The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Adam Silver's NBA tanking problem. USA wins gold vs. Canada, Floyd Mayweather back? | 02.23

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

Bomani Jones breaks down the NBA’s tanking problem and explains why the real issue might be that the regular season just doesn’t feel like it matters anymore. He also dives into USA Hockey’s gold medal moment, why America’s relationship with hockey is actually healthy, and what makes certain sports hit differently culturally. Plus, Floyd Mayweather’s return, Sam Altman’s wild AI comments abd TSA PreCheck chaos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Bobani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. We're going to talk about the hockey in a little while.

Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a real hacksaw, Jim Duggan sort of situation right now with that. But anyway, we're going to talk about that. But first, right, I can't remember. I think we talked about this in the last show. I can't remember if I explicitly made the point. But, you know, the NBA's got this problem,

which is we'd be trying to, and I know we talked about this, we'd be trying to shake off that football Jones. Yes. Right? And then all we typically get was the dog shit of the NBA All-Star game. Right. And that just doesn't do enough. And that leads to everybody.

Like, it's just the time to, the NBA is not what people want at that moment. And so it becomes an opportunity for people to project all their unhappiness onto the NBA for reasons that don't really have that much to do about the NBA, except the NBA be making it easy, right? So if there's anything we know about the NBA, you correct me if I'm wrong here. I think I've talked about this before also. The commissioner of the NBA is real online. So if like y'all get online and start talking about what kind of things y'all think

or something needs to be changed, don't you worry. Adam Silver will hear you, right? That doesn't necessarily mean that there will be changes, but you get to talk it in your podcast or on threads even, perhaps, and the NBA is going to have some sort of response at the very least, they're going to say something to you, right? So you have to imagine that the NBA

almost gets like these briefs of the people's tags. Yes. Like, like, who's job is it, right? Yeah. Who works in the podcast research department? There's certainly somebody. They're like, well, you know, Bill Simmons, his show the other day. He said, dot, dot, dot, right? But anyway, Adam Silver has heard us loud and

clear about the tanking thing. And according to Sean Serrana, there are seven potential anti-tanking rule changes that are on the table. I am going to read them all off to you because I want to see if you get the same conclusion that I have received after reading the seven. First one is that first round picks can be protected only top four or top 14 plus. So for those of you who don't understand what this is about, and by those of you I'm referring to my mother, you can trade first round picks in the NBA with caveats. It's a 2027 first round pick. If that pick is in the top eight, the team trained.

trading the pick away gets to keep it. But if it's outside the top eight, then the trade has to be, the pick has to be traded. And if it's not like the top eight, then there's a second round pick next year that conveys in order to make the trade work. It's a way to kind of like minimize the risk of trading away a first round pick and give picks kind of a sliding value because of the way the NBA salary cap works. Picks are very important currency in order to make trades work the nature of what it means. When you trade away a star player, you're in effect starting over. So you want like more opportunities to help you with the rebuild, right? More supplies. It's like a gift card to Home Depot. You understand what I'm saying? But it can't just be

a blank check to Home Depot. Okay. Number two, lottery odds freeze at the trade deadline or a later date. Ryan, I understand why people think that this is a good idea. This is a horrendous idea. It's a horrendous idea. Right, right. You just, changing what it is that people are going to be throwing games. Yeah, like I, like, we don't, like the idea that people tanking during football season when no one's watching. Yes. The idea that that's better makes no sense. If you put this provision in, Lori Barkett and would not have played a game until like now. Yeah. Right? Like, no, no, no, no, no, this is a horrendous idea. Number three, no longer allowing a team to pick

top four consecutive years and or consecutive bottom three finishes. I am okay with this. idea, right? Like, first of all, we have to stop pretending as though the purpose of the draft is to redistribute talent. The purpose of the draft is to keep salaries low and to maintain control over players with a secondary benefit being the redistribution of talent. It is not a fundamental purpose of the draft. It is a secondary notion that has been added to justify the indefensible practice of having a draft in the first place. That's how it works. So anyway, I say all that to say, there is no birthright that says that just because you're sorry, you deserve to get an early pick.

A pick that, by the way, you'd probably fuck up anyway. We might be saving some kids by doing this actually, right? They're getting sent to the raw foster homes and they turn, they still turn out to be, you know, you understand what I'm saying. Anyway, number four, teams can't pick top four the year after making the conference finals, which feels like a provision that is specifically geared toward this year's Indiana Pacers. Correct.

Right. So you had a good player, get hurt, and it messes up your whole season. You're not just going to take this whole thing away. This would also have applied to the 2020 Golden State Warriors. Oh, yeah. I mean, but yeah, talk about someone who didn't do anything with those picks either.

That's not about to say. They don't seem to know how to do this either. Yeah. Number five, lottery odds allocated based on two-year records. I kind of see what you're just. saying, I don't think this will help it. Sounds complicated it. Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's a help.

Number six, the lottery extended to include all play-in teams. Okay, I mean, that's basically saying you're disincentivizing the idea of trying to tank out of the play-in. Right. Okay, get that. And number seven, flattened odds for all lottery teams. This is what the lottery used to be, right? One envelope for every team, pull one out, and then you go from there.

and it would always be the clippers who were so sorry, but would never get the number one pick, except the one time they got the number one pick, they got a dude that was really cold but couldn't stay healthy, whom they eventually traded for Dominique Wilkins. Yeah. Anyway, the idea behind flattening the odds on the lottery is it disincentivizes tanking because there's no reason for you to be abject.

If you're in the lottery, you are then just in the lottery. I can live with that. Like I say, it was a world that was like that. The NBA, though, is notoriously reactive. Like, I don't know if you remember this one, Ryan. So in 92, the magic won the lottery, they drafted the shack. The next year, they were the number nine seed in the east. The way the lottery worked, at that time was a pyramid.

The worst team, I think, got 15 ping pong balls, next 14, 13. 12, 11, all the way down. As I recall, there were 66 ping pong balls in there. The magic had one out of the 66 ping pong balls. The magic won the lottery, meaning that Shaquille O'Dill got to be paired with Petty Harder, the way it turned out. Yeah.

They immediately changed the lottery. Yeah. Right? Like, this is what they're good for. An outlier result happens. And all these sports are like this. An outlier result happens. And now suddenly the BCS was notorious.

Yes, yes. for operating like this, right? Something weird happens and you never give the system change. Then the formula changes or one pulse thrown out all time, right? Yes, yes. I ran all seven of those things off just to make this point. They don't know what to do. Right?

They're just like, who's got ideas, huh? Yeah. They're like, just throw stuff out here. We'll see if we can come up with something because we have this problem with tanking. And tanking is a reflection of what I've, believe is a larger problem. And maybe I'm overestimating or under, I'm estimating in the wrong way. I'm not exactly sure how to express it, but this is what I'm saying here.

I think there's a larger problem, but even if the larger problem is corrected to a degree, perhaps tanking still exists. Now, what I am going to say is the larger problem. And I think is, like tanking is a great talk show topic. I also think that tanking matters on the level that we don't talk enough about, which is you still charge people money to come watch these games, right? You have an obligation to offer something to your paying customers. And like Mark Cuban had the thing we talked about, your fans will understand that you're trying to lose.

No, I think that that's a very particular like strain of online. I want to be the GM fans that really appreciate. I think that people ultimately understand it, but if you want me to pay money to come to your arena, and I would, like, I think people would like to pay money to come to your arena. You can't just be out here like we give up, we don't care, right? But I think the league has a larger problem,

and that is the perception that the regular season doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. it's a perception that it doesn't matter if you're good. It's a perception it doesn't matter if you're bad, that it simply does not matter. That's the part the league has to fix. And how the league got here to me is really, really interesting. Because 10 years ago, the regular season really, really mattered.

And 15 years ago, oh, buddy, did the regular season ever matter. Look, I know we're at a point where I ain't got that many people who won't be able to say that they remember this. But the LeBron Miami Heat four years,

every game they played mattered. We were doing A-1s on television shows basically every time the heat played unless it was a football game. Yeah, every game was a referendum of that team, the team decision they all made. Yes. Well, Bronn's legacy. What will Bronn's going to do next?

Yeah. For four years. Every single game mattered. And then when that was over, we wound up with this weird thing after that was over. LeBron leaves and goes to Cleveland. And we think that's going to be the story. because we've got LeBron, we got Kyrie, they got Kevin Love, right? That was going to be the story.

And then the Warriors happened. And then the Warriors had that year, they came out of nowhere. I mean, keep it in mind, they fired a coach who brought them back to relevance that seemed like Joe Lekum, you know, I don't think I've said it out loud, but, you know, I wondered. You know what I'm saying? You considered it. Yeah, yeah, it was a hypothesis worth testing.

And then they won 67 games. And it was like, oh, my bad. I didn't understand what it was. But the next year they won 73. The regular season really mattered. Them winning 73 games matter enough that Kobe's last game was on ESPN 2. And the Warriors trying to break the Bulls record was on ESPN. And then the combination of them losing in the finals to the Cavs,

plus them signing Kevin Durant immediately after, and the regular season has not mattered since. Right? Like, what would the Warriors record had to have been in 2017 for people to really think they weren't going to win a championship? I mean, I was on some, hey, man, you never know, right? Like, I was, no, man, nobody else was going for that. Like, no one else gave that the credulity, I believe that is the word that I gave that.

It's not even that they were just good. They were good and they were historically good. off the jump, and they were still good of defense, too. Yeah, you could, you just couldn't talk yourself. It was just really difficult to talk yourself into thinking anything that happened mattered in terms of determining who the champion was going to be, and it happened in a manner that people found to be somewhat distasteful. Like, nobody did anything wrong there.

What was Kevin Durant supposed to say, no, man, ain't too good. Why would I do that? What were the warrior supposed to say? I'm going to sit here and hang out with, uh, triple double cone came there. Yes, yes. Like, right. What were the warriors supposed to say?

Hold on, man. That won't be fair to the other kids. Right? Like, no, no, it was the move, but it hasn't, it didn't feel like the regular season mattered that much when LeBron and Anthony Davis got together. It was somewhat interesting, like when Chris Paul went to Phoenix and they popped up. But I'm trying to think. The Brooklyn Nats experience.

Yeah. That 20, 20 year when they brought Hardin in. Yeah. But like, I'm asking this, what would it take in 2026? What would have to happen to like make NBA regular season like, hey, this game is happening tonight and this is the thing? You know, I don't know like what winning street would have to happen. If a team had a 19 game winning street are people waking up every morning to find out if they won the game they played the night before? I don't think they are, right?

Like I thought, I think about this in the context of baseball because this isn't just an NBA problem. This isn't everybody but the NFL problem, right? And it's been a long time since we've had a super long hitting street. How many games of a hitting streak would somebody have to get to for us to kid? So there are hitting streets that I can remember in my lifetime. I don't remember the Pete Rose 44 game hitting streak, right? But my dad and my brother were actually at the game in Atlanta when it ended, right?

But the fact that I can tell you the number of games and I remember it, that tells you what the magnitude of that was. I believe in 1987, Benito Santiago had a 34-game hitting streak as a rookie. And Paul Molitor, it was either 38 or 39. But I could remember these numbers, right? Joe DiMaggio's 56-game hitting streak was a thing. If somebody had a 45-game hitting streak, well, we can't. You know what I mean?

Like, does that break through? If somebody was hitting 390 going into September, does that break through? I don't know. Like, I don't know at all what would have to happen in the NBA. Like, average triple double four season. We've seen that. You know what I mean? Would somebody have to be like, yo, what if somebody was averaging 40 points a game?

Does that break through? I don't know what it is that. breaks through. But that to me is really the larger NBA issue because as a result, the only NBA thing that matters is tanking. Right. Like look, we have a built, we have two really big building rivalries that are going to matter in the postseason, I believe. In the west is San Antonio in Oklahoma City and in the east, it is Detroit and New York, right? Teams that actively dislike each other and are also all four, I would argue, independently compelling. And strong fan bases who care.

Yes, yes. We're going to talk about the idea of tanking more than that just because of the declining significance of the regular season. And I don't have an answer for the NBA about how exactly you go about getting to the place of making people care. You know what? I got, I don't know if I'm going to throw it out there like it's a full on idea. per se, but I'm going to throw it out there. Now, Ryan, how much you care about, what you call it,

NASCAR? Three out of, two out of ten. Okay. Do you know what they have a tendency to do periodically when NASCAR interest is low? You know what they always suggest that people do? I'm not sure where you're going with this, but let's line down together. Bring back fighting. A little bit more paint swapping. Cats on victory lane, victory road, whatever they call it.

Engage in this. NASCAR underrated fighting sport. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And fighting in a very interesting sense. It's like, you know, they're coming in, they like Floyd Mayweather, you know what I'm saying? Like they're the 147s, right? that's what they out there doing.

And it is an interesting fight. It's like, you almost killed me with your car. What's getting in white fistigoths? Yes. Like, did you see that clip? I have a clip. But that Miami Memphis game where Miami's beating the dog shit out of Memphis. And some dude from Miami ran into Scotty Pippin Jr. from behind and took him out.

Yes. It's Scottie Pippin Jr. It was so funny because he got up and he just kind of. like he just shook it off, right? Like he got up. I was just like, and then he went out, he was ready for the ruckus. Ready to go. It felt great.

It felt great. And like, we don't, it was good to know that somebody was about that action. Right. Show me that you care. Like fighting in the, Isaiah Stewart, I know that he cares.

Fighting in the regular season is how you show me. that you care. That's all we need is some reason to believe that these games matter, right? Rings culture is a big problem in this also, right? Everybody's playing, everybody's playing for a championship. And you know, I understand, right? Everybody's playing for a championship. Everybody thinks they could be a champion. Most of y'all just need to be out here for a good time. This is what we we're really here for. As much when the checks are so large.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about like his fans. Yeah. Yeah, we're just here for a good time, man. Like, we make the games matter. Make this something to stay consistently in our lives. Don't make the only way that you can enjoy this is if you start thinking like corporate.

You know? Well, if you look at our projections for what we're going to do in year 2027, I think we're really on the other. No, no, no. the here and now has to matter. The here and now has to feel like something. The here and now has got to be important. And I just wish I had an answer for you on how to solve that.

I don't know what it is. I don't know. But you got to have that because otherwise we're going to be talking about tanking every year because they always go find a way to tank. You know, Ryan, I was in Canada last weekend during the wider Olympics. And it's very interesting being in a place during the wider Olympics. where they don't call them the whiter Olympics up there. They just call them the Olympics.

Yeah, the Olympics. Yeah, like those are in Canada, those the real Olympics, right? That is their time to shot. What's this track bullshit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, man, you got us out here root for these Jamaicans. You know what I'm saying? They're like, no, this is our shit.

They got the, they do the hockey. They got the curling. You know what I'm saying? They got the running up skis uphill. They've got all their things, man. it is their jam like in the elevator. It was a sign that was like, yo, this is all the stuff from the Olympics

that they're going to be showing at the bars at different times. Like it was a thing, man. And so I am fascinated kind of sort of by the idea of Team Canada and hockey. I don't know if fascinated is the right way to put it. But I think for those of us who are just kind of aware of hockey,

I don't think we, I don't think a lot of people properly or fully appreciate. Like, hockey really is theirs. The NHL, we can't tell because they just all wifos to us. So unless you got all the consonants in your name, we don't really understand that, like,

those is Canadians out. Right? Like, that's a league full of Canadian. As a result, Team Canada in hockey is very similar to Team USA in basketball. The difference is in California, they actually like the hockey team, right?

Like when they win, they celebrate with the same fervor with which they ruminate in the event of a loss, right? It's a thing for them. And so I saw it as playing against the United States. And I'll never forget this, because, you know, I used to do work for a company called The Score. That was based out of Toronto when it was in 2010. And that was the year that Vancouver hosts.

posted the Opener Cera, I mean, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the Olympics. And I remember watching the closing ceremony. And I didn't. Like, how much Canada thought about us. Until I watched those closing ceremonies. I mean, they really, all the jokes were just kind of about what Americans think of Canada, right? Yeah. All of that was the case, right? Like, like, there's a little bit of Alabama, Auburn to USA Canada, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or Michigan, Michigan State, like, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They, they. They give us a lot of thought, and it's nothing personal, but we don't. You're correct. It don't, it don't really come up. You know, and part of it is most of them live close to a border with us. Yeah. Relatively speaking, we don't. Anyway, it's a thing for them.

But they hockey team, they really, really, really care about that. And I saw the Sidney Crosby was not going to be playing, but they had a whole other team full of Canadians, right? So they probably should have been okay. And another factor is very important as I have to justify. fact that they think about about us, they're not really, they don't really fucking with us right now. No. They're not.

No, they do not. Yeah, yeah. The whole Trump thing and tariff thing and all kinds of other stuff. Like, I didn't feel no glares or nothing like that when I was up there in Canada, but let's be honest, they know it ain't my fault. Like, I don't know. They all some enemy of my enemy type situation with me, at least that's the presumption that they make it.

I don't know. I don't know how they was treating the other, the American whites. For me, they're probably looking at me like, something, brother, bad. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, they, like, they see what time it is. But anyway, I guarantee you,

they were unhappy that the USA brought home that gold in that hockey badge. I ain't even looked. I can just promise you. There are none to please up there in Canada about that. But right, wasn't it off of a, was it off an odd man rush? Yeah, I mean, so like,

so the overtime specifically is three on three. So it's just like... Which is incredible, by the way. Yes, it's incredible. It's fast-paced. It's really opened up. And it's a classic, you know, like a hobby soccer match where the real nerd stats really favored kid on like expected goals and all that stuff.

Yeah. But, you know, us Gritty Americans just found a way to pull off the victory on a counter attack. And ended up winning the goal to one first golden 46 years. And didn't they have a five on three penalty kill? Yes. I guess team Canada. Yeah. Again, they, they supposed to win every year.

Right. That's how this goes. America's first goals is 1946. Does that mean they stopped? In 1980, 46 years ago. Yeah, 46 years ago. Sorry. Oh, it was 1980.

And my question is, is that mean that we can stop talking about that? I'm not sure. I don't. Not to be dark, but probably until someone's very prominent in our interest. Fair. Fair, fair, fair.

The thing about the miracle on ice is, it's very difficult without the Cold War, like, being present to explain, like, the U.S. Soviet Union. I mean, that really was Auburn, Alabama, every day. Yes. For decades. Between two countries. For 45 years.

We were with really big bombs, right? It was every day. And they had, like, a team full of grown-ups, you know? Like, then when, here's something America doesn't really get the opportunity need to be very often. The underdogs. Underdog. Right.

Like we are not, we are giving points in just about every situation. Hockey is a rare place athletically where America really is, the underdog, in such a way where as long as they don't tear up the hotel, even our professionals, all they got to do is really go out there and give it to old college try and we'll be happy with it. And when they win, it's always emotional, right? Right. Like, and anytime we win, it winds up being an emotional situation. Because once again, this ain't really what we do.

No. It ain't it, right? And then we had the, what was my name? Was it Johnny Goddrow? Yes. Right? So if you hadn't seen this a couple years ago, hockey player, he would have been on this Olympic team,

was cycling with his brother, got killed by a drunk, driver. And so his kids are there for the game and they got his jersey and they take the picture with it and everything like that. Like if America's going to win the gold in hockey, we're going to have a great story. Yeah. Great story around it, right? The American soccer team is interesting because they don't got to the point, you know what, here's how I say American hockey is right in the sweet spot. They're good enough where you got a chance, but not quite good enough that they're really going to disappoint you. Correct.

It would have been, it would have been a bummer, but people would have, it would not have been a disappointing result, like, you know, USA basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,

they rarely just go flat out, like shit to bed. They're not to lose their country that most people hadn't heard of. Yes, yes. But if they don't win, it's okay. It got to goes.

USA soccer, they still ain't like, they ain't got good enough to where you could just, like, they are at the, come on guys. Yeah.

Like, what's the excuse you? They're at the point now where they get like crap for not being like American gritty hustle people enough. Yes, and people want it really bad. Like with the hockey team, you really only think about it when the Olympics come up or whatever world championship they might have. People think about that American soccer team all year long and they're tired of waiting. Yes. We will be waiting for a very, very, very long. time. Now look, man, we got to recognize both of these sports, man. We both know that America

ain't serious about neither one of them. Because if they were, you know what America does when it's serious about winning at something. It'd take them a long time to get there. But when America's serious about winning, they go get black people. That's what they do. If they were serious about any of these sports in the White or Olympics, it would be a lot more black people out there. It'd be a whole lot more programs saving kids from gangs and shit by having them out there. Like Chicago, Chicago would just be, they had the one brother, shiny Davis a few years ago, but it would just be a whole bunch of brothers out here speed skating.

White people already think we fastening them, but somehow would you think that changes because it skates? No, no, no, y'all just ain't serious. Y'all ain't really trying to win. I'm not saying that winning means having a bunch of black people, but I do know when y'all serious about winning, y'all going to give us a chance. That's what y'all going to do.

Same way with the soccer team. Y'all ain't really serious about winning. you would simply like to win. And that's fine, right? We get it. For the soccer team, they need to be a little most serious. For the hockey team, perfect level of seriousness, right? Just the nice baseline level of seriousness that allows us to appreciate the good

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Yes. Yes. Like that is art. Like I've got to read this book about like the Silicon Valley people that try to go into selling weed, you know, like legal weed, but it winds up being this awkward thing for them

because you have to deal with some actual drug dealers. along the way when you kick it like that. But there are no like Silicon Valley people, it feels like they go into boxing. No, it's just all of them. The most respectable person who's going into boxing now is Dana White. That is the most, yeah, like the current people

involved in boxing now. Dana White, Oscar de Alohaio. Yeah, well, Al-Haman. Al-Haman is probably the one, right? Like Al Hamel was a reputable man in the world that he was in before. But this is just, if Floyd needs the money, this is, who boy, what an economy. All right. Speaking of Silicon Valley dudes, uh, doing things that are unlike.

Well, Sam Altman, uh, found a new, uh, let's take a listen. Hold on, hold on, right fast. Remind people who he is. Sam Altman, the, uh, well, how would you describe him on the leader of open AI? Yeah, he's the CEO of Open AI. See, CIO of Open AI. found a new low in his view of humanity. Let's take a listen.

One of the things that is always unfair in this comparison is people talk about how much energy it takes to train an AI model relative to how much it costs a human to do one inference query. But it also takes a lot of energy to train a human. It takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart. And not only that, it took like the very widespread evolution of the, 100 billion people that have ever lived and learned not to get eaten by predators and

learn how to figure out science and whatever to produce you, and then you took whatever you took. So the fair comparison is if you ask Chatsyptia question, how much energy does it take once its model is trained to answer that question versus a human? And probably AI has already caught up on an energy efficiency basis measured that way. These guys hate people. Fundamentally. like I did a residency at the University of Dayton a few months ago

and you know I was talking about the kids using AI to do their homework and stuff and I'm like why are you out here making it easier for them to replace you right you are contributing to your own replacement when you do this we have completely devalued human beings right Kim saying that out loud in that way and in that room where no one seemed to be aghast yeah people laughed off really but no one was like

what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the rest of us were like, I'm telling you, man. Ryan, what's the name of that book we read? If they built it, everybody dies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If someone builds it, everyone dies.

Everyone dies. And it's just about superhuman AI and how it's pretty much guaranteed that if it comes around, it's going to kill us all. It has been made very clear that it will destroy us in order to preserve itself.

Because that's the type of logic it has. Yes. And because that is the type of lot. Like, and that, is a person awkwardly clumsily trying to make the point of that logic not a to be of that logic. Yes. Yes. And by the way, the people who wrote the book, if someone builds and everyone dies are people that are like, hey, we're trying to be cool about this. That's the thing is like everyone who quits like we're trying to be cool. It's okay. But this is very, very dangerous. And I can't be a part of it anymore. Yeah, right. And the point that was made that I thought was most important was we don't know when it'll go too far.

We know it will happen. It could happen in 100 years. It could also happen in five. We just don't know. All right. Crazy news in the travel world over the weekend. It was reported up by New York Times. TSA was canceling its pre-check program.

As of 6 a.m. Sunday morning, TSA got on Twitter and responded. This time, TSA pre-check remains operational with no change from traveling public. As staffing constraints arise, TSA will evaluate by a case-by-case basis and adjust operations accordingly. Curse the ex-corts such as those for members of Congress have been suspended to allow officers to focus on the mission of securing America skies. Bo, what was your reaction to this news? Hey, man, for those of you who don't know, it's a crazy blizzard in New York City, right?

Like the idea of getting in and out of here had to be ridiculous. and can you imagine, because they said day shut down pre-check at 6 a.m. Can you imagine if you had that 8 a.m. flight and you're just kicking it like you usually kick it and then you get there and that line isn't there? Like what? I can't imagine like a place where,

like people are already mad enough about having travel. Like people have their angry face on, people don't want to interact to everybody. And like, well, you mean there's pre-check clients close? Yeah, yeah. Like, no, no, no. This was, that had to be, the only day at the airport

that had to be worse than that one was the first day that they told people they couldn't bring their lotion and had to be into small canisters. That was like, I always said, the ashyest day in the history of the friendly skies. You know, people just weren't prepared

for having to be all crackling and shit like that. That just ain't what they saw coming. But when I started seeing the reports of people being like, no, but the precheck was open at this airport, at this airport, it felt like the airport was treating it. like when corporate says, okay, you can only give people one pack of ketchup with their fries.

And they're like, whatever. There's a handful in there. It's not my catch up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, hey, man, like what exactly do we have to lose from this one right here? No, no, no, no, no. Y'all go ahead and go through. Like, they was like, y'all ain't going to make our jobs no harder than they have to be.

We already have to explain to people about the lotion rules that have been in place since 2003. Yes, yeah, it's like, no, man, not today. Hey, Nazi, y'all, y'all come on. You know what, precheck for everybody. How about that? Because that's the thing for me about precheck is precheck is supposed to be some level of additional security. Have you heard about anybody getting turned down for precheck

who wasn't a convicted felon? Like, I'm assuming if you're a convicted felon that they got like some stuff for you. But otherwise, they ain't letting anybody get on precheck. They ain't any exclusive at all. No, I mean, that cost, I think it costs $80 for five years. Yes, yes. And I think 20 million people have it.

Yeah, I tell you this, though, that global entry took long enough to make me believe that they're doing some double-checking on that one. All right, Bell, a lot of good voicemails. Here's our first. Hey, Bumani. This is Mike from Detroit, first time, long time. I just want to let you know that I'm loving the deep dive in the rap in 1996. It takes me back to some great musical memories.

Listening to the episode, when you and Wally Sparks were talking about acionelli's putting in your mouth, took me back to another set of musical memories that are very near and dear to my heart. and I'm quite sure quite a few of some of your listeners, and that is when I first stumbled upon BET's uncut one late night. My eyes couldn't believe what they were seeing, and my ears couldn't believe what they were hearing. It totally blew my mind, so I have two questions for you. One, what were your initial thoughts when you first saw uncut,

and two, what is the most memorable video you can remember, and why is it Nelly's tip drill? Honorable mention to what that thing smelled like. Appreciate you, keep doing what you're going. Peace. all right so the answer to your tip drill question because i was just like this has when people produce the show for me yeah yeah yeah i was just like this all has to just be going um tip drill because i don't like remember the first time i saw bt a cut but i do remember um

so me and one of my homies this is yes it's got to be 2004 i am in graduate school not doing well not very happy. My home boy is in graduate school in a program and education. He had no real intention of being a teacher, but he became a teacher because if you did the graduate program, it came with a job. And he was like, hey, why not? And he was a very large man. So they put him in seventh grade with the kids with behavioral disorders.

Again, someone who had known. intention of ever being a teacher. Just throwing it out there. Anyway, the details and the particulars don't really matter, but sometime during the second semester, those kids got a new teacher. And my man had a lot of free time. And so he would just be up. And he told me that he had seen the video for Tip Drill and that it was so wild that he thought about calling me. keeping in mind, BET uncut came on at 2 o'clock in the morning. Okay? And I told him, if in his heart he believed that this was something that I truly needed to see,

then he should go ahead and call me the next time he came on. And sure shit. Bring! He called me. I picked up the fall. I stumbled out of bed. I went to the liver room. I turned on BET.

And I thought it was a dream. I couldn't believe that this was real life. And it was, I was so hazy and fuzzy that I did not have the opportunity to recognize the girls I went to college with who were in the video. Because I want to say he shot in a Ray Buchanan's house in Atlanta. And that video's like seven minutes long. That's the other thing. And look, here's the thing. Generally speaking, you go back and watch the stuff that felt so risque back in the day.

and it don't land the same way. Like you go back and watch the old Luke videos, it don't hit the same way. You go back and watch the Rump Shaker video. And Rump Shaker video was like too hot for TV when it came out. It's still pretty dope, but it don't hit the same way.

The Tempt Trail video is just as ridiculous today as it was in 2004. Like, what are we doing? Also, I think shaking like a dog, Canaan Abel is the one that my man did that. Shake it like a dog. That was a... And it was the dude.

from Alaska. What was the name? Jokea to bail bondsman. There was also him. Right. You're learning a lot right now, aren't you? Oh, I know about Cane Naval. Yeah, that's what I bet, but Joker to bail bondsman, I feel like that you were prepared for. Yeah, he's a rapper from Alaska name, Joker to Beal Bondsman. You earned something new every day. Yes. By the way, then I also tell you my man, Layton, Walsh, fire, but a dude, my R.A. from college, perform at the closing ceremony of the Winter Olympics. That happened today. What? Yeah, yeah, he's one of the major laser cats.

Incredible. I went to dinner with him in Barcelona a couple years ago, and I was like, oh, this is my richest most famous friend. I hadn't seen him late in 20 years. He was telling me about his life. I was like, God damn, this is crazy. Yeah, a musician money is different. All right, here's our next one.

Okay, Beau, I like the Simpsons just as much as you, right? I'm going to ask you, in the census universe, who do you think would have been on the F-Piles? and who do you think would have just shocked you? I'm going to say the obvious. I think Mayor Quimby, no doubt, would have been in the F-Scene F-Files. Krusty the Clown. I'm going to throw – I don't think Mr. Burns would have been in there,

but I think Waylon Smiths would have been in the F-stein files. But I'm going to say the most shocking one, I believe – Hey, what's his name? Groundstkeeper Willie. I think Groundkeeper Willie would have been the biggest shock. But if you want to add to it, man, I'd appreciate it. Love to show. All right.

Krusty to Cloud definitely would have been in the Epstein Files. I don't think Mayor Quimby played like Democrat, right? Like, I don't know if he's hanging out. And I feel like, man- Well, that's not necessarily. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair.

I don't know. I feel like Mayor Quimby's on the board. I would definitely say this. They would never invite groundskeeper Willie to, any of the groundskeeper willie would be on the end of the epstein files and like where's the groundskeeper like that's where i would see him smithers nah nah i don't see that one the problem with the simpsons is in the simpson's universe they just ain't enough people with enough paper to get themselves i feel like mr burns is like almost it just has to be it's like no because i don't i don't think

Epstein would let Mr. Burns come around. Got it. You know, because hey, here's the thing about Mr. Burns. The thing Mr. Burns does not seem to have much interest in his company. You know, like Mayor Quimby, I see the vision on that one. Mr. Burns, I don't think he got the energy, the the vim and vigor that would be necessary. But Krusty to Cloud, oh, that's absolutely his kind of party. All right, here's our next one. Hey, Bumani.

So this is keeping in line with the name game you got going on. It's about the name Dutch. My grandfather was named Dutch. And I just feel like it's one of those names that doesn't matter what race you are. The name Dutch is going to mean something. My granddad, he was a man named Dutch in Compton. And everybody knew, don't mess with Dutch. My uncle, my aunt, whenever they act up would go crazy, it was, well, you know they got that Dutch blood in them.

So they ain't got no sense. So what other name works like that? Where you just know, it don't matter where you're from, what color you are, race the creed. If your name is Dutch, you're going to be a fool. Whereas if your name is something like Kevin, it can go either way. Just asking the question. Oh, also shout out to your man, Deonté Lee.

He is now the head coach of my high school alma mater, Benita Vista. We were champions. Year 2000, Metro League champions. I still got the T-shirt to prove it. All right, you have a good one. Hey, but I need to know, though, is why they call them Dutch. Like, what is the point of, what do you have to do to get called Dutch?

I've never seen the answer to that, especially if you're not Dutch. You got to guess? I'm really not sure. Yeah, like, that's the part, but I do. Yeah, when you have a street-like nickname all the way through life, you have earned this. Yes. Right? And you introduce yourself by aforementioned name.

Yeah, yeah. Like it is an honorific, right? Right. Like sometimes it's like not really a nickname. For example, do you remember when that dude shot David Ortiz in the Dominican Republic? I do remember that, yes. And there was all them stories about what the reason was that I don't know what's like legal or safe to talk about. But the dude that at one time people was saying was behind it, they called him in Las Casas.

De La Republic Diminica El abusador the abuser and that's not a nickname like there's nothing clever about that

that's not a nickname that's a job description right like that's just that's what he does that is not an honorific that is a warning right

Dutch if you are Dutch all the way through that is an honorific you have earned a measure of respect that gets there before we get

to the fear. El abuzzador. Just fear. I don't know what David Ortiz was thinking. Like, I think we forget. That got real dicey. Yes. Real dicey real fast. All right. Here's our last one. Hey, Bose. This is Zach at Long Beach, California. A big fan of the show that I call in and just add to the names, sorry, add to the list of names that you typically don't see for white folks. So I want you all to go ahead and look up a table. Avon Kitchen. Tavon is a middle and long-distance runner out of BYU. Yeah, I'm curious y'all thoughts on Tavine when you look him up.

But yeah, thanks so much, y'all. Hey, Ryan, I don't know if you've noticed this, but the Mormons, they throw some monkey wrenches. Well, I mean, not to paint with a broad brush, but sometimes they're I'm just going to say they're picking their fifth and sixth and seven an eighth favorite name.

I'm not saying necessarily how they got to there. I'm saying they're, no, but I will say this though because they kind of just put some stuff together, something like, you know, I don't always understand how the combinations have been put together.

What I think would be hilarious is because I don't know anything about this young man, I don't know where he's from, but it is entirely possible that he is from a place where he has no idea, like, like, he gets out into the world, or they're like, why do people think, they're like, why do people think, they got black?

It's never come up. Yeah, there are these black Tavans out there, right? Like, there's no, especially, uh, Tavon's a runner. Yeah, right, right? But in middle distance, right? But, like, where he's at. But he shows up to these meats.

Right, like, now what's, like, maybe not once in his life, has Tavon been read off the role? And he said here and the teacher was surprised, right? Correct. He has, he doesn't understand what, what the joke is, right? He's like when Mike Tariko was like,

I don't understand what's going on, guys, I'm Italian. What are you talking about? Why do you keep saying that? You know, that's where the homie Tevon is probably coming down. But if we found out that Tevon like ran the 100, like for example, you know, I don't know if you know about this, but Chris Collinsworth was a legend in Florida because he was the 100 meter champion in the state of Florida.

And this word had gotten around that there was just like, it was like a mythical thing that there's this white guy. is because I tell you, none of these young, young boys in the league have any idea that Chris Collinsworth is fast. They got on Sunday night football. They think Chris Kyle for receiver, they hang Julian Edelman. Yeah, yeah. Or they thought he was a quarterback. Yes.

Like it just doesn't really come up if they even know that, right? But anyway, it was just like this legendary thing. His white boy was just showing up and dusting people. But I also imagine it had to be keeping in mind that Chris Collinsworth, Chris is C-R-I-S, which is an editorial liberty that the whites normally don't take. with their names. There were also some people that I was like, what you mean? That's Chris Collins Worth. Only to get dusty. Right. Only. And I think he went to Abraham Lincoln High School too, only to get dusty. What an episode, Ryan. What an episode. You made it. We did. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this four days a week. Ryan Brumley

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