The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Danny Parkins on Jalen Hurts & Eagles loses to Chargers, Shedeur Sanders' insanity, Philip Rivers' return | 12.09

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

Bomani Jones is joined by Danny Parkins of FS1's "First Things First". They start the show by reacting to the Eagles overtime loss to the Los Angeles Chargers and discuss why Jalen Hurts is the most confusing quarterback in the NFL. Later, they discuss Shedeur Sanders being named the Browns' starting quarterback for the rest of the season and consider why he is such a polarizing topic. Finally, they react to the news of Phillip Rivers potentially returning to the Indianapolis Colts even though he is a grandfather. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is that time of week where we have a guest join us.

Check him out on first things first, five o'clock Eastern on FS1. Danny Parkins. What's going on? Bo, good to be back, man. How you doing? I'm good, man. Did you get out of Nick's House? before the cheese game started or did you stick around?

I got out. I got out. And I didn't even send him any texts. Not any taunting texts, which I thought it showed tremendous restraint because Wilds and Brew and Nick, even though Nick was sitting three feet to my right, were sending texts in the group chat after the Caleb interception. And I don't know if it's because they'd respect me less or I'm like a new guy and it's a hazing situation. There were no texts mocking him during the Chiefs game, and I got all of it during

Well, that is a reflection, not of how little respect they have for you, but they're understanding that you're not going to harm yourself. That's true. Right. Now, do I think Nick would harm himself under those circumstances? Of course not. Can I guarantee you? No. Yeah. So Nick came to my spot during in the Colts game because my mom was in town and he's known my mom for a while because it was around Thanksgiving. But he said, he was like, I am a little nervous at how I'm going to behave. And I'm like, buddy, I'm a little nervous too. I'm a little nervous too. But she's seen, she's seen it all. So it'll be fine. And then there he was down on two knees, basically praying at my television. As the chiefs pulled that off, just making a fool of himself. Now, when his team lost a

Super Bowl to his nemesis, Tom Brady. I was not there, but I sent a text to his wife and said, is he okay? And the response was, quite simply, no. Yeah, that's right. That was it. That was it. That was matter of fact. But can you imagine if he rooted for the Eagles? This is, okay, so you and I have both done a good bit of radio, right? And you know what it's like when you see what's going on and you're like,

all I got to do tomorrow is say the phone number, right? If I want to do a show with my own content, I can. Or we could just screen through all this brilliance that's not actually brilliance, but is radio brilliance that is going to come through. And I feel like that's what it has to be five days a week. If you do radio in Philadelphia, I would never have anything prepared. I would only show up to work with my keys and my wallet. I don't need to log on to my computer.

I don't need to know anything because after last night, where, okay, guys, yes, Jalen Hertz had five turnovers in a matter of speaking, but I don't feel comfortable giving him the two turnovers that were on the same play. And you're like, gee, Beaumani, what do you mean? He had two turnovers on the same play. Never seen it. Through an interception, the interception was fumbled, which is something the charges fans know about in the worst way possible.

Jalen Hertz recovers it. and then he gets hit and he fumbles again and the other team when it took it. He had four interceptions in this game. It was bad. It was bad. It was not a good look. By the way, the Chargers barely won.

This was not encouraging, I would say, for them. But there are one-handed quarterback who, actually, I got to give him credit. He was playing like a two-handed quarterback. I don't really understand how exactly that happened. But if I was him, I wouldn't have been doing all that unnecessary. Clapping.

Right? Like, chill out, homie. Like, you ain't got to, you can show your love another way. But I can't imagine having anything tethered to the Eagles right now. Because is losing out on the board, we've seen them do this before. Right. A lot of people are, you know, invoking 2023 and that collapse where they, you know, lost five of six down the stretch and then got blown out in that playoff game. There's a lot there. But you're right about the radio thing. It's like you go in, you say the phone.

number and then the first like five calls will be like what's nick foals doing you know what i mean like people just say it all sorts of irrational shit that is going to be objectively hilarious maybe we should call Doug peterson so yeah like that that is that is just red meat to the base and jalen hurts is one of the toughest quarterbacks to figure out that i can remember because to me and i like to try to think of myself as a guy who watches the games but also understands the stats and the analytics. Like, he, my eyes tell me he is not a good thrower of the football.

Yes. Their actions tell me that they do not think he is a good thrower of the football. Correct. Their highly paid, objectively, highly talented wide receivers seem to think he's not a very skilled thrower of the football. And then in the Super Bowl, plural, he balls out. So I don't know. I'm like, well, damn, okay.

So he's a gamer. He's clutch. He's a leader. Like all of those things I give him his flowers for. He's tough. He's a good runner. He's a weapon. All of those things.

But man, like, of the five turnovers, the one that was the worst was the last one. You can't make that throw. You just can't. You're moving down the field with relative ease. Field goal to tie, touchdown to win. The underneath stuff was open the whole drive. The underneath stuff was open on that throw, and you force it down the field. And two different guys had a shot at the interception.

Like, that's just a decision and a throw you cannot make. He doesn't have that arm. He doesn't have that pinpoint accuracy. So if the decision making and the clutchness, whatever you want to, whatever stock you put into that trait is going to erode for him, he's a below average player. Yeah, the first thing I want to say, they will not lose out as they get the Raiders, the commandos, the bills, and the commandos again. So they're probably,

they'll probably go three and one on the way out, but I'm here to tell you, if they go call it one and three on the way out, that means they're going to lose in the first round. And that means it's going to be a everything must go sale on some level, right? Like, there's, they have a team that is incredibly talented and a head coach whose first, what is it, four years are as good as anybody's first four years as you'll ever be able to think of in the NFL. and it feels like they're on the verge of you got to break this whole thing up, except for the fact that last year, they were coming off a chaos year like this year, and they won a Super Bowl.

And the year before the chaos win, they went to a Super Bowl. I don't understand anything about them. I don't understand how it is. Last year, the world was furious with me, but not the whole world, just Eagles World, where I made the point, an unassailable truth. Every team that I've ever seen Jalen Hertz quarterback has been ultimately limited by his ability or lack thereof to throw the ball.

It happened at Alabama, right? They benched him in the title game, and we saw the passing game turned into something else, right? It happened at Oklahoma. By the way, two places where he was a Heisman trophy finalist. This is the duality of the J.L. Heard's experience.

Correct. And we have seen it happen with the Eagles, except for the multiple Super Bowls that you just prefer to. Which is a big other than that, as Lincoln, how is the play series of moments? Like, I obvious, people are like, well, so you don't credit him for the Super Bowl? I'm like, no, no, no.

it's the opposite. I credit him so much for the Super Bowl's that it makes me question everything else I know about football and quarterbacking because he is such an outlier in that way. And yeah, listen, I don't exactly know what Nick Siriani does. He's an offensive coach and they've cycled through play callers sometimes because the hires have been bad and sometimes because they go get head coaching jobs elsewhere. Like Shane Steichen seems to be a legitimately good coach in Indianapolis. and then he hires Kevin Petulow, and that seems to be going poorly. And it's like, well, then take over. Like, you've been a play caller before you're an offensive coach.

Like, fix it. So I don't know why Nick Siriani, and he probably does in Philly, to your point, but it feels like he should get more heat nationally for it, but the results are so overwhelming there. And I will say, I don't think they're going to go one and three. But if they do, and if Dallas wins, out, Dallas can still jump them for the division. And in that scenario, then it's everybody must go. Yeah. Some or somebody got to go, right? At the very least, at that point, I do think someone has to get fired. I do wonder this about Siriani is that if he takes over the play calling and nothing changes.

Yeah. Then he, his everybody must go becomes a lot stronger, right? What if, um, And I've seen people, I mentioned this on the last show, and I've seen other people talk about this where they say that Chris Sims has never been a Jalen Hertz fan as a go hard at Jailen Hertz sort of dude. But what if the reason that Siriani does not do this is he does, in fact, recognize that the problem is not the play caller and the problem is the manner in which their quarterback operates the offense. Yeah.

Listen, I think then I would agree with him. You know, like I do think that he is a little. limiting thing like we've talked about. And it was masked last year by Sequin Barclay having one of the five greatest running back seasons in the history of the league. And I saw Bill Barnwell put something out that he's like, Sequin Barclay is actually being unlucky this year, which we don't normally consider with running backs, but basically that his like rushing success rate on long runs, the plays that should go for 15 yards last year we're going for 50. And this year the plays that should go for 15 yards are going for like six.

And that that is just that there is actually some variance that we don't normally associate with that position that's happening there. Obviously, a ton of usage last year. There have been offensive line injuries. People clearly don't respect hurts in the same way. But the other thing is the most likely guy to go in the off season is probably not going to help the passing game get better because it might end up just being AJ Brown. Let me tell you something.

that I think they just go have to deal with that. Because what he doesn't appear to be as a polarizing figure. I agree. He seems to be speaking for a lot of people in that locker room. Yeah, like, I don't get the,

so the issue with Terrell Owens always was the reason that he was divisive is there were always some people on his side. Then it was the other people that hated his guts. And that's where you wound up with the issue. We're not getting any word out about this that AJ Brown is like tearing things up, right? And it doesn't seem like he acts a fool about this stuff or is difficult. Like anytime we see him in media talking about it,

he seems very measured. And by the way, very correct. Not saying anything that anybody with two eyes is not able to witness. And his critiques are typically broader than I need the ball. There is definitely we will be better if I got the ball. But it's also a heavy dose of, you know, we got a lot of stuff that we're actually not out here doing correct. and maybe we could get a little better at this. You listen to the people who are around the team, they'll seem to be ready to tell you that the problem is the quarterback and the people are tired of the way the quarterback does things.

You could trade a wide receiver because you're tired of him. This isn't how the quarterback thing works. I don't know where they go find another one of those. No, I mean, it's got to be 99% that Jalen Hertz is back next year. Oh, it's got to be 100. It's got to be 100. Right, if not 100. Like, you don't move off of that guy.

And so, but what do you do? Like, what offense do you build around Jalen Hertz that isn't some version of we have to be the best rushing team in football? That's, that's really the only path to it. And they might outlaw the tush push this year, which I don't think is going to hurt. Like, I think Jalen Hertz will be the best quarterback sneak quarterback, even without the tush push. The guy can squat 650 pounds and they got a good, good off. offensive line. So I don't think that'll be that big of a deal. And he's not tall. And he's not, right. Yeah, exactly. But it might be the situation where you peaked. It's reasonable.

Yeah. You won a Super Bowl. You went to two. He got a Super Bowl MVP. He's never going to be a great thrower. You gave him a quarter of a billion dollars. And you're going to have a couple of years of frustration here. Yeah, the they peaked argument. You know, I worry about this with America's team, to Detroit lines. Like, I'm in it with him at least for a little while. But that's like, that's the fear and the concern. I'm going to be a television producer right fast. I'm not saying that your television show would do this. And I want to be careful name and other television shows by name because I don't want to put you in an uncomfortable position there. But I would just simply say that somewhere, some point this week maybe, it may be another week depending upon how these two

gentlemen will play. Somebody's going to put it up on a screen. You're going to see it on a caron. That's what They call it the thing at the bottom of the screen. Bottom line, yeah. Who you got? Jalen or Shadour. Oh, I can promise you, I can promise you that will be another show. And then I will keep my thoughts to this podcast or our text messages.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Like I'm saying, we're just talking about a hypothetical situation right now. Right, nobody has actually done it by the time we get done recording. however, it may be on the screen already, but I'm telling you right now, somebody is like, I don't know, man, I think that might, I think that might have some sizzle to it. Yeah, well, it's got some sizzle. Uh, do you, can we talk to for a minute? Sure. What do you, I mean, by the way, we watched, we were in the same room while that game was going and walking and, I mean, watching and talking as it went,

while also watching a zillion games, but we, we were in the same boat on that one. Yes. And I, we did it on the show yesterday. And so I went back and watched like the YouTube cut up of every Shadur throw because we do have, you know, we got three TVs and ones on the quad box and one's on Red Zone. It's like football overload, right? Before I talk about like what I think Shadur actually is, why? What is like the stew? Because it's clearly a lot of ingredients. Like if we just started like some of it is fame and some of it is just his father and some of it is confirmation bias.

Like, what is the stew that has made the media go insane on this? Because I think that this is, people compare it to Tebow, and I don't think it's wildly unfair. Like, I feel like I am covering a story differently than 95% of our peers. Yeah. It's very odd to me. Like, I want to talk about this kid like he was a fifth round's pick that the media got wrong before the draft and see if it works out. But no one else seems to be able to keep him within that prism. Yeah, so it's interesting you say that because I made.

an argument a couple of weeks ago that he was not an underdog. And I kind of started rethinking that to a degree. And he's not an underdog in the sense that his father is Dion Sanders and has been able to put his thumb on the scale in some ways to get him

some looks. They may not have gotten otherwise. But if you do view him in the context of like he's a, Cam Ward is the ultimate, right? Zero star recruit to number one overall pick with the places he went, right? But he's much more physically talented than Chodor is, right?

That's where it becomes interesting and trying to figure out exactly, like, who fits in as underdog. But the truth is, as you point out, he was a somewhat lightly recruited high school player who started at a historically black college and then moved up to a higher level where I was on record as saying he looked like a good FCS quarterback, but not necessarily a good FBS quarterback and became a second team, All-American, to get to, where he has gotten is actually a pretty big win, right? But that ain't enough for people now, is it? Right?

Like, and so I think you, the things you listed in the stew are certainly there, but I think that this is as much as anything else, a reflection of the ways that we communicate with each other and the way that social media has poisoned our brains collectively, right? And so everything becomes a debate point because that's what gets engagement, right? Like everything becomes something that has to be rarely is it there to be discussed. It is very often there to be argued. So let me tell you this one.

I think I see a screen grab of this. I didn't listen to it. So if this isn't exactly what it is, that's fine. You let me know. But I'm just going to read to you this synopsis of something off a nightcap with Shannon Sharp and Chad Johnson. And it says, Shannon Sharp tells Chad Ochosenko that he believes the Cleveland Browns are trying to set Shadora Sanders up by letting him start the remaining games of the season with their next games being the Bears, the Bills, Steelers, and Bengals.

Set him up to fail or to succeed? But they also told me that it was a setup. And I got to be, I don't like saying they about just this, you know, random swath of people. But when he wasn't playing, it was a setup, right? But the reason I say that, I think it's important to talk about that in the context of the stew, because also this list of games that you talk about, the Bengals, they got to make a wish foundation on defense, and that's the end of the season.

The Steelers, I mean, I don't know, right? The bills don't have some great defense. And the Bears, you know better than I do about what exactly. I mean, they're a good team, but I don't know. They get a lot. They lead the league in takeaways, but they've been in multiple shootouts this year. They're not a great defense. But this is the kind of thing.

I hear people say things that are so far in either direction when it comes down to him. Honestly, I don't see, and maybe these people are out here, but I don't see that many people who are that hard on your door in public anymore. I see far more people who think that anything that isn't going exactly his direction is some kind of set up to hold him down. And I think that is the broth of the stew is the internet. And I think that that's the answer probably for a lot of things. nowadays, like that we just all have some degree of toxic internet brain and it's polluted everything.

And listen, I will, like, my true thought is that a fifth round pick on the Cleveland Browns should not be a topic. But I don't fight it for when it gets in the show because I know it does numbers, right? So like, I guess I'm contributing, even when I then get on the air and try to do the most reasonable should do analysis ever, almost like intentionally trying not to go viral to make some sort of defiant point. I could be more defiant and not allow it in the show. But it's just odd to me that, like, he had a statistically very good game against Tennessee with some absolutely impressive throws. I thought the touchdown to Injoku was very good. I thought the back pile on throw to Fanon was good.

I thought he felt the pressure on some and dumped the ball off nicely. I thought his stats were a little inflated with Yak. Judkins had a huge run after the catch. Judy's touchdown was a huge run after the catch. So I don't think it didn't look to me like a 340 passing yard game, but that's what the stats ultimately showed. But I've never seen people so happy to crown a guy, a franchise quarterback for losing to the Tennessee tight.

The worst team, the worst team in the league. But it's because people want it, right? Like there's, I think this is maybe the part that I think is the most interesting is how much about Sanders in the discussion has been about whether or not he's getting a chance. And I'm like, when did we start doing that? Yeah. Like, that's not, that's not the world that we're in. That's not, no, that's not, it's not that.

But I think it lands in the middle in the sense that, for example, Stefansky says that Shiro's going to start for the rest of the season. There's no reason why he should not. I agree. And what I've seen, he's been better than anything that Dylan Gabriel had produced. don't watch closely enough to tell you exactly why he is. I've watched more closely with Shadourd than I did with Dylan Gabriel. I guess it's the point that I'm saying.

So I'm not in a great position to be comparative. But yeah, he should be playing for the rest of the year. And the Browns will be fools if they don't take a quarterback as early as they possibly can next year. Like, come on, man. Like this is, this is. And that leads us then to an open world and setup where the Eagles can trade a fourth or fifth round pick. And Brachshed Dorsandis in and give Jalen Hurts. somebody behind him to make sure that, you know, he doing what he's supposed to do in the

offseason. And then go, boy, like, you think they're having a good time in Philly now. I don't think, like, listen, I think that's the thing. Like, I, we have seen NFL teams sour on quarterbacks. They don't want headlines for backups, which is reasonable. It's a reasonable thing to not want your backup quarterback to be a distraction. I think it's, I think it shortened Cam Newton's career, not to have a whole Cam Newton conversation. It was a factor with Tim Tebow. Like we have seen it before. So Chador is going to have to be exceptional.

And if he goes into next year with a top five pick, a $230 million quarterback, say whatever you want to say about the Sean Watson, but the owner was at his wedding this year. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're like, oh, wow, the owner wants Chadour. I think the owner wants the Sean Watson to work. Right.

Although God knows how cooked he's coming off in Achilles, right? Yeah. But you're right. But no, no, you're absolutely right. That best case scenario for Jimmy Haslam is the renaissance of Sean Watson. Of course, that is what he is.

I had completely forgotten about this. Dude, that is, dude, it's the worst trade in NFL history. By far. And he guaranteed his contract. and all of his billionaire friends hated him for it. Of course he wants to get the laugh laugh on that. Like if next year you have a new coach, Shador Sanders,

a top five pick into Sean Watson. I mean, it's going to be on our show every day. It's going to be on every day. When you put it like that. Right? Like this is one of those when you put it like that scenario. Yeah, man.

Like I, so, but, But whose trade, Shador would have to be, I can't even fathom what he would have to do the rest of the way for them to not use a top five pick on a quarterback. No, no, no, no. It's impossible. For me, there's nothing, right? I agree. Now, that being said, what quarterback have you seen? None.

Right? Like I watched Francisco Mendoza the other night. Yeah. I mean, okay. That's what we're doing. That's fine. That's the guy that people say, yeah. Yeah.

Listen, if the answer is this happens to be the year, the 2013 draft, like the Eric Fisher. The E.J. Manuel. Yeah, Dionne Jordan, Wayne Johnson, like that track. Like, if this happens to be that year, then, okay. Like, don't draft a guy you hate with a top five pick. I'm not, like, that's not a way to build a winning franchise. but assuming someone is there that your football Illuminati agrees in, to let a fifth round pick have six games to change your mind

and make you go away from that would be completely insane. Well, you just have to really believe it, right? Like, you have to be in the position that, for example, Kyle Shanahan was in with Brock Purdy where it reached a point where he was like, no, no, no. We really believe this. And for what is worth, Brock Purdy starting NFL quarterback, right? I think that the point that you make if you're on Team Shador about this is,

if Brock Purdy, who had a fairly similar collegiate profile, DeJore Sanders, he was a very good college quarterback, although he was all over the place, he was still good. But if you think that he can become a starting quarterback, because we're not even talking about France, like I think we say franchise too much. Let's not even ask if he become a franchise quarterback. If he can become a starting quarterback,

An example of his starting quarterback would be Jalen Hertz, Brock Party, other guys on that caliber. If you think you got a starting quarterback, you buy in on that, right? But yes, yes, but okay, I just, those teams would say that those guys are franchise quarterbacks. I know they would say it. When you give them $250 million, aren't they franchise quarterbacks? Right, I think, but the problem is that's what they all get, right?

Yeah. So, like, that's why I say we use the terms so broadly, but those guys are really, to a tongue of by Loa is a starting quarterback. Your guy Herbert, until proven otherwise, is a very good starting quarterback, right? Very good. I look at this with the Browns, and if they get in the draft next year, if you don't see a first round pick as a quarterback, do you wind up doing, say, like the Steelers did with Kenny Pickett, where it's like, damn, we got to do this eventually.

All right, man, let's go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead and get one of those, right? Like, you don't want to wind up in a situation where you're like, shopping at the airport. Like, damn, I don't have a blank. I don't have headphones. I'm about to get on this plane. Why do these headphones cost $500? And they ain't even got the deep.

They ain't even got noise canceled. Right. You know, it's, it's a tricky one. I think the Kenny Pickett situation is not, that's just not ever the answer. Right. It's never a good idea to reach.

because a first round pick is a tremendous asset if you hit on them at any position. Yes. You know what I mean? If you draft a great right tackle with a first round pick, it's a huge cost saving things compared to what you would have to pay a great right tackle in free agency. So like hitting on first round picks is a supremely important way in building a good football team. So I would not advocate for the reach for the Kenny Pickett level prospect situation ever. but man, you talk about sports radio.

Sports radio in Cleveland in a George Sanders and Sean Watson quarterback battle, man. I don't know. Like I just, because there's a lot of Browns fans who seem to believe. I have not gone into the Cleveland radio. And I love doing that from time to time. It's been a while since I've done. Oh, it's so much fun. My favorite was the morning after LeBron won the second championship.

It, like, I was calling shows and laughing. Like, I was all with, I was all with Rizzo. I think it was a Rizzo, go hammering those cats. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm always here to like, oh, what the one's going on up there in Cleveland right now. Yeah, Ken Carmen and Anthony Lima. That's the show that I rock with. They do a nice show in the mornings.

Carmen could go insane sometimes. Limeon tries to rain them in. But yeah, it is a, yeah, it's fun. Like, it's fun to take the, those are the markets, like, cold weather markets with passionate, beaten down sports fans. Yes. Where you're gonna, you know what I mean?

Detroit, Cleveland. But that's why they, that's why Philly is so interesting because they're not, they're only beaten down because they fight so much. Yeah, right. It's actually been pretty good for you guys.

Yeah. So I always say that Philly, New York, Boston is like the big three where like their fans think they're smarter than the GM. Like being mean is in their DNA. Yeah. And then Chicago is like the capital of everybody else. Like we can be mean, but we're still like, we like to think of ourselves as Midwestern nice.

Yes. But then like the places to do sports radio are cold weather city. Because local sports radio in L.A., Houston, it's just too nice out. Yeah. No, I do contend. Chicago, New York fans, and we're going to break with this idea, are far more beaten down than they get credit for being. Like the bears are a far more miserable sports franchise. They have an incredible history and nothing after the history except the 85 bears, right?

I'm at Madison Square Garden where they have an original six hockey team and I believe an original NBA franchise. Like when leagues had six and eight teams and have a combined five championships, five championships. I've lived here. This is the ninth football season. been here between two franchises. I've seen one good team this entire time. No, no, no, no. They don't get nearly enough credit around here for how much losing they why. Even the Yankees

who have now not won a championship in 16 years. And that 16 years is the only one they've won in the last 25. When I was a little kid, the Yankees, by the way, were terrible. Like 80s before the run starts, terrible. They've taken a lot of Ls up here. I don't feel. Philadelphia, I feel like reasonably competitive, except the Sixers have done things to them. Yeah, right. No, that's true. And my least favorite person on the internet is that Boston sports kid that holds up the sign at every championship.

Right. I've been to nine championships and I'm seven years old. And then he keeps updating it. I'm like, I. Yeah, they used to get beat down. And the one team, you know, the Celtics are doing all to winning. But you know, that's sizzle. They got a weird relationship.

Like the Bruins guaranteed to sell out. The Celtics better be good. Right. That's kind of how Boston works. But all right, coming up next, if you don't know what I'm about to tell you, you're never going to believe. And those of you who I haven't even said what it is

know exactly what I'm talking about. It's that crazy. Coming up next. All right, we're back with Danny Parkins. I'm just going to have to just come out and say it. Because the Colts are down quarterbacks, Daniel Jones, touring Achilles, Anthony Richardson got a broken face.

Philip Rivers is going to come work out for the Colts and if the workout goes okay, it sounds like they're going to let Philip Rivers play for them. I need you to understand something about Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers is 44 years old, and not only is that really old to still be playing football, I heard this morning, he has a biological child who was older than Riley Leonard,

the Colts backup, because Riley Leonard might not be able to play this week either. Wait a minute. So is Philip Rip, it just dawned on me as I was saying that. Is the plan that Philip Rivers might play on Sunday? That's impossible. I refuse to believe that. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

I saw it said, like, could be put on the practice squad and could be an option is how I saw the wording. I don't think. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Hold on, hold, hold, hold. All right. So, back up Riley Leonard has a knee injury. And this is from Stephen Holder at ESPA. This is the second, this is the lead and the next paragraph.

The Colts quarterback saga has taken another twist, which started Daniel Jones out for the season because of a torn right Achilles and back of Riley Leonard dealing with a knee injury. The Colts could, shockingly, turned a retired NFL great Philip Rivers as an emergency solution. I want to say retired NFL great is a stretch.

But yes, Philip Rivers has not played since they couldn't even fill up the stadiums with people, people had masks on. 2020, the last time he played. Oh, he is a semi-finalist for induction in the Hall of Fame. This year. This year. This year. This is correct. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm sorry. I don't mean to interrupt you. No, I didn't mean interrupt you. I just read a paragraph in this that blows my mind.

The cults believe Rivers familiarity could give them a real. realistic chance to stay competitive. I mean, stop. Now, okay. There's a lot of things to unpack here. You got to feel terrible if you're Riley Leonard. Like, he thought he was doing okay. He had risen up to be a backup quarterback in the NFL.

Yes. He's young. And they're like, oh, God, we need to call a. grandpa. Yes. Like that, that has to be super humbling. Also for Brett Rippin.

So apparently Brett Rippin is on the practice squad. And so it sounds like if Riley Lennon could not play this week, then they would bring up Brett Rippin. And then Philip Rivers would then get on the practice squad to get. This is a movie. Okay. Yeah. If,

a comedy just to be clear. Yeah, if it ends well. Like, or it's, or it's a, or it's a. because he's going to get broken. I mean, how he can't be in shape to do this. Right. This isn't Tom Brady, right? So let me say this about Tom Brady.

I don't know if you've ever had anything like this happened, but I was doing radio for ESPN and I was, this is the TB 12 stuff was coming up, you know, and I still got questions, but whatever, right? Yeah, no kidding. The most compelling thing I ever heard about the Tom Brady TB12 stuff. And remember Tom Brady's big thing, and I do think that he was right about this,

is that pliability was what was most important. Like the guys with the greatest longevity are like the Ricky Henderson's and the Korean Abdul-Jabbar's. They were all flexibility yoga type guys, right? Like, that's, LeBron James is another great example. Like, super, like flexibility is the game. If you want to play for a long time, okay, cool. So we're doing the show.

And Trevor Price, former Pro Bowl defensive linemen, played for the Ravens, played for the Broncos, went to Clemson, right? He calls up because he's just listening on his way home. And he said, oh, no, no, no. It's much different when you hit Ben Ropheasberger versus hitting Tom Brady. He was like, when you hit Tom, Ben Rathesberger, it's like hitting something made a glass. And he was like, and glass breaks. He said that when you hit Tom Brady, it felt like he melted into you. Like this idea of this like supernatural flexibility or whatever is that like once he knew the hit was coming that he could just

like steer into the skid basically. And look, he did play. It's like why kids don't get hurt when they fall. Exactly. Right. And look, he did play till he was 45. There's something to it. Yeah. No, Brady was amazing. Right. Now, Philip Rivers, I have no idea what kind of dedication

to physical fitness he does or does not have. Because on one hand, nothing about him indicates that he cares that much about physical fitness. But on the other hand, that also means he might be a little bit pliable because the one thing he's not in there doing is just throwing up weight every day, right? Like, I imagine that Philip Rivers with no shirt on looks like a pillow. Yeah.

Yeah. But it might be a firm pillow, but a pillow nonetheless. Yeah. And like, you know, there is a, I've heard Gronk say, gronk gets asked like, you know, could Tom Brady quarterback still? And he always gives like a pretty reasonable answer. He's like, yeah, if he couldn't get hit. You know, like, like, I absolutely believe that it's on the realm of possibilities that, like,

Philip Rivers's brain and arm is still NFL caliber-ish, right? Like, Joe Flacco has had moments of looking good this year. Now, he's 41, and Rivers is 44, and Flacco has been playing continuously. and in theory, Philip Rivers has been playing with magnetiles and building blocks and playing with all those children that he has. So I understand that that's different. I think it's totally within the realm of possibility that Philip Rivers' ability to process a defense and his ability to hit a 15-yard out is better than Riley Leonard's. That seems reasonable to me. But the problem is it's tackle football. Yes. You have to move. You just indirectly made a great point.

The reason that Rob Grancowski doesn't still play football anymore is because he doesn't want to get hit. Yeah, exactly. And by the way, when he gets hit, he's also hitting back at the same time. The thing that's underrated about being quarterback is so many of those hits are there. There ain't nothing you can do about it. Like, it's the only job where you have to act like people aren't trying to hit you. I guess why a receiver to a certain degree also, but like you just have to stand there. And, you know, somebody might hit me into kidneys while I'm not.

Yeah, but I mean, at least a lot of the time, you are also running. Like, so you're in, yes, could deliver some blow. Yeah, you have to. Brady is an outlier until proven otherwise. And I believe that, like, we've gotten much better at sports science and sports medicine and nutrition and flexibility to like, you know, the old thing, like, you couldn't be a running back after 27 or like, those things have changed. Clearly.

But I, I tend to believe you also have to, like, continuously. be an athlete. I don't think you can be Hall of Fame eligible and then come in and start an NFL game midseason. Hey, look, I could be wrong because I don't know this man, but do you think that Philip Rivers is still out here? Is he Calla Kaepernick still working out every day waiting on a call? That's never going to come except it did. Yeah, I don't know. I would be surprised. I know this. I have a three-year-old and a five-year-old, and at the end of my day, I'm tired. Now as, now as, seven more kids. I just have to assume

that it's not going to go well. And also Indianapolis, you are the eight seat in the AFC right now. You have lost four of five and three straight. They could lose out. Well, that's what I was going to say. Here are your last four. At Seattle, top three defense and football,

home against San Francisco on Monday night. okay, not, you know, an injured defense, but Robert Sala, he has them overachieving like crazy. Jacksonville, pretty good defense this year. Houston on the road, best defense in football with a bullet. So you're playing two of the three best defenses on the road, a top three defensive coach in Robert Sallick. Stop. It's not worth it. these are the kinds of decisions that you make when you don't have your first round pick.

Right. And so, yeah, man, I said it at the time. It has worked trading multiple first round picks for non-quarterbacks, but I would never do it. I mean, maybe for an edge rusher. I, maybe, but like, and like the sauce gardener thing, at least you didn't have to immediately pay him top of market. But what often happens in these situations, like with the two edge rushers that it happened with, Khalil Mack and Micah Parsons,

you have to give up all the draft capital and then pay them the biggest contract ever. The Bears thought they had their QB and Trubisky. They didn't. They had one good year. The Packers obviously have Jordan Love and think they can win the Super Bowl, so maybe it'll work.

The Rams won a Super Bowl with Jalen Ramsey, but then he was gone like a year and a half later. I just, you made this bet on Sauce Gardner because you were, you would have made a bigger bet on Daniel Jones, and now you've got no first round picks, and your other option is Anthony Richardson. Like, you're just screwed.

Yeah. Now, right fast, before we get to the, what we're going to close with, I just saw something as we were talking that, and who knows if this is actually true, but it'll just bring it up. And it says,

ever since CP3 got sent home, he's been doing what he's been wanting to do more of, spend time with his son. And my question for you, is that a win for this son or not? because I'm seeing it with a video of little Chris on the timeline. And Chris Paul standing behind him with his hands on his hips. What's there to watch?

He's running on a fucking treadmill. Like what is there for you to observe here? Oh my God. Like if Chris Paul is like this with adults, what do you think he's like with his teenager? Dad, I just want to have fun with my friends. Yeah, listen, sports parents, man. But I don't know, with the gym built into the house.

I have to see this. We're gonna, we're gonna. I will send you the link now. But I just had never thought about like what it was like when the, when the Paul family found out dad's coming back. They were just like, oh, no. Like he's not even leaving to go. Forget about road trips.

He's not even leaving to go to work. Yeah, man. Well, Chris Paul, he is a real case for two things can be true. All time great point guard. Yes. All time pain in the ass. Yes, yes. And those two things are not unrelated. Right, yeah. Absolutely. Michael Jordan, leadership has a cost.

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's definitely a connection here looking at your text now. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, just, I mean, I just, I just can't imagine what it's like with Chris Paul standing there, what his arms folded. No, that's got to just be, that's got to be miserable. Tough break, man. For all parties involved. You said what you were going to close with, what we talked about at. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. And like these Syracuse guys come with their own material and I appreciate it.

Yeah, Lefco brings material. And I was thinking about, you know, this is the type of thing that, you know, I would maybe try to make some content with if I, you know, still had a four hour a day radio show on a Wednesday. And now this is a one hour podcast on a Tuesday. But I live in Pleasantville, okay? I don't know. I don't know if you watch my friends in Nassie. neighbors or if you're familiar with the concept it's the john ham apple tv show john ham new york

finance guy clearly has you know eight figures worth of money uh but decides he would rather just like steal from his neighbors who have like expensive shit laying around their house that they haven't thought of because no crime happens in these places and so that's what the television show is based on so i live in one of these places i will not give away the specific suburb or the specific roads for identifying factors not really for me but these other people but there's not any crime here and so So there's a free newspaper that goes out once a month that details the things that the police department has had called in, things that the cops have had to respond to. So I pulled some of these. And I think that they are there. Would you have called the cops basically? Here we go. An Ogden Road resident reported that she received two irate phone calls from her neighbor after she put a lock on a fence door between the two properties.

to keep her neighbor from walking into her yard. After police talked with both neighbors, the lock was removed and both agreed to stay out of each other's yards. This made it into the newspaper. Made it into the newspaper. Imagine, imagine calling the police over this issue. Here's another one.

Here's another one. This might be my favorite, but I wanted to, we're going to lead hot. After responding to a report of a blonde man in a striped shirt lying on the ground off Heathcoat, police found a scarecrow on a front lawn.

Bo, these are human beings that I'm sending my kid to school with that I'm expected to like hang out with at children's events. They are so pampered and privileged and sheltered that they called the cops in October in suburbia because a scarecrow was on the ground. Catterpoint, if they're going to pay for them cops, they're going to make them do some work. Okay. That is a reasonable counterpoint.

And those kind of people are those types. I got an alert from my kids' school. Okay? My wife sent it to me. I didn't believe it was real. She confirmed it was real. They did not allow the kids to go out for recess one day, and they called it a soft shutdown because there was a sighting of a raccoon.

And so they called the cops, called the police, and asked for extra patrols around the school to come look into the raccoon situation. I went to the Halloween thing at the kids' school. And I've been dying to talk to someone about this. I talked to my wife knows this other mom, trying to make conversation with this random dad. I'm like, hey man, I had my first, you know, welcome to Blank Town moment with this soft shutdown over the raccoon policy. And he looks me dead in the eye without a hint of sarcasm, iron, or even the appearance that he had ever heard a joke. And he says, that's a good policy. Do you want your kid to get rabies?

These are people who walk among us. I have hundreds of them. An Oxford Road resident told police that a man wearing a mask and blue coat walked down his driveway, stopped, turned around, and then walked back up his driveway. You called the cops. An east parkway resident reported that she found several packets of sugar on the hood of her car at noon.

She removed the sugar packets, but when she returned to her car at 4 p.m., she found more packets of sugar had been thrown onto the hood of her car. What am I supposed to do with these people? Hey, man, this also extends to one of my hotter takes that I used to bring up when it was a bit more controversial, which is, yes, there are many police officers

who have very stressful, very dangerous jobs. And then there's the other like 90% of them. Right? Like they, not every police officer is out here working in the jungle, right? Right. Is out here working the South Bronx? No, no, no, no, no. Like when I lived in Miami, I was in sunny, Isles Beach.

I used to look at the cops around there. I'm like, hey, man, ain't nothing hard about your job. I'm sorry. I know there's a lot of things that are in. And in fact, you might even wish that there were some things about your job. They're a little bit more difficult because in your dreams, you out here, ta-da, da-da, da-da, right? Like you think you, like, you want to do all that stuff, right?

But in the end, you out here coming to rustle up, them raccoons. That's like when the stuff start happening, I forget, one of those tragedies or whatever. And people are like, yo, the local authorities, why did those local cops? Why didn't they go in there? Because cops who are capable of doing that don't work here? Right. They out here doing somewhere with, they out here for real fighting crime. You know what I'm saying? Res of these cops out here doing exactly what you talk about.

I, I, yes, it is an excellent point that used to be a hotter take. I, I would rather them not get the call. Like I would, I would rather the tax dollars go to them just sitting in the precinct hanging out. Because it's just embarrassing. Like, it's, it's embarrassing that you cannot solve these problems. You, a blank Parks and Rec employee reported that a pink penis was spray painted on the tennis courts of the middle school sometime over the weekend. The caller requested extra police patrols after school and on weekends. What is going on?

We've lost the plot as a society. Hey man, you know what happened. Those people said to this, no, I don't have anything. I'm trying to come up with anything at all and I have nothing. And so I apologize. Maybe these were not the best improv prompts. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They were very good.

Like, I was just thinking, though, as I said, that I was going to make, like, some larger societal observation. But I don't think I have one. Like, this is, this is that. Here's my question. Are they hitting, how many police officers do they have? Because I feel like somebody getting paid time and a half for this. Like that actually might be the most offensive part to you was that y'all are paying time and a half for somebody to sit out there by the tennis court just in case somebody throws some meat out there.

Dude, it's, listen, the property taxes are the most offensive part about it. And I'm sure I'm going to find my suburban crew eventually. Like it was like, you know, your kids will become friends and then you'll become friends with their friends' parents. I don't know. Let me tell you something. I can tell you from this. that you and my brother are really going to start playing a lot of golf together because you're going to need it.

Dude, I am down. When the weather gets nice again, he needs to hit me back because I need to find my golf crew. And again, the people up here, I try to talk to the dads with the golf polos at the school events, and they all belong to country clubs with crazy initiation fees. And they're like, oh, what do you do? I'm like, I do what do you do? Venture capital, hedge fund, investment banking.

I don't want to talk to any of it. No, no, I know you well enough to know that you don't want to play golf with them because you told me they were wearing golf polos. All right, like the fact that they were that they were wearing the garb and they weren't playing golf, that's how I knew right there. You ain't want to. Yeah, that's right. That's exactly right.

That's exactly right. Danny Parkins, check about first things first, five o'clock Eastern FS1. My man, I greatly appreciate you. Anytime, though. It's always fun. See you soon for some football. Yes, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here.

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