The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Bam Adebayo Punches Tyler Herro, Wemby's "Max" contract, Conor McGregor's next move | 07.13

Episode Date: July 13, 2026

Bomani Jones is back from NBA Summer League in Las Vegas with a loaded episode of The Right Time, starting with the wildest story of the weekend: the Bam Adebayo-Tyler Herro fight. From there, Bo ge...ts into Victor Wembanyama’s five-year, $252 million extension with the San Antonio Spurs and explains why taking less than the full max could be great for the team but dangerous as a precedent for NBA stars. He also talks Summer League standouts, the AJ Dybantsa vs. Darryn Peterson matchup, the ongoing Kawhi Leonard and LA Clippers investigation & whether anyone actually cares how that case ends. He also reacts to Conor McGregor’s latest injury in Las Vegas, and Jalen Brown’s recent comments. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A Wave Original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. He only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. I was in Las Vegas this weekend, you know, checking out Summer League situation. And I ain't realized that it was a fight weekend. And apparently Talley Hero
Starting point is 00:01:26 did not realize it was a fight weekend. Or maybe Talley Hero did know that it was a fight weekend, but he misunderstood who the white boy was that was going to be getting his ass whoop. He thought that that might have been Connor McGregor. And correct. It was you, son. It was you. Those you who don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I guess I say this in a bit of a more broad sense, right? This is the first weekend of NBA Summer League. And I think, and I've never like really talked to anybody about this, I'm just making a certain level of assumption. but it's kind of become just like a basketball epicenter sort of situation because you've got NBA Summer League and then also this big AAU tournament that goes on that same weekend. And I've assumed that I could be wrong. And the big part of why they do that is all the NBA guys got AAU teams anyway.
Starting point is 00:02:21 So then they're going to be there. So then you get like all the college coaches who are going to be there because there's the AAU tournament that is going on there. And you got the NBA, and they even had an Aces game over the weekend. You understand what I'm saying? So it's a lot going on there. But I hadn't really given a lot of thoughts of the AAU tournament, except for the fact that it's a lot of teenagers walking around the casino.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Now, they're not stopping and sitting and playing no games or nothing, right? I'm just saying all that to say, and I could be wrong, but I just don't feel like Las Vegas is the place for high school activities. I wouldn't care if it's the Nevada state champ. I guess it's a Nevada shit. It's all the same. But you get where I'm coming from, right? Like, I just don't think that's the wise idea.
Starting point is 00:03:07 We're also going to go, Reno? Yeah, as I'm saying, Nevada, I forgot. Nevada's all Nevada, right? But even still, like, just the, let's bring the teenagers to Vegas, man. You go, I see a lot. A whole lot going on there. Don't know if I would necessarily recommend it. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:03:24 But anyway, so apparently at the resort world, they got like basketball courts, Ryan. And that's where there was some form of practice and Tala Hiro and Atabio were there. And I know some people have asked the question about like, how is it that this made the news? People getting fights all the time. Because this happened in front of a gang of people.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yes. Right? This wasn't like a practice fight. Tyler Hero sees Babab out of bio, says something and the greatest detail from the report from the athletic is the two words without hesitation. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Where they said that Bam out of bio, without hesitation, stole off on Tyler Hero in the head area, I think it was the way that it was put. Did you got to be careful about the specifics on that? And for those you who don't know, Tyler Hero had got caught, DMing with somebody on Instagram, complained about Bam and basically saying,
Starting point is 00:04:15 I don't really understand. Like, I'm the dude that they were trying to stop on offense. He ain't even got to show up, and y'all just love him, which, interestingly enough, it's not an unfair point. A bit of a diet, get off my Dickerson situation. It is, it is, except it was on his name. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:30 It was on his name. But no, I forget which writer was they reported that that was the thing that Jimmy Butler had also felt, because this, you know, that's the thing when they don't want to give Jimmy to Mac, there's always somebody that Jimmy looking like, like, you don't give it to him. Right. Normally Jimmy's right about this, but it is a pattern. We cannot deny it. But Tyler Hero seemed to have that same feeling.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I forget who it was, which one of the reporters from Miami was like, yeah, man, guys on the team wonder why it is. All of us are in the trade talks. It ain't never him. So there's a certain level of resentment. that does exist. However, I give BAM some credit because people often talk about on-site,
Starting point is 00:05:09 right? Like, it's going to be an on-site situation. I'm swinging on you on-site. Very few people actually mean that. Even if it is on-site, they're going to temper it on the front end with a little jibber-jabber, which means it's not actually an on-site.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It's on site I will go over there and eventually perhaps I will swing. No, based on the reports, this was on site. Bit of a heat-seeking missile situation. Yeah, it's on site. Right there, right there. I see, like, he'd been telling people, if I see him, this is what I'm going to do, and then he did it. It was so on-site in that way, Ryan, that I asked people if Asia Wilson was there.
Starting point is 00:05:54 because don't nobody make nobody get that battery and they back to fight quite like the girl being there. Like if he had been at the crib telling his girl he'd go whoop his ass the next time he saw him and his girl was there and he saw him, he really got to do it. Like in front of your partners, we might have understood that you was just being a little,
Starting point is 00:06:13 he was a little Aggie. Right. No, no, no, no, no. He gets like that sometimes, yeah. Yeah, apparently, Bam, Bayam could not be a Houston rock. He raised a good point there about to get off by Diggerson. Bam would have run, apparently,
Starting point is 00:06:29 Bam would have, or might have at least, run up on Kevin Durant instantly. Nah, he brought it to Tyler Hero, and I want to know what voice Tyler Hero was using in all of this. Because what they tell me about Tyler Hero was, it wasn't like that before he got to Kentucky. Then I'll never forget when he got drafted.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I had really paid that much attention to what his get down was, but I saw him at the draft and his whole thing at how he was acting, and you can look it up on Twitter, I said that the appropriate draft comp for him was Scott Storch. Like, he had all the way leaned in onto this version of Tyler Hero that we now see. This whole B-Rad situation, like, he was all the way there at that point. And I want to know when he get hit in the face, does he get Mo B-Rad or does he go back to, you know, being brand?
Starting point is 00:07:22 Right. Like, does he take it back to whatever it is? I personally am very curious about that fact. That became the single biggest story of the weekend, boy. Everybody has something to say and ask about that. Right. Nothing brings people together like a, not only a fight, but a surprise, a fight they were not expecting.
Starting point is 00:07:43 A fight they weren't expecting. And as we know, nothing makes a fight sell like a little bit of chromatic contrast. The thing is, this is where it gets weird. the white dudes that are under the Tile Hero archetype, they don't get the support of their own people unless they come back home. Right? And I wonder, now that, and remember,
Starting point is 00:08:12 Tyler's back in Wisconsin now. Like, think about this, they was mad at Tiling Hero coming out of high school because he didn't go to Wisconsin. Now only did he not go to Wisconsin, he went off and got less Wisconsin than he ever could have been. and now he's coming back to play for the bucks.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And I don't know, man, maybe he can hang out with Cuckoo Cow and some of the other Milwaukee hip hoppers. I have no idea, like who it is that he's going to hang out with. But I do feel like, and I could be wrong, somebody will have to go ask the whites. But if Tyler Hero wants to get the sympathy that you normally get because some mean black guy, when it's stole off on you out of nowhere, he's going to have to repent. You know? Like he's going to have to acknowledge some of his sins. Not apologize, repent.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got to come back. He's got to, he's got to pay this all. He got to pay you got, he got some debt to pay y'all as he returns. And you know he's repenting if he's chosen up in a Packers jersey? I think that's a part of it because I'm right, he might have turned into a Raiders fan, right? This is how you know that he's made the decision to come back. Well, no, he's made this decision to come back.
Starting point is 00:09:22 when he takes the path that many others in his situation have taken. I remember the first time I really noticed it. I want to say it was in the year like 1999, around 2000. I saw it again, maybe about five years ago, give or take. And most recently, I think I saw it one or two years ago. And when I saw it happen one or two years ago, it was post-Malone. And when I saw it about five years ago, it was just in Timberlake. And when I saw it in 1999, it was everlasting.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Excuse me. Whitey Ford. That's right. That's right. You know what time it is for Tyler Hero. If you want to get them back, you want to get the crowd back on your side, time for you to go to the pawn shop and go get you an acoustic guitar. That's right. You go ahead and do that. You go there. You get that acoustic to guitar. You learn you three chords. All you need is three, baby. You go get you. You go get you three chords. You go learn some old standards. sorts. You know what I mean? In fact, you sort of started practicing in Las Vegas, getting the crew back. You had a lot of test audience for you to work this out with while you was there. There's all of them people that came to see Kenny Chesney. Interesting crowd, I'm sure. A little different from the summer league crowd.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Well, keep it by this kind of McGregor crowd also. Oh, I forgot about that double dip. However, the kidney chesty crowd was easy to specify. I'm sure they were out of the other ones. but I think maybe Talley Hero needed to go there. Maybe he need to, because it'd be too much for him to go all the way there. Maybe he stops at the Carter-McRugger crowd on the way back. Like, this is how you, this is how you kind of work it out. Or, or, or, or he got to double down on what it was. Here's why that worries me.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I feel like I've seen very similar movies before with people like this in these circumstances where they get stole on, And they need to make sure that everybody know they ain't no pump. Please don't start carrying the gun. And who knows, maybe he carries one already. I have no idea. On the board. But I'm just saying, please don't.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah, yeah. I'm just sitting here right here. Like, please, please don't. Like, again, I know you're going back to Wisconsin. If you want to get a gun so you can shoot some animals, it's a little bit of a different situation, you know? But, you know, very often, again, in these times, people feel they got to do what it take to get back their respect.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And maybe sometimes they've got to do what it take to get back their respect. And maybe sometimes they've got to, go a little bit farther. And I'm gonna be honest. If I was him, I'd be a little bit worried that all these cats, the rest of them are going to start stealing off on me for no reason. Also, just because I didn't really hear nothing in the story about him hitting nobody back. No, no, no, it was not, they got an altercation. It was banned out of bio. They're punched out of hero. Yeah, yeah, hit him in the face here, facial area. That is a great point. Yeah. So you see why I'm worried, right? Right. Like, like, ain't nothing worse to somebody in that situation that they,
Starting point is 00:13:04 didn't feel like they got something to prove. And hey, who knows? Maybe Tyler Hero going to hear this, and he's going to feel like he can prove it, run it up on me. I'll take that for the squad. Ain't nobody going to die? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:16 It ain't going to happen, right? Like, I'd appreciate it if you didn't like pull no, you ain't got to pull no tool on me. You ain't got a pistol with me. All you got to do is come and talk real mean in my face, right? You're taller enough than me. I'll give you the satisfaction. I'll let you get your money's worth, right?
Starting point is 00:13:29 I'll take that all for everybody. If that's the route that you want to take, just to keep everything safe. But in the long run, brother, I'm telling you, let's think about some of these songs that you might want to learn the words to. Fire and rain, country roads.
Starting point is 00:13:49 You know, I'm just saying, these are kind of songs that, you know, Sweet Caroline. Just saying, like when you go back, man, you might want to play them, play them some jams that they do, right? But you got to think about how you move past this. and what places.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah, that's called a bad rude. Isn't that what y'all like over there? We should do. Yeah, like this is like this is, this is how you, this is how you make your path back or, or, or somebody start playing I, the Tiger or whatever the name of the song is, the Biggie sample for victory,
Starting point is 00:14:22 and prepare yourself for that first game against the heat because you got to come out there still off on that motherfuckering as soon as you see about there. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But the plan that's going to make you most money, three chords. Three chords and a dream. All right, the other basketball story that actually isn't for Summer League is kind of wild that Victor Wimba Yama signed his extension.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Five years, $252 million. It's a lot of money, but it's $50 million less than he could have signed for. Now, it's faith to assume that this is about, you know, the NBA and their apron situation and creating a situation where these other cats can get their money or can get some money and they can like hold the team together. He can do whatever he wants with his money, right? And maybe this makes him the nicest guy in the world because I feel like what he did was that someone could correct me if I'm wrong here. I feel like he made. He made. He made, the sacrifice so that nobody else would have to sacrifice. You understand what I'm saying? So like since Victor do that to get his money, nobody else has to do that in order to save
Starting point is 00:15:53 their money. I would not recommend setting that president, right? Now to be fair to him, and Ryan, I think this is a big part of it. It's a little different when you do this and it's about like hypothetical personnel moves that you'll be making. We know the guys that they need to give the money to. Yes. We saw them out there, right? It's, it's Della Harper, it's Castle. Who are all going to be coming up with a very similar extension in the next year, too?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yeah, or somewhere in there, right? So I don't think he winds up in the situation like Dirk Novitsky, where Dirk was just out here putting all these kids through private school just so they could go, like, win 40 games. right like hey never do they ain't never made no good decisions with dirk's money that he kept giving back to them year after year turns out that uh mark cuban might not have been the best basketball mind if we've heard anything from the way he's uh given interviews over the last year and a bottom line is if you're going to get his money back i need to know where it's going right right like there's some friends that they call you be like yo man i need to borrow some money you don't ask no question
Starting point is 00:17:00 you give it to some others would be like yeah what's this going to um what happened yeah and so it's Interesting because I think the new head of the Players Association this week did a press conference. And this big thing was about how we got to do something about the second April, which does not seem to be good for the players, right? No. Or not for the players that want to stay places. Like I think if you just look at it through a very binary lens of more money, get it whatever you want, wherever you want. But I think that, you know, guys, especially if you got a good little situation with a team, they kind of want to keep that thing together. I was talking to somebody from the league who says it feels like what's happened with these things has been an unmitigated success.
Starting point is 00:17:41 And the comparison that he made was that nobody cares about guys changing teams to the NFL every year. And that's a yes and no sort of situation. You're correct, but that's just a different game. I prefer the dynasty soccer with the NBA. And I do think that fans don't like the idea that they have to lose their players just because they got too good. In the NFL, you don't get nearly as much of that feeling. Like in the NFL, when a guy leaves the team, normally it's because the team wants the guy to leave. And also in the NFL, like, lots of players leave, but the top five or six players in a dynasty don't normally leave.
Starting point is 00:18:13 That is correct. Right. Like, you know, like the back end of the roster changes, but the face of the franchises, if you were on a sustained run, those guys are often there. Yeah, we're looking at things happening with the number two and the number three guys on the team. Right. Yeah. And that doesn't, that doesn't quite feel as good. And so the Jalen Brunson thing, I think, has led to the idea of the charm of, hey, I'll give back a little bit of money so that we can make these big moves.
Starting point is 00:18:40 But remember, Jalen Brunson was negotiating in a situation with a team that gave his daddy a job, the general manager who was his daddy's agent and his agent, who is the general manager's son. Right? That's very my seeds, marry his seeds, marry his seeds. That's how we keep Wu-Tang money all up in the family. Like that's what they were doing. By the way, that is exactly how Leon Rose described it when they got together to talk about that. This is how we keep Wu-Tang money all up into family.
Starting point is 00:19:10 That's what he said. I promise you, look it up. It's, you know, it's law. But anyway, I will never like, I do not like, ever, that is these guys' job or they feel the obligation to do the job of the general manager. That they feel the obligation to figure out how to get this done,
Starting point is 00:19:29 but to be fair, I don't know necessarily how the general managers, unless you're Sam Presti and you just got a zillion draft picks that allow you to figure it out. I don't know what else there is, but if somehow... So, okay, so this is actually an interesting progression with the agent, with the union, that is.
Starting point is 00:19:47 That the union has typically been a middle class players union, right? It's always been a, like, mid-tier level guy who's in charge, and the CBAs have always been... C-J McCorm. him. No, no, no, not even him. That's a little too high up. That's a little too high up. Derek Fisher is a better example. Okay, God, that makes sense. But yeah, but it's
Starting point is 00:20:07 just a run of guys. Like, the CBAs have been good to the middle class of the NBA. And then we saw, I think it was the 2011 lockout, that's when we saw the stars come back. That's Chris Paul being in charge. And the stars started to get some things to take care of them
Starting point is 00:20:23 on the top end of this. Because that's the thing about sports union stuff is, and there could be a wide, range of what everybody's looking for in coming out of this, right? So then, C.J. McCollum is a little bit more toward that, obviously, than the Chris Paul example. But this has been a very good union to pretty good players. Because that's, the max contract is great for pretty good players. Because since you can't give all the money to the excellent players, the pretty good players get to get a chunk. Right. The like 15th to 30th
Starting point is 00:20:56 best player in the NBA have it. Yeah. Probably have the. best deal in the NBA. Exactly, because there's money left over and that money comes down to them. And what we did see for a while and why they had to change these things up was starting with the decision, we did see some guys start being willing to give up a little money to make something happen because the NBA's whole thing was, we'll just money with you. Like, that's how we'll get the guys to stay on teams. We're just going to money with you. Now they're like, we don't really care if you stay on teams. How about that? When you think about it, it is a really weird play. In the end, there used to be all these things with the CBA to let you go over to keep your own players, right?
Starting point is 00:21:37 All the things that you can do to keep your own players to give you the advantage and your ability to keep your own players so they wouldn't go anywhere else. Now the game has changed because these guys don't even wait till free agency anymore. They sign the deals early and then they force a trade, right, which is now led to this evolution of the game where they're like, okay, well, we're just going to have to just keep moving guys around. How about that? It's just going to be like this game of musical chairs, basically, to get the guys out. But what it should never be is cats got to feel like they should give up bread.
Starting point is 00:22:08 So they're in their first big contract, right? Like, this is not like, I mean. Right. And to be clear, he took what would have been the max. This is Victor. He took what would have been the max had he not been defensive player of the year because that entitled him to the 30. percent max, the Derek Rose max, as opposed to the 25 percent max. He just took the 25 percent max.
Starting point is 00:22:32 But the 30 percent max is created for players like Victor Winniana. You have to earn it. Right. Exactly. That is like the whole. They put a whole provision in on purpose. Yes. For got the, it's why it's called the Derek Rose rule. Right. It's put in specifically. I think Derek Rose is the first guy to get it. That's why it became him. But it's like, it's put there specifically for guys like you to be able. to cash in. And I'm sorry, a world where guys do that is the greatest thing to ever happen to the bosses.
Starting point is 00:23:04 The outright greatest thing to ever happen to the bosses. And that kind of stinks, right? So anybody else that's out there, I'm just telling you right now, you don't have to do this shit. If you want to, it's your world. But like, you don't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I don't know if you ever seen Schiappel's got a bid he does where he talked about when he walked away for the comedy central money. Yes. And he said, you know, I didn't get paid the $50 million. But I did get paid, I think we'll call it, whatever, whatever. Let's just say the number was like closer to $10. Yeah. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:23:41 look, the difference between $50 million and $10 million isn't that big in application. You still go to the same places with $10 million that you will be $50. You still hang out with the same people. You can still do all these same things. I die. And he says, and in the end, the difference between $50 million and $10 million
Starting point is 00:24:02 is a mere $40 million. And that's, however you hear that, that is real, right? Like I remember when we were talking about Buddy Joel about the idea of these guys boycotting Southern schools. He's like, we're not asking for a big sacrifice. Just take $5 million instead of six. What the fuck are you talking about? We're not having a big sacrifice. 20% raise. Not cussing at you, Joel, but that's a million dollars. A million dollars, yeah. That's a big trade. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:32 That's a big trade. And now, what's the difference between having $250 million and $300 million? Oh, meditating Buddhist-ass, Victor. Honestly, I see him as being the guy that doesn't see the difference. I see the difference. You know why I see the difference? It's not even the difference about what goes in my pocket. It's about what comes out of your pop.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Show me that respect. Now, maybe he feels he's already received all that respect. Maybe he's willing to, he gets so much respect. He can give some of his respect to these other guys on the team. I'm not sure. I'm just telling Victor, when dudes start running up on you in the locker room and asking to borrow money because it just seemed like you're that kind of guy,
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Starting point is 00:26:58 social media feeds. We got you. Now, if you haven't heard. All right, Bo, if you haven't heard, brought you by Fandul, number one, number two pick, dueled off on Thursday night for Fandul, A.J. DeBonsa, taking on Darren Peterson. You were at that game. What were your thoughts? I think we need to figure out how to use this boy. They was in there dueling off. Dooling. You know what I'm saying? The boys dueling off in front of everybody. So I was there for that game. It was very interesting. And the arena was heavily invested because, you know, especially those those on the east, we don't think too much about the geography of it.
Starting point is 00:27:33 But Utah, very close. Okay? Like I went to the, I went to the Grand Canyon while I was out there. You can go there from Utah also. I didn't realize that you can go from Vegas. You can go to Phoenix. You can go of Utah. I didn't realize that.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I mean, there's multiple sides of the Grand Canyon. It's a big thing. Yeah, yeah. But either way, but there's the proximity is that is close enough. Oh, not, yeah. So what you had was on one side, the BYU guy, on the other side, the Utah Jazz. So like Utah was in the house for that game.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Those boys are going to be all stars very, very, very soon. And they were both, by the way, very heavily invested in that game. Seems like they don't like each other. It does. They do not want it. The thing you got to remember is from talking to guys like around the circuit, Peterson was seen by a lot of people as absolutely that guy. Like I mean, there are more people.
Starting point is 00:28:23 The people who think the banssa is better than Peterson are not. nearly as dismissive as the people who think Peterson is better than DeBanza. You know, like, it's really there. Peterson is that guy. The only thing I wondered about Peterson from watching how he is being guarded, again, is Summer League basketball, which is weird. But those guys are getting really physical with him, and he didn't seem quite as equipped to handle it,
Starting point is 00:28:47 which seems a little strange because he's got an NBA body, so to speak. DeBanza, 6'9 coming downhill, dog. Like, there's something to that. He is coming to yam on people, everything. else. I will say one last thing. And I think it's important just for people know. I talked to somebody who's affiliated with the Kansas
Starting point is 00:29:06 program. And I asked the read on Peterson. And the guy couldn't have been more unequivocal. He said, Kansas did him a disservice with the narratives that surrounded him.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Like, disservice was the word that was used. I'm just saying, whatever the apprehensions may be, that you have about Peterson from what happened at Kansas. The people like Kansas don't have those apprehensions. Throwing it out there. That's interesting, especially that, you know, they spent so much time with him over the last few months.
Starting point is 00:29:40 All right. Some more basketball news. The Clippers, Rafters trades centered around Kauai Winnerd is on hold and will not be completed until the NBA investigation into whether the Clippers circumvented the salary cap is completed. That got announced on Thursday. they, Silver said they hope to finish this investigation and process in a few weeks. Bo, what are your thoughts?
Starting point is 00:30:04 If it takes weeks, they're being ridiculous. Like, I don't, wow, that would, that seems crazy to me if it would take weeks. I will tell you this, though, for talking to people, you know, in the league office there, nobody knows. This one is wrapped up tight. Like, if you know, it seems to be a very neat. to know situation on what's going on with this investigation. From the conversations I was having while I was around there, the clippers are unequivocal.
Starting point is 00:30:40 They didn't do anything wrong. Like, they firmly, firmly, firmly, firmly riding out the idea they didn't do anything wrong. If you saw the union statement about it, they are unequivocal. Kauai didn't do anything wrong. I have no idea if that is true, but ordinarily there's a level of equivocation that you see from guilty parties that hasn't come from any, like we've seen what Balmers had to say about this. That's just for whatever it's worth. Nobody seems to think that trade is actually going to be on hold for whatever it's worth. But I can't believe this is still going on, right?
Starting point is 00:31:18 And it's gone on so long that people are now more loudly saying in, public at least, do we care? You know, I think that's the big question that in the end, I don't think there's going to be a satisfying ending to this for anybody. I think that if the league says nothing happened, there will be many people who find it to be conspiratorial. I think if they say something happened and the punishment is not heavy, then people are going to say, or a certain segment of people will say, you're just defending Steve. Balmer. If they do say something happened and the penalty is harsh, those of us with good sense are going to say, who cares? Right. Like in the end, deep down, they paid their max guy
Starting point is 00:32:07 a little extra money. That is what leads me to believe, by the way, that nothing happened because I've never understood what the incentives were for the clippers to do all this, to pay extra money to somebody that nobody else could pay as much money as they did. Right. It's not a bidding war. Yeah, right. That's the part that nobody can explain to me. Like, when Joe Smith,
Starting point is 00:32:29 the legendary cap circumvention situation, and also the clippers tried it with DeAndre Jordan, but that period, Joe Smith and DeAndre Jordan, those are the guys that you circumvent the cap for. And I know that sounds crazy. You're like, those guys aren't even that good. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You get those guys to take a little bit, you get those guys to take less money for the cap, and then you figure out how to get it. Because your max guys get a max, and they get a max slot. This is, yes, this is, this is exactly what we're saying, right? You tell that guy, come here for a little bit extra, a little bit, don't worry, we got you, right?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Because somebody else is offering them more. Nobody else is offering more for a guy that badly wanted to play in Southern California. Like, that's, that's my only thing, right? When it really comes down to the end, I think it was a very interesting story when it came out. And Pablo's presentation of it caught a lot of attention. But I do think it's more time past that more people, were kind of like, yeah, I mean, I guess, right?
Starting point is 00:33:28 Like this, I don't think this is the corruption that's really driving anybody crazy. But I am intrigued by the fact that the accused parties are so unequivocal in saying, we have nothing to hide. There's no they are there. But I don't know what Adam can or can't tell the law firm that's in it. But there's no reason for this to continue. and especially if it's like holding up this trade. I think it was Shams that reported that when the Clippers were playing in the summer league games,
Starting point is 00:33:59 the guys they got in the trade were sitting on the Clippers bench. Right, and they still are. Yeah, nobody thinks this trade is getting held on. I mean, Kauai was in Toronto for. Yeah, they did hold for Kyle Lowry thing. Right. But that was before the word had gotten out. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:13 The trade was on hold. Right. Right. But the long and the short is nobody thinks this trade is going to get held up, which is an indicator to me, that nobody thinks anything big is going to happen as a result of this. We're going to see, right?
Starting point is 00:34:29 But the NBA, it's time to call. It's time to, street lights on. Time to come home. All right. You talked about this a couple times, but the McGregor fight was in Vegas the weekend you were there. And it didn't last very long.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Connor McGregor made it about one minute until having to leave with an apparent knee injury. His first fight in over five years, don't doesn't make it over two minutes against max hallway Bo is this the last we see of Connor McGregor I mean one would hope but if he comes back and say he's gonna fight you think people will watch
Starting point is 00:35:03 because I think they would question number two what his money looking like like I don't know how this goes for the MMA guys versus the boxers but when you need a little money just come out ding and throw hands one more time by the way right you ever been in Vegas four fight weekend
Starting point is 00:35:21 I have not. Okay. So I've been in Vegas for a couple of fight weekends, but never for the fight. I was just there. And so you just get the vibes on the floor in all the casinos of what happened because you're not even really paying attention. And the fight goes on early in the evening West Coast time because of East Coast television. So it would be like 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock, whatever. And they all get out of there.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yeah, you're getting out of concert and they all get out of there. So like, for example, I was there once with Conello lost a fight. and buddy it was some unpleasant Mexicans walking around there some sad some mad i didn't want to i didn't want to get in the way of any of them but i'm just walking around and the mcgregorites are just they just look i don't know non-plus like it was very difficult to get what the energy was only to find out that they do it and it kicked his knee off that's an old man injury if it is ever ever been an old man injury but i bet he still got his check um speaking of m m&a and boxers i think we're going to see him box again against someone else who might need some money pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I mean, here's my question. Why is it not against Jake Paul? I don't know. Jake Paul fights white people, but that seems to be the most obvious fight. The one time he fought a white person he lost. Right, right. Oh, that's right. That's right. Tyson Fury's brother. Yes. But I mean, I think this makes sense, right? Like, they're both amateur boxers. Um, McGregor will be a, will be a, I mean, if Tyson, obviously, McConnell McGregor was never Mike Tyson. But Mike Tyson is, but Mike Tyson is, still a draw at over 6th. I completely forgot that happened.
Starting point is 00:36:55 It happened multiple times. I completely forgot the Jake Paul thought my ties. Wow. What is this world? Where are we? My God. All right, Bo. A couple of voicemails.
Starting point is 00:37:16 We had a lot of people with Jalen Brown thoughts. Let's start there. Here's the thing about Jalen Brown. And I mean, we have to quiet the nonsense around this tree. When you're Scotty Pippin, but you think you're MJ, you got to go. And that's that. I have to say, when you put it in those terms, I was going to throw something out there about Jalen Brown from when I was there. I saw some of these quotes from these interviews that Jalen Brown has been doing.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And I don't want to do that right now. I don't. I will just say this very briefly. He is sounding very familiar to me in a lot of these interviews. And he sounds very familiar because I have taught college freshman before. And I don't mean that as an insult. But there's that energy, there's that kind of curiosity. He's got these opinions, but they clearly haven't been tested, right?
Starting point is 00:38:21 Like he has to run more books than people who went to his high school, but not more books than people he's around now. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, I was saying about the book reading part, right? Is that he has a lot of thoughts that have not been approached. with rigor. So like his whole thing about the agent model is broken because guys go broke. I was like, that's not
Starting point is 00:38:38 how that works. Like that's not those guys job. You don't okay, so now you don't have an agent. Is that going to stop you from going broke? Right? Like that doesn't, like, again, these are things that make sense on their face and then they just don't hold up to, but so many questions.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And that's what I've been seeing in him is like, oh, okay, I get it. Like, it's not like you, it's not like there's nothing there. But that's how it is when you teach college freshman, right? You come in and you got all these ideas, and then the professor sons you, and then you get better and it builds you back up, right? And I just don't think he's been in that circumstance, but that's the discussion. The thing I wanted to bring up about him that I did think was interesting and important to point out
Starting point is 00:39:19 is that, and for me on my end, because I think some people misunderstand me, I think his heart is in the right place on all of these things. I think what he wants, and I think he has identified the way I see things, he has properly identified, for the most part, who are the good guys and who are the bad guys, right? I think he has identified the causes that matter the most. I don't think he's always as equipped in conversation, but I do think it's important to note that I would say that he and I are on the same side, and I don't want to be but so mean towards somebody that's on a different side.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And so I was talking to somebody who's around the Celtics, the country of Celtics. And he made a very good point and I hadn't thought about it. And he was like, let me tell you this. He's like, black Boston is going to really miss Jalen Brown. Like that he went out of his way to develop a relationship with the black population of Boston in a way that
Starting point is 00:40:15 I don't want to say it was unprecedented because that's too far, but it's not a guarantee for members of the Celtics, right? And so he's their guy. So when it comes around next year and he's going to Boston Guard, and he's getting booed and people are talking about all. But you know how Boston feels, da-da-da. That's some of Boston, right? Like, I got into an argument in the internet many years ago with a guy,
Starting point is 00:40:35 and if you know anything, you'll know who I'm talking about, but don't be messy. And I felt like we had a great misunderstanding. It just got to be like, oh, man, but it's one to catch that, like, really rides for Boston and really loves Boston, right? And I get it. And I realized what the issue was, and he's a black dude from Boston,
Starting point is 00:40:52 and they feel very erased. that like when people talk about Boston and who lives there, you know, I mean, I don't have to tell you the image that you get in your head. There are a lot of black people in Boston. It's one of those cities, though, where you don't meet black Bostonians outside of Boston. There's a lot of cities like that, Cleveland. Like, how often do you meet people from Cleveland outside of Cleveland? That's fair.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yeah, yeah, you know what it means? And so that dude, I think that his anger was misdirected, but I understood the source of his anger was the idea that we are here. and you just keep acting like everybody in Boston, you know, sounds like that, even though y'all talk like them too. But still, like, you know, I got where he was coming from on that.
Starting point is 00:41:35 But anyway, this would be an example of why somebody like that would wind up being frustrated because there is a whole section of Boston, I guarantee you it's going to be very sad to see Jalen Brown go. But they're not going to be the ones booing his black ass to smithereens
Starting point is 00:41:49 when the Sixers come back to the garden. All right, we had some more Jalen Brown thoughts. What's up, Bobani. What's up, Brian? This is Jordan and Charlotte. I just listened to the pod with Burnham and Maxwell, and I got to say I really enjoyed it. You definitely got to bring him back on as a guest. But I do have to say, Jalen Brown and his top five, ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:42:12 What I call Vern ridiculous to his face? Absolutely not. But that's ridiculous. Anyway, that's not why I called. I counted 57 fucks, motherfuckers, motherfuckers, motherfuckers. from Vern and I just wanted to ask after a call like that, after recording like that, do you got to call a mom
Starting point is 00:42:30 and warn her before she listens? Anyway, I appreciate what you do. I've been a long time listener and look forward to your continued success. Appreciate it. Thanks. Number one, that number is lower than I expected. You have to remember that's more than one a minute.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And yet and still. It is lower than I expected. I actually probably should have warned her. I forgot to. talked to when I was in Vegas, so we were talking about some other stuff. I did not warn her. She did send, first of all, Vernon sent an apology on Twitter. And my mother sent me a text that said, Vernon Maxwell needs to expand his vocabulary.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I showed her Vernon's apology, and she said, I accept. I love how immediately everyone was like, oh, man, Bolshebos Bolls not going to like this. But she has absolutely become like the silent partner of this operation. Everybody knows she's there. Everybody understands. As she should be. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Here's another one. Hey, Bomani. This is Edmund and Phoenix. Listening to the Danny Parkins podcast and him reading from his suburban newspaper, I thought of like, you know, some stories. What was the dumbest thing you got the cops called on you for? So this is what happened to me and my brother. My grandmother lived in a retirement community called Saddle Brunk in Tucson, Arizona.
Starting point is 00:43:50 It was the worst, most boring place in the world. but that's a separate story. Anyway, my brother and I get hired to do some yard work for one of her neighbors, you know, make a couple bucks when we're in high school. Anyway, we're in her front yard and we're trimming down grapefruit and collecting the grapefruit so that we could either, you know, donate it or get rid of it or something. We finished the job. My brother and I are walking back to my grandmother's house from her neighbor's house.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And this woman cop, you know, for this retirement community, rolls up on us in a golf cart and like she's in the movie heat. She thinks that we are pretty much, you know, like we need to get on the ground, you know, put our hands behind our back. And she rolls up on us and she says, we got a report from a neighbor that there were two high schoolers stealing grapefruit from another person's yard. Anyway, we told them what happened.
Starting point is 00:44:45 We had to walk the security guard back to the neighbor and knock on the door, tell them that we were working for them and like, you know, she had to like check it out. But anyway, we got the retirement community cops called on us for trimming grapefruit in someone's yard. Anyway, love the show, love Dan, Danny Parkins, reading out his newsletter or his newspaper. Hey, and Ryan, that's what they did to Edmund.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yes. Do you think the cops from Danny's neighborhood retire and go become retirement cops in this place in Scottsdale? That's a very good question, but I'd say it is, but that was a reminder of it. And it's very important, man.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Old people ain't got no time to be thinking about this. Old people ain't, old people ain't giving you no chance. None. I'll just call the cops. I paid a lot of taxes for those. All right. Here's our last one.
Starting point is 00:45:47 What's up, Beau? What's up, my love to show? A long time listening to the first time. I wanted to call about the favorite topic of the voicemail line. So back in 2014, I changed jobs and I started doing some district operations work. Originally, I was supposed to be supporting one district manager on one district. A couple days before I start, my direct manager calls me. He's like, hey, you're actually going to be supporting two districts and two district managers.
Starting point is 00:46:11 And so I asked him, did my predecessor leave? And he says no. And then he says her name and just says she's going to be moving to a different district, but she's still going to train me. So I'm like, okay, cool. First day, I'm supposed to go meet with the second district manager because I hadn't met her yet. It's in a black part of Birmingham. Everyone in the office that I see is a black person.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And so based on the name, I got, this is living up to my expectations. And so, after we're finishing doing the paperwork, me and the district manager kind of just doing a small little get to know you chat. And she apologizes for springing it on me last minute and says that, after she heard about my interview, she felt that I would be a better fit for her team personality. Now, that probably should have been the clue as to what I was about to walk into,
Starting point is 00:46:58 but I didn't think anything of it. So we go around the corner to where my office is going to be that I'm going to be splitting with my predecessor for the time being. And when I walk in, I see this older white lady on late 40s. And she looks like she could have stepped
Starting point is 00:47:12 right out of that old soap opera Dallas. She stands up and extends her hand and says, Hi, I'm Jaquetta. in the thickest Alabama accent I've ever heard. And it took everything in me not to look over at the district manager and be like, you're serious? But after five minutes with her, I understood why I was a better personality fit.
Starting point is 00:47:33 If you know, you know. But as a bonus, I've known two white Andres in my life. The first I used to work with, he was late 40s. This was like 2011. And he went by Andy. But one of my current friends who's in his 30s, he goes by Andre. He is a white Andre. I told him that I was going to make this call.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And if you guys picked it, I was going to play it for him. So if y'all do, he's probably going to laugh. Love a show. Peace. He tried to go with Andy, huh? Yeah. He tried to go with. So the thing about White Andre also is White Andre can be French, right?
Starting point is 00:48:09 I have a cousin who's White Andre. And, you know, that's where I'm from. That's right. You got, like, I got a, he's not a direct homie, but shout out to him, homie, Cedric at the hat shop in New Orleans. He is Cedric. And honestly, I didn't realize it's Myers hat shop down there in the French quarter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Or right. Or not, it was not in the French quarter. It's right. I was on St. Charles. But I wouldn't, I didn't realize that Cedric was like a member of the family. I thought he just worked there because his name was Cedric. But, you know, we got that. We throw that French out there.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And then it's like, oh, okay, anything is possible. I wonder if the people in France, like, realize that me and my folks, um, decided to take on their names like that. Probably wasn't what they had in mind, but, you know. No, I just want, well, you know, they like, they like, they think we're super hip. They love Josephine Baker, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, so there's, there's that. But yeah, Jaquetta, hey man, I'm just saying we a lot more alike than we are different.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Is that, is that fair to say? I would agree with you. That thing, we a little, we're a lot more alike than we. give ourselves credit for being things that we can keep in mind. But ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this a few days a week during the summer. Ryan Brumley handles everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Hit the voicemail line 3-235-9-6-7-6767-67. Remember, follow the right time, subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a
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