The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Chiefs' season over, College Football Playoff disaster, Diddy documentary reaction | 12.08
Episode Date: December 8, 2025Bomani Jones starts the show by reacting to the Kansas City Chiefs losing to the Houston Texans in a topsy-turvy AFC. Later, he reacts to Notre Dame being left out of the College Football Playoff and... explains why the whole system was broken from the start. Finally, he breaks down Shedeur Sanders' best performance of the season and discusses the incredible Sean Combs documentary on Netflix. 01:00 - Chiefs lose to Texans 21:12 - College Football Playoff disaster 39:00 - Shedeur Sanders Sabotage? 45:00 - Diddy documentary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original.
My name is Beaumani Jones.
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We will get to the madness of college football playoff,
which is not like March madness,
because when we say that, it's charming.
When we talk about college football madness,
because the motherfuckers is crazy.
But anyway,
Chiefs played the Texans Sunday night.
The Chiefs lost to the Texans Sunday night.
The Chiefs are now 20 and, I mean, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me,
the game was 20 to 10.
The Chiefs are now six and seven right there with the Baltimore Ravens.
Put a pin in that thought.
The Chiefs are somehow in 10th place in the conference.
And the reason that they are in 10th place in the conference,
which I didn't understand because they were there with the Ravens who,
what I'm looking at said ninth place,
but I'm like, but wait, the Chiefs beat the Ravens in week one.
And no, that's because the Ravens and the Chiefs also have the same record as the Miami Dolphins.
That's right.
That's where they down there at right now, right?
They down there with the dolphins who, I will be perfectly honest with you guys.
I completely forgot about it.
Like I didn't think that they got contracted, right?
Like, I didn't think that they weren't in the league anymore.
But you know, sometimes you just don't think about somebody for a long time.
He'd be like, oh, damn, I forgot that person even existed.
Especially when Tyree Kill got hurt.
Yeah.
Then then they disappeared from the Zite guys.
We didn't stop talking about them.
Like, once we realized they weren't going to fire.
Might me, Daniel.
I'll be honest with you.
I don't know if two are hurt or not.
Like, I mean, at any given day, it could be different.
I'm assuming that he's out there playing.
And, of course, part of why I don't know anything.
thing about them is, I haven't noticed that they won four games in a row. You know why I haven't
noticed why they haven't won, that they won four games in a row? Yeah, one of them was against the
bills. The rest was against cheeks, ass, and the Jets. And Pooh, boo. Yes, there we go.
The commandos, the Saints, and the Jets. That is who they were out there against. But yeah,
that's the company that the Chiefs keep right now. They're just not good.
And they are not good in a way that happens from time to time.
In football, I don't, I don't think it so much happens as much in baseball,
though I guess it happens in stretches in baseball.
And it's just not the way that basketball works.
But the chiefs are bad, but the players aren't.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if you were to point at the roster or point at, like, stats and stuff like that,
generally speaking, we don't really have an answer. So why is it that they're bad? Like,
what is your explanation for why it is that they're bad? And the answer is they are. Coming into
this week, Ryan, you know where the Chiefs who are a DVOA? I'm going to guess 12th.
Sixth. Sixth. But you know who's fourth? America's team to Detroit Lions. Yeah, it's football.
Right, right. Like, it's some, and that DVOA normally doesn't work like that. Like, you normally don't really get
bogies going in there in the way that you got this year.
But that's the thing with the Chiefs right now is that the Chiefs are,
they are bogeyish.
Patrick Mahomes had three interceptions yesterday that felt like the worst Patrick
Mahomes game that we've ever seen.
Yeah, I mean, the nerds were saying, if you go like by the EPA stats or
whatever, you like it was one of the, probably his worst game as a starter.
Look, and we saw this team.
We looked at the guys they had a receiver, like the things they built up.
Now, of course, they are in five dot territory.
Ryan, you haven't been doing this with me for a very long time.
They do not have an offensive line.
They have five dots.
And I got to be honest with you,
some of those dots ain't even like symmetrical dots.
They just blots.
They're replacement dots.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, it's not even the original dots.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know if they are Xs or O's,
but if they owes, they got holes in them.
Like, they are not, I mean, and it's not,
these guys are as good as they're supposed to be.
they're not all intended to be out there together at the same time.
Like it's supposed to just be one of y'all.
They just, I mean, they're just, they out there with the second, third unit type of dudes
and then you see another one get hurt in the course of the game.
And look, maybe that's the depth of the explanation, right?
Like, maybe we're being a little too hard on the chiefs in some total when it comes to this.
But I'm at a great point right before the show about this.
Man, this really makes you look at the Patriots run of the early 21st century.
And just be like, damn, y'all really did it.
because this never happened, right?
Like the 80s and 90s 409ers had a very similar situation
where this never happened.
But again, that is before the cap and then after the advent
and there was going to be some trickle down in this, right?
The Patriots were just coming out there.
And as you put it, Ryan, retooling around Tom Brady,
there were different kinds of teams.
And the chiefs, I think, had a certain element of how,
how it is that they retooled around my homes and the league kind of caught up paradigmatically,
right?
It's too high safety time all around.
So you're never going to get like the 5,000 yard chiefs passing again.
And then they figured out the nickel and dime game.
They did all this.
But this, it never looked like this with the Patriots at this point.
There was that one year where me and everybody else in my line of work said they were
finished in week four or five and then they won the Super Bowl.
That did happen.
They had bad months.
They would have bad September's, and we would do the what's wrong with the Patriots thing.
But they were never six and seven going into, you know, week 15.
Right.
But the other part is they would always be doing it with a bunch of low spades.
Right.
Right.
Like Tom Brady, obviously a Joker.
I'd say Grunk qualified as Joker.
You'd have like a Chandler Jones throwing in there.
But then when he started asking for money, they would get him out of here, right?
Patriots love to trade a 10.
of five deuses, right?
Like they are all about that one.
But they were out there by and large
with low spades.
Or even I would say that like Grom,
well, Grom was a bit of a spade,
but that one dude
that was killing people
was a very good player,
but like not quite a joker.
He's almost kind of like a king
of another suit. Like you could
trump it maybe, but like,
you know, a whole lot was going to have to break right
in order for you to do that.
It never was this, right?
They are sitting, like I said,
they're sitting down there with the Dolphins, bro.
Anybody think they could show up
and get a game against the Chiefs at this point?
Now, look, the Texans are one of those teams
that all year long has been better than their record, okay?
And a terrible matchup for the Chiefs in this specific spot
with how their defensive line is
and how bad the Chief's offensive line is.
Yeah, you've got Dots.
They've got Will Anderson and DeNeil Hunter.
Like, that's what they got.
And them boys was a coming dog.
They were on the way.
They were there.
So now what?
Let me tell you something about the AFC.
This is very interesting to look at, okay?
Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow.
We would all agree, I think, that those are three of the four best quarterbacks in the league.
Although Matthew Stafford is really bested up to math.
Anyway, those three guys will not be in the postseason.
It seems pretty clear at this point.
I guess it's not too late for Baltimore to catch the Steelers,
but Ryan, we're talking about teams that look like cheeks.
Specifically, Lamar Jackson does not look like a good quarterback right now.
No, I mean, he has struggled with the Steelers historically.
Like, that's been kind of like the Lamar Jackson big game narrative has always been around that.
But he looked bad yesterday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
he looked bad yesterday. He's looked bad this year.
They look bad.
When are you going to fire the coach?
Yeah, that was a loser of Leaves Town match between Tomlin and Harbaugh.
That's exactly what it was.
You got to get it done.
That was, that's what that one was looking like,
except we're not having the same conversation about Harbaugh,
and I find it, again, a little bit interesting.
Like this.
It's what happens when you play at 1 o'clock instead of 425.
You know what?
Great point.
But I tell you, who else is playing in that game at 1 o'clock?
Mike Tomlin.
and it would not have been treated like a one o'clock game if they had lost this.
But yeah,
AFC playoffs,
get ready for Bo Nix,
Drake May,
Trevor Lawrence,
who looked great.
Yes,
like I was looking up during that game and I was like,
wow,
that guy looks like he will be the number one recruit in America.
Yeah,
that guy looks like the number one recruit,
the number one picking the draft.
Yeah,
he looks like the reputed Trevor Lawrence that I honestly had not seen.
The ghost of Aaron Rogers.
Justin Herbert with a broken hand.
Yes, Josh Allen, who by the way,
looked like Josh Allen in the snow,
but has not played well this year.
I think that we would all admit.
So that's the fourth of those four.
And his team is going to be there, it looks like,
but it isn't, but it ain't in spite of him.
I wouldn't be clear,
but it's not so much because of him.
And yes, you say broken hand, Justin Herbert.
And C.J. Stroud, who got his egg scramble,
something vicious.
Like, this is a, this is weird.
I skipped over the Indianapolis Colts who, man, you want to talk about terrible luck,
terrible luck.
So they traded two first round picks to get Soss Gardner.
A big part of that is because they had found their quarterback,
or at least they believed they found their quarterback.
I thought they got a little bit hasty on leaning in on the idea that they had found their quarterback.
Anyway, Sons Gardner's out there, and we thought he tore his Achilles last week.
He did not.
And now he has a cash drain.
And now you can't play him because you have to treat him like he tore its Achilles.
That is exactly it.
You know what that is?
It's a pre-tore and Achilles.
Basically, yeah.
That is what a cash rate is.
But he did not tear his Achilles, which had to be very relieving to all parties involved since you traded two first round picks for him.
But it's cool.
You could do that because you already had a quarterback, except that quarterback is Daniel Jones, who had a bad left leg and then tore the Achilles on his right leg on Sunday.
And I would have presumed that means that he could.
can't play next week? I mean next year. Yes, I would presume that he cannot play next week.
I meant to say that he cannot play next season. My fault. Though I got to tell you,
Ryan, if Daniel Jones came out there with a tour to Killings next week and threw for 400 yards,
oh my God, make the movie now. Yeah. Right. And that movie would be not like an inspirational
sports movie. It would be science fiction. Yeah, the Bionic Man. Yes, yes. That's what it would have to be.
but, wait, how do you feel if you're them top to bottom?
Like, mortgaging your future, too fresh out picks with Saw's gardener
and was kind of wild.
Right.
That was like, like the AFC's wide open, we're going for it.
And then, you know, you get this great corner.
He's hurt within three weeks.
And then now you're starting Riley Leonard because you're a backup quarterback.
You spend a top five pick on has a broken face.
Yes, yes.
Now, also, I want to make this point about,
Saas Gardner and he is good, right?
I don't think any of us have any question about the fact that he is good.
Do you know how many interceptions he has in his career?
I'm going to say nine.
Three.
Three.
That feels impossible.
Three.
He made first team all pro in two seasons where he had two interceptions between them and one
interception with none.
That's not to say he isn't good.
Of course.
But I am asking the question.
question, and if you're trading two first round picks for a corner,
don't you kind of want them to turn things or turn it around the other way?
Right.
Like, that was the thing about Dion Sanders.
Dion Sanders, nobody was throwing over there and when they did it was coming back.
Richard Sherman always made the point that a great DB doesn't just make, like, shut it down.
You also sometimes got to lull them into giving you some picks.
Right.
Like forcing turnovers is part of the job.
But anyway.
You have to be so smart you tricked them into throwing a pick.
Correct.
So they made that move and now they're stuck like Chuck.
Yes, their first round quarterback from two seasons ago, Anthony Richardson has a broken face, right?
He has a broken orbital bone.
It is really bad.
Like, people have thought that it's like, oh, man, they're not telling the truth about Andrew Richardson.
They're hiding him.
No, they're like, yo, you can't really put this cat on camera on man.
His faces all broke up.
And guess what?
If you're the cults, you have no other option.
But hope that 2026.
is the year that Anthony Richardson
puts it all together.
That's what you got.
I don't know what else to tell you, man.
Like Daniel Jones coming off of a torn Achilles, I think, is cooked.
You have to treat Daniel Jones in a lot of ways
like he, treat him like you would if he was D'Andre Jones,
which is to say, you know, without his athleticism,
I don't really know if he's going to be able to get it done out here.
You know what I mean?
If he's just got to stand back there in the pocket and use his noodle.
I'm not sure that's going to be enough.
You got to treat him like DeAndre Jones.
Like, hey, man, you know, he really makes it happen because he can move.
Once he can't move.
Oh, boy, I don't know.
I think the league's going to figure him out.
Yep, you got to use all those terms when you talk about that cat.
That's what it's going to be.
And Ryan, all those things happen in the week.
And we still have tonight where the Eagles have the opportunity to be more hilarious.
haven't even gotten to them. By the way, the Rams, I know they were playing against the Arizona
Cardinals, but the Rams looked like a machine. Yeah, when they're, look good and Pooke
D'Koo was making those catches, they look unstoppable. They do. Also, for the NFC yesterday or a Sunday,
I thought was interesting. I don't know how much of Packers, um, Packers, Bears, you saw?
Decent amount. Number one, that Jordan Love is an entertaining watch. Yes. He's so fun.
I'm glad he's not my quarterback.
That would give me a heart attack.
Correct.
However, I kind of wish he was my quarterback because here's the thing.
They're going to win a Super Bowl with him.
That was a really dawned on me in watching that game.
I don't know how many of them they're going to win.
They may only really be able to pull it off once.
But they're going to win a Super Bowl with him
because he is going to have a month in the postseason once
of an absolute high-level daredevil play
where all the variance breaks on his side and it's fourth and three
and he's throwing it 30 yards down the field
and it never misses.
Like, all of those things are going to happen one time.
I don't know how you predict when that one time is going to be,
but it's going to happen one time.
I also thought that they had the Bears,
Caleb Williams had a game where I think he was better than the numbers.
And that was, you know, I'm not there yet with him.
You guys know this, right?
And I was watching the game with Parkins.
And, you know, Parkins has to believe in Caleb Williams,
because why wouldn't you do so?
Otherwise, you just inflict your own misery upon yourself.
It was a little tough.
Well, Chaddell about that tomorrow.
Yes, that's right.
That's right.
You know, watching, I left before it was time to watch Nick's team lose.
Markins handles things a little bit more smoothly.
So I was there watching his team lose.
But Caleb Williams, I didn't feel like he was getting the reg was in help.
Right.
That he needed in the course of that day.
Going back to the Packers, it would be very hilarious for them to win one sooner than
later.
and then get into the playoffs and choke repeatedly.
Like each quarterback they've had the last two years.
I mean by the last few, you mean the last 30.
I'd say this is exactly what happened with Brett Farr.
And exactly what happened with Rogers.
Roger.
Well, so what is so interesting to me is that of their three quarterbacks,
Brett Farr and Aaron Rogers are completely different archetypes, right?
Brett Fav is out here also yolo, though I contend.
Those four years of Brett Favreve, I want to call.
call it like 94 to 97.
We're quite possibly...
Yes.
They're quite possibly the best four years of football that any quarterback has had.
Because you go back and look at it and this is in that era of football where Brett
Farber's thore for like 39 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.
Yeah.
Brett Farv, right?
Like that's what he was on.
And then you get to Aaron Rogers, whose problem is he's just a little bit too cautious.
And then they got joined up.
And they ended up having the exact same career.
They did. That is crazy. And now they got Jordan Love who was like, y'all got that old thing back.
Yeah. Right, right? It's a roller coaster ride, but he is their guy. Also, shout out to you, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. How embarrassing is that that you lost to the saints.
Yeah. They've fallen apart. And your own house. Yeah. They've fallen apart. And I guess to be fair, let us not forget that their quarterback kind of has one arm right now. Now, granted, the arm he has is the one he throws with.
Yeah.
But, like, I feel like as a quarterback, your other arm is kind of like walking.
You don't think about how much you use your big toe, but it is like part of whatever part of it.
It's like when you're quarterback and you tear the ACL in the plant leg and it's worse than your lead leg.
Yeah.
Like you don't think of it that, you know, that other leg's more important.
But it turns out, yeah.
But this means that in all likelihood to Carolina Panthers are going to be in the playoffs.
You want to play that a quarterback game in the NFC that has played in the AFC?
like if this were the NBA,
they would be terrified of what the ratings are going to be.
Yeah, they'd be putting a lot of games
exclusively on the NFL network.
But I will say, though, the,
that's really funny.
The NFC quarterbacks are all interesting.
Yeah.
Or the Stafford, who's the MVP.
After he threw those two picks last week,
I was like, uptime for that Matthew Stafford regression.
Yeah.
Not this year.
Matthew Stafford is set up if he wants to,
where they could win that Super Bowl.
He could ride out like John Elway.
first ballot hall of famer
and trick these people
into put them into the Hall of Fame.
Hey man, you win an MVP
in two Super Bowls you're in.
Yeah, and then if you go,
yeah, you're right.
Like I said,
and Carson Palmer is like,
if I'd only stuck around
a little bit longer, right?
Could have been me.
Jordan Love, who is up and down.
Jalen Hertz.
We'll see you tonight.
I would love, by the way,
I would love to get Chris Sibs out here.
Did you see when he was on
with Kevin Clark and just went with,
it is not the coach's fault
at all in Philadelphia.
It is in,
entirely on the quarterback.
He is very good.
He really likes getting on one of those islands.
He's willing.
Because like everyone,
every other person we talked about this a while ago,
I think it was last week,
about how every other film person is like,
it's the scheme, it's the scheme, it's the scheme.
Yes.
But now he's like, it's no, it's the quarterback.
He's willing. He's willing.
And I have to tell you,
and you guys who ever rooted for the University of Texas
will understand,
you'll never be able to,
whoever would have convinced the 2001 version.
of me that I would like Chris Sims
this much in 2025, right? I'm not saying
he's right about all these things, but
I can write a book on like
my voyage in sports fandom
and logic. Everything I learned about
football I learned through experiencing Chris Sims.
Yeah, well, realizing like
hey man, you've got a really passionate opinion about this
person you never met before.
You might want to dial
that back a little. Are you guys the same age?
Effectively.
Yeah. Effectively.
Chris Sims, I'm probably like a couple of months older than him.
Got it, okay.
He's a high school class in 99.
Got it.
Okay.
Ask me how closely I followed recruiting back in those days.
Exactly.
Where I could do that.
But anyway, what are Baker Mayfield?
Sam Darnold, if you believe that shit.
Brock Purdy, Mac Jones, does it really matter which?
Caleb Williams.
We might get some more of that Jerry Golf.
the little homie Bryce Young.
And then outside of Dag Prescott,
quite possibly the best quarterback of the NFC this season,
Dakota Prescott.
And somehow still eligible for the playoffs, J.J. McCarthy.
This is weird quarterbackness.
Ladies and gentlemen, weird.
I don't know if it's too early to say that I was right.
I don't even know how many of you fully agree with me
that I was right because I don't think you agree with me
because you keep trying to take a problem
and make it better by doing more of the problem.
But I stood alone for decades, Ryan,
decades explaining to people that the college football playoff
was never going to be a good idea.
My argument for why I was never going to be a good idea,
largely hinged on the fact that there was never going to be a good way
to come up with a national champion in college football
because the point of this was never to name a national championship.
Okay.
The reason that college sports generally,
but really college football more than anything else exists,
is one reason and one reason only.
Vibes.
That's it.
It's fun.
It's a good time.
It makes people feel good.
but most importantly, this game began when everything was regional.
Right?
Everything was really about what was going on in your own backyard.
And I have always contended that this game is at its best and at its most enjoyable
when it is its most regional.
Now, is it logical to have a system where you determine,
a champion by having a bunch of people around the corner,
around the country vote.
It's not illogical, actually.
And the reason I say it's not illogical is that
it is no less logical than having a room full of people
sit around and vote about who gets into your little tournament
that you put together at the end of the year.
It's a different way to do it, but it doesn't make a lot more sense.
What it is, however, is perhaps just a little easier for people to wrap their minds around
because the logic of a tournament in head-to-head,
it does not tell you who a quote-unquote true champion is, nor is it especially scientific.
But it is easy to understand, right?
Hey, we beat them, now we go play another round.
Now we beat them.
We go to another round.
Okay, like everybody gets that.
But this isn't like when you have one of these tournaments
in professional sports.
And a big part of the reason why it's different
when it runs in professional sports is
the leagues are small enough
and partitioned into divisions and conferences
in such a way that all the teams play
a reasonably similar set of games.
And since they play a reasonably similar set of games,
their records are close enough to being comparable
that I can say you are 11 and 2, you are 10 and 1,
you should be ahead of that other person
because you are 11 and 2 and that team is 10 and 1.
Right?
And then if you wind up in a situation where they have the same record
and they played head to head,
and you can determine the winner,
and you can use that as a tiebreaker
because tiebreakers are always going to be to a degree,
some bit of arbitrary anyway,
but you can just go ahead and do that.
But the key to all of that was
we were working with manageable sets of information
that make it very easy to make decisions.
There was always a bit of an understanding in college sports
that you were not going to be working,
at least in a national context,
with manageable sets of information.
You weren't, okay?
So as a result, we had things like voters
and polls because that was what you needed
to make sense of what was going on.
You trusted a group of people
that you perceived to have a certain measure of expertise
and then let them vote and come up and stuff.
Now again,
they wouldn't always going to be out here
getting it right and everything else.
But all it took was somebody didn't like a little something
that somebody did, right?
And once somebody didn't like that little something
that somebody did,
now we argue about it
and now it's why do we have a playoff
everybody else has a playoff
why don't we have a playoff? They got a playoff
in Division 1-A
and it works. Why don't we have
a playoff? And I would always ask the question
man how the fuck you know what they do in
Wanda work or not? You ain't watching?
You understand what I'm saying?
Like everybody
got so caught up on this idea that it was
necessary that this was the only
legitimate way to come up
with something, right?
And now you got it.
You got the playoff that you always ask for.
And I know that it apparently, TV ratings have been good, right?
People watch all the games, so forth and so long.
I hear you there.
I'm just asking you, what has this made better?
I want you to think about something right fast.
Because I don't know how many people I've seen talk about this.
I've talked about this in this context.
and Ryan, you read these things a little bit more than I do, right?
So you feel free to let me know if I'm wrong about this.
And I think I told Man, just by you a little bit, but even still,
I contend that in a different era, even though that game was number one versus number two,
I contend Indiana, who by the way looks like Indiana when they are playing against Ohio State.
they beat Ohio State for the Big Ten championship.
As recently as I'll call it 15 years ago, maybe even 10 years ago, but let's call it 15.
I think that may have gone down as one of the biggest upsets in the history of college football.
It's up there.
Like, I don't care about what the betting line was.
I'm talking about, in effect, how many of you really thought that Indiana had an actual factual chance against Ohio State?
Right.
Indiana, like I remember what a big deal it was when Northwestern went to the Rose Bowl in 1995.
Okay?
It was giant.
All right?
Similar.
Like, the thing when I think of big upsets in college football, the first thing that jumps to mind is, is Boise State and Oklahoma in that fiesta bowl.
Yes.
Like those types of like calibers of programs going against each other and like looking the same on the field and ultimately getting the win in the end.
Yeah, but Indiana to me is the same caliber of college football program as Boise State.
Correct.
That's my point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Now, things are different now.
and they'll talk about, oh, it's NIL.
This is a bunch of dudes from James Madison.
Like, I don't think that NIL is the secret to what Indiana is doing.
This is not what Texas Tech is doing.
Right, right.
Like, I think it may have something to do perhaps with just the money the Big Ten brings in,
and it allows Indiana to then be more competitive relative to their peers or whatever.
But no, Signetti brought, he brought, you remember,
when Di I was like, I'm bringing my luggage in his Louis.
Look, um, Sygnetti was like, I'm bringing my luggage.
And boy, is it ever sturdy?
Look at the, look at the stitching on this.
It's put together so well, right?
But it's like, this, but they did this.
And I don't think that we are celebrating the fact that Indiana is the number one team in the country going into the postseason in the way that we would.
And there's no, and there's no real argument for anyone else.
No, there's none.
And look, they've only really played against two good teams this year.
But those two good teams are the number three and the number five team in the country.
And they went into one of their houses and beat them definitively.
And not only did they beat Ohio State in this championship.
game at a neutral site. It was 13 to 10. Like, Ryan, you tell me if I'm crazy, but normally you
would expect in a circumstance like this and you made, use Boise State as the example.
Trick plays. Yeah, trick plays, high variance, special teams touchdowns, but no, they got into
a needy, gritty Big Ten war with Ohio State, beat them. And beat them. And beat them, okay?
That doesn't feel like it matters that much anymore. Like, I remember when they, when they
changed the Indiana, speaking of Indiana, they changed Indiana high school basketball tournament.
And I was talking to Pat 40 about this when it happened.
This was when I was first getting to know him.
And what they did was they changed it.
The Indiana State High School tournament, if you've seen Hoosiers,
it used to just be one state champion for all the high schools in Indiana.
And then they broke it down like it is in most states.
And they have, you know, I don't know how they call it,
but 5, 8, 4, 8, 3, 8, 2A, you know, up and down the line or whatever.
And 40 told me at the time, because I was like,
oh, more kids get to be champions.
He's like, no, man, they're messing with perfection.
And what happens is in the absence of all these different champions by gradiation,
everybody was playing for something different.
Everybody had different stakes.
And so for the little schools, if you win one game, it was like winning state.
If you did this, da, da, da, da, and everything else.
But it allowed everybody else to come up with what was important to them.
And I think in large part, that's what college football had always been,
is we've got these different levels.
Going to the Gator Bowl means something for different schools.
Kansas went to the Orange Bowl one time.
You know what I mean?
That was a big enough thing.
like the ability to get to all these different places,
this was what it was, this was cool,
but we just needed a national champion
when the only winner from a true national champion
or nationalizing the consumption of college sports,
the only winners are television networks.
ESPN in particular, hold that thought, okay?
So, yeah, I think the Indiana example to me points out
how we kind of messed up something
just because it didn't make sense
even though it was a lot of fun.
we were better off in that regard.
So now we've got this playoff.
And it's going to be a 12-team playoff.
And it gets you to a committee that, all right,
talked about this many times as I've talked about the playoff and everything else.
And I'll say it again because I think it's important for everybody to understand.
All right.
The college football playoff is a package of television shows.
That's what it is.
It's a package of television shows presented to you by ESP.
and its partners in college football.
That's what it is.
They have weeks and weeks and weeks of college football ranking shows
because those are television shows,
and they take those television shows,
and then they go sell advertising against those television shows.
And every week, they put out their ratings,
and then the next day you can turn on ESPN
and you can watch their television shows, as I do,
and there will be people arguing
about the rankings. So it is a television show that then begets more television because we will now
talk about this on all of the other television shows. But the purpose of those rankings,
and this is very important as it goes along, is not really to keep you posted on the progress
of the teams or to give you any real insight or understanding into what, who is
actually going to be in the college football playoff at the end. No, sir, the purpose of those shows
are to be shows and to be television shows. The logic that they used at any point during the process
has no tie to what will happen in the end. It has none whatsoever. Now, I want to say this
to that committee, you have a borderline impossible job that you are being expected to do.
It is very, very difficult.
We know this and we understand this, okay?
However, and look, you could have gone either way on this decision.
You can't explain to me how it is that Notre Dame in Miami.
It was Notre Dame ahead of Miami, and then neither one of them played a game,
and then it was Miami over Notre Dame.
Unless you're doing a WWE-style work.
Right. By the way, they weren't doing this for cynical reasons because the cynical move is always to put Notre Dame in.
Right. So I don't, the argument that people have made is that if there was somebody between Notre Dame and Miami, like it was BYU.
You're right.
And so if BYU was in between them, then okay, but then once you put them right next to each other, then that meant you had to put, that doesn't make any sense.
Like, if you took geometry in high school, you couldn't write that proof.
right like you can't like it doesn't work there's no logic under which this makes sense now the
the Miami fan argument was we beat them head to head you beat them by three points at home in the
first game of the season that's a wash right now if you just think that this is rassling or boxing
and you want a king to the hill contest this is where we get into head to head is easy to understand
but if you think about it past the top level it gets you
gets to be a little,
uh,
right?
I don't know,
like,
put it like this.
We always say
that a three-point spread
in favor of the home team
is a pick-em.
Right.
You see what I mean?
Yeah.
Like,
like this was a pick-em.
But I'm not going to,
I think,
I ain't going to spend this
my time,
arguing about who's number 12.
It just doesn't, like,
really make any sense.
But where they mess themselves up
to me and why this job
for the committee is so difficult,
and I'm not the first person
that bring this up,
obviously.
It's the conferences are just so big
that there is no ability
to
pair records from team to team, right? Everybody plays all these different people.
They just, they just, this is how you wind up with Duke being the ACC champion because Duke
wins a tiebreaker where they're five, they got, they're a five lost team. They're tied with Miami.
They're tied with Georgia Tech. But somehow, you know, whatever the tiebreaker came down to,
it went there because remember when people were like, well, what's the point of having divisions?
The point of having divisions is so you have a common set of information that then allows you to decide these two teams in your championship.
You won this bracket. You won the, okay, cool, we then go from there.
Otherwise, this is what you end up with or you end up with Ohio State and Indiana, neither of whom really had to play anybody all year long, although Ohio State had the Texas game and the Oregon game, at least they scheduled it.
But it's all haywire.
None of it makes any sense logically in trying to put it together.
And what are we going to get out of this as a result?
If it's anything like last year, you're going to get first round playoff games that are terrible to watch because the home teams are going to kick the teeth in of the teams that they play against.
Oregon at home against James Madison, they are going to stomp them boys out.
Oh, Miss.
And by the way, what a press conference, Pete Golding.
Ole Miss and Tulane.
Right, I feel pretty confident.
Ole Miss is probably going to stop them out.
Yes.
What is it, Miami.
Texas A&M.
I think Texas A&M is going to blow their doors off.
Yes.
Like, I just don't think they're, who, who, who, boy.
Yeah, I think they're ready for Marcel Reed.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
And you want to talk about a coaching advantage.
Yes.
Elko versus Mario Cristobal.
Especially in game once the rosters are set.
Yeah, that's kind of like Bobby Knight,
looking at Dale Brown and being like, we're good.
We'll be fine.
Don't you worry about that.
And then what's the other one?
Oklahoma, Alabama.
Well, that's good for business.
Would you like me to read the text from my Alabama fan?
Sure, I would.
A friend.
And just so you know, he's black.
Winner go home game for the bore.
Can't lose the billable three times in 15 months.
That's it.
And that game's in Norman.
I guess that one has the chance to be a good one.
For sure.
That's it. But otherwise, these aren't going to be competitive games, man.
Like, that's what you got out of this. That's what you got out of this.
You were going to have, you had more fun when it was a wide range of bowls.
You had more fun when they figured out one versus two setups.
And then everybody figures something else out to play for it.
But like this, oh, everybody's got the chance to, like,
Ole Miss has a chance to play for a title. No, they don't.
They ain't playing for no title.
James Madison ain't playing for no title.
Tulane ain't playing for no title.
Um, whatever. Miami ain't playing for no title.
Let me tell you who's playing for a title.
By the way, Ryan is Indiana playing for a title?
I guess so.
I think so.
I guess so. I think so.
But Georgia.
Playing for a title.
They're playing for a title.
Ohio State playing for a title.
They're playing for a title.
Oregon.
Texas Tech, maybe.
Yeah, Oregon.
Although you know if Oregon's playing for a title, then Indiana's playing for it.
That's fair.
But either way it goes.
That's what we got.
Yeah.
We got 14th player for a title.
And if you liked having a playoff, you know what we just
had very recently a 14 playoff that might have satisfied exactly what you will look at
for. Instead, you got all of this. All right, Bo, a couple other stories from the weekend.
Shador Sanders had probably his best game as a pro for over 350 yards, four total
touchdowns. However, not in for the two-point conversion to tie. And people are mad,
Bo, what was your reaction to this?
Buddy, I feel like everything in that game,
whoever be writing that Shador script,
they got a little something for everybody now, don't they?
Yes.
I feel like I watched a decent bit of that.
He made, because he's going to hold on to the ball,
he's going to make some big plays, right?
Right.
If you don't pressure him immediately,
he's going to get, like, to throw the 60-yard TD to Judy
he's a very good throw.
Yes.
And yeah, he's going to, and he's going to, yeah, if you do not pressure him, he's going to make big
throws.
He's going to make some things happen.
But he also, like, he had the 60 yard,
now the 60 yard was the Judy.
It was the 50 yard pass to Juckins, but that was a screen.
Yeah.
Right?
Like it doesn't, he was much better in the second half in terms of like getting the ball
down the field and all of that stuff.
He's going to be their starter for the rest of the year.
They're going to take a quarterback in the first round.
Like all of those things happened.
but he did just enough to serve whatever agenda anybody has in that one.
Like the pick he threw was awful.
It was very clear that the Titans decided he's going to have to be the one to beat us.
I mean, I think Cam Ward's out there for Dolo.
Like go play a game and name that Titan.
Like go go read who he's throwing the ball over there too.
You ain't heard of none of them.
I've heard of everybody that the Browns got.
I ain't ever heard of none of these guys that the Titans are throwing to.
But you door outplayed him, right?
like there's like they played his number one pick he outplayed him um they were in it at the end and then
stepansky like if i'm not mistaken the way the two point conversions work for teams they have a
two point play they practice all week and when it comes down to it that's the one that they're
going to run and buddy stefansky that couldn't have been the two point play to two practice like
they marched that all the way down the field and you took them off the field again and then y'all
ran the play wrong that is um i'm not saying uh staph's
Fansky was sabotaging Chodor Sanders.
However,
if you wanted to...
If that was you thought,
I don't...
I don't have the camera.
I don't have...
But the problem is,
if he had put him out there
and they didn't like the play
that he called for Chador Sanders,
that would also be evidence.
Correct.
I'm sabotaged.
Like, that's what I'm saying.
This game is like every game with him
seems to be a little bit of whatever you need
or want it to be, right?
the part that Sfansky is going to have the hardest part explaining to anybody at this point is
how Dylan Gabriel got to play this many games.
And look, the people who are dismissive of the idea that Dylan Gabriel never should have started over
Sador Sanders, no, I think that's ridiculous.
Shurrador Sanders was second team, All-American last year.
First team all-American was Dylan Gabriel.
Like, I don't know why we act like these are two guys of wildly different calibers.
Like, Dylan Gabriel won everywhere that he went in college.
And look, he went a lot of places.
Yeah. Right. But at the same time, like, what was Buddy's name during the elections?
I've seen enough. Like, I don't know. I've not seen enough to say Chador is a starter or anything else.
But I've seen enough to say that he's better than Dylan Gabriel. Yes. And I don't know.
How's the Fansky answers for that.
Yeah, we went from the Philly special to the Chador scandal.
Oh, God. What is this? This. But you know what? At least it's at a place where, yeah, we could do this every week, but we only have to do it in this place.
Right, exactly. All right. So Magic and the Knicks played yesterday. A little bit of a kerfuffle between O.G. Anobi and Desmond Bain. You were in attendance for this. You said you had a funny story.
Okay. So I was right there. Frid your mind, my man, Corey, shout out to him. Had tickets to the game, invited me to come. I came to the game. All right. Our seats were literally, directly by
behind the Orlando Magic Bench.
Right.
Here's the problem with that.
My seats were directly behind a lot of tall people.
Like a lot of really tall people.
Like, he'd be wanting to be like,
hey, yo, like I had one so often.
There's one do, man.
It's like down in front.
Just kept standing up the whole game.
But it was Jonathan Isaac.
I was going to say, is he still on the magic?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I can't tell him to sit down.
But anyway, it was right there in front.
of me and I don't know what Desmond Bain was thinking. It was such a preposterous thing.
Like, it's just like he cocked. He cocked back. There was a whole fast break. Like, it wasn't like he
was about to fall out of bounds. And O.G. got up just kind of like, I don't understand what just.
Yeah, he wasn't even angry. He seemed confused. Yeah, like, it would have been different if he had heard
like Desmond Bain hit the ground after because he had jumped up in the air or something. Yeah.
No, he was just like, yo, what are you doing? And Desmond,
Bade, it was, it was wild to watch it,
wash over the magic bench who didn't all necessarily
see it when it happened.
But as they watched it on the replay, it'd be like,
yeah, that was kind of messed up.
Yeah, he shouldn't have done that.
One cat was on the bench, he was like, it's legal though.
It's legal though.
Yonkins do it, he's still throwing it's hard.
Well, kind of, you know, the, uh,
the amount of, of intensity is kind of the problem.
Yes.
It's a difference between a pat and a slap, you know?
Yeah, but there's nothing.
probably like when you're riding for your man's and then you find out your man's is 100% wrong.
And now you got to figure out what you're going to do.
What you do how we're having?
Didn't have this.
Yeah, I just, it was, it was a really strange decision by Desmond Bay.
That's the, that's the best that I got for you.
I also was right there when Franz got hurt.
And I'm lucky I didn't see that because that sounds like it was bad.
Yeah.
All right.
And finally, uh, the Diddy documentary on Netflix came out.
It was past week, executive produced by 50 cent.
You have mentioned it a couple times last week, finally watched it,
I finally watched it.
What was your biggest takeaway from the Ditty documentary?
First of all, it's excellent.
It's really good.
Like, it's a legitimately excellent piece of work.
If you have not seen it, you should see it.
We're trying to get an interview with the director.
I don't know if that's going to work out, but I'm just telling you.
We're doing something Ditty this week, so everyone should watch it.
Yes, yes.
Like, it is excellent.
And Joel from Missouri City, we're talking to you.
Watch it, because you might be a guest.
So, what is, what is,
so interesting in watching that is how abhorrent he has always been and we just didn't know it,
but it's not like you look at the old clips of him and you're like, wow, he wasn't like anything
like he was later. No, he was the exact same person. The whole way. Just, wow, terrible. Lots of
questions about different things and different people involved. Some of those questions are only
questions that I ask when nobody else is around. You know what I mean? But
I would just tell you guys this part.
And this is what I thought was the most diabolical thing.
When Puff was all up into videos, dancing,
I didn't know he was charging people for it.
Like, he was, when he was all up in,
he was stealing a shine and making them give him money for it.
Yeah, yeah.
Just a, like, a, a,
from the get-go, I am going places.
I'm stepping on every person I can get to along the way.
Yes, I can't imagine.
And I don't have any other real example of this, right?
Because like, take a guy like Master P, for example,
where to me Master P was not a rapper,
but when we heard about Master P, he was a rapper.
You know what I mean?
Like, he always led the business with his own rapping
and then, like, built a label around it,
but he always presented his rapper.
And was a better rapper than Puffy for whatever it's worth.
I cannot imagine being puffy and being like,
I'm going to start a record company,
and then I'm going to start rapping,
because that's where the shine is at.
Because he's terrible.
Ryan, you said you had to learn the hard way.
I just always assumed that, like, okay,
at least he was kind of good.
He had songs on the radio.
No.
No, no.
Awful rapper.
But you got to watch it.
Like, I'm trying not to tell you too much about it,
but the Biggie Tupac episode, it'll make you mad.
Whichever side of the Biggie Tupac you were on, it'll make you mad.
By the way, fun thing about Biggie Tupac is the years have gone on.
Nobody ever acts like they were on just one side of that.
When you were, I was there.
I was here for this period of life.
You work, right?
And whichever side you were on, the bad guy is Diddy.
Diddy is the bad guy behind everything.
Y'all need to be glad.
did he need to be glad that Shine is down there being a conservative politician in his home
and his ancestral homeland because I would have loved to heard the interviews with him.
Like it's so bad they didn't even have to talk about blowing up Kid Cutty's car.
Remember that? That happened. They said it happened. I don't know.
But anyway, no, you need to go check that out, man. It's a serious piece of work. I don't watch it twice
and I might watch it again.
All right, Bo. Voicemail lines open. A lot of good ones. Here's our first.
Hey, what's good, Bo. This is Jay from Kentucky.
Man, real quick, I was just thinking about how, you know, it's a great scene, you know, teams like Indiana and Vanderbilt, you know,
finally having, you know, solid football programs after, you know, what seems like forever.
And it got me thinking, man, I'd be pissed if I was in school like Kentucky or UNC, especially after this year.
So I guess my question is, what do you think?
which school do you think is the most pissed
that they football program
is cheeks right now,
especially with NIO and everything.
Love the show, man,
and keep doing what you doing.
I mean, look, there's a...
I mean, Ryan, it probably has to be you guys, right?
LSU.
Well, this was six weeks ago before we got...
That is true.
That's true.
We got on the late trade.
People are much happier now.
So I think, though, I need to, like,
I don't know,
in line with what my man was talking about.
Like, I feel like there's two levels of teams, right?
Like, there's the LSU type teams that are just not good right now.
And then there are the teams that are like systemically bad or systemic underachievers.
And I think those are the ones they get most upset by seeing the Indiana and Vanderbilt.
And I'm not sure anybody is more upset about being mediocre at football right now
for the reasons that we just described than North Carolina.
Oh, interesting.
I had a different top three.
Who were you thinking?
Number three, Florida State.
Oh, yeah.
Number two, USC.
Yeah.
And number one, Nebraska.
Okay.
Nebraska's interesting because I don't know what their reasonable expectations are.
You know what I mean?
Like, it'll never be what it was.
It'll never be better than what it is.
I think their expectation is maybe not what it was,
but they're watching Texas Tech BYU in the Big 12.
Well, my thing is they're like, why can't we be as good as
Wisconsin.
Right.
But as of right now,
Wisconsin also stinks.
Right.
But with North Carolina,
so I think that those schools
you describe,
I guess generally speaking,
yeah, I all did tier one types of things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but I guess what I'm saying is this.
I think they are all very upset
about being mediocre, right?
But not because they look at Vanderbilt
and are like, yo,
what about us?
Right.
I think North Carolina,
they look at Vanderbilt,
right?
They look at Indiana,
especially any time it's a football, a basketball school, right?
They look at them and they're like, okay, now we have no excuse.
Right.
Florida State looks at that and they're just even more offended.
But North Carolina is like, so what's wrong with us, huh?
Like at least Florida State got like a proof of concept.
Yeah.
They have reason to believe that it can be something.
North Carolina's like, oh, so we went and hired the greatest football coach
in the history of Earth.
And we still stink.
And we still, Eddie, out here embarrassing us.
All right, here's our next one.
Hey, Momani, this is Ron in Tennessee.
I'm a long time listener, long live,
the morning Jones.
Hey man, I got a question for you.
I'm a Dahlhaer Lakers fan, by the way.
So take that as an aside.
But why do we keep saying that Ty Lou is such a great coach?
It's never his fault.
The last five years,
the clippers with all the talent that's gone back and forth
and all the different manufacturing of these dream rosters
and everything else,
I think they have one 50-win season in the last five years.
Maybe this is a loss of a while.
Maybe this is the Western Conference finals in 2020 once.
They've not won shit.
I lose always a great coach, especially given the fact that's how he just unceremonically told Chris Paul, as you put it, to call us by wrong.
And they're 5 and 16 this year.
Why does he always get a pass?
Why do we always say he's such a great coach and he ain't dead?
is shit. Go Lakers.
Appreciate you, my money.
One of my favorite things
about Lakers fans in the last
we'll call it 15 years, right?
I remember that year when they had Dwight Howard
and they had to like scrape to make it to the playoffs.
I used to send out a hashtag called
This is Who You Are Now
because they used to get on teams
who were just happy to go to the playoffs
and then they was on Twitter
all happy about going to the playoffs.
And I was like, this is who you are now.
Like, Lakers fans have become different people than they used to be because circumstances have changed.
Like circumstances change men, men don't change circumstances.
I forget what book I read that in.
But it's a great point.
That's a great line.
Right, right.
Anyway, so the Lakers who did change.
And they will never believe the clippers are their rival.
But they are much more concerned with explaining why the clippers are not their rival than they used to be.
than they ever were before, right?
And so this is in my, one of my favorite subsets is Lakers fans talking down on the Clippers,
even though the, and I guess I would say the Clippers have definitely been a better team
in the last 10 years, except the Lakers do have that championship.
I do.
Right?
They do have that.
But to add, it is a fair question for you to ask.
I do think that Lou is a good coach.
I don't know how much of this is his fault, but don't you worry, buddy.
He'll be getting some blame.
I'm shocked they haven't fired him yet.
Five and 16 gets you fired.
I think they have other things going on.
They do.
I think one thing that helps Ty Lou is he's never being the biggest culprit.
You could always blame Kauai.
You can always blame.
So like, whenever you're not the worst issue,
sometimes you manage to escape by.
Yeah, I think that is probably the best way for us to put this.
I do think it is fair to say that there is a measure of,
there's some skating going on.
There's some skating.
All right.
Here's our last one.
What's up, Omani?
I just heard the podcast.
And somebody was talking about the first time they took a walk with a cousin.
I remember the first time I took a walk with my cousins,
because it was a group of us.
We was in Yosemite National Park.
And I don't know what we was going for either.
I thought always was walking because we was at a campsite.
and we walk in, we're walking, and then they pull out, like, oh, okay, this is what we're doing?
Oh, I didn't know we was doing this, and on the way, we got lost on the way back to the campsite.
And good thing we got lost, because if we made it back exactly what we were supposed to,
we would have ran into a bear, and we came back about 90 seconds later,
and my family is running around screaming for their life
and was like, what happened? What happened? It was, oh!
Y'all don't see that bear?
Nope. Sure didn't.
Because we got lost on the walk with my cousin.
Corday from the bay.
Ryan.
First of all, that is an amazing story.
I just want to, I don't know what. Y'all would have had to take another walk
if y'all would have, like y'all got some left, right?
if y'all had encountered DeBear.
But I'll feel bad about asking this question,
not even in front of Ryan.
He said, he, Corday from the Bay,
said they was at Yosemite.
And I'm like, brother, was you adopted?
I saw that look on your face.
It was on your face too.
You just get to listen to these for the first time in private.
True.
I was like, huh, you guys were, okay, okay.
You know, West Coast, y'all a little different.
I don't even know, okay, I got you.
I got you.
Groups can mix.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a, that's a serious, serious story.
I just want to, I want to know what it's like when y'all got back to the bank
and explained to the other black people that y'all ran up on a bear after y'all
and took a walk in Yosemite.
I told y'all not to go out there.
Or it's this, my man, hey, man, I told y'all not to go out there, man.
You know, like maybe, oh, my God, that was, that, wow, that was absolutely.
amazing. Thank you, Corday from DeBay. You, you, you really made my day better with that story.
Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this three
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