The Rewatchables - ‘True Lies’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan take the ice trays out of the freezer before rewatching James Cameron’s 1994 action comedy ‘True Lies,’ starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tom Arnold, and Jamie Lee Curtis. Producer: Craig Horlbeck Subscribe to our YouTube channel Ringer Movies! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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as episodes of The Big Picture with Sean Fantasy and Amanda Dobbins. Coming up on this podcast, me and Van Lathen and Chris Ryan, we're going to do True Lies. The 30-year anniversary of that classic It's coming up next. Let's go.

For 15 years, Harry Tasker's been leading a double life. Hi, it's Helen. Is he in? Harry's in his sales meeting, Mrs. Tasker. He's protected the country. He's faced the enemy. But when his wife finds out, Harry.

Who's going to protect him? Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jenny Lee Curtis, in a James Cameron film. What can I say? I'm a spy. True lies. Ridded R. starts Friday, July 15th at Theaters Everywhere.

All right, CR is here. Van Lathen is here. I didn't even know where to start. True Lies. I watched it twice in four days. I don't know why I don't watch this movie more often. I'm going to give you three outlandish takes about True Lies, and you guys tell me where you want to start the podcast.

Outlandish take number one, Arnold Schwarzenegger's greatest performance of all time. Not Atlantis. I don't think it's... take number two. This is the best Bond movie of the last 40 years. Atlantis take number three. Biggest mischance for a sequel of any 90s movie. Where do we want to

start, CR? Can we start at 3? Because 2, I think it's just wrong, but I respect you're... I like what you're doing. I like what you're doing, but I think 3 is, of all the things that we have franchised to death, I can't believe this is something that never got a scene. I can't believe it.

How is the words that matter? We should be, like, mad that they made a true lies five I'll like all right guys I step further I would have taken true lies two over Avatar oh yeah yeah you know in Rounders when he goes to grandma he doesn't have his money and he goes it's got to be a story

that's how I feel about why there's no true lie sequel sequel there's got to be a story no you know what the story is Titanic made like two billion dollars like Cameron's IMDB just goes off a cliff after Titanic He basically just makes Avatar and the second avatar. I mean, I think he would beg to differ and be like, I've invented submarines. No, he's doing, but he's just not making movies. He didn't need to make true lies too because he didn't need to make any money.

He's a billionaire. He got so into the technology of making movies that the actual making of movies and telling new stories I think became less compelling to him. Yeah, maybe. He does. I have the Cameron. From 84 to 97, Terminator, aliens, the Abyss, Terminator 2, True Lives, Titanic. And it's like a

jenga stack and he keeps going up and then Titanic happens and it's the biggest most successful movie probably ever made to that point. This is probably the last time it felt like he just like made a movie. I mean even his version of that is still like Harrier Jets

and 7 mile bridge and like all these crazy set pieces. But this is one that didn't feel like oh I have like a technological advance I want to make in filmmaking and so I'm going to make a movie to go along with it. This just felt like he wanted to make

both a Bond movie and a comedy and the biggest blockbuster. And work with Arnold again. Yeah, I mean, I'll go one further. I don't know that this movie has ever been topped in terms of spectacle in action movies. Like, since this movie came out,

I don't know. There's lots of things that are really like thrilling. There are incredible advances in special effects. But you watch this movie and you're like, I don't know what what I'm watching is a miniature. I don't know what I'm watching is digital. I don't know what is practical and they actually are doing it.

Yeah, big holy shit factor. Yeah, like the holy shit factor in this movie is off the fucking charts. It's also that way, though, because the movie keeps playing with its tone. Yeah. It starts off with this. Couple tones right in Van Lathens' wheelhouse. Yeah, exactly. We'll talk about it.

Jesus. It starts off huge. And then it mutes out. It becomes like an intimate family comedy about a, uh, philandering wife and a husband trying to figure it out. And then boom, the next thing you know, he's the baddest ass in the world again. And there are fighter jets and nuclear explosions and all of that. You kind of forget at a point that that's the movie that you're watching and then it comes back.

Yeah, you're right. It does do like two swerves. I wrote down the recipe. It's one part Bond Spy movie, one part 80s, 90s action blockbuster with like feral villains, crypto-conservative politics for like the crimson jihad thing. One part of it is just a diploma movie. movie where it's like a guy faking his voice and watching his wife do strip teases and stuff like that and looking at her through the mirror but she doesn't know

he's on the other side and one part of it is naked gun because there's parts of it that are just like straight up madcap screwball psychags like tom tom arnold hiding behind a pole as machine gun bullets miss him yeah is basically like something you would see in a naked gun movie so my hottest take i can already spoil it right now is this is the finest director work from Cameron ever to me. And it's not the biggest. Obviously, Terminator 2 is like a perfect movie. But the versatility of him, because he's directing comedy in a way as well, right?

So when Schwarzenegger walks up the stairs and he sees her and she's on the exercise bike, to stop his face looking at her and then he goes right into his whole thing, it's hysterical. The movie becomes literally. side-splittingly funny for the entire middle and then jumps right back into action movie. He's playing with so many different genres,

so many different methods of directing that it was kind of, it's like the last one that he did before he just went into the huge, huge blockbuster mode. Can I be honest with you? Because you were so candid with us on the last rewatchables when you were like I didn't like Twister the first time around. It kind of missed it the first time around

where I was kind of like... I just... You were like worried about what it pretended. I was happening. I kind of... I was just a kid, so I'm not like pretending like I had like some sort of like mass like understanding of the film business. But when I saw this movie, I was kind of like this gave me a headache. You know, it's a lot. It's like a ton of sugar in this movie.

Yeah. And you're watching it. It's like the plot's kind of stupid. The whole like Crimson Jihad thing is kind of stupid. And I think it really did feel like, wow, I wonder if this is going to be like movies from now on is like what's the biggest thing we can blow up. You know what I mean? Like it felt like it was constantly topping itself within the film. It was right after speed too, right?

Yeah, and now, like, going back, when you watch it, you see all the different genres he's playing with. You see, like, the subtlety of the direction in certain places. Another moment I love is when he comes up to get her for lunch. And then she gets the phone call from Simon, and he stops right before at the cubicle. Like, that's a moment you don't really notice the first time you watch because you're like, damn, they just had a horse in an elevator, you know?

But there's lots of stuff like that. But the first time I saw this, I was like, man, I feel like I drank three Cokes. And he's asking more from Arnold Schwarzenegger because we had seen Arnold Schwarzenegger be funny. He had been funny, right? I think this is after kindergarten cop, right? So he had been funny. Twins, he had been funny.

But to go back and forth, we hadn't really seen that. And Arnold's like... They kind of try to do it with him in kindergarten cop, but this is way better. The car is like... Way better version of it. But Arnold's kind of... He's charming.

He's Devinere. He's... At the first scene of the movie, you have to believe that Tia, Carrera wants to have sex with Arnold Schwarzenegger, and he totally pulls it all. Arnold believed it. This is also right around the time. It's like where we go after.

When he's starting to play, he's at like the peak of his popularity, but he's still playing around with the image. Yeah. So he does last action hero and this. For sure. And it's kind of like, yeah, like, you think of me this way, but what if I was like a jealous husband? Or you think of me this way, but what if I was a cartoon character come to life? Like, it's, there's a lot of like very self-complicated. conscious like commentary on the Arnold image in this.

I have more Arnold thoughts. Just to put a bow on the biggest mischance for a sequel of any 90s movie, I went back and I looked at the top five box office for every year of the 90s. Okay. And most of them, they're like, we're writing that back. Too much money is at stake, right? You couldn't do it with something like Ghost, like Ghost as a beginning, middle end. The only four that were definitely repeatable but did not have a sequel.

Pretty Woman, I feel like they could add a sequel for that, where now they're married and living in the Hamptons, and it just goes a total different direction. My wife would have gone. Just see you guys know. It's a terrible movie, but yeah. I'm just saying it could have happened. They basically, they make runaway bride, which was the unofficial pretty woman sequel. Pretty Woman 2 only works if she becomes a prostitute again.

Again, like a high class call girl. Pretty Woman 2 back to the streets. Pretty Woman 2, back to the streets. That's the only way that movie works. That sounds amazing. So he loses all of his money because he's a corporate writer. She's got to go back to him. He lost his money in.

She's like, let me chip out. And then she's like, no problem. She's back at the polo games. She's back doing the whole thing. That's the only way that works. Let me talk to that polo guy again. The fugitive, which I feel like they could have done. They did make it.

The U.S. Marshals. Right, but it wasn't officially the fugitive. So it's like a semi-sequel. I mean, it is. Harrison Ford's not in it, though. Okay. It's a sequel. Yeah.

True Lies, no sequel. No sequel. No sequel. No sequel, but now a sequel coming out. So basically, true lies is the only one that was the all-time no-brainer. Let's run this back. And they just didn't. And they didn't because Arnold got older and because James Cameron got rich.

Do you think that part of that? I mean, so Cameron's a huge part of it where it's like if he just... I think he's the entire part of it. If this is Rennie Harlan for True Lies 2, we don't care. So this movie was crucially made during a bond hiatus. Like they weren't making Bond movies. There was like a... Oh, so this goes to

number two. This is the best Bond movie the past 40 years. Let's go. So, but it is fully the fucking Big Mac Burger King Big Galt version of Bond. It is the American version of Bond where it's just like everything goes boom

even louder. Like the gadgets are crazier. First 15 minutes is a Bond movie. Yeah. The last 20 minutes are an Arnold movie. Right. See, crossed with Bond. Tom thought he had it with Mission Impossible. He actually ended up inventing a whole new genre.

He thought that that was the American Bond movie, but it's actually too heady. The bomb movies aren't as heady as the plot of the original Mission Impossible was. Like, they're not that heady when you look at them. It's about cool gadgets and one guy driving all of the action. This movie actually, when I thought about it last night, it was early on, and maybe you guys will be able to pull my code if I'm missing something, on the regular guy conundrum that we would see, like, go big later on.

In the 2000s. In the 2000s, the Sopranos breaking back. Like before this, I don't remember thinking, okay, well, what does Bond do when he goes home? Or what, like, what happens to the mob boss, like, at his house and his crib? A little bit of that in Goodfellas and stuff. There was some family stuff. But this one, part of the movie gets, like, pulled under by the fact that he's having personal problems. And that's what Schwarzenegger was interested in because this is based on a French movie, right?

Where it's like a spy's, like, home life. Based on a lot to tell. Yeah. And that was like Schwarzenegger was. like Schwarzenegger was like, what happens when he goes home? Right. Is that your last Arnold attempt?

Don't give up on it. I had you penciled down for more later. Yeah, it was a 1991 French comedy. Arnold saw it because it was suggested by his wife's brother. His mate. And he was like, whoa. And then all of a sudden, talk games camming into it.

What Bond movie do you like more than this? Skyfall. Casino Rail? Skyfall. Skyfall. Yeah. Interesting. I think I might like...

More than True Lies? Yes. Scott, okay, well, we're comparing two different types of movies. Yeah, but he has to be what Bond movie. I know. I know, but I'm saying I would say that Skyfall and Casino Royale

are better. So you're on an airplane. Yeah. And you're flying and there's only three movies. Skyfall, Casino Royale and True Lides and you're flying to Australia and it's an 18-hour flight. And the only time you can watch TV

is it has to be one of those three movies. Yeah? What's the order? Why am I going to Australia? Just go with the bed. What order? Because it's like... What's the one you watch first?

I watch Casino Royale and then Skyfall and then True Lies. So you're saving True Lies for last and you're a little groggy. Little palette cleanser. Yeah. Because Casino Royale and Skyfall are somewhat... True Lies is more fun than those movies. Those movies are even a little bit more dower and different than the regular bomb movies from the past. They're not as much fun as the bomb movies from the past.

Yeah. better movies probably than true lies. Where do you stand, Craig? On what is a better movie? True lies versus those two Bond movies. I think Skyfall and Casino are better. Okay. But again, they're playing different games.

It's not the same thing, yeah. But Craig, you're on a flight on Australia. Yeah, Craig, you're not coming back. The plane's going down, you have to save it by watching one film. I'm going Paxton, you have to. All right, so then that leads to the last one, Arnold's greatest performance ever, which you talked about. And I think, I think for me, the answer is yes. Yes, and I'm about as big of an Arnold fan as it gets.

And I've liked him in a lot of different things, but I think this is the one movie where he blended all the things that worked in other movies. In some ways, it's Arnold karaoke. But he's just, his accent isn't, like he's not leaning on it too much for comedic crutches. He's doing the action stuff, but he's not, like, completely overpoweringly gigantic.

He's able to do this stuff with his wife. He's doing, like, subtle comedy stuff. Tangoing with Tia. Yeah. He's tangoing. this is like, I think this is his acting Apex Mountain. Yeah, I mean, respectfully, I don't know if that's, that's like saying a ton, but yeah, like, I think, I, I, I love our own, like, Arnold Forks and Neger movies are really good, but I just don't, what are we, what are we talking? It's not like, my left foot.

It's like, he does a really good job in this movie. But, God damn, C.R. God damn! I didn't know I was here with Pauline K. I don't know if I was here, Lee Schrasberg. But that's the reason why, though, this is his best performance. Because it's the one that's asking him for the most. Listen, Arnold's not, he's not Sir Lawrence Olivia.

Yeah, I wasn't, I was just saying, yeah. He's one of the great popcorn actors of our lifetime, and this is probably his best movie. But there's also... Although I do love Total recall. Total recall. Total recall is good. So it's their total recall in the finals.

I think it's this, though, because he's asked to do a lot. There's a lot of charm, and then he has to be, like, super upset, and then he has to snap right back into being the coolest guy in the planet. So he's asking them for more too in Trulife. I've got to say I really, and I've talked about this in past pods, I really miss not having 2004's version of Arnold and Sly. I really feel like those, like in the NBA, we've always been able to replace our favorite players with the next generation of guys.

Is that supposed to be Vin Diesel on the Rock now, but they're just like... It was never the Rock. They're not delivering. He never got there. Vin Diesel only got there as Dom Torretto. Well, yeah, that's a very, you took a very strong stance on the Rock. He never got there. The Rock had a million bites at the Apple.

It just never happened. If you really look at it, the Rock, for a lot of the solo one-off rock movies that are supposed to be a big deal, a lot of times those movies don't work. Like, The Rock has things that he can do. Did he do skyscraper and San Andreas? Both of them. Chris, if you're flying in Australia and they have the Rock's entire catalog. Where would you start?

Walking Tall San Andreas? The Rock's in bad movies. I mean, when you compare them to those guys, I mean, you think of a movie like Cobra. Cobra felt like a big huge deal. Yeah, Stallone made bad movies that were better than any good rock.

Tango and Cash is probably better than any rock. Do you know the rock movie that I had the most invested in that just really left? Jungle Cruise? It was pain and gain. Oh, yeah, he's good right. But that was the one that I was like, this has to be it, right?

Like, I was like Michael Bay and it's, you know, I just really wanted more. Well, the goodness is he bought an NFL team in Ballers, so it all worked out. That movie just sucks. He's also in a Safty movie coming up. Well, maybe that'll be it. So this is Arnold's big comeback film after Last Action Hero, which C.R. mentioned. I have all the premiere magazines from the 90s, which I rarely get. Because sometimes we'll do movies, and I'm like, oh, they must have done it.

And they don't have the piece. This one, they're writing about Arnold. Arnold is one of their guys. Yeah. The last action hero feature is hilarious because it's all, it's basically like Arnold flying too close to the sun where it's like he was all over every aspect of this movie and he's deciding what was in the poster and this was Arnold's vision. And he doesn't. It's also a super expensive script, right? Right.

Well, he wanted to be post-violence. So there's like no guns in it. And he's like, this is, there was a toy. There was an action figure that he approved. And the whole article is about like Arnold has been our biggest. movie star, but now he's about to take the next step and become a movie corporation. And that movie bombed. And then in True Lies, it's like, you know what it worked?

Me being Arnold and a really good movie with James Cameron. And guess what? He shot a lot of people in True Lies. He sure did. Yeah. So it happens. I don't know. I was going to do a list, but I didn't, I thought it would be too complicated.

But the flew too close to the Sun movie. Oh, yeah. It's like the Michael Chimino, the Heaven's Gate. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like what those guys coming off something awesome, where they're just like, I can do anything. I'm superhuman. And now we're going to only shoot two hours a day for the whole thing.

And it ends up ruining your whole career. It didn't happen with Arnold, but a lot of people have that movie. Yeah, because there's the actor version of it where it's like you've misunderstood what people like about you or you're playing too much with what people like about you. Like when Bill Murray did Razor's Edge. It's like, no, no, we just want you to do comedy. And then there's the director one where it's just like Blocklooks now. Really feeling it.

Actors come back from it more than directors. do. Sometimes that movie for directors ends them, because it can be such a massive loss. But like Heaven's Gate. Heaven's Gate ended Chimino, but then, like, right after Drive, Gosseling did that, what was the

super violent, I go to? Only God for Gives. Yeah. And he get, people hated it, but Gossling bounced right back. Yeah. I didn't hate it. I like it. Yeah. Chris fucks with all Gossip movies. Yeah. So good. Yeah, the director is a tough one,

Because if they blow too much money, they make a bad movie. You get into their ass world. Yeah, you can't. You can't buy a drink in this town. Yeah, actors, they're almost like athletes. Like Arnold's 93 last action hero, that just becomes the year he got knocked out in round one.

It'd be like Embed if that only happened once in Embedd's career, except for every year. I'm getting sick of me, too. I'm not even in the 76. It's fucking July. Like, it's like, what do you do it? It'd be like a year where it did it make the issue? conference finals.

If he winds up figuring it all out on Team USA and being the most important component of a gold medal winning team, and you're like, I'm on vacation, I'm gonna fucking quit. If you don't stand before the man and say, like, I was wrong. After watching him against Canada, I don't think I'm going to have to worry about that moment.

Training wheels. He's just getting the rust off. He needs to get more than the rust off. He needs to get 15 pounds off. Jesus. Christ. Arnold goes. Do you write Jalen Brown's tweets, by the way?

Listen, Mackey's keeping him down. Arnold goes, from 87 on, Predator, Running Man, Red Heat, twins, total recall, kindergarten cop, Terminator 2, Last Action Hero, True Lies and Junior in 94 together. Yeah. It's quite a run. He's batting 90%. Junior was an if he went.

But it made money. Made money. Yeah, people liked it. And then in 90, he took 95 off, and in 96, he was Mr. Freeze and Batman. and Robin. He was a racer he did, and he did jingle all the way, so he did three.

And it was, it just didn't feel, it didn't feel totally the same. That was here, Stallone put out daylight, and it just felt like, oh, this era's kind of over. We're heading toward, I don't know, daylight. Cage, we're heading toward. Tom Cruise, kind of taken, but also

the action hero is changing, right? Yeah. Yeah. So the action hero is going from the big buff, like literally I, they'll rip a phone. could win any fight ever to normal guys. Normal guys. Tom Cruise, Matt Damon comes along a little while after. Nick Cage and Conner, all of that's changing a little bit.

I was going to save this, but I want to actually ask this now, is that when you watch True Lies Now, and I know obviously you love Arnold, we all love Arnold, but when you watch it, do you ever... Careful, Chris. Imagine the kind of actor that you're talking about, the later 90s normal everyday guy in the role of Harry. Let me tell you why it doesn't work for me. Like, Nick Cage, five years later?

Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck. It doesn't work the same way. Let me tell you why it doesn't work. It doesn't work to me because part of the comedy in the role is him. Is he so gigantic, he's so big, and he just gets cut down to size. It's almost as if, which they probably did, they tailored it around what Arnold could do. The team is built around him.

So with any other one of those guys, the movie, you can see their softness and their frailty a little bit more. Oddly enough, it would work with Stallone. Nobody's funnier with Truth Serum than Schwarzenegger. The truth sereneer. The reason I ask is because there's a fight scene in true lies, the bathroom fight scene. Yeah. Which just gets like ripped off slash homage paid to by Mission Impossible. Full-fledged rip-off.

So you watch the fight scene in true lies and you fully believe. that Arnold can fuck up a bathroom full of terrorists. In Mission Impossible, it's like, come on, man, 5-7 Tom Cruise is beating on all these guys who are rushing him in the bathroom. It's just a different way of looking at action scenes

of like, this is almost boring because he's so strong he's going to win versus like there's no way this guy could win this fight. Also, they change the way those scenes went. Like when Arnold's doing it, he's dodging, boom, boom, boom, grabbing somebody, throwing him into a wall. Like, every once in a while,

Tom Cruise just throws his whole body into the opponent. Yeah. Like he's scrapping and it makes it more dramatic, but it's still kind of more fun when you watch Arnold do it in the way. Henry Cavill was good. He was good. That's right. He gets the arms jacked up.

The Premier Magazine's summer preview from 94, I sent this to CR. It predicted the top 20 box office, and it predicted true lies number one. And then the rest of the top five was the Lion King, Maverick, the Flintstones, and I Love Trouble, which was a bomb. Oh, yeah. I love trouble.

And then it had the mass predicted at number 10, Forrest Gump at 11, and speed at 12. Oh, it fucked up. They're stupid. And for Forrest Gumpett said, could be the sleeper of the summer.

So as we always say, nobody knows anything. But yeah, they at least had the true lies. There was so much anticipation for this movie. Because Cameron had hit the point after Terminator 2 where it's like,

whatever that guy's doing, I'm there on Friday. But funnily enough, this one and I love trouble, both had like, man, I heard James L. Brooks's scrap the Prince soundtrack

and is just reshooting this movie because I had trouble supposed to be a musical with songs by Prince. Yeah. And they changed it. For this, it was like,

James Cameron's got people working on the 91st straight day without a break and he's taken over the Florida Keys. Like, this movie might never finish. And it's actually, I miss crazy sets like that.

Like, I'm sure that there was a lot of, like, stress involved. But I would, I wish we got more like reports where it's like, we're on day 126. Like, you know, this guy is still waiting for the sun to come out. It was the first film of the production budget of over 100 million. Interesting.

And that whole premiere magazine article in July is all about Cameron. And it's weird. It's like, this guy is a complete psycho. Everyone on the set is miserable. Nobody gets time off. All kinds of laws are being broken. They're wearing t-shirts. I'll never work on true lies.

too and shit like that and then everybody's like but I love the guy I'd work with them again it was like some crazy genius it was almost like it's like pack right leader yeah it's like he culture yeah I was thinking like an actual cult where you read about the cult and you go how do these people not yeah understand they're in a cult it seems like that was because of the results because of the results because they're like oh this all pays off blah blah blah blah am I the only person because I didn't run out and see true lives right away am I the only person that heard people raving about Tom Arnold's performance

in this movie to it made you curious about the movie. Like Tom Arnold... He was a joke at that point. He was a joke at that point. He was divorced from Roseanne's though. He was because of Roseanne. But he was divorced from Roseanne. She was busting his balls on the Tonight Show and making it seem like he couldn't

get it up and all this shit. And he was fatter, but he was skinnier for this movie. And I think it was kind of a revelation. I think you're right. And people were talking about like Tom Arnold is really awesome in this and he's funny and he's the perfect foil for Arnold Schwarzenegger and they should do more money. I heard your boy Roger Eber talking about this when they did the movie and I was like, oh my God. Like interesting, I didn't know that he was actually a thing until this movie.

If you only saw this movie, you would think he was one of the great comedic actors of that decade. And you would think Bill Paxton was the single funniest person on there. Yeah, you would think Bill Paxton. was Eddie Murphy. Yeah, you're like, did Bill Paxson? Did he make a billion dollars in comedies? All right, Jamie Lee Curtis.

You want to do this now or later, Van? It doesn't matter. It's going to happen. All right, we'll do it later. We'll save it. Yeah. Is there an Oscar case for her? I was looking at the best actress

and supporting actress. I'll just read you the best actress. It's bad. Jody Foster got nominated for Nell? Oh, no. Susan Saranda got nominated for the client. Okay. She's really good in the client.

Ran and Richardson and Tom and Viv. Jessica Lang and Blue Sky, she won. And Winona Ryder and Little Women, those were our nominees. That's a tough year. Put that there. And then for a supporting actress, Uma lost for Pulp Fiction. Helen Mirren and the Madness of King George,

Rosemary Harris, and Tom and Viv. Diane Weist won for Bullets Over Broadway, and Jennifer Tilly got nominated. For what? For what? That unfortunately got edited. I think it was that, wasn't that that movie she made with Joey Pants? Bound?

Yeah. I think she got nominated for Boundt. Okay. Okay. Now, you should just say, you got your priors, you hate Nell. Nell is one of the worst movies ever. So that would be your slot, right? Nell was like critically acclaimed.

I don't know what we were doing in 94. No, it was, well, you're talking about Jennifer Tilly? Yeah. Bullets over Broadway. Oh, she was also in that, yeah. Back when we just gave Woody Allen two Oscar nomination slots for whatever movie he made. I don't know. Would you have thrown her supporting actress, Bones, CR?

I think she would get actress because she's co-lead with Schwarzenegger. They share a title card in this. I don't think so. No? Okay. I mean, she was really good, but I don't think she... She's a lot, man. She's no-nell.

She should have talked in that no language. Nell going crazy. No, my, no, pop-de-b-b-b-p-p-p-p-p- But you remember this era where, like... For the people listening, because we keep mentioning now. It's like only I think that's funny. It's just really funny. People, go to YouTube and watch a scene from now and ask yourself how this movie was released in theaters 30 years ago. It's a passion project, man.

I was certainly passionate. Jamie Lee underrated, overrated, or properly rated, T.R. At this point? Yeah. I think properly rated. I think she's gotten a lot of flowers because of, well, also a lot of derision, but a lot of flowers. Dan, I'm going to give you her best eight movies ever. Halloween, trading places, true lies, fish,

called Wanda, My Girl, Freaky Friday, Halloween H2O, and everything everywhere all the time, whatever that movie was called. All at once, yeah. She just is like a really dependable B plus A minus list star. I think she's, I think her IMDB is a little better than what the talent was, to be honest. What do you mean? Like, those are really good movies. But she holds her own in all those movies.

She's in the greatest horror movie ever. Yeah, but she's good in it, though, is what I'm saying. So what I'm saying is. So you're saying she's Dak Prescott. You put it kind of a little bit. Again. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. That's actually not bad, though.

I know you're just trying to hate on everyone you can. I'm not trying to hate on that. This is a new category, me. What am I hating on? What quarterback is this? Greg, has Dag Prescott won more than one career playoff game? Can you look that up for me? What's the answer is one?

What is Dak Prescott's Halloween? Come on. Throwing for like 5,000 yards or something like that. Come on, come on. What is it? I'm saying it's not Dak Prescott. So she's better than that. She's in one of your 10 favorite movies.

Is she Matt Prescott? She's Dakwrest? Well, first of all, she's won a championship. So she has to be somebody. Halloween is a title. Well, Halloween's a title. Matt Ryan won an MVP,

which is like an Oscar? Yeah, so she's Matt Ryan. Maybe. That's not bad. It feels weird, though. The only reason why I say that is because in all of those movies that you're talking about,

Fish Call Wanda, that's a great cast. She holds her own in the movie. She plays Wanda. But she holds her own in the movie. Every single, she never gets overwhelmed by the talent around her. She makes the movie better.

in every single movie that you're talking about, including trading places. She's Matt Stafford? Eli Manning? Eli Manning. That's good. Eli. Eli Manning.

She's Eli Manning. She's Eli Manning. She's got all that. I'm glad we figured this out. Can we go? 100 million dollar budget made a $378 billion. Third biggest movie, 94. One Oscar nomination, Best Visual Effects.

Our guy Raj, what do you think? three three yeah three stars I personally think this is a three and a hafer a little upset

with Rush okay you don't like it but he did say it's stuff like that we go stuff like that we go to Arnold Schwarzenegger

movies for and true lies has a lot of it laugh out loud moments when the violence is so cartoonish we don't take it seriously

and yet we are amazed that it's inventiveness in audacity he did call plot perfunctory. It's nonsense. It doesn't make a lot sense.

I'm sorry if I seem a little bit distant right now because I'm imagining... Now, you're in your weird fucking... All you care about is House of the Dragon. That's fine. I'm imagining... We're getting like... What an accusation! No, this House of the Dragon, and it's like, oh my God,

somebody killed somebody! We got to record on late Friday afternoons more often. This is great. I am imagining us going back through every rewatchables just to put in what quarterback this is. Oh my God. But it would be funny if we made it match to when the rewatchable was recorded. Like, that's Brett Huntley.

Pro bowler. Who's that dude who took over for Lamar? Holy. Tyler. Tyler. Tyler. There is also, Brett Huntley was on the Packers. Yeah, from UCLA.

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First one. The opening James Bond scene. We get to meet Juno Skinner, Chris. Yeah. International art dealer. Magnificent, isn't it? Yes, quite. I thought I knew most of Khaled's friends,

but I don't believe I've met you before. No, we have met because I certainly would remember. Rangquist. Here is Ranguist. Juno Skinner. Juno Skinner. Juno Skinner. Come on.

Come on. Juno Skinner, arts and antiquities dealer, specializing in ancient Persia. This is Persian, if I'm not mistaken. Very good. Sixth century BC, to be exact. Do you like the period? I adore it.

Here's my invitation. You could see the tango. You could see Arnold headbutting two Dobermans. We had to see skiing machine gun guys. That feels the most bonding. Yeah. Yeah. It's also really funny that Cameron to do that out, the exterior shot where you see the chalet, it was like, he used half footage from the Alps, half footage from Lake Tahoe and footage from somewhere else and put it all together.

And I'm like, just shoot one place. Nobody cares. And he was like, no. We got to match three different locations. I like when he does the can you lean back a second and shit it's like two more guys When I see the skiing machine gun guys I always feel like

When you see people like that in a movie Like what a waste of great talent Right those guys? Yeah like you think about that job Where you have to You have to learn how to shoot guns accurately While skiing You have to learn how to ski

Then you have to learn how to combine those two skills I'm guessing that's like six seven months Isn't that an Olympic sport? Yeah You ski and then you shoot the biathlon? Yeah, the biathlon. But these guys, they're going fast. They're making machine guns.

So, like, one of those guys, let's say one of the guys' names is Hans. Hans goes home that night. It's like, how was work, honey? It's like, it's great, man. I'm really figuring out the shooting somebody as I'm on skis. You know what the funny thing is? And then, like, Arnold kills him in two seconds. The reality is you're talking about that guy.

But really, that's an executive problem. It's some ball somewhere going, you know what? It's management. It's management. Know what we need because guys are coming in here. They're getting away. You know, we need somebody who can ski. We need guys who can shoot at the same time.

So they go back to the guy who runs the house and they're like, he got away from the skiing machine gun guys. And the guy's like, fuck! He thought that was going to work. We spent eight months on this. Do you think for those guys, it's like the longest yard where it's like, let's just get football players. We can teach him how to act?

Do you think it's like, let's get skiers we can teach him how to fight or let's get soldiers we can teach him how to ski. No, I didn't think it's the skiers. It's probably skiers. These guys were good skiers and you teach them how to shoot, which is why they can't hit shoot. Okay. I like that scene.

I really like this scene. The Georgetown Mall bathroom fight. Where do you stand on the cigarette sunglasses combo with the cigarette pack, the gadget? I would get confused about where something was. I feel like that would give me a headache immediately. I can't even wear like reading glasses. Like, ah, fucking. Somebody behind me.

Mission Impossible just rips it off. It's a flat-out rip-off. I think the bathroom kind of looks like. McCrory would say I paid homage to it, right? Sure. Actually, I have that once age as best. That scene comes back a bunch of times. Yeah.

That bathroom fights. They do it in Bad Boys. Maybe Bad Boys was before this. Every time it happens, I get grossed out when somebody's face gets dunked in a urinal or a toilet. Yeah. Always gets me. Always disgusting.

Yeah. There's no, they could be cleaning that toilet for like two hours. I still feel bad for the actor. Like, oh, man, I got to shoot my urinal face scene now. Jesus. This is a funny, also, like, when you're watching this, it sets the level of the violence that we're going to get. It's pretty intense.

Like, dude's getting shot with AKs at close range. Yeah. Just blowing explosions, the whole nine, yeah. Right into one of the best chase scenes ever filmed the Lewis in D.C. A horse versus a motorcycle. This police horse, just fortunate. Yeah. This police horse turned into a secretariat for some reason.

And it's our, by the way, it's the first inkling that we get that Harry Tasker can do anything. Yeah. Well, we already know he can speak multiple languages. He speaks multiple languages, but there's no mode of transportation that he hasn't mastered.

He's a master of all forms of marksmanship, of fighting styles. Flying. He can be a pilot. He can do everything. But impressed Chris. Everything. He still has James Bond in the finals against him.

You're like a, is it because Bond's English? Yeah, that's right. I'm pulling for the English national team so I'm voting for mine. If England ever plays America in the World Cup, you know, C.R.'s a root for. No. I didn't say England.

No. He's deep down. I'm going to vote for the United States of America. Just move there. I feel really patriotic right now. One of my favorite things, this should be at what's age the worst that it's not.

I think the obvious stunt double for Arnold is so fucking funny. That's in the what's age the worst. I have to. It's a what's age of the worst, but it's also hilarious. It's so bad. It's every scene, though.

He's wearing like an Arnold mask, though, right? Like, on the horse, there's a scene of the... I mean, Arnold almost died riding this horse in the filming. But I think there's a shot in this scene where he's going through the fountain where it looks like really disturbing because it looks like someone wearing an Arnold helmet.

Yeah. It's weird Cameron is so much money that he's not like, ah, the blue-ray for true lives is coming out. But he's literally inventing that technology as he goes along. I think it's funny, because it makes me think of the 80s and 90s because we had that shit all the time.

The super obvious stunt doubles were hilarious. It's something that we used to be used to that we just got, it just never happens anymore. What's your favorite one ever? I have a clear number one favorite ever. There's a lethal weapon one where it's clearly just this stunt guy wearing a mullet for Mel Gibson. And he has to crash through like a window or something like that.

I can't. We've done one where we were fucking crying with laughter. Which one? the best one ever. This is why I like heat slightly more than you. Oh, because it's Rollins. The Pacino turns into

a big burly Asian guy for two seconds. I don't remember this one. A big burly Asian guy dressed in Vincent Head tackles Henry Rollins. I don't remember that.

And I don't know how Michael man, I don't know how they left it in the movie. Oh my God. All of a sudden he's Chong Lee for like a second and a half. Yeah. Yeah.

And it's like, It's definitely not Al Pacino. They must have tried it with Al and realized that he had smoked so many cigarettes that day. Now they won't do it, whatever. And the Irishman, where they clearly needed one during the fight scene outside, they just let a 150-year-old Robert De Niro kick that. I'm all for using subtle CGI to make the old classics better. Like, I've talked about Rocky One where there's just clear shots of empty seats. And you just want an AI populated?

Just fucking spend $25,000 bucks. Put some fake fans in there. Jesus, we have all this shit now. The pool jump, which I think, first of all, it's almost at what's age or worse, because when it happened in the movie in 1994, it was like the craziest thing.

My mind is nothing out of my ears. Yeah, like nothing had happened like that in a movie. Now, Fast and Furious was doing that five times a movie, something like that. Yeah. Just raise the bar to like an unapproachable level. It's just inconceivable that somebody would even think to try to do that and the guy lands in the pool.

First of all, they've got a horse and a motorcycle in an elevators racing up to the roof. Like, that's just, on its face is pretty crazy and funny. This whole scene is legitimately fucking bat-saltz crazy. You wonder, because, like, you know, there's that one anecdote where Oliver Stone got high and then he starts riding, doing the whole thing, and natural killer. You wonder if they were serious with this. Okay, we're going to take the horse, send the guill in the horse, we're going to put the horse in the elevator, put the horse, we're going to make the horse jump.

The whole night, the shit just keeps ratcheting up and ratcheting up. But the horse got spooked, right? Like, that's why they didn't go through with, like, the horse follow. Like, I don't think the horse... I think they were pretending they were doing, like, a run-through. Because this story is Arnold almost got thrown off and thrown 90 feet, and the stunt man saved them. Which, I don't know how apocryphal that is.

Yeah. It seems like there was some truth to it. I find it hard to believe they would have been risking Arnold being thrown off a building. Good horse acting, though. Yeah. I have just a step on a nitpick. I just think the elevator breaks. Elvarez weighs, what, 1,800 pounds?

I was wondering about this. How much capacity is it like 6,000 pounds? How much does the horseway, Chris? Between 900 and 1,200 and 1,000. And what's the average elevator? It's fine. And there's three other people in there? The elevator is, what, 3,500 people?

So that's 3,500 pounds? Yeah, because three people aren't 600 pounds. Yeah. residential elevators 500 to 1,500 commercial passenger elevators 2,500 to 5,000 that was on the edge that was like a It was commercial it was a commercial it's a commercial it's a commercial It's a freight hotel I think very conceivable that thing just breaks Because of a horse

Yeah also think it would have been funny if the horse shit in the elevator I thought was a huge best opportunity toss in Arnold and two more people that's another Yeah, 600 pounds They're over capacity it's a miracle that thing went out I wish you were Jim Carrey now I needed to make a giant dump right here on this woman's head Same elevators in the line of fire. I know, it's so good, man. This is definitely Apex Mountain for glass elevators.

Should we just do a rewatchable's video shoot or we just go to famous locations? Sure. Because I would love to go to that hotel and just ride the elevator and then just cut us into... Should we go to a hotel and just ride the elevator? Just ride the elevator and film it. Should we go to the book depository again? That was great. I love that one.

We could go to a couple of the heat houses. Yeah. The Pulp Fiction Diner. Arnold dangling off the roof is good, too. Get in the horse to back up. That seems to look. Next one, Harry overhearing his wife talking to Simon, and he tells Tom Arnold,

Helen is having an affair. And he goes, Welcome to the club! Welcome to the club, man. Nobody thinks it could happen to them the first time, buddy. Same the exact thing happening. wife number two. Remember?

I had no idea nothing's going on, right? I come on one day and the house is completely empty. And I mean, completely empty. She even took the ice cube trays out of the freezer.

What kind of a sick bitch takes the ice cube trays out of the freezer? And Tom Arnold proceeds to be hysterical. He's even super funny before that. He's just...

What kind of a sick bitch takes the ice cream trays as a freezer? Which apparently Roseanne did in real life and they worked it in the script. Yeah. He told James Cameron. Stop cheering me up.

Next one, Chris's favorite scene. Arnold test drives the Corvette as Bill Paxton raves about how hot his wife is, not knowing it's his wife. The vet makes him wet. The level of insane shit that he's saying in this scene, he said, like, I've seen the scene so many times, but obviously sucks sardoleef blower. And then the other one, man.

she's like all these babes you get their pilot lit they can suck start a leaf blower oh god she's got the most incredible body and a pair of titties make you want to stand up and beg for buttermilk ass like a 10 year old boy ass like a 10 year old boy

what the fuck is what the fuck is happening bro like this such a crazy I think it's kind of unlike any other scene in James Cameron's filmography where he just lets somebody cook for five minutes like this.

Do you think Bill Paxton was just like, clear out, clear out. Clear the side of court for me. My favorite thing is when he's like, what's your secret, man? He's like, oh, I can't tell you. And then the next cut is like, he's drinking a Pepsi and eating tacos. And he's like, here's what you do. It's all you're a spy. Great stuff.

Rating Paxton and Jamie Lee on the trailer is fun. The hotel seduction scene, let's clear out for a van the way we just cleared out for Bill Paxton. Okay, so the category is called most rewatchable scene. Yeah. And so there is no argument what scene is the most rewashable scene. This is a Hall of Fame milk, First Team White Girl scene right here. It's a heart stopper.

It could be used to do anything. You could bring Dr. Umar Johnson in and sit them down and you put it on. He might reconsider. She exploded. out of nowhere. Yeah. God rest, daddy's soul.

He was like, what the hell is? What's going on for that? I'm like, that's Jamie Lee Kurz. Oh, she always been like that. Yeah, because you remember from trading places.

Yeah, she always been like that. Just out of nowhere, perfectly shot. And really, the last stand of Jamie Lee, what she just had to remind these motherfuckers real quick.

And then went back into Momville. Right. Started selling, like, what was it? Yogurt to make you go to the bathroom. It was activia. Activia. This was the last stand

before Activia. After this, it was over. And then she won an Oscar, and she's also in the bear. She's amazing. But I'm saying, for the Jamie Lee that I came up with. I like last thing. This is like the 98 finals for MJ. This is it. One more time. She did that scene, and then she went back to the locker

with pride holding the trophy. And everybody was, like, literally, see, y'all got to get in there now, so it's different. But everybody was like, God, damn, because there was a lot of people that were coming up that didn't know she had it like that. And a lot of people that were like, right, because it's 12 years after trading places. Also, perfect, which

is on Tobe, and I may or may not have watched four weeks. I really, I love the idea, though, that you're, like, stumbling out of a movie theater, Baton Rouge with, like, other 15-year-olds and be like, I didn't, I didn't know she had it like that. That's true. It's true. A bunch of guys. Let's go back and video games. But look, you know what? The metamorphosis that happens, like, just before she goes in. When she pulls the dress apart. When she jamies herself, she pulls the dress apart. Does a lipstick. She does a lipstick, and then automatically you're like, oh, shit. But then she even goes to another level when she gets out of the dress.

That is a Hall of Fame. I can post that scene right now and say, I bet y'all don't know, didn't know that Jamie Lee Curtis had it like that, 2 million views on easily. I would encourage people to go to TB and watch Jamie Lee and Perfect just for the first 10 minutes of the movie. There's a... Because she's... That was her all-time.

Interesting. That movie has no plot, by the way. Perfect? Yeah, she's just in aerobics and... John Chabotas is a Rolling Stone reporter. He's like, I'm going to write a story about how aerobics are the, these places are the new singles bars. It's literally one of those movies. It's awful.

It's terrible. But it's literally about how attractive the two leads. Right. Jan Wenner plays the Rolling Stone editor, but his name isn't Jan Wenner. It's like Rob Johnson. It's like, why are you just Yon Wetter? It's Rolling Stone. I would just say that my favorite part of this, other than the JLC, just out of her mind, performance is,

how creepy it is that Harry's got the voic-coder on the masking his voice and being like we're now take off your stress you know it's like it's how much of those costs you are just get those on Amazon I'll send you a link yeah

the truth serum scene is just fantastic because we get Arnold and Tia Carrera who we haven't even talked about she's coming there's a reason is there anything you'd like to tell me before we start. I'm going to kill you pretty soon. I see. How exactly? First, I'm going to use you as a human shield. Then I'm going to kill this guard over there with a Patterson Troika on the table.

And then I was thinking about breaking your neck. And what makes you think you can do all that? You know, my handcuffs? Hmm. I picked them. Then I'm going to kill this God over there. The Trouca on the table. And then I was thinking about breaking your neck. The fight scene's great. She says I married Rambo. And then we get Arnold against 100 terrorists.

And he somehow wins. It's just a wonderful 10 minutes. That whole deal, he gets out there. He's shooting everyone. The coolest shit ever when he steps on the gun and it kicks up into his hands. and he just starts deading people. All it is, in front of his wife, we had no idea he was a spy.

As of like 10 minutes ago. No idea. She's such badass. Florida Keys chaos. Truck's blown up. The truck that falls off the edge with three terrorists. The catfighted in limo. T. and Jamie Lee.

Harry rescues Helen. And this is what we talked about earlier. How the hell do that scene? Yeah. Because this was 1994. We didn't have scenes like this where a limo is driving down a Florida Keys bridge and Arnold's on a helicopter pulling his wife out and it really seems like they're doing it, which apparently they did a version of it.

Well, Jamie Lee does do some of the most of that stunt and Cameron was also in the helicopter like doing it with her. I think the thing that's so cool about this is there's a picture of the filmmakers like the production team sitting on the model version of the seven mile bridge that they used with like the model trucks. and it's really cool. They're sitting in like a water tank or whatever they're doing

wherever they shot this and you're like looking at it you're like holy shit that's what they filmed this on like that's this sort of magic trick that movie making can do sometimes but then those are actually Harrier Jets

like there's this mixture of like invention and also excess that he's able to rent multiple Harrier Jets for the production and having them fly so close to the helicopter.

It's just insane. Yeah, it's part of the brilliance of the movie. He's just inventing shit that we hadn't seen yet. There's a version of this where Jamie Lee accidentally falls to her death, and then it's like, disgraced former hit director James Cameron is quietly trying to put his career together. It's where greatness lives, bro.

Yeah. Right at the edge of. Saving Dana from the plane, which also is probably the most unrealistic part of the movie because his 14-year-old daughters just hanging on the front of a plane for 10 minutes. firing a terrorist off of a missile through a building and into a helicopter. You're fired. But even... You're fired.

I have nitpicks with the whole thing, but, you know, Dana. Dana and the wife acclimate to being... Spy family. Like pretty quick way. I have some thoughts on that. Yeah. The one year later, the great ending with the tango, that's it. What do you got for most rewatchable Sierra?

I have the motorcycle horse chase through the marriot, up the elevator, and then off of the roof. Yeah. I have it as well. I have Jamie Lee Curtis's day. obviously, but I do want to say that when they're first walking into a megasector, and Tom Arnold is just going a mile a minute with the jokes. She's like, she's probably stealing the money to pay for the most. Or drugs.

Or drugs. He goes just open the fucking door. That whole thing makes me laugh. But when I tell you that there was a VHS that I had one time that had assorted scenes on there. And the Jamie Lee Curtis dance was one of the scenes by itself, not even the whole movie. I had it on there. Was it was the VHS called White Girl Hall? fan.

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1994 thing about this movie? I'll give you the nominees. Tom Arnold. Tia Carrera Tom Arnold telling Arnold her parents are Axel Rose and Madonna

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We never get to give it out that much, but we get to give it out for this movie, to Tia Carrera. As Juno Skinner, a wealthy and evil arts and antiquities dealer specializing in ancient Persia. Yeah. because these people exist.

She's the Bond Girl. It's like she is like the... Dr. Christmas Jones, Nuclear Physicist. Yeah, it's Goldfingers assistant. Denise Richards, yeah. Most unused resource of the 1990s, Tia Carrera. She's in this and Wayne's World. I could have done five more with her.

I didn't like her in this. No? Did you like her in general? I did. But I liked her showdown in a little Tokyo. Okay, she's a little Tokyo, Dolf Lundering, the Brandon Lee, rest in peace. I love her dad.

I loved her in all those. And this one, she kind of just seemed like, this seemed like they needed somebody. Like, I have her later on. It seemed like she was going for Lucy Lou type of Kill Bill, mysterious badass. And she couldn't quite get there for me. She had the one tick. She has, like, the one move in this movie where she's just always, like, bottle of, like, a glass of champagne. Despite the fact that it's an incredibly, you know, anxious scene.

Yeah. That seemed to be the sumptial of it. But she enjoyed herself on this movie, so. She's a Generation X icon. There she has definitely. Point that out. Beloved. What's age the best?

Hot action movie characters named Juno Skinner. Counterterrorism agencies named Omega Sector. Omega Sector. Last line of defense. What do you got, C.R. I think truth serum in movies

is a great, great. I have truth serum as well. Like, more, we should have more truth serum. Should that just be a Netflix show? It's like season three of truth serum is out. Would you actually give it to people for real, though? Yeah. You just give it to marriage.

couples. Give it to married couples for real. Truth Serum. They should, like, we should do it. They should shoot us full of truth serum. It's like, I've always preferred Colin Coward to you, Bill. He's up at the monologous. I got to be honest, you're not a bad idea for a show. Truth Serum. You get some truths from people. You put them on the... Yeah, Craig, cut this out.

We're making this. Can I actually ask? Truth Serum is real, right? I don't think Truth Serum's real. I don't know if it's... I don't know if it's... I don't know if it's... I don't know. I love how much we're, like, turning you to be like, how many times can an elevator hold? I don't know how effective it actually is,

but Sony and Pentothal like something that's actually called Truth Ceremony is a real thing. I don't know if it really works. I don't think it works like it worked in this movie. Yeah. Paxton's 1959 Corvette going for $17,5009. Wait, how much did it go through?

That's what it was for sale for in the used car lot. 17,5009. Oh, see, I have a question about that because I freeze-framed and it said it was a, I thought it said 175-99. No, okay. Okay. Let's just talk about Paxton for a second. For what stage the best?

Yeah. Because... We're not doing Bill Paxton a month, by the way. I know we did two in a row. Maybe we are, though. I'm not ruling it out, but I'm not ruling it. It's not only the scene at the used car lot, and it's not only when he's pretending to be the super side with Jamie Lee,

but the scene of him at the dam when he's gotten caught and he thinks they're going to kill him is the fucking funniest thing. We're just like, I got a little dick! And he pisses himself. I'm nothing. I'm navelin. I have to lie to women to get laid.

And I don't score much. I got a little dick. It's pathetic. Oh. Oh, God. Oh. Would a spy pee himself? Uh.

Huh. Oh, God. Please. I'm not worth a bullet. Oh, mercy, sir. Get the fuck out of you, huh? Just beat it. Then the callback

where he pisses himself again and that happens every time. Yeah. Like, yeah, I didn't really know he was capable of that kind of comedy. He's as funny as he's ever been in his career in the whole fucking movie. It's incredible.

The Cameron and John Landau connection was born on this movie. John Landau just passed away. A lot of people. You can kind of tell when the feedback, when people in the movie industry dies, it goes a couple different levels. That one, it was like it felt like everybody was talking about it. We haven't really talked about Crimson Jihad yet or their communication strategy, but I did think that the battery failing on the camcorder during the middle of the video is hilarious. How about taser guns that shoot people unconscious for short amounts of time, short amounts of time?

Taser gun? With that thing they shot, Arnolly and Jamie Lee with. That's like a, some kind of. of injectable, right? Yeah, those little side things. They only have in movies. That's not a taser. That was an injectable.

Or whatever. Yeah, taser injectable guns. What are those called? It's not a taser. What are those called? You're talking about like a trance? You're having a stroke. We keep saying it's not, you know, yeah, yeah.

It's a laser. Are you guys looking for the word tranquilizer? Yeah, tranquilizer. He doesn't need the word tranquilizer. He's obviously on one right now. Yeah. It's a trankth art. Trankth art.

Yeah. Trank Gunnard. Yeah. Taser. Tazer. I'm here with President Putin. Oh my God. Cameron really got to destroy the bridge.

Yeah. And it's still destroyed to this day. So I thought the bridge was a model. No, there was an actual bridge. There's kind of a dead bridge. Oh. And they shot it with missiles? They blew it up.

They blew it up. They rebuilt some of the parts. Is that the bridge and roadhouse in the new roadhouse? I don't know. There's a lot of weird Florida Keys bridges. Okay. Here's what's aged the best. Are you shorter?

Are there? Nobody's going to push back. There's a lot of weird. Florida bridges. Florida's got long bridges. It's a long bridge place. You've been to Miami. I've been to Miami a bunch.

Some of these weird long bridges. You're like, where the fuck am I going? I don't know that they're weird. They're over water. So they're pretty useful. Yeah. Arnold got top billing in his contract And then it was gonna be the title

And then it was gonna say Jamie Lee Curtis And Cameron finished the film And he realized it was really a husband-wife film And he called Arnold And he said Can we move Jamie Lee with you Before the movie in the credits

And Arnold's like That's a great idea Yeah And Curtis really appreciated it You know what? There's 42 bridges In the Florida Keys Oh, see? Are they weird?

37 of them are weird C.R. What do you have for the Great Shack Order Award? I think it's probably unlike most of the times we give out this award where it's like because of the lighting or the framing. It's just the it's the ingenuity of the final Harrier Jet skyscraper sequence. Yeah.

Just because it's like a 45-foot model that they use so that they could turn it around and stuff. And really feels like it's on a skyscraper. Yeah. I'm with you. I had Jamie hanging from the helicopter. That's good. That's just such an iconic scene. Dan of Thieves, Benny Hahn,

where it's scene stealing location, either what CR just said or the bridge. The bridge just looks cool. Bridge looks cool. The watch out of the bridge. The Marriott Elevator. Kid Cuddy pursued a happiness award for Best Needle Drop is whatever that saw in there playing for the dance.

John Hyatt. Was that playing, that wasn't playing practically in the film, right? That was just for the audience. In the scene, in the movie, quiet in there, right? Yeah.

That's the weirdest part of that whole scene. Is it weirder than him speaking fluent Arabic and French? Yeah. Well, that's a recording. That's not him. But she's dancing. She's dancing to nothing. The music, maybe it's in her head, because she's dancing like she's dancing to that song.

Correct. But no one presses play in the movie. There's no boombox. Big Kuhna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink. I like Simon's Chinese restaurant. I always wondered, like, what the Chinese restaurant proprietors thought of Simon. It's like, this guy brought another lady in and handed her a briefcase.

This fucking guy. Bring him his sweet and sour chicken. This guy is such a loser. The fucking people walk through the door. He goes for his fake gun. He's playing it up so fucking much. It's good. The Butch's Girlfriend Award Weeklink of the film.

So a few options here. What do you got, T.R? I think it's probably that I would imagine number one seed here is Tia. That's what I had. But I think through no fault of Art Malik's, I think the main villain does not get like much of an arc. You know, it's kind of, he's on 11

and he never really adjusts very much. The moment you, the first time you see him, the big reveal where he smacks the shit out of her twice in a row. Yeah. He's there for the rest of the time. And they don't really go into it as much. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, with Kyle Brandt and I did the, um, the bad guy in the, dumb action movies we love like the scale 1 to 10 and the guy from Powers Booth and Sudden Death I thought was a 1 out of 10 The guy from Toy Soldiers is bad But then it goes up and then Hans Gruber's a 10

This guy's not even a 1 Oh you think he's subpowers booth He's just not I don't even There's nothing But I'll be honest I think that it could have been a good part I understand what quarterback would he be Yeah

I didn't plan Nathan Peterman. Practice squad. Peterman. It's just they don't even, they don't even attempt to try to have him be interesting. It's weird. It's a weird choice.

You know what's funny, though, and this is in, like, what's age the worst? I know Will it gets to it. But this is a very pre-9-11 movie, like a super duper, and was protesting. Even so, yeah.

Ridiculously pre-9-11 movie? It's a what age-the-worst. So they didn't want to, they prop, those guys are one note for a reason, because at the point at the end of it, they become like bumbling and cartoonish and buffoonish and all that. Which seems like that was his intention.

Yeah. But, yeah, I was thinking this is the end of some weird era. You think of Back to the Future and how the terrorists are used in that movie. And it's just the tail end of that. Yeah. And then the movie ended it to me? Starts to change in the 90s. I mean, even top gun, it's not terrorists, but it's like with the evil.

Yeah. But this was wrestling was like this. Yeah. We had all these wrestling stereotypes. It was bad. It was just what the 80s, 90s were like. But like the movie that ended it to me was the same. siege.

Because when the siege came out, when a trailer dropped to the siege, they showed those guys praying in it and everyone went, no good, good, bad, can't do it, we've gone too bad, we've gone too far. And so they kind of changed the dynamic of it after that, but it was pretty common during this time. And it even changed in, as you know, wrestling reflects in real life a lot of times. But even in wrestling, they kind of got away from the stereotype stuff by mid-90s. You go to the late 70s, early 80s, and it's Mr. Fugent.

Mr. Saido, it's Nikolai Volkov. That changed, though, after Booker T. It's the chic. Inevertently called Hulk Hogan the N-word. And that was a bridge too far. That was it. You're coming for you. And like you, that was a bridge too far. A weird Florida bridge too far. Did we do Vincent Chase?

What do you mean? The Vincent Chase Award for, are we sure this character was really good at their job? No, we can do it for this. What do you got? Spencer Trilby? Charlton Heston? I'm sure we're going to get to Heston. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a different answer for weak link of the film.

Let me guess. The daughter. No. Oh, interesting. What am I like a freaking daughter misogynist? A daughter misogynist? Okay. Yeah, go for just whatever.

Is the interrogation scene of Jamie Lee is too long. It's literally 11 minutes. I thought that was the most human part of the whole movie. Yeah. It's too long. It's 11 minutes. 11 minutes is fucking long. To mention it in rewatchables,

it really ties the whole movie together. It's just too long. It's where he finds out she's not actually cheating. When he finds out like what's actually long. She becomes a 3D character. Let's get through it. Okay. What's age the worst?

I don't love the score in the beginning and I don't love the opening graphics. The opening graphics are bad. Change those on camera when you go back for the Blu-ray. Hit those. So it's 1994. And Arnold's 14-year-old daughter is riding a motorcycle and listening to Cream? Why isn't she listening to Nirvana or Audio Slave?

James Cameron, respectfully, sometimes seems like... Oh, audio slave wasn't ready yet. One of my thing's soundgarden. Kind of guy who has, like, 12 songs on a playlist, and those are the only 12 songs he's ever heard. Can I say something? There's no way she's listening to Cream. I know.

It's like a zero percent chance. But the only reason why I get slight pushback is because when I was in middle school, which was around that same time, it was the white kids that, like, introduced me, to all they were so into the doors. Yeah, they were listening

to all of that stuff. It's 94, man. She's listening to SoundGar. Yeah, the music is like the never been better than it was in 94. I patched Charlton Heston. He's just bad.

I mean, if he was in the movie more, he would have been the weakling, but he's really only in it for four minutes. He's doing a Nick Fury impression right there. It's bad. Yeah, the real Nick, well, not the movie. And the impact of like, oh my God, Charlton Heston in this movie,

30 years later is not aged. It was a stunt casting. It was just, you know. I wrote down the terrorists aren't fun and they all kind of suck. What are the lamest terrorists and great movies? Raiders, this movie, Back to the Future.

Raiders? Anybody else? Nazis. Nazis? Yeah, they're not really. Well, I mean, bad guys. Bad guys. Oh, the lamest bad guys?

Yeah, some sort of because the Raiders, the Nazis. Well, Billock is kind of he's French. Yeah, he's French. But doesn't he's worth for the Nazi? Anybody that works for a Nazi is a Nazi, right? No?

I don't know if this is the right platform to... Probably. Discuss that. Take two. But no, that's a good question. Who else? What are the other bad guys who suck in really good movies? Just like terrorists that should have been like way better action movie characters.

You know what kind of takes all the air out of it is in Die Hard when Alan Rick Bidn is like dictating all of the groups that he once released. Yeah. It sounds, I think he says Crimson Dawn, which is basically Crimson. in Giav, which makes it seem so much funnier. Yeah. Almost every bad guy in the Beverly Hills Cop movie sucks. Oh, that's a good one. You're right.

You like Victor? I do like Victor Maitland. So whatever. Could have been anyone. Like, they're all kind of copy paste. It kind of, whatever, you know. There's a pretty brutal story about Elijah Dushku from this movie. Yeah, this is the, this is an all-timer for what's age the worst.

but she said she was sexually molested by the stunt coordinator, Joel Kramer, on the set. Yeah. And that she got hurt doing a stunt after it happened, almost like he, that was she alleged. Retribution. She was trying to hurt, hurt her in some way. It's not awesome. Schwarzenegger and Cameron and Jamie Lee Curtis all, like, stood by her. Yeah.

Like, yeah. It's pretty brutal. But when the Me Too, that year, when it really kicked in, it was one of the first stories that became a story. And then you mentioned that the film received a lot of criticism for its portrayal of Middle Easterns. I can't speak. Middle Easterners and treatment of female characters, which is interesting.

Yeah. I think it's a pretty, it's a pretty grisly movie in that regard. I mean, it probably wouldn't fly today, for sure. Yeah, I was just looking at it with Kalika, and then she loves the movie.

And she's like, when he walks in, he's like, can I have a word with you? She goes fast forward past this part. She's like fast forward past this part. She's like, I just don't, I can't watch this part. He just, like almost with no, it just smacks the shit out of her twice. Yeah. Just, you know.

I have one more that age of the worst. Yeah. Loose-ass suits. So they had the baggy ass suits on in this bitch. It was like the 2000 NBA draft. Like when you, when you look at the suits, suits, technology has changed. This was big part of the baggy suit. era. Arsenio era.

Arsenio, baggy, whole suit era. Yeah. And then it's over now, but they had some baggy ass suits on in this bitch. The Sal Rubenac overacting award. They knew and they let it happen. Don't you call me lady. I come in here. I give these

things to you. Give it all you got. Listen. Give it all you got. I treated you like a son. You fucking stand me in the heart. Fuck you. It's either Charlton Heston Or the head terrorist. Or Art Malik, yeah.

So far, this is not blowing my skirt up, gentlemen. Don't you have anything remotely substantial? Harry, do you have any hard data? Well, nothing that you would call rock hard. Actually, it's pretty limp, sir. And perhaps you better get some before somebody parks an automobile in front of the White House with a nuclear weapon in the trunk. Do you have any hard data?

Heston's bad. Why does he have an iPad on? What's he doing? Is he supposed to be Nick Fury? I think he's literally, if you look, look up comic book Nick Fury right now. Everyone says how it's like a secret Nick Fury. Not the Samuel Jackson Marvel Ultimates Nick Fury, but if you look up the comic book Nick Fury right now, they look identical.

I definitely think they were doing some kind of Nick Fury thing. Was there a better title for this movie? I'm going to say no. No. True Lies is a good title. Can you dig it a word for most memorable quote? How come billionaires are always short? I thought that was good.

The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have Ben Harrison Ford Hottest Take Award, which Vann already did his. Do you have one? I think that James Cameron kind of broke the model for Blockbuster filmmaking with this run he went on, but specifically with this and Titanic and going forward where if you look at like Jurassic Park and it's like a $65 million budget,

it makes a billion dollars. Obviously not every movie could be Jurassic Park, but at $65 million, even a modest success would have been profitable. Yeah. But this is where movies start to really, the budget starts to inflate. It starts to become more about effects. It starts to become more about set pieces than story maybe.

The story becomes how much money they spend. Yeah. And I think that now you're in a realm where it's like, hey, we spent $300 million on this. There's just basically no way it can be profitable unless it's the most popular movie of all time. It's actually good because after this you have Waterworld. Like we really start paying attention to the budget. budgets of the movies. It's just the idea of hitting doubles

rather than going for a home run. It's like... I don't even know how hot of a take that was. Yeah. But I was thinking about it when I was watching this. What was yours? The opening 15 minutes of this movie, I think, created Fortnite.

Created Fortnite? Yeah. So... If you ever played Fortnite? Yeah. Everything that happens from the moment things start blowing up. Okay.

But the question is... It's a foundation of Fortnite. But this movie is based on like World War II movies. I don't know. I thought my job was to do a hot take. It's a hot take, but when you're skiing people with machine guns and car chases. When you do a hot take, are you saying that someone watched this and was like, I have an idea. Fortnite.

Do we know? I'm not saying, I'm thinking it's possible. So I had a secondary hot take. Guy running through the woods. How many times you have to run through a forest in Fortnite? And turn around and shoot of people. Secondary hot take that I thought was too stupid until we got Fortnite. Thank you.

Let's go. Which is that if they... I thought my job was to come up with a hot take. If they had copyrighted... You're like doing Roger Ebert. I'm here throwing takes out. So what are you? You're a Jim Roam?

Like, what are you in the jungle? Hotest take. I thought that if they had copyrighted, you're fired. The Apprentice isn't that popular and Trump never becomes president. Now that's the hottest take. That's a hottest take. Thanks for taking off your Roger Ebert mask

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It was a passion project for her. James Cameron knew Jamie Lee Curtis from Blue Steel with directed by his ex-wife, Catherine Bigelow, which I watched recently. Blue Steel. She was the cop. Blue still gets dark with like 20 minutes to go. Ron Silver. Kind of like crosses the line that you can't come back from. Yeah, like Ron Silver. She's the cop.

Yeah. She's going after Ron Silver, who is a serial killer. He's a serial killer that was in the convenience store where she shot a guy who robbed the liquor store. Yeah. And he grabs her gun and is so delighted that he watched somebody die that he starts killing people. Yeah. You're not going to believe this, but this movie's out to be. I always get Blue Steel

confused with Blue Thunder Is that the police helicopter movie? Yeah, that's very shatter with helicopters That was awesome There was a movie I can't remember the name of this movie With Tom Selleck It was a cop movie

They used to always play with Blue Steel It was like in the future Gene Simmons Yeah Yeah It was in Runaway Was that what it's called? I bet that's also a tubi

I think it's on Tooby I think it's on Tooby You know what else is on Tooby Mother's Boys With Jamie Lee Curtis Which is terrible I never even heard Yeah, Tube's got everything.

We should get Tupi as a sponsor. Does Tubby have money? Do they just get terrible movies and just put them... Tubi's killing it right now. Tudy is fucking killing it. People were hating on Tubi. Tube is great. Tubi's making a run.

Tubi is making a run. I like Tubi. Telling you. The fucking NCA is dominant. Tuby's doing it, man. Tuby where you can watch Blue Stee. I didn't know Tube. Yeah.

Arnold was against Jamie Lee. Interesting. This is Cassie What-ifs? Yeah, and Cameron really wanted her. And went to Schwarzenegger and said, do you trust me? Schwartznerger was like, sure. And he's like, it's going to be Jamie Lee. And Schwarzenegger's like, all right, I trust you.

Tom Arnold did the audition just to meet James Cameron, did some scenes with Arnold. Cameron noticed that chemistry. And then afterwards, Tom Arnold said to Cameron, and Arnold's not that big. I think I can take him. And Cameron's like, you're hired. I love you.

You're perfect. He never got back here again. He did not. No. If you just watched this movie, you would have been like, what were his next five years? He must have been...

Interesting. He never got back here. Was, we did McKell's baby. By the way, he's a cool guy. Like, I've... He's funny. Run into him. Like, he's like a good hang.

He was on the best damn sports show. What's he doing? What is he even doing now? I don't know. He wasn't in McHale's have. You know, somebody else. He did one movie. movie, one of those.

He made a few things. Yeah, but he never got back here. And then last one, Tia Carrera claimed on the Adam Corolla show that she eventually replaced Karina Lombard after filming began. He was in McElts Navy. Kna Lombard from the firm.

I don't know who that is. She's the woman who's with Tom Cruise on the beach. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do know how it is. You've seen the firm with horny Gene Hackman? Yeah. It's the only time Gene Hackman puts the horns on. Yeah, he's,

freaking horning. Next category. What is going on? I know what the fucking is that whole thing? Oh, God. It's only time just the horrors on.

He's fucking horny. It's late Friday afternoon. I'm feeling it. The Van Lathen Award, did this movie need more black people? No. You don't think Spencer Trilby could have been a black dude? No, man.

It's fine. Sometimes we just... A wise black man? No, man. I think the third spot with Arnold and Arnold and Arnold. easily could have been somebody funny. Yeah. You're talking about the little, the guy.

Grand Hasloff? Grand Hasloff. He was going to be my best guy. But that could easily been, I don't know, Martin Lawrence. But you're talking about the third guy on the megasector, right? Yeah. But I think the reason why they put him there was probably to offset the optics. Good point.

Yeah. That didn't work, though. Nah, I didn't. Best that guy award, Grant Hasloff. Faisal. Easy. Deanne Waiters Award, one of the easiest selections of all. It might actually, it's rare that this happens.

I think it's happened once or twice before. It's in conversation for changing the name of the U. Absolutely. Come on. I totally have the Waders going to do. The Simon from True Lies Award in honor of Dion Waders. It can't.

It can't change. It's like changing the Emmys. I haven't written down. It's so good that you can almost, it's almost written. It's good. And we were talking about the fantasy punch to the, that kills him.

Like when he's in the Corvette and he's like, oh yeah. And it said, blood everywhere. I have to lie to get women to get laid and I don't score much. I got a little dick.

Recasting couch director or city. Who would you have as the lead terrorist? Because we have to fix that one. How about this? Can I throw Liam Neeson at you? Oh, like a little Irish Republican army. Operate none. Yeah, he just got mixed up with the Middle Easterns,

but it's just like Liam Nason when he was really kind of killing it. Mm-hmm. Pretty big for the role. I don't know. I was just trying to think of like, because this has been like a Hans Grubery type of role. Yeah, I mean, like, I think you could Malcovich,

like, if it wasn't Crimson Jihad, if it was just like some terrorist organization. I'm thinking Sean Bean, but that's just because of- Sean Bean. But that's just because of clear and present thing. Yeah. Guessing thing with Gary Oldman, you know, like in Air Force One, but like he kind of does it.

We have Shreiber? What? I'm just naming that. Romo Collinsworth or some other announcer for the director's commentary. Oh my, she's wearing a tiny black dress and doing a strip tease. It's for a mystery man who turns out to be her husband. She just wanted to do something outrageous. You love to see that.

She's out there gaming. That's not really Collinsworth. I don't know what's going on there. It was kind of a late Friday afternoon, Collins. Yeah, it's Collinsworth after a couple pops. I was just going to, I was trying to think of a McAfee show joke, but I don't know if I can't land the plane.

No, just like a, that Harry is a dog! Half-by-sernary research. We mentioned Arnold almost got thrown off the horse and thrown 90 feet and a stunt man caught him and he says, this is why I always love stunt people. Feels like that story has been a little exaggerated over the years. Bullshit.

Cameron and his senior visual effects supervisor John Bruno came up with the plan to put a model of an airplane on the roof of a real building to create a more believable action scene. It sounds like Cameron would just be like what if we...

So he was... The cool piece of research I read was just about how he started his own digital effects production company during True Lies. Like True Lies, he started this place called Digital Domain that did like

Avengers Endgame and shit and it's like sometimes I take a step back and like should James Cameron buy the Celtics like how much money does this do probably have

this is a great question It's a billionaire yeah for sure and also I do think that when you look at how inventive this movie is it is him

this movie is him just trying shit that makes him want to consistently try bigger shit and that's kind of what happens to his career

as a filmmaker. He becomes a guy who's like, not just into the, of course, the filmmaking process but the technology of it and the can I do it?

And what can we do underwater? Yeah, what can we do underwater? What can we do with this? What can we make the Titanic look real? We do all of this stuff. Sierra came up with a great idea for a podcast.

Who should buy the Celtics? How much money does this guy have? Yeah, each episode, you're just like, wait, Jerry Seinfeld. Seinfeld's been on reruns now for 26 years,

not to mention, and he made 20 million a year when he was doing it. And a Netflix deal for it? And do you remember what happened when the DVD came out? When the DVD came out, there was some crazy fucking things. Yeah, they made like $500 million. For a couple of years, he was making like $200 million a year or something like that. I remember there was a New York article about Cameron.

I think it was probably around when Avatar first came out. And it was about how he had invented a foam to spray on his house in Malibu so that it wouldn't burn down if there was forest fires. but it was like proprietary like he invented the foam I was like that guy is not on Twitter man like he just invented a forest fire foam for his house

people would say stuff about him and I would think that it was bullshit people would go well he invented a camera to make this movie he's like McGiver he designed the submarine it's like the guy who's been down to the deepest part of the ocean is not some French

depth scientist it's James Cameron he also like the during the making or I don't know, maybe it was earlier in his career when he was first dating Gayle Ann Hurd, who was his producer. They would just go to the desert and shoot AKs. Like, he's just, he really is about that life. He is.

Remember, when the James... Do you want to hang out? He's the new Bill Braskey. One time James Cameron was... Hang from a building. Yeah. When the dudes got fucked up in the submersible, everywhere, after a while,

James Cameron, James Cameron, James Cameron. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, he was so mad because he was like, I could have... fix that. He's like, if they were to just talk to me, I could have helped them with their designs. It would be funny, like, washed up

James Cameron, where he still has the ideas, but they're not good anymore. He's like, I have this idea to save red wine so that it tastes 100% with this contraption I made in there. Everyone's like, cool, James. This is why I want him to buy the Celtics, is I want him to be like, you guys have to be the first guys to play a game

in the bottom of the Mariana trench. It's like tragedy starts to Celtics. Jason Tatum got the, bends he will be playing this year oh man we mentioned the ice cube trays from the freezer joke was a reference to Tom

Arnold telling Cameron that story and then Arnold really got caught up with dancing at tango and rehearsed for allegedly six months because he wanted to be as good as Al Pacino and son of a woman same music by the way as son of a woman they filmed the horse in the hotel

scene at the West and Bonaventure Hotel Continental. Not far from us. It could be an easy rewatchable's road trip. What do you think for a body count in this movie? Oh, shit. Hundreds. Yeah.

150, 200? 90. Oh, for real? Yeah. That'll be higher. What's your favorite death in this movie? I like the three guys tipping over. I like the guy who goes flying through the windshield of the truck

and then the truck runs him over on the bridge. I've always been obsessed with the human missile shot into the helicopter. there. And then that's it. Apex Mountain. Arnold. No. No. But we're... He's about to start going down the mountain. I have

Arnold Cobby got. Yeah. Arnold standalone movies. No sequel. The movie's not involved in the Randallelan movie. Arnold's standalone movie. No, no sequel. The movie is not involved in a franchise. It's definitely this. Yeah. So you would have Eraser, Commando, total recall. The Running Man.

twins, kindergarten cop. Predator doesn't count because it's a whole big franchise. He didn't show up in the other one. Total recall they did that. So that's eliminated. They re-rebooted it, but it doesn't. He's not in, right? Yeah, but so I'm saying, Predator, I take away because Predator is a whole big lore.

Just Arnold's standalone movies. Just one, is this the best one, right? Best one. It's the Apex Mountain for that. Best one. Tom Arnold Apex Mountain. Without doubt. 1990s tango scenes. Would you go this or Santa Woman?

Sen. A woman. I think it's center of women. Jamie Lee Curtis hot scenes. Think about it. Trading places. Trading places. I mean, there's a lot.

Perfect. That's the best she looks. So you're saying perfect. She has a whole aerobic scene when she's just I fucking John Travolta where it's like, why did this movie make $700 billion? Yeah. You're freak.

It's on two days. I'm a freak. It's some fucking mystery video tape. That's it. You have the white girl super mix. Can't say something? I don't have, I didn't have one tape. I had several lines.

But I'll say, I get credit for being a freak. Sometimes your freak is a little underrated. I'm just saying perfect. Just watch first 10 minutes. Tia Career, it's Wayne World's. Wayne's World. Wayne's World. Paxton, no.

Two Dobermans being headbutted together. James Cameron, no. Ski-skiy shootout scenes? No. Skiing guy shootout scenes. Because it's either Majesty's Secret Service or Inception. Inception. Inception.

Cliffanger? Inception is what I had. Cliffhanger, anybody? Yeah. I like cliffhanger. Cliffhanger's good too, yeah. Ice Cube trade thefts definitely. Weston Bonaventure?

Because this in the line of fire, back to back years. It's in the line of fire. Yeah, but the... Oh, that general. Yeah, yeah, good point. The Western Bonaventure had on us. Horse cops?

Horse cops. I don't know. I feel like we've topped horse cops. Probably. Truth serum? Yeah. It might be the number one truth serum. It might be the best truth serum.

I have to think. Didn't they get... Oh, yeah. They gave Ethan Hunt Truth serum one time. No, you didn't. I can't remember. Florida Keys movies? Where was Wild Things set?

That wasn't the Keys. It was in Miami. They might go to the Keys. No, it was in Miami. With Denzel made one in the Keys, right? Oh, he made Out of Time. That's a good-ass movie. I like Out of Time.

Bro, that's an underrated Denzel Jim. It's not even underrated. I don't think people talk about it. It's properly rated. I'm gonna go Night Moves, Gene Hackman. Keyes. And it's a for any Hacks. too. Yeah. Yeah. And that one.

Hornie Jean Hapham month is the thing. Just maybe what... Horny Hacman? Horny Hacman. It's August. It's time for Horty Hacman. Does Hoosiers now? Hoosiers what? Is he Horny Harkman? He gets a little... Oh, he gets a little... Barbara Herschis. With Barbara Hershey. Yeah.

Cruiser Hanks for this movie. Can I ask a question? Is it better with either? No. No. But I will say... It's a really fun cruise movie. It would be a fun cruise movie. He kind of made it. But I will say that, like, this is, to me, the only type of movie that Tom Hanks hasn't made.

And that's why I would want to see him in it. Like, he could both do the whole thing. He's never really made this movie. He is not. And so I kind of want to see. You think Tom Hanks is, like, embarrassed by how he runs or something like. Because of the forest go? No, there's some sort of hiccup with him doing just a normal action movie.

I think he's bad at it. punching people what people want for me. I mean, Stephen Private Ryan is kind of an action movie. He's, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, is that the most actioning movie he's ever done? I think so. Probably right. Or Forrest Gump. I mean,

he's like running and playing ping pong and in Vietnam. Yeah. That's true. He does do action stuff. Yeah, he just never did a movie like that like beat up guys in a movie.

No. Kick the shit out of people. That's why he's our generation's Jimmy Stewart. Wait, so I need for my notes here. Is it Hank's a Cruz? It's Cruz. It's Chris.

But he winds up making it with mission. But, yeah. Racehorse, rock band, wrestler, or fantasy team name. I don't think Crimson Gihad to work as a racehorse. How about a mega sector as a racehorse? A mega sector, I think, is a good one. The Sand Spider? It gets right into picking nits.

Let's do it. What do you got? What's a megasector's remit? Like, does the rest of the intelligence community acknowledge their existence? how come they have a stupid phrase on their on their floor Spencer Trilby is he a government employee like what's going on so I have a lot of thoughts and he can call on a harrier strike on an American soil they have news crews at the end just showing Arnold yeah so that that's now his career's over

no how do you be how are you a spy if you're on television but if you're watching I know he's doing no no no no if you're listening closely the news crews say they don't know who this is responsible for who's responsible for this and nobody will take responsibility and they're talking to Miami police and Miami police are saying one thing. The thing that got me about Omega Sector, they walk through what seems to be a government building or a front building to get to a more secure place. Yeah. So are they a covert ops off the book?

He mentions the fact that they are illegally wiretapping people 20 times a day. Yeah. Like who do they report to? Are they a series of kites? Well, they obviously have, like, failure in management because Arnold Schwarzenegger is basically able to marshal the surveillance state to follow his wife.

Yes. And there should be a congressional inquiry. Are they a terrorist organization, Omega, said. Well, it could be. I mean, that's another picking Nitz is Arnold spends a million dollars to figure out if his wife's cheating on him. Just follow her.

Do it now. Yeah. Like, the whole thing. But I don't know, like, who they were... It's kind of like Ethan Hunt's, like, brigade almost. Also, when he's, like, calling in the Harrier Jets and the guys are, like, if we shoot missiles at this,

is it going to set off a nuke and all's like, I don't know, I don't know. He doesn't care, by the way. Yeah. He says no, but he's like,

I don't know. I got more nitpicks. I think Arnold would be one of the most recognizable counterterrorism spies you could probably come up with. I mean, in every room he would walk into.

He's just this gigantic in any room. Cruz is a way better spy because he could, he could kind of ease in. To continue that, zero chance Jamie Lee doesn't recognize that it's Arnold

That is my biggest nitpicking the whole thing. Yeah. He's massive. Like, that's my biggest nitpicking the whole thing. That and number one, I just don't see 17 years of marriage. You're not figuring out that he's a spy of some sort. It's tough. Also, who is he?

Like, what's his story? So he's got a very thick accent. So he's obviously a foreign national. He can speak Arabic. He can speak Arabic. Like, who is he? He can fly a jet. He knows spy craft.

Yeah. He's combat trained. He's. He, like, what's his deal? Like, where is he? What happened to him? Do you think also in the 90s? Like, he went to University of California at Santa Barbara for two years and was like, wait.

I think I'd want to get into some spy stuff. Right. So it's just. Not going to surf anymore. The whole time I'm watching the movie now, I'm thinking, yo, where the fuck did this guy come from? What were his early 20s like? What were his early 20s like? What were his early 20s like, Sierra?

I don't know. I mean, it's just like also. It's like I transferred from UCLA. I'm going to Pepperdine now. met some guys in Omega Omega Control Omega sector Some guy with one eye

Asked me to come work for him Some guy who just sized me up And it's like hey Want to come in for a meeting You want to serve your country? It's kind of funny to watch The depiction of like A wife just being like

Yeah, he just does something with sales I don't know Right, she's no questions Yeah Well that's another I guess that could be A Woods Age the worst But like now

She would have some way of kind of knowing If he had left the country That'd probably be on their life 360 that they have with the daughter. It's like, he's in Sweden. Where does he go in the beginning?

Switzerland. Yeah, she should probably would have notice that one. I have big problems with the scuba diving suit with the tuxedo underneath it where nothing gets wet. I know. I mean, Andy Dufrein somehow swimming through shit for 500 yards.

That's a bond thing, though. Bond is often like coming out from a submarine and walking into a cocktail party. It's just, come on. ripping somebody else's face off and it's actually a different face. Harry escapes the mansion and murders, what,

30 people. And then the next day he's like, I'm going to go see Gino Skinner. Yeah. They're not going to suspect anything. Maybe, like, let it breathe for two weeks. Yeah. Also, it's not an international incident that that happened. There's like a massacre at an art auction.

Yeah. It was like, the last guy seen was some handsome muscle-bound guy walked out. Lots of destruction. He blew a bunch of shit up. He just killed people. He left a trail of massacre and destruction in his wake. And he's like, hey, I have a one o'clock

with Juno Skinner. Where is it? Where are off? Right here in River City. Yeah. Go hang out with her. I have a lot of issues with Jamie Lee

deciding to rip her dress and a cocktail dress and how perfectly was my wife's biggest nitpick. She's like, there's no way. Something would have ripped. The dead limo driver

on the Florida Keys Bridge, she's keeping that car pretty straight for about a mile. How does that work? I don't know. That's great. Why did the 14-year-old daughter steal the key from the terrorists? What was her playing there?

No clue. I honestly, the first time through watching it this time, actually, the second time through, I didn't understand how Dana got involved at the end. Like, did they... They're like, they've got Dana. They got Dana. It's like, they just needed a set on it. Well, you're in Florida.

There's a scene where he, like, has his wallet, and he sees a photo that there's a daughter. Oh, yeah. And he's like, oh. Yeah. So they send somebody... Okay, so let's... From Florida back to D.C. They say, they sent somebody to D.C.

to get her, then they got her back. So I guess they had a plane. Yeah, right. Because they had them on a plane, so I guess they had a plane. Not really how hostage stuff works. Yeah. Anything else? Don't you think Arnold Schwarzenegger would have dragged that horse off of the roof? Can a horse's neck hold Arnold Schwarzenegger up?

You think so? Yeah, like a... Well, the horse would have, in real life, the horse is already dead after the elevator just falls. You're asking if the horse is strong enough to pull him back on the thing? Yeah, sure. Okay. Sequel, prequel, prestige, TV, all blackcaster, untouchable.

It was in motion from 98 to 2001, and they finished the script. Cameron and Arnold were back, and the 9-11 happened. And they were like, fuck it. Yeah, that's pretty much what happened. There's more if you want to Google it.

There was an airplane scene. Cameron said in 2002, terrorism is no longer something to take as lightly as we did in the first one. I just can't see it happening given the current world climate, and that was it. And then CBS apparently developed a TV show for two years. It's on.

Is it on that? I think it came out, right? Yeah, when I search true lies, that's what popped up first. How do I get a network television show? What do I do? It's on TV. Do you not have TV? Do you not have network TV?

Of course you have Netflix. I just don't know. I don't know what's on CBS. The Charlottleson Heston rule? Who? Orney Gene Hattman. Come on. No.

Of course not. Gene Hatt was like 90. 17 years old. It's this comeback, bro. This threw an app patch on him. Oh, I did have one more picking knit. I forgot. So most movies have bad evil marksmanship.

This movie has the worst evil marksmanship. Oh, are they, like, right in front of them? Yeah. Now, Rambo 2 is still the number one. It's a cartoon. Like, yeah, this movie has the worst evil marksmanship. It's so many times to shoot these guys, and they don't ever do it. And every time they shoot, they miss.

But they do shoot innocent bystanders. Who gets shot? Doesn't somebody get shot in the Washington Mall, like in the Georgetown Mall when Crimson Jihad is escaping? When a guy's getting out. He's shooting people. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trao, Sam Jackson, J.T. Walsh, Byron Mayo, Harling, Mays, evil laughing, Ramon Raymond. Philip Baker Hall. Who did we add last week? Or is it better directed by Yon DeBar?

I don't think this is better directed by J.D.B. One more honorary Bill Paxton from Aliens character Hudson showing up. That's just great. Man, I just pissed myself at the damn. What the fuck are we going to do now, man? I got a little dick. Game over. So we're adding him?

Yeah. He's Wayne Jenkins is his cousin. He gets him before the movie even gets it before we do aliens. Congrats to him. What's his full name? Hudson. Corporal Hudson. Simon Hudson.

I'm just adding that. Simon Hudson. Just one Oscar gets it. Special effects? Yeah, or Cameron. I'm going with Tom Arnold for the Oscar? For the Academy Award?

What a stutter that would have been. Tom Arnold for support. Even shit, Roseanne. Travolta and Bruce Wilson have gone down. I'm putting him in the Marissa Tomey, my cousin Vinnie, class of supporting character Oscars. Probably an answerable questions.

We've hit all mine except is not being able to do the tango a top 10 thing you're jealous of? I watch people do the tango. I'm like, that just feels like you would have the power of 10 men if you could do that. It's only ever occurs to me when I watch a movie in someone tango. I've never been in a real-life situation. What if you and Phoebe took tango lessons?

I mean, I don't know. They'd be amazing if you're like unbelievable tango. That'd be nice, Chris. Wouldn't that be nice? You go to a wedding and you're like, hey. What's the matter with you? Chris, watch you tango with your life. Have you ever been in a real-life situation that calls for you to tango?

Never. Think about that question. That racially coded. It is. Is it? All right. What situation? You're big.

You know? What situation? What situation would the tango happen? I don't, you don't know. White people are like, we tango now. I'm not even,

I'm not even saying, now I'm just saying, it doesn't even seem to be like an American thing, right? Yeah, it's like an Argentinian thing, right? Yeah, it's overseas. If I was at any sort of function and two people started to do in the tango,

I would feel like the fucking moon landing. But what if they were fucking crazy at it, though? We're on talking about for Chris. If they were really, fucking amazing. Wouldn't that be something to see? So you got for like a ring or holiday party and I'm like, hold on guys. If you promise to throw a ringer holiday party,

I'll learn to tango with Phoebe and then we will fucking tango. Oh my God. That's great. Yeah. Bro, that's a July. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, that sounds great. All right. Yeah.

How many months do you have to learn out of tango? I have no clues. It's like... I'm sure there's got to be some guy to Instagram. Is it only one tango song? It's like, dun dun dun dun. Dun.

Are there other tango songs? Is there like a tango soundtrack? I don't know. I think we're going to go with the Bill Simmons tango anthem. Any other enantiables? We got them all.

I got one. Did Harry ever have to sleep with another woman for a mission? I think he did it for fun. Every Schwarzenegger character You always have to kind of factor in the horn. This is for national security. Arnold, like, one of the horniest A-list superstars we've ever had.

He's not not flirting with every other woman in this movie. Every scene with Tia Carrera, he's like, let's go back to my trailer. He's got a whole, yeah, yes, you're right. Best double feature choice. What do you got, C.R. Mr. and Mrs. Smith? Oh, this is a riff on this. This is kind of, I have that, this is kind of the spiritual prequel to Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

I have a weird one. What do you have? I have the born identity. Mm-hmm. I have speed. Okay. Just go summer. 94.

Speed, Yon DeBahn, Red and a true lies. Let's fucking go. Andy and Red So Watanewa would happen the next day. We know they became married spies. I have some questions

about whether the daughter is... Seems to be a part of the spy situation. At least on it. Spy family. As somebody who has or had a teenage daughter, like I just feel like she would tell her friends. Hey, Emily,

don't tell anyone this, but my mom and dad are counterterrorists. They're in Omega Sector. Yeah, I feel like that gets out in five minutes. So I have, I've never been more sure about what happens the next day after the movie goes off. Just say crazy sex. They were 100% both killed in action. 100%.

He brought her on. She doesn't have any real training. Yeah. It's all vibes. They were, I mean, she's a year. I don't know if it takes a year to be like the top of the Omega. She 100% gets him killed. 100% killed in action, both of them.

I think that they both go to jail for embezzling funds for Omega Sector because you could tell Harry got his beak wet during the course of this mission where he's like, ooh, a little sweet at the hotel. Like, you know, like marshalling the surveillance state against my wife. Like, I can't stop taking money from work. And then they go down. Trulby brings them down. Yep.

What piece of memorabilia would you want from the movie? I guess the glasses with the camera just because I'd like to experience that, sort of the first vision pro. That's actually a great one I had like the nuclear warhead I could put it in my like bedroom But that's a good one But the glasses are great

You know what you ever been to a spy store? I have not They have spy they have I looked it up I've never been to one But they have spy stores Here There's one of Beverly Hills

You can go and buy all kinds of different spy stuff Really? My private investigator I'd like Pry lapsed so I probably wouldn't You go there by like different types Of surveillance of that's spy stores

I'd want the The The tranquilizer. The taser. The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson. I have either you're a sick bitch if you steal the ice cube trays out of the freezer or it's okay to lie to your spouse

because it will all work out. I don't know if I like either of those, but go ahead. Mine is not in the movie, but I just came up with my own. Just encourage your wife's free. Yes. And she wants to dance for you, bro. She wants to get crazy.

She wants to get it. She wants to be free. she wants it to happen, bro. It's encourage it. Don't hold her back. Don't make her wear the ankle-ling shit. Turn on that fucking shit. She's on her sad exercise bike in the bedroom.

Yeah, that's not what she wants. Wondering why you didn't get home in time for the birthday cake. Or not. Bill Paxton's coming along. It's encouraging your wife's freak, man. There's something just amazing about you doing this speech

to this necklace you got on. Who won the movie? I'm fucking dying right now. Who won the movie? Cameron. Look at James Cameron for sure. Yeah. It seems like I thought it would be a debate, but I guess not.

All right. Producer Craig had not seen this movie. No, but there's also like, I feel like there's nothing I can bring to this that you guys have. I'm glad I watched this movie after having seen a good chunk of the Arnold 80s, 90s movies, because this does feel like the Avengers end game of the genre. Yeah. It feels like we peaked. And then it kind of never came back.

I don't know if it's like Fast and Furious is the modern version of these. But doesn't that feel like all like it's happening inside a computer compared to this? 100%. Also, these movies are like, this movie is nuts. And it's like good and bad. And it, I don't know, you, I know you love Tom Arnold and Jamie Lee. Like, I personally feel like no one's really good at acting in this movie. But it's like, and everybody knows that and is okay with that. And it's like actually part of why the movie's good. Like, if the actors were better, I think the movie's not necessarily better. Because it's a bunch of serious situations that no one's really taking seriously. Yes.

And it works for the overall tone of the movie to sell you on everything that has to happen. And like Fast and a Furious would never have a scene like the Paxton scene. Right. Never. Yeah. Because that movie takes itself too serious. You know why it takes itself seriously? So my family?

Salude me, familia. Then it was turned the bottom. Turns it way back. Bid's never drank a beer bottle before. I was pretty shocked by how much run they gave Tom Arnold in this movie. I was like... Yeah, they really let him cook. I bet you he has the most lines in this movie.

Because Arnold doesn't talk a whole lot. Arnold is like borderline, like a lead in this movie. Yeah. And he's a guy I had no relationship with. And I was like, wow, this is like a rare moment where they gave kind of a random guy a ton of leash in a movie with two pretty big stars. Yeah, I wonder whether it's A because the script is so action-based that like in those more like chatty scenes, he's just like, yeah, just go for.

for it, man. Yeah. Were you a best damn sports show period guy? I was not. Not, not, at first. And it got,

it got still pretty quick. Is that with John Sally? Yeah. John Sally, Tom Arnold. And a couple of the guys that were rotating in and out, but at first I was the lady on that. There was a female host.

Um, what's your face? Not Lisa Guerrero. No. I can't remember. Like, very good looking ladies. I can't remember her name right now.

I never really logged that show. Never watched it. Okay. I watched it a couple of times. So, Craig, thumbs up. We're on a heater this summer. Yeah. You love Twister.

You love True Lies. Yeah. True Lise is like borderline the most, like, entertaining movie ever. I mean, it's just like pure, raw excess. Yeah. It's like the last of its kind. Yeah. I mean, it's like the rave before the apocalypse.

It's like a muck bang of a movie. Well, this goes back to Twister last week when I was saying I felt like something was shifting. Because True Lies, 94 in speed, and it just felt like we were. were hitting the tail end of something and then Twister, it's this new air is coming. I remember going to Godzilla in 98, Matthew Broderick. I remember that. I was so fucking bummed out. I thought it sucked.

And it was like just bad special effects. And it was like, oh, man, now this is what we're going to get. Like, you just feel something shift. Yeah, they made a huge deal with that. So I really get bummed out by movies. Yeah, like the wrong kind of move. What movie broke it? I mean, this was the peak, but what movie broke it?

Erasure comes out like a couple of years later. It wasn't a... We ran out of the same kind of stars. Nick Cage was trying to keep it alive with Conair and a couple of those. It got a little moneyballed where it's like, oh, you can actually have like a regular actor-actor just do these big action movies and you don't have to have like...

Jack and Chan. $25 million. Yeah. All right. CR, great to see you. Van Leithen, great to see you. You can listen to Van on Higher Learning. You can listen to them on the Ringerverse, Midnight voice.

You can hear CR on the watch, the big picture. And I'm going to be on the Prestige TV on Tuesday talking presumed innocent, even though I'm supposed to be on vacation. Good to see you, guys. Good to see you.