The Rich Roll Podcast - Plant-Based On A Budget, Unleashing Your Inner Mentor & Tips For Raising Healthy Teens (Plus Win a SOMA!)

Episode Date: April 16, 2015

It's been a while, but Julie and I are finally back with another installment of Ask Me Anything — a twist on my typical format where we answer questions submitted by you, the listener. I absolutely... love this format, primarily because it connects me more deeply and authentically with the global community of people who enjoy the show. Because community is truly what it's all about. This is an exciting time for us. We have been working super hard getting everything ready for the impending release of The Plantpower Way, so we thought it would be fun to share a little behind the scenes on why we wrote the book; the collaborative and often intense two-year process undertaken to create it; the insane amount of effort and diligence required to launch a book into the mainstream; and our ultimate aspirations for the work. Then the conversation turns to listener submitted inquiries. A conversation that explores: parenting tips for temperamental teenagers; the nutritional needs of athletic plant-based kids; the journey towards service & mentorship; tips for starting a podcast based on Rich's experience; gender challenges faced in the wellness lifestyle; pursuing a plant-based lifestyle on a budget; the impact of increasing nutrient density on appetite & cravings; and culminates with In the Sun- an original song by SriMati (aka Julie) It was really fun to once again sit down with Julie — my wife and co-collaborator — to engage with the audience first hand, hashing out free-form the subjects you care about most. Thank you everyone who submitted the 100's of questions we reviewed. If we didn't get to yours (obviously chances are we didn't), nonetheless please keep them coming. I plan on doing many more supplemental Q&A focused editions of the show (both with Julie and surprise guest hosts), so don't be shy. Fire your queries off to info@richroll.com and we'll do our best to answer! I sincerely hope you enjoy the offering. Peace + Plants, Rich

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Everybody has something to share. And if it's shared from your level of experience, from a pure and authentic place, and from a place of humility and a place of transparency, it is powerful, you know, across the board. That's Julie Pyatt, and this is another Ask Me Anything episode of the Rich Roll Podcast. Hey, everybody, welcome to the show. Welcome back to the show. I am Rich Roll. I am your host back at you for a second episode this week, our second week in a row of doing two episodes a week. And I'm joined today by my lovely co-author and wife, mother of my children. How's it going? It's going good. That's Julie. That's Julie Pyatt, if you're new to the podcast. Hi, everyone. Thanks for inviting me back on Rich Roll.
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Starting point is 00:01:40 I like that. Is that okay? You should do the intro every week. It's the mission. The mission is to help you live and be better. So each week I sit down with the best and the brightest across all categories of life, health, and excellence to blow the ceiling off your personal potential. And you're doing it for us. And thank you.
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Starting point is 00:05:39 So you're writing a bunch of blog posts right now that are going to be going out. I am. I am. On what kind of subject matter. I don't know. Yeah, you do. Food. Food. Sharing some of the recipes.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, sharing some of the recipes. Also talking about how to handle cooking for meat eaters. Meat eaters in your family, in your extended family. Cooking for them or also how to kind of engage them verbally and emotionally no this was this exact post was really just you know
Starting point is 00:06:14 three amazing recipes that will please the meat eaters in your life so yeah some of it goes off yeah and some of the other you know the other emotional and kind of energetic things you can do, like, you know, how to be, how to show up in a group of meat eaters. And another one is, you know, why you should make time to cook, why everybody should make time. And also, you know, how to,
Starting point is 00:06:41 or what are the benefits of, you know, showing up around the family table as a matter of habit or part of your lifestyle, stuff like that. And also, I also just featured some amazing whole foods that I think just get left. You know, we're always looking at how to prepare things, but I just did a post that just features, you know, some whole foods and brings them front and center and just sort of reminding us that nature gives us a lot of things already, you know, perfectly created and we don't need to mess with them. So I did one of those. But those posts haven't been published yet for people that are listening, right? No, they're not published.
Starting point is 00:07:17 There's nowhere to go right now. So they're going to start rolling out soon. And I have a lot of writing to do. So I'm feeling that pressure. How has this whole book process been for you it's been pretty amazing you know it's um it's been uh you know I'm sort of again it's like for me I'm sort of um I'm just this is my first book so I'm in I'm more in a beginning place with it so but it's been's been amazing, you know, it's been amazing to,
Starting point is 00:07:46 I mean, I think I'm on the brink of it. It's just sort of starting for me. People are always asking me or are interested in how we collaborated over it. Like, I think they want to know if we got into big fights or something. Yeah, we did. Totally did. Broke up. No, we didn't really. No, I mean, it was pretty evenly divided. Like it was kind of natural, like what you would be mostly focusing on versus what I was going to be mostly focusing on. So, we were able to kind of, I mean, and we would swap pages. So, we weren't fighting over, I want my peanut butter cookie recipe in the book. Well, obviously, you know, the actual recipe aspect of it is your domain.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Like, you know, I made sure that that was your, you know, that you had full control over all of that with, you know, I had some input, but that was really your thing. And I was more focusing on the editorial content, which we split up between both of us. I mean, there's opinion pieces by me and opinion pieces on you. And it has this kind of really nice yin yang kind of thing to it because we, we both offer complimentary, but, but sort of different perspectives on, on issues. Well, I would say, I mean, in our family, I'm the chef and you're more the nutrition expert. And so what's interesting about our relationship is that we came to this lifestyle through two very different lenses. So, you know, I actually, I mean, I came to it originally through healing myself
Starting point is 00:09:07 of a cyst in my neck. And then that went deeper into the aspects of energetics in Ayurveda and meditation and frequency for me. And you came into it also through a health scare, but then you were focused on performance, like athletic performance. What if it was the other way around and like you became the ultra athlete and then I was like the yoga dude?
Starting point is 00:09:28 And you were like going to Ultraman. What would that look like? I think half of that is happening. You are becoming the yoga dude. I kind of am. I'm holding that vision for you. So that will be the full actualization as you come through this athleticism. And then, you know, you'll be the guy with the orange robes and the beard i am like you know like i when i was at the uh u.s olympic training center um giving my talk to the young
Starting point is 00:09:57 swimmers um you know i i was getting up and talking to them about mindfulness and yoga and how that can have a positive impact on their performance. And I put a slide up that was a picture of me in a lotus position. And I'm thinking, Julie's really the one who should be talking about this, not me. I'm just like the front man for the wisdom that really is coming from you on that. is that I did a podcast interview with Andy Putacombe, who's the founder and co-CEO, I think, of Headspace, which is a meditation app that I talk a lot about and I'm always supporting
Starting point is 00:10:34 and kind of telling people they should check it out. I have no business affiliation with them whatsoever. I just think it's a helpful tool. Andy was a great, amazing guest and I'm gonna be posting that interview soon. But I also did, they have their own podcast called Headspace Radio and I did that one and and now they've like put me as one of their like they're doing like a kind of month on fitness and wellness and so I'm one of their you know sort of fitness experts like in their blog and on their podcast and stuff like that and that's another thing that's ironic because I feel like that's more your domain.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I mean, I love it and I can speak to it. And, you know, I certainly have reaped the benefits of that practice. But I think you're much further along down the line than I am in that regard by a country mile. Well, I mean, you know, I think that I think in life, you know, oftentimes you teach what you need to, you need to learn, you need to embody. I mean, and, you know, I also, I kind of giggle at myself also because I had a, I had a moment in my life where, you know, I wanted to sing since I was six years old and then I didn't do it for my whole life. But I did have a moment where my brother, who's this genius musician, Stuart Mathis, who plays for the Wallflowers and Lucinda, his wife, Holly, at the time just called me up and was like, hey, will you be in my band? And I was like, hey, I'm not a musician. And she was like, yeah, hey, you are. So just show up at rehearsal. So for a split second, I was in her band for like
Starting point is 00:11:58 three performances. And I was terrified. I'd never sang on a mic. I'd never even spoken into a mic before. And from that, there was those three events. There was only three shows because then we didn't do it anymore because Stuart got some tour and he was gone and that was over. But I had photographs from that moment in my life, really awesome photographs of me singing, me onstage singing. And I had them up in my house. And they sat there for 10 or 15 years until I had my awakening with music and became a musician. So I always kind of, like when I see that picture of you meditating that's in the book, for instance, and you're new to meditation, you're very new to meditation, you're just beginning to sit. And I mean, if you look at it in the vast, you know, the vast scheme of thing, I'm very new to meditation, you know, honestly. So, even though I've been doing it for, you know, 20 years. So, it's all perfect. It's like, you know, of course, you should be teaching that. And of course, you should be embodying that. And I look at that and I go,
Starting point is 00:13:01 let that be a, what do you call it? Like a sign of what is coming. So I don't look at that picture of you in the book and go, that should be me meditating. That's not what I think. I look at it and go, wow, let that be a sign of what is coming in his evolution. Wouldn't that be beautiful? What is coming? Well, I don't know. Only you know. No, I don't know. No, I mean, I hope that, you know, I hope if it fulfills you and if it touches you and if you find meaning in it and value in it, that you continue to explore meditation and to explore the deeper, more expanded spiritual aspects of yourself. I would wish that for every human being. Yeah. That's the plan. You know, that's the, I mean, I've embarked on that quite imperfectly, but at least, you know, the ship is pulled out of the dock, right? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:56 So, I mean, that's a good place for me to ask you, you know, what do you think is, what is your, you know, hope and aspiration for this book? Like, what is it like if you could have your, your way with, you know, it's, it's gone out into the world and, and it's doing its thing. Like, how do you, you know, what is your vision for that? Well, I mean, you know, from a very deep part of the, of the creation of it is, you know, I understand what a gift and what a blessing it is to feed people. And that how much nurturing and power and transformation and love is inherent in the food that we eat and in the sacred rite or ritual of actually serving food. rite or ritual of actually serving food. And, you know, anybody that's been over to our house, you know, they come in and, you know, they're encountered, they're embraced with a lot of creativity, a lot of sharing, a lot of openness, you know, our space is very open, it's open to
Starting point is 00:14:57 nature. So there's beautiful design, there's music, there's open energy, a welcoming energy, and then there's a lot of amazing tasting food. And, you know, it's chaotic. It's not all neat and pretty. You know, it's a family of seven, you know, that are all artists and all existing and all creating and things aren't always in place. Like if I had one, you know, one sort of thing in the back of myself that bugs me once in a while is I wish I had sort of an extra aspect of me that could put things in order a little bit better when somebody comes in. But when somebody comes into our house, they really get the essence of us if they come and spend an afternoon with us. And I feel like that is what we have shared through the book. It's almost like we've invited the reader into our home and we've allowed them to experience a slice of our life with us, you know, through the lifestyle, through it being shot, you know, mostly at our home in the area, the land where we love, you know, where we live.
Starting point is 00:16:09 in the area, the land where we live. And I feel like it's sort of like we've prepared a seat at our family table and we've said, come on in and join us. Because obviously we don't have the physical capacity to invite people all over the world into our home, but we've really done it with this book. And so if I had a core desire is I just hope that the book inspires, touches something deep inside someone else that inspires them, whether it's creatively, spiritually, athletically, in the kitchen, with food. inspires something that's really pure and authentic within each one of you. And that from our example of living our life, that you can find a starting point to jump off into your own expression that will carry you way beyond what we've experienced or in a different way, in your own unique way. But that would be my deepest dream for the book. Yeah. It's not like, well, I hope that you can make a pie a little bit more delicious. No, but you will. You will, but- You'll actually make some really delicious pies. Yeah. So I think that's the heart and the core of
Starting point is 00:17:23 the book, right? Yes, it's filled with all of these, you know, delicious recipes and beautiful photography of the food. But it's really, on some level, you know, I feel like it transcends that because it's not, as much as it is about that, it's not about that. No, it's about a lifestyle. It's about showing that these aspects of food and these principles and these energies, these ideas that we live with and that we cultivate within our lives, they permeate out into all areas of your life. And nothing you know, nothing's perfect. Nobody's perfect. It's a process. We call it an evolution revolution. That's what it is. It's a moving, changing, living organism. And that is what each being, that's the life of each human being, you know? And so, yeah, it's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:18:24 The plant power way. Okay. Well, I want to, that was beautifully said. And I couldn't have said that better for sure. I mean, you know, look, we're super proud of this book. We can't wait to share it. And, you know, we're in the thick of it right now, like trying to do all this media stuff and get the word out about it. We're in the thick of it right now, like trying to do all this media stuff and get the word out about it. So we just – it's on our brains and we wanted to share that with you.
Starting point is 00:18:51 So thank you for that. And for people that haven't preordered it yet or maybe you're new to the show, we're offering $300,000 worth of preorder bonus gift incentives for everybody who pre-orders a book prior to April 28th, which is the day it goes on sale. All kinds of cool stuff. Like you'll get nine bonus recipes that are not in the book. You'll get all these discount codes, including like 20. If you pre-order one book, you get 20% off an Omega juicer. And those are like amazing masticating juicers that are anywhere from like 230 bucks all the way up to like 450 so 20 off that's significant savings as it ramps up into you buy three books you buy five books buy 10 books that discount code goes up to like 40 and with all these other added extra awesome bonuses so um you know again it's our way of
Starting point is 00:19:42 saying thank you and it's cool to be able to say, hey, for, you know, the $28 that you're going to spend at barnesandnoble.com or IndieBound or Amazon to pick up the book, you're going to get all this other stuff that's worth way more than $28 plus you get the book. So anyway. Yeah. Yes. There's some good stuff. Cool. Yeah. There's a lot of really good stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Anyway, yeah yeah just go to richroll.com um the green band that shows up across the top of the page will direct you to the page that has all the information on how you can participate in all of that so okay well why don't we um take some questions from the listeners yeah let get into it. It's been a while since we've done the Q&A thing. Let's do it. Right. So I went through some of them and I found a couple of good ones. And I thought a good one to kick it off with is one from Lars Tandrup.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And he writes as follows. Your discussions about mindfulness and that you are not your thoughts can create your own reality have resonated very well with me. I sometimes look back at my life and wish I had known or paid attention to that earlier in my life. My daughter is 15 and in high school, and I think she and other young adults could benefit tremendously from learning and thinking about some of these concepts. I see the pressure they are being exposed to in terms of selecting college tests, finding out who they really are, peer pressure, exposure to drugs, alcohol, et cetera. But I'm unsure how to approach the subject with her. Do you have any experience with good ways of discussing these concepts with teenagers?
Starting point is 00:21:20 So I thought that was a pretty good question for you. Hi, Lars. Thanks so much for your question. You want me to take this pretty good question for you. teenagers is to get them into a yoga class. So whether, I don't know what kind of relationship you have with her. I don't know if you could go with her to a yoga class or if that would be frightening to her, she would want to go alone. But there are some versions of yoga that are out there that are being taught to music, to kind of popular music. And I found with teenagers that teaching them to a playlist that they like is an amazing tool. And it actually, the physical yoga practice will start to do the transformation on her. And it's very enjoyable. It will release endorphins. It will make her feel good. It's very enjoyable.
Starting point is 00:22:23 It will release endorphins. It will make her feel good. It just really, really is nurturing to the body. And then I would say after that, you could explore doing some meditations together. I don't know how open she is. So maybe she's very worldly and she's very open to other ways of doing things. She's very worldly and she's very open to, you know, other ways of doing things. I would also suggest my meditation program, which is Jai Release on the Ritual site. It's a 30-minute guided meditation that she can put on her iPad and put, you know, headphones on and, you know, experience a pretty complete 30-minute meditation.
Starting point is 00:23:05 So those are two ideas that I have. Yeah, I think that's a wise approach as opposed to, let's sit down and have a talk and I'm going to preach to you about the benefits. It's not going to work, right? No, she's not going to hear that. I think the other thing would be to figure out like, well, who is she into? Who does she sort of respond to in terms of popular culture, pop culture figures out there and who among those people is into something like that? Like, for example, like Russell Brand, he's all about mindfulness and meditation. He talks about this stuff a lot. And he has the ability to connect with younger people in a way that, you know, a lot of other people can't. So I'm not saying Russell Brand is the person that your daughter should tune into, but maybe there's
Starting point is 00:23:47 somebody that's more on her wavelength that she can hear the message from. Yeah, definitely. I mean, in our case, you know, we, our boys are 20 and 18 and they're all about this kind of stuff, but it wasn't, it was different in the sense that it wasn't like they reached 15 and you decided to have, that it was time to deal with this. They just grew up with it because you're their mom. Yeah. I mean, they went in and out. I have a visual actually going to one of these kind of high-energy rock and roll yoga classes.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And they would sometimes come with me to class and hang off my body. I had two little kind of babies hanging off the front and the back. And then they went through different phases. They went through phases where they weren't into it at all. And I wouldn't say that they're, you know, they're not ultra flexible, you know, yogi types. However, they are, you know, they're very into yoga. Yoga is a part of their life and we meditate together and they meditate without me. And, you know, pretty much I know. I told them the other day actually in the car, I said, I know you guys will be okay because I know you have yoga. So it's not that life isn't going to present difficulties.
Starting point is 00:24:55 It is because that's how life is designed. But I feel like they're good because they have tools. They have meditation practice and they have yoga practice that they can do no matter where they are. They have meditation practice and they have yoga practice that they can do no matter where they are. And they do turn to it in times of stress, in times of where they're feeling just some transformation going on. I would also say a really amazing thing you could do for your daughter is find the best yoga center in town and buy her a month series. And agree to drop her off and just say, I'm, I'm gifting you this anytime you want to go,
Starting point is 00:25:29 I'll take you and I'll drop you or whatever. That's what I would do. That's a great. And then, and then, uh, she can, she can kind of take ownership of it herself as opposed to you,
Starting point is 00:25:38 you telling her this or that. Yeah, that's right. And then the other thing, Lars is I would get her autobiography of a Yogi. If she likes to read, um, it's a very, a the other thing, Lars, is I would get her autobiography of a yogi if she likes to read. It's a very, very amazing book, a classic yoga text. And it's a story. And a lot of young people enjoy reading that and people of all ages, but check it out. house a couple of weeks ago to do another podcast. I just love that guy. He's the parkour artist, ninja dude that can do handstands on the top of the Brooklyn Bridge and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:26:18 He's just an extraordinary individual. And he's kind of really like he has evolved since the first time that we sat down with him. He didn't even look the same. He looks totally different. Now he's got long hair and his interests are shifting and he's expanding and it's pretty cool to see. And he's really starting to get into meditation and yoga in a way that he wasn't the first time he came over. I mean, I think you could see him dancing around these ideas and it's not surprising that he's moved towards it, but it's different now. Like he's like all in, in a way that he wasn't before. And he was looking for some books to read. So we gave him our copy of Autobiography of a Yogi, which I've read like three times and it's all dog-eared and the pages are all bent in it and stuff like that. And he's digging it. Like he's tweeted about it, like he's quoting from it in his Twitter feed and he emailed and just said how grateful he was
Starting point is 00:27:04 to have been gifted that book because he's really getting a lot out of it. from it in his Twitter feed and he emailed and just said how grateful he was to be, to have been gifted that book because he's really getting a lot out of it. That's so cool. Well, I, and I also actually, he kept, he was asking me sort of second and third questions. It took me a minute and he was like, is there any, are there any physical practices in this book? And then I said, wait a second. And I went up and I, I got a book that is, it is by the Bihar School of Yoga.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And it's Swami Satchitananda Saraswati. And it's like the original, very, very classical asana book. And so I gave it to him and it had actually been signed by his successor. So it was signed by Narasimha. And I said, this is a very sacred book, but it's perfect that I gave it to him because he's the master of physicality, you know? So I hope that he... Who else would you give it to? Who else would I? Probably no one. I would have never given it to anybody, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:59 it's really cool. So great. Yeah. And I don't know when I'm posting that interview with Timothy, but probably in the next couple couple weeks or something like that. And I have to say it was a little bit hard for me to give him that autobiography of a yogi copy because it's our copy that we had when we were living in the teepees. I look at that and I can see the teepees when we were building our home. But anyway, it was good to give it to him. All the more beautiful that we gave it to him. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:28:25 All right. Let's move on to another question. Thanks, Lars. Good luck with that. Thanks. So this is from Michelle Rhodes, and she asks, my question has to do with my kids who are 17 and 14 and who play national soccer and lacrosse respectively. How do I modify their plant-based diet to be sure that they are getting the proper nutrients to fuel their explosive sprint-based sports? So yeah, so we have some experience with this. Trapper, our 18-year-old, played varsity soccer this year. And now our
Starting point is 00:28:57 11-year-old Mathis is playing hockey, which is an interesting thing. I would have not predicted that I would have become a hockey dad, but that's what's happening. And so, yeah, so, you know, they're plant-based and, you know, as all our kids are. So the question has to do with what you would change to make sure that they're getting everything that they need. And my answer to that really is not much. You know, I don't think that you have to really do anything that different. I think that the main thing is that, you know, their caloric needs are going to be a little bit higher. So portion sizes are probably going to be bigger. But if you're feeding them, you know, basically, you know, whole plant based foods prepared, you know, pretty close to their natural state,
Starting point is 00:29:40 that, you know, nature will rig it for you to make sure that, you know, they're getting what they need. But to the extent that you're looking for kind of tips for just making sure or being able to sleep better at night, you know, plant-based foods that are higher in protein, making sure that maybe you up the percentage of things like lentils, mung beans, quinoa, and always making sure they're getting their greens. You know, if you're eating a plant-based diet, but you're not getting your greens in every day, I think that you're missing out. They're so dense in phytonutrients and micronutrients. So I think that's important. I think, you know, pre-practice, you know, for them to have a green smoothie with kale and, you know, maybe put some beets in there, which really help with athletic performance in a training context.
Starting point is 00:30:28 They help with the uptake of oxygen and carrying it through your bloodstream to your muscles. So, you know, adding a little beet in there is great. But, you know, I think you don't have to overcomplicate it. You know, their carbohydrate needs are probably going to be higher. So sweet potatoes or, you know, the potato salad that's in our cookbook are probably good. I mean, what are some of the things that Trapper, who's 18 and is in this category, prefers? Like what are his favorite dishes that you make for him or that you're always trying to make sure that he gets so that he feels good before and after his practices? Well, I mean, he just eats a lot of food.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I mean, he eats, you know, good portions and good quality food, stays away from processed foods, you know, packaged foods. Don't be eating vegan junk food and think that that's, you know, good thing. So I would stay away from gluten for inflammation across the board, whether you think you're gluten insensitive or not. And coconut water, definitely introduce coconut water to replenish the system. Using small amounts of turmeric root, just hide it in the smoothie or sprinkle it in a soup or stew. That's really good for reducing inflammation. Another one of my favorites is hemp seeds. Make sure that they get hemp seeds and chia seeds either. High in omega-3s and hemp seeds are also high in protein as well. In protein. So you
Starting point is 00:31:50 can sprinkle those in a morning porridge, you know, some kind of, you know, really oatmeal has a gluten in it, but it's very, very low. So it could be some oatmeal mixed with some chia seeds and some hemp seeds to get some walnuts in there, even goji berries. My seven-year-old loves goji berries, which is great. So those are some things you can do. And the other thing that I would also add in, especially if there's an energy, you know, a little energy concern, put a half a teaspoon of a good quality spirulina into either the oatmeal. That'll be more intense because they'll see the green and it depends on the kid what it is.
Starting point is 00:32:29 But you could put it into the smoothie or even just dissolve it in water and drink it. I find that to be extremely energizing. Yeah, sometimes I'll take like half a tablespoon of spirulina, put it in water with lemon and just drink it, you know, which is intense maybe for somebody who's new to this, but it makes me feel great actually. That's really good. Also bananas, I think. Did I say bananas? Like for cramping? Yeah. I mean, well, there's a, that's kind of a myth now. Actually there's this idea that like, that bananas have all this potassium, but they're actually not that high. It's a myth now?
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah, I know. Isn't that interesting? There's other foods that high in potassium. It's a myth now? Yeah, I know. Isn't that interesting? There's other foods that are higher in potassium. You ate a lot of bananas. I think that the thing that you butt up against, and we've experienced this, is when you go to the games or the practices and there's always one parent.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It's their week to bring the snacks or the food or whatever. And 99.99% of the time, it's just the worst stuff ever. Like it's just pizza or just garbage, you know, just garbage food. And then there's a lot of candy bars and sports bars and sugary drinks and the Gatorades and all that kind of stuff. So, you know, trying to, you know, find healthier alternatives for that for your child can sometimes be tricky, especially when they're on a team and they want to be doing what their other kids are doing. And there's a little bit of peer pressure involved, but, you know, coconut water, bananas, dates, things like that are, you know, actually much more effective and obviously much more nutritious than most of that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Well, and I took fruit smoothies too. I was snack mom for Mathis' hockey game this week, and I took fruit smoothies. And I was snack mom for Mathis' hockey game this week, and I took fruit smoothies. And I was shocked that half of the kids refused them. Right. Like what was in the fruit smoothie? It wasn't green, right? No, I made sure. I was like, don't.
Starting point is 00:34:15 It was like a better roll in mellow, right? So I just rolled. And I also had some gluten-free vegan cupcakes from our bakery, from Carmen Baker, but which are, which, you know, are not, I cannot say that they're health food, you know, they're just not, but I brought some of those little mini ones and then I brought the smoothies, but it's interesting. Yeah. I kept the green out and even as is, you know, it was like banana, strawberry, basically maybe some chia and it just freaks some of the kids out. Yeah. And then half were really, really excited and half the parents were really excited.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And so I think we made a difference, but half were like, I'm not touching that. It's the microbes. Literally, their microbes are like, start to freak out. So you just have to stand there and just be neutral. So I said, I'll volunteer to come again. So let me know if you want me to do it another time. I think for me in an athletic context and making sure that I'm kind of getting what I need, it just has to be hearty. It has to stick to the bones.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I can't eat just some light meal after a huge workout. Like I need something that has some heft to it, like, you know, a giant bowl of chili or some of that azuki bean pasta, you know, with your plant-based fettuccine sauce or, you know, lentils. You know, lentils are actually great for that if you mix in veggies and other things like that. So for me, it's mostly about portions. In the cookbook coming up and there's a whole section is it's our one bowls. And there are periods of our life that those are just coming out of our kitchen all the time. So they're pretty close to a macrobiotic type of eating. So it's a sauteed green with a quinoa or a rice or a millet, and then maybe a baked yam or some sauteed bananas or some fresh avocado
Starting point is 00:36:07 with a sauce, some kind of sauce, whether it's gluten-free tamari. It could be like a ginger glaze with some fresh ginger root and fresh turmeric, or it could be just like a cashew cheese sauce with some nutritional yeast in it, which has a lot of B vitamins. And make sure also that you guys are getting B12. Make sure you're taking a B12 supplement and incorporating nutritional yeast into your diet as much as possible. Next one. This one is from Wade. what's up wade um wade asks i would love some tips and lessons you have learned along the way of your podcasting journey so i can get off to a good start this
Starting point is 00:36:56 guy's uh looking to start a podcast focusing on vegans in business and providing business tips for vegan entrepreneurs all right well awesome man uh awesome, man. Very cool. So, you know, things that I've learned along the way, I think the first thing is, I don't know, you know, it's not like I had it all planned out. And when I decided to do it, like we just started it, you know, and it's kind of gone on its own journey. But I think the most important thing that I've learned has nothing to do with what kind of mic you're using or what your audio setup is or, you know, all of that kind of technical stuff. You'll learn how to do that the way that works for you as you go along. The most important thing to me is, you know, what are you doing that no one else is doing? Like, what is your sort of, you know, place in the marketplace? Like, what kind of content are you going to be putting out that, you know, isn't already readily available or being done by somebody else?
Starting point is 00:37:51 So I think that's the first thing. Like, not that it has to be contrived, but I think that you have to say, oh, you know, I'm interested in this subject matter and I couldn't find it anywhere. So that's a niche that could be filled. So I think that's important. And then the second thing is, if you're going to be doing an interview show, I mean, the most important thing that I've learned over the 140 episodes of doing this is that what's much more important to me is the most important thing to me is having an authentic exchange and experience with the person that I'm talking to. And that trumps everything else. That trumps the information. That trumps the questions. It trumps the answers.
Starting point is 00:38:30 For me, it has to feel like we connected and through that dance that occurs, something genuine was expressed. So the information must be subservient to that. And so that means that you have to be prepared for your interviews, but then you have to be willing to throw that script out and just be present with what's happening and guide it, but let it guide you as well. So what I found is that when I do, when I'm a guest on a lot of shows, the person has come to the interview with their list of questions, and they're much more interested in making sure they get through all their questions than they are in what your response to those questions is, right? So in an interview, like kind of
Starting point is 00:39:15 interviewing 101 is, your next question is always built into the response that the person is giving to you. And if you're listening, you'll always know what your next question is if you're really listening. But if you're not listening and you're looking at your list of questions, what happens is the question gets asked, I'll answer the question, and then there's a pause and the person says, awesome.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And then they ask the next question on the list. And to me, that's fine, I get it. But to me, that's not a dance. That's not a, I feel like it's a missed opportunity, right? It's not really a conversation. It's kind of a one-way street as opposed to this spherical, you know, kind of organic living thing that has its own, you know, life and kind of, you know, place that it wants to go. Right. So that's my biggest advice.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Well, I think that's really profound advice. And I think that the way that you just express that, you know, is, is like a commentary on how the podcast for you has become a meditation and mindfulness, actually. So you're actually open. You have an idea of where you're going, but you're open to be in the moment. What you're looking for is the energetic connection. to the amount of success or what you're calling success is tied to your ability to be present in the moment with the person you're connecting to. That's meditation. Sorry, I didn't hear anything.
Starting point is 00:40:58 You just said I was thinking about something else. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, that's the difference. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Yeah. So, I mean, that's the difference. And I mean, well, the way that Rich does podcasts and, you know, prefers to, and sometimes he makes, you know, an exception to this is that you, you know, you're looking for the one-on-one sitting in the room with the person. So, you're not doing a bunch of Skype interviews, which makes it very, very rough if you don't, if you have a big network. I've broken my rule and done Skype interviews from time to time with varying levels of success. But, you know, all things being equal, like, you know, I would always, I always, you know, want, like I always require that it's an in-person thing because that's what it's about for me. And it doesn't matter how compelling the person is on Skype. You're not getting the best version of what it would be if you were actually staring them in the face while it's happening. It's just different, you know, and that's what I'm looking for.
Starting point is 00:41:49 That's much more important to me than, you know, making sure that, you know, that a certain kind of kernel of information is expressed. And that's different from other people. Like, you know, I don't have any judgment on it one way or the other. That's just the way that I prefer to do it. And that's what I found that I'm good at. And so, you know, because I don't know, you know, that's what I try to do to distinguish what I'm doing from what other people are doing. And sometimes that makes it tricky because they're, you know, if I did Skype interviews, then I would have access to a lot more people and I could put up more episodes. And, you know, I could get people on more timely with what they're doing. And, you know, it would just be a very different
Starting point is 00:42:28 animal. So I realized that it takes me longer to get to certain people that I want to interview because we have to be in the same place and all of that kind of stuff. So it puts it on more of a slow burn kind of thing. And, you know, I'm at peace with that. I'm fine with that. But to this guy's question, Wade's question. Yeah. I mean, I think I would really, you know, sit down and write out like, what is it that you want to do? Look at what other people are doing in the related space. How is yours going to be different? Why should somebody tune in to listen to you, as opposed to the alternative and try to come up with something unique and different. And I think it's great. I love the podcasting medium. I love the fact that it's having this moment right now, this kind of moment where it's never been more popular, which is so ironic because it's kind of the original form of media back to- Free radio.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah, like radio. And I love the fact that people are out there starting podcasts left and right. So good luck to you. Cool. So let's move on. Carson Gross has a question. What are some first steps that a person can take to begin sharing things they've learned? For me, this relates mostly to nutrition and running. How can I start helping others discover these things that have helped me so much in my life? So I think you could take that. It doesn't matter that it's about running or whatever it is. It's just this idea of taking something that you're interested in and you're passionate about and kind of, you know, flipping the switch and getting into kind of service or this, you know, more of a, you know, teacher or mentor or, you know, kind of role? I mean, I think one of the key things that we all have to go through in our evolution in the trajectory of becoming ourselves and returning home to who we really are is, is, you know, sort of a process of learning and unfolding and discovery. And I really feel like the only place
Starting point is 00:44:27 that you can share from is from personal experience, right? Because that's all we all have. And what I would sort of raise a little caution or a little awareness to take a look at, little caution or a little awareness to take a look at to make sure that you're not running a program of, you know, I want to help people before you've hit a certain level of actualization in your own development. So, you know, I can speak to, you know, Rich and I had this, you know, this vision of the Plant Power Way. It was called Jai Lifestyle and it was, you know, existed 12 years ago when we first got our land and we had, you know, a website and we were doing yoga retreats in Italy and design and we had a tribe community, you know, where we would gather, we would have events, all this type of stuff. And on the surface, it was all seemingly really good stuff that we were trying to develop.
Starting point is 00:45:27 And the truth of the matter is both of us had a lot of transformation that we needed to go through before we could really serve and service. So I don't know you, so I don't know where you are in your journey. So I would just say, again, the only place you can start is within yourself, and it must be very personal. So if what you're looking for is an authentic path to service, and then by doing that and by going deeper into yourself and into your own process and sharing that as authentically and transparently as possible, your life will then provide you certain transformational experiences. Some will be extremely challenging, and you might be questioning your choices, and some will be beautiful and expansive. It will be the whole box.
Starting point is 00:46:20 So that's what I think. And I also would say that we all have to be very, very mindful in the fact that we're moving in a world where, you know, you're required to make money. You know, there's a business kind of world running and then it's your own spiritual evolution. So how do we bridge those two things? And I think it's very, very crucial to be very careful that you are not projecting your energy in any way via products, via opinions, via judgments on other people, telling them that this is the way they should do it. Because that is not balanced energy. So the only thing you can do is share from your experience with no manipulation and no coercion or wanting for anybody to be like you. So it is a very transparent process. And I feel like if you stay within those boundaries and you're just like,
Starting point is 00:47:24 I'm sharing from my heart and this is what happened to me, you can stay clear of certain karmic trappings that will trip you up if you, you know, get in the illusion that you know the way for someone else and you're going to show them how to do it. Yeah, I mean, I think that's wise, I would add a little bit of a caveat to that. I mean, there was some, there's some, some sense in your response that, you know, it's important to make sure that you're kind of well down your path of learning and knowledge and whatever it is that you want to share. And I think that, I mean, that's always evolving and progressing and continuing. There's no destination to that. I think that, you know, if you have gained some experience, that there is always value in sharing that as long as you're sharing it, as Julie said, in the context of your own experience, as opposed to some kind of, you know, lecture based approach.
Starting point is 00:48:27 In recovery, they say, you know, like people come in, you know, they get sober, they put together a couple days, maybe a couple weeks, and they really don't know anything about recovery. But somehow they've managed to stay sober for however short period of time that is. And there's a sense, you know, with most of these people, like, well, I don't really know what I'm doing. I don't have anything. You know, I have, there's no way that I can help anyone because I don't, I still don't know what I'm doing. But that person has had an experience that somebody who walks through the door, who's on their first day of sobriety has not yet experienced. And so there's value and wisdom that that person can then share with that newcomer that maybe that newcomer will be able to receive because that person is going to be able to relate to the person who only has a couple weeks of
Starting point is 00:49:16 sobriety because the person who has 10 years, that just, they can't connect with that emotionally. Right. So there is, there is, you know, this idea that like, let's say you put it in the running context, like somebody just ran their first 5k, they lost a bunch of weight, they ran their first 5k, they did it very slowly. Now, this person is not an expert on running, is not necessarily an expert on anything, but they were able to accomplish something. And I think to be able to share that experience to somebody else who has not yet run a 5K and is intimidated by that has value. Yeah, I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I mean, completely, 100% agree. And yes, everybody has something to share from where they are in their journey. I guess I was speaking a little bit more to the tendency in some of us to, you know, get a little bit of experience and then think that we need to go out and save the world, which in fact, we need to start right at home within our own selves. And by starting at home and focusing at home and looking at yourself, you can then be a much greater healer, teacher, leader, you know, by that. But yes, there is, you know, everybody has something to share. And if it's shared from your level of experience from a pure and authentic place, and from a place of humility and a place of
Starting point is 00:50:32 transparency, it is powerful, you know, across the board. All right, let's move on to a different question. This one is going to be for Julie. It's from Jen Robinson. Rich often talks about the difficulties that men face as they enter or walk the path of wellness and are perceived to be less masculine. Can you please talk about the difficulties or unique gender experiences that women face along this path. I mean, do you, do you have thoughts on that? Ask me the question again. Can you talk about the difficulties or unique gender experiences that women face along this
Starting point is 00:51:16 path? So is there something inherent to being a female that creates some kind of unique experience about you being, you know, plant-based or, you know, I don't know. Not really. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not really feeling that. Let me see if I can feel into what she's asking. We got to leave Jen with something. Jen, we got to give you something. I'm trying to feel in. Well, let's see. Hmm. No, I mean, usually there's not, because it's not in this, in this world, it's not, you know, it's not viewed wimpy, you know, to then embrace plant, a plant-based diet. You know, it's like, you know, she's the alternative yoga hippie girl. So maybe that would be it. I mean, I would say, I would say one case where I could share this experience is when I was faced with a golf ball-sized cyst that showed up
Starting point is 00:52:07 in my neck rather quickly. And I went to doctors to get it checked out and had an MRI and everything. And when I decided that I was going to treat it naturally through the use of plant medicine and Ayurveda, I was marginalized by the doctors. I was patted on the head. I was also marginalized by Rich Roll, who's looking at me right now from behind the mic. He didn't tell me. The part that you left out is that every specialist said that it was never going to go away short of surgery. And that was just a fact.
Starting point is 00:52:41 And this was a long time ago, and I had a different perspective on things. So, yeah, I was concerned. I was like, the doctors are telling you, like, they've told you you know, and this was a long time ago and I had a different perspective on things. So, yeah, I was concerned. I was like, the doctors are telling you, like, they've told you, you can't do this. Like, what are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. And so, so yeah, so I would say probably now I'm getting more to the core. Thanks, Jen. Now I'm getting more to the core of what the question is for me. And that is that because I have chosen a wellness lifestyle and because I know that there is power in the plants and that they carry actually an energetic communication and resonance, which actually restored my body to a perfect balance as it was created to heal itself, I am often marginalized by a lot of people or that is their opinion to me. She's the hippie chick or don't know, you know, that many other people that have had the courage to actually go down that road and face my, you also, I would say maybe one of my biggest wounds is other people feeling me to be so different from them, because I don't feel a difference between me and anybody. So I'm always the last to know. I sort of have this kind of childlikeness about me where,
Starting point is 00:54:23 you know, I can be in a group and just not feel any separation. And then when I leave the group, they're like, whoa, she was really strange. Yeah. I've witnessed that firsthand, by the way, where we'll be in a group of people and you'll start sharing some, you know, perspective that you don't realize in your mind. Like I have a, I have a pretty acute ability to kind of survey a room and, and kind of know where everyone's coming from. Like I can kind of intuit that or empathize with everybody's perspective. And I'm probably too sensitive to that. I have this like people pleasing thing. And I think that's how I was able to develop that awareness. Whereas you don't
Starting point is 00:55:00 really care. You're just like, Hey man, I'm here. And here, here's what I think. And then like, Whereas you don't really care. You're just like, hey, man, I'm here. And here's what I think. And then you'll lay something out. And I'm very aware, like, whoa, this is like. Oh, no, she did it again. But you're like, yeah, but you're not aware that that's how it's landing.
Starting point is 00:55:20 And so sometimes we've had conversations where I was like, yeah, you might want to dial that back a little bit next time. Dial that in a little bit. And you're like, what do you mean? Well, I can't. Again, it's like the journey for me is just being who I am. That's all I can be. You know, it's kind of between me and me and me. And so I think that that's been challenging. But, you know, I also know that, you know, I know that there's wisdom in this way. And so I have to take refuge in knowing that even if somebody thinks I'm a
Starting point is 00:55:50 little weird or I'm a little off base, something I say, something I offer, maybe one little morsel of that is something that they take with them or sticks with them and maybe it inspires them and maybe it doesn't and it's all okay. By the way, Jen loves your music and she'd like to hear more of it. And she wants to know if you're planning on writing your own memoir. Oh, Jen, thank you. That's so sweet. Thank you for listening to my music. It's just been one of the dearest, dearest expressions of my life. And I always greatly appreciate it when people take the time to listen to my music. It's created with my boys over seven years as we became musicians together. And I still pinch myself that I even got to experience that while I'm alive. Yes,
Starting point is 00:56:39 I am writing my own memoir. As a matter of fact, I wrote, I had over 500 pages done. And I was writing it in a sort of in a perspective of a homeschool movement. And that has now been put on hold. So I now have a new timeline, I have an agent, and I have a new structure. And I am actually diving back into that. So yes, I am am writing my own memoir and thank you for asking. And I hope to connect with you down the path. Thanks, Jen. Cool. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:14 This one's from Lisa Manchi and she wants to talk about being plant-based on a budget. I mean, basically she's saying eating uh, eating plant-based has become easier and fun for our family, but I continue to struggle with our purchases of other items in the high price tag that can sometimes come with those purchases. I constantly am in an internal struggle when I go shopping because I haven't done enough research or any at all. And I'm not sure what went into the process of making all of our belongings or if I'm paying twice as much for nothing. I don't want to drive myself crazy worrying about this, but I would love to learn how to keep making conscious decisions to be ethical when it comes to providing our family
Starting point is 00:57:55 with all the extras. I worry about everything from the next pair of running shoes I need to our shampoo. Can you help navigate the right road to living more ethically and putting the fun back into shopping? So this is great question that I think brings up a lot of different things. I mean, we're, you know, we can talk about food and how to, you know, shop plant based more economically, which is certainly something that everybody is interested in. And then how do you kind of extend that awareness into the other consumer choices that you're making? You know, this podcast has really been an exploration and expanding that awareness that we're bringing to food to other things like we had Joshua Ketcher on and we're learning about how our clothes are made, where they're coming from. And, you know, when you when you talk to the food babe, you learn
Starting point is 00:58:40 about or, you know, with her and other people like, you know, some of the things that are going into our foods and, you know, how to be more aware of that. And Gene Bauer said something interesting when I interviewed him, which is that, you know, all of this is really, you know, when it comes to being, you know, making more conscious consumer choices, it's an aspiration. You know, we all live in this world, right? If you drive in a car or you ride in an airplane, like nobody is going to be perfect. Like we all are leaving some kind of footprint behind and we can't, you know, walk this path without living in a, you know, a cave in complete isolation without, you know, having some kind of impact. So it's about trying to be better
Starting point is 00:59:21 and being more aware, but also understanding that you're not going to do it perfect. And, you know, you've got to make peace with that, I think, on some level, because otherwise you're going to make yourself insane. Yeah, I mean, you know, again, it's an evolution revolution. So it's always moving. It's a process. Everybody's in their own space at their own time. I do think that the key place to focus on this is with your food because it's the most important aspect with what you're putting in your mouth is affecting the planet at large. So I would share with you that, you know, I share a little bit of your pain, although I know without a doubt with complete resolve that our food, the quality of the food that is in our home is the number one most important expense in our life. So we spend a lot on food, and I feel really good about it.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And I had some friends over a couple weeks ago, and one of them said to me, well, isn't this kind of eating really expensive? And sort of just spontaneously out of my mouth came, it's not as expensive as cancer. And everybody kind of stopped. They were like, whoa, they were like, you should, you know, write that that should be a blog post or something. And I didn't mean to say it. So I didn't have any energy behind it. But it just came out of my mouth. And and that is really the truth. That's in it doesn't have to be cancer. But the point is, is that it is the most important thing you could be spending money on. So I don't think you should feel badly about making sure that you have the best ingredients that you can find at the most, you know, the best prices that you can find.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Of course, be mindful, buy online, you know, buy local, you know, go to Trader Joe's, get a subscription to Thrive Market, you know. Yeah,, you know, go to Trader Joe's, get a subscription to Thrive Market, you know. Yeah, Thrive Market is a great, that's a great cost savings right there. I mean, Thrive Market is basically an online Whole Foods that our friend Gennar started. I think it's just thrivemarket.com. And we're actually offering free memberships and discount codes with the pre-order campaign for our book. When you pre-order our book, you get a free membership. And essentially, they have so many of the products that you would ordinarily buy at Whole Foods, but at something like 20% to 40% cheaper. And of course, it gets shipped to you, right? But that's a great way right there to start exploring
Starting point is 01:01:41 increasing the nutritional quality of your foods without breaking your bank or trying to do it more on in a budget conscious way right so you can do that or you can you know buy in bulk you know through amazon or you know i have a bunch of mason jars in my pantry and uh you know just get your nuts.com nuts.com like, you know, get your self-established with the foundation that you need and then fill in with the farmer's market as you go. And then with the other stuff, I would say, yeah, it's a, we're all, we all have a footprint. So we all have to keep looking at our lives. How can we change that footprint? Then maybe the focus goes to your cleaning products.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Like what are you using in your house? You know, what chemicals are you using in your house? You know, what, what, what chemicals are you using in your house that are there? So you can move, you know, to a little bit different awareness there. Shampoo, toothpaste, laundry detergent, soap detergent. Right. All that kind of stuff that's around your house. And then, you know, start looking at your clothes, where, you know, where your clothes made, you know, I think the one place that a lot of vegans are very challenged is with, you know, leather products with shoes, you know, just because it's, there's a limited, there is not as many, you know, resources as there are for other things. But what I would tell you, the other thing that I do a lot is I shop
Starting point is 01:02:59 vintage, I buy vintage clothes and shoes, so that at least, you know, it's not causing new harm. You know, the harm's already there and I can use it and repurpose it. So I'm a big advocate of shopping in vintage stores using, you know, things that have already been used. And then I would say, though, that it sounds to me like you're having a little bit of a struggle, which is creating a little bit of, you know, violence within your own being. And what I mean, this is like resistance, like unease, like you feel uneasy about everything that you're doing. And you certainly do not want to live your life like that. So you have to get to a place where you make the best decision that you can in the moment and then you let it go.
Starting point is 01:03:44 You know, it's not you're not going to be perfect. where you make the best decision that you can in the moment and then you let it go. You're not going to be perfect. You're not going to get the list and be right to the letter down the line. So it's going to be a process. So allow yourself the process and focus on the things that you did that made a difference and don't focus on the things that aren't in, aren't, that aren't in the lifestyle. Yeah, I think that's, that's wise. Good. All right, let's do one more.
Starting point is 01:04:12 This one is from Alex Buell. And Alex asks, let's see. I have been noticing something interesting lately whenever i eat some meals my stomach has been saying stop you're full before i would normally be full this person is is embarking on the plant based way of eating uh have you guys run into this uh the problem is i feel as though i should be eating more but my body is saying no i can't decide if this is my body's response to adequate nutrient uptake or to an adverse reaction to a certain food. It's so funny and ironic because most people are looking to, they would just love to be full eating something healthy, but they're like, I can't get full doing that. So I eat lousy foods. And then suddenly this person is like
Starting point is 01:05:03 eating healthy and is freaking out because it's making Alex full and that's disconcerting. I would say it's doing exactly what it's supposed to be doing. I mean, I think that, look, without knowing specifics about you and what you were doing before, I can't make like some kind of crazy medical diagnosis. But I would say, I would imagine that what is happening is you have increased the nutrient density in your food, which means that the foods you are eating are much higher in micronutrients and phytonutrients and minerals and vitamins and all of those sorts of things. And those are the things that, you know, your body really needs. When you're eating the standard American diet, you're eating a very high calorie diet, but you're not eating a very
Starting point is 01:05:42 nutrient dense diet, right? So you can get fat while also starving yourself because your body really needs those nutrients in order to function properly. So now you're giving your body that and the body saying, thank you. I don't need anymore. I have what I need. And that is alarming. You know, I think the other thing too is volumetrics. And this is what Chef AJ talks about all the time, which is if you eat, you know, a tablespoon of oil that has a certain number of calories and you're not going to be full and the equal amount of calories would in vegetables would fill your entire stomach and make you full, right? So when you're eating plant-based foods, there's so much fiber and all of that, and it
Starting point is 01:06:22 tends to, you know, fill you up. And it will be lower in calories, but higher in nutritional quality. And I think that that is, you know, a good path to be on. And I have one thing to add. I think that it is immensely powerful that you are getting a message from your body and that you can hear it. So that right there is a huge, huge, huge evolution. I would say listen to your body always and do not listen to your mind. So your body is telling you that it's full and then your mind is coming back like, wait, something might be wrong. Just listen to your body. Your body knows. Your body will guide you into eating and living the way that is right for you. I think that's a nice place to end it for today. Okay. Thanks, Frank. Yeah, beautiful.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Anything else you want to say? Did we do it? I think we did it. Cool. Well, thanks for taking this little journey with us today, everybody. That was awesome. We're going to be doing another one of these next week. That's right. I'll be back. She'll be back next week. So keep sending us your Q&A questions. Send them to info at richroll.com.
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