The Ricky Gervais Show / An Idiot Abroad - Guide To... S1E4 "Philosophy" (March 17, 2009)

Episode Date: September 5, 2022

A new series, called The Ricky Gervais Guide to... featured the trio discussing various topics in their entirety during individual 50 min episodes. The first volume The Ricky Gervais ...Guide to... Medicine was released on 31 December 2008. This was followed by The Ricky Gervais Guide to... Natural History on 21 January 2009. This in turn was followed by The Ricky Gervais Guide to... The Arts on 18 February 2009. The 4th episode, The Ricky Gervais Guide to... Philosophy aired on 17 March while the 5th and final episode of season 1, The Ricky Gervais Guide to... The English followed on 21 April (2 days prior to St. George's Day).

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This audio program is presented by Audible.com. Audible. Audio that speaks to you wherever you are. Hello, I'm Ricky Javais. Philosophy is the science which considers truth. So said Aristotle, one of the great forefathers of Western philosophy. In its attempt to seek out the truths and principles of human existence, philosophy must answer questions of beauty, of justice, of language, indeed, of the mind itself. To help me consider some of the core concepts and presumptions of philosophical
Starting point is 00:00:53 inquiry, I'm joined by Stephen Merchant, graduate of the University of Warwick, an award-winning writer. It's a pleasure to be here. And Carl Pilkinton, a man with no education, didn't really go to school, no awards, head like a fucking orange, you know the twat. All right. To me, philosophy might be the greatest subject of all academic subjects, the mother of science, asking the big questions, why are we here, how do we live? But it's been sort of mugged and kidnapped by those people who put rubbish under the umbrella of philosophy. Right. Cod
Starting point is 00:01:34 philosophy. I went into a library once, I looked in the philosophy section, and there was what by Doris Stokes. Doris Stokes being for those that don't know? A medium who said she was talking to the dead as crystals, Feng Shui. Oh, God. The interesting thing about Feng Shui is how, I remember someone came to an office I was working in once and she said, you're going to need crystal here above the lavatory to get all the negative chi out of the system, and she said this crystal is 25 pounds. And the lavatory to get all the negative chi out of the system and she said this crystal is 25 pounds and the guy went we're not going to spend that and she went okay I got one here for five brilliant it was surprisingly convenient that she had a number of different crystals apparently did the same job
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Starting point is 00:02:56 As a novice, one of the key catch phrases if you like a philosophy and one that's always intrigued and confused me a little is the famous Rennie Descartes quote, I think, therefore I am. A lot of people think of that as the epitome in a way of a philosophical statement. First thing we ever did, I think, at degree level, and it's the one thing I'd already heard of. It is one of those things that sort of, Phil was down, Coghago, Cogied, Cogier. Cogicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicic. That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. A, th. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A lot, thi. A lot, thi. A lot of people, a lot of people, a lot of people, a lot of people, a lot of people, a lot of people thi. A lot of people thi. A lot of people thi. A lot of thi.fore I am when Descartes was pondering his existence. Just before we get to his conclusion, Carl, how do you know this isn't a dream? Uh, just because I haven't been sleeping that well. Right, okay. No. But you could still be dreaming, couldn't you? Because? Just because I haven't been sleeping that well. No, okay. No, but you could still be dreaming, couldn't you, because this could be a dream
Starting point is 00:03:51 that you haven't been sleeping lately. You could be dreaming the last few nights you haven't been sleeping? Uh, in dreams, the different, like I said, I don't have that many of them, because I don't sleep that well. But when I do have one, there's something different, the, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, the different like, I mean, like I said, I don't have that many of them because I don't sleep that well, but when I do have one, there's something different and vivid about it. Now, if I was dreaming all this, I reckon my boiler would have been fixed ages ago. I don't think anyone has a dream that goes on for that amount of time. Well, it could be a nightmare, but I think you're also presuming that that the, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the the the the the the the the the the the presumption but I think you're also presuming that that the dream that you could be dreaming needs to be exactly the same as the dreams you think of when you're dreaming what my point is there's no way of
Starting point is 00:04:32 you knowing that this life you're living now as you talk to us is real and that it's not actually the imaginings of another Carl there are actually no clues now that this is the real thing. Well sometimes most of the time it's one minute I'm awake, next minute I'm asleep, then I'm awake again. Sleeps just... You know the bit between you being awake and awake again? That's called asleep. Now do you ever think things while you're asleep? It's that bit between the awake and awake I want to look at... I tell you. I tel you, most the the the the the the the the the the the the the t the t the t the t the t most the t most the t the t the time the time time time time time time time time time time time most time time time time time time time time time time time of of of of of of of of of of of of the time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time the time th time th time th time thi thi of thi the time of of the time of of of the time of of of of of of the time of of of of of of of of of of the time the time think things while you're asleep? It's that bit between the awake and awake I want to look at. I told you about one ages ago where you burst in and I was on the toilet. I never had this dream.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah, yeah, the one that it was all, it was like, everyone was German and it was at some gig or something and you opened the door and everyone was looking and laughing at me and I'm sat on the toilet and you sort of said oh that's probably because you're uncomfortable with being put on the limelight. Yeah, I don't know that you might be out, yeah possibly yeah. But that's one dream. It could be true. Exactly. Or there is a likelihood that you think I bet he's going to burst in. I the thak is thak. I bet thin. I bet thin. I bet thin. I bet th. I bet th. I bet th. I bet th. I bet th. I bet th. I bet th. I bet thin thin thin' thin' thin' thin' the. the. the thin' thin' the the. You're that you're that you're that you're that he's that he's that he's that he's that he's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thin thin' thin' th. thin' their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thin' the. You're the. he busy at the moment? You have to wait until he's on the phone to go for a bit. I have to sit there holding the lock. Yeah. It's a weird thing to do.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It's not normal. It's not normal. It's not a normal. But there's anthis is a dream, but that you cannot know the truth of what you're experiencing. You cannot know that this is reality. It's a question about reality. So let's go on to that then, what reality is and what we like about reality. Robert Knows did this thing, if you could go into a flotation tank and you led a whole virtual life and it was the best life possible. You did exactly what you've always wanted.
Starting point is 00:06:26 You became the person you wanted to be, you did the best things you could ever dream of doing and you literally couldn't tell the difference. So it was your life, okay? And you lived your biological life out in that tank and died at 80 and had the best life any person could ever have. You could pre-program it. Would you get into that tank knowing what you know now, knowing that you would have the best life ever with no heartache, no upset, no loved ones dying?
Starting point is 00:06:56 So what's happening when I'm sort of having a packet of munchies? Yeah. Am I having them or are they imaginary? They're imaginary but you can't tell the difference. It's the best packet of munches we ever had. I love the fact that you went into the flotation tank and your one provisor was are munches as good? Yeah. Absolutely. I'm just taking it back to basics. That is right. You've got a pre-programmed your life. That's where you'd start is it? Munches must always taste magnificent. Well it's just if you can still enjoy the basic things in life then that's when you can't go wrong. You do. You enjoy the mo- you are the, you're the, it's the life you'd ever want to live and you're living it. Sorry? Bit dangerous. Why go on? Why? Bit dangerous? Why? A bit dangerous? Why? Why? Why, why don't? Why? Why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why? Why? Why? Why, why? Why, why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, the? Why, the? Why, the? Why, the? Why, the? Why, the? Why, the? Why, the? Why, the? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why, why? Why know, because sometimes I think things don't happen for the best, right? Right? Sometimes you can sort of think, oh, I'll enjoy that if that happens.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And then it doesn't happen, and you've had time to think about what would have happened. Oh, but this is perfect. No, this is built in because whatever happens is for the best. So not only when you're in this flotation tank, are you enjoying yourself, the things just keep getting better or staying as good. So you never have a bad day? You never have a bad day? But how long would that last for before you go and fed up with this? Well, why once you're in there you don't know you're not aware of being the flotation tank you're living your life and it's perfect you're happy. Well we don't know how you would be happy well you just have munches every day and well yeah you're getting it then if you don't
Starting point is 00:08:34 know you've got in this tank if I somehow go to bed at night someone in the tank and then they they they they they they they go they go they go they go they go they they go they go they go they go they go they they go they they go they they they they they they they they they they they they go they go they they go they they they they they the they they they they they they they they'll they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they th th the the te te try try try try try ttry to try ttry to to to try to to to the the the the the him in the tank now and then I wake up packet them when she's there sun's out uh Suzanne goes oh it's a nice day we'll go on do something nice right you're meant to be at work she goes no I don't have to go in today right let's go out then now what's interesting there is that within the scenario I gave you any any life you could do anything and you chose the exact life you've got now, except Suzanne's got a day off. Now I both love that. Well I was a bit suspicious though that she's just taken a day off. No way it's not happening now, it's not happening, really happening, you can do anything you
Starting point is 00:09:15 like, but I like the fact now you're even questioning and you're not in the tank and why is Suzanne got a day off, right. right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, and why, and why, and why, and why, and why, and why, and why, and why, and why, and why, and why, and why is the the the the the the the the the thi, and why is the thi, and why is thi, and why is thi, and why is thi, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is, and why is the the the the the the their, and why is their, and why is their, and why is their, why is their, their, their? And their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the th the thi's th thi's th thi? th th thi. And th that because that suggests to me that you're a nice, happy, satisfied, whatever you want to do it, contented person, who's got the perfect life. However, it's almost like you haven't fully understood the possibilities. For example, you wake up, there's the munches, sunny day, Suzanne's not a work, you know, why aren't you a work? She goes to you, hold on a tho' theylip. to, why. to, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, their?? their? their? their, their, their, their, their, their, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why? their? their? their? their? their? their. She. She. She. She. She. their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the their. the their. their. their, their. I just can but you hadn't even thought that maybe you could fly or swim or hold your breath you just got some bunches for breakfast. Hang on a minute this is day one okay when you go on holiday yeah like I said before you don't you don't turn up and go right it's one o'clock jet ski for half an hour bungee jump in 40 minutes after that yeah yeah to have a nice rotter and you know you know you the the they. they. you they. you you you you the you the you the you the try the try try try try to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. try a little cocktail. And what do you do? What do you do when you arrive there? Well you get there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Uh, the fella takes your case to the room. Right. You have that panic of, am I going to give him too much money? I don't know the currency well enough yet. I don't know how much things are. More than the most mundane scenario. Right, okay. So you have that scenario, you go right, where's me shorts? You get them on. You go out and have a wander. You have a wand around to know where everything is. The shop, you know, how close the beach is, is it busy? Yeah. Okay, you're just telling us what
Starting point is 00:10:36 happens when you're going on holiday. What's your point? Okay. Because you don't want fun all in one go. You want to build to it because that's sometimes the their their their their their their. You're their. You're their. You're their. their. their. their. their. to to their. to to to their. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to build to it because that's sometimes part of it. Right, yeah, okay so anticipation yeah good yeah yeah that little bit yeah it's about things taking time in it and looking back at the journey and go how did I get here? Okay well can I ask a question? Sorry I'm just what I'm fascinated to know is if you decided to sign up to the float tank the idea okay you can design the the the the the the the the the the the to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is. th is. th is. thin. to to to to to to to to to to to the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.................................................... Okay, you can design your perfect life. But I prefer not to know I'm doing it. No, you don't know. But I want to ask this question. Imagine Ricky and I are the doctors, okay, we can put you in this tank. All we need to know from you now is what your perfect life.
Starting point is 00:11:10 All we need to know from you now is what your perfect life is. We're going to program it in the computer in the computer in the computer in the perfect life? You're still obviously living with Suzanne. We've got munches. We've got munches and we've got the sunshine. But what else would you like in your magical life of, your ultimate life? I think I prefer hair? No, because then I'd know it's not real. No, you would never know. No, no, it just came back. Suzanne comes in one day and goes, why don't you're working? I've left my job. Can we leave the why I am at work? I'm always going to be here. Right? I've got a new tonic, right, from boots. She pops it on your air. Boop, baby, gorilla.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yeah, I don't like this idea. Suddenly Suzanne's never at work. I just think you need a bit of the badness to have the goodness. Right. Right. In a minute, you're going to be injected in the head. You're going to to sleep, you're going to be in a photochate, but you are going to suddenly leave this office and it's going to be a virtual world. You can do what you want. You can suddenly go, what was I hanging around with that bloke off the office for? I'm a spy. And you go to my five. And they go to my my my my my my my my my them. And them. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And the the the the the th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. he's got the, bang, what do you do, watch your scenario, what do you do as a job? We've got munches, Suzanne's never worked. I prefer to leave everything as it is. Brilliant, right. Go in it, but have everything the same so that I'm going, hang on a minute, as it actually happened. What's you're talking about this? You don't know anything that's happened? No, right, the, to, to, th. th. to, th. to, the, th. to, the, th. to, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, to, thi, thi, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. What, th. What, th. What, togue, togu. What, togu.a, togu. What, togu. What, togu. What, th. What, th. What, their, their, their, th. What are you talking about? No, you don't know about this, you don't know anything that's happened.
Starting point is 00:12:45 No, because you've just said, you're gonna, you're gonna put me in the tank and you're asking questions as to what I want when I get in it. No, no, no, you won't know. Once you're in the tank, you won't know. You'll have a new life, you'll have different, you''t born in Manchester. I prefer it to be the same with the same memories, but the difference is when a next get British gas round, they go, oh Mr Wilkinson, yesterday. Oh God!
Starting point is 00:13:12 So he's like to have a virtual life so his boiler is fixed! No, no, no, no, no, no. So your boy still goes wrong in your dream but it gets fixed. But you don't even need the to even even even even even to to to to need need need need need need need to the to to the to the to to the to the to the to the the the to the to the to the the the to the to their to their their to their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their. their their their their their th. thi. thi. thii. thiii. thii. thi. thi. their their their their their thi. their their their their their their temperature all the time to be anymore. I don't like the idea of too much change. I don't want that much of a change to me life. But you won't realise it won't feel like change. Well it's changed already. You're saying the boiler's been fixed like that. I prefer to still have that problem go, hang on a minute. Is this different?
Starting point is 00:13:38 To Zan's still go out of work. Right? That's really important too. But then, you don't want her around all day. But then, but then, things happen that wouldn't have happened in this world. Gosh, well okay, let's see the differences. What do you do? Because I've got a program this. So you've got the same job, all that. Are we still around? Uh, yeah, because it's to the ground and wind you up, try and stress you out, call you all hours? Do I still do all that? What am I like? You're still the same and you still do that but maybe one day ago don't do that anymore because it does annoy me and you go, okay? And then I've dealt with it, I've sorted that problem, as opposed to this machine, this tank, tank, tank, tank, tank, tank, tank, ta, to ta, to ta, to ta, ta, thank, thank, than, thin thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' to thi, I's, I's, I'm to to to to to to to thi, thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's tho, I's they their, I's their, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they.... I's they. Do, I's they. Do I's thr, I'm throwne, I'm throwne, I'm toge, toguu. togu. togu. togu. the, thrue, thrue, do thrue, do thrue, thr as opposed to this machine, this tank deciding. I don't like the idea of this tank making life good for me. I want a few problems and if there's a problem I want to sort it. Okay. But... We've hit the nail on the head there, we're going to go back to
Starting point is 00:14:33 this because it's fascinating, but Nose it concluded that no one would get into the tank because because we'd rather have a real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real life a real life the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their problem. their, their, their, their, and if their, and if their, and if their, and if their, and if their, and if their, and if their, and if their, and if their, and if their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their th thi. I sort of think you've proved that by even getting into the tank with your provisos and scenarios. I mean you've changed nothing except your boiler being fixed and me stop squeezing your head now and again. Which makes me think that you should have your boiler fixed and then you will have the perfect life that you can imagine. Yeah but it's that old chestnut in it. It's the thing of like what's my problem then. You've got the problem gene in your head.
Starting point is 00:15:12 You've got a problem hole in your head. Yeah, you're not, he's not a problem hole in your head. It's not a problem hole in your head. No. It's not. It's got. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the problem. It's. It's the problem. It's the problem. It's got. It's the problem. It's got. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. It's. It's a problem. the problem. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's got a problem hole in his head. It's called his mouth. Yes. Right, that is your problem hole. So if someone comes up and they go, I've fixed your boiler. Sorry, could I just say, no, let me ask one question, Steve. Is the problem hole different from the problem gene or is that a new term for... No, you put things through the problem hole and they end up in the problem gene..... So, the is that right Carl? It goes through the problem tube into the problem gene. Okay so it's down the problem we can't do it. Okay, go on and right. So it's better to have, you've got a problem hole in your head. So you stuff in a problem. Problems. Okay, yeah, okay. Now all the little problems. Is that good or bad? Is the problem? the problem, is the problem, is the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, so, so, so, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the problem, the, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, the problem, bad? But that's not true, is it? The problem hole is a standard size on everyone. Right, right? Shut up, Ricky, let me explain.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Now Ricky, I'd say, his problems, not even problems. Well, how big's his problem hole? Same size as mine. But his problems are all little ones. Like, you've got like a load of skittles. Right, but why... Shut up! Let him speak... He's just expanding on his idea. Why do you keep interrupting? What is his problem? What is your problem that's so big compared to my little skittles? No those problems. You get stressed out about things that I'm like, what's up with you? You get annoyed easily with stuff. People chewing loudly, or someone breathing, or someone coughing? Whereas I'm like, that doesn't matter. Like you say, to you, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, the boiler, th. thoom. tho, that, that, thoomorrow, thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. th. th. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to to to to to to to to to toe. to to to to to to to to to to to to the. to to the. you say, to you, the boiler, is like, get it ripped out, put a new one in. It's not as easy as that. It is. That's why the
Starting point is 00:16:49 problem ball is growing. It's a problem ball. It's got a gene, a ball and a hole. So the problem ball... No wonder there's no fucking room for a brain. Right, shut up. I want to clarify this. The problem ball. that the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. that. the problem ball. that. the problem ball. that. that. the problem ball. that. the problem ball. that. that. the problem ball is. the problem. that's. I the problem. I is. I the problem. I the problem. I the problem. I is. I is. I the problem. I the problem. I is the problem. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. the problem. the problem. the problem. I is. I is. the problem. the problem. I is. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. the problem. I want. I want. I want. I want. I want. I the problem. I and bigger, it has to go through the problem hole, down the problem tube into the problem tube. Bouncing to the problem tube. Right, lamen, so you've got the problem ball. Everyone's problem hole is the same size. But some people's problems are smaller so they can slip straight into the problem hole. I've got a question of problem balls? Or is it always just...
Starting point is 00:17:25 Could ladies have a pair of problem balls? No, because Hitler had one problem ball, didn't he? But could anyone ever have a pair of problem balls, is my question to you. And some people's problem balls are much bigger than another man's or another woman's, right? Yeah, depending on the problem. So you could have, you could have a pair of problem balls and one problem hole. The way I'm saying it. Okay, suppose I came to I said, listen,
Starting point is 00:17:48 A man starving in a foreign country might have huge problem balls. He might have, but if I went to the doctor and said, I've got a problem hole, and the doctor said, well let me see it, and I, you know, he said, let me see a problem hole. And hanging down in front of my problem hole was a huge pair of problem balls. What would he treat first is my question. Well would he look into the problem hole? He said right, he'd say, right, take your problem jeans off. I want to see your problem hole clearly. But he would fish, he would put his hand or his finger into the problem hole wouldn't he? He would try and remove the problem balls, but he'd have to insert his finger in the problem hole, right? Right, right? Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, wouldn, wouldn, wouldn, wouldn, wouldn, wouldn, wouldn? Well, wouldn't, wouldn't, w isn't, wn, wi, wi? Well, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, wo, well, well, well, wo, wo, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, well? Well, he? He? He? He? He? He? He? He? He? He? He? He? He? He's, he? He's, he? He'd, he's, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, right? Well, well, heart wouldn't he? Right. Okay, so, so Carl, go on then? I'll just get in a tank. Okay, so we're in a roundabout way, back to Cogito Urgo some, I think therefore I am.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Daycut, pondering, how do I know this isn't a dream? Well, the therefore I am, Descartes, pondering, how do I know this isn't a dream? Well, he concluded he doesn't. When he took it further to how do I know I even exist, he quite rightly concluded that, well, if I'm even pondering this question, I must exist. Whatever I am, wherever I am, the fact that I'm questioning, introspecting, thinking, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th exist. Whatever I am, wherever I am, the fact that I'm questioning, introspecting, thinking at all, I think therefore I am. Because I'm even thinking, at least I know one thing, that I exist. That's all he said, Carl. I don't understand why he had so much time on his hands to be worrying about this. At the end of they, get on with it it it, get th, get th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin.... And, thin. And, thin. And, thin. And, thin, thin, thin, thin, this. At the end of they get on with it. You're not doing shit all, Carl. So why are you so annoyed at other people who aren't doing anything? You're going out in the
Starting point is 00:19:30 morning, you're staring at worms, at bugs, you're staring at the sky. You're writing books. You're making up, you're making up the books. That isn't researched. What do you mean making it worse? What is it that you're doing? One of the chapters in your book about Travel was Australia. I've never been there myself. Forget it then, throw it away! No, because you can still have thoughts on. You make up, stuff about a grub, eating a biscuit. We're all the same, what I mean? What is that? That's not, that's not, that's not, but. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but. But. But. But. But. But. But. But. But. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. book. That book is absolutely pointless. It is in my lavatory, every time I pop in there for a shit.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Just take it off the shelf, have a little read. Great fun. And I'm down to about four pages, sometimes I forget to get boggle. But listen, that is a fun book to wipe your ass with him. It was me, but that book was the new day. I just got Wario on a problem owl. Empt the worry hole. Is that another, is that different to the problem, Al, your worriole? It's next to it. Once a problem ball is being processed through the hole,
Starting point is 00:20:32 is it deposited through the worry hole? All I'm saying is, you're right, I do watch a lot of insects and stuff. And you never see them them them them them them them them them them them the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their the wasting time. They're always doing something and ants carrying something somewhere. Sometimes I watch it and it goes somewhere and comes back again you think does it know what it's doing? But at least it's trying. What do you? Now if there was a big... What is it doing though? What is that? What is it? What is it doing? What is it's doing? What is it's doing? their to' theu. their the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their trying. trying. trying. trying. try. try. try. try. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. trying. ttrying. trying. trying. ttttt. I tell you what, if there was a bigger sort of being looking over the world and they went right, let's look at the human race and well they'd look at the ants first and they go right they've got their hands full, they carry in big stuff, they try to save time by carrying stuff that's way too big for them really. They could do that between three of them but they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th thed thed the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho to to tho to to the to tho to the the the button. They hit the human button, they watch the humans. The amount of people who are just sat about doing now, they're reading about Amy Winehouse, Lily Allen in London at 2 a.m. So what? What are we doing? I agree with you, but what are you doing? You see the ant analogy, joking aside, I think there, you hit on the fact that life is about working for what you get. And I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I think, I th, I th, thi, thi, that, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, thi, thin, thi, they they're all they're all they're all they're all they're all they're all they're all thin, they're thi, thi, thin, the that life is about working for what you get.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And I'm right behind that. I am right behind that. I think that's absolutely true. What's dangerous is? A boiling kettle to an ant. At the end of the day, right? Yeah, but that's evil, isn't it? What? You know, I don't, I mean, you sometimes make out as if I'm an evil man.
Starting point is 00:22:05 We had an ant problem in the garden. Suzanne said we've got to get rid of these. And I said, well it's a bit out of order, they are outside. She said, yeah, but they're getting a lot of them. She went and popped the kettle on. I said I can't handle this. I went in, right? What you didn't want want want see the ants burn. That's sweet, you know, they're dear. Yeah, they might be causing a problem but I don't want to see this this mess.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Now the thing is she went out, she poured the hot water on it, I left it a few minutes. I went out, I had a cup of tea I thought it was a waste of electrical. So I took my cup of tea out there and I'm sat there and there and there and there and there and there and there and there and their and their and their and their and their and their and then then then then then then then then their took. took took took took took took took took their their their took their their tooked to tooked to told their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. took. took. took took took took. took took took took tip. tipe. tipe. come back from wherever it had been. One ant. He looked devastated. Because that had been away. As far as that was concerned, it had been out to get a leaf or whatever. Came back, devastation. And it's that what, that's the thing that he summed up death for me that.
Starting point is 00:23:02 The ants that are dead, they didn't know anything. Suddenly they were there, next minute, a load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load load the that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, he that, he that, he that, he that, he that, he that, he that, he that, he that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that summed up death for me that. The ants that are dead, they didn't know anything. Suddenly they were there, next minute, load of water, dead. It's the people who are still living in life that are the saddest aren't they? And that summed it up. And that summed it up. That would have been better off being there when it happened. the antit. How could you tell the ant was. I mean. I. the ant, I. the ant, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the. It's, it's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it's, it. It's, it. It's. It's. what's going on? And what did it did it slow down when it got nearer the nest? Did it drop the leaf and then you see it run the last few inches? It just kind of got close and it was like a double-take almost like it got near the o'l and then it was like I'm gonna meant this can't be it because no one's around and it went back and it went back and it just it he he he he he he he they they they they they they they they they they they they th it th it th it th it th it th it th it th th th th th th th th th th was th was th was th was th was th was thus th is just th was th was th was th was th was th was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th is just the the the the thea' thean thean thean thean thean thean thean thean' the last th for me, that's the sort of thoughts Dacart should have been having. What?
Starting point is 00:23:49 Things that you can look at as a human and appreciate it and understand it and go, yeah, that's true, that is like life. Instead of, oh, I'm awake, I'm asleep, I'm asleep or what? You might as well be asleep. Oh, Dek else. Oh God! Oh, DeKah! Winehouse, Alan, slammed! What do you do towards enjoying your life? I don't normally enjoy the thing when I'm doing it, it's after. It's like that holiday.
Starting point is 00:24:20 What do you mean you don't enjoy the thing when you're doing it, it's after? What's an example of not enjoying the thing at the moment but you do after? You didn't enjoy the holiday? Say like the holiday, I've just been a one. Hang on a hold on. Hold on. I want to hear it. You enjoy the holiday. You didn't enjoy the holiday.
Starting point is 00:24:32 When I'm there, I had fleas, I've they it, I in the sea thinking is the stone fishing it in. Now you've got all that going on. When you get back, you forget about the damp smell. You forget about the fleas because the bites have gone. They're not as much of a problem. So then your brain starts going, well hang on. What did I enjoy? And you go, I enjoyed the deradefish I had. That's an experience. I'm going to have fleas on me again. Yeah. So you remember all the good stuff. It's like an old person when they dying and they go I'm having flashbacks.
Starting point is 00:25:06 They don't say I'm remembering the time my shoes were too tight. What do they say? They're having nice. They're going oh I love the time with that. That was wearing flip-flops. No, they enjoy they have flashbacks. Like what what? What does? What do? What? What? What? What is? What is? What is? What is? What is? What is? What is? What is? What is? What is? What is? What? What? What? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I'm? I? I? I'm saying? I'm saying? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I'm? I'm? I'm saying? I'm saying? I'm saying? I'm saying? I'm saying? I'm saying? I'm saying? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the lovely hot summer of 79. So you don't enjoy anything you enjoy while you're doing it? At the moment in time, it's always afterwards. I don't understand that. I mean that is the oddest thing I've ever heard about. I think there's actually a medical term for it. There's someone who's unable to enjoy, to have, to receive pleasure, to take pleasure. It's really weird. That is really weird. No because you're busy that weird that that that that that that that that the the the the that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the moment is really the moment is really weird the the moment is really weird. the moment is really weird. that is really weird. the moment is really weird. the moment is really weird. the moment is really weird. the moment is really weird. the moment. the moment. the moment. that is really weird. that is really weird. that is really weird. that is really weird. that is really weird. that is really weird. that is really weird. that is really weird. that is really weird. that is really really really really really really really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really. that is really weird. No because you're busy doing the thing. So you can't enjoy time to enjoy. So you can't enjoy something you're busy doing because you're busy doing it? You can't possibly enjoy it. Or you don't know if you're going to enjoy it because it hasn't finished yet. Well Carl but listen I know from the moment. Say this, bunch of jumping. I'd love to be doing. their things. Right. Okay. Well, listen. But, their. But, their. their. their. their. their. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. th. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu. B. B. th. th. th. th. th. you you're you're you're you're you're you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to. to. to. to. to. thi. you. you. you. you. be enjoying it because I'd be going, is the thing going to snap?
Starting point is 00:26:06 Right, okay. Well, there's, there is something about that. Extreme sports, there is a reason what you're doing. I mean, it is the after effect you enjoy because it's the fear and then the endorphins that rush to you and you go, oh God, I survived, isn't thive isn't thive isn't thi isn't that's thi isn't thr-I isn't, thr-I's thr-I's thr-I's, thr-I's thr-I's the the thr-I's the thr-a' the thr-I's thr-I's the the the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the after that's the after is a the after is the after is the after is the after is the after is the the the the the the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th..... th. thin. thin. thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. thr-weease-weease-a-weease-a-a-a-weease-a-a-a-a-weease-a-a-a-a-a-a-weease-a-a-a-a-s's a feeling of euphoria. So that's... No, you're having a nice dinner. Right, okay. Now when I get a menu given something in a restaurant, yeah, I go right, what am I going to do here? Yeah. Right. Well, when I came here I thou' to'n'n'er to do here I tho chops, they've got some lamb chops. They've got to the lamb chops. the their I eat it, I enjoy it. The pudding I wanted. It's gone out of the window. I've got no room for it now. Yeah. But you enjoyed the lamp chops? You enjoyed the lamp chops. You've enjoyed, you can only get packed so much. If you're enjoying all your life all the time, there's
Starting point is 00:26:54 no point in regretting anything. That's just greed. No, but I was looking forward to the pudding. Well you shouldn't have eaten all the veg. the th the the the the the the the the th. But I I I I the the the the th. But I their th. But I th. But I their th. But I th. But I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their you're their you're their you're their you're their their their their their their their their. We've their. We've their. We've their. We've their. We've their. We've their. We've their. We've their. We've their. We've their. We're their. We're their. We're their. We're their. We're their. You're tops. We're tops. We're tops. We're tape. We're tape. We're tops. We're tops. We enjoyed. You're tape. You're tops. We enjoyed. You can't their. We've enjoyed. You're their. Yeah but I was enjoying it at that point. But then you take the pleasure that you had at that point? No, because I didn't want to put in or you've had a pudding? No, because you didn't want to put in or you've had a pudding? No, because I would have had it for the sake of having it. No, because I would have had it for the sake of having it. And their winge. I don't. the, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've had it, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their, or have had it, the pudding, the pudding, the pudding, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their, their, their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their of them. Yeah, and the chance has gone. I'm probably not coming back to this restaurant. Yeah, but we haven't missed a chance. You had the chance. You didn't want to take it because you were full up with lovely lamb. What's the problem? What's the problem? It's not like. If you didn't enjoy the lamb and the veg, been forced to eat the lamb, I could have the little fitteroles. That's, you know... I had a spicy sausage in the coffee. Now, the problem was, I was enjoying it, but I thought this is the spiciest sausage I'd ever eaten. Now, I could only enjoy that the next day night when I knew that it's gone through your body, there hasn't been a problem. So that was a nice sausage, you'd have one of
Starting point is 00:28:09 them again. Right. That was a nice sausage! But then the next time, surely you'd be enjoying it. Because you wouldn't have the trauma of the next night because you'd live through it and now you just enjoyed the spiiness and the spicy sausage. the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. that's. that's, that's, that's, thi. thi. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, though, though, though, though, though, though, though, though, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, though, thate. So, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thate. So, well, that's, well, thou. So, thoo's, th sausageness of the spicy sausage. Yeah but the problem is once you've enjoyed something it's very difficult to replace what you got from that spicy sausage your first time. Then why are you looking forward to have another one? Because let me tell you, go on. Auntie Nora. Yeah. She's she's guilty of this all the time. She Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. She's got it all there. Now, what she normally does, she makes a big pot of curry. She goes, what I'll do, I'll pop that in the Monday bag and I'll pop it in the Thursday
Starting point is 00:28:53 bag. It's the same curry. Now, she has it on the Monday. She loves it. She thinks I've got the spices are good the chicken was tasty. I'm looking forward to Thursday. I'm looking forward to Thursday. I can't wait for Thursday. I'll call her up on the Thursday evening. I'll go, how was the curry that you had on Monday that you said you're having again on Thursday that you enjoyed, didn't enjoy it? Why is that? the same? the way. Now the weird thing there is it is the same. It is the same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same, it's from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from the same, it's from the same, it's from that's from that, it's from, it's from that's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, it's from, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, that's the same bag it's from the same pot but she was expecting too much and that's the problem if I had that spicy sausage again it's never gonna look up to it so forget the spicy sausage I've had it I've experienced it so you never
Starting point is 00:29:32 said well it depends so do you have anything try ever maybe not but this is insane can't aside from you and you're anti normal and presumably all the other the other the other pilgrim all the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they I they I they I they I they I they I th is is they I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th is is is th is th is th is thin is thin is thin is the the they I they I they. they. they. they. I'm they. they. they. they. the they. they. th. the. thi is to they is th clan or all as weird as one another. Why you phone her up and ask her what she's having for tea? I don't know. Yeah, that's one thing. That's not only what is happening on Monday, what are you going to do on Thursday as well? I'll make a know of it on Thursday, on Thursday, what the food today? I'll make a try and then thirty and thoen, the Thursday Curry went down. I know exactly. Yeah, that's two calls. That weekball. Just read a journal. No, it makes her happy, doesn't it get in a call? She's got nothing else. Yeah, well the curry doesn't make her happy. No, she did the first time.
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Starting point is 00:30:53 That goes totally counter to your argument. No, because it's from one packet. What difference is that, mate? one through your favourite. So hold on. So if you'd have one munchy, I'll go, I'm not going to take one unless I can have all of them, particularly the last one. But what is... Well, no, I'd like to have them all, please. What, no, no, you can't have them all. Don't be disagree. Have one munchy, have the first munchy. There are going to have one munchy. But I'm going I going the the the the the the the their going their going their going their going their going their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I'll th. I'll their. I'll th. I'll th. I'll their their their their their their their their their their their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'm not. I'll th. I'll th. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll probably want another. Well now, they're my munchies though, aren't they? Do you keep them then, forget it. Well, look, so you'd rather have no munches than one munchy. I'll go and buy a packet. I'd prefer, I'd prefer to go, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:31:29 I fancy a packet of them. But why do you enjoy packet of munchies. I eat them. There's probably about 12 in a packet. Okay. I shoved the first four in without even thinking what I'm eating. I shoved the first four in. We don't even think about what you're thinking about why I'm eating. Now, then when you're getting towards the end you make them last more you might buy at the top of the the thapapapapapapap. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I'm. I'm the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the first. I'm th. I'm the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first. I'm the first. I'm the first. I'm the first. I the first. I I the first. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I. I. I the first. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thr. I'm thr. I'm thr. I'm thr. I'm thrown. I'm th thrown. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thee. Sove. I'm th. I'm the the the first thr., every time you buy a packet of munches? Yeah? So hold on though, you must enjoy a packet of munches regularly then? Not as often as you think. I don't know. When the same as I think, I don't know. So tell me how often you enjoy, maybe once a month.
Starting point is 00:32:18 So every month you look forward to lovely packet of munches. And the same experience. You got the end, I like the last one. The only thing you know you enjoy, look forward to enjoy and it fulfills all those expectations is a fucking packet of munches once a month. Fuck me. What do you the happiness because of the badness. You don't have a yin and a yang. Well I know what you mean there. I agree with you on this because it's sort of no good to be handed it on a plate.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I mean just from my own experience working for some of it does feel better because you've got a pride and a satisfaction. I generally think it's better to start a business, struggle, go bust, come back, than win the lottery. I genuinely believe that and the older I get, the more sure I am of that, that working hard is itself the reward and I genuinely believe that. But where does it end? It's no point having the struggle till you die and never get any happiness.
Starting point is 00:33:27 So what's your balance? We don't have to go into philosophical terms here. What's your balance? What's your yin and yang of a good life? And by good life I mean one that you've enjoyed or been satisfied with and one that you have no regrets or guilt or shame and a bit of pride. What are you asking me? Yeah, I've got a bit of all that. Right? But you need, you need the mixture, don't you?
Starting point is 00:33:57 So you find out what your favorite thing is, like a bag of revels? So you can't cherish guilt or shame. Did you just say life is like a bag of revels? Isn't that dangerously close to life's like a box of chocolates? In Forrest Gump over there, yeah. Jesus, it is, isn't it? There's one or two in there that I don't like. Like what?
Starting point is 00:34:15 The raisin ones, you eventually go, do you know what, they're not that bad? What? And that's the thing in life. Well hold on, wait a minute, so what are you saying? Where's this metaphor? Are you saying suddenly all the revel thing. What happens to the munch here? Well again with life if you have too much munches you get sick of the munches. So move on, mix it up. What mixes it up? Pag of Rebels? We've got a bit of everything in there. Right. Even the ones you don't like you might like inthe end, you'll go, do you know what? Okay, lose the analogy now, actually just talking about rebels now in life. What about, what about, um...
Starting point is 00:35:09 Oh, what can I... What has he enjoyed before? What would you have written to Jim will fix it to fix for you? What would have given you pleasure as a kid? Dear Jim, can you fix it for me to do what? to do what? Uh... their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, what, their, what, what, what, what, what about, what about, what about, what about, what about, what about, what about, what about, what about, what, what, what, what, what, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. What about, what about, th. What about, what about, what about, what about, thi, thi, thi, thi, they never really lived up to what the kid wanted, did they? But what would you have requested? But I don't think I would because I think I saw how disappointed most of the kids were. A kid like whistling.
Starting point is 00:35:38 They write out watching Whittaker. Yes, because they look at it and they go, can you fix it for me to go into space? Can I dance with banana-rama? No, th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as th as they they they they they they they they they they they're as they're as they're as they're as they're as they're as they're as they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they... I. I they. I they. I they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to thi. I to to to to to to to to to to to thi. I to to thi. I thi. I they're they're they're they're they and they go, can you fix it for me to go into space? No. Can I dance with Bananarama? No problem. That's the ones they pick. Yeah, so that's why I wouldn't write in because whatever you ask for, you're always going to get a watered down version. But if Jim could fix it for you to do anything, what would you have chosen? their thing? I want it as a kid. One thing. Just one thing to choose one thing, please. That my name was Brett. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh, fucking that!
Starting point is 00:36:12 It's not unbelievable! I mean, it's extraordinary. There is no predicting that. Okay, you know what, I can make that dream come to you right now, Brett. We can just call you Brett, Billpilkinton, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thii, to thi, thi, to to thi, thi, thi, thuk, thuk, thuett, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thu. That, thu. That, thu. That, thu. That, thu. That, thu. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, thi. That, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, tha, tha, th can make that dream come true for you right now Brack. We can just call you Brett from now on. Not a problem Brett. Brett Pilkington? It sounds good. I love the fact that it's the Carl bit he wants to replace not the fucking Pilkington. No but that doesn't work either because like then why not? Because I told me mom and dad that's what that's what I wanted. They started they started calling calling calling calling calling calling calling calling calling calling calling calling calling calling they started calling they called called called called called called called they started. They started. They started. They started mom, dad, call me Brett from now on and they went, alright. Yeah, but then I kept forgetting that I was Brett, so I wasn't answering so they
Starting point is 00:36:49 went back to Carl. Oh, it's amazing! So you've had that dream come true. Yeah, and it wasn't that good. And that's what I'm saying to you, things never live up to what you want. Dreams, what are they? Taking one of the big themes of philosophy further, why are we here, what's the point of life, what is it to be human, the ethical upshots of some of the technological and medical breakthroughs pose more of their own questions. Cloning. Is that a person that's saying, right, well of course it is. What about if you grow that for harvesting without the brain? So growing kind of vital organs, presumably in a laboratory.
Starting point is 00:37:41 What about that? You know, stem cell STEM cell research is it you know? I mean this weird things happening all the time with all this transplant stuff. Read about one who you know a way of sort of you're saying oh it's just a bit of meat. Yeah you'll say no it doesn't work. No what I meant it organs can't have rights and feelings. No but listen to this. Go on. So it's going to be bullshit. No. No. No, no no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no, no, no, no, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their this. their their this. this. th. th. th. It's this. It's this. It's this. It's this. It's this. It's this. It's their their th. It's th. It's th. It's th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. their their their weird. We's weird. th. We's weird. It's weird. It's weird. th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. th but listen to this. Go on. So... It's going to be bullshit. No. No, no, the senses went up. Would you like a small wagering?
Starting point is 00:38:09 The senses went up when he said, right, listen to this. Okay. I'm going to bet you five pounds, Rick, that this is not bullshit. Don't let me down here. Not when we're talking about philosophy, he's going to have done some careful research. Let's take a wager. Five pounds is coming my way. So what happened is, do you know like people do donor cards? So, uh, theylip thii. So thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi's thin, thin, thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin, I thin, I thin, I thi, I thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. I thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I'm thin, thin, thin, thin, th' th' th' th' theeeeat' th' theat' thin, thin, I die, he can have my kidney. Right? So, anyway, he died.
Starting point is 00:38:48 He said, get the kidney out. He got the kidney out of him. Someone who needed the new kidney. They were like over the moon, there's a new kidney on the way. But this person who didn't, who needed the new kidney had a couple of things. Right. He wasn't really good at driving. Yeah. And he couldn't stand yellow biscuits. Right. Couldn't stand yellow biscuits. He just didn't like him. There's something, he didn't know why, he's just never liked him. Anyway, they pop it in, he's having his test done,
Starting point is 00:39:20 he's in hospital for a couple of days. He home, it goes, it could do with a yellow biscuit. What's the fucks a yellow biscuit? Just a banana baldies? What are you talking about? Just a yellow biscuit. Who decides? I like all biscuits except yellow ones. Where is this? I'm just telling you what happened. Right. I don't know why I don't know what the kind of the biscuits got necessarily got to do with it. It's like like a a the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their. I. I's their their. I's thi. I's thi. I's thiolk. I's thi. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's the the the the the the the the the the the the t. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm a hard phobia. Oh so he fears the combination of yellowness and biscuitiness. Right, so a bloke... He doesn't mind biscuits, I don't mind yellow. Don't ever put together, that's my worst nightmare! So, right, I confused as to who's got what? Who's's kidney? There's a bloke, a bloke's received a new kidney. He hated biscuits. He's not regular driving, he ate custard creams. Right, but now suddenly after the hospital transport, after the operation, hmmmm, a really fancy yellow
Starting point is 00:40:17 biscuit. Yeah. Okay, does he go out for a drive at any point? Right, he loved driving? He liked driving all over the sudden. What? He hated it? I know. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, he hated, he hated, the, he hated, he hated, he hated, he hated, he hated the, he hated the, he hated it. He hated the the the, he hated the, he's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He, he's. He, he's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's, he. He's, he's, he's the. He's the. He hated, he's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. He went driving and left driving. He loved driving. He liked driving all over the sunip. What? He hated it? I know, but this is what's weird. It's bollocks. The kidney is a filter system. But if you have something for long enough. It's like getting a new tea strainer and suddenly like in yellow biscuits and driving. No. The kidney has no impact on anything. No. It's like how if you knock them out with someone you pick up their little little, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. their, thi. thi. their, thi. thi. thi. th. th. like how if you knock them out with someone you pick up their little things that they do. So then kept saying to me that's a nonsense so stop saying that you've suddenly picked that up from someone. I said you've never said that before and you've got it three times in about two days. And it's the same thing. And it's the same thing. to live in with car. He's he same he same hethat's nonsense. You're going to start coming up with more and more, bollocks, nonsense, rubbish, shit. Round-headed fool, you've picked that from someone, stuck, you've used that two hundred times in
Starting point is 00:41:12 the last three minutes. Head like a fucking orange. Southawk! Stupid, fucking, five quid. Yep. A big question, a big question, particularly in the area of the philosophy of the mind, is what is intelligence?
Starting point is 00:41:41 It's just... It's what you know, isn't it? Well that's knowledge, isn't it, really? Yeah, it's a form of knowledge, intelligence. No, I don't think it is. Why, isn't it? Because intelligence, really, is everything from the ability to retain knowledge, to understand it, to apply. It's probably a little bit like the difference
Starting point is 00:42:05 between how fast the computer is and how good the program on that computer is. It's no good. I'd say I've got a brain that can, it can work stuff out, but sometimes, if I tell it too much, he can't remember all of it. Now if I had a brain that had loads of memory space, tell me as much as you want. Well that's important, that's important. And you keep it. But yeah, but some people say that's what intelligence is isn't it in memory. It's no good saying he's brilliant. He learns 10,000 facts a day. Really? Yeah, he forgets him the next day. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. Well, yeah, but what good is that? Trivia is nothing to show intelligent. It doesn't... It's good for chat. It's good for chat. And when you're out and about, if you meet a stranger, it's good to drop something in, like, you know, go on.
Starting point is 00:42:58 What would you drop in? To show you're intelligent. Well, just to meet, you've the bus you the bus to to to to the bus to to to the bus to the bus to to the the the to the to the the the to the the to the to the the to to to to the to to to to to to to their their their to to to to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show to show their. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's their. It's their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their too. too. too. too. to show. to show. their. to show. intelligent. Well just to meet you just met me at the bus stop you think is a nice fella. Steve's at the bus stop there he is he's there he's got his little duffel coat on his little scarf his file he's got his little glasses there a little bit mudded up where some some ruffians are like thrown mud at him and I've seen this and he's cried and he's shut him well that's not true yeah and he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he's he's he's he's he he's he's he's he was he was he he's he he's he he's he he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's th he's he's th he's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th and he's run to the bus stop to go home to his mom. Okay so at the bus stop there he is you come along you go oh who's this nerd who's shut himself right? It would never happen. I never never happen. I never fought though I don't have to fight with him. Yeah and you go okay he's obviously intellectual look at him and he's gone and he's looked at you and he's thick, proving wrong. No, what I'd do. Go on. There's no point just having one fact. Right. I'd wait for him to start a topic and I'd show my intelligence by having a fact on the
Starting point is 00:43:53 topic he's brought up. Okay. Because we can all have one topic that you go, oh, I'll show this off. And then, you know, someone goes, oh, I've been talking to you about the peanut fact. And you the the the the th. Okay, you th. Okay, you th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. to. to. to. to-I. to-I. to-I. to-I. to-I. to-I. I'-I. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I's. to-I. to-I. to-I. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to-I'm. to-I'm. to-I'er. to-I'er. to-I'er. to-I'er. to-I. to-I. to-talking to you about the peanut fact again and you're always obviously telling everyone then it's just a boring art okay so I might just say to you you know what are your views on mathematics I just say the thing where numbers is there's there's load of them I remember I told you an interesting fact once again to try and explain infinity to you and I told you this there are as many even numbers as even and odd numbers put together. Yeah. What do you think of that? It's I think I've said before that I don't think things like that are impressive because numbers are man-made anyway. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:36 If you were talking about like when you mentioned about there's there's more insects we don't know about than what we do, then you're going, oh, where are they? Where are they the hiding? the? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? the? the? the? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? the? th? th? th? th? the th? the? th? th? th? th? th? the? the? the? th? th? the? the the the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? the? What? the the th. the the the the? What? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. the. th going, oh where are they? Where are they hiding? It leads a question. The fact that these loads of numbers is like, yeah, but at the same time, you could rule numbers out of your life if you wanted to, you could live a life. Do you really think that? Difficult. Yeah, you could. There's tribes. There's tribes. They're th th th their th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th their th th th th th thi thi thi thi their thi thi thi thi their their thi their their thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tod. today today today tria. today today today thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi their thi tribes in the Amazon. Yeah but they're not getting their food from Scenesburg no they count to three they don't need any more numbers than three and they just have three because they go one they know what one is they go pass as one of them. What do you need anything anything over three they just saying we being greedy so they don't need it. What if they've got? how many kids you've they've got they've got they've got they've got they've got they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their they're their their their their their their their their their their their th. they're they're they're their they're just their their their their their they're just they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their th th th th thi to try try to. to try to try th tho the the thi thi their thi thi their they're th it. But what if they've got five children? How many kids you've got when you're living in a place like that, it doesn't matter. It's not about, you're just part of the tribe. So it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Right, where is this tribe that only counts to three? It's somewhere like the Amazon or something? And there's no more more than three they just say I'll have more. Right. Or gives another three. But we don't need three? Well yeah. Or another one or another two. But what if they need 200? That's complicated, isn't it? Well you just keep going give us three. And then... That's a slow way of doing it. They've got now what else to do. They're living in the bus stop. Oh, where's your bus? So far, you've told me nothing about maths whatsoever. So you're concluding that he is dim. Fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:46:15 When I was on holiday recently, I got talking to an old fella. Because where I went, it's mainly for old people. I got chatting with him. You could tell he had a lot of money. Yeah. He's sort of tanned. He had that sort of rouge coloured jeans. Oh yeah. Which is always sort of... It's kind of like he's got money. And the red jeans are twice as much there. It's like I've got money. Yeah, it's sort of, it's either that color or yellow. But you can carry it off when you're an old man. And he. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the he. he. he. he. he. It's, he he. he. he. It's, he he. he. he. It's, he's. I said I've got money. Yeah, it's either that color or yellow, but you can carry it off when you're an old man and especially with the tan, you think, yeah, he's got a few. I'm a millionaire, do you have any yellow jeans?
Starting point is 00:46:52 We've got one pesser, but now we're the most expensive one of the chants. Yeah, they're in the back room. Oh yeah, you can afford yellow jeans or a ruminant, come this way. So I got talking to him and it turns out he had a cruise ship. Right. Loads of money. Now, I was chatting to him for about 10 minutes. Yeah. What colour was his jacket? He didn't have a jacket on just a white shirt. He's wearing red jeans and a white shirt.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah, sort of leather slip on shoes, I can remember. How old is he? It's hard to tell because he was well tanned. Right. Was he an attractive thing? He's a good-looking fella. So he's rich, so you saw this rich, good-looking bloc with just a shirt on. Oh, he had a shirt and his pink pants. It's picked pants. Why don't why do did you notice what colour the crotch area was?
Starting point is 00:47:45 What? Why did you notice what, you were looking at the eyes on the crocash area? I can see why you could see, if you look at his face, you could see a white shirt, but why could you see what colour the fabric around his testicles were? You saw a good looking old man sat at the bar, you went out and I went out of a drink. barbecue to open right okay and you notice demand you notice to say you notice to nine morning no yeah no I was annoyed I don't like late nights on a lot of okay jet lag Suzanne said let's go down there early tonight right I get there I find out the barbecue's not for another 40 odd minutes what time was the already rep well I don't know it starts at eight well you notice in a you notice in old men's general coverings yeah but you don't know what flo-I's the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to their th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I their. I their. I their their their their th. I th. I their their the. their the the the the the the the. the the. the the Get your story straight. What I'm saying to you is, the reason I notice his pants is because what he was talking about, there was no reference points. I didn't have a clue what he was going on about. Right, what was he talking about for your eyes to wander down to his penis is what I'm trying to say to say. What made you look at his penis? Because? Because? Because because? Because because? Because he the penis. Because he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he thus. Because. Because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because he was, because he was he he to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to he he the the the the the the the the the th is, because, because, because, because, because the th is, because th is, because the the the the the the the the th is, because th is, because thi thi thi thi thi thi, because thi thi thi thi the is, thean is, thean is thean is thean is tean thean is thean thean is thean is thean is, thean is, th'm trying to say to you is.
Starting point is 00:48:49 His reference points I had no idea what he was going about. He was talking about how he was in some Cuban war. He told me about how he'd met President Reagan. He told me something about how it cut up a cow once. There was a... What was this bloke? I think he's an maniac who would scrawl blood on his trousers, he's gone insane, he's jithering and chatting away, claiming he owns a cruise ship. He told me he spent 36 grand on furniture and when I sort of looked at him like,
Starting point is 00:49:17 you're beautiful. And he's going, oh well I needed a couple of shade longes and it was just, there was nothing I could relate to. Wasn't she in the TV series? I don't. And I th. And I th. And th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You're th. You're th. You're the th. their. their. You're their their their their their their their their their. You're their their their their. He's their. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. I, the. I, the. I, the. I, the. I, the. I, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the there was nothing I could relate to. He lunges! Wasn't she in the TV series? I don't understand why you have no interest in either being in a Cuban war having met Ronald Reagan because why is I've not interested why I've got no... I don't know why the trousers would much more appealing to you if someone was telling me I was and then I was in the war I made Sheikh Wavara Fidel Castro Fidel Lidel Fidel Fidel Fidel Fidel Fidel fidel fidel f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f fidel they they that that that that that that that that's why why why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's that's I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was that's why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why they. I was I was I was I was I was I was I was they. I was they. I was they. I was that's why that's why they. I was that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's that's not that's they. I that's not they. I they. I they. I that's not they. I they. I was. I was me I was in the war I met Chequivara and Fidel Castro and then why you're looking at my packet so that's that's my point it's just your point that you can have a chat with a fellow just like I'm talking to the geek at the bus stop I even pointed sometimes sometimes you can't you can't take part what what I'm meant to say about him
Starting point is 00:50:01 meeting Reagan what I'm meant to say about him asking questions questions. the the he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he to ask him a say about him being a more? But I'm interested to ask him questions about he was in a war. When I sort of took it back to, I wonder what meat they're doing at the barbecue, he wasn't bothered. Yeah. He loved the fact that that's your contribution. He's talking about the missile crisis. He's met presidents and important people, he's experienced extraordinary things. You see, they're fascinating to anyone and you're not interested, you just want to know whether the sausages... But I mean, there it is, you see. He's come down, he's looked at you without prejudice and thought, I don't know this guy. The language barrier probably saved you.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And he thought he's probably a smart guy. Why is he looking at my meat and two veg? You don't need the barbecue, it's a lovely little sausage here. When you're talking to a stranger, aren't you meant to keep it... Above the waist? Keep it... Looking at his bollocks. Keep it to... Keep it to... ... I made Carl Laugh!
Starting point is 00:51:07 I made Carl Laugh! Well there you have it. The in-depth study of the mother of science, the Rikajara's guide to philosophy. You can still enjoy the back catalogue of these guides, medicine, natural history and the arts, and seasons one to five of the Ricketiaveh Show. Over the last few years, with all our explorations, our studies, what have you learned? What's the one big thing you've learned since we've been doing this? Since you've met myself and Stephen, since
Starting point is 00:51:50 we've been prodding you, since we've treated you like like an ape that we want to teach to speak? What have you learned about yourself and the world? One thing, if you have to take it with you. I don't think I've learned anything that substantial. Ever? During all this? There's not been anything groundbreaking, has they? We've chatted about midgets, we know arms and legs, gay ones.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I don't know if that will ever crop up again in the chat. So even if, even if I've learned something from it, I don't know if that will ever crop up again in the chat. So even if I've learned something from it, I don't think I'll ever crop up again. So it's no use. That's what I'm saying to you about information and intelligence. It's if you can use it. There's no point in the head. This series of audio books at a price of £1.95 is absolutely worthless and pointless. Yeah, I suppose it is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Thanks. Good night. This audio program is presented by Audible.com. Audible.audible. Audio that speaks to you wherever you are.

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