The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Bills stun Ravens, Packers beat Lions, Rodgers balls out vs. Jets | 09.08
Episode Date: September 8, 2025Bomani Jones reacts to a jam-packed week 1 of NFL action. First, he discusses the wild win for the Buffalo Bills, and why Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry should not be blamed for the improbable loss.... Later, he discusses the Kansas City Chiefs losing to the Los Angeles Chargers and why time might be running out on the Chiefs Dynasty. He wraps up the show by breaking down the Lions loss to the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers first win as a Pittsburgh Steeler, and much much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original.
My name is Beaumani Jones.
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You know what time it is.
NFL football is back.
Baby, look, understand.
I am one of these people that's a little bit disheartened about how this country
has just become football all the time.
It's like it's the only sport that we care about.
I think you guys look like fucking morons.
When y'all be sitting around watching that fake football, that preseason football, right?
And, you know, you be betting on it.
You watch the pro ball.
I think that's crazy.
Week one, man, I went over to my buddy Nick's house.
He got like five, six games on.
We over there posted up eating wangs.
Baby, it was a great time.
I have to say, I was kind of thrilled that we got this football back, right?
I don't even necessarily know what it is that you do with the football.
You know, Nick, you might need to pull up one day.
Oh, I mean, I've seen, I've been to football at Nick's house.
He is, he's locked in for 10 hours.
He's not moving.
He's locked in for 10 hours.
And I have to tell you, this is the first time.
It was so much going on.
Like, normally I can find the game I care about lock in and go from there, right?
Like, I like watching football with Nick, one, because it makes it better for coming on this show because he knows a zillion things.
We're having conversation.
Like, we're giving ourselves things to think about.
Yeah, it's basically it, right?
Like, it's a really cool thing to be able to go back and forth.
with him about what's going on because he knows so much at all times because, you know,
he'd be putting money on stuff. It takes you to a different place in terms of watching the game.
But there were actually enough interesting games early that it was difficult. But the game
that we got to, obviously, it was all a buildup for Ravens and Bills on Sunday night. Now,
Ravens and Bills for the last few years, a game like that, it's been
the consolation bracket, right?
And not really in a bad way,
but it's been the consolation bracket, right?
Like, it's kind of who go finish second
to Usain boat in the 100 meter final
at the Olympics.
That's just what it's been.
It's been the Chiefs and then everybody else.
Mahomes pulling up to the three-point contest
like, wary bird.
Yeah, who's been in the second place?
Who wants to come in second?
Right.
Mahomes throwing some pass behind his back over his shoulder
than just walking out, pointing his finger to the sky,
because you know that thing is going in.
That's exactly what it's been for these years.
Last night was different.
And we'll talk about part of why it was different coming up in a little bit,
but this matchup does not feel like the consolation bracket anymore, right?
Like this feels like a different kind of battle.
This is every year feels like the best chance for whatever team is not the chiefs.
Now, obviously, the Ravens having that chance to beat the Chiefs at home in 2023, January
2024, and they did not win it.
That one really felt like their best chance and that they just gave it up.
Like they had the game at the crib, which up to that point, Patrick Mahomes ain't playing
no games on the road before that season, right?
They had the game at the crib.
And it wasn't that same year?
Didn't Buffalo have them at the, have Kansas City at the crib?
Brian and then they lost that one?
Yeah, because that was the, that was the year they went 11-6 when the, you know,
that's right.
The receivers were all double agents.
Right.
And so he went to everybody's house and was just like, not yet, fellas.
Not yet.
Like, y'all think this y'all's chance.
This isn't y'all's chance.
And then they walked through.
Okay.
This is not a game I don't feel like where you come out of it talking about one quarterback
one and one quarterback loss.
Now, obviously, Josh Allen in that 16-point run, they put on at the end.
was just unreal.
Just that big old
I just don't know.
I'm trying not to use curse words, but that's all it.
The problem would try to describe that guy's Allen.
That big MFer.
Is that what you're just,
that's some form of that, right?
It's not even just that it's cuss words.
It's the big dollar ones that you can't.
But that's all you can do with a dude
that big throwing the ball like that.
And he was putting it right on the dot for this cat's man.
Like it was it.
And in a, we got to.
get it right now. This is our chance. This is all we got. And they, I mean, they should not have
won that game. Baltimore lost it, but they won it. Like, like the drives that they were running,
the, Baltimore's defense is going to have to be a little something different, obviously, than it was.
And honestly, Buffalo's defense is also going to need to be a little something different than it
was. But that was the big fella, you know what he is? Here's what he is, right? He's a big old
galute.
That's a big galute.
The problem is when he talks, he doesn't sound stupid.
Like you think of a galute is kind of big and stupid.
But he is, that's what we need to start college guys out of because he doesn't really have a nickname yet, right?
No.
What if we just say the big galute?
What's the last time we called?
I didn't know they were still making galutes.
Well, no, no, they're clearly still making them.
We just began to identify them as something else.
You're like, oh, I didn't know they made Dotson's anymore.
No, they're called Nissons now.
Like, that's all that is.
Got it.
The big glute was moving down the field and making that happen.
Look, Baltimore had a game.
Well, Lamar Jackson average 11 yards in attempt through two touchdowns,
ran for 70 yards and another touchdown.
Derek Henry ran for 170 yards.
Your team ran for 240 yards and your quarterback played well.
and you stop the run
and you lost.
Hey guys,
there's really only one place
for you to look under those circumstances
and that place is the dude with the headphones on.
Have a factoid here
that Ryan has put in our document for you guys to know.
John Harbaugh in his coaching career
has blown 17 second half double-digit leads.
17, that is the moats by any coach since at least 1991,
because they ain't been counted.
But for so long.
Now, part of that, of course, is a function of the fact
that John Harbaugh has been coaching literally since the Bush administration.
The second Bush, just, you know, don't you think would be an unfair.
But he'd been out there since the Bush administration.
Like, some of y'all don't even want to think about what it was like when he was the coach
because they was putting you out of your house.
Was that too far?
That, did I take it into tragedy at that moment?
Okay, Ryan ain't even jumping in and say nothing about it.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
I was thinking about what my wife was like when John Harbaugh started coaching.
Yeah, I'm just saying, you was driving down the street and being like,
damn, they're not going to finish building that house?
They just go stop in the middle, huh?
Shit. Okay.
But he's been there for a long time.
But at the same time, I do think he has been shielded by the presence of Lamar Jackson
in times and ways that very often when a team like this has not gotten to the Super Bowl
over this time period and they have the quarterback, you get a new coach.
That by now ordinarily would have happened.
We are now in year eight of the Lamar Jackson,
experience. Keeping in mind, they was going to cut bait with Harbaugh in 2018 until Lamar
Jackson came in and saved his job, right? They looked tight at the end of that. Now, do I think
you can blame Harbaugh for, you know, Hall of Fame running back, Derek Henry, fumbling when he
did? No, I don't think that you can put that on the coach. By the way, speaking of Derek
Henry. I know you've probably seen this number from somebody else. I know you may have seen
somebody else make this point. But Derek Henry last season had the sneakiest all-time great
season that I think an NFL player has ever had because Seqaun Barclay had all those yards.
Did you know Derek Henry ran for 1,900 yards last year? I did not. Last night, he got into
the top five all-time rushing touchdowns. Yes. And a stat that was also going around is
he still hasn't rushed for more yards than he did in high school.
Like, I've seen that number going around because he has like 12,000 high school rushing yards in.
Hey, man, wasn't nobody stealing a check quite like Derek Henry's high school coach.
They wouldn't watching no film.
They wouldn't cook it up.
No, what are we going to do today?
I don't know, guys.
What do you think?
Maybe we could just give the ball to Derek again.
He's sneaky become like the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar of running backs.
Yes.
And like a dominant high school college and now pro into a sec-like he's 40 in running back years but still looks 22.
Well, that's what I was going to say that I think is so crazy is that I think it is perfectly reasonable that this year is a Sequin Barkley regression year, right?
Like you run for 2,000 yards, you take all the carries that it takes.
Barclay is now, I want to say going into year eight or something like that.
Yeah, he's the same draft as Lamar.
Yeah, yeah, like that's about the time that you have a regression for running by like
it's unreasonable to expect him.
And by the way, in week one, it looked like the sort of thing that was possible.
Hey, Derek Henry is a lot older than him and just ran for 1900 yards on six yards a carry
and then just came out here and started the season with 170 yards.
like all that hyperbaric chamber stuff and everything else he's doing,
apparently it's worth the money.
But guys, he gave up the booty at the end of that game,
much like Mark Andrews,
he gave up the booty.
And the last time they played that game in Buffalo,
where this stops being a discussion about the quarterback
and really does become a discussion about,
why does your whole team seem to get tight?
Or is it your whole team?
Like, is that a fair characterization?
The quarterback has certainly looked to be tight.
over time, and we have certainly chastised him and giving him the hell that you deserve when
you are a guy with as many receipts and the stripes that Lamar Jackson has and you come out there
and you look tight. But after a certain point, man, and it's everybody and you put up 40 points
on the road and you're up and you lose, this goes back to the coach. Like to me, if I'm running
that franchise, this is the make or break year for Harbaugh. And look, he's. He's, he's a make or break year for Harbaugh.
And look, he's been there forever, man. Sometimes it's just time for you to go. It happens.
It's, I can't say that the team doesn't respond to him because they seem to, right?
They made the changes with the offense. As you've asked Lamar to step up and to become a better
passer, more sneaky stats. Lamar Jackson last year had 41 touchdowns, four interceptions,
and ran for over 900 yards. I'm sorry. We're going to answer the questions about everybody,
else before we start putting it back on that guy. Even if, like I say, and it's an important point,
Lamar Jackson is not the reason that the Ravens lost that game, but he is not the reason why they
won that game. The other guy, he is the reason his guy has won the game, right? And if they lost,
he wouldn't have been the reason because he also had an incredible game. Like, I find it to be so
much more interesting, at least for the type of job that I have, to be able to come off of a game like
that. And what we don't have to do is trying to find a way to blame or chastise the two excellent
quarterbacks who played excellently. Like, we don't have to do that. I will say this, though,
Ryan, Buffalo going to need to figure out how to run the ball. Like the, we're just going to jump
all Josh Allen's back and he's going to do everything. I will say this for the Ravens. It took
them a while to build it up, but it never felt like that was their playing on purpose. These last
couple years, it felt like this is what Buffalo has just decided they're going to do.
Yeah, I mean, like, they've found a way to make him a more effective runner, but their receivers
still look like non-playable characters. James Cook is good, not great. I mean, at least none of them
are really hit, but the Ravens have put a lot of talent into a lot of draft capital into that
receiver position. And then, of course, they go out and get Derek Henry last year. Yeah, I will say
this, though, they put a lot of capital into that, but if you run through this box score,
if there's something that needs to worry you about them, is A-Flowers looks like
the guy that they said he was going to be when he got drafted, right?
He looked like that.
But they are looking for what's left of DeAndre Hopkins to get it done.
Two catches for 35 yards.
Rashad Bateman.
So I don't know if you ever listened back in a day with me and Shannon did the radio show
and everybody's got that guy.
Like one of them for me was Kristen Michael,
but the defining one for me was Darren McFadden,
but this is the year that he puts it all together.
That checks out.
Yes, Rashad Bateman.
He is a guy that I promise this is going to be the year he puts it all together.
Kyle Pitts is mine.
Gosh, I had that feeling while I was watching snippets in that game.
It's like it started looking like it might be, right?
It started looking like it might be.
Mark Andrews didn't give them anything in this game.
So they have made the capital investments.
They signed O'Dell Beckham a couple years ago.
But, you know, what was left of O'Dell Becker.
They've tried.
Flowers seems to be the one that has panned out.
but somebody's going to have to give it because we're at this point now where their quarterback
is one of the greatest quarterbacks who has ever played. He is a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Like Josh Allen is still Hall of Fame trajectory. Lamar Jackson with the receipts that he's got
his Hall of Fame. Josh Allen, I think, is going to be there. Right. Yeah. But like, he's one MVP
or one Super Bowl appearance away from being a lock. Yes. Like, like this is where they,
this is where they are. The dude in the cap is going to need to figure out how to get this done.
because if he doesn't, they're going to look like they're squandering this.
And Lamar is more than a runner.
And I find most impressive about him as runner is that he takes very good care of himself.
Right.
Like, he's not running like Cam Newton used to run where Cam Newton is running like a fullback.
Like, it's not that.
However, no, what Morris has figured out, like, he gets out of bounds, he gets down.
Yes.
You never really see him take a contact injury.
He gets sick all the time.
Yes.
He has the worst immune system of all time.
But he's never, you never see him like almost carted off.
I just think we need to keep in mind that his primary football advisor at every turn has been his mama.
That's not a bad thing.
I'm just saying that if your mama is giving you the most football advice, you're going to be getting out of bounds and you're going to be sliding.
You know what I mean?
Let me tell you what your mama don't give a damn about no extra yard, not with her baby.
she might be thinking that Derek Hedery need to go out there and get an extra yard or
Mark Ingram needed to get an extra yard but you need to get your black ass down, right?
But he doesn't take those big hits as a runner. However, we saw this specifically with
Cam Newton. This is the greatest example. He had the career arc of a running back because of all the
miles that he had. You want to get this dumb to do it like Lamar. This is really the time because we
don't have a great answer for how long this is going to go.
It is not, in all likelihood, this is not going to be a 17 or 18 year career.
And that's not a slight or an insult to him.
That's just not how it works with guys like this.
If you decide you're going to do this and play this type of quarterback, you're not going
to have a 20 year.
It's not going to be that.
Just not.
And when the athleticism fades for him, he'll still be able to pass, but it's going
to completely change the dynamics of how he plays.
This is the window to get this done, all right?
Either John Harbaugh gets it done or John Harbaugh.
going to be sitting behind a desk as the new Jimmy Johnson.
Just you watch.
All right.
Now, I had mentioned and made the point that that game did not feel so much like the
consolation bracket between the bills and the Ravens as it had before.
And the reason for that is very simple.
The Chiefs did not feel like champions in that game that they played in Brazil
against the charges.
They did not.
I think big takeaway from that game, though, is there is no.
quarterback whisperer quite like Jim Haribaw now is there. I don't know why. I don't know how,
but there is not. And when Justin Herbert is at the peak of his powers, I mean, when things are
working for him and he's hitting those throws and he has time, I get why the nerds love him so much.
I mean, he's the king of the eye test, right? He is, like I made a point once that John Elway is the
best eye test quarterback in NFL history.
I still believe that to be true.
And people were like, well, what about Aaron Rogers?
Aaron Rogers has an eye test arm, right?
But getting off the bus, just seeing the dude in pants, ready to go play.
And you could be like, well, people would hit me back with that.
And they're like, well, John Elway is 6.3, 220 or whatever.
Well, Aaron Rogers is 622 or whatever.
Is it that big a difference?
Look, I don't make the rules, dog.
This isn't.
Aaron Rogers didn't get drafted to play baseball.
Aaron Rogers guy, let me tell you,
no matter how much of a jerk people thought
Aaron Rogers was, that same version
of John Elway, whom people thought was a jerk
wasn't nobody letting that slide to know number 25.
You just weren't.
John Elway wasn't sitting behind, wasn't sitting for two years.
Wasn't happening, man.
But if you, like, that was the guy, big, strong,
he had, like, perfect physical mechanics in the arm
and he could run in all of those things.
Justin Herbert fits very similar characteristics.
In fact, his eye test problem is that he's a little too much of something,
which is too tall because he's about 6.6.
And generally terrible haircuts.
Like, you know, there's that.
But you get it.
He's athletic.
He's got that arm.
Somebody told me a story when that draft was coming up.
And because that was the draft with a Tua went in that draft.
It was a Joe Burrow, Tua, and Justin Herbert.
Yeah, when that was three of the top six.
The 2020 draft, right?
And somebody said about the charges, they were like,
and they talked to somebody in the organization,
they're like, all right, so we're going to take a black dude this year.
Like, for whatever reason, they had concluded,
they were going to take a black dude.
And somebody was like, well, what about Herbert?
They were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, close enough.
That was what was relayed to me about what they were doing with that team.
But that was your tie rod was the starter.
That's right.
So they had clearly committed organizationally.
They did.
So that's like, that was.
Of course, this story may not have been a real relay because they had a black coach at the time.
Like when Hugh Jackson was the coach, people were assuming that they were just going to get a black coach.
And I was like, you don't know any black quarterback.
I'm like, you don't know anything about Hugh Jackson, who's like building for granted quarterback is Carson Palmer.
Right.
Like you guys have this wrong.
But I just say all that to say, that's the athleticism that Justin Herbert is giving you.
He looks and can be whatever quarterback you want to be.
The big reason why quarterback whisperer Jim Harbaugh took that job was because of Justin Herbert.
And when you think about it, Jim Harbaugh is the guy who drafted Colin Kaepernick,
who was a very good football player for a decent period of time.
And they are very physically similar.
Colin, of course, is just a different level of runner.
But when you think about it, kind of tall, you know, tall, spindly in some ways,
like he's that guy.
And he looked like that guy in that game against the Chiefs.
And the Chiefs, after y'all told us that it was going to be different,
looked a lot like the Chiefs of last year,
where it's Patrick Mahomes
throwing to some dudes
that they went to picked up
in front of the Home Depot.
Like, y'all do anything today?
You want some work?
All right, come on down there.
Xavier Worthy, who,
if you're going to be a football player
that weigh like 20 pounds less than Beaumonti Jones,
you've got to be able to make them kicks
from 60 yards.
You understand what I'm saying?
That dude got hurt
because he ran into his man's.
That's all that happened.
He's just not that big.
Right. And we have seen kind of smaller guys who can make it happen that way, but he's not, he's not a bowling ball type at his size. He's just really, really fast and a good football player, but he's just not that big.
Rishie Rice is now out on suspension. Travis Kelsey, he's not young.
Older than me. Okay, there we go. I couldn't quite remember. Was he 36 now?
Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, I shouldn't say.
it that way. But yes, he's an old man. Like, to be out here still playing the football, he is an old man.
Still playing the football in a three-point stance. Yeah. That's a great point. They, they,
they don't have a great, Kareem Hunt, by the way, he's a, he's still in the league all-star.
They're still giving him the ball. They, you know, they tried to get a running back with Edwards had
lair the other day. You know who their leading Russia was in this game on Friday night?
Patrick Mahomes.
Patrick Mahomes. By, by a wide.
margin, I will note.
Hollywood Brown had a catch for 49 yards
and the rest of the catch is nine for 50.
Like this is
not encouraging what they're
breaking out here in a very tough division.
And the thing that they didn't look like
last year and the year prior is
their defense looked really bad.
They did. And their defense has looked
excellent at points. Now look,
maybe what we're talking about,
out here is the chargers are really good and the chargers may have the best coach in that
division. I think we would all agree at this point that that is the best coached division in the
history of coaching in divisions, right? The only guy that hasn't won a Super Bowl is Jim Harbaugh.
That's it. My, might legitimately have, could possibly have four coaching hallfambers.
I think that when all is said and done, they will all go in.
into the Hall of Fame.
Andy Reed, I think, is a no-brainer.
I think Sean Payton, hey, man,
you win a Super Bowl with the Saints.
That's like when LeBron James won that championship in Cleveland.
I understand why he thinks that count for like four or five, you know?
Like, that's against all laws, man.
Right fast, I'm going to just say this.
They had a game on Sunday between the Saints and the Cardinals,
and I was looking in the crowd and buddy.
I can't imagine caring enough about the Saints, the Cardinals,
or football to pay money for that.
that.
Kyle Murray, Spencer Rattler doesn't
get your butt in the seat?
Hey, Kyle Murray looked pretty good in that game.
I would have to say, I will say this for Spencer Rattler.
And I don't want to make this about me,
but I think he'll understand where I'm coming from.
I feel bad for Spencer Rattler in the sense
that he is still having it held against him
the way that people perceived his behavior
in a docu series that was done when he was in high school.
And I just think the idea of holding against,
I don't think it's fair.
to hold it against anybody what they were in high school
when they're a sophomore in college.
Like you go to college, you get to start over.
You get to be a whole new person.
I was at the Super Bowl this year.
And Spencer Rattler, we were at some party.
I think it may have been the New Heights party.
And we were there.
And he just stopped and saw me.
It was like, hey, Beaumonti Jones, Spencer Rattler,
how are you?
And he took his hand out.
And the thing that struck me about that, Ryan,
is if there's anybody that don't need to introduce himself,
it's Spencer Rattler.
You know what I?
He's been, especially to someone like,
who follows recruiting.
He's been in your life for nearly,
because he was a big, big time recruit.
He was that guy.
I mean, he's the number one guy, right?
But the thing for me was, I was like,
huh, you don't need to introduce yourself to somebody who were.
I actually took that as,
that's not the guy from the docu series.
This is a lovely humility,
which also for me was,
I'm an old man because I'm like,
wow, he seemed like such a nice young man.
I now have these thoughts when I see people.
And it has nothing to do with what it is that we were talking about.
But for the chiefs,
Here's what's crazy about the standard that the chiefs have gotten to.
They have won their division nine times in a row, right?
Keeping in mind that this takes it back to the Alex Smith days.
They've won the division nine times in a row.
I believe the only road playoff games, Mahomes has played,
was that year where they had to go to Buffalo and they had to go to Baltimore, right?
Like that's it for them going to play role playoff games.
This run has been so unreal.
If they fall down to winning a wild card or simply winning,
that division but not getting the number one seed, it's going to feel like the wheels are coming
off, right? Which makes it difficult for me to have a really great grasp on how good they are
at a given point in time. Because the standard that they're held against is truly unlike any
standard that I can think of, right? It's seven straight AFC championship games. The Patriots did this.
Right. Right. Like, they're the only team that I can think of in that way. Um,
But the thing about the Patriots was,
even when the years were coming,
the Patriots weren't great.
We only had one time
when we thought it was over for the Patriots.
And it was 2014.
Against the Chiefs.
And they had that game against the Chiefs,
and they got their doors blowing off.
And I'll never forget, man.
Me and Dan Lebitard set up there on television,
and we buried them.
We were like, this is what it looks like,
when it all falls apart.
Yada, yada, yada, da da da, da da, da da, da, da.
Four months later,
Malcolm Butler made the interception of the goal line
and they won the Super Bowl again.
And it was just like, oh, never mind.
It's kind of like how we said Steph Curry was better than LeBron.
And then they took the 3-1 lead.
And we didn't start saying anybody was better than LeBron.
After that, like we was petrified of going in that way.
That's what it was with the Patriots.
But with the Chiefs, they don't look like those guys, man.
They don't look like it.
And Mahon, I don't know how much of this is coaching.
I don't know how much of this is the quarterback.
But as Brady declined, and the decline was obvious.
And in 2014, if you were watching, like he did not look like the same guy.
He somehow got it back together.
But he didn't look like that guy at the time.
But I never felt like Tom Brady was reduced to nickel and diming all the time, like truly to get it done.
Although I guess at the end, it felt like that.
But the part that's striking me about this is how are you guys still nickel and
diamond it with the greatest quarterback I've ever seen. And you're never going to convince me
it's because he can't do it. Because when he did have to dial it up, man, he made some big,
deep throws, right? Like I think it was in Hollywood Brown, that big one he made rolling right
flush out of the pocket with Khalil Mack was on his key shirt and he got it done. It's not like
we're seeing flashes. He hasn't gotten worse. But they have and they got to figure this out real soon.
because the truth is, as much as I say, you know, if they just get to be a wild card,
we'll think the sky is falling.
Missing the playoffs is totally on the board.
And one thing that's going to be tough for them this year, while we talk about the coaching,
I don't know how many of you watched parts of this game or saw any of it.
And I don't blame you if you did not.
The Raiders are not going to be good because I think their defense is not going to be good.
But Gino was dealing.
Gino with Chip Kelly?
I just say that to say.
The wins that you felt like you could count against the Raiders,
23 notwithstanding Chiefs fans,
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This is going to be a tough goal for them.
And that is why Ravens Bills
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doesn't feel like it right now.
That felt like a battle between the two teams
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All right, Bo, let's get to some other action that happened in NFL week one.
Tough loss for your lions.
They go down 27 to 13 to the Packers.
Golf sacked four times, but that's your team.
Bo, what happened?
We got a problem.
We have a very big problem.
And the very big problem is, what was the center's name?
Ragnow?
Frank Ragnow.
The one to retired?
Go on to retired.
Yeah.
could somebody go to his house and get him to bring his ass back
because the interior blocking was abysmal.
Look, look, Michael Parsons was given Sewell a bit of the work.
And he only played half.
He played not even half of snaps.
Yeah, yeah.
Like that was a thing, right?
And the Packers might be the best team in the NFC.
Like either Michael Parsons or Rashon Gary is your other guy coming off the edge, right?
Like there's a thing going on.
And obviously offensively they look good.
But I thought the Lions defensively,
I felt okay about that, right?
Like I do think a big problem for the Lions last year was pass rush.
And there wasn't enough of that.
They did a great job stopping the run, though.
Like they decided they were going to stop Josh Jacobs and they did that.
And it wasn't like the Packers were out there putting up video game number, right?
Like that's not what happened.
But what did happen to me for the Lions is they can't run because they can't get a push up the middle.
and if that's going to be the case all year long, they're cooked.
Like, it isn't going to be about Ben Johnson.
This ain't going to be about Aaron Glenn.
This ain't going to be about none of that.
You've got to get that push because what they have at quarterback is the rich man's
Kurt Coussons.
And what I mean by that is if everything is good around Kurt Cousins,
I think it was Scott McLuhan used to be the GM at Washington,
made this point.
If everything's good around, everything's great around Kurt Cousins,
you can win some things.
And I think what we saw by the end of Kurt Cousin's time in Minnesota was,
if everything's great around him,
you can get to the division around of the playoffs.
There's a reason the Shanahan disciples
that Kirk Cousins their guy.
That is correct.
For 10 plus years now.
Right, but you can only give it so far.
With Jared Gough,
you make everything great around him
and you can at least get to a Super Bowl.
I've seen it happen, right?
You can probably win a Super Bowl
if you did everything great around him.
That interior offensive line situation
is the opposite of great.
right? And so if they can't solidify that run game that was such a big deal for them last year,
no, no, no, no, no. You don't have a quarterback who can overcome. That's not the kind of guy that
you got. And you've got a mentality of a team that requires you to hit people in the mouth.
Y'all going to need to start hitting some people in the mouth. Otherwise, they're going to miss the
playoffs. And it's going to really stink because I'm actually invested in this. Like I have moments
like when Brian Branch, they called that Brian Branch made that interception and took it back to
house and then they called those two penalties.
Dude, the mood swing I had from
when he got in to seeing
all the flags.
This is not...
That's how you know they got you.
That was exactly how.
Look, I fully knew they got me when
J-mo threw that goddamn interception
last year during the playoffs.
They just locked him up too. He's going to be
in your life for a couple more years.
Whose idea was that? You can't give him no
money up front?
What are you talking about?
You got it.
Some people have to be on one-year deals forever.
For a life.
For a life.
I think the thing that I think it's interesting to me that you pointed out is you talked
about the identity of that team.
And Dan Campbell is on that marshal on which run through a MF's face.
Yes.
That is his whole philosophy of coaching.
And again, when you're not, when you're struggling center guard guard,
that's not going to be as much of an option.
Bad news, man.
It's bad news.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous.
I'm really, really nervous.
All right.
Hold on, but at least there's the Bears.
Yeah, next week you got the Bears in Ben Johnson coming back.
That schedule, though, we're going to test the resolve of this team.
Because if you go look at that, they got like the Bears and the Browns.
I think they got the Bears, the Browns, and the Giants.
And then other than that, it's like Vikings, Ravens, Chiefs.
Yeah, they have, I think they have the AFCS, the, the ASEWS,
and, you know, obviously their own division,
which might be the toughest in football.
Well, they have their own division.
Oh, they got to play the bucks.
So here's what we're looking at now,
just so you know for my guys.
Bears, at the Ravens, Browns, at the Bengals.
Okay, you know, okay.
At the Chiefs, Bucks at home, Vikings at home,
at the commandos, at the lions.
I think that's when they get, no, the by's not then.
Home for the Giants.
Thanksgiving against the Packers.
Yeah, the buy is after the bucks.
I'm sorry. Can we talk about something else?
All right.
Speaking of people making new destinations, Aaron Rogers, playing for his new team, he threw
for four touchdowns and a 34, 32 win against the Jets.
After the game, he took a bit of a victory lap.
Let's take a question.
You spoke about the meeting with Aaron Glenn on McAfee a few months ago.
Beating him, is there significance in that since he basically told you to your face
that he didn't think you were right for that team?
Yes, that's what he did.
So there's significance in beating him for you?
I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets.
Hey man, we all acknowledge that Aaron Rogers is a bit of a grump.
Can't blame him for that one at all.
They did make him fly across the country to fire him.
To break him up with him.
That did happen.
They made him get on the plane and shit at him.
They could have easily got on the plane to go to his house.
the shit can't him. No, they brought him in and they canned him. And look, they both looked to be
better off without each other. I felt like that it may have been the best Justin Fields game I had
ever seen. Like, he looked more like a poised, composed, ready to do it quarterback than I think
that I had seen him look in his time. They're just waiting, they're waiting into his strengths.
It looks like he's playing at Ohio State. But look, the best era, the best version of Justin
Fields that we had seen is the one that ran for 1,200 yards. Okay. Yes, he had the two Russian
touchdowns, whatever. 16 for 22,
218 yards of touchdown, no picks. That's 10 yards
in attempt. And it looked different.
Like this was, I watched that game with my man, Josh.
He is a Jets fan. And I have been watching Jets games
intermittently with him for the last nine years. And I've never
seen him this happy about the Jets. And that was in a loss.
Right. Now, of course, that fumble on that kickoff felt
very familiar to him. Like, that's, that's the world he
resides in. That was Jetsy. That was, that was, that was,
That was real Jetsy.
Like Ryan, that reminds me.
How long have you been living here?
I think we moved here the same year because it was, so 28 or nine years now.
Oh, yeah, so this is football season nine for you.
There are two football teams in this city.
It is year nine, and we've seen one good football season from the local teams.
Yeah.
That year the Giants won a playoff game.
With Daniel Jones.
But Daniel Jones.
Yes.
Like, that is, by the way, somebody looks good.
Yeah.
Somebody looked pretty good on a subject.
There's a little good in a new spot.
Yeah, but he all, he looked good in part because the other team looked.
bad. They look like they was going to
fire. They coached week one. But anyway,
Aaron Rogers was dealing
Jack. Like there were moments where
it still looked like this new version of Aaron Rogers,
but that was four touchdown passes
and he looked good.
Like, if he can look anything
like that for the rest of the year, like maybe
this is his last hurrah.
And ain't no telling what, what's the word I'm looking for?
Homeopathic remedies that
he might have come across in the offseason.
If he's going to look like that
and we got on the Steelers, like you,
The best quarterback you could give was Aaron Rogers.
This is what you were playing for.
Okay.
Hey, if he looks like that, they go win a playoff game for the first time since,
yeah, they ain't won a playoff game since Obama.
Yeah, it's been a long time.
And you assume Mike Tomlin's not going to be giving up 32 points every weekend and week out.
No, no.
But hey, hey, man, that's them New York Jets, baby.
Like, we're going to, we'll see what it looks like at the end of the year.
But hey, man, AG.
and I'm saying is my man, H-town, Northside, no less.
If Eric Lynn got the Jets looking like this, hey, man, shoot, he keeps that going.
Fireman Air might even vote for Zoron.
Let me tell you, if there's anything that I can say with confidence about Fireman Ed,
he does not live in the five burrows.
He's not living in the five burrows.
I assure you of that.
Even if he did, even if he somehow, you know, trekked from Staten Island to
That's exactly what I was about to say.
If he is in one of the five boroughs,
I know exactly which one it is.
I promise you he was not casting a vote for Big Z.
No.
All right.
Anyway, last story here.
You alluded to this.
The dolphins got blown out by Daniel Jones on the Colts.
They lost 33 to 8.
Daniel Jones, the Colts became the first team since 1977 to score on every possession,
according to ESPN research,
Tyreek Hill,
noticeably upset on the sideline.
Bo, your thoughts.
One, I don't know how long
they can allow him to stay on that team.
Like, you and I were just talking about
the unceremonious end for Howard Stern.
Yeah.
And the truth is, if you are serious,
you people who have never worked in radio
don't quite get this.
But this is the truth, bad.
If you are serious
and you decide that you're not going to bring Howard Stern back,
it can't be no farewell show.
No.
You're going to hate that show.
That farewell show is not going to be pleasant.
It doesn't matter how many people buy serious to listen to that farewell show.
It's not going to be worth it.
Broke people act a fool on their last radio show.
Let alone a man with hundreds of millions of dollars.
You just can't let some people stick around while they grumpy.
Right?
This is just the nature of the business.
Tyreek Hill, who they did not make the captain, everybody seems out on him.
Y'all had to get rid of him.
like bringing him back is a little bit crazy given what the circumstances are.
And it's week one, he's on the sideline looking like this.
They've gotten beat by 25 points three times in the four years that McDaniel has been there.
I think most of us like him.
We would like to see it go well for him.
But that experiment seems to have run out of road.
You know, there's nothing wrong with being the offensive coordinator for the 49ers of the lines next year.
That is correct.
Now, the problem, of course, here is some of this is Mike McDaniel, but his wagon has been hitched to a guy that I feel very confident saying, it just ain't got it. And that's too. Like, I just don't. If everything, with him, if everything is going right, he can do it is not simply about the surrounding talent. It's about like the execution. If everything is running on time, he's got this for you. Right?
otherwise, not so much.
And that's before we talk about, you know,
maybe I hear trying to kill him.
Like we haven't, like,
like we haven't even gotten to that point,
but that was, that was a staggeringly embarrassing performance
to come out of the game.
For a team that the rumors were,
the vibes are bad, the vibes are bad,
the vibes are bad,
and then you get blown,
the door is blown off you by Daniel Jones.
Yeah. And look, the rest of your division,
the Patriots, they didn't win against the Raiders,
but I still think a lot of it came out like, yeah, could have been worse.
Right.
The Jets, not too shabby.
Miami could not have been worse.
Could not have been worse, but at once it couldn't have been worse,
but also didn't feel like an outlier performance.
Right.
It didn't feel like a game where everything goes wrong.
You have bad fumble up.
You know, you reference, you know, drop a kickoff or something,
but it was just, they did not, it's never good when you're quitting week one.
Hey, man, did you know that Zach Wilson
is wearing number zero?
No, I did not.
Okay, look, man.
Yeah, that's, he's still in the league.
Yeah, yeah, at age like 26, right?
Right.
Look, I don't like that they let people go willy-nilly with the numbers.
Like, I, that feels like an old man take, but it's chaos.
Like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't dig that.
We live in a society.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
I don't dig it.
And I think the, can they wear a number zero?
No, I don't think we should have allowed that unless you were like Jim Otto,
double zero, maybe, right?
I wasn't here for this.
But wearing number zero is not quarterback behavior.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like, I don't think showing up to the press conference
wearing all the funny looking clothes is quarterback behavior either.
Like, I think the quarterback is a different role.
You can put yourself in a different way.
If you are wearing number zero, that's personal foul behavior.
You understand what I'm saying?
That's commissioners list behavior.
Like, that's number zero.
for wild cards.
You're not supposed to be no wild card.
Like that's, you know what that is?
That's a number for characters.
And Zach Wilson's a lot of things.
He's not a character.
He is not a character.
No, no, no, no, no.
He is not.
Or in the very least,
even if you are a character,
like Cam Newton didn't go full character
until after he was somebody's quarterback.
Right.
The quarterback is not supposed to be a character.
I saw Kyle of Murray wearing some funny-looking pink pants
coming in the studio.
when I was in the stadium and I was like, hey, man,
it's not quarterback behavior, brother.
That's character behavior.
All right, Bo, we've opened up the voicemail line, you know,
to anything and everything.
Got some good submissions this week.
Let's take a listen.
Hey, Beau.
I'm a childless man like yourself who's a little older,
younger than you, but still a little on the older side.
My friends are now starting to finally have kids.
I don't interact with a lot of children.
in my like current state in life.
However, I feel like kids are ruder than they used to be.
And I was wondering if you felt the same or if it's just like every generation thinks the younger generation is a little ruder.
It's mostly that they just cut in front of me.
I don't know what it is, but I feel like with this group of children more than others, adults are just kind of invisible to them.
That's an interesting question.
Ryan, there was a lot of subtle shade.
Yeah, I don't know if you're saying kids are rude or parents are worse.
No, I'm talking about all that shit before.
You know, I'm a little on the older side.
You know, not as old as you.
But, you know, I didn't think we had a, I think I took that personally situation.
Yeah, I was just kind of like, oh, okay.
Like, I guess I'll answer your question.
I don't know, man, you got to remember.
Kids love me.
Like I am, I don't know why.
I am everybody's favorite uncle type of situation with kids.
And they might be a little ruder than they used to be,
but you know what they still are?
Kids, right?
You give them that look.
They still know what that look means.
Like, especially if they ain't never really got it before,
it really hits them from a stranger grown up
that they kind of know a little bit, though.
They respond.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, because they know what they're not supposed to be doing.
Like, that is what.
of my favorite things about like kids before they're old enough to talk like ryan your son's about
two you know exactly what i'm talking about they know when they're not supposed to be doing something
yes and when you catch them in it and just give them that look like you know you're not supposed to be
doing that you see it wash over them like my son is not old enough to be rude but he's
certainly old enough to know when he's not supposed to be doing stuff yes because mostly because he
he thinks it's funny yes but they they give that peek around the corner they still do all of that
smart, yeah.
Yep.
And when you give them the,
A, they chill out.
And sometimes they chuckle and laugh about it.
Like, I remember the first time with Nick's daughter.
She was small enough for that.
She did try to run some of that game on me.
Because, of course, she would think she could run game on me.
I'd give her the world.
Right?
When she tried to run that game on me,
and I just looked at her like,
what did you say?
And she was just like, okay, tried it.
Just to see it if it would work.
Well, here's the thing.
When they're two and you're the grown-up,
you got to be the,
the winner in that situation. Yeah, that's the thing. You can't be out smart. You can try not to be
outsmarted by a two-year-old. Yeah, yeah. Last thing, you can't, look, can't negotiate
with terrorists. Just throwing it out there. All right, here's our next one.
What's up, Bo? This is your boy, Jvonne.
Coming out of the southwest side of H-town, by way of Louisiana, Lake Charles, I 10 by 10.
Don't stop inviting. You already know what it is? Man, I got a question for you. I know you
grew up in the mid-90s in Houston on the north side, but what are your thoughts on screw music?
I've never heard you talk about it.
Maybe you have before, but I'm just curious, do you like it?
Like, what do you think of it?
Like, do you still listen to it?
You grew up in the era where that was basically coming about in Houston.
So I'm just curious your take on screw music.
And, you know, if you like it, and how do you feel it represents Houston?
Appreciate the main letter show.
Hey, Rise.
You were a little bit of me, right?
Oh, yeah.
He coming from Lake Charles to Houston.
Of course, my part of Houston and his part of Houston
the damn near as far from each other as Lake Charles in Houston.
But that's a discussion for another day.
That's like Manhattan and Brooklyn.
Yes.
So, yeah, the screw thing got popping when I was in high school.
Like I want to say Pimp to Penn came out when I was in 10th or 11th grade.
Like I know it's 95.
And if those you are not from Houston, draped up and dripped out.
No one.
I'm talking about three in the morning.
Got the burner out of the stash.
that joint, right?
Not for me.
Not for me. And the reason it's not for me is actually, like, fairly simple.
I think it's obvious if you listen to Screw.
A couple things.
One, I ain't never said no lean, right?
Like the setting for this music is just always been a bit lost on me.
But there are things, like you chop and screw to write slow jam, I'm with it.
Like there are songs that you can chop and screw that I'll go for.
My thing with screw tapes was it was an absolute and total lack of quality control.
They let anybody get on these songs, rap it.
They be like, man, he freestyling.
I would hope so.
If you took the time to write that down and edit it, what are you talking about?
Right.
And so they let anybody in there on them songs.
talk about anything, talking about nothing.
So when you get cast, that can, like, actually rap and get on it.
And so, right, so like when the Swisher House stuff started coming out,
and they had more cast that could rap, I'm like, okay, I can see what's going on here.
But it was just, it also was, and this is for me, and this changed over time.
Like, the Mix Tate Messiah series, when a millionaire came out there and was like,
hey, man, we got to step the game up.
And you look at how much better rappers from Houston are now than they were then.
Like, that was a much more impactful piece of media than I think anybody gives you credit
for it because it was like, look, man, the rest of the country.
out here laughing at us. I don't know if it was going that far, but like as somebody who knew him back in
the day, I knew exactly where he was coming from, I knew what he was into. I knew all that stuff,
right? I totally get it. But for me, it just got to a point that as I'm listening to it,
that I understand that locally there is a bit of a rejection of what was considered to be quote,
unquote, hip-hop versus rap because of the rejection that Southern has felt from those people
toward their culture and toward their music.
Like, you know, it's the Pem C line, these country rap tunes.
But let me tell you what PimC had incredibly high quality control, right?
Like that was in place there.
And so for me, them screwtaste, they were just cranking the bad boys out.
Because they were like, man, these cats don't care if anybody can rap.
Just give them some beats.
And that'll do the job.
And me as somebody who did like all that hip hop, it was into different stuff,
I just wanted the music to be a little bit better.
But when it was good, it was good.
All right, here's our next one.
Hi, Bo.
Enjoy the show.
Just wondering from their perspective at this point in their respect of careers,
whose rap legacy is more salvageable.
Is it Kanye or is it great?
You ask me both of them of taking some of these self-inflicted elves,
it's impossible to see how any of them would be able to get back on the winning track of any way.
And I don't see a path for either way.
Vival.
So in your opinion, who you think has the better shot?
No, brother, I don't think anybody's winning this contest.
One, especially for Kanye, he's too old.
He's too old, and I don't know how he could put together anything dope enough
that the people that are out on him would care to check it out.
Right?
Like, I don't think he has anything left, and I need to be careful because I haven't listened
to anything he's made in seven years, at least the,
At this point.
It's been a long time.
Yeah, yeah.
I think the last thing I checked out was the record he did in Wyoming, the Yay Joint.
And so I was just like, all right, hey, man, it happens.
Sometimes you ain't got nothing left, right?
With Drake, I don't know if he can get it back.
Like, part of what he had was a bit of a vibe or as the kids say in aura.
I don't know if he can get it back.
But he's also 39 years old.
Like, he might have to go away for a long time and come back with like one of the,
like the L.L. Koojie album.
that just came out that he did with Q-Tip.
Like, look, man, the old dudes all came back
and wreck shop this year.
They all came back in rep shop.
L.L. Cool J.
You know, the Cleps Joint ain't my favorite,
but they came and they did it.
And there's other examples of these cats
that came back around.
That Rayquine album, not my favorite, but not bad.
I still need to listen to the new Supreme Clientel.
But people of that generation came back
and made a lot of really good records,
but these are guys that go back to a time,
but the thing that was most important
was how good you could rap.
And Drake is a really good.
rapper when he's on it, but it was the vibes, man.
Like, that's what he was sell as much as anything else was vibes and lifestyle.
And people don't believe in no more.
And like you said, we talked about these people who are old,
rap's a young game.
And, you know, after 10, how many of these great rappers last past 10 years, right?
10, 15 years.
I mean, and that's how, I mean, how far Kanye and Drake are going back.
Yeah, look, man, Drake, I'll say, Drake is had a very, very long career.
Like, the expectation that you could keep this going at this point.
point is asking for a lot out of this dude. But hey man, once people stop believing you,
it's hard. Only man to come back from us not believe in him was Rick Ross. It's hard to come
back from that. And people just don't believe it. And I don't think that he matured in a way where
look, his base man, the people 40 years old now. And they, only people that still want to hear
what Drake used to be or what Drake has become is suckers.
All right, here's our last one.
What's going on, Bo?
It's Jamal from D.C.
Not sure if you came across this yet, but Stars has a documentary about Magic City.
And so just curious to see if you have any interesting or podcast-appropriate stories about
times that you may have been to Magic City.
Long-time listener, appreciate it.
Keep it up.
Bye.
The first time I went to a gentleman's establishment, I was 18 years.
old and I went to Magic City
and I didn't know anything like that was possible.
The second time I went to Magic City, I was
21 years old and I spent the last
$35 I had to my name at Magic City.
I should stop there.
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