amish when I'm not here.
Yes.
It's a weird one.
Go out with this super hot.
Hot hitman.
Where'd you stand on the foot massage argument, CR?
Part of it.
I think it's very intimate.
Is sexual a proxy act?
I would not give my mom a foot massage.
Like, that's like a, I think it is a very intimate thing.
Yeah.
Sean?
Don't massage my wife's foot unless you're a professional masseuse is one of my takes.
Yeah.
I think we're all lined.
Well, legendary scene, and that leads right to.
Scene number three, Vincent and Jules and Marvin's apartment.
Too early to give the Rick Dalton Award for the best fucking act they ever seen in my life?
I'm in tears when I watched this scene.
Looks like me and Vincent caught you boys at breakfast.
Sorry about that.
Did you have it?
Hamburgers.
Hamburgers.
The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast.
What kind of hamburgers?
Cheeseburgers.
No, no, no, no, no.
Where'd you get them?
McDonald's, Wendy's, Jack in the Box.
Where?
Big Kahuna Burger.
Big Kahuna burger.
That's that hot.
Hawaiian burger joint. I hear they got some tasty burgers. I ain't ever had one myself. How are they?
You mind if I try one of yours? This is yours here, right? This is a tasty burger. Vincent,
you ever had a big cahuna burger? Want a bite? They're real tasty.
In all-time performance. I hear they got some tasty burgers.
You mind if I have some of your tasty beverage?
My underrated favorite part of this scene, first of all, is Frank Whaley is awesome as Brett.
Great Frank Whaley run here.
I've headed back to the doors.
I think I have said, check out the big brains on Brett more in my life than any other movie line, maybe.
Like, every time somebody says something in television, I'm like, check out the big brains on Brett.
But my favorite part of this is actually Samuel Jackson's interactions with Burr Steers on the couch.
Yeah.
It's like, keep chilling.
flock of seagulls.
Yeah.
Well, and then the more you watch this,
you notice some of those stuff Travolta's doing in the deep background.
He's just fucking still half stone from the night before,
kind of wander around the kitchen.
He's smoking a cigarette at one point.
This is just,
or we're not even, by the time this is over,
we're not even 10 minutes into the movie, right?
Like 10.11.
And Sam is just throwing 145 miles an hour.
It's,
every line.
that he says is memorable and exciting
in something I repeat in my life.
Like, this is a tasty burger.
Like, I can't get that out of my head.
I had it in my head for 30 years.
Even just down to, like, him being happy
that it's Sprite.
He's like, what is this?
He's like, Sprite.
He's like, good.
That's that Hawaiian joy.
Which person in the Frank Whaley crew
could you have reasonably acted as in the movie
if you were pulled in?
Definitely a flock of seagulls.
I could have.
You remember.
You wouldn't have been.
Arquette in the bathroom later.
With the hand cannon.
With the hand cannon, yeah.
What are the odds that two different groups of people are eating,
or I guess that one group of dudes
are eating burgers at 7.45 a.m.?
It's one of the great unanswered questions
in American saying in the history.
Craig, you're stepping on nitpicks. Jesus.
Okay.
All right.
It's earlier than that.
It's like 722.
They wouldn't be awake.
And they've already gotten the burgers.
Yeah, I mean, we can do this now.
I just thought maybe it was an all-nighter.
And that was the one place that's open.
Brett doesn't seem like he's been up all night partying,
but they have like a, we've been sitting here all night.
The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast.
I feel like there should have been some video games there.
And then that leads to the, we get the briefcase in here.
We get the, pow.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Did I break your concentration?
We get the, what does Marcelus Wallace look like?
And then you read the Bible, Brett, and he does the whole thing.
I don't even know what clip we'll play when we're actually running this.
But that speech is not a short speech.
No.
Like, Sam's basically doing Othello on Broadway for five minutes.
He's just doing boom, boom, boom.
I wonder, like, how many takes this took?
How hard was this scene to do?
Did it just, like, flow out easily?
Like, I don't know.
I would watch a documentary about this scene.
Everything you read is that Tarantino is real good,
with actors and that they know exactly what they're
supposed to be doing when they get ready to start shooting.
Because there was one tidbit from
the
Half-Fad Center research about
Burr Steers that he kept fucking up
the scene because when noises would
happen, he would jostle. But when he would hear them
shoot Brett, he would jump. So they had to redo it a couple
times and they were like, what the fuck is this guy? And then he
went on to become, he did, he
directed, he goes down and he did some stuff.
Yeah.
Just to what Sean was saying,
part one about
Tarantino understanding
movie star persona,
movie personas.
The way he shoots Jackson
kind of getting low,
making him seem huge.
And the close,
close,
close-ups are like movie star close-ups.
Like,
you start this movie
and you're like,
Samuel Jackson is the movie star
in this movie.
It's so...
There's a moment
he turns his head
from left to right
and the camera follows him
as he's turning his head
and you're like,
oh, that is.
That's the McQueen thing.
That's the Marilyn Monroe
saying like...
Because in the first few minutes, you're like, oh, it's Travolta.
Travolta's going to run this.
Travolta's the alpha guy.
Like, I'm watching Travolta.
And then he is a background player.
They speak English and what?
English, motherfucker.
Do you speak it?
He's the best.
I love...
The burger's going to come up later in another category, but it really does look delicious.
It's fucking...
Yeah.
The food in this movie is, like, uniformly fantastic looking.
Next scene, Marcellus lectures, butch.
I just had to put it in because it's an unbelievable.
Your prime is all.
You gotta realize its speech?
Night of the fight, you may feel a slight sting.
That's pride fucking what you do.
Fuck pride.
Pride only hurts.
It never helped.
You fight through that shit.
Because a year from now,
when you're kicking it in the Caribbean,
you're gonna say to yourself,
Marcellus Wallace was right.
I got no problem with that, Mr. Wallace.
In the fifth,
your ass goes down.
And it's the same speech
that Pacino gives DiCaprio
at Russo and Frank
in once upon a time in Hollywood.
It's so awesome to see the motifs
echo across his...
Great call.
His movies.
I'm actually surprised
nobody's edited
the Marcellus
speech to Butch
and just put Biden's face
on Bruce Willis.
It's a hard
motherfucker fact of life,
but that's a fact of life
your ass is to get realistic about it.
Fuck pride.
If you mean it gets better with age, it don't.
It also gets the...
First of all, we never see Marsalis,
which is a really good Tarantino trick
because he does it with me.
So in your logic, would then,
when Butch goes up and Vincent's at the bar,
would it be like Vincent's Nancy Pelosi
and be like, what's up Palooka?
I think you heard me fine, punchy.
That seems great.
I also think that's why
A, he keyed the car.
Do we think that's why Butch through the fight
because he was offended by Marcellus's hitman?
I think Tarantino was asked about that,
and he says that he, like, is processing
in real time and making that decision
after that confrontation.
What do you think of the choice
not to show Marcellus from the front
during this monologue that's, like, two minutes?
I think he's just...
It's the same thing with not showing Mia
until the car.
I think he's just really good at character reveal.
I think he's really good at building up anticipation,
creating mystery with just obscuring things.
And you get this iconic image of the back of his head
with a bandit on his neck,
and he looks like the kingpin from the Spider-Man comics.
And it's myth-making, right?
It's like Marcellus is this mythical crime lord,
and we're going to have to wait a long time to see his face.
I just want to say to Paul George,
this provision is filled to the brim with unrealistic motherfuckers.
Motherfuckers who thought their ass would age like wine.
the four-year max deal
until your late 30s to try to win a title.
If you mean it turns to vinegar, it does.
You mean it gets better with age, it don't.
So it's, this is Biden and Paul George are now the same.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's where I went.
Scene five.
Not underrated because it's perfectly rated.
Vincent goes to buy heroin.
We have Rosetta Arquette with 18 piercings,
including one in her tongue.
That's a fallacious aide.
Yeah.
We have Panda, Baja, and Choco.
Yeah.
This is Panda from Mexico.
Very good stuff.
And that's Bava, different, but equally.
And that is Choco from the Hart's Mountains of Germany.
Now, the first two are the same.
300 a gram.
Those are friend prices.
But this one is a little more expensive.
This is 500 a gram.
But when you shoot it, you will know where that extra money went.
Now, there's nothing wrong with these.
This is real, real.
Real good shit.
But this one is a fucking madman.
From the hearts mountains of Germany.
300 for the first two, 500.
The other two are good.
It's the third one, though.
It's a fucking madman.
And Lance will take the Pepsi challenge
and gets that Amsterdam shit.
Coke is dead.
Heroin's coming back.
Dead is fucking dead.
I'm out of balloons.
My son pointed this out when we're watching it.
He liked how...
And you don't notice it unless you're looking.
for it, but you can see Stoltz the whole time in the mirror, right?
But it's filmed from, you hear his voice and you see Vincent, but kind of on the side, it's
easier to see in a movie theater than it is on a TV.
Reflections and how we see ourselves as a big thing in the movie.
You've got later on Uma Thurman looking into the mirror after she does the Coke.
You've got Fabien being reflected in the television.
Travolta in the bathroom.
Travolta in the bathroom.
This is like a thing that he does over and over again.
This also has the which ones Jody is that the girl with all the shit on her face,
which is the single funniest line of the movie.
So amazing.
Hey, what do you think about Trudy?
She ain't got a boyfriend.
You want to hang out, get high?
Which one is Trudy?
I want all the shit in her face.
No, that's Jody.
That's my wife.
All right, man.
Thank you.
No, I can.
I've got to be something.
All right, no problem.
No problem.
I don't.
So good.
30 years of that line, and it's still 100% funny.
And when you buy heroin,
what did it get right?
Would it get wrong?
This is panda.
Yeah, I think it underrated Choco.
If somebody says they're out of balloons
and you're like, wait a second, what the fuck?
Baggies, I don't know.
Lance really underrated Choco.
Stoltz is out of this world.
He's so good.
Perfect.
It's the bathrobe and the Birkenstocks.
His hair, the length of his hair.
It does really capture
the bullshit conversation.
you have with somebody while you're buying drugs where you're like,
we know why I'm here.
We know what I'm going to do as soon as this is over.
Yeah.
They obviously have like a friendship quote unquote so he gets high in his room,
but it's very funny to watch like it just sort of be like when he's like,
you want to hang out?
He's like, no, I don't.
Well, when Stolt, when Vincent is telling him about his car being keyed and everything
Stolt says, he's like, yeah, man, yeah, totally.
So you can't do it, you know?
Yeah.
He's just mimicking, like, just kind of moving his way through the conversation as quickly as
It's a funny little salesman thing where he's just like,
oh, I hope I still have some when you come back.
The Stoltesance, I guess we could have put in part one.
Yeah.
Because it's, that's kicking, our movie kicking and screaming the year before.
And it just seemed, and he's in singles as the mime.
And it just seems like every director loved Eric Stoltz.
What was that about Eric Stoltz everybody loved?
Such an easygoing charmer, you know?
Just seems comfortable in every kind of movie.
So they met at Sundance 91, I guess.
He's in Killing Zoe, right?
No, he was in the water dance that year.
Oh, okay.
And he's in the water dance, met Tarantino after Reservoir Dogg.
Pretty good movie.
Good movie, yeah, yeah, totally forgotten movie.
And approached him at a party.
It was just like Reservoir Dog is my favorite movie.
I saw at the festival.
I'm down for whatever you want to do.
Mm.
And so he's Lance.
Well, they were in sleep with me, killing Zoe.
Tarantino was above than that a little bit, too.
He produced that, which was written and directed by Roger Avery.
Yeah.
And kicking and screaming.
was 95.
Like Stoltz's
IMDB just from
95 to going backwards to
93. He's in like 12
things including some TV shows.
But a lot of like basically bit
cameo parts. Yeah. Because back
to the future was that was going to be the one
and then they knocked him out for Michael J.
Fox. Yeah. To me he was
like the kid from Mask and some kind of wonderful.
Yeah. And then he has this 90s indie
kind of a heartthrob,
kind of a day player. Like somewhere in the
middle of those two things. Oh, he's good to see him. Yeah, totally.
Scene six. The diner date.
Unless you want to put Vincent going to her house and the, the, uh...
There's great stuff in there where he's like reacting to the intercom.
I'm just trying to move it along. I have Vincent picks up Mia at her home as part of it.
I guess the whole thing could be there, but they go to Jack Rabbit Slims.
And, uh, I love every single thing about Jack Rabbit Slims.
what an amazing world they built it from scratch i think it was the what was it 20% of the budget 15% of
the budget just building this restaurant no i think they said so sandy and david wasco
production designer said decorator i think they said 15,000 dollars they did the whole restaurant
that was what i read in a book oh i thought they one of the things i read was that this was
the big expense building this restaurant because it doesn't exist it's modeled after a couple
of places that were around in l.a at the time there was like a
Was it a Disneyland restaurant?
Did they try?
No, Disney wanted to do Jack Rabbit Slims in one of the parks.
Oh, no.
They said no.
Yeah, but there was a 50-style restaurant in L.A.
The name escapes me right now that was very similar to this,
where it had the cars cut in half as the seats,
and it had the 50s movie posters on the wall,
and it had people dressed up.
Seems like a bad business plan to buy these old, expensive cars
and just chop them in half and turn them into diner tables.
Maybe that's why we have done a lot of it.
Don't want to eat there right now, though?
I mean, I want to go right now.
I'll tell you this.
If I went and they were like,
I'm sorry, we don't have the automobile table,
but we have this other.
I'm like, no, you put me in the fucking automobile table
100%.
You know, I think that part of the reason
that the food seems so good in this movie
and the food seems so good at Jack Rabbit's Slim
is like when they try the milkshake
is because people are saying this food is so good.
Yeah.
You know, like when he bites the burger.
Collusion.
Buddy Holly, Marilyn Monroe.
Bushemi is Buddy Holly.
It's kind of snuck in.
Fox Force 5.
She lays out.
the five characters.
There's a blonde leader,
a black demolition expert,
a Japanese kung fu expert,
a French seductress,
and then she's the Nives
Jokes Girl raised as a circus performer.
I don't know.
I would have filmed the pilot
in real life for this.
This sounds great.
He kind of makes this with Kill Bill.
Yeah.
And Kill Bill Bill is like the five women
who have these different personas.
This is basically Charlie's Angels
blown out in the mid-90s
that I'd just some surprised Fox was in like...
I think if he was probably making
this movie now, he would have done stuff like that.
Do you think he ever wrote a Fox Force 5 pilot?
I was going to say, I think he probably wrote out the entire Jack Rabbit Slim's menu, so yes.
Did he do that?
No, but you, but like, I don't know, but like, if I asked you, like, what were the other
things on the Jack Rabbit Slim's menu?
If I asked quitting that, he'd probably be like, here, this is what was on there.
Bloody as hell or burnt to a crisp, you know?
So, so specific.
But was it Martin Lewis or Amos and Andy?
Yeah.
What about you, Peggy Sue?
I'll have the Derwood Kirby Burger, Bloody, and a $5 shake.
I ain't with that shake. Martin and Lewis or Amos and Andy?
Martin and Lewis.
Did you just order a $5 shape?
Mm-hmm.
That's a shake.
That's milk and ice cream.
Last I heard.
That's $5.
You don't put bourbon in or nothing?
No.
Just checking.
I'll be right back with your drinks.
The $5 milkshake thread is phenomenal.
Yeah.
And then he's like,
a shot of bourbon in it?
It takes a god damn.
That's a pretty fucking good milkshake.
We get the Tony Rock E-horror foot story culmination
to find out what actually happened.
And then we get out of nowhere, this dance sequence.
So what does he do in that?
Travolta's like, that's one way of putting it.
Another way of putting it.
Yeah.
Another way of putting it.
But he never makes eye contact with it when he's talking.
He's really bashful, and he's really insinuating and really charming, but trying to, like, get under her skin a little bit.
He's so unheroine.
And he's high, and she's high.
She's coat down.
But she's so good at it because she's just like...
That's probably the most coherent, drugged up conversation anyone's had in a movie.
Yes, but he's, like, more low-toned, and she's up.
She's just gotten out of the bathroom, and she's just done a couple of lines.
And she's like, if you look at Uma in the scene, she's like, yeah, yeah, like, leaning in and, like, more aggressive.
They talk a lot, don't they?
Yeah.
The dance sequence is great.
And also had this.
Oh, Tramalta.
He's doing it again.
Yeah.
Clear out for Johnny.
As soon as he gets on his toes, you're like, oh, wow, he's locked in.
Never Can Tell.
Great.
Chuck Barry dropped there.
Never heard that song before this movie.
Yeah.
We've done a couple of dance movies, CR, recently, because we did the tango one, too.
Oh, yeah.
These movies that just assume everybody knows how to do a dance at the highest possible level.
I love watching this.
communicating.
This scene thinking about how high they are, because you almost feel like the way the movie
is being made has like a little bit of a stone quality.
That scene of her in the bathroom where she's doing lines that all the other women are
like, I just need some hairspray or whatever.
Like that's real.
But when they're in the restaurant part of the restaurant, it's like the surf music's playing.
Everything is going, whoosh.
You know, it's like this dream quality.
So in a weird way, I sometimes in reality wonder what it would have looked like to have
watch these two people start doing the twist in the middle of the restaurant.
I think there's like a reading of the movie that it's incredibly surreal and you've got a bunch of
high people and like is a lot of this stuff happening.
Yeah.
He's a reasonable question to ask, were they really dancing this well?
Yeah.
And Troultta said that when Tarantino asked him to do this and they started mapping out the dances,
that he didn't want to just do a twist.
He wanted to do other stuff.
So that's why he introduced like the surf wave and the band and dance and all this other stuff because
he was like, I remember the late 50s, early 60s dances.
It's crazy that that looks cool.
I need to underline that again.
That should have been the stupidest scene in movie history, and it's amazing.
Yes.
I mean, there's so many things in this movie,
you could almost have a category of would not have worked in any other situation.
Like, even Sam Jackson's Jerry Crowell.
Like, a happy accident on the set, you're just like, is that too much?
And it's perfect.
Like, there's so many things in this movie that just are kind of little miracles.
So I'm only going to mention my son two more times in this podcast.
Really is the proxy of watching Pulp Fiction with somebody who hadn't seen it.
So anybody I know has seen this movie and he had no idea what was happening.
Dan Sequin's Sense, they come back with the trophy, which is our next rewatchable scene.
And my son is watching it through the prism of, oh, my, so let me guess.
He's going to have sex with her and then Marcellus is going to want to kill him.
Like, he's talking to me as I'm going.
I'm like, just wait, just wait.
And I think I had forgotten the swerves in this movie, because we've all seen it so many times, how this is built to make you think this thing's going to happen.
And then over the next 10 minutes, this is, I might be my favorite stretch of the movie.
Her sitting down on the couch, getting a cigarette, he's in the bathroom talking to himself.
She pulls out the baggy.
There's that little stealth thing of if it had been a balloon, she would have known of his heroin, but it was the baggie.
so now she's tricked by it.
And then all of a sudden, he's in the car going 130 miles an hour.
Calling Lance.
And it's one of the craziest six, seven-minute scenes ever.
There's one thing before that, which is he goes to the bathroom,
and she puts on the urge over-crow cover.
And she dances.
And that's like, to me, that's definitely a great shot, Gordo contender.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where the camera's following her dancing and singing and going behind the beam in the house,
and she keeps seeing her emerge from behind the beam.
And then finally, when she settles and sits down on the couch,
that part is so great.
I also always loved that she is doing this whole, like, lip sync dance thing,
but then kind of gets bored of the song in the middle of the song
because that's what people high on cocaine would do.
They'd be like, I never mind.
I'm going to have something else.
Yeah, like, so I always love that.
The car crash is super funny.
Him calling Stoltz and Stoltz talking to him.
They'd be like, pray caller, pray caller.
Hang up.
Can we just quickly,
Lance is in a bathrobe sitting watching cartoons.
Eating cereal.
Eating fruit fruit.
fruit with a TV tray pulled up to his recliner.
His girlfriend's asleep.
And then the third girl is in there.
Yeah, she's just on the couch.
Still doing drugs.
Smoking bowls.
But it's like he has achieved pure and total zen where he is.
Yeah.
He has mastered the childless lifestyle.
Yeah.
The Quietstone friend.
So Tarantino said like anytime he'd ever seen.
like people doing drugs or going to somebody's house they're doing drugs, there's always this one person.
You know how they got there?
Yeah, yeah.
They're just kind of there.
So he's like, I got to put that into a movie.
Just this random third person that has no business.
It's a great touch, yeah.
The Travolta's freaking out about me is some good Travolta.
Hurry out, man.
Here, I'll tell you what they're doing.
No, no, no, man.
I ain't giving her a shot.
You're going to give her a shot.
I ain't given her the shot.
I never done this.
I ain't never done before either, all right?
I ain't starting out.
Look, you brought her here, and that means that you're gonna give her the shot.
The day that I bring an ODM bitch to your house, then I give her the shot.
Give her the shot.
Here.
Give her that.
All right, tell me what you're doing.
Okay, you're giving her an injection of adrenaline straight to her heart, but she's got a breastplate.
You've got to pierce through that.
So what you've got to do is you've got to be a needle down in a stabbing motion.
I got to stab her three times.
No, you don't got to fucking stab her three times.
You just get her once, but it's got to be hard enough to get through her breastplate into her heart.
All right?
And then once you do that, you press down on the plunger.
Okay, then what happens?
I'm kind of curious about that myself.
It ain't no fucking joke, man.
I'm not going to kill her?
She's supposed to come out of it like that.
It's all right, count to three.
All right.
Ready?
One.
And then, I mean, the needle is the first time in the theater.
Like we talked about in part one, it's like one of the most exhilarating scenes ever.
And it was fun to relive it through my son, not knowing what's going to happen.
The best is when they cut to Roseanne Arquette's face.
She's just like, yeah.
Yeah.
That's also in great job.
Cordo territory for me.
That, that,
yeah,
those three images
in a cut in a row.
He gets to do his one,
two,
three countdown,
which he loves to do.
Well,
just also,
like the mistranslation
of the instructions
since they don't have
the black book.
Yeah.
He's like,
you have to stab her down
and the,
I gotta break the breastplate.
Like,
I gotta stab her three times.
Like,
do you only got to stop her once?
Do we think this
would have worked?
Uh,
I mean,
you know,
I think it's narcah.
Like,
the guy who they had
consulting on the drug stuff
said that he had been revived
from an OD
by getting hit
salt water.
I don't...
Mm-hmm.
So, I mean, it happens.
Then he brings her back.
I'm of the opinion that if Marcellus lived his whole life, he'd never need to know about
this incident.
And then, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to have a heart attack and tells the joke.
So he purchased a fake chest for her and decided I didn't like it.
And then they did the reverse it.
So put the needle on her chest, pulled back.
Yeah.
And then they just flipped it to make it seem.
If you actually watch it.
you never actually see the needle go in the chest
that just feels like it.
I also really liked the...
Because like in the speed of which the movie is happening,
I always forget that when he gets to Stoltz's house,
which is in Outwater Village,
he's like,
do you know who Marcellus Wallace is?
And Stoltz is like, yeah.
And he's like, this is his girlfriend.
And like, if she fucking dies on your lawn,
like, I'm going to have to explain to him
that you didn't help me.
Well, he drops her...
At one point in her head, like, really kind of hits the grass hard.
Stoltz's...
They were knocking
Umar-thurman around, like,
crazy, yeah.
Is there ever been a better actress
for somebody who was definitely hot,
but also could look like
she got hit by a tsunami
and a tornado and had a heroin overdose
and can look like death warmed over,
but still a lot?
It's like four different movies like that.
Yeah.
The look on her face on the drive back
is legendary.
It's kind of like invented suicide girls.
Yeah.
It's like a style with the eyeliner and everything.
Courtney loves like, I want that.
Yeah.
C-Nate, the watch story walking.
This watch was on your daddy's wrist when they were shot down over that,
Hanoi.
He was captured from a Vietnamese prison camp.
He knew that if the gooks ever saw the watch,
it'd be confiscated, taken away.
The way your dad looked at it, this watch was your birthright.
You'd be damned if any slopes going to put the greasy yellow hands on his boy's birthright.
So he hit it.
In one place he knew he could hide something, his ass.
Five long years he wore this watch, up his ass.
Then he died of dysentery.
He'd give me the watch.
I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass.
Two years.
Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family, and I gave the watch to him.
It's crazy to go from the adrenaline shot,
which is one of the most exciting movie scenes ever made,
to one of the most mesmerizing monologues,
movie history, like right back to back.
It's like being on a roller coaster where you're like,
you think that you've hit a wall.
Yeah.
And then walking,
it's when the movie's supposed to calm down.
And you're like, this is weird.
Like, okay.
And you're like, this is chill.
This is just going to be a flashback, I guess.
And then as it keeps going and going and going, you're like,
whoa, we're going back up again.
I love that.
The guy kept the watch in his ass for five years.
And he's like, he died of dysentery.
So then I took it up.
It's like, died of disdirty because he had this watch in his ass for five years.
It's an amazing unbroken performance in a movie.
And obviously, Walken has some experience doing this with other monologues,
with Tarantino monologues.
He knows what he's doing.
He might be the goat of...
He's the preeminent...
Weird monologists.
Yeah.
He died.
He gave me to watch.
He died to give me to watch.
He died to give me to watch.
He gave me to watch.
I love the fact that the watch is from Knoxville, and that's where Bush goes.
Yes.
And where Quentin lived for a stretch of his life.
Ninth scene.
If you notice, I've skipped a lot of Butch stuff.
We're going right to Butch going back to get his wallet.
I mean, his watch.
I have the same thing.
The watch monologue, too,
Butch goes back to his apartment and kills Vincent.
The Toaster Murder.
The off-brand Pop-Tarts.
I'm not positive.
Butch was scared enough going back to his own apartment.
apartment after he had just robbed these mobsters of all this money.
And he's, but he's,
that's part of like his character, right?
He's just like,
I kind of disagree because the thing I was going to say is that,
that whole scene,
every other director is like,
Butch pulls up to his apartment and goes in.
And he does that one or shot of him climbing over all those like,
point essential North Hollywood backyard alleyways.
And it's real time.
It's not movie time.
Yeah.
So to me,
as a viewer, you're like, I'm so fucking nervous.
Yeah.
Because.
Yeah, you're right.
You know, it's like that buildup is so...
Well, you get that moment of relief where he walks in and he's like, no one's here.
No one cares.
No one's followed me.
I'm going to put a Pop-Tart in.
And then the realization of the guy...
Not positive you should have put the Pop-Tart in.
I'd have just grabbed the watch and left.
It was a bold choice.
Hard to overstate the shock value of Troultta just getting gun down halfway through the movie?
Stunning.
It's the...
There are a lot of moments in this movie that remind me of Psycho.
but it is very similar to
Janately.
Janet Lee?
getting killed in Psycho. I think he dies. Wellis is really good in this whole stretch. So do your karma point from earlier in this conversation? Do you feel like if Vincent isn't a dick to Butch at the bar, Butch doesn't kill him? I think he dies either way. Or is it just like survival of the fittest at that way? Yeah, it's a good question. Should have been an unanswerable for sure. I think he kills him no matter what because he just needs to survive.
things.
Yes, to survive.
Leads to seeing Marcellus
crossing the street, which is a great shot.
Car crash. We get Kathy Griffin.
We're a big chase.
I'm going to end the scene there so we can go to
scene 10.
Bring out the Gimp.
Gimp sleeping.
I guess you're going to have to go wake them up then.
This is when the
fucking, the ceiling comes off
this movie once and for all.
Speechless.
Understand.
And he kept going, what?
What's happening?
Like, he just couldn't fat.
All of a sudden, these guys have red balls in their mouth.
Yeah.
It's not just that he's inspired by deliverance.
It's so that he has teleported a pawn shop in Tennessee from 1974 into the middle of Hollywood.
Though I will say there are parts of North Hollywood and Burbank that are pretty weird that way.
Oh, yeah, tell us more.
No, if you go on the other, like there's a lot of guns stores in Burbank.
It gets pretty choppy.
Yeah.
Do you go to the gunstore before you buy heroin or after?
What's the sequence of?
Do we need a gunstore corner on every rewatchable episode from you?
What do you think the gun store in this town looks like?
This is a good pivot for me, junkie Chris.
The gimp coming out of the trunk has to be a top five,
what the fuck is happening moment in any movie.
So, psychologically.
Because you're just watching him unlock
and you're just like,
what's this guy doing back there?
And then all of a sudden
this guy comes out
with a leather mask on.
Do you think that this is in the movie
because he's trying to
taunt or provoke
a certain stripe of viewer?
Yes.
Like, that's the intention of this.
I think he's just trying to get
as weird as possible in the basement.
He's like, what are the weirdest things
that could happen in a pawn shop basement?
Well, what if there's a gimp in the trunk?
Yeah.
But 98% of the people who see
this movie the first time, have no idea what's going on.
They're like, I don't know men being locked in a trunk dressed in all leather.
Like, what is that?
Well, I, there's a famous sequence, like, party sequence in Wolf of Wall Street where, like,
when you watch the movie to me, it's always like, this is hell.
Like, in Martin Scorsese's mind, this party sequence of, like, Wall Street traitors,
like, dancing with strippers in 1987.
He's like, this is the worst possible thing that could ever happen in society.
To me, this is almost like, not just Bruce Willis, but like a black man, like a power
Black Man's idea of hell is being locked in a basement and raped by hillbillies.
And so, like, again, the movie has this kind of surreal feeling where you're like, is this
really happening?
Like, this is so strange and so unlike anything we've ever seen and yet feels natural to
the story at the same time.
How do you feel about the gimp laughing at Butch?
You know what, the gimp did, he kind of like, it's like a guy who's like so close to the end
zone and then he like has to do the
prime, the Dion Sanders
taunting. You know, if he had just
like chilled out. Then
they go into the back.
Then they also,
it's funny to listen to if you've seen
this movie a hundred times, but
the sounds of the two guys
with Marcellus where it's like, oh yeah!
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Yeah! Oh!
It's like, I just imagine the recording
session of the two guys.
Can you give me like two more uh-hs?
And yeah, yeah, I got it, I got it.
Oh, yeah.
Is that what you do when you and a friend are cheering it on?
So Butch breaks out.
And now we have the moral dilemma.
We watch Paul George score 12 points.
Four for 17.
Two for nine on a Thursday.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
And we got the gimp.
We're like, mm-hmm.
Is that Daryl?
Going from machete to bat
to chainsaw to samurai sword once he realizes.
Yeah.
Sean's out, by the way.
If we're in the butch spot there,
Sean's gone.
Well, is it you or is it Chris?
No, it's your enemy.
It's whoever your enemy is.
Oh, good point.
Yeah, Sean's like, I gotta go
with the Mets are on in an hour.
It's some random guy who tweeted at you once.
Some guy did a babel and tweeted, Sean.
you got this wrong about twisters
I definitely will not save that person
CR goes back
I think CR feels bad
for as awesome as like this
I probably would go back
yeah see CR goes back
I'm gone
of course
I'm out I gotta get a band-aid for my nose
I'm taking that bite
Bill to be fair you never would have gone back to
Fabian you would have been like hey
you talk to the cab driver
you're like why don't we pick up Scotty's money
and go to Knoxville
She was like, I lost the watch.
I'm like, I'm fucking out.
This is it for us.
I'm done.
You had one job.
When Butch is walking out of the pawn shop and stops and starts evaluating the various weapons.
Yeah.
Eventually getting to the samurai sword.
That activated much of the 16-year-old men in the movie theater.
Really, this is literally my dream.
We're going to choose my ultimate weapon.
It's very video game.
Yeah, yeah.
It's funny you mention that because when you got the.
My son was like, oh, oh, like he made like a noise.
Yeah.
When he goes back down, Maynard's face is just perfect.
That that shot is unreal.
It's a great shot, Gordo candidate.
Yeah.
The camera's right in the Maynard's face.
Step aside, bitch.
It's very similar to what you said about the not seeing the needle going to the heart.
Same thing here where there's so much violence in this movie, but you don't see a lot of the violence.
You know, he doesn't really, and he obviously been criticized.
for decades about the gratuitous nature
of the violence in movies.
But, like, he's actually very strategic
about what he shows and doesn't show.
No, man, I'm pretty fucking far from OK.
A pair of pliers and blow torch.
Yeah, medieval.
Does Zed die from the gunshot,
which I think is right in his balls?
I think he is...
You risk him bleeding out.
Pleads out in probably two minutes, right?
Gotta get those guys with the blowtorch
over fast.
I love the, like, what's...
However the line goes.
where it's like, no, I mean like, what next for you and me?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, what now?
No, like, for us.
Let me tell you what, now.
I'm gonna call a couple of hard pipe-hitting niggers to go to work on the homes here
with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.
You hear me talking hillbilly boy?
I ain't through with you by damn sight.
I'm gonna get medieval on your ass.
Now between me and you.
Getting medieval on, I'm going to get medieval on your ass was another one.
Like, Marcellus was so cool in this movie, and I think a lot of lines anecdotally just got pulled
into real life.
I wrote for the Can You Dig It?
I'm not done with you by a damn sight.
I'm going to get medieval on your ass.
Because I'm going to get medieval on your ass was super popular.
Yeah.
And parodied and talked about it.
And now I feel like it's kind of gone.
Like, I feel like that has not.
It's ready to come back.
And it's just a great line.
Yeah.
there is no me and you, not no more.
And Butch leaves.
I also love his LA privileges have been revoked.
Yeah.
Fair.
Yeah.
Good deal.
Maybe could have been a little more appreciative of the guy who saved him from.
Butch could have been like, I have Clippers season tickets.
Can I come back to see Corey McGettie?
Well, we have a special new category for this spot.
We're still going with the watchable.
sense. The My Sharona and the Gimple Ward for Best Inadverton reconsideration by a director.
It goes to Quentin Tarantino who was going to use My Shirona for the sodomy scene from the
king's or from the neck. And he thought it would be really funny. He said, quote, it has a
really good sodomy beat to it. I thought, oh God, this is just too funny not to use. Name me
another director who would have said that. I wonder what else has a sodomy. We should do the
sodomy beat pyramid right now.
Maybe next one.
Reality Bites also wanted it
for the convenience store scene.
And the licensing people basically chose
reality bites over the scene where they're like,
hey, we had this movie.
There's a gang rape in the basement of men.
And can we use your song?
And they're like, no, thank you.
And now Tarantino says,
he's glad.
They said no.
He said it would have been too cutely comic.
So he'd pick Comanche.
by the surf band,
The Rebels.
Another sidebar,
because we have so many
probably in answerable questions
for this movie,
probably in answerable questions
about the Gimp.
Question number one,
what did the Gimp do all day?
Yeah, I have,
is this more of a side hustle
or a full-time situation?
So you think this is an elective
by the Gimp?
I think he's enjoying himself.
You don't think he is a imprisoned man.
No.
I think this is a,
this is his past time.
At minimum, maybe it's his job.
So, like, Tuesdays from 10 to 5?
Okay.
It's like, what are you doing today, Bob?
And does he have...
I go to the pawn shop on Tuesday.
I had a follow-up question related to this.
Does Zed offer a benefits package?
That was my next question.
Full-time job or part-time job?
Well, Zed is an officer of the law, right?
Sure, so he knows a little bit of getting good bennies.
Or is he a mall security guy.
I never got that straight.
Did the gimp get benefits?
Yeah.
I literally wrote the same thing.
We're on the same page.
Okay.
Was he an actual gimp?
did he have a disability
So
Why did they call him the gimp?
I think the gimp is because of like
the outfit
I think also the nature of his work
Right
No you're thinking like gimpy
He's gimpy like he's got some sort of gimpy
Thing
Yeah
Well let's do BDSM corner now
Let's see R
Get in there Chris
Bring it down for us
When I like
I fire up a spoonful of choco
When I get the gimp outfit
When the panda hit.
You really see where that extra $200 goes?
So I don't know if this is correct, but I just Googled Gimp Suit and I'm reading about it.
It says the term Gimp suit is thought to have originated in the 1990s and the acronym Gimp stands for Guy in Mask permanently.
Oh, interesting.
Oh.
So Tarantino has said that the Gimp was, the backstory for the Gimp is that he was a hitchhiker that Maynard or Zad got and turned into their sex slave.
Oh.
aka the Gimp.
I hate when that happens.
So,
I'm assuming the Gimp didn't die.
I thought he hung.
I thought he died.
I thought he got hung?
Yeah, I did.
Well, you think Marcellus is going to be letting the Gimp live?
Well, that's where his benevolence comes out.
I'm just saying there's a scenario where they don't think the Gimp's dead and the Gimp wakes up from his concussion.
What do his next, like, five hours look like?
They should treat him like a rescue dog.
you know, just like let him off into an open field
in his outfit.
You think the Gip just goes to fucking
in and out?
Yeah, you weren't involved with this Gip.
Just drop them off
with the tarpits, you know?
Another Gimp question.
They say they take, when they're taking
Marcellus, they go take them in a Russell's old
room, which is the room they go,
what happened to Russell?
Is Russell the Gimp?
Is Russell alive or dead?
Oh, maybe Russell.
Russell's the guy who taught them how to, like, have a sex dungeon at the bottom of a point shop.
Oh, yeah, right.
He's like the scoutmaster.
Yeah, yeah.
He's like Will Ferrell and Wedding Crangers.
We don't think Russell became the Gimp?
No, I like the, like, hitchhiker thing.
Like, he's basically being kidnapped and indoctrinated into this world.
Like, they're driving.
He's some guys hitchhiking back from Magic Mountain.
Should we get Sierra Gimp?
Magic Mountain.
I don't know.
You want me to have a Gimp?
Oh, get you a Gimp, you know, we'll put in for the budget for 25.
watch.
Yeah.
Join me in the studio.
The Gimp!
Gimp! What did you think of presumed innocent?
Chris is like, here, sit down,
pushes his head down, sit next to him.
You got to talk to clutch about that,
any Gimp in your next contract.
It's true, yeah.
Figure that out.
Next scene.
Vincent shoots Marvin right to Jimmy's house.
Marvin.
What do you make all this?
Man, I don't even have an opinion.
Well, you got to have an opinion.
I mean, do you think that God came down from heaven
and stop it.
Oh, what the fuck's happening in the house?
Oh, man.
Oh, man, I shot Marvin in the face.
Why the fuck did you do that?
I didn't mean the dude was an accident.
Oh, man, I see some crazy-ass shit in my time, but just...
Chill out, man.
I told you was an accident.
He probably went over a bump or something.
Hey, the car ain't hit no motherfucking bump.
Hey, look, man, I didn't, I didn't mean to shoot the son of a bitching gun went off.
I don't know why.
Well, look at this fucking mess, man.
We get the every bullet misses those guys, Divine Intervention.
But then, oh, man, I shot Marvin in the face.
There's so much good.
stuff in here just with like Marvin's brains
on Jules's wig and all that.
And then they end up at Jimmy's house. God damn
Jimmy, this is some serious
gourmet shit.
I really like the scene when they're in the
bathroom together and they're washing the blood off their hands.
Maybe if you had lava.
Right.
I mean, the two of them together are so good.
Vincent also, crucially, is like
he's got that edge to where he's just like,
I said I'm sorry. You know, like he's
like, he wants to be forgiven immediately.
They call the wolf.
It's 30 minutes away.
I'll be there in 10.
I like when the wolf tastes Jimmy's coffee.
When he comes in,
he turns around and he goes to him.
It's good.
And then please would be nice.
Wolf gets bad.
Yeah.
It's pretty pleased with sugar on top.
We get Uncle Conrad and Aunt Ginny.
We get the brain duty fucked up,
repugged and shit.
Which I think might be my favorite back and forth
with those guys.
Yeah.
Can we, there is...
Race car in the fucking red.
Every time I think I touch brain, I'm super flat T&T.
This also gets to let's not start sucking each other's dicks.
Oh, yeah, my favorite line.
You may get out of this yet.
I can't believe this is the same car.
Well, let's not start sucking each other's dig spite yet.
Phase one is complete, clean the car, which moves us right along the phase two.
Clean you two.
So much good, right.
I had that in my car, my ESPN.
I said that once to my wife when we were like, man, it did.
Looks like we beat all the traffic.
Yeah, we're making good time.
On the way to O'I.
And I'm like, let's start sucking.
It's the best time to use that.
She's like, what the fuck do you just see?
I used to use it in my newest paint column, and I changed it to popsicles.
Yeah, yeah.
But always like the homage to the wolf.
It's probably my second favorite line in the whole movie.
I also like when he has the hose with them and he's like, okay, gentlemen, you've been in county before.
Fucking banana slugs t-shirt.
do they're your clothes motherfucker
look like a couple of dorks
I just love everything about this stretch
that scene 11
scene 12 is breakfast with jewels of Vincent
bacon tastes good pork type
the argument about pigs versus dogs
divine intervention moment of clarity
I gotta go take a shit
tell that bitch to chill
fission shut the fuck up
and that's the last thing
arguing about the suitcase and Sam's
I will say Sam's fucking cooking
what's Sam's best scene
in this movie.
I think it's still
the Brett.
It's still Big Coonerberger
is his best scene.
But he's mesmerizing
in this scene.
Bonnie's situation
is my favorite chapter.
Reviving Mia is the most
rewatchable scene.
The stretch where
as soon as Tim Roth
sits down across
from Sam Jackson,
I think,
is the most,
is the thing I probably
am like returning to
the most because it's
the deepest moment
in the movie.
It's the movie.
that like, when you're like, what is this movie about?
That's where thematically the movie is...
The Old Testament jewels to the New Testament.
Yes. The transition. It's the...
You know, I think that and...
You know, I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing.
Those two moments are the two best. They're like in war.
I would go with the last sequence now at this stage of my life.
You're both wrong?
Okay.
Most rewatchable scene is when Mia overdoses all the way through and the needle and he stays there.
That's what I said. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
I said reviving Mia is my favorite scene.
from when he pulls up.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wait,
do you have a favorite chapter, though?
My favorite stretch of the movie is when he shoots Marvin in the face all the way to the wolf going to the diner.
Just that whole part is my favorite part.
I think I prefer part one.
Because part one, you also get the overdose.
You get both Jules and Vincent and you get Vincent and Mia.
What do you got, Craig?
Jack Rabbit Slims through Mia's revival.
Oh.
But I got to include Jack Rabbit Slims in that.
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All right, what's the most 1994 thing about this movie?
I'll give you seven nominations,
and if you have any of an ad,
feel through to throw them in.
Restaurants having enough money
in the register to be,
worth robbing.
That's my
what's age
the worst.
Okay.
$1.40 for a pack of red apples.
Jesus Christ.
What a country we had.
Striving to be on a network pilot?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Heroin making a comeback.
Because Coke's dead is fucking dead.
Julius Sweeney.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Riding a motorcycle with no helmet.
A $5 milkshake
seeming like a lot.
Yeah, like a luxury.
I think they're $18 at the Alamo draft house now.
They make a mean milkshake at the Alamo draft house, but it's like $18.
Yeah, you go in basically a sugar cone after.
Anything else for what's 1994?
Watching whatever's on television?
But I feel like I'm with two of the number one purveyors of I just turn on the TV and flip around.
Yeah, now we have like 500 channels.
I'm just, I just mean like just like, be like, what are you watching a motorcycle movie, you know?
And there's a series of scenes with people watching TV.
You've got Young Butch is watching a.
Captain Gangaroo?
No, no.
Something super racist.
Clutch cargo.
Yeah.
Clutch cargo.
You've got Stoltz.
You got Lance watching TV.
And then there's one more.
Fabian's watching whatever.
Yeah.
So that's three.
That's really good.
I think the preponderance of Zippo lighters in this movie is I remember being 12 and like kids in middle school, like bringing Zipoliteers and being like, how cool is this, man?
When I smoked it would be like I would get a Zippo.
Then I would burn it out, get lighter fluid all over my hands.
And then my hands would stink for a long time.
And then I was finally like,
fuck it, I'm just going to get a Bick.
Did you have a Zippo or just use a Bick?
I was always an old school lighter.
Just replaceable.
Never felt like that was a good use of resources.
94 smoking in restaurants, obviously.
Flip phones.
Yeah.
You know, a couple of them have mobile phones, but they, you know.
Prank caller, prank caller.
I said this already been knowing huge swathes of dialogue
from a movie word for word because of the,
soundtrack. That's not something we really
have anymore. It's good. Bruce's outfit
when he goes back for the watch is quintessentially
like 1994, like the
white t-shirt jeans and a suede jacket.
Yeah.
Single best line delivery delivery
is another category.
I have so many nominees.
Yeah, maybe we should just all pick
three.
Okay.
Craigor said he'd give me to watch.
He gave me to watch.
He died. He gave me to watch.
He died. He gave me to watch.
is etched onto my soul.
I'll be deaf!
Yeah.
That was fucking trippy
from Rosanna Arquette.
Yeah.
You can get a stake here, Daddy, yo.
Don't be a...
Square. That's good.
What's up with that?
The square.
It's an animated square.
What is that in reference to?
It's...
There's a video about this
that shows like the history of this,
but in a series of TV shows
in the 60s,
this is something you would see
like in the Flintstones episode,
stuff like that.
People would draw a square on screen
you get the dotted line square.
One of my nitpicks is that she actually draws a rectangle and not a square.
I had that as a nitpick as well.
It's an absolute 100% of rectangle and not a square.
I think that's all you had to say.
Yeah.
Is really high up there.
That is a tasty burger.
Does he look like a bitch?
For Bruce, though, it's sorry, baby, but I had to crash that Honda.
It's probably like really up there.
Yeah.
For Bruce, I had Zed's dead, baby.
Yeah.
That's good.
How about you, Lash Leroux?
You think you can keep your spurs from jingling and jangling?
I have, well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet as my personal number one.
I love that you send in the wolf.
I like that.
Oh, man, I'm pretty fucking far from okay.
Just the way he says that, you're like, oh, man.
And then I actually like Amanda Palmer at the beginning with the...
Oh, looks a cute every motherfucker, what are you?
She's great.
A magic marker, a fucking black magic mark.
Parker. A felt pen.
I also like what Tramolta does.
Don't be looking like that. Like that, all right?
I can feel you look.
I respect you.
What's age the best?
An all-time great movie poster, which we discussed in part one,
done by artist James Verdes Soto,
who also did Ocean's 11 and a bunch of other great ones.
And then eventually there was a lawsuit in 2021 about it.
From the photographer who took the Uma Thurman picture,
who was pissed that he got left out of the world.
So you can go Google it if you're interested.
CR, this question is for you.
What's the best for me?
Certain movies, I've never done anything more than pot my entire life.
I've never tried cocaine, anything.
But as I've discussed in past podcast, certain movies where I'm like, oh, man, I can see it.
The Vincent Heroin scene, the way it's filmed, is pretty seductive?
Any piece of it make you want to go, ah, I could try it once.
A little Bava on Wednesday night?
A little bava while the Sixers dualed hornets.
With the music,
I actually have,
what's the best is a nostalgia I have
for the lifestyle of this movie,
but beyond heroin.
Cheeseburgers, vanilla coax,
constant smoking cigarettes,
having a beer in the morning,
listening to cool music constantly.
It can't tell if it's morning, noon, or night.
Just like that.
the way it presents life is very like
I never had it exactly
but I am very nostalgic for the time in my life
that most resembled it.
I had a much more specific but related version of that
which is that incredible feeling
when you've gotten home from dinner
and you're fucked up and happy
and you put on some music and you're like,
we did it.
Because when Mia gets home
and they have so much sexual energy between them
and he goes to the bathroom and she's like,
I'm in charge of the universe.
She feels so good.
She's so happy.
that's good one.
The Hanoi pit of hell
had aged well.
It's just so fucking funny.
Two great all-time,
let's keep this one between us,
if that's cool moments,
where you have me and Vincent
after the overdose.
And Marcelus and Butch are like, yeah,
let's never talk about this again.
I like what movies do that.
With age the best,
the Tarantino and Mexican standoff,
which she figures out how to do again.
I mentioned the stealth joke about Butch's watches, causing his dad-to-die dysentery.
She's just walking kind of slips that one in.
The baggy balloon thing, which I don't think I caught until, like, the 29th time I saw the movie.
Which is why she gets confused.
Yeah.
But isn't it the heroin, like, really brown?
Yeah.
I think she's supposed to be so fucked up.
Yeah, she isn't.
Yeah.
Because it's a speedball.
So her heart would fucking explode when that happens.
Yeah.
I like Willis and Travolta staring each other down.
It's just age the best because it's, you know,
they're only in the movie two times together
with these just brief interactions.
Yep.
Al Green.
And then another one you notice
after 40 times that
you know,
Vincent dies because he has to keep shitting
because he's taking heroin,
which makes you shit.
Guy will go to the bathroom anywhere.
That has a shit all the time.
Good point.
No, I mean, it aged well from the sense
that you don't notice it.
Heroin makes you you...
Conspirated, actually.
I thought it made you have
like the runs and stuff.
at least according to transpotting.
It's the opposite.
Why does he have to just shit everywhere he goes?
I guess he's just, he's also eating.
Maybe his irritable bowel syndrome?
Yeah, he's eating pancakes and bacon.
I might be the answer.
Any other what stage the best?
So just the fact that Sam Jackson's performance
actually transcends
the memeification slash commodification of that part
and every line is like a joke
or it's gone on to become like a sane.
or it's gone on to pop culture resonance.
Yeah.
And in the actual performance,
it's like basically the only like analogy I have
is like it's like the Rolling Stone song,
Satisfaction.
It's like you've heard it a billion times.
Yeah.
And then when you actually listen to satisfaction,
you're like, holy shit,
this is a really good.
And that's how I feel about this performance.
We just want to go see Apocalypse now over the weekend.
And Satisfaction plays in that movie.
And I was like, this song's fucking good, man.
There's good music in Apocalypse.
Really good.
Great.
Got got a word.
Wait, can I just say
a couple more?
What's age of us?
Time-shifting storytelling.
I felt like this like really
put that front-center
and now movies and TV.
We talked about this recently
on No Way Out.
We're like showing you something
from later in the movie
and then putting it
like that's really popular.
Yeah, it's like still showing up
in like Station 11.
Yeah, yeah.
And just pop cultural references
as like a crutch for character building
where it's like this guy
who you would not imagine
likes the Brady Bunch
is talking about the Brady Bunch
in my movie.
So he's more relatable, even though he kills people for a living.
Quentin's version of shared universe, too, is incredible.
We didn't even talk about that.
We kind of, like, gotten used to it with Marvel and DC and all this stuff.
But his idea of creating, like, a movie realistic version of Los Angeles
and having all these characters, like, populating it.
And, like, it goes so deep.
Like, I didn't not know this, that Bonnie is referenced in Reservoir Dogs.
Yeah, the nurse.
And it's supposed to be the nurse who comes to fix up.
Tim Roth.
Yes.
And that's Jimmy's life.
And that's fucking incredible.
Yeah.
And in that same scene
that you're talking about,
you know,
Joe also references
Alabama.
Yeah.
Who is Keitel's partner
in that movie.
And she shows up
one year later in true romance.
And, you know,
like there's a million.
Aldo Rain's family.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The red apple cigarettes
and all this stuff
that recur in these first
three or four movies
that Quinn did.
Tarantino gets
what's age the best, too,
because even they said that
and that
Britschisco thing I mentioned earlier
where they're like, is this too much too soon?
What's going to happen to this guy?
Now 30 years later,
turns out to be one of the best filmmakers.
I wrote the Declaration of Tarantino's The Future of Movies,
but it took a little while.
Because he waited three years to make Jackie Brown
and Jackie Brown, which is an incredible film,
but was not celebrated like pulp, too.
So it did actually take closer to 10 years.
Is Grindhouse after Jackie Brown?
Kill Bill is after Jackie Brown.
Great shot, Gordo, most cinematic shot.
I'll give you the shot looking up from the trunk of Vincent Jules.
Lans through the mare selling heroin.
The jaw shot for Mia getting stoned.
Marcellus with the donuts.
What else do you have?
We talked about a couple of them.
The oneer of Bruce Willis walking through North Hollywood to get back to his apartment.
The deep focus shot of Butch coming in as Marcellus is getting raped and the Maynard's face.
It was Maynard.
And the shot of Fabian standing.
in the TV screen.
I had that too.
And he's like talking to her
and he's like, what are you watching?
And she's like a motorcycle movie.
Yeah.
He's like, it's too early for this much violence.
I like, this is a less iconic one,
but the image of me
a walking away from Vincent
into the bathroom at Jack Rabbit Slims.
Yeah.
And then the next shot you see
is her head coming up
in the bathroom mirror.
And then did you say,
maybe I didn't hear
Butch leaning against the wall
in the foreground as like a wounded Marcellus
is walking down the alleyway with a gun
right before they go into the lawn shop.
That's a really cool shot.
I will say that for as awesome as this film has so many great shots,
to me, it's just an amazing act of editing.
And, like, so Sally Menke cut this.
And the cuts, especially, like, transitions are so sick in this movie
that they're just, like, on another fucking level.
Denna Thieves, Benihano Award, scene stealing locations.
It's got to be Jack Rabbit Slums.
Kid Cutty Pursuit Happiness Award, Best Needle Drop.
let's stay together son of a preacher man girl you'll be a woman
is in the finals I think you don't like miserly into jungle boogie
could I just think like it's the music dropping out of nowhere
my pick is never can tell for the dance sequence the Chuck Barry song
oh that's good I also will just honorable mention for
flowers on the wall the song that Butch sings in the car after he picks up
the watch my honorable mention is if love is a red
this Maria McKee's song, which is being whistled as they collapse into the pawn shop.
But it's a really good song.
Well, we did it, guys.
The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food or Drink.
It's always good to hand out an award that's named after the award.
So obviously, Big Coonerberger.
Might have to win.
I got to say, though, can I make the case for $5 milkshake?
Yes, please.
And can I make the case for Jimmy's coffee?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good call.
Good fucking gourmet shit.
If Bonnie goes to the store, she buys shit.
It's ahead of the curve.
Yeah.
I thought it was really interesting
that the wolf drinks coffee
with lots of sugar and lots of cream.
I feel like if anyone were to write that character,
it'd be like black.
No, in the 90s, though,
I feel like that was a big,
like I want to see the spoon standing up in the coffee.
So Quinn drinks his coffee
with lots of sugar and lots of cream personally.
And the only character in the movie
who does not drink their coffee
with lots of cream and lots of sugar is Fabian.
And she takes it black
when she talks about what she's going to get at breakfast.
And esteemed Hollywood agent James Baby Doll Dixon
Cream and sugar
I want the spoon standing on the fucking bottom of the cup baby
So we get the Big Kahuna burger
$5 milk shake
Jimmy's coffee and I guess you could put
Brett's tasty beverage in there as well
The Sprite
Yeah
I think the Big Cohooner has to win because it's the awards named after it
Agreed also you're like I
I thought about getting a cheeseburger each time I watched
The cheese looks like it's perfect
melted. But the $5 milkshake is
kind of the same Jackson of the best supporting
actor category. Like, I can't believe I even win.
So there's multiple dialogue
pieces about me. Do you like vanilla Coke?
I do, actually.
Do you like a vanilla Coke? I don't know if I've ever had a
vanilla Coke. They don't really order it. They don't have it in restaurants.
It's harder to find 30 years ago. Yeah.
Maybe. I know it's much harder to
find. The Vincent
Chase Award for
Are We Sure This Guy's Good at His Job?
Yeah. Let's talk it out.
I have some great ones here.
Can I make the case for Vincent Vega?
Mm-hmm.
Absolutely.
Has a heroin problem.
Seriously considers fucking his mobster boss's wife.
Nearly kills his mobster boss's wife.
Loses butch right after the fight.
Fails to check the bathroom at Marvin's apartment.
Accidentally shoots Marvin in the face.
Has a serial shitting problem.
Dis respects the wolf for no reason.
Literally no reason at all.
Has a bad temper.
Leaves his zes his zes.
gun in the kitchen on the counter during a
stakeout so he can go take a shit and gets gun
down and killed. Why did
he spend three years in Amsterdam?
Because he sucked. They told him to go
the fuck away and get your shit together. This was a version
of my hottest take.
Okay. Is that Vincent
has both the craziest 72 hours
in movie history when you go through every single thing
that happens to him and also he's completely incompetent.
Yeah. And it just won't shut the fuck
up about Europe. Yeah.
I don't think that he's the winner of this category
personally. Who is it?
Well, I think it's Zed.
Because this is a real you had one job situation.
You had one job.
Your job was to capture these guys and rape them.
That was your whole thing.
You're Zed.
That's all you do.
You've got a guy literally a trunk who's a Gimp.
A peace officer.
But he only has that job so he can do this.
Okay.
And you failed big time.
He's a capturer slash raper.
He took his eye off the ball.
It is weird that they're like Gimp, you keep an eye on this guy while you're...
That's what I'm saying.
Gimp, we're going to chain you up.
Keep an eye on them.
And if anything happens, you'll be bound to the ceiling.
A lot.
So he empowered Gimp
and he got killed because he did that.
That's a huge failing.
I like that you're using Gimp as like a proper down.
Can we talk one out?
I have one more.
Yeah.
The wolf?
I thought about this and I pulled back.
Come on.
He got that car ready in 40 minutes.
First of all, reckless driving.
So draws attention to himself.
Yeah, very true.
Shows up.
I don't think he gets off on the right foot.
Sure with Jimmy.
He does.
but he kind of makes Vincent and Jules seem like,
you know, like he talks down to them.
And his big suggestion is clean up after yourselves.
And I know a guy who has a junkyard.
Like, okay.
I wrote that as well.
It's like, so his big idea is like,
clean up the car and then we'll take it to an impound.
That's the wolf.
Wow.
And leaves him at the impound.
Are you sure the wolf was good?
No.
I just think that way at the end when they're like,
oh my God, Mr. Wolf, it was an absolute honor
to work in your presence.
It's like, what the fuck did he do?
He got Jimmy to give him.
them some blankets. I have another one.
Yeah. Marcellus Wallace.
Oh, this is great.
So, Marcellus Wallace is a
world-class crime lord. Well,
are you sure? Well, let's just say that
that's how he's presented in the film. Later
in the film, we see him walking across the street
carrying a box of donuts.
Sir, do you not have anyone
who can go get you donuts?
Did you really let your appetite
get in the way of your future?
I think he is a... So he obviously
lives in the Hollywood Hills. He's very
successful. He's described as a millionaire
by the wolf. But I think he's
like an upper middle class gangster.
Chris,
you could have someone go get you donuts.
You don't have to go to the donut shop and you don't run a criminal
empire. Maybe he likes doing errands. He likes keeping busy.
Maybe he loves that part of...
Chris has people get heroin for him.
Choco.
So Vincent Vega, Marcellus,
and the wolf. And Z.
The wolf and Z.
also, Brett.
What is Brett doing?
Brett is doing a deal with Marcellus Wallace
and then reneging on the deal?
You're Brett.
I have a lot of sympathy for Brett.
Why?
Because I think Brett didn't know what he was stealing.
They freak out.
And Marvin fucking double-crosses Brett.
He lets those guys into the room.
Well, you can't let a guy like that in your crew.
I guess not.
But look what Brett's got to work with.
He's got Marvin and flock of seagulls.
So you think Marvin double-crossed them.
Yes.
Yeah.
He unlocks the door.
I think the winner.
Zet. I think fantasy's right.
Okay.
You just can't be a professional
hillbilly rapist and
take your eye off the ball like that.
You just can't.
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New category that I fucked up the first time.
The Harry Dunn Award for Best Bathroom Moment.
Vincent in the bathroom is Mia snorts cocaine.
You're going to go home.
You're going to jerk off.
Jules and Vincent cleaning up.
Mm-hmm.
getting blood all over the towels.
Marvin's buddy charging out of the bathroom.
Mia doing coke with a bunch of bimboes.
They're just normal people.
Jack Grabbs.
Let me cook.
Butch in the shower with Fabian.
Vincent flushed in the toilet and bringing in his own murder.
Or Vincent taking a dump at the diner and reading modesty blaze.
Great call.
I didn't realize there are so many bathroom scenes.
Thank you.
This is an incredible job by you.
What do you got?
Best bathroom.
My favorite is the Jules and Vincent washing their hands.
I think that's the way.
His house looks like a fucking maxi-pad.
But there's something very, very clever about making John Travolta cool again
in one of the coolest movie parts of the 1990s,
and then having him get shot and killed in a bathroom.
You know, like the sort of like embarrassment of that is really clever.
I don't think people would have gotten over it if it was linearly structured.
I think if the movie ended with him getting killed and Bruce Willis winning,
I think people would be like, what the fuck is going on?
But the fact that he comes back is huge.
Well, the Butch's Girlfriend Award for Weeklink of the film.
Another category named after something in the film.
The winner is 12 straight minutes of Butch's girlfriend.
12.
It's been literally years that people have been waiting for you to discuss this.
I don't need to go too hard on it.
But the defense, the defense of this character, right?
If you're going to defend it, if you're going to be like,
I'm actually, I'm in the Butch's girlfriend business.
You need some form of her as a character.
This is like being in the James Wiseman business.
Right.
James Wiseman, it's like, listen, you need a big man with curry, pick and roll,
rim protection.
Light years ahead.
Butch's girlfriend is like,
Butch is a cocky asshole, betwelching, boxing, murdering, badass.
Right?
But he also has this domesticated side.
He's got this girlfriend and she wants to have pancakes.
I'm going to show this balance and then put him back in the world
where he's being a badass again.
The counter to that.
Not a great actress.
Butch gets back to the hotel after the fight.
Doesn't ask if he won or how it went.
She has some thoughts about pot bellies.
She has an IQ of about, I would say, 75.
She's one way with oral pleasure.
No, that's not true.
They're just to negotiate.
He says, well, you kiss it.
One way.
Let's be honest.
One way.
I think you're just,
you're just tipping the scales here now.
Listen, I'm going to finish my case.
This is like late-breaking misogyny from you.
You're like, these horrors in the bathroom with Mia.
All these gumars, you know.
She forgot the watch, which is the one thing he cares about.
She's forgot it.
Well, that's indisputable.
She eats blueberry pancakes and pie for breakfast like she's six years old.
Sounds good.
Forrest Gump or Fabien, who was dumber?
Same year.
I think Forrest Gump has a learning disability, so I think we're going to go with him.
Okay.
Is Fabian pregnant?
I don't think so.
I actually studied the scene and research data.
I think she's just talking popular.
I don't think she's pregnant.
I think they would have mentioned it, too.
I was wondering if that was also like I have.
I feel like you're not with my...
This is the worst part of the movie that I skip.
When I get, when I'm like, I'm burning through it this time, I'm like, okay.
It is undeniable that this is the weakest part of the movie.
And I just said to you before, the second time I watched this thing,
this week, I felt very checked out during this part.
I will make the case that it is not a failure of the writing, but of the actor.
And if you recast this part, and I'll give you three nominees, this is getting ahead of recasting
couch, but it's important of the conversation.
Let's say you want to stay French, Juliet Benoche.
If it's Juliet Benoche performing opposite Bruce Willis, it's a much better scene.
So you're doing the Sophia Coppola Godfather 3, right part, raw actor?
Yes.
Okay.
Let's say you want to go Latin American.
Salma Hic sitting there.
Salma Hic. Contemporaneous isn't going to be in Desperado a year later.
If you put Salma Hike in that part, you're like, well, of course, this guy's, this woman is the most important thing in the world.
It's this guy.
If you want to just say American, I was trying to think of actress who are about 60, which is what the age of the actress who played the part.
Jennifer Beals.
If it was Jennifer Beals in bed waiting for Bruce Willis and Jennifer Beals.
But is she written the same way?
Same way.
Because I think that a lot of that stuff is cute.
I think the like pot-belly stuff is very funny.
It's like very Tarantino.
Tarantino has said that the whole point of that scene is that you're supposed to feel like you're intruding on private moments that you're not supposed to be seeing.
So them doing baby talk and showering together and all that is almost supposed to feel uncomfortable just in a different way than watching Mia get an adrenaline shot.
I just, I also this time around watched this, the first time through watching it this time around was like, does Butch's,
think about
Esmeralda for like five minutes back there
where he's like
maybe I should stay in this cab
like like she's a functioning adult
who's probably attracted to that.
Is he 100% in the Fabian business?
You know?
I think after the watch
This is how fun to come back from.
Yeah.
I told you guys this
but when we watched with my son
when he gets in the cab
I just fast forwarded 20 minutes
to when he was going to the apartment
because I thought I was going to lose my son
potentially who 16 has no.
If you were butch, and she's like, he's like, and you're like, did you get the watch?
And she's like, I think so.
Would you just be like, well, it looks like you have to go back and get the watch now?
Would you have made Fabienne go back?
No, because she's not, she's not getting it.
She would have gotten lost on the way there.
Yeah.
So to you this is a failure of Fabian's intelligence.
No, it's just it's a, it's just the character doesn't work.
And it's fine.
The movie gets by it.
All great things have one piece that doesn't totally work.
And now she lives on on our celebrated podcast.
on the Butch's girlfriend aware.
What's age the worst?
Harvey Weinstein.
All the ways this movie has been ripped off
the past 30 years,
especially in the mid-90s.
The N-word stuff.
More jarring by the year.
There's different uses of it
throughout the film that I think are different.
Yeah.
It's not flying in 2024.
I'll tell you that much.
I think the main one is
Quentin's usage of it,
his Jimmy character,
is the most...
So do you think because that character
was married to a black woman,
he felt like it gave him cover?
Or like, what do you...
I don't know.
I mean, I think that it doesn't really land the way it did back then.
I think also it's really not up to me
to decide whether or not it's offensive or not.
Yeah.
I would just say that the Marcellus use of it against Butch
is clearly used to, like, subjugate Butch
with the Jimmy Jules thing,
they get supposed to illustrate their connection
and their closeness.
But I don't know.
I don't know if you would do it again today.
I don't know.
He's got a complicated history with, I think, the way he sees that.
But I think he thinks he understands that world.
They grew up, you know, in a black community.
And, you know, his mom had black boyfriends,
and he feels more comfortable with it.
And I think also, I do think it is an accurate representation
of his perception of how people really talk.
And that when you see Tim Roth and Amanda Plummer in that first scene,
and Tim Roth uses the word wet back to describe the people working in the back of the diner.
And you're like, oh, God, that's so.
gross. But, you know, would a liquor store robber
use that word while talking to his girlfriend in a diner in 1924?
He probably would have. The same thing goes for
the use of it by Lance, but Lance and the Maynard and Zed guys,
you're kind of like, well, these dudes are sort of shitbags. Yeah, they're hillbillies.
The slow-mo when Butch breaks out of the chair, it was felt like the special
effects weren't awesome on that for what's age the worst.
It's funny. It jumps out to me, too. I don't really have to.
doesn't... Feels very 1994.
It's the only time this really is used in the movie.
Hmm. I have a lot more
about... Do you have any good ones?
I think that they're pretty
lazy about forensics
and DNA in this movie,
with the exception of Bush trying to like
wipe a oozy down with a tissue.
He still leaves the murder weapon there.
Obviously,
Vincent and Jules leave an absolute
bloodbath behind in that apartment.
Right. Like, there's been gunshots in that apartment
for quite some time. At 7 in the morning.
At 7 in the morning.
Yeah, the cops are getting caught.
Sadly, what's age of the worst is diners in Los Angeles?
Yeah.
A dying breed.
Sucks.
Hawthorne Grill was closed even when they made this, right?
That was like, but still, like, there's so many fewer, they're so fewer now.
I mean, you also mentioned earlier, just the robbing diners and taking wallets thing just wouldn't play.
It's a waste of Steve Bouchemmy.
Him as buddy Holly.
It's like you've...
Who was he up for?
So he was going to do Jimmy.
Yeah.
That's part of the Tarantino played, and he didn't have time.
Yeah.
So that was what he did.
He filled in.
They kind of shoehard him in, but it's like, I.
Maybe he was like, I call Sam Jackson, what to his face?
Great.
Can I play Buddy Holly?
What stage is the worst?
Tim Roth is the next great British actor, that whole era?
Disagree.
It's fucking awesome.
No, it's just that was a narrative.
Now it's like, I think we all like Tim Roth, but I don't think he captured it.
He's.
It was Rob Roy the next year, I think.
it was.
Yeah.
It's like Penny Hardaway is the next one.
Between, you know, pumpkin and this and...
It's a good run.
The cop and reservoir.
The dummy of Marvin and the trunk at the end is aged the worst.
I don't know if you guys noticed that.
It's just like a mannequin.
Here's a good one's aged to worst.
The Divine Intervention Bullet scene.
Bullet holes are already on the wall there.
Yeah, that's a nitpick.
Yeah.
But...
You don't think that scene works?
No, it's just the...
Trump assassination now it almost made me think like,
oh, it's kind of like,
starting about divine intervention in Trump.
In this metaphor is Trump,
Jules, or Vincent?
He's jewels.
Okay.
Well, maybe he's going to be the shepherd.
Yeah, that's right.
Maybe.
He'll have his epiphany.
Hold my favorite.
What do you think, Craig?
Will Trump be the shepherd?
We'll hold my breath.
I think so.
Craig,
will I get a camera and wait on that?
Here's one for CR.
Smoking a cigarette while drinking a milkshake.
Just disgusting.
Awful.
I can't think of a worse combo.
I'll go a step further.
Uma doing like a eight ball and then being like burger time, not happening.
She's been doing Coke all night and then she's like, I want a big cheeseburger.
These are great when you come back from the bathroom and your food's there.
It's like you're eight pounds of cocaine.
The pop culture references, some of them have wood's age where it's just from nobody under 40 would know what the hell Arnold from Green Acres is or flock of seagulls.
You mentioned correctamundo.
Correctamundo.
Directive one does another one.
How do you feel about the background special effects when the cab's driving?
I like him.
Yeah?
Yeah, it's like, it's an homage to Forrest movies with rear projection.
And to the point of like what we were talking about, like, I think his tone, and he's talked a lot about this is like 50% realism or naturalism and then 50% movieness.
So certain things will like play out exactly as they would in reality and certain things are like only, this is almost taking place in a dreamy,
movie world.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
All the
Pulp Fiction rip-offs
we mentioned.
Tarantino's acting
we got to talk about.
Okay.
Don't fucking Jimmy me, Jules.
She comes home from work
in about an hour and a half.
The graveyard shift
in the hospital.
I've landed here.
I actually really enjoy
him in it as acting
because we've already
litigated that it's not great
from 30 years ago.
kind of enjoy seeing him now, and I think that
it's funny that he's trying to
hang. Do your thing. I think it's
the partnership is important
in this. Well, that part is really criticized,
but then when the wolf comes,
there are two different sequences between
where he's good. Jim is good. They're
great. There's the Aunt Ginny and Uncle Conrad
linen sequence, and they're talking,
and it's shot in such an interesting way
where it's shot through the doorway. Yeah. And you're
looking at Kytel and
Tarantino's back is to the camera.
And then slowly you get a cut
to them looking at each other where he's like,
you know, your uncle
Marcellus is a millionaire.
Yeah.
You know, Oaks good and all that stuff.
Tarantino, in that scene, is really good,
and Keitel is on fire.
He's just killing it in that moment.
And then there's a later sequence
where they're talking to,
and he's a really good performer.
He just makes this choice
to be, like, angry at Jules
that just, like, tonally doesn't totally clear.
You're right.
It's one stretch of the scene that doesn't work with him.
Yeah.
But he's, I actually like him
and the other stuff.
I like when he calls him a couple dorks.
Yeah.
But yeah.
I know how good my coffee is, Jules.
Do you think, I'll save it for answer to questions.
I have a whole Jimmy section.
The Ruffalo Hannah Rubeneck Partridge Overacting Award.
They knew, and they let it happen.
Don't you call me, lady.
I come in here.
I give these things to you.
Give it all you got.
Give it all you got.
I treated you like a son.
You fucking stab me in the heart.
Fuck you.
Didn't we just throw somebody else in this?
Who's the fifth person we added to this?
Will Patton.
For Scott Pritchard.
David,
you have no idea what man of power can do.
David.
I'll give you Vincent?
Mm-hmm.
A fucking Philpid!
Magic Barker!
I'll give you...
You don't want to fuck my shit up.
You're fucking my shit up right now!
From Tarantino.
I have a winner, but do you guys have any other ones?
I have Amanda Plummer in the last 10 minutes.
In the best way. But she's awesome, but she's fucking, she's incredible.
Yolanda!
She has multiple lines where she's like,
well, just execute him!
Or when she's like, shoot him in the face.
You know, like, all that stuff is incredible.
And Jackson is basically saying what the audience is saying, which is,
tell that bitch to chill.
You're right.
Do that bitch out.
So, all right, so that's a possible winner.
I have the diner manager.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, interesting.
I'm not here.
I'm just a coffee shop.
Listen, everyone, be cool.
Cooperate.
This will I'll be over in a minute.
Even just hearing him
when we're looking at Sam Jackson,
he's like,
don't be a hero,
you'll get us all killed.
Yeah, he's just,
he's like a TV actor.
He sounds like he's in a
Beavis and a Budhead episode
from that year.
He's got a little bit of Scott Van Pelt.
I'm just a dynamite.
Just kidding.
Was there a better title
for this movie?
No way.
No.
The CR thing.
Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford
hottest take award is?
Butch is a piece of shit for letting his corner
guys get tortured by Marcellus.
Oh, good one.
And I think he only redeems himself by
saving Marcellus, but if he hadn't
he was fucking done for.
It's pretty good.
So this is a twist
on what you described about whether or not
Vincent is good at what he does.
But this is just purely, this is the craziest 72
hours for a single character in movie history.
So Vincent Vega gets back in
town after three years and immediately aids in the murder of three men. He survives six gunshots
in an enclosed space. He steals a briefcase full of magical powers. He accidentally shoots a man in the
face in a car at close range. He cleans brain matter from the inside of a car. He survives a diner robbery.
He buys and uses heroin immediately. He takes his boss's wife on a date and discovers they have
incredible sexual chemistry. She overdoses on the drugs in his jacket moments before they are about
to consummate. He revives her miraculously, and the next day he goes looking for a boxer who
skipped town only to leave his machine gun on the boxer's countertop while taking a shit,
and he is then murdered. Well, you don't understand Choco is a madman.
It's pretty good. It's very compelling case.
72 hours? About. A roughly. Yeah. That's pretty good. You got Eddie Murphy in 48 hours?
Well, that is a shorter period of time. Yeah. It's pretty good. My hottest take,
I hate to tell Tarantino what to do
who's incredible creative achievement
but if you dump
eight of the 12 minutes with Butch's girlfriend
and you put those eight
toward an incredible
Wilson versus Coolidge boxing secrets
where Butch beats Wilson to death
But we actually get like Tarantino's version
of an actual boxing fight
Is this a better movie? Because I say it is
Here's the thing
Tarantino not a big sports fan
Right
So that's what kind of intrigues me about
What would his take on a boxing
Or would that have been
Then we would have that be the Butch's girlfriend
Related to this very take
I would like to see it
Like if I said
Guess what
Tarantino filmed the boxing scene with Bruce Willis
And they cut it out
And the tweeted scene on the 30th anniversary
It's about to be revealed
I'd be super excited
And if they were like
And we put in 15 more minutes of Lance
Casting what if
So we have unbelievable, this is fully asked research.
This isn't even half-assed research.
This is the Quentin Tarantino list of who he wants.
Yeah, we had the actual notebook of everybody he wanted.
So the people that he wanted initially that are in the movie,
Keitel is Wolf, Walk in his Coons, Roth is Ringo,
Plummer is Pumpkin.
Fishburn is jewels, we covered.
So it ended up being Sam Jackson.
Eddie Murphy was on the initial list, too, which I thought was a really fun idea.
could have worked.
And the kind of thing Eddie should have done.
I don't know if he was ever asked.
Well, it's like when Will Smith could have been in Django
and he turned it down and that ends up being Jimmy Fox.
Same thing.
I'm not positive Eddie Murphy in the mid-90s
was willing to go there like this.
He was moving into his kids movie era.
That's post-boomerang.
He's kind of distinguished gentleman.
Let me just play a bunch of different characters.
Yeah, it's right.
It's before Nutty Professor.
Yeah, I don't know if he would have done it.
But after Boomerang.
Madsen is Vincent
and he picks
Wyatt Earp
he committed a
white erp over Pope
That was really exciting
And this would be
Vincent would be
Vic Vega's twin
I guess in this
Well that was rumored
after this movie
That they would
At some point
Do the Vega Brothers
They'd
That was buzz about
In like what
2004
That there was gonna be
Vega Brothers movie
And then when they're
Before they sat around
Travolta
Meramax doesn't want
Trbalta
And Weinstein's
Pushing hard
For Daniel DeLuis
Who wanted to meet with him
What are your thoughts, Sean?
So conflicting, because I would not replace Travolta for the world.
No.
But I'm trying to imagine what Daniel Day-Lewis would have done
to get into the mind state of an assassin heroin addict.
I would love one, just one of these for Daniel Day-Lewis.
Because you have the Irish film at the beginning,
and then it's basically like he works every five years
and it's an iconic towering, very historical, usually performance.
Having him play like just one normal hitman,
having a weird day would be awesome.
But I'm happy it's Travolta.
I think he probably tries heroin in real life
to figure out the character's motivations
and he's dead within five years.
So thank God.
Matt Dillon is butch.
But he wanted to fight.
And Matt Dillon was like, give me a day.
And during that day, Bruce Willis was like,
I'd love to be Butch.
And that was it for Matt Dillon.
This could have worked, would have totally reset
the trajectory of Matt Dillon's career.
Matt Dillon is the exact kind of actor
that Tarantino was really good at being like,
there's something special about this guy,
but I've never seen him do something like this before.
Yeah.
He never really got back.
No.
Like he's in, there's some of Mary, wild things.
Yeah, he has a little resurgence.
He has a little moment,
but he never really gets back to the mountaintop.
It's funny that Tarantino,
you mentioned about how he sees something.
And Matt Dillon was a huge star
in the first part of the 80s
and felt like he was,
going to become as big as Cruz.
If you'd said in 83, who's going to be a bigger star,
even after risky business, Cruz
versus Matt Dillon.
It's still like, kind of.
It said Matt Dillon, no question.
So,
he was never in a movie like this.
So there's,
there's the story where it's like,
he basically, it was like,
can I have 24 hours and Tarantino was like,
fuck this.
Then there's also a story where it was that
Matt Dillon was like,
I want to do this,
but I want Butch to fight.
Like, I want us to see Butch fight.
And Tarantino was like,
no, going with somebody else.
initially he had Virginia Madsen as Mia
which is another great call
one of my favorites
and then she ends up having her moment
and sideways a good 10 years after this
but that's him seeing her
in the hot spot and being like there's something
cool with her so Miramax
wanted Meg Ryan or Holly Hunter
and Tarantino fought for Uma he won
Rames as
Marcellus
some weird ones with this right
yeah and it wasn't even positive both to believe but he definitely
wanted Max Julian. He definitely kicked the tires
on and Max Julian's like, guess what? I'm not
going to be raped in a basement. No thanks.
It was also Sid Haig was the other one.
Who he apparently offered it to and he said no.
Which is weird to imagine.
And then Sam Jackson was a backup
because he thought it was going to be fish burn
his jewels and Sam maybe as much
to us. It's really strange to imagine like Bruce Willis
these people are like taking
these roles and you're like, let me think about it.
Yeah. Yeah.
And imagine the movie with all of these different
people. Imagine it's Matt Dillon, Virginia Madsen, Max Julian, and Daniel Day Lewis. That's a weird
ass movie. And Lawrence Fishburn. But we always talk about this with the casting what ifs.
It's fucking incredible how much it's exactly like the NBA draft and the NFL draft. How much
look goes into like, oh, we ended up with this generational quarterback because this fucking
idiot team right before them took somebody else. It's also weird. Like sometimes it's funny how
we look back and we're like Madsen's in reservoir dogs.
We're like, so he must be like one of Tarantino's guys, like a muse almost.
And then Madsen's like, I'm going to make this Kevin Costner movie.
Now I have no idea what went into that.
But it's so funny to see people just like make random choices.
We're like, I think I need to do a comedy or I'm going to be busy until October so I can't shoot.
And instead it's like you've missed out on being in one of the most important movies of the century.
So Lance, he wanted John Cusack initially or maybe Gary Oldman, who he'd already done intro romance.
And then maybe Terrence was.
Tino is a backup, and then Stoltz was a backup to the backup, and then Stoltz gets it.
And then he played Jimmy because Bouchemey couldn't do it.
He was putting himself in the movies somewhere.
I'm not sure where QT.
Yeah, he put himself in Reservoir Dogs and gets the opening monologue.
I mean, worst-case scenario would if he had been Lance, because I think that was a bigger part,
and Stoltz is so good that I don't think him as Lance would have worked in the same way.
He puts himself in a lot of the movies.
You know, he's in deathproof.
Yeah.
He's in the narrator in Hateful Eight.
He still does that.
Irene Jacob was the initial choice for Fabian,
and then it became the lady it became.
Julie Delpy,
and there is a really interesting choice too.
She was also in the list.
And killing Zoe.
You know, if Julie Delpy is Fabian,
I'm more interested.
She communicates an intelligence that Fabian does not currently have.
Julie Delpy, very sharp.
Although you guys recoiled when I brought up Forrest Gump.
Got all whole there and then now.
I have the holiest, the holiest,
Is Fabian Simple is in my notes?
Marvin,
played by Phil Lamar,
who apparently was a comedian.
He was on Mad TV.
Yeah, Mad TV.
He read for both Jules and Brett.
It ended up as Marvin.
And then this is my favorite one.
Courtney Love at some point claimed
Kurt Cobain turned down the part of Lance
and Love would have played
the heavily pierced girlfriend,
played by Roos and Arquette.
And that's when they audibald.
I'm not positive, I believe, that one.
If that's cool.
Quist or think about that.
and Tarantino thanked in the liner notes
of Nirvana's in utero.
Huh.
The Clint Howard Award for the director
loves this guy.
Would you go Uma or would you go Sam?
Sam.
Okay.
I think Tim Roth, too.
Yeah, Tim Roth's a good one.
He recurs in a lot of those movies
and you can tell Quinn.
Tim Roth, Samuel Jackson,
and Christoph Walter, the three guys
where I'm like Tarantino dialogue.
Those guys know how to nail
Tarantino dialogue.
That's why I wish Warkin had done
more movies with Tarantino
because he's so good at the monologues
I would love to see him in scenes.
That's how I feel about
CR and podcasts.
I know you do.
You wish I was on more podcasts?
Best that guy award.
Zed.
Peter Green?
Is he Peter Green or is he Zed?
He might be Peter Green as a 90s.
But you know who's Maynard?
Maynard.
Played by Twain Whitaker, but he's Maynard.
I think Paul Calderon is beyond that guy, right?
Paul Calderon, not of that guy.
I would go Bronna Gallagher, who's the...
Had her down.
Silent friend in the needle.
And she's in the commitments.
Yeah.
Is Julia Sweeney, Julia Sweeney?
Yes.
Yeah.
Is Birstier.
He is not.
Nobody knows who Burstiers is other than...
Unbelievable.
Burr steers is just in this movie.
Falka Seagulls, man.
Yeah, I had Peter Green and Paul Calderon.
The cab driver, and then the diner manager, played by Robert Roof.
Don't be a hero!
Oh, got us all killed.
I think the winner is the
is Jody's friend Trudy.
Bronna Gallagher.
Yeah.
In fact, I gave her a new award
that I didn't tell you guys about.
The Jody's Friend Trudy word
most impactful performance
by someone who did absolutely nothing.
And this goes to Tarantino
that thing I said earlier about how he
every time you go to Friends House to do drugs.
There's another guy over there.
There's some kind of dead.
body there who's just kind of like, eh, and offers nothing.
Do we think Trudy was sleeping in that house?
Because her hanging out by herself smoking a bowl.
I think time is a flat circle in that house.
So I think Trudy came by and who smoked a bowl.
By the way, you can go see that house right now.
It's an Outwater Village.
Chris is not home.
Trying to get CR to buy there forever.
You know, if she just want to pop into the Atwater Village Farmers Market,
you know, take a right down.
I got my eyes on a pawn shop in North Hollywood, actually.
You down with the Jody's Friend Award?
Sure.
Let's add one more.
We just got to keep it eye hat for it.
It's a conditional award.
We don't give it out all the time.
Well, it's time.
The Dion Waiters Award.
I thought this is a no-brainer.
Well, let's go through it.
The nominees are the wolf, the gimp, walking.
Is Tim Rothera eligible?
Technically, but I feel like it's like a lot of the movie.
So Plummer and Him are out.
Roseanne Arquette's in.
Stoltz.
Lans.
Stultz is in, Lance, Maynard,
K, no.
No.
Zed.
No.
And the cab driver.
Those are all of our extended nominees.
This is about whether it's Walkin or Kitell.
I think Stoltz is in the conversation.
I don't know.
Stop bothering me!
I fucking love Lance,
but we're talking about Walkin or Kytel in Pulp Fiction.
I'm talking about Choco.
In Pulp Fiction, this is panda.
So you've disqualified the Gantz.
Qualified the gimp, I'm sorry, Bill.
Yeah.
But I know when he puts his hand on his head
and he starts with the fingers tapping the leather mask?
Peter Green.
So really, because I would say the wolf...
You think the wolf said it too much?
No.
Don't ever do that again.
It would be funny if we came back from a break
and I just had a gimp next to me
and I had my hand on the message.
But we should do it not for Pulp Fiction.
Just in general.
So Waukins just he checks.
old school Deon Waiters just comes in and out.
He's in for four and a half minutes, crushes it leaves.
Wolfson for like 20 solid minutes.
I personally have the wolf.
But I don't think I'm necessarily right.
I'm going to go with Walk-in because I think it's actually adheres to the constitution of this award.
I agree with Chris.
He's like, he comes off the bench.
He scores like 22 points in 25 minutes and he's gone.
I mean, he scores 22 points in like four minutes.
It's like a fucking Flipmery experience.
Comes in his five threes.
He microwaves, yeah.
What do you think, Craig?
And he put the watch up his ass.
100% walking.
Okay, well, I think it's walking.
That's like Reggie Miller, 8.9 seconds.
Yeah.
I think it's walking too.
Man, it's tough to the wolf doesn't win anything.
Must have to create another award for him.
He got best quote, maybe.
Yeah.
Recasting couch director of City.
I like your Salma Hayek idea.
I'm down with that.
Or Julie Delpy.
What about if we set Pulp Fiction in Philadelphia?
And Jules is played by Joel and Bede?
Pulp Fiction in Philadelphia.
Actually, Marvin is played by John.
I kind of like this.
Could you do Pulp Fiction?
Like, could you do Pulp Fiction in your hometown?
Have you ever tried to chart out the places that they would go?
It's pretty interesting thought experiment.
Pulp fiction in Boston, you don't get out of the pawn shop.
You're just raped and left for dead.
There's no mistakes.
It's touching.
It's done and it's a wrap and you're dead.
Okay.
I'll tell you, Long Island's got a lot of diners.
So that part attracts.
A lot of potholes in Philadelphia.
So I think Marvin's head would have gotten blown off for sure.
Which announcer would you have wanted for the director's commentary?
What do you got, CR?
I had Doris Burke.
I see you, Mr. Maynard.
You've been waiting a long time for this opportunity.
And when Zed is done, it'll be your turn to show everyone.
Everyone, what all that time in the gym has been about.
Salute to you, sir.
True Hanlon has been talking about this guy for a long time.
You can see how bad he wants it.
I want to say, I'm extremely sorry to Darsberg.
No, that's perfect.
So, kudos to you, Mr. Zed.
You showed up at the perfect time.
Thank you for your service as an officer of the ball.
And Mike, I don't think people understand how hard it is to sit there with a red ball in your mouth.
Butch is on the bench.
He wants to get out there and compete.
He's a competitor, Mike.
He could have left the pawn shop.
I had Jim Ross, the wrestling announcer.
He's just abandoned Tony and Tim and Chris, yeah.
Well, it's any announcer.
I had Jim Ross for when the gimp is being let out of the same.
suitcase and Jim Ross gone
Good God! That's the Gips
music! My God!
He's coming and enjoyed the sodomy!
Oh, God.
I thought it was... I thought it was...
You thought Roma? I thought it was Romo...
Romo with the needle? And he was like,
he needs a full pen, Jim!
Jim! He needs a marker!
He's got the needle, Jim! He's got to break the breastplate,
Jim! He's got to break the breastplate, Jim. You got to break it.
A stabbing motion, Jim. Jim, you got
one shot. You got one shot to break
breastplate.
Half S.
internet research.
We've mentioned a lot of this
actually.
Oh, God,
he broke the breastplate.
Oh.
And the Gip's music.
It's killing me.
I was thinking,
one of the people
that listens out there
has to do those cuts
where they cut
Jim Ross with the Gimp
getting out of the trunk.
It would just be a great video.
Oh, my God.
My God.
Butch has a katana.
You could also
to do with that wrestling video where Hulk Hogan is
revealed as the third man in a batch of the beach.
You'd be like, who's the third man?
And then the GIF gets out of the truck.
Oh my God!
It's the Gimp.
The Gimp in real life, played by Stephen Hibbert,
a comedy writer who was married to Julius Sweeney
at the time. They're not divorced.
Apparently, there's a story
online where it was like John Lovitz,
S&L John Lovitz, went to go see this.
And when the credits rolled, he was like, I know the Gimp!
Tarantino used part of his natural born killer's money
to buy the Cherry Red Malibu that Vincent drives in Pulp.
And when they crashed it,
they actually had a different car crashed.
So the real car drove by so they didn't have to crash it.
Okay.
Chris mentioned this earlier,
but Tarantino wanted to,
he sent this PA to South Central to buy a giant Afro wig.
And she bought a Jerry Curl wig instead,
thinking he was an assort.
Afro wig.
Brought it back.
Quentin wasn't happy.
They put it on and then it was clearly the right thing.
And Sam said, no, no, NWA is starting to hit.
This is actually like the right wig to have.
And it all worked out.
Man, shouts out PAs.
Yeah.
Hey, go to South Central, buy an Afro for me.
Right.
Okay.
I mean, that's tough, but also you can't fuck up that bad.
You know, you're going to get another, you had one job situation.
The film was shot on 50 ASA film stock, which is the, Tarantino said was the
closest we have to 50s
Technicolor
oh I had the budget wrong for
Jack Rabbit Slims
150,000 for the
That's so funny
I thought I read 15
Maybe it was 150
Manards pawn shop
2933
Roscoe Boulevard
in Canoga Park
still there
Should I check that on?
When we do our trip
with the film crew
To go to different locations
I think we should do our next live show there
Yeah
At the Canoga
Yeah live from Maynard's
There's a bunch of
stuff over by where Sean and I kind of live where it's like in Glendale, like Atwater Village, like a lot of that area. Foster Freeze, that's where Marcellus gets hit by the car. Right. Pulp locations. Diner was in Hawthor and it's gone. Meas's place at Beverly Hills. Jack Rabbits is on Glendale and Flower Street, but it's different now. Monster Joe's Sun Valley. Butch's alley that he jumps out is in Pasadena.
The place where they had the fight with the bill that's gone that got knocked down.
Butch's apartment was in North Hollywood.
Lance's place was in Atwater Village.
And Marcellus sees Butch on the corner of Atwater and Fletcher in Los Angeles.
Yeah.
And then Jimmy and Bonnie's place is in Studio City, and it was scouted by PTA.
PTA was like, I have an inside line on a place for you guys in Studio City to shoot.
Tarantino.
Tarantino had the dance scene
before Travolta was cast
and always points out
it wasn't. We didn't put this in, so
Chavolta good dance. This was in here
and fit the part. Imagine D.D.L.
doing that dance. It would have definitely been
different than anything he did in his career.
Yeah. Imagine D.D.L. drinking the milkshick.
Yeah. I mean, he did it later in his career.
Yeah. One of our great milkshick... I've abandoned
my son!
Jules bad
motherfucker while that Belonda Tarantino
was a reference to the theme
song of Sheff. How many times was word
fuck order uttered in this movie? Do you know the answer?
180.
213.
265.
The undercard of the
Butch fight was Vosser versus
Martinez, which were two of their
video archives co-workers.
That's awesome. Did you bet on that one?
I don't know who won that one.
And then
that Shevow
The Chavelle Malibu convertible
was stolen during the film.
In 2013,
a police officer saw two kids tripping a car,
arrested them, looked up, found the vint had been altered,
and it turned out it was Tarantino's car
all those years later.
Holy shit.
Did you get it back?
The person who owned it had no idea.
It was, yeah, I don't know if he got it back or not.
And then QT had Travolta
speak to a recovering heroin addict
to try to understand what heroin was like.
And the guy said, if you want to get the bottom envelope feeling, get plastered on tequila and lie down in a hot pool, which Travolta then did with Kelly Preston.
They drank tequila and lay in a hot tub.
Try to figure it out.
And then here's one for Sean.
The 1980 Honda Civic, the white car butch drove when he knocked Marcellus down.
Same car, Jackie Brown drove.
Hmm.
Nice.
Yeah.
Jackie Brown, are you fan of that?
Yeah. Me too.
Great movie.
Yeah.
It's on the list.
We couldn't do Jackie Brown without doing this,
even though the feed's going to end up to this five.
I thought this was the last episode.
But if the feed kept going, we would do Jackie Brown.
In the event, yeah.
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All right, Apex Mountain.
Sam Jackson?
I say yes.
Yep.
you could say diehard 3 too
which is the same time
they're shooting
a year later
yeah but they were like
when they were promoting this
they were shooting
dire 3
but he got this
that because of this right
and he's Oscar nominated
cements him as a leading man
Tarantino I say yes
I think he could do
whatever the fuck he wanted
after this movie
he could have
that is true
he could have said
I want to do a sequel
to Untamed Heart
with Marissa Tomei
and this time Slater lives
Trying to think of whether, in some ways...
A random poll.
In some ways, it's like, I think, would you say he's had a couple of...
Because I think there's this.
I think there's Inglorious Bastards is definitely one
because it's like, look what I can do here.
Like, while everybody else has got to make franchise movies,
I can do this.
Yeah.
But once upon a time was the biggest movie he ever made.
Yeah.
I would say it's this, though.
No filmmaker has had in the last 30 years has had...
Well, I guess maybe now Nolan.
Oppenheimer is probably the...
Yeah.
Nolan is definitely...
I mean, his movies have made more money
than PTA, than QTs,
but I don't know if they're, like, as influential.
It's kind of hard to say.
They're both so singular in a way.
I don't know if it's his...
I guess it is his Apex Mountain,
because you're right,
he could have done anything he wanted to,
and he went off and did do a lot of things
that were not making movies
in that three-year window before Jack Brown.
He's hosting Saturn and Live.
He's doing crazy things
that no director.
Yeah, acting acting parts.
Directing ER.
Yeah.
Apex Mountain for Amsterdam?
This is funny.
This came up on Oceans 12, whether this is Amsterdam's greatest movie appearance,
was on Oceans 12.
But now I wonder whether it's...
The story's about Amsterdam.
Yeah.
How about McGuffins?
Yeah, we haven't gotten to this yet.
No.
What do you think, MacGuffin?
I think the Ark of the Covenant is, like, the greatest MacGuffin.
Okay.
Travolta.
You would be able to answer this better than us.
I think it's Saturday Night Fever.
I think that stardom in the 70s,
if you hit with a movie,
it was just bigger and more impactful.
Because there was just less going on.
Same thing for Stallone with Rocky.
Like those, you hit with a movie like that.
And when you're famous,
you're at a whole other level of being famous.
What about diners?
If you consider Jack Rabbit Slim as a diner,
I guess it's more of like a...
Well, you'd have to go with the diner
at the beginning and the Hawthorne.
Yeah, but the presence of diners in this movie.
Oh, just diners in general.
Yeah, probably.
Because there's multiple diners.
What about the movie, Diner?
Eh.
You guys are not that in a diner, I've noticed.
I am.
I really like Diner, but this is a $250 million cultural phenomenon.
Diner's a 1980s movie about going backwards.
Don't you think that it came out a million years ago now?
If you hadn't seen this, you would not have gone to diners as much?
No, I grew up a Long Island.
Going to diners is like a major part of life.
Seriously.
All right.
I believe you.
I'm not, and I'm not bragging about it.
It's sad.
You're the coolest.
No, it's not cool.
It's shot invented diners.
No, it was something that was insisted upon in my life for some reason.
Umah?
Apexmon for Uma.
Probably kill Bill, right?
Yeah, yeah, kill Bill.
Yes, yes.
Milkshakes.
Is it this or there will be blood?
Or just milkshakes being a great beverage dessert.
I want to imagine it's just like in 1957.
You just, you go to the corner candy shop.
I feel milkshakes have had better moments.
I think the anti-lactose lobby has come for milkshakes in a pretty big way.
It's a shame for me.
I really can't.
Milkshakes are the best.
1964 Shabelle Malibu's.
I'm going to say yes.
Sure.
Bruce Willis, no.
No.
Did you say Ving yet?
I haven't gotten there.
It's definitely Ving.
Tarantino three counts?
One.
Two.
Oh, yeah.
It's a Tarantino device.
There's another three count that I really enjoy from, you know, Fastbender and Glorious bastards.
Bing Rames.
Yeah.
Because this gets him Mission Impossible.
It gets him Don King only in America on HBO.
It certainly does.
Mexican standoffs, probably still true romance.
Reservoir dogs.
I mean, reservoir dogs.
Yeah.
The twist?
I think Chubby Checkers, the twist feels like.
Miramax?
Wouldn't that be Shakespeare in love?
I think it's Shakespeare in love.
Souped up, Accurus?
Yes.
Also, bizarre vehicle for the wolf to be driving.
Walking monologues?
Pole Hall junkies.
What about the Thanksgiving one in Annie Hall?
I say yes for walking monologues.
How about modesty blaze?
Yeah.
I do want to say the comfort of strangers monologue
that walking gives in the beginning of the movie.
Unbelievable if people are not familiar with that.
Modesty Blaze, no.
Because I think the movie Modesty Blaze,
the adaptation of the comic strips
starring Monica VT is Apex Mountain for that.
Okay.
Kytel?
No.
What is it?
I mean...
Taxi driver?
Piano?
Well,
ripping off some...
I think this is a big...
Drop in trial and lieutenant.
Yeah, showing the baddest lieutenant.
You know why he drops trial.
It's somewhere in the 90s.
Because of the Mets, the way the Mets are torturing him in that movie.
He's got so much money on the Mets.
74 Chevy Novas, yes.
You're going through every vehicle in this movie.
I'm going to put Apex Mountain.
Jimmy's Coffee, but also just coffee.
Yeah. Coffee, I would say, cinematic coffee, this is up there.
This is probably Apex Mountain.
How about this?
Starbucks is taken off.
This is just maybe the Apex Mountain for coffee.
Apex Mountain of coffee.
Shit's happening with coffee.
coffee. I would say that this is...
Coffee, like in the history of coffee?
30 years of coffee becoming
this a kajillion dollar industry starts
with Jimmy. And I have to say,
we've just gone downhill from there.
Because coffee was best when coffee
was like, it's good coffee, it's okay
coffee. We don't need like all these
different levels of coffee. We're in hot of steak territory.
Diner coffee and then slightly
better than diner coffee is all that
is required. How about UC
Santa Cruz merch? It's
elite. Do you still drink
coffee?
What?
You're always like,
green tea.
Like, do you even hang out?
Like, do you even know me?
I've never seen you order like a couple,
like you've seen me order a cup of black coffee.
Yes.
Many, many times.
I drink a 16 ounce coffee first thing in the morning,
like almost as I'm getting up with a nicotine lozange.
And then I don't drink another coffee that day.
And then you furiously masturbate and then you sit off and start of your day.
I had,
I'm so particular about my coffee.
I had a breakfast the other day.
And I wanted to sleep later, so I decided to have coffee at the breakfast instead of at my house.
Okay.
Did it just throw you off the whole day?
I was prisoner of, they brought this giant coffee.
But I had no idea how much coffee I was drinking because it had those little tiny cup mugs.
And I'm like, okay.
Oh, do you have 18 cups?
Yeah, I'm like, what approximates what I normally?
And it's like, I've never figured this out.
There's no way to figure it out.
I was fucked up the rest of the day.
It doesn't even matter.
if it's, you might only have drank
nine ounces of coffee, but when
you're at a diner and they just keep refilling
it, there comes a time. At some point you're doing
cocaine. It's me with the brown
up your nose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's terrible.
Monster Joe's
truck and toe, I'm going to say yes.
Apparently named after
Joe Dante, director of Gremlins,
who was a filmmaker that Quinn
interviewed in
80s when he was writing a book about directors
and that was somebody who gave him time.
I had wondered if it was Joe from Reservoir Dogs
Oh, maybe there's a connection
I don't know.
His landfill.
Here's a junkyard.
Conversations about pigs.
I can't remember a better one.
Animal farm?
They probably talk about pigs in babe.
Horrified male sodomy scenes in movies?
Would you go here?
Deliverance.
I think deliverance still has it, yeah.
Like a pig is still.
Yeah.
Another conversation about pigs.
The book of Ezekiel.
Well, this is a misquote, though.
But I never even knew there was a book of Ezekiel.
Well, that's, that's on you.
Well, I was raised Quaker, so it wasn't really a number one.
Did you know the Bible existed before this movie?
I did, but it was more of like a literary piece than like a spiritual guide.
Apex Mountain for the Bible.
You're going to say like no diners matter more this way.
Okay.
Cruiser, Hanks.
It's absolutely 1,02% cruise.
And if you suggest Hanks, I don't want to do this.
It's Cruz's Butch.
No, it's Cruz as Vincent.
Cruz is Vincent.
Yes.
No way.
He can't do it.
Yes.
Why don't see it?
And it's Hank's as Maynard.
But Gump.
Yeah.
I don't see Cruz pulling off Vincent.
Disagree.
Yeah, I can totally see it.
I don't see it.
I think he goes over the top cruise.
Is he that far from?
He fucks up the dance scene.
He tries too hard.
He tries to learn the twist.
It seems too choreographed.
He won't understand how to be on heroin.
Like, Cruz is a bad drunk.
Anytime Cruz has had to be a drunk in a movie, it's bad.
Because he's an alien.
But he doesn't always like to drink.
I'm just saying that.
No, I have Cruz as Butch.
Okay.
Cruz as Butch works.
That's a very small boxer.
Well, they have weight classes in boxing.
They do.
It could be like a welterweight.
Not very imposing.
Middleweight.
Is Bruce Willis, like, gigantic?
No, but he has a kind of.
He has a kind of strength.
He has, like, more of a 1950s space, too.
So where do you have Cruz as?
I have Cruz as Vincent.
I agree with him.
Here's the other thing to consider.
I don't see that at all.
Fair points you're making,
Cruz has never been directed by Quentin Tarantino.
What do you have, Craig?
I struggle to see Cruz as Vincent.
I get to see Cruz as Jewels more than Vincent.
Now, that's crazy.
As, as Cruz as Jewel is amazing.
From the producers of Sean Young was not.
That's a tasty burger.
I'd be Hank's more as Vincent.
There's a softness to Vincent.
Hank says Vincent would have been the part that he never played in his career,
but it actually kind of...
He would have had the Da Vinci Code haircut.
Yeah.
I mean, just no.
There's just no way Hank could play Vincent.
You would have said that about Travolta.
There's always...
Look who's talking.
There's always been like a kind of a darkness to Travolta, though.
Like, blowout is such a dark movie.
There's no darkness to Hanks.
you obviously didn't see the Family Ties episode
when Uncle Ned had a drinking problem
So who's winning this? I have to mark this down.
Cruz wins.
Okay.
Whether he's Butch or Vincent.
He should be in the film.
And I feel like he's been on a little bit of a heater recently.
Right?
Is there a tally?
It's tied.
It's 9-9.
9-9.
Racehorse, rock band, or fantasy team name?
I will give you $5 shakes,
the Gimps,
serious gourmet shit,
Big Cahuna burgers,
Hanoid pits of hell
Dead as fucking fried chicken
And holiest of holies
Zed's dead I think is the name of multiple bands
Zed's dead
I also had Tony Rocky Horror
Yeah
And bad motherfucker
Tony
Rocky horror
Tony Rocky horror
Tony Rocky horror wrestler name
That's pretty good
What was the last one you had?
Bad motherfucker is a hardcore band
From Philadelphia
Mad motherfucker
I like holiest of holies the most.
That's good.
I think that's a great band.
It's like, where are you going tonight?
I'm seeing holiest in the holiest.
The Echoplex, yeah.
It's their first, first concert, the new tour.
All right, picking Nits.
You want to start?
All nine are unanswerable questions.
Okay.
How could Vincent and Jules go into an apartment building,
go upstairs, fire a dozen shots,
and walk out with a hostage without the police ever coming?
Let's start there.
This is a time,
there were certain neighborhoods
that the LAPD
was not as interested in
covering.
The guys that they go to
are referred to in the script,
I believe, as yuppies.
And it's a yuppie apartment.
Now, it doesn't look like that
in the movie,
in the movie, maybe.
But yeah, I take your point.
Mia draws a rectangle,
not a square.
Yep.
Butch's opponent,
Wilson,
has his weight in outs
is 210 pounds,
which means
Butch is a heavyweight.
It's Bruce Willis.
He's, like,
5-9.
Butch's apartment.
We assume Butch was pretty successful as a boxer, right?
No, I assume the opposite.
I thought the opposite, too.
Well, he's on the cover of Ring Magazine in his apartment.
They have a cover of it.
So he's good enough to be in the cover of Ring Magazine.
They make 12 a year he made the cover.
Yeah.
And he lives in this, like, nondescript apartment.
Maybe he's bad with money.
North Hollywood.
Yeah.
Honestly, if he knows this guy, Scotty, maybe he's gambling a lot.
Fine.
You dissed that one.
Just feel like...
Maybe you could have, like, a two-bedroom...
condo.
Like, how many fights did he have?
I think you also view things through a very particular lens when it comes to real estate.
No, I'm just saying the guys of real boxers.
The headlining a fight in L.A.
You're very understandably in sports movie consultant mode right now.
I agree with you.
It's cover ring magazine.
He knows Scotty the Bucky already, I think.
So he's like, I'm laying bets.
Tommy Morrison led multiple cards and got cast in Rocky Five.
So Butch was seen like as good as that.
Butch wiping his prints up the machine gun for two seconds and being like,
that seems good.
With a Kleenex and leaving the gun?
Yeah.
Here's a big one for me.
Would Butch be able to breathe with a broken nose and a red ball in his mouth?
Or would he just suffocate to death?
Great question.
That's actually a really good question.
Thank you.
This is the biggest one.
I mean, the two worst ones in this are the bullet holes that you can see behind Trebolton and Sam
Jackson before they actually get shot at, which you don't notice until you've seen the movie
30 times.
So,
Butch goes in
He kills Maynard
Stabs him from behind
The all we see is him
Come in, stab, stab
And then he's like
Hey Zad, you want to reach that gun
Marcellus gets up
He now doesn't have the ball
In his mouth
He's not tied up anymore
And his pants are up
Well, I think they had
They had tied his hands
Like over the thing or something
Is that?
because he wouldn't have had his hands behind his back anymore.
Right, but he...
You're saying that how did he escape?
How did he escape?
We don't have the part where Butch goes over and cuts him loose.
He just immediately is loose.
So if he was able to just stand up like that,
why didn't he fight back against the rapist?
I think that's a great nitpick.
Excellent point.
How did the guy in the bathroom miss every fucking shot?
Like, you know how hard that is?
Oh, the guy with the magnum.
Divine intervention.
Yeah, that's true.
I'm carrying that.
the pot at this point. You guys are just
you guys are you just... Are you being serious?
Jesus Christ.
I'm sorry.
This is a bad one. Honey Bunny does
two different line readings? No, that's on purpose,
I think. I think that's the
surreality of the
experience of watching the movie. The same reason why
the audio carries during the freeze frame
and the opening sequence. It's also that
end part is
more like probably Jules'
version of the events. Yes.
So you're saying the movie that
mistakenly put six bullet holes behind the guys
who hadn't been shot at
then nailed this double line thing.
Maybe that was done on purpose too.
I think it's a movie about upsetting expectations.
The first one is any of you fucking pricks move
and I'll execute every motherfucking last one of you.
The second one is any of you fucking pricks move
and I'll execute every one of you motherfuckers.
Do you think that
I don't think they caught it?
Master orchestrator just made the mistake?
I don't think they caught it.
They also shot all that stuff at the same time.
So it wasn't like they went back
and shot it again.
So it would have been happening
on the day off.
I think it's purposeful.
I think if you asked me,
it's purposeful.
What do you say, Craig?
If they shot it on the same day,
I don't see how it's not purposeful.
Okay.
During that diner,
during the robbery for like 10 minutes,
no new customers,
no cops, nothing.
The diner one stretches belief a little bit.
It's also actually,
while they're doing it,
you're kind of like,
this is why people don't rob restaurants.
There's too many different parts of the restaurant.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you got to get the guys out of the kitchen.
That's why you don't rob restaurants?
That's why people don't.
It's too much crowd control, for sure.
Not enough heroin.
Any more nitpicks?
No, I have all, it's just all answer.
We've got a lot of an answerable question.
Secret pre-girl prestige TV all-bacast untouchable.
Untouchable.
Untouchable.
Okay, but can we just talk out a couple ideas?
Vincent in Europe.
Prequel?
Yeah.
Vincent in Amsterdam?
Yeah.
Vincent Vega goes to Amsterdam?
Yes.
Jules walking the...
At C.R. He's lifting up the pot again.
Jules walking the earth.
Okay
You're fucking bum
You're not walking the earth
You're a big name for people like that
We call them bums
With that residence, legal tender
Vincent
An enemy of the unhoused
Really? Seriously
And then
This is the one I'm most proud of
I was going to save it for Zeyo
But I'm so proud of it
I'm going to put it in this
Antoine
Nakamura
Tony Rocky Harrah
Going forward
gets a job as
defensive coordinator
at Long Beach Polly
and winds up
coaching Merriman
from Den of Thieves.
Oh, wow.
We cross universes.
And it's basically
the defensive coordinator
to bank robber
highway runs through
Tony Rocky Horror
who's this guy
in a wheelchair
who is like
also Vic Fangio.
I'm worried about you.
You don't like that?
I'm in.
Why is Tony Rocky Horror?
Now you have me trying to figure out.
Yeah.
But just like,
What's this connection to football?
I'm making one.
Now you have me trying to figure out how to merge Pulp Fiction and Heat.
Yeah.
Now we're talking.
Oh, do it have to be through the internet guy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just out there.
Just grab it.
Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins,
D. T.M. Jackson, J.T. Walsh, Byron Mayo,
Harley Mays, Evil Laughing, and Ramon, Raymond.
Hudson from aliens.
Philip Baker Hall.
Or no.
God damn Jimmy
I'm talking to super barista
I came here to wash Marvin's brains
out of the backseat of my Nova
instead I got that gourmet
shit
but you better stop saying
the N-word so liberally
are you gonna get canceled
for a long fucking time
big boy
you have to take your headphones on
I always prepare
oh wow
what a question to have Wayne back
I thought we'd move toward Hudson for millions
I thought it would be
maybe Byron wanted to get
down with Jody and Trudy
You know
What are we got going on here ladies
He had a stud for Felicio
Purvis
Tim and Moore
I also
have a stud
You know who loves
Felicia?
He's got two thumbs
He's ready
He's served in the Navy
Just one ask her
Who gets it
Jackson
I wrote QT.
Director or screenplay?
Everything?
I'm going to say director.
I'm a little worried Quentin's going to die
without winning Best Director,
and it would just be a very normal thing.
And you could make the case that,
I mean, we already did make the case
that he should have won Best Director this year.
I'm going actually just two Oscars who gets it,
and I would go Tarantino, director,
and Sam, for supporting actor.
I don't think you can pick one or the other.
Both of them should have won, period.
I agree.
Best Senior Yearbook quote.
You don't really get to give this out too much.
If my answers frighten you, then you should cease asking scary questions.
Oh, yeah.
What a great yearbook quote.
Good job.
I love it.
Put that in there.
I'm trying to be the shepherd would be a good one.
Yeah.
All right.
We separated probably in answerable questions in the two categories.
First, probably in answerable questions about the briefcase.
Was it just, could it have just been a giant gold bar or a bunch of gold bars?
So the argument for that would be that most of the people, I think everybody who
sees it, recognizes it as something very valuable.
So, yes, that is an option.
The counter to that is it does not appear to be that heavy.
And if it was a briefcase full of gold bars that glimmered, it would be a lot of gold
and it would be very, very heavy to carry.
It's also possible there's just light bulbs in the suitcase and that's what to
illuminate whatever is in there and that's what the glow is.
There are so many interesting clues about it.
We can keep doing this.
I mean, it has a 666 combination which suggests something unholy, something evil.
That's where you get the soul narrative in there.
And is that Marcellus's soul?
Like, that's been talked about.
Tarantino has shot that down.
He's been, I think he likes that people argue about this for the last 30 years.
But he did say that Bing Rames had a scar on his neck and they put the bandaid because it was distracting for the shot he wanted.
And that's how he accrued his powers.
He sold his soul to the devil.
Yeah.
Yeah, one of the internet there is, is
Marcelus' soul is pulled out of the back of his head
in the briefcase.
They're acquiring a back.
But if you really think about that,
then why did fucking Brett and burst ears have
Marcel's soul in a briefcase?
It needs to be something that Vincent is like,
oh yeah, we're happy.
And that Ringo is like,
is that what I think it is?
So there's tons of theories out there.
It's like Elvis's gold suit,
the Holy Grail God.
But it would have to be something that would make
somebody happy and also that they would be like, is that what I think it is? I know what that is.
On the other hand, Jules does say it's Marcellus's dirty laundry. So it's like, it has a couple
of different meanings within the film itself. Oh, you're right. He does said that in the diner.
If I had to bet, and I think Tarantino loves this shit and intentionally never made a decision
on what's in there. But what would make sense to me is it's like some sort of crazy giant diamond
with lights on it
to show the reflections
of that it's an actual real diamond
you can see inside it.
Because for like Tim Roth,
for Ringo,
to open the suitcase and be like,
is that what I think it is?
Like it has to be something recognizable.
I don't,
if it was like somebody's soul,
how would he be like,
oh wait,
is that somebody's soul?
Like,
what does that even look like?
The last one that,
my last favorite question about this
is does Jules ever give the case back?
Because the last time Jules is on screen is when he's not got to go piss at the bar.
Right?
So that would be at the end of the chronology.
They bring it in to give to Marcellus.
But then he's like, I got to go piss and takes the case with him.
Oh.
So you think he just bolts?
That's right when he's saying he's going to retire and walk to Earth like Kung Fu.
Obviously, there is a reading that it is not anything,
that it is like a representation of all mcuffins in movies and this movie being a movie about movies.
And, you know, like, it is not actually supposed to be a literally interpreted thing,
but just...
I think that's what it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's his version of a McGuffin,
let the viewer decide.
It'll be fun to hear people argue about it.
I was just trying to...
It's fun to speculate.
That's why we have its own category.
I think what's interesting about this, though,
is that Tarantina doesn't know the internet is coming
when he makes this movie, right?
It's like, he thinks this is something
they're going to be anecdotally talking about a cocktail party
that there's not going to be actual websites devoted to what's in the fucking suitcase.
Yep.
And Reddit threads, like, for the rest of eternity.
It's interesting because it is such an open.
overt mimic of the Kiss Me Deadly briefcase, and then they open that briefcase, and it has, like, you know, it's meant to be, like, plutonium or, you know, like, it's nuclear materials. But that in that movie, it's a metaphor for, like, danger. You know what I mean? Like, once you open it, you can never go back from it. And it could be that in this as well. It could be, like, the representation of, like, the criminal life or, like, being unable to go back. Because the whole movie is like, are you going to heaven or you going to hell?
So the 666, the bandad on the neck, those are the big parts of the case.
And then basically if you think Brett, flak of seagulls, and the guy coming to the bathroom,
all work for the devil.
And then the devil, the devil decides.
I think they stole something they didn't know what they were stealing.
And once they figured it out, they were like, we're going to make a run for it.
So it's just a great MacGuffin, whatever it is.
So then if you have the bullet miracle.
And the concept of you have a deal with somebody until they watch on the deal.
What's actually what happens with Butch.
So there's some sort of like that he's trying to buy a soul back.
But it doesn't explain to me why you had these three goobers in an apartment who somehow had his soul.
It's one of the great noir tropes, though, is somebody who's stealing something and they don't know what it is.
We'll never know.
What doesn't help?
Doesn't serve him.
Kierrez never really said it.
Maybe in his deathbed.
I feel like he has said it's not anything.
I feel like he has acknowledged that.
I think so.
Probably in answerable questions.
How many robberies had Ringo and Honey Bunny committed before the diner?
Some couple liquor store stuff?
A dozen or so?
That's a pretty good run.
They have enough to have a data set that they can talk about when you do this, when you do that, when you do this.
Do you think you and Phoebe could have been like small-scale robbers in a different lifestyle?
Just smoking cigarettes and just take it?
Taking down liquor stores.
I find that she's too short-tempered and I'm too easily distracted.
So I think that would be a bad combination for waving guns to people's faces.
I don't want that for you guys.
Although you're more Clarence in Alabama than Pumpkin and Honey Bunny to me.
Thank you.
I actually kind of like that.
Why was Big Cahuna Burger open at 7 a.m.?
We'll never know.
Let's say it's 24 hours, but why are they eating it then?
Yeah.
I have a bunch.
So what do you have?
Okay, so we can go wherever you want.
I have a whole special for Jimmy, a whole second.
for Jimmy. But my first one is
when Maynard tells Zed that the
spider just caught a couple of flies,
how often do you think they kidnap
people? And
special sub-question, what would
the Mason Dixon Pond Shop's
Yelp reviews in 2024 be like?
Great question. Do you think people are like,
hey, I went in here to get a backup smoke alarm.
Weird vibes.
Gotta say.
Got to say, I kept off for me.
Don't know why these guys have the only basement
in Southern California.
Personally, love Maria McKee, not sure why it's playing.
Weird vibes.
That's really good.
This guy Maynard with size me up.
So there's that.
How much do you think Marcellus offered Butch?
How much did Butch wind up making by betting with Scotty?
Like, what was the split?
I thought he said 300 at one point.
So he said eight books, that's 300.
I thought that was $300,000.
Okay.
They'd probably split with the guy.
So what do you think, Marcelus gave him like $15 grand or something?
Yeah.
Okay.
You want me to do the Jimmy special?
No, save it.
We'll do a couple short ones.
Save Jimmy.
Why did Jules live in Redondo and why did he date a vegetarian?
Well, you know he has a spiritual side.
He's a progressive fellow.
What's the vegetarian side in Redondo in the mid-90s?
Hippie chicks.
Okay.
Why wasn't Jack Rabbit Slims a real place in real life and why can't we go there after we
finished the podcast. How has America failed us? It is really disappointing.
We had the Alamo draft house, but we can't have Jack Rabbit Slims. Would you want
Jack Rabbit Slims exactly as is with like Marilyn and Buddy Holly? Or would you want 70s people in?
70s and 80s people. You put like Charlie's Angels and Captain Steubing like you keep it within
or you put 80s people. Would you like want Reggie Hammond to take your order? That sounds amazing.
Or you get jewels in Vincent Vega. I know. Or you're 90s.
You get like grunge music and you have, you know, Courtney Love is at one table.
I really want to listen to a whole while in meeting a cheeseburger, but yeah.
Now that I've thought about this, I don't think I want that.
All right, so you want Jack Rabbit swims.
Shots out.
What actually happened to Tony Rocky Har?
Why did he get thrown out of a four-star building?
He went on to be to D.C. at Long Beach State.
And he led his team to multiple...
Why did myself throw him out of a week?
who's between the two of them.
I bet he did something else to
Marcellus. That has nothing to do with me. I think she's
right. I wonder if the suitcase
was involved. That's a great question. You fuck
something up. Was Honey Bunny
the only white woman ever named Yolanda?
It's good.
Yolanda!
Yolanda!
Did Butch's watch,
even after all these years, still kind of
smell like shit?
It was in two assholes for
seven years. At some
point odors just don't come up. And neither
and Cruz never says like and I made
sure to take it to an industrial level
cleanser. Like I yeah, it's like
what's the way? He died and give me to
watch. Hide this hunk of
metal up his ass
for five years.
Here's a good one.
Wouldn't Butch beating another boxer to death
and then disappearing become the biggest
sports story of the week?
Yes. Like they're leading sports center at that
right? More on in Los
where a boxer was beaten to death.
Esmeralda is listening to the radio station where it's happening.
I think that's a huge story.
I think Keith and Dan are coming at the 11 o'clock Sports Center.
Welcome to the big show.
More stuff here on Butch Coolidge.
Nothing technical about that, knockout, Dan.
Just beating him to death.
Do you think QT made a mistake not opening a fleet of Big Kahuna Burger restaurants?
This was definitely discussed.
Yes.
The idea of merchandising aggressively.
The world of terrorism.
I'll be completely honest.
At 16, I hadn't started smoking yet,
but I would have smoked red apples if they were around.
But this is part of what kept this movie cool.
Yeah.
Is that that shit didn't happen.
Good point.
We talked about why did anyone make a Fox Force 5 pilot?
I have a couple more good ones, but do you want to do Jimmy?
Sure.
How the fuck did Jimmy and Jules know each other?
They were business associates.
He's just, he's like, he's my homie.
He's just like, I have people in Tulika Lake.
He doesn't have said they're a business partner.
I thought he was like a kind of a small, small-scale gangster.
Okay.
Unclear.
He says my partner, but it's meant in the way of, like, my friend.
Yeah.
What do you think Jimmy does?
Did Jimmy actually go to UC Santa Cruz, or is it just an ironic t-shirt?
I think he did.
I think he did.
Nobody's wearing ironic t-shirts in 1994.
Bonnie is listed in the credits as being at the car crash as well at Marcellus's car crash.
She's listed as pedestrian and Bonnie.
So was Bonnie actually also in another?
part of this movie.
I think they just doubled up on a...
And then there is a big Reddit
theory that Jules is related to Bonnie.
And that that's how he knows Jimmy
and that's why Jimmy feels comfortable using the N-word.
Aha.
Oh.
Like cousins? You think he would have said
that. He would said my
cousin's Vincent. Just saying.
My cousin's husband or whatever.
I had a Jimmy question about
the coffee.
What made his coffee so much
better. Like he was buying the gourmet shit.
Do you think he grinds it himself? Just spending more money at the
coffee's like that grocery store? In 94
do you think he's grinding his own beans?
This is a chemex situation?
Like he had like one of the first chemics?
Like the, no, like one of the first at-home burr grinders where you can make it
fresh that morning. Because they had shitty coffee makers back in the day.
Freeze, freeze, like packed coffee in a bag like that grounds.
Yeah, this is the Folgers Choice era.
Mm-hmm. So was he getting his beans from like
some store that's all?
like Hawaiian coffee and he's grinding the beans and stuff.
Because everyone's like, this coffee is amazing.
By 94 standards.
It's mind-blowing.
It's also the only coffee I've ever seen transcend
like if you're drinking a black,
if you're drinking the cream and sugar.
Like, I don't understand how.
I have some.
Let's hear it.
Why did Vincent Vega go to Amsterdam for three years?
Was it for Marcellus?
Did he do a job for Marcellus?
I had that as well.
Was he kind of shoved out?
Because he receives him so warmly when he comes home.
I actually had it more on he did something for Marcellus,
and then Marcellus set him up in Amsterdam to disappear for a while.
Okay.
That's what I wrote.
Did he kill someone for him?
I would say, definitely.
Almost like Michael Corley-owned style.
That's what I wrote is an homage to the godfather.
Yeah.
Okay.
We did talk about Butchkeying Vince's Malibu.
This is my best one.
Did Maynard finish first with Marcellus and then Zed came in and went next?
Yeah!
Or?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Or...
No, Maynard is true beta.
Did Z have just really good staying power?
Yeah, Maynard was a beta.
Not to be...
Wasn't Maynard masturbating?
Oh, could be.
Was Maynard masturbating?
Was he masturbating?
Was he masturbating, watching it, I believe.
Oh.
Maynard Morval-looker.
Did Zed go a second time around?
Is that what it was?
He complete.
Wow.
And then...
Remember, Butch sneaks in behind Maynard,
and Maynard's kind of like shaking back and forth watching...
There's no indication that the...
I like the stereo out.
The equipment is out.
out. He's definitely masturbating.
Okay. So that's
an even more embarrassing experience.
Creeks Corner really can't off.
Where's the Craig Cam?
Look, I know Maynard, okay?
Just we know that Maynard could get worse.
I've known men like Maynard my whole life.
I got another one.
Yeah.
Has Mia cheated on Marcellus before?
Yeah. And that was...
This goes... I mentioned this earlier, but when Mia's like,
oh, I go to Amsterdam once a year to hang out...
Like, do you?
Or you just kind of like, coked up and...
Yeah.
Maybe that's why he needs...
Mistakes were made.
Vincent to be with hers because otherwise she gets up to no good.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not trying to besmirch her, you know?
Yeah.
You said, like Bill, she's a whore.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't what are you yelling at?
She was just another whore in a bathroom.
I said bimbos.
What kind of party was the wolf attending at 8 in the morning?
I think it's a charity...
biggest night, like a charity casino night.
At 8 in the morning?
Yeah.
Going from the previous night.
By that time, isn't it like 11 a.m. by that point?
No.
I feel like it's a Molly's game type situation.
There's some all-night poker game.
There's people playing cards in the background.
Yeah, there's blackjack going on.
Did Vincent intentionally kill Marvin?
No.
No.
I don't think so.
Are we positive?
No, I think he actually, why would he want to kill Marvin?
Why do you shoot him?
I think because Vincent's not that.
good at what he's doing.
And he's...
I think he was probably the answer.
He's just...
He's just...
He's...
He's a drug addict.
Butch beats Floyd to death.
Did Floyd think he didn't really have to show up for the fight?
Because the fix was in and the fifth round.
Butch's whole thing where he's like, you shouldn't have been a boxer then.
It's not very nice.
Not very supporting.
Yeah.
Morally gray.
And then when do we think exactly this movie was set?
So why do you guys not think it's just like 1990?
I do.
I do.
I think it's 92.
because Butch's fight was Thursday, July 16th, which was a 1992 date.
God damn, Bill.
Yeah.
Good catch.
Did it say that on the card or something?
No, that's just what it said in my Apple Calendar.
No, but...
On the card, yeah.
On the card.
Yeah, okay.
But me, it was dancing to an urge overkill that came out in 94, or that song.
Or maybe 92.
That's what it was.
It's definitely 92.
He heard it.
And that's why I went into the movie.
Wolf's Accura looks 91-92-ish.
In all the references, there's 70s or 80s.
Yeah, probably 92.
Best double-feature choice.
Can I ask an unanswerable?
Yeah.
Is it for sure that you would take a sword over a chainsaw?
Quieter.
Can't sneak up on anybody with a chainsaw.
Yeah.
Also, like, if you get down there and you pull the chain and it doesn't work, then you're
fucked.
It was the right move.
All right.
You've got greater reach with the sword as well.
I'm surprised that the sword was just like, like, sword maker's
sharp still.
Right.
But, you know.
Also, I didn't know you could shoot up heroin and then drive a car.
Is that, I thought heroin, you were kind of knocked out.
That sounds like a good special video for once we wrap here for Ringer movies.
Yeah.
Tell us Chris.
Can you?
Like, right after he shoots up, he's on the highway.
Let's get you lined up with a GoPro.
Shoot up.
Get you on the road.
Get you on the 101.
With Craig in my car.
You feeling it yet?
Best up with feature choice.
Chris mentioned Black Sabbath, Mario Bobbi.
the horror movie.
So you get an anthology movie.
Okay.
Saturday Night Fever.
Or once upon a time in Hollywood.
I feel like these movies are...
That's what I had.
I had once upon a time.
I have bastards because I feel like structurally,
it's got some...
The short story aspect of it is very...
It locks in together.
I liked Once Upon a Time because it's like
beginning of Tarantino's career
and then how many years later?
Yeah.
And it's L.A.
Yeah.
L.A.
The Indian Red Zwanay Award,
what happened the next day?
I have Marcellus gets divorced and goes into therapy
Jules goes to Europe
Mia goes into drug rehab
Fabian loses the watch again and Butch kills her
and then
Ringo dumps Honey Bunny and becomes an acting teacher
in North Hollywood. I have Butch leaves Fabian
in a gas station in West Texas
on the way to Knoxville.
Is Butch disappointed when he gets back to the hotel room
that she hasn't been gunned down
in the hotel room because the bad guy's
he was there.
Yeah.
What do you have?
Would have Vincent survived?
He didn't.
Yeah, he didn't.
What if he survived?
Didn't.
And then what?
Does he ask himself that question?
Does he track down Butch?
And take him out.
They could have had it where he was kind of down, but you couldn't tell if he was dead
or not.
I think it's great that he's dead.
It's such a perfect, yeah.
Well, this is the longest version of this category I've ever had.
What piece of memorabilia would you want from this?
movie. I'll give you the Mia painting, Zed's motorcycle, the watch, the twist content trophy,
contest trophy, the big fake hypodermic needle, the samurai sword, the wallet for the Coolidge
versus Wilson poster. He could frame.
We have a couple more. Yeah. Zed's keychain. Oh, good one.
Pack of red apples. Yeah, but it would be hard to tell.
what was the actual pack.
It's true.
Lance's robe.
Yeah.
Lance's robe.
Sierra would wear that.
I would do Lance's
little black book
that they can't find.
They find it?
And probably,
gosh,
the modesty blaze.
It gets...
Oh, the actual modesty blaze?
That's a good one.
What do you choose?
I think the watch is the best thing to have.
I got a watch.
That watch was up a guy's ass.
But not really.
Well, we don't know.
The watch they use for the scene.
The Twist Contest Trophy is a fun one.
I'm just trying to think what would be fun to display.
Samurai sort would be good.
All that stuff's good.
But I would say the watch probably is the most value.
Yeah.
If it was in one of those auction sites, I feel like that would do the best.
Yeah.
What do you think, Craig?
Watch your briefcase.
Oh, briefcase.
Oh, yeah.
The briefcase.
Oh, the briefcase is the answer.
That's great.
Jesus.
But then Craig.
And you're like, what's that briefcase?
Look at the big briefcase.
On Craig!
Coach Finstock wore a best life lesson.
Respect for one's elders shows character.
I wrote don't snort heroin.
Why not?
It's a memorable night, you know?
Sure.
She'll never forget it.
What was that thing Kytel said about
just because you're a character?
Doesn't mean you have character?
That's a good life lesson.
That's from color of money.
Doesn't he say that in color of money?
Yeah.
Who won the movie?
Quentin
Quentin
It's amazing
Sam Jackson didn't win the movie
But it's definitely Tarantino
He's the runner-up
It's a film by Quentin Tarantino
Yeah
It's that the title card
Right as the movie ends
When they walk out of the
Diner
And then it goes written and directed
by Quentin Tarantino
is a T-shirt
That's like a T-shirt
that people wear to this day
In that font
Craig
Did you like Pulp Fiction
Can you imagine
Craig what do you think of
What did you think of Pulp Fiction
Sam Jackson
Had you seen this one?
Overward
Yeah, I've seen this probably a dozen times.
This movie, I truly think, is better the second time.
It does get better every single time because the first time watching this movie,
you're, like, you're so fixated on figuring out the timeline.
What day is it?
Why is Travolta alive now?
What's going to happen next?
But when you can just kind of sit back and enjoy, because you kind of understand the timeline
aspect, it's so much better.
Travolta really stood out to me this time around.
I think I'm realizing that I love when movie stars play non-movie star roles.
Because, like, I loved Stallone and Copland that really stood out to me.
And watching, I like when movie stars are at that inflection point in their career and they have to kind of take a risk.
Yeah.
Because they're no longer at that, on that movie star pedestal.
So, yeah, I thought the Travolta stuff, very similar to the Stallone and Copland, I really loved it.
And then QT, I feel like, is, I mean, he's every film major's favorite director.
and what's awesome about him is like it never felt like he caved.
Like he has always felt so original and authentic.
Yeah.
He's, I mean, he's like, okay, he's so famous, but he's okay just disappearing for four or five years and then coming back, almost like a Daniel DeLuis.
And yeah, I don't know.
It's like as much as you can put any other directors movies up against him, there's something about like his willingness to be okay, stepping back, never selling out, never taking a huge commercial project, a project.
even if these movies are commercial
once upon a time in Hollywood's like Leo and Brad Pitt
and it costs $200 million. But it still
feels like it's like
authentic and indie and original.
Homemade. Yes.
Everything feels very like, yeah.
He created his own universe. Very designed.
Yeah. Yeah.
That was producer Craig Horbeck.
Pulp Fiction, we did it.
How long was that?
Uh, man.
Over four, 415, 420.
So record for us?
We have to just discuss,
like this is the most long-threatened
but never executed episode
on the history of the show.
Yeah.
You've said this would be the end of the show
if we ever did this movie.
Right.
So we've done it.
I did say that, didn't I?
We've done it.
Yeah.
But you've also...
The feed is continuing.
Do we have to say that?
We're going to put up a pod the week after.
I don't know.
I'll see how I feel tonight.
Okay.
That's good.
You've got to keep us in the dark.
Can I ask one more?
I'm doing the LeBron.
I'm just starting to be like,
yeah, I don't know.
Zero Bill 30 could be it.
Can I ask one more thing?
Yeah.
My friend and I were trying to figure out,
because I was talking about how we were going to do this movie,
and we were like, where does this movie rank
in the, oh my God, you haven't seen that movie category?
And then we started to talk about non-franchise movies,
standalone movies, movies that have never had a sequel
or are not a part of a franchise.
Is this the number one most culturally defining movie
that never had a sequel or became a franchise?
The only other thing I could think of was Titanic,
or maybe ET.
where do you guys think?
In the history of movies?
Like in the modern, I would say, you know, 70s on.
But like, we're talking about where nowadays, if you said you haven't seen that movie,
I think Titanic and Pulper are bigger than Casablanca now.
I think that's true because people got old and died.
If you go to a...
I mean, way more people have seen Gone with the Wind than have seen Pulp Fiction.
But way more.
I mean, so many more people saw movies.
I'm saying about people alive right now.
Oh, alive right now.
If you went up to somebody and they said, I haven't seen this movie...
No, but under 40 is seen gone.
with the wind, except
like very few, like, super duper film nerds.
Right.
So just stand-alone movies and no sequel, no franchise.
What is the biggest?
You haven't seen that movie right now?
See, I can never tell anymore because sometimes they get into weird gap years
where you're just like, oh, yeah, like, you know,
there's a lot of fucking stuff to watch now.
So I wouldn't be shocked if somebody was also like,
this isn't really my vibe.
But for me, it's still silent rage with Chuck Norris.
Yeah.
How could they not have added that story?
I still get upset with people
haven't seen it.
I think Craig's right.
The Tony Rocky Horror DC
and what big following might still be coming.
I think it's Titanic or this.
Yeah, I guess if you're approaching it,
I like where Craig's going with this
from the standpoint of
you can't believe
somebody hasn't seen a movie.
Because of how culturally defining it was and is,
but has had no follow-ups.
Did Ben know what this movie was at all?
Yeah, he totally knew it was.
He just hadn't seen it.
I mean, even in this year, Forrest Gump and Shawshank are like two of the most seen movies of the last three decades.
Gump is a good one.
And they're both original.
Because Titanic's timeless.
Yeah.
It'd just be weird if somebody hadn't seen it.
You would never be able to recapture anything about that.
It's a really fun exercise to think about another version of a thing I wish I had some time to think about.
Yeah.
E.T was the only one that I was like, well, ET's kind of surprised they never did.
But that's something that a lot of young people these days maybe haven't seen.
Because it's 40 plus years old now.
And because it doesn't have sequels and they're not like,
oh, I guess I have to watch all the ET movies or something.
This is a new one coming out.
Yeah.
Good exercise.
This podcast was produced by Craig Coralbeck.
Thanks to Jack and Gahow as well.
We did it, guys.
Good to see you.
We did it.
Thanks, Bill.
Thanks, Bill.
