The Rewatchables - The New Categories Selection Show

Episode Date: May 31, 2022

In a special edition of 'The Rewatchables', The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey read through listener submissions for new categories and select their favorites to make the show. Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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That's close enough. Car selling without a catch. So your car today on... Carvana. Pick up these may apply. All right, it's a special edition of the rewatchables. My name is Bill Simmons. I'm here with Chris Ryan

and Sean Fendman. A couple weeks ago, we asked the listeners to send us suggestions because we're headed to our 250 episodes on this feed and decided, you know what, you got to keep it fresh. Sometimes you got to put on some lingerie for your husband. Sometimes you got to get a nice freshly shorn haircut for your wife. It's got to keep people on their toes, you know? Do you think a lot of wives are like, when will my husband be freshly shorn? That's what really stirs my ashes? That's what I'm hearing.

So we're trying to keep it fresh. So the listeners obliged. They sent us hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of great emails, fun emails, enjoyed going through them. I went through them. Producer Craig went through them. And a recurring thing was that people just like this podcast. So it was nice to hear from everybody.

We really appreciate it. I tried to separate these into a bunch of different categories. I've kind of decided on mostly what we're going to add, and maybe we can talk about that at the tail end. But I wanted to just rip through this guy. and I separated it in quadrants, and we could just kind of go. This first section is called Rapid Fire.

Okay. Matthew Wood suggests the Carl Van Loon 18T Award for the actor who most phoned in their performance, named after De Niro's character from Limitless. Didn't make the cut, but strong suggestion. Greg Todd wanted the Judith Myers Award for the character most likely to be killed first if this were a horror movie.

Oh, I like that. That did get my wheels turning a little bit. I tried to... Do you want us to throw out some examples here? Do you have some that you're thinking of? Well, I don't think this works because I don't think you could do it for enough movies. But I think it's a back pocket every once in a while if it's the right movie, we could maybe break out the Judith Meyer. So I'm just...

Sure. Post that side. I really like that one. I like that one and applying it to like the most non-horror movies. Yeah. Yeah, like Lieutenant Weinbergin, if you could have been. he'd be the first to go. I was literally going to say that.

Hell yeah, brother. All right, I'll put it in bold. Brennan Kay wanted the award for the character most likely to have a podcast, and what would that podcast be about? And he listed as an example, Elliot from E.T. having a Joe Rogan-type podcast. I don't even, I don't know how he made that association, but I love it. What would Elliot be doing right now? He'd probably be playing Eldon Ring.

Yeah. You know, like he would be, I think he would just need to immerse himself in a virtual reality because his reality was too intense. Hmm. Yeah, maybe he's in Silicon Valley. He's like a computer programmer, kind of grizzled. He's on Reddit, conspiracy Reddit a lot. Yeah.

Yeah, but he's like transforming into like a crypto grifter, you know? He's just pushing NFTs. He's like, I have ETs, the only shirt that E.T ever touched, and he's trying to turn that into an NFT. So you think he's running for mayor of Miami? Definitely. Yeah. Do you think he knows Heral Bob or no?

Yeah, they started a crypto currency together, right? E.T. Coin? This one doesn't totally work, but I like it. Only because we weed this in anyway, but Josh Ducky suggests the Don Simpson, cocaine is a hell of a drug category for movies from the cocaine era who have inexplicable scenes or plots that can only be explained by cocaine. When does the cocaine era end? Well, that's the thing. I feel like cocaine is such a theme in any movie we do.

from like, what, 87 to 86? I don't think that needs a category. Marikita suggests one in honor of Mallory Rubin, which should instantly make you fearful. Would this movie be better with a sex scene? Or, and is there enough on-screen horniness? Yeah. She wants to call this the Mallorubin Award.

I don't want to boost Malie's ego and give her an award. I immediately think Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross, when I'm thinking this. For a sex scene? Yeah. It's funny. my mind went to E.T. My mind went to rounders. Well, you've long...

Yeah, that was the movie I needed it the most. It was an R-rated movie anyway. I don't think this works, but I like the idea from Maxham, the I Wish I Was There in Person category, which would mostly be for sports movies. But I feel like we would say that in the pod anyway, but then it got me thinking, like, not in sports movies,

what would we want to be there for? Like, Chris, what heat scene would you want to be there. BJ's an Alvarado at 2 a.m. I think BJ's an Alvarado. I would also like, you know, for instance, I would love to be at a really safe distance from the Death Star blowing up. You know, just like outside the blast radius, but like on a nice like, you know, like, recreation deck checking that out.

Sean, you're in the diner and Pulp Fiction with Honey Bunny and Tim Roth? Yeah, maybe with my bad motherfucker wallet. I am, what about like on the, on a separate boat within, eyes of Quint getting eaten alive. Oh, interesting. You know, like, I want to see jaws up close and personal, but safely. But you're just sitting there eating saltwater tapy instead of helping? Yeah, like I'm in a helicopter, you know, and it's, it's really close to the surface.

Taylor Wetzker wanted us to have the under 40 test. Does this film feel so old that it's not even being carted when it walks into a bar? inventive. I don't know how we squeeze it in. This one from Jimmy O, though, the Teddy KGB, he beat me straight up a word given to the actor-actress who's doing their own thing in the movie, regardless of whether or not it vibes with the rest of the film. He mentions Teddy KGB, Philip Seymour Hoffman, along came Polly, Gary Oldman, and True Romance. This feels like the 2.0 version of Judd Nelson. Yeah, this is a variation. I think that we've tried to get Judd Nelson off the ground. We had some seed investment but it never really took off.

Yeah, and maybe Teddy KGB is it, so I'm bolding that one. This one isn't going to make the podcast, but it just made me laugh. Jeff Cee wants us to have the Alex Kintner Memorial Award for the best scene in a movie that contains no dialogue, and he recommends Alex Kittner getting swallowed by the shark and the camera painting in on Sheriff Brody. So basically, had no sound scene. I just like that he went on IMDB and looked up Alex's last name, Alex Kittner. It really committed to the bit. The Kittner boy.

This one from Brian now, just to make Sean uncomfortable, the Jamie Sheridan Premature Jackalator Award for most trenchworthy moment or performance. Oh, boy. Here we go. The Jamie? Frank H. wants the Dr. Loomis unintentionally hilarious award and says, it's hard to watch any Halloween movie without laughing at how much nobody believes Dr. Loomis.

He has a gun. He's worked with the person. It's overacting and spectacular. I have a better use of unintentional comedy that I think we can get in. to. Speaking of comedy. A bunch of heat emails. You're not going to believe this, considering how many podcasts have we done about heat?

Three heat. You guys did heat? Yeah, we did heat. Michael B. wants six degrees of heat. Pick the main character of the movie being reviewed or a supporting character if it's too easy

and try to get them in a movie with a random member of McCauley's crew with six steps. Could be pretty fun. I think Seismore takes care of a lot of this, though, yeah. I was trying to think E.T.

I feel like we could get keys into heat within four moves. Peter Coyote. What else has he been in besides E.T? aside from narrating those Ken Burns documentaries. What's Keyes doing 10 years later? He's probably robbing banks, right? Or is at least thinking about it? You think he's gone from discovering extraterrestrial life to robbing banks?

I think he's gone dark. I think he flew too close to the sun. And now he's like, he's in McCauley's back pocket. best quote a lot of people want a best quote to come back and Daniel from Perth suggested calling having a book about medals award for the belatedly best quote he says for first viewing it's just another line 40th viewing it's spectacular and he mentions other book about metal possibilities every buffalo bill moment in silence of lamps the international immobile are Godfather

Pro 3. That's a great one. And Tom Cruise attempted to be human in any movie. This is close. I guess the concept would be

belatedly fantastic. Yeah, I think it's for the movies that we've really, really, really watched like a hundred times. And then it's like

the difference between you cut these guys loose to I want the truth. It's like on the 40th watch of a few good men, you almost get more excited about you cut these guys loose.

You start to get into like different lines. It's trying to think for a departed, Sean. I feel like Baldwin, I don't feel like he jumped out on the first time like he does in like the 39th. Every moment he has, like the driving range scene. That could be like a book about metals. There's something here. I think we should workshop this. Yeah, I was thinking also about the, you know, I treat feds like I feed, treat mushrooms, you know, feed him shit, keep him in the dark.

Like that, when the first time I saw it, I was like, it's pretty good. And now I use that line and replace mushrooms with anything. I'd do like CR. I say like, you know, I treat CR. Sean Hayes wanted, this is really strong. And I think we should try to figure this out. Maybe it's not every pod. But he wants it a word called The Next Day and says, this is an incredible idea.

You've done three podcasts about Heat and have never discussed that Al Pacino's character is very likely suspended. the next day. Thadero's now killed Waingro and several cops and out let him get away from the precious metals depository. There should be a category of the team riffing on what happens after. The next day works in a lot of different ways, right? We could

there's like an Andy and Red version. What happens just the next day? They're in Zawatneo after the hug. What do they do for the next 12 hours? This is a brilliant category idea. I feel like some of the most creative conversations we've ever had on the show are like what is the sequel to this?

Like, what is the plot of the Netflix series? And this is a way to do that discreetly, like, right away. And invariably, most of the time, it will be, like, not that interesting. So we'll have to come up with some interesting shit to happen. Well, that's what I think the future of this pod is we take these categories and there's the staples that are probably like two-thirds. And then I think the other ones kind of move in and out depending on the movie. That's heat culture.

We're always finding new guys to come in off the bench. You never know a Max Truce might be able to come in and hit a three. next man up, call me Gabe Vincent. E.T. the next day, what happens? Does he go to school the next day? Well, I think there's something funny about no one believing anybody. You know, like, I like the idea of him becoming a conspiracy theorist because he had this experience, but no, the government won't acknowledge it, obviously.

Yeah. Only five kids in the neighborhood really saw what happened. Keys, you know, Keyes is trying to nail his mom. So, like, he's trying to keep everything under wraps. Keyes is over for pizza the next day. Yeah. I think they're all arrested. They led extraterrestrial life.

They proof of intelligent life off of Earth escape. Those guys are all redacted. Daniel G. had a similar idea. He said, what's next for Andy? He's a seven-foot-tall convicted felon. There's no way he can blend in at a beach of Mexico for too long. Same for Dominic, Charlene, and Chris. Do they ever reunite?

Does Dr. Kimball remarry? There's something here. I like the next day. Dr. Kimball remarries very. quickly. You would think. Oh, yeah. A doctor? A single doctor? This next category we're adding. Multiple people suggested it, including Ryan Sally, who wanted the Stephen A. Smith hottest take a word. People, multiple people seem to think we should just have a hot take in the movie along the lines of Kay Corleone is a terrible character, which isn't even a hot take because she was.

But Alexander Smith describes it. These are just your takes then. Yeah, who is responsible for Hot takes? You guys have had hot takes. Here's Alexander Smith. He said, for instance, in signs, a movie that I think I've seen once. I didn't even know what he was talking about, but I love this email. Merrill is a baseball player who is most definitely a three true outcomes player. In the movie, he said he didn't make it to the Biggs due to his strikeouts, but the movie came out in 2002 Moneyball was published in 03. If the aliens had invaded five years later, Merrill is in the Biggs doing his best Adam Dunn impersonation and going for 40 homers with this 200 batting average. Mel Gibson,

all these kids are dead. Best hot take, great category. I don't know. I think maybe one of us has to give a hot take. Maybe it's not three. It's like whoever feels like they have the best hot take, you just kind of go. Or whoever else is on if it's not one.

I think that's good. That should be like at the end of an episode though. Yeah, yeah. I have that, yeah. This is like Elliot, by being so selfish, Elliot caused the slowdown of scientific discovery by 50 years. Yes. That was sort of your take on the last one.

Yeah, that was good. A lot of basketball awards. Wait, are we doing signs? I don't know. I haven't seen it in 20 years. It's pretty good. A lot of basketball awards. A lot of basketball disparagement, Chris,

including people who are either currently on your team or used to be on your team. What a surprise. Just a variety of James Harden Awards suggested, including Taylor Wetzker, the James Harden Award, award it to the person, least excited, interested

at being part of the movie. or Bill Stacey, the actor who did a money grab and had no interest in being there. Just a slew of those. So congrats on the James Hardin extension when it happens, Chris. Were these emails only called from Boston? Like, was there some sort of regional mailbox? Yeah, can we tag these? These were from all over Australia.

Oh, yeah, Perth, for sure. Scott Jackson wanted the Chris Powell Award for the actor who had the worst performance than the third act of the movie, but only do it when Mr. Sillow's on the podcast. I was trying to think who What actor completely fell apart In the third part of the movie We haven't done single white female yet But I feel like Jennifer Jason Lee was like that

But to make it more accurately Chris Paul Then they have to have like a weird excuse for it You know like a late developing quad injury is revealed So like it would have to be Jennifer Jason Lee Is just like I actually had mono For the entire end of the shoot for single white female Yeah I got a car accident on the set And my neck was out of whack

Kirk Melhorn wants the Ben Simmons Award for the actor, actress, or director who refused to utilize a specific skill set or ability and it negatively affected the movie like Ben Simmons not shooting. It felt like a shoehorn Ben Simmons attack, but I'm here for it. I enjoyed it.

And then a lot of Russell Westbrook. Mostly people, the same kind of thing, like the Russell Westbrook Award for if you cut this scene out or this character out, the movie's better. I don't really want to have Russell Westbrook and the rewatchable, so I'm vetoing it. So a couple of people wanted life lessons

because the first Heat podcast we ever did was setting around the lessons from Heat. Didn't we do that for Casino too? We did, and now I'm thinking not a bad thing for near the end is there a life lesson from this movie? We all have to think of one and just go around. Yeah.

We think, Sean. Life lesson from E.T. is if you discover an alien, don't show them to your siblings or your mom. Just keep them tucked away. Or the alien. Horde the alien. Yeah.

A couple revamp winner. People want the best quote back, so I guess we're going to have to bring that back. Well, it shows up usually in what's aged the best. What happened? Why did it get phased? I feel like one day I showed up, I was on the show and it was like,

when are we doing best quote? And then it just stopped. I remember, I blame Mallory. No. I think we did ones. I blame you. You started doing best quote in, in what's aged the best?

You started to be like, what's age the best? And then you would do like five lines from the movie. Those are all the best quotes. Mallor was on once and it was best quote and she did like 38 quotes

and I was like, I gotta get rid of this category. It was a half hour of the podcast. But people had different names for it and I think the best one was from Scott who thinks we should call it. The action is the juice. Best quote of word.

Or we just call it the best quote of word. People also think recasting couch should be shifted. as Patrick Patrick puts it. It should be 2022. It shouldn't be

people from the era of the movie was made. It should be right now they're making the movie. So Patrick says for recasting Titanic right now

Tom Hollins and Leo's role and Shere So Ronan is in Kate's role. Right. I like the 2020 angle. Yeah, I think that's good. I think that's a keeper, right?

That'll be also tough for me because I have a bad tendency to just say Miles Teller for everything. Yeah. So I got to get better. You just got to study more actors. It's a good way for us to get Sydney,

Sweeney, and a lot more movies. Yeah, no question. Cousin categories of things that we kind of already have that usually end up in like what's age the best or what's age the worst. But Bryce Maloney from Toronto, what single moment most gives away the year this movie was made? Is it a catchphrase, a hairstyle, a costume choice,

a song in the soundtrack or whatever? I feel like most of the time the answer would be the song in the soundtrack. So I'm like lukewarm on this. It's a little on what's age of the worst corner too. Yeah. But there's also like a lot of usually technological advances are on front. Yeah, I feel like we can cover that best or worse. But I like the spirit of it.

Luke Holy wants the Tony Snell Award points us to the time Tony Snell played 208 minutes and had all zeros. So it's like the actor who's in the movie the most but did the least. And he said it's basically the opposite of Dian Waiters. And his nominee for this is Tom Hardy and Mad Max Fury Road. He thinks he put up a Tony Snell. I like it. That's controversial for him to say that. I don't love that take, but I love that idea.

Yeah. It's really solid. I don't think we do it every time, but I think maybe there's sometimes where that comes in. For sure. The Tony Snell. Then a few people wanted either who lost the movie or the LVP of the movie. movie. I like the concept of who lost the movie. Alex from Cleveland says this could be someone who passed on a major role, someone who was fired, somebody who hurt their own trajectory of their

career, or somebody who was just bad. Or if you get blown off the screen by your co-star, you know? What do you think, Sean? I like it. I mean, it's better with context. Because it's like if somebody took a part in a movie that didn't do anything for them and they could have been in another movie at the time. I always think of it that way. You know, it's like, was Kim Basinger in Batman? Was that a win for her playing Vicki Vale? She wasn't in the second one? Yeah. The reason I wasn't all the way in on it is, I think people can have tiny losses, but not

like who won the movie is so substantive. Who lost the movie? People, like, the Kim Bacer and things are a great example. It's like, it wasn't awesome for her, but it also wasn't bad that she was in a Batman movie, you know? Yeah. Keanu and Dracula was a loss. Like he definitely lost the movie. Sophia Coppola and Godfather 3,

that's who lost the movie. But we're also covering that in, you know, what age the worst or stuff like that. So I don't know if this needs its own category, but I like the idea. Yeah, it's like if you guys did Midnight Run again, like nobody lost Midnight Run, right? It's like, we lost because there wasn't a sequel.

Or they did make this sequel, but none of the people were in it. Right, right, right. This one's going to get at it. I can't believe we didn't think of this. How many have we done, like 240 episodes? people had different they either named it after Scorsese or they didn't

but it was over and over again Best Needle Drop and Dave R writes you guys spent a little time on John Williams for ET but that guy deserved way more credit

for the success of the film I proposed best needle drop for instance Layla would have absolutely won this for Goodfellas would it though what do you think has it well be my baby

and what about racks to riches I don't know what's that can't you hear May you're not going to look in. Yeah. Can you hear me not in Rolling Stones? I don't see. This would be a good category because we'd argue about it.

This is a really good one. I mean, inevitably, we end up having a five-minute conversation about the songs and movies anyway, so this is maybe a good way to focus it. Oh, and then he kissed me. Not be my baby. My bed. We could sneak it in what's age the best. Maybe it's like at the tail end of what's age the best.

We throw in the best needle trap. Would you just call it best needle drop or name it after Scorsese? I feel like it'll come when we are doing a movie where it's, perfect. Yeah. Yeah, because it's like Coppola doesn't have needle drops really, right? Mm-hmm. Although there are some really good needle drops in Apocalypse now. Well.

I think this was the most insane email we got. It's from Adam Klein and Denver. In previous pods, both Burgess married with Leo DiCaprio and Joachim Noah have been described as either Coxman or a world-class stickman. It got me thinking about art imitating life in the Titanic Pod, where Rose, when she dies, has Jack waiting for her aboard the Titanic. He must be her one true love because he fucked her silly in the back of that 1912, Renault.

So basically her entire life turned on that one magical dick, a dick of destiny. I was thinking about how there must be other examples where the sex must be so good that it drives a movie character to be with or stay with somebody that is otherwise completely horrible, like Ginger and Casino, a horrible relationship phrase, but he keeps it going, even though she brings nothing else to the table. So there, that's the new category. He used to describe what one character must have to keep a terrible or illogical couple together.

And he has Forrest Gump. Bill, you wrote this email, admit it. I did not write this email in 2006. Billy Hoyle. Karen Kinsella, who's another one? He listed a bunch of people. And he said, ultimately, this will make us reevaluate the 2021 Nets and the dysfunctional relationship between Kyrie and KD.

I really, just a lot of points for that email. He really, he really, he wrapped it up. Dick and Destiny was hilarious. That's strong. I have this category. He's a great job, great effort. This is smart. I don't think it works for the pod, but I liked it.

The Dave Henderson Award for notable plot point everyone forgets about. Dave Henderson hits the Homer top of the 10th, Game 6, 1986, World Series, and he's going to be a hero, and bars are going to be named after him. then we blow the World Series. Sorry. Jeff Gow, who came up with this idea, he said, an example is E.T. Gertie is the one who offhandedly teaches our little alien friend the rather useful ability of how to talk, without which the E.T. phone home and all of that isn't happening.

And then he says, Titanic, Rose and Jack are the reason the boat sinks because they're making out and the lookouts are watching them make out and they miss the iceberg and the boat crashes. I don't think this works for the pod but I appreciated the ingenuity of this one. It's a good reminder to point these things out when we're doing the movie. We could do this in Wood's Age the best,

something like that. A couple people suggested versions of this. The Barry Wiggum is the one I'll use. He wanted like a who the fuck is that which is like a cousin of stars born where it's like Gandalfini and true romance or Samuel Jackson and Jungle Fever.

This is kind of like a cousin to Joeie Pants. it's like, it's basically they're like, their high school or college highlight mixtape, you know? In a movie. Brad Pitt, Thelman, Louise. But I feel like we could also cover this in what stage is the best. But it's one of those like Gina Davis and Fletch. Who the fuck is that?

I like that one. Cristiano in Brazil thinks that we should have a category at the precise best age to watch a movie. Oh, great idea. Yeah. So like E.T. What is the best possible age to watch E.T. Yeah, it's like 17 for days to confuse.

Right. Right. Right. E.T. is, what, nine, ten? Probably 10. You want to be the same age as Elliot? Yeah. For Bill, what's Halloween?

Like six? Oh, man. When did you show it to Ben? Just every year. I think Halloween and Heat is just every... There is no age. How old was Ben when you first showed him Halloween? Under eight?

Too young. He's, I think he was four. Has Ben seen... Four? Yeah. He's covered his eyes. a couple times. It was fine. The second half of the movie?

He just got into high school. He's fine. Sure. Has Ben seen heat? Too long for him. Okay. Too long for him. He did like Goodfellas a lot, though. Oh. That's great. The best age to watch this movie, I think that could be a good conditional one, though.

Enjoy that. Producer Craig. Yes. What do you think of that one, the precise best stage to watch a movie? I love that one. down my favorites as we go through this. All right. Yeah, at the end, you have to give us like your top seven. Okay. More possible winners.

This one I really liked, except I don't know how we do it in an audio pod. It would almost be like we'd have to do this for YouTube. And a few people suggested it. And one person even took all these screenshots from the movies. And it came from our discussion on ET about that one shot of the bicycle with the moon behind it. And it was most rewatchable shot. And so Jared B. says, different from a scene.

this focuses on a specific camera shot that's memorable, like the pool side, steady cam shot in Boogie Nights, or the slow zoom in on De Niro and Goodfellas when he's contemplating Wacky Moore, which we broke down in the Goodfell's episode. Sean, you're the nergous guy of the three of us. What do you think of this? The most rewatchable shot.

Would we name it after somebody? What would you do here? Let's name it after me. The Sean Fantasy most rewatchable shot? No, no. I mean, Chris will go hog wild on this. He would love to do this. We could call it the great job, Gordon.

Sean, Lord. Love it. The great job Gordon. That's great. for Gordon Willis. I'm writing that one down. Great job, Gordon. Or Gordo.

I think he's Gordoed us now. I don't even think he's Gordon. I'm sure he'd love that. Gordo Willis. What a legacy for him. I like that one. Look, not every movie's going to have it. Like, I'm not sure when we do, I don't know, some random comedy.

We could honor. We could honor Gordon Willis by doing this category every time right after Dick of Destiny. I think he would. I agree. I was thinking Dick of Destiny. It could be its own podcast. Yeah. Craig H. from L.A., who's not Craig Horleback because it's a different age.

Sure, he isn't. What? It's a Craig H from L.A.? You guys should feature Craig way more. He's great. This guy's name was Craig Hirsch. Yeah. Craig H. from L.A., formerly of the Bay Area by way of San Diego. Wow. Nice.

He says, we need a pet award, which I've renamed the Cliff Booth Need a Pet Award. And his question is, would the movie improve if a main character had a pet? For example, Eddie Adams leaves home and heads to Jack Horner's home with his belongings and faithful golden retriever named Bruce Lee. I don't know. Would you like Boogie Nights more if Eddie had brought a golden retriever with him? I would if he had like a pet iguana that he walked around on a leash, you know, if it was something really eccentric. It's no fun if it's just like give this guy a dog. Every guy is better with a dog.

I mean, Cliff's dog and once upon time in Hollywood was, I think, a crucial member of the show. Yes. movie. Rob Cicero in Smithfield, he said, I'm listening to T2 right now and you're talking about Sarah Connor is a bad hang. I think adding a category for

Good Hang, Bad Hang. He called it Best Hang Worst Hang, but we always called a Good Hang Bad Hang. Would be a solid addition. I'm not against this for occasional pods. I do think I like the concept when we argued about whether Sarah Connor was a rough hang.

I do think we should bring that back for some pods. Do you guys think Mike McDee was a good hang? Yeah, loyal friend, ready to go to Atlantic City anytime. Just feel like he would always be like, I got to go home, I got to get up and do my paper route. Who do you think, Sean? Like, worm is a good hang. Gets you in trouble.

But that's not a, is that a good hang? I mean, this is really, this is where the, your wormness comes out, CR. Yeah. You know, you identifying with him. Just put the leather jacket on CR. You know, McDermott, he's trying to have a life for himself, you know? He's trying to put some money together. He's trying to get through law school.

There's something decent about him. What's wrong with that? Let's take a break and then we're going to come back and do best suckups to Chris and Craig. This episode is brought to by Whole Foods Market. Spring is here, so celebrate it with fresh, juicy, seasonal produce

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soundtrack, etc., for any older movie. We kind of had this with the recasting couch. But producer Craig, you got fans out there, like Mr. Kay. There are dozens of them. Chang Kim wants line of the movie. that should be read by Chris as Al Pacino. And he gives his examples, E.T. It was nothing like that, penis breath.

In Jurassic Park, that is one big pile of shit. Lots us to do one quote every time with CR as Pacino. I'm not against it. I bolded it. And then Josh P. said, would this movie be better with Wayne Jenkins? That is playing to the base right there for me. Here's the thing. every movie would be better with Birdthal as Wayne Jenkins if you just threw him in the movie.

Like him in heat? I got to be honest. When we were doing E.T. And C.R. dropped the super cop line on it. I hadn't seen that episode yet. And I was like, I have no idea what Chris is talking about right now. The 800,000 people that are watching me own the city were like, yes.

And everybody else was mystified. That's it. When you saw it, you were like, it all came together. It all came together. That's what we like to do. Roy B. had a suck up to me. I'm a year younger than Bill. So I find it hilarious when the other younger staff give him a hard time about some of his opinions.

And then he bullet pointed some of them. Frank Sinatra was a big deal. That was an opinion I had. This is bullshit. No, this is bullshit. That one is crazy. I know plenty of people who are older than you, Bill, and they never talk about Frank Sinatra's coolest. I like that getting credit for Frank Sinatra.

I was excited how the Gumars and Goodfellas had to be prettier. How I'm in love with every actress from the 80s and how Kay is careful. character from the Godfather movies was terrible. And then he adds, by the way, he is not wrong. So thank you, Roy B. So all of those opinions are generational rather than just like your bizarre taste. I'm on, I think I'm the president of Frank Sinatra Island. People don't talk about the guy enough. Who did you say that email was from Sil Bimmons? Who wrote that? It's Roy B. Javier P. says we should have the K. Corleone Award for the worst character in the movie. Spay Carriana says it should be called the Butch's Gros.

Girlfriend Award. And then Robert Price says, how about the Maria de Madero's Pop-Belly Award for most non-essential character, or just call it the Butch's Girlfriend? Basically, a prominent character is removed from the film, would not be missed in the slightest. And then Mike says, hey, I love the pods. Opposite of Most Rewatchable Scene. I vote naming after Fabien from Pulp Fiction. Those are three Pulp Fiction Butch's Girlfriend emails.

So I know I have a group now of people who agree with me. Yeah, you guys should start a Reddit board or something. That's cool. You and all the weird guys who hate Maria D. Vederos, Pulp Fiction. I do think, and I think this is going to make the cut, I do think the Butch's Girlfriend Award for a character that could disappear from the movie,

and the movie doesn't miss anything should be considered strongly. Like, is now the time to explain why that character is important? We can save it for the inevitable Pulp Fiction podcast. in 2037. Let's save it. Okay. Let's save Pulpiction. So a bunch of people wanted a category,

and I think we have to do it just because there were a lot of them about identifying a point in the movie when it's okay to either pee or go make popcorn or do something. That's smart. Check Twitter. For some reason, this immediately brought me

a shooter when they had to put in the six minutes of shooter and Kate Mara trying to get to know each other better and just like six minutes of bad dialogue. And it's like just a great time to go pee, maybe get some ice cream, and just come back and you've missed absolutely nothing. Lindsay writes, for me it's the scene in Greece when Sandy sings hopelessly devoted to you while hallucinating John Travolta's face in a kiddie pool. Love the song, hate the scene.

So that would be her pee break. I think that the ultimate thing, especially on a rewatch, is the Anchorman flute scene. It's like, you know, I got it. You know, I know what you guys are doing. This is a very long scene, so I'm sure I can go. and get some hummus, come back. Michael Scully suggested the ping pong scene in Forrest Gump is a good example of this. Oh, he's about to play ping pong, I'm going to go pee. Yeah.

You got to make sure you're in your seat, though, for the premature ejaculation. You want to be there for that right, Bill? I do also love the premise of this question. Like, people don't have pause buttons. And it's just like, well, this movie has started, so I guess I'll have to. Well, I guess like, but if you're re-watching,

and it's on T&T or HBO, and the flute scenes coming on Anchorman, And you know instantly like, oh, I'm going to go pee right now. I'm going to see the food scene again. So I like the concept of a pee break, I think, is strong. Music categories, we mentioned the... Can we get that sponsored by like Avion or something? Oh, that's a good idea.

Yeah, that's a good soft drink sponsor. Write that down, Craig. Victor H. wants, would this movie be improved by the addition of Gimme Shelter? You just throw it in. Would it be better? What about the subtraction of Gimme Shelter from multiple Scorsese movies? I really like this email from Travis McVeigh. He calls it the Vincent Chase

is this actually good award. Here's what it means. When a character in a movie presents a piece of art in a movie, I always ask myself if it's actually good, parentheses, the thing from that thing you do, or total crap. But the other characters are acting as if it's great in service of the story,

like the futuristic DJ movie Vince makes in the entourage movie which wins an Oscar. Honestly, this would apply to anything Vincent Chase made an entourage. But he says example of good art portrayals of movies other than that thing you do. Ruper Pumpkin's stand-up was actually good in King of Comedy. Julie Delpy's song at the end of before sunset is actually good. And Neil crushing his play in Dead Poets Society. Those are three examples.

Neil! My son! I like the idea of art. So like once upon a time in Hollywood would be a good one, right? When whatever one of the Leo scenes, it was like, was that actually good? Or was that just good because it's good in the movie? The 14-fifths of McCluskey? Yeah.

Oh, is that actually good? Yeah. But there's also like, I think it's like the higher the degree of difficulty is when the person's art is being portrayed as like life-changing. So like James Earl Jones is writing in Field of Dreams, right? Yeah. And he's like, you were the voice of a generation. I can't remember if they actually do any readings from him.

quotes one line back to him. Yeah. And, but, like, that's, like, when it gets really difficult. If you're like, this is the greatest novelist of all time. And it's like, okay. What about Winona Ryder's documentary and reality bites? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a good one.

She has a final cutoff. Yeah. I think this good. Producer Craig, what do you think of this category? What do you think of naming a category after Vincent Chase? I love it with every fiber of my being. Were you a big entourage guy, Craig? I mean, I watched, I mean, it's the perfect, there's no more perfect show for a kid in college.

Yeah. I watched the whole show in college. But like the forgetting Sarah Marshall vampire play. Perfect. That's another one. Oh, that's a great one. I really, my wife and I just watched that movie, and we were both saying that that play was kind of awesome.

What is that, what is it called? Dracula alone? What's it called? Drapula, the musical. Die! Die! Die! I can't.

That movie's amazing. I told you guys, I wanted to do re-forgeting Sarah Marshall. We should just do this with all the new categories. I love that movie. Abby wants a theme month called Apex Mountain April. It's in the same vein as fucked up family February. But this category will spotlight films where the lead was at the peak of their Star Power Industry ranking, swung for the fences and failed.

Like Kevin Costor and Waterworld or John Chivalton Battlefield Earth or Sandra Boeck and all about Steve. Apex Mountain April. That's the Hudson Hawk Pot, I guess, right? Yeah, the problem is. It wouldn't be fun to rewatch those movies. I don't want to spend any time with All About Steve. That sounds like a lover.

Great idea. I don't know if we can execute it. We will execute this, though. Two awards. People want more food in the rewatchable show. Okay. David Weissman suggests the Big Kahuna, this is a tasty burger award

for best looking food in the film that you would want to try as you're watching it. That's a no-brainer. That's just being added to the podcast. Might be my favorite line. reading in the history of movies. So if we're into that, this is a tasty burger.

And then Josh P. suggests the Den of Thieves Benny Hano Award for the place location that steals the scene more than the actors did. Look, this is also just a lock to be in. Wow. This is like Henry Hills Bar where Tommy kills bats.

Yeah. Location, I think we've almost done like 250 episodes. I don't, probably we've been a little light on location. talking locations, how important they are. So I like this. And then Josh Reese had a similar thing to the Big Kahuna Award. He wanted to call it the Richard Kimball Egg Sandwich Award.

But what was talking about when they make spaghetti sauce and the Godfather, they're preparing the food in Goodfellas, and it just kind of makes you hungry. I think we should add both of these. I was thinking like right around, like maybe after what stage is the best, there's a couple food spots to swing in. That diner and thief is like my ideal diner. This is, I think the single best idea anyone had.

It's from John N. He said, I was listening to your Beverly Hills Cop 2 episode, and you're talking about racehorses. And I thought, why not have a best racehorse name from the movie category? From the movie Heat, you have book about medals, the bank's money, or barbecues, and ball games. And I'm only providing heat examples. I think that's a good one. We have to figure out the best racehorse name from somebody who loves that movie. But it wouldn't be surprising at all if a horse that won the derby was called The Action is the Juice.

Like that's in play. Yeah. Right. So I'm adding this. I love this. I can't wait to figure out a racehorse name for the next one we do. Sierra, I feel like you're not excited enough about this. I'm trying to think of which I would want to name a horse from the departed.

Oh, my God. Probably the porn theater. Did they show the name of the porn theater? No. No, what's that, what's the, what's the combat zone? Combat zone. That's it. That's good. That's good. See, the great category. This, I don't think makes it. It's from Alan Blair and St. Louis, but I really respected it. The Richard Kimball Inappropriate Body Award. He's watched the fugitive. Richard Kimball dressing his own wounds in the hospital bathroom after escaping the jail bus.

It's clear that he's the most ripped vascular search in the history. Oh, yeah. It's fucking crazy. What high performing doctor is time to get a. round reddled shape. Show me a nuclear physicist who's ever looked like Denise Richards' Christmas Jones in that shitty Bond movie. Maybe this makes a cameo every once in a while in this category. But the Richard Kimball points, great.

Why is he so ripped? He's a fucking doctor. What did he have, like, the best solar flex in Chicago? How do you look like that? He's working with Alex Guerrero. He didn't have SEL Award by being a doctor, though. You know, he did it by being jacked. Maybe he just outworked everybody.

We're trending towards right here is doing a refugitive. We did the fugitive way early in the pod when we really didn't have any categories. You'll have to excuse my friend Richard Kimball. He's very sick. Nicholas Kay thinks we should have a finishing move wrestling category, like the Stone Cold Stunner or the Rock Bottom or Sweet Shin music. the one-line scene shot image tagliner moment that sold the movie

and his example was there here with Poltergeist. Yeah. I don't think it's quite there, but I like the spirit behind it. Yippie Kaye, motherfucker. It was a good one, you know. Sean, you like this. Well, there's a bunch of stuff about

was it the right title for the film? Oh. And if it wasn't, could we come up with a better title? Okay. Nobody really had the right award for it. Leah Bras suggested, what's the title if it's a Tarantino film? which I kind of liked.

But I think the question of right title, wrong title, you know, like Shawshank Redemption, we talked about this, Chris, when we did that with my dad, and we decided that was a terrible title because it actually drove people away from the movie. Nobody knew what it was. But if it had been like escaped to Zawanteneo,

it would have been a really good way of the movie, escape to Mexico, whatever. Escape to Mexico. That might have given the movie away a little bit. But ET, if you call the ET phone home, is that a better title or worse title? I think it would have been more confusing. It's called it night sky. It's called E.T. The extraterrestrial.

It's not a great title. Isn't it? I think it really does what it says it's supposed to do. Just like Star Wars. I agree. I think it worked. Star Wars, great title. I guess we should think about what are episodes we've done in the past where the title,

even though it's kind of burned into our brain, like, doesn't totally make sense, or we feel like we could have done better. you know yeah this is a conditional category like the hangover is a great title forgetting sarah marshals a great right title right most movies have the right title but sometimes they miss with the title so i i just think we should keep that in our background chris you wanted to rename amistad right what was what was your take on that rob mcdermott said if you had to and then he put in caps had to make a sequel how would you make it good? And he said there are no wrong answers.

A heat sequel that saw Valcomer's character picking sides between Taiwanese crime families and a gangland war in Mexico would have sounded insane, but there goes Michael Mann. So prequel or sequel? I don't think it should be every pod, but I think we should keep that in mind.

Yeah, for any movie that doesn't have a sequel, I think that's pretty fun. Ordinary people, too. Dragos wanted Nadir Valley, which would be the opposite of Apex Mountain. An actor filmed it during his low point, and his career was subsequently revived by this movie like John Chavolta and Pulp Fiction.

I don't think it totally works, but I like the concept of Nadir Mountain, but I think it would be Nadir Valley, right? Yeah, it would be a Mountain, it would be a valley. I don't think it works. Somebody sent another email about that called the Golden State Down 20 Award for, like, and they said Chavolta and Pulp Fiction,

the comeback over. Yeah. We can just do that in what stage is the best for the Trowlota thing? But isn't the Nader Valley like, look who's talking to or whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah, but we would never do that movie. So, like, Nader Valley makes sense.

It just, we wouldn't never do a movie that had a Nader Valley. Yeah, yeah. I wonder if you could tweak it going back to the NBA, and it's almost like, um, actor and a contractor. Like, this is probably their last chance to be in a movie this good, and they, they pull it off. Like they, they, the Jerome James? Yeah.

Like, a little. That's Bruce. So, Ruth. Sorry, shot. Evan Fitz, a couple of people had. this. Evan Fitzsimmons wanted an homage to one of my favorite Chris Ryan jokes. He has favorite

Chris Ryan jokes apparently. On the field of dreams pod when he said, imagine if Ray Leota RIP from the second half of Goodfellas was coming out of the cornfield. So he says, new category. An actor who underperformed in the movie, even though they've been good in other movies, and they just

bring the character from another movie into make their movie better. He said, I said in Mr. Mom, how Terry Gar wasn't that good in Mr. Mom, but I would have loved it if it was Tutsi, Terry Gar. And he wants to call this the Jimmy Buckets Award for Jimmy Butler's ability to underperform in Minnesota and then subsequently be better in Philly. Something there. It's really an excuse for CR to just do impressions. To do Henry Hill. Yeah. Yeah. I just keep flashing back on a few good men every time I hear a new category. And I'm like, to me Moore is absolutely terrible in a few good men, but she's incredible in other movies.

You know, it's like, is that her nadir valley? Even though she's, in that great movie? Yeah, could she have done if she had done like the about last night, Demi Moore in a few good men, is it a better movie?

Yeah. I think that she might not have been like taking it seriously as a lawyer, but yeah. What about the disclosure? Dyscliveni Demy Moore? Yeah, Disclosure.

Strip Demy Moore, yeah. Indecent proposal. Todd Ressler wants the Henry Hill and E.T. award, I think inspired by Chris. What other movie

would you like to see the man character from this movie in? Oh, yeah. And he suggested like Indiana Jones and Proof of Life, Henry and Goodfellas in ET. We just take characters we like and throw them in different movies. Daniel Plainview and Moneyball. I don't think this is in every thing, but I think we should keep in the back of our heads.

That's pretty funny. And then same thing, Kyle Barlow had a Quentin Tarantino Universe, actor, character, fringe relational award about how Tarantino likes to have people who are related to people. And he said for the E.T. episode, a potential winner could have been Drew Barrymore, what if her character and E.T. became Julia and the wedding singer. The case for that being

she breaks up with her fiancé to get with Adam Sandler because she's scarred from growing up as a child of divorce. That's good. Pretty good. Not bad. I don't know if that's category worthy, but I think we could put that in what stage is the best. A lot of Tom Cruise, can we make fun of Tom Cruise more stuff?

I don't... Tom Cruise is great. Like make fun of what? How when he tries to either be human or tries to play sports. There's a lot of like Tom Cruise throwing a baseball award, things like that. Chris has the ultimate impression of him in oblivion. Oh yeah, when he's just like, the big game was here.

Thousands of fans. And then touchdown. I was watching War of the Worlds on an airplane and the baseball scene is just so goddamn funny. I don't know why he's throwing the baseball like that. Do you think he threw it, he practiced and threw out his shoulder? I don't know. Lest we forget the extraordinary gymnastics he did in the firm, though.

You know, those backhand springs. I have to admit, if I've been quiet over these last 15 minutes, it's because I just keep thinking of Wayne Jenkins in different movies. I was just thinking of what if Wayne Jenkins was the Tom Cruise character in War of the Worlds?

Mitchell Adams wants a category called the multiverse. Which character from another movie would you most like to see multiverse into the movie you're watching. His example was putting Jesus Shuttlesworth and Hoosiers. That's good.

I thought that was good. It doesn't work, but it was funny. And then Peter Lonsdale wanted the Martin Scorsese Award for Best Prelude to a Blow Job Scene. And then put in parentheses, casino, you can pound that big feel for two hours and still won't be tender. Watch the leather, honey.

That's good fellas, isn't it? Or good, I guess, good fellas. Yeah, he put Casino. There really aren't that many blowjob scenes, though, movies. It's like we only really get like Scorseseo movies. Paradei present

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just like a quick moment in a movie. Like once upon a time in Hollywood, the moment when Leo looks back at Cliff after Cliff says, remember you're Rick fucking Dalton. So it's like a three-second thing.

I don't think it works, but I like the spirit of it. So people think, and Devin Kuchinka thinks that the overacting award should just be called the Mark Ruffalo, Saul Rubeneck, Vincent Hanna, Linda Partridge Award, that everybody should be honored in the award. Yeah. Because we shouldn't have moved on. We should overname the overacting award. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel like we've slighted Saul Rubinick, but not invoking him recently. I just, I don't know. What he does is, is different from, because those other actors are like great actors that everybody loves. I love when somebody comes in and you're like, this person is not famous and they're just like, fuck it. I'm taking over.

Maybe this is an opportunity for you to flex your audio montage skills and put together just like a eight second clip of people screaming. Oh, wow. Before we do the overactive. I want the truth. Don't call me a lady. You stab me in the heart. don't call me lady like put that and i'll put that in at the start of every every time we do that category

yeah and i think everybody just driving along with their kids in the car would appreciate like a quick five second burst of screaming coming up i'll just jack up the volume on it they do it's not only overacting it's also over editing on my part yeah josh fireman he wants us to have an award called the lebron james knew this movie would be a watchable when he first saw it in high school word, which we're not going to have, but I really appreciate the comedy of that. You know, in LeBron saw Heat, he knew he knew Heat was going to be a classic. He'd been scouting Heat for years. So here's one, Sean, that I liked.

It's called Just One Oscar. It's from Allen B. The movie only gets one Oscar who gets it in why. So E.T. who gets the Oscar? Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Really good. That's like, you know, everyone.

Every team has to have an all-star. You know, like if every... Honestly, that should just be on every episode. Yeah. And you should... Like, E.T., what would we... John Williams. John Williams, yeah.

Just won Oscar, John Williams? We can do that one quick. That's like 20 seconds. It's kind of funny to do it for like wedding crashers, though, too. Yeah. Right? That's true. Every...

We have to do it for every movie. It has to go to Bradley Cooper. Yeah. Yeah. Jason P. says, I will never forget the dismay I felt upon learning Rick Springfield dated a 15, year old Linda Blair after the Exorcist. In the spirit of that all-time bad beat, I proposed the

Rick Springfield Award for the most egregious retrospective bad beat, like Michael Corleum marrying a 16-year-old Apollonia, or from the Exorcist, Jason Miller turning down taxi driver to make the nickel ride. But can we have a bad beat category? We can. I don't know if we should name it after Rick Springfield dating a 15-year-old, but I feel like that's in what's age or worse, we're covered. I brought that up because I didn't know Rick Springfield dated a 15-year-old. year old Linda Blair. What the fuck? Not ideal. Jesus, Rick Springfield. Not ideal.

Apex Mountain. A lot of people are confused what Apex Mountain is. Seems to be a relative consensus. Just be like, was this weird. Were you unaware of that? Did you think we were just nailing it every time? It's when you see it really, you know, unfolding in real time over emails. People just were like, why can't this just be the peak of their career? The funniest thing ever is if there is a special guest on the show, you know,

like a Bill Hader and Aaron Sork, and you have to explain it. Just watching you explain it is extraordinary. So I don't, I kind of don't want to lose that. I feel like that's part of the podcast. I agree. That's right.

It's a category that never made sense. But Steve Groot Hughes, Groot Hughes, he says, baseball players choose the hat team to represent them on their hall of fame plaque. Oh, yeah. Would this be the movie,

the actor, writer, director would wear as their hall fame hat? Yeah. Tremendous question. There's also, like, you could also throw it, This is like first paragraph of the obituary known for movies such as

that is like, is this in the first sentence there? What order does it come in? Yeah. So he asks, E.T. Is that Spielberg's Hall of Fame Hat? Die Hard, Bruce Willis. Top Gun, Tom Cruise. This is good.

This should be a category. Hall of Fame. I mean, are you going to retire Apex Mountain? Are you going to do, is Hall of Fame hat different than Apex Mountain for you? No, because I like having them both because it's more confusing. I think Hall of Fame Hat can come right after Apex Mountain.

That's good stuff. Apex Mountain's about the juice you have in your career. Hall of Fame Hat is just so easy to understand. It's legacy. It's like in retrospect, it turns out you'll always be known for this. What's PTA's Hall of Fame Hat? Right now, I think it's there will be blood. I think it is too.

But I don't know if that's what it'll be. For me, it's buggy nuts. He's got one coming that's going to win him like six Oscars, though. That's probably going to be the one in like 10 years. Because they're going to be like, shit, we didn't, why didn't we get? give this guy any Oscars. Is that Venom 3? Hopefully, fingers crossed. Jay Torres thinks we should name the Apex Mountain category after somebody because all the

categories are named after people for the most part. And he suggests the Catherine Tremel Apex Mountain category. I'm not against it. Catherine Tremel Apex Mountain is just the picture of Sharon Stone's face. It's like 500 yards. All right. Last one. Craig, it's another Vincent Chase Award. This comes from We're doing two awards named after Vincent Chase. These are suggestions. Kyle Barlow, he says in season 3A, episode four, guys and dolls of entourage, there's a scene in Ari's office with Vincent the Boys right off the heels of success of Acomban.

Ari presents multiple scripts. Fox wants you to this movie, $7 million, throws script in the trash. Miramax, $8 million, throws it in the trash, brings out the Medellan script, which is what Medellin. Medellin. which Vince always wanted. They thought the script was dead. Aquaman was Vince's Apex Mountain because he could do any script.

Med A.E. and almost cost him his career. Therefore, I think the award name on the Rio Watchable should be changed to the Vinnie Chase Aquaman Apex Mountain Award. That's tough. We're definitely not doing that. But it was the first thing I've ever seen that accurately explained Apex Mountain. Right. It's like, are you at the point? point where you can just throw scripts in the trash.

Yeah. Yeah. There it is. We've explained Aquaman and Apex Mountain. There you go. That's all we have for categories. Way too much entourage in this conversation. I think both questions came from Kyle Barlow.

I think he was both. Kyle Barlow was one of the... Yeah, he really loved that episode. So here's what I'm thinking for new categories for the next time we do it. So these are possibles. Best year-specific signal. do that. Call that the Warren G Regulator Award for Best Year's Specific Signal. I still don't know if we need that. The Slow Ride Award for Best Needle Drop. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Because slow ride. I mean,

come on. That's a good. That's confused. I like that. Yeah. Do you want to do your specific signal or no? Can we just cover that one? It's just a little confusing. I think your specific signal is kind of like a mouthful, but like maybe if you call it like the what time is it award? These should all be no-brainers or they're not going in. Kahuna Burger Award for Best Food Drink, definitely. Den of Thieves Benihanna Award for Scene Stealing Location. That's definitely in. Yep.

Should we have a hottest take award? Should it be conditional? Or should we just shoehorn it into what stage the best? I think it's better when they come up organically, right? Yeah. Yeah, you should have almost like a button you can hit to give that award to like a random opinion. I'm sure Sean and I would appreciate that for some of your takes.

Okay. It's a no brain or two for like classic movies where we've like accepted. of the conventional wisdom of something and being like, I'm going the other way. It's kind of the Zag Award is really what it is. P-break? Love P-Brick. It's good. What should we name P-Brick after?

Or just call it P-Brick? What was the example that you used? I mean, I don't think Shooter should get that kind of recognition. Wouldn't get, but maybe, I don't know, something for Boogie Nights. Maybe Dirk at the Church Award for Best P-Brike. Yeah, there's not a lot of breaks in Bouging nights for me.

I don't know. I thought the flute example was really good, Chris. Yeah, that's good. An anchor man. Anchorman flute scene. Flute P. Break award. Brought to you by Coors Light. Yeah.

The Butch's Girlfriend Award for Weeklink of the film scene, character, plot, whatever. Or would you cut five minutes? Some sort of cut. cut, but I think that overlaps with P-break, so I don't think we need it. Well, there's inessential, and then there, so I guess if you're going to do this Butch's girlfriend thing, which I'm kind of appalled by, I do think that it should be like the character you could lose with no material of impact on the movie.

All right, so then after casting what ifs, if it's the overacting award, I like having the CP3 award for worst meltdown, even though we'll never use it. I'm just going to have that in the categories in case there's a movie. that comes up where we can do it. Yeah, where it's just like, wow, look at this person. They just really, their hamstring must have gone. The Butch's girlfriend, we can keep and use every once in a while. The Tony Snell Award is probably better than Booch's girlfriend.

I like giving Tony Snell an award, too. I like that one a lot. Which one do you like, Chris? I just, the only reason I hesitate with Tony Snell is that I think that the, the award that I have to explain as much as Apex Mountain is Dionne Waiters. Yeah, you're right. Tony Snell's even more obscure. I would argue that Tony Snow is less famous than Dion is.

Good point. The James Harden Award for actor least interested in being there. It's all basketball. Well, I think it's better to call it the Jalen Rose Keep Getting Them Checks Award. Because people know what that means. Keep getting them checks. That's like Sam Jackson and Deep Blue Sea. That's a Jalen Rose Award winner right there.

Sam's in for like 20 minutes. Good Hang Bad. hang. These are all going to be like conditional every once in a while. The Judith Myers Award for Character Definitely Killed First of a horror movie. People mostly think that the Joey Pants Award is too confusing.

I think that guy is a great category though. Yeah. I think we're going to change it back to best that guy and really save it for when it's a true that guy. Or not do it. And then the Teddy KGB Award for the actor doing his own thing or her own thing.

can replace Judd Nelson. We're going to retire Jed. So long, Jed. Best racehorse name is in. Recasting Couch, 2022 is in. Apex Mountain adding the Hall of Fame plaque thing. For me, the action is the Juice Award for Best Quote. And then a lot of people were like the Netflix thing,

that's the worst category. Everybody, you know, it's just every time you decide it would be better off as a movie. So I tweaked it. I checked this with CR. This could be after picking Nits. Sequel, Prequel, Prestige TV, all black cast are untouchable. You have to pick one of the five.

You like that, CR? Yeah. Yeah, you goose that one a little bit. I like it. Thank you. Because Vance's whole thing about make this movie in all black cast is a great one.

So I don't think we should lose that at all. love that category though because most of the time decide than the three of us you know that that's right why not um but like most of the time we say no it's perfect as is but when we don't that leads to some of the best conversations yeah i wouldn't want to next time every once in a while also when we're talking about like i don't think they should make this as a netflix series but if they did it should be this i think that's when we started talking about like yeah why aren't we making a jaws like yeah yeah the jaws spinoffey island right isn't that right sequel prequel prestige tv all black cast are untouchable.

Okay. I think we're going to bring back Would this movie be better with? Because the Wayne Jenkins thing inspired me. With Wayne Jenkins? Would this movie be better with Wayne Jenkins,

Danny Treo, Catherine Hahn, Steve Bouchemmy, Sam Jackson, or Philip Baker Hall? We just have to pick one of the six quickly. I always want J.T. Walsh on a list like this, too.

All right. I'll add him. I just want J.T. Walsh yelling at characters. Maybe we just call this, Would this movie be better with dot dot dot and you pick people can put in whatever it's just going to be wayne jangids for everyone is this pause excuse me sir you're trying to take over the nakatomi plaza on my watch god damn and a motherfucker brick

are all episodes of the pod going to be six hours now no i think we can bang this out in like an hour 40 one oscar minimum did i call that just one oscar yeah that's a great one that's better just one Oscar some of these that can be answered in like a minute that's what I was thinking like the Hall of Fame plaque like that's just a great new category I lost the email where the person suggested this but best double feature choice for this movie so you're watching this movie what would be the second movie if you just wanted to make a good four hours like what would you pair with heat it's almost like where the soma is

what you pair with heat Chris would you go lighter maybe a little like you've got to kind of wind down from all the action? Like, so you just basically, like, what's the best, like, sort of... For heat? I feel like we'd stammer too much during this. I like this category more on paper than I do if we're actually doing a podcast. This is literally how I think about, like, every night of my life. Right.

Oh, maybe we just turn it over Sean. All right, I'll make this conditional. Great job, Gordon, and the Double Future Award are both Sean Fantasy Awards. Well, wouldn't you, like, wouldn't you just do thief, thief and heat, and then just look at how they mirror each other and how they're different. But he's got a good point. It's like sometimes you want to decompress from it, you know? Oh, I forgot to add the best shot award.

The Gordo. I feel like half of these bill will not apply in certain episodes. Like, it's going to actually be up to you to be like, I feel like we should answer this one. Yeah, I'm just going to have to do a tiny bit more work, but it's fun. The Andy and Red Zouantanae Award for what's next for what's next day. The next day. for the next day. I think we have to add that.

Like, does Dr. Richard Kimball open his own practice? He's probably on talk shows the next day, right? What piece of memorabilia is you want from this movie? The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson, I think I'm going to add. And I don't think who lost the movie makes sense.

So that's it. Producer Craig, what were your favorites? You hit most of them. Did you want to add? This is another conditional. one, but was that actually good? Like the vampire musical? Oh, yeah, I did like that one.

So what was the vampire music called? I think it's called Dracula the Musical. The Dracula the Musical word? That's good. I think that's a good idea. That will come up. It's not going to come up every episode. It won't come up every episode, but it will come up some.

What else do you have, Craig? Based on what you've read, I think that's probably it. I think so. We've added a lot. We've added like 10, 10, 12 categories. But I think all of them can be quick hitters except for, yeah. Stuff like just won an Oscar, I feel like we could do in 30 seconds. Yeah, the Hall of Fame plaque ones are really good.

The thing I can't wait for, Bill, though, is when, like, one of us is about to share like a really warm, personal anecdote about a movie. And you're like, great. Okay, so let's get into the first of 102 categories. I saw this with my dad and When we get to the acting categories I think I'm just going to pick like three of them Like between overacting

Worst Meltdown, Butch's girlfriend Keep getting them checks, good hang, bad hang Like I just think you grab three of those I'm already so confused I'm gonna be asking you every episode Like wait what award is that? It's gonna be fun We'll get through this

Oh and then best racehorse name we're adding What about the one about like The scene you want to be close to? I really liked that one too What was that? The scene you would like to be close to while it's happening. The close proximity award? Oh yeah.

What would you like to witness? We call that the witness award? You know, like I would like to be in the crowd of people watching Joe La Trulio get his ass kicked in super bad. You know, like there's a lot of those. All Valley. Yeah, that's good. I'll add that. Okay.

That's it. Thanks to the listeners. Don't send us any more suggestions because we're at capacity. We have too many. But I do think Close the email address. Yeah, we should, Craig, just take it down. I do think this will make the pod better, though.

Any last words? No, but we're coming back this week, aren't we? Yeah, we're coming back. We're going to do a movie this week and we're going to try to shoehorn in a bunch of these categories. Should we just say what the movie is? Yeah.

Yeah. We're doing Copeland because our guy Ray Leota died. Huge part of Goodfellas, which I think was the most listened to rewatchables podcast we've ever done. I believe so. That and proof of life, yeah. Proof of life, country strong.

Only Helen Mirren's plays. They count for the 100,000 each. Anyway, we're doing Copeland. We've been meaning Chris can attest. We've texted about it a bunch of times. Should this be Copeland thinking, but we've always kind of had on the back burner. Copeland is coming off a very strong 2022 cable run.

It is an incredible 4 p.m. before basketball starts. And I cannot wait to do this one. All right. Chris, Sean, great to see. It's produced by producer Craig Horleback as always, and we'll see you in a couple days with Cochland. Thanks for this.