The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Darnold Leads Seahawks to Super Bowl, McCarthy to Steelers, Deion Fining Players? | 01.26
Episode Date: January 26, 2026Bomani Jones starts off the show by reacting to both the NFC & AFC championship games, and talks about the stakes ahead for both Sam Darnold & Drake Maye. Later, he discusses the Steelers' hiring of M...ike McCarthy and how out of character it is for the organization. Finally, he breaks down Deion Sanders' decision to fine his players, Lane Kiffin's insane tweet, and the ongoing crisis in Minneapolis, and why athletes aren't speaking out the way they used to. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original.
My name is Beaumani Jones.
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We got a lot going on in the world to talk about.
But the first thing I want to get out here and talk about is the fact,
now we don't know nothing.
And I'm going to tell you how I know that we don't know nothing.
We don't know nothing because last night,
and really throughout the duration of this whole season,
Sam Darnold been out here throwing the ball to, you know,
there's one exception I can think of,
but otherwise, Sam Darnold out here throwing a ball to a bunch of white boys
and they're about to go to the Super Bowl.
Everything you ever thought you knew about the world goes out the window
when you think about that.
Sam Darnold out there throwing it to a Cooper, a Jake,
What's the other one, Ryan?
Not even a Jake, a Bobo.
Yeah, Jake Bob.
I say Jake Bubble, right?
Like, there's another white duty I did throw it to.
And like, ain't none of them like Matt Conkey.
He fast, right?
Yeah.
They just out here, I guess Cooper Cup at one point was fast.
Yeah.
And by the way, they didn't just win that game like with Sam Donald around.
They won the game with Sam Donald throwing for like 800 yards.
What are we doing here?
What is the world?
Like as much as we talk about that with the Seattle defense,
that isn't what happened in this game.
That wasn't it.
Like, you know, I've been saying, hey, man,
ain't no, get out of here,
but there's Matthew Stafford going to the Hall of Fame situation
if he lose a game to San Donald.
But I can't even really fully, like,
go full-froated about that one
because he threw for 800 yards too.
Right.
And they're going.
They're going.
I just want to say this right fast because it's,
I don't want to seem like I'm insulting guys,
and I don't want to really do this during Super Bowl week because it's not fair.
But I'm trying to think how far back we got to go to get a quarterback matchup,
quite like the one that we're going to have in this Super Bowl.
And it's interesting because Drake may, two guys that were number three picking the draft,
Drake may ultimately be that guy.
Sam Darnold turned out not to be that guy,
but it's proven to be a guy who has actually not been that good for like the last month and change,
but suddenly it all got dialed up in the course of this game.
And here we are.
2026.
There we go.
I want to call Cortez and tell them
a happy new year.
Yeah, just to do it.
After that situation,
hey man, I have to say,
that was an excellent football game
with the Rams and the Seahawks.
Like, it's one of those
where I don't even feel like analyzing it
really, you know, gets down to the point.
Or it only matters but so much,
I guess is the way to look at it.
Like I found myself as I was watching it being less like, man,
I got to think about what we going to talk about tomorrow.
Then I felt in the course of watching it like, damn, man, this is, this is fun.
This is what you want.
This is one of those where you almost wish, well, I don't know if that's a fair way to put it.
I was just going to say, like, this is certainly a rivalry of sorts, I imagine,
to the people who really care about these teams.
And then that even gets to be a little bit weird because of the Rams and their relocation.
But if this were like a traditional rivalry, like, Ryan, can you imagine if this was the Falcons and the Saints having this kind of game?
Now, of course, the Falcons and the Saints would never play each other this late in the year.
Never this late in the year with this good a quarterback play on both sides.
It would never happen.
Understand this.
I don't know if you even realize this.
In the year 1991, the Saints and the Falcons played against each other in the wild card round of the playoffs.
at the Superdome.
And the Falcons won that game.
And the winner was going to rack up their first playoff win ever.
Two teams that have been in the league for 25 fucking years.
And the only way one of them could win a playoff game was to play the other.
Which, which, where was A-Ber playing at the time?
That was A-Ber.
That was A-Ber.
But for who?
No, oh, Bobby A-Bair was playing for the Saints.
Chris Miller, I believe, was starting to go back.
That's kind of my point.
Yeah, yes, yes.
No, ABA, ABA got there shortly there after.
Yeah.
I saw Bobby A. Bear throw six interceptions against the Oilers.
Six interceptions.
But Seattle, when you can win, when your main unit ain't really doing the thing, you're doing, you have got a team.
And they're one of those teams that just where you watch them and you're like, oh, they look well coached.
You know what I mean?
like everybody seems to be where they're supposed to be.
The one time they didn't seem well, Coach,
it seems very clear to be Ryan that that boy
Rieke Willembe be doing dumb shit all the time.
And the way that I know that is, look,
I ain't gonna lie, man.
And, you know, y'all will understand what I'm saying
if you get a little bit mad.
I thought that was a real Caucasian officiating
when they hit him for that 15 yards
for like taunting the sideline.
Like he wasn't over there grabbing his jewels,
mooning their.
even imaginary mooned them.
Whatever he said had to have been particularly egregious.
Well, it seemed like the ref told him to stop
and then he kept on going.
Then that's very Caucasian officiant.
Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying, I felt...
You tested that man's authority.
Whatever happened to let him play, right?
Y'all always get out of here talking about this
let him play situation.
Now, I'm inclined to cut that man some slack
and I know this ain't going to mean a whole lot to y'all,
but that's a Fort Worth decision-making
that he was engaging in right there.
And he's from Fort Worth.
Like, that's...
Fontytown don't think stuff.
stuff all the way through.
Right?
Like it just, it just doesn't work like that.
But when he got to the sideline and that other cat was like getting all of them about it,
like I just realized, oh, he must do things like this all the time, right?
I told you not to be doing stuff like that.
Yes.
I would also love to see what Rick Wilden's draft profile was.
He is a six foot four corner who ran a four to six at the combine and,
was drafted in the fifth round, what was he doing in those interviews?
What was he saying to those people to where they were like, oh, no.
Maybe we'll get him another day.
No, no, but I'd say this, that is definitely a guy Pete Carroll drafts.
Yes.
Pete Carroll's like, oh, yeah, we'll figure it out.
Six-four?
Yeah.
Look, six-four quarters are unwieldy because it's a lot of like small space maneuvering.
But at the same time, six-four run four to six.
Yeah.
We can figure something out.
We can see what this is.
But okay, how much, I mean, we'll have two weeks to talk about this.
How much Sam Darnold are we about to be out here believing?
And if Sam Darnold and the Seahawks win the Super Bowl together,
how long before somebody tells me that he belongs in the Hall of Fame?
Just throwing it out there, just asking the question.
We just out here.
It's harder than ever to get in the Hall of Fame.
And we just out here.
Putting everybody in.
Yeah, but that's afraid we got to retire.
Like the future Hall of Famer, we're going to need to know.
old. You know what I mean? And that's not just about Stafford. Now, look, if you guys want to put
Stafford in the Hall of Fame, I'm kind of giving up on the idea, although I'm still holding
strong on Eli Manning. Y'all seem to at least be putting up a fight about that madness.
But I already forgot what I was going to say right fast. Don't you hate it when that happens.
Yeah. I'm still mad. I was just telling Brian, man, I had a line that was so cold and I ain't
want to hit him with it last night because I ain't want to ruin it when I said it this morning
and I acted like I am not 45 years old, and I woke up, and that, that, it's never coming back.
It's gone.
And I'm telling you, you were going to be in the floor.
It was first class, amazing work, and poof.
Gone.
Now it's gone.
But I do think, though, and by the way, for those of you who are wondering, gee,
why don't you want, why aren't you talking about the, the AFC championship game for what?
What is there to talk about?
Like, like, dead ass, what is there for us to talk about?
other than the fact of we ain't, you know what,
this is what there is to talk about when it comes to that game.
There are some lies that people have to tell.
I'm an adult.
I recognize this.
Sean Payton had to lie to us about Jericho.
You'll see.
Just watch.
I did.
And those were three terrible hours.
Okay.
He's a backup quarterback.
You know, if I'll put it to you like this,
where they were just like, yo, Shaw of Peyton believed in him.
No, he didn't.
You know how I know he didn't believe in him?
Because he drafted Bownex.
You know what I'm saying?
He went out there drafted a quarterback about his age.
I'm just saying.
Auburn teammates.
Right, right.
That all of us were, of whom all of us were wildly skeptical.
Yeah.
Right?
And he was out there like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me go ahead and get me, let me go ahead and get me a real quarterback.
Bonnix.
And he went and got Bow, Bo Nex.
next, right? So Stitt was out there, I felt so bad. He was suffering for full, all set
lemon booty that first drive. And as soon as I sent a tweet about it, he threw it at one pass.
And then after that they were done. They had that situation. I have only really recalled seeing
this in golf where at the turn of the weather changes, like half the people play around under
one set of conditions, and then the other half play it under another. And that's what the second
half was in that game. I mean, it was at the point where Vrable was calling just throw it away.
plays. Right. The only thing you get you beat is Drake May taking a dump sack and fumbling. And he
called the whole game avoiding that outcome. And by the way, those two outcomes were totally on the
board. Yes. Totally on the board. And I want to say this to Drake May right now. Okay. Sam Darnold has
officially exceeded every expectation that we had after we recalibrated from our priors, right? I think
Bayesian is the term that we're looking for. Right? We had our priors. We adjusted our priors.
Is it Bayesian or Keynesian?
These are Bayesian.
Keynesian is when you start talking about like macroeconomic stuff, right?
Bayesian is their probability things, okay?
Yes.
Keynesian is the adjustment to the priors.
He's good money forever.
Take it.
I'll tell you this right now.
If you win this Super Bowl and we know
quarterbacks don't win games.
You're non-clicking motherfuckers, okay?
So we don't have no misunderstanding there.
Quarterbacks don't win games.
But if Drake May is the quarterback of the winning team under these circumstances,
you are good, okay?
It will make your career so much easier.
I think Drake May is very talented.
I think the ceiling is very high.
Do I think Drake May will be better than Josh Allen?
Nope.
do I think that he will be better than Lamar Jackson?
Nope, but we about to be on them boys next from here and to forever,
because we're about to watch either Drake May or Sam Donald win a Super Bowl,
and those guys haven't even been there.
They ain't even touched the grass in the Super Bowl.
Drake May gets this one, brother, you straight, you straight.
And you're not like Dan Marino.
Dan Marino got there in his second year,
but he had to go against literally one of the greatest football teams of all time,
the 1984 49ers.
And when you think about the 49ers,
all you need to know about 84 was the defense was probably better than the offense.
Okay, right, everything you ever heard about the 49ers,
and that's not saying the offense was overrated.
The defense, Ryan, they had three pro bowlers in the secondary.
Jesus.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me go.
What are we talking about here, all right?
Dan Barrito never.
Drake May, you go ahead and do this right now.
Honestly, you could, if you win this right now and you keep playing,
I'm gonna be looking at you.
Like, I look at Clay Thompson.
Like, dude, why are you still here?
Brother, if I was Clay Thompson, I wouldn't even know, like,
there would be some games I would miss because I forgot.
I'd be like, damn, we got a game tonight.
Which no one would be surprised by because of Clay Thompson.
Because it's Clay Thompson and the Mavericks.
Like, why would you keep up with the Mavericks schedule, right?
Yeah.
Like, if I was Clay Thompson, it would be some games where I'd be like,
damn, we got a game tomorrow.
All right, but hold on, man.
Let me call my girl.
No, man, I got to see.
We got plans tomorrow, man.
Let me see if she can change them.
I mean, look, if we can change our plans, I'll come.
You know what I'm saying?
But otherwise, like, Drake made with a Super Bowl,
hey, man, all we going to do is, like,
you've accomplished it all.
This also sucks because, Ryan, we have the worst combination of things.
The obnoxious Boston fan,
they back in the game because the Patriots are back where they were,
and they also have a legitimate underdog,
feel good story sort of element of it.
And I never feel good about it.
They can legitimately say no one believes in us.
Because I sure didn't.
I sure didn't.
I sure don't.
I sure don't.
Now, I want to be fair to May, though, in the sense that he's played two games in terrible weather.
Right.
I would say that he has looked terrible.
I have not felt good about the way that he has played.
But there are, there's stories around it.
Now, the issue for that Super Bowl and what we're going to talk about for a couple of weeks is that guy against an excellent defense.
Yes.
Based on what we've seen so far in the postseason.
we're asking for a lot here.
On the other side is going to be Sam Darnel playing against an NFL defense in a game that
really matters.
Could go either way, right?
This could be it.
But I'm going to give it to the NFL, man.
Y'all gave us a great postseason so far.
You did.
Like, I've thoroughly enjoyed all of this, everything that we've gotten.
I think that this has been a great, like, exhibition of football, which is very important
because what we don't have is great.
teams. And I know, what was it? I mean, my shots said it was like the best DVO way
NFC championship game of all time or something like that. Yeah, I, I, so someone's going to have to
break that down like a fraction for me because I did not. I never once what. And I feel like I've
watched a decent bit of these two teams. Right. Never quite saw it, right? Never, never,
quite saw it. You got to, I don't know, we obviously like giant peaks on both sides, but not.
you know, you couldn't keep the consistency.
No.
Throughout the year.
Well, let me ask you this about Denver.
Do you think the outcome would have been different if Bo Nix had played?
And my answer is I'm not sure.
I'm not sure because the weather was so drastic.
Right.
Because here's what worries me.
Bo Jets.
Whoa, wow, almost.
It did something sacrilegious.
Bo Nix.
You didn't do it.
You got close.
You were around in second.
They both went to all.
You know what I'm saying?
They both went to Auburn.
Bo Dixon get out there and still think, I can do so.
Right.
I can make this happen.
And look, they got, what, touchdown in the first half, right?
Right.
That was the reasonable expectation was that you could get a touchdown in the first half.
They got the touchdown in the first half.
But I don't know.
I just, I came out of that.
It's so interesting.
I came out of that with, wow, that one game was so good.
I don't even really feel the need to talk about it.
And then I came out of it with,
that other game was so bad.
I don't want to talk about it.
Like I don't, I mean, I didn't want any parts of it.
And now, Ryan, it's a long two weeks.
Correct.
It's a really, really long two weeks that is coming.
My favorite thing of the long two weeks is the NBA.
I don't know if it just worked out accidentally,
but that trade deadline being right during Super Bowl week
has come in handy to last, like,
South.
Yeah, look, it was one thing with Super Bowl stuff
when we didn't have as much media
and as much space to fill in that week of Super Bowl,
like the media day and everything else,
like you'd go to your whole job,
then you come back and be like, ooh, Super Bowl stuff.
And it would be this treat the whole week that you would get to.
But now that we are always online.
We're always talking about football.
We ain't got enough stuff.
We already know who all these people are.
You know, like we are fully loaded up and aware
of who all these people are.
So by the time that week comes,
It's like, yo, man, we're a little tapped out, man.
Can we just like, can we, can we get to the gang?
Can we get this?
Now, if you want to tell me that Marshaun Lynch going to post up with Jensrika's
and they're going to do a daily briefing?
Yeah, we're here.
I'll watch that.
I'm 100% here for that.
Otherwise, let us be glad for the great football that we have had so far
and cross our fingers that the rest will be decent.
All right, so, you know, I feel like all of us got kind of caught up.
in small sample stuff
over the last couple weeks
or whatever. And what I mean by that is
the Pittsburgh Steelers
have only hired
three coaches since
1969.
Okay?
Those three coaches bore similar characteristics.
They were young coaches who were in their
first jobs, who were
defensive guys. They all ultimately
wound up being coaches who won Super Bowl.
So as a result,
we all thought that when the
Steelers hired a head coach that it would be a defensive guy in his 30s who never had a job
before. But all I can assume is that we were operating off of small samples, right? Like,
this wasn't quite like the Raiders after they let John Madden go. And, well, they didn't let him go.
John Madden left. But after John Madden left, every coach that Al Davis hired was an young
offensive guy and the reason was, well, yeah, mostly young. Either way, they're all
offensive guys and the reason was Al Davis ran his own defense, right? He didn't need a defensive
coordinator. He just needed an offensive coordinator and then somebody to call plays on Sunday,
right? But we had enough times that he had changed over coaches that we understood that that right
there was the pattern. Okay. Nope, the Steelers apparently just hired three coaches because
everything that we thought we knew about them, they took it and they wiped their six.
he keister with it because they went and hired Mike McCarthy to be their head coach.
And I don't, I think that we are typically a little bit too hard on Mike McCarthy.
And I have explained in the past why I think it is that y'all are so hard on Mike McCarthy.
And it's because he's chubby, right?
Like the rules get all messed up with chubby people come out here.
Y'all know how y'all treat chubby people.
And if you don't want to believe me, go ask a chubby person.
They will tell you how they get treated.
But there's a, there's a way in which people don't take.
Super Bowl champion, Mike McCarthy, seriously, that I think is tied to his weight.
Ryan, you sent me to the joint with the numbers where he basically, it's kind of like he got
the same track record as Joe, what's his name, John Harbaugh.
I mean, him, Tomlin and John Harbaugh are kind of Spider-Man, me, me, me, each other
with the exact same resume.
Now, obviously, I would not say the same level of coach, but the same level of resume.
Yeah, yeah, but when you look at it, it's very, very, very similar.
It's about 170 wins.
It's one Super Bowl and not a lot of playoff wins since the first Trump presidency.
Right.
And when he got this job, McCarthy, when he got this job at the Cowboys,
we're like, what in the world were they doing?
By the way, they were just fine, right?
The problem was not Mike McCarthy.
Now, there were some problems that you could say you have with his offense,
but the problem was not Mike McCarthy.
We are all a little bit too down on him.
However, let me tell you,
I have never seen Mike McCarthy do.
I have never seen Mike McCarthy
coach a quarterback who was
less than very good or dare I say excellent.
Okay? He got a version of Brett Farve
that was still pretty good.
He got Aaron Rogers
when he, at least regular season wise,
was as good as any quarterback we have seen,
just in terms of the pure execution
of playing football. He was as good as anybody that we had ever seen, right?
Remove team success from it, everything else. Just like, wow, I can't believe how good this
guy is. And then Dak Prescott was probably like, I would, right, I would say that Jack Prescott's
not going to make the Hall of Fame, but shit, after what happened with Stafford.
Oh, he just one trade, one trade to the right guy. That's right. Stick around long enough. He keeps
getting better. Yeah. You still have a chance, buddy, but the bottom line is if the worst quarterback,
that Mike McCarthy ever coach was Dak Prescott.
He's been living good.
Right.
Okay.
Who the hell is going to play quarterback for the Steelers next year?
Because I feel pretty confident that that's not going to bring Aaron Rogers back.
I mean, I can't imagine a world, even if Aaron Rogers does come back.
Correct.
That's not what you want.
Right.
Right.
If that's your best option, you don't have a lot of good options.
Yeah.
So what are they doing?
They hired a coach who is in his, like, early mid of 60.
right, it was 63, Ryan?
Turned 63 next season.
All right, it turns 63.
They're not starting over, right?
They are not a, they're not a rebuild sort of thing.
Let me say something that's wild.
Up until that Minka Fitzpatrick trade,
where they traded away first round pick to get him,
they had a run for decades of every year
making one first round pick.
Never two, never zero,
one first round pick.
Right?
Like they have operated very much so in a process sort of thing.
They don't believe in tearing it down.
I understand if you don't believe in tearing it down, that's fine.
My question is, what the hell do you think this team is that you have right now?
And if your goal is or your game is, we are going to stay competitive with the roster that we have.
And then you add Mike McCarthy.
It is implying to me that even though Mike Tomlin left of his own volition, you kind of think he was the problem.
Right.
because I mean, I don't, clearly you guys don't mind changing what you've done in the past.
Oh, what is that small sample thing again?
Because he just hired Mike McCarthy, right?
You are clearly not wedded to everything you had done before.
There have been articles that have come out that are implying that the Steelers are in a place
that a lot of college programs get to.
North Carolina basketball is one I can think of around the majority era where you look up at what you got is a little bit stale, right?
And you've always been able to get by on whatever the name was and all of this.
but then you look up and everybody else is doing all these things and you've been so wedded to what you're doing
because everybody talks about what it is that you do,
and then you look up and it's like, oh, snap, man,
we need to get some other things going, right?
That is what has kind of been implied in reporting
that we're seeing around the Steelers right now.
I just don't see how Mike McCarthy makes anything better.
And I feel like if he ain't making it better, he's making it worse.
To me, when you were talking about college football there,
I thought you were talking, going to get to the point where it seems that all politics is local.
And there's a lot of reporting going around.
Part of the reason Mike McCarthy is getting his job.
Because he's from Pittsburgh.
From Pittsburgh.
It's certainly not,
it's not a factor.
Yeah, but that,
what the hell of,
if that's what they're doing,
is that,
that can't be all it takes, right?
I mean,
they're gonna hire,
what's his name?
They watched it.
All right, like,
under these, like,
I'm sure,
I'm sure his name's been pitched.
And I look,
and I know this.
I was just looking at ESPN.com.
Ryan,
I don't know if you've seen this,
but the headline is,
uh,
Rooney to fans,
Steelers, quote,
excited about Mike McClain
And Mike McCarthy is many things, but he's not exciting.
Even if you think he's effective, even if you think he's the right man for the job,
he is not excited.
Listen to this.
We're not worried about winning the initial press conference.
See, that's when you know.
You know anybody trying to hear this shit, man.
And look, courage to them.
Like, when you know you're making a call that people aren't going to like,
but you're going to do it anyway, hey, there's a certain level of G that I suppose you have to
have in you in doing that.
just none of us understand what, like,
I feel bad for McCarthy in the sense that he can't answer the questions.
You know what I mean?
Like the questions we have about this decision are not questions that he can answer
by telling us about what the scheme is going to be
or telling us what the staff is going to be.
What, we don't, we don't understand this.
Yeah, I just, everything about this hire,
we talked about it being one of the best jobs available
because you were going to get a long runway,
you were going to be able to grow into the job
because we assumed they would hire someone
from their late 30s or early 40s,
and now they've hired someone
just the most retread
of all retreads. Yes.
Like someone who's coached, again,
lots of experience for probably the two
of the other grammar franchises in the NFL,
but like if you
pushed Mike Tomlin out because he couldn't get over
get over the hump.
Right.
And so you bring in Mike McCarthy.
I just don't understand the logic.
Well, here's the problem or where I think this will be interesting is because of his age,
you don't really have the option of patience.
I don't think.
Like, you can sell patience with your 35-year-old guy and you're like,
hey, we gave him a five-year contract and we're going to, like,
we've made this decision right here and now that this is a five-year play and we're going to, you know, see where it goes.
especially with the Steelers who have one of the oldest rosters in the NFL.
Right, right.
Like you, but you could get up there and say,
hey, look, we're going to see how this goes.
You know how we do things.
You can't do that with a guy that's 60-something years old.
Nobody's trying to hear about the time that you're willing to give him
or the time that you're going to afford him.
Nobody wants to hear this.
So I don't, I wish I had an answer for what exactly it is that they're going to do from here.
Nobody.
I don't think anybody has the answer for what it is that they are going to do.
It is not exciting.
They said that, you know, the Steelers said that they're excited.
Somebody has to be.
Nobody else is excited about this move.
Also, Ryan, this, did they look at the rest of these coaches and just be like,
it ain't really hitting?
Right.
I mean, I would rather have Robert Sullivan.
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
what a weird cycle where Sala takes the Titans job.
Right.
Right?
Because here's one thing I do know that Sala's going to do.
Sala's going to bring in some form of the Shanahan offense, right?
He's going to go find some one of the, some 32-year-old guy.
There's got, there's always another Kubiak.
Yes.
You know, like Chris.
Chris Kubiak or you know, whatever.
K-R-I-S.
K-R-I-S-C-C-U-Y.
Clay-Cubia.
Kila Ku-Koo-E.
Killa Koobes, right?
Like one of them is going to be there.
You know it's so funny.
You've seen this thing with Khan Knieple.
We're Khan Kniple and all the
all the canipples have names that start with K.
And the question immediately was,
what's your middle name?
Of course.
I haven't seen anybody ask this about these Kubeyaks.
And I'm going to find out right now.
Like I hope that there is a level of self-awareness about Alexander.
Like Alexander Kubiak.
I recall.
I would go by Alex.
Yeah, I recall having a teacher whose initials were a K and then a K and then a K.
Got to change your name.
Well, well, now you do.
I'm not sure if then you had to, right?
I don't have.
But that option is always available.
It's always on the board, man.
It's always on the board, right?
Like, you get.
There's lots of ways.
People change your name every day.
There's lots of ways to change your day.
You ain't even got to go Muslim.
You know what I'm saying?
You ain't even got to get it on your official paperwork.
You know, but you got, sometimes you got to make an adjustment.
Speaking of the need to make an adjustment,
they're talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Have you also, I'm intrigued also by these guys like McCarthy,
not McCarthy, Mike McDaniel did this, Brian Flores did this,
where they jumped on the bird in the hand of these assistant jobs.
But you know, the rule is you can't stop somebody from interviewing for a head job.
Right.
if they are an assistant coach.
So McDaniel's got that job with Harbaugh-Floriz.
Apparently is staying with Minnesota,
which surprised me for a couple of reasons.
But they're also still kind of out there interviewing for jobs.
Now, look, man, I don't think nobody giving Brian Flores no job.
Still is new him.
Yeah.
And they said, no thank you.
All right, for whatever it's worth, right?
They said, no thank you.
This is a weird market.
I think that's the only way that you're really saying.
On Friday, the bill's interviewed Philip River.
Holy shit, I forgot about that already.
Guys, in case you did not know this, this truly happened.
On Friday, the Bill's interview Philip Rivers.
It was so funny because you sent me a text about it,
and you had made mention of the point that also Josh Allen
was going to be sitting here on interviews.
And I'm like, I can't believe anybody cares about that right now.
He's going to sit in on an interview.
Yeah, and Philip Rivers is going to be the one that's making the presentation.
What?
I'm also trying to imagine Philip Rivers,
because he's not a, like, he's a high.
school coach, but he ain't been a coach like this. Is he all Chad GPT right now cooking up his
PowerPoint and like cranking out who the staff is going to be? Whose idea was this? Did they call
him? Did he call them? I would rather have Philip Rivers than Mike McCarthy. It's, it's,
I see the point. I see the argument. I don't know what's. I don't know if it's a good, that's personal
preference. Yeah, yeah, but I don't know. I don't know any of what's going on here. I do know, I do want to
say this, though, about the Josh Allen sitting in on.
I don't see, that, that didn't move me at all, right?
Um, I don't, I guess this is not really commonplace in the NFL.
I wonder if this also happened because Bishadhi in Baltimore, where he said, Lamar,
if you wanted to have a say so about who the coach was, and why don't you get on
the plane with me, we come up here and we do these interviews, right?
And maybe Josh Allen was like, huh.
Yeah.
They were also interviewing people in Florida.
So you might have just been avoiding, you know, Buffalo.
time of here.
No,
could be,
right?
But I think,
I don't,
I think we all need to be honest
about the level of power
that Josh Allen has.
Right.
With this team.
And even if he's not in the interviews,
they're not hiring a coach
without Josh Allen being like,
yeah,
I can see it.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, this is not,
this is not Jerry Jones hiring Barry Switzer
and then telling Troy Aitman about it, right?
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're going to,
this decision will.
always going to involve Josh Allen in a way prominent enough that that didn't get me.
It's the, hey, Philip Rivers did a good job playing as an old man.
Why don't we make him a coach?
I hear he's doing a good job coaching at a private school in Alabama.
What?
What are, what are, what?
And see, and this is the thing, man?
If they'll invite him to interview, it's a good chance he'll get the job.
Because clearly they're crazy.
You do not call Philip Rivers unless you're actually considering it.
Right, right.
Somebody's like, ooh, we'll see.
I'd tell you this.
I wish I could get into group chat with some of the brothers in the Fritz Potter Alliance.
I'd love to know what they thought with the Philip Rivers,
the Philip Rivers email came through.
Like, what are you saying?
Like, it was funny when Jeff Saturday got the job with the cults a couple years ago.
and I know Jeff and I like Jeff a lot.
It was so crazy that they gave him the job
that I didn't even have time to get around
to a Rudy rule discussion
because the white boys had room to be just as bad
as everybody else.
Everybody was like, yo, fuck, are you serious?
Like, he on TV right now.
What are you talking about?
You had to get off the first take, second,
set and get on a private plane to Indianapolis.
Yeah, that's why it's actually so funny.
I'm talking about the brothers being mad about this
in Philadelphia Rivers.
Again, the white boys is a point.
at arms. Joe Brady's got to be like,
he can't be fucking serious. I've been up here
freezing my ass off for years.
Years. I got the big glued under
control. And now you
go with, what?
He don't even got his own whistle.
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All right, Bo. Speaking of coaches,
a couple college coaches got themselves in trouble over the weekend.
Dion Sanders announced you'll be fining players
for following eight rule violations school,
wait to practice $500, no show practice, $2,500.
Wait to treatment, $1,000.
No show to a meeting or film session, $2,000, amongst others.
Bo, what was your reaction to this?
All right, so Penny Hardaway apparently also came around to institute and fines.
And that went great.
Yeah, right.
Well, we're in this ambiguous situation of, is this the pros?
And the issue is this.
And this is where I imagine it drives a guy like Dion crazy.
They are being paid like professionals, but they are still teenagers, right?
Right.
Or in that zone.
They are not, even if they're professional, they're not pros.
I mean, they're still 19.
Yeah, yeah, they're not pros.
Right.
They're not going to comport themselves as pros.
And Dion sees himself as running a pro program.
Did you see the clip talking about, like, him and recruits.
cornerbacks.
And he's like, he doesn't recruit 511 cornerbacks because he doesn't see
511 cornerbacks playing in the NFL.
And that would matter a lot of he was recruiting for an NFL team, right?
But they're not.
Or he was, you know, at Alabama.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, you don't, like, you don't, I don't think that he has that luxury.
And even if, like, if your game plan is, I'm building an NFL, like, style program.
Yeah, but you can't afford to make those kinds of decisions.
And maybe this is the kind of thing that happens when you're in the,
NFL. I have two questions. Question number one, if they don't pay, then what? Right? Question number two,
where's the money going? Because normally when you got these kind of fines and stuff like this,
it's like kangaroo court type of stuff, right? Like you put it in a pot. Like a swear jar for a company
party or something? Yeah, yeah, no, but you're like put in a pot and then you like throw a party at the end of the year
or something like that with the money that people put into this,
man, he's got $2,500 fines in here, $2,000 fines.
And look, man, he's a kid.
I don't care how much money you paying them.
Some of them is broke right now.
And you're like, well, I guess you can't afford to be late to practice.
When they're late to practice, Dion, what you're about to do, right?
What are you?
I don't know.
I can't, I don't, I get where he's coming from.
I guess it's the part that I get the logic.
Yeah, yeah, I don't want to pretend like I don't really understand it.
And what I don't have a great handle on is what kind of money the guys at the end of the roster are making on this team.
You know, Colorado's not a school that has a whole lot of money to give guys.
You know, like their five-star left tackle they recruited a couple years ago is leaving.
And I'm sure it's because Colorado just doesn't have the money to keep them.
But I just don't, I don't think this is going to go the way.
that he thinks it's going to go.
Or this leads me to another question,
do you have this much of a problem
with getting guys to come to stuff?
Like, have these guys been skipping out on you?
Have they not been showing up the treatment?
Like, is this something that's been going on
that we don't know about?
Because I feel like you should be able to take care of this
with old-fashioned steps.
Like, steps.
Gassers.
You know what I'm saying?
Vicious workouts in the heat.
Get out and run that stadium.
Yeah, yeah.
Like when did that stuff stop working?
And now you got to get them to pay $2,500.
I don't know anyone, no matter how much money they have,
who wants to give up $2,500.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Nobody.
I just don't, I can't believe,
I can't believe that he thinks it needed to come to this.
Right.
Like, that, to me, does not speak well of your capacity as a leader.
If you have to kind of sort of bribe them
to do what they're supposed to do at this point in their lives.
But also, I've never had to try to tell a rich 18-year-old what to do.
Yeah, I do not want to be the disciplinarian for a bunch of millionaire 18-year-olds either.
This is the problem with this whole new setup.
And I don't know how many people are going to say it out loud, but I'd be the one to say it.
Nobody likes rich teenagers.
Nobody does.
No, like not a soul likes a teenager with more money than them.
And that's all these little, so all these little people are is 85 of, for most people, it's 85 of them, right?
Like, Joel tells the story, and he's told this in public, so I have no problem repeating it.
When he was covering preps, he did, he was in Dallas, and he did something where he interviewed Chris Bosch.
And after they got done with the interview, they walk out to the parking lot, and Chris Bosch got into an explorer.
I think it was a new explore.
And I don't remember what kind of car Joel was driving.
But all you need to know is that after watching Chris Bosch getting his explorer and Joel get in his Hatermobile, he immediately went to go purchase a new car because he could not be studded on by the 17-year-old in this manner.
I can imagine what Joel was making as a pre-preps reporter.
Preps, newspapers.
I know, I mean, it was the night.
In 2001.
Yeah.
And all I'm saying is this.
All of these kids is doing that to just about all of us.
And what I mean us, I mean, y'all.
But this is kind of what it is.
All right.
Speaking of college coaches, Lane Kiffin got himself in trouble,
tweeting out a picture of two make Baton Rouge great hats
and then tagging the president.
Bo, Wayne Kiffin, are you surprised?
That's your guy.
it's your guy.
And the thing with Lane is,
I have a hard time believing
that Lane believes in Trump
because I have a hard time believing
Lane believes in anything.
Like I can't, he's all,
everything with him is so random
and he's such a troll
that who knows, right?
It doesn't, in some ways,
it doesn't matter if he believes this or not, okay?
Read the room, man.
Are you watching TV right now?
Like, are you people,
Come on, man. You can't be doing this.
Like, this is, this is not, I don't know.
This doesn't seem worth the squeeze.
And he deleted it and then he, what he, he sent it out,
when he sent it out because it was linked to Trump's official account.
And then he deleted that and then sent it back out without a link to Trump.
Correct.
Right.
And look, for all we know, he just came across these, these hats on the street.
Somebody was selling them.
I have no idea.
My thing is, if I was one of them LSU people,
where my problem with him would be was the hat didn't.
say make Baton Rouge great again.
It just said make Baton Rouge great
to which I respond, what you're trying to
to say, bro. You just got here. You know what I'm
saying? And I'll tell you, I had one of the best
weekends of my life in Baton Rouge on a whole
$20. I know
people have their criticisms of it, but
you do Baton Rouge right. You can
have a really good time. Please note, though,
I was 20. I also
had a great time in Baton. He was 20 years old.
He said, make it great, but not even great again.
Yeah. Like, yo, y'all need to step, y'all,
shit up. That's what he said. And I just don't feel like you can walk in the door talking like that.
Lane Kiffin, living by the tweet and dying by the tweet, will end exactly how we think it all well.
Look, man, you guys went from one kind of impossible to like coach to a different archetype of
impossible to like coach, but still suffering from the same broad affliction.
All right. And a little bit more serious nose, uh, ice is, uh,
killed another protester in Minneapolis.
Protests have gone out throughout the weekend.
An NBA game was postponed.
Bo, what were your thoughts on the situation?
So, you know, not in the habit of watching people get a shot.
Like, I've opted out of that.
Enough people have described to me what happened in that video
that I don't know if I have anything novel
or of particular interest to say about it.
It is noteworthy how flagrant these actions have become.
I think brazen is probably the word.
The cockamamie explanations that come on the back end.
In fact, if these acts happen in the first place,
full on awareness that when they're going on,
there's cameras there.
And so it makes you feel like they're not even doing this
on the standpoint of I hope nobody sees it.
You got to feel like they want somebody to see it at this point.
You know, like this is, I don't know if it's,
we're sending a message, whatever it is.
I don't know.
What I thought about in seeing this.
And, you know, Ryan and I kind of, you know,
bouncing my ideas off each other over the weekend.
And right before we got on to do this,
we both saw that the National Basketball Players Association
had sent a tweet and, well, a statement via a tweet.
And it says, following the news,
if you had another fatal shooting in Minneapolis,
the city that has been on the forefront of the fight against injustices, NBA players can no longer
remain silent. Now more than ever, we must defend the right of freedom of speech and stand in
solidarity with the people in Minnesota protesting and risking their lives to demand justice.
The fraternity of NBA players, like the United States itself, is a community enriched by its
global citizens, and we refuse to let the flames of division threaten the civil liberties
that are meant to protect us all. The NBPA and its members extend our deepest condolences to the families
of Alex Pretti and Renee Good, just as our thoughts.
remain focused on the safety and well-being of all members of our community.
Ryan, let me know if I'm off here in a way, but like I feel like I was personally glad to
see that the MBPA made a statement, but kind of felt like word salad.
It is not the tenor that these statements used to be.
Yeah, well, I'll put it to you like this.
The line that NBA players can no longer remain silent.
I'm just, this is just me giving us some game here.
That statement doesn't make noise.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like, it might not be silent, right?
Like, you may have said something,
but it doesn't make noise.
Putting actual voice in actual names to things is what makes noise.
Now, who knows?
Things may change.
in between the time that I have recorded this and the time you see this, right?
There may be some campaign and people doing all the stuff on the internet
and putting out their pictures and statements individually as players or whatever it is.
But I know 14 years ago, almost 14 years ago, exactly.
Trayvon Martin was killed.
I think that was on February 26, 2012.
We saw what to me felt like one of the most moving and captivating things
that we had seen from athletes in my lifetime is when the heat put out that picture
with them with the hoodies up.
Like it was a, it was a bold state.
in that moment of solidarity with the people, right?
Capital T, capital P, the people.
We saw a continuation really from years into the Mike Brown situation in Ferguson.
And it really goes all the way through 2020 with George Floyd where there was a very visible face.
I mean, obviously, Colin Kaepernick in between there.
My bad.
Almost missed that one.
The players, their faces and their voices were very clear.
and resonant when these things were happening in the world.
The first term of the Trump administration,
you saw and heard a lot from players
kind of pushing back about on what was going on there.
Now, for what is worth, these times are different.
I've gotten on here and talked about how it doesn't feel nearly as safe
to say what it is that you believe or you feel.
Like when that Kimmel thing happened with Trump or whatever,
it doesn't feel as easy as it used to be to talk about these things.
but it is to me quite no worthy that the tenor and the sound of athletes is much different than it was before.
But the truth is that is not something I blame them for.
The tenor of the athlete is different because the tenor of the people is different.
The tenor of the times is different.
And I have long felt that many have in times like these, look to athletes,
it felt as though athletes had a responsibility to speak so that they could be,
heard because people would listen to them in times where they would not listen to other people.
But the truth is, the behavior of athletes in these times has actually typically been reactive
and reflective of the largest society rather than at the vanguard of that society.
And that's not to say that there are not people who are speaking up against what is going on
now with ICE, but the noise doesn't feel the same.
Um, with all that said, though, I guess I am a little surprised that it ain't like one or two people
or somebody that's just super duper loud, um, about what this is. Like, it feels like there was
years and years and work and effort to just change the tenor of conversation in sport that
discussed the larger world. Um, like when I worked at ESPN, I don't work at ESPN. I don't work
at ESPN in various capacities, really for about 20 years.
I never once had anybody
encouraged me not to talk about something.
Even the thing I had happened with that T-shirt
that one time. They had some shit to say when I wasn't around,
but nobody ever said anything to meet, really.
You know, like, I never, like, this idea
that they was just go come and shut everybody down,
that was something I never felt when I was there.
And I generally felt like as long as I was saying,
what I was saying was true and I could support it with some evidentiary basis,
that I ultimately wound up being okay.
After we got like into the Trump administration,
Kaepernick took a knee in 2016, 2017 is when it kind of hit the fan
because Trump called them boys, sons of bitches and everything went kind of haywire.
We didn't talk as much about the things that were happening in the world,
but I also felt like the discussion in the larger new zeitgeist
was not in that, was not there.
Like, I felt like if the topics of the world
move back into those places,
then the discussion in and around sport
would also move to around those places,
in part because the athletes would talk about them,
and then we would wind up going there.
And that hasn't happened.
Like, the world's on fire.
Right?
I think we all generally agree with that.
The world is on fire.
Okay?
It seems to be getting worse and not better.
Right.
And we've done a full year of Trump's return.
And it's come with a whole lot of stuff, right?
Do you feel like you've heard the voice of the athlete in this?
Because I do not.
I just don't.
And look, they got their reasons.
I'm not as loud about a lot of these things as I used to be.
For me, it is in large part because I have gotten older
and I felt like the means and mechanisms that I used to talk about things,
largely social media stopped being affected.
Like I gave up on the end.
entirety of that experiment as a way to say serious things, right? I can do more or I'm inclined to do
more now with this show and this point and this times. Like I'm, I'm rounding into a different
kind of shape about these things because I now, it's coming up to one of the few times where I didn't
feel for a long time like there was much that I needed to say that wasn't obvious. Right. It was all
so transparent. So like, why am I there? Young people don't. They typically operate in a different
space. You know what I mean? They tend to be a little bit more gangster wow with what they do. And
They just feel the need to be heard.
And it don't feel like any of them really feel the need to be heard right now.
Like, LeBron got in trouble.
Not really trouble, but he did something incredibly stupid in tone deaf.
And I've mentioned it kind of vaguely the other day on the show.
But his people, him and Nike put out a shoe in honor of Martin Luther King,
that's kind of like this like motel green, like 60s motel green,
like the Lorraine Motel,
Green, which is to say that they thought the way to honor Martin Luther King was a shoe that was
inspired by the hotel that he got shot at. They thought that some James air rays were the way
to pay tribute to Martin Luther King, which is ridiculous, right? There's a zillion people that you
complain for this. Fine. What I would stop and make note of is that if you want to honor Martin Luther
King, by trying to find a way to sell us a color way, I'd kind of like to know what you think about
this stuff, right? And the reason I would say that about him is because we've seen him do it
before. We've seen him be at the forefront of these things, right? And in 2020, remember what he was
in the bubble with like the leader to society shirt and all of that, right? I'm not saying this
in an accusatory fashion. I'm very curious as to why we hear less from him now. Like, I would
love to know, and look, this isn't just about the NBA players, because it's unfair. Like, hey,
man, these white folks is out here getting smoked in the streets, right? Like, this isn't a,
this isn't necessarily, and I think it's somewhat telling that it's white people getting smoked
in the streets and it's still the basketball players that are ones that are standing up
and putting out the statement as much as that is standing up, right? I want to know from a whole lot
of these guys, right? White people typically get to slack and they don't have to answer for what's going
on with the world and all of this stuff, right? So I don't want to reinforce the idea that this is a
black responsibility. But people who I heard truly not that long ago be vocal and visible,
I would love to know why they aren't right now. Are we simply as a society exhausted,
right? Did COVID and George Floyd, like, really get the last out of us in terms of a
sort of collective action when it comes to these things, right?
But it's different.
And I think that all of us could stand to ask ourselves why it's different, and not just
for them, but in some ways, why is it different from us?
One point somebody made to me that I thought was good, my man, Jason, is just kind of,
as social media has turned into something so ultimately useless and unproductive,
And as the tenor of it got to be so toxic and so argumentative,
I think it's probably more difficult to organize around social media.
It's probably more difficult to build a community around the issue that you were talking about.
It just kind of becomes a place to scream and for people to scream at each other.
And if you have a generation that has been raised on social media,
and that's the means through which they communicate, I could see why they would be burnout from talk.
about any of this because I know how burnout I have felt at different points.
But things have changed in a way that I think is bad.
And I think that maybe we should ask ourselves how to change it the other way.
All right, Bo, let's get to some voicemails.
Speaking of changing.
Speaking of change.
Way to go, wipe.
Way to go.
Let's hear from a good friend of the show.
I like to ask this question.
Come on, y'all.
The Big Ten is taking over the network.
Michigan won a championship
Ohio State won a championship
Indiana won the championship
three in a row
That's three repeat the Big Ten won the championship
Come on recruiters
Come on my booster
We can't out pimped
We're from Alabama
We got the gold in our mouth
And the green is for the money
And gold is for the honey
There's no way we should have
A small town
A small town like Indiana
All they got is cornfield
We got deer
We got cows.
We got everything you want.
And we ain't winning a national championship.
Come on, Texas.
Step your game up.
You got Jerry Jones.
You got all the biggest pimple booster in there.
You got 80-year-old booster.
And we all ain't winning no championship.
Something is wrong, man.
And we got to start spending our money, though.
And we can let this happen.
Everybody's going to go to the porter to Indiana, Ohio State.
And we got to get back Alabama, Texas.
We got to step our game up.
Pimp is not good.
and we let these small
city take over our
network. Not the
Big Ten is not a good network.
Alabama. We got to get those booster back up.
We got to get back. We got to go find these old
grandfather with the money and start
pimping these guys again.
Texas. Them Loanhorn.
You got to raise their hand, man. Y'all getting too soft
down there. Y'all got a commercial
with a damn cow running down the street.
Start recruiting these boys again.
All right? This is West
side Mike, they call me DJ Mike.
Hit me, I'm telling you something.
Alabama will win a national championship because I'm going to be back a boost of.
We're going to stop pimping these boys again.
Have a good day.
Okay, we're not going to pimp them.
I'm going to throw that far out there.
I will say this.
The show does not endorse this.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I mean, they was pimping them back in the day, though.
So I guess, you know, when Alabama was winning, that's what it was.
We have not talked about Indiana winning the championship since.
Indiana won the championship. It is insane that Indiana won a national championship at football.
Like every, every football program, they should have been a team meeting the next day.
Right. And I don't know who's called. And I don't know who's called on the meeting, but somebody
needed to get cussed out in that moment. I told you, Wake Forest won the ACC in 2006.
Everybody got fired in the next two years. No excuses. Nobody had any excuses left. They got a
64-year-old coach up there.
And they went and won a national championship
on the other team home field.
That happened.
That happened.
The SEC boy, all that SEC talk,
it just, it's not, I can't believe the big,
I just can't believe any of it.
Because I still think the SEC is better than the Big Ten.
I think the Big Ten has had the best team in the country
three years in a row.
Right. And they won it wire to wire.
Like, we're, like, did,
didn't get hot, didn't get lucky, were the best team of the country from Labor Day till
mid-June.
Well, hold up.
Don't forget this.
They got smoked in the playoff by Notre Dame last year.
And so we're just like, okay, there's a ceiling on this.
It was a cute story.
And then they went to Oregon for the regular season game and won that game by like 10 points
on the road.
Right.
Then came back and beat them again in the playoff.
Like, they went and took a step.
This wasn't a, like last year was kind of, oh, this is cute.
They was like, okay, now we're about to win.
Beed Ohio State.
Beat Ohio State.
Neutral site.
I mean, neutral-ish, but.
Man, there are a lot of Ohio State fans in Indianapolis, too.
Everywhere.
They're everywhere.
They are unavoidable.
All right, here's our next one.
First off, Bo, the Knicks are not winning the East.
Okay.
The pisses are going to get rid of them in five.
But to my question, is the NBA?
Who is the Josh Allen of the NBA?
Meaning, no matter how many times they choke, fall apart, the media always makes an excuse.
My answer is going to always be the most overrated point guard in the NBA, which is Chris Paul.
Because all he has done is get hurt and lose to Steph Curry.
So I just want to know from you who is the Josh Allen of the NBA.
It could be currently or of all time.
Love to show, man.
Thank you.
I mean, I got to be honest,
I don't really feel like people make that many excuses for Chris Paul.
Like, I see a great deal of celebrating when things don't go well for Chris Paul.
I think the Josh Allen of the NBA has to be a current player.
I had a historical one.
Okay, so I have a current one that bears a lot of Josh Allen's
similarities as it relates to how people respond to when he doesn't do what he's supposed to do or the way they react to some of his shortcomings. And I bet you can guess who it is. I'm really blanking on a curl. All right. So I'll give you another hint. You know, there's some reasons in part why people root so hard for Josh Allen, vis-a-vis some of his peers. Who has borne some of that characteristic in the NBA? I say Luke Dodgish.
There we go.
Luca,
hey man,
I saw somebody put on the internet
about Luca not playing defense
that you know Luca
don't play defense.
So you got to put people around him
that dude.
And that AJ asking Luca to play defense
is just too much.
I was going pre-211 Dirk.
Ooh, see, I think,
I don't know,
maybe I was just in different rooms.
When Dirk,
when they lost that series in 07,
and then in 08,
he let David West tap him on the jaw.
We was over here.
Killing Dirk.
Killing.
I guess the soft European thing didn't make him one of us.
Yeah, yeah, he was getting killed.
That was the thing.
Dirk changed the whole game for all the Europeans by winning that one, right?
Powell Gassal, that was cool, but we still thought you was soft.
You know what I'm saying?
Dirk came out there and did that that year.
Nobody's one ring changed everything, quite like Dirk's one ring, changed everything.
All right, here's our last one.
This is Matt in OC, and I was listening to the White Reggie calls.
And that reminded me I spent some time in Northeast Alabama.
It's the only place I ever ran into this situation.
What about White Jailants?
Because there were a mess of them in North Alabama.
Never heard of it before.
Never heard of it since.
But yeah, White Jalen.
Love the show.
Listen soon.
Bye.
Now, the question you need to ask yourself,
brother is are you sure they're white like for example you have seen john kitten the son i've
not seen i've not seen i've not seen okay now i i hope again to call back to our conversation i
hope he has a j name not a k name and uh he's a jaden or a jalen one of the two i can't remember
which but first of all if you google him the new stories are going to be
tricky. Oh, yeah. Right. But just look at a picture of him. Okay. I thought that he was white Jalen or what,
it's Jalen, right? Yes. Jalen. I thought he was white Jalen and then I saw a picture of his mom.
Huh, uh, up, up, plot twist. No, he was not white Jalen. He was just quite like Jailen.
What I think may be happening in these cases with these white Jailens in North Alabama,
I would assume that there is a Y in there, because one of white mama is involved.
the Jalen takes all some permutations that normally involved there being a Y,
especially in like the last syllable, like J-A-L-Y-N.
You know what I'm saying?
J-J-A-Y-L-N, J-A-L-Y-N, or the J-A-D-Y-N, I don't know why.
The white woman who may have like a slainty haircut and some big old bangles, you know what I'm saying?
That's what she tend to wind up doing that with the name.
So as it relates to white Jalen, we don't know how white, the white J-Laylor
actually is. And number two, once again, shout out to Jalen Rose's mama. She cooked with that one.
She really did change the world with the name she gave her son. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this four times a week.
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