The Rewatchables - ‘The Hand That Rocks the Cradle’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Joanna Robinson
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We have a nice home here.
Somebody bad has come into our house.
This is a foundation.
This movie lays of 35 years and counting of people just recreating this movie.
What is it?
What is it about that theme?
That we've invited someone into our home.
Who is bad intentions.
It's everyone's primal fear, right?
You've created your safety bubble and something has come here to stand in a nightgown in the rain
and seduce your husband.
Also, beyond even like the inviting somebody into their house,
it's the, what if I'm not a good parent?
What if I'm an inadequate partner to my spouse?
What if, what if, what if?
The stuff that keeps people up at night,
and from hell movies dramatize that.
What if I,
what if I get to bring something to FedEx?
What do you like the most about from hell movies?
I think it's just that everybody,
it's like a shared understanding,
in the audience. These were great theater movies. But even now when you're watching it,
like I was watching this with my wife, like when you're watching it, you can feel like how
relatable the tension is because even if nothing like this has ever happened to you,
you have feared it. Everybody has these shared fears often baked into like a middle class
existence of like, I think everything is okay, right? I think everything's going to be fine.
And then it could just be one thing topples it all over.
And my favorite is, like, roommate from hell, like single white female in Pacific Heights.
But having the nanny from hell gets it like some really, really deep dark stuff.
What about you?
Yeah, I think also this is just so huge on cable and VHS when we were younger.
This played all the time.
And I think that I completely, like, even when we're too young to know what it was like to be an inadequate parent or an inadequate partner,
you're just sort of like, what if there's a stranger who's come to your home to rip your family apart?
and all of their schemes are very good and well executed, and what can you do?
You know, someone's wearing a button down, a white button down, and a smile, and they're here to tear it all down.
It's right around here was when, like, they started doing the TV movies that would always have people from, like, 9-0-2-0 and Melrose Place and party of a five.
Lifetime's kicking off.
Yeah, yeah.
Lifetime was kicking off, too, but it was all of this happened at the same time, and it was always like, you shouldn't have fallen for this person.
You're being stalked by your boyfriend or ex-husband.
You have a nanny that came in your house, but she has the wrong intentions.
There's a neighbor next door.
You got to stay.
And it just became this cottage industry.
And I got to say, I love it.
It's great.
Even when it's bad, it's good.
But I think what's interesting about this movie is it's really well done.
Yeah.
It has a really good director.
It's acted well.
Rebecca de Mornay is amazing in this.
But I was thinking this says the three staples, or three of the staples,
from a From Hell movie.
The seemingly smart character
who's actually an idiot and misses
20 glaring red flags.
You have to have this.
You have to have the person where you're watching along
and you're just like,
how can you not see this?
So in this one, it's the mom, obviously.
The red dress gets ruined.
The baby suddenly won't breastfeed.
The FedEx envelope disappears.
Solomon, the beloved special needs,
Gardner guy.
Accused to pedophilia.
Yeah, he's now Jeffrey Epstein.
daughter now hates them.
Marlene, the best friend,
might be having an affair with the husband,
and then she dies in the greenhouse,
and then all of her inhalers get emptied out.
And she's like, huh, there's a lot of red flags here.
And she finally figures it out,
but we're like an hour 30 into the movie.
Do you feel like, would it have worked better for you
if this plan had taken longer to roll out
if Peyton had been there for a long time?
Like a TV series?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Episode four.
She seemed like she was on a schedule.
I don't think she'd like being in a schedule.
in the basement that much.
Yeah, she was like
its husband or bust for me.
Yeah, she was like, I want that beard.
Kind of side-eyed me when I was picking up the ice cubes
that time. So that's one.
The ice cubes. See, the second
one that they usually put in there
is there's an unexplained murder
usually around the two-thirds mark.
Somebody dies. Yeah.
And in the lifetime movies, you know right away
because it's always like somebody's friend
or somebody's boss or co-worker
and they just start getting a little nosy
and you're like, oh boy, this person
ended up in or whatever.
So in this case, it was Marlene.
And then the third one, which is really unique to this movie,
and I think one of the reasons my wife loves it so much is it has a bunch of these moments
where you're just watching going, oh, no.
Like Dr. Mott's doing the examination.
And he puts the glove on and then he takes it out.
It's like, oh, no.
The breastfeeding scene the first time, which is like, oh, no.
Solomon catching her breastfeeding?
Solomon catching her.
her being mean to Solomon
Yeah, that's another one, the
asthma attack, and then the surprise party.
Claire, there's people in here.
I think that's part of this script.
Like, when we were joking on the text threat
about sort of, you know,
fear of not fighting your inhaler,
fear of a greenhouse, shattering,
like fear of you having a horrible fight
with your husband when everyone you know is in the next room.
There are all these things where it's just sort of like,
yeah, I am afraid of that.
I've never had asthma, but I am always worried about
where people's in.
and Haralazar. And I've not, I told you,
I've not been in a greenhouse since I saw
this movie. I'm terrified.
Like, why are half a play? It's not ruined
greenhouses. Why are our house is made of glass?
Why would you ever go in there? There's also like
this screenplay by Amanda Silver.
That was like her thesis project, I think, from film school.
Right. And I think now, Joe
and I both were both about to start
talking about Cape Fear at some point, like
coming out on Apple TV. Another really
good example of a kind of from hell movie.
Oh, definitely. And
is incredibly rewarding because of how tight it is
and how much is left off screen.
Like, you know, what we don't have to sit through.
This movie partially works because
we don't have to spend an episode
getting into Marlene and Claire's friendship.
It's like, it's gestured at, it's understood.
Yeah, you know their buddies.
I was actually, like, incredibly grateful this wasn't a TV show.
Because, you know, a friend of mine
came to me asking for a TV recommendation the other day
and she started rattling off what she's been watching.
I was like, why are you watching all of these mommy murder shows,
which are just such a thing right now?
But I don't need to watch eight episodes or 10 episodes
of every bend of the plot or every backstory for every character.
Like, I don't need Peyton's entire backstory to understand why she's here.
And I'm so grateful that this is a movie.
Yeah.
Like this would be, I think, I mean, they remade the movie.
We can talk about the remake if we want to.
But like, the temptation to make this into a limited series must be, you know.
Unbearable.
Yeah.
Yeah, Marlene, I don't need her backstory.
She comes in three times, like a fucking hurricane.
It's great every time.
She's an absolute bitch.
I love her.
Her lipstick is the wrong color for her shade of hair.
She's perfect.
She's got the third car phone in Seattle.
You know what's also awesome about this movie,
but this subgenre that you're celebrating this month is
they're really still the most relevant period pieces that we have
where so much of this movie could be brushed aside with, like,
a Google search.
or whatever.
Yeah.
But the things that people are nervous about
and the things that people fear
and the anxiety that people have
is still prevalent.
It's just translated through different things.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's stuff like my social media account
got hacked or like, I think I got scammed,
or my mother signed up for some weird thing,
and now she's a recurring donor to something
that we don't understand.
She's an organ donor.
Yeah, exactly.
But, like, this stuff is like,
Just the anxieties of modern life are so persistent that it doesn't really matter that it's car phones and chain smoking or if it's your iPhone and other stuff.
That being said, like, even before cell phones on the internet, we did ask for references.
Sure, we did maybe check that letter.
We did occasionally ask for references, you know?
One of the other nanny said, the playground said you might be in somebody.
Debbie, you know Debbie?
I was with your daughter at the playground is how she introduces.
Meanwhile, she doesn't have a nanny.
So it's like, wait, how are you with my daughter at the playground?
Craig, you grew up with the From Hell movie.
Did I?
I don't know.
It's your generation.
This is early 90s, though.
What's like the staple from hell 2000s movie?
You know, it started petering out because it drifted more in the TV.
Because I felt like they really tried to do this for 10 years, culminating in domestic
disturbance, which is, I think, one of the great, one of the great unintentional
comedy movies of the 2000s.
But that was when it started to kind of die.
And then it really drifted into
the lifetime. There was a lot
of black movies that would have the
all-black cast that would basically do the same
premises. And that's still going.
And I think a lot
of it's just moved to true crime.
Like true crime docks and stuff. It's true crime
and it's also like I think some of the
feeling of it can be found
in Ozark.
But yeah, to Joe's
point, like they may presume innocent into a
limited series rather than
remaking presumed innocent now.
Yeah, because you just get more episodes.
So now we would have the backstory
episode with
we would have the backstory episode with Dr.
Motte.
Yeah.
Well, isn't that what all...
Let's go backwards four years with Dr. Montz.
Like, all her fault,
the Sarah Snook show that people
loved on Peacock,
isn't that essentially, like...
That show was horrible and I'd devoured it.
But don't they also do like
each character's backstory is played out?
But that's the problem.
And again, like,
the, the,
the 2025 remake, I didn't watch it, but I was reading sort of what they changed.
And it's just this compulsion to give you a reason why people are from hell.
And I, sometimes I just don't want that.
Biches can be crazy.
Yeah.
I think of the fact that Peyton seems mean before everything else goes wrong anyway.
You know?
Yeah.
Like she, like, I mean, this movie has so many subtle great moments that established that she's cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
But when Solomon meets her and gets the pain on it,
I was like, oh, I'm sorry.
And she fucking devil stares in her split second.
And it's like, oh, no.
That was my first rewind.
I was just like, I got to watch it again.
You know, her, like, Rebecca D.
D. Mornay is so good in this movie.
Let's talk about her because I had written down.
It's her and Glenn Close and fatal attraction in the finals for Best from Hell performance.
Yeah.
She's out of control in this movie.
Sharon Zones out.
She's doing so many different things.
is Sharon, you consider that
from how basic instinct?
I don't know.
It's a middle ground.
What about like...
To me, like, it's...
What about Gone Girl?
Rosamond Pike?
Semi-finals.
Jennifer Jason Lee, single-way female.
Yeah, maybe semi-finals.
What about the jailbait division
of like...
Alicia Silverstone,
Poison Avenue.
Drew Barrymore.
Yeah.
Poison Abbey's dark.
Yeah.
Poison Abbey, Drew Barrymore,
16, has a passion.
And then fair with Tom Scarett who's like 40.
Okay.
And like they have like a sex scene.
I don't think that would be flying now.
What year is this?
This is early 90s.
Like 91 or something like that.
Yeah.
Zoe was home for a month and she loves these movies and we watch the crush because it was
on Tooby.
And 20 minutes in she's like, Dad, how did they make this?
I know.
The crush and the babysitter.
16?
I was like, I don't know.
Different times.
That's a, that's a cursed double feature.
Yeah.
The pressure is another one from that era where you're like,
Holy shit.
Fear is very much in like the lifetime movie.
Yeah.
Every boyfriend is bad actually.
But that's another one that has really good actors.
Like William Peterson's in that.
Walberg, Reese Witherspoon.
Alyssa Milano.
A roller coaster.
De Moray, though.
So we did risky business a while ago.
And she's Lana the prostitute.
And is with Tom Cruise and his lights out.
And every guy my age is in love with her from that point on.
I think that train, that sex scene on that,
is one of the best sex scenes in all of cinema.
Tangerine Dream.
Tandrine Dream.
I don't see ours down with it.
More for the music, though.
And it just never happened for in the 80s.
Slugger's wife, I remember, was a big one with Danny from Caddyshack.
It was a baseball movie, Craig.
He played a home run hitter in the Atlanta Braves.
And she was the titular Slugger's wife?
It was horrible.
It's like a really terrible, terrible.
He just, he looked like he was swinging like a big salami.
It just wasn't.
It just didn't seem like he had a bat.
It was like he was...
Runaway train.
Okay.
Eric Roberts, John Lloyd.
Probably the best one she did.
She made this movie called End God Created Woman.
That was supposed to be...
It was Roger Vadim, whatever his name was.
Yeah, yeah.
And then she made this movie Fed's.
And it just never happened.
And...
I remember her feds.
She apparently was trying to get Tinkerbell and Hook,
lost it to Julie Roberts,
and was like, fuck it, I'm going darker.
and did this.
She looked at a much better Tinkerbell.
Well, and then she had a couple 90s movies,
but it's just like, even when she did prestige for HBO,
it was John in Cincinnati.
She just had bad luck with parts and movies.
And I always thought there was more there, Joe.
I thought she was a really good actress.
I thought she was smoking hot.
And I thought she could be evil or nice depending on the situation.
Her trilogy for me is risky business,
Hand the Rock's Cradle, and then the Three Musketeers,
the 90s three Musketeers.
That was another good one.
She's fantastic in that movie.
She's just always incredible.
And yeah, just didn't pick the right projects, I think.
There's like probably a half a dozen 80s and early 90s movies that you could go through and be like,
oh, I wonder if she could have done Kelly McGillis and Top Gunn?
Or could she have done any number of movies?
That's what she's missing.
She's missing the one big ass, like $100 million where she's just the love interest
like banging it out.
I always thought, like, I wrote that in my notes,
elevated Heather Locklear.
I like that.
Like Heather Locklear goes on Melrose Place and is awesome, right?
She's like the bitch.
But it's like a campy, not great show.
She was a much better actress than that.
But she could, there was a campiness to her in a good way that I just felt like they never figured out.
Yeah, like, what's another one that she could have done that, like.
Well, could she have been basic instinct?
Could she been Sharon Stone?
I feel like she could have.
Yeah, but even to not do another.
sex pot roll, like, what if she did
the Merrill Street part in the River Wild?
Right, of course, Hanson Head has loyalty to her.
She's in our favorite backdraft.
She's great backdrop.
She's really good, isn't it?
But it was always weird to see her just as, like,
somebody's girlfriend in a movie.
It always felt like there was more of a danger.
Like, what are you going to kill this guy?
Yeah.
But it might be the risky business thing.
It might have been because that was the first time we knew her.
Right.
Can I ask you, is there a more interesting
biographical detail than
left Harry Dean's day?
for Tom Cruz.
No.
And then Harry Dean Stanton's showing up on set to be like, where's Tom Cruise?
Yeah.
They must have like a little triangle fight.
It's a great one.
Harry Dean Stanton and Rebecca D. Mornay and Tom Cruise.
Yeah, I don't.
She's two movies short, but she made, she worked the whole time.
It just never really happened.
But she's doing a lot in this movie.
Like that scene when she goes to visit the husband about, hey, I want to plan a surprise party.
And they're just, their blue eyes are just battling for,
two minutes and then she
sashes away with the
stroller. And it's just like
this is just good stuff, man. She's
owning the room. She is this movie.
I think this movie's well
written and obviously, you know, an incredible
director well shot. But DeMorne's
like her ability to change
her facial expression on a dime and
look absolutely terrifying and then honey
sweet the next second. That's
this movie. Yeah, my wife said,
my wife thinks she's great in this movie. She's like,
she's really good at
being an actress, playing a bad person who has to pretend to be an actress.
Yes.
Pretend to be a good person.
She's like, the second layer actress where she's like, oh no.
Yeah.
The baby almost ate the earring, but you know she's full of shit.
Claire, we were so worried about you.
We're so glad you're her eyeballing the red dress when she's trying on the black dress.
Oh, yeah.
You told me you could borrow this.
There's like a million.
Yeah.
So why does this movie resonate with women the way it does?
Why do women love this movie?
I'm, I was watching it.
asking myself that question. And I think part of it has to do with like how inconsequential the
husband is. Yeah. Like he's barely in this movie and it really is just about like the two women and
Julianne Moore. And that's like those are the primary drivers of the story. And so then it just becomes like
very much about women's fears of other women and all. And I like this idea of like the from hell or
bitches be crazy genre or whatever the case may be, there are plenty of reasons for women to not like it.
And this is a movie that really gets to the core of something that's true about women somehow.
Maybe because it has a female screenwriter.
I don't know.
It also starts with like the moment when she sees her on the bus.
She's like, are you the Martels?
And they're walking up.
I'm watching with my wife.
My wife's like, I would have been out, too hot.
You're not living in my house.
You're just not.
Sorry, honey.
I mean, that's what Julian Moore says.
She says it right away.
Why did you bring this person into your house?
Yeah.
I often talked about the, you know, the Latchkey Kid phenomenon.
And when we watch movies from the 80s being like, nobody was watching us.
We were just, you know, from 10 a.m. to 7 p.m.
It was up to us to stay alive.
This is like the adult version of that.
They're like, yeah, you know what?
I just saw you almost get hit by a school bus.
Why don't you come on over?
This is fine.
You can stay for dinner.
I'm sure your letter of recommendation is totally watertight.
It's such bullshit.
Hey, you're going to walk around your nightgown at night?
Yeah.
Dropping ice cubes on the kitchen.
That sounds awesome.
Annabelle Shora.
Yeah.
I think she's great in this movie.
The character's dumb as shit,
but I think she's great in it.
It's so funny that it all comes full circle in the Sopranos
when she plays basically the From Hell part
for as Tony's mistress.
You're talking to two people who have famously not watched the Sopranos?
Not in order.
What?
Not in order.
Like I've seen like runs of episodes.
Did I just out?
No, I've said this before, yeah.
I'll tell you guys what happens.
Tell us.
It's a little later in the run.
The rumor from hell, right?
She's a car salesman.
Uh-huh.
Like a high-end car salesman that Tony becomes infatuated with,
and it becomes a pretty deranged affair.
And she's basically flips parts.
Yeah.
Which makes me wonder, like, could you have flipped parts with these two in this movie?
Would have been interesting.
I don't think it says good.
Yeah.
She auditioned for the other part.
Yeah.
I think she could have done it.
I just don't think.
I think DeMorne is so good as.
Oh, no.
But like her coming off of jungle fever and being like, I'm going to do another.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So she does, she's internal affairs, which we've done.
Reversal Fortune, Jungle Fever, Hand the Rock's Cradle.
And then she's in a movie called The Night We Never Met, that I might be the only one who's ever seen that movie.
Who's in Matthew Broderick?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh.
They're all time sharing an apartment.
It's great.
That's right.
I've seen that.
It's a good movie.
It's gone.
I don't know.
if it exists.
It's not a real movie, but it's a great movie.
And she falls for Matthew Broderick.
They fall for each other without having met each other,
but just sort of like by their presence in the apartment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really an interesting movie.
It's just, I haven't seen it since.
And then she was in Copeland.
Yeah, she's great in Copland.
And then had the Sopranos run.
And it was always a question of...
Yeah.
Well, it's sad, but it was always a question of, man, she was great.
Why wasn't she more stuff?
And it turned out she was one of the biggest Harvey Weinstein victims of all of them.
Like, he actually, like,
sabotaged her career.
But I was thought she was really good.
I was liked her and everything.
It's really interesting to think about them
doing the opposite role.
Because in a traditional maybe way,
you would be like,
De Mornay is better known than Annabelle Schorre,
so she plays the hero in this outs.
But you would always be like,
how could you not tell that this one
is trying to take down Rebecca D'Morne?
Like, it throws you off to be like weirdly like,
I know, I have more.
of an investment in Rebecca D. Mornay as a performer than I do in Annabelle Schior. So I'm like
kind of almost expecting this to work out for her. Also, I do think that there's some blonde
brunette, like, Ginger Marianne kind of thing going on here. Yeah. Like where you're inverting that
somewhat. I can see it. Yeah. But and also this, like the very, like, the preppy, prep from
hell sort of vibe that she's giving here, Rebecca D'Morne, the like button down, pencil skirt,
flat shoes, blonde hair, bangs, like, all of that.
Annabella sure
be a different energy altogether.
She can't quite do that.
Yeah.
One of my wife's biggest issues with the movie is that
the nanny is
like two
she said she's like too lived.
Like her clothes are nice.
She's put together.
It's like, what's the backstory with this lady?
Right.
Again, if she...
Your husband died and your son died
days apart and you have some story
about how they never caught the guy.
But she's like, I just would have had
20 more questions.
Well, yeah.
You would have checked a single reference.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You didn't have an appointment.
You're walking in off the street because you heard about this job at the park.
You're like mid-30s?
You have a letter of reference.
Right.
But like, yeah, there's nothing else.
Like, what about, does she give her a Social Security number to pay her or is it cash under the table?
Yeah.
Seattle in the 90s.
Picking nets is going to be incredible.
We're not ripping through all the nitpicks because I have 20 more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then we have our guy Ernie Hudson.
Big big
2026 for Ernie
on the rewatchables
He's this character
And he's in Ghostbusters
And he's in Oz
On a 12 year span
I think Ernie Hudson's awesome
In this movie
Now if this came out now
The what's age of worst
With Ernie Hudson is
They would just not have
A non-special needs actor
Playing a special needs person
With that said
I think he's doing a lot
In this movie
And it's like Solomon
Is really important
As like the proxy
Of the audience
Come on
He's the only one who knows.
His quote-unquote, innocent eyes see the true evil in the house.
The shot of his bike by the trash can when, like, in the final sequence,
and you're like, oh, Solomon's on the property somewhere.
He'll save the day.
This is, I love this movie.
This character is impossible.
It's, like, ridiculous.
You don't like the savior, the savior gardener who's already been sent packing,
but is some of a mother in the house anyway?
having a child's underwear in his toolbox, but they're like,
but he's working again.
Outdoor privileges.
Yeah.
Tell the little kid, hey, so Solomon's got another job.
It's like he did?
They didn't put her in the child in therapy?
Like, what are we doing?
Like, what's happening?
A lot of unanswered questions.
Directed by Curtis Hanson,
who's in a run of bad influence hand the rocks,
Cratory, River Wild,
LA Confidential, and Wonderboys.
I love Wonder Boys.
So he says that LA Confidential
wouldn't have happened without this.
movie.
It's a success.
Yeah.
This movie is such a huge success.
And River Wild is such a huge success.
Then he got a blank check to make LA Confidential, one of our great.
Would you have bought that?
The same director from LA Confidential did this movie?
I feel like directors used to just really bounce around more than they do now in terms of genre.
Now it's like, oh, Denisville Nouve, like, I know what that's going to look like.
Yeah.
He's like.
In the 90s, it feels like they were just picking stories they liked and it could be anything.
The best safe pair of hands in Hollywood for a while.
Where it was just like he can make pretty much.
any genre movie you want.
There's not really an intrusive sense of style,
but you're never like, this is a dumb shot
or this is a weirdly paced moment.
It's all very well done.
Very competent.
It's funny.
Bad influence was on the cutting room floor
from Helmut.
I'm a big fan.
It's not too late.
What?
Not too late?
You like that movie?
To bring it back.
Tube is just cranking bad.
Bad influence is Spade.
It just flashes it.
Yeah, Spader.
Yeah, I do like that movie.
Rob Lois, the bad boy.
That's right.
He becomes friends with Spader.
And Spader's name is like Michael and he starts calling him Mick.
It's like they go out for the night.
Come on, Mick, we're going out.
And just like absolutely torments.
He loves yuppies from hell.
And then I can see the connective tissue between River Wild in this movie.
Absolutely.
Like, definitely.
That's the river from hell.
Yeah.
So where do we stand on River Wild?
because that was another...
It's dope.
I love that movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's like a, I don't know,
hiking guide from hell.
What do we call that one?
It's also not a bad remake.
The Netflix version of it.
Oh, I haven't seen the Netflix version.
Adam Brody plays the kind of Kevin Bacon part.
Oh, fun.
I love when Brody goes bad.
This film's title is taken from the 1865 poem
by William Ross Wallace.
I know you have his collected works.
They really lay that on kind of thick.
Yeah.
They lay on that.
They lay more than, like,
what's that phrase?
What's that crazy poem?
What is that?
We always quote that poem.
That was it?
Pirates of Penzance.
Just cranking.
And Pinafore.
Yeah.
This is a real Gilbert and Sullivan joint here.
That's all they listen to in this house.
$11.9 million budget made $140 million in 1992.
Incredible.
So this is the same year as single-way female.
This is the year from hell really blossoms.
Because we have basic instinct, which is not, I don't consider that a from-hell movie,
but that's 92.
This movie and then single-way female and then Hollywood's like, all right.
let's keep banking those.
And then concurrently...
Women are crazy.
Well, concurrently, Skinimax is like, let's...
Whatever you guys don't make...
Shannon Tweed.
Yeah.
Are there any rejected scripts for you guys?
Let's rip those out.
Roger Ebert, three stars.
Yeah.
The film worked.
Glowing praise from Raj.
Touches on a fear, and that's why it appeals to us, says Rush.
He praised that Rebecca de Mornay.
DeMorne or D-Morne?
D-Morne.
Why did I say D-Mor-Mor-N-Mor-Mor-A.
D-Mor-Mor-Mor-A.
D-Morne.
DeMorne.
A very good job, a very sound job of being the villainous in this film.
And I think it's an effective performance.
Villanist, not a word we use enough.
Let's bring it back.
It's a good one.
Still time.
Do you think that D'Aemorté would be a good left-wing option for Mbop?
Mbop.
Mbap.
I don't know why you were like, there's not 13 M's here.
I just struggled.
You spun out on it.
Sarah, it's hard to host.
I know, man.
Look, it's like everybody's cocky until it's time for the World Cup.
It's like, shit, this guy's name.
Bop it.
Yeah.
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Most rewatchable scene,
look, this isn't 100,
rewatchable, but it's really good.
Dr. Mock gets creepy.
Wow. Jesus Christ.
I just, we have to talk about it.
I wouldn't put this as a finalist.
We were skipping the first 20 minutes, honestly, yeah.
No, this scene is like, we are off.
The gloves are off.
Yeah.
Everything about this guy.
When he sends the nurse out, why don't you give him the news?
I got this.
Yeah.
And the way she's playing the scene, too, where she's like,
huh.
And then you realize, she's slowly realizing this guy's a psycho.
This is so realistic to be, you know, you have to go get breast exams.
You have to go get gynecological exams.
And it's just sort of like, is this how this is usually done?
Is there something going on here?
And it's often like right on the border there in these cases.
This is one of the many reasons why I think I know my wife loves this movie.
But it's a lot of like everyday things that happen where it's like your worst nightmare of this moment.
And you were right. It was wrong.
Yeah.
That nanny was trying to fuck your husband.
Right.
Yeah.
You know?
That's right. You're not paranoid if somebody is really trying to get you.
Dr. Matt's perfectly creepy.
I wanted to nominate him for Dion Waiters, but I don't want him to win.
Well, because there's a, should we rename this for this person, Dion Weir's performance in this movie, but he's up there.
When he starts massaging her stomach.
Yeah.
And he's just like, almost like he's playing the piano and she's like, it's really terrifying.
The closest thing I've ever come to this is when I got a colonoscis.
could be in right before I passed out.
The guy was like,
love the pod, by the way.
Oh, no.
And then your spint,
too,
I was like,
no,
because I think the,
whatever they give you
the pro pro propoil or whatever,
I was just like,
absolutely,
that's just like,
that didn't really happen.
Yeah.
Love the pod.
Love the pod,
by the way.
Save that for,
what if you done it after?
Would that have been?
That would have been fine,
but I don't know.
God.
fell a little tender
afterwards. This I was like, I'm
high. You can tell me whatever. I would just say
don't keep it to yourself. Or say
after. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.
Love the pond.
Next
We watch. Well, Peyton meets Claire and Solomon.
A scene just loaded with nipicks.
Just walking up,
looking for the house. Where'd you park?
What nanny at the park?
Who is it? You stepped in front of a school bus?
Yeah. So wait,
you lost your job, but you're
not going to, but you weren't. I
And Claire's just in.
Say, yeah, come on in.
Oh, I'll leave you alone with our, with my baby as I talk to Solomon.
Here, me and my baby.
Like, she's like, she's great.
Let's snatch her up.
Yeah.
He's a little horn dog.
No second interview.
Let's go.
She's like, you know, nanny's talk.
Good.
No reference.
Toss this side.
I lost my husband and baby within a few days.
No follow-up questions for me.
Sounds right.
Tough break.
Yeah.
So she hires a hot nanny with no references.
within six months
that is in the baby room.
You guys have seen the, obviously,
as Sidney-Divotay's,
The House Maid.
I have not seen The House Maid.
I watched it this morning
because I was like,
is this like a...
I didn't know exactly the plot of the Housemaid,
and I was like,
is it is...
No, it is, but the opening
is almost exactly the same.
The Housemaid is terrible,
like, terrible.
And it made like 300 million hours.
It made so much money.
But proving it again,
people love this genre.
It's the perfect date movie.
It's the perfect...
No, I mean, there are reasons
inside of the plot of that movie
that there's like,
we're not bothering with references,
and here's your weird little
Garrett room,
and it's all the same.
And she's an ex-convict?
Yeah.
And she looks like Cindy Sweeney.
Next rewatchable.
This won't win, but it has to be mentioned,
the 3 a.m.
Breastfeeding.
Sets the alarm.
Oh, that's the thing.
She's gonna get up with the baby.
Yeah. Oh.
Oh, no.
Gas from the audience.
Oh, no.
The double date with Julianne Moore.
Can't wait to talk to her later.
Incredible.
Never let an attractive woman in a power position in your home.
Remember that one, Craig?
Yeah, remember that one, Craig.
We get multiple smoking.
Yeah.
And also Michael being like, can I have a cigarette, which is a real...
Let me have one of those.
Yeah.
What about the no hand smoking while driving?
It's iconic.
Yeah, just like the cigarette dangling.
The hand that rife.
the cradle is the hand that rules the world.
Yeah.
Bonus points.
Said the title.
My favorites.
That's the name of the show.
When I'm dead, that'll be the world.
The Bill Simmons Award for saying the title in the script.
When that happens, does it make more sense to you that Amanda Silver went from writing this later to
being behind all the Apes movies and also the Avatar sequels?
Yeah.
Is that true?
Yeah.
She does very well for herself.
Yeah.
She's made a ton of money on apes movies and the avatars.
I'm not surprised because this movie's super smart.
It's very well constructed.
So it makes sense that she figured out apes.
The lady in the park telling Peyton she has her baby's eyes.
And our girl Becky, Becky DeMorne.
Yeah.
Does the...
Really?
You're like, oh, man, here we go.
Is this also when Peyton...
checks Roth, the little kid.
Right in there. I'm limping those two together.
Peyton fucked with the little kid.
Peyton at the park is a good scene, yeah.
Yeah.
I like when she has like a good angry walk across
the park where it's like, oh no.
And then she pulls the kid, it's like definitely, you know.
She like twists his arm behind his back.
It's real child abuse going on.
But it feels like benevolent child abuse.
But it's okay. His arm's going to be fine.
And he had it coming.
And all of his friends are like,
that was so cool.
Maybe she scared him straight.
Maybe he's going to be.
right now.
The FedEx envelope disappears.
Don't wait till the last day, Michael.
If you're an asthmatic, do you live in Seattle?
There's a lot of hills.
I just have questions about it.
A lot of rain?
Is rain bad for asthma?
Is rain bad for asthma?
Yeah, it brings up shit.
Does it?
Yeah.
Doesn't it?
I don't think.
I think rain usually gets rid.
It clears out the air.
I think that's what people think, but it's the opposite.
Doesn't rain kick up stuff?
You should have done that in RFK voice.
Actually, the rain.
The rain is the worst.
Actually, the rink.
I've got root asthma vaccines.
I think the first rain kicks up stuff.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
I guess if it rains every day, nothing gets kicked up.
Yeah, it's constantly clean in Seattle.
Bring the FedEx envelope to FedEx yourself.
Don't give that one of the way.
Such a dickhead move.
It's a once every three months thing.
You got to, really, you're going to trust that to somebody else.
Drive it yourself.
I mean, I do think you can give your wife an important document to mail.
Like, it would be like I wouldn't have given my wife.
I have a copy of it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Hey, Carrie, will you take this rewatchables rundown?
I have no other copies.
Here.
Chris needs it.
Yeah.
I thought that was ridiculous.
Wait, so that's been rewatchable.
We're just into ridiculous?
I'm just going through all the scenes.
I like when she steals the envelope, but Dumb Claire doesn't realize it has an asthma attack.
I like when she goes nuts in the bathroom stall.
Oh, just ripping it up.
Yeah.
And then it starts banging shit with the plunger.
Yeah.
I'm like, that's evidence.
Why would you leave all that evidence behind it in a bathroom?
I totally heard that.
Yeah.
Claire's outside the door.
She's like, yeah, the bathroom's right there.
And she's like, good because I have to destroy it.
She has two good freakout scenes.
The second one near the end when she's trying to break open the door.
And DeMorna is just like...
Oh, yeah.
Her shining audition.
Yeah.
She's really going nuts.
Yeah.
The poker.
She's great with a shovel.
She learned all that in the Slugger's wife.
Yeah, yeah.
This is in the running for most rewatchable.
Good sluggers' wife, reference.
Peyton,
Peyton be mean to Solomon.
That's mine.
Are you a retard?
Are you a retard?
He's like, no.
And then the slap.
Did you like looking at me?
That seems insane.
My version of the story will be better.
1999.
It's really great.
I love Solomon.
It's really hurtful when she's that mean to him.
It's so fucked up, yeah.
It really ties in like...
Just that line is an opener
and you're just like,
what movie am I watching?
Yeah, she's also like,
that's more evidence of like
you were fucked up before
your sexually abusive husband died, you know?
Right.
From this moment on,
the movie is off the rails.
I feel like I could tell by
the amount of pipe railing that they had
their house that she was mentally unwell
before this all started.
The smoking date to plan the party,
I put this in just for C.R.
Julian Moore and Matt McCoy
It's on
It is on between Marlene and Michael
Yeah I think there might have been a
She might have blown him in the car
I will say I have never done that with another woman
Yeah
Like
Chain smoking at a bar late at night
To plan my wife's birthday
Especially when your wife knows you only smoke
I know her
Yes
And then he doesn't even like
Swish with some scope or something like that
He gives her a double kiss
Yeah double kiss when he does a cigarette mouth
I've come home and I'm super excited.
Like, I'm all fired up from the bar.
From the blow job in the car?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, he's also as a beard.
Like, you got to, like, if you're hiding in the smoking evidence after,
you got to go into the bathroom before you leave the bar.
Yeah, you got to do the soap.
You got to do the soak.
You have to.
Thank you so much.
I make that reference all the time and people look at me blankly.
He comes in.
He comes in.
But no, he just comes right in.
My wife likes to remind me of how, like,
My whole thing would be like, I'm going to have this one cigarette before I go into like Easter dinner or anything important.
It's just like, so that I don't have to go out afterwards or like in the middle of dinner.
And she's like, then you would like triple inhale like an entire camel light and come in and just smell like Mickey Roark.
Everybody would be like, Jesus Christ.
This guy just rolled out of good.
And you're like, the party's here.
Well, Claire's somehow not threatened at all by Marlene or the nanny.
Because Marley's a girl's girl, honestly.
Claire really only cares about plant life.
I don't know, but she clearly has issues with that Marlene was the husband's first love.
Right?
Only because DeMorne is like stirring it up.
No, but even before that, come on.
That's a whiff weird.
They seem like they used to be tight and now it's ones every like two months they see each other.
Definitely they have...
Life gets in the way.
Life does get in the way.
I do find that like the way that Julia Moore comes in.
hot and she's like, this chick?
Are you kidding me? Get her out of here?
Yeah. And then in terms of
investigative journalism, Julianne Moore's
on the case. So I kind of feel like she's
kind of a girl girl. She's like
basically like the slightly nicer
version of Peyton. So she's like, game
recognizes game. I know a crazy one
I love that. I love her.
To jump on those two points,
Marlene's basically probably broke up with the husband,
right? Oh, for sure.
So it's like they're buddies.
But deep down she knows, like
That could have been my husband.
Yeah.
I just didn't want it.
I'm in the power scene.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't want a scientist.
Claire yell.
Oh, smoking date to plan the party into Peyton hitting on Michael at the, yeah.
Claire yells at Michael with the surprise party happening in the next room.
Unbelievable.
Really tough.
Unbelievable.
Everybody's here.
Everybody's here.
Thing turns into curb for a second.
Greenhouse murder.
I love that apple.
eating? Yeah.
A green apple.
It's just like...
That's how I eat a green apple.
Is it? Yeah.
I love green apples and that's how I eat them
because... Really? It's how my grandpa ate them
and that's how you... You like whittle it.
Yeah, you carve it. Wow.
Do you empty inhalers with the same orgasmic look on your face or no?
I stopped to look at myself in the mirror and I go, yeah, I'm doing it about to murder someone.
Empting nine aspenhalers.
Yeah.
Claire punches Peyton.
Great.
Pretty good right hook.
Right into the dining room table.
Dr. Mott's wife.
And then the big fight scene.
It's my family.
A lot of good attic fight scenes over the years.
Sure.
I don't know what your favorite one is, CR.
You know,
anytime we go in the attic, shit's going down.
That's a niche genre.
Yeah.
Attic fight scene pyramid.
Let's do it.
There's been some good ones.
Sometimes somebody will just fall through the attic.
They never really fight in the attic of home alone, do they?
I'm trying to think.
Is there fighting the attic of the money pit?
Oh, yeah.
What's your most
rewatchable scene.
I think I'm going with Marlene's death.
It's really like the way that she designs the greenhouse to collapse so that when the
door opens and it's just awful.
Like getting showered with plate glass would be really, really bad way to go.
You think that would kill you?
It depends.
Like, I was looking for a shard in like the jugular or something like that.
Do you know what I mean?
I had this later in picking.
I don't think she hunches down, like if you give the ceiling your back, you
can survive. But if like your neck's here
and a shard hits you know, like, you remember a nice guy
where he punches the glass and like his wrist
is just exploding with blood?
Like, imagine that times 40.
I just don't know if it's, if the ceiling, the roof
is high enough to create that much velocity to impale
you like that. Yeah. Oh.
I had it as my number one picking it.
I don't think you'd die.
Well, it doesn't really matter because it's not like Peyton was going to
let her live. Yeah.
I think what... I think if she was just dazed, she would have taken
a shard and just like stabbed it in her neck anyway.
But I think what Joe said is the right point. It should have been
one of the shards, like, she's like this.
One of the shards right of the neck or like...
She should have a piece of glass sticking out of her neck.
Yeah.
Otherwise, you're just getting shab with her.
Instead, it's just like a genteel trickle of blood like out of her nose.
Yeah, you can duck and cover.
It could cut your like, what's that leg artery that just like...
Femoral, femoral.
Yeah. That could have been the other one.
That's not my favorite scene.
Mine is when she's mean to Solomon.
Yeah.
That scene's amazing.
I just can't believe.
There's just no way in 2000.
26, they would have a scene like that.
No.
The Solomon character does not exist in 2020.
Yeah.
And he's so, like, terrified.
And she just slaps him.
It's so good.
What's the most 1992 thing about this movie, Joanna?
That a scientist could live in that house.
So this is 808 North Yakima Street in Seattle.
It's an actual place.
And I looked it up on Zillow.
Right now it's $1.8 million.
And this guy's a scientist who does work with the EPA.
Like, he's not living in that house.
Yeah.
And he's still got a FedEx's own applications for stuff.
So he's not on retainer anywhere.
In real life, they're living in an apartment and Claire is still working at the coffee house down.
Right.
Claire doesn't have a job.
They're hiring live-in work, you know, and like I don't know what they're paying Solomon or if that's just like through the organization.
I think that was like a charity thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I'm just like, and they're hoping for more kids along the way.
I'm just like this is unreasonable and a science.
If he was in tech, maybe.
Yeah.
And it's, Claire's big project being like, I'm going to do some garden.
is not really like the number one.
Like, well, I'm getting pulled away from my two kids here, you know,
so we got to get some job care.
Yeah, we got to get a living home.
I think you could garden and keep an eye on the kids personally, but, you know.
What do you have for your 92?
Chain smoking at work.
Yeah.
A little late for chain smoking at work, I think.
But it is Marlene puffing away while she's like, what do you want to tip?
She's so great.
I have a, I have six.
seven things.
Julian Moore
not playing the lead
female role.
Yeah.
That could only have
happened before
like 1995.
Matt McCoy's
hair beard combo.
Elite.
Just specific to
the early 90s.
Also,
same as the
sleeping with the
enemy guy that she
falls for.
Not that,
not,
Laura!
Not that guy,
but the other guy.
The theater teacher.
Yeah.
It was this weird
two-year stretch
where longer hair,
little moot,
and then like a big
bushy beard.
And kind of like a vague,
I'm in the
sciences.
Very Dr. Quinn
Medicine woman.
Yeah.
Suitcases without wheels.
She shows up.
She carrying the suitcase.
No references or no Googling of a danny.
I just think in 2006, no way.
There's a Sony baby call at one point.
I don't think they'd make those anymore, but I do think that was her own.
So just moved on to bigger and better things.
There's a lack of crest white strips in this movie that's really apparent.
I'm just going to go there.
It's kind of mean.
Julianne Moore especially.
Yeah, Julianne went everybody in the movie.
teeth bleached after this movie.
This was an early 90s thing.
Just in time for Jurassic Park 3 or whatever she was in.
And then going to the library.
The loss world put some respect.
Going to the library to research news events.
Microfish.
Microfish is on my list too.
This was...
I love microfiche.
I remember senior in college and then grad school,
going to the library like a lot for shit like that.
And two years later, you just didn't have to anymore.
It was over.
There's also like something to be said for how nice the FedEx looks that they go to.
Yeah.
Like, it's like a pretty nice-looking storefront, like, kind of counter that they've got there.
But yeah, this has got some great.
Microfiche and, like, enhance, enhance, enhance on the microfiche.
Very good.
That was, like, if you look through those long enough, you just started to go cross-side.
I love a microfiche moment in a movie.
Like, in Pelican Brief, I think they're in microfiche.
Like, that's always a great move.
Yeah.
92 Sonics, we want it.
Not.
That wasn't mentioned.
Okay.
When you see 1992 movies, does it look like a better or a worse time to live?
Better, which I think is kind of like all the rage now is to say that, but I do think that there's like a...
That's where the backroom started.
That's right.
The 89 earthquake.
I think the feeling of the, like, just right before the tech boom in the 90s.
It's simple times.
Yeah.
The Floyd Gondale, butter in my ass and lollipops in my mouth award for something I just enjoy.
I can't speak.
What do you have?
Julian Moore being an unapologetic bitch in this movie.
I just really loved it.
She's in character the entire movie and not wavering once in a year.
Julianne Moore could have stolen my husband with one arm tied behind her back but doesn't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do you have?
That's it.
Like Julianne Moore.
I have one.
It's really for CR.
People hiding their smoking habits in a movie.
It's just so relatable.
Just fucking love it.
When she pulls the cigarettes out.
at dinner and he's had two drinks and he's like
can I have one of those? He's like, oh yeah.
But when she's like, he only smokes around you, I'm like,
that's a fucking problem. That's tough.
That's tough. That's like you're the fucking best.
You bring it out of him.
You know that they had like such a long fight about that going home.
Oh, yeah.
So when she smokes, it's okay, huh?
And then watching after with, like,
we talked about that scene when he kisses her and it's clear she been,
but like just all the machinations you have to do
if you had smoke, but you don't want her to find out.
and you're just watching it going,
do this, this, and this.
This is where we have to give Peyton credit.
She's a great improviser,
and she knows exactly,
she lifted the lighter,
of all things, the lighter.
Yeah.
To put in his coat pocket.
Well, this leads us to a bonus smoking category.
The Champan, I brought my own pack award,
excellence in on-screen smoking,
combined with the Edie Falco and Copland Award
for the character that got three times hotter by smoking.
Julian Moore, come on down.
Yeah.
It did great.
Really felt like she was probably
banging out two packs a day
in the stage of her life.
She got called up to the majors on this one.
There's like a lot of ash on the one
that she's smoking in the car.
Also, again, her incorrect...
The no hands in the car is out of control.
Do you know what that character 100%
has? A full car ash tray.
Oh yeah.
It fucking reeks.
Right next to her car phone.
No, what's...
What else she has is the glove compartment
has three extra packs.
Yes.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like she bought like six at the gas station.
Plus her super bright lipstick just like on all the filters too.
Lipsick on a cigarette filter.
Her disappointment of only having matches is great.
Like she's,
we've always talked about when you own a lighter,
it's like the next,
it's like moving in with your girlfriend basically for smoking.
You've committed.
What about the cigarette case?
Matches is like they sleep over,
but they just have a two-price.
Cigarette case.
Yes.
Oh, cigarette cases.
Yeah.
If you have a cigarette case and lighter, like,
you're just going to be dead when you're 50.
And somebody's like, can I bum a light?
you're like, I am watching you light it.
And I'm like putting my hand out to be like,
we're not walking off with this one.
What was the most expensive lighter you ever had?
I got a lighter for my birthday from like anthropology that was World War I like trench style.
So it had like a wind blocker.
It was like a zippo, but it was like really good for lighting in the wind.
Yeah.
I had an Art Deco one that sort of like slid back and the light came up out of the top.
Former smoker?
Cloves only.
In true 90s,
and I did have a cigarette case.
I got an engraved lighter in the 90s from somebody once.
That's nice.
Lost it.
Did you ever have any novelty, like, naked lady lighters?
No.
No, I realized pretty early.
I did not.
I realized pretty early.
How many?
Like gas station ones where, like, her bikini would fall off as the lighter fluid went down.
Yeah.
I was always a match.
How old were you when you had that?
Oh, yeah.
We always threw that face.
I just was always matching.
What's age the best?
Could you do snap match?
Could you like...
At that level.
All right.
What stage the best?
Evil nannies?
Yeah.
Yes.
Sure.
Evil nannies.
True crime has helped the evil nanny.
Here's what I think.
Genre.
I think now, especially having watched the housemaid and other of the genre,
we're really afraid to let women just be evil.
And I think we should just let women be evil.
It's fine.
I think it's perfectly feminist to let women be evil.
I am in the camp of all types of people should get to be evil in movies
without us having like think pieces about it.
Yeah.
Like let's just get weird again.
We've gone so far in the other direction that with like the house, spoiler to the housemaid
or sirens, the Julianne Moore Netflix show that was horrible.
Horrible.
We've like swung into you think she's crazy, but actually it's the husband is the problem,
you know, and it's just like women can be evil.
Women can do anything, including being evil.
What stage is the best?
Asthma wheezing?
It's a good central, like,
Achilles heel for a character.
Yeah.
Asthma, yeah.
When do you want to do your asthma monologue, Craig,
later or now?
I can use it for my flex.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's good because it's, like,
weakness, you feel like,
you know, it's like the kryptonite of the character.
She can't take stress.
You know what I mean?
Like, but I'm like, I'm the Iron Lady.
Like, these kids can't stress me out.
Again, in the improvisation front,
I've killed, okay, I had to waste my greenhouse trap on Julianne Moore.
Oh, well.
Okay, I can set this up now as a domino effect to still kill her anyway.
Yeah.
Because I've emptied all of her inhalers.
Yeah.
And it's just like, what can't this woman do?
How, what was the threshold for an asthma attack for her?
Like, if they were arguing about what movie to go do and she's like, the FedEx thing is like a real, like,
FedEx plus a steep help.
Does this freak you out?
Like, what, like, does life just make you have an asthma attack?
Like sometimes FedEx
you won't bring the envelope
by accident.
I have a couple more
What do you have?
Just early 90s,
Seattle as a location,
both in terms of
its cultural relevance
that wound up aging the vest
but it just looks great.
It's got great architecture,
great topography
for like your sand hills.
It feels like that one hill
that the FedEx hill.
Yeah.
I feel like that hill
has been in like 40 movies.
It's right.
Was it the hill in the vanishing
where Jeff Bridges kills?
Oh, maybe.
At the bottom of that hill,
I believe.
is where Pikes Place is.
So it's just like right, like, that downtown.
It's like maybe the best hill of all the hills to show that you're in Seattle.
But I feel like there's been a bunch of stuff there.
I was thinking about putting this in Apex Mountain because Singles is also 92.
And Sleepless in Seattle is 93.
Yeah.
So, like, Seattle's just like having its time.
And then music is going.
Yeah.
Xavier McDaniel is going.
Music's going.
What's happening?
CR?
Why do you think they did Gilbert and Sullivan instead of Grunge?
I don't know.
That's the thing.
It's like, you know that Michael is like, I think I might go see.
Downgarden play.
He's wearing flannel.
He's ready.
The music box.
Yeah.
I have, for what's age the best,
the horny husband friend that comes over and sees the nanny for the first time.
I have,
and he's like,
boy, yoyoyoing.
Different category for this guy.
Yeah.
He's just in heat.
But they always have to do that in a movie where, like,
somebody leave the room and the one guy would be the other guy.
Whoa.
So I had him in Butch's girlfriend.
Do you think that it's realistic that Marlene would have such a simp as a husband,
as a husband, or do you think
it's like, this is the guy that she is
like kind of running? Oh, I think that guy
was super fun.
I just think his scenes got cut out.
I think that guy
was a fun hang. We just didn't
get enough minutes. Mr. Craven?
Yeah. I think that guy.
Invite him over. Because the thing is
to oggle your nanny. He's cool
with Marlene and his
buddy. Yeah. Which means he's cool.
Like, he just, he's amused by
everything, so I think he was a good at. He seems like
happy hour starts at 3.40.
100%. But yeah, absolutely
she's running him. And absolutely she makes all
the money in that relationship. That guy had six
Sonics tickets.
He knew...
He's there on the ground floor of Ken Griffey Jr.
Yeah, that guy that's making shit
happen in Seattle.
He knew the Griffey's.
Yeah.
I also have a really good little girl performance.
Yeah.
Matt O'Zem is good in this movie.
She's great. And they give her a character.
Like she actually gets to have like influence on the plot.
Yeah.
Any other would say it's the best for you?
No.
Okay.
Great Shot Order Award.
I don't know.
C.R.
What you got?
I like Ms. Mott stepping out from the bus.
Like when she sees the bus stop and then she kind of just emerges from a side.
It's such so ominous.
It's like who would stop a school bus like that?
But then she has like a little bit of the sugar going where she's like,
thanks for stopping for me.
But it's like, this is the devil just walked out.
I had a, when.
when Claire finally passes out from the...
Oh, and she's like flopping fish on the door.
Yeah.
It looks like she's dead.
I have...
I mean, I like the glass shattering,
maybe because it made me fear greenhouses forever,
but the glass shattering down from the greenhouse.
But more importantly,
when the dumb husband, Matt McCoy,
goes downstairs and he's like,
oh, it's just the alarm clock,
like, no need to worry.
And he comes up the stairs.
And she just, like, in a red cardigan,
like, pops out from around the corner with the shovel.
and you get a little horror movie cue when she does it.
And then she just smacks him.
It's great.
I literally jumped.
He somehow breaks both his legs falling seven feasts.
And Claire's kind of like, I'll deal with you later.
Yeah.
And then later, she's like, should we go see Daddy when everything's fine?
She's like, let's go see Daddy who's crippled in the basement.
It's fine.
Big Kuhna Burger Award, Best Use of Food and Drink has to be the green apple.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Chess Rockwell Brocklanders Award for Best Character Name, Marlene Kravain.
I had Paden Flanders
Peyton Flanders
Preppy from hell
Peyton
Marlene Craven
Peyton
Flanders
You want me to spell it for you
Yeah
The number of times people
in this movie go
Peyton
I just think it's a great
I know
It's a great name to show
Peyton is a good name
Peyton
Kid Cuddy
Pursuit happiness
It's really just
Pirates of the Penzance
coming from the basement
I think would be the only thing
Panzance and Pinafore
What do you have for
Flexier
For the Billy Bats
Jack Waltz Award
For most biting
and scalable insult
when your husband makes love to you, it's my facey sees.
I got that same exact thing.
You know, this is basically what Sam Presti says to Sixers fans right now.
Because McCain is in the three-guard rotation.
When your baby's hungry, it's my breast that feeds him.
Wow.
Really, some cutting insults.
Incredibly good.
Butch's girlfriend award, weeklink of the film.
So.
I had Marty Craven.
I don't know if this is a nitpick instead of a weakling.
It courtsides for the Sonics that year, though.
He's hanging out with Bezos and Gates.
I think we have a huge mission for this.
I have to co-sign this.
Marty Craven.
It just could have been so much better.
Yeah.
Like, even if they had Mel from 902-1-0 switch roles with Marty.
Yeah.
And he's Marty Craven, right?
Because he's in the beginning, the first scene with the...
That's the twin brother.
Yeah.
That's not...
That's not Eddie
Eddie in the Cruisers.
That's his twin brother.
Oh, yeah.
So this is part of the Eddie and the Cruiser's IP, then you think?
Eddie and the Cruiser's guy.
His twin brother is in this movie.
Wait, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have stuff coming on later for it.
Wow.
Is he fucking with me?
No.
He has a twin brother.
Not the same guy.
Which guy is?
Some guys from Jersey.
Not the same guy.
Which one's in 902 and O?
Eddie and the Cruisers.
Okay.
All right.
I have for Butch's girlfriend.
I did go in the male actor category, but not Marty Craven, who I actually enjoyed.
Matt McCoy.
The hired a TV actor for a movie.
For a second.
Matt McCoy took over for Gutenberg and Police Academy.
He is a cinematic actor.
He is the cornerstone of IP.
I think he's in Citizens on Patrol.
Yeah.
They're like, we're filming.
The Moscow-based one.
We're filming an elevated lifetime movie, and he's just Dana.
Lifetime movie.
I just feel like...
But that character just is nothing.
I know, but like a...
Throw Alec Baldwin in there.
Is he only one woman for me?
Is it, but he should be...
I don't know what he is.
Is he a little hornier than he should be, a little
less horny than he should be?
Is he...
Do you think he should be more tempted by...
I think he should be a little more tempted.
A see-through nightgown by a woman towel patting him dry?
Little more tempted, little more aware of the
circumstances and...
I just think he's like dorky.
So who would you put in?
You would put Baldwin in.
I was thinking like Bill Pullman's probably the better version of this guy.
Well, Bull Pullman would be less smarty.
Right.
But I'm saying if you're going to go this direction, I would go Bill Pullman.
But I want like the husband that might get sucked into this.
That's Baldwin.
Yeah.
I think it's like Malice Baldwin.
Can I interest you in a Billy Baldwin?
You could.
You could. You could answer me in any Baldwin.
Yeah.
All the ballroom.
Daniel?
Daniel.
Yeah.
Stephen?
I'll take any Baldwin.
I just thought Matt McCoy,
he didn't do it for me.
Polaria, Baldwin?
Maybe cut it off there.
Vincent Chase Award for
Are We Sure This Character was actually good at his or her job?
I have Claire.
You've won job.
Protect the house.
Let this psycho in.
She's growing a lot of plants.
You let this psycho in who kills your best friend
and does 20 things before you realize what's going on.
Like, come on, lady.
I got a zag.
and say it's Michael as a husband and a father.
First of all,
his reaction when she's like,
my OBGYN sexually abused me is,
I think we better report this.
We better call it in.
That guy's running that fucking guy over with his car,
and then he'll be like, let's see if there's like...
That's why we needed Alec Baldwin.
He'd been fucking pissed.
He is fucking losing it the first second.
And then second of all,
he just basically is like,
sounds like you guys got the house situation,
all taken care of.
I'm going to the lab for the,
for the rest of my life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can I zag again?
Yeah.
And say...
Double-zag.
Did Solomon really build a great fence
if it broke to shit
as soon as Rebecca D. Mourne fell on it?
Oh, interesting.
Is that a sturdy fence?
That's another Michael de Merritt.
It's like, pay for good construction.
You know what I mean?
Like, you're trying to get like free labor
out of like the Better Days Foundation.
I would rather...
It's a charitable guy.
She definitely needs to wind up impaled,
but impaled on a still...
intact fence. That would be my request from Solomon's construction.
Well, it's aged the worst. We mentioned Ernie Hudson playing a special needs character.
I would say Solomon as a character.
Would not be flying in 2026. So this movie's set in Seattle and it never rains.
It rains all the time. In this movie, it's like twice. It's sunny and happy, like over and over again.
Everyone's in like, like. Seattle's depressing. That's why I didn't want to live there.
It's not. It's raining 270 days a year. Don't yell at it.
It should be raining in this movie all the time.
Rain's expensive for movies.
It is raining.
Like, it's pouring when she's in the hospital.
A bunch of park scenes?
Yeah.
You don't think they go to the park in Seattle?
I think they go to parks.
We looked into moving to Seattle in the 07 range in the rain statistics.
Every time I've been there, it's been quite sunny and nice.
Really?
Yeah.
Michael not being mad at his wife for losing the FedEx plans.
you think he should have taken a plunger and sort of beat it against the wall in his frustration?
He's like, no, no, it's fine. I'll get to it next quarter. It's fine. I'd like to do some work now.
I just feel like you'd be a little more upset.
So he's applying for a grant of some kind?
From the EPA, right?
Or he's like a patent application or something, but he's waiting until deadline day.
The last minute.
He's got a FedEx and he has no second copy.
She had her asthma attack all ready to go if he got really mad at her.
Yeah.
It's just like, oh, so you're saying she's just running.
One hand on the inhaler.
Laying it on a bit thicker.
Oh, do you think he's afraid to yell at her
less to trigger an attack?
Yeah, it was a...
She's weaponized her asthma.
She's like, you're one job.
You had your fucking...
The FedEx thing's in your bag.
You lost it?
Like, I don't understand.
How'd you lose it?
Go back to the restaurant.
This is my career.
He's just like, yeah, I'll do it.
I'll get it together in three months.
And then Morgan Crevens...
I don't know. I think the chilly,
passive-aggressive disappointment
is harder to think than an outburst of anger.
I didn't like that character.
How do you think Marty Craven would have reacted?
Yeah.
He would have been like, that's all right, I got Sonic's ticket.
You could make it up to be the old-fashioned way.
Also, Peyton, there's only one woman for me.
What did that even mean?
I met my wife.
I like the fact that...
Fucking weird thing to say.
Peyton's so true.
I doubt that she actually takes that literally.
My favorite...
As she's the woman.
Peyton Tweeted Out moment is
I'll just get my baby.
I mean my thing.
What else do you have for what stage the worst?
Because I have a couple more.
Letters of reference.
Certainly.
Need those.
Seattle real estate prices no longer are like that.
Correct.
And I couldn't decide whether
put this in picking nits,
but I'll put it in what's age the worst
because when you watch the movie,
you're like, this kind of takes me out.
So when Claire
pushes Peyton through the window,
in the attic. She is going
full dead sprint
to knock her through the window and then throws
on the brakes like Prime Daryl Revis.
Yeah. This is like an asthma
patient. Like she is not that athletic.
She like puts her through a wall
and then stops
just to avoid going through the window
and is like at a standstill. It's just
really physically unbelievable.
You have anything?
I really think Solomon is
the crowning achievement is his movie.
I have no nanny.
cams.
Now you would just have cameras all over the place
for the psychopath that she,
your greenhouse exploded and then she
wanders out to make sure
Marlene's dead. You would just have that on film.
Big missed opportunity here.
I didn't know, I almost put this in Weeklink.
No pet for Peyton and the cow?
There's a dead cat somewhere in this.
Four minutes.
Oh, where's lucky?
No, I think it's a dog.
You think it's a dog.
You think it's a dog or dog.
Emma, like, you know, or maybe
Peyton like stages of fake dog bite
and they're like we have to put it down.
We have to put it.
Well, that's Solomon.
Solomon is the puppy of this movie.
And then Peyton blames Claire for putting the dog down.
Yeah.
I just think it's an easy cat murder.
Sorry, Joanna.
That's okay.
I just think that's like, what happened to Lucky?
You can kill all the imaginary cats aren't named Lucky.
Dogs are named Lucky.
Well, just cats aren't named Lucky says who.
No. Everyone.
Okay.
Yeah.
I've never heard of a cat named Lucky.
Lucky. That's a dog name.
I'm Googling this.
This is what you're Googling? Yeah, I want to Google
this now. Can
Cats be named? Nobody does.
Is Lucky a good
name for a cat? Yes, absolutely.
Lucky is a very popular
cheerful gender neutral name
for cats. Luckythecat.com
telling you this. I'm not listening to you guys.
I think what happens
is the cat always jumps
on Claire's lap
and she, the Peyton calls the cat
over and the cat doesn't want to come over and then next
scene is just dead. It's got to be something where I think
a dog would work because cats are already distrustful
and mean but a dog not liking pain.
Yeah, barking at pain as soon as she shows up. Exactly.
Then she's got to silence the dog. Easy extra five minutes.
Yeah. A dog named Lucky.
I needed two more Seattle scenes. And then
the big one that we didn't mention is Emma's a little
too competent. She's like seven.
Oh, when she like hides the, when she does
the fake out with the baby.
She's faking the baby out. She's locking doors. This
kids like seven.
Zoe and Ben
and stuff like that.
Did she pull the
was the baby
monitor gambit like her idea
or just happenstance?
Oh, that would be
above her.
All of a sudden she's trying to
out with this lady.
I guess I never thought about that.
That's a good point.
Hans Gruber scale
for villain ranking?
Peyton's on 11.
She's outstanding.
She's fantastic.
Not higher than Hans Gruber.
Well, I mean, Hans Gruber
is really just your common thief
dressed up as a terrorist.
Peyton seems really psychotic.
How dare you?
I think maybe if she had an inexplicable accent,
she could be on Hans Gruber level,
but she's one tier below.
Ruffalo, Hannah Rubin and Partridge Overacting Award?
I had Marty Craven for this one.
He's really dialing it up.
What do you got over there?
I got to say Ernie Hudson, but it's not his fault.
It's not his fault.
It's not his fault.
That's how the role was written, but it is a lot.
What do you have for a flex category?
I'm just going to keep trying to make fetch happen and say
my category is a cell phone would ruin this movie.
Yes.
There's a car phone in this movie,
but if Marlene could text Claire and say,
hey,
I've got some wind chime based clues for you here.
I'm certain that your nanny's a killer,
then, you know.
Got to say also answering machine would help.
It would.
You know, it's like a lot of, like,
when she finds the note that Marlene called,
you know, it's like,
Marlene being like, hey, it's Marlene,
Peyton's a killer.
By the way.
Dr. Mott's Widow's
Your nanny.
Or like she does manage to call 9-1.
I mean, 911 comes
despite her just gasping into the phone.
But like, you know,
if you're,
I'm really curious about asthma corner.
Like, do you have a med alert sort of system for that?
Craig's coming with that.
Yeah.
Right now?
No, we're going to take a break.
The CR thinks Luke Wilson should have been Harrison
Ford Award for the hottest take.
I want to get back to basics
with this.
category, Payton's a pretty solid wife material.
You know, like, you have to take a long, hard look at it.
Natural with kids.
Chris.
We'll stick up for them in the face of bullying.
Great looking.
Chris.
She reads a room really well.
You know, she sees, she can just see the landscape and definitely goes through extremes to protect
her family, and I bet probably pretty good in bed.
So, you know, like, dynamite in the sack.
I love it.
Just saying, if you're Michael.
You're going to wipe her out?
I was wondering which one of us were going to go with that.
She was a better wife than Claire.
I mean, she would have your back.
She would hold you down.
Yeah.
Wow.
It is the hottest thing.
Was it her fault?
Dr. Maup maybe didn't turn out to be the ideal husband and coworker?
Yeah.
I like that one, C.R.
What do you have?
Okay, so like no matter what you do, you're in human, less pregnant women, she'll stand by you.
She'll stand by you, right?
No, she didn't know.
She'll stand by you no matter what you do.
True.
Well, I don't even think that she ever was able to publicly weigh in one way or the other on Dr. Mod.
She's just more disappointed that she's lost the house and that the estate's being sued and she loses her baby.
So she's got personal concerns.
Never seen like a...
But when she says someone murdered my husband, I feel like, you know...
I think she's blaming Claire.
Yeah.
The implication is...
Super loyal to the husband.
These allegations against my husband.
She's super loyal.
What do you have, Joita?
Top that.
I will.
Women, I said it already,
women should be allowed to be crazy
in movies.
I will say,
maybe we've gotten too woke.
That's what I'll say.
The 2025 remake.
This is sucks.
Joe's breaking bad on us.
The 25 remake,
which of course I watched every episode of,
was terrible.
Yeah.
And I don't really remember.
Wait, was it a show or a movie?
Hulu show is bad.
Was it really?
Michael Malone.
No, Michael Monroe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Mary Elizabeth Winston.
I have a really good hottest take.
Sierra's going to be jealous.
This movie could have owned Gen X with like one tweak.
Michael, the husband, instead of being a genetic engineer,
should have been the head of subpop.
And we could add two extra scenes where they go to like,
yeah, this new band, Pearl Jams.
I got to go and I'm going to go with Marlene because she's...
Do you think you're beating Peyton is marriage material?
Yeah.
Woke is bad from me.
Yeah.
Michael is the head of subpop.
We now dive into the Seattle
grunge scene as we're in a
nanny from hell movie.
You and me going into
Netflix or Apple TV and be like, we have this
new vision for Han the Rocks and Cratero.
You know, we've told
this story twice from the perspective of
women. We just feel like Michael
and Marty really didn't get their fair shake.
So here's Michael.
Yeah.
He's been to every Pearl Jam show
since they switched from Mukie Blaylock to Pearl Jam.
Yeah. And then Marty is one of the
great supporters of Seattle
professionalism.
So does the Claire Payton plot happen in the background?
Yeah, it's just like our crazy wives.
Those guys were at the last mother love bone show.
It's really dramatic.
But you have, instead of delivering the FedEx of his genetic material.
It's his tape somewhere, yeah.
It's the pearl jam tapes of 10.
It's the first one.
Eddie gave these to me himself.
There's no other copy of 10.
There's no other copy.
You have to bring this to FedEx.
Peyton's like fucking tearing him up.
And we just have the.
music from that air instead of Pirates of
Panzance. This becomes the best movie of all time.
That would be amazing. If they were listening to
like Rearv Mirror.
The Gilbert and Sullivan
is so weird to me in this movie because
like... I don't understand it at all.
I mean, I was thinking about sleeping with the
enemy because there is some like great like
classical music in that
movie, but he also just has
Gilbert and I presume it's him. He's the one
who's like singing in the beginning. He has Gilbert
and Sullivan posters all over his house.
I'm like, get a second hobby.
He's got one thing, which is...
He's singing it when he's shaving his daughter.
Yeah.
He's a loser.
I don't like that guy at all.
Does that guy have to shave his neck every day?
To get that line on the beard?
I think he has, like, where it was, like, Remington, like, stouble shivers.
By the way, he didn't need that much shaving cream just to shave, like, the bottom of his neck.
Yeah.
Like, come on, dude.
That guy has, like, you know, some, like, nice, lustrous hair and he keeps a sharp line,
neckline on the beard.
That's an every day.
What if that's what his, like, genetic science stuff is?
It's, like, neck beards.
I'm not only the president.
I'm a customer.
He created the mock five.
Yeah.
Just blocks these hair follicles.
Casting what ifs,
we mentioned that they tested for the opposite parts
before they landed on Claire and Mrs.
Mott.
Sybil Shepard turned down the role of Peyton.
Yeah, for her feminist ideals.
Yeah.
This was end of moonlighting.
Yeah.
She should have done this.
She should have,
and I'm glad she didn't.
She really should have done this.
Sybil and Rebecca played Claire and Sybil was Peyton.
That would have been.
can you have two blondes in one movie?
I don't know.
I think it's illegal.
Allegedly,
Rosanna Arquette was involved with
Peyton. I don't know if I believe that. I couldn't find
second source for it.
Instead, she played that
your wife with the shit on her face.
Is that that lady with the shit on her face?
And then they thought about,
they tested Christopher McDonald and
Kevin Spacey for Michael.
And thank God Kevin Spacey is in this movie,
because that would have absolutely ruined the rewatchability.
I don't know.
We did Working Girl.
We navigated.
No, I just feel like him as a genetic scientist trying to fend off.
He would have been good as Marty, though.
He would have.
Christopher McDonald would have been good as Marty.
Christopher McDonald would have been good with Marty.
Best that guy award.
John Delancey.
John Delancey.
Q from Star Trek.
Can I offer you Matthew Lawrence's twin brother Mitchell?
Yes, you can.
In one scene as a son.
the lawyer, but yeah, John Noance.
Is Mitchell Lawrence, like,
also a TV sports radio host now?
Yeah.
Is he?
Yeah.
Mitchell had the more interesting stuff for our purposes,
but I think Matthew,
or no, Mitchell was,
Matthew is the one that was in Eddie and the Cruiser's not 2-1-0.
And is now a sports radio host, right?
Mitchell was his brother.
Okay.
We're just some guys from Jersey.
How do you get, how do, like, twins,
twin, twins who act,
like, that must be really contentious.
It's not like the Morris twins where you...
Jeremy and Jason London.
There's always a better one, right?
It works when your children, like the Olson twins.
Sure.
But once you get older, then what?
Yeah, they had a lot of...
There's a bunch of babies playing the little baby.
They didn't really work for the Olson twins because now they're like...
The Ashmore twins?
Yeah.
They don't smile.
I mean, how often do you see the Olson twins?
Every picture I see them.
That's your Olson twin?
Have you seen my Roof face?
From Euphoria?
You know what?
That's pretty good.
Yeah, good job.
It's pretty good.
Can you give the double-maricare smirk?
Can you do that?
I can't.
Can you do the Let's Go Do Drugs smirk that she does?
Deanne Waiter's a word.
Go to town, CR.
I mean, it's one of the best ones we've got.
Like, this is what three scenes.
She basically shows up at the house, eyeballs her, goes to dinner, goes to the bar with
Michael, and then gets axed out.
It's in the female Deanne Waiters Hall of Fame.
It's a nothing part that she imbues with so much character just with all of her gestures
and all of her little, like, you know.
And shortcuts is this year or the next year?
This is right around.
It's right around.
And then she's in fugitive and gets cut out.
But this is, Julianne Moore's starting to happen.
Yeah.
Also, I would say this, I was going to bring this up a little bit later, but we can see
the foundation of Flindapartridge here.
We could see a little don't call me lady.
I was, I was waiting for that.
Yeah.
Do you want to hit me with the Don't call me lady?
No, just like.
Sierra's better.
Don't call me lady.
A little more waiver in your voice.
Recasting Couch, director, or city?
I think I love the Seattleness of this movie.
It's really the perfect place.
But I also wouldn't mind like a sweaty New Orleans version of this.
Sweaty New Orleans is great, much more erotic.
We did Michael and Marty to really step up there.
But just because we've done Bouging Basic Instinct recently,
I wouldn't mind 92 San Francisco.
Although, I wonder whether San Francisco,
it would have just been a little bit more like,
you know, this is a bigger city.
Let's check some references.
Let's like make sure this nanny is.
Oh, yeah, there's two naïve in Seattle.
I have a Boston, but specifically Charlestown.
Hey, Claire, you got to take care of that fucking nanny.
I keep telling you.
What does Peyton sound like?
How do you say Peyton in a Boston accent?
It's just the same.
Yeah.
Well, the best one would be, uh,
shut up, Marlene.
Stay out of office.
The Boston part.
Do you imagine Marlene's smoking parliaments being like,
ah, I'm showing an apartment over in the fence?
They're at Sully's pub trying to figure out the surprise party.
We can't tell her.
I have you give him a thousand dollars.
Cam Neely.
by and say hi.
Craig, what do you have for a flex?
I'm going to go with the Marion Cabretti Pizza Cutting Award for
Why Didn't Anyone on Set Stop This?
As somebody who had seasonal asthma as a kid and had an inhaler,
the way they depict Claire using an inhaler in this movie is offensive to people with asthma.
It is a light spritz of air.
Yeah, and she opened mouth sit.
She didn't even touch it to her lips and she's immediately recovered, which is not how
There was no asthma consultant at all because she's a lot.
You're like, she's trying to wrap your mouth.
She treats it like it's fucking breath spray.
You got to create a seal.
You got to, it's a deep inhale.
She thinks it's bonaca.
Yeah, she does think it's binocca.
It takes a while.
Like, it takes five, ten seconds and you're doing multiple puffs.
She, that thing is three inches from her mouth.
Like, it's, like, it's listery.
Would asthma kick in when you were stressed out lightly?
That's real.
Mine was more just like because of allergies, like running would be hard.
But I think that is the thing.
I had it too.
The hay fever.
Did you have inhalers, like, stashed all around the house?
Yeah.
I never really had attacks.
this. But I had an, I would just have an inhaler I would take regularly from like March to June.
But that is a thing where stress induces asthma attacks. But it, an embarrassing use of it in this movie.
The asthma spray-ish scenes. Yeah, when she's like, some of the dumbest things that have ever been
captured on film. And I can't, it's not like only a couple people have asthma. Like a lot of people use
just nobody involved in this movie. It's just fucking bizarre that they chose to play it that way.
Also, her asthma just goes away in the last scene, Claire.
She's about to die and then gets up tackles.
Oh, she's faking.
She's faking.
Yeah.
Because they show the little kid, and the little kid's like, oh, I know.
Because that little kid is smart at all times.
That's part of why the asthma runner is there.
So at the end, she can, like, pretend to have it and then just.
Yeah, if they remade this movie now, the little kid would be on a device all the time.
It would be completely useless when it came time of being resourceful.
Are you saying a cell phone want to ruin this movie?
I agree.
Hey, you got to take that kid to third.
for.
Throw your iPad at her.
Half a internet research.
You mentioned it was Amanda Silver's
film school thesis.
Yeah.
Film was shot in location,
mostly Seattle,
Tacoma.
Really wasn't a lot of good
research except for Mrs. Mott
visits Michael's workplace.
And it was filmed in Redmond,
Washington, at the
biotechnex laboratories,
which was demolished two years later
to make room for the expansion
Microsoft.
I also really like in that lab scene where, like, Michael's assistant's like, hey, like, really hot women.
He's like, that's my nanny.
How dare you?
Yeah.
Apex Mountain.
De Moranay, would you go, this or risky business?
Risky business, I would say.
It felt like she was going to be one of the biggest stars in the world after risky business.
Matt McCoy, I'm going to say yes.
Sure.
Inhalers?
Inhalers in a movie, I think yes.
Yeah.
How about cinematic breastfeeding?
This are barbarian.
Why don't you pull out your list?
Season two of American Horror.
If Sean was here, be like,
Tell us more, Sierra.
Sean would be like, actually, you're forgetting
Michelangelo and Tilly.
They do feel like
there's two scenes where it is like
how do they do this
with the breastfeeding.
What do you mean?
Because it's a real big.
We didn't have the CGI
back then.
And it seems like it's an actual
breastfeeding situation.
But there's no way
like Rebecca DeMorne was
breastfeeding a baby
on her
nipple.
Put it,
but probably something
over her.
I think it was a doll.
The baby next door?
No,
but the baby was moving.
But don't they have like
dolls to like show women
how to do it in the first place
like to be like this is maybe.
But that technology
I don't think was that in the 90s?
What about like a merkin?
Like a boob merkin.
That's probably it was.
Yeah.
Ernie Hudson,
no.
Evil naming.
Just platinum.
One of the all-time conversational topic switches.
Evil Navy movies?
Yeah?
Yes.
Greenhouses in a movie has to be yes, right?
Yes.
What's a better greenhouse?
You seriously haven't been in a greenhouse?
I seriously have not been in a greenhouse.
Would you go to a botanical garden?
Yeah, but then usually there's like a spot.
Yeah, there's a spot in the botanical garden that has a greenhouse and I will not go in it.
I really want to test this out.
I will not go in it.
Seattle, yes.
92, 93.
This is it.
For sure.
Yeah.
Julianne-A-Taxon movie, maybe.
A crisp
Curtis Sansa.
White Oxford button all the way up.
Yeah.
She just owns that look in this movie.
Cruise or Hanks?
So it should be Hanks, right?
It's Hanks.
But wouldn't it be fun to have Cruz and DeMorne back together again?
Wouldn't it be fun if, what do you mean?
Like, Cruz playing Dr. Ross?
Cruz is Matt McCoy.
One scene, Cruz is Dr. Mott.
Yeah.
Taking the glove off.
Taking the glove off.
I'll take care of it.
Why did you let her know about her test results?
That's what Cruz needed in 92.
They're all clear.
Yeah.
92 Cruz is definitely needing to do this.
He's not far and away.
He's prepping for eyes wide shut.
Could Cruz have been Solomon?
Oh my God, Bill.
Is there running?
I was trying to think of how Cruz could run.
What a cursed concept?
Cruz is as the dad.
There's no running, though.
He turns this movie down.
It's got to be Hanks.
It is Hanks.
We got rid of Scorsesier or Spielberg after doing it with Spielberg.
If Marty comes on the pod, will you bring it back?
We'll bring it back.
Readding, was there a better title for this movie?
A category we used to have, and I have no idea why we got rid of it.
No, this title rules.
I think this title is the right title.
Yeah.
Right?
That's very memorable.
It absolutely rules.
Picking Nits.
I have like 10.
I'll just go with my biggest one,
which is how the fuck do they not know
what Mott's wife looks like?
If an OBGYN did what he did to my family,
I would be like, I'm going to the trial.
Well, first you run him over with your car.
First run him with his car.
But if that didn't work out,
I would be very engaged with what this guy was about.
And I think I would know somehow what his wife looked like.
Also, this would be the biggest story in Seattle for like two weeks.
Also, the local news show.
showing Claire's face?
This is a huge one.
I had that, too.
Yeah, here's this woman that called out this creep.
Here's her face if anybody wants to see it in the hospital while...
It's actually a rule that you can't do that.
They can't use their name either.
Yeah.
But they're like, coming up.
Claire Bartel accused as a dead doctor.
I'm going to tell you why Claire Bartel might be wrong.
It's crazy that they...
Here's where she lives.
We mentioned no background checks.
Also, just...
See, you're with your nanny a lot.
At no point is Claire doing the...
So what happened to your husband?
Dude, what, why...
Like, just aren't at some point...
It's so complicated.
Peyton could just be like, yeah, I just got here from Cleveland.
Divorced.
Well, she wanted to say my husband was murdered by you, you know.
A couple days after my baby, it's like...
What?
Before or after?
Who died first?
Why did the baby die?
Yeah.
Husband died first in real life.
Yeah.
And then she's like he was murdered.
She miscarried.
Yeah.
I want my revenge.
Okay.
Well, revenge on what?
What are you going to do?
I don't know.
I just had a lot of questions on that.
Pete beating up the school, Billy,
I'm guessing, would probably get reported to the principal.
Again, it was 1992.
There was no one supervising us on the blackout.
Ten witnesses.
There's people in different parts of the playground.
All the kids are like this crazy blonde, almost yanked off's arm out of its socket.
One kid's like, fuck yeah.
A sexual fantasy was born.
The kid with hair under his arms is like nice.
This is my wife's biggest one.
So one of the times he goes down when our guy Matt McCoy is getting a little horny.
Same more.
And Rebecca DeMorne is picking up ice cubes.
Right, in her C-Thru-N-N-N-E.
In her C-Thru-N-Nity.
and putting them back in the tray
and then putting the tray back in the freezer?
Yes, this is a great call.
The fuck is going on.
This is a great call.
Who wants ice cubes that were just on the floor?
Does he see that they've been on the floor
that she's put them back away?
He's watching it, but he's looking at the nightgown.
I'd be looking at the fucking ice cubes.
You'd be like, don't put those back in there.
Yeah, what are you doing?
People walk on that floor, Peyton.
Do you think the entire ice gambit was, like,
executed to lure him down there?
Yes.
How can she?
know that he would come down and not Annabella Sierra.
I guess she's like, well, if Claire comes down,
I'll just be like, my bad, drop something.
Again, this is...
I'm right here to consult in these movies.
This is where he drinks decaf at night because it keeps him up.
Doesn't want to get kept up, and she switches the coffee,
so he'll stay up at night and come down, and that's when she gets.
Another nitpick that we've kind of alluded to is
the last shot of this movie is, like, Claire and Solomon being like,
we did it.
Good job.
High five.
He's like in agony like Joe Thaisman.
Crying in the basement.
Maybe trying to like crawl up the stairs in the basement.
What about this, this wind chime clue?
Oh my God.
Well, then she goes over the top with the painting the baby room the same way.
Well, the turtles is one thing.
Yeah.
And again.
But Julianne Moore spots the wind chimes.
via magnifying glass spots a solitary wind chime and is like, I've seen.
that it's your bog standard wind chime.
That's what all wind chimes look like.
I bought it. She's good at her job.
Absolutely not.
I don't know if it's because I grew up in the Bay Area
where there's just a lot of wind chimes going on,
but I wouldn't be like, well, that wind chime,
clearly someone else is.
I do love that she's like, what the fuck is that ugly thing
when she walks in?
Well, how about Peyton leaves the breast pumps behind
in the old house?
It's going to leave some stuff back here,
including all my breast pumps.
No, isn't that how staged and being, you know,
it's being shined?
cleared out the breast pumps?
Sure.
People sold the house.
I think the idea is like it's a cool nursery.
Check out how you could use it as a nurse.
Check out these fucking breast pumps.
Also, for all the guys in the room,
when that guy's like,
what kind of weird toy is that?
Like, is that not the dumbest shit you've ever heard?
We mentioned this earlier,
but the dad broke his legs falling seven feet.
Not even.
It was like five feet.
Both of them?
Both legs?
Like just shut.
And he gets it in the feet.
face with a shovel, but his face is fine, right?
It's a little fucked up. It's a little damaged? Yeah, it's a little bit of that.
Claire, my legs are broken.
Both of them. Both legs. You got to take the rest of this movie.
I've been used as this whole movie and I'll remain useless.
They need one extra scene where they're just pushing him around the wheelchair and he's got these two giant gas.
Claire has asthma from the wheelchair.
I'll be in Peyton's bed, Claire.
I'll be waiting. This is the opportunity to do it. It's like Marty is pushing him in the wheelchair.
He's like, you know what, you and me, we could move in together.
Right.
I got plenty of room now that Marlene's dead.
There's a couple moments.
A couple moments when it's clear it's a doll and not a baby.
Yeah.
And then this is my biggest one.
Well, they're tied together.
We already talked about whether the greenhouse would have killed Marlene or not.
I say no.
Not without, you know.
Who's the prime suspect in Claire's death?
Or in Marlene's death.
Isn't it just an accident?
It's an accident.
Is it?
It's a greenhouse accident.
It's poor greenhouse construction by Claire.
If anything, she should feel guilty about it.
Okay.
The police call, hey, we're just going to check out Claire for a second.
The LPD is not acquitting themselves.
That guy just wandered into a crime scene.
When that cop opens the greenhouse door, just wanders in, I'm like, uh-uh.
What's your history with Claire?
Because we heard you had a moment at your surprise party a month ago where you were yelling at your husband.
Oh, you think Claire should be, might be blamed.
Claire should be a fucking suspect for this.
Also, like, if the cops came by, wouldn't they just want to see driver's licenses from everybody?
Does Peyton have a Peyton Flanders?
Drivers license?
I think Claire is a suspect immediately because there's, we already had the altercation with them two weeks before.
So you have that.
Marlene didn't have a funeral?
She's just a bunch of people smoking.
You don't think she did off screen?
And Claire's like, I'm going to go to Marlene's office.
It's just intact.
Everything's still there.
It was interesting that.
her day planner was just sitting there.
And how long was Claire in the hospital?
Was her asthma attack?
She's in there for four weeks?
How long did you go to the hospital?
It's like she had COVID.
I don't know.
A couple days?
I don't know.
A couple days.
Step back for the funeral and people are...
Hit her with some steroids.
Is that awkward with Marlene's family?
Like, so what happened?
Your greenhouse collapsed at our daughter?
You wanted more time with her husband.
You wanted to see him weeping and waiting at the funeral.
Anyone in Marlene's wife like, wait,
the greenhouse collapsed on Marlene and killed her?
The Mariner's had a homestine.
He couldn't make it.
Marty's like, okay,
Edgar Martinez is on an incredible streak right now.
You wanted Marty Craven to just have his moment at the funeral.
Maybe he could have quoted some more poetry.
Also, you know what?
It always works, a funeral scene.
Like, Marlene, there's two things she loved.
Parliament lights and condominiums.
And this poem about the hand that rocks the cradle.
There was no house she couldn't sell, no cigarette she couldn't smoke.
sequel prequel prestige TV all black cast are untouchable
I feel like it's done all of these
they didn't do a prequel
that Hulu one the Dr. Mott
prequel is still in development
the Hulu thing was October
2025 when they had that
it doesn't feel like it exists
and now CR and I'll have our Seattle subpop
built around Marty and middle age
manned version of Antarox the cradle
Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins
Fergie the Flores Zainlow
Robert Evans Dr. Charles Nichols or
somebody else. I do just have like Marlene Craven
want me to spell it. Don't call me lady.
I like that was the one I have, but
I would love to see Robert Evans getting into Peyton.
Oh. She knows how to dress.
She knows how to rear a child.
Her legs go on forever.
This is just your hottest take again.
It's my hottest take as read by Pat and Oswald
doing Robert Evans. It's funny because I had
Logey as Byron Mayo for this.
Yeah. Peyton, clear.
Yeah, couldn't help notice you nanny.
At the Claire surprise party, just having Byron Mayo.
No shirt.
Or if Byron Mayo walked in with the Ice Cube situation.
Maybe he was at the funeral.
Tiny White City.
Yeah.
Ladies, don't fight.
Just one Oscar who gets it.
That's got to be De Moranet.
De Morne.
We have to throw in here.
The Catherine Shremelt, would you throw your life away for this obvious stayaway
award?
Because Claire's husband thought about it twice in the kitchen there.
For me, even for as seduced as I can be by this type,
but for me I'm out. Sharks.
Probably in answerable questions.
Baby Joey with the double breastfeeding situation.
What did his next 10 years look like?
Well, here's the question.
So, like...
Is he like super strong, like LeBron after going to German?
No, but like he's not drinking from her.
But he's still...
Like, he's not drinking from his mom.
Yeah.
But he's still...
I think he's doing both, though.
No, he's...
Like, that's why she's...
stress because he won't latch for her.
But he's gaining weight. And Michael's
just like, then what's the problem? Yeah. So we don't
take this kid to the hospital?
Yeah. All of these
children need to know the doctor. If you think your
little girl has been molested, she needs to go see a therapist.
And if you think your baby is growing despite not drinking
any milk at all. The Bartels are just like, that's
one problem solved. Let's move on.
We'll save a fortune on one.
Is the baby gaining weight? It is.
Very enough. No problem.
Belichick. On to Cleveland.
mentioned this earlier,
but I do feel like they could have snuck in a 92
Sonics game scene.
Maybe the double date,
maybe the guys are going there after,
just so we get some Sean Kemp just to mix it up.
Wait, what category are we on?
Unanswerable questions.
Why weren't the Sonics in those movie?
The Sonics are right there.
I have one really good one, though,
unless you guys have any other ones.
My biggest unanswerable question was,
what was Peyton like before her OBGY unhusband?
So you want the Peyton prequel?
Well, I'm just curious what she was like.
Payton's bliss.
Did Peyton have any friends?
Did they all abandon her?
I think she was like a Seattle socialite, right?
Right.
So wouldn't there be like a little bit more aware of this?
Yeah.
Unanswerable question.
I don't have one.
Is this movie better if they look out at the end and Peyton's not there in the front lawn?
Oh, Michael Myers?
Michael Myers' style.
Somehow Peyton is the ride.
Handen Rocks the Cradle too?
It's just like.
Still rocking?
It's like, we did it, guys.
Look out and she's gone.
What's the sequel?
I just, I don't want her that device.
Painting damaged but alive on the road.
And where does she pop up next, Los Angeles, working for a film producer.
You know, it's like we could get into it.
Why not?
Maybe a film producer, the film producer who made a lifetime movie of the week about her life.
Oh.
And now she's going to get revenge on him.
Yeah.
Why close the door?
Great character.
Corey spelling, how dare you.
Yeah, exactly.
Got it.
Remember, Billy, you'd want or not want from this movie.
For me, I would not want the breast pumps from the leftover ones from the house that wouldn't sell.
Would you want an inhaler that has never seen a pair of human lips attached to it?
Yeah.
See, where our movie used inhaler?
We're not allowed to use the cars, right?
We could never use, can I get an old Volvo wagon?
I've always wanted an old Volvo wagon.
Those were great cars.
Very safe.
They ran for like 300,000 miles.
Also, like, that beige color.
Yeah. Perfect.
I dated a girl who had one of those cars and the thing had like 200,000 miles and was just fucking cranking.
It was like LeBron.
I always wanted one of those.
Coach Finstock, Mr. Miyagiware, best worst life lesson.
Don't hire a hot nanny or don't build a greenhouse.
Don't let a hot woman into a power position in your household, I believe.
Yeah, that was a good one.
Check the reference.
But also don't go into a greenhouse, not ever, not even once.
Yeah.
Best double feature choice?
I think single white female, but, you know, I mean, just to be in the spirit of the pod.
Sleeping with the enemy.
Laura!
I love that movie.
I have scorned with Shannon Tweed.
Nice.
Not familiar with that one.
I would say not the housemaid, which is the double feature that I...
Scored with Shannon Tweed was this movie, but the Skinner Max version of it.
It was considered to be the Shannon Tweed Apex for her.
They showed these movies all the time on like, as, as, you know, when I was here for just one of the guys and I let you know that I didn't have HBO.
So I watched all the movies that I watched on like TNT, TBS.
So I...
The Nipples.
were not a factor
when we rewatched
Hand the Rocks the Cradle
but they showed this
and sleeping with the enemy
like all the time
safest cable
program you could have
go ahead and watch it
yeah
who won the movie
Rebecca DeMorne
Dormone
Easy
Craig
she won the movie
I mean she like
LeBron
2018 game 1 50 10 and 10
or whatever he had won the movie
could would you have given
the BAM out of Bio
83 point game
award for her
well no because I knew
where it came from
because I saw
risky business since you kind of changed my life.
Yeah.
So, but I have to say, the first, like, 40, 50 minutes of this movie, I, I wasn't in love
with it.
I thought it was a little really kind of slow and drawn out.
There's, like, a weird acting style.
I agree with you about, was it Michael?
Yeah.
Is that the name of his character?
I feel like him and Claire have a very weird acting style.
I don't know if it was the point of the movie, but they're like almost mannequin-esque.
I feel like I'm watching an HR instructional video where it was like, hey, would you
like to come over for dinner?
That sounds nice.
Thank you.
All right.
Pick you up at seven.
Seven sounds great.
Like, that was like the first hour of the movie.
Yeah.
And then, but I really felt like your pure hatred for Peyton really just drives you to the end of this movie.
I think she is one of the most despicable people I've seen in a long time.
And you are just so, you're like, I need to see this fucking lady die.
She has to die.
She can't just get arrested.
That's horrible.
I would argue she still wins.
Like, even though she dies, like, okay.
Michael broke his legs.
Claire now kind of thinks that Michael wants to have sex with Peyton,
maybe had sex with Marlene.
I think Claire can definitively say Michael is like not a protector.
Like he is going to get distracted too easily.
Like Marlene's dead.
This family does not get out unscated.
Yeah, what is Zwan Neo here?
Like this family's fucked up.
The baby was breastfeeding.
Are we moving away from Seattle?
If you want to make, if this family's staying together,
I think they're leaving Seattle.
They should go to Boston.
I think they're out of the greenhouse business.
I think Michael probably loses his job
because he can't stand up for nine months.
Yeah.
You can do science while sitting.
Maybe he's in like the Willis.
Stephen Hawking wheelchair, maybe.
Most scientists sit most of the time.
That seemed like a very standing lab.
They're going to Denver restarting.
Yeah.
And I think that kid is really traumatized the daughter.
Maybe a little Joey too.
Joey's doing great.
Like she, the whole family's a mess.
even after Peyton's death.
Peyton really ran a much.
She got her revenge.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think a problem,
and this is often the case
when I'm on an episode
where it's the early 90s
is like so many people have done it since
that it's hard to see how...
Yeah.
That it's like, yeah.
I also love like,
so many 90s movies
just have no idea
how to end the fucking movie.
Like this movie just ends.
I thought I was going to see another scene
and it's like, Solomon,
come downstairs.
They don't even have like...
Okay, credits.
Yeah, it's like...
It's roll in the front of the house.
The B-roll on the house.
It's been brought out of the basement.
I love a shot of the family together.
He's just like,
Solomon, come downstairs.
You wanted a group hug with broken legs, Michael's legs are broken in the basement.
Yeah.
Solomon's just like dancing out of the room with the baby.
It's very odd.
It's very confusing.
I love the early.
Also, Claire's taking the baby back.
She's not like, no, no, no.
It's cool.
Yeah.
You can hold her.
You don't really see credits roll over.
Usually it cuts to black now.
You don't see the credits roll over footage anymore.
Well, now you don't see credits anymore because this movie just went right to
five seconds
you know five seconds
for the next thing
we're throwing at you
so I couldn't even
I had to like
rewind
you were like stop
because I couldn't remember
what Dr. Mott's name was
but God forbid
you just got to enjoy credits
for 10 seconds
I was legitimately fired up
when Marlene spots
the wind chime
yeah
and it's like
she's like little Xerox
for now
she's like cancel my morning
and then she's driving her
like it's a femur
like it's like fuck off
yeah she's like
fuck off
give me a cigarette
she's in a BMW right
She's just like, zooming through traffic.
I was like, come back and remember the Titans.
I'm like, let's fucking go.
C.R., would you have watched a Marlene, separate movie of Marlene Real Estate in Seattle?
Just her smoking in people's houses?
Just Gordon Gecko, but Marlene?
Yeah.
She's great.
Selling Seattle with Marlene.
I think she fucks.
I think she fucks whoever she wants in Seattle.
That's why when she shows up in Boogie Nights, we had some history with her.
It's like, I'm ready for this lady to have her moment.
And then it finally happened with Boogey nights.
Yon Nates, I think, was when it happened.
All right, guys, From Hell.
Joyne & Robinson, thank you.
Chris Ryan, thank you.
Thanks, Craig.
Thanks, Chris.
Thanks, Eduardo.
We're going to be back next week with another From Hell movie.
I think we're doing the Good Sun next week.
I think we are.
That's a good one.
Can wait for Craig's reaction to that one?
That's next week.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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