The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Bills Beat Chiefs, Dodgers win all-time World Series, Auburn fires Hugh Freeze | 11.03

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

Bomani Jones kicks off the show by reacting to an explosive week 9 of NFL action, including the Bills beating the Chiefs and whether it matters long term, and the insane ending to the Bengals-Bears game. Later, he talks about an insane Game 7 of the World Series between the Dodgers and Blue Jays and how it helped him rekindle his love of baseball. Finally, he discusses Auburn firing Hugh Freeze, a lack of rap singles in the Billboard top 100, and much more! 00:30 - Bills beat Chiefs again, does it matter? 15:20 - Reaction to an all-time game 7 31:20 - Auburn fires Hugh Freeze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. Got a lot to get to.

We are going to talk about what might be the greatest world series of all time. But first, we are coming off another Mahomes, Allen matchup, Chiefs and Bills. The Bills won. during that game, they threw a number at me that really was kind of staggering when it came down to it. They said this is 2020. That was the 10th matchup between the Bills and the Chiefs, specifically with Mahomes and Allen at quarterback. The Bills won this game on Sunday. That is the fifth straight time that the Bills have beaten the Chiefs in the regular season.

That's what they were saying. of course the Chiefs have won four straight times in the postseason. And Ryan, tell me if I'm being a little bit too cynical about this, but once they rattled that statistic off, I all of a sudden felt like, why am I watching this? Right. This doesn't feel like it matters at all. Right.

I mean, you want, at some point, Josh Allen can't lose the Chiefs every single year. Right. But when we've seen this play out four of the last five years, it does sort of feel like we're doing the same thing all over again. Yeah, I was like, damn, why are we here? You know what I mean? Like, I really got, you know, they put it at the four o'clock or whatever. Like, I don't know why.

It felt to a degree like those Manning Brady games mattered in a way that it did not feel like this game matters. We got a lot more of, we got a lot less of them, right? I mean, this is, I think they played 10 times over the course of their, you know, 18 or 20 years they were in the league together. We've gotten 10 times now in since, again, 2020. Yeah, I think the other different, the Brady Manning thing was also so compelling early because it was a while before we actually thought that Tom Brady was better than Peyton Manning, except for the fact that Brady's teams kept winning. Then we got to a point where Brady seemed to be Manning's equal, if not superior. And then Manning's performance or his team's performances relative to the Patriots also started to pick up, right? I would say the Brady career is interesting because when Tom Brady was his best was probably between the years 2005 and 2013 when they won zero Super Bowls.

But, you know, the Brady Manning matchup kind of had its ebbs and flows that were very, you know, that are kind of in line with the point that gets made there is that it's not always about this one person. But even still, I get hype for Mahomes Allen because it feels none of these, Mahomes has made none of these games. feel important when it comes against these guys because of what it's been in the postseason with those dudes. It's the same thing. I feel like we get a decent number of Mahomes Lamar Jackson matchups. Now, granted, Mahomes, as I recall, has been pretty thoroughly dominant if quarterback wins were a statistic, of course. It would be pretty dominant in that one. But all of it, for Mahomes, just like, I didn't let all. Like, I watched the way he dapped Josh Allen up after the game. They seemed to be pretty warm and friendly. And if I was a lot of it,

Mahomes, I'd be warm and friendly with all these guys, too. If I was Josh Allen, man, fuck that guy. Like, we could never have a dab hug after a game. How could we ever, at some point, I got to stop catching these ills that matter. Caught that ill at your own crib. Like, you know, remember that time that Buffalo lost the game, but everybody treated Josh out like he wanted just because they was ahead with 13 seconds left. Like, somehow, it's all about the 13 seconds part and nobody gives Mahomes credit for walking

them down the field with those 13 seconds. Anyway, we give Josh Allen a heap and helping of credit for that right there. And I think we still watch these games in the regular season also, man, maybe this will be the time that he overcomes except it seems that he always overcomes these. That being said, the chiefs are five and four, right? We have developed such a startling level of respect for them because, of course, part of this is they got better players or more guys have come. come back.

You know, since early in the year, this is not the team that lost those games early. At that same time, this is still a team that's five and four. They're not going to have home field for the playoffs. As it stands right now, it is going to be a little bit tough for them to win their division. Like, we're at the midpoint of the season. They're two games behind the Broncos. They're a game behind the Chargers. Like, they have ways to go to get to that.

point. Anyway, the chiefs go win to AFC as far as I'm concerned, Ryan. Am I the only, I don't feel like I'm the only person that's there. Like, once I realize it then played a regular season game against Buffalo doesn't matter. It really was. Like, why am I even here? What am I doing? It's starting to, it's starting to feel a little Patriots-esque and a little Jordan-esque. Yes. Right. Like, there's so much goodwill towards Mahomes and the expectations of Mahomes. And to be fair, I mean, he's been to what, five for the last six Super Bowls? So I think that has a lot to do with it. But, you know, it is, they feel inevitable in January in a way that is, that is quite rare.

Except Mike was never the equivalent of five and four. And I don't have great recollection. Except for that year that the Chiefs lost on Monday Night Football, or the Chiefs beat the Patriots of Monday Night Football so bad that we all thought it was over. And then they came back and won the Super Bowl that year. Like, that is maybe the closest thing. There won three more Super Bowls. they did after it was over.

But think about this. I don't know if you watched any of the Colts and the Steelers. A little bit, yeah. The Colts are starting to look like bullies. They smack the piss out of bums. Like they run straight through bums. And then when they play good teams, not so much. I know they got that win over the Broncos,

but isn't that the game with the leverage penalty? Right. Yeah, the weight penalty, and that was, you know, I think that was week two. Yeah, but a game would look like they were going to lose. against a team that I think that I don't know how good the Broncos are, but I know they're not bad. Right. Right.

And that was another game. When Indianapolis plays against good teams, it doesn't seem to go. The Steelers beat them and the Steelers are leading that division, but the Steelers don't feel like they're a good team. The Patriots also have this tendency of beating up on bums. None of this indicates that anybody going to get something on the Chiefs, right? They still seem like those guys. they still seem like that team. But you would think that, like, if they were,

this would be a game that they would win. And, you know, this is when you know you definitely start getting yourself into a space of your own personal level of confirmation bias. And that's what something like that happens and you just say to yourself, well, hey, they'll be there when it counts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's actually a rather Stugatian sort of thing. I feel like that said in that moment, be like, hey, don't you worry, guys. They'll be there when it counts. It counts. That's the stage where we are. But tell me one person that hears that and does not say sincerely to themselves, yeah, you know, they probably will.

That seems like it. Because I did not, I guess I don't feel like I came away from that game feeling great about Buffalo, which I don't think going into it, many of us did. I think the one place where you could say that you did come out of that feeling pretty good about Buffalo is their defense. a touch shaky, right? A touch shaky. They didn't look shaky in that game. They didn't get run upon like they've been getting run upon.

They didn't get, my home's, I think, at the lowest completion percentage he's had and God knows when, all of that. Like, these are the kind of things that can make you feel good, but to counterpoint, and I can bet you since you're probably going to hear this, before my buddy Nick does this TV show, they may roll down a banner, something about them winning their annual Super Bowl, which I'll be honest with you.

a Buffalo fan. I think I would find myself wanting to fight that dude over that one. However, that seems to be what we got. But nobody else over there looks good. Denver won a game against the Texans with a concussed and out of the game, C.J. Stroud. Oh, wow. Ryan, I'm seeing something now that I did not know.

Davis Mills still in the league? Davis, well, that was, that did happen to me. I saw a drop back and I heard Davis Mills, except I was mixing him up with the other one, the one that's a coach now. TJ Yates. No, no, no, Davis Webb. Davis Webb.

Yes. The guy that Cliff Kingsbury kept at Texas Tech instead of Baker Mayfield. Right. That did happen. That did happen. For those who don't remember. But no, I didn't realize that the Panthers beat the Packers. Yeah.

The Packers are the real team. I feel like all of us want to say is really good that we all want to love. And they just won't do their part. And to be fair, I think all of us feel that way about Jordan Love specifically. Yes. It's the team and him. Because like when he is, when he's dealing,

he looks like one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. And then he makes some of the worst throws I've ever seen. He does. Like through to the other side of the end zone where today, where it was just a Panthers player sitting there, just boneheaded plays. He looks like Farr before Farr got it together. Right.

And that's going to be, it's going to be interesting because the Packers look back fondly on the roller coaster ride of Brett Farr. But it wasn't always fond. Like there's that stretch with those three MVPs that I guess you become kind of like the man incontrovertibly after that. But otherwise, that was. That was a ride. That was a ride. And then you got Aaron Rogers, who if he actually had a fault in his prime, is that he was a little too risk averse.

Yeah, that was the thing. And now they've got, who we're going to see. I think that he is going to be gigantic star quarterback. The thing is, I think the expectations of the Packers kind of require him to be that superstar quarterback like right now.

And that does not seem to be the case. Speaking of, actually I don't have a, segue. I just wanted to bring up that America's team, the Detroit Lions, lost the game to the Minnesota Vikings. And that boy, Flores, he dialed up a

heater for the Lions. They just simply were not there. They weren't ready. They also really couldn't do like a great job stopping the run. But, man, I got to tell you, being invested in a football team and then you look up in the other team, quarterback,

don't even look good, but they winning. I don't, I don't like how that feels. Now, Ryan, you're a Saints fan. You don't know anything about what that feels like anymore. I remember what that used to feel like. Yeah. It was a fun, a very, very fun, 11, 12 years. And now it's never happening again.

You just tried. You did. Like the thing that people don't understand about the Saints is without question. The second best quarterback of the history of the franchise is Aaron Brooks. Not in close. And by the same, it's you guys who don't fully understand that. Correct. So I'm close.

So I'm close. There's no, there's no rational, yeah, it's not even close. And they've never taken a quarterback in the, ever taken a quarterback in the first round since Archie Manon, right? Right. How is this possible? It feel, and they're, and they're steamrolling to the number one overall pick in a year that doesn't have a quarterback.

Correct, correct. Like, under those circumstances, what do you do? They'll prop, knowing if Loomis is still there, I'm sure he'll draft an interior offensive lineman. Yeah. I feel like Looms is going to be there forever, by the way. He's been there, I think, since 2001. Yes. As long as I can remember.

He was Chris Greer before, you know, Chris Greer who just lost his job. Yes. By the way, guys, shout out to the Chicago Bears. You guys amazingly won a game. I don't. I wasn't watching the game. I just remember at some point while Ryan and I are kind of texting, trying to go, you know, figure out what we're going to do for the show.

and he says, we got to get Bears bangles in there. And at that point, I had looked up. And the Bengals were ahead and a crazy finish. And there were 20-something seconds left, except the Bears actually won this game. But what is crazy? This is the craziest thing to happen in the NFL this year. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

You let me know. But it is week 10 of the NFL season. Or maybe it's week nine. It is week nine. My apologies. It is week nine. and Joe Flacco threw for 470 yards in an NFL game. On 10 yards an attempt.

An NFL team this year looked around and said to themselves, we got to go get Joe Flacco so we could get better. And they went and got Joe Flacco, and they got better. This actually happened to the point where Mike Tomlin was mad, did somebody got Joe Flacco? Then why didn't we think of that? Yeah, right. All we've got is Aaron Rogers.

Yeah. Like, do you think there's a world in which Aaron Rogers goes to 4070 yards in a game this year? Because I don't. Like that game they played against the Colts. I was watching that. Dude, he just looks like a guy. Like every now and then there are Aaron Rogers moments and he has like, we've been watching Aaron Rogers now for nearly 20 years.

So we know what it looks like to be Aaron Rogers. He has a very distinct style of quarterback. But no, there's a real live argument that Joe Flacco is a better quarterback right now. that Aaron Rogers. And you know what happens after you say that, Ryan? You remember what Joe Flacco did come in the league three years after Aaron Rogers. That's how old these people are. It's insane. What are we still doing here? Don't any of you guys want to go home and be family men, some form of capacity, whatever it works. Don't you have something else that you should be doing? The last thing I want to point out, the charges beat the Titans, and that is not a good look for

the charges because there's one touchdown win over the terrible Titans. But it feels as though, And maybe I'm the only person who has done this. I have completely, like, forgotten about slash just stop thinking about the charges for whatever reason. Like, once we realize that the chiefs were going to be okay, I stopped giving those guys any thought of consideration whatsoever. There's a good chance they might win their division. I haven't thought about them in a long. All right, guys. This is a rather difficult situation for me with this World Series.

and I hadn't quite, you know, I had to have, I felt like I had to sift through some fillings. And I didn't imagine that I was going to have to sift through some phyllis to watch the World Series, but I did have to sift through some feelings. And I realized that, like, so I grew up as a baseball fan in the era, you know, when we were a proper country and there were two baseball leagues, right? Because right now we have two baseball conferences. They don't feel like leagues anymore. They play so many, I mean, they play so many interlea, um,

Interleague games. There's basically one going on at all times. Everybody uses the designated hitter. There are two conferences. There are not two leads. And so it's interesting. Like I play the Immaculate Grid. And for those of you who don't know what the Immaculate Grid is,

it's a game that you can play every morning. And it'll be different things, three by three square with different things on each axis. And so it'll sometimes be teams. Sometimes it'll be stats or whatever. But what it normally involves you doing is playing a game. where you try to remember a player that has played for two different teams. So did you, somebody who played for the Red Sox and the Philadelphia Phillies?

You could go Kurt Schilling. You could go Pedro Martinez. You know, that's how the game goes or whatever. And I find that it can be really, really tricky for me if you asked me to do this with American League teams because I was a National League fan. And so I never actually paid any attention to the American League. So anyway, I had to try to figure out why exactly it was that I had these great level of reservation and rooting for the Blue Jays in the course of this world series, right?

And I thought about maybe, maybe, maybe there's a little Joel Anderson in us all. And what I mean by that is I noticed that when the Blue Jays are playing against the Mariners, for those of you who don't know, the Mariners are the only team in baseball that has never been to the World Series, even the Rays, even the Rockies, even the Diamondbacks, all of them. They've all been to a World Series. Every team has been there except for the Mariners. And honestly, I found myself hoping that the Blue Jays would beat the Mariners as the League Championship Series just to keep that factoid on the board.

That was it. You realize there's a handful of teams that have never been to a Super Bowl. Okay? Handful. I root for one of them, right? It's a lot more of them. Only one team that never been to the World Series. And I kind of wanted to still have a team that had never been there.

know. It just kind of helped or whatever. So the Blue Jays had not won a World Series since 1993, and I was like, well, maybe the difficulty I'm having been rooting for them in this World Series is because they haven't won a World Series since 1993, and I want to preserve that factoid because I've hated the Dodgers my whole life. And then I realized, no, that wasn't the problem at all. The problem wasn't about 1993. The whole problem was about 1992. And for those of you who don't know about 1992, that is when the Atlanta Braves, two seasons, fresh off of two seasons prior where they had finished in last place, and they had finished in last place for four times and five years,

because of starting one of the most underappreciated runs in team sports history. Anyway, they played a World Series against the Toronto Blue Jays, and they lost that World Series in six games on their home field. Canada was out here acting bad in front of us. and then I remembered why I couldn't get down with that. A friend of mine sent me some video from the little watch party they had for Game 6 at the Scotia Bank Arena. That's where the Raptors play their games.

And I saw them sitting in there. And then she told me how sad they was when they lost. And I was kind of like, that's what you get. And then you know what? That wasn't even fair. You know what I mean? Like they didn't deserve. They didn't deserve.

That's what you get from me. I would say, though, that a watch party for a game six, mm, mm, mm, mm, kind of sort of feels like chance in the fate. Anyway, it got us to a game seven. And by the time the game seven had come around, I was squarely rooting for the Blue Jays. And it really came down to it. I've hated the Dodgers since I was seven.

I only had some beef with the Blue Jays for a week or two, 30 years ago, right? Squarely in the Blue Jay zone. But at the same time, I'm also squarely in the Otani zone, right? I just wanted to see Otani do amazing things. It was very clear. I think Otani got on in the first, he was the lead-off batter, right? And he was also the starting pitcher in Game 7.

Let's stop and take a moment to appreciate the fact that Mr. 50-50 started Game 7 of the World Series. Now, it was not long after he started Game 7 of the World Series that it was clear that somebody else need to be pitching in the World Series because they was out here. They was getting, they was making contact off your man's. And in the second inning, I forget who I was texting with, but I was like, oh, I was texting with a homie tensley. I was like, yeah, man, they can't throw him back out there in the third. That's the one thing I know they cannot do is throw him back out there in the third.

And what is the one thing that they did? They threw him back out there in the third and it went bad. Three run homer had to get him out of there, right? So as this game is going and it is cracking in there. I could not, you don't, at least I don't think of baseball as a sport where you think about how loud the crowd is. That felt like as loud a crowd as I could remember. Like it felt like a college basketball loud crowd. You know what I mean?

Like it was just, I couldn't believe how cracking it was in there. It was loud and it was like only like a dude cloud. It was like on top of you. Yes. Yes. Not like a like a cop like there's like a difference in like the college football sort of, you know, like it's almost cavernous in a way because you get the open air stadium. But in the college baseball, they play basketball, excuse me. And it's loud and they're intense.

And it's just every single out and at bat was it was so intense. And I think the college basketball comp is a good one. Yeah. Like I mean, it was not. But then it was a baseball game. And baseball, a friend of mine brings this up every time. Like, he doesn't watch baseball like that. I'm sure he's listening to this.

And we talk about this all the time that baseball is such a perfectly designed and imagined game. But when you think about it, baseball, it has like built in rocking jock in it. Right? Like when you don't think about it that much, but the truth is, like basketball doesn't have a six or an eight point shot. Baseball has one of those, right? Like, that's what the multi-run home run is that. It's got that built in.

Like, force plays, the idea behind a force play in everything that involves around that. It is amazing that the structure of this game has held up the way it has for so long because it's just so goddamn perfect. And it leads to such moments of not just great suspense, but the ability for everything to change all at one time and the ability for a person who should not be doing something to flip things up to actually do it. You don't really get that many examples in the other sports

of somebody who's not supposed to be the guy to get it done, actually being the guy to get it done, right? There are not a whole lot of Bucky Dents in the other sports. For example, part of that, of course, is nine guys in a lineup. They're not all there to do the exact same thing. So, you know, all of that, right? But there aren't that many guys who aren't supposed to be that dude who wind up being that dude.

Also, baseball has something that the other sports don't really have, which is the slump, right? There aren't that many guys that wind up in situations. We're like, hey, what's going on? Hey, man, I've been dog shit for like a month now. Yeah, I know. It's crazy, right? Yeah, just been. dog shit for a month. That doesn't happen. So how many other sports are there where you have a

situation where somebody has been terrible for a month? Terrible for a month has the ability to change everything, right? So who's been terrible for a month? This cat named Miguel Rojas was at the plate. I'm going to be honest with you, man. I ain't never really heard of that dude until this series got started. Sorry, I'll be there every day. But as he's coming up and, no, he's barely played recently because his bat has been so nonexistent. And what I was thinking about is the whole way the broadcast kept trying to talk about whether or not Otani was going to get another at bat, right? Is Otani going to get back to the plate? Is Otani going to get back to the plate? And then finally he had enough of change. Somebody had gotten a hit that was like, okay,

we're going to get Otani to the plate. That is going to happen. And then I thought about it, and I felt like it was a terrible setup for our man's. Because the way it was shaping up, Otani could get to the plate and at once not only make the last out in the world series, but the way it was shaping up, Ryan, he would have also been the losing pitcher. And I know how we are.

We would have given him no grace for this. Because quietly, Did he have a great postseason or an okay postseason was a great game? Right. That's the kind of question you start asking. Yeah, like, but that's, I mean, it was a fair question to ask. No matter what, this dude Rojas had, I mentioned Bucky Dent. There's Ozzy Smith with the home run in 1985.

You can go through and get a few other people. This guy who's hitting in the nine hole hits the home run that ties the game. And I am personally so glad that I don't root for the Toronto. on Blue Jays because I saw everything or heard everything change right in that moment. The next batter was Otani and he hit what would have been the third out. That would have ended the game if Rojas had, or it may not end of the game. But no, as you know, it would have ended the game. It would have been it.

He just hit a fly ball to left field. My buddy Nick made the point that he can't think of any team that's ever come closer to winning a World Series that did not win the World Series. thinking about that. It made me think about 2002 when Dusty Baker makes the pitching change and lets the pitcher keep the ball.

That my buddy Kirk will never forget as we watch that game together and he is a Giants fan. And up to that point, the Giants had never won a World Series in San Francisco and they chanced the fates and the Angels wound up winning that game. The 1991 Atlanta Braves,

though I guess they were only but so close. It was three, two, after game five, they went back to Minnesota, and Jack Morris threw 10 shutout innings. I mean, what can you do? Right? What can you do? Uh, 2001, the Yankees, it felt like, I mean, I mean, game seven, you're up and Mariano Rivera comes in the game. I think that's as close as any team was ever going to be thinking they won the game. But the game was on the road. This was at the crib and they had, it felt like they'd owned that game. And credit to the Dodgers, for just keep it on chopping wood, right?

Because it's not like they swung this on a grand slam. Little by little, just kept coming back a little more, a little more. And this is why you can't stop scoring runs. There was a three-run homer in the third. They scored one more in the sixth, and then they did not score again. That game, by the way, had 25 combined hits in 11 innings. 25 hits. That's the other part that can make baseball so interesting is that it feels like

everybody should have had a lot more runs. after all those hits that we saw, but you couldn't necessarily string it together. Then we get to the postseason baseball thing. So what we got now is coming out of the pin is not these guys that ain't good enough to be starters. It's these starters that are too tired to pitch a whole game, but they just coming out there.

Like, it's like every time somebody goes to the bullpen, it's like, damn, you've drawn another face card, huh? Like, damn, we just draw on another ace until you get down to Yamamoto who threw 100 pitches the game before. And he's the one that's got to shut this down. right? I don't know, Ryan, if you saw that clip, but right before he faces Vlad Guerrero, where he gives him a tip of the hat, and then it's like,

yeah. He's like, shit. Yeah, he's like, yeah. I saw a few moments for pitchers where you can see it on their face. Like, after it was done, like the Bassett dude, I think for Toronto got to the end of one of those endings, and I've never seen this more clearly. Or maybe I'm older and I watch games differently. Like I'm reading emotions a little differently.

No, you could see the weight on every single pitcher's face in the Xeroon. Yeah, soon as they walked off the mound, I'm just like, man, because I remember, like, when I played baseball in Little League, and I wouldn't ever go be like no big league player, but I was like a, you know, baseball was my thing, right? And I remembered, like, I was a decent pitcher for the levels that I played at. And I remembered how much I loved if you were rolling and you were standing out there and it was all you. And you were in total control of everything. Because I always talked about this, that baseball is like such a great smart kid game, right? You, you know, if you had just taken the time to

figure out everything else, your peers probably had not. You have all these little situations that could only come up at certain times. Yes. And if you watch baseball every day like I did, you knew them all. Right. And the other kids, not so much, right? Like, you know how to play.

The other thing about baseball, especially as a pitcher, was everybody got short arms. So they all had to stay real close to the plate. And all you had to do with a little bit of control is keep hitting them with inside heat. Right. Inside heat was unstoppable. But I remember how it felt. but also remember every now and then you get your shit rocked and nothing ever felt more solitary and more lonely and you to one that's got to pull it together it's the closest thing to being an

individual performer in team sports it's both sides of that being the batter and being the pitcher it's it's me and you and we're doing this for everybody and i remember how it would feel man somebody tag you and you just out there by yourself like as much as i like to joke you can we all do about the unwritten rules? And it's like, what, if you don't like it, you need to just stop them from hitting a home. Well, look, sometimes it don't work that way. All right.

Like, gay, recognize, gang. Just hurry up so we can get this thing to go with, man. Like, I get it because of the solitary nature of it. And never before had I recalled just watching the weight on everybody's face in every single moment. It was so intense and it was so incredible. It felt as close to like, Like the older I get, playoff baseball starts feeling like playoff hockey,

where anything could be like, oh, man, everything swunger. Like soccer is like, oh, my God, it was just going this one direction. And then everything swung the other way right then. It was so incredible and so amazing to watch that on Saturday in a way. It, like, hit me in such a cool way, like, damn, this is what it used to feel like all the time. Like, I don't know what happened. I just fell off from baseball. But every time, it's not like I go back people like, like, man, baseball is born.

Hell no. Baseball's not boring. They just play a bunch of games. But that right there, what you saw on Saturday, I can't think of anything that was messing with that. Man, that was fun. All right, Bo, let's get this some stories from the weekend. It's another Monday.

So another coach has been bought out for eight plus figures. Auburn fired Hugh Freeze after going six and 16 in SEC play. He will be receiving a $15.4 million buyout. Blow your thoughts. Yo, so the real problem with this stuff in college sports is the people got too much of voice. And this is what I mean by that. I want you to stay with me here.

You tell me if you understand where I'll come, the point that I'm making here. Once the word gets out that we're going to fire your coach, or the coach should be fired, or it feels like he's going to get fired, it basically becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, in large part because of the effect it then has on what's more important than anything else,

the getting players thing. Right. Right. Now maybe that's a little different now because it's a little bit more about money and the player mobility is a bit greater. But if everybody says you're going to fire your coach, you wind up having to fire your coach.

Now. Yes, right, especially with early signing day, we got to hurry up and we got to make decisions and we got to do this or whatever. And so you wind up in this place like Auburn where it feels like if you're not going to fire him now, you're going to fire him later. So basically you go ahead and you have to make the move.

But who was Auburn to go to hire in a year where LSU is open? Penn State is open. Who else? Florida. is open. That's the ones we definitely know. Those ones we definitely know. And truthfully,

Auburn is not that much a better job than Virginia Tech. It's better in the sense that you probably get more money, right? The ceiling of what you're going to do at Auburn. At least it used to be a bit higher. But put the expectations of it on the other side. And, I mean, that's a tricky, tricky job. You'll never be, your top rivals are Georgia and Alabama. And you have to play them every year.

Yeah, you play them every year and you'll never be consistently as good as them. Unless they're, unless they're fucking up somehow. That's the only way you're there. So, okay, so Auburn's going to fire Hugh Freeze. The likelihood that they get a better coach than Hugh Freeze, not that high. So, like, I understand why it is that you decide you've got to fire James Franklin. It's been however many years, right?

You know, I get why these decisions get made. But at some point, there aren't enough good coaches to go around and somebody has to look and say to themselves, hey guys maybe we should wait till next year but no no no no no that's not what's going on here so no everybody's going to be out here and they're spending these buyouts and i've been thinking about this with your guys with ls you and what's going on with woodward and the hell that he gets because brian kelly has this giant buyout and it was bad business of woodward to give him the buyout they're also blaming him for the jimbo buyout which isn't entirely his part to this like a little bit of

ross bork yeah biorch extended him right like that's how you wound up there but the truth is That was what the market became on these guys, is these giant buyouts. Woodward at least learned his lesson because it wasn't a lump sum buyout. Right. Like it wound up being with Fisher. But the point of these buyouts is not,

it's to stop you from firing coaches. Like the point of the buyout is everybody basically saying, so we're in this for a while, right? Okay, cool. Let's go. We're in this for a while. But nobody can be in it for a while anymore. Like, the buyout is supposed to make you get some sense about yourself.

Instead, y'all just pass the hat. Pass the hat. See what will happen. In Auburn, which really didn't want to make this move, because they've been looking for coaches, okay, after they got rid of Miles on, by the way, have not been able to get a coach as good as Miles on since they got rid of Mao Zon. But you can't do this every year. But you know what else you can't do every year?

Lose four games in a row. So what all is everybody supposed to be? to do. I don't know. But if I'm any other school, we're not firing, if we're anywhere near this class of people, we're not firing our guy. There's nobody left for us to go get. Jimmy Sexton only has but so many names to refer us to. Trace Armstrong only knows so many people. Right. I mean, yeah, at some point, like, we've talked about this a little bit with the LSU thing. Like at some point, you're going to be hiring the seventh or eighth best candidate. Well, I mean, I know who LSU needs to hire.

There's a no-brainer decision for me right now. You don't need a forever hire. You just need your team to play a little tougher, right? Be a little stronger at the line of scrimmage. You need somebody with a proven track record, perhaps, and you need somebody that'll make the locals feel good. Don't do it. Don't do it.

I know it turned. Who am I thinking about? Do do it. Use the voice. Do it. I want to come back to help LSU. Get back on track. Go tigers.

He ain't got to stay long. If you tell him, Ed, we need you to get this back off the ground, baby. Two, three years. I, if whoever they do bring back, I promise you they will find a job. If they have any sense about it.

and Ed Orgeron will be involved. Hey man. Ed O'Ozoran had practice like the boys club. And O'Donohan had the wayward sons and them single mothers out there participating in drills. Ann O'Ozoran was trying to get back to the community and y'all find him for that. I'm telling you right now, three years of Ed O'Ozoran, you might win another national championship. He couldn't stay, but it didn't mean he can't do it. I'm very, it's very amazing that that has become more widely known and more publicized

than when he was at the head coach, Bull Miss, and took off his shirt and tried to fight everyone in the locker room. In the first meeting with the team. Look, I saw something on the internet where Ed O'Daraj said that when he was at USC, he was recruiting Adrian Peterson. And a big part of why Adrian Peterson wanted to go to. That was his white whale. Yeah, wanted to go to old.

you was because his dad was still in the Bing and he could watch the old U games from jail but he couldn't watch USC games and out at Ogeron hand the guy said that he tried to find a way to get Adrian Peterson's dad transferred to a jail in California I don't think jail works like that but the fact that tells me a lot about the things that Ed O'Jeron has made happen in his day that he thought that you can You can say at Orsoran doesn't sound intelligent. You cannot say that he's not resourceful. No, no, no, no.

I think that's the best way to put it about Ogeron. I don't think O'Rod is unintelligent at all. I have no reason to believe that, but you're right. He is crafty. Yeah, he is. I definitely know. He is if there's a will, there's a way personified. Yes, yes.

Hold on, don't give up so fast. Try harder. Go tigers. All right. Let's shift to music. For the first time in nearly 40 years, there were no rap songs in the Billboard Hot 100. Obviously, this is the pop charts that are, you know,

to kind of define music over the last 60 or so years. But what was your reaction to this? Look, man, there was a time, this is almost about 20 years ago, there was a week where every song in the top 10 had a rap verse. Right. I don't know exactly what it means, though, because I don't fully understand how the charts work. Yeah, right.

Like with streaming versus radio, I don't really understand it. And like TikTok can come in there and interfere. But my question about that is, so what do white folks doing? Because that's what this chart is about by and large. It's historically been. The Hot 100 is like what white folks are listening to. Like that's what you cross over into is like Hot 100, Top 40, all of this stuff. So what are people listening to if it's not rap?

Because it's not as though we got like some new form of music that's come around. What is the thing? or does any of it actually matter anymore? That's the part that struck me when I heard this was just kind of like, yeah, does any of it matter anymore? Do any of these devices that we use to measure this stuff? How much of it actually matters in the year 2025?

Because I look up and a Taylor Swift song is number one. Oh, all these Taylor Swift songs, because now what can happen with streaming is somebody puts out an album and just listen to all the songs on the album and now you got the whole top tip. I will say this, though, man, this Leon Thomas guy, I have heard of him, right? He black. Otherwise, boy, it's super white in here.

Good gracious. I'm looking at the top 10? My goodness. That Morgan Walling guy, he's persistent. Yeah, talk about someone who I just do not understand, but seems to, you know, score a lot of points, if you will. Yeah, but brother, the top 30 is just a bunch of Taylor Swift songs. basically. It's just people listening to Taylor Swift over and over and over again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is what it is. That being said, we didn't just say top 10. We said the top 40.

Damn. Yeah. All right. Let's shift to something a little bit more serious. Trump, the government is still shut down and the Trump administration must make a food stamp decision. Federal court gave the government a choice. It can make full payments by Monday or partial payments by Wednesday. despair low-income Americans from hardship. This is dealing with the SNAP benefits that affects roughly 42 million Americans. Bo, what was your reaction to this news? I mean, the whole thing for me, this has been the great discussion that people have had is I had no idea that many people were on SNAP. It's a shocking amount of children, too. It's a shocking. Well, that would be my expectation as majority children, right? But I am floored by how many people's response to that was it must be fraud as a ported,

as opposed to damn, that's a lot of poor people. Like, this country got about 300 million people. Right. The fact that this is what we're talking about is nuts. Right. That the sheer number of these people is what it is. Now, again, the problem that always comes up in this, and I think this has been a thing that's been interesting to me

with a lot of the moves that the right has made at this point is because the face of poverty in America is black people or people of color, generally speaking, that the actual fact that it's a lot of white people, I don't want to get into proportion of percentages because I don't know that off the top of my head. But when they do this, they're messing with the people that's they people. But they don't think about it because it used to be

that you could just always wield this against poor people thing against black people. But that doesn't really work anymore. White people seem to be a little bit more - It's expensive for everyone to eat. It's expensive for everyone to eat. Yes. Don't get me.

The price game all over the place is so messed up here. But they're not, you got to be careful messing with people but for so long because that bow body, they're belly full, but we hungry. That's real. And those are songs about actual factual revolution. Now, this country is not capable of revolution.

That part is not going to happen. I'm just telling you. Hungry people is a really bad play. Right. It doesn't work out well for anyone. Trust me on that. Right. And finally, the downtown Oklahoma City civil rights sit in that propelled the movement forward

is now memorials where it happened nearly six decades ago, thousands gathered over the weekend to dedicate the national sit-in plaza, tribute to the Oklahoma City youth, and the teacher who helped spark the nation's sit-in movement. Bo, your reaction to this news. All right. Now, those of you who know me know why I have put this in here, is that one of those people involved in that sit-in movement,

the leader on the student side was my mother, Barbara and Posey Jones, who was there for the event. Unfortunately, I was not able to make, because there's some travel hiccups. I bring this up for a couple of reasons. Number one, obviously, congratulations to my mom on this one. We went last year to OU where they gave her, it's her alma mater, but they gave her an honorary degree because of her work in this movement.

And then it is great that the city of Oklahoma City, Mayor David Holt, and with a big helping hand from Sam Presti of Oklahoma City Thunder, for making this happen. My mother is incredibly modest about these things. In fact, didn't really say much about going to this, which is crazy because they built a statue of my mom in the city that she's from, right? And she's kind of like,

another thing to do over the weekend. Yeah, I got her up to get back home type of thing or whatever. But like, it's so amazing and so cool to me to see this and to grow up as an adult and realize that much of my childhood, I did not properly appreciate the magnitude of the work that my mother had done. And as I actually thought more of it, that feeling like the world didn't know necessarily or appreciate the magnitude of the work that she has done. Now, these sit-ins in Oklahoma City, what's important to note is that if you are a student of American history or black history, specifically, you think of the first sit-ins in this country being in Greensboro in 1960.

But no, this is 1958. eight. There was a sit-in in in Wichita, Kansas before the ones in Oklahoma City, but these are the second, and these were led by children who went into this department store and sat at the lunch counter for two days and it endured the hell

that the locals inflicted upon them for two days until the third day they were served. And just like that, they integrated that whole shame, the schools. And then I found out, which I didn't realize, that after my mother went to college, that they took the party to Norman, and they were shutting shit down up there, too. And this is going on, Oklahoma.

I'm sitting where she's 15 years old. Like, this is amazing stuff. And it's so dope for me to get older and to appreciate how dope it was and to see other people appreciate it. But another reason I brought this up that I think is important. Look, Oklahoma is not a progressive place. I say that as a statement of fact, not as an insult. That's something I think that we would all agree upon. But in this time, especially where we're seeing people roll back so many things. look, maybe this monument would not have come about if the idea to get it going did not get started, you know, until later, until like in the midst of this whole Trump situation. But the truth is, we're watching them dial back this stuff all over the place.

And I have to send a shout out to the city of Oklahoma City and the mayor hope for the fact that they did this. Like, that is a Republican mayor. Now, he's a different kind of Republican than a lot of them that you would know. But the decision to do this and to commemorate this in this town in a place where you would and I think that that would necessarily happen. I think it's a really, really, really big deal. Like, I actually had talked to them about giving them some money to help with this

that I never got around to do it. My bad guys, let me know if I could put something on it after the fact. But anyway, it was interesting. I talked to the mayor on DM on Twitter and I said, hey, man, I would like to talk to somebody about help with the project. And he says, well, you know, the guy you should talk to, you probably know who he is, Sam Presti. And so I get in touch with Presti and he's like, hey, you know,

so we take the rookies to. to Memphis to go check out the Civil Rights Museum every year. And he saw something about the Oklahoma City movement. And he says, why did I have to go to Memphis to find something out about this? And so they come back to Oklahoma City, and that's the genesis of this. And then they actually made it happen. And he was there on Saturday and was kind enough to speak to my mother and to, like, send me videos and stuff of her there or whatever.

But I got to get those people to credit for helping to make this happen in a time where people want to do anything but acknowledge these sorts of things. they did that and they did it up. So thank you to them. But again, congratulations to the dopes lady I know. All right, Bo, another great day of voicemails. Let's start you to do the first one. Greetings, Mr. Jones and Mr. Rumley.

My name is Earl and I'm calling from just outside of Philly. I was hoping to get your opinion on a concert I recently attended. Raphael Sadee came to town and my wife and I decided to drop the 400 plus fees to check them out. We figured he's a great musician, a solid songwriter, and between Tony, Tony, Tony, Lucy Pearl, and his solo projects, we figured we were in for some champs. Turns out it was basically just a TED talk slash documentary with a live score. My question is, do you think artists are obligated to go like the OJs and give the people what they want? Or do you think artists have every right to express themselves any way they want, and we just hope we get lucky. As an aside, we saw Stevie

last year and he didn't play ads. Been with you since an interview you did with he who shall not be named. Thank you for all that you do. I'm up on you. Shout out, I'm not, I ain't even sure who we're not naming. I got another one guy we don't name him in this show, but I never interviewed him. I was curious, too. I have to be honest, that was kind of the reason, part of the reason with voicemails,

I'm not, I'm not sure. Maybe he'll leave another voicemail and tell us who he was talking about. I'd heard about Raphael Cedek doing this, by the way, on this show. I had heard that. I don't, I don't know. I mean, this is what I think generally. I would just start a Sturgeon's concert. It was either last year or the year before.

I can't remember which, but I made a very similar point about that show, which is, hey, man, I want a show. Give me the show. So do the artists have the right to express themselves, however? Certainly. But I also think they have an obligation. They know what people paid for. You know what I mean?

Like, if you're going to get a little. little far afield. You need to make that very clear when people pay for their tickets. But you know what it is that people paid for. So yes, the artist has the right to do whatever they want, except once you start selling this to people, once you start selling it to people, it is a product. And you owe it to them to give them their money's work. It's what the last 45 minutes are for. Just run through all your hits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what it is. Like, this is, I watch a lot of Prince concerts on YouTube, but you can tell you. the different points at which he's like trying to make a different point and then it's like hey hey hey

hey buddy let's go crazy let's get nuts okay okay thanks all right here's our next one what's going on volani jones podcast uh mr jones i just want to ask if you any games really stand out to you in any sport or any field even which is just a historic asswoman as a University of Iowa alumni. My freshman year was the 2015 season in which the University of Iowa Hawkeyes met a man named McCaffrey, Christian McCaffrey, and the Rose Bowl against Stanford. And he whooped our ass so bad I learned about football that day. I was like, oh, we thought they were going to give it to him, so they threw it over the top.

again and again and again and again and then they let him running and he scored again and again and again so any historic ass whoopings which taught you about a sporting event all right peace and love thank you yeah i don't know how much i got educated per se but uh january 1st nineteen ninety one Texas played against Miami and the cotton bow. It is the day that I learned that my dad's favorite phrase in the midst of a sporting event is beat them down. 46 to 3 is the final score. That's Miami won that game score of 46 points with over 200 yards of penalty on the opening kickoff, Robert Bailey, not the kick return, or unconscious. It is the most thorough beat down of any sort that I have ever seen, and I've watched the Rodney King video.

never seen anything like this before my life never again never will it is and for those of us who are old enough to remember it we will never forget it i know joel annison's probably favorite football game of all time can't even blame them just just yikes just yikes that's the one there's you can show games with bigger scores like that time joel anderson's alma mater got beat was it like a hundred to seven against georgia thing is 62 to seven 62 to seven there we go Nah, nah, nah. It could have been 100 to 3 the way that Texas got their ass with by Miami in that game. Oh, my goodness.

That's, who. Yeah, gold standard. All right. Here's our last one. Hey, Bo. This is Grant from Orlando. You all talking about Wendy reminded me of my college experience. So I'm a big guy.

I'm in college. I'm 6-2, round 245, 250. So big guy. People always ask me if I played football. I did not. but because I was a pretty Latsday school student. I was always in summer school,

so I was there with the football players and basketball players ever summer. So I was always playing pickup with them because there weren't a lot of folks around, and so if they were playing pickup, it was pretty fun. And obviously the basketball players did not play as much as the football players.

But one time, towards in the summer school, I am on the court, and I'm on a team with a bunch of football players against the basketball players. And now, tensions are high. they hate losing to each other. You know, all football players, send me going to hoop. All basketball players are really disrespected by that.

I'm guarding someone, like, deep on the bench, doesn't play very much. But like I said, I'm a big guy, so I'm in the post, and my man gets beat on a pick-and-roll. So I have to switch on to the big man. And I switch on the Festus Azale, who is every bit of 7-1, 260, 270, as we've seen in the league, you know, when he won with the Warriors. So I get switched on to Festus. It's game point on 6-2. He's 7-1.

The Vandy Red Center is looking like a place I don't want to be anymore. So I get switched on the block and I literally walk off the court and let him dunk that because I'm not getting dunked on. That's my basketball story about, you know, kind of you're describing how playing folks were playing with Wemby. So thanks, Beau. Love the show. I love that.

He's like, I'm not even going to try. I don't see the point. I don't see the point. Ain't no switches. That's the moral of that story. Ain't no switches. That is a discretion is the better part of valor. Whatever that expression is.

Yeah. There's nothing good that could come from this whatsoever. Hell no. Oh my God. I've never heard of somebody catching the switch. It just being like, all right, I'm going down on the other end. You're ready for offense, right? Save this energy for something a bit more worthwhile.

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