The Rewatchables - ‘Species’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan are just a couple of empaths looking for a killer alien seductress in Los Angeles as they revisit the 1995 science fiction horror film ‘Species,’ starring Natasha Henstridge, Michael Madsen, Ben Kingsley, and Forest Whitaker. Book your next business trip at holidayinn.com Producers: Craig Horlbeck, Ronak Nair, and Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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by the Bringer the podcast network where you can find the watch with CR Is this your Madsen imitation Some big pig too I'm doing

Brad Pitt F1 I'm just talking Yeah I am on the watch On the big picture Van Lathan Higher Learning Yeah

Red Northwest Dubu We were gonna do an incredible movie that came out 30 years ago that I saw in the theater Yeah

Yeah And I don't know Why it wasn't a bigger thing Maybe it is Maybe it is a thing. We're going to find out species is next. We now have a new sequence of DNA with instructions on how to combine it with ours.

They don't know how to fight her. You created a monster. Now you want us to hunt it down and kill it. They don't know how to kill her. We decided to make it females so that it would be more controllable. One control of them. I guess you guys don't get out much. They only know if they fail.

We got to get to her before she gives birth. It's the end of us all. Species rated R. Starts Friday, July 7th. This episode of The Rewatchable is presented by Holiday Inn by IHG. It's a new day for a new stay at Holiday Inn for business travelers. Do you kind of as a business traveler, Sean? Sure, sometimes.

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Sonny. Michael Madsen passed away, and we had to do a Michael Manson movie. And you thought it was going to be Donnie Brasco? I asked, yes. And I was like, no. Yep. It's going to be species. He's fucking awesome in Species.

Listeners know that's how things work. And you were excited. Yeah. You was excited. Yeah. You was like, Go, no.

Species. Well, Species was weirdly on the summer list anyway because I just bought it on 4K Blu-ray. Spectacular. What's the collection at now? That's how the show works.

Well, Amazon just had this great deal. Tell me that. I was Sam Presting, just second round picks off Amazon. All right. This is my favorite Matt's performance other than true romance. I have it number two.

I just love that. Really? Over reservoir. He has no part in this movie. It's like, ah, he's a hired government guy. But he's just all charisma and cool. And it's like, yeah, of course he's going to fuck Mark Heldenberger. It's going to happen.

Yeah, of course. He never, I can't remember him ever trying this again. Trying to be the smooth, centerly guy. He's one of those guys that comes in and just injects cool into a movie. But he's always so. But in this one, he's got to. do his thing a little bit. And he's almost playing a straight man,

which he didn't really do as much. It's like an Alec Baldwin part. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he said that of like all, he made a lot of movies. He made a lot of movies for a lot of paychecks.

But he was like, I liked species because I got to play a good guy. Yeah. And the movie like stands up. It kind of holds up. And he's great in it. He is this like like kind of Humphrey Bogart figure. Right.

In the middle of this team. And he just has like that ineffable cool that is just, you saw it in dogs. You see it. and true when I'm romancing, you see it here. That's what it is. He's playing a good guy. He's playing a cool, good guy. Like a no-shit straight shooter.

Yeah. That's kind of like every time they're hymn and hon about something, he goes, no, this is the truth. And that's kind of awesome. But like with a little bit of a wink and a sense of humor, he's tall, he's big. Like a lot of this Hollywood guys, probably like 6162. His 90s, you know, he's ripping off Thelman Louise. He's memorable in that. He plays a porn star in the doors.

I don't know how I feel about the doors. Love it. The getaway. Wyatt Earp. Reservoir was like his most famous one. And it really goes through species and then Donnie Brasco in 97. And then his IMDB just becomes paycheck after paycheck. Yeah.

Including species too, which he hated. Yeah. But he has this like seven, eight year run here. Not sure why he wasn't a bigger deal. I'm sure he had some off the set issues that probably weren't helping him. But I think that thing that stands out for me with him is he feels like a 1940s or 50s actor. Absolutely. Time machine.

Like he should be with China like fuck Ava Gardner in like 1949. Well, you know that we talked about this before, but like up into a certain point and when you're watching Hollywood movies, maybe even through the 80s and 90s, you would watch these guys and there are definitely like a group of them where you would be like, I could see this dude doing something else but acting besides acting. Right. Like Harrison Ford was like a carpenter or whatever. You know, it was like, you could see guys, you'd be like, I bet this dude had another job before he became Sam Elliott or Ed Harris. Right.

And then when you see Mattson, he's kind of like that. You can be like, oh, I could see this guy being like, bartending at a pool hall. Right. Before he became an actor. Now, he worked at Steppenwolf. He came up through the theater. That might not be the reality.

But he has, like, lived experience that he transmits through his performances, which I think is like the best thing. Like an every guy type of deal. Also in the 90s for him, a lot of his roles, to me, intersected with roles that Travolta was getting. Crucially. Yeah.

Like, you know, obviously he comes, he is in We're Zvore Dogs and Travolta's Vince Vega, those characters related or whatever. But when you think about it, you could see him as Chili Palmer. Yeah. You could see him in a lot of those roles. He'd been good in face off.

Would have been good in face off, stuff like that. So there was kind of somebody on his corner a little bit. The move in retrospect, after like 97, He should have just done like a CSI type show. He just banked, bank TV money for 10 years. There's moments with Marge Holgerger

where you're like, oh, like he could have had the William Peterson run here. You know what I mean? Or he just could have had a show with her. That's what I mean. They had such good chemistry. I'm like I just would have watched this way. She's on CSI with Pearson, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. She was dialing up in this little sexy turn. Listen, she. We'll get to that. This was a... She played a hooker with a heart of gold in China Beach. Right. A show only CR and I watch.

I fucking love China Beach. Oh, the Michael McDonald ending? Oh, yeah. Is it finale? One of the great Michael McDonald's mom and summer. China Beach had the sickest opening credits. Was this the weird ass? Like, it's Vietnam.

It's Dana Delaney and she's a nurse at like a hospital or doctor at a hospital. The Vietnam War? Yeah. Good looking women in China Beach. Dana Delaney, Marge. Yeah, but it ended. They all went, it moved into the future like 20 plus years later. And they all went to the wall to see the names and see the people that some of them

whom have died. And Michael McDonald's, you can let go now, started playing. and it's like one of the most emotional moments in the 80s. Like, hands down. Not online, by the way. I've looked for it over and over again. I'm like, when is this going to be online? Never, apparently.

The China Beach is not on streaming. One of my favorite things about you is when you recount some emotional moment from an 80s TV show and it's like, is Bill going to cry right now? You were touched by that. I really was. I was by my, we were visiting my parents in Nantucket because they'd rented this house. And they were out shopping and China Beach was on. And for some reason, I was just watching it.

And all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like that. And they came home. And I'm like, hey, guys. It's like, what are you going on? What are you thinking about, Bill? P-O-W? Yeah. Just being a lot more.

It was really rough, man. No, but that show that I think there was too much music in it. Oh. Oh, like, yeah. It was like a great music guy. Same reason why I can't get all of my favorite MTV stuff anymore. No more real worlds. No more like MTV.

All the Fox shows. All that stuff. Because there's too much music. Yeah. That was why homicide. I took a long time to get to streaming, I think,

because of the music. Well, the cast in this, before we get to introducing dot, dot, dot, dot. The cast in this because the producer

won in species, they wanted to spend that $35 million dollar budget, spend basically all of it on the alien and the effects. So they go kind of mid-market

on the stars. They're like, we don't need Tribote, we'll get Madsen. They're just basically doing the same Presti. And they end up with two Oscar winners.

They get Ben Kingsley, already won, and the Forrest Whitaker who hadn't won yet. They get Madsen. They get Marge. Marge or Marg? I never...

You know what? I honestly, I've never said it out loud. I think it's Marge. I'm going to say, let's go with Marge and we apologize. And then our guy, Alfred Molina,

who's two years later throwing firecrackers and Thirk Diggler and Reed Bradchild. Yeah. But they just kind of patch it together. And it's a... I saw this in the theater,

and I was like, inject this in my veins. Yeah. So, I know, we're waiting. You go ahead. It's such a sneaky, devastatingly good cast. The movie is casted so seriously with all of these serious actors. Yeah.

But I did not go to see the movie in theaters because of that. I went to see the movie in theaters because there was all this talk. Because you care about SETI and life on intelligent life on earth. Yeah, the clean energy, which is a like what happens if alien intelligence goes bad. Of course. I cared about the philosophical ramifications. No. You cared about minute 16.

We went all together as like, we went to see it because she was naked in it. And that was the reason that got, I'm just being for real. Should we do like a fake Ken Burns documentary about people going to see species in theater? I think I soloed. I could be Shelby foot. I might have been the only alone person in the theater. Bam went with a community and Bill went alone, but we all went. We all went to watch Natasha.

We're all there for one reason. Yeah, listen, Craig, did you know what this movie was? No. So basically the synopsis is, what if I told you they made an alien movie, but the alien was a hot, horny blonde who wanted to find a mate. I just think people are going to be like, I'm going to give this one a chance. There's a certain demo in the streaming universe, they're like, I'm going to give this a world.

And by the way, it's on a lot of different streamers. Yes. This is easy to find. But nobody knew who knows. Natasha Hentridge was. It was her first movie. Natasha Hensridge, yeah. And this was like,

we need to cast somebody who's really good looking and they succeeded. Yes. Before we get to Natasha, I just want to say that one of my favorite subgenres of the 90s

is, I think it's like, I'll call it scientist fiction. So it's a little bit sci-fi, a little bit adventuring, but Congo, outbreak, sneakers, sphere, species mimic

Crichton in it up Yeah get a little critin in your life And just like always has these really good ensembles And that has like a little bit of like What would happen if there was a great big epidemic Or what would happen if you know We found something in the bottom of the ocean That might be a portal to another universe all this stuff

And it's they just made they executed it's on such a high level Do you put like event horizon in there A little bit closer to space horror But I think I think intention, but the intention was to make it like that. Right. I completely believe the premise of this. Okay.

Completely. Ironically. That's fucking hilarious, bro. Like, the premise in his movie is so fucking wacky. When Kingsley lays it out, I'm like, yeah. They had some signals. They kind of tricked us. Yeah, right.

And they wanted us to take their code and merge it with a human. fell for it. I was like, yeah, maybe. I could see some people in Trump's cabinet falling for that one right now. Let's be honest. It's like, hey, press. Good news. The aliens have reached out. They just want

to merge our DNA. Is that cool? Yeah. I can see Hexeth definitely getting caught with his email. Whoa, are you serious? She wants to do what? Merge humans. She would get to Hexon. Yeah. He likes the party.

Well, they decided to make the alien attractive. Natasha was a Canadian model who had never acted before. And then I gotta say, I bought season tickets. I thought there was gonna be

a big career head. Didn't quite happen. This ended up basically becoming the most... She made a couple of species movies. She was in... She hung around. But not in the way...

Flirted with TV a little bit. Not in the way, I felt like it was going to happen for her. She's just perfect in this. Or you think of Sharon Stone or something? I don't know. She was definitely felt like a movie star. Yeah.

Right? It's like she had a present. She had a charisma. And there's this whole alternate version of this movie that we'll talk about where it's like her just kind of moving around L.A. could have gone on for two days. That could have been like Kung Fu. Yeah. That could have just been a TV show.

It's always compelling to me when alien from another planet or whatever being is dropped into a major metropolis and has to like figure their way out. Like get a hotel room, buy clothes. Figure out money, figure out directions, talk to people, understand culture. The hotel room TV. All of that stuff. But it is always much more appealing when that alien is drop dead gorgeous. Right. Because you're looking like, oh, my God, are people not paying attention to her?

How is she going to blend in and all of that? Let's go to the parties. Did you waive the five-year waiting period for the White Girl Hall of Fame and just induct her immediately? How did that work? She's a founding member. She's going back to 95. For five years. It's funny.

When I cued the movie up to watch it, I was like, I wonder how, because you see her the whole nine yards, she is uncommonly devastatingly beautiful. Like, but in a very white way. Sometimes people are, sometimes they... A tall way, Canadian way? Yeah, sometimes I don't like them like that. I like them a little, you know, with my white girl Hall of Fame. You know, I put Alexis, Texas in my shit.

So like I is so so but like she is like devastatingly gorgeous in like a really timeless way which you She's Nordic she's Nordic right feels Nordic which normally is not my thing but yeah when I look while Cued the movie back on like whoa she's still yeah like she if if just like some prince had just married her three years later and she just became like the queen of Scotland it would have made sense Or like, if Quizzy Joe got to her. Or Pete Sampras. Yeah. It's just like, oh, Pete Sampras is Woody Wibleton.

There's his girlfriend, Natasha Hensh. Exactly. She's just in the box cheering him on next to Lady Die. Yeah. I don't know why more stuff didn't happen with her. Maybe she wasn't a very good actor. Her acting didn't really matter in this movie. The other thing that's kind of cool about her in this movie is if whether you're alone in the theater or with the crew, like, it confronts you with some.

images that you may not consider erotic on first pass, but then find yourself kind of being like, am I kind of into this? Am I kind of into this naked lady popping out of an alien cocoon? Naked covered in petroleum. The part where you know the guys are the search terms that we don't have anymore, you know what I mean? You know she's going to kill the guy,

and she looks at him, and she goes, I want a baby. And you're like, I would give you one. Yeah. Okay. All right. It is quite a performance. On the flip side, I think we have to, I created a new award that I'm just going to do now.

The Ben Kingsley and Species Award for, it doesn't seem like you really want to be here. No. We've seen this before. I don't know how we've done almost 400 movies and this hasn't been a category yet, but I think he just regretted being in this from the get-go and never really broke out of it. He didn't love his time on the same. Was not surprised to find that out in the research. And I think he was probably in that zone of middle-aged English actor who was like kind of in the Michael Cain zone.

You know, where you're like, I can do this in my sleep. I've won an Oscar before, but I guess now here's where my career is going. One single tier as I execute the young sill. But like other than that, I just tell me I have to run down this all way. He's on autopilot the whole time. He's also an interesting guy. Like, he's made some movies. What's that guy that's known as the worst director of all time?

Ewey Bowler. He was in one of his movies and apparently Blood Rain, something like that. Yeah, the way it worked out was that like Ben Kingsley was near where they were shooting or something that somebody got in touch with me. They found it out some kind of way. It was like, yo, we'll give you $75,000

to come over here and act for one day. Then they put him on a cover of the DVD. So Ben, you'll take a check to go and add some credibility to a film. And every five years or so, he would do like, he would just be in sexy beast and you're like, oh, you're the best actor in the world. Right. He does his thing.

Sean does that with Blu-ray extras. He's the Ben Kingsley of Blu-ray Extra interviews. If you cut the check, Sean will show up. What are we doing? Can't Buy Me Love? Directors commentary. Oh, it's a great movie, man. So Madsen.

I love that movie. You like that? Madsen. Appreciate it. Have we done Camp Ami Love, Craig? Yes, yeah. Yeah. I thought we did.

Might have been during that COVID year. I don't remember. Carrillo, but we did care about it. Or on for October. we're saying we gotta save some stuff still saving this I guess we're gonna work together forever because I'm not leaving you

until you do scar I gotta hold some stuff over you Matt's and has lines in this movie like I'm Preston Lennox and if I'm here the shit has definitely hit the fan It's good

solid I also like when I'm a freelance solution to our government's problems Always fun when somebody has that job I feel like that would have been your job if you could have written yourself a part in an action movie. That's one of the problems.

The rogue. Yeah, too many guys are just like, yeah, I work for the government. Tomy's about to copulate with a creature for matter space. Like, these are bad lines, and he's ripping them off and unbelieving. Yeah, he can just put like a little bit of hot sauce on anything where he's just like, when they're like, we made her female so that she would be more docile. And he was like, you guys don't get out much. On the math and tip.

When he passed away, it was. evident to me when I thought about it is like he was just a cool actor that I knew that if he was in a movie some cool shit was going to happen like him and the getaway him and Reservoir Dogs and all that and who are the cool actors now

who would like the cool guys like cool like just cool I'm not talking about dudes that you know like the way Sysmore was like that too who could open a movie or do whatever I'm not talking about that I'm talking about just like this guy's cool you know the movie's gonna have a little something to it he's going to bring a little something to it.

Some sauce. Some sauce. Like, are all those guys going and have they not your place? I feel like Bernthal was like this for a while, but then he kind of graduated. Yeah. Yeah. But Bernthal was this guy for a while. Burnthal had that authenticity.

I think Ebbemoss Backerack has that a little bit. A little bit. But. It's about to go pro with the fantastic forest. About to go pro a little bit he had it. I thought, was that whole, our guy. Yeah. No?

Yeah. But it's, yes, definitely cool. Definitely has that, like, authentic feel. Gagons a little bit. Gagins is one. Gagins is definitely one. Gagins is definitely one. Part of it is, I don't know if they're making the movies anymore.

Yeah, I was thinking there has to be some sort of checklist where the guy, could you have pulled off being one of the bad guys in a fast and furious movie? Could you... Can you be the asshole in a heist movie? Can you play Could you be De Niro and Kilmer's Third Guy in Heat? There's these things you kind of have to be able to

Do Or like could you be Wingro? Yeah Could you be Wingro? Right That's a good one Yeah so like those guys Those movies that were made

Those kind of scuzzy street level films Actually you know who's kind of One of those dudes now In a weird way Girard Butler almost has become that But he might be a little too leading man Pablo's might be like that, Pablo Schreiber. Sure, just like, I'd love to see him get more work in those kinds of movies.

So maybe part of it is like, would Tarantino in the mid-90s have been dying to put you in one of his movies? Right. I definitely think some of the guys we just mentioned would have been. I mean, Gaggins was in a Tarantino movie once, you know what I mean, at a certain point. Can we do Madsen versus Seismore? Because I feel like you have to, you have to be on one team or the other. Are you a Madsen guy or a Seismore guy? I think filmography-wise, it's Seismore.

No, what does CR want? What are you most excited? Like, who's your guy? If you're cast in a movie, then you could do the fantasy team, and you're doing like a heist movie or whatever. Who's your, are you calling? Size more.

Size more. I think I'm a Seismore guy, too, but it's close. So I'll tell you why I'm going to take Madsen. Okay. I think Madsen can do everything that Seismore can do, but there are a couple of things. that I think. Seismore can't do that Mads can do.

That Madsen could do. Yeah, the slightly, there's something charming. You might feel like he can lay the girl. A little bit more like leading man. It can be oriented around me. A little bit more. I can get the girl, like you said, type shit. Madsen has a little bit more of that.

Madsen also, there's a bunch of parts in the 90s. I think he could have played that. I don't know if I would have bought Seismore. Like Madsen could have been the Michael Douglas' basic instinct part. I totally could have seen him a shooter. Imagine Madsen reacts and you're Roxy. Interesting. Because I wouldn't see Seismore in that role.

You know what I mean? The only thing about Shooter is shooter. Shooter had to be somebody that looked clean cut but had a dark side. That's Madsen. When you see Madsen, to me, you see the dark side a little bit. Yeah. Right. But you're bringing your off-screen baggage to that.

Maybe you know the stories. saw him like five years ago, Amelba, eating breakfast, and he was there, he was dressed in a leather jacket. It was like 80 degrees outside, eating with one of his kids.

And I took a, I took a picture of his back and sent it to CR. I don't know if you remember the CR. I do. Yeah. It's like, Madsen,

having breakfast. Well, the idea of you out there patping people. Yeah. It's like, one of the only times I've ever done,

I was like, I got to get this. Did you go? Did you talk to him? No, I chickened out. I should have. I never like talking to celebrity. He's really good,

As far as late period, him goes, like, he's really good and hatefully. He's awesome and killed Bill Part 2. Yeah. Yeah, it's fantastic. He still had it, but, like, obviously, had a lot of, like, off-screen stuff. And, yeah, but there's, like, that, there's the turning point in his career is, essentially he's supposed to do Pult. Right? And doesn't.

To be in something. I think he committed to something. He was in Dottie Brasco. But that was later. There was some other movie. Yeah. Was it? Yeah, there was some reason he's not in it.

But, like, you wonder whether or not if he's in Pulp Fiction. Does he get four of those Tramolta movies? Yeah. Yeah. Unless, I mean, you know, sometimes a role aligns with an actor. Sure.

I mean, that was like reviving Trilta. Certainly, yeah. The Ben Kingsleyan species is a word. It doesn't really seem like you wanted to be in this movie. I'd love to, we've got to think about this. Like, who's the all-time version of that in a movie that we like?

We don't have to do this now, but the next. Roy Shider and Jaws 2. That was a good one. I do. 35 million dollar budget made $113.3 million. Be hit. Yeah. Species.

Roger Ebert. Two stars. I would have thought he would have enjoyed the nudity. Yeah. Mainstream Hollywood is so terrified of intelligent human characters that it's no wonder they don't want aliens who are even smarter than the humans. It just goes on and on talking about what were they trying to do. He's told us that whole story when she asks, who am I, what am I?

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Find your season at experience gr.com. All right, most rewatchable scene. Michelle Williams, young Michelle Williams, escaping in the glass hole. They're trying to gas her out. Yeah. She won't have it. Gets out of there.

I like how this movie starts. You're like in immediately. It's good. Yeah, it gives you no chance to just, here's the focal point, up against it, gonna eat everything alien escape crack some necks we're out of here let's go yeah there's no like four minute people walking in a long hallway being like we have to do it today it's a if you're

gonna make a be movie just make it a be movie and start the movie you know you know i don't need a preamble i don't need like a flashback i don't need five years ago scientists telling you how important research is seti bang michelle williams in a cage let's go right do we do the uh are we sure this guy was good at her. What's that a word? That is my flex. Oh, all right. I'll save it for you, CR. Next rewatchable. Was it really?

I swear to, yeah. I can probably come up with another flex. I can come up with another one too. Next rewatchable. Fitch has his crew and lays out what happened with the alien. Good exposition. Yeah.

Two minutes. You just get it. We decided to make it female so it would be more docile and controllable. Press goes, more dacile and controllable, eh? You guys don't get out much. We decided to make it female so that it would be more docile.

and controllable. More docile and controllable. I guess you guys don't get out much. That's the trailer line. You ever wish you were invited to a random meeting where it's just like, I'm a biologist, I'm an anthropologist, I'm a killer, and Bill's like, I'm a podcaster.

It's just like, great, you're going to meet. We're getting more into video. Yeah. Yeah, the team was an anthropologist, a molecular biologist, a black ops mercenary, and Empath. And I don't know at what point

do you want to talk about whatever force Whitaker's doing in this movie. We can do it later. We'll save it. Yeah. Okay.

So Madsen says, I think this is a search and destroy operation. It's like, yeah, we get it. Search and destroy operation, just so we know, they send one person who knows how to fight.

And three losers. And three egg heads. We're going to give out the area. Including an empath who gets freaked out if somebody's ordering in coffee. It's like, oh, that's the cat.

That's the cat. No, he would be like, someone wanted coffee here. She's afraid. It's honestly like that SNL sketch with Christopher Walk and Trivial Psychic. You're going to have an ice cream. You're going to get an ice cream headache. Fitch almost lets Marge and Madsen die in the lab. In the burn room, yeah.

A lot of questions about this one. Why they're going to just open the door quick, let them out? And then Madsen's not mad at all. but it's a really fun scene. All right, here we go. I'll just read what I wrote down. Natasha goes to the club, kills a bitch at the id,

takes her shirt off, goes to a Hollywood Hills house, and kills somebody by French kissing them through the back of their neck. And then that guy looks like Nick Wright. He does. He looks exactly like Nick Wright. This movie would have been amazing

if that dude was like Jim, Rome. Right. And he was just like driving her home and was just like, yeah, what do you know about Luke Robatine? He's talking about MJ. I still feel like there's a guy who's going to come that's going to be greater than him. I still feel like there's some holes.

She's like, I want your baby. He does look like Nick Wright. He does. And he's got a nice crib. He's probably so he probably is. Yeah. That arrow's Nick right. Snapping his fingers, turning the lights on. She gives a she first she the girl that she ends up killing in the bathroom

nothing better than a good club murder in the bathroom where they find the body like two minutes later and she went the hard way she went like into a service entrance and threw the fucking tile wall yeah she was I feel like that woman died for nothing well you know what she was she was seen as a threat as a thrall yeah she said she came all

fair in love and love right or something like that and then she's still is very literal Right. So Natasha learns from her, I've got a party to go to, nobody to take me. Good line. Nobody's ever said that to me. The guy who picks up Natasha at the club, living the dream. Yeah. Robbie. Great BMW convertible, like really good year. Those mid-90s convertibles were elite. Crazy view. Automated snap. He's got like surround sound pretty early for the surround sound of like, I'm just going to put on some chadet and play. It's. some music for you. Entitled, though. And, uh, well, yeah, it was problematic.

Well, I was running for him, and then I'll send a guy a little date rapier. Yeah, he did. He tried to imprison her. He tried it with the wrong one. Come here. I said I want to go. Too late, babe. You're not leaving.

I said you're not leaving. All right. That's better. I really wanted more from Nick Wright. She's like, I just think MJ was better than Brun's. Like, you're staying here. You want to watch Sean Camp Pilates? I do, I think they can living in Boston in the mid-90s that, like, half the people in L.A. were like this guy.

Yeah. Where they just, like, went to clubs and then lived in a house like this. Brought somebody home. Just brought people home. Like, just overwhelmed with, like, all of the stuff that they had, and then, boom, close the deal. So do you think she kills him because he's date rapy or because he's diabetic? Both. I think it was a combo. He also threatened her.

That's what I'm saying. He was like, I want to leave. She should have killed him when he said, I've got to take a shower. Would you like that? He killed him in the shower, yeah. Yeah. Just like, that's weird. Well, I think he tried to cash the like, maybe she'll shower with me, check.

And when she didn't go for that, he was like, well, I'm already committed to this shower. So I got to take it. Right. I do have some alien questions, though. Like, she'd never seen a shower before. Like, there's a lot of moments where she should have been like, what's a shower? Yeah. Why are you standing?

in that room with water pouring on here. She saw three commercials and was like, I got it. She saw people spend the money. I understand money. Her and Borat were the fastest I was ever assimilated with the American guy. She saw one porn scene and a L'Orielle commercial. She's like, I'm good. I totally understand how this works.

I got to say, tough beat for diabetes. Like, that's enough. Oh, yeah. I know. Like, it was kind of like a drive-by on the diabetics. I would love if her alien son had like an insulin device on. The sewers. Eating rats.

Next one is the Palisades guy. Oh. I also really love just sill at the beach and the skateboarder guy who's like woohoo! Yeah.

It's almost getting to by the car. Yeah. I have a spot for that. Okay. I have thoughts. Okay. The most Palisades guy ever picks her up.

He just, He's like, isn't it great at here? You can, it's so quiet. She's got this nice. He's got some wine ready. And he's just like ready to, uh, ready to take it slow. And she's like, but this is the, this is the biggest tragedy in the movie. Five seconds.

Because this guy's a nice guy. He is a really nice guy. He wants to take a picture with her. What a sip. He's taking a picture with her first date. Got the polar. Kind of weird. Weird.

And then. Also, he goes from like, I've checked you into and out of the hospital and here's a charcutory plate. immediately. Yeah. He paid for her to get out of the hospital, took her was nice to her. What did he fucking get for?

It killed nothing. He was a peaceful guy in the Palisades. She'd got her in a nice girl. Yeah? Was going to pay for her injuries at the hospital? Put it on my credit card. Right. Although I can't blame him.

Was there a bigger swing for a human being in 30 seconds than that guy's night? Shit. He's like, this is going to great. Yeah, let's get the hot time. All right, let's get the hot tub. We're good. Hit the fucking lottery.

I can't believe this all. And then have 30 seconds later is being killed. Yeah. He stopped going with the floato. Yeah, he started resisting it. Yeah. He started pushing against the current. And then that's when you got to die.

Poor bastard. The car chase body switch explosion, whatever's going on there. Very fun to watch. I'll do a nitpick here, though. Nobody. none of this dream team suspicious at all that the alien with superior intelligence

might have rigged any part of this? They're like, let's go back to the hotel and get plowed. Let me and she see some Long Island STs. Yeah. And then the last one I have is everyone gets horny. Dueling sex scenes. Yeah. Marge was really seemed like

she was enjoying the scenes. She gets the... I don't want to step on half-ass internet's research, but apparently that scene was basically improvised by Helgenberger and... That was in my research as well. The blowjob? Yeah.

They were like, but that's... Honestly, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, oh, shit's getting real here on species, you know? Yeah. These are two consenting adults. Stand up. Stand up. I mean, I had it as a category later.

Did this movie need a better... The Stephen Segal Award for, did this movie need a better intimacy coordinator? Marge and Michael were like, keep that intimacy coordinator over there. Waving them off, Alan Arverson stuff. He's just clear out. Clear the light out.

Like, we got this. Do you know that Saga movie? That's where we have that category. Yeah. Where he's just going at it with this. He's like a cop who's just going at it with this lady who, I think it's his white who just ends up getting murdered. Wait a minute.

Which one? It's about Kelly LeBrock? It's the first one. Yeah, no, no. It's not the Kelly LeBrock one. It's the second one, Kyle and I did. What was that one? Alfred justice?

No, we just did that one. Above the law? Above the law. above the law is, no. And she gets gun down. Sagan is like, it's like uncomfortable. I don't know if I've done. I don't think we've done Mark for Death.

Yeah. Anyway, what do you have for most rewatchable Sierra? I think doing sex scenes at the end. Yeah. Yeah, that's clearly the answer. Because Hinstridge is going forward in that sex scene. Malina was never the same. He's throwing firecrackers a year later.

She is going for it in that. net sex scene. I really have to focus watching this movie. I'm sorry. I apologize, guys. Apologize to the listeners. I love the Hollywood Hills. That whole scene is great. That's my favorite part. Oh, really? The hot tub, the... Robbie. Robbie. I just love that whole section

is just great. Bill, you see yourself as Robbie, huh? Yeah. In like another life, you're like... It could happen. Two moves away. What's the most 1995 thing about this movie? I mean, Michelle Williams as young Natasha Andrew

Chatsy be American. She's disavowed this film. Yeah, I know. But she's like, hasn't disavowed Dawson's Creek? Yeah. I would have loved to have been like on the junket

for Manchester by the sea. And just asked her about it. Great work, but in species. Did you have to eat all those chocolate puddings or those stunt pudding? Why'd you kill the train conductor? Yeah. 1995

She has that little portable Sony TV That only existed for like three years That has to be the answer Right? Of course I did You're kidding You have that portable TV?

Yeah You still have a vision Are amazing Making fun of him for The vision pro Do you believe we had this? Come back around to the Vision Pro No

It looks like it weighed 15 pounds You could get Yeah they were like Waki Talkies And they had these tiny screens But you could get It was great for sports Like you could get the local

Whatever I have a 1999 thing, but like, do you think that F1 is going to be cool with the Vision Pro? It would be awesome because it will be specifically done for Apple. You think they're doing it that way? Yeah. But the Vision Pro has come back, though, because it was stupid, but now it's come back because the NBA app has caught up to the technology and the NBA app has caught up to the Vision Pro. And now watching a game on your Vision Pro is fucking amazing.

Are you going to be able to see LeBron selling me standing in the corner as Luca dribbles for 20 seconds? We'll have a better view of that. Probably so. I have a course on. This guy. We're going to do this again. Great. I'll just be over here.

End of the movie horrible special effects I had as well for 95. I just had the paper credit card authorization machine. Oh, that's a good one. So I have both of those, the analog thing. I haven't seen one of those in years. And you know what else is so 95 about this movie? Everybody is so thin. Melina, thin, Alfred Melina.

Thin. Oh, like the actors. They all look so. fucking young when I because these actors go on to be people that you see in all kinds of movies. Oh my God. Woods age the best, speaking of Molina.

Just that IMDB stretch for him where it's species and boogie nights within each other. Just impressed. I have a bunch of stuff. You go CR. Got a couple. Number one is just just a quick shot of Madsen

watching hockey. I was trying to figure out what game that was. it was the TV USA game. I tried to zoom in. An H.L. game. I couldn't. But just like him being two beers deep watching hockey when he gets the call and still is at the club. He's like, oh, time to catch the whole

third period. I want to talk about Forrest Whitaker and being an empath. The Dan walking into the train car seeing a dead woman in the husk of an alien uterus and saying, something bad happened here. No fucking shit. I laughed. Something bad happened here.

What are you talking about? It's an extra-st-a-restroo-cook-coon. And? I didn't know whether to put him in what stage is the best or what stage the worst. It's kind of both, but this time around, I was like, this is amazing. Where does this guy work? Is there any certification for his gifts? Half of it is just like, ah, it's hot in here.

Right, yeah. Like somebody was hot or somebody was hot in here. They're like in a restaurant. He's like, she was hungry. Yeah, he does like the... She was scared. It's like she probably was scared. She's an alien.

There's moments where he's like touching the ground, like the dirt to see which direction she went in. Like what does that have to do with being an impact? He's like Sunny Hayes touching the track. His powers are completely inconsistent in the movie. Does he have the power to know somebody's feelings? To know what the door before they knocked. It's crazy. He might just have crazy hearing.

Well, I don't know. At first I just thought it was ESP when I first saw the movie, crazy hearing. Like, he's a mutant of some sort. Because he heard the guy at the door. Maybe he's just like, he's kind of like an overdeveloped thing. And then he starts, after a while throughout the movie, he starts taking her side.

Really, he doesn't start taking her. He's on her side the whole time. Right. She's a living being. She's scared. It's like she doesn't kill him. Yeah. That's right.

It's an inexplicable character. And I think a huge part of why I like this movie because it's, I just can't believe this. was the best they could do. They put the least thought into... First of all, what's an empath? Have you ever met one? Now it's like people are like,

I'm very empathic. But everyone is an impact now. It just means you like sensitive. As a job? Bill, no. No, as a personality. Yeah. Like now for like ladies who have...

Don't worry, you're not. Right. No, you are the opposite of an impact. You're like, okay, you're the opposite. But for ladies that have like, for ladies that have, like, for ladies have like waist beads and want to know your birth chart and stuff like that? But is this a job?

It's not a job. It's not a social media like cobbie. No, it's not a job. It's like when you're feeling bad, I feel bad. I'm an empath. I mirror your feelings and all of that stuff like that. Yeah. It's a thing. So you're basically a golden retriever. Golden retrievers bear their humans if humans are sad, happy. How did the CIA know about him? They went on empath.com. Yeah, seriously.

They were on 1995 version of Indeed. They're tracking him? Like, why? So Kalika says to you, hey, Denise is coming over tonight. And you're like, the empath? Exactly. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. She's still doing that. Yeah, yeah. No, it's going well. She's had some empath sessions. Or you're in a L.A. conversation at a party. Somebody has a couple of bumps of Coke and they go,

the thing about me is I'm a fucking empath. And I can handle all of this negativity from everyone. If we're talking about Dan, though, I was going to bring this up later. But it's Tony Romo kind of an empath. Oh, with the plays? With predicting the plays? Yeah. You know, like, because he's like a little, I guess it's a little bit more predictive rather

than reactive. It would be like if Romo was like, I knew they were going to blitz Jim. Like, you know, like after the blitz. But there was something like, I was trying to imagine what Dan would be like as an announcer, as a sports announcer. Well, or flip at Tony Romo in the empath role in this movie. Yeah. She was Humperjee.

She got threatened. She just wants to procreate you. Natural imperative. Very horny. Forrest Whitaker, though, for a very long stretch of his career, was just an expert at playing weird, off-kilter characters. Yes. Like fucking ghost dog, this, or Asian Harlem,

which is a great fucking movie. And he's just playing weird, a bigger guy, but could play Mousy real well, soft-spoken real well. Yeah, Laura would stage the best Because I have a couple Laura and Preston's sex scene

Good one Yeah They felt frisky Oh that was a That sex scene was actually hotter Than anything that Natasha was into Yeah

Because she was taking charge That I mean I like the little fist pump By herself in the hotel room That Madsen showed up Yeah She's playing her little game It actually worked

Um I could have I could have watched Natasha's shopping in downtown L.A. for a couple more scenes. In the bridal dress? Like the snow white outfit? Yeah.

Like imagine you're in downtown L.A. right now just popping through different stores. Also, like, she should have bought a couple weird things. Yeah. Like, are those headphones? The Bluetooth headphones.

Yeah, that she bought. Yeah, that would be funny. Or if she just had like a walkman and was walking around. Right. I like when aliens foreigners and grown up kids and adult bodies

watch hotel room TVs. I think it's worked over and over again. Borat, Big, this movie. It's a good gimmick. I'm scared. I'll take comfort in this TV. I'm experiencing culture. Everything I learned. I love that. You see like sex, violence, all of that and one thing.

How about a science fiction science fiction slash horror movie where the black character survives? That's notable. It's like this is almost a unicorn. It is, but at the same time... Normally, he's dead

the first hour. At the same time, they had to stay consistent because that nice sister on the train gets her shit fucked up. That is true. So they had to feed him like, she gets fucked up.

Yeah. She did nothing but be nice. Tough death. Infected rats. It was a good gimmick. It was a good gimmick. Terrifying. Yeah.

Probably would have been a better sequel. I don't remember the sequel. I saw it once. not in the theater. I don't think I saw a species. I never saw really, really poorly reviewed. Like the kind of reviews were like just if you're going to go see this

like just drive your car, no telephone pole. Because what lives, it's just like the little arm still is still moving around and then the rat. Yeah. I think we've done this before with, and I forget what movie it was, but sometimes a movie that's not that big will have this incredibly detailed

Wikipedia page. It's so long. And it's clear. Somebody involved with the movie is on there is wrote a lot of the stuff so i do have a suspect screenwriter dennis feldman there's just a lot of his process in the wikipedia page like a lot when i say a lot like paragraph after paragraph or like then in the sixth draft there's more writer dennis feldman decided to do that it's like how do they know any of this there's more in this wikipedia page than there would be in like the lucid dantsch trade wikipip page or like the actual james cameron alien movie like aliens too

like that like I just couldn't believe how detailed it was and I just was picturing I don't know if you did or not but this Dennis Feldman like I'm going to add one more thing to the complete I got to tell them about the seventh draft of this movie when I had the idea there is actually suspiciously like it's really they were like it went through many

rewrites but everything you see is courtesy of Dennis Feldman right right there's one part where they brought in yeah where they brought in a second screenwriter and they just specifically say but none of that was used in the end they went with denis feldman's work it was like who cares many people are saying yeah um also for what's age the best this is in the director's commentary see r alluded to this before madsen said ben kingsley was protective of his chair and set and didn't like anyone touching it so madsen would purposely do things to it

including dumping garbage on it and hanging it from a cream. It's really funny. Ben Kings is just like, how many more fucking days do I have on this movie, too? Damn it! Any other I would say it's the best other than when the government has to go outside the box? I like a hunt or chase movie when you get a rag-tag group of people to solve a problem. Hey, I'm a microbiologist.

I'm an impasse. I'm this. Each one of these persons is an expert in their field. and it's the only team that could crack the case. I love that. I love that. I still feel like when he said he was an empath, I would have had like five more questions.

Yeah, but be like, so, but like, is that like a, you paid for that? Relancer thing. Is it a volunteer? Can you work for a sports team? I have to say something real quick before we move on. What's here? Dennis Feldman is one of my favorite motherfuckers in the world.

The movies that Dennis Feldman has done. Let's hear it. Just one of the guys. All-time Van Lathen Classic. It's on the rewatchable schedule. The Golden Corp. child. Oh.

Wow. That was a formative classic for me. Dennis Feldman wrote it. This movie, which I never know how many people have seen this movie.

Have you guys seen a movie called Real Men with John Wooder and Jim Belushi? Where that is one of my favorite. I have a very cool real men story.

When I was a kid, I went to film camp in Maine. It was pretty fun. And one of the things that we did was when we learned editing, they had this famous editor Ralph Rosenbaum

who did like Annie Hall and a bunch of other stuff but he showed us real men he showed us the version of real men before he like went back in and cut it and it was like so bad but then when he he was like and here's what I did

we were like oh my God the editor is the most important person on the set or the most important person in the productions it was very cool can we go back to film camp I would love to what was going on Any girls? No.

There was, it was a largely male thing. I wound up starring in and directing a short called The Dirty Bag, which is about a kid on a BMX bike who finds like a bag of drug money. And then it's chased by hitman across this town in Maine. We got footage of this? Yeah, I still have it. So we put it on Ringer movie? That's a pretty good friend of it. It's tough because a lot of it is scored to Jimmy Hendricks, but we did not have clear.

that. And Zeppelin. Jim is the state that inside. I'm telling you, man. Yeah, Brockheimer's like writing a hundred million dollar checks to Led Zeppelin. I'm like, I got that. 86, 87, you get

Christian Slater, you put them on the BMX. Yeah. It was like a gleaming of cube type of deal. It was very inspired by rad and gleaming the cube. Wow. This now sounds like an A24 coming of age story of CR at film camp 30 years ago.

It was awesome. There was no girl. Like, there was no want to be actress. I did not have a romantic. Maybe situation going. Maybe they're a different. experiences that could be had at C.R.'s film. I'm not going to judge. You have any what's age the best fan, or can we move on?

Just the hunt-type chase movie. Yeah, okay. Big Cooner Burger Word for Best Use of Food or Drink. All the shit that little kid ate in the train. Great scene. Banana with the peel still on? Pudding. Yeah, the banana with the peel on is great.

The Long Island Ice Tees. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. Great shot Gordo. Most cinematic shot would be... Just need to say, this movie would be... shot by

Andre Bartoviac who did a bunch of to Sydney Lumet stuff he shot like Prince of the City he shot speed and it was

just like that moment where like some of the greatest cinematographers would be like yeah I guess I'm shooting species

right so I think I don't have a shot but it looks pretty good I was gonna say her coming out of the cocoon and the train

yeah that's a good one because they had to invert the train to make it work so she could fall the way they did I think they also did a really good job

making the Biltmore look awesome downtown? I've never actually been in it. We forgot to say this was directed by Roger Donaldson. We did some fun ones over there, including No Way Out.

Yeah. How many Donald's... Craig loves... Craig loved No Way out. Yeah, that movie rips. Yeah. That's a very Craig-coded movie, though. Did he do Air Force One?

Because I'm secretly Russian spy. I think he did. Could be. Craig didn't think Sean Young was hot in that movie, though. Craig, you're off your fucking rocker dog. Not hot, not good in it. Yeah.

So, no, Sean Young, not beautiful. You know, Sean Young, I knew about Sean Young from Ace Ventura. Pet Detective, that colored your, that changed. Finkel, Ironhorn.

Your guy, Roger Donaldson, also did the getaway. We've done sneak. He also did cocktail. He did. That's why he's one of the great directors. And I think we might do 13 days at some point.

Oh, I like that. Possible. And the recruit with your guy? Yeah. Look, with Colin. Cool movies.

Yeah. Just like cool movies. The Cadillac, man, which people like to do the bounty. As far as shots, though, what about the defining shot of this movie?

which I feel like was the tongue coming through the back of the guy's head. Cinematic, maybe not so, but like very affecting in selling your film and getting people. This is probably the most memorable shot. Right. It won Best Kiss at the 1996 MTV Movie Awards. And they recreated the kiss, which is not the head thing. Kid Cutty percent happiness word for Best Needle Drop. I couldn't.

The 90s club. I think in Id, they are listening to the Crystal Method, which is a very 90s. Yeah, I think I could have dialed that up. That could have gone really early on. EDM. Yeah, like early, early Moby. Somebody like that we could have been like, oh.

Oh, shit. Yeah. Tricky. Well, they used all the money on the alien. They weren't about to go give Moby any cash. Chess Rockwell, Brockley, Inters, or best character name. Xavier Fitch is Ben Kingsley's name. I think Preston Lennox.

Preston Lennox is a crazy good name. A second round draft pick for the Cleveland Cavaliers. They took Xavier Fitch. It's a combo guard. Preston Lennox is good, though. So we're adding the Ed Norton and reverse dunk for did this movie need a random sports scene? I have mine.

I have mine as well. Go, what's yours? Why, when Sil is sleeping at the beach, why can't she stop by the Venice courts and do a white man can't jump? Just hustle some dudes. It's glaring. I mean, there's so many missed opportunities

in this movie that I just wish there had been a conciliary for, but she wakes up. There should definitely be a basketball game going on. She should be watching it. One of the players should hit on her. And that's just like a quick kill. That could have taken like,

probably would have been beach volleyball, let's be honest. Maybe. But can you imagine her blocking a shot and destroying the ball? Like, or something. She's been like, oh. Or her wandering on a beach volleyball court naked and just they're all up there playing. But the movie I have,

the movie is missing the Lakers. The Lakers should have been in there. Because it's a very L.A. movie. 95 Lakers is what? Like she goes to a Laker game? Like she goes to a Laker game or a Laker game is more realistic. Because you can get in for like $3. She studies the cheerleaders and then just.

ends up replacing one of them. So this would have been early McDice on the Clippers. Brent Barry. She could have been like Brent Barry. She could have met at the club maybe.

Boy, if Britt Barry would have played Stanley Roberts? Sierra, what do you have for a flex category? I have the George Lerby two weeks with Pavan and I can cook on this one.

But Xavier Finch seems like he has a lot of responsibility with very little oversight and just takes too many chances. Ben Kingsley is horrible in all aspects of this profession. If you've got the entire military or disposal, there's a lot more effective ways to kill an alien than gassing it. I guess that was supposed to be humane.

I don't know. But it just seemed like she checkmates that and they're like, fuck, I guess we lost her. There's no stop safeguards against her getting out. By the way, we can't tell the trains would shut down. You're aware of her biology. You're aware of her biology. You have not come up with a satisfactory way to kill her.

You have not come up with a satisfactory way to find her. Well, you fucked it up so much that you have to kill her. Right. Then you, when the alien shows up in the form of an adorable girl, you use the most bond villain method possible to kill her. And then when that fucks up, you hire a bunch of nerds instead of getting like Sealed Team 6 to go after her. Right. You would get the Delta Force.

Yeah. And put them. You would get the Delta Force. Put them in plain clothes. right? Those guys look like average guys there are special forces operators and then you'd go out there and fire. And how many people know that they're chasing an alien? Because aren't

more people like, why are we hunting this girl like she's like the super villain? Because he says in the beginning like I don't want everybody to find out that there's extra extraterrestrial life. So we're trying to keep it contained. Yeah. Yeah, it's missing a scene where he tells him boss.

I'm going to tell Dan to Mbath. Right. Well, that's what he tells his boss? So what's plan B? It's like, well, I got this this is empath I've been looking at and bring him in the microbiologist has the fucking vest on with the rifle

she had to Erica Linniak it from from under siege and they ended up becoming a strike team at the end that's a good rewatchable category the Erica Linniak Underseiz Award for how do you know how to work

like random person that because of Gaul adjacent awards he had in one movie he's a hero yeah Butch's girlfriend Award Weeklink of the film is the last 12 minutes. Oh, I had the girl that she kidnaps.

Terrible. That's just like, it actually doesn't matter that she's in the car that much. Yeah. They napalm that whole thing anyway, so I don't really know if they're like excavating it. And it's just like 10 extra minutes. Toughest death in the movie for you? That girl getting tortured and her finger cut off and then driving to her blow up that. They get the DNA from that.

But that's still stupid. What was the worst way to die in this movie? Oh, the worst way to die for me was Alfred Molina because he had a high and then a low and he was experiencing. That's true. Great way to go out. I'd rather be Molina than the girl on the toilet.

Maybe, but Molina, there's always, have you guys ever been in a situation where things are going really good and then they start going really bad? That one moment of realizing that you fucked up because this stuff never happens to you must be so profound. So I felt really bad for him because he did nothing wrong. Yeah.

She comes up to him, he goes, this kind of thing doesn't happen to me. And he's not like the other guy. Well, he shouldn't have mansplained about how conception works. You know, that'll teach him. I think he probably could have sniffed it out a little sooner. Yes. That something was up. Snift it out.

Sniff what out. Just smoking hot, who just has like this obviously badly dyed hair. Who looks just like the woman they've been chasing for two weeks. He really wants to mate with him. He was like. So you're saying it's his fault. Yeah, I think he was asking for a little bit. There you go.

I have the last. 12 minutes. Once we get in the sewer, once Natasha's not Natasha anymore, this movie becomes a pretty conventional beat movie. What's age the worst? Species 2. Madsen said, it's lousy. I only did it for the paycheck.

You could feel it. We talked about Forrest Whitaker. We talked about Hollywood Hills guy. I got one more thing. I have one more, but you go. The Long Island Ice Tea, nobody drinks those anymore. No, because I think people like black out after you have like two of them. I think they got a bad rap. They've got a bad rap. Also, I remember

they have a ton of calories, right? They're very calorie dense. And then you have two of them, you're fucked. Like, no pecker. Long Island iced teas. Still at the clubs? Yeah, they're still around, to be honest. I don't drink them a lot because they're too potent, but yeah, people still getting them. I got to say also, the Long Island iced tea thing is, are we supposed to believe Dan doesn't drink because he's Muslim?

Oh, maybe. It's got fucked up that Malina's just like, no, no, no. We're going to slip you some out. alcohol, even though your religious beliefs prohibit you from drinking. Malina's asking for it. Yeah. I have, for what stage is the worst, all the missed opportunities for Natasha to find a mate in Hollywood that they just left on the table.

Because she really only goes back to the same club once. Like, easily could have gone to the Viper Room. Easily could have gone to the bar and swing, to a place in swingers where the old people Marty and Elaine play. Can you imagine? Cynar Coul? I wouldn't want it some Hollywood landmarks.

Goes to Canter. She just wants some corned. Look at that beautiful baby. They just walked in. I'm going to talk to that beautiful baby. I'll fly and get some... But it's like, if Fabro from Swingers calls Syl five times, is she just like,

yes? Hi. Hello? Have a baby? I thought there was some Santa Monica. That whole area, they just left on the table. There was some outdoor pool bar scene they could have had.

I don't know why they kept going back to the club. Kingsley's like, this is what she knows. Like, how does he know? She's a fucking mutated alien? He has experience? It's a great question. The rough, lohan, a ribbon and partridge overacting word.

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if the alien was like a six? Not an uggo, but like, just like at the club and guys are like, Like, yeah, yeah. Uh, well, I guess. This is harder for her to find a mate.

Yeah. Right. And it becomes almost like a rom-com where she's just like, ah, none of these guys want to go home with me. Like in LA6. It would have fit in that rom-com era where there was something wrong with every woman who just want to find love. Yeah.

And in her case, it's like, I don't know. It's not like Debbie Downer kind of, but like it's just like, you imagine she was like five, five. People are like, yeah, sure. No, LA's crazy. It's, you know, it's hard to get to know anyone here. She's waiting in line to the club for an hour and a half to. She's like, well, you give me a baby and everybody's like, no.

But that's nice to meet you. Oh, my God. That killed me. What do you have been in anything? It's going to be really on the nose. The movie should have had more fucking. Yeah, this should have been either a hard-ar or an insane. 17.

It's a great call. The movie should have had more fucking. Like, there should have been more fucking than the movie. Because, like, they, a lot of the stuff that they had in there was stuff that we didn't need to see. Like, as soon as she becomes grown-up woman on the train, she'll pull somebody in the room, fuck them on the train. Yeah, I don't know what her biological imperative is. Like, is it like, I needed to mate immediately. Should have been that.

She, well, her, the imperative is I need to. take over the human race with my half babies. Yeah, right. My hottest take, it's going to step on a later category. Are you scared?

No, I'm just so. I just think there should have been a TV show and I think you can make the case that if this is an HBO show in 1995, it becomes the first great cable one hour show that we have. Do you want to sustain the level of nudity that Hensstridge is...

I think it's... You almost have to think about it like true blood. Yeah. just like this is a corny crazy and it's like almost like crossed the 24 awball campy it's one week they can't find her

she's just in LA doing all this different shit and it's like when she meets the Hollywood Hills guy that's almost like half of an episode it's like you know what I mean X-Files comes out two years before this but you could talk me into Madsen and Helgenberger being like Mulder and Scully and they're

kind of chasing but in the meantime there's other mysteries for them to solve. There's different types of mut- because this government agency is doing all kinds of crazy different experiments. But also like still must have kids by then. Right.

I just think this is a rare case of there's so much in this movie and they just ripped through it in an hour and a half and it's like there's like nine things that would have worked for a TV show. Dennis Feldman is listening going, I know. It's Wikipedia adding to it. No, but it's like I just think in 95 this would have been like

a transformative show. It wasn't a one hour like this. Like Sopranos was until 99. Yeah. You know, Oz was 97. So you'd be like basically species and Oz would have been on HBO. It would add nudity, which fit the HBO thing. Do you think there was an audience for it on HBO at that time?

100,000 percent. They were so, they were in their... At the very least, this would have been like a cool Cinemax show. Oh, Cinemax would have been. They weren't doing it. They weren't. HBO and Showtime were the only two doing, that would have done a drama like this. I think maybe the alien stuff would have been too expensive.

But you could have made it. So we didn't really see the air. Yeah, maybe once a year. You didn't need the three-season finale. Yeah. I just think it would have ripped. And they could have, like, Madsen, you could have killed her off after the first season

and then Madsen and Marge become, like, attacked him. I don't know. A lot of stuff there. Casting what ifs? Pierce Brosden was offered a part but couldn't do it because he had golden eye, but then ended up working with Roger Donaldson on Dante's Peak. So what part do we think? I think it was Kingsley.

You think so? Yeah. He think Kingsley found out and was like, fuck this. Mailing it and everything now. I'll give you the single tear and that's it, you motherfuckers. Who knows if this is true, but Arnold Schwarzenegger was briefly interested in the script, but the budget wouldn't allow him. I assume that would be pressed in Linux, yeah.

Would have been a totally different movie who's evolved. He said, what if press fucks the alien before he kills him? I want a Schwarzenegger for the empath. Somebody didn't, somebody did not stay in top fitness here. Best that guy award. It's not whip. It's whip.

Yeah. He won before on St. Elmo's Fire. Fucking Hollywood from Top Gun, man. Yeah. Those are his best three. Great, great IMDB. Die on Waiters Award. Michelle.

Sure. She's good. You know what I get, Hollywood Hills date rape guys. A pretty good villain there in five minutes. did a co-winner, all the dead guys. Oh. Like all, besides Molina, all the dead guys, all the victims.

They all have to, they all have to have their little Dionne Waiters moment and then get killed. Yeah. I like the Michelle Williams. That's odd. Recasting Couch Director City. Ironically, Van brought him up before, but I had Vince Vaughn playing Hollywood Hills guy instead of Nick Wright. He's like, look at this beautiful baby. What are you doing?

take you back to my crib, let's party. And he's just like full Vince Vaughn. Yeah. And then she kills him about up. And he's like brings her back and he's like, let's just play NHL 95 all night. Like a headbleet. My buddy Sue is here. Nick Wright.

Nick Wright, you end up having to do a podcast with Nick Wright. You're going to get mad. What is he going to get mad about it? He looks like it. First of all, it was CR. CR's going to have to invite him on the watch. Nick, we got to squash it. Yeah.

Oh, Craig is a flex category. They're honestly both tweaks of things that Chris and Van have already said. So one was the did this movie need a better sex scene? I agree with Van. I thought it was a huge misopportunity to not get Madsen and her in a room. I thought that's what the whole movie was leading up to. That's like there's a flash forward vision. She has like fantasies of him.

Yeah, I wonder if she's like that what? I feel like a proud dad. Craig, man, when I first started doing this shit, Craig was like his too many titties in the 80s. And look at them now. Bonafire freak. Tell us about the same thing. Look, this movie's about this. You know what I mean?

There's not an unnecessary nudity in the movie. It's what the movie is about. But I'm like, there should have been like a love triangle where he's in the room with Sil with the brown hair. And then Dr. Baker comes in and is like, who's this? And there should have been something with that. It all led up to that moment. Or he has sex with Marge.

They fall asleep. Marge goes to like go to the bathroom. or something and Syl comes in. He thinks it's Marge. They did the single-wave female. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Works. Do you think that, like, because she senses the weakness in Robbie and then the dude in the pot tub is like, oh, no, no, that's too fast. But she's having visions of Madsen. Is Madsen kind of like the alpha? Like, he's like the best, the best of the best. Take over the universe of bad. Yeah.

And she had to settle for Malina. because she was in a hurry. Gotcha. Yeah, because she's about to get old. Yeah. Because she, like the next day,

she's, what, 48? She's going fast. One of my unanswerable questions is like, what's her aging like? Like,

does she just turn into Betty White in a week or what? Substance too. Half as internet research. Half as internet research. So was designed by H.R. Giger. Yep.

Who designed the creatures in the alien films. Yes. Do you know there was an aliens too? Oh, it's not a joke, I missed it. Yeah, okay. It's not, Chris wants to do aliens. That's it.

That's the whole joke. And Bill doesn't want to do it. No, what should be? We're going to do it. He's going to wait for me to go on vacation. Trying to, uh. So Gagher was unhappy. He thought the movie ripped off too many other alien movies, including...

But he did the alien. The chess buster. They did that. They did, species does things that have been in other movies, and apparently he got holier than now about it. But he worked. He worked on it. He did.

But he got mad about some of the stuff. They gave him, like, all the money. Like, they were, like, we're not even paying Madsen so that you do these aliens. So then he threw his body in front of whatever the ending initially was, and they ended up doing the headshot kill instead because that hadn't been in an alien movie. My advice would have been, like, a mild settled down for him. Yeah. These are alien movies. The Id Club was built in the Pantages Theater.

Oh. No shit. Very special. How about that? Um, there's not really... We talked about a bunch of it. Yeah, we hit basically everything except Alfred Molina, we're called.

Natasha Hensridge was, uh, nervous on the day of their sex scene because she'd never acted one before. And he said, I've never been in one either, but he ate with a woman because he had apparently been in one with a man in a movie and it broke the ice. Oh, yeah. He's very excited about that.

I think I've called her Hentridge for the past hour She's called Natasha. She should dump the last name. I think she could have done it. Is Madonna? Introducing Natasha. Apex Mountain, clearly Natasha. For sure.

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Madsen? I would say probably Reservoir Dogs. Well. But Reservoir Dogs, like, didn't, wasn't a big thing in the movies. It became a thing.

By 95, after people had been watching. True, Oman. Ph.S. This is no possible way that this is his apex model. This movie made over 100 million. Maybe honestly, and he's the lead. I think it was. I think you're right.

I think by 95, Reservoir Dogs had been like on VHS had become a thing. I didn't see Reservoir Dogs for at least a year. I know. There's just no way. This was a big movie, Dan. I get it. If you were to say to somebody, Michael Madsen, they'd name like five movies before they named this movie. This is that range, though.

Right. Like, he passed up Pulp Fiction. Like, he probably has the most juice right around here. You mean at this time? I can maybe. By that. Marge at CSI. Yeah.

Definitely. Just killing it. Ben Kingsley, no. Horny alien movies. I don't know what the competition is. And I also don't know why we're not making more of them. It should. It should be every five years.

Alien is shocking. We just want to. Fuck. Yeah. We really lost that as a society. We have. Bring it back. Whitaker, no.

Mid-90s, BMW convertibles. This is a really good one. There's some, there's a side. type thing on it near the end it's like they cut a scene where she must have had an accident. Yeah, on the way to the beach, and then she wakes up and she's like she's got her cars all fucked up. What is homie

dropping in speed? What do you? I think it was a BMW convertible. That was a BMW convertible. And then what's the one that's on the Frank Ocean cover? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a nice. Does that be MW? I'm not sure. I have the thing of what.

I don't have any of their apex mounds. Me neither. Cruiser Hanks. What do you got? It was tough. This is really hard. You can go any age range of cruise or hangs. I was told I couldn't do that last week. No, you can. Okay.

I would probably give... You tried to cheat last week. No, I didn't. You tried to get one of the lesser roles. How about... Literally, one of the guys she picks up is cocktail cruise. Or Magnolia Cruz? Yeah.

Oh, Magnolia. Oh. He's Hollywood Hills guy? The long hair. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. I was going to say Cruz now in the Ben Kingsley role.

Interesting. Doing a couple like old man Tom Cruise things. But he'd probably want to be the hero. But it's Chris, not Hank's. I don't see Hank being able to keep a straight face in this movie. I got Cruz as the Michael Mattson guy. Get some running. You got to run after the A-Den.

He does get him running. He's very dynamic. You can get more things and made a couple of great stunts. Natasha's probably like two inches taller than him. That would be a problem. She's probably two inches taller. But at that point, She's also, if Cruz is in the movie,

she's going to have to be between 20 and 25 years old anyway. Scorsese or Spielberg? Spielberg. Spielberg. I had Scorsese. Interesting. I wanted his gritty, his sex alien movie

with steeped in Catholic guilt. What's the most sci-fi he's ever done? Like, Shutter Island? Yeah, I think you're right. Instead of an empath, it's a Catholic priest. Last temptation of Christ. Yeah. Sci-fi.

Philips C. Morhoff and roll. Probably the Molina part. Yeah, that or the guy the Palisades guy with Puebla's part. The Molina part is pretty perfect for him. Hey, let's take a picture.

Palisades guy. He had its Polaroid camera. He had a charcutory board. Nice quiet neighborhood. Nice guy. High credit limit. Also, she's got promoted. Hey, this is fast for me. Hey, he just wants to wine and dine a little bit. And what does it get? Do you think that's the Dennis Feldman avatar?

You think Dennis saw himself as the Palisades? If you should put that in the Wikipedia. I had that, I'll just do this now for picking nits. Anyone in 1995 turning down sex or being like this is too fast? Especially that guy. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, you want, really?

We ready? What's the purpose of having a mansion in the Palisades with a pool if sex... In a hot tub. Still screwed up, though, because everything's kind of going fine. And then she makes it... She's like, I want a baby. And he's like, ah. I think someone's at the door.

Don't go. Please. I want a baby. What? Excuse me? I feel like that's reasonable. It was almost like she hadn't had social interactions for 24 hours. I'm going.

I'm going. All right. It's full send. Oh, we barely get to do this category. How would Van Lathen get to do this category? out of this one. He wouldn't. So,

yeah, clearly, single van brings Sill back to the crib and she's moving really fast and you realize she might be an alien. How do you get out of it? Okay.

So I realized that she might be an alien. Or you realize something is way off and you need to abort the night. How do you get her out of the house? Oh, how do I get her out of the house? How do you not die? Well, that's never going to happen. I'm going to do something different.

Okay. That's how you get out of it. Right. So I realized that she's an alien. I say, look, you don't have to kill me after we have sex because we're going to have sex. Yeah. I'm going to take this time. Oh, yeah. Right. You don't have to praying mantis. We're in the same team. You don't have to pray in mantis this. What's better than one alien baby? Five. And I'll be there for the housework. And I'll be there. You can pump these things back. We'll start again. Pump that baby out. Ready right now. Let's be honest. You want to start a whole new world? This one hasn't been particularly good for my people.

I'm with it. Like, let's go for it. Me and you against the world, baby. So team up. Team up. That's how you get out. That's how I get out of it. I like it.

Picking Nets. My favorite one in this whole movie, Madsen's character, this tough guy. The first time we see him, he's handing a cat to his cat center. It's an awesome moment. I have a feeling that was a Madsen. Be like, you know, would throw people off

if I had a cat. It's so stupid. Donaldson's like, whatever, man, I just need the shot. How is it not like a Rottweiler or something sort of cool Michael Madsen dog?

He's got a cat. He's fine on the road a lot. Dogs need a lot more, you know, ridiculous. The train porter clothes, just a horrific murder. People walk in.

It's like, oh my God, it stinks. There's a cocoon on the wall. There's blood everywhere. And Natasha is wearing her clothes out. Clean is a drum. Clean.

Yes. And they fit. And they fit. And they fit. And I don't want to, you know, but the sister on the train. They didn't have the same body. They didn't have the same body type. Yeah.

How did they follow her from the club to the Hollywood Hills House? It was never explained. Well, because the, the doorman is like, oh, yeah, Robbie. Yeah. Robby took home a pretty good chick tonight. Doorman just knows where Robbie lives with the exact address. They were like, you know, the usual, because Dan is like, it would be a nice guy. Right.

And they go, Robbie's a nice guy, which he turns out not. to be. No, he's not. I don't think the doorman knows Robbie's home address. But maybe

Robbie was like just low blood sugar. Yeah. Not to make excuses for his behavior. He's true. Yeah, maybe he was right.

I get it. Could they really figure out semen in the hot tub water in 10 minutes, which is what happens in this movie? I mean, if they could.

They just checked. There's no semen in the hot tub. It's like, you guys just got here. Can we do that that fast? What if they were like, we just checked this water,

it's all semen. So this guy has been doing work up here in the palisis. These guys throwing ropes Oh my god It's all semen Any other nipics?

That is an incredibly nice motel manager For the Sahara I don't get the impression that that is like guys who are really Interesting customer service or you know Yeah You forgot your card lady Hey you forgot your card and you know you could go dancing It's just like it's just really nice

guy where it should be like, I'm in a human trafficker. That is my nitpick. People weren't horny enough for her. Yeah. She's in L.A. Like, no, there's not one scene where someone goes, Jesus Christ, you should be modeling with us. She keeps bumping into the nicest people. Yeah.

So people weren't horny enough for her. And just everything else I've talked about, they put a microbiologist in combat later on in this movie. Yeah. Like, you know, come on, man. I got one knit. Yeah. After the hot tub murder, she's still on the loose.

And Ben Kingsley's like, let's go. Go home, get some sleep. Yeah. He's like, let's go home and crush tape. It's okay. Matt, he's like, there's a hockey game on. I got to catch. Sequel, prequel, prestige TV, all black castor, untouchable.

I've already made my prestige TV case. I mean, they made so many bad sequels of this. Your prestige TV pitch was great. Prestage would be great right now. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trao, Dorisberg, Sam Jackson, Nell, Byron Mayo, Tony Romo, Chris Collins, or Daniel Plainboo, Long Legs, or Wilford Brimley. I'm still in the lab, trying to figure out how to get Shack

involved with more movies, but I do think DB just being like Bonjour Mademoiselle Hensrich! We see you! You came out of that cocoon, naked is the day as long. Oh, DB.

Yeah. We have to remix some of these. Can I... I definitely think Byron Mayo would have been an interesting addition. What's going on here, my friend? Oh, so if you need the seed, just ask, no reason.

Got that wedding dress on, you're ready to roll. I have a, I think first take Jay Williams needs to be brought in the consideration here. Bill, come on, man. No, I'm just like, here's this hot alien who needs to mate two days. Can't mate with anybody. Are we sure she was good? I keep just sagging. I can't wait for the summit where it's like Jay Williams, Nick Wright, DB.

everybody sitting down like god damn bill just want to ask her who gets it it's probably special effects I had Madsen just for the hell of it yeah probably in answerable questions what was your FCR

do we think Sean Marks would have drafted the species if they were eligible I can't think I wrote that down really late at night yeah we really like some of her flexibility I don't know

are the overarching aliens that she comes from are they pleased with her Is she doing a good job for them? Well, they don't know what's going on. Yeah, I mean, she was like basically cooked up in a bathtub. I know, but like, so these aliens had enough technology and all that is to do this, but they're not watching what's going on? I think the implication is that she's not unlike Dan an empath, and that she is reflecting the society that she's been thrown into, which is like a predatory, violent, you know, fucked up place.

Yeah, but they had this master plan to, in fact. us with their race, did they not? They did. Are they watching? I think they're just kind of hoping it plays out that way. Interesting. They were like,

Can't believe Kingsley. He's going to do this. So he's not going to tell anyone, huh? Okay. Like the Derrick Queen trade. Yeah. That's an unprotected pick? I have one unanswerable.

So if you were the conciliary for Natasha when she gets off the train, where would you tell her to go? It's time to mate. you're very chocked of blonde lady. I think the move would have been South Bay just walking up and down the strand trying to maybe meet

some beach volleyball. Like she wants like strong barrel guys, right? To continue the continue like her little alien human. USC frat party. Yeah. I'm telling her the SC. You want to find like guys in their late teens. No. I don't think about it. You want like a party.

Late teens. She wants like burial guys. I'm saying like 19 to 25. Well, she's 21. What is Bill doing? She's 21 in this. I think she's 21. I thought you meant for a second just like, where would you go as a tourist?

Well, there's a piece of that too. Like, it's probably, like, when she's in Santa Monica, it's like, all right. She's like a guy who's got, like, a nice winery in the Central Valley. You know what I mean? Like a guy. So you would have turned her to Los Alibos? Do some wine tasting. I would have accepted any location with her.

Okay. I just think anywhere she goes would have been hilarious. I just, now every time I think. of it, I'm like, this should have been a TV show. Sill at Disney World would have been amazing. That would have been amazing. So going to a Laker game. Sill's like, I want to

I want to go to... Sill at the Lakers game is she's going to find out of... I want to go to Eagle Rock. I heard there's some really smart people up there. Sill with Gretzky. She goes to a Laker game. She's going to find her mate. She'll find some people.

She finds Leo DiCaprio. Yeah. What piece of memorabilia would you want or not want from this movie? I couldn't come up with them. I had Forrest Whitaker's Coofy. That's good. What? I don't look at you.

reaching out. Coach Finstock Award. Coach Finstock Award, best life lesson. Don't underestimate hot horny aliens. Yeah, if a six-foot blonde woman

wants your baby at the club, it's probably too good to be true. Right. Yeah. Women are not to be used. Yeah, that's cool, man. That's nice of it, man.

See, I can do both things. I can do both. Best double feature choice under the skin? I had mimic. The Miris Sorvino movie that came out a couple years later It's basically about killer cockroaches and then more shit So I went obscure There's a movie called Amanda and the Alien

You guys have probably never seen it It's with Nicole Eggert It's a very low budget movie But it's about this lady Who She meets an alien And the alien is on earth Like learning its body

Having sex with different people and all of that Amanda and the alien I know this one 1995 says it's a TV movie. Made for cable. I think it was for Cinemax or one of those joints because there's some scenes in there. Oh.

Yeah. What did you? Did you really say under the skin? Yeah, it was just that was like... Under the skin as in Scarlett Johanssen. But that's like a beautiful art film. Right.

Yeah. It was just beautiful. I was upgraded for part too. John Glazer. Yeah. That was a fucking moment. Yeah. That was a fucking moment.

That was a fucking moment. It was thankful. Very thankful. Who won the movie? Mikey? Yeah, I guess. Natasha. Natasha.

I'm trying to fucking honor him because he just passed away. It's why we're doing this. Wow. It's a great performance for him. But yeah, she wins the movie. Craig, what'd you think? Well, you know, Mount Rushmore

of most 90s movie premises, I would say. Just out of control 90s vibes. Can't imagine the audition process for this film and what that was like. Look, this movie's not good, but it's extremely enjoyable. Kind of the perfect blend of that. I respect the hell out of the attempt.

Had no problem with any of the nudity stuff that you guys always claim that I've an issue with. That's what it's about. That's what it's about. It's just when it's randomly in an action film and a girl in a car gets an accident and some extras topless in a hotel and I'm like, all right, maybe I didn't need to be there.

For this, we could have used a little more. What I'm talking about, Craig? Yeah, you know, this was definitely a film where I was like, they grew up so fast. They do. Didn't exactly tell Liz the premise. Oh, Liz, watch this with you? No, no.

I was like, I think I'm going to sit this one out. I'll watch this on my own. I have a feeling where this one's headed. So that's like very passive thumbs up from Craig. Yeah, it's like... I think he enjoyed himself. Very enjoyable, but like, is it a good movie? Yeah.

This is what we did in the 90s. We weren't trying to win Oscars with movies we made sometimes. We were trying to go see... Just like, let's put some fun people in a movie. Six seconds of Natasha Hed's... Good premise. Not all the time. Sometimes you just got a cool idea.

you make a movie and then boom it's on the screen it's the representation it's the Donaldson way yeah it's the Donaldson way it's pre-internet it's pre-online porn

people had to go to the theaters stuff like this we did you would never do this now you wouldn't now now it would have to be something more this is how you got people

in the theater now we have IMAX and Brad Pitt and F1 cars and that's how you get people to go back then it was like Natasha Andrews

naked horny alien Chris in the same vein of you're like what if this lady was just a six I think it'd be really funny if it was, it was just a guy and he was kind of ugly and he couldn't get any girls.

So he had to just like get a job and have a wife. John Lovitz. That's right. He's like, well, I guess John Lovitz. I guess I got to develop a personality now. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Craig Coralbeck, Jack Sanders. Ronick, thank you. Dan. See, Art. Good to see you. Good to see. You can't reason with a son. Trust us.

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