The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Bill Belichick blown out, Packers overpaid for Micah Parsons, Arch Manning struggles | 09.02

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

On today's episode of the Right Time,  Bomani Jones reacts to Bill Belichick and UNC losing 48-14 in their season opener against TCU.  Later in the show, Bo discusses the possibility that the Packer...s overpaid in their trade for Micah Parsons with the Dallas Cowboys.  Also, Bo breaks down how things are going to get much worse for Alabama Football and Kalen Debeor, why no one should be surprised with Arch Manning's struggles vs. Ohio State, how Stevie Wonder and David Bowie have more in common than you think, and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. We are coming off the first weekend of college football.
Starting point is 00:00:26 This is also the first time that in spite of a federal holiday on Monday, we're still giving y'all three episodes. You're welcome. This love, I'm probably. Anyway, a lot of college football. We got some Michael Parsons. After I had a little more time to think about Michael Parsons, had some more stuff to say.
Starting point is 00:00:44 We will get to that. But I've got to tell you, if you listen to our college football preview episode with me and Spencer Hall, got to tell you guys, man, we did a lot of being right. Like, it's not really often that that happens, right? I'm not so much patting myself on the back.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Yes, I am. But I'm just saying, like, I don't really get to do that very much. I'll come out here and tell you when I was wrong, like I will when we talk a little bit about Michael Parsons because I show anything they was going to trade him. However, the college football stuff, we were right, but in some ways, not only were we more right than I expected us to be right,
Starting point is 00:01:18 in some cases we were a writer than I wanted to be. Case in point where we were writer than I wanted to be. North Carolina got a national television game on Monday night, on Labor Day, playing at home against T.C. I am 45 years old. I don't think that there's ever been a time in my life that this many people watched a North Carolina football game on purpose. I don't think so. The only other time it could have come close to that is a game that Ryan probably remembers, which was the game that North Carolina played against LSU to start the season in 2010. You were there right, when North
Starting point is 00:02:02 Carolina didn't have any players left because of all the NCAA stuff, and Lest still almost found a way to lose that game. Almost. Carolina dropped three touchdowns, I believe, at the end of that game. T.J.8's best performance of his career, for sure. And also, it was the day that I realized that Patrick Peterson was something much different than anything that I think I had ever seen. I believe that was also Tyron Matthew's first college football game.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It was. It was time. I'm at the first conference football game. And that whole LSU season was the entirety of the Les Miles experience. That is also the season where, what's his name? Derek Dooley sent 15 people out there for that last play of the game. That is also the season where somehow, some way, Jordan Jefferson got the first of his two victories at starting quarterback over Nick Saban at Alabama. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:01 The only guy is that. Just the entire less experience. It was tired, but lost to Arkansas. Yeah, of course. I was Arkansas without Derek McBadden. Yes, yes, yes. Incredible. Okay, a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Sorry, let me get back to North Carolina. The score was 48 to 14 in this game. They got their ass kick. Now, let me tell you what I think was interesting, though, about watching this. It's, I could make the argument that this is a very encouraging outcome for Carolina fans, while also being a very terrifying outcome for what is going to happen. in the course of this season. Look, I need everybody to understand how badly I wanted North Carolina to win this game.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Now, as many of you know, I went to graduate school at North Carolina, and I hate Duke basketball like they did something to me personally. However, my desire to see North Carolina win this game had nothing to do with either of those things. If you listen to this show and you know me just a little bit, you know the biggest reason I wanted North Carolina to win this game. I wanted them to win this game just to spite Joel from Missouri City. That is the only reason I wanted them to win this game.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I want to be able to talk that shit to Joel like nobody's business. I was already preparing to say that apparently TCU, they like the hostesses. They like the welcoming committee. You know what I'm saying? A new star shows up on the block and TCU show them around and make sure they have a good time, just like they did for Dionne Sanders. You know what I'm saying? Like that was, I was here.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Like, I was ready for that. And if you watch that first drive that Carolina had, it looked like that was exactly what was about to happen. That little bitty quarterback was out there making throws. They was running the ball. All of that was going down. I was like, hell yeah, Joe is going to get even sick of me than he already is. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no, he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:04:49 He wasn't. Carolina had, who are? They had everybody at that game, bro. Carolina had, see, this is one thing about Carolina, by the way. Even with football, they can go high. level star. Like when they were a shock in awe with high level stars, they can do it on a special level, right? Michael Jordan pulled up, Roy Williams pulled up, Pett pulled up, L.T pulled up. They had the clip of LT, Roy and Michael Jordan in the box. And I'm just imagining being Roy Williams
Starting point is 00:05:21 in the course of that. Because Roy know how to talk to Mike. Roy and Mike have known each other for for 45 years. I don't really know what is like when Roy talked to L.T. I don't know what it's like when anybody talks to LT. I imagine that everybody wants to get out of talking about
Starting point is 00:05:41 politics. But anyway, those cats were there. Randy Moss was there in the box with the first little lady of North Carolina football. They had all that, like it was all there and they just watched them boys after that first drive get hammered.
Starting point is 00:05:57 They just watch them boys get destroyed. I don't know who wears number 29 from North Carolina, but they're going to call that boy toast because he was just out there getting fired up. Carolina fans will probably evoke the name of a dude named Jordan Hemby when they talk about him because everybody knows that corner that gets lit on fire. No matter what team you wrote for, I've said this many times, and y'all going to get in these YouTube comments on this and say exactly what I'm talking about. Go ahead and put down that corner that your team had that just stay getting this.
Starting point is 00:06:27 his ass fired up. That was number 29 in the course of that game, man. It was, it was just happening. They were destroyed. And here's where I come from on this. One, I saw great room for encouragement early in that game. And the reason I saw great room for encouragement early in that game was I thought that Carolina looked very well coached, especially on offense. I saw a quarterback who dropped back and kept his head up and moved pretty well in the pocket, which is pretty impressive considering he was without question the shortest man on the offense. Okay. When they ran the ball, it looked like an offensive line that was well coordinated and did the things that they needed to do.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I had serious questions about Bill Belichick and the big brain brand of football that he coaches how well or easily he would be able to teach those things to college players. And I think it's entirely possible that something that Belichick probably enjoys about this job is that it is more of a teaching job. Like he might be a Larry Brown type who yeah could coach in the pros, but what he really loves to do is get in there and teach. And now he has a better. opportunity to teach. And so for me, that is very encouraging, if you're a Carolina fan,
Starting point is 00:07:59 that this looks like a well-coached team. Like we're going to talk about Alabama a little bit later. That looked like a poorly coached team. That's when you get terrified, right? This looked like a well-coached team. The problem is I looked up at one of those plays in the first half, and I forget what run and play TCU called, like I'm going to be able to tell you. you exactly what the run and play was. Let me stop pretend. Brother, them boys moved furniture. They picked that Carolina defensive line up and moved them the hell out of the way. They looked really light in the ass at the line of scrimmage on defense. And if you read the ESPN.com article about the program, you will understand. They had 70 new players, and it's amazing
Starting point is 00:08:52 that they got 70 players because they were, I don't know, I was about to use an ethnically inappropriate reference to what it was like when everything got first started there at Carolina, but imagine that it was like a fire drill with no plan. Speaking of fire drills of no plan, I just pulled up UNC's football coaching staff, and I want to read some names off for you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Obviously, you know, don't bow check the head coach, Michael Lombardi, the general manager, His son, Matt Lombardi, quarterback's coach. Freddie Kitchens is the offensive coordinator. Yes. Not one, but two Belichicks are on the defensive side. And also, to go back to the top of the show, Mandy Miles, Wes, his son is an offensive assistant.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Ooh, really? Yeah. On purpose? Sounds like it. Wow. Wow. Yeah, so Freddie Kitchens was on the staff last year. And I feel like, this is probably a job that Freddie Kitchens could do, like coaching the college.
Starting point is 00:09:56 You know, something you could probably handle and get done. But they got to get players. So I think it was David Hale and Andrea Adelson. They have a very interesting story about like the beginning of the Belichick era. And one thing that happened was these guys let their hubris get in the way. And they basically fired everybody before they showed up and were like, yeah, we need to keep things lean. but the arrogance that it took for you to do that without having any idea of what college coaching is or what the whole job was or anything like that, they knew nothing,
Starting point is 00:10:30 nothing about what to do. But they got like their examples in that article about recruits coming in for visits and sitting in offices for like an hour and never actually getting to meet Bill Belichick. Like they fired the people whose jobs it was to do things like book playing tickets. And so they had to go back and hire people like in the short run just because they had no idea what it was that they were doing. And it sounded like slowly they were able to get things back up to speed. But they turned over 70 spots on the roster and it doesn't look like they turned them over and got better. Don't forget this team last year, for example, I had a Marion Hampton,
Starting point is 00:11:04 running back, who's probably going to run for a bunch of yards this year. I think he plays for the Chargers. That guy ain't there. That quarterback, he looks very talented, but my goodness, he is a diminutive fellow. Watching them get pushed around, you realized, man, they don't have the guys. Maybe they'll have the guys next year. Maybe they'll figure it out. But like your general manager is a guy that doesn't know anything about college football. A lot of these guys that you got on staff, like Steve Belichick spent a year at Washington. He's the defensive coordinator. But that was a year. Just a year. And I want to say this also to you, Steve Belichick, if you're so insistent about having that goddamn mullet, don't tie it up.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Be that guy. Let it hang. Or get a fucking haircut. Look, look, look, look, look. I ain't going to lie, man. The thing that makes me wonder of Bill Belichick guy when it takes to coach college players is he can't even get his son to get a decent, reputable haircut. I don't know. What are you going to tell these other kids? But I digress. They don't have the guys. But to get on television like that and to get embarrassed, I can't, it was the absolute opposite. Like, worst case scenario for what North Carolina hopes for under those circumstances. This is a chance that they're going to have eyeballs on them like they probably will not again anytime soon. I don't know what.
Starting point is 00:12:19 exactly it's going to take to turn this around. Belichick in the pregame interviews was talking about how we're not close to good, but he can see that we're getting there. The problems with that team do not seem to be problems that are going to be fixed with more practice. They're going to need to get some ringers. You need to go out here and find some guys. Hey, man, it looked like you might be able to get some dudes from, I don't know, West of Salem State, North Carolina, Central, Elon, they look like they got some guys that might be able to play for y'all. I just didn't think that it just did not look like they had the talent that is going to be necessary to compete in the ACC.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Man, they might lose the Duke. Like, I don't, I don't. They got to play Quimson in a few weeks. They do have to play. And by the way, that was another team that didn't look like the talent was quite what people told me it was. For sure. I mean, I mean, that was majorly to double A compared to watching U&C to get pushed around last night.
Starting point is 00:13:15 That is correct. No, no, don't give you wrong. you're right. You're not wrong. And let me tell you something else, Ryan. I don't know if anything going to hurt Bill Belichick's ego more than losing a game to a coach like dabbo Swinney. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:29 It is, that is going to be, he's going to learn why college football is different than pro football very, very quickly. You and I have talked before. I think we were talking with Spencer about this before we record a college football preview about the game that ended the Urban Meyer era at Florida. And it was that game against. LSU where Lest was going forward again, 2010.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yes, the crazy 2010 season of LSU. They were going forward on fourth down doing crazy stuff. Was that the one? Yeah, that was the one where the holder threw the fake field goal over the shoulder. That's right. It bounced. It bounced backwards. The kicker picked it up.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And when they asked Urban and bought it after the game, all he could do was waive the question off because he could not discuss the idea that that meat head had in some form or fashion outcoached him. This just couldn't handle the idea. Dabo Sweeney, who is an absolute Hall of Famer as a head coach
Starting point is 00:14:28 and done an amazing job at Clemson, but he didn't do it with the brain. Okay? That's not how he got it done. Bill Belichick is going to have to deal with guys like that beating him. The Bill Belichick, who owns Mike Tomlin, is going to have to deal with getting cooked by the like. of Dabo Sweeney,
Starting point is 00:14:49 Sunny Dikes, because that just happened. He just got her from Sunny Dites. Like, ooh boy, it's not going to be the easiest year for the man. It's not.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It's not. And all I needed him to do was beat Joel to know. That's all he had to do. That's all he had to do. Instead, here I am, offering congratulations to the biggest hater I know.
Starting point is 00:15:22 All right, guys. So after the Michael Parsons trade, we immediately fired up the microphones, got up here, did a quick little YouTube exclusive, check that out. If you have not checked it out. And I ain't going to lie, man. We just did that for the money. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:38 Y'all wanted a little something right fast. I prefer to take some time to think things out a little bit. But, you know, we went ahead and got that bread right fast and gave you all that fix that you all that you need it. Now, after having a little time to think about this, I've got thought, thoughts on a couple of different directions, right? Thought number one, the report came out that leading into week one, Michael Parsons is going to need an epidural injection in his back because of whatever is wrong with it. And Ryan, I have to be honest. I was right there with my buddy Dominique
Starting point is 00:16:15 Foxworth where he had been talking about how his back was hurting in camp. And we all thought that it needed a very simple solution. And you just rub some more. money on it, it was going to get fixed. And they rubbed money on it and that didn't work. And still needs, I mean, when people start talking about the back and start bringing out the L's and the C's, you know, I know that it sounds real like when they start talking about the different vertebra, that's when you know it's serious. Hey, man, when they start talking about the C's, we got problems, right? Like, that's what it is. But apparently he needs an epidural injection. And this is a case where maybe I'm simply limited in my knowledge and my understanding of what
Starting point is 00:16:53 exactly is like what all the different kinds of epidurals are because the only time we hear about an epidural is when the toughest people among us are going through the most intense pain of their lives and that is when they need an epidural. I never hear that term come up otherwise. I don't hear that term really come up in sports otherwise and we hear about guys going through some serious pain and Michael Parsons needs a shot in his vertebra in order to get back out here to play. His vertebrae. bro, like vert, bro. See what I'm saying? Anyway, he need that shot going into this game. On top of that, just want to throw this out there. The Packers are paying him $47 million a year
Starting point is 00:17:37 on this deal. Now, we had the information on this contract. I don't want to pretend like when we recorded before I didn't have the information, right? But just a little bit more concerned of getting this out of here. What I did not properly consider or think about with this deal is the absolutely blew the box on this. A 100% blew the box. The high for a non-quarterback up until that rhyme was, what, $41 million? Yeah, TJ, I mean, oh, we saw TJ Watt get paid.
Starting point is 00:18:11 We saw Michael, Miles Garrett get paid this off season. So right around 40, 41 million. And then Mike, like you said, blows the doors off of 47 for four years and 136 guaranteed. Hey, man, and look, I understand that he is young. than those other guys. But I got to be honest here. I don't think there was any circumstance under which Jerry Jones is going to pay him $47 million a year. Right? Like I think that we were a lot of the reporting coming in that he was offering more years for more months. Like right around
Starting point is 00:18:39 41, 42, but for five or six years. And then his agent is like not a chance. Yeah, absolutely. But there's no way he was going to be hitting for 47. No chance. None. No chance. No chance. I don't, I don't know how many people would have done that. But it actually makes me look back on this and say, I fully believe that this became personal for the Cowboys, this became personal for Jerry, this became personal for Michael Parsons. And that's the biggest reason that the deal went the way that it ultimately did. But if Jerry had paid him $47 million, think about my buddy Nick made this point. If Jerry had paid him $47 million, we'd be killing Jerry for paying him $47 million. Like, if there was a world in which Michael Parsons could get
Starting point is 00:19:19 somebody to pay him $47 million, he was going to need to do whatever. kicking and screaming, he needed you to get to that place that was going to pay him that $47 million because as much as we say, the price for these things kept going up and up and up, the price did not go up to $47 million. It didn't. The Packers took that price to $47 million. So what you're telling me right now is that the Packers got a guy that they just had to give an epidural and they are paying him something in the neighborhood of like almost 20% more than what they're the going rate for a player like that had been. On top of that, Albert Breer, who works for Sports Illustrated, and of note, Breer covered
Starting point is 00:20:04 the Cowboys back in the day. So he is somebody that I think you can trust as being pretty well sourced around that organization. And Ryan, I had heard this also just not in the context of the Cowboys, just in the general context of Michael Parsons. people don't so much like that dude. Yeah. They don't.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I mean, historically people, you know, yeah, that seemed to be in the ether. I've heard somewhat jaw-dropping stories about reasons there are to not be particularly big fans of that gentleman, right? Now, is it a bit of a smear job, right? After he leaves? Maybe just maybe. But what I found interesting was,
Starting point is 00:20:49 apparently DAC doesn't like them very much. By the way, Dak is the quarterback, whether you Michael Parsons or not, right? Right. Jack don't really rock with him like that. And a big part of why the people don't rock with them is that damn podcast. Now, I need you to understand, I work for a company that produces podcast for current athletes. Okay. I think it is ridiculous that these guys do.
Starting point is 00:21:15 These podcasts like the podcast that they do during the rest of. regular season. Now, I need you to understand the history of active players and coaches doing media during the season is long running, right? The coaches show on radio, for example, and a lot of these guys, like Tom Brady did those appearances on WEEI in Boston, for example, for all of those years. This is a thing that happens, right? So I don't want to pretend, like people have a tendency to act like not everything new is new, right? But what is different it is, these cats sit there for like an hour at a time and actually gives their real live opinions.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I mean, Michael came out and said that Dak Prescott wasn't a top five quarterback in the NFL on his podcast. That was insane. That you never say, hey man, it's just how I feel. Who gives a fuck if it's just how you feel? What are you talking about? You don't do that. It is crazy that into me that any of these guys do these shows.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I just can't for money that I can't believe is worth it, right? I just, I personally don't get it, right? Like, I'll say this for the Kelsey brothers who do not do a show for this company. Yeah. I don't ever get the feeling they talk about anything that matters that much. No, they're out there having a good time. They're out, they're not out there given their, um, trying to break the internet with their takes. No, I've never, the only time I've seen them do it is when they acted like what
Starting point is 00:22:43 when they asked what position in the NFL was the hardest to play and Jason Kelsey said it was defensive back because it was so hard they don't even let white guys try to do it anymore. That was, that's the greatest moment in the history of that podcast as far as I am concerned. But no, man, you can't,
Starting point is 00:23:01 it blows my mind that he or anybody else does one of these shows. Now, to tie this back to what the original point is, all I'm saying in some total is I got a little bit of a better idea how it is in the end. This dude wound up going somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Now, typically, a guy as good as he is, man, you find a way and you make it work. And I think we all understand that, right? As good as Parsons is, you typically put up with whatever. But money-wise, at what point was it that you were going to stop? And I think that no matter what it happened, that point was going to be somewhere before $47 million. dollars, right? I don't, like, the Packers are paying a gigantic price for this, and they just had to stick a needle deep into dudes back. Like, this trade doesn't look, it was so shocking and stunning when it first happened, but it doesn't look nearly as crazy to me right now as it did
Starting point is 00:24:06 at the time. Like, the Luca trade for me is interesting because it looks crazier for me as time goes on than it did at the time, even if I halfway understand why they did it. This one dies down for me. Like it doesn't, it doesn't look nearly as bonkers when you put everything together in some total. Now, of course, if the Green Bay Packers win the Super Bowl, which is entirely possible, then, you know, this is what it's going to be. Now, of course, they have to play against America's team in week one. And those of us, hashtag one pride. Like, we expect the Packers to get an understanding of how difficult this is going to be for
Starting point is 00:24:50 them, even if they have Michael Parsons on the team. But let's watch and see how all of this goes for everybody, right? It's going to make the noise around the Cowboys much louder. but let's also see what the noise around Michael Parsons is now that he's up there, now that he's making all of that money. And by the way, now that he's playing for a team that doesn't believe that all publicity is good publicity in the way that his last team did. Yeah. This NFL season is going to be messy, Ryan. Yeah, it's coming at the exact right time.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I mean, Mike getting traded a week before the season. I mean, I was excited already. But Mike is, you know, what content dreams are made of, if you will. Nothing will be crazier that if the Cowboys somehow beat the Eagles on Thursday night. And then the Lions come out there and beat the Packers by two touchdowns. Yeah. That will, yeah, fuel to take engine for sure. That would be great for business.
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Starting point is 00:27:33 Let's get to the stories that happened this weekend. Alabama lost big 31 to 17 to Florida State. As Spencer Hall and you guys talked about before the season, you guys mentioned the possibility that this could get ugly in Alabama and it looks like it's already starting to. The heat is on. It's on the streets. Look, it's one thing that the heat is on.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It's another thing that it's week one and it looked like. the heat was on. Like, you looked at, you looked at Canem DeBore on the sideline, and that stress was getting him. Now, I have been talking about this for years. Some of you have been hearing me. It's really me talking to those of you who, quite honestly, if you're under 35, at this point, like, you could be a real live, full-on adult, and you just don't understand what we've been trying to tell you, which is this is one of the worst jobs in the country to have. There are two kinds of people who work the job in Alabama. Legends and dudes that get run out of town.
Starting point is 00:28:42 There really isn't any in between Bear Bryant and Nick Saban, both of whom who got out just ahead of the cavalry, right? Like if Nick Saban was about to have, they went 10 and two, I think his last year. If he had gone through and had a 9 and 3. Losing in the Rose Bowl to Michigan. Yeah, but if they had a 9 and 3 last year, When Nick Saban, it has sounded just about the same. There is no equity. There is no goodwill. Win forever. That is what you've got here. All right. And so DeBoer, who it's a job you have to take, right? You get offered that job. You take it. But he went from working one of the most underrated jobs in America, which is the job at Washington, which is a job where we've seen a lot of coaches win a lot of games at Washington.
Starting point is 00:29:31 We saw Don James do it. I mean, we saw Jim Lambright do it after. And we saw Rick Newhiles will do it. We saw Kalen DeBoard do it, right? Chris Peterson. Yeah, Chris Peterson. Right. We've seen guys, a lot of guys with a lot of games there because you have access to a lot of talent
Starting point is 00:29:45 because Washington is the one city job that is the one city school that is not a city school. Right. They are in Seattle in a real live city, but it still feels like you're going to college, right? There's a difference between Washington and say the University of Houston, the University of Memphis, even Georgia Tech, which has the academic restrictions, even in Miami, where you're like, oh, man, we're competing for attention in this city. That's not how it works there in Washington, right? They got a 70,000 C stadium that they fill up, that's beautiful, all of these things. And he went down here to this place, the only school that expects a national championship every year.
Starting point is 00:30:25 That's where you went. And we're seeing it, man. We are seeing it. We're hearing the rumblins come out that the discipline level with the players ain't quite what it needs to be. And honestly, they look soft. They looked soft. They looked soft. They just lost to a team that went two in ten last year. They had to go get not just the quarterback from Boston College, a quarterback that got
Starting point is 00:30:50 benched at Boston College. And he stood up in the offseason and said, Nick Save and Cane Save, y'all, I don't see y'all. I don't see how they going to stop me. And neither did we. We did not see them. stop him. Hey, hey, hey, hey, guys, guys, this, this has the potential to get a lot of worse. And they don't have a quarterback. Yeah. That's, that's, and that to me about DeBore is shocking.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I don't know how you wound up, especially in this day and age where you just got to go spend the money and get a quarterback. I don't see how he went up with this guy. He just brought back his old O.C. He bought back grub. Like, you know, these guys are, you know, have been together forever. And, you know, Alabama's a game where you don't get, like, talking about Goodwin. Well, they beat Georgia last year, but you don't get the goodwill from beating Georgia when you lose to Vandy and you lose to Oklahoma and you lose to Florida State who you were favored by by 14 points. Yes. Hey, hey, let's look this up. Let's look this up. All right. We got this stat. I'm sure you guys have seen it, but it's been around. This is from Brett McMurphy. When favored by more than 14, 14 points, Nick Sabin was 131 and 2. Kalin DeBore is four and four. Hey, hey, hey, hey, let me tell you this right now. He's not. He's not. going to get fired. It'll cost $70 million to get him out of there per the buyout, right?
Starting point is 00:32:10 He's basically like a tenured professor. And if you've listened to this show, you've heard me talk about what they do to tenure professors. They figure out how to make them quit. And what Alabama will be hoping for in all likelihood at the end of this season is that someone offers that man a job. Someone a little closer to home from him looks around and says, well, how'd you like to come here? And he jumps on the first thing smoking. Because of those post-Brient, post-Brient pre-saving coaches, Ray Perkins was not fired. He quit.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Bill Curry was basically fired, but officially he quit. After going 10 and 2. By the way. Okay? Dennis Franchone, quit. Got out of there on the first thing smoking. and they ran Gene Stallings out of their job. I'm just telling you, Alabama does not typically have to fire these guys.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Like many of these jobs, Ryan Day and Ohio State, for example, people are like, oh, it's a hot seat for Ryan Day. No, no, no, no, no. It's not a hot seat in the sense that they're going to toss him out of it. It's a hot seat in the sense that it's going to be very inconvenient for him if he loses to Michigan again, but they're not going to fire him from that. They don't do that. Alabama's the job where they get you out of here for this stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah, but again, even... Don't make your life miserable. Right, even then not firing. It's just going to do. going to be really, really miserable for him if he don't get it turned around real fast, real, real fast. Also, shout out to Gus Malzad, who is a man of many splendors and many quirks and many charms and his most amazing trick is he can beat Alabama. That he, like, there will be day where Auburn looks back and was like, you know, but he would beat Alabama once every
Starting point is 00:34:03 three or four years. And that's good enough for us. Yep. It should be. It certainly should be. It should be. What more can they ask? Look, I don't know how honest you are with yourself about LSU, right? But the truth is, but LSU is a consistent nine and a half win a program that occasionally can win a national championship. But if you look at it, year, after year, and this even applies to the saving years, you're by and large going to lose three games a year. It's about how it goes. Auburn is a very similar like eight and a half, nine win program. It's about the same. But every now and then, everything can line up right and you're playing for a national championship with Nick Marshall. But if you beat Alabama,
Starting point is 00:34:46 every three years or so, everybody's going to be happy. All right, sticking in college football and people struggling. Arch Manning made, you know, his starting day. national debut for a lot of people against Ohio State did not go well. 17 to 30, 170 yards passing one touchdown, one interception as Texas lost to Ohio State 14 to 7. Tough for Arch in front of a big audience. It's tough for Arch and to a degree, the surrounding hype has been wildly unfair. Right. And again, I don't understand this because he's not even patents.
Starting point is 00:35:30 First of all, first of all, there was Archie Manning and there was Peyton Manning. That other boy should not even be involved in this conversation and that other boy ain't even this boy's daddy. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, you're the day world coming from here. Like, we're doing this to the young man and he, from what I see, he has picture perfect mechanics. He is very, very athletic. He doesn't seem to be that good yet. Right? Like, he is a, five-star recruit. I will say that. Like, you look at them. This is not the greatest quarterback we have seen since blank. This isn't even truly the most hyped quarterback we've seen since. James Winston and Johnny Mansell won Heisman trophies as freshmen. You're telling me that there was more hype around
Starting point is 00:36:15 Arch Manning than there was about those guys coming back, right? You understand what I'm saying? Like, that doesn't. You're telling me there was more hype around them than Caleb Williams coming back after winning the Heisman trophy. Are Caleb Williams going from Oklahoma to USC at first? Yeah, yeah, come on. You're not selling me on this. And so we built this up, and it winds up being like a pile on to the kid after the fact when it seems that he and his granddaddy are the most reasonable people around this. Remember what his granddaddy said he's coming back for, he'll be back in 2026.
Starting point is 00:36:47 And Ard just like, oh, I don't know where he got that from. I know where he got that from. He know you ain't that good yet. He knows you need the time. And he is going to need the time. And look, somewhat encouraging for Texas, I would say, because I think that'll probably be the worst game that Arch plays this year. And they only gave up 14 points on the road.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Like, I mean, this, if you're Ryan Day, this is not encouraging for your- No, they're one of the least explosive offenses in all of SBS in week one. They were like about 1-30s. Yeah, this ain't getting nobody off your back, right? This is not going to do that. But this is what's encouraging to me for North Carolina, is that Matt Patricia, who never really demonstrated himself to be a great NFL defensive coordinator,
Starting point is 00:37:32 and he's still doing that thing where he got a pencil behind this year, but the play sheet is laminated. Shout out to my guy, Stu Gottz for pointing that out, because if anybody knows, if anybody, if anybody can I spot some bullshit like that, it is absolutely Stu Gotts, right? So this dude, I'm here. Game recognized game. Game recognized game. That's it. What you doing with that pencil, homie?
Starting point is 00:37:52 All you're going to do is stab yourself by accident. That's all. but he was able to import whatever his scheme is to these college players and you saw what he could do if you got the bodies, right? If you've got the players, now you can make this happen. So when Belichick gets the players, if Belichick gets the players, then maybe you can see the scheme get implemented, right? But for Ohio State again, they're going to need to figure out how to score some more points
Starting point is 00:38:22 and just a heads up. Did you see Bryce Underwood for Michigan? Yeah. Yeah. That was. Yeah. Former LSU commit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I saw the Highland to Bryce Underwood. I forgot about that part. My man, Big George Foster, he put a couple clips up on the Internet of Underwood because I hadn't seen him. And I was like, oh, my goodness. that right there is going to be a problem for three years. You know who another one of those who had some highlights? You know who on Sunday,
Starting point is 00:38:58 they played Sunday afternoon so I don't know, a lot of people saw it. But Sellers? Yeah. Oh, man. Sellers looks like an old school, excellent college quarterback. I don't know how good he's going to be in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:39:11 but he looks really big, really strong, fast enough. It plays in South Carolina. Yeah. They're going to have a lot of fun because they also have a big, fast wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:39:21 I think his name is Nick Harbour or Nick Haber, who looks like a track star out there. So they're going to do a lot of chucking it deep and watch sellers do something, and that's going to be fun. But the real thing that's shocking with Arch bringing it back to that is it's not that he looked rattled and he missed easy throws. Like throws you can spot from your couch, like wide open. Like it didn't take a expert to explain how he struggled. And I think that was almost harder.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I agree with you, but the thing I would say for him, it was a point that I tried to make about Caitlin Clark last year and it's going to be really germane to her next year as this year has been injury filled in all of this. Stop trying to give it to these people before they actually do anything, right? Like you can acknowledge they're a big deal. You can acknowledge the level of interest around them. But the truth is where this gets to be interesting and what makes you truly love and respect these figures is what they do when it gets hard, right? And like maybe some of you don't remember Peyton Manning's time at Tennessee where he lost to Florida four years in a row. Went to the Orange Bowl his senior year against Nebraska and got their doors blown off. It ain't always easy, man.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Like there are things to overcome. There are things that you got to push through. And it will be more gratifying as a viewing experience and for you as fans. If you watch Arch go through the struggle to then get to the. the other side. And right now, it's the struggle part. So let's see how he responds to that struggle, because that's going to be the real test of whether he is, which you say he is, not how easy it looked in week one. All right. We're moving on as summer winds down. We're reacting to an article from heat mat news about how electricity got so expensive. Over the past few years, electricity prices
Starting point is 00:41:15 in the U.S. have risen sharply surpassing inflation by a wide margin, while it can be poled. to blame renewable energy, but the real driver of this is the infrastructure itself. Utilities are more expensive because the poles are more expensive, the wires are more expensive, construction is more expensive, the transformers are more expensive. And what has happened to that is electricity has gotten way more expensive for the rest of America. Brother, I got an electric bill the other day that I couldn't believe. Like, I don't even want to say the number out here in front of these people. send you the number right now on text, Ryan, and you can answer this with your face. I don't think,
Starting point is 00:41:55 I don't even think I needed to tell you, you know, you been to my house. Yeah, you just saw it, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I was like, I don't know what I need to do. Like, I had to start doing all kind of stuff. Like, I was like, okay, well, maybe 78 degrees isn't that hot in your house after all. Like, you know, these are the things we had to change. I mean, it looks like fall is coming faster for the rest of America. Like, I mean, it was seemingly cooler all over the United States. And I think that is going to be a relief for lots of people. Speaking of homes, we're acting to a Wall Street Journal article, talking about a new trend for prospective home buyers. They're requesting to stay overnight or rent properties in the short term before committing to a per just, for example, people, you know, buying a eight-figure home have offered to do a two-month stay. but fully furnished combinations.
Starting point is 00:42:51 This is trend of getting traction in high in markets like the Hollywood Hills, the Hudson Valley, Florida, and Texas. Essentially, people have started to test drive cars, or test drive homes like they are test driving cars, Bo. Yo, I have to say, I understand
Starting point is 00:43:07 why it is that this had not happened before, but this is something that should have happened before, right? Like, I think this happens to people fairly often, and it has certainly happened to me, me where when you walk through a house and go through all that stuff, there's no way you can tell like what all the things are. Right. And it is amazing how little something can be that can make a house borderline unlivable. Right. So like, for example, I live in a place right now
Starting point is 00:43:40 that I enjoy a luxurious bubble bath, right? I like to just kind of lay around and think about my day or whatever it is. But the bathtub is so narrow on the sides. It's like yay big where you ain't got nowhere to hold the soap. You see what I'm saying? That's really annoying. Yes, it's incredibly annoying. I don't get to use the bathtub anymore, right?
Starting point is 00:44:04 It sounds like you could get like a TV stand for your bathtub. Right, right. And then it's like it's a giant tub. And so the faucet that pours water in it is too small. So it takes like forever in order to fill it up. Like it's all kind of futuristic stuff going all with it. But it's all these little things that if I had test driven the place, I probably would still live here.
Starting point is 00:44:26 But if I had test driven the place, I'd have been like, oh, these are things that we kind of sort of need to think about. And so if you're going to be paying these prices at the interest rates, I'm a little surprised that there's enough interest in it that the sellers now have to go along with it. Right. You know, because what do you do? I mean, because we're not about to move.
Starting point is 00:44:47 You're not about to move your furniture. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, are we switching out the furniture in the course of this? Yeah. It's, uh, I think it's fascinating. I think it's, um, I think it's interesting how these corporations is always finds ways of making more money. And this is just an easier way of what, I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:05 you know they're getting some cut of this as well. This is, it's just a fascinating way of like figuring, well, you know, we could sell it, but we could also get commissioned for renting it before we sell too. Yep, but I see the vision. I do indeed. Absolutely. And finally, we're going to the U.S. Open. This story went viral. After an upset when a Polish tennis player tried to gift his sign hat to a young fan, but it was very quickly snatched by an adult. Later, identified online as a Polish CEO quickly tucked into his bag. Internef Slews, founded identity, and review bombed his company. So that's what happens when you steal
Starting point is 00:45:48 autographs from kids. My, look, you knew he was giving it to the kid, right? Of course. Okay. Now, I admit the whole thing of like if a foul ball comes in the crowd and you get it and a kid wants it, you should give it to the kid, do not agree. Do not agree at all. That's a once in a lifetime situation. Do you do you kind of think of that as like not letting kids win in board games? Like if you want to get the ball, that's exactly it. That's exactly it. You have to earn it. Sometimes life isn't fair. Now, do I think that you should cut in front of the kid to catch it?
Starting point is 00:46:26 Probably not, right? Do I think you should do that with a t-shirt? Probably not. But the foul ball, it's a little different, right? Like, like, like, so I'm just saying that to say that I'm not a sucker for kids in this way. But you knew that was not intended for you. And on top of that, I don't really know how things go down in Poland, but I would imagine in America, you can get your ass kick for that, right? Oh, absolutely. Like somebody's pops is there and this is what it is? No, man, we got to scrap it out. And also, if you're running any company, you have to know that, and you're at a very publicly televised event, you have to assume that you could possibly end up on camera. Yes. And so if you're going to, it's like, you know, a couple we talked about the Coldplay concert over the summer, like, if you're
Starting point is 00:47:15 going to be in a place where there are a lot of cameras. You have to adjust your poor behavior accordingly, or at least try to. And brother, you're a Polish CEO. You're telling me you can't get in a room with this Polish player some other chance. And I make this happen. Yeah, how many tennis stars in Poland? Come on. But counterpoint also, by the way, just silver clear.
Starting point is 00:47:35 And this is the thing I think about often with these different things that these kids get. If that kid sitting close enough to the court to get this hat, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be he'd be getting lots of stuff. Just throwing it out there. I bet his bed room more tricked out than mine. But the dude was still wrong. All right, Bo, we're trying out the new voicemail line. Just kind of asking for general questions, prompts from the audience.
Starting point is 00:48:06 We got a few good ones. Here's the first. Hey, Bo. This is Jake from the greater Southern California area. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on what's going on in academia right now. I know both your parents or academics, you've obviously spent a lot of time in and around higher education. And, you know, you're clearly passionate. about education and, you know, that it matters.
Starting point is 00:48:26 My wife's a PhD. She's a lecture and the vibes. Obviously, now are not great. But obviously, there's a lot of the political stuff going on. And, you know, who knows how that's all going to shake out over the next several years. But it also just kind of feels like we've lost our way when it comes to, I don't know, an appreciation and an interest in education. I mean, maybe even knowledge in general, but obviously, like the structure of education is something that we do not value. It seems like we used to.
Starting point is 00:48:52 question is, is there anything that we can do about this? I'm just curious if this is something that you've thought about or that you and your folks talk about, you know, all that good stuff. Thank you, sir. Keep up the great work. Take out. All right. I appreciate that. For years, I've thought about it from the bottom up. And yes, our appreciation for education in this society became strictly as you need education to serve the economy, which was not always what this was about, right? And it was not always the intention of the people going into school. But then from there, it really came to, we're just doing things that serve the economy. And when you look at like the majors, they get eliminated and all of this stuff, it is for those reasons. I think it's a university,
Starting point is 00:49:36 I think it's Indiana. Indiana University, I believe it's called, not University of Indiana. But I think it was at Indiana where you look at the majors that they were getting rid of. And it's just like, oh my goodness, you're turning a tier one research institution into a trade school, basically, right? but the real concern for higher education right now, it's not about our attitudes for education. It's not your kids and their reliance on AI and nobody explaining to them that it's not just about getting a grade. You actually need to learn something, so forth and so on. The issue is not those things.
Starting point is 00:50:05 The issue is not from the bottom up anymore. It is from the top down and the clear and obvious intention to destroy the institution of higher education. And there were people who called this before it started happening with the Harvard lawsuit, the Columbia lawsuit, all the stuff coming down from the Trump administration. But what is happening is that the very idea of higher education is being destroyed. The places that provided are being weakened terribly in a way that you can look up historically what types of societies do this and what the end game is when this happens. You don't need me. You don't need me to tell you what it is. You can go look up who it is that's done this when, why, and what the
Starting point is 00:50:53 end results have been. And it is absolutely terrified. So it has gone away from me being afraid of how stupid your kids are, to me being much more afraid to how stupid the people are that are above the people who would love to try to teach your stupid kids. Nope, nope, nope, no. It's going to be worse than your kids being stupid. It's going to be your kids literally having no shot. All right, let's get to a little one that's a little bit more fun. Yes. Omani, Mike from Pittsburgh. I was thinking about David Bowie and how if you have any three combinations of his albums in your top
Starting point is 00:51:31 and how many different combinations there could be to still make a respectable argument. I was wondering if he's singular in that or if there's any other artists that come to mind. Thanks. All right. I appreciate it. So, Ryan, just to make sure I understand what he is saying, he is raising the question about, like, is there anybody that you could put more combinations of their top three records? And plausibly say that. I actually like someone who has, like, you know, 10 albums, you can make the case that three are the best. If I think it's a gap over, yeah. Yeah, I don't think, off the top of my
Starting point is 00:52:09 head, I don't think there's anybody else that you could do that many for. right so for example with prince the top three prince albums to me for most of whoever you happen to be is going to be some combination of four records um dirty mind 1999 purple rain and sign of the times is going to be some combination of those four um the marley catalog is interesting because you can kind of bounce around with how you do it but it's more the consistency of the catalog than like the specific outright highs Bowie and I had to pull up the list just be able to do it. Honky Dory, Ziggy Stardust, Low, Lodger, heroes, let's dance,
Starting point is 00:52:58 and then depending on how you feel about like young Americans, I don't love that. Oh, station to station, I forgot. I just gave you seven. And I think that you can reorder those three. I mean, take the top three out of those, any order you want to,
Starting point is 00:53:12 and you're coming out pretty, pretty damn strong. I think most of us the way we think of the Led Zeppelin catalog, you can't really do it like that. Now, when you get to like Miles Davis, that's when we start talking about something completely different where anything feels possible when you go over there.
Starting point is 00:53:30 But now that you say that, and the more that I think about it, even Stevie Wonder, is on this, right? That was what I was about to ask. I was trying to get you into a Stevie conversation. So the thing to me about, Stevie that I think is underrated
Starting point is 00:53:45 is that everybody likes to talk about how cool they are. And so they start picking up the post-Motown assembly line records. And so they leave out for once in my life. They leave out sign sealed and delivered. I feel like there's one more of those that they then leave out, right?
Starting point is 00:54:02 But they skip to go straight to where I'm coming from, music of my mind, talking book, InterVisions, Fills, First finale, songs in the key of life, hotter than July if you want to get there. We're talking like 6, 7, 8, just unreal.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I can't believe one person is capable of doing that. So to me, yeah, it's those two guys. Like the 1970s gave us David Bowie, Stevie Wonder, Bob Marley, Curtis Mayfield, maybe the best part of the Rolling Stones catalog. Zeppelin, if that's like really like your bag, what you want to get into. And this is just, this is me going off the top of my head. You get like other bands like the Osley brothers got three or four unreal ones in that time period.
Starting point is 00:54:55 The OJs got a crazy run of unreal stuff that comes in that top period. And we could go more and more. Nothing is beating the sevens. Nothing. All right. Here's the last one for maybe for new listeners of the show. Hey, Bo. Happy Labor Day.
Starting point is 00:55:13 So I've been a listener since the right time radio show with Shannon. And you say it a lot. But can I get a clear definition of a herb? Like I'm pretty good with context. But like, and I kind of get what it is. But like, you know, since we're doing this, can you give me and the rest of the people a clear definition of a herd, please? Appreciate it both. Later.
Starting point is 00:55:41 You know, it's always tricky because as I say, I've never met a herb name herb, right? Like, we just throw this name herb out, but every herb I know, I guess maybe they all understood that they had to overcome, you know, what was before them in order to make it happen. Can I give you like a clear definition of a herb? It's kind of one of those. You know a herb. When you see a herb. But like-
Starting point is 00:56:06 I know there's a ruling for the Supreme Court, it's either in decency or pornography. That's right. I cannot defy it, but I know it when I see it. Okay, so I'll give you an example. Russell Wilson used to be a herb, but not anymore. Oh, Russell Wilson, that was a herb. New Russell Wilson, not so much. By the way, Ryan, have you noticed the most interesting thing that has ever happened that I can think of? Russell Wilson has become Travis Kelsey and Travis Kelsey has become Russell Wilson. Did you notice that? Who had that on their bingo cards 10 years ago? I feel like I saw a picture of Travis Kelsey in a Hawaiian shirt,
Starting point is 00:56:48 and I was like, oh, man, the switch is complete. Like, you look at Russell Wilson in the clothes that Sierra picked out for him? We see Travis Kelsey to say things are all, all things are possible of God if they win another Super Bowl. The full-s switch and body switch will have been complete. All I'm saying is, if it was 10 years ago, and I asked you which one of them is going to marry Sierra, and which one of them is going to marry Taylor Swift,
Starting point is 00:57:13 which direction would you have gone in? Salim, just all love, by the way, to all parties involved, right? They all cool. Everyone seems happy. Everyone seems happy. Everyone seems happy. Everyone seems happy. But it is, when you think about it.
Starting point is 00:57:27 It's a bit of a switcheroo-o-o. Switcheroo. It's really, it happened. It happened. But hey, ladies and gentlemen, Thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this here three times a week. Ryan Brumley handling everything behind the scenes.
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