The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Darnold Leads Seahawks to Super Bowl, McCarthy to Steelers, Deion Fining Players? | 01.26

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

Bomani Jones starts off the show by reacting to both the NFC & AFC championship games, and talks about the stakes ahead for both Sam Darnold & Drake Maye. Later, he discusses the Steelers' hiring of M...ike McCarthy and how out of character it is for the organization. Finally, he breaks down Deion Sanders' decision to fine his players, Lane Kiffin's insane tweet, and the ongoing crisis in Minneapolis, and why athletes aren't speaking out the way they used to. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. We got a lot going on in the world to talk about.
Starting point is 00:00:24 But the first thing I want to get out here and talk about is the fact, now we don't know nothing. And I'm going to tell you how I know that we don't know nothing. We don't know nothing because last night, and really throughout the duration of this whole season, Sam Darnold been out here throwing the ball to, you know, there's one exception I can think of, but otherwise, Sam Darnold out here throwing a ball to a bunch of white boys
Starting point is 00:00:55 and they're about to go to the Super Bowl. Everything you ever thought you knew about the world goes out the window when you think about that. Sam Darnold out there throwing it to a Cooper, a Jake, What's the other one, Ryan? Not even a Jake, a Bobo. Yeah, Jake Bob. I say Jake Bubble, right?
Starting point is 00:01:12 Like, there's another white duty I did throw it to. And like, ain't none of them like Matt Conkey. He fast, right? Yeah. They just out here, I guess Cooper Cup at one point was fast. Yeah. And by the way, they didn't just win that game like with Sam Donald around. They won the game with Sam Donald throwing for like 800 yards.
Starting point is 00:01:33 What are we doing here? What is the world? Like as much as we talk about that with the Seattle defense, that isn't what happened in this game. That wasn't it. Like, you know, I've been saying, hey, man, ain't no, get out of here, but there's Matthew Stafford going to the Hall of Fame situation
Starting point is 00:01:50 if he lose a game to San Donald. But I can't even really fully, like, go full-froated about that one because he threw for 800 yards too. Right. And they're going. They're going. I just want to say this right fast because it's,
Starting point is 00:02:05 I don't want to seem like I'm insulting guys, and I don't want to really do this during Super Bowl week because it's not fair. But I'm trying to think how far back we got to go to get a quarterback matchup, quite like the one that we're going to have in this Super Bowl. And it's interesting because Drake may, two guys that were number three picking the draft, Drake may ultimately be that guy. Sam Darnold turned out not to be that guy, but it's proven to be a guy who has actually not been that good for like the last month and change,
Starting point is 00:02:30 but suddenly it all got dialed up in the course of this game. And here we are. 2026. There we go. I want to call Cortez and tell them a happy new year. Yeah, just to do it. After that situation,
Starting point is 00:02:45 hey man, I have to say, that was an excellent football game with the Rams and the Seahawks. Like, it's one of those where I don't even feel like analyzing it really, you know, gets down to the point. Or it only matters but so much, I guess is the way to look at it.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Like I found myself as I was watching it being less like, man, I got to think about what we going to talk about tomorrow. Then I felt in the course of watching it like, damn, man, this is, this is fun. This is what you want. This is one of those where you almost wish, well, I don't know if that's a fair way to put it. I was just going to say, like, this is certainly a rivalry of sorts, I imagine, to the people who really care about these teams. And then that even gets to be a little bit weird because of the Rams and their relocation.
Starting point is 00:03:40 But if this were like a traditional rivalry, like, Ryan, can you imagine if this was the Falcons and the Saints having this kind of game? Now, of course, the Falcons and the Saints would never play each other this late in the year. Never this late in the year with this good a quarterback play on both sides. It would never happen. Understand this. I don't know if you even realize this. In the year 1991, the Saints and the Falcons played against each other in the wild card round of the playoffs. at the Superdome.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And the Falcons won that game. And the winner was going to rack up their first playoff win ever. Two teams that have been in the league for 25 fucking years. And the only way one of them could win a playoff game was to play the other. Which, which, where was A-Ber playing at the time? That was A-Ber. That was A-Ber. But for who?
Starting point is 00:04:28 No, oh, Bobby A-Bair was playing for the Saints. Chris Miller, I believe, was starting to go back. That's kind of my point. Yeah, yes, yes. No, ABA, ABA got there shortly there after. Yeah. I saw Bobby A. Bear throw six interceptions against the Oilers. Six interceptions.
Starting point is 00:04:46 But Seattle, when you can win, when your main unit ain't really doing the thing, you're doing, you have got a team. And they're one of those teams that just where you watch them and you're like, oh, they look well coached. You know what I mean? like everybody seems to be where they're supposed to be. The one time they didn't seem well, Coach, it seems very clear to be Ryan that that boy Rieke Willembe be doing dumb shit all the time. And the way that I know that is, look,
Starting point is 00:05:18 I ain't gonna lie, man. And, you know, y'all will understand what I'm saying if you get a little bit mad. I thought that was a real Caucasian officiating when they hit him for that 15 yards for like taunting the sideline. Like he wasn't over there grabbing his jewels, mooning their.
Starting point is 00:05:34 even imaginary mooned them. Whatever he said had to have been particularly egregious. Well, it seemed like the ref told him to stop and then he kept on going. Then that's very Caucasian officiant. Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying, I felt... You tested that man's authority. Whatever happened to let him play, right?
Starting point is 00:05:49 Y'all always get out of here talking about this let him play situation. Now, I'm inclined to cut that man some slack and I know this ain't going to mean a whole lot to y'all, but that's a Fort Worth decision-making that he was engaging in right there. And he's from Fort Worth. Like, that's...
Starting point is 00:06:03 Fontytown don't think stuff. stuff all the way through. Right? Like it just, it just doesn't work like that. But when he got to the sideline and that other cat was like getting all of them about it, like I just realized, oh, he must do things like this all the time, right? I told you not to be doing stuff like that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I would also love to see what Rick Wilden's draft profile was. He is a six foot four corner who ran a four to six at the combine and, was drafted in the fifth round, what was he doing in those interviews? What was he saying to those people to where they were like, oh, no. Maybe we'll get him another day. No, no, but I'd say this, that is definitely a guy Pete Carroll drafts. Yes. Pete Carroll's like, oh, yeah, we'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Six-four? Yeah. Look, six-four quarters are unwieldy because it's a lot of like small space maneuvering. But at the same time, six-four run four to six. Yeah. We can figure something out. We can see what this is. But okay, how much, I mean, we'll have two weeks to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:07:10 How much Sam Darnold are we about to be out here believing? And if Sam Darnold and the Seahawks win the Super Bowl together, how long before somebody tells me that he belongs in the Hall of Fame? Just throwing it out there, just asking the question. We just out here. It's harder than ever to get in the Hall of Fame. And we just out here. Putting everybody in.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah, but that's afraid we got to retire. Like the future Hall of Famer, we're going to need to know. old. You know what I mean? And that's not just about Stafford. Now, look, if you guys want to put Stafford in the Hall of Fame, I'm kind of giving up on the idea, although I'm still holding strong on Eli Manning. Y'all seem to at least be putting up a fight about that madness. But I already forgot what I was going to say right fast. Don't you hate it when that happens. Yeah. I'm still mad. I was just telling Brian, man, I had a line that was so cold and I ain't want to hit him with it last night because I ain't want to ruin it when I said it this morning
Starting point is 00:08:07 and I acted like I am not 45 years old, and I woke up, and that, that, it's never coming back. It's gone. And I'm telling you, you were going to be in the floor. It was first class, amazing work, and poof. Gone. Now it's gone. But I do think, though, and by the way, for those of you who are wondering, gee, why don't you want, why aren't you talking about the, the AFC championship game for what?
Starting point is 00:08:34 What is there to talk about? Like, like, dead ass, what is there for us to talk about? other than the fact of we ain't, you know what, this is what there is to talk about when it comes to that game. There are some lies that people have to tell. I'm an adult. I recognize this. Sean Payton had to lie to us about Jericho.
Starting point is 00:08:58 You'll see. Just watch. I did. And those were three terrible hours. Okay. He's a backup quarterback. You know, if I'll put it to you like this, where they were just like, yo, Shaw of Peyton believed in him.
Starting point is 00:09:13 No, he didn't. You know how I know he didn't believe in him? Because he drafted Bownex. You know what I'm saying? He went out there drafted a quarterback about his age. I'm just saying. Auburn teammates. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:09:28 That all of us were, of whom all of us were wildly skeptical. Yeah. Right? And he was out there like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me go ahead and get me, let me go ahead and get me a real quarterback. Bonnix. And he went and got Bow, Bo Nex. next, right? So Stitt was out there, I felt so bad. He was suffering for full, all set
Starting point is 00:09:44 lemon booty that first drive. And as soon as I sent a tweet about it, he threw it at one pass. And then after that they were done. They had that situation. I have only really recalled seeing this in golf where at the turn of the weather changes, like half the people play around under one set of conditions, and then the other half play it under another. And that's what the second half was in that game. I mean, it was at the point where Vrable was calling just throw it away. plays. Right. The only thing you get you beat is Drake May taking a dump sack and fumbling. And he called the whole game avoiding that outcome. And by the way, those two outcomes were totally on the board. Yes. Totally on the board. And I want to say this to Drake May right now. Okay. Sam Darnold has
Starting point is 00:10:26 officially exceeded every expectation that we had after we recalibrated from our priors, right? I think Bayesian is the term that we're looking for. Right? We had our priors. We adjusted our priors. Is it Bayesian or Keynesian? These are Bayesian. Keynesian is when you start talking about like macroeconomic stuff, right? Bayesian is their probability things, okay? Yes. Keynesian is the adjustment to the priors.
Starting point is 00:10:58 He's good money forever. Take it. I'll tell you this right now. If you win this Super Bowl and we know quarterbacks don't win games. You're non-clicking motherfuckers, okay? So we don't have no misunderstanding there. Quarterbacks don't win games.
Starting point is 00:11:15 But if Drake May is the quarterback of the winning team under these circumstances, you are good, okay? It will make your career so much easier. I think Drake May is very talented. I think the ceiling is very high. Do I think Drake May will be better than Josh Allen? Nope. do I think that he will be better than Lamar Jackson?
Starting point is 00:11:41 Nope, but we about to be on them boys next from here and to forever, because we're about to watch either Drake May or Sam Donald win a Super Bowl, and those guys haven't even been there. They ain't even touched the grass in the Super Bowl. Drake May gets this one, brother, you straight, you straight. And you're not like Dan Marino. Dan Marino got there in his second year, but he had to go against literally one of the greatest football teams of all time,
Starting point is 00:12:11 the 1984 49ers. And when you think about the 49ers, all you need to know about 84 was the defense was probably better than the offense. Okay, right, everything you ever heard about the 49ers, and that's not saying the offense was overrated. The defense, Ryan, they had three pro bowlers in the secondary. Jesus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Let me go. What are we talking about here, all right? Dan Barrito never. Drake May, you go ahead and do this right now. Honestly, you could, if you win this right now and you keep playing, I'm gonna be looking at you. Like, I look at Clay Thompson. Like, dude, why are you still here?
Starting point is 00:12:48 Brother, if I was Clay Thompson, I wouldn't even know, like, there would be some games I would miss because I forgot. I'd be like, damn, we got a game tonight. Which no one would be surprised by because of Clay Thompson. Because it's Clay Thompson and the Mavericks. Like, why would you keep up with the Mavericks schedule, right? Yeah. Like, if I was Clay Thompson, it would be some games where I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:13:04 damn, we got a game tomorrow. All right, but hold on, man. Let me call my girl. No, man, I got to see. We got plans tomorrow, man. Let me see if she can change them. I mean, look, if we can change our plans, I'll come. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:15 But otherwise, like, Drake made with a Super Bowl, hey, man, all we going to do is, like, you've accomplished it all. This also sucks because, Ryan, we have the worst combination of things. The obnoxious Boston fan, they back in the game because the Patriots are back where they were, and they also have a legitimate underdog, feel good story sort of element of it.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And I never feel good about it. They can legitimately say no one believes in us. Because I sure didn't. I sure didn't. I sure don't. I sure don't. Now, I want to be fair to May, though, in the sense that he's played two games in terrible weather. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I would say that he has looked terrible. I have not felt good about the way that he has played. But there are, there's stories around it. Now, the issue for that Super Bowl and what we're going to talk about for a couple of weeks is that guy against an excellent defense. Yes. Based on what we've seen so far in the postseason. we're asking for a lot here. On the other side is going to be Sam Darnel playing against an NFL defense in a game that
Starting point is 00:14:12 really matters. Could go either way, right? This could be it. But I'm going to give it to the NFL, man. Y'all gave us a great postseason so far. You did. Like, I've thoroughly enjoyed all of this, everything that we've gotten. I think that this has been a great, like, exhibition of football, which is very important
Starting point is 00:14:33 because what we don't have is great. teams. And I know, what was it? I mean, my shots said it was like the best DVO way NFC championship game of all time or something like that. Yeah, I, I, so someone's going to have to break that down like a fraction for me because I did not. I never once what. And I feel like I've watched a decent bit of these two teams. Right. Never quite saw it, right? Never, never, quite saw it. You got to, I don't know, we obviously like giant peaks on both sides, but not. you know, you couldn't keep the consistency. No.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Throughout the year. Well, let me ask you this about Denver. Do you think the outcome would have been different if Bo Nix had played? And my answer is I'm not sure. I'm not sure because the weather was so drastic. Right. Because here's what worries me. Bo Jets.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Whoa, wow, almost. It did something sacrilegious. Bo Nix. You didn't do it. You got close. You were around in second. They both went to all. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:37 They both went to Auburn. Bo Dixon get out there and still think, I can do so. Right. I can make this happen. And look, they got, what, touchdown in the first half, right? Right. That was the reasonable expectation was that you could get a touchdown in the first half. They got the touchdown in the first half.
Starting point is 00:15:59 But I don't know. I just, I came out of that. It's so interesting. I came out of that with, wow, that one game was so good. I don't even really feel the need to talk about it. And then I came out of it with, that other game was so bad. I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Like I don't, I mean, I didn't want any parts of it. And now, Ryan, it's a long two weeks. Correct. It's a really, really long two weeks that is coming. My favorite thing of the long two weeks is the NBA. I don't know if it just worked out accidentally, but that trade deadline being right during Super Bowl week has come in handy to last, like,
Starting point is 00:16:36 South. Yeah, look, it was one thing with Super Bowl stuff when we didn't have as much media and as much space to fill in that week of Super Bowl, like the media day and everything else, like you'd go to your whole job, then you come back and be like, ooh, Super Bowl stuff. And it would be this treat the whole week that you would get to.
Starting point is 00:16:53 But now that we are always online. We're always talking about football. We ain't got enough stuff. We already know who all these people are. You know, like we are fully loaded up and aware of who all these people are. So by the time that week comes, It's like, yo, man, we're a little tapped out, man.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Can we just like, can we, can we get to the gang? Can we get this? Now, if you want to tell me that Marshaun Lynch going to post up with Jensrika's and they're going to do a daily briefing? Yeah, we're here. I'll watch that. I'm 100% here for that. Otherwise, let us be glad for the great football that we have had so far
Starting point is 00:17:28 and cross our fingers that the rest will be decent. All right, so, you know, I feel like all of us got kind of caught up. in small sample stuff over the last couple weeks or whatever. And what I mean by that is the Pittsburgh Steelers have only hired three coaches since
Starting point is 00:17:53 1969. Okay? Those three coaches bore similar characteristics. They were young coaches who were in their first jobs, who were defensive guys. They all ultimately wound up being coaches who won Super Bowl. So as a result,
Starting point is 00:18:10 we all thought that when the Steelers hired a head coach that it would be a defensive guy in his 30s who never had a job before. But all I can assume is that we were operating off of small samples, right? Like, this wasn't quite like the Raiders after they let John Madden go. And, well, they didn't let him go. John Madden left. But after John Madden left, every coach that Al Davis hired was an young offensive guy and the reason was, well, yeah, mostly young. Either way, they're all offensive guys and the reason was Al Davis ran his own defense, right? He didn't need a defensive coordinator. He just needed an offensive coordinator and then somebody to call plays on Sunday,
Starting point is 00:18:55 right? But we had enough times that he had changed over coaches that we understood that that right there was the pattern. Okay. Nope, the Steelers apparently just hired three coaches because everything that we thought we knew about them, they took it and they wiped their six. he keister with it because they went and hired Mike McCarthy to be their head coach. And I don't, I think that we are typically a little bit too hard on Mike McCarthy. And I have explained in the past why I think it is that y'all are so hard on Mike McCarthy. And it's because he's chubby, right? Like the rules get all messed up with chubby people come out here.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Y'all know how y'all treat chubby people. And if you don't want to believe me, go ask a chubby person. They will tell you how they get treated. But there's a, there's a way in which people don't take. Super Bowl champion, Mike McCarthy, seriously, that I think is tied to his weight. Ryan, you sent me to the joint with the numbers where he basically, it's kind of like he got the same track record as Joe, what's his name, John Harbaugh. I mean, him, Tomlin and John Harbaugh are kind of Spider-Man, me, me, me, each other
Starting point is 00:19:59 with the exact same resume. Now, obviously, I would not say the same level of coach, but the same level of resume. Yeah, yeah, but when you look at it, it's very, very, very similar. It's about 170 wins. It's one Super Bowl and not a lot of playoff wins since the first Trump presidency. Right. And when he got this job, McCarthy, when he got this job at the Cowboys, we're like, what in the world were they doing?
Starting point is 00:20:22 By the way, they were just fine, right? The problem was not Mike McCarthy. Now, there were some problems that you could say you have with his offense, but the problem was not Mike McCarthy. We are all a little bit too down on him. However, let me tell you, I have never seen Mike McCarthy do. I have never seen Mike McCarthy
Starting point is 00:20:44 coach a quarterback who was less than very good or dare I say excellent. Okay? He got a version of Brett Farve that was still pretty good. He got Aaron Rogers when he, at least regular season wise, was as good as any quarterback we have seen, just in terms of the pure execution
Starting point is 00:21:09 of playing football. He was as good as anybody that we had ever seen, right? Remove team success from it, everything else. Just like, wow, I can't believe how good this guy is. And then Dak Prescott was probably like, I would, right, I would say that Jack Prescott's not going to make the Hall of Fame, but shit, after what happened with Stafford. Oh, he just one trade, one trade to the right guy. That's right. Stick around long enough. He keeps getting better. Yeah. You still have a chance, buddy, but the bottom line is if the worst quarterback, that Mike McCarthy ever coach was Dak Prescott. He's been living good.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Right. Okay. Who the hell is going to play quarterback for the Steelers next year? Because I feel pretty confident that that's not going to bring Aaron Rogers back. I mean, I can't imagine a world, even if Aaron Rogers does come back. Correct. That's not what you want. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Right. If that's your best option, you don't have a lot of good options. Yeah. So what are they doing? They hired a coach who is in his, like, early mid of 60. right, it was 63, Ryan? Turned 63 next season. All right, it turns 63.
Starting point is 00:22:13 They're not starting over, right? They are not a, they're not a rebuild sort of thing. Let me say something that's wild. Up until that Minka Fitzpatrick trade, where they traded away first round pick to get him, they had a run for decades of every year making one first round pick. Never two, never zero,
Starting point is 00:22:36 one first round pick. Right? Like they have operated very much so in a process sort of thing. They don't believe in tearing it down. I understand if you don't believe in tearing it down, that's fine. My question is, what the hell do you think this team is that you have right now? And if your goal is or your game is, we are going to stay competitive with the roster that we have. And then you add Mike McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:22:58 It is implying to me that even though Mike Tomlin left of his own volition, you kind of think he was the problem. Right. because I mean, I don't, clearly you guys don't mind changing what you've done in the past. Oh, what is that small sample thing again? Because he just hired Mike McCarthy, right? You are clearly not wedded to everything you had done before. There have been articles that have come out that are implying that the Steelers are in a place that a lot of college programs get to.
Starting point is 00:23:25 North Carolina basketball is one I can think of around the majority era where you look up at what you got is a little bit stale, right? And you've always been able to get by on whatever the name was and all of this. but then you look up and everybody else is doing all these things and you've been so wedded to what you're doing because everybody talks about what it is that you do, and then you look up and it's like, oh, snap, man, we need to get some other things going, right? That is what has kind of been implied in reporting that we're seeing around the Steelers right now.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I just don't see how Mike McCarthy makes anything better. And I feel like if he ain't making it better, he's making it worse. To me, when you were talking about college football there, I thought you were talking, going to get to the point where it seems that all politics is local. And there's a lot of reporting going around. Part of the reason Mike McCarthy is getting his job. Because he's from Pittsburgh. From Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:24:10 It's certainly not, it's not a factor. Yeah, but that, what the hell of, if that's what they're doing, is that, that can't be all it takes, right? I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:20 they're gonna hire, what's his name? They watched it. All right, like, under these, like, I'm sure, I'm sure his name's been pitched. And I look,
Starting point is 00:24:28 and I know this. I was just looking at ESPN.com. Ryan, I don't know if you've seen this, but the headline is, uh, Rooney to fans, Steelers, quote,
Starting point is 00:24:36 excited about Mike McClain And Mike McCarthy is many things, but he's not exciting. Even if you think he's effective, even if you think he's the right man for the job, he is not excited. Listen to this. We're not worried about winning the initial press conference. See, that's when you know. You know anybody trying to hear this shit, man.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And look, courage to them. Like, when you know you're making a call that people aren't going to like, but you're going to do it anyway, hey, there's a certain level of G that I suppose you have to have in you in doing that. just none of us understand what, like, I feel bad for McCarthy in the sense that he can't answer the questions. You know what I mean? Like the questions we have about this decision are not questions that he can answer
Starting point is 00:25:22 by telling us about what the scheme is going to be or telling us what the staff is going to be. What, we don't, we don't understand this. Yeah, I just, everything about this hire, we talked about it being one of the best jobs available because you were going to get a long runway, you were going to be able to grow into the job because we assumed they would hire someone
Starting point is 00:25:43 from their late 30s or early 40s, and now they've hired someone just the most retread of all retreads. Yes. Like someone who's coached, again, lots of experience for probably the two of the other grammar franchises in the NFL, but like if you
Starting point is 00:26:03 pushed Mike Tomlin out because he couldn't get over get over the hump. Right. And so you bring in Mike McCarthy. I just don't understand the logic. Well, here's the problem or where I think this will be interesting is because of his age, you don't really have the option of patience. I don't think.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Like, you can sell patience with your 35-year-old guy and you're like, hey, we gave him a five-year contract and we're going to, like, we've made this decision right here and now that this is a five-year play and we're going to, you know, see where it goes. especially with the Steelers who have one of the oldest rosters in the NFL. Right, right. Like you, but you could get up there and say, hey, look, we're going to see how this goes. You know how we do things.
Starting point is 00:26:46 You can't do that with a guy that's 60-something years old. Nobody's trying to hear about the time that you're willing to give him or the time that you're going to afford him. Nobody wants to hear this. So I don't, I wish I had an answer for what exactly it is that they're going to do from here. Nobody. I don't think anybody has the answer for what it is that they are going to do. It is not exciting.
Starting point is 00:27:12 They said that, you know, the Steelers said that they're excited. Somebody has to be. Nobody else is excited about this move. Also, Ryan, this, did they look at the rest of these coaches and just be like, it ain't really hitting? Right. I mean, I would rather have Robert Sullivan. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:27:34 what a weird cycle where Sala takes the Titans job. Right. Right? Because here's one thing I do know that Sala's going to do. Sala's going to bring in some form of the Shanahan offense, right? He's going to go find some one of the, some 32-year-old guy. There's got, there's always another Kubiak. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:54 You know, like Chris. Chris Kubiak or you know, whatever. K-R-I-S. K-R-I-S-C-C-U-Y. Clay-Cubia. Kila Ku-Koo-E. Killa Koobes, right? Like one of them is going to be there.
Starting point is 00:28:07 You know it's so funny. You've seen this thing with Khan Knieple. We're Khan Kniple and all the all the canipples have names that start with K. And the question immediately was, what's your middle name? Of course. I haven't seen anybody ask this about these Kubeyaks.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And I'm going to find out right now. Like I hope that there is a level of self-awareness about Alexander. Like Alexander Kubiak. I recall. I would go by Alex. Yeah, I recall having a teacher whose initials were a K and then a K and then a K. Got to change your name. Well, well, now you do.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I'm not sure if then you had to, right? I don't have. But that option is always available. It's always on the board, man. It's always on the board, right? Like, you get. There's lots of ways. People change your name every day.
Starting point is 00:28:59 There's lots of ways to change your day. You ain't even got to go Muslim. You know what I'm saying? You ain't even got to get it on your official paperwork. You know, but you got, sometimes you got to make an adjustment. Speaking of the need to make an adjustment, they're talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers. Have you also, I'm intrigued also by these guys like McCarthy,
Starting point is 00:29:21 not McCarthy, Mike McDaniel did this, Brian Flores did this, where they jumped on the bird in the hand of these assistant jobs. But you know, the rule is you can't stop somebody from interviewing for a head job. Right. if they are an assistant coach. So McDaniel's got that job with Harbaugh-Floriz. Apparently is staying with Minnesota, which surprised me for a couple of reasons.
Starting point is 00:29:42 But they're also still kind of out there interviewing for jobs. Now, look, man, I don't think nobody giving Brian Flores no job. Still is new him. Yeah. And they said, no thank you. All right, for whatever it's worth, right? They said, no thank you. This is a weird market.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I think that's the only way that you're really saying. On Friday, the bill's interviewed Philip River. Holy shit, I forgot about that already. Guys, in case you did not know this, this truly happened. On Friday, the Bill's interview Philip Rivers. It was so funny because you sent me a text about it, and you had made mention of the point that also Josh Allen was going to be sitting here on interviews.
Starting point is 00:30:21 And I'm like, I can't believe anybody cares about that right now. He's going to sit in on an interview. Yeah, and Philip Rivers is going to be the one that's making the presentation. What? I'm also trying to imagine Philip Rivers, because he's not a, like, he's a high. school coach, but he ain't been a coach like this. Is he all Chad GPT right now cooking up his PowerPoint and like cranking out who the staff is going to be? Whose idea was this? Did they call
Starting point is 00:30:45 him? Did he call them? I would rather have Philip Rivers than Mike McCarthy. It's, it's, I see the point. I see the argument. I don't know what's. I don't know if it's a good, that's personal preference. Yeah, yeah, but I don't know. I don't know any of what's going on here. I do know, I do want to say this, though, about the Josh Allen sitting in on. I don't see, that, that didn't move me at all, right? Um, I don't, I guess this is not really commonplace in the NFL. I wonder if this also happened because Bishadhi in Baltimore, where he said, Lamar, if you wanted to have a say so about who the coach was, and why don't you get on
Starting point is 00:31:22 the plane with me, we come up here and we do these interviews, right? And maybe Josh Allen was like, huh. Yeah. They were also interviewing people in Florida. So you might have just been avoiding, you know, Buffalo. time of here. No, could be,
Starting point is 00:31:36 right? But I think, I don't, I think we all need to be honest about the level of power that Josh Allen has. Right. With this team.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And even if he's not in the interviews, they're not hiring a coach without Josh Allen being like, yeah, I can see it. Yeah. Right? Like, this is not,
Starting point is 00:31:56 this is not Jerry Jones hiring Barry Switzer and then telling Troy Aitman about it, right? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to, this decision will. always going to involve Josh Allen in a way prominent enough that that didn't get me. It's the, hey, Philip Rivers did a good job playing as an old man.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Why don't we make him a coach? I hear he's doing a good job coaching at a private school in Alabama. What? What are, what are, what? And see, and this is the thing, man? If they'll invite him to interview, it's a good chance he'll get the job. Because clearly they're crazy. You do not call Philip Rivers unless you're actually considering it.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Right, right. Somebody's like, ooh, we'll see. I'd tell you this. I wish I could get into group chat with some of the brothers in the Fritz Potter Alliance. I'd love to know what they thought with the Philip Rivers, the Philip Rivers email came through. Like, what are you saying? Like, it was funny when Jeff Saturday got the job with the cults a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:33:04 and I know Jeff and I like Jeff a lot. It was so crazy that they gave him the job that I didn't even have time to get around to a Rudy rule discussion because the white boys had room to be just as bad as everybody else. Everybody was like, yo, fuck, are you serious? Like, he on TV right now.
Starting point is 00:33:23 What are you talking about? You had to get off the first take, second, set and get on a private plane to Indianapolis. Yeah, that's why it's actually so funny. I'm talking about the brothers being mad about this in Philadelphia Rivers. Again, the white boys is a point. at arms. Joe Brady's got to be like,
Starting point is 00:33:36 he can't be fucking serious. I've been up here freezing my ass off for years. Years. I got the big glued under control. And now you go with, what? He don't even got his own whistle. It's the last call for football on Fan Duel. One final Sunday.
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Starting point is 00:37:08 wait to practice $500, no show practice, $2,500. Wait to treatment, $1,000. No show to a meeting or film session, $2,000, amongst others. Bo, what was your reaction to this? All right, so Penny Hardaway apparently also came around to institute and fines. And that went great. Yeah, right. Well, we're in this ambiguous situation of, is this the pros?
Starting point is 00:37:38 And the issue is this. And this is where I imagine it drives a guy like Dion crazy. They are being paid like professionals, but they are still teenagers, right? Right. Or in that zone. They are not, even if they're professional, they're not pros. I mean, they're still 19. Yeah, yeah, they're not pros.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Right. They're not going to comport themselves as pros. And Dion sees himself as running a pro program. Did you see the clip talking about, like, him and recruits. cornerbacks. And he's like, he doesn't recruit 511 cornerbacks because he doesn't see 511 cornerbacks playing in the NFL. And that would matter a lot of he was recruiting for an NFL team, right?
Starting point is 00:38:19 But they're not. Or he was, you know, at Alabama. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you don't, like, you don't, I don't think that he has that luxury. And even if, like, if your game plan is, I'm building an NFL, like, style program. Yeah, but you can't afford to make those kinds of decisions. And maybe this is the kind of thing that happens when you're in the, NFL. I have two questions. Question number one, if they don't pay, then what? Right? Question number two,
Starting point is 00:38:52 where's the money going? Because normally when you got these kind of fines and stuff like this, it's like kangaroo court type of stuff, right? Like you put it in a pot. Like a swear jar for a company party or something? Yeah, yeah, no, but you're like put in a pot and then you like throw a party at the end of the year or something like that with the money that people put into this, man, he's got $2,500 fines in here, $2,000 fines. And look, man, he's a kid. I don't care how much money you paying them. Some of them is broke right now.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And you're like, well, I guess you can't afford to be late to practice. When they're late to practice, Dion, what you're about to do, right? What are you? I don't know. I can't, I don't, I get where he's coming from. I guess it's the part that I get the logic. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to pretend like I don't really understand it. And what I don't have a great handle on is what kind of money the guys at the end of the roster are making on this team.
Starting point is 00:39:52 You know, Colorado's not a school that has a whole lot of money to give guys. You know, like their five-star left tackle they recruited a couple years ago is leaving. And I'm sure it's because Colorado just doesn't have the money to keep them. But I just don't, I don't think this is going to go the way. that he thinks it's going to go. Or this leads me to another question, do you have this much of a problem with getting guys to come to stuff?
Starting point is 00:40:16 Like, have these guys been skipping out on you? Have they not been showing up the treatment? Like, is this something that's been going on that we don't know about? Because I feel like you should be able to take care of this with old-fashioned steps. Like, steps. Gassers.
Starting point is 00:40:32 You know what I'm saying? Vicious workouts in the heat. Get out and run that stadium. Yeah, yeah. Like when did that stuff stop working? And now you got to get them to pay $2,500. I don't know anyone, no matter how much money they have, who wants to give up $2,500.
Starting point is 00:40:49 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Nobody. I just don't, I can't believe, I can't believe that he thinks it needed to come to this. Right. Like, that, to me, does not speak well of your capacity as a leader. If you have to kind of sort of bribe them to do what they're supposed to do at this point in their lives.
Starting point is 00:41:07 But also, I've never had to try to tell a rich 18-year-old what to do. Yeah, I do not want to be the disciplinarian for a bunch of millionaire 18-year-olds either. This is the problem with this whole new setup. And I don't know how many people are going to say it out loud, but I'd be the one to say it. Nobody likes rich teenagers. Nobody does. No, like not a soul likes a teenager with more money than them. And that's all these little, so all these little people are is 85 of, for most people, it's 85 of them, right?
Starting point is 00:41:44 Like, Joel tells the story, and he's told this in public, so I have no problem repeating it. When he was covering preps, he did, he was in Dallas, and he did something where he interviewed Chris Bosch. And after they got done with the interview, they walk out to the parking lot, and Chris Bosch got into an explorer. I think it was a new explore. And I don't remember what kind of car Joel was driving. But all you need to know is that after watching Chris Bosch getting his explorer and Joel get in his Hatermobile, he immediately went to go purchase a new car because he could not be studded on by the 17-year-old in this manner. I can imagine what Joel was making as a pre-preps reporter. Preps, newspapers.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I know, I mean, it was the night. In 2001. Yeah. And all I'm saying is this. All of these kids is doing that to just about all of us. And what I mean us, I mean, y'all. But this is kind of what it is. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Speaking of college coaches, Lane Kiffin got himself in trouble, tweeting out a picture of two make Baton Rouge great hats and then tagging the president. Bo, Wayne Kiffin, are you surprised? That's your guy. it's your guy. And the thing with Lane is, I have a hard time believing
Starting point is 00:43:07 that Lane believes in Trump because I have a hard time believing Lane believes in anything. Like I can't, he's all, everything with him is so random and he's such a troll that who knows, right? It doesn't, in some ways,
Starting point is 00:43:23 it doesn't matter if he believes this or not, okay? Read the room, man. Are you watching TV right now? Like, are you people, Come on, man. You can't be doing this. Like, this is, this is not, I don't know. This doesn't seem worth the squeeze. And he deleted it and then he, what he, he sent it out,
Starting point is 00:43:40 when he sent it out because it was linked to Trump's official account. And then he deleted that and then sent it back out without a link to Trump. Correct. Right. And look, for all we know, he just came across these, these hats on the street. Somebody was selling them. I have no idea. My thing is, if I was one of them LSU people,
Starting point is 00:43:58 where my problem with him would be was the hat didn't. say make Baton Rouge great again. It just said make Baton Rouge great to which I respond, what you're trying to to say, bro. You just got here. You know what I'm saying? And I'll tell you, I had one of the best weekends of my life in Baton Rouge on a whole $20. I know
Starting point is 00:44:14 people have their criticisms of it, but you do Baton Rouge right. You can have a really good time. Please note, though, I was 20. I also had a great time in Baton. He was 20 years old. He said, make it great, but not even great again. Yeah. Like, yo, y'all need to step, y'all, shit up. That's what he said. And I just don't feel like you can walk in the door talking like that.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Lane Kiffin, living by the tweet and dying by the tweet, will end exactly how we think it all well. Look, man, you guys went from one kind of impossible to like coach to a different archetype of impossible to like coach, but still suffering from the same broad affliction. All right. And a little bit more serious nose, uh, ice is, uh, killed another protester in Minneapolis. Protests have gone out throughout the weekend. An NBA game was postponed. Bo, what were your thoughts on the situation?
Starting point is 00:45:13 So, you know, not in the habit of watching people get a shot. Like, I've opted out of that. Enough people have described to me what happened in that video that I don't know if I have anything novel or of particular interest to say about it. It is noteworthy how flagrant these actions have become. I think brazen is probably the word. The cockamamie explanations that come on the back end.
Starting point is 00:45:41 In fact, if these acts happen in the first place, full on awareness that when they're going on, there's cameras there. And so it makes you feel like they're not even doing this on the standpoint of I hope nobody sees it. You got to feel like they want somebody to see it at this point. You know, like this is, I don't know if it's, we're sending a message, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I don't know. What I thought about in seeing this. And, you know, Ryan and I kind of, you know, bouncing my ideas off each other over the weekend. And right before we got on to do this, we both saw that the National Basketball Players Association had sent a tweet and, well, a statement via a tweet. And it says, following the news,
Starting point is 00:46:25 if you had another fatal shooting in Minneapolis, the city that has been on the forefront of the fight against injustices, NBA players can no longer remain silent. Now more than ever, we must defend the right of freedom of speech and stand in solidarity with the people in Minnesota protesting and risking their lives to demand justice. The fraternity of NBA players, like the United States itself, is a community enriched by its global citizens, and we refuse to let the flames of division threaten the civil liberties that are meant to protect us all. The NBPA and its members extend our deepest condolences to the families of Alex Pretti and Renee Good, just as our thoughts.
Starting point is 00:46:57 remain focused on the safety and well-being of all members of our community. Ryan, let me know if I'm off here in a way, but like I feel like I was personally glad to see that the MBPA made a statement, but kind of felt like word salad. It is not the tenor that these statements used to be. Yeah, well, I'll put it to you like this. The line that NBA players can no longer remain silent. I'm just, this is just me giving us some game here. That statement doesn't make noise.
Starting point is 00:47:41 You understand what I'm saying? Like, it might not be silent, right? Like, you may have said something, but it doesn't make noise. Putting actual voice in actual names to things is what makes noise. Now, who knows? Things may change. in between the time that I have recorded this and the time you see this, right?
Starting point is 00:47:59 There may be some campaign and people doing all the stuff on the internet and putting out their pictures and statements individually as players or whatever it is. But I know 14 years ago, almost 14 years ago, exactly. Trayvon Martin was killed. I think that was on February 26, 2012. We saw what to me felt like one of the most moving and captivating things that we had seen from athletes in my lifetime is when the heat put out that picture with them with the hoodies up.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Like it was a, it was a bold state. in that moment of solidarity with the people, right? Capital T, capital P, the people. We saw a continuation really from years into the Mike Brown situation in Ferguson. And it really goes all the way through 2020 with George Floyd where there was a very visible face. I mean, obviously, Colin Kaepernick in between there. My bad. Almost missed that one.
Starting point is 00:48:50 The players, their faces and their voices were very clear. and resonant when these things were happening in the world. The first term of the Trump administration, you saw and heard a lot from players kind of pushing back about on what was going on there. Now, for what is worth, these times are different. I've gotten on here and talked about how it doesn't feel nearly as safe to say what it is that you believe or you feel.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Like when that Kimmel thing happened with Trump or whatever, it doesn't feel as easy as it used to be to talk about these things. but it is to me quite no worthy that the tenor and the sound of athletes is much different than it was before. But the truth is that is not something I blame them for. The tenor of the athlete is different because the tenor of the people is different. The tenor of the times is different. And I have long felt that many have in times like these, look to athletes, it felt as though athletes had a responsibility to speak so that they could be,
Starting point is 00:49:53 heard because people would listen to them in times where they would not listen to other people. But the truth is, the behavior of athletes in these times has actually typically been reactive and reflective of the largest society rather than at the vanguard of that society. And that's not to say that there are not people who are speaking up against what is going on now with ICE, but the noise doesn't feel the same. Um, with all that said, though, I guess I am a little surprised that it ain't like one or two people or somebody that's just super duper loud, um, about what this is. Like, it feels like there was years and years and work and effort to just change the tenor of conversation in sport that
Starting point is 00:50:46 discussed the larger world. Um, like when I worked at ESPN, I don't work at ESPN. I don't work at ESPN in various capacities, really for about 20 years. I never once had anybody encouraged me not to talk about something. Even the thing I had happened with that T-shirt that one time. They had some shit to say when I wasn't around, but nobody ever said anything to meet, really. You know, like, I never, like, this idea
Starting point is 00:51:19 that they was just go come and shut everybody down, that was something I never felt when I was there. And I generally felt like as long as I was saying, what I was saying was true and I could support it with some evidentiary basis, that I ultimately wound up being okay. After we got like into the Trump administration, Kaepernick took a knee in 2016, 2017 is when it kind of hit the fan because Trump called them boys, sons of bitches and everything went kind of haywire.
Starting point is 00:51:43 We didn't talk as much about the things that were happening in the world, but I also felt like the discussion in the larger new zeitgeist was not in that, was not there. Like, I felt like if the topics of the world move back into those places, then the discussion in and around sport would also move to around those places, in part because the athletes would talk about them,
Starting point is 00:52:08 and then we would wind up going there. And that hasn't happened. Like, the world's on fire. Right? I think we all generally agree with that. The world is on fire. Okay? It seems to be getting worse and not better.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Right. And we've done a full year of Trump's return. And it's come with a whole lot of stuff, right? Do you feel like you've heard the voice of the athlete in this? Because I do not. I just don't. And look, they got their reasons. I'm not as loud about a lot of these things as I used to be.
Starting point is 00:52:40 For me, it is in large part because I have gotten older and I felt like the means and mechanisms that I used to talk about things, largely social media stopped being affected. Like I gave up on the end. entirety of that experiment as a way to say serious things, right? I can do more or I'm inclined to do more now with this show and this point and this times. Like I'm, I'm rounding into a different kind of shape about these things because I now, it's coming up to one of the few times where I didn't feel for a long time like there was much that I needed to say that wasn't obvious. Right. It was all
Starting point is 00:53:13 so transparent. So like, why am I there? Young people don't. They typically operate in a different space. You know what I mean? They tend to be a little bit more gangster wow with what they do. And They just feel the need to be heard. And it don't feel like any of them really feel the need to be heard right now. Like, LeBron got in trouble. Not really trouble, but he did something incredibly stupid in tone deaf. And I've mentioned it kind of vaguely the other day on the show. But his people, him and Nike put out a shoe in honor of Martin Luther King,
Starting point is 00:53:44 that's kind of like this like motel green, like 60s motel green, like the Lorraine Motel, Green, which is to say that they thought the way to honor Martin Luther King was a shoe that was inspired by the hotel that he got shot at. They thought that some James air rays were the way to pay tribute to Martin Luther King, which is ridiculous, right? There's a zillion people that you complain for this. Fine. What I would stop and make note of is that if you want to honor Martin Luther King, by trying to find a way to sell us a color way, I'd kind of like to know what you think about this stuff, right? And the reason I would say that about him is because we've seen him do it
Starting point is 00:54:34 before. We've seen him be at the forefront of these things, right? And in 2020, remember what he was in the bubble with like the leader to society shirt and all of that, right? I'm not saying this in an accusatory fashion. I'm very curious as to why we hear less from him now. Like, I would love to know, and look, this isn't just about the NBA players, because it's unfair. Like, hey, man, these white folks is out here getting smoked in the streets, right? Like, this isn't a, this isn't necessarily, and I think it's somewhat telling that it's white people getting smoked in the streets and it's still the basketball players that are ones that are standing up and putting out the statement as much as that is standing up, right? I want to know from a whole lot
Starting point is 00:55:14 of these guys, right? White people typically get to slack and they don't have to answer for what's going on with the world and all of this stuff, right? So I don't want to reinforce the idea that this is a black responsibility. But people who I heard truly not that long ago be vocal and visible, I would love to know why they aren't right now. Are we simply as a society exhausted, right? Did COVID and George Floyd, like, really get the last out of us in terms of a sort of collective action when it comes to these things, right? But it's different. And I think that all of us could stand to ask ourselves why it's different, and not just
Starting point is 00:56:05 for them, but in some ways, why is it different from us? One point somebody made to me that I thought was good, my man, Jason, is just kind of, as social media has turned into something so ultimately useless and unproductive, And as the tenor of it got to be so toxic and so argumentative, I think it's probably more difficult to organize around social media. It's probably more difficult to build a community around the issue that you were talking about. It just kind of becomes a place to scream and for people to scream at each other. And if you have a generation that has been raised on social media,
Starting point is 00:56:46 and that's the means through which they communicate, I could see why they would be burnout from talk. about any of this because I know how burnout I have felt at different points. But things have changed in a way that I think is bad. And I think that maybe we should ask ourselves how to change it the other way. All right, Bo, let's get to some voicemails. Speaking of changing. Speaking of change. Way to go, wipe.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Way to go. Let's hear from a good friend of the show. I like to ask this question. Come on, y'all. The Big Ten is taking over the network. Michigan won a championship Ohio State won a championship Indiana won the championship
Starting point is 00:57:34 three in a row That's three repeat the Big Ten won the championship Come on recruiters Come on my booster We can't out pimped We're from Alabama We got the gold in our mouth And the green is for the money
Starting point is 00:57:48 And gold is for the honey There's no way we should have A small town A small town like Indiana All they got is cornfield We got deer We got cows. We got everything you want.
Starting point is 00:58:01 And we ain't winning a national championship. Come on, Texas. Step your game up. You got Jerry Jones. You got all the biggest pimple booster in there. You got 80-year-old booster. And we all ain't winning no championship. Something is wrong, man.
Starting point is 00:58:15 And we got to start spending our money, though. And we can let this happen. Everybody's going to go to the porter to Indiana, Ohio State. And we got to get back Alabama, Texas. We got to step our game up. Pimp is not good. and we let these small city take over our
Starting point is 00:58:31 network. Not the Big Ten is not a good network. Alabama. We got to get those booster back up. We got to get back. We got to go find these old grandfather with the money and start pimping these guys again. Texas. Them Loanhorn. You got to raise their hand, man. Y'all getting too soft
Starting point is 00:58:50 down there. Y'all got a commercial with a damn cow running down the street. Start recruiting these boys again. All right? This is West side Mike, they call me DJ Mike. Hit me, I'm telling you something. Alabama will win a national championship because I'm going to be back a boost of. We're going to stop pimping these boys again.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Have a good day. Okay, we're not going to pimp them. I'm going to throw that far out there. I will say this. The show does not endorse this. No, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, they was pimping them back in the day, though. So I guess, you know, when Alabama was winning, that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:59:24 We have not talked about Indiana winning the championship since. Indiana won the championship. It is insane that Indiana won a national championship at football. Like every, every football program, they should have been a team meeting the next day. Right. And I don't know who's called. And I don't know who's called on the meeting, but somebody needed to get cussed out in that moment. I told you, Wake Forest won the ACC in 2006. Everybody got fired in the next two years. No excuses. Nobody had any excuses left. They got a 64-year-old coach up there. And they went and won a national championship
Starting point is 01:00:02 on the other team home field. That happened. That happened. The SEC boy, all that SEC talk, it just, it's not, I can't believe the big, I just can't believe any of it. Because I still think the SEC is better than the Big Ten. I think the Big Ten has had the best team in the country
Starting point is 01:00:20 three years in a row. Right. And they won it wire to wire. Like, we're, like, did, didn't get hot, didn't get lucky, were the best team of the country from Labor Day till mid-June. Well, hold up. Don't forget this. They got smoked in the playoff by Notre Dame last year.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And so we're just like, okay, there's a ceiling on this. It was a cute story. And then they went to Oregon for the regular season game and won that game by like 10 points on the road. Right. Then came back and beat them again in the playoff. Like, they went and took a step. This wasn't a, like last year was kind of, oh, this is cute.
Starting point is 01:00:59 They was like, okay, now we're about to win. Beed Ohio State. Beat Ohio State. Neutral site. I mean, neutral-ish, but. Man, there are a lot of Ohio State fans in Indianapolis, too. Everywhere. They're everywhere.
Starting point is 01:01:12 They are unavoidable. All right, here's our next one. First off, Bo, the Knicks are not winning the East. Okay. The pisses are going to get rid of them in five. But to my question, is the NBA? Who is the Josh Allen of the NBA? Meaning, no matter how many times they choke, fall apart, the media always makes an excuse.
Starting point is 01:01:41 My answer is going to always be the most overrated point guard in the NBA, which is Chris Paul. Because all he has done is get hurt and lose to Steph Curry. So I just want to know from you who is the Josh Allen of the NBA. It could be currently or of all time. Love to show, man. Thank you. I mean, I got to be honest, I don't really feel like people make that many excuses for Chris Paul.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Like, I see a great deal of celebrating when things don't go well for Chris Paul. I think the Josh Allen of the NBA has to be a current player. I had a historical one. Okay, so I have a current one that bears a lot of Josh Allen's similarities as it relates to how people respond to when he doesn't do what he's supposed to do or the way they react to some of his shortcomings. And I bet you can guess who it is. I'm really blanking on a curl. All right. So I'll give you another hint. You know, there's some reasons in part why people root so hard for Josh Allen, vis-a-vis some of his peers. Who has borne some of that characteristic in the NBA? I say Luke Dodgish. There we go. Luca, hey man,
Starting point is 01:02:55 I saw somebody put on the internet about Luca not playing defense that you know Luca don't play defense. So you got to put people around him that dude. And that AJ asking Luca to play defense is just too much.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I was going pre-211 Dirk. Ooh, see, I think, I don't know, maybe I was just in different rooms. When Dirk, when they lost that series in 07, and then in 08, he let David West tap him on the jaw.
Starting point is 01:03:20 We was over here. Killing Dirk. Killing. I guess the soft European thing didn't make him one of us. Yeah, yeah, he was getting killed. That was the thing. Dirk changed the whole game for all the Europeans by winning that one, right? Powell Gassal, that was cool, but we still thought you was soft.
Starting point is 01:03:38 You know what I'm saying? Dirk came out there and did that that year. Nobody's one ring changed everything, quite like Dirk's one ring, changed everything. All right, here's our last one. This is Matt in OC, and I was listening to the White Reggie calls. And that reminded me I spent some time in Northeast Alabama. It's the only place I ever ran into this situation. What about White Jailants?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Because there were a mess of them in North Alabama. Never heard of it before. Never heard of it since. But yeah, White Jalen. Love the show. Listen soon. Bye. Now, the question you need to ask yourself,
Starting point is 01:04:23 brother is are you sure they're white like for example you have seen john kitten the son i've not seen i've not seen i've not seen okay now i i hope again to call back to our conversation i hope he has a j name not a k name and uh he's a jaden or a jalen one of the two i can't remember which but first of all if you google him the new stories are going to be tricky. Oh, yeah. Right. But just look at a picture of him. Okay. I thought that he was white Jalen or what, it's Jalen, right? Yes. Jalen. I thought he was white Jalen and then I saw a picture of his mom. Huh, uh, up, up, plot twist. No, he was not white Jalen. He was just quite like Jailen. What I think may be happening in these cases with these white Jailens in North Alabama,
Starting point is 01:05:17 I would assume that there is a Y in there, because one of white mama is involved. the Jalen takes all some permutations that normally involved there being a Y, especially in like the last syllable, like J-A-L-Y-N. You know what I'm saying? J-J-A-Y-L-N, J-A-L-Y-N, or the J-A-D-Y-N, I don't know why. The white woman who may have like a slainty haircut and some big old bangles, you know what I'm saying? That's what she tend to wind up doing that with the name. So as it relates to white Jalen, we don't know how white, the white J-Laylor
Starting point is 01:05:51 actually is. And number two, once again, shout out to Jalen Rose's mama. She cooked with that one. She really did change the world with the name she gave her son. Well, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this four times a week. Ryan Brumley handed everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Hit the voicemail line 323-9, 6776767. Remember, follow the right time. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. I'll talk you guys in a couple of days. Take it easy.

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