The Rewatchables - ‘The Vanishing’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan

Episode Date: February 7, 2023

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The vanishing is next. When Jeff's girlfriend disappeared. He imagined the worst. He's gone, Jeff. You just have to learn to accept that. And then... Hello, Jeff. I'm the men you're looking for.

He lived out. I can find out everything. You must experience what she experienced. Is he dead? Jeff Bridges, Kiefer Sutherland, Nancy Travis. No! The Vanishing, Ridden Are, now playing at theaters everywhere. All right, The Vanishing.

Came out in 1993. It was a box office bomb. Uh-huh. Was reviled for the fact that it remade a beloved Dutch horror movie? Yes. Dutch or Danish? It was Dutch. It was a French Belgian copro, but it was in Dutch.

Yeah. It started Jeff Bridges, starting a really fun Jeff Bridges run. It started Kiefer Sutherlandman before he became really a true star. Yeah. It had Sandra Bullock before she was famous. It cost $20 million. You're just going to skip right over Nancy Travis. I see how we're doing it.

14.5 billion. Yeah, Nancy Travis. I love this movie. And every once in a while in the rewatchables, we want to do movies that we love. Yeah. That we feel like everyone else was wrong. And this is a, everyone else was wrong.

I'm in the right. For 30 years, I feel like this comes on. I'm like, all right, I'll watch to the part when he doesn't know where he's playing Hacky Sacky. North Sanjapuoka is. Jeff Bridges just showed up as he's doing it. I'll watch the end of this. And what is it about this movie?

The formative movies for you and me, the ones that really raised us and the ones that got us where we are today, are where they took movie stars, and then they fucking terrorized them. And this was such a big thing in the 90s where it was like, let's get Michael Douglas, let's get Julia Roberts,

let's get Annabelle Shiora, and then let's just terrorize them with a scenario. And this is like, on its surface, like the original, we can do the original versus the remake or whatever, but on its surface, this is such a great idea because it's something everybody has had a pang of. You've been somewhere,

and then all of a sudden, whether it's your kid, your spouse, or whatever, is missing. And now, hopefully, everybody listening to this, that's never happened for more than five minutes or whatever. But it's such a good premise, and then they just take it further and further and further and further in this movie. I remember the trailer. 93, so we're going to be doing a lot of 1993 movies this year,

and this is one of the reasons we picked the Vanishing. I remember the trailer and being like, yeah, definitely seeing that. Yeah. And I didn't know about the, the 1988 version of this. But I was completely satisfied when I left the theater. I was surprised that it wasn't reviewed well. And then I was living with my buddy, Jeff Gallo and Charlestown. And this was on all the time.

And we just kind of started talking like Barney and we'd be like, you want to go to Dunkin' Donuts? Let's go drink the coffee. Jeff Bridges is so crazy in this movie. He's had such an odd career. Would you make lunch for Gallo and be like, I hope you liked roast beef? It's such a great, weird performance that he gets no credit for at all.

His body, like physically. He's not that old at this point. Like a year later, he makes blown away the Boston Fire Tomlinie Jones movie. I have a lot of it. I mean, it would just be me complaining about it for an hour and a half about how they use the city of Boston and how they're going downhill for the last 15 minutes somehow. But he's like really in his prime as an A-LIS director.

This is his big revival, yeah. But it seems like he's like 60 in this movie. He's got like a little pop belly. He's got this weird part of the haircuts in American film history. And he's just a lunatic. And you're buying it. And you're like, I'm kind of like hanging out with this guy. I'm scared of him.

I don't know. I thought it was a really good performance. Did you ever see that Matt Damon video where he's telling the story about Malcovic showing up on the set of Rounders? and like the prank first take he does with the like if you want to see the money like and everybody's just like uh do you think that happened on this movie with Jeff Burgess

they just never intervened it's like they got like three three days into shooting and they're like what's see just get this is the accent are you going to talk to him about the voice or is that like or do you think that the director who's who's you know Dutch or whatever is like that voice sounds great to me

good job Jeff printed love it Yeah, this is probably an answerable question we can do now. I have no idea why Barney has this accent. He lives in Seattle. He grows up in Seattle. They show him like, oh, I was like, as a kid, I stood on the ledge and I just kept, I jumped. It's like, so you're a ledge in like the Lake of Washington, but you have an accent.

It's an insane performance. It catches him. It catches Kiefer who became Jack Bauer 10 years later. Sure. And you can't, or seven years later. And you can't watch him in anything. and not think of Jack Bauer. I watch him now

and I just think this is Jack Bauer. Yeah, but this is closer to his flatliners, lost boys. Yes. And I guess like younger Jack Bostan by me, Kiefer Sutherland.

So really like one of the hottest young actors in Hollywood at the time. And there. Is he with Julia in 93? Well, so I had this as a problem in answer.

I'm doing all my problem in answerable questions now. Does he take this movie because two years earlier Julie Roberts left him on the altar at the altar for Jason Patrick? and it was the real life vanishing.

She's just gone. They're about to get married. It might have been more subtle. And so he's getting scripts and he's like, oh, I like this one about this guy whose girlfriend disappears. It's really hitting home. I think that there was a lot of juice by this project when it first came out. So just as a little bit of context, the 1988 version of The Vanishing is somewhere between

an art film and a thriller. It's really, really sparse. It doesn't have quite the same music to this. And it basically doesn't have the Rita character. So it doesn't have the Nancy Tramination. Reida's in there but out. She's like, you're too weird about. She's not as major of like a detective as she is in this movie.

And the vanishing, the first vanishing is notable for the bleakness of its ending. And when George Sluzer with a guy directed the film was brought in to do the American remake, he had negotiated essentially like, great, I'll do it. But we have to keep the ending. Like the ending is the whole point of the movie is that your obsession kills you, right? He's like, we're keeping the ending around. Like, yeah, totally. And then they showed it to like six people in Sherman Oaks, and they were like, absolutely fucking not.

Well, the guy who he made the deal with, Joe Rob, left for another studio. Yeah. So the new guy came in and poor George. George is like, so I have this movie. So the ending, we're still going to keep the ending. And they're like, one more test screening. And then they go film the extra 20 minutes. Yeah.

So a movie ending, the way this movie, would you rather have had it end that way or the way? the ridiculous way it ends here where he gets saved. Well, I kind of wonder whether or not, if this movie, a couple of different things would have to change, but if this movie was the original and was the Hollywood version of this and somebody, Todd Graff had written

an original screenplay that had that ending, do you get seven, like a few years earlier? Like, are people like, holy shit, you got to see the vanishing because of the ending. Right. You know what I mean? So if they did to seven

what they did with this movie, it's like a mannequin head in the box, not Quinnifopatra, and she's just being held at gunpoint. Right. And then she gets saved. I don't know why they don't make movies like this anymore. And I was thinking about,

like, another one that's like this is Breakdown with Kurt Russell. There's really no reason that movie even exists. This guy just gets terrorized by a trucker, and then you go into this whole world where the trucker lives with these two other people, and he has to free his wife from the basement. and it's just a bizarre but really fun movie. But more importantly, it's just like, I just like hanging out with Kurt Russell.

Yeah, it's a scenario movie. It's like you could write it on the back of a matchbook be like, guy's wife vanishes. Do they make scenario movies anymore? They make them as horror movies now. Right. So I think that they've just basically like turned up the volume on like how extreme the scenarios are

and also the violence. And then they make them as horror movies because the hard movies are reliably profitable even though the movie industry is in such dismay. So if they made this in 2003, Barney is like a serial killer. Yeah. Or Barney is...

He kills Rida. He just starts killing everyone in Jeff's life. Right. And I also don't think probably... I mean, like, you could see a Blumhouse version of this movie where like Kevin Bacon is the killer and I don't know. Or Ethan Hawk is the killer.

It's like Black Phone. Yeah. But what I really miss is the stuff getting elevated by the fact that Kiefer Sutherland, Sandra Bullock, and Nancy Travis... Nancy Travis is kind of ridiculous in this movie. But Kiefer Sutherland and Sandra Bullock are like on their way to be

pretty big movie stars if they're not already. And you just can't see Chris Evans and Florence Pugh playing the couple. You know what I mean? Yeah, you're right. It's not... But like, why wouldn't you want to do it? It's an hour and 45 minutes.

It can't... They shot outside Seattle. Like, you knock it out. It's like... And if you say Chris Evans' wife disappears at a gas station, I'm in. I feel like they're making... I feel like Gerard Butler is remaking all of these movies

that we love. But he makes three at once and puts them all in the same movie. They just kind of merges them different things. Jeff Bridges has this run here from 88 to 94 where he makes Tucker The Man in his Dream

which is a Coppola movie that was supposed to be his big Jeff Bridges was one of those guys where he was like the athlete that every year they were telling us he was going to be the MVP in the league and it just kind of never happened and then he has this awesome stretch

with fabulous Baker Boys which I think might be my favorite Jeff Bridges movie other than this one which I've seen the most times the Fisher King, American Heart, the vanishing, fearless, blown away. And he's definitely an A-lister, but he's making different choices

than the usual A-lister. Like, who's he competing against? Val Kilmer. He's kind of, those kind of group cruises at the top of the mountain. Is he like a little younger than Pacino, right? He's like five, six, seven years younger than like the DeVolve DeNiro Pacino class of guys?

He's kind of between him because his first big movie was Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. I love that movie, which is awesome. That's like 75, him and Clint. Yeah. And then King Kong was supposed to be his Jeff Bridges as the biggest star in the world movie and it never quite made it.

Right. And then he just had, he had a lot of at bats where it's like, no, this is the one. I love Starman. Starman was great. Starman is another one where it was like this is going to be a big blockbuster. Fisher King he gets nominated for, I believe, right? Or Robin Williams. By the late 80s, people are like, oh, maybe it didn't happen with one mat.

Like, he never had his top gun. Yeah. but the totality of the movies started to add up. Oh, you can go through his filmography and you probably are, you can't count on two hands the amount of movies that you'd be like, oh, put on Starman, put on fearless, put on white squall. Like, I mean, yeah. It kept going and it's been almost a 50 year career.

I think this is my favorite kind of choice that he made. It's so weird that he's in this movie. Yeah. It really should have been, I don't know, not somebody as famous or as successful as him. Do you think that people were getting because of Cape Fear and Silence? Silence is what, 92, right? Oh, that's a good call.

So silence and Cape Fair, I need my villain movie. I need my serial killer. My crazy villain? My cycle killer, yeah. And I think it was probably in the water at that point where you're just like, that's the challenge. Do you like roast beef? I have this roast beef sandwich figure in my glove compartment.

I think one of the reasons this movie is so rewatchable and why I loved it so much for 30 years is how fucking weird Barney is. Barney is one of, you know, he's in the Mount Rushmore with like Buffalo Bill and Silence of the Lambs and just on that level of like, I don't even know how they conceived of this person.

Well, the best part is, is that when they do, when they finally get Barney to explain himself and he's doing all the flashbacks to him being a kid and then him being a dad who rescues the girl drowning. I'm like, that's not what I'm curious about. What I'm curious about is what's up with you and your wife. Well, as your daughter, Rudy Feet,

have an affair. Your daughter is like, Dad, do you have a girlfriend every five minutes? You spend all your time in this weird cabin and your wife is either completely blitzed on volume or doesn't care that you have no friends. You know, because at the birthday party, it's just like him and his daughter.

Here I am with my two best friends. You couldn't get one guy from Barney's chemistry class to be like, hey man, you want to bush light? I don't think he was a great hang, Barney. Yeah, you think? I don't think he was getting invited over for charades on Thursday night. Like you're vet and barney ever?

Professor Cousins staring at the missing posters again Totally normal Isn't that a red flag too? He's just going by the board I admired his perseverance He's so weird We're going to get into all the parts

That just are unbelievable about this movie Here's the thing that I want to mention Oh, go ahead Salon wrote a piece 12 years ago that named this the worst remake of all time If you like the original this is basically like sacrilegious.

Well, you know it was sacrilegious to our guy, Raj. Yeah, he fucking hated this movie. He gave, this is the first time we've done how many movies, Craig? Like, at least 275, something like that? This is the first one star we've ever done from Raj. Raj one fucking star did this. He said, Sluzer was hired to come to America and direct the English language remake himself.

But he has savaged his masterpiece as thoroughly as a hired hack had been brought in to do the job. And then he says, him and the producers believe the American movie audience is so witless, it will not accept uncompromising fidelity to a story idea. Are Europeans deserving of smart, cynical

filmmaking, but Americans have to be approached on a more elementary level? I don't know. I simply know that George Sluzer is directed two films named the Vanishing, and one is a masterpiece, and the other is laughable, stupid, and crude. One star. Holy shit, Rod.

A little chin music. My feelings were hurt. Yeah. Because I'm like, I love The Vanishing. Am I like an idiot? Am I a bad person? No, but the Vanishing is also if you just watch The Vanishing in a vacuum, right? Like if you're listening to this podcast and you're like, I guess I'll watch The Vanishing

because these guys are talking about it. First of all, you have to go find it on Cinemax, which is the only place where it's streaming right now. Yeah, DirecTV has it. Second of all, if you treat this as if it's like your movie of the week that you're going to treat yourself to, like I can understand why you might be disappointed in me and But you have to understand that this movie was just on constantly. It was.

All the time. And all that for probably, I told Craig, like, it was on for seven straight years on HBO at Cinemas. So when it's movies like this, when it's like proof of life where like I can understand like, I love proof of life. But if you sat down and we're just like, I'm going to watch one film this month, it'll be proof of life. I understand why you'd be disappointed.

If you saw proof of life one and a half times a day for six months, you'd be pretty into David Caruso. Yeah, I feel like I've spent as much. much time with Barney as I have with like Tony soprano. Yeah. She's all the time being weird, practicing his arm sling trick. One of the great things about this movie that I just really appreciate is the first

10 minutes, it's a whole other movie. It's just this fucking maniac trying to figure out how he's going to do his chloroform abduction trick. And to the point where he picks up his little girl at school, and even she's like, dad's fucking weird. Yeah. like he's like oh got your nose

just to test how my arm reaches over a chloroformer woman and then she's kind of like cool and then the seatbelt comes and she's like is dad gonna kill me so right away we have the weirdest vibe ever for a movie and then all of a sudden we're in a different movie with Kiefer Sutherland and Sandra Bullock

and it's like wow that girl's cute like her is that the girl what was that what was that uh that potion movie she was in love potion number nine that's how I knew her this is right around speed too right that speed was a year later Yeah. So she's, that's how I knew her, but I was like, wow, this girl's cute.

I hope this isn't the one that's going to vanish, right? Right. Yeah, turns out it was. And then Kiefer just goes off the rails immediately. Well, the other great thing about the opening, I'd say 20 minutes is you get the Barney stuff, which is just will be legendary forever because of chloroforming yourself. Yeah. And the tests he's running where he's like sniffing the rag. And then he's like, stop watching.

Trying to basically abduct women at Pike Place Market, but like more for like checking his heart rate. Yeah. And then they get into this like 15 minute sequence with Kiefer Sutherland and Sandra Bullock. That's like a pretty good like couple fight. Yeah. You know, like he's pissed because she doesn't want to go mountain biking in this like forest fire basically. And then they come back down and he's like run out of gas.

And it's like you've passed, you've passed 10 places. Like it's a really, really good setup to this. Yeah. I agree. Let's take a break and then we'll do the categories. Snoring, gasping during sleep, feeling fatigue, Ask your doctor about Zepbound, terseptite. The first and only FDA-approved prescription medicine for moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, OSA, and adults with obesity.

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Why are you getting so upset? Because nobody can see us until they are right on top of us. Why don't you stop? We pass 10 places. They can see us fine, okay, Diane? Oh, God. She's thrown 130 miles an hour. Right.

Her and this movie in speed, I don't know what I would have done to date her for six months at that point in my life. Yeah. But murder was in play. If she was like, I'll date for six months, but you have to kill this guy.

I've been like, where does he live? Are you a big push the gas tank to empty guy? I am. I've never actually run out of gas. but I've taken it really tight. Like where like the, it just says zero and it's flashing. And you're just driving and the person you're driving with is like, there's another place to get gas.

There's another place to get gas. And you're just like, I can get to the next exit. I can do it. I got this. It's a little hero ball, right? Yeah, I know this car. Yeah, you wouldn't do that with your girlfriend. The, uh, her going in and then him kind of waiting by the car.

Yeah. And then that moment where he's like, wait a second, this has been a half hour. And it also has that piece of, you know, 10% did she just ditch me. Yeah, right. Because they've had this bad fight. Yeah. They don't seem super in love. Like, they do obviously have, like, the gesture.

They like the swear gesture that they do to each other. But they don't seem like meant for each other in some ways. Would you've thrown in because we're in Seattle in 93? Should he have been more of like an annoying grunge music guy? Oh, no. I was going to say Sonics guy. Oh, like a big Sean Kemp guy? just always talking about the rain man.

But you shut the fuck up about Gary Payton. If I ever think about Derek McKee one more time. Doing that and subpop, Pitchie Sway's. Yeah, because there was a version where he's a super annoying Seattle guy, and that's why she's kind of like, you know I like this? Yeah, the house that Nancy Travis lives in looks kind of like a singles house.

That would have been funny if she lived in the singles apartment. That's right. I love all that part. I love the part when, when, when, when, I guess that's one giant scene. Yeah, you can say they're opening 25 minutes up to the point where she vanishes. I like when he gets mad at the cop too.

Yeah. And he's like, sir, I'm going to have to ask you to move back. Yeah, I want your face to go back to where it was. Next one is read a crack in the password. I love cracking the password scenes. It always works in movies in real life, never. You could be at your girlfriend's computer for seven. hours.

Yeah, but she's doing like anagrams. Yeah, she's like, she kind of, she solved it and then puts the wig on. It's so Hitchcock into Palma.

She gets dressed up like Diane to go find him. Nancy Travis with the black wig looking great. You really like Sandra Bullock a lot. I was like,

wow, I don't know. Maybe she should try that for a movie. I love the stuff like that starts out with the children thing and then the person

who keeps to journal themselves, that's way more information than you're ever I know. I've moved the command post. Rita's suspicious It's like who would write that? How is that in a journal?

And then she does that, is that what you want? And then we get into the conundrum, which is one of the reasons I love this movie of him saying, It's it. It's not knowing. You know what I do sometimes? I pretend I have a choice.

I have the power either to let her go on living wherever she is happy and never know anything about what happened to her or she can be dead. And I get to find out everything that happened to her. So I let her die. I swear to God, I wish she were dead. I don't know what it is like to not know.

Yeah, what's the, it's like, it's basically he's like, if I could know what happened, I would marry you right now. But if I could have the choice to go back three years, basically. Like he's like, I think I would do that. You know what? Her response probably should have been. Jeff have her stuff out by tomorrow

well she's a real ride or die we can talk about that I have it coming up next one is when when Barnett when all of a sudden it's not over Rita gets pissed she goes to get her stuff in the apartment

decides to leave the answer machine and Barney shows up and it seems like he's going to go after but here's the answer machine message and they do the thing where he goes, it seems like he leaves, but then he's behind the door after she leaves. One of my favorite horror movie tricks. To sit behind the door?

Yeah. I don't think in real life it could be pulled off. I feel like I would always know if somebody is behind the door. No, when you walk into your house, if there's anything amiss, you're kind of like on a sub, like you're aware of it. There's shadows. Like, I've tried to scare my kids so many times with shit like this. And they know every time.

I've never once successfully pulled it up. Even when Ben was like six, you can't. They always know somebody's behind the door around the corner. Well, now you have the problem with Ben would fucking karate chop you in the 4X. It's like 176 now. Jeff shows up as the next one. This is what I have for most rewatchable scene. I've reached 55558767.

Please leave a message after the beat. Hello, Jeff. I'm the man you're looking for. I'm Barney. Hello, Jeff. I'm the man you're looking for. I'm Bonnie. I'm Bonnie.

He shakes the keychain. Kill me if you want to. You have every. right. Then he does the, I'm sorry, were you done? Yeah. After he took like 15 rib kicks, I love when somebody gets their ass kicked. But yet there's some sort of alter motive and like whatever.

But like he should have been in the hospital after that. Yeah. That was like 12 broken ribs. Do you think Kiefer got a little too into the beatdown scene? Oh, I think he went a little lieutenant Kendrick. Yeah. Definitely came out. He's ready to shave his head and start screaming at it.

Tom Cruise. That seems great. It's so weird. Yeah. Everything about it's weird. It's not weirder than Jeff and Barney's drive, though. No, that's next to car ride. I'm not a rapist.

It's really important to me that you understand that. It is? That's what he's also like going to the glove compartment and get this old roast beef sandwich. Yeah. Look, I'm some bad stuff. A rapist? No.

Yeah. Did I steal your girlfriend and bury her alive? I did. I did. So they get pulled over by a cop. They do. It's one of the... If Raj had some points, maybe it's...

That's a really... It's just sort of like... You'll never know. What's the downside of getting this guy in an interrogation room with the police? Yeah, you know who he is? He has the keys. Yeah, he's admitted it.

He sent you a letter with facts that only you would know. Yeah. Feels like we have the murder or what he's just never going to tell. That's when Jeff does this whole speech about how he saved the girl in the water. this movie gets weird at this point.

Saving a person's life may have made me a hero. But did it make me a good person? If I could be truly good, I had to be truly evil. It's like, that's probably not how it works, Barney. But then he goes to the thing. It kind of made sense. Well, it's all about this guy's like is obsessed with free will and whether or not he could just do whatever he wants to do

and also about the balance of the scales of good and evil. Yeah. Well, our Moscow, murders that you and I are obsessed by. Yeah. Have you, that guy, the guy who they think did it. Has he started chirping?

Or is that just on his Reddit post? They said about like his background where he has that thing where he, he can't like feel anything. He's got the white noise. Yeah. And it's just like he. And they've said, they've had this with certain criminals where they can't really feel anything.

So it's almost like they need to do something horrible to feel. Which I think is what Barney's trying to say. Kind of like you have blackjack tables. After my 11th cigarette, 20 a jacket coat. The Barney Abduction Flashback is really good. When we're like, oh, we're actually going to find out what happened here. You know, my boyfriend, he would really appreciate something like that. Where did you get that?

I rep them. They're French. I handle sales for the whole Northwest Territory. Wow. And I'll tell you what. If you promise not to tell my boss the next time you're in Paris, I'll let you have one of the samples for cost. You're in my car.

Really? With a new product. I think it's a good idea to have people seen wearing it around town. 22 bucks. Wow, that's cheap. I told you the markup we get for these retail, you die. You want one? It makes me so fucking mad at Diane.

though where I'm like, why are you going up to guys at soda fountains and being like, cool bracelet? Yeah. I have one in my car. Can you break a five? Cool accent, weird accent guy. Yeah. Yeah, can you take me into the behind the gas station?

What is that? Why does that say tiles? It's teals? It's a French company? I'm out. Can you get in the car? No, I actually can't. I'll stand right here.

Get me one of the bracelets. Yeah, she's a moron. To drink the coffee scene. That's why I don't need a. gun. Your obsession is my weapon. It's like you're my laboratory rat. I provided the materials. You've built a cage. Only now you can't escape what you've constructed. But still, if you want to know what happened to her, you have to go through the same exact things. I feel like Jeff should have figured this out at this point. I think he has figured it out. That's the thing. So he just wants to die?

No, I think he's like, even in dying or even in whatever happens next, I'm going to know. And the ultimate thing is like, I don't care if I die. Love being an unpublished author, whatever it is. There's dreams or ambitions where he's like, the thing I have to do in my life is find out what happened to this woman, even if it means I die. So is this guy more or less pathetic than the guy from Sideways? I think he might be a little bit more. We should do an unpublished author month instead of one-word movie month. The day before yesterday by Miles versus Un-Based.

entitled by Jeff Harriman. Jeff, look at your life, you have nothing. Who is Jeff Harriman if he's not the guy looking for Diane? Good points. Jeff, look at your life. You have nothing. No job.

No money. No love. No peace of mind. It's been three years you've put yourself through this hell. At what point you finally say, I'm not going to wake up tomorrow and miraculous to be over this. that's when Jeff Harriman though I think is got like a classic strength and conditioning coach name and that's where he should have gone after this is just like the Tennessee Hawks University of Washington D-backs coach just coaching hand technique if somebody had taken Liz Kelly three years ago and Craig was just like all he was doing was putting up flyers around the office and doing talk shows at what point would we have been like she's not coming back like two years in so is he still recording the

the rewatchables. He's still working for us. When you get to the end of like, you know, a podcast about my best friend's wedding, you're like, Craig, any thoughts? And you're like, I'm still looking for lids. She was right there. She was going to get two sodas. All right, Craig, thanks a lot. Like at one point...

Next time on the rewatchables. Blake, help me. Two years, one month, two days. Oh, God. At what point are you just a lunatic? That's one of the things with this movie. He's a lunatic when he walks into the diner and he looks like Kiefer Sutherland from Lost Boys.

He's full crazy at that point. Yeah. Like, who's crazier? Him or Barney? It's like a fucking toss-up. So he says, Barney says, that's why I don't need a gun.

Your obsession is my weapon. Which is one of the great, that's best quote, obviously, one of the great quotes of all time. Yeah. I told my buddy Jeff that we were doing this movie

and he just texted me back that my obsession was his weapon. I mean, it's just like, that's classic Belichick. Just take away the one guy. He takes away the team's, the other team's best web,

Your obsession is my weapon. I know you want to throw it to Tyree Kill. He double team Kelsey. Next we watchable scene. I just wrote down, Jeff wakes up in a coffin. Yeah. One of my biggest fears. In the movie theater,

this was terrifying. There's this, there's Kill Bill, there's buried the Ryan Reynolds movie. It's just like being buried alive. It's like my biggest fear. Yeah. I have nothing to add. I think I'd rather honestly take my chances with a shark.

Yeah, you could at least get a couple punches in. Right. And you'd have a story to tell. You're like, yeah. I had this in... I had this in picking nits, but if you're going to die in the coffin, if you're Jeff, don't you use the lighter and set the coffin on fire and try to kick your way out? Or would you just die, maybe with smoke inhalation? You'd die of smoke inhalation. But you're going to die anyway. I would just be kicking as hard as I could probably.

Well, I would try and do the bride from Killville, too, man. Yeah. Just punch through it. You wouldn't try to set the top of it on fire? You just die immediately. Presumably he's under six feet of dirt, so I don't really know you just incinerate yourself. But couldn't you light one part to loosen it up and then kick it?

I don't think you have a lot of flexibility there. Yeah. I'm glad you thought this through, though. I did. And I eventually arrived at like I'd probably try to set the coffin on fire and then I would have burned it to be like, why did I do that? This is also a really good advertising

for smoking, though. Imagine being buried alive without a lighter. Right. At least he could see it. What are you going to do with your iPhone flashlight? You know? I'm buried. This thing isn't going to light anything on fire. The last two is when Rita flips it on Barney. I like what she says, that's right, shithead.

I like what shithead is used in movies like this. And then the shovel in the face ending was pretty good. My favorite is the entire stretch from Barney shows up to Jeff beats the shit out of them, to they go to your obsession is my weapon, drink the car. coffee. Yeah. The coffin. I can't even pick a favorite.

That's such a good 20 minutes. I think my favorite, most rewatchable is Jeff at the gas station when he's realizing she's gone. It's like legitimately terrifying. What's age the best? Mentioned how they set up Barney's craziness. I love that. I love that.

We only know her name is Diane, but then they kind of stealth put in there. Her name's Diane Shaver. Okay. Which is an anagram for She Vanished. Oh. What are the ads that Jeff loved anagrams? and his girlfriend's name was she banished by scrambling it.

I like when Rita finally is like, fuck this, I'm out of here. And he goes, go ahead, run like a coward. At least Diane was taken by force. So pathetic. Jeff was a loser. I like that the seminal, terrible tragedy event that triggers somebody's cigarette smoking. Oh, my God, dude. One of my favorite movie devices?

Keith was lighting up a dart the second Diane disappears. Yeah. It's like, get in there. Kiefer. What do you got to live for now? The name Barney, just a great villain name. Oh, it's amazing.

Barney Cousins? Barney Cousins. Yeah. Sounds like he would be like the third string center of the Seattle Supersonics. I like being here with Sandra Bullock in this, like, right before she becomes a massive star and speed stage.

It's fun when you get to see what's the thing that this person has that then the rest of the world would realize. And Kiefer too. Yeah. Because this is like he's basically like loser Jack Bauer in this, but he has something. Then Nancy Travis, who you and I, we haven't done internal affairs

yet. We're saving that for a very special occasion. She's throwing one-on-one in that movie. Nice little run and then kind of just drifts into sitcom kind of things. But she was kind of in the mix there for a couple years. Oh, for sure. I was liked her. Yeah. She could have,

I don't know where she went wrong. I guess like this would have been, she needed like this movie to be a hit or she needed to be the wife and a bigger movie like blown away something like that she's never had the movie right what else age the best for you I mean you already covered your obsession as my

weapon yeah I think also when Nancy Travis is like no secrets Jeff in the heart or on the lips it's just like a weird thing the Kid Cuddy Pursuit a Happiness award for best Nino drop I didn't there's really only Copacabana plays in this when they're getting hammered happen

Big Cahooner Burger Award for best use of food and drink I mean, fucking coffee. Yeah, black coffee all the time. Yeah. Just in that mug just, just searing away at 140 degrees. What'd you have for the Den of Thieves Benihana Award for scene stealing location?

I like when people have, like, two completely rattled, obsessed people have a meltdown in a public place. So when they are at the, like, boat house, when Barney's like, meet me at the boat house.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And then, like, he's just, like, jamming black coffee and smoking sakes. And there are, everybody's just like, what's up with this guy? I had the gas station. I thought they picked a great gas station.

I have some info on it when we'd do later. Would you have for most cinematic shot, the Great Shack Order Award? I think waking up in the coffin. Yeah. In the later. Yeah. The Butch's girlfriend award for Weeklink of the film.

It's interesting. So I have, Rita goes, she cracks the code, she drives to Jeff is allegedly in the, what do you say? The Army Reserves? Army Reserves.

Yeah. She finds the commitment. Not really explained. He just goes and buys like a uniform and I guess has told Rita like, oh, by the way, one weekend a month, I have to go on training detail. And she's like, sounds good. There's 18 different reasons she should have broken up to him. That's probably in the top four. You went and bought a fake army reserve thing?

Are we not using the Army Reserves as an excuse enough? You mean, you should. Hey. Honey, I know. I got to go to Fort Bragg this weekend. They just need me down there. And then it's just like, all over Instagram is you at MGM Grand being like, I got a fucking three-game parlay going.

So she goes there, finds the command post. The command post. And then he's like, I love you. I don't. And then he's like, I saw the book. I saw it like he has all this stuff about I'm still in love with Rita. I look everywhere I look. And then he just kind of sits down in the bed.

He's like, wow, not only am I a loser. I've been caught. But you've read untitled my novel. You've written my terrible novel She's out I know she's like I'm a fighter I don't know how to quit

It's like no you're probably out Nobody's gonna fight this hard For this fucking loser You've got to be able to do better Rita That's my weak link My uh I just don't see her sticking around For one more minute after this

My week length is Rita's permissloshed friend From the diner Who's just always hanging out with her And it's like Oh did your uh Your boyfriend He got super obsessed with his vanished

girlfriend, let's just go get, let's go get tanked in the middle of the day and leave funny voicemail messages. That's true. That should have been the extra 20 minutes at the end. It's just Barty then goes after her. She's too drunk to even capture. What's age the worst? Hackysack?

Yeah. Always weird to watch anybody playing hacky sack now in a movie. Answer machine messages is plot devices. Yeah. That's long gone. This could have been a nip picking nits, I'm going to put it here. First of all, why does Reid

have that job? The diner job? She's working in a diner. Yeah, pulling double shifts and like twin peaks. She's like, you know, really seems like she has her shit together. She's super attractive. And she's just like working in this weird diner in the middle of the night, dating guys like Jeff.

Like, what happened to her? Well, the other question is what happens in the intervening year that they get their shit together enough to like have like a pretty decent apartment with a view of the space needle. Yeah. What's she like? Good news. I picked up the lunch shift on Mondays.

I think we can afford that three-bedroom now. And we never see her work again, by the way. She has no other, there's no other point where she's never like, I got to go to work. Yeah. Because she's pretty impressive, right? She's smart. Yeah. She's a problem solver.

She's resilient. She's tough. She's good at puzzles. She couldn't have worked on like the supersonics, like in the ticket office. I love that we only have the concept. two jobs in Seattle. You can either work for the Sonics or sub-up or do double shifts in a diner.

Yeah, those are my what's age the worst. Other than the fact that the reviews of this movie is aged the worst. And then, yeah, that's really it. That's all I have, because I love this movie. I think Jeff's defensive driving and general emergency services awareness is just for shit.

Jeff just being like, I guess we're just stuck in this dark tunnel. Yeah, let's stay in the dark tunnel. And I personally just think there's just no way you're walking off without her in the tunnel. Like when he's just like, come on, Diane, just forget the flashlight. And he just like walks off to go get gas. He must have been sitting there for like two hours. What was good about dating Jeff Harriman?

Nothing. He's like, he's all been out of shape because he can't go mountain biking through like an abandoned lumber yard on Mount St. Helens. He's a fucking loser who didn't even know to fill his car with gas. And then he loses her at the gas station. What else is he? The next three years looking for it's like I like when Nancy Travis like maybe she didn't want to be found

Yeah and then So his job How did he make money for the three years? So was he a journalist? Because I was going to ask if you thought If you came across a guy like Jeff Is that a potential blogger for you? No

I was thinking for a one stage the worst Jeff I read some of your stuff You should work for page two We're looking for people like you're fucking weirdos obsessed with somebody who's disappeared I think if Jeff exists now He's unquestionably has a podcast called Vanish Oh he's just like he's on Reddit

19 hours a day I think I think 22, 23 is way better for Jeff Harriman Oh yeah and also because you have so much more cameras So many more cameras you can track people's phones Oh yeah they would have found her right away Yeah that's another what's age or worse Because a gas station is not an undocumented like area Yeah good point

I have a I guess this is what's what's I don't know if it's how, I guess it's the worst. We got Craig here, he was a fissionado on the subject. But just Diane being like, can I get you an ice cold beer while we're driving? That's true. You don't really see that very much anymore. The guy in the passenger seats just crushing, crushing his throes while he's driving. I love it.

But that really went out of vogue. Ron Burgundy Flew to Word for Best Time for a P-break. Oh, I got this. I had the book podcast. publisher pitching Jeff on the... That's awesome. Oh, you liked it? I just like, that's...

He's such a random character. Yeah, it's like, why is it? What's going on here? I have Nancy Travis trying to get the neighbor to tell the story of Jeff kicking Barty's ass, and she's just like, you're waking Elvis. And I would be like a little bit more agitated about that.

I had the crazy neighbor for the Ruffalo Hannah Rubenick Partridge your acting word. Nothing to tell, Miss Carmichael. Your boyfriend took to wampen on that man's head. Then got a nice. the car with him and drove off. Oh, God.

Okay, Miss Carmichael, what else? Do you remember anything else? Yes, come to think of it, I do. Something odd. What? In the middle of everything, that little green lepricon popped off my lucky charms box

and started dancing around. Magically delicious. magically It's good It's hard to give it to anybody But bridges But yeah This person should be

In an insane asylum She's just living across the hall Stalk into the lucky charms guy Like There's crazy neighbor And then there's like This person's in an alternate universe Was there a better title

For this movie? I don't think so Your obsession was my weapon That'd be pretty good SAS hottest take a word. I'm okay with remaking foreign movies that I would never watch.

This is a good one. This is a good one. I had a hard time finding an S-A-S-Hodest take for me, but this... So let's explore this a little bit. Yeah, because there's some... You know, like when they did Vanilla Sky, I was like, you know what?

That other movie, I forget the name of it, that Vanilla Sky was based off of. What was it? Tell me... I can't remember the name of it. But I really like... that movie. And I didn't think that needed... Open your eyes. Open your eyes. Open your eyes

was really good. Yeah. And I didn't think they needed to do an American version of it. You should just go see that one. This one, it's like, it's a 1988. It's like, you know, nobody was going to go to the theater and see a Danish horror movie in 1988. I think the Danish one actually did pretty well in Art House movie theaters and became like a pretty

revered movie, but I don't really have like a huge problem with it. I guess it's just more like, what are you bringing to it? Yeah. Like, bring something. And they obviously brought a new ending. I feel like they brought a lot. They brought a lot of joy last 30 years. They brought an obsession and a weapon.

Do you have a hottest take or we keep going? Can you keep going? Casting what ifs couldn't find any. Yeah, I couldn't find any either. Yeah, I looked. Not a lot of literature about this movie. You'd be surprised there weren't any like oral history. No, there has, there was like.

Mental Floss 20th anniversary pieces. A scant amount of scholarship about the, the 1990s. 3 version of this movie. The Wikipedia was basically just a plot summary and then just critics savaging. Yeah. I found it on half-ass internet research

I found an IMD message board thread where it's just guys being like what would you do if you were buried alive? So I'm not sure if that's something that you've participated in. The best that guy word, the crazy neighbor we mentioned, the Lucky Charms ladies,

played by Lynn Hamilton. Fred Sanford's girlfriend on Sanford's Yeah, I was like, where do I know her? And then I was like, oh, it was Sanford-in-son. Dionne Waiter's a word. We can either give it to Sandra Bullock or Sandra Bullock. She's fucking thrown smoke. Three scenes.

Great job by her. Recasting couch. Would you switch Nancy Travis and Sandra Bullock? I don't know that Sandra Bullock has the same charms if she's being driven crazy. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think that there's something about... She's better as the idea that you really miss.

And that Nancy Travis actually does a really good. job of being like, man, life hasn't really worked out for me. I thought I bet right on this guy and that he was pulling it together. After three years, it seemed like he was finally over this. It turns out a guy you made in the middle of the night at the diner. Yeah. Who looks like a vampire? He's been looking for the same girl for three years. Maybe that was a bad choice. Half-ass internet research. They filmed this all around Seattle. The cabin was in Monroe, Washington in the setting for the gas station was the mountainside shell station

at North Bend, Washington. Yeah. We mentioned the director stuff. Jeff Bridges, the fake arm cast thing, that was a Ted Bundy move. Bundy. He was on that in the 70s for a while. Stanley Kubrick

thought the original 1988 vanishing was the most terrifying film he had ever seen. Including the Shining. Including the Shining. What do you think of the 93 version? Didn't find any until on that. That's all I have for half-ass. I have one.

Well, actually, this is full-assed, I guess. But the whole, you can't report a missing person after 24 hours, that's not real. Like, you can do it within 24 hours? You can report a person missing immediately. But how come in every single movie or television show the cops, like, I can't really do anything about it? I texted my dad. He was a police officer. He was like, it's a complete myth.

You take the report immediately. You can take the report. Do they start, like, sending out APBs and stuff like that? Yeah, he's like the 24-hour thing is just a movie myth, Phil. Let's do it right now. Call and tell them Sean Fentisiesiesies. they just be like he's at Alamo draft house actually yeah

Apix Mountain it's a no Wait did you have anything else on the gas station or were you just like the gas station is just that's where it is North Bend Why do you want more gas station? Well I just think it's worth noting that like they had like wait service at that gas station did you see like there's people walking around with trays

like bringing them to tables and stuff like that we used to really like kick ass in this country that should be a what's age the worst is what What happened to those awesome gas stations? You're right. People used to hang out. In high school, we used to, like, go to the AMP.

Yeah. Get a milkshake and sit there. Get a case of beer. Have a hot dog. Hang out for a little while, you know? Should gas stations come back? It's just like a hottest take. Gas stations should be the new place to hang out.

Apex Mountain. Bridges, Kiefer, Nancy Travis, and Sandra Bullock. No. Nancy Travis, you could make a case like early 90s because this is in the soy married and axe murder. I still think it's internal affairs. but yeah. I was going to say

so I married an X-Wruder. But I guess that was the same time right around here. So we're in Apex Mountain range for her. Sure. Obviously not Apex Mountain for George Sleuser. Definitely not.

Not for the Infinity bracelet. Characters named Barney, I have Barney cousins finishing at least third. What about characters with the last named Cousins? Maybe a little higher. Coffee, I think,

not Apex Mountain. Full service, awesome. gas stations, maybe this was Apex Mountain for the big, nice, clean, spacious. In real life, like, there's shit in the bathroom. Oh, God. And it's just, yeah, it's grizzly. That's it. Not a lot of Apex

mountains. You could say Seattle. We could add this to Seattle's Apex Mountain. Sure. Because it's around singles. Say anything. It's a great four-year run. Yeah. Best racehorse name. Probably Infinity bracelet. How about the vanishing? Oh, that's good. He's vanishing.

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So, why doesn't Jeff think Diane ditched him? Not on the table for him? Well, this gets into the other nitpick is like, is Diane an orphan? The parents are the brother and the sister or nobody is ever like, I'm in on this search too

and what's up with you, Jeff? Diane's dad's in town again. Yeah. Friends? Like nothing? Yeah. Diane must have a lot of friends. She was cool.

And I guess like it would have been... All our friends are trying to get her to break up with Jeff. Totally obvious that Diane never uses a credit card or whatever. Like there's no trace of Diane. So she is clearly gone. So why is Jeff like a laughing stock? You know what I mean when it comes to this? Maybe we just assume that's all happened because it's been three years and everybody else gave up.

I suppose so, but like he's still going on television. You know, also he's still getting booked on TV shows to talk about this. Yeah, seriously. What TV shows are booking a... Local TV. was amazing back then. Rita's job stuff.

So is she still a waitress? Is she working at that bar? She goes to it with her friend? I don't know. We just don't know. We have no idea how she makes money. Wouldn't if you're Jeff, you beat up Barney,

you're just calling the police, right? Kick the shit out of him. Immediately call the police. Yeah. Like, is Barney's implication that like there's nothing to connect him to the crime?

So like if the police came, they'd be like, we have nothing to hold him on. And then he goes off he never finds out about Diane again. But, like, parties using his real name. Jeff Britch's, I mean, Jeff Harriman could just be like, I'm going to go to your school every day and harass you

and tell all your students that you abduct women and bury them. How about that? Would seem like a good strategy. Can't that better strategy than just hop it in the car and then drinking some mystery coffee and ending up in a coffin. Rita is getting bombed with her friend at the bar. Within five minutes, she's sober and going to the police station and cracking stuff.

What's up with the daughter in this movie? What's up with the wife? What's up with his family? Yeah. Why does the daughter want her dad to cheat on her mom so badly? It's also a teenage girl. She would be like, dad's so fucking weird all the time. She'd be like, your creep zone, dad.

Like, what's going on with you? Yeah, she would be in her room listening to Soundgarden and her friend would come over with a nose earring and like pink hair. And she'd be like, my dad's so fucking weird. Listen to what happened today. Listen to his accent. He's not touched. He's from Seattle.

This is a big one for me. And I've seen this movie way too many times. Okay. So he puts this stuff over. Jeff drinks the coffee. How long do we think Jeff's out for at that point? Maybe an hour or not.

No, because it's like he drinks the coffee. Is that supposed to be the same amount of chloroform that Jeff Bridges has in the beginning of it? Or is it like Rehypno? No, it's the chloroform. He's been experimenting with it. So he knows how long. He's got to drive him from the gas station to his cabin.

That's a half hour. And bury him, but presumably already has a grave dog. If he has a grave dog, what if somebody comes over? It's like, hey, what's that? Why do you have a half-finished grave in the backyard? What's going on, Dad? That's weird. So he's got to put Barney in the—

he's got to put Jeff in the grave somehow. It's got to carry him from his car, get him in the grave. Then he's got to, like, hammer it down, shovel it. This is like a three-hour project. He bangs it out in, like, 45 minutes? And he's like, got weird crippled Barney guy. There was no streaming TV at a lot of time to kill, you know? What are the nip picks that you have?

Just for me, and I guess I'd be curious, Craig, if your dad could weigh in on this too. But like in every movie where there's a kidnapping and the guy's like reporting the vanishing that's taking place, the first question the cop asks is like, have you guys been fighting recently? And if it's me, I'm just going to be like, nope. I was throwing a perfect game. Like, honestly, I had never. We've never been more love. So let's skip to the part where you start looking.

Like rather than debate whether or not I should or shouldn't have gotten gas or whatever. But he's like, he tells him, he's like, oh yeah, well, it wasn't a fight. It was really more of a thing. And the cops like... You know, that's a possible Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson.

Yeah, if a cop asks you if you've fought with their recently vanished spouse. Right. Just say no. I just wonder if it's boy who cried wolf. Like, they've gotten that so many times my girlfriend's missing and then it turns out they had a fight that that's now what they ask.

Yeah, but like, why is it's not incumbent on you to tell the truth. It's like, oh, yeah, she was killing me because I really wanted to go mountain biking earlier and she didn't. Yeah. Sequel, prequel, prestige TV, all black cast are untouchable. I'd like to talk out a couple of these. All black cast, sign me up. I mean, they've been doing the all black cast thing. Where's Peacock on

this? Well, Omar Epps and there's this whole genre where they're just remaking some of these. I watch all of them. Prequel, a Barney prequel, like, you can at least get my attention. We got it. Yeah, we could go a little deeper. I would watch a Jeff and Diane get together prequel, though. Prestige TV is where this gets really fun. Well, it is, it is prestige TV.

This is what it should have been, right? This is like the killing, yeah, Marrivi's Town. Like the whole first episode would just be the two of them, right? Yeah. And then she disappears at the end. Second episode, we go backwards to Barney and China. Well, what they would probably also do if it was a prestige TV show is they would not give up Barney in the first.

Barney is looming. You don't have the reveal that it's Barney did it. It's like how Fleischman you don't realize to like episode six that the guy was basically Satan. Yeah. It was a slow reveal.

Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trao, Catherine Hahn, Steve Bouchemy, Sam Jackson, J.T. Walsher, Philip Baker Hall. Well, it's like, where there's so many choices. God damn, Jeff.

I didn't know your obsession. was my weapon? Pretty fucking easy kidnapping. I got to tell you. Your obsession took over. But also, what if Wayne Jenkins was the cop? Excuse me, sir. You and your girlfriend getting a little fire earlier on?

Yeah, maybe that explains her sudden disappearance. They should just digitally impose. You go to jail long fucking time, big man. Oh, that ain't a fucking brick. just one Oscar who gets it, Bridges. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. That's by default.

Probably in answerable questions. I got one here for you. Is this movie better or worse if Kiefer is playing Lieutenant Kendrick having been discharged from the Marines? Oh, yeah. And now he's living in Seattle trying to get his life back together. Working out a novel. This is great. Would you rather have this part of the A Few Good Men Extended Universe or the Singles Extended Universe?

singles would be pretty good. Yeah, I think having Cliff wandering around outside while fucking Jeff is the magic charms lady. It's just like, oh man, I was listening to super unknown too loud. I couldn't hear her. I mentioned is this movie an allegory for the key for Julia aborted wedding? Very possible. This is going to get dark for a second.

I apologize. Is it possible he was molesting the daughter? Is that inferred? Because at one point, when Nancy Travis picks up the daughter and they're talking, she's like, are you having an affair and blah, blah? And then she goes, Daddy says romance has to be secret. Well, he says that about

Wuthering Heights in the beginning. Okay. Yeah. I mean, he's a fucking creep. Yeah. But I don't think I don't think he's doing anything with Denise. Okay. Good. Good. What do you have for an answerable? Uh, most unpredictable bounce back season. Gino Smith 22, 23, or Jeff Harriman

93 to 94 where Jeff it's like three years later and Jeff is just like I'm wearing a funny hat and I'm just joking around with Rita we got this great place

in Seattle but that's not what was going on no I know I mean there's a lot of projecting also like does Barney ever get out of like wandering around

Pike Place and like asking women where the post offices yeah at what point are the cops kind of intervening with Barney yeah it's like this weird guy

wandering around and just asking where the post office is constantly. Yeah, it's a good one. Best double feature choice with this movie. You could do the original. Oh, that's interesting. That's a tough four hours, though.

I was thinking jagged edge because you get another thriller, but Jeff Bridges. Oh, I actually had another handsome normal Jeopard's question. Which are unanswerable. How did Jeff and Rita explain Barney's death? Jeff hits him with a shovel

and then the next scene is like there's just like selling the book and being like, we don't drink coffee anymore. You know, it's what... I meant to put that in what stage the worst. That was this weird, late 80s, early 90s... Cut, like a new ending of that movie on and it's almost parody of itself

to see them be like, oh, no coffee for us! Well, it's a little like misery, right? But wouldn't Barney's kid be like, where's my dad? wouldn't there be an investigation to where this professor went? There's a lot of questions about And is Diane's fate revealed? Yeah, they're exhuming Diane's

skeleton. Yeah. Barney's daughter and wife are now like, oh my God, we lived with a fucking murder. I never would have guessed. Yeah, there's another 20 minutes that easily could have been in this movie of like, oh man, it all makes sense now. Dad, we're going to get.

That time, oh, that time he put the coffin in the dirt and the back. when dad was just like, I'm moving out to go work on a cabin for no reason. Oh, I had another in answerable question. How did Jeff's book do? I think it, well, Jeff's book with Rita. So now they're co-writing.

Well, what's it say? That's what I'm saying. Is it about how they killed this guy and then got away with it? Or is it about how like, yeah. It's about our experience searching for Diane and we found love. I think it's more like a People magazine type of book. It seems like a National Enquirer kind of thing. What do you think Rita brought to the table

as a 12 to 5 diner waitress? I think it's just like a condition of her like staying with him is like, guess what? We're doing this together now. No more passwords on your computer. I had in the Indian Red Zawantane Award for what happened the next day. I just wrote down,

tough beat for Barney's family. The cabin's probably not reselling that thing. No, probably not. Nobody's buying the cabin where Diane was rotting in a coffin. Did nobody notice like the hump, if you're in somebody's backyard and there's a hump where it seems like

it's the exact length of the body. Terrible job of digging the grave. I know. I guess it was like there's not really anybody around. That's also like that whole weird scene in the beginning where he asks the guy in the boat like, did you hear a child scream last night? Yeah. I don't know why I'm doing as Irish, but it is how it's going on. I like that.

It was like, bitch, he's shared for a second. That's the best part of the movie. Do you hear those kids screams? No. He's like, uh, no. Perfect Good. Carry on. What piece of memorabilia would you want from this movie?

The thermos. I had the thermos. The infinity bracelet would be a little bit. I also really like Jeff's Jeep, the Red Cherokee. Coach Finstock Award. Best Life Lesson. Don't drink the coffee.

Just don't. Do you think that Barney's talents as a communicator were wasted as a professor like do you think he would have been a better analyst for like NFL analyst? Like a halftime guy? Yeah. Oh, Barney.

I mean, property's out there dealing. He's just like, Kyle Shanahan's obsession is my weapon. Who do you have for one in the movie? Bridges. Me too. Yeah. All right. Now it's time for producer Craig, who I'm guessing I'd never seen this movie.

No. I started watching the wrong I had to text you. Yeah, there's a Gerard Butler movie in 2018 called The Vanishing Game. Yeah, we should have put that in what's age the worst. I hate when they take titles from... I'll tell you what's age the fucking worst. It's just stupid how hard it is to find movies right now. Yeah, we have 40 fucking streaming things.

And so few of them have, like, complete libraries, and now it's just like your... I'm subscribed to like every streaming service and I pretty much have to rent it every movie. We do. Yeah. Yeah. It's terrible. There's this app. I remember if I mentioned it called Just Watch.

Yeah, it's free. Yeah, and you can find And even just watch was like, I don't know where this fucking movie is. Which vanishing? It's like the sure thing was like that too. So it's just like nowhere. It's like just go look on YouTube. So what do you think?

Am I crazy that I think Jeff Bridges is like really good? You're not. I mean, it's Jeff Bridges. I know. Ignorance is bliss. I had no idea about the Dutch version and I love this movie. Did you? Good.

Yeah, I had no idea. I thought it was great. The premise is perfect. It's so good. I don't know. It's actually like pretty complex. I tried to like explain. Liz was like, so what was the,

about. And it took me like 10 minutes to kind of get through it because I was like, oh, wait, no, then there's this part. Well, it turns into like three different moves. Yeah. But the first version of it, it's like, I still remember when Premier Magazine was writing about like when you, and I read about this. And when you can do like in a sentence, like a couple stop at a gas station and she inexplicably disappears throwing his life into turmoil is like, cool. Let's see this. Yeah. It really works. Also, Sandra Bullock. Really funny. Lights out.

Yeah. Really great. Same thing for speed. It's awesome. And you're like when they have the shot, and this would be another great shot, Gordo, is the shot in the bathroom when you realize Nancy Travis is putting on her clothes. You're like, oh, things are about to get weird. Where did she get the wig, though? Could this movie have gotten weird or would have been a good unanswerable question? Also, just like finding out something via an answering machine.

Like her on the phone, hearing it, hearing him go, hello, Jeff, it's me. And she's like, oh, shit. Yeah. Great move. Another good turn the weird dial up a little bit would be if Barney's wife was in. in on this. And like kind of was like oh, this is cool. Oh, she was like the mastermind? Like let's kidnap women. That'll be like

keep spicing our own marriage. There's no way he's still married. There's just no way she's hanging around. Barney's wife. Huge cock apparently. Hung like a fucking bear. I'm glad you liked this though because I was like I love this movie. Well, because everyone, we've done

some, some, this is definitely one for us. Yeah. But like when we did 8mm, like I can see the case for people going 8mm. man. 8mm is dark, but it's actually a pretty coherent movie.

This movie is pretty out there. This movie's fucking insane. Brian Johnson is like bringing back the like mystery, like the Columbo doing glass onion. Somebody just needs to like start remaking these movies

with the star. But this is what I'm saying. It's like when even a movie like the rental like that came out a couple years ago gets marketed more as like a horror rather than like five kids go to an Airbnb

where they get terrorized by somebody. Like it's it's more of like a horror movie that it is like a from hell thriller which was like basically all we watched in the early 90s. Yeah,

we had the diehard in a blank. We had the from hell. Yeah, roommate from hell, X from hell. I don't know where this is, but this was definitely

also in the universe. It's just, it's in that Cape Fear kind of like, oh my God, like, and you can't, it's this thing that the whole thing with Cape Fear

is that like they can't get rid of Lewis, right? Yeah. Yeah. Fucking Barney, man. Like,

I know that you, like, the horror genre is easier to sell because you don't need stars, like the horror genre itself is like the star. Yeah. But I don't know.

If you cast, like you said, I think if you did Chris Evans and Florence Pugh and whoever else. Well, the one, you know what? A good sign of this is how well the menu did. Yeah. The menu is kind of more, it's more about like class stuff or whatever,

but it's like the restaurant from hell, essentially. Yeah. It would seem like it would make sense to do it as a prestige TV where every season somebody vanishes, which I guess is a little like what the missing, what was that show,

The Missing? The missing did that. But way more commercial like this. It's like, oh, there's a murder. I feel like that, I don't want to sit here for eight episodes. I just want to watch it an hour 45. Well, I mean, the hour 45, I've been kind of watching like this with a bunch of the rewatchables, especially the 93 ones.

And you can just tell, like, with the hour 45s, you're like, this is actually like the perfect length for a movie. Yeah, you're right. Or maybe that's the series as each episode. It's like Black Mirror. Yeah. Somebody vanishes. This was produced by Craig Coralbeck and Barney.

His obsession was our weapon. Should we go get some roast beef sandwiches? Let's go get some roast beef. And we'll see you in the rewatchables next time.