The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Danny Parkins on Caleb Williams' future, Justin Herbert's talent, Bill Belichick disaster | 10.10

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

Bomani Jones is joined by 'First Things First' co-host Danny Parkins. They start by discussing Caleb Williams and debate his potential for success as the quarterback of the Chicago Bears. Later, they preview the Chargers' matchup against the Miami Dolphins and talk about why Justin Hebert is the ultimate eye test quarterback. After the break, they discuss Jonathan Gannon being fined by the Cardinals and the disastrous situation unfolding between Bill Belichick and the UNC Tar Heels. 00:00 - Introduction 01:30 - Danny's friendship with Nick Wright 04:30 - Caleb Williams vs. Jayden Daniels 17:40 - Justin Herbert vs. Tua 37:15 - Jonathan Gannon: Coaching for his job? 51:45 - the Bill Belichick disaster Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is Danny Parkins Friday, a new variety of Friday that we got over here.

Danny Parkins, check them out on FS1. First things first, five to six Eastern on FS1. What's going on, sir? chilling, Bo. I was looking through old text messages. First time I came on this show, I was previewing the AFC West for you when I was doing radio in Kansas City like 11 years ago. How long have you been doing this thing? Okay. So this incarnation of it I have been doing as a podcast now. This is the eighth year. That was the radio era which started in 2015, I want to say. So yeah, we are in. year 11. Yeah. So I'm a year, I'm a year one guest. That's right. See, okay, we got some day ones in the house. There's also fun overlap. I like to tell people this because by and large, the people that I have on this show are my friends who just happen to be dope. Like, we make new friends along the way. Like you guys really like Deaite Lee from the ranger. We're going to have him on more with the show.

But Danny went to college with Nick, very close with Nick. And another fun fact to show the overlap of it, Danny's brother worked with my brother in the textbook industry. That is 100% true. And I finally got on a text chat with your brother recently. We might tee it up and play some golf one day. But yeah, I know you and your brother are very close. Me and my brother passed away a couple of years ago. But, you know, he was my best friend.

And so the interconnections is crazy. And then I know also Lefko, who was between me and Nick at Syracuse. you know him and I watched like 20 consecutive NFL Sundays together and had a great time in college. Yeah, I tried to crash you guys group chat only to find out that it was for wagering. It wasn't really. It's mostly gambling. It's mostly gambling with like a side amount of like criticizing people in media behind their bad.

Like I was feeling left out. And then I got there and realized, oh, y'all don't, you all don't want, I don't belong. I need to go back with my kind. Okay. I get this. But, hey, but you play Blackjack now. That is true. I do play Blackjack.

There's just not a lot to talk about in there. Like, Lefco, like, the fun part for me with Lefcoe was when I went down to Atlanta to do an alt-cast for TNT. And that was the most time I spent with Lefco. And I realized, oh, you and Nick are the same person. Yeah. I misunderstood. Like, you guys got rolled off the factory, like the same factory lie. Yeah, exactly.

The Black Wives Club, they like to call it. Yeah, and Lefco, he has a superpower of likeability. Yes. Is how I describe him. Like, in college, he was like not nearly as serious in the student media stuff as Nick and I was. Like, he was like much more fun and social and friends with everybody. And then he put together his TV resume reel, like the week before he graduated.

He just was like faking television standups all over campus because he hadn't been like doing the work. And I was like, this guy's going to be awesome. I didn't sell a single share of Lefco stock because every single person that meets him just loves them. Brother, I walked into the bar of the four seasons in Atlanta at closing time with Adam Lefco. And it was like Norm pulled up. Hell yeah. Like he's the king of this.

But hey, we got a lot of NFL action this week. I actually just realized something that is going on in two different games that really may be the most interesting thing that we've got going on this weekend. Like there are games with teams that have good records. If the 49ers are playing against the Buccaneers, of course, we have America's team playing against the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday. And I normally don't stay at Nick's house late for night games, but I'm, don't tell them, but I'm pulling up into Barry Sanders jersey on Sunday because, you know, like, we're gone. I got my, my squads in the game.

But we have a ghost of, it's not even the ghost of Christmas past weekend. It's a what could have been weekend because there are two games with teams. who have quarterbacks, where they will be playing against a team who has the quarterback, they could have drafted and perhaps wish that they had. Okay. I will start with the one that is most germane to your life as you are from Chicago. You are Chicago Bears fan. And your guys are playing against the Washington Commandos,

and you could have had Jayton Daniels. Instead, you got Caleb Williams. Though I am inclined to make the point slash raise the argument that the problem in this case is, who could the bears take and it not go bad, given if they ain't had a good quarterback since. And I know, look, it sounds corny to say it, but it's the truth. It goes back to Sid Luckman.

Yeah, that's right. I mean, so I turned 39 in a couple of weeks, and I've never seen a good quarterback. Like, the-you didn't even get McMahon. Right, exactly. I didn't get McMahon. I got Jay Cutler, and Jay Cutler, when they acquired him,

I was like, this is unbelievable. And then when he left, he was the exact same guy that they acquired. But he was, he did not get one percent better. It was just the same like back foot interceptions, maddening arm talent and nothing between the years. Eric Kramer had a nice season. Justin Fields had some sick runs and that's about it. And, yeah, like, hold on.

You forgot about Rex. Rex, I think, had to be the worst one because the best of Rex Grossman was actually excellent. Yeah, Rex was frustrated. And Rex was on a team that was all, like, Devin Haster was basically my favorite bear. Like, most, until Fields came along, it was like, oh, that's the most exciting bear with a football in his hands of my entire life. Because, again, I didn't get Walter Payton. Right. And so, yeah, I mean, I love that team, obviously.

But, like, that was, like, a classic Bears team that you could relate to, like, your elders with. Because it was like, we don't got a quarterback, but we have an unbelievable defense. You got Peter Tillman and Erlacher and Briggs and the whole thing, Mike Brown, the whole thing. but I am fine with Caleb. I'm still excited about Caleb. I thought that Drake May was the debate with him in. I didn't believe in Jaden, and I'm clearly wrong, but like coming out of it,

I thought it was totally reasonable to say that the kid that had been the best at every level of football that he had played in, who won the Heist Win trophy, who could throw the ball over the mountain. I thought it was totally reasonable to be like, yeah, that's the guy I want. And I think the debate, I don't know if you agree or not, but like, I think it's long from settled on who the best quarterback in that class is. Like, Jaden came out and laughed the field in year one. I would argue the best rookie quarterback season I'd ever seen when you factor in what he was asked to do, third downs, fourth downs.

And then nine wins in one score games going all the way to the NFC championship game, the clutchness, all that stuff. Like, he was amazing. but 10 years from now, I'm not convinced he's going to be the best quarterback in that class. I don't think that discussion's over yet. I mean, Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald are good now. Dude, I don't know how you- Hold on, Daniel Jones appears to be good now. Yeah, yeah.

And I will say this for Bears fans, the one thing we have in the quarterback, like, arc of pain is that we don't, we've just, just like never had anyone good. Like no one's left Chicago and then become good. We've just like never had hope ever. Whereas Jets fans got to be like Darnold and Gino and like Cleveland fans. That's a good boy. We had Baker. Like no like Mitch Trubisky didn't go to Buffalo and like make it a debate with Josh Allen. You know what I mean? Like Justin Fields is still Justin Fields taking the same terrible sacks that he took in Chicago. So like I don't know if that makes it better or worse because we. We've just never been close to having the guy.

So the one thing I've always thought about Justin Fields with Chicago that I think had to be torturous for Bears fans. And I make this point here a lot that you have to appreciate the fact that Chicago's, one Chicago home team is the entire Big Ten. And so that means that you have a city full of people that Justin Fields ate their asses up for two years. And so hell yeah, give us that guy. Like they were, they were all on board with it.

And then it's like, sigh, right? And he seems to be, I would say, a serviceable NFL quarterback, right? Like he is in full on journeyman status. And again, maybe he gets good because it is not really as though he has left and wound up in the best places for quarterbacks since he got out of Chicago, right? With Williams, I feel like you have the right attitude, sir. There's no reason to be impatient about this. This is what you got at least through next year in all likelihood. Like, I don't think that they're in a place where next year that they'll make a move like what the Colts did where they brought somebody in to take the job away from Anthony Richardson.

I don't think that's going to happen. You might as well just buckle up for this because how good he is right now actually doesn't matter. We've seen guys be decent in years one and two and then three or four. It doesn't go. Case in point, Baker Mayfield. Like everybody on the, oh man, the Browns gave up on Baker Mayfield. All of us gave up on Baker Mayfield.

What are you talking about? He went to two other places that were like, no, I'm good. They got an actual goddamn genius. down there in Los Angeles. And he was like, hey, man, appreciate what you did for us, though. But we're going to go get Matthew Stafford. Right. I mean, Baker got four full years in Cleveland. Like, four years. Now, you want to play off game and obviously it's aged poorly for them, but he got plenty of opportunities. And listen, we've watched a football together. You're like, I watch it all. I watch it all. And I'm not saying that like some sort of genius gifted eye scout talent or

whatever, but like, I do trust my eye test. Caleb Williams is awesome. Like, the physical tools of Caleb Williams in there somewhere is an elite quarterback. And that's why they hired Ben Johnson and gave him 10 million plus per year to get it out of him. I don't know if you will. But like, that, what I always say is the most impressive quarterback season I've ever seen was 2011. Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers that year was 45 touchdown, six interceptions, completed 68% of his passes, but also led the NFL in yards per attempt. Like, he was not just checking it down for his complete. He was big game hunting and not turning the ball over. It was unbelievable. You could say Mahomes is 5,000 yard 50 touchdown season, but like to me, that type of player that doesn't

turn the ball over that has a rocket for an arm that has plus athleticism and mobility and is not just looking to like Goose's completion percentage with little checkdowns, but is willing to throw second and third level throws. To me, that's the highest ceiling of quarterback play that you can get. It's Mahomes. It's Allen. It's what I think Herbert is. And it's what Rogers was. And Rogers is Caleb's favorite player ever. It's who he emulates his game after. So like, I'm seeing this one through to the end. Yeah, I want to say, I got something wrong. They, the rams had brought Baker in that year because I think Stafford had gotten hurt and they needed a stop gap. So yeah, that was the year he played on like, like 72 hours

notice or something. Yes. Yes. Yes. So my bad, it was the Carolina Panthers. Now, Grant, I don't know who could have been. They were they were cheeks that year. My goodness, they were so bad. But the arc goes. And I would, if I, if I were you, what's the alternative? Like, if you're watching college football right now, who's the guy that you're seeing where you're like, oh, okay, cool, we could do that. Like, we found out as much as people bugged out when the Falcons took Michael Pennix last year, the point was there's nobody in this draft, and it doesn't look like there's anybody in next year's draft that's going to be there. Like, we're in a weird quarterback place.

I've talked about this before where there was this giant gap. between really like 2005 and I'm not even sure exactly when we'd say it really rounds out. Maybe you're getting like 16, 18 or whatever where this country just didn't produce a lot of quarterbacks. Like you had really good old quarterbacks and you had really good young quarterbacks, but really not that much in between. So like Mahomes and Baker Mayfield are both 30 years old at this point. Guys older than them that are good, the list ain't long.

man like it's not there and now it's looking like we're looking at who's coming up from these lower low where's the guy right listen i think i think i think calip's class is really good um yeah it's an interesting like guys older than mohams dac like i don't know where you are on dac but i think dac is playing at a very high level i think he's playing at a very high level right now and then yeah you get to guys that are much older like stafford and all of that so yeah it's it's hard but i will also just say and i don't know where you're at on this like i have no doubt that Caleb Williams is good. Like, I think bust is off the table with Caleb.

Ooh, I do not. I do not. Man, last year, they fired his play caller nine games then. They did. They did. The bears had never in the history of their franchise fired a head coach in season. And then they fired Matt Eber Fluse in season. He, they lost to the Lions on Thanksgiving because Eber Fluse forgot that he was.

was allowed to call timeouts. They lost one of those games to the Packers because a field goal was blocked when the Packers like cheated the pass rush and the league just didn't call it. And afterwards they're like, eh, my bad, probably should have called it. Lost a game in overtime to the Vikings where he had 340 yards and two touchdowns and scored 27 points. They just happened to lose. Like, he's not bad. He's not bad. And I think he's been getting better over the course of this year. There will be rough moments because it's the bears and that's inevitable, but like, Caleb is going to be fine. Now, he might end up being, um, it might end up being like a Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence situation, like,

where the Bears give him a second contract because the talent is too tantalizing and then he never ultimately realizes the potential. But like moving on in a year, like after next year from Caleb and not giving him a second deal, I'll be floored. I will be absolutely floored if that happens. Hose the ball to. long and that's a that's a me thing right yeah like guys who hold the ball that's the justin field's thing holds the ball a little too long then when when the the the the the steelers at justin field and russell wilson on the same team i was like oh boy you're going to hold the ball too long and every plate now you know who else holds the ball too long Josh allen the problem is nobody

can tackle that big bloop that's right that's like that's he is the only he he Dude, he holds it too long. He'll give you, he's in the Stafford, Carlson Palmer. I'm going to give you one or two chances to pick this off, except nobody ever does. Yeah, that's my thing on Jordan Love. I'm like convinced that Jordan Love should lead the league in interceptions. It's like a horseshoe up his ass every time they just dropped these picks. No, let's say the Caleb last year took 68 sacks.

That's impossible. Yeah. And the next gen stat that I did not know, even though I watched every snap of that season. and it felt this way, but I just had never dug into the numbers, but they showed it on the first or second game this year on one of the broadcasts. 27 of those sacks took more than five seconds. I bet you Peyton Manning didn't take 27, five plus second sacks in his entire career. His life.

That is an impossibility in one football season. But again, like, that's why Ben Johnson is here to get that out of him. And I will say a significant improvement in a way, sacks are a quarterback stat, right? Like I'm a firm believer in that. 68 and 17 games last year and four games, it's been seven. Yeah. That's still a few more than you would prefer. But that's a lot better than what we were talking about.

Oh, yeah. And like plenty of guys. I mean, now with how much you're dropping back to pass, like, you know, listen, I said before the year, get below 50. And I would be, and you're like for year two in terms of improvement, like at least then you're more in the like Joe Burrow. Like just be the fifth most sacked quarterback in the NFL. Right. Just don't be two standard deviations beyond the second place guy for most sacks. And I think he's trending in that direction.

Now, another one of these games of what it could have been, I didn't realize that the charges were playing against the dolphins. and this could be the end for somebody, right? So apparently Tua is not healthy, and I have a certain respect for that young man that stops me from saying, oh, so now you're feeling a little bit hurt with the Justin Herbert game is coming up. Hey, I don't think he that kind of guy, right?

Like, I don't think he got that in them. But there's some people that I would ask that question about under these circumstances, because, I mean, for those of you who don't know, Parkinson's is a bit of a Justin Herbert apologist. Yeah. That's the appropriate term to use. Badge of honor.

But the dolphins definitely wish they had taken him over to it. That's a no-brainer situation. I don't think, that was what was so crazy about when the Browns took Dylan Gabriel in the third round. I thought that after Tua, the league was out on these small-armed quarterbacks. I thought that we had understood. Like, I personally can't imagine my ass being on the line for a pick and I'm going to get to do that don't throw hard. Exactly.

Now, like, I guess people are like Brock Purdy, just like, can you be a processing, post-snap analysis, smart guy? I want the guy who can throw it over the mountain. Right? And I, yes, Herbert Stan, Apologist. I like Matt Stafford. I like big armed quarterbacks, man, because they can make every throw on the field. And again, it's an eye test thing.

And by the way, the NFL GMs seem to agree with me. Like those anonymous polls that like the athletic and ESPN puts out before the year, scouts, GMs, coaches rank the quarterbacks. Herbert is ahead of Jalen Hertz on all of them. He's light years ahead of Tua on all of them. He was like seventh, sixth, ninth. He hasn't won like that. He hasn't produced like that. But if you were starting a team tomorrow,

and I know this is like Kevin Wilds on First Things First, he hates these arguments, but he's not here. So let's do it. Like, if you were starting a team tomorrow, first pick, Mahomes, second pick, Alan, third pick, Lamar.

With the fourth pick in the draft, Bomani Jones selects. Who, boy, that's a tough question. I mean, it's on the board that it's her, over Burrow. It is my Burrow point always is and this is not his fault

but I've never seen him play without some form of the Avengers alongside of him. That is the only one. The thing with Burrow obviously is I've never seen him blow a 70 point lead in a playoff game to the Jacksonville Jack bars.

Yeah, that was bad. That was that was a toughie. That was a tough one. That was bad. Like whether you take Jaten Daniels over him, I still have a twinge, yeah, just a little, yeah, you know what I mean? A little small. Just to touch it, yeah. Right.

I understand why you would take Justin Herbert over the leader of America's team, the Detroit Lions, who has been to a Super Bowl before, became very, came very close to another Super Bowl. Now, you mentioned Jordan Love. Yeah. I'm a, I. You're a love guy. I see the vision. I see the other thing, too. It is amazing, by the way, how all of us can pick one of these quarterbacks

who does shit like that and just decide that that's ours for whatever reason. Like, look, I'm with you. The guy to get throwing over the mountain, I'm still holding out hope on Anthony Richardson. I still think there's time for somebody to figure this out. There is time. He hasn't played enough. I mean, he hasn't played a full season's worth of games. No.

Yeah, yeah. So there's definitely time on the. Anthony Richardson, but also, like, with Herbert, man, he still holds the record for most touchdown passes as a rookie. He came in and put 31 on the board as a rookie. And Shane Steichen was that offensive coordinator. And Shane Steichen seems to be a pretty damn good coach. And it's been, you know, he's had Anthony Lynn as a head coach. He's had Brandon Staley as a head coach. Now he's had Harbaugh. He had Joe Lombardi. He had Kellan Moore. Now he's got Greg Roman. Like, there's been a lot of institutional change around him and not to mention the chargering stuff and bad injuries around

them and missed kicks and all of the stuff. And this dude just, he ain't the problem. Like I'm just, I'm convinced that he isn't the problem there. And we can't, we can't take a hypothetical world and put Justin Herbert in Philadelphia and put Jalen Hertz in L.A. But man, for a week, I'd love to see it because I don't think A.J. Brown and DeVante Smith would be complaining. Like, I just, I just, at some point I have to trust my eyes and be like, he's one of those dudes. He just, and eventually he will get there. So you just rate what could be a very fun game to play. Like, remember when Michael Parsons, stupid ass is getting on his podcast and

listen to top five quarterbacks and didn't list his own guy. Yeah. Like, I dare somebody to go to that Eagles locker room and play that same game with those two dudes. Of course. There's no, there's no way. if you injected them with truth serum that they think he's a top five guy. Maybe he's a top five leader. Fine. Maybe he's a top five teammate. Fine.

Top five runner. Fine. But I like my quarterbacks to throw. I'm old-fashioned. He was 22nd in the NFL and pass attempts last year. Hertz was like, get out of here. Did you see they had the players only beaten with A.J. Brown, Sequo Barkley, and J.ler Hertz.

And I have to say, why wasn't anybody else invited? I absolutely. Like, Devante Smith has the same amount of gripe that A.J. Brown has. And by the way, grapes are just as much. Yeah,

you know, absolutely. Just like a little quieter about it, but like frequency is just as much. And he's not as good as A.J. Brown. But he's damn good. Like, he also should feel like throw me the damn ball.

So yeah. Well, he also had to do more to get there. You know what I mean? No question. Like, do you have any clue what I had to do to? get here. I don't think you do. Throw me the goddamn ball.

Throw me the goddamn ball. But yeah, so I, I just, to the Tua thing, like, I don't think that Tua would be the type of guy to back out of this game either, but also they've both been paid. Makes it easier to be like, yeah, my team got it wrong, but I got $200 million. So who cares? I'm just saying, I've talked about this throughout the year, that the dolphins don't have a buy until week 12, right? which to me, the coaches getting nervous about losing their jobs at a buy.

Right? Because, you know, you want to have a little extra time to get everything going. They've already gotten through their Thursday night game. That is also another time that people like to fire their coaches. However, if the dolphins come out here under the circumstances that I just described and get smashed at home in a game where, by the way, the chart is only a three and a half point favorite, right? Right. So this isn't a game that Miami should get their doors blown off. If they get their doors blown off, those are the games that get people fired.

I agree with you. In Miami, though, if I was ranking, like there's a big three in every organization, coach GM quarterback. If I was ranking problems for the dolphins, coach is third. Yeah. Coach is third. Like Chris Greer has been there 20 plus years. Oh, wow. That's, now, not as the GM, but like still.

Yeah, but I think GM for the last nine, yeah, he's, he's been a front office executive for the Dolphins for literally over two decades. And he's the dude who drafted Tua over Herbert. And McDaniel, what's in, an indictment of him to me is that when Tua goes down, no one else can run the offense. Like, whereas I saw Matt LaFleur have Jordan Love go down and Malik Willis come in and win a couple of games. Right? So like, I'm not sitting here saying that Mike McDaniel is a top five, top 10 coach. I don't know that that to be true. In fact, overwhelmingly likely it isn't.

But he also got Tua to lead the NFL in scoring. Like they have had moments of excellence offensively that I am not. The game I watched a couple of weeks ago of them, I forget what the exact number was, but Tua completed like 11 or 12 passes. behind the line of scrimmage. And they put up a big number offensively. Like he, he's doing a lot with a guy who cannot throw the ball very far. And so I, if Mike McDaniel is a run game coordinator for a team next year, like that's a great hire.

And I think there's a legitimate argument to say, let's fire the GM, move on from the quarterback as quickly as possible, which is going to be really tough given his contract for next year. and like let Mike McDaniel actually pick a quarterback who's got a skill set more attuned with modern NFL offense. But again, what quarterback is this that we're talking about here? Right. For sure. Right. Like this is for sure. I'm just going to, it is so wild to me that with all the resources that are now,

people can talk about quarterbacks are terribly coached position down on everything else. No, I think quarterback's just really hard. Yeah. But with all the resources that are being devoted to football at this point and how early kids start in doing this. and their quarterback is like the new violin where rich people get the kids out here, anybody else when they're three years old and go up and up and you still can't make more of them, right?

Like I am of the belief. I'm curious what you think about this. Still nothing matters more than physical endowments. That's part of why I hold out hope on Richardson, for example. Yes, there's obviously a huge skill component to this. But I watched Josh Allen walk into this league and could not hit the broad sign of fobards. now look at it.

All because he, that guy. If you could tell me that they had any idea how to scout what was between the ears of Peyton, Brady, and Breeze, then I'd listen to the argument on the other side of it, but they clearly can't. Like those types of quarterbacks failed just as much as the crazy athletic, tratesy guys, physical endowments to use your phrase. Like, so yeah, of course, like, give me the guy that can run away from Micah Parsons. Yes.

Give me the guy that, like, I can use all the routes for A.J. Brown, because I can throw a 15-yard out. I can throw a post. I can throw a dig. Like, you know, like, of course, like, because we at least can scout those things. We clearly cannot scout the post-snap processing. And they try to, the S-2 test.

and all that nonsense. But they're clearly so far away from being able to scout that, that yeah, give me the guy that runs a 4-4-40 and can throw the football 98 miles an hour. Well, a great example on that.

We will go back and look at the 2011 draft is one of the all-time great drafts. Oh, yeah. And when you go through it, I can name, like off the top of my head, I can give you four or five Hall of Famers, right? Von Miller, J.J. Watt, Richard Sherman, Patrick Peterson.

Julio Jones is probably going to wind up making it. And then you have other guys. Like Robert Quinn is in that draft. The Pouncy Brothers, right? It was just an incredibly loaded draft. Like even some almost, like Alden Smith, he could have held his shit together. Like what it would have started to.

Cam Newton. Yeah, I'm saying that's where we're getting to. Another one of those cams. I can't remember if it was Hayward or Jordan. I think it's in that draft also. But you redo that draft, you still take Cam Newton, who was out there running a high school offense.

Yeah, that's right. But when everybody shows up and that guy says he's a quarterback, that's the guy we're taking in this draft. Yeah, no, you're right. Yeah, Cam Newton won. AJ Green 4. Yes. Patrick Peterson 5, Julio Jones 6, Alden Smith, 7. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty, that's, it's pretty. Yeah, and Cam Jordan was 24th. Oh, man. In the first 12 picks, the only bust were the quarterbacks that people tried to pretend might have been as good as Cam Newton. Yeah, Jake and Blaine Gabbard. Yes. Yeah.

And Christian Ponder. Yeah. Yes. Like Ryan Carrigan just hanging out in this draft, right? There's Cam Jordan. Mark Ingram. Oh, Cam Hayward was in this draft. My fat, fault, it was both of the camps.

All three camps. Yeah, there's Colin Kaepernick and Andy Dalton just there at the top of the second round. Like, this was an incredible draft. And Cam Newton is not going to make the Hall of Fame. But damn it, if you redo that draft, there is no question who I'm taking number one. And it's that guy. Yeah. I'm with you.

Guy went 15 and 1, won an MVP, and carried Carolina to a Super Bowl. Like, yeah, I'll run it out there. And because, again, like, what if Cam Newton got Sean McVeigh? Right, right? Like, who the hell knows? Like, what if Cam Newton got Kyle Shanahan? Like, it just doesn't seem fair that Brock Purdy gets Kyle Shanahan. Well, it's not fair because that's what Kyle wants.

Right. Kyle's like, give me a bum who don't talk back. but then he traded up for Trey Lance. I will never. He traded three first round picks like six weeks before the draft to move up from 13 to three and then took Trey Lance.

I'll never understand it. While entertaining the possibility of taking Matt Jones with the number three picket. I don't think Kyle has any actual idea what he's doing when it comes to quarterback. It makes he is all over the place. It is so crazy when he does and does

not do. And with Trey Lance, look, he helped to break Robert Griffin. I think that he is complicit in how that ultimately went. Yeah. And it looked like he helped to break Trey Lance because we saw Trey Lance with just a dollop of hardball on him and was like, hey, man, like, that one I think is working in a Darnalty sort of way. I mean, Trey Lance played like four games. Yes. For San Francisco. And then they're like, yeah, he's not the guy. We're going to just, we're going to ride it out with Mr. Irrelevant. I was like, really? Well, Another thing, too, Kyle did with Robert and Kyle did with him is a quarterback who can run is not a running back. Right.

Like you can't be out here running. He's out here running power. Yeah. With Trey Lance. What are you doing? No. The, the, the, the, you want that to be your slider, right? Yes.

You, you work off your fastball, right? Caleb runs around, but he's not a running quarterback, right? Like, Rogers and Mahomes were, they can run around, but they're not running quarterback. Now, Josh Allen, to your point, he's a polar bear. So you can run power with him and I'm not going to be that upset. But he had never run. I've said this on this show. So I don't know if you remember when people used to say that I called him Jahim, Alan.

And the truth is, I did not call him Jahim, but I noticed. I always said that if his name was Jahim, he'd have been used much differently before he got. And you look at it now, it still looked like he had never run with a football before he got to the NFL. But they started putting them Jaheen plays in there. And that's when it started making sense. Those first two years, they weren't really doing that. Once they started putting them on the move, and there's no way that no big old black galute would have ever come out here

and not been running the ball like that. It just took them forever to do the math on it. Then Kyle looks at Trey Lance. It was like, no, no, we're not going to run around. We're going to run, get your nose in there, son. What? Yeah. Do you think when they made that trade that they knew who they were taking?

Because if you go back and look at it, it's also one of the earliest trades ever, like in terms of a, and I think it might be the earliest, like, in terms of like all the, so it's like, I think they didn't know. I think they're like, we're just taking a quarterback and we're going to move up and we're going to scout. And they took the kid from the FCS and then didn't give him any time. Who didn't, who didn't play any games that year.

Right. Because that's the weird. That's the, the, the 2021 draft is always going to be a weird one because it is that one off of COVID where all these guys like Rasha Slater and Michael Parsons, who didn't not play that year, walked in and it was all good. All those quarterbacks who did play that year, none of them have gone as well as we expected Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Trey Lance. It's a weird job. Also, Jamar Chase did not play that year and then kicked in the door when he got to the league. It's wild stuff. But coming up next, we got a couple of coaches

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I logged on to that space. I was like, is that the Hizman trophy? Yeah, that was something my grandfather gave me way back in the day. Your grandfather won the Hizman? He did not, but it's a little, a collector of sorts. Yeah, here's the thing about my, and I haven't seen your place, I'm sure it's lovely. I will confirm my place is lovely. I am renting.

I cannot afford to own my house, but I can afford to live in my house. And when I moved my wife and young family across the country out of our dream home, in Chicago. I wasn't about to downsize. And so I'm living above my means here, Bo, this TV thing better work out. When you get here, you learn. Like, oh, man, you got to really be invested in this.

Dude, why is the guacamole so much more expensive here? Like, it is outrageous. Yeah, let me tell you where they're getting in our pockets on things that they're just like, since they hear they're going to pay for it. Salads. Dude. Have you looked at the prices of salads on a menu at a sit-down restaurant? And guys, I'm not, I feel like you guys who are listening to this are relating to me. I have this difficult thing, Danny, where I like to talk about my life here, but I have to be honest in the ways that my life is not necessarily like other people's lives. And some of they broke asses be getting mad about that. But I'm really just trying to make sure that it. But if I act like it ain't like that, they're going to get mad too and tell me that I lost touch or whatever, right? Yeah, you're in a, you're in a tough spot. But you've also.

been doing this at a high level for a long time and have no kids. So like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you get it, right? You get it. But I'm just saying just a restaurant where you might take somebody, right, where you would put on some nice clothes, perhaps, and take somebody to go to this restaurant. They are operating on the assumption. Now that you're here, you're just going to pay for it, right? Like you're not going to get up and leave. It's $15 for salads. And it ain't got no meat in it. It's just got Roughage. Bo, go to like sweet green or just salad. Get a salad to go.

Like you don't have to be at a steakhouse where you dress nice. If I get a chicken Caesar salad and yeah, that has meat in it, fine. But if I, whatever, get your kale salad from just salad. It's 1349 plus tax. Yo, that's what I'm saying. I didn't even talk about going to the steakhouse, right? Right. Like every time I look at a salad price now, my question is the same.

can this be shared? Because there's no way in hell I'm eating $15 worth of salad by myself. It's an outrage. It's nuts. It's at every, it is at every turn. Now I understand,

nobody wants to be honest about this, but the truth is, let us don't pick yourself, right? Yeah, I'm just saying, I don't think we want to get into it. That's part of it, right? That's a part of the discussion. But they just trying to beat us over the head

for everything. Speaking of beating people over, a head. It wasn't so much a head beating that took place, but we had this situation with the Arizona Cardinals in the game that they gave away to the worst team on Earth. Just totally gave away to the worst team on Earth. Yeah. And I forget Buddy's name. His name is not that important. The running back? Yes. Amari DiMarcardo. Great job. That's how I know. That's how I know you do TV shows and rundowns and notes packets. Five days a week, buddy. So he is a week. So he is a is running down the field. I'm sure most of you've seen it, but if you haven't, he basically gets

to the goal line and he does the thing where he drops the ball, but it's a little short of the goal line, though I agree with Dominique. I think he scored the touchdown. I believe in the neighborhood play. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think they're going to replay on something like that is really petty and messy. There was no need to do that. But anyway, they said he dropped a ball before he scored the touchdown. He comes over to the sideline. And we have seen the video. And and Ganon, the coach of the Cardinals, he got off in his ass about it, right? Which, understandable under the circumstances. And then the next day, Gannon came out in public and apologized. And look, I did think he was doing the most, but I didn't really think that he

necessarily needed to apologize. Then he got fined $100,000. And I was like, whoa. And then I saw he was putting his hands on that dude. I will be shocked if he's the coach next year. Oh, wow. Hey, man, that's how you lose a team right there. And it sounds like it took him a long time to realize that he had done it. Now, I guess a lot of this probably hinges on whatever his patterns of behavior had been going into this or whatever. But for people bigger than him to look at that and say that that was a 100. thousand dollar fine. He broke a lot of rules, like the, the, the, the, the, the, unwritten rules, shall we say, in that case. And I was, I was floored when I saw how much he got fined because I didn't think that anybody would ever take up for a player in that way under those circumstances. Yeah, okay, so I was floored at how much he got fined also. Then it was fined by the team. Yeah. Like, which I thought was the most interesting part of it.

because like, I didn't see anyone outraged by what Jonathan Gannon did. I didn't like, and now maybe internally, the players were furious about it. Obviously, that's possible. But like, I didn't see media uproar. The players union didn't file a grievance, at least according to reports. There wasn't like a viral take from someone at FS1 or ESPN, like, that like got a ton of traction. And then like the quote unquote outrage mob came after it. Like, it just seemed like it was.

the owner of the Cardinals thought it was conduct unbecoming and find him, which is admirable, but this is professional sports. Like, I would have been calling for him to be fired if it was high school or even college, but I wasn't that outraged by it. And I don't know if that's a bad look for me, but what DiMarcato did was really dumb. Gannon clearly lost his mind. You shouldn't do that. And he apologized for it, according to the.

the report. You apologize in front of the team. So I don't, I don't think it's a fireable offense. And it'll be, and because it didn't seem like he lost the locker room, there weren't like players coming out. It didn't become a big thing on the sideline or anything like that. I, I feel like football players kind of expect it from football coaches. They shouldn't, but I feel like it's just kind of part of the game. I don't, I think it's going to be a non-story in two weeks. So it's interesting I hear you say that because the point that this is professional football is also the point that I would make, but I take that in a different direction because

the pros or former pros that I talked to firmly believe that this was well beyond the pale, right? The video that came out of Gannon with this instance? I mean, pros want to be treated with an era of respect. Like the point they always make. I call my college coach coach and I call my NFL coach Steve. Right. Yeah, sure. Like this is, this is different. So to me, I don't know how much you know about Michael Bidwill, the owner of the Arizona Cardinals, but that is not a champion of labor. Right. That is not a, that is the fact that they did all of that, I don't think, based on what we saw,

because at first I kind of thought similarly to the way that you did, that that didn't look that crazy and I didn't see everybody else reacting in that way. Yeah. But I don't think that Mike Bidwill himself woke up and was like, that's the kind of behavior that I will not tolerate as the owner of the Arizona Cardinals. And we're going to nip this in the butt. somebody somewhere in this process made it clear that something had to be done. That's why I look at this and I raise a real question about how long this is going to go.

Because like I think he's a good coach. But they like they won nothing with him. And it's hard for me to believe that nothing had ever happened in a similar vein. Like that made you lose it that much? Yeah, well, so my read on that, and again, I'm just hypothesizing here, was the week before Adonai Mitchell on the Colts did the exact same thing. And we've all talked to enough players and coaches. Like, when they do the film study, they're not just looking at their tape and the tape of the opponents.

They'll put something up on the board and be like, this situation happened in the Dolphins Chargers game. Don't let that happen here, right? So my read on why he went as ballistic as he did. That they talked about it first. They talked about it that Wednesday. Because it's crazy that it keeps happening. And so again, it is not, I am not excusing what Jonathan Gannon did at all. It was clearly over the line.

I am just surprised that it led to that level of punishment because I think DiMarcato would tell you. what he did was unacceptable. Yeah. Like, by the way, I had Arizona in a survivor pool. I thought it was a touchdown also. So I'm rooting for that play to be a touchdown. But my like, just don't drop the ball before he crossed the goal. Yeah.

And say that's why I think something happened there that that there was that there was some ground swill. But I would like to make this point. I have a bit of a, I don't even know if it's a hot take. But when I see those guys drop the ball before they get to the goal line, remember famously Deshawn Jackson did it once at, I think it was at Texas Stadium. I think it was at the old house. But I famously did that.

And my response when I see that is, that's what you get. And you're like, Beaumani, what do you mean? That's what you get. This is what I mean. When I was a kid, that's when Katz was first getting out here for the NFL said it was okay. And they was out here dancing and doing, you know, spiking the ball hard and everything else, right? And everybody was talking about poor sports.

and everything else. And so what they then wanted was just guys to drop the ball, right? Guys to toss the ball to the referee or whatever it is. If your mind is on dancing, if all you thinking about is spiking the ball with some impact and then busting a move, you will never drop the ball before the goal line. That's all them cats out here trying to be humble, trying to be modest. And then when they do that, they wind up giving six points. But if you're out there and you get your groove on, you'll get the touch.

touchdown every single time. That's what, if you don't want them cats to do that, tell everybody. You are obligated and required to spike the ball. If Jackson Dart can get out here and do some shit when he score a touchdown, you can do a gronk spike or something like that. That's how you fix the problem. And by the way, the glory days were guys hiding cell phones in the goalposts. I forgot about that one.

T.O. with the pom-pom is just doing the most. Chad Johnson put it on the Hall of Fame. jacket, like T.O. running out to the star and rock Marion knocking his ass off. Like, that stuff was awesome. Tio going to the star is a boy, had to be there moment, Jack. That was incredible. And I think it was George Teague knocked him off the star. And what was amazing is that was the second best thing George Teague ever did to somebody from behind after the 19, January 19, 1993 Sugar Bowl, where he ran Lamar Thomas from behind. It took the ball from him.

one turn and ran back the other way. Tio on that star, because Tio went on the star the first time, and then Emmett Smith went on the star, just spike it and send a message. And then Tio, it's so funny. Tio had decided he was going again, and George T.ke had decided, but you're not.

Like, these were decisions that were made going in, but you not. And the full replay of it, T.O. in the sprint, and then George T. T.g. in the sprint. Like, everyone just sees, like, T.O. like that I'm thinking it's like no no no you have to watch like the whole like I would have watch a 30 for 30 short on just all of those little decisions and the full on sprint to knock

him off that star that was bad ass quiet thing about that moment is the next year the next year was the next year was the Philadelphia so obviously they played another game in Dallas and that year Tio was incredible and he scored a touchdown and he stood on the star in the helmet in the end zone I remember that, dude. Dude, T.O. was the man. It was a little bit of punk, but like a smart ass. Like, I was like, I would be friends with Tio. Like, just like, you know what? Talk your shit. I loved it.

If you are willing to deal with the fact that Tio doesn't get, then nobody cares about his story. I bet Tio could be really, I bet if Tio is your boy, like what they would say about Tio in locker rooms, the problem with Tio wasn't that everybody hated them. The problem was some people did. and the other guys loved him. And that is called being divisive. Right. Polarizing.

Yeah. Little too popular with a little too many people. Yes. Or as Davidique always points it out, no, this is an example of a lightning ride. Hell yeah, man. But like, remove the locker room. Like, I'm just like to hang out with them.

Yeah. Guy seemed hilarious. And third best receiver of all time? There's an argument. He's up there. he is an interesting case. I had some other thing that was an analog to this, and I remember it to some other point.

But the great receiver with not great hands. You know how good you have to be at everything else to be the great receiver with not great hands? Yeah, no, it's great because, yeah, he would have terrible drops, but then he would catch a slant eight yards over the middle, have two dudes bounce off of them and take 60 yards to the house, like from a dead stop. You start up and outrun people.

Unbelievable. Outright gay change. Before we get out of here, because of my time spent in North Carolina, this Belichick situation has been interesting to me generally. I did not think it was going. I'd say that first drive they had in their game, I was like, oh, this is going to work. They looked like a very well-coached operation.

Nothing has been in line with that sense. Your wife is a Clemson grad, so I think you probably got a chance to watch them beat the brakes off North Carolina last week. Now all the reports are starting to come out. the way you know it's over has begun to happen. All the leaks, all the anonymous stuff. Like you don't normally see reports like we've seen this week about Carolina until the end of the year after the guy gets fired.

Everybody's making the case. Then you've got the, well, Belichick has started buyout talks if he can find another coaching job or a media place to land. And I can't tell if that's Belichick trying to find the job or if that's Carolina trying to find a job for Belichick. everybody is over it. The season isn't even halfway done. Well, and those statements of denial really,

really didn't inspire much confidence. It was like, I am committed to North Carolina. North Carolina is committed to Bill Belichick. Yes. End of statement. The athletic, by saying, the athletic director who didn't hire him putting out that statement. Yeah.

Well, and that is the thing, too, like, the reporting on it is like, not just like an anonymous source close to the program. It's like says a defensive assistant coach. I'm like, God damn. Like that that's not like a low level type of situation. If you trust the reporting, which I have no reason not to. My thing on this from the beginning was that he didn't want the job.

He clearly wanted to be in the NFL. Like a couple of years ago, he interviews for the Falcons job. We saw that hilarious picture of him in the suit and tie in line at the Chick-fil-A, like when he was down there interviewing with Arthur Blank. Then he does every media job in the world to, like, stay out there. And he clearly wanted to be in the NFL. And by the way, I wanted him to be in the NFL. Like this whole time, this has felt below him a man of his statue.

Like if he was going to keep coaching, like I wanted to see him get another shot in the NFL. I think if you don't feel shame and embarrassment, it's like a tremendous quality in a person if you're like performing on Saturday Night Live. It's an adaptive advantage. Yeah, absolutely. But how, I want my like legends to feel some modicum of shame. Like, this is beneath you.

Like, this is just embarrassing. The 20-something girlfriend who's running your operation and the reporting and the anonymous. sources and get in the doors blown off of you. And like Michael Jordan shows up to the first game and he'll never be at another North Carolina football game again. Why would he? It's just so,

it's so humiliating. Like I just, I hope it ends. I hope it ends and we can just forget about this. And then like 10 years from now, who's the greatest football coach of all time? Like debate Bill Belichick's merits and just like never mention this again. Yeah,

what will the thing be that he's doing next year? I told somebody I was talking to what am I. local guys and I'm like, so does he make it through the season? He was like, does he make it through the weekend? Jesus. Like this, I mean, this is a lot to come out to then have another month and a half of season left. The report that Hulu had been filming a behind the scenes documentary and that has been

scrapped. Someone's going to get that footage. Yeah. And also, there was one of the reports that had like a parent, like a parent was furious. And obviously, you know, maybe a parent is. frustrated that a promise was broken in recruiting. And, you know, disgruntled parent happens at every college football program, sure. But God damn, I'd be furious if I sent my son to play for him and it was going like this.

Well, I think something that he and all his guys, all these 33rd team, we all are from the NFL thing, coaching generally involves a lot of soft skills, but college coaching really requires a lot of soft skills. Never mind the fact that I don't think Belichick knows a good football player when he sees one anymore. But it takes a lot of soft skills to do this. And dealing with players at the ages of 18 to 23 or 24 and everything that comes with that. And I don't know. Look, Belichick's a man who's a father with sons, right?

So he has dealt with people these ages before. He knows something about them, to put it like that. I don't know how exactly it is that he engages or interacts with his players. But it doesn't sound like it's going to. Nobody seems to be having a good time. time. And so you are a Syracuse grad. You understand what I'm saying here. When you are a program where I would say the Syracuse is like a plus or minus six win program. Carolina is a plus or minus seven win program. And look, I've seen those people be very happy with seven wins if they're the right seven wins. It's got to be a good time, man. They would like to be excellent, but they'll settle for a good time. Like right now, look, basketball season has begun. they'll always go do that. It's got to be fun. And Belichick, it's only fun if you win. I talked to a guy I played a play for the Patriots many years ago. And he played other places and it was his first year. And I was

like, how is it? And look, they won a Super Bowl this year. But he's like, you know, not the most fun place to play, but you have a chance to win every week. You're not going to have a chance to win every week in North Carolina no matter what. Like, it's very unlikely that's going to happen. This has to be fun. Nobody's having any fun. Yeah, it has to be fun and or You have to actually be able to put dudes into the NFL at a clip that is higher than your win total would expect because it's like, wow, I came there as a three star guy and I left there as a second round pick. Anyone think that that's where this is going? You know, like, I just, it is just every story that comes out is so petty and like beneath he still is like releasing statements about the crafts. like they can't show Drake May videos on social media, Patriots Scouts can't go to North Carolina.

Like it's just all, it's so petty and beneath them. And yes, definitely not fun. And they're losing. It seems like a guy who didn't want to be there and then now isn't doing everything to make it work. And like we've seen it before. One of his guys, Charlie Weiss. Yeah. Like they have like a little bit of an arrogance of like, yeah, I was a great coach in the NFL. So obviously at this lower, lesser level, I will be a super coach. No, man, you got to do the work. One of my good friends, who is one of the biggest Carolina fans I know hit me and said, people down here want your boy Pablo to find out some more. Hell yeah. But I think it gets to something interesting, though, all that focus over the summer on the girlfriend and Carolina obviously

did not like that as a program, right? Like, they're, people found that to be embarrassing, but it obscured that the real problems were going to be foundational to football. Like that was, that was all that talk about Jordan Hudson and nobody was getting college football in the NFL are not the same. So I, before I got this gig at FS1, I made my bones up. All I've ever done is local radio, Syracuse to Kansas City to Chicago and then, you know, fill in nationally or whatever. But we had Michael Lombardi as like a weekly contributor to the station. And when he got that job, I said on TV, Michael Lombardi's last job was weekly losing arguments to me on the radio. Like I could not have been less impressed with like the current, you know, maybe 15 years ago.

I have no idea. But like the present tense of Michael Lamar was like making like Sopranos analogies and telling old Bill Belichick or Bill Walsh stories. Like it didn't, it wasn't terribly contemporary or logically consistent. So I was not surprised that this has gone very poorly. I have long wondered what it is that Bill Belichick sees in him. Like all these different people that have given him these different jobs. Yeah. So what I always assume there's something that I don't know or I don't see or I don't understand. So case of point, Brian Schottenheimer, who seems to be doing a very good, or I want to say very good, but I think he's doing a good job as the head coach with the Cowboys. Yeah, I'm pretty impressed with how their offenses looked, without pickings and

with some of those offensive line injuries. And I've never liked how he runs an offense, right? And I've seen him bounce around everything else, but there's got to be something that people see. And I kind get it. Like it's going to be, I mean, he's Marty Schottenheimer's son, right? It's going to be a certain measure of just kind of foundational. It's not going to be flashy, exciting football, but there are clearly things that he could do. Mike Shula is a great example, where he saw to my buddy Sean King about it when Shula got the job with Cam working with Carolina. They're like, yeah, we're going to keep this simple, but he's going to make it to where Cam doesn't have to do this much and it's just going to center around his great, what he does well, getting the ball down

the field. We're going to have a strong running game in front of it. But okay, you can explain to me what it is that you see in him, even though all I see is a boring offense. with my untrained eye. Nobody can explain to me what you think about Lombard. Yeah. And by the way, that was what it was with most of those dudes around the Patriots. Like, who left and was like awesome? Like Scott Pioly. Right. Wasn't Bill O'Brien. Man, Patricia, though, he's doing a good job with the Ohio State defense. What do you know? And you got better players than everybody else. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, like, you know, Brady and Belichick got a lot.

ton of people jobs. Like that's just, that's, Mike Tomlin has no coaching tree. Andy Reid has an incredible coaching tree. Like there's, there's, you can be a great coach with a ton of success and like run the gamut on that one. But it, it doesn't seem like any of these guys are able to be successful outside of the Belichick, Brady, I guess craft orbit. Because yeah, I have no idea why Michael Lombardi keeps getting jobs. But he gets a lot of them. Guys had a lot of jobs. In many industries. In many, many, many. industries. In many, many industries.

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