The Rewatchables - ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey

Episode Date: June 8, 2021

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey narrowly escape from a Peruvian temple to rewatch the 1981 classic ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark,’ starring Harrison Ford, Karen Allen, and Paul Freeman, and directed by Steven Spielberg. Hosts: Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And the new age of adventure. From the jungles of Peru to the streets of Cairo. From the greed of the fairies to the wrath of God. Raiders of the Lost Ark. Wait a B.J. Opens June 12th at a theater near you. Check local newspapers. All right, here we go. Sean Fennesse's here. Chris Ryan is here.

We're doing this in person because this movie demands it 40th anniversary of one of the greatest movies of all time. Raiders of the Lost Ark. You guys might have heard of it. It ended up on a lot of lists when people do those lists of the 500 best movies ever, the 100 best movies of the last 50 years,

whatever, it's always on the list. I think for me, this is kind of the breaking point from old movies and new movies. That's how I look at it. I don't know if I look at that because I was 12 or 11 when I saw this in 1981, and this is when I kind of understood what made movies. We talked about how Jaws was the first great modern movie.

But I feel like this is the bridge to where everything's going. Because you think about 1982, that's when all of a sudden first blood shows up in 48 hours and E.T. Movies that start to feel like modern movies. Do you think this was the bridge, Sean Fentany? I do. I think that's a good point that you made. I think Jaws is the first true blockbuster, and Indiana Jones perfects the blockbuster. This is the movie that figures out what you need to do to captivate audiences is nonstop. Go, go, go, go. Set piece to set piece to set piece. Hold your audiences attention at every turn. And if you can do it, as well as Steven Spielberg, you make an iconic movie. This is like one of the only movies that has withstood 40 consecutive years of other movies and can stand on its shoulders. Every 10 minutes, there's something happens. I mean, that was the plan.

That was what they imagined because they were going to base it off of these serials that they grew up watching, these quick, these short films that they grew up watching. And when you watch a Fast Furious movie now, that's the same thing. It's like something happens every 10 minutes. This is like...

It's the blueprint. It's the blueprint for every action movie that came after it. And they used it with this very nostalgic way of like kind of paying homage to what came before them. But like their idea, to never let the audience catch their breath, it kind of changed mainstream movie making forever. Pauline Kael didn't like it.

We'll get to her later. This is a movie that has been in my life basically since I've had a memory, and I've kind of forgotten some of the basic pieces. And I just wrote down, Spielberg, Lucas, Kasden, Marshall, Williams, Kaufman. These are like six iconic guys who are all involved in their fascinating points of their career.

Lawrence Kasden writes the script. Spielberg is cold It's coming off 1941 which I will tell you It was a very disappointing movie experience For a young Billy Simmons Fired it up this week Just to see like where he was that at that time

Couldn't get through it It's really rough And it's like Balushi as like kind of Crazed pilot Bluto And probably had a ton of cocaine It's just not a good movie Wasn't in movie jail But like that was over budget

That was like off schedule Like it didn't you know Like even even though you think you make jaws You get a couple of ones for you, but he was in close encounters, back-to-back years, but 1941, it's like, this kid's lost it. And Lucas,

who I don't know if you guys have heard of George Lucas, but he created the Star Wars franchise. American graffiti, a couple other things. Holy shit. He had some success early in his career. Yeah. And he's basically fighting for Spielberg and these two collaborate, and it becomes, I don't know, would you say it's the most

important producer-director partnership we've ever had? That's a pretty bold one. I'd probably have to think about that a little while. I think it's the most significant these two guys who are close friends really wanted to work together, and they got a chance. Like, they understood each other. And it worked out.

You know, it didn't blow up in their face. Like, these two guys love each other, and they relate on a lot of levels, and they're from the same generation, and they're interested in the same stuff. But they complement each other. You know, Lucas is not a great film director. He's a great conceiver of big ideas for movies. And there's a reason he doesn't direct the second and third Star Wars movies. And you can see in the trilogy that comes in the 2000s that he's not a great filmmaker, but his concepts and his conception of how to make a big movie fits perfectly with Spielberg,

who's like the ultimate technician, the ultimate storyteller. And a sap. And he like infuses this movie with so much romance and so much sentimentality in different places. And also like maybe a connection because this is a Jewish filmmaker, making a movie about the Nazis being the ultimate force of evil that I don't know that Lucas necessarily would have been in touch with had he directed it. Right. I was thinking about the Nazi part in 1981.

And this is set in 1936, which is 45 years. That's actually not that long of a time. If you made a movie that was 45 years ago right now in 2021, that would take you to 1976 when Jaws came out. Not that long ago. No. Did I do that right? I can barely add.

My age. Yeah. And I like, like, 19706 was on Rocky and Jaws. Like, it's not that far away from now. And it's, I think now that World War II and all of that stuff really seems far away, right? Just wasn't that far away. And the Nazis are the greatest villains you could ever have in a movie. I mean, we talked about what, Lethal Weapon 2, the evil South Africa, the Aryan South African.

Yeah, but they're still the silver medalists. Yeah. They just can never top the Nazis. and then the most satisfying conclusion, probably in any movie ever, of basically all of them get in their faces melted by the art. You can't come up with a better end of that.

The thing that's cool is like you're saying with this group of people working on it. And one of the reasons why I think this movie has kind of remained in our lives is there's so much stuff about the movie. Like these guys actually acknowledged. Like we did something pretty special. Like, you know, maybe we'd meant to,

maybe we didn't. Maybe we thought it would work. Maybe it wouldn't. But, you know, you can still read the transcripts from the story sessions that Lucas and Spielberg had when they were like conceiving of this movie and you can see it all there. You know what I mean?

Like they're like, let's do a little bit from Seven Samurai, but let's do a little bit from like, was it Don Winslow and the Navy is one of the serials that they were based it on and a little bit of Errol Flynn and a little bit of this. And then they're kind of arguing back and forth.

Like he should be this, he should be that. He shouldn't be this. There's a tough moment with that whole thing about the making Mary and Karen Allen's character. was to say she was 15 and he was 25 when they got together and it's like... I think it started at 11, that she was 11 when he first met her and started fraternizing with her. And so, like, this stuff had to evolve, too.

That's the other thing is that Lucas's ideas, anytime you read about where he starts with an idea, he needs a collaborator. Like, Schubert clearly pulled him off the ledge on a couple of things. And that's a huge thing. And also Philip Kaufman helped come up with the idea. And as you said, Kasten ended up writing the screenplay. you have this convergence of five or six people who really were like at the top of their game in the late 70s, early 80s, working together

to get to this point. If it was just Lucas, this would not be a movie we'd be talking about on the show, I don't think. And you talk about the page turning thing is like these guys kind of made this movie quasi independently, you know? I mean, like, in the sense that they were like, this is what we're going to do,

this is who's going to do what do you want to buy this? You know, and that changed things too. Let's talk, Lucas. So for the kids, listening at home, he came up with the idea of this in the early 70s. He wanted to do the serial films earlier 20th century, Book Rogers, Zorro's Fighting Legion, Spy Smashers.

I didn't even know what those movies were. Craig, have you ever heard of any of those movies? No. Yeah. So can I very briefly just explain what it was? Yeah. There's no television in the 1930s and 40s. People would go to movie theaters

and they would pay to watch these 30-minute or hour-long reels, and they were episodes of TV effectively. So you would have to return, week after week to see the new episode. So, CR's crush and mayor of East Town recently, he's able to do it from the comfort of his own home because of the modern wonders of technology.

We're talking to Kate Winslet out there. Jesus. But back then, if you wanted to check out the latest adventures of Zorro, you had to go to the movie theater. And so it created this kind of viewing habit. It kind of invented television and movies simultaneously. Bingebowed Buck Rogers? Totally.

You had a little bit, just now, just you had a little bit of you think you're better than me about Kate Winslet. You looked at me. And you think you better than me talking to Kate Lindsay? Yeah, twice. He could have fucking shared her. So he called it Indiana Smith. He was doing American graffiti, which hit.

I unfortunately saw the sequel in the theater with my dad, and it was rough. That's not a good movie. More American graffiti? More American graffiti was not good. But he decided he's going to do a movie called Star Wars after he tried to get Flash Gordon, couldn't get it, and was like, I'll create my own space opera serial. So that happens. He's talking to Philip Kaufman.

Give the quick Philip Coffin background. Just like an important and interesting filmmaker from the 1970s. I think it's probably his best movie. I guess the two best movies are The Right Stuff and The Invasion of the Body Snatchers remake, but just like a sophisticated genre-hopping storyteller who made some good flicks. And a pretty fascinating character in Adventures in the Screen Trade,

the Goldman book, when Goldman writes about his issues with writing right stuff and working with Coffin. Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Anytime you guys are ready for the rewatch. Southern ones. Yeah. A lot of good Nemoy in that one too. That's just a good movie.

Good San Francisco movie too. So Kaufman, initially they're like this Indiana Smith. He's going to be like a womanizer, Playboy guy. And he's like, no, no, no.

Just put him on a quest. Give him this Ark of the Covenant. Ark of the Covenant. You got it. Yeah. Yeah, I had it the first time. And that'll be the quest. Drop all this other stuff.

Just make this like, he's got to find this arc. So they go. Lucas sees Spielberg in 78 they start doing the thing they're like two buddies they get Larry Kasden hey help us write this stuff

nobody knows who the fuck he is Spielberg's telling Casden do this thing don't do the American graffiti sequel it's going to suck because he's trying to get him for that that doesn't happen and they ends up writing this script give him the Lawrence Kasden background

a screenwriter who is widely considered the voice of Han Solo, somebody who wrote the screenplay for the Empire Strikes Back and went on to make a number of other great movies, including one of your favorites, Body Heat. Somebody who has a lot of Ad... Wait, he made it more

more of my favorite than Body Heat. Big Chill. Big Chill. Of course. Person who is considered... He directed the Big Chill. He's like a generational interpreter. He does stuff in other kinds of movies. What's his West... Is Silverado his western? He does something very similar to Indiana Jones, which is he looks back

into the past and the way that filmmakers were making movies in the 40s and 50s and does his own version of them. But he has a real affinity for snappy dialogue, especially snappy dialogue and absurd sequences. So he's kind of a perfect fit for writing a story like this. I ended up at a dinner with him once and completely nerded out. Did you? He loved it. Yeah.

He loved it. But I was just like, I just couldn't get enough of just telling him how great he was and going through his movies and trying to get stories and like he's a fucking legend. So we basically have Lucas, one of the great visionaries of the last 75 years. We have Spielberg, who's widely considered to be, I think, one of the five best directors the last 100 years. And then Kazden, who's one of the best screenwriters the last 50 years. They all get together.

And it's like, hey, what else can we do? We'll get John Williams to do the music. And Frank Marshall's going to be a producer. And he ends up becoming one of the best most successful producers of the last 40 years. So this is like the fucking dream team. They don't know this in 1981. retroactively, we know this, but at the time, we didn't totally know this. There's more if you want to keep piling on.

Like, Michael Kahn is the editor of this movie. This is the guy who would go on to become Spielberg's longtime editor to this day. He has cut some of his best movies, including, like, watch Saving Private Ryan, if you want to see a master class and had to edit a movie. Also, Douglas Slocum shot this movie who shot movies in England for Ealing Studios and made movies like Kind Hearts and Coronets and is considered one of the greatest kind of stages of sequences with directors. And so, like, you have all of these people coming together all at the same time to make something so magical.

So I think Lucas has to get a shitload of credit for that. He was a very good talent assembly. Totally. Which I think gets lost in the whole. And think about how iconic those, you know, this movie, graffiti and Star Wars are. Yeah. And think about how many no names he was working with. Like, think about how many people wind up coming through those three movies and being part of our lives for 50 years that no, you know, like,

we're basically out of nowhere, Ford included. I mean, very high batting average. Mark Hamill, probably the biggest whiff. I mean, is that on Lucas, though? Yeah, he's like a C-minus. He's trying to get the Star Wars people. Tough beat for Hamill here. We're in celebration.

There was a hundred better actors, but Lucas was awesome. Spielberg. So he goes dual and Sugar Land Express becomes the hot young director, leads to Jaws, which we cover in the rewatchables, which is still an amazing achievement. And at that point, he's the number, he's the LeBron of directors. Close encounters, massive hit.

You want to do any Richard Reefest-Lanzer or no? I loved working. 1941, ice cold. And then rips off Raiders, E.T. and Indiana Jones, too, reviled, but made a ton of money all in the spans of four years. Yeah. And we're off with Spielberg. Then he gets into the weird colored purple phase and goes through all these different phases

that we go with him. But turns out he had a pretty good career ultimately, is my take. Yeah, his 80s are really interesting because he made seven movies and he participated in a bunch of stuff. You know, there's the rumors that he co-directed Poultergeist, which have been somewhat debunked. He participates in the Twilight Zone, the movie movie. Goonies. Goonies. He's second unit director, but obviously helped out a lot there.

But he makes seven films that are his films. And three of those movies are Indiana Jones movies. That's how much he caught into this franchise. And that's how big a hit it was that a guy who basically could write, you know, his own check for any movie, wanted to do indie movies. He said, here's a quote from him. On 1941, I became a bit like Colonel Kurtz. After my big successes, the studio was too afraid to dispatch,

Martin Sheen to terminate my command with extreme prejudice. Now I just wanted to make a movie where people would say he's a responsible director who came in under budget, under schedule. That feels like an emailed answer, not something that somebody would say with their mouth. But that's what the point he was at. It is weird. We were in this time back then,

if you made a bad movie, your career completely fell apart. And, you know, like in sports or something, if you lose in round one or round two one year, nobody's like, it's over for this guy. But in the 70s and 80s, you could just have one bad one, and it was a fucking tailspin.

That's a really interesting kind of email response. Very similar to the email I got from Chris this morning after he knocked out Winslet Part 2. It's like, I'm just trying to do steady podcasts on my terms. I'm just trying to come in under budget. Harrison Ford, another key piece of this.

I think you guys have heard of him. He rips off. Star Wars, Apocalypse now, Empire Strikes Back, Raiders, Blade Runner, and Return of the Jedi in a seven-year span, which I think might be the best seven years anyone's ever had just from a commercial standpoint. But like the 20 years,

like a 20-year run from 73 to 93, that is like, do you want to go through it? Did you want to expand it to the people? You want to go all the way of the fugitive? Graffiti Conversation, Star Wars, Apocalypse Now, Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of Lost Dark, Blade Runner, Return of the Jedi, Temple of Doom, Witness, Mosquito Coast, frantic working girl, presumed innocent Patriot Games fugitive. The fuck out of here. Are you kidding me?

How many rewatchables are in there? How many movies that we just straight up a door are in there? How many great directors? And in 93, he's like, I can't hold off Tom Hanks anymore. He's right on my back. I just can't. I'm too old. And Tom Hanks is like, I'll take this old man. Bob Baffert's like Tom Hanks, I bet right. It did flip pretty quickly when it flipped, but he had the belt forever. I mean, he was, he was the signature star for 20 years in American movies.

And isn't he like the quintessential guys want to be him, girls want to be with him? Like, there's just like so much mass appeal. No like weird. I mean, like the plane stuff later in life became strange. But like there was never like the weird crew stuff. Like it's just Harrison Ford is just fucking. cool. Like, that's just it. His persona, though, is

really interesting and a little bit unexamined. Because he's pretty freaking grouchy in this movie. And grouchy in kind of every movie. Every story about any movie he's in, he just seems prickly. Yeah. Even Karen Allen and the research for this one is like, you know, I really want to talk about the characters and Harrison

is just like, no, I'm good. I'd rather not. I'm going to go back to my trailer and get dysentery again. Thanks anyway. You can feel that in the movies, and it's in a way that is magically not unlikable. You know, like, he still emits this, like,

this charisma, this thing you want to be close to, even though it's like, you can kind of tell he's a prick, or at least is evincing that feeling. And yet, maybe that's like, maybe that's what America wanted in the 1980s. Maybe they wanted somebody who was just a little bit, a little bit tough on you. I think the best and worst thing about him as an actor

is he could have the exact same chemistry to the T with Chewbacca, Karen Allen, Tommy Lee Jones they just put anyone in front of them and he's going to play off them exactly the same To your point we were coming out of a decade

where people were like you know who's a movie star Peter Falk Walter Mathout now that guy gets me in the theater It's true he kind of he does kind of split the atom there

where he's not this absolute beautiful perfect Carrie Grant type but he's not Walter Mathout he's got this big cut on his face he's clearly got a gimpy wing because he hurt himself in the 70s he's always a little little grizzled, and yet he is still

Mat-Nay Idol handsome. So he's kind of the perfect fusion of 50s and 70s. And also like just randomly you'll see like, I saw before I even think I knew that we were doing this this week, you just see on Twitter every once in a while some it would be like a picture of him from Raiders and is like that's the hottest person that ever lived.

Yeah. It was like a more interesting version of what Clooney tried to get done and couldn't get done. Yeah. Different time. Harder to pull it off. One guy's a leather jacket guy, the other guy's I was never a huge Star Wars guy. And I only saw the movies, I don't know, once or twice. But Han Solo was the guy that always jumped out of me.

And it was always like he was the best part. So to go through Raiders with him and then eventually the latter part of his career. But when I was in high school, one of my best friends, Jim Grady was a big Star Wars guy and loved this movie. And like Harrison was his guy. And he just loved Harrison Ford. And he's like, whatever. And I remember when the fugitive trailer came out, he was so excited. It was like, I don't know if anybody has guys like that anymore.

Like, nobody's like, I'm a fucking Chris Evans guy, man. Whatever. CR is. You would know it. Chris Evans guy. I'm here. That's right. Like, there's no.

Sean's like that for Bradley Cooper. There's no star like that. Hank's probably the closest, but even Hank's, I don't feel like could have done the action piece of this and was very smart to avoid stuff like that. Well, I think part of that is because a lot of big stars get caught up in franchises. and that's really what they do. So, like, we didn't, like, 08 to, you know, to 2018 or whatever it was. Like, Downey pretty much did, like, Avengers movies, you know, like, a lot of these...

But to be fair, Harrison made six movies in two worlds, right? Sure. And he signed up for Raiders. And he also, like, he listened to the movies. Right, true. He was able to do that. There are a couple of groundbreaking genre movies, Oscar-worthy, you know, rom-coms. You know, like, think about all the other stuff he was doing in the 20-year run.

I think there are a lot of reasons for it, though. Accessibility is one of them. Harrison Ford was. in his late 30s by the time he got famous and was married to a woman who was a screenwriter and lived a private life. He was not on social media. He was not trying to sell. He's stoned. He was probably getting high a lot, hanging out, doing carpentry, stuff he liked to do. This guy loves the Almond Brothers. You know what I mean? Let me ask you something. So you mentioned Star Wars. I'm curious, like, do you remember seeing this movie? Like, do you remember? Raiders?

Yeah, like, I want to hear like you go see this movie and you're like, my life has changed. fucking movie is... Dad, I'm a man now? So, you know, it was interesting in the research. It rekindled, you know, these ancient memories you have, you hadn't thought of in a while. And Superman 2 and Raiders

come out in the same summer, and Superman 2 just had more hype. And Raiders was the movie that had Han Solo in it. But everyone was more fired up for Superman 2, including myself. Superman 2 was like a really important movie, and it was like, he's going to have multiple villains

he has to go against. He's going to lose his powers. Like, we knew enough about that. I don't think anyone saw the Raiders thing coming. But I remember I saw Raiders with my dad. And you knew it was going to be good because the critics really loved it. And it was just like, this is going to be awesome. Ultimate Summer movie, obviously. You must have seen it like four times.

It was so fucking satisfying. I definitely saw it at least three times. Yeah. Because this was the era. And I was going to talk about this later. We might as well talk about this now. Like, this was in the theaters for over a year. Yeah.

And they had this issue. And there's a lot of stuff about 80 and 81. And 80 wasn't great for box office. And there's a lot of stuff from back then about what's happening with movies. Movies were just getting weird. I personally think cocaine played a huge part in that. I think the cocaine stuff from 78 on was really starting to make everything weird. And you have just a lot of weird movies like modern problems, like that Chevy Chase movie.

A lot of those type of movies where you're just like, what happened? Were these people on drugs? Yeah, it turns out they were. Yeah. Yeah, right. So Superman, too, and Raiders kind of revived this. Don Simpson came through and cleaned everything up. Yeah, Don Simpson's like, I got this.

But those two movies, people would just go to the theater, and if those two were sold out, then you saw something else. And that's the way it was the entire summer. We talked about that. I want to say it was the first Godfather pod that we did. Just the amount of the totality of people that saw the movie. And the length of time it played in theaters. We talked about it back to the future as well.

We were like in 85. This movie opened it this time, and it opened in the summer, then they basically re-ran it in October, and it was number two at the box office six months later. Yeah, and we dwelled on stuff more back then for better or for worse. I mean, like, that you always think about that. I always remember, like, being a really little kid, but just having very clear memories of that 84 year, where it just felt like thriller born in the USA and like a virgin were just on the radio, seven singles each all year.

That was just all that was on. And it was like, cool, this is the only three records I really need. I mean, for one thing, I'm like eight. But for the other thing, like this, this completely satisfies every itch you could scratch in music. And that's kind of like what Raiders is. I mean, like, there's very few films that like, you know, you watch it and there's some, you know, some of the special effects maybe aren't like as top notch, even as like the ones in Last Crusade. But it does still make me feel like a kid when I watch it. I just can't believe it.

It's like a amusement park ride. You're like. That's exactly what Craig said before we started recording. It feels like an amusement park ride. Which they knew because they made two different rides for it. have the Disneyland one, they have the stunt thing. We talk a lot about, we did this with Momento. We talked about pre-internet, these different areas that movies have.

81 to me is this last year before cable really comes in. 82 is when everybody started to get cable. So you have that, but you also have, and we'll get to this later, but Raiders completely remodels the whole VHS thing. People are starting to get VHSs, but the tapes cost like $129. They made them for whatever reason crazy. Raiders, I think, was like 40. So reasonable.

40 back then is like 100 down. But if you really love Raiders, you could buy it and then you could own it and you could watch it 700 times. I remember Jim Grady, who I mentioned earlier, he had, I think, Rocky 3 on VHS. And we would just go over and be like, let's watch Rocky 3 again. It was like, what else are we going to do? We have 12 cable channels. This movie, that was one of the reasons he kept going. And the reason why you...

would buy this movie is because like a pure rewatchable, like the kind of current, like the original kernel of this, of this pie was like kind of talking about movies that no matter where you jump in, you're like, I'll finish it now or I want to wait to see this. No matter where you are in this movie, you're less than 10 minutes away from something big happening. Yeah, maybe even less. I went through and like actually wrote down like what happens at the 10th minute, the 20th minute, the 30th minute, it's always a cliffhanger or like a huge question. You know what I mean? Like, is he going to get out of the well of souls. Like that is, and it happens every 10 minutes.

Like, you wonder whether or not they, like, engineered storytelling on an almost elemental level like that. I didn't want to watch it with Ben, my son, who's 13. Because he didn't want him to not like it. I think he would have. I'm 90% sure he would have. There's 10% of me that was worried that he wouldn't like it. And then I would just lose faith in humanity going forward.

Well, but it's a question of pacing, right? Because at this time, it felt breakneck when it was released. but by today's standards, it's maybe a little bit slower than a Marvel movie might be in terms of where the set pieces come and are there enough wise cracks? The one thing for me, though, with this movie,

it came up before I was born. It's a self-label classic. Like in my house, we didn't buy, we didn't spend $40 on the movie. We taped the movie off HBO. Right. And then we'd write the label on it, and then we'd put two movies on one thing.

So we had Raiders of the Lost Ark and Temple of Doom on one cassette. Yeah. And we would watch them back to back in my house. And they would last six hours so you could get almost three movies. Exactly.

They were three shorter movies. Yeah, that was a great era. I used to, Simmons Family Cape Week, I used to tape movies to bring to the week and try to fit three. It was like, you know, in 1985, you'd have whatever as in HBO trying to cut that, save enough room for,

and Raiders was on, anyone who had VHS tapes, Raiders had to be on the thing. And it just lived down and on. But the quicker in the theaters thing, so it comes out on June 12th, does well, finishes as number one film,

of the weekend beats Clash of the Titans and History of the World Part 1. Great movie. Falls to number three second weekend behind Cannonball Run and Superman 2. Canong ball run, another great movie. Fourth week gets momentum again, reaches number two. Six week regains number one and then is number one for the next nine weeks. This is what never happen again, ever. It's so weird to think about who in week six is like, should I see this Raiders movie or what? People keep telling me about it. People were busy. I don't know. What were they doing?

What were they doing in 1981? They were like, you know what? I'm going to wait six weeks before I see this. Movies are out of theaters after six weeks now. Just getting real fired up about Jimmy Carter. I don't know. So it lasted 40 weeks straight as one of the top 10 films. And it was in theaters for 13 months.

13 months. Pretty amazing. Kept going and going. For Harrison Ford, you know, he becomes an A-plus-plus-plus list. Kind of fills the Redford. Royal Redford's getting a little older. Yep. One thing that I think...

Just jumps right in there, grabs it. I think really helped him is Empire Strikes Back, comes out the year before, and ends on the ultimate bummer note, where he gets frozen in the carbonite. And you're like, what the fuck? Is Han Solo gone forever? Yeah. And then one year later, he shows up and he's like, on back, bitches. Yeah, right.

And then he gets Street Cred from Blade Runner a year later, too, which also really helped him. And then did a nice mix of popular with Street Cred. Yeah. Witness was on recently, which is a really weird movie. but pretty good really good but really weird 36 years later

and working girl is like one of the more beloved movies from that decade in a lot of ways so great for Ford this became

the highest grossing film in 1981 330.5 million worldwide 20 million dollar budget so everybody made their money Lucas and Spielberg

both did some crazy royalties shit on this yeah they basically reinvented how you should do that and Lucas

they made the deal with Eisener right Yeah, Eisenner said it was the best script they ever saw. They were very concerned about the budget with Spielberg because he was a little splashy. He splashed the pot every once in a while. Stevie KGB. The only thing they knew is there was going to be three.

So when they got Ford, which will get into, there's some unbelievable casting. Some of the best casting would have, I think, ever in the history of this podcast. Again, this is how CR did the Winslet deal. Right. It was a three podcast deal with Kate. She's like, I love it.

too. They do, Ford's like, hey, if you're in, you got to be in for three, not thinking he would say no, and he's like, great, I'm in.

He's probably stoned out of his mind, is my guess, but he signed up. And that led to three sequels, television series, video games, comic books, novels, theme park attractions,

toys, Harrison Ford becoming an A plus plus lister, Spielberg and Lucas, getting fuck you power pretty quickly to do whatever the hell they want. It's pretty much up there with Star Wars

in terms of the merchandise. in terms of that being like lunch boxes in terms of like kids wearing the fedora for Halloween you know just a huge huge run on bullwips you know Bullwhips I know I was in my backyard bull whipping our dog

because the start is so much for Chris in terms of bullwhips you know he really got his start Apparently there's a fifth film coming out in 2022 yeah if it's people were not directing it James Mangold is directing it yeah a little nervous about that 1982 Oscars five wins

editing sound sound editing art directions special effects. Can you do me a favor? Do you have the nominees up right now? I can get it. I'm curious to know what beat John Williams' score. It got nominated for Best Picture and Best Director and did not win. This is the 1982 Oscars. And 1981, I've got it. It's a pretty interesting showdown, actually. Characott's Fire, right? Yeah. Charit's Angelus. So this is a pretty good best picture. Charit's Fire, Atlantic City, on Golden Pond, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Reds. It's fucking loaded.

Man. Yeah, on Golden Pond, Chris solo pod coming soon, right? When are you going to do your Reds rewatchables? It'll be four hours long. It'll be me and all the survivors of rewatchables pods, speaking on the beauty of the rewatchables. Warren Bady wins for Reds. Best Director.

He beats Louis Mali, Atlantic City. Hugh Hudson for Charrats of Fire. Not a lot of Hugh Hudson talk on this pot. He did Tarzan and kind of got vanquished by that one. Mark Rydell for Radell for a lot of. on Golden Pod? Yeah. Spielberg, Raiders the Lost Ark.

What happens if we redo that, Oscar? I think Beatty still wins. Yeah? Bady was the Prom King. He had directed a bunch of movies or co-directed a bunch of movies at that time. He'd shown a lot of range.

Reds is this homage to this incredible moment in world history. It's fucking incredible, too. Breathaking movie. Okay. Chariot's a fire winning, I think, has not aged all that well, personally. I think Raiders and Reds are significantly better.

I like Atlantic City more too. Ford does not get nominated. Nobody gets nominated for an actor thing. And then for screenplay, shut up. Hmm. They were like, no thanks. I didn't realize that. Pauline Kale, people listen to her back there.

I don't think that's why it happened. Your best original score went to Chariots. Okay. Do you remember what best original song was for the 1982 Oscars? Was it Charoots of Fire by anybody? Let me just tell you, this is... Cheriates of Fire! This cherry hits on fire

It was Arthur's theme It's burning It was When you get caught between a moon In New York City It's Arthur I know it's crazy But it's true

That one Endless Love by Lionel Richie I don't know what he had to do Let's hear a little bit of that Bill Go ahead fire away Lionel Richie Who was in that with him Diana Ross?

I don't remember I don't know if I've seen Endless Love The first time it happens Great Muppa Caper For Your Eyes Only from four years as only, and then one more hour from ragtime.

So, um, interesting. I mean, the thing about this is, this is a continuation of Lucas dominating the technical awards at the Oscars, which he did with Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. And he does here,

whereas there's this sense that everyone who worked on this movie below the line is like at the top of their game. But they're at the top of their game because they're working with Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, who are challenging them to be great. Like, you mentioned, like, the sort of synchronicity every 10 minutes. This was the most storyboarded movie that Spielberg had made to this point. Like, he knew exactly what he wanted to do.

And it's kind of mind-blowing when you think about how much of it is shot on soundstages in England. You know, for the amount of, like, globe-trotting that it does. Like, so much of the temples, so much of the stuff, interiors are all just, like, in England. For Oscar's standpoint, I think the only tough one is not getting a screenplay nomination is pretty bad. The screenplay's amazing. Yeah, that's a pretty weird one. So, Territ's a fire, absence of malice, Arthur, Atlantic City, and Reds. I mean, Arthur over Raiders of the Lost Art.

Arthur has a best screenplay? It's pretty weird. It's like, yeah, this drunk guy with a club foot in New York City. Roger Ebert, our guy, four stars. Went to the mattresses for this one. He really did. He called it a series of breathless and incredible adventures and just loved it.

Had enough story for Raj. This is one of his calling his shot moments in his story. career where he's like Spielberg has has arrived at the top of his game. Pauline Kale, who I think had about as much cloud. You mentioned her three times now. Well, as much cloud as probably she ever had at this point. And the review is fascinating. She's so dismissive.

I mean, she's amused. She said it's fine. It has some good things. But it's just kind of shits all over it and how there's no point to it. And it's a cheap thrill ride, that kind of stuff. And it was just weird. In a weird way, she's probably as pressing as Ebert because she's seeing the game change right in front of her. And that's why that review is really great to reread because she's basically like, this is a really good movie.

But here's what I don't like. This is what everything is going to be going forward. And I'm not here for that. And she called it. It's almost a perfect example of the Ebert School of Criticism and Kale School of Criticism in terms of what they're looking for and how they're responding to the way that the movies are changing. And he is seeing the upside. of the way that someone like Spielberg is making these thrill rides. And she's saying, welcome to the 80s.

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Golden Colorado ale rewatchable scenes. I have a controversial take. The first scene is really good. A lot of people don't say that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that scene's really good. In fact, that's a little much. Another one of my controversial takes is I think it's in the running for best opening scene of all time. Yes.

Give him the web. Throw me the idol. No time to argue. Throw me the idol. I throw you the whip. Give me the whip. Adios, sign. The sequence are just like the act.

The whole scene. It's an amazing way to start a movie. One of the greatest character introductions ever. Oh my God. Yeah, the first time we see his face. Don't get to see his face. Don't get to see his face. Can I just, can I mention the Soderberg thing?

Yeah. Of course. So Soderberg a couple years ago, Stephen Soderberg recut, quote unquote. He basically put up a version of Raiders that's black and white. with no sound except for the social network score. And he's just like, just watch this movie this way. And you will understand everything that's happening in the movie without a dialogue,

without any music, without anything, because they are geniuses in terms of staging, in terms of shooting. If you watch this opening sequence with just the social network music playing in the background, you're just like, I know as much about these characters with no dialogue and nothing else and no bird sounds or anything, it's essentially like expert silent filmmaking. and then you put a Lawrence Kasden screenplay on top of it. It's wild.

But when you watch this scene, it is incredible how much is communicated with like the most amazing visual efficiency. Iconography too. I mean, it's like it's pulling from the past and the kind of movies you'd seen in the past, but also making something new. It's the whole thing.

And it's so fun. Like it's just so him at every step of the way, almost getting stabbed by spikes in the wall, you know, being covered in spiders, you know, reaching to replace the bag, and the golden idol. And then he thinks he did it and then it turns out he didn't.

Yes. Yeah. There's so many things in here where you're in this movie where something will happen. I was watching it and I was like, is this the first time anyone ever did that? And then like for the rest of my life

in every action movie this happens? You know what I mean? Like I can point him out. But like when Molina is like, I think the one guy is like, they'll kill us and Malina's like if they wanted to kill us, we'd already be dead.

And it's just like, that's in 75 action movies Is that the first time? I don't know, but it feels like it just invents all this stuff. Or Adios Signor. Yes. That's just been ripped off liberally over and over again. It's like, oh, he turned on him. The rope swings great.

I just love booby-trap Peruvian temples, just in general. That's one of my things. Is Ben going to get into booby traps, you think? Boobie-trap Peruvian temples, maybe. The gold boot is great. Kind of looks like the NBA trophy, like a tiny bit. The giant ball. I remember the giant boulder

whatever it is I remember in the trailer or in the commercial whatever they tease it for a split second and it was kind of like the jaws of that and you think it's coming way later and it's like oh they're gonna just give us to this right away it's so good

I have no idea it's one of those there's a lot of moments this movie you're like I don't know how they filmed that I don't know how they did that and then when you do the research you realize like oh they just fucking they did all this And if somebody got hurt, they got hurt.

Like Joel Embed in Game 4 of a Washington series. It's part of what makes the movie totally frozen in time, but also so effective is it's almost entirely practical. You know, it's all real, that is a giant piece of, I don't know what it's made out of. Styrofoam, yeah, rolling. And then you read the stories about how hard they worked to get the sound right of what the boulder rolling across the ground should sound like. You know, and at first it sounds like a car on gravel, and then that wasn't good enough. So then they went into the kitchen and they started messing with kitchen tools. And it's people like working really hard to do something that seems really silly.

But when you're seven years old and you watch a movie and it captures your imagination, that's just what a bolder sounds like. Yeah. And when you're 40 years old or whatever, you're watching it with your big screen TV or just like, shit still sounds incredible. Yeah, it's good. This movie was helped. We had that in which they should best. But like with a lot of these things, as the technology got better and we could go full widescreening all that stuff was great. So we have that one.

We have the Egypt fight scene. I try to narrow these down. Ford shoots the sword guy. So he thinks they killed Marion. So you're really just like the Cairo sequence. That whole Cairo sequence. There's a thing. I never knew this.

And probably you guys did. But he shot that guy because everyone was so sick with dysentery. Ford couldn't do the fight scene. And they kind of audibled. And he's like, what if I just shoot him instead of. There's behind the scenes footage of him, like, they're basically, like, trying to stage, like, him fighting him with the whip. Yeah. And, yeah.

Yeah, there's some funny stuff with it where, like, also Ford famously hurt his wrist doing carpentry work on Valerie Harper's house in the 70s before he was famous. So all of the fights, there is some finagling where he's like, wouldn't it just be a little easier if I didn't have to train for this fight and I could just shoot this guy? Yeah. And it turns out to be, like, a classic comedy action movie moment. And the poor stuntman, Terry Richards. Training for weeks? Yeah, she spent several weeks practicing sword skills for this extended fight scene that never happened. That whole scene's really good.

There's also just a shitload of people in it and they navigate it so well. You always know where you are. She falls in the car and they're going around and all of a sudden there's a million carts. It's like a Buster Keaton sequence. Yeah. It's great. They would not make a scene. In my opinion, they would not make a scene like that anymore.

No, they'd be like the CGI people. The carriage that Marian is in is to jump through the. Abu Dhabi skyscraper now and then go to the moon. That would be fucking cool. It's a good idea. Even look at a movie like the Jake Jellon Hall movie Prince of Persia,

which is ostensibly a similarly like desert set adventure movie. It's just all CGI. You know, it's all real people. These are all real carts. Indy finds the arc. I really narrowed this down. I narrowed down to seven.

You guys can chip after. Indy finding the arc, that whole thing with the lowering down and the snakes and stuff, yeah. No, no, this is before. when he... Oh, in the map room. The first finds it.

And the light comes out of it. I thought it was like Sam Hinky with the process. Like, I feel like that was the same thing. When Sam Hinky realized, I will tank five seasons. And I will keep getting top three lottery picks. And the light just came out of whatever basketball and psychopedia he was looking at. No? Did Hinky turn out to be Belloc?

Yeah, Hikie died. Hinky is Ketanga. Halfway through the movie. I really liked that one. The Snake Pit scene had that as well. the snake pit scene so in the research which I'm fortunately read afterwards

but apparently you can spot the fake snakes there's lizards some of the snakes have ears which mean they're lizards but I still really get creeped out with that snake scene I mean it's also just like they do a very good job of making it be like he's very scared of snakes like he mentions it multiple times

before he gets to the well of souls I mean my favorite line reading in the whole movie is when he jumps into the plane at the beginning and he's like, you know, there's a snake in the seat. And he's like, oh, that's my snake Reggie. And he's like, I hate him. And that's like perfect character choice. There's a big snake in the plane, Jack.

Oh, that's just my pet snake Reggie. I hate snakes, Chuck. I hate them. Come on. Show a little backball, will you? Because you know when you see the snakes later, like nothing will torture this guy. I wonder if snakes ever recovered from Raiders. you know

funny thing with Indiana Jones movies first movie snakes second movie bugs third movie rats there's like a choice thing yeah that's right

the rats in the first bud did a good job with the rats too yeah yeah the I left out when Karen Allen

the whole fight at her bar and all that stuff that part is great doing the shots that could be in there too the airplane fade in

I'm sorry the airplane fight right into the truck chase for me the most rewatchable part of this movie yeah

I love the beginning and then I love that part. We get bald, bare-knuckle Nazi. And blind Nazi who refuses to die. Yeah. Yeah. Get those two guys. Yeah, that's actually weirdly the only part of the movie that tempts my suspension of disbelief, not the Ark of the Covenant coming alive and the spirits. It's like literally when Indies going toe to toe with, you know, bruiser Brody there for a while. It's like taking

haymakers right in the face from this guy. Yeah. Boom. That actually, I remember that for a while. I can't remember the first movie, because that was also like where in like 48 hours like Nulte and Murphy just wail on each other for 30 minutes and then they're like, let's go back into the bar, you know? When's the last time you got hit in the face?

It's literally been since like eighth grade. What about you? It's been a long time? Only like an inadvertent elbow and basketball. What about you? Probably like 19, but it hurts like a mother, man. Like these guys are just taking shots. Yeah. Well, it's like

25th hour when he gets punched five times so his face is completely made me out there and then the last one I have is face melt a paloosa I just wrote down

yeah we don't we'll never know why they didn't just kill Indy why they just had him tied up standing just far enough away that

there's some nitpicks there but four or five times it's just like just shoot India Jones I got some nitpics yeah I just kill him

any of their rewatchable scenes for you So as exposition scenes go when those guys come and visit Marcus and Indy at college. And Indy's got the big book,

and he's like, you guys didn't go to Sunday school, did you? You know, like, that's fucking awesome. Yeah, the Ark of the Covenant, the Chess the Hebrews used to carry around the Ten Commandments. What do you mean?

The Ten Commandments. You're talking about the Ten Commandments? Yes, the actual Ten Commandments, the original stone tablets that Moses brought down out of Monterey have been smashed if you believe in that sort of thing. You guys ever go to Sunday school?

Well, I... Oh, look. The Hebrews took the broken pieces and put them in the ark, when they settled in Canaan, they put the ark in a place called the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem, where it stayed for many years. That whole scene is amazing. And you just sort of like, you know, the music is playing, like this, the Williams score is playing,

and it's just like creating this, you know, the world of like mysticism and spirituality and religiosity. And then also like, you know, we focus so much on the action. It's the adventure part, too. It's like, this guy is about to go on this amazing adventure. But you think about how many comic book movies, no disrespect you watch when you're just like, you sit through an explanation of what's going to happen or what's happening and you're just like, what the fuck are you talking about? What? This actually makes sense. In this movie, it works for a very specific reason. And it's about the character. The character is a college professor. He's kind of a pedantic

jerk. Sure. Yeah. He's somebody who's like, I know everything. I'm going to explain everything to you. So these two FBI agents walk in FBI agents. I don't even know what they're supposed to be, government agents. And he's like, how do you guys not know this? Right. Here's what the arc of the cover. is. I'll admit, I did not know what the Ark of the Covenant was until it was explaining me by Indiana Jones. But for that character, it makes sense that he would act that way towards those guys. And it would make sense that he would go to his chalkboard and he would draw how the staff of Ra would then shoot light into a crystal. And the coolest thing is like there's a shot of the two guys talk, the two FBI agents talking, but in the foreground of the shot is the book.

And the book is like essentially like Indy's Trump card. He's like this knowledgeable guy. and that image, that illustration of all that shit coming out of the arc, all the lightning and power of God, it stays with you until the facemail. It's so cool. Really good. Great stuff. I have the opening scene is my most rewatchable scene with the airplane fight going into the truck chase. The truck chase just does an awesome, you're constantly going, how do they do this?

How did that happen? Is it the best chase scene in a movie ever? like what's that like four minutes long I feel like it's even longer than that because it includes all that you know it includes him getting on the truck falling off the truck getting back on the truck right he rides out on the horse he jumps on he gets finally gets control the truck then he gets shot in the arm

yeah and then the I love that one thing I picked up on which I had not really realized before but he's on the truck and the one of the German soldiers gets inside the truck with him while he's driving and the German soldier starts punching him in the arm that he was shot in yeah I'm like this is such a little small choice that is so well done. But I feel like it's longer than four minutes. I feel like it's six or seven minutes. Maybe that's like eight. No, those two, like the fight at the airfield and the truck chase are both like 10 minutes long each. You know how Chris, a recurring theme on the rewatchables is that he really wants to own a bar? Yes. I really at some point in my life want to climb on somebody's car,

come in the passenger's seat, punch them in the face, and then kick them out of the car and take over the stone. We're at like 40 miles an hour. Just once. I don't think that those are the same. I thought you were to see if I couldn't do it. We should buy Chris a bar in Nepal and send him there. And that could be like a ringer big. There's a lot of mechanics though, right? Because you have to climb through the window, which that alone is hard. I don't think it works.

I don't think anybody can do it. The guy is driving. All he has to do as you're climbing in is just punch you in the balls, right? So you got to avoid that. You sit down. Then you have to right hand cross the guy in the face. Reach over, open the door. But now his limp body is not driving.

So the car's going to lose momentum. So you have to, in the moment, figure out how to keep the gas pedal going, how to open the door, how to get this dude out and take control of the wheel. I just want to see it. We're so crippled by like modern society. I'm like, I can't make a left on Western. You think I'm going to kick a fucking Nazi out of my car? It's another thing, though, that has become so common. I saw Fast and Furious Nine yesterday.

And there are so many scenes of guys jumping into and out of the car in that exact same way, like swinging through the window to get in. and we just accept it. Like, try doing that in your car while parked. Try jumping on somebody's car on the hood when they're going 40 miles an hour. Like, the odds of staying in the car. You would get emulsified. Yeah. That's why in the big show I love when J.T. Lancer has to.

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Blue Moon Brewing Company Golden Colorado Ail. All right, what stage is the best? The music. Yeah, the John Williams score. I think we've neglected to like nominate the score

in a couple of more recent ones and I just want to say that this is probably my favorite score. Is it? Is it? So is this his best? I mean, this is the dude,

It has three iconic pieces. It's got the March. The March. It's got the Map Room music like that one. I don't know. How does the March go? I forget. That's what's called the March.

Yeah, I just call it the theme. I think. Great music. I like any movie for another What's Age the Best where somebody says to somebody else, what about your boss? Der Fuhr. We're just in good shape.

I have a whole thing I want to do about Nazis and millions of movies later. Hold that thought. Another would stage the best. Less than two hours. It's 100 and like five minutes. And this really helped it when people are going to see this in the theater

because you could show it at 5, 7, 9, 11, whatever you want to do. Harrison Ford's hat is great. People did, there was a run for this hat in the 80s. I'm just going to tell you. The fedora, yeah. When we were talking about Ford and how cool Ford was a little while ago.

I wanted to suggest to you guys, like let's just each of us try to put that hat on and take a photo, see how we look. See if we can pull it off. My head's too big. There's no way. No other human being can wear that hat aside from Humphrey Bogart.

Those are the only two people you've ever seen wear the great point. I would say it's the best. Really young Alfred Molina. He's 15 years away from playing Night Ranger for Dirk Diggler and Todd Parker. Yes. Beautiful. The Browchild?

Yes. The guy throwing the things, the cracker. When are, so we did Goodfellas and we're doing Raiders now. These are two of the five most requested movies ever on the show. When are we doing Boogie Nights? Boogie Nights, we're still saving. Okay. I feel like once boogie nights happen, and at that point I don't care about the pot anymore.

It's just like, now we're just playing out the string. I'll say that. Bill. Todd? Parker? Oh. That's what me and Winslet take over the feed

and just start talking about the reader. God, she's so good. I'm so jealous. The poison date is great. That is just some awesome filmmaking where the things in the air and the guy catches it. Bad date.

Bad date. Look over, you got the dead monkey. I'm sure they killed the monkey. This is back in the days. We're like, we need to kill the monkey. Stop on the end. Stop moving. Morwood's age the best.

November 188. Paramount releases 500,000 home video copies of Raiders priced at 39.95. Priced it way lower than the competition, thinking that it would promote home video watching within two years. One million copies of the film has sold. The best-selling VHS of the 80s. And there's some good, if you ever read the Disney books, which is a really fun deep dive to read all the Eisner-Igr stuff,

the stuff about Eisner unlocking the home video business as part of Disney's whole thing. It's like really, it seems like a no-brainer, but it just wasn't. Was he the person who originated the idea of like you can buy Beauty and the Beast for two months and then it's going back in the library for- Oh, yeah. All the stuff they did was just genius and this was one of the things. So another one of the best, Paul Freeman was Bullock. Belloc. Not Reggie Bullock.

Belak. So when the Indiana is threatened in the Nazis, you can see a fly going into his mouth. And apparently he didn't realize it. Pauline Kale wrote about it in her review, and then it's become this legendary moment from the thing. It's the good, what's age the best. It's the moment when India has a rocket launcher,

and he's aiming it down at them right near the end before the barc opens up and Belak is talking. And he gets the gun, and he's just like, we all go. Yes. All the other, what's age is the best, like we mentioned at the top, the other people that are in this, Nazis as villains

all those great things is just anything else for you guys there's a detail on this movie I remember I've just it stuck with me basically my entire life and I don't know why they do it it doesn't really matter but I love it every single time I see it which is the

one male student in his class who leaves him an apple as he's the last one to walk out and he's so he's in such a bad mood because obviously like all the women love him and the student's just like here's your apple and walks out and then Marcus picks up the apple and starts eating it. I was just always like I want an entire, I want to know everything about that kid and what's going on with him. But

that's like these little details that are in this movie that aren't in other movies. Other things that have aged the best. Karen Allen going cruising followed by Raiders of the Lost Ark, incredible moment. Wow. You see cruising's on the Criterion channel? Did you know that? Seriously? Yeah. It got added. It's huge for you both. Is it just the two of us for that one? Of course it is. We want to have on cruising. I'm not on that pod. Are you mad because you weren't invited?

Do you want to be invited? I had a... I wish you and Craig luck. I had one more... I'm going to do cruising solo like I did Castaway. It's just going to be me by myself. Chris could come into the end and all chats. I'm just only for the dark web.

I had one more with stage the best because airplanes the year before this. Airplane has the shot when they had the flashback scene and they're in that bar when it's like the Saturday fever thing. and it's just this bar in the middle of nowhere. I do feel like this was a good run for bars in the middle of nowhere. Karen Allen's bars, I have no idea.

Where was that supposed to be? Nepal. Nepal. Just look like a cool place to hang. I don't know. They did a nice job with like random island location bars back in the early 80s. Were you inspired at all seeing that bar and thinking like this is kind of similar to my space? Shrimp and sports.

That bar, CR shrimp and sports, still looking for investors. but for an A round. I think that there's a lot of like real estate. Have you considered a SPAC with the athletic? But Karen Allen's drinking game in the beginning reminded me in my 24th birthday where you just go shot for shot with a Sherpa. Yeah.

That was you? That was my 50th birthday and I lost, much like the Sherpa. What's age the worst? I have a whole, well, let's do this now. The Indiana Jones Marion Chemistry It's a little lacking. Are you saying specifically the sparks between them

or just the dynamic of her being like I was a child when you started? No, I'm talking about the sparks. I'm never buying them as a couple. I don't think he really cares that much about her. I think he's in love with the concept of getting the arc and they're trying to get us to buy this whole storyline with her and quite frankly, I never totally bought it

and I think it's the biggest flaw of the movie. Well, but so I think you're right that there's this sense that he is selfish and he's putting the quest over the girl, but that plays out in later films. I mean, he has a different love interest than every movie, and there's a sense that he has a hard time committing. This isn't really something he's very interested in. As a romantic partner, he's interested in going on adventures. And so in the fourth movie, they actually kind of address this because they introduce, you know, Marion comes back and then they introduce his son, who's played by Shia LeBuff. Well, and the fourth movie sucked, so it all made sense. It's not good.

But I still think Karen Allen is really good, though. And I think her hard-nosed approach to him is the right one. And the one that works the best for me. Like, in the second film, I really don't think that the female... Kate Capshot. ...is really up to snuff. Steve liked her. He did.

Steve married. I know I just got married, but I think I'm going to step in. And the third one is bizarre. The third one is like... Alice in Duty? Yeah, is a Nazi. It was hot for him and hot for her dad. His dad too, yeah. His dad.

Yeah, that one probably would, they probably would have gone a different direction with the hot Nazi. At that point, you're just like, no, no, no, it's Steve. Whatever you want to do. You want to make another indie movie? He's like, no, no, no, it's a hot Nazi. He's like, all right. I'll have more on Karen Allen when we get to the recasting couch.

Morewood stage the worst. I can't believe the original name for Indiana Jones was Indiana Smith, and Lucas rolled with that for like four years. What fucking lame name? Indiana Smith. Well, the story was that it was too close to Nevada Smith, the Steve McQueen movie. So that was the reason they changed it. Not because it sounds bad. But Indiana Jones, I mean, in the history of...

Perfect. Character names? Yeah. Amazing. More would say, Juerreys. Karen Allen did a lot of bitching about this movie after that they didn't listen to some of her ideas and she wanted more of a backstory with all this. It's like, shut up. You got to be in Raiders at Lost Ark.

There is like, apparently that bar scene in Nepal is like... It has a lot more dialogue. Casson said, like, I wrote, that's like my favorite piece of writing is the scene between Indy and Marion, and they just cut, like, everything out but the beginning in the end. So I had that. He named Marion after his wife's grandmother. He said he really cared about, he called a comedy character stuff, Carrie Grant, Gene Arthur, and he said, that's about three times as much that didn't get used.

They simplifies the whole thing, but he said, when I look at the movie now, I think they were right. So they stripped it down. And Karen Allen was still mad about it. It's like, well, you still got to be enraiser of Lost Dark. fine. Yeah, I don't know that you need it necessarily. Did you get profit participation in Raiders of the Lost Dark? Probably not. The first

cut was like three plus hours, so I imagine a lot of it was in that first cut, but the movie works as is. I didn't know whether to put the special effects in what stage the best or what stage the worst. Because the face mouth thing's pretty good, but at the same time, I think the ghosts maybe? Nowadays, yeah, the ghosts are pretty rough. The

plane traveling with the red line on a cheesy map, which is basically like we didn't have enough budget to film a travel sequence, let's just pull a map out with a red line and call it a day. I don't need to see a lot of takeoffs and landings of planes, though. That's fine with me. Where do you stand on an evil-looking lead, Nazi and glasses

guy? Tot? I mean, he definitely does everything he's asked to do. Be an asshole and then die. I think he's so visually compelling and scary that he actually I don't actually know what he does that is

so bad. Like, what is it that he... Are you zagging? No, no. Obviously, he's a Nazi. But like, why is he a villain? But, like, why is he the arch villain of the story? I think he's supposed to bring with him, like, the weight of the Gestapo and, like, all of the, like, other.

Like, if Chris wore those glasses, would he be evil? Like, it's like the glasses were all that made him evil. He sweats profusely and wears a black leather overcoat. I needed him to kill a couple people in front of us. Very similar energy, I think, to the cardinal with International and Mobile R.A. He does have a little of that vibe. I have a great take, and this is probably my best take of the entire podcast. Okay.

I don't think they put a lot of thought into putting, like, awesome actors in roles like that. I think that was where they looked at it and they thought, let's save some money. I don't think that in 1981, people were like, I really need to play a Nazi. I mean, Olivier does it in Marathon, man, but like... Yeah, and guess what? He's fucking awesome. Sure. I don't think until we get to die hard where somebody's like, oh, actually, the villain part is good.

is an awesome part. And then Nicholson's like, I'm going to be the Joker. And people are like, whoa, Nicholson's going to be the Joker? Because this was an era where the actors wanted to play the good guy parts. Right. They didn't want to be the bad guy. And so you end up with like the actor like Todd who's like fine. But I was watching Don't Ask Why, but I was watching Blowout with Travolta.

Don't ask why. Our De Palma Scorsese conversation. I've just, I've been reexamining DePaul a little bit. And Lithgow has this amazing kind of under the radar, villain running that where he barely does anything, but he's fucking awesome. And I just think if that's like a mediocre actor, that movie is a different movie. And I think they fucked up with Todd. I think he looks the part. I think to me it's more like in the writing of the story, we don't totally see what makes him the arch villain. You know, like he's going after Marion, but basically

he gets defeated by Indy in that first sequence. And then later we see him when he comes into the tent and he takes his jacket off and then he takes out what looks like he's going to choke someone with something, and then it turns into a hanger, and he hangs his coat on it. And I think it's meant to indicate that, like, the Nazis were clowns. You know, the movie is showing you that, like, they believe in the occult, but they don't really know, like, they're bumbling, and it's meant to make them look foolish. And that's part of the thinking there. Same thing, Wolf Collar, who, the, uh, Colonel Dietrich is like kind of a buffoon. Yeah, he's the other big Nazi. Yeah, he's listening to his music when everything explodes towards the end. I think Todd, all I said

it was like, kick a dog, kick a monkey. Do something that's like, oh, this is a bad. He never has I'd never really gotten through this film and been like, Tot's not intimidating enough. I think Belloc is the real villain in the movie, though. And Belloc is interesting, and he's a symptom of maybe something that has kind of, quote, unquote, aged the worst, which is like, anytime there's a character who is not English or American, they're like, let's cast a British guy. Like, Paul Freeman is British.

He's not French. The same way that Jonathan Reese Davis plays a guy named Sala, the same way that Alfred Molina plays a guy, a Peruvian guide. It's like, they're just casting British actors, which is something that obviously had been happening in Hollywood for years and years. I had Paul Freeman in one stage the worst. I mean, his career since this movie

kind of speaks for itself. That's a part that should have gone to an awesome actor. Like Dirk Bogart or something? Like David Strait Harne 10 years later. At least somebody of that caliber. I read Genecarlo Giannini was tabbed for it. And he would have been good. They would have had to make the character Italian and not French.

But it being a French character is smart. Because that, you know, he's the mealy-mouthed. middle ground World War II French representative. Yeah, it's like the guy's a collaborator, yeah. Can I just say one more, what's your worst?

Could Hackman have been there? As a French guy? I don't know. Imagine Hackman doing a French accent. Remember all those, like the Al Pacino conversation at Muso and Frank in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

where like they're thinking about how they're being perceived? Like major movie stars weren't like you're saying, not doing villain parts. Hackman is taught. Oh. Put some glasses on him.

What about Hackman is indie? Because that's really where he was out. rumor, right, that he was asked. I have a couple more Wood Sage the Worst, but you want to go? I just was going to say I hate the monkey. Yeah, I don't like, I never have like monkeys. Up there with Marcel and Friends is my least favorite monkey. That's the number one worst monkey.

Yeah. Does this monkey is like, so this monkey is like an undercover cop? Like, you can trade a monkey to do that? Like, how does that work? Season 1 of Friends is actually excellent. And Marcel the monkey is the fucking turd in the punch ball of half of that season. You're absolutely right. Just a terrible idea.

When you're right, you're right, that's your best take. Thank you. I knew I'd have a good time. take today. Morewood stage the worst. The sequel. Who? Yeah.

People hated the sequel. It made so much money and everybody was upset after and it was like, it's kind of, it was what, 30 years before Twitter, 25 years before Twitter, but it was like if America just could have been Twitter, everybody was like, that movie fucking sucked. People were so mad the whole summer and it was violent. It ends up PG-13 has to happen. It's like kids getting killed. Yeah.

Yeah, it was rough. It's a weird fucking movie. The biggest sin, in addition to it being like crazy and sensitive and a movie that can ever be made now, it's totally lost the tone of Indiana Jones. It's so slapsticky. Yeah. India is so cool in the first movie. And there are jokes and there's a lot of smart lines, but it's a rollicking adventure movie.

And Temple of Doom is like a clown show. Almost literally at times, it feels like a circus. And they get it back in Last Crusade. But it's bizarre how they just kind of like, I mean, a lot of the same people worked on that movie. different screenwriters, no Kazden. That's important. But it's weird how much they lost the plot.

Was that 84-85? Because there's so many... 84. So many great pop culture movies came out, 84-85. And that one just didn't fit in with the rest of them. Pauline Kale mentioned her review. I would put it more in the What's Age the Worst? Just that she didn't see...

I don't tell you she was right. It was, but the thing that was great about her where she could straddle the fence and point out all the things, but also like admire what the person achieved. And it's not in there in this movie. At the same time, it's an incredible review. The last one's the worst for me is I don't know why they cut the boy stuff. Because initially when Brody goes to Indy's house to discuss the mission,

Jones is dressed the way it because he has a young woman in the bedroom. They decided to cut it. The initial idea was to make him a little more James Bondi And then Spielberg's like, nah, it doesn't really fit his character. I didn't think that was a mistake. I think if Indy had been slightly more of a playboy, I would have just enjoyed that. It's just a little dicey because it makes it sound like he was just into teenage girls. I mean, the whole movie is like the girls in his class are swooning after him.

So it's like if you had gone too far in that direction, I think it would have seemed way out of touch. Although, you know, in 1936 when the movie is said, it's not so bizarre to imagine a college professor romancing his students. But I don't know. I think he's good enough as a romantic way. Yeah, I think it's actually... Professor Indyton Jones canceled. It's like, this is ultimately like a PG movie, you know? Yeah.

And like there's like, I guess, a love scene with Marion later on. It makes that love scene more pure because he hasn't been with anybody else that you've seen, you know? I don't think they consummated it. You don't think he and Marion did... No, I think they made out. We're going to take a break. We're going to come back with some of the best casting what-ifs we've ever had. Yeah. This podcast is brought to you by...

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Eye drops and work all day to prevent the release of histamines that cause itchy allergy eyes. And the winner, by knockout, is Padaday. Hadiday. Bring it on. All right, casting what ifs. So Coffin was supposed to direct this film. He's like, I can't. I'm doing something called the outlawed Josie Wales.

I'm just going to work on that, so I can't do that for you. Until he wasn't. And then he wasn't. Lucas wanted Deborah Winger. She said no. Said no. Spielberg wanted Amy Irving, his girlfriend. She wasn't available.

They kicked the tires on Barbara Hershey. Sean Young. They used Sean Young for the screen test for all the indie auditions, which you can see in the DVD extras. And she had enough chemistry with Ford that they ended up in Blade Runner together. So they eventually landed on Karen Allen, who they liked in Animal House. Indiana Jones, this gets interesting. So there's a lot of Jeff Bridges stuff out there.

It turns out he was not offered the movie, but the cast and director did like Jeff Bridges. And they'd done an audition with him. Like he'd come out and hung out. I've got to say Jeff Bridges would have been good. I don't think it would have been good as Harrison Ford, but I think that's a solid consolation price. I've been trying to picture it. I like Jeff Bridges more than you. Yeah, I like him a lot.

I feel like you're not. You're not invited when we have to Jeff Bridges parties. Do you think Jeff Bridges is too weird to be indie? He would have done like the vanishing crossed with Indiana Jones? If Jeff Bridges had been indie, would you have been like Indiana Jones taught me it was okay to be weird? Drink the coffee, Jeff. Guys, Jeff Bridges is not weird. I don't know what to tell you.

You don't think Jeff Bridges is like... Jeff Bridges gets weird. Starman weird That is pretty weird He'll get his fucking weird on He's pretty weird and fearless He's out there, you know He'll go for it

Are you guys like Part of some Jeff Bridges' secret? I think what's happening We both like Jeff Bridges You know what it was like Jeff Bridges Listen you're not invited to our Jeff Bridges text We talk about how good The first 20 minutes of against all odds is

We're not inviting you Do you think when the listeners of this show Here are you guys talking like this About how like I'm not invited Because you're part of some Jeff Bridges society They're like this is normal These guys are pretty cool. They're definitely doing cool stuff.

Just two guys who love talking about cruising and Jeff Bridges. And not letting shot in. Everyone's got their quirks. I love Jeff Bridges. I don't know how he got here. Wait, so what did you mean? You gave it some thought. What did you think?

He would have been a good indie. I was thinking about it when I rewatched the movie because I had read that he was, was it Lucas who wanted him the most or Spielberg? I can't remember. It was the casting director. Casting director. But he does not have that like hard-nosed thing that Harrison Ford has. Where Harrison Ford throws a punch and you're like,

wow, he actually hit that giant. Nazi wrestler guy. And maybe he hurt him. And Bridges, I don't think, has that. Okay. Lucas's wife preferred Tom Seleck, planted that bug. They got excited about it. And Tom Seleck was going to be indie.

Yeah. And he was filming a show called Magnin P.I. And they asked CBS to release them a little early from the contract. And CBS was like, wait, they want Tom Seleck. We must be on to something. They greenlight Magnin P.I. And Tom Seleck loses. Indiana Jones.

They had fit him for the costume. He was going to wear the mustache in the movie. It was happening. So then there's a writer's strike or an actor's strike, an actor's strike? Writer strike.

Writer strike? And he could have done it. And he could have done it. Yeah. But they had chosen Ford by then. They had already picked forward. Is it the greatest sliding doors moment in the history of movies?

It's really good. And like, you also have to ask yourself just for me personally. Yeah. But like that run that Ford goes on after Raiders, say like one or two of those movies

are going to happen either way but you know like is Tom Selleck Dr. Richard Kimball in 20 years after that? Here's the thing. I love Tom Selleck is awesome. Like it's kind of sad because he's really, I've never watched him in something

and been like, this isn't good. I've always enjoyed him. Don't feel bad for Tom Selleck. He made like $700 million dollars of Magnum PI and lives in Hawaii and I am Blue Blued which is born for like 15 years and like everybody's mom watches every episode.

He's just not an icon of movies. he could have been in this movie. I don't know if he totally has... He doesn't have the exact stuff that has him for that. I think also, did he ever try to do something? Didn't he try to do something kind of like this then? Like a couple years later? It failed.

It was like Alan Corderman or something like that? Was he in that one? Was that Richard Chamberlain? Yeah. He was in one of those type of things. It didn't happen. Well, there's Mr. Baseball, one of your favorites. Well, he was Monica's boyfriend and friends, which was a great character.

That's true. The older man boyfriend He marketed for himself. But yeah, he's not on friends because he would have been an A plus less movie star. Was it quigley down under? Was that what he did?

That was it. Yeah. In America said no thanks. So Spielberg, Spielberg's like, let's get Ford. Lucas is like, I don't want to seem like Ford's my guy. I don't want a Scorsese-Denaro situation.

Yeah, God forbid. Terrible take. George Lucas, Are we sure he was good? I don't know. Ford's like, cool, I'll do it. Seven figure salary, percentage of the gross profits. And the option to rewrite his dialogue,

which he didn't do because he was too stoned. So there's a pretty cool, hour-long dock on the Blu-ray of this, where you see a lot of clips of them making this movie. And you can see that Harrison Ford has a lot of influence. A lot of questions. A lot of pressuring Spielberg to explain why they're doing something a certain way. Prickly guy that Harrison floor. A lot of opinions, but he seems very smart.

He seems like he's asking the right questions. Online, there's versions of like screenplays with his notes in the margins. And they're really, they're pretty weird. Is there a moment on any of the documentary when Spielberg just gets mad? And he's like, you were working with a fucking ape two years ago.

Now your question to me? That's something that is revealed. And, you know, this is an edited documentary. You were Valerie Harper's Carpenter. Yeah. When he, Spielberg is, exactly what how they how they describe him on the set.

Enthusiasmistic. Engaged, excited to talk to every actor knows everything he wants, communicates clearly, never less than a smile on his face. There's a reason he has the reputation he has because he's like, I just fucking love making movies. DeVito was supposed to play Sala.

Basically does in romancing the stone, right? That's right. Yeah. Had scheduling conflicts with taxi, a great show. TV, man. really getting in the way, Raiders of the Lost Arc casting. And then his agents, like, we can make those go away, give us a lot of money, and they're like, cool, we'll just hire a no name. Klaus Kinski was offered the role of Tott, a Bill Hader favorite, Klaus Kinski?

That would have been better because Klaus Kinski is terrifying. Yeah. And also huge, and Tott is like 5, 6, and Klaus Kinski is like 6, 2. It's even worse because... I just never expected you guys to just be so anti-taught in this movie. Not like pro-taught. Todd sucked. I'm still recovering from the Jeff Bridges Society.

I don't... We're surprising each other here. That's between me and Chris. Klaus Kinski said, I don't love the script. I'm going to appear in the horror film Venom because they're offering me more money. Bad call by Klaus.

Klaus could have lived on for eternity. Todd, obviously, a one and done. He's not coming back for sequels. You know, Klaus, he's in a gyrraith of God. He's in Fitzcarral, though. He's going to be all right. There's a documentary called Dangerous Days Making Blade Runner 2007

where apparently there were excerpts in the cinemas for the trailers that convinced the guys in Blade Runner to get Harrison Ford to play Rick. Who knows if that's true. Also, if you look at Indiana Jones very much inspired by Bogart's character and Treasure of Sierra Madre,

Blade Runner very much inspired by the To Have and Have Not style Bogart detective characters. He kind of picks up the Bogart mantle in a way. Jonathan Price was considered for Belloc and then they did Puff That would have been good He would have been good too Yeah

The cella Karasin Ford is in the pantheon of movie what ifs I still have DiCaprio Picking Titanic over Boogie Nights As number one Well that because they're so Consequential Yeah a bunch of shit goes down

Do you have Kate Winslet on your podcast twice? Who can say? Maybe you have Maybe she's Greenwald Maybe she's your co-host You know I think of how things could have shaken out Would Paul Thomas Anderson tell us when he came on my podcast?

I'm not in Jeff. What did he tell us about the DeCaprio thing that he might have had the wrong energy? You're getting competitive with Chris is really good. I want to keep this going. Kate Winsler. You had Chris Bosch this week. It's a schism in the Jeff Bridges text message thread. Chris, we'll work it out.

We're fine. I'm not worried about us. Wait, what did PTA say? Didn't he say he thinks it actually worked out better that they had Walberg? He told him, we did a whole thing with him on the podcast we did. I mean, it did. He said Leo, in retrospect, might have been too youthful. But do you want Leo to be Dirk?

Walberg is perfect as Dirk, because he's just a little dim. You need this kid to be a little dim for it to work. It would have been really good. You're stepping on Boogie Nights here. We'll talk about, yeah, I don't want to step on the Boogie Nights podcast, especially when, I mean, that might, that'll be the longest pod we ever do on this. You think so? That'll be four and a half hours. Yeah, Diggler-esque.

I can do 20 minutes just on Rourke. a girl always wearing her skates, no matter where she was. That's gonna be the game where we have to load manage you going into that. You know what I mean? Dude, filming in two parts. You're gonna have your own doctors

working on your quads. Best that guy, aka the Joey Pants Award. So Paul Freeman probably wins for Belloc because I don't even, I didn't even know that was his name. I gotta be honest, I just knew him as Belloc.

And Ronald Lacey was taught. I didn't know either of those names that I've watched this movie for 40 years. I had no idea what those guys were named. Javre's is too big for? I feel like he was John Rhys Davis. Okay. I think he is because of the Lord of the Rings movies.

Okay. Who do you have for the Vincent Hanna? Give me All You Got a Word for overacting. I have Molina and Karen Allen. I'd Karen Allen. Karen Allen's in fifth gear pretty much from the second she does 11 shots in Nepal and then is just like changing dresses every five seconds. She's really going for it.

This is going to seem a little weird, but I feel like Den O'M Elliott has a little bit of like stop trying to interrupt indie energy. in some of the scenes where it's like, I know that's how it's written, but like, Den Homelia tries to explain stuff to people, and it's like, yeah, we got Indiana Jones here. Like, Marcus, just stand down. Like, let Indie explain it.

And he does a lot in crusade. He gets real involved. Yes. And he's, by that point, Denholm Elliott's like 80. Yeah. Who do you have for the Jed Nelson Award for the guy or girl who seems like

they're in a completely different movie? I felt like everybody was in this movie. The Sherpa. The Sherpa is like in, you know. Yeah, maybe the Sherpa. We'll go with him. What about Katanga? He's kind of in a James Bond movie a little bit.

A little bit. Dionne Waiters Award. The nominees are the eyelid student. She just makes it a half court three and then we never see her again. That's right. The Flip Murray. Bald, bare-knuckle Nazi guy who's killed twice in the film. His name was Pat Roach,

burly British wrestler. He's a giant Sherpa. He dies in the bar. And then he dies again as the German mechanic. other than that I have Mr. Katanga for this I think he brings a lot of energy Yeah

What about the Cairo Swordsman I have for that That's pretty good I would like to nominate him for a new award Which is the reverse Dion Waiters for the guy who does the least with the most A.K. the Jimmy Butler Because that guy has the drop on indie

Does all this talking And gets swept by the bucks That's pretty good I like that one It's a lot of Jimmy Butler award I'm not mad at all A lot of Sixers pain coming through in that new award. Yeah, I like that.

The guy who talks the most shit gets swept. Recasting couch. I have a bronze, silver, and gold medalist. Okay. Bronze medalist, anyone over Paul Freeman. Silver medalist. John Lithgow is evil Nazi guy, which I... As taught.

As taught. Okay. Karen Allen, you're not going to like this. Jeff Bridges? Sharon Stone. Kathleen Turner. I mean, obviously, she does do it. Yeah, she does it in Romantic.

We're getting her three years earlier. We're jumping the gun on romance in the stone. We're getting her body heat, Kathleen Turner. I want to feel like Indiana that he has such a connection with this smaller and batch of sexual energy that he's going to risk everything to save her at all times. And I don't feel like he has that with Karen Allen. But that character doesn't have that.

The character is like, show me the arc. Show me the arc that had the tablets. That's what he wants. That's what he wants to fuck. He wants to fuck the arc. He doesn't want to fuck the girl. All right. How about Michelle Pfeiffer?

She's pretty young then, right? How old is she? She's greased too, Michelle's Pfeiffer. Post Scarface, right? Scarface, 83. What about... What about any... Anybody from Big Chill?

Like Joe Beth Williams? No, I had the other one. I don't know... Are you winning him? The Big Chill? No. She's insane. Almost fire.

Here's the one... Get your generational movies wrong. Sorry. Here's the one they should have picked. I don't... Not a bigger name than Karen Allen, but Margo Kidder, I think, would have been, would have had all the year for him. He looks so much like Karen Allen.

Yeah, I like Karen Allen. But you can't have Margo Cater because of the Superman 2 thing, but I think she could have been good as, as this. I just was never totally. What about Jeff Bridges as the romanticly? Jeff Bridges with a wig, I don't think so. Half a Saturday Research. Lucas got one million, between one million and four million plus a share of the gross profits, which turned out to basically fund everything he wanted to do for the next 40 years.

Spielberg. 1.5 million as director and a share of the gross profits. The Lucas thing is so funny because the threat has always been like George is going to go back and make his art films. And it's like he's never done it. He just like did three Star Wars movies that people have mixed feelings about and then sold that for like a bill. And has he made another movie? Is he done? I mean, he saw Red Tales to the Finish line.

That was one of his passion projects. But no, I mean, like I said, he's like, you pointed it out. He's amazing at putting people together. That's his skill. And Terabode shaving a correct beard. One of the worst beards of all time. I would say maybe even number one. Because of the neck part, but what's underneath the beard is the question?

We don't know. It's just so fucking weird. Just grow, put some more on your neck. The script described the opening of the arc as all hell breaks loose. And that was all they had. That's great. Special effects. I still feel like Kathleen Turner.

I don't feel like you guys see. I think you Rasillo no sold me on that one. This is your thing now where it's like, if anybody just blinks when you have a tape. She's better with Kathleen Turner. Okay. She's a bigger star. I would rather sit around the big screen.

And I'm just more into it. You guys got to keep things together for the time. You really got to patch it up. Whatever. Don't get mad. No, whatever. Okay, if you want me to engage with this, my number one draft pick for that would have been Winger.

I think Karen Allen's good. Winger would have been great. And then Kathleen Turner, it's almost like, I don't really know what to say because we just get that in romancing the stone. So what's the... Wait about this. Diane Keaton doing K from Godfather.

Bad lettered that in the first half hour. It was an abortion, Indy! Should I start doing Keaton in all of our pods? Yeah, that seems interesting. That line in particular. Every pot. Let's work in it off of them. Just do money ball again.

It was an abortion, Billy Bean. It was a no end. I would never bring something as unholy. as the arc. That was a great scene. Tunisia was used to portray Egypt. Everybody seems to agree this was maybe the worst filming experience

of all time. It was 130 degrees. Basically, the entire crew became sick with dysentery, including Harrison Ford. Spielberg did not get sick because he brought SpaghettiOs and just ate SpaghettiOs

and refused to eat the food. Absolutely genius. I can see Sean doing that. What an alpha. You can see just be all I'm doing is eating Mike and Ike Knikes. For an entire...

I'm not shitting myself all day. The scene when the monkey executed the hail Hitler's salute took 50 takes. Finally, they had a grape attached to a fishing line. Hell just out of reach so the camera could get him to salute. It was so hot in Tunisia that they ran out of stuntmen, which is how Frank Marshall ended up being the pilot. And they asked them to do it for a couple hours, but it was really for three days. And the cockpit was like 150 degrees. And he said he almost died.

So there you go. There's stock footage in this movie. They used the DC3 flying over the Himalayans was used from a movie called Lost Horizon. They used the 1930s street scene from a movie called the Hindenberg because they were just trying to save money to get to the $20 million.

Spielberg was obsessed with the post-1941 I need to save money. The canyon where indie threatens to blow up the arc is the same one where the Jawa's take on R2D 2 in Star Wars. That tells you how many times I've seen Star Wars. You're like, is this written right?

Tunisia is famously Tatouine, which is where Luke grows up. R2D2 and C3PO and the hieroglyphics It's like you're real Hungarian or something. He's the most famous robots in the history of movies. And in Doom, like, doesn't it like the Obi-Wan

theaters like in the background in Doom? Yes, that's a callback. R2D2? D-2? Indies, Bull Whip was sold in December 1999 at Christie's Auction House in London. Do you want to guess the price?

C.R. You bought it, right? So what did it go for? It was a private purchase for private use. No, I don't know. I'm $2 million. $43,000. This made me mad. What a deal? Well, because now at the NFT market, it would be much higher. Like, what the fuck? How does somebody not go to like 50? Let's call GEO from sports card nonsense.

I can believe that. The Jack and Hatter in the Smithsonian. Oh, the set of the Well of Souls was also the hotel room set where Jack Nicholson did all his writing and the Shining. Oh, my God. That blew my mind.

So that's the one Hap Fest internet research I wanted to mention was, so they shot this in the same stand stages where Kubrick worked a lot. Yeah. And Vivian Kubrick, his daughter, got very upset over the treatment of snakes

on the set. Oh, wow. And halted production on Raiders of Lost Ark for like multiple days to demand like handlers. I remember and she went on Twitter and was going nuts. Yeah, that's right.

She was like, thread. Some of you aren't ready for this conversation. About snakes and the scent of Rames of Lustark. I don't have a joke, by there. Asps, very dangerous. You go first. Ford did his own stunts, which every time we do one of these, I just love when the guy does his own stunts.

What does that mean, though? Because there's some stuff in this movie that, like... He did his own stunts. He bruised his wrist. ribs getting dragged behind the truck. He tore a knee ligament when the plane in the fight scene with the ball German

rolled over his left knee. The crew had to come in and lift the thing up. Unfortunately, he was in some sand, but he should have, like, crushed his leg. Do you think that Ford was, like, A.D., where he just, like, rolled around on the ground for a while,

like, grabbing his leg before he, like... So... No, I think he was more, like... I'm trying to think of what basketball players just playing with seven injuries all the time. I mean, Chris Paul has no car to, He's more like a Chris Paul. Like, I'm fine, and his shoulders

hanging off. When they're making this movie, Ford was 38, turning 39. Yeah. Which is the exact age I am right now. How much of this movie do you think you could do? Pre-pandemic. Let's give you, like, your pre-pandemic fitness levels. When I was really fit, you mean?

Well, like, before, like, you could go to the gym. I mean, none of it. That's the thing. It's like him swinging, holding onto a rope tied to a back of a truck. Yeah. This is some incredible late-state. career, physical world.

Great athlete. Great athlete. I think inspired Tom Cruise to ultimately break his ankle on this set of one of those Mission Impossible movies. Sean, when you're leaving today, I'm going to jump on the side of your car

go through the window. Punch you, push you out of the car. Shoot me in the arm first. I just want to try it. You could do, I mean, you talk like you can't make that happen for yourself. I'm too old.

Ten years ago, I think I could have done it. The fight between Indy and the German was largely improvised and Spielberg apparently was delirious coming up with more and more ideas for it and they had to rain him in because he was just... The mustache guy? Yeah, that guy. How was that guy getting shredded to pieces by a plane

in a PG movie? And how does he not feel the propeller? Because if you're looking at like the Exorcist is the far reaches of what they were willing to put up in a movie theater and they've got like the Reagan scenes in Mexico Exorcist, like getting shredded by propeller is like light work. We Need You as the head of the MPAA. I know.

You know, think of the absolutely depraved nonsense we can get in G-rated movies when you're in charge. They based Indy's outfit, flying jacket, and fedora on Charlton Heston's In Secret of the Inca's in 1954 movie. Deep cut. I never seen that one. Apex Mountain. Ford. I would say yes. It has to be yes, right?

Right. An Apex Mountain that lasts two decades. He's in the middle of the Star Wars trilogy. and then he has this, with Blade Runner coming, then that's it. We're off. He can do whatever movie

he wants after this. Regarding Henry? No. I don't know. Craig, do you know what regarding Henry was? No. Harrison Ford is like this asshole. Yeah.

But he gets shot in the head and becomes brain damage, but it makes him a nicer person. And for like a year, Premiere magazine was like regarding Henry is coming. This is going to be like the greatest film of all time.

It's like the hottest script. We're by a young man named J.J. Abrams. It's directed by Mike Nichols, right? Directed by Mike Nichols. And actually, it's based on what happened with CR. You can tell five minutes, I was a prick. Complete asshole. And then I shot him in the head.

He's been a sweetheart ever since. Karenow and Apex Mountain, yes. Denholm Elliott had trading places the following year. Pivotal role in that movie. That's a great 18 months. I don't know how we have. What do you think he did with all that clout he acquired from Raiders? and trading places.

I don't know. Not a lot. Did he buy the whip from the Indian Indian... Maybe he bought it. Boobitrap, Peruvian temples, definitely. Cairo. I mean, Cairo's probably had a couple

of other big moments. They've had some other accomplishments, yeah. How about this one? Nazis is movie villains. You just mentioned Marathon, man. That's a pretty good one. I was trying to think of what are the best victory comes out this year as well.

So we have victory and Raiders same year. And then also, like, they're not just like villains. They're like the other side of. War movies, so then they're, you know, like, Ray Fines and Schindler's lists, you know what I mean, or whatever. Inglorious bastards, that's a pretty great one. Yeah, that's good. Christoph Waltz. That's pretty good. I think I'll go, I mean, I think Valtz is better

than Tot, but, like, Nazis, it's just like, there's really, it's really satisfying to watch these guys get their fucking faces melted. Monkeys as comedy, movie, things that go badly. It's like the apex of it being bad. Yeah, I agree. Get the fucking monkeys out here.

Yeah. The monkeys aren't cute. Who are these four? Why is it like, who would ever be like, oh, this cool, this monkey's scratching at my face? You guys have a lot of monkey takes. Don't like monkeys. Me neither, actually. John Williams. So he's six years after Jaws.

He's on a real big run here, and then Raiders, and now it's like, John Williams is doing my movie. That's as good as he gets. Now? Do you mind if we look at his filmography quickly? Sure. Because I think he's done more than you even realize. Let's take a break while you look at the filmography, and we'll come. come back and you'll give us our answer.

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Bring a date, your squad, or even your mom. Book direct. at choiceotails.com. All right, we have our John Williams answer, and it seems like his apex just lasted for 50 years. I mean, you're going to go with Cinderella Liberty? He did the Poseidon Adventure. He did The Long Goodbye.

He did Sugar Land Express, Earthquake, Towering Inferno all in one year, Jaws, close encounters of the third kind. Superman? Superman was great. He did all of the Indian movies. He did Born on the Fourth of July. He did JFK. All right, so it's probably Super.

And Jurassic Park, too. I think Jurassic Park and Indy are over here. Superman is over here. Star Wars and Jaws are over here. Any other, I mean, we could do 40 Apex Mountains or we could just... Fedoras? Oh. Fedoras and a movie.

So, fedores, it's either this. It's either like literally when they were in style in the 30s and 40s or whatever. Then there's this movie and then there's the Swingers revival. Right. When you started wearing... Yeah, right. I think, like, being an American... man in the 1940s and 50s is

Apex Mountain for Fodorus. Okay, great. Picking Nits. I have a few. The dead Molina dummy is tough. Mm-hmm. It's not great. Indy taking 15 straight to the face punches

from the bald Nazi, barely a mark after, not great. Why didn't they just kill Indy seven points during the movie? Not great. Here's my biggest nitpick. Was Marion like John Paul bottom? Like, how does she drink like that? She was 120 pounds. I know. Just throwing down liquor?

Like, did she not have a liver? What was going on there? Do you have a friend like that who can just crush? Not like that. I've only seen that on like the challenge. And she's drinking like, like, like, mountain moonshine. Like, it's not like she's like, oh, this is like good, some fine scotch. She's drinking like. What are she in Belloc drinking? Aquavit or something? But it's like his, he's like, my family's vineyards. I don't really know. But it seems like it's some sort of like liquor or There are people like this, though, who can do this. Especially in the 30s. I mean, the Irish, we don't have to tout their virtues.

Yeah, I have some familiarity with people who drink like this. But they're usually just sloppier and more belligerent. She's just bouncing off her. She's pretty pissed off a lot, you know? Was she an alcoholic, you think, Chris? If we were going to do a 10- episodes of Netflix series, that's what I would make it about. I would get in the out. You turn into leaving Las Vegas or trauma?

Exactly. Intreamment. When a man loves a woman? Intreamen should do movie characters. That should be the new season of Intreatment. The indie becomes Andy Garcia and when a man loves a woman. My wife. I went through the garbage last night.

I found a couple bottles. I just heard drinking just flummox as me. What was your big pick in there, Chris? Well, I got two. One is, I just feel like everybody is underreacting to the fact that they found the Ark of the Covenant. I just feel like there's just like a lot of German guys standing around being like, what's in that box? Oh yeah, it's the Ark of the Covenant. You know what I mean?

Let's go listen to some jams over here or smoke a cigarette. So what do you want like you want people reacting like they just won the title in the NBA or like what kind of reaction is you want handshakes? High fives? I think it would just be like a little bit more like it turns out the Bible is real. Like would have been like a bigger deal? Oh, like surprise. Yeah. And then on the flip side, how does Indy know that closing your eyes spares you from

the ghost's coming out of it. That's the number one nitpick is what is closing your eyes meaningfully do? I mean obviously they're pure of heart. I think that's the thing is like if you're pure of heart like spares you I guess, right? Because the Nazi symbol gets melted off the box.

So why close your eyes? Maybe he got bad info. I don't know. I would have had her close her eyes and melt like everybody else. I told you not to close your eyes. I have a picking. No, I'm single.

Who's handling snake maintenance in that tomb? How are they eating? How are they surviving? Well, they're coming in and out. From where? From the thing that he sees them coming in and out. Right?

But where are they coming from? They're in the desert. Yeah. I don't know how do snakes usually live. What do they eat? Not sand. Doesn't that seem strange to you that there are thousands of snakes? Maybe they're living on dates and monkey carcasses.

I guess. Did Hitler really love the occult this much? Or did they just shoehorn that in? Sean? No, I just, I didn't know. I literally was like, let's go to our Hitler expert, Chris Ryan, was in the back of my mind and CR just jumped right in front of me. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't care to know. Apparently, he had like a fascination with this stuff and then the movie capitalized on that. But like, did the audience even know that? The thing is, is that like there's been so many movies where Hitler plays a part that I never know whether or not. It's just like, yeah, Hitler loved the occult. Yeah, I'm just like for sure. Jeff Bridges guy, Hitler. He hated Karen Allen.

Yeah, it does seem like if Hitler was a character in your movie, you could basically ascribe. any sort of awful characteristics, then the audience just can be like, of course. Yeah, that's a good point. He loved the occult. It's very believable in the movie. It's like, in bastards,

he's, like, obsessed with the movies, right? Right. I don't think that we totally get a sense, though, of, like, what it is he's going to do with the arc. Like, they clearly have miscalculated here. I think it's like, if you, uh, the arc being found is supposed to signal like a Messiah rising.

And so he's like, if I find the arc, that means I'm the Messiah, it's great PR. So what was Belloc doing in the desert then trying to, what was he trying to channel? What were they, why open it? I think Belloc, It was like going half and half there where he's like maybe this works out better for me.

And Colonel Dietrich was like, sure, open that box. Well, because he tells him, he's like, if we get to Berlin and there's a bunch of sand in here, your guy's going to be pretty disappointed. Really backfired. Yeah. Could this be remade as a 10-episode Netflix show? Karen's alcoholism, basically.

That's the direction you go. I mean, they did make a Young Indiana Jones TV series. Who was the star of that? Was there something that became famous? Well, River Phoenix is the star of Last Crusade. Of the prologue and Last Crusade. I don't remember. By the way, that was awesome.

That was an awesome casting. I was so fired up when they did that. Sean Patrick Flannery was Indiana Jones. Sean. Probably in answerable questions. We've got a couple already. More details on Marion's bar. I think she was breaking even on that thing?

It seems like more of a barter situation, you know? Did they have like video poker there? Big business for her. Nepal. Cigarette machine. So like cheers. Did she show the champions lead? Yeah, what was going on?

What was the TV situation? Who was the norm of that bar? Why didn't Bellox Head exploding become the go-to exploding head reference? Scanners. And not Scanners. But this movie was way bigger than Scanners.

Yeah, but that's that that head explosion is just way more satisfying. Because they do the fire in front of Belloc's face. Because it was too graphic. Yeah, to keep the rating. The face melting even to this day, because people will be like, Oh my God, Dame Willie melted my face last night. But if you put Tots face melting, it's like, it's pretty graphic. You don't want to tweet that out too often.

It's true. Yeah. Precursor for Poultergeist, too, when he pulls his face off. I love that part. I love anything with faces melting, skin big getting pulled off, always works in a movie. It's pretty disturbing when I was like five years old. I saw it, though. Yeah, that's fair.

Unanswerable question. This movie's worse with Tom Selle. But is it that much worse? Is it still a $330 million movie? It's such an interesting one. I don't know. Because Tom Selleck, like you said, he goes on to be really successful. Because we're discovering Tom Selleck in the movie, right?

We don't really have a background. We're pretty much discovering, well, Ford's Han, so I guess that's not true. We're discovering he can... Would it be better or worse if we put Gutenberg in the chair? What if Gutenberg had the bullwit? Would that work for you, Chris? Gutenberg, I think, was that's when we start losing money. Does E.T. happen without this movie?

The odds are no, because Spielberg had an idea for a movie, and Melissa Mattson, who's Harrison Ford's girlfriend at the time, or wife, wife, it's Billberg's, I had this idea for a movie

and they start collaborating on ET on the set, which if this had been Kaufman as the director, we probably don't have E.T. Wow. This is a big one. Would you call it a man purse

that Indy had or would you call it a satchel? Satchel. So you go satchel. Technically a man purse. I mean, he's got important items. Why don't you have a satchel, Chris? I mean, I have a bag that my stuff is in.

I have one. Do you want me to have like a... Yeah, I call that my little girly man bag? Do you want me to have like a bike messenger bag that I always work? You're a fanny pack guy, Chris. Right? All right, here's another one. Is Bill?

Indiana Jones, archaeologists or just looter? Well, this is the thing. That's one of the things that's age of the worst is like, you know, they got the British Museum returning artifacts. Like, the tide is changing on museums. It was... The tide was changing. even in the moment, the archaeologist community

led by Winiford Kramer. One of the greats. I always enjoyed Winifred's work. Obviously, try to cape up off of it, the Raiders of Lost Arc popularity, Winiford trying to get his name in the papers, right? So he said, quote, Indiana Jones,

the worst thing to happen to archaeology and, quote, walks a fine line between what's an archaeologist. Oh, because you get all of jack-offs who are like, I want to be an archaeologist if that means they get to wear this hat. to rob some a wear a

ferdora while I rob some tomb. Yeah. Imagine being an archaeology professor after this movie came out and all the clowns who enrolled in your class.

Oh my gosh. Archaeology is really boring. Dude's walking into your room with like a whip. When do I get to use this fucking thing? What piece? Do you have any other

unanswerable questions? It's unclear why they keep like everybody wants to give Marion a different outfit to wear in this movie. I feel like that happens multiple times.

That's a good point. There was a thing about like they really wanted to get her into a white dress, but they have to get her out of like... Yeah, she does get dressed a few times for no reason. Belloc have a white dress in the middle of a desert on a gate. And Katanga's just got like a slip and he's like,

you might want to like rock this. I wonder if he's just used to like scooping up women on islands and putting them in a slip on his pirate ship. But that is pretty weird. Yeah. Pretty weird. Also, it's, I always laughed when you rewatch it. Sala is like really non-plus that Marion's dead the first time around

when they think she's dead. He's just like tough beat. you know? Right. There is dead. Yes, I know. I'm sorry. You'll date again.

Yeah. This is related to the bigger indie question, but like, what is actually motivating Indiana Jones? Because it's not necessarily money. Certainly he likes going on the quest. But once he gets his hand on the item, he donates it to the museum. Yeah. And then what? Is it just that he's become an internationally renowned,

figure, like basically thief, culture thief? So it would be like if you won the NBA title, but you just skipped the final ceremony and you were just like, I'll see you guys later. I'm getting ready for the next season. You don't even like celebrate it. But also kind of skipped game seven? Yeah. And you're like, my team's got it.

Like what? So it's not money. It's this weird perverted version of fame. I think it's like, I mean, they talk a lot about like being part of history. And this movie, like, I think Belloc says that to him. It's like, this is what we always dreamed of is just like to hold history like this. Yeah, probably

This movie definitely doesn't need to be longer But it probably needs like a 90-second scene Of him explaining why this means so much to him Well, in Last Crusade they kind of sort of get into it About the way he was raised Hitler not getting the Ark of the Covenant Is like the main goal Yes, but like the Peruvian Idol for example

Like why does that piece of history matter to him? We don't know I don't know He's just like... Is he trying to sell it? No, I mean it's like supposed to be on display in the museum Yeah Wherever he's a teacher

Is it Princeton supposed to be Princeton I'm not sure what school it is, but why would a professor of archaeology want to steal an idol from an ancient temple and bring it to a museum? It belongs in the temple. He's a white guy in 1935. Good point. There's a lot. I stayed away from it, but there's a lot of stuff on the internet about this and the fact that he's named Indiana and Indiana was one of the states. We don't need to go to that in that rabbit hall.

What piece of memorabilia would you want from this movie? I love Katanga's turtleneck I think I would go white turtleneck Yeah Would you want the actual arc That the fake arc

That they built Oh I mean it seems like It would take up a lot of room Maybe it's like a coffee table though Yeah Just check out this gold coffee table I have Hey you got to use a coaster on that That's the actual arc from Raiders

The Lost Ark Don't get your ice coffee on that please Don't spill any macho my arc. Would you want the power of God? Power God would be cool. I thought the medallion would be cool. That's how we should end the rewatchables

is we open the arc and we see who gets out alive. It's pure of heart. It'll be Craig. I thought Indie's satchet would be cool. I thought the bullwip would be cool. But I think the fedora is the answer.

I'd like to park that boulder right in my driveway. That big boulder. And whenever I come over just roll it into my house. What do you want? The boulder? That's it? I just want to see one photo.

of Jeff Bridges is Indiana Jones. You know, what could have been? Fedora, Bullwip, or Satchel, if you had to pick one of those three? Satchel's the most functional, I think. Because Fadora, you just get laughed out of a bar, you know? Satchel, most people, I'd like to take the fedora for a ride. Who won the movie? Ford.

I think. I think Spielberg. Because I think this is when Spielberg is like, I am actually the king of Hollywood. But he made Jaws. Yeah, but he took an L on 1941, and then he was like, not only are you paying me one and a half million, but I get profit participation on this film and every other movie I make from henceforth.

Are you going to zag and go Lucas? And he killed the Nazis. And he killed the Nazis. I thought this was a really tough one. But it should be tough because this is one of the greatest movies of all time. We should have a really tough who won the movie. It's Ford and Spielberg in the finals.

I think it has to be Spielberg because when you throw in the ET part that as he's making this movie, he's also developing ET with 40. wife kind of trumps and Ford and his wife got divorced you got to factor that in Spielberg ends up getting more um out of the whole relationship he caused the divorce no but he got et out of Ford's wife but I just feel like the combo of that makes it and also he resuscitated a career that for whatever reason in 1979 um became questioned they wondered this fucking guy can't make a movie

where he's not completely over budget and he's kind of lost the steering wheel He made movies in the 80s and early 90s, always hook, color purples, got a very much reception that are not great. Yeah, always is bad. But this is the movie that made him bulletproof. You know, this is the one that... I think it starts like a 20-year run for Ford. I think Ford's almost like underrated at this point.

I'll tell you, he didn't win the movie, Jeff Bridges. No. I've been thinking about it. It's not Kathleen Turner. It's Sean Young, I think, is really, it would have been the move. and she had only been in Stripes at that point Stripes is before this same year right

wow that would have been the all-time year Stripes and Raiders we have to do no way out at some point just so we can give Sean Young the Dionne Waiters award It is an all-time Is no way out an in-person for watchables?

No I'm curious It's not like what's good Because we've done Raiders and Goodfellows in person I'm kind of curious for you like what warrants in person for you Well those are two good

choices. Yeah, they were great. Absolutely. Sean Young would have been good. I think you're right. I think that might have been the best one for recast and catch. You know, she can go toe to toe with him and like snipe back at him and punch him. So does she not in Blade Runner?

I don't know. They're great together in Blade Runner. I have. That's a pretty good one. Who won the movie, Craig? Ford. Thanks, Craig. People, I mean, if you become like a Halloween character that people wear for like the next 40 years and kids would still like,

be into Indiana Jones today. He's a Disney ride. You got your stubble because Indiana Jones, right? Look at me, yeah. Spit an image. Yeah. You've been stealing idols

around the world for years because of Indy. Yeah. I'll tell you what didn't win the movie, Tunisia. Maybe not whenever go there. It sounds 130 degrees.

Sounds awful. Yeah. I can't imagine it's gotten cooler there either. Yikes. All right. There's the last time. It was good to see you guys.

See you guys. See you later, Tunisia. Bye, Tunisia. Bye, bye, everybody. We'll be back next week. Know the rewatchables. See you then.

All right, that's it for the rewatchables for this week. I don't know what's happening next week with the movie, but I promise it's going to be a good one. I promise. You have my word. It won't be as great of a movie as Raiders of the Lost Ark. Let's be honest, but it'll be really good.

The producer of this podcast was Craig Horlebeck, who's a wonderful person. One of my favorites. We will see you next week on The Rwatchers.