The Rewatchables - ‘This Is the End’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck

Episode Date: June 27, 2023

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck specifically bought a Milky Way to eat after rewatching the 2013 comedy ‘This Is the End,’ starring Seth Rogen, Jay Baruchel, James Franco, Jonah Hill, Danny McBride, and Craig Robinson. Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And I probably could have gone for four. Super rewatchable. You can just crank right through it. It's on Netflix right now. What is it about this movie? Because I don't feel like it was a slow burn. It was funny. But I think it's funnier 10 years later, mainly because hanging out with all these people.

And, you know, some of them have had some misfire or some personal stuff. But a lot of these people are just in their primes. I think that's why it's more rewatchable now is because it ended after this. I mean, there was neighbors, which came a year later with Seth Rogen. But this was like the end to the group of those guys. Both of their movies were kind of all of them together Yeah It was like two of them or three of them or four of them all in the same movie

And because it kind of never happened again after this There was the interview But I think that's why it's more rewatchable now It's because you go back and you're like man This was the last time we got to see Kind of this like stoner era together still We always go through these people's IMDBs And their filmographies

Usually it's like Cruz and Hanks And Harrison Ford and Denzel Washington It feels like such a long time ago Like a far away But like I think that the 08 basically to 15, like up to Steve Jobs, run for Rogan is actually sneaky. Like, it stands up against some of those movies.

I'd go backwards. I'd start at like, what was 40-year-old virgin? That was 2005? Yeah. It's like a 10-year run. Yeah. So, like, I mean, but like this was, this was like you said. Like, it's sort of the end or the end-ish of one of these great runs that we always love to talk about on the pod.

And no one's replaced them. There's no, like, because before them, it was like the feral crew. And there's no group now that has replaced. them making movies together. One thing I loved, and it was came up in the research, and I was surprised I hadn't thought of it myself because one of my favorite shows ever was Larry Sanders. And Evan Goldberg, who was the guy who directed this with Rogan, he said the whole point of this movie, they're just trying to rip off little bits of Charlie Kaufman.

And then Seth and I always loved the Larry Sanders show. This has so many Larry Sanders moments where it's like they're celebrities, but they're playing themselves, but they're playing like exaggerated or sticky versions of themselves. then there's like some underhanded stuff and some insulting and you're like, wait, was that real? How close did that get? And there's a couple moments like when a database Brad says to Jonah like, Jonah, you fucking cunt. And you can see Jonah just like, he like freezes for a second or he makes fun of his earring

that other time and both times. You're like, wait, is Jonah Hill mad right now? Yeah. And it just dips into that over and over and over again. And they say Franco and Rogan or I'm sorry, Goldberg and Rogan, we're, I'm sorry, Goldberg and Rogan were a couple times like, hey guys, we're all friends. Like, this is going too hard. But I think that they were using this movie to work some shit out, right?

Oh, there's no question. Like, there's all the sorts of stuff about Jay and Jonah not. Did you know that stuff? No, I didn't know that was real. But that's like you, Sean and Chris at the rewatchful, right? You guys kind of work it out on it. I know. On camera.

Sean and Chris have such a dark history. Yeah, I didn't realize Jay and Seth were they were Canadian buddies, which I knew that part. Yeah. But then Jay and Jonah Hill just didn't get along. And we'll go into some of the research on it later. but they were just like, let's tap into this. And Jay was like, yeah, I still didn't like him as we're filming the movie. And I can never tell what Jonah was real and not real,

because he loves to be that Hollywood dushy thing as a gimmick, but it also seems partly who he is. Yeah, I think the whole, like, also Seth Rogen's career kind of taken off, and it didn't really happen for Baruchel. No. And Barichel didn't really like L.A. as much. Like, I think based on what I was watching, like, all of that is real. Oh, yeah, they threw at least, like, I would say, 50% of the stuff in here.

is actual real-life shit. It's such a bold move writing that script. Not the Michael Serapert. And sending it to everybody. I read that Franco was like, you guys don't actually think I'm like this, right? Right. I mean, like,

everything is just turned up. Like, at this point, McBride has like a family. But like, yeah, kid. I think that that's definitely the public's perception of Danny McBride

coming out of like foot fist and eastbound or whatever, or like, or whatever this is in his... He's like, basically I've become the eastbound guy. Yeah, right. And there's like,

oh, yeah, what if Kenny Powers was just like at our house, you know? I mean, And the great thing about this movie, one of the reasons it's so rewatchable is you kind of could have watched another two hours of it. Easily. Like if there was like an extra hour on YouTube of just them improvising, which there is.

If the party was like, can we just stay at the party for another 20 minutes? I just want to like that Jason Siegel, Kevin Hart part. Oh my God. And it's like 30 seconds. It's so good. It's like, yeah, because you ate the cake. And it's like, that's why you guys are number one. Yeah, I could have done like 20 more of those.

I went back to the decade, 2011, Bridesmaids was the big comedy that year, but we also had Hangover 2 and horrible bosses and bad teacher and all those movies did well. 2012, Ted was a phenomenon practically, 21 Jump Street, and then Project X, which has been on this. First half of 2013, we have Hangover 3, this is the end, and the heat, which is funny.

The Muslim McCarthy comes out like three weeks later, and then a little later that year Werther Miller's and Anchorman 2 and Ancerman 2 goes for it whether you think it works or not they're throwing everything against the kitchen sink I gotta go back to that movie It's a pretty fearless movie

but almost like too crazy and they almost couldn't figure out what to keep in the movie it's a little incoherent and then Neighbors is May 9th 2014 and that's the end Yeah well there's a dip As we covered in the neighbors pot There's a self-fulfilling prophecy with a lot of these movies

which so many of the Apatown movies are about, like, at the end of it, the guy realizes he has to grow up. Yeah. And then they grew up. And Neighbors is kind of like the last gasp of that where it's like these people who have a kid who like haven't partied in a while,

but like they have one last big blast. And then at the end, they realize like they need to chill out, you know? And that's kind of these movies in general. For like eight, 10 years, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like this is this edgier, newer kind of comedy. And they end their like. Ranchier. Yeah, and then in the end, like, people aren't really participating in popular culture the way they were before.

And you've got people who have, like, kind of grown up and made their own businesses and make their own movies and don't really work together. With no generation after them. No. That's the other thing is all of these people were from this specific generation from the first half of the 2000s. No, I mean, if you recasted this movie today, if you had to just remake the movie with a new cast, I literally don't know who you'd pick. You'd pick, like, Tim Robinson and then all these guys again? Yeah. I mean, I just don't think that they...

Pete Davidson would be in it. Yeah. I think he'd be like the James Franco. But even Pete Davidson likes to make like these like probing autobiographical like dromedies. Yeah, these guys just want to make each other laugh. They want to be in a room and they want to bust each other's balls and crack jokes. Yeah. And like all the movies you mentioned up to the heat are pretty like provocative, I would say.

Like, you know, in a way that's down. definitely like fallen out of fashion in in some good ways and some bad ways. But like I don't really think that it's just amazing to go back and watch like that was like the last point where it was like the thing that really sells is to scandalize people with like your sense of humor. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And in movies I mean.

Yeah, sure. I just think that I also think a huge part of this is that one, it felt like they had nothing else to do. Like this felt like the perfect end. It felt like they were running out of material because they were all turning like 35 years old. Somebody's giving us money to do this. Yeah. And just, I think the group dynamic, all of us, like every movie that you went to with these people, it was like, all right.

Oh, Jonah's playing the straight guy in this one. Oh, no. And now Franco's the weird guy in this one. And I feel like I was going to ask you guys this, do you feel like every era there has been like a group of people in comedies who like owned the era? And that's the problem with right now is there is no group of friends making stuff successfully? Well, I think they're probably making stuff on YouTube. You know what I mean? Like, I think that there are probably people who are really popular on social media or on, like, YouTube that aren't at my fingertips right now to pull from.

But, like, wait, he made a key point, though, because, like, when I was growing up, it was the National Ampoon SNL. Yeah, Chevy, Dan Ayme. And then all those people kind of came out of that. But the behind the seams people like Doug Kenny, they were, those are the guy in Harold Ramis, they're doing Caddyshack. And then we have that whole run. And then those guys, kind of like these guys, became huge stars. And then there was nobody to replace them in the late 80s. But it was Belushi, Akroyd, Chevy, Chevy,

Chevy, and it was always SNL, right? SNL would create, like, the group. SNL was basically the farm system. But these guys are the first guys to kind of break into comedy that didn't come from SNL. Well, then the next era was that

Sandler, Myers, all those guys, which were also the S&O guys. And then, like, I think that the last... These were... This is, like, the Apatown generation. And, like, the Lonely Island people be like the... But they were never as successful

as the Rogan guys, right? No. No, but I think as the... years ago, some of the Sandberg movies might have a nice little run. It's just not that bad. He just didn't make it up. Pop stars actually not bad. Yeah.

He did TV for whatever reason. Well, it's interesting. After neighbors, a million ways to die in the West comes out three weeks later. I didn't see that. I was excited for it. McFarling movie, right? Yeah. And then we go into sequels. 22 Jump Street,

Dumb and Dumber 2. Horrible bosses two. Hot Tub time machine too. Entourage, which is basically a sequel to the movie. Ted 2. Train wreck comes out July 15, which is basically all the Apatel movies, but it's a female in the lead now. Zoolander 2. Neighbors 2, which is the nadir of comedy in the 2010s.

It's like 80 minutes long and it's just neighbors. It's an abomination. It's a Rory Girls. Ghostbusters reviled. And then we get into like the central intelligence. Bad Moms was pretty good. Bad Santa 2. Office Christmas Party.

And we end 2016 with CISO. with Tina Fey and Amy Polo, which was awful. And then I think 2016 was Deadpool, right? Yeah, and then we start moving to the comedies. So it does, like, the superhero movies do kind of assume a little bit of that. But it's easy to say, like everything else, we're like, it's because of Trump. Everybody lost their minds.

It lost their sense of humor. This starts before Trump. Trump's not even a candidate in May 2014. I do feel like, I don't know whether a lot of the ideas were done. People are afraid to push the envelope in the same way. The Twitter era really comes in. and, you know, you just start overthinking how to push the line.

But this, to me, is one of the last movies that pushes the line, you know? Yeah, I mean, like the Jennifer Lawrence movie, No Hard Feelings, came out this weekend that we're recording it, and it made $15 million, which was considered, like, admirable. Yeah, people were, like, kind of surprised. Yeah, like, the prediction was, like, 11 million.

Yeah. And so it was, like, basically, and I think it was, like, everybody was pretty heartened by the fact, but they've obviously put, like, the full court press on for that movie. And it's like they're trying the hardest they can to get that movie in front of people. But it's like that's like the first one in a long time that's like, oh, wow, what a kind of transgressive idea for a movie. And she's really going for it and everything. I think this is the end might be the most the most cocky movie pitch ever. Right.

Like you have to be truly at the top of your game to walk into a studio and be like, here's our idea. It's the apocalypse. We're all playing ourselves. And there's a demon with a 10 foot penis. Yeah. Who rapes Jonah Hill. But there's also like an economic factor to it where like, what did this movie cost? Like $30 something million?

I think they all took pay cuts. And it made 130. So I'm sure they all did very well on it. And they like it's basically got like three sets. They shoot in the house. They shoot a little bit outside. On a lot. Yeah.

Right. So it's like this is the kind of movie where you're like, I don't understand why the economics of this don't make sense anymore. It's just to make something like that. Because there's nobody to put in it. Yeah. You still need. It's like a basketball team.

You still need somebody to go get some buckets. It's like McBride comes in and he's just hitting half-court shots for a half hour. Yeah. This was the last movie ever rented in a blockbuster before Blockbuster closed on November night, 2013. Thought that was kind of fitting

because this is 30 years of renting comedies from video stars. It was based on a short that Rogan and Goldberg did called Jay and Seth versus the Apocalypse in 2007. You can watch it on YouTube. It's like eight minutes long. And then they said,

Rogan and Goldberg said, we always want to do a movie where people played themselves and something extraordinary happens. But the initial version was Seth and Busto Rhymes filming a music video and then Ant Man attacked them and all hell broke was. So they were kind of on the Ant Man train early. Yeah, they were a little on that one.

And then Goldberg said during the filming, the goal was to get as many cast members as possible to say, no, I can't do that. And the only people who never broke were Franco and Rogan. They literally would do anything, say anything. thing being any scene. And then he said it was like 85% improvised Goldberg, which makes sense. I think they had the structure of the scenes and then they just were filming and filming.

So the other thing that's worth noting, though, is like you talk about whether or not it's that environment is right for the comedy or not. But the thing is you got to give credit to Rogan and Goldberg because they're actually really good screenwriters. Yeah. And one of the things about this run of movies that he's in, some of which he wrote or stars in or whatever. It's like when you say the, like, the pitch for a Seth Rogen

where I'm like, Seth Rogen and Catherine Higel go on a one-night stand but they get pregnant, you're like, I'm watching that. You know, super bad Jonah Hill and Michael Sarah try to lose their virginity in one crazy night in high school. You're like, I'm definitely watching that. You know what I mean? Like, they have such good bones. Like all their movies are so...

The one-sentence pitch. Yeah, they're so... And this is basically a bunch of vapid celebrity actors face the Apocalypse. And they do a good job of adding heart to every script they make. And this one, I think, still kind of does it. Like the friend dynamics between Jay and Seth, I still think work at the end of the movie and sacrificing yourself for like the greater good. It was super bad with knocked up. There's always like an emotional pull. You know, movies back in, you know, like other comedies like, happy Gilmore. There's no emotional tug. Sure. But Seth and Evan are great. No matter how ridiculous and like brazen the movies are, they do a great job of like actually incorporating some heart to it. Yeah. It's really good screenwriting. Yeah. You like Goon? I like Goon's got a little of that too. And Goon is like, how did this movie work?

Liam Schreiber as a hockey enforcer? They do that in a long shot, like the Charlese Thermo movie. Which is like got problems, but you're like, damn, I'm like actually pretty invested in like whether or not Rogan and Charlize get together. One of the best airplane movies probably ever. Long shot? Yeah. Like when you find out that Jay has been coming to L.A. without telling Seth, it's kind of just like a mini storyline in every other scene. They bring it back up.

You actually really believe and kind of care about. the two of them and whether or not they're going to reconcile the friendship. Yeah, and that's probably a real-life thing they pulled into. Like Seth probably found out Jay was there, didn't stay with them. So one other thing that I enjoy about this movie, other than all the comedy, is 2013, which I feel like definitely was something. And we were in the middle of Grantland at that time and just head over heels in sports and pop culture.

But there was a lot going on. It was like a fun year for stuff. It was before real life started to really drift in in a lot of different ways. But just like all the people in this movie, James Franco, Jonah Hill, Seth Rogen, Jay Baruchel, Danny McBride, Craig Robbins, Michael Sarah, Emma Watson, Mindy Kaling, Crumholtz, McLevin, Rihanna, Martin Star, Star, Paul Rudd, Chaney Tatum, Kevin Hart, Aziz Ansari, and Jason Segal. Are all in this movie, and for all of them, the arrow is still kind of going up. Yeah. there's no like maybe Michael Sarah is the only one. You couldn't make this movie even a year after this or something.

Like the idea of Rihanna being in your movie and would just be like how would you ever even schedule? And it totally made sense she was in it. That's the craziest one when you look back. Rihanna's in this. Wow. And like enjoying herself. She's like one of the five most famous people in the world possibly.

And she's slapping Michael Sarah in the face. I always think about which of the actors that like they didn't include in the main crew, right? Like Jason Siegel only gets a scene in the movie. And I wonder if there was any politics about who, actually got chosen. Well, I think they wanted more people, but the problem is it's just so hard to get the schedules.

There's a good casting what if for later, but I think there's probably 10 other people they would have had in. And then you just would have had five more little Siegel heart snippets. Yeah. And then you ate the cake. Written and directed by Rogan and Goldberg,

$40 million budget made $1.26. And it ended up in the leaked Sony documents, which you could argue those guys caused. And it was one of the Sony movies that ended up in profit. In the documents that said, this is the end, made $50 million in profit. Right. It was in the thing.

Not bad. Our guy, Raj, didn't review this movie because he sadly passed away in April of 2013. Do you think he would have liked it? I think he would have hated it. Okay. I think he would have said, there's no story. This is like just celebrities jerking each other off. Yeah.

I think he would have not liked it. We did have Wesley Morris. writing for Grantland, who said, The years people like me have been carping about the problems of the so-called bromance, often at Rogan's expense, have produced a movie that wants to call mocking attention to its excesses and privileges

and then burn them down. The movie is obviously on drugs, but they've given its makers a kind of clarity. He liked it. I agree with that. I think it's a very, like, I think it's a pretty, like, sobering, honest, like, look at, like, because, like, not everybody makes it out of this.

And it is kind of, like, being vapid and doing things just because you think it's like it'll be perceived as good rather than being actually good is punished. It's like actually a pretty moral movie. Craig tried to save his ease. You couldn't get there in time. All right. Most rewatchable

scene. I mean, the first half hour of this movie is it's really hard to split it up but I like this set the J. Reunion when they're in the car talking about how he doesn't eat gluten anymore and then they're at a carous junior. A second hitters like oh my god

gluten each bite is better than the previous bite and then they got takes him to his place and he's got joints spelled out as Jay he's got starburst that a 3D TV

and gand off the gray's pipe starts doing I'm a malecala advocate and then also the backstreet boys kick in and it's just so much fun to hang out with these guys

I have a question for you guys so they're like 31 32 when they film this movie yeah and Jay flies in and they have this day of just like smoking weed Dieton Carl's Jr. playing video games. When did, what age did you stop hanging out like a 21-year-old?

35. Okay. Yeah, I think when your friends start having kids, that's when you kind of... When I moved to L.A., and it's just such a different culture than New York, it just kind of like, that's when I stopped smoking totally. Yeah. It just strips it out of you. Like, I think they did a pretty good job of showing how, like, at the end, like,

they probably did that for like three hours. And then they were like, man, I'm really high. Like, I feel like shit, actually. Yeah. There's no fucking way they would be... That is the way. one thing is like they just are like sober when they show up to the house. 100%.

I had this later, but let's ask down. Like how much of the weed do you think they actually smoked during this movie? I just have to imagine they're just constantly smoking. I think so. That's what I felt. It's probably like 100%. I think when you're on the set, it's weapons hot. It's just like we're fucking smoking. It's like Baldwin. If you're not into this,

maybe don't come to this movie set. Yeah. It's a benevolent version of the rest set. Franco's house I just can't believe how good that whole stretches. Franco's House versus the weekend's house and the idol. Franco's House.

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That's Clinic with a K. Clinic Kids is a registered 501c3 nonprofit. Your mama's pussy was the canvas. We have that whole thing from James Franco. Yeah, I just love it. They're all making fun of each other. Like Franco being like the high and mighty, like artsy guy. He's like, fucking I'll do it.

I'll make fun of myself. Mindy Kaling, who does the... I got to fuck Michael Serre today. Pale hairlish. He's fucking pale. He's 110 pounds. He probably has a huge cock. Then we see him slapping around his ass and she belts him. we get some Jonah and Jay stuff

that is so great yeah sick reference man sick reference dude sick references are out of control Siegel and Hart we get the whole they start calling out Jay for being a slacker yeah but you don't like Forrest Gump which is like the perfect movie to pick It's a piece of shit yeah

Does this Coke smell funny and he blows it right McLevin's face? I've never done cocaine before man well you just did the best shit possible Craig Robinson's song is great it's like perfect douchey celebrity like exactly the dumbest way you would have done that. And then peeking with Sarah in the toilet,

which is, it's the way they use him in this and they talked about it. Like he didn't, if he was going to be in it, he wanted to be completely different than anybody he's been in a movie. And he certainly was. It's almost weird that he kind of disappears

for a few years after this, right? Because he's arrested, it's over by now, right? Yeah. And Scott Pilgrim is around this time or maybe it's a little bit before. But I feel like he kind of vanished until like Molly's game. I don't think people know what to think of Michael Sarah.

I still kind of don't. I don't know what his next move was after the 05 to 13 run. Like would you have seen him as like the dad in Kramer versus Kramer? Like what's he going to do as a mid-30s? Yeah, he was on the Amy Schumer Hulu show last year. Yeah. He was actually really good as just like a normal dude. Yeah, he does like indie stuff.

Yeah. Yeah. I think he's happy. Next one I have is just about everyone dies, starting with Sarah getting him. paled. Yeah. And then it's too late for you.

Somebody called my phone. He finds the phone. This is actually really embarrassing. The, uh, I try to say Viziz kills me. But this thing is great. This is a short one,

but Jonah playing with the gun makes me laugh. But he's like, bang, bang. He just seems like a genuinely funny guy. Oh, yeah. Like,

like, just like... You think Joe's funny? No, it's a bad rap. I think people think he's like slightly douchy. I'm all in on Joe. He was actually always really funny.

I think the last like seven years of Jonah have kind of changed what we thought. I mean, he's like totally left the comedy realm. I mean, he did you people, but I feel like Jonah's much more interested in other things now. He's kind of trying to get away from that side of thing. You people like he probably should apologize for. I never saw that.

It's not good. It's bad. The Milky Way argument I enjoy. All right. Danny McBride shows up. Yeah. This is when it elevates to another level. I'm just going to do my Stephen A. Smith

hottest take right now. Oh, interesting. I wonder if it's the same as mine. I think he's the funniest person the last 15 years. I agree with you. I said he's the funniest guy since Farrell. This would be the worst first take segment ever.

We're all like, JJ and Kendrick. I'm like, we agree, Stephen. Like Farrell old school. And then it kind of holds onto the belt through Anchorman, maybe through even like semi-pro, even though I don't know if semi-pro totally worked, but there was just kind of waiting for the successor.

And then McBride, really from the moment he's bound and down showed up through this movie. this five-year run is my favorite. Yeah, he's also doing the thing that Bill Murray and Chevy Chase and Farrell do, which is like essentially playing the same guy. Oh, yeah.

But it's like a variation on, on this blowhard. It's the cocky dick. I mean, Will Farrell's done it. Every movie he's in, he's kind of like the overconfident asshole who's like still weirdly likable. Yeah. I think McBride's funnier than anybody in this generation. He's also like the king of entrances,

eastbound especially. The making the breakfast thing is so good. He's like, you know, I'm sure the green goblin can fucking afford some more bacon. Tell me, James Franco didn't suck any dick last night? No, I know y'all are tripping. You got way shit all of your mouth, Franco. Probably sucks somebody's dick. He's just like.

And he's never really had his own movie. He had Your Highness, which is a flop. And like that's kind of, his whole career is like a Dionne Weir's. We're all obsessed with foot, fist way and probably Eastbound and stuff like that. For me, he's like on the short. list with like Belushi and Chris Farley and people like that like just for just purely making me laugh. Yeah. Like I don't know how many times I've seen this movie.

And when he comes in, I'm just laughing out loud and my kids were like making fun of me. When he's like just fucking making breakfast. Yeah. He does the finger thing. And my kids were like, why do you think this is so funny? And I was just like, this guy just makes me laugh. I just can't like eastbound and down. I would just laugh every episode.

And I just couldn't control it. I just fucking know what it is. Cry every time he's trying to explain why he deserves more water. I have that coming up. Oh, really? You're putting your serious face on, Jonah? He's just ripping him off. He laughs when they say Michael Sarah's dead.

Well, it can't be all bad. Just unbelievable. The Pineapple Express 2 Blood Red. them just randomly throwing that in there. Which is kind of awesome too because Seth and Jay versus the apocalypse River is kind of like them running around with a handy like a camcorder.

So it's like it goes back to like the roots of the movie itself as them making this homemade thing. How many days do you think that takes for them? What? Because they got to film it and then edit it. Is that just three days of the apocalypse right there? They didn't do that in one day. Yeah, probably takes two days. They had special effects.

They'd camera cuts. They got to bring teamsters in to do all the sense. Apparently that's the real plot of the sequel. If they were going to make it, it was going to be blood red. Well, kind of semi becomes the plot of the actual movie because it's like Franco becomes a cannibal. Gets even alive by McBride. McBride becomes a cannibal.

Emma Watson shows up. And now this is a scene I'm not sure. And I'm not, this is not a what's age or worse for me because it's fucking funny. But I wonder if people would go there with this 10 years later. I don't think that, yeah, I don't think so. Like, it's really fucking funny You're talking about the rapy vibes

The rapy vibes Jay's not rapy Jay couldn't rape a fly And then it all culminates The McBride saying Jay knows he's about two minutes away From becoming the house bitch and so But

That's the whole scene's perfect I think there's a better actress for the scene Yeah but she feels very fourth choices That it's Hermione Yeah I get it Hermione came in and stole all of our shit. I think she's in it for the right amount. I'm glad they'd get her kind of in and out.

I think any longer, it would have gotten a little bit stale. Well, here's my pick for most rewatchable scene, as well as, I think, one of the five most funny scenes the last 30 years. I made jizz in your magazine. Dude, you're the fucking best for picking this. This is easily the most, is the, yes, McBride Franco porno fight. Yeah.

I'll come everywhere I want. Like Shakespeare's like, this is some good writing. You guys are doing great job. I guarantee you improvised. I'm sure that was like a 10-minute argument. top down to two minutes. I have a particularly explosive ejaculate. It just goes everywhere. I mean, it just goes on and on. I like

when he gets mad about, what with the 21st century, Buck, Roger? He's out of the house and fucking iPads of the wall. Jerking off like a pilgrim. Wait, I have a question. Every piece of it is just the home run. What was the magazine era like? What do you mean? You know what I mean? It was

pre-internet. Do you miss it? No. It was also like... You look back fondly on it? Not at all. Yeah, it was also like an era, especially for me as a kid, of like some really regrettable, like, going up to the counter of a convenience store with like four things that I thought made me look responsible. Yeah, like a fantasy football magazine. Yeah. You know, like, well, you know, I got to get this apple juice and I should get some gum and maybe some Doritos.

And I'll have two issues of hustle. So that was a thing you guys would, you remember going to the store and actually buying porno mags. Well, it would usually be some guy's dad had them buying around or something like that. Yeah. Or, you know, they were harder to hide. That was the other thing. I mean, they're not pointing you up to hide anything. There needs to be like a shame store where you can just go buy things that are shameful.

There are those stores. They're, they're, I don't know what that is now. I guess, like, for some reason, buying condoms is still weird, you know? Yeah, because, like, you now and it's also like, you're just like always like, I'm just going to scan this out myself. So here I am, like, with, you know. Yeah, there was a lot of shamelessness in the 80s and 90s because we had no other recourse. It's also like a very weird unspoken thing between teenagers and guys where it's just like,

we're just going to like, I'm just going to give you this pornography that I've been, I had for a while. It's like kind of weird when you think back on it. Bobby's dad has a closet. A bunch of shit in there. They're going away for the weekend. That scene is all time. It ends with Franco saying, if I see your dick one more time, I'm going to fucking shoot it off.

You don't have enough bullets, bitch. and then McBride almost one upset when he loses his mind over the water and gets voted out Yeah, pours it all over his head Yeah, try shooting everybody You're making me into a joke right now, Franco and you're not going to like the punch line Like nobody else would come up with a line like that

When I came out of your magazine, James, it was a come for help And then uh And then he turns on those guys Jonah, you fucking cunt Seth, you don't duplicitous taint, and it just goes hardcore

right up to textbook twadage, and then he disappears, and you think we're never going to see him again. And it's like, man, it's too good for Dionne Waiters. Yeah, he's in it too much. Yeah, he's in it too much. I have three more scenes. The Exorcism of Jonah Hill. That's a close number two for me.

Sarcastic, satanic Jona Hill. Oh, really? It's going to compel me. It's not that compelling. Danny and the Gimp reappearing I call him Chaining Tate yum And then Come on how can no one like I can anybody not like this movie I think I got Chating Tate him to do that

It's like insane What actor would do that It's really wild It's really wild What a time Like I'll be a gimp who's like eating human flesh And I watched him on an interview with Conan He was like I think I was drunk

When Seth Rogen emailed me and was like Hey I don't want this to sound insulting but like there's this gimp scene and we'd love it if you could be in it. He was like, I said yes. I thought I assumed that the shots when he has his mask on is a double. No.

It's all Channing. Yeah. I thought it was just a scene where he missed up the mask. There was supposed to be more stuff with him, I think with Emma Watson, right? Yes, and they cut it. I think Emma Watson didn't love it

and they cut a bunch of it. But yeah, like this, when Channing Tatum's like presenting his ass to Danny McBride, like that is Channing Tatum doing that in like assless chaps. Like who is plan B if Chaney Tative said, like go right to Ryan Reynolds? or like would it just keep on one of the Hemsworths brothers probably one of the Hemsworths.

And then the Backstreet Boys song ending which I think is really great. And it hit that nostalgia point of the backstreet boys because it had been like 14, 15 years. Yeah, it's kind of one of the all-time like fuck-it endings. Yeah, I don't think they knew how to end it. So we're all going magazine. Yeah, porn.

Yeah. I've been dropping loads all over this house like a dump truck. I fucking dare you to come on me. What's age the best? Danny McBride So I always love this And I think it's like Like in basketball

Where the other players They talk about certain players They went against And you can just tell like Oh, that guy was definitely the best player They're all saying Seth Rogan said McBride Was the person who made everyone laugh

And break character the most And at one point It took 18 takes and over an hour To get a joke on film Because McBride kept making everybody laugh But they say that about Farley they say about Belushi. It's like the rarest of rare

when you can make everyone else in the room laugh, but everybody's funny. How much time have you spent with Eastbound and Down bloopers on YouTube? Oh, so many of the outakes. With him fucking talking to Mike Barronholtz,

the Deschenco outtake where they're like, tonight, Trichel from real world Las Vegas is coming to the party. I was, Eastbound, I wasn't sure how old my son could be before I brought that into his world.

Is he started watching it? Oh, no, he was like 11. That was when we did it. I want my kids to be funny. And I was like, nah, 10's too early. He might have been 12. My kids are funny. Ben is funny.

I think he might have been 12, actually, but I was like, it's time. Okay. It's bound time. Let's do this. Yeah. You need to have this guy, Kenny Powers, in your life. And now he's in his life. He should go as Ashley Schaefer, BMW for next Halloween.

That's a great blooper, too. Yeah. What's age the best? So when I worked on Kimmel's show, Corolla always used to have this theory about David Spade, how he always used to have these girlfriends because he was like this skinny,

non-threatening, tiny guy. And he would say, these celebrities, they hook up on them. It's like half a fuck. It's not even a total fuck. Like, they barely even, and that's how he does it. It's like they don't even feel bad the next day.

And then Mindy Kaelin proved the theory in the movie. fucking pale, 110 pounds, hairless, probably is a huge cock. I was like, oh my God, Corolla, 20 years later with a W. The real life, Jay and Seth, this is how the other half lives, and Seth's new friends and all the stuff they work in in all these different ways. It had to be real. It's really good.

It's like, oh, your new life. Jonah represents and Franco. I just thought did a good job at that. Rogan said he was shocked by how much the actors insulted each other. And he said Jonah Hill and James Franco seemed to go to each other the hardest, which I thought was funny. That's funny. I just have this in What Stage the Best, like the random Lindsay Lohan reference out of nowhere. Kind of timely, 2013 was the perfect time to drop it.

Said to Chateau Marmot. She kept calling me Jake Gyllenhaal. I like when Jonah Hill, for Wood's Age the Best, talks to God and he says, I'm Jonah Hill. From Moneyball. There's like a bunch of those, like, mini references, like America's sweetheart, Jonah, J-Bone. The devil having a giant dick is so funny. Twice.

The demon with Jonah has a huge penis and then the giant one at the end. I like that. They worked Whitney Houston and the bodyguard into this that the nostalgia time of me that was really good. There's multiple jokes about

Seth getting titty fucked and then when Jonah is possessed he's like, oh, I'm going to titty fuck you, Seth. He's like, no, no. It's just so weird. Like, you have to smoke so much, pot to get to that point where it's like, let's going to be the recurring joke. Yeah, that's

going to be it. This is what he says when the apocalypse, when they get everything together. Seth says, we have 12 bottles of water, 56 beers, 2 vodkas, 4 whiskeys, six bottles of wine, tequila, Nutella, cheese, pizza, eggs, bananas,

apples, bacon, steaks, pancake mix, C.T. Crunch, milk, ketchup of Milky Way. Half ounce sour diesel? What's a sour diesel? That's a weed strain. Three and a half grams, Grandmaster Cush one ounce

of shrooms 15 pills of ecstasy a porn omega baseball bat and the video camera for the movie 27 hours

and he's like 1207 hours he writes it down we'll put we could run the actual Rogan quote for that for the movie

but yeah I just love that whole list so here's the Jonah versus Jay stuff Jay gave an interview earlier this year

the Daily Beast when he was promoting Blackberry yeah and he said not telling and tails out of school, I don't think.

Joan and I didn't get along super well, or at least didn't back then. And he wasn't really fired up about the movie. He thought it was like a bomb as they were making it. Huh. Which is weird because they essentially gave him the lead role. Yeah. And he said, I saw the first rough cut and I was like,

holy fuck, this is funny as fuck. And Jonah is very good at it. That's what I knew was a good movie. It was when I was laughing at Jonah's shit that I never once found funny on set. Oh, my God. And then in the movie, I found myself laughing. And then the interviewer says,

what about that scene? He's giving you all those extra compliments telling you how much he enjoys you. You didn't find that funny in the moment. Jay said, not even fucking kind of. That was exhausting. Yeah, it sucked.

They do a good job. Everyone has that friend in the group where one person doesn't like them. And then your other friend goes, come on, dude, he's like the nicest guy in the world. Yeah, they're like, the friend mediator. Yeah. Who's that for you with fantasy?

You don't want to tell us? Can tell us off camera? Sure. All right, great. The three guys, slipping when he's like tip to tip or scarface style? I thought I never heard that before. I'm good with dicks up.

Yeah, dicks up. Scarface style is great. What else did he have for What Sage's the best? The fan service, like the super bad reunion scene, like they did a good job giving everybody what they wanted and like twisting it a little bit, like making Michael Sarah the crazy Cokehead, even pineapple too. Like these guys didn't make a lot of sequels, which I think is great about them. I guess what is it?

Neighbors 2. I don't even really count that. Pretty much all their great movies don't have any sequels and they did it the best way possible. I agree. The combination of taking one crazy night party

like Project Dex are dazed and confused and then marrying it to Night of Living Dead is pretty fucking potent. So you would have greenlit this in the room. Yeah, it's like, but they just it's, I would have watched like a 55 hour version

of this movie. These are literally two of my favorite genres. Yeah, this could have been like like definitely a prestige TV. I also really like Joe Nehill's dog's name, Asia. It's spelled A-J-H-H-A-I. He can't bark.

They can't bark. I also like video confessionals. I feel like those always work in movies. Yeah. Even in TV. Yeah, are those out of the loop now? Well, it's just like they're stealing from reality TV. It's just great. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I don't know if that gimmick feels like survival and stuff.

Yeah, sitcoms do like the talking heads. It's kind of the same thing. Kid Cuddy Pursuit a happiness word for Best Needle Drop. A lot of choices here, but I really like the Whipum Gangum style popping in because I forgot how much I loved that. What's that song? Is it bad? I had that in what stage is the worst? No, I just like that it came in.

It's like, oh, this is so 2013 that they decided. I have to step into a world of the Karas one. Yeah, it's good, too. I think paper planes dropping for Pineapple 2 is huge. And then Cypress Hill. I think Danny Fried's entrance. Okay. Oh, yeah, that's probably, that probably once.

The Big Kahuna Burger Award, Best Use of Food, drink. Just the first time it's ever been to water? No, it's breakfast. It's Danny McBride's breakfast. Or you could say the Carl's Jr. It's really good, too, because that made me want to have a Carl's Jr.

The Milky Way also is pretty big. When they take the bite and swallow it before giving it to Jonah? The Dennett Thieves Benihanna Award for scenes dealing location and the Great Shot Order Award for most cinematic shot. I think it's heaven with the backstreet boys. Right?

It just seems really pleasant. It seems like a better version of Vegas. Yeah. I also like, I think McBride's entrance is like pretty cinematic. Yeah, I mean, the only competition would be them running away from the convenience store when the apocalypse first starts and all the car car accidents. You're right. McBride probably wins the most cinematic. Yeah, it's a real entrance.

How does he do the hands? What does he do that? This is the birds, yeah. The Butch's girlfriend award, weak link of the film. There's not a lot of weaklinks in this film. But they had a plan for a post-credit scene in hell. and I think they should have done it and it bothers me.

Isn't Hitler in it? It was going to be Franco McBride and Jonah smoking marijuana with Hitler and they're just in hell and that would have been the post credits. I think they should have done that. I think they should have done it. I think we should have ended in hell.

We had the heaven thing but then credits and it's like, oh, here come the credits and then all of a sudden we're in hell. But I would have had more than I would have had multiple people down there. Besides Hitler. I would have done a bunch. Okay.

It would have had a bunch. What's age the worst? we mentioned the party could have been five to six minutes longer and maybe you could have taken Craig Robinson leaving the house and coming back like you could have cut there and just had more party scenes

I guess Franco has to be mentioned as a woods age or worse right? I mean he doesn't even talk to Seth anymore and hasn't worked in like three or four years basically officially canceled right? Yeah I mean I think it's also just like it's just so weird to to have him be like such a huge part of this movie

and he's the person in this that's like pretty much vanished I guess. Especially since like him and Rogan through this entire run are really kind of like pitched to us as truly best friends. Yeah. It's weird. It's weird.

Like even the paintings next to it. So that part always like I always think about that as Where do you guys want my name and your name next to each other? Yeah. Where do you guys stand on the interview? The movie The Interview. Yeah. I didn't love it.

Yeah. I mean it was so overshadowed by the controversy. Yeah. It was hard to take it. It probably wasn't as bad as like. like I thought it was at the time, but it was so overshadowed. I know.

I rewatched it. I thought it was all right. I think it would have done pretty well. I think it did great in DVD sales. It's fine. We mentioned Emma Watson left the set due to scenes that were being improvised, which was the McBride,

Shannon Tatum stuff. And then Rogan apologized and then... Well, he was like, she didn't like storm off. Yeah. She was like, she was just like, this is a little bit different

than what you said it was going to be or something. So he said later, the narrative that she was in some way uncool or unprofessional was complete bullshit. I should have communicated better. I didn't. She was putting an uncomfortable situation.

But it became a thing for like a day and then it wasn't a thing. I just think improvising in general is just a different beast. Like any, you know. Have you ever taken improv classes? I did improv in college. Did you? Yeah. Did you enjoy it?

Yeah. It's pretty nerve-wracking, but it's like a muscle. You got to keep doing it to get better on it. And once you stop, it's like the rewashables. It's like golf. It's nerve-racking, but you got to keep doing it. Remember Craig's hottest take? He easily could have been an actor.

That's right. Anyone could be an actor. You just have to be tall and have a good chin. It's not that hard. Any other what's age the worst for you guys? No. 3D TVs. Oh, that's a good one.

Yeah. I guess that has age poorly. Yeah. That was the specific era when people thought 3D was going to take over everything. I also think it's aged a little bit of the worst from this era of movies and the Seth Rogen universe in general. And this may be speaking to my age, but I'm pretty over-marijuana culture. Yeah. And so like since it's a little undervalian.

legalized and like everything and especially where we live in California it's just kind of like I'm like I'm all good on this like now like weed humor to you now you're like I don't yeah I'm like what I could really use at this place is a convenience store not another weed place you know yeah one too many men's maybe a deli

yeah where I can get some some porno mags and a coke you know I'm still upset Chris didn't back us on the post credits being in hell I'm not backing you I felt like you were kind of disgusted by Craig and I would have taken a sequel about it we just did Hitler and last crusade. Is that like I'm against Hitler

showing up in movies? It felt like they could have put him... So you're against Hitler on the record. They could have put a bunch of people in there. Ron Burgundy Flute Award for Best Time for a P-break. Craig leaves the house I had. Yeah. Because I actually did one of the three times I watched this movie in the last week. The third time, Craig was about to leave the house. I'm like, oh, I'm going to go. Craig N.J. or when Craig leaves?

I think Craig leaves. Yeah, either one. Best quote, too many mention. It's just pick 10 from Dayton McBride. Yeah. Pick a McBride quote. Did you guys have a Stephen A. Smith Howdes-Take-Take-A. Smith-Hodders-Take-A award? I did. What do you got? Just workshop this with Fentasy who helped me with it, so I want to give him a little bit of credit for it. It's what friends do. This is the best movie from this era. This is the best Apatow adjacent movie. It's better than knocked up. It's better than Superpad. And I'll tell you why. Because it does not end with affirming the

nuclear family. It's not about, oh, at the end of the day, you have to grow up. You know, at the end of the day, you like what you're doing here. You have to be an adult. It's like this is basically like these guys are friends They get saved by in heaven Because they realize that like friendship is important But it's not like what we really need to do is become responsible people And that all of them do it The way it happens and knocked up

They don't grow up Yeah Yeah Yeah And I think it's telling that Seth and Evan directed it And it's not like I'll hear what we need to do Because I think if Apatow was doing it And he's well in a little more hard

I think it would be like there would be The conclusion of the film needed to be more heartening. You know, the conclusion of the movie needed to be like, we can go back in time and stop the apocalypse from happening or something. I mean, and like also, you know, half of these people in the movie actually die. Like, they kill Jonah Hill. They kill James Franco. Yeah. Yeah. Poor Z's falls to his death. Dave Krumholtz. It's over for you already. What's Dave Crumholtz doing in this movie? I didn't understand. Crumholtz is in all of these movies, though. I had him. Super bad. Yeah. I had him as the best that guy. Is he just like

friends with them? Yeah. He's, but who is the guy in Leo's group? Lucas Haas. Yeah, the Lucas Haas is like a pretty, he was a fucking witness at least, you know what I mean? Yeah, Dave Crumbulls is in numbers. Yeah? And to Santa Claus? Do you have the hottest take or are you out? No, mine was literally McBride is the funniest.

I can't wait for people's reaction to that on the universe because I don't think I realized it until I thought about it. Maybe other people arrived to that conclusion a while ago. You know what he also did that was so smart is he just kept making his own stuff. Like he never put himself on the market and was like, yeah, I guess I'll just like be in this person. movie and hopefully I can make it funnier. Like he doesn't really, he hasn't done you people, you know?

Like he's just like, I make vice principals, I make eastbound, I make gemstones, you know. What a hero. And McBride kind of calls them all sellouts in the movie even. Yeah. And it's kind of funny too because when you watch Observe and Report, which is Jody Hill's movie that I think Danny wrote, co-wrote, it's like, that's like basically like Seth Rogen doing McBride in that movie. And McBride wrote or co-wrote the Halloween movies.

Yeah. And the upcoming exercise ones. Yeah. Casting what ifs? This is a big one. That Emma Watson part was supposed to be Milakunis and she couldn't do it with scheduling. And it sucks that she's not in this movie.

I go back and forth. It's really missing her on it because she has a history with these dudes. But does that make it funnier or is it better that the Emma Watson thing is crazy? It's like almost awkward that Emma Watson's in the movie and that almost makes it funnier. I think Milakunis would have been just funnier though. She might even funnier, you would have been like, yeah,

Milakunis is like in these movies. Yeah, she was like, in forgetting Sarah Marshall, like them just being like Hermione stole our shit. Yeah. And McBride being like, I can't wait to ask her

about those motion pictures. Is she funnier than Kristen Stewart? Oh, that's a good point. They'd gone Twilight. Okay, Stu. I think there's an innocence to Emma Watson that makes this work. All right.

I like me, though. They changed the movie from L.A. to New Orleans to save money where they filmed it. and they lost Cameron Diaz as a celebrity camera she was supposed to be at the party I think she would have been good

yeah they wanted Daniel Radcliffe to be in it and he turned it down I wonder if he regrets that probably and then the original ending he was like only if I can be in hell with Hitler

and Carl Malone the original the original ending they go to heaven They're greeted by Morgan Freeman. And the whole joke was he shows up and he's like, I'm God. And they're like, you're a God? And this is Goldberg saying it.

And Jay Barrow Shell says, wait, so when we were a million-dollar baby together, you were God then? I don't get it. And then God shows up and he's like, we're just fucking with you. This is Morgan Freeman. We play this joke on people now. You want to get high and play some video games. But then Morgan Freeman said no. That's pretty good.

Rather have that or the Backstreet Boys. Definitely backstreet boys. And Goldberg said it was the best day he's ever had When the Backstreet Boys came on did their thing Who do you have for the overacting award? I don't really have one I didn't have one either I mean like nobody everyone dialed it up properly

Yeah I mean Sarah's going for it but it works Yeah Oh yeah Best that guy award is Crumholtz of that guy yet No I've like five more years Brian Husky who sticks his head through the door and gets a job Oh that's a good one What else is he in?

Veepe right tons of stuff Oh, yeah. That's a good one. The Dion Waders Award. Sarah. Yeah, not even close. Not even close. The same.

The Sippy cups. Yeah, there's sippy cups. Tip time. Sippy time. At one point when he's just staring, he's a crazy stare when he's in the bathroom. And they're looking at each other and just like kind of like, it honestly looks like some of the people we walk.

I love nothing more than when a celebrity is willing to play themselves and just do something completely bad shit. Crazy. I didn't tell you guys this. I've created a new category. Oh my God. Yeah. Going forward, the Danny McBride Award,

best job playing yourself. Is now part of the rewatchables. Like, what are we going to do with like Scarface? Who gets the Danny McBride? If it's, if nobody plays himself in the movie, we're out. Right.

But if somebody's playing themselves and they're fucking awesome, we're handing them the Danny McBride award. I thought he was that great in this movie that we needed a word named after him. Recasting couch, Admi Le Kunis. You guys disagree.

Would you have anybody? Well, I was going to ask for recasting couch as if this movie was getting made today, like what cohort of people would you want to see it made about? You know, Tim Robinson is probably like, right now leading the comedy game. It's not the same.

But he's not famous enough. Yeah. Like you couldn't, could you do the Timothy Shalamez and Dea Tom Holland group of people? Like Sidney's in it. Just all like the famous... What a shock that you would mention her

as just a random name to throw out? Really good in reality. Did you like reality? I support the queen. If she's making a movie, I'm watching it. Government surveillance? A little bit. Okay.

Well, I was thinking one of the things... You're going to protecting sources, so I could see why that movie would appeal to you. If we operated under the assumption Franco is now canceled, we have to retroact to go back and digitally change his scenes. Who's in the Franco spot? Is it Ryan Reynolds? I think it's Siegel.

Yeah. Because you would have to have somebody who was friends of them. Yeah, and he's kind of like... has the lovable quality that Franco gives off. I got to say, I think Siegel wasn't in this universe enough. Siegel's great. You gotta wonder if he doesn't want you. I don't think he wanted to be.

Like, he's happy to be around. And like, what's he, he's in, he's in freaks and geeks. He's in freaks and geeks. And then he, what does he do? He does, I love you, man. And he's in knocked up. I love you, man. It's really funny.

Yeah. I like that movie. Great movie. Yeah. It's on like the rewatchables, like, 2025 list when we're running out. but I really like that movie What an endorsement

The accordion of rewatchables Where it's like we're not gonna get through the end of the year 26 It's like it's like the Dame lowered contract for it's like Wait he's making 60.9 million You just start releasing like what movies are gonna do like Marvel does With like movies coming on 2027 We're gonna wrap this thing up

And the World Cup final A lot of good ones left Have Fast Internet Research The butt slapping He was faking it And it seemed fake And so he asked Rihanna if he could actually slap her butt. And she said, if I can hit you back.

And that's what happened. But they filmed multiple takes. And she just beat the shit out of them in each take. Apparently, he had to go lay down. The scene from the movie, like, it messed up as equilibrium. He had to go lay down for that. Dana White started the slap league because of the scene. That's a good one.

The bag in which Emma Watson takes the water is the same duffel bag used in Pineapple Express. Because they had saved some of these props. these guys were shocked this movie was an NC17 they intentionally push the envelope thinking stuff would get cut and then they were just like cool rated R and they were like wow really the devil's 10 foot cock we can just linger on that for two seconds

Franco did all the paintings yeah there's a sequence when they eat James Franco where McBride holds up Franco's severed foot and then pours blood and drinks the blood and the test audiences were like this is too much this is too much this has gone too far

um they really did almost film the marijuana Hitler scene and they all decided it was too much so they were on your side to you yeah release the Hitler cut uh when when Jay and Seth pull up to Franco's house

step into a world is playing which samples rapture It's like very stealth. I also didn't realize in that scene when they mentioned that Tatum lives down the street when they're walking up to the house in the beginning. Yes. Where are they, so they talk about,

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times. There's this whole great conversation about how to get over the hill. Yeah. He's like Laurel Canyon. It's also like real bullshit. Well, we can get to this. Yeah. Apex Mountain. I don't know when it is for Rogan. You could argue it's this movie because this movie made a lot of money.

The run that he does is 40-year-old virgin knocked up super bad Kung Fu Panda. Observe and report funny people Green Hornet and Paul, which is sort of the wobble. 50-50, which is actually quite good. Take this waltz. This is the end neighbors and Steve Jobs.

So it's either this is the end or neighbors. As the apex? Yeah. Not knocked up? No, because I think I probably would say it's this is the end

because when this movie makes money and then Neighbors is coming and I would say... Neighbors they did that was the same thing where neighbors was like cheap and it made like $200 million dollars, right? Jonah Hill no.

It's close. I mean, this is Wolf and this is the end, right? Same year. Wolf's, I would say it's probably wolf. It's a wolf for money ball, yeah. Yeah. Didn't he get nominated for him? anymore?

Yeah. Franco, it's probably right around here. Maybe 1.27 hours. Did he win the Oscar for that? No, we got nominated. Probably getting nominated. McBride, this is last year of Eastbound

and this movie. I'm going to say yes. Yeah, it's probably right. Craig Robinson, it's right around here for him, too. He's got a hot tub time machine was a couple years earlier in the office than this.

Sarah, it's backwards. It's probably super bad. Yeah. Emma Watson. Yeah, this is way bigger than being Harry Potter. Yeah, I'm going to say Harry Potter. Backstreet Boys, no.

Comedies? Is it Apex Mountain for comedies? I'm going to say no. Okay. I'm just throwing it out there. Well, you just, you called it the greatest comedy of the generation. Yeah, but not of all time.

21st century. And I didn't say generation, I just said of this cohort. Comedies of the last 10 years? Yes. From 23, 2020, to 2013? Easily. Yeah.

I don't even know what's in the conversation. I think it's Apex Mountain for just movie pitches. Oh, that's good. Yeah. I like that.

How about Melrose? It's really good use of Melrose. Although it makes Melrose seem a lot more like convenient than it actually is because they're just like, yeah, we're just walked down to this convenience store.

Yeah. Yeah. Nothing like a fucking store like that on Melrose. Best resource name. Asia. A spelled the way. Yeah. What about textbook twatage?

What about Channing Tate Yom? Here comes to Channett. It was good. Oh, God. Pickin' Nits. Where in L.A. could Franco have that house, but then walk three blocks to Melrose? That street does not exist. Unlikely that Channing Tatum and him both live right off the street.

Like that they're not in some sort of gay community or up a hill or something. We're mixing, like, three different neighborhoods. That looks like it's down the street from the Hollywood Bowl. Yeah, it does seem like kind of Los Feliz-ish You're not walking to Melrose Yeah In three blocks from that house I had a lot of issues with that

Rogan said it's not a real house But it was supposed to be near Melrose But Melrose isn't in the hills I know they say it's in the hills But I think they film it as if it's in West Hollywood This conversation's for like 10 people No it's not No, it's like this is important work

Listen, it's like a 902-0 They lived in Manhattan Beach But went to California you And could just drop in You come for the ethics of Hitler and comedies and you stay for that L.A. real estate talk. But this is one of these things you don't know until you move here. You think the way L.A. is presented in TV and movies. Everything is right next to everything.

Even the street they're on, like when they pull up in the taxi, it's like this huge wide street. It looks like San Jose. And you're like, this isn't at the hills? Yeah. I feel like that house is almost like Brentwood. Yeah. But it's not.

We're supposed to be in the city. A lot of issues. Would Emma Watson, would they really have been that scared of her with the axe? there's six of them. Well, I think the whole point of them is that they're supposed to be idiot actors who can't take care of themselves. Okay, that's good. I like that.

What other nitpick? Hard to nitpick this movie because it's insane. There's no way Seth Rogen is picking anyone up from the airport. Oh, that's great. Great one, Craig. There's just zero chance. In 13, no.

He's Seth Rogen, he's playing himself. Yeah, but like Uber gets really going in 13-14. He would call him a driver then. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. He's sending somebody. Great call.

Also standing at the gate, like not even just in the car, way to doing loops? Yeah, that's post 9-11. Nobody does that. No. Yeah, that's really good. I don't feel like Michael Sarah and Mindy Kaling makes sense as a couple. That is a picky nits.

I think that's part of the what makes it funny. Yeah, I know. I just don't see that as a comma. Sequel, Prequel, Prestige TV, all black cast are untouchable. This isn't untouchable for me, but the Prestige TV version of this, I think, would have been really good. Now, now it can't be touched. Now, I mean, this is kind of like a weird spiritual sequel to Pineapple Express

anyway. I don't know what happens with this category. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Treo, Catherine Hahn, Steve Buscemi, Sam Jackson, J.T. Walsh, or Philip Baker Hall. So this is one of the movies where I think any of those people would do a really good job. I also would like to throw a little wrinkle in here.

Yeah. Would this movie have been better if John Bernthal was John Bernthal in it? And John Bernthal are just driven down from Ohio. He's got his dog. He's just like, You guys, you get some real fucking interesting guys up in here, you know? It's tough.

You can't really do Wayne because Danny McBride almost overpower is Wayne. Yeah, Danny McBride outweens Wayne in this movie. Maybe he could talk about it. They'd be like, oh, fuck you, Wayne Jenkins. Just one Oscar who gets it clearly Danny McBride. Yeah. Probably in answer to questions. Are you really supposed to take six shits a day?

That's the thing said in this movie. I don't think so I think two was correct I think Jay was right with two yeah six is a lot what happened post apocalypse to Aja the incontinent Spaniel

did he make it no just in the cage being used for sport by Danny McBride wasn't that who Seth Rogan was carrying at the end of the movie

was it when he's dancing with the dog during backstreet boys isn't he's holding Is that Aja? I assumed oh my god that's hilarious

that might actually be true yeah yeah Is Michael Sarah's butthole really like a pink sprinkled donut? What do you think? Yeah, I think so. What a world. This is an important one.

Does Jay Baruchel actually kind of suck? Is that like one of the stealth points of this movie? I think they just do a really good job of him playing a type. I'm sure he doesn't suck. But I'm sure he's just a guy. He's fucking hate L.A. I said kind of suck. I think he hates L.A.

He's really unlikable in this movie. And I don't know. It doesn't seem like he totally wants to be there. Then he gave that Daily Beast interview where he's like, yeah, I was fucking miserable and I don't actually really like Joan Hill and I'm wondering like they have them in there but all of that was like real life stuff like he doesn't like

these guys but is he a good hang though? Well I just think he's a great hang in Canada. Yeah I just feel like he thinks that he got market corrected by all of Seth Rogen's new friends in L.A. It's like the classic you meet your new group of friends when you're in your mid-late 20s

or early 30s and your friend from high school or wherever and he tries to fit it and it just goes badly I feel like they're trying to say that in this. Yeah. In a very stealth way. I don't know. I mean, it's pretty out in the open.

And everybody seems to talk about how this movie was based on real life, which is kind of weird. I don't think this happens too often. Where do you rank Jay Burrushel's acting, just in general? I think he's very good of playing himself. Is this an apex? Yeah, I would say this is probably a million-dollar baby. That movie won even though it's... That Mindy Kaling says that.

And he's like, wow, thanks. That's in the campy rewatchables? But I also really like the fact. that like he's like everybody here is bullshit but as soon as somebody pays him a compliment he's like really excited yeah so you guys are higher on him than I am

you're harder on him than we are I said higher oh yeah higher yeah I don't really care about him he might have sucked yeah the Hitler gang here is out on Jay Barichel but I like him Hitler and hell best double feature choice of this movie it's got to be pineapple oh I was gonna say Project X

oh wow yeah just Man, you're really setting the pace of those two. Should they have made pineapple too? No, I'm glad they didn't. Do you think, you like pineapple? Love it. Yeah. You did it on the rewatchables, right?

Yeah, with the Danish. It is, I do appreciate that they didn't really make sequels. And I'm sure they got a ton of pressure to do it, and they never really caved. How many good comedies had a good sequel? What's the best comedy sequel ever? I'm still mad about what... I mean, National Ampton's European Vacation? Austin Powers.

Christmas vacation movie Yeah, Austin Powers is a good one You like Christmas more than European? Yeah Oh, that's right You were big into Christmas

I love the Christmas movie Fletch too I remember where I saw it And how upset we all were I remember who I was with And we were just fucking furious We were like how did they fuck that up We all love Fletch

Just have them walk in And make one-liner jokes And instead it was like this Like proud boys KKK What the hell was the plot in that movie? I can't remember honestly He was like dive

I hated that movie The Andy and Reds of Watanayor for what happened the next day. Well, we had the apocalypse. Oh, this is good. What piece of memorabilia would you want from this movie? A lot of options. A lot of options.

The porno mag. The crusty porno magazine, probably. I like the giant penis sculpture. Well, it got circumcised that way through the movie. I'll tape it back on. I like that. The gun? Yeah.

Michael Serer's Windbreaker. Oh, which I forgot to mention this. That was his only request. He's like, I got to wear this yellow wound breaker. And they're like, all right, cool, Michael Serra. Do we not use Michael Sarah enough? He might be like a genius. I think he's, like, starring in the next Wes Anderson movie, though.

Oh. Yeah. I mean, he won the Dion Waders Award. You mentioned maybe naming it after him. Okay, fair. At what point do we have to rename the Deon Writers Award? He isn't that a relevant basketball moment in seven years? It's like Dion Waders is to this podcast as weed culture is to this is the end.

Yeah, maybe. I just worry about the kids. We're like, who's the on waiters? This podcast is doing a public service by educating. Maybe. Like if five people look up Deon Waiters per episode. I mean, he basically invented the heat check. I know.

So let's pay respect to the fucking... Michael Sarah. It's about as good of a heat check as we've had in any of these movies. He's in it for what, four minutes? I thought. Yeah. I think for memorabilia,

the magazine would be pretty good. You'd be like, this is the actual magazine from one of the great comedy scenes of the 21st century. The paintings, Rogan and Franco paintings, that would be fun.

Yeah, I guess that's a little problematic, though. Yeah. I like the penis sculpture. You could have the gimp, the gimp collar for Cheney Tatum. It's true. Sounds like he might come over and put it on if you ask, too.

If you just hit him at the right time and I, yeah, 2 a.m. The bong? Like whatever the bong they use, the first thing? No, it's one of those that we mentioned. Oh, the Gandalf pipe. Oh, that's a good one.

I don't even smoke, but I think that would be funny. The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson, what is it? Be nice to your friends. Genuinely a good person, yeah. I do kind of like when Seth Rogen draws the burnt match. And then he goes, I'm going to be honest, I'm not going. I know this is how it works. He's like, I'm not going.

I think that, I would probably do that. I refused to go. The birth match thing was great. I don't know if I've ever seen that before. Yeah. What a great idea. Shortstick. Yeah, I've never seen that.

I'd never seen it for either. Yeah. This is tough. Who won the movie? It's McBride. Yeah, easy. You talked me into it, too. I wouldn't necessarily have thought that going to this episode.

I knew that I was going to talk a lot about him. But now in retrospect, if you're talking about, like, oh, nobody's ever taken over since these guys, maybe McBride did. Yeah. Chris, you're to pus at his taint, but I think you're right. I think it was Danny McBride. No, he wins. Every moment he's in the movie, it's a home run.

Even when, like, Franco's doing the car. confessional and he's just kind of lurking in the background behind him. He's just so universally loved. Like, Liz watched this movie and loves this movie and thinks Danny McBride is hilarious. Like, if Liz is like, Danny McBride absolutely like breaks me up in this movie, I'm like, all right. He also has an awesome life. Yeah. He lives in South Carolina.

Like him and all his friends live near each other. They make shit together. Like Jody Hill and those guys. Because they all went to like North Carolina film school together, I think. That's what they met. What's your single favorite? Eastbound. Like episode or?

Yeah. I think the first season's the best season. Yeah. I mean, all this stuff. I don't like when he goes to minor league baseball as much. When he goes to Mexico. When he goes to Mexico and then he goes to Fort Myers, Florida. I think like the first three episodes of Eastbound are kind of unparalleled.

When he's meeting the kids in the classroom. Oh, my God. My dad says you ruined baseball. He's like, all right, I can already tell I don't like you. I think a lot of like this stuff that happens in the first is, I mean, like, there are moments in the other seasons like Adam Scott, Adam Scott playing like the vice president of the Tampa Bay. Well, I like when he becomes a talking head sports guy for like three episodes.

Yeah. I thought that was like really good. I would have watched the whole season of that. It was like Kenny Powers basically becomes perk. Yeah. She's coming in Fire and Takes. Do you watch Gemstones? No, I don't.

Should I? It's good. Yeah, it's really good. I watched the first season. I feel like I have such an awesome Danny McBride relationship just as a fan. Like, I don't want to attempt. It doesn't dip at all. Yeah?

No. It's just nice that he's never, other than your highness, he's never really. had an opportunity to have like a huge flop. He just kind of picks and chooses his spots. He's like a Dion Waiter's career. Yeah. I respect it. I like that.

He still lives in the South. I had him on the podcast, on the HBO show actually once. He was great. But like you just keep waiting for him to turn into Kenny Powers when you're talking about. I'm sure he has to deal with that. Like I'm sure whenever he walks into a bar, everybody's like shots,

Kenny Powers. What's up, man? It's so funny, though, to win this movie where you're by far the funniest person in the movie and it's all these funny people from an entire generation. But I think he's like sincerely funny and I think by this point some of those guys are starting to be like I want to be taking seriously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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