The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Chiefs blow it vs. Jaguars, Giannis-Knicks trade rumors, ESPN-Paul Finebaum dilemma | 10.07

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

On a special bonus episode, Bomani Jones reacts to the Chiefs stunning loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and explains why he still believes Kansas City will make the playoffs. Later, he explores the reports of trade discussions between the Milwaukee Bucks and the New York Knicks and explains why he thinks it is best for Giannis to stay in Milwaukee. After the break, he discusses the awkward situation between ESPN and Paul Finebaum, the upcoming UFC event at the White House, the poor reviews for Taylor Swift's album, and much more! 01:00 - Jaguars Stun Chiefs 15:50 - Why Giannis Shouldn't Want to Be Traded to the Knicks 33:00 - ESPN's Paul Finebaum Problem 41:30 - Taylor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're going to talk a little NBA in just a moment. Also take your voicemails. So Monday night, the Chiefs played against the Jaguars. And I got to tell you, man, it was really looking. looking like the Chiefs were hitting right back to the Super Bowl till they fuck around and lost. I don't I don't really know any other way to put that. The Mahomes picked six for example. That was it.

Oh, man, fucking around, man. Just got caught up in that. It looked. Ryan, you tell me if I'm crazy, man. But it was looking like the chiefs of your youth a little early there. Yeah, I mean, you get out to early 14 point lead. Mahomes just throwing the ball over the field. but Xavier Worthy is looking good.

And this is the exact sort of game they won every time last year and seemed to lose every time this year. Yes. Now I want you to tell me what you think about this right fast, because I think that we've talked a lot about the Chiefs and the lack of weaponry that they had given them a homes over time, and I think that

that's fair. But either Taekwon Thornton, Hollywood, Brown, or Xavier Worthy is going to be the number three receiver for this team. That, to me, sounds like a very good receiver court. And you have to remember, after, in two weeks, they're getting Rishi Rice back. Yes, yes. And once every month or so, you'll probably get a good game out of Travis Kelsey.

They got a touchdown last night. And that's no, he's just, oh, man, like it amazes me how we just completely ignore that these cats get old. He's one of the, like, five or six NFL players older than me. Yes. Yes. How about this? If I am not mistaken, he's older than Gronk. They're almost exactly the same age.

And Gronk is almost about to be eligible for the Hall of Fame. That's exactly what I was about to say. He retired twice. Yeah, he'd go be into Hall of Fame. If he had stuck out the first retirement, right? He'd be in the Hall of Fame. He'd be in the Hall of Fame. And Travis Kelsey is still playing football.

Now, also of note, Rob Garkowski played like three, four seasons before Travis Kelsey caught a pass. That's true. Yeah, because he came out super early, right? He came out young. Kelsey was in school as an older guy and then missed the first season with an entry, right? So we get these weird quirks. But anyway, the other thing that was like, damn, the Chiefs just got to fuck around and lost. Travis. Trevor Lawrence. It's one thing what I call Justin Jefferson, Jordan Jefferson, because Jordan Jefferson is his brother. And that's who we met first. But if I call Trevor Lawrence, Travis Lawrence, that, that, I mean, that. My dad wouldn't even do that. But anyway, if you did not see the touchdown where the Jaguars won this game,

Trevor Lawrence, one of his two rushing touchdowns, by the way, Trevor Lawrence drops back and falls down, dropping back. But nobody touched him. And so he gets up and it's kind of a chaotic scramble. It doesn't appear that he even bothered to look to see if perhaps there was a pass for him to throw. He got up and, I mean, Trevor Lawrence is a fairly athletic chap,

but, I mean, he's not Michael Vick. He got up and he put everything together and he went in and he scored a touchdown. And I don't know if anybody on the internet has put any music to that video. Back when you could talk about Kanye in front of people, it was the father stretched my hands joint for those kinds of things.

If you wanted to go real old school, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, c cah, da, doon, doon, do. Because I need some ironic triumphant music for what went on. I don't, you know, I'm a younger sibling, and therefore you have different kind of events and things that happen in your life

as a younger sibling. And every now and then, you got to like try to run away. You know what I mean? Like my siblings are way older, so they was never going to do anything terrible to me. But at the same time, you don't really know this. And when you running away, when you fall down and have to get up, it feels like you're moving like molasses trying to get it back together

because the stakes are so high. It's not even so much about how fast you're actually moving. It's about everything relative to the sphere of the world that you happen to be in in that moment. I cannot imagine how panicked and terrified and how slowly Trevor Lawrence felt like he was moving when he was trying to get up after falling down. Because I don't care what nobody's sake. I can't imagine having to go back into that locker room having to say,

sorry about that, fellas, I just tripped over my shoe laces. I'll make sure I tie him next time. We got the chance to go out here win the game right now, and we don't win it because I fell down. Now, on the other hand, imagine what? what it's like being any of those Kansas City Chiefs who have now realized that Trevor Lawrence has fallen down and it might be your chance to be a hero to go make that move.

But what if you made that move and Trevor Lawrence got up and he ran right where you was supposed to be? But you thought you had your chance. I could just see thought bubbles for everybody in that moment as it happens and then Trevor Lawrence scores the touchdown, and then Trevor Lawrence thought bubble turns into, had it all the way.

And the Chiefs thought bubbles turn to, damn, maybe we not go make the playoffs. Like, Ryan, do you think they're going to make the playoffs? I do. I just, they have a tough schedule, but the, the, the, the, the, FC is bad. There's a lot of teams you can almost go through and cross off already. We're not, we're not even,

to, you know, starting getting into the holidays of October yet. But I mean, it is, I mean, do you believe, like even in that own division, do you believe in the Chargers, no offensive linemen? Do you believe in Bo Nix?

You got, you hit, you hit it right there. That's what I was about to say. We're talking about whether or not they're going to go to the playoffs. Yeah. If you watched the Chargers play Washington on Sunday,

you feel like the Chiefs are going to win the division. Right. And by the way, in spite of going on the road and beating the Eagles and scoring 18 points in the fourth quarter, I do not think there was very much encouraging that came out of that, to me at least, for Broncos Eagles. Like I felt like the Eagles lost that game. But I did not come away from that thinking, oh, okay, maybe I've been wrong about the Broncos.

And I damn sure it didn't come away from it feeling like I was wrong about Bo Nix. Like, I'm out here having to try to, you know, entertain some possibilities with Baker Mayfield. and Sam, I still cannot believe they have played their way out of Journeyman. Even Gino Smith didn't really play his way out of Journey Man because he went on another journey, right after he had like got, and now he out here looking like the journey. Journey might be over soon. They're about saying the end of the road is what it's looking like over there right now. And I think that's just because he's like, dude, I play with Bums and I got to,

somebody got to do something. I feel like he, I feel like he'd take him one for the team right now because I can't see how he got so bad, so fast after being, I thought very good last. year. I mean, Bo Nix falls into, I think, where you and I have a similar bias, which is players who are not good in the SEC. Yes. That's, that's it. I saw him be not good for those whole three years. Bo Nix is his oldest Travis Kelsey. I hope he figures the shit out by now. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. There are Bo Nix is old enough. We need to keep him away from Mark Sanchez.

Yeah, yo, there's something very interesting that happens when you watch a guy play too much college football. Like, I think for real this happened with Jimmy Johnson and Troy Aitman. Like, they drafted Troy Aitman with the number one pick and then drafted Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft a couple of months after that because Jimmy's boys broke Troy's leg, right, in that game. And Jimmy had been watching Troy since he was in high school because Jimmy coached in Oklahoma State.

You know too much. I think he knew too much. But I don't think we're wrong in this about Bo Nix. Like every now and then, I see Bo Nix make like a flash play. But what I think Bo Nix is, and it really comes down to it. He has an offensive genius head coach who I think believes that his system

can figure out what to do with a quarterback if they have insert traits here. And then Bo Nix has those traits and he thinks that, okay, we can work this out in what I do. And you hear Sean Payton talk about what he liked about Bo Nix so much said he didn't turn the ball over and take sacks, which is code speak for he does what I'll tell him to do.

He does what I'll tell him to do, but let's be honest about this. Drew Breeze is the highest echelon system quarterback. Like, he got it together at the end in San Diego, right? I don't want to pretend like he didn't end. I think it was running a North Turner offense, like getting toward the end, too. So I don't want to pretend like he never had anything going to San Diego, right? But go look at the offense Drew Breeze ran at Purdue.

Go look how it started in the NFL where it was so bad that he won a comeback player of the year in 2004. and there wasn't an injury. And then go look at what it was when he got with Sean Payton. That Sean Payton offense that he was running looked a lot like what they were doing at Purdue, which is a super duper system quarterback offense. That's not shade of Drew Breits. He is a no-brainer Hall of Famer who somehow figured out how to make his neck longer. There's no way his neck was always that long.

I mean, here's the thing. Every quarterback who is under 6-2 is a system quarterback. Or super athlete. super, super athlete, yes. Right. But Drew Breeze is out there on, on his toenails with his neck all the way up, looking over the lines and making it happen. And so I think with Bo Nix, Sean Payton sees a guy like, oh, if he'll just do what I tell him, then we can make everything work. But to get that back to the Chiefs, the way things are stacking up for the Chiefs right now, them going to the playoffs, yeah, they're going to the playoffs. I'm going to go ahead and say it right now.

They're going to win the AFC West. That's right. Now, I don't know if they're going to have the number one overall seed. That appears to be the Indianapolis Colts. You get to play the Titans twice. You know, that helps. Titans twice. And honestly, you could do worse than a couple of games against the Jags.

Right? But no, look, I mean, how do you feel about the fact that Buffalo can't stop nobody for running the ball? And also, I mean, we thought, you know, know, Bill's Ravens opening night of the season was a match between two Titans. Oh, it was not. And it turns out the Ravens are not, you know, the juggernauts we thought they were. Well, hold on, to be fair, though, the version of the Ravens that we see now was not

the version of the Ravens that. I mean, the offense is, you know, the ver, but that defense is obviously. The defense is cheeks. You are correct. You're right. You are right. The Chiefs are taking charitable contributions. I mean, the Chiefs, the Ravens, they're taking, I mean, the Chiefs too,

but they take it charitable contributions or defense, you are correct. But there's nothing. The bright side for the chiefs is there's nothing that says

that you can't come out of that conference. Nothing at all. And it's interesting that you mentioned the idea that the AFC isn't good because this is,

I forget who I saw mentioned this online many months ago, but this is becoming a mirroring of the 80s and 90s where the AFC has the quarterbacks, but the NFC has the teams.

Like all the top-notch quarterbacks that we talk about in the league, they all play in the AFC. Who's the best quarterback of the NFC? I mean, the quarterback playing the best in the NFC this year is Dak Prescott. But if you were just to go through the NFC and say, what quarterback are you giving me off of these teams?

What's the one you're taking? Is it possibly Stafford? It's Stafford by reputation and hurts by accomplishments. Yeah, and yeah, I mean, go up and down. Go up and down. It's a weird, weird conference when they start talking about who the quarterback are and what you can get out of them. Is it Baker Mayfield? I was saying, I thought you were, when you said playing the best, I think you can make an argument.

You could. You could. It's Baker. But I mean, they're weird team. They're four and one and have a negative DVOA, which is almost impossible. Yeah, for everybody to know what that means, that's bad. Yeah. That's an advanced stat that says your, uh, TLDR, you're not very good. Yeah. So, and so for people who have heard of what DVOA is and don't understand it, I think that this is the easiest synopsis. It's actually a really interesting statistic. So the way DVOA works is it takes a measure of every play, but the measure is based on how many yards you had to go to get the first down. So that way, a 15-yard pass on first and 10 is not treated the same as a 15-yard pass on 3rd and 18, where they're in cover 3 and they're letting you have everything in front of you as long as you

don't get the first down, right? So it puts the context of the situation. and the evaluation of every play, which is to say, per play, Tampa Bay is living that negative life. That's what they're saying. So all of this happens and say you get the Kansas City Chiefs and you get them in the playoffs

and you still have the best quarterback that I have ever seen who will probably have three or four very good receivers by the time it comes back, by the time that we get there. If they figure anything out on defense, nothing that is happening right now really matters. Now that being said, Ryan,

the version of the Ravens that they got to play against was worse than the version of the Ravens that the bills got to play against. And that is doing a lot to bolster a lot of what the Chiefs got going. I mean, even if the Chiefs don't win the Division, you're going to probably be playing whoever wins the AFC North,

which is either going to be, you know, Aaron Rogers after his 42nd birthday. Yes. Or whatever the Ravens, are at this point. By the way, we will wrap on this. The Baltimore Ravens have played five games. Do you know how many points they have given up? Two hundred and six. Not quite, but not far. 177. The Make a Wish Foundation has given up 154. The Bengals have given up 154. The Bengals have given 156. They have given up

177. They will not have that same defensive coordinator all year long. Right that down. All right. NBA season is getting close. Ryan, by the time, these people have a chance to watch this. LeBron will have explained what the decision part two was. Is that what he was teasing on line? The second decision.

The second decision. I got a phone call from a television network. and they're like, hey, can you come on sometime on Tuesday? Talk about LeBron. And I said, what is there to talk about LeBron? And they said, well, he's teasing something like the second decision. We're thinking it might be retirement. No.

It will not be that. That I was certain of. If choosing the decision framing again is certainly a choice. Yes. But choosing, trying to book in his career with the worst moment is, does not seem, does not seem very lowbrose. It seems like an ad agency idea,

not a LeBron idea. I thought the lesson that they learned from the decision part one is that there wouldn't go be no decision part two. The lesson they learned for the decision part one was to put out a press release for the next time that you made your decision of where to go.

Yeah, call Lee Jenkins. Yeah, never did this again. But we are getting close to the season. The Lakers are going to be fascinating. J.J. Reddy. says that he talks to chat GPT all the time because he's bad, bad, bad. JJ's an interesting situation, right? Like, yeah.

I still think that job is going to kill him. I still don't think that he has the temper the temperament. I think he has to give everyone and his staff a break from him. That's why he talks to chat DVD for an hour and half a day. Yeah, back, who on the staff came up with the idea? That's a genius. Yeah, who was like, hey, man, you ought to talk. You know, you could always just ask Jack GBT this.

But here's the thing that Chad Jat Jop. about Chad GPT, and we've talked about this a little bit here. But Chat GPT don't never give you is no backtalk. So you can tell ChatGBTGPT anything, and it's going to tell you that you're right. Sounds to JJ Redick's best friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, and I don't know exactly how well JJ deals with feedback.

I don't have a great answer with that. But if you don't like backtalk, Chad GPT is in fact for you. Now, again, you can always read books. But Chad GPT is the answer that many people have, chosen. But we came to talk about the NBA because Janus Atentacunfo is back with the Milwaukee Bucks. Sean Sharania of ESPN wrote a very long piece. Basically about what happened or did not happen during the summer with the bucks in Janus and the other interesting group in the story is the Knicks. Apparently the Knicks were the only team that Janus demonstrated.

an interest in playing for. And the Knicks did not ever make a real offer to Milwaukee in large part because the Knicks traded all their stuff to get McHale Bridges and then have signed McHale Bridges to a massive extension that is, who, boy, he better hope Knicks fans don't remember that because they're going to hate him unless something drastically changes about his approach to physical basketball. They are going to hate him by the time this year ends because this is going to be a very, very, very antsy situation with the next. Anyway, Yadis is back with Milwaukee. Yonis is in the place with Milwaukee where he's like, hey man, if we're not looking like we're a contender for a championship,

then what am I doing here? I would like to go somewhere else. And I think that that is a reasonable premise. It is a reasonable idea. Keeping in mind, the bucks have not been out of the first round the last three seasons. Um, I made, when we did that list of 25 athletes in the last 25 years, Nick made a fair argument that I penalized Kobe for those three years

in the middle of his career post-Shack pre-Gasol. But we don't do that to Steph Curry, who had a similar lull in his career. And I think the argument that I would make against that is what it meant to have a superstar player in terms of your outcomes

was different in 2006 and 2007 than what it is now because the rules of the game have changed. The rules of the league have changed where it is much more difficult for a great player to have the impact. And there's more great basketball. There's more NBA level basketball players. Exactly. But 20 years ago, we couldn't, we had pretty much the same amount of successful

quarterbacks. We have two to three X capable NBA basketball players that we do. I'll put it to you like this. In 2007, LeBron James could drag that team. He dragged to the finals. you can't do that now. That's a 30 win team in today's NBA. Yeah, yeah, you couldn't do that then.

Like, that's not, that's where the game is changed. So that's kind of the argument that I make there. But at the same time, like, did they lose in five games in the first round is the number one seed? Like, I mean, these are, it's some indefensible losses that he has had and that he has put up. The fact that they won a championship in game six went the way the game six went means that there's some questions that we know. longer ask about him. But it is somewhat, it's very interesting that the question is always been, are the bucks doing enough for Janus? And the question has not been, do the bucks need to go ahead and

move on to their future without him, given what his age is and given that he has a gain, that the aging process as the athleticism declines is probably going to be a bit harsh, unless he lets Akeem Elijah Juan take some of his money and go down there and really get his ass to dream shaking. You know what I'm saying? They can get down there

talking Nigerian stuff, whatever that means. You know, they can do that. But anyway, I still think the best play for both parties involved is real simple, man. Keep Yonis and Yonis stick around.

Like, this is the thing about the sports, right? and we can't say this to people out loud. And it's very, very interesting. For most people, kind of sticking around where you at and making it happen is the best move. Or maybe I could be saying it's the most convenient move. But I think very often and in a lot of ways, it ultimately proves to be the most fulfilling

move. And I think in the current NBA, and we've talked about this a little bit of a lot of, little bit before, but I want to stay with this point and keep reminding people of it because I think it's going to prove itself in the end. It's going to be so hard to keep a title window open because they've done so much with the rules to encourage parity that you can go leave now and hop on the next big thing because it gives you a chance at a championship. But that chance at a championship is not going to be sustainable in all likelihood, which means in a year, maybe two,

you're going to be out here looking for another place to go. And this isn't college. And when I say this isn't college, I mean that hop year-to-year transfer situation, it's much easier for them to do that now than it is for somebody to do that in the NBA. If you are moving on to this next team, somebody's going to have to give up some months,

there's going to be scarce, finite resources that have to be dealt with in order to make that happen. You know what I mean? Like, this is, these teams wanted to find ways to encourage players to stay. And originally the plan was, we will make it so that you could pay a guy more money to stay. And thereby, that guy won't wind up leaving, right? and that happened, but what they did as much as anything else was, for example, allow the Wizards to pay John Wald and Bradley Beal. Big win for you guys.

Right? And look, those are two guys that were very good players, and I think very important to that franchise. But I don't think that's how the owners envisioned that these things would go, right? But it turns out that the best way it appears to encourage these people to stay in the same place, is that grass ain't greener over there. Because what they were trying to say was the grass is greener over here and is green with this money. Now the argument is if you go over there

and it doesn't work right away, then what? Yeah, there's everyone, like title windows used to be four or five years. I mean, when LeBron was going back to the first decision, he's saying not two, not three, not four. I mean, I think if you ask people how many titles are that group of guys are going to win, people would have said three or four championships. Yeah.

And now title windows, 18 months? I think the title window used to be as long as you had a title player. Right. So like for me, back in the day, and I don't know how to, so I don't know how to define the term superstar in this era. And the reason I say that is this.

Back in the day, the way I defined the superstar was, does this team have a chance to win a championship just because you are on the team, right? So it is for that reason that I had said, Pete Dwight Howard was a superstar. A lot of people might not have felt that way, but Pete Dwight Howard was a superstar. You had a chance to win a championship just because you had him on the team. Steph Curry, the 2015 version, like get around to there, that was a superstar. the reason they had a chance to win championships and did win championships is because that guy was on the team. LeBron James, an example of a guy that I think fit that same description, right?

You can win a championship simply because this guy plays for your team. That was it. There is no player in the NBA right now that is so good that you have a chance to win a championship just because that player was on your team. Nicola Yochich is probably one of the 15 best players in the history of the NBA. You do not have a chance to win a championship. simply because that guy is on your team. The impact of one individual player just isn't that strong anymore. It doesn't exist in that way, right?

So now, if you are that guy, you're in a place. They put the people around you that make you good enough to win a championship. And then in a year maybe two, that all becomes too expensive. And then you break that thing down for parts. That's what the new NBA is going to be. And so to me, it reminds me, I'll put names to it. So after, I did the show call High Noon for ESPN,

and after it ended, I got a phone call on a phone call with an infamous gentleman named Norby Williams, right? And so I get on the phone with Norby and just, you know, talk about the future, where are things going? I just signed a contract extension, you know, but there was just COVID.

There was nothing really for me to do, and I didn't really know the cat. So I was like, hey, man, let's get on the phone and let's talk it out. And I'd never forget. And if you know anything about Norby's time at ESPN, Norby, what they call a survivor. Every job, I think, has somebody that's just a survivor.

And, you know, all these things happen. And somehow this guy stick around, right? Norby, until he ran across Pat McAfee, was a survivor. So anyway, I'm on the phone with Norby, and Norby just says, me, you know what? Somebody like you, it just need to just wait a little while. And things will change. Let's just wait for things to change. That's what he told me. It was like,

look, things were going a certain way and you were up and now things have changed and now you're down. But if you can wait this out long enough, it'll turn right back around into your favor. And in a certain form of fashion, he was correct. Now, of course, Neither of us worked there anymore, so you could question in total what the advice was, but he wasn't wrong. He wasn't wrong about it. Sometimes things change, and you just need to lay low for a little bit and wait for the things to turn. And I think that the media environment and everything else has created a circumstance where

everybody feels this pressure to hurry up and win like right now, because if you don't win, like right now, we're going to be out here talking bad about you. I don't think we're going to have the capacity to talk bad about the so many people anymore, because this is going to be the state of affairs for everybody. Like, look what's happened with Denver, where I thought Denver was going to be able to go on a run for years, but it turned out that the front part of the Denver window was when Murray and Porter were hurt. They came back for what turned out to be like the end of the window. Then they had that down year, Ryan, and went and got a couple more pieces.

And now it looks like they are one of the top contenders in the West again. Yeah, we'll see how that all fits together. but I think, like you said, like after they won that first title, you know, Yolk is clearly the best player in the league. You think they're stacked for a few more, and they haven't been back since. Yeah, it's just not how it works anymore. You just got to lay low.

And so for Yonnas, maybe the window is closed. Maybe the window is over. But your chance of getting back to the top is probably just as strong in Milwaukee as it is were you to leave. It's probably right there. So if I'm you, I just stick around. Football is back and so is your shot at big wins. With Draft Kings pick six, the official daily fantasy partner of the NFL,

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Bo, what are your thoughts on this? Hey, man. There's a reason why they told us. we couldn't talk about politics back in the day when I worked over there. Right. And I don't think, as much as people won't believe me, I don't think that not wanting us to talk about politics at ESPN back in the day was nearly about ideology than it is. We talk about the stuff, they being suits at the company, got to clean up whatever mess comes from. Right. And not only do they then have to wind up cleaning a mess that comes from it, they have to try to

clean up this mess with an understanding that the people who are doing the mess cleaning have their own politics also. And those are going to, those are going to affect whatever decision wind up being mad. And then it's like, damn, what do we do? Like, I don't know if you ever heard this story, Ryan, but David Stern's point about the decision was fantastic, which was the problem with the decision for LeBron was there are 30 teams and 29 fan bases are going to hate you. Yeah, anything you say where 97% of the people are unhappy is probably not going to not the best way in for our entire league and our entire operation.

Only one set of people is going to like it. Now, with sports by and large, there's going to be, basically, if you offer sports opinion, especially at a national platform, most of the people aren't that invested in that particular game that you're talking about. There's the fans of this team, fans of that team. And then there's everybody else that's just kind of looking and maybe has some general opinion, but they don't have like a personal investment. It's not nearly a this side, that side scenario as politics is, right? And so the idea of Fymbaum running for Senate,

number one, it squarely puts them in a this side, that side proposition at the very least with the fan base that's in Alabama, which I would imagine is a significant proportion of the fan base that listens to the Fynebaum show because of its historical roots, right? That's That's number one. ESPN don't want that part. They don't want none of this. The other part that ESPN don't want none of is this right here. Are you pulling this guy off the air because he says he's running for Senate? Now, I will tell you, I don't have any inside information from the company about this. I haven't talked to anybody that works there about it. I feel very confident saying this about the current world order at ESPN. They ain't no rules, right? Like not in terms of your ideology.

not in terms of what your politics are. So what would you think? You think that because Paul Feinbaum says that he's thinking about running for Senate, that ESPN will pull them off the air for what reason? The only reason that would make sense is the equal time provision and them having a measure of concern about whether or not they run into conflict with that. And if that's the case, that's perfectly fair, right? I mean, that's not even perfectly fair.

That's what they have to do. Yeah, that's not an editorial decision. That's a legal decision. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no other option. That's what has to be done. But I don't think for a moment that it is an editorial decision that you said you're down with Donald Trump.

We can't have that. Did you just see what Iger did for Trump? Did you just see it? It just happened over there with the Kimmel thing. Did you see what happened? No, I don't believe for a moment. that for reasons of politics that they would tell Feinbaum that he's got to get off the air. But I can tell you it is. Did you see somebody called in? They had a call or they had to drop the call immediately.

And he saw Fine Mom chuckling? Yeah, he got on there talking about the politics. And they had to dump him immediately. They don't want that every day. I will make one last point. And I mean, if you guys know much of the history, that's not my guy. That's not my friend. Right. I'll just leave at that. I don't, I've had one actual factual conversation with Paul Feinbaum in my life that was not on television, but that's not my dude. Okay. I'll just make this point. I forget what year it was, I believe it was in the 1960s, but Bud Wilkinson, the legendary head football coach at Oklahoma, ran for the Senate in the 1960s, and he lost.

He did not win that race. Um, when Tom Osborne, left Nebraska after the 1997 season. He won a seat in the House. And then he tried to run for Senate and he got his ass handed to him into primary. As I recall. I'm saying all that to say. There was a time where, yeah, sure,

you coach some football or something like that. But that didn't mean we were going to give you like an important position because that would be. silly. We were a proper country once. You know what I mean? Not anymore. People in Alabama saw Doug Democrat win once and then we're going football coaches and sports commentators running for political. Hold on. Here's the thing. Tupperville didn't even coach Alabama. You understand what I'm saying? Like he did not even coach Alabama. We didn't always do this is all I'm saying. Like

the fact that we have reached a point where it is a conceivable idea that Paul Feinbaum could be, be your senator, and it is entirely on the basis of the fact that people know who he is. Right. So I got to, many of you know, my good friend Matt Jones in Kentucky, he considered running for Senate against Mitch McConnell. And the people of the party wanted him to run. But the biggest part of why they wanted him to run is because he had the name recognition of a radio show. However, Matt Jones and Paul Feinbaum are different people. Matt Jones has a degree from Duke Law School. He is one of the more brilliant people that I know he traffics in these spaces a little bit differently. I don't know anything about what Paul Feinbaum thinks about anything at all,

right? Like if you're telling me, the folks in Kentucky are like, hey, Matt, you're really visible and you're probably the most popular liberal that we have in this state whose father had not previously been the governor. Why don't you come on down? Yeah, I think that makes sense. I don't know anything that Paul thinks about anything in this world other than Hank Williams, Jr. That's it. That's the only place where I know anything about what he thinks about stuff. And somebody really signed up and was like, hey, man, what do you think about making, what do you think about that guy being the senator? Does that sound like being a good idea? What? And it gets back to the idea that my man, Neil Postman had in one of those books

that the growth of television, which was then expanded by the internet, was going to reach a point where in order to run for a political office, some other measure of fame was going to become a prerequisite. And what Paul Feinbaum has that not that many people in the state of Alabama have is fame and preexisting name recognition. But this is crazy talk, hard stop. All right, sticking with politics, Donald Trump says that the White House UFC events will be held on June 14th at right around his 80th birthday. Rumors of Connor McGregor and John Jones participating in this, Bo, what do you think?

Connor McGregor, where is it? from? Ironed. Okay, it ain't America. Just, just, just, what are we doing, man? Have you seen those mock-ups that had it looking like it was going to have to be like

sparklers and pyro and shit out there? Like, I just, it wasn't that long ago that you couldn't get them to talk about MMA on ESPN because it was seen as being kind of beneath the dignity of the network. They about to do this at the White House. At the...

And I was incorrect. It is his 80th birthday. Oh, I did not know that. It's not only a UFC event, it's also a Trump birthday party. I'm just going to throw this out here and let us move on because it just dawned on me. How many January 6 jokes do you think that people are going to be spitting out about that crowd making it? Finally, we have come back to Washington, D.C. All right.

And finally, Taylor Swift's latest album, the wife of a showgirl came out on Friday. It has met mixed reviews online. Pitchfork gave the album a 5.9 out of 10. Bo, have you listened to the new Taylor Swift album? Oh, hell, no, I don't do that. Like, I don't listen to her music, so I don't say anything judgmental about her music.

It could be excellent. I truly have no idea. I think there are two parts of this that are interesting, right? I don't know if you have been reading the reviews of this or other things that have come up, but one of the things is she's talking a lot about having sex with Travis Cousie. And

that is not the best songwriting that I have ever heard, right? Now granted, my favorite is Prince, who is the best in writing songs about sex anywhere in the print says things like if I was anything else, I'd be the water in your bath.

Like this is this is the level of sex talk that I've grown accustomed to on records. She wrote a song called Wood and called that man a redwood. This is not, this isn't, this isn't wheelhouse songwriting stuff for her. And her fans not enjoying it. I don't know if she like Adele, you know what I'm saying?

And like, if Adele say she's putting out a record, you need to call Rich Paul to make sure he okay. Because at the very least he's sleeping on the couch. She only, she don't feel like singing when things is going good. He must be crazy. It's just not how it goes. But what I find interesting about this with her is, every great artist has a brick or two, right? Some more than others, some stretch it out for a while,

but like my guy, Sturgel, that last Sturgeon record. It's a brick, guys. I think we can all go back and recognize. We don't want to go back and listen to it. It's a brick. We don't acknowledge bricks from stars as much because stars are more invested, especially online, to saying how much they love it.

This is the first time I could think of in a long time that a superstar's fans came straight out and said, she hit us with a brick. But that's okay. Everybody gets to give us a brick every now and then. But this sounds like a brick. Yeah, we have a, we have a very long runway with artists in terms of, we just forget the bad albums.

Yes. Yeah, everybody's got one. Like you go back and look at who your favorite is, and you'd be like, I don't know about that one right there, right? That one feels, that one, that was not their best. You know what you say about those? It's got some songs on it. Right?

You start listing the songs individually. But like, oh, but wait a minute, wait a minute. Love 60 has with two are in love and I wish you heaven. And I like Glambslam. You like Glambslam? Dance all, you don't like dance all? Like, that's the way that you wind up having the discussion. And I don't think that record was a brick, but it's got some songs on it.

Or you start saying it's better than people remember after a while. For example, Alcass Idlewild, it is better than you remember. But it was a brick in the moment. But it's got Boris Prout. It's got Boutron Angel. It's got some songs on it. It's better than you remember. Maybe that's what the Taylor fans will be saying about this one.

Or, or, or maybe she'd be like, fine, man. How about I just go be in love? I already got a go zillion dollars. What I need y'all for? Talk about a break. All right. Bonus episode, bonus voicemails. Here's our first one.

What's up, Bo? This is Ant calling from the D&D. I know you're a big Angerson pack guy I am too unfortunately I wasn't able to catch his tour last year I was sick

the days he was in my area but I was able to catch his no worries tour and I was pleasantly surprised I wasn't too familiar with the music

but I went hoping he was going to do some of the solo stuff and really enjoyed the show so just curious are you a fan of no worries and have you seen Stammon's for?

By the show, keep doing your thing. No and no. Look, I have tried the no-worry stuff. At every turn, I try it. And it always just sounds like a lesser version of Edison pack. Somebody got mad at me one time, because I said online about it, I'm like, all the stuff that he does,

that he does with other people, I don't like. They all get in the way. Like, I think that he is one of the most talented, greatest performers song, like, some total. He is up there for me in a pantheonic air of things, right? That's where I am. Silk Sonic is a lesser version of him. The no worry stuff is a lesser version of him. And as somebody got mad at me one day online and was like, oh, so you're saying that it's a problem because of the producer he's working with?

That is exactly what I'm saying. Like what's crazy about that thought? I don't like when he do stuff with this dude. And it seems like he saves his real heat for himself because he knows better than the wasted on this cat. So yeah, no, no, no. I went and saw him in my old buddy Sean when he saw them at the Hollywood Bowl last year.

Hey man, this knowledge cat ain't going. No, no, no, no, no. So y'all can have that. Like I got one or two of them on vinyl just because I support the homie. You know what? He's not even the homie. I need to stop acting like I know that, man.

Because I did introduce myself to him and he was like, oh, my God, a fan. And I'm like, oh, shit. How do I get out of this situation? Oh, man, it's a tough game. It's a tough situation, tough situation. But yeah, no, no, no. You can have no worries. Not for me.

All right, here's our next one. What's good, Beaumani, man. This is Mike Z, man. I'm a big fan of the show. Been listening to it. I can't even remember how long I've been listening to it. But I've been listening to it for a long time, man. Shout out to the HBCUs.

I know you're a Clark Atlanta girl. My sister works there. She's a professor. And I can't, I ain't currently. I graduated from Tuskegee. But I called to talk about this Alabama Vanderbilt game, man. It's crazy that this was even a game. But I was watching my wife.

My wife was like, Hailing the Boer, or the coach for Alabama, looks like he does not like his job. And I had to tell her, look, I went to school in Tuskegee, which, you know, like 15 minutes from Auburn, and a couple hours from Tuscaloosa. But I was like, the way they care about football is ridiculous.

I had a homeboy send me a video from the Paul Firebine show. And he said, and I quote, using a order of money. And I quote, if Kailen the board was on life support, I would unplug it and charge my phone. And my homeboy was like, yo, they really like this in Alabama. And I was like, yes, he was so serious about saying that. And so my wife, no, he probably does not like his job. They be vandy, but still, what you think about that, bro? You think that kid a little boy like his child?

The answer to this question. I have been telling people this for the law. It is so much, I guess he already knew it, but now his wife is seeing it. Everybody's starting to understand because people hit me on line and be like, oh, no, they'll cut Saber's some slack. No, they will not. Saber was like 10 and 2. Let me get out of here before they burn my house down.

That's why Kaylon and the board was looking miserable because he was thinking. about what his life was going to be like in four hours if he lost to Vanderbilt at home. Oh, but how about this? It's not going to be any better if you win. Nothing is good enough. Nothing. They're playing.

There are 100-something teams and they're playing for a national title every single year. Nothing is good enough. And this is the thing I meant to mention when I was talking about the playoff on Monday that I think is important and I don't think people recognize.

One thing the playoff did is it increased the number of teams whose seasons end with a loss. So the existence of a playoff means more chances to win national championships and more chances to lose them if you're Alabama. They might have run Ryan Dayoff if he won a national title last year. You lose to Michigan and in the playoff? Nah, I think John Cooper was allowed to go to 10 to 10 and 1 against Michigan at that job. They don't, that's not a hang-um high job. But Alabama, if they don't win a national title in the next two years, he's out of there.

Yeah, but not even because they're going to fire him because he's going to leave. That was the thing. Ray Perkins left. Bill Curry kind of got fired, but ultimately left. Dennis Franchione left. Like these guys look around and say, oh, hell no. And they just leave. All right, here's our last one.

Hey, Beaumani. This is Russell from Virginia. I've been listening to the show since the Shannon days. And I'm calling in with a story about somebody leaving their job. in a memorable way. So back in the summer of 2000, on the weekend after my 16th birthday, I rode my bike to the nearest shopping center and came away with a job at a Quiznosubs. And I ended up working there about two years.

And along with the $5.65 an hour, I earned a lot of lessons about life. The person I learned the most from was a guy named Angelo. He was a general manager at the store. He was kind of a unique guy. He dealt a little bit of weed out of the back of the store. He worked high, which to that point in my life was not a thing I realized you could do. He ran a little amateur boxing club as to the back of the store. He brought his taser into work and showed me how that worked.

So, you know, I learned a lot about people by spending that amount of time with Angelo. but after about a year of working there, I came in, and there was a new general manager, and it turned out Angela had been fired. And he was a bit of a hothead, so I never really did find out what happened, but I can't say I was surprised. The thing that made it memorable was that about a month later, I got a call on a Friday morning, asked if I could come in for an emergency shift, and when I got there, it turned out the owner of the store had been in the hospital all night. And the reason he had been in the hospital all night was because, like every other Thursday, when he left the store with the cash take from the week so that he could deposit it in the bank the next day, he turned around to lock the door and close up. And somebody stepped out from the shadows and tased him.

And when he woke up from that tasing, obviously the $8,000 that was in the cash bag was gone. And that's all we really know for certain about that. So anyway, thanks for the show. Appreciate everything you do. Have a good one. First of all, well played all around in the setup of the story, right? Top to bottom. I also love this one.

I didn't know you could, he used to come to work high. I didn't know you could work high. That is a turning point moment in the lives of many of us. The first time you see somebody show up to work high and then you realize, wait a minute. he's still over there getting the job done. Huh. Ain't that something?

So I love that he's as he stacked. Like I feel like I know Angelo top to bottom the way he fully stacked it up. Yeah, if you give us a two minute voice mail, it's got to be a great story. And that was a rich character building. I also want to know all the things. How did Angelo manage to get this job? Like with all the things that he named by Angelo, if he was doing them as the general manager, he was also doing those things when he was working on the line.

Yeah, I want to, I want to know more about Andrew as well. Angelo, excuse me, someone. Someone. At the same place where Angelo demonstrated how to use the taser to the taser and what I love is that if Angelo did that, he did it with his signature on purpose to dare you. And apparently he came up, he had a, uh, He had a great plan.

Like I was watching Inside Man the other day. Great plan. Great plan. Great plan. Speaking of that, I've been watching a few movies for whatever reason. And in our next episode, we're going to have my buddy Howard Brian on. We're going to try something. You guys let us know what you think about this. But we're going to do some movie talk.

We're going to talk about one battle after another, maybe even a little bit about high and low and highest to lowest because Howard is a super movie dude. And, you know, I know how to talk. So, you know, check it out. It should be good stuff. But ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on The Right Time. We do this three times a week, sometimes four. Ryan Brumley, handling everything behind the scenes.

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