The Right Time with Bomani Jones - DJ Wally Sparks on Prince’s Best Era, Best Songs and Wildest Deep Cuts | 04.16

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

In the second part of this 2-part series, Bomani Jones is joined by DJ Wally Sparks for a deep dive into Prince’s catalog, from the early records to the Warner years that made him a legend. They get into Purple Rain vs. Sign o’ the Times, why When Doves Cry feels untouchable, why Little Red Corvette has a real case as Prince’s best song, and which deep cuts and B-sides still hit the hardest. Finally, they have a full-on music nerd conversation about Prince’s genius period, the records that aged best, and the songs that prove nobody else was operating on his level. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. I feel like this is kind of like Time Machine Thursday in this case. And Tuesday we have my brother on and we were talking about Prince. And today I got my man, DJ, W. And we're going to talk about Prince, but it's a little bit of a different discussion this time. Because last time I really wanted to lock in on, like obviously, I had my brother. So it was like a, it's based in relationship as much as anything else, right? His relationship with the music, my relationship with him, the kind of hereditary notion of how it gets passed out, how it gets from my dad to my brother, all of those things.

Me and Wally, a little bit more music nerdy in this. And so the nerdiness of the music is sort of the direction that we're going with. So I'm actually curious because you and I are not exactly the same age, but be close enough to the same age. Like your entryway into getting into Prince because the truth is, we are old enough to get in there, but we're also a little younger than the prime Prince audience. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Like the baby, the Baby Gen X's is kind of where we're at. Yes. But shit. How I got into Prince, man, probably probably through the medium of music video. You know what I mean? I'm pretty sure I saw him. I saw him doing some kind of cool dance move, probably hitting a split or something with a guitar on his man.

I was like, that looked cool as shit, man. I think I'm into this. You know what I'm? And, you know, moreover, the music was jamming. You know what I mean? That's always the baseline with me, man, do it.

Do a jam or do it not jammed. And it was jamming. So that was kind of, that was kind of my entry point into, into Prince. So I guess this would have, just would have had to be maybe right before

Purple Rain before he like exploded. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, and then, but even then, like, when he became ubiquitous in round 1984, shit, I was a, was I about seven years old then?

And, and, you know, all that shit looked interesting to me as, as a, as a young kid. I'm like, man, what is going on here, man? All these colors flying around, and I can't tell if it's a man or a woman. Is it a girl with a mustache?

What's happening here? You know what I mean? But whatever it is is interesting, you know? And the music, the music was the real thing that kept me most interested into what was going on with Prince at that point in time of my life. Yeah, like the video point, I think is an interesting one because as we think about like video as an evolving art form. And obviously nobody leaned in at that stage.

Right, right, right. Like nobody leaned in on video quite like Michael Jackson, obviously, which is, I think, a byproduct of what happens when your first record sells 9 million copies and it's the biggest selling black record of all time. You get some money to do some videos on the next one that sells of 875 million copies. I have a million, you know, thriller ultimately did.

Prince, you got like the American band stand. I want to be your love eclipse that you think of. And then you get to the 1999 videos, right? That look like they were shot on the same day, right? Look like they were shot on the same set. And it's really just him and that incarnation of the band playing the music. But it is your first glimpse into the fact like something different going on with these cats, right? It's him, it's Des, is Lisa Coleman, like alternating singing on 1999.

And you're looking at them, right? Or even, I think that's a video where you got Wendy and Lisa on each other on the keyboard, right, while they doing it. And you're like, like, the thing I would have loved to have been around for in real time to fully conceptualize is to be like, yo, is this what they doing in Minneapolis? Like, what the hell going on up there, man? I thought it was just cold. I had no context about Minneapolis back then. Like, I didn't know where they were from or what they were doing. I just, I was like, this is weird.

And I'm not sure if I like it or if I don't like it. but I do like this music. You know what I mean? Like I, it was, you know, I thought Des was cool. I thought he was a cool looking dude because he had the, you know, I was, I was kind of heavy into like kung fu movies and shit and he had that, that, uh, that Japan bandana on his head. I'm like, oh, well, he looks cool and he plays guitar, guitars all.

No, everybody plays guitar that's cool. No matter, whether you're good at it or not, you know what I'm saying? If you got a guitar in your hand, you just look cool. But, yeah, man, like, I would, I would be seeing all that stuff. I try, man, I try and emulate it. I used to get in trouble with my mama because I was really big in the hair bands back then too. So like, because I was watching music video.

So poison and rat and, you know, all those like gland metal bands, I was way into that. And Prince was like the black version of that to me. You know, and I used to get in trouble with my grandmama when I'd be over house while my mom was at work. I used to take like a fingernail clippers, right? and take like instead of like the part you clip your nails with but the other end and like clip that shit to my ear

and like use them like earraise and shit and like getting getting to my mom's eye lining and shit and put it on my face and acting like I'm playing the guitar because I want to be like Prince. You know what I'm saying? And my grandma was like she was not having it at all. She was like she's like you need to get your life together, son. We need to take you to church.

Yo, God's a prince seems like the ultimate bridge too far dude that it's ever been. Like, okay, y'all doing all this other stuff. Okay, that's fine. This right. Hey, hey, hey. Yeah, man. You're doing a little too much, man.

Got too much dip on your chip, dog. No, no. But, like, musically, it's interesting for me because I talked a little bit about this with my brother. But, like, the first album is like, oh, okay, you are 19 years old or 18 years old trying to get this going. Nice try. See the vision, right? See where you try to go.

The second one, he's always described as his attempt to make songs. make songs that sounded like what he was hearing on the radio, right? Like, I understand what the assignment is. I will come in and I will replicate the assignment. Something also very interesting. I'm curious if you knew this. I ran one of these books where the label wanted Verdeen White to produce his first record, not even Maurice.

I think it was Verdeen, the 4-U album or the second one. Either 4-you or the self-title, but somewhere in there, the label wanted them and Prince rejected it because he felt the Earthwinded fire was too much of a disco act for his personal taste. Which I don't wholly disagree with, right? Like, I have a...

Yeah. People get mad when I start talking about Earthwind and Fire. No, no, we've had... We've done this. We've done this. We've done this. We've done this. You know what I love him.

But I love him, I love him. But I fully understand why Prince is like, hey, this isn't... This isn't my sound. Like, you know what it is with Earth Wind and Fire? And it's funny because me and my man, Dwan, talk about this. I'm talking about music a lot.

And he's a big Earth, and fire guy because he is a trained musician, trained musicians love Earthwind and Fire. But DeWan is also a minor chord guy, right? Like, he does not like his music to sound very happy. And to me, Earthwinded fire always sound a little too bright and too happy. They made pretty music. Yeah, and Prince has never really made pretty music.

It wasn't until like his late 30s that you started getting into like the Betcha goodbye godly wild phase and stuff like that where it sounds pretty. But that self-titled album, it's got Bambi, right? It gets into some of the places that we know Prince to get to. But it is kind of just, yeah, okay, again, I see where you're going. Back when you had time to take a couple albums to figure out what it was that you were doing. But it had, I want to be a lover. It had, I feel for you, and I actually prefer his version over the Shocker Conversion.

That Shocker Conversion is just two 1980s for my personal taste. It's got still waiting on it. that's my jam. We talked about having Band Be on it. You know, that's that album, I was got,

got the most princiest prince song on it, in my opinion, why you treat me so bad. That's like the, that's like the most Prince,

print song of ever, of all time, in my opinion, you know? I love that record, bro. I play that. I actually play that record

out sometimes, you know, just when, like, if I'm, if I'm DJN and I'm in a spot where I know

that might be like a music, like a real music head in there, and that's a song that I can play the kind of pop the crowd because I know somebody, especially as they a prince person and if I play why you treat me so bad every time, anytime I do that

they'll be like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, yes. Here we go, here we go. You know what time it is. That record has some joints though. It does have some joints. And that's a guitar showoff song

for him too, which again, in that era he did not do that many of. He basically put the guitar down after this for like four years. Not that he didn't play it, but it was never the, all right, let me show you what I can do quite like this. Like, I love still waiting on this because I'm a big fan of print show off on piano songs. And that wasn't a show off like solo show off, but he can play, he plays piano lines that you feel and can get into that, you know, but say, to find someone to call my own because I'm sick and tired of being alone.

Like he hit that, he can hit that lane so good where you think about him always like smash. and Adams are coming up with something new, but when he wanted to do something that felt familiar, I got you, I got you there too. Yep. I feel like, I feel like he always tried to show,

definitely when he was showing off on pianos when he was like, I, I, I'm doing, I'm kind of, I kind of feel like he did that for him. Like,

I'm doing something for me. You know, like further on down the road, I'm sure we'll get this later, but like, like, a B-side, like,

how come you don't call me anymore? You know what I'm saying? Yes. where it's nothing that the piano the piano playing in that song oh my god no that's when you realize how illy was right because we're going to get to that because i was stop first before we get there to like i feel like dirty mind and controversy you kind of have to talk about together in part because they came out six months apart and they came out six months apart in part because prince showed up with the demo and was like nope that's the album yeah it's good enough right here

it's walt up to the label like the bruce springsteen to bruce springsteen to brown comparison that I make all the time is interesting because the Nebraska demo is just him with an acoustic guitar and a harmonica, right? And so they sound like demos. They sound very clearly like something that the plan was to do more with it. Prince showed it with a demo that sounded like an album talking crazy, bro. Talking crazy on just about every song. Like crazy. You know what I'm saying? Andy Christian and what's the song, what's the title,

what's the guy got to do named Ronnie in it. Oh, John, Roddy talked to Russia. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Roddy is Ronald Reagan. I know. That's what I'm saying. You're talking trash about everything.

You know. He's talking trash about everything. But even then, let's think about this. When you were mine with an illusion, the, I always think this as figurative talking about, you know, the girl was cheating all you, but, you know, I didn't care. Never was the kind to make a fuss when he was there, sleeping in between the two.

of us. I didn't, it wasn't until I got older that I was like, oh, you meant that like, actually. Like literally. Yo, that's insane, dog. What are you, what are you talking about? You got a, my sister never made love to anyone else but me. She's the reason for my sexuality. Whoa, hey, hey, she never wore any underwear said it always gets in a hair and has a funny way of stopping the juice. What? What? Incest is everything. It's what?

No. Man, he was completely out of pocket. Yo, yo, and it's new way, like I say, and that comes after the song about this girl was going to get married, but instead I gave us some head and everything was, and she stayed with what? You know, you know, that's how you know, that's how you know the music had to be astronomically good for, for anyone just to be. be able to look past that and be like, you know what? That was kind of crazy what you just said. But man, this song is phenomenal. Yo, but to me, it's not even that people look past it.

People kind of leaned in. They just like, oh, okay, that's what we're doing. On this record that sounds new way, to me, though, that's the bass album. Like, if you listen to it, he has a very particular style of bass play because he has guitar player, piano player hands. Like it's not going to sound like them Larry Graham, Bootsie Collins. Like you see a picture of Bootsie Collins hands and you're like, oh, that's why that bass sounds like that.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Like, it looked like Bootsie Collins, but you could like take the top of an oil drum if he just unscrew it, right? Prince didn't have like that. So Prince has got these like slinky style bass lines on there. And it's another one where he could create these pictures. of like I'll do it all night.

There's like someone over there said he wants to get to know you. I don't care because I really want to hold you and I'm so scared because he might do something to you that you like. Like that is the ultimate portrait of like insecurity. I want to holler at you, but I ain't got it in me, but I'm afraid that dude got it. What am I supposed to do? And then imagine this five foot five perm-headed motherfucker,

20 years old sitting over there looking weird. Yep. Worried about all these things. do you think this point in time is when he kind of started to develop the the character of prince or like all the other different types of characters that he would play throughout the music you know the characters he played within the music you know yeah you think this is around his time is when that started i mean it's one thing that he's on the cover of the self-titled album with no shirt all the next one he's on the cover wearing a g-string knee highs and he's

heels. Yeah. I think there is when he just fully decided we're going to go wild with it. Yeah. We're going to go wild with it. And then come with controversy. Controversy has a song called Jack You Off and it's actually dialed back for where the previous, although controversy also gives us our first weird like Prince Coda, which is a doomy baby when he starts getting it. I'm so cold. What are you doing? What are you talking about it? Could you turn that shit up, please? man, you talk about a record. That record is like a quiet storm staple. Yes.

And it, and for what's going on in that record, for that, we've had discussions on here before where we talked about how radio, especially black radio during this time period, was like very, very conservative, especially in regards to rap music where they wouldn't play it. that song, Do Me Baby, was all over Black Radio all the time. You know, and it wasn't like they just, I mean, it was a, it was a Quietstone record, so it got to play it in the 10 o'clock hour, but it was getting played in the middle of the day, too.

You know what I mean? And for something, literally he's saying, do me, baby, like you've never done before. Yes. In the middle of the day. Yes. So that was the thing, too. We talk about, don't know if there's a girl with a mustache. one thing he was making it clear, regardless of what you thought he was, what he was about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He definitely made it clear. You know what I'm saying? Like, he might be talking about how somebody else is going both ways. He wouldn't really talk about him going both ways. This don't apply to me. Bambi, can't you understand? Bambi is better with a man.

And so, like, after he went witness and there were songs that he wasn't playing anymore, he played Bambi on Saturday Night Live in the 21st century. And I'm like, yeah, of course he would. That's the most conservative song in the catalog. Right? Like, like, he is speaking. He's like, sis is the way to go. That is what we do.

Now, with Do Me Babe, I think Do Me Babe is another one. That's another base. That is a Prince Base classic. But the Prince Base Classic is all controversy. And that is Let's Work. And what is interesting to me about that too is, I feel like the power of marketing and the power of singles is very important in terms of how

things are remembered. And so what I mean when I say that, I watched a concert, Guns and Roses, I think it's live at the Ritz in New York City, and it was on the tour they did for appetite for destruction. And I remember when they played Sweet Child of Mine, the audience was kind of like, oh, it's cool, but it didn't really jump off, which I found to be strange. And then I looked up the date of the concert, and then I looked up the dates on the album, and Sweet Child of Mine had not yet been released as a single. Oh, there you go. So it had not, you see what I'm saying? Like it hadn't turned into that thing at that point. Now that is for a lot of people like the defining Guns and Rose is single, but it happens because it comes out as a single. Questlove makes a point about

Prince that there is not a Prince song that as a DJ that you throw on and it just sets the party completely off like some have done forever, right? But let's work sounds like the song that should have been the song or would have been the song because that is that is the prince baseline of all is is let's work i got um i got homies a few homies that actually played base for a living and uh you know when we get to talking about prince they they always almost all of them are you know in a consensus say that that baseline is one of the most difficult baselines ever to play and it's because And they've told me because it's the way that the bass is moving, it's, uh, it's, uh, like a non-natural movement of hands.

So, because you have to, you have to go up and down. You got to go up and down the neck of the base in a way that's, that's not normal to, to accomplish it. Right. But, but the way, and I guess the way that thing like moves to, do, do, do, do, boom, you know, how it moves up and down, bro. I can see why that would be

the record that one would think that would be the one that would set the party off. And it does to a degree, but, you know, depending on the room you win. It did not become ubiquitous. No, it did not. Right, like it did become the one.

Go ahead, go ahead, my bad. The one record that was close like that was from the self-titre album. I want to be a lover. Yeah. you know. But even that, that's the same. It's the same. It only, it works kind of, depending on where you at. You know what I mean? Yeah. Let's work. Also got the, I think this is the first person to say this, I want to love you to you soft and wet. Hard-dicking bubble gum is

all you get. I don't know. Maybe somebody said it before, but that feels to me like the first documented use. Yeah, timeline-wise, it sounds like that would be the first time. You know what I said? that sounds like but yo what's so wild this controversy was like a little bit of a disappointment compared to dirty mind

and then 1999 comes after it and Little Red Corvette to me is the best prince song I'm not saying the best prince record I saw him in concert I want to say five times I saw him play Little Red Corpette

five different ways it jams every single way and that is because there is no genre of singing where men sing harder or with more more emotion than when a man is declaring his love for a trollop.

Think about every love song you've ever heard where a man is talking about a woman who be out there in them streets. Don't nobody sing harder about love than men. You realize how much you got to love a woman to tell the world. She out here with all these other dudes. But oh, well, you can come stay here. Yep. Yeah, man.

Symphony ain't easy, baby. You know what I'm saying? And every, by the way, in every one of those songs makes the very clear implication. That thing, that ain't be snapping, dog. Like, like, I don't think you so much understand what it is that that thing provides me when she be over here.

And that's his version. It's worth, I mean, the juice is worth to squeeze, baby. You know what I'm saying? I need that in my life. Yeah, I don't care how I get it. Oh, I need that and I need it from her. You know what I mean? He looked at that like, yo, I don't even think I can hang, dog.

Baby, I ain't got enough gas. That's a beautifully written song, too. So good. You know what I mean? It's so, so good. Ed, you heard like the eight-minute version? No, no, I haven't heard of any of the burger. So there's a six-minute version of 1999 that just about everybody's heard. 1999, of course, is a great record.

But Little Red Corvette, there's an eight-minute version of that one And it's funny because on the single version, Prince doesn't play the solo. Des Dickinson plays the solo. And by the way, when you hear the solo, you realize it's the Des Dickinson solo because it ain't a Prince solo. But you listen to the longer versions.

Dude, he is cutting up on guitar so bad all the way through. Again, your friendly reminder that I'm better at this than your favorite is. Man, I just can't imagine being able to have the ability to flex like that at any point in time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I'm, like, I'm literally making all this music because I'm making the music I want to hear.

But every nine again, I must, I must decree that I am the coldest motherfucker walking. You know what I'm saying? Yes. And I'm not, and I'm not going to say it. I'm just going to do something and you are going to acknowledge it. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Well, and also, here's where this gets fun.

And you've mentioned this before a little bit. Do you know what the B-side is to 1999, the single? Is it 17 days? No, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's it ain't 17 days, isn't it? It is how come you don't call me anymore. There we go. Five not mistaken. Yes, it's how come you don't call me anymore.

Let's think about this for a second, guys. I have so much heat that I don't really have a place for how come you don't call me anymore. So I'm just going to throw it on here. this excellent super super soultry piano ballad. Yes. Yes. I'm going to throw the B side of this, this super duper guitar driven single.

Just complete, just a complete old school, like just longing ballad is just what lousadom. Why don't you call me sometime? Where you hear him, you hear the foot tap to keep the beat. like it sounds like he is all it sounds exactly like what the song implies it is that he is just sitting there all alone unsure of what to do just just there right this how i get it out this i decide to get my emotions and my feelings out this is it how i do it right here right so that's the

b side on that one um we by the way that album i don't want to skip it like wow there's so much we could do in like how long this could go. But that was a revolutionary sort of album, especially with the use of the drum machine. Nobody had used that drum machine. That L1 Roger Land drum machine, nobody had used it at that point like he had, right? And where he also leans in super heavy on the keys, where his thing about the keys was he didn't play horns. So the keys were horns. Like he made, it was, it's a like weird old futuristic, jane, Brown sort of record, and it's nasty. It is wall-to-wall nasty.

Like, we have a brother to talk about, let's pretend we're married. Like, dude, what are you talking about? You can't do this. Do you think this point in time, like, I know we, I know we're about to, we're about to creep up on Purple Rain here in the second. But do you think, you know, people often talk about Stevie Wonder's genius period, right?

Do you think this is Prince's Genius period right here? This point in the 80s? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to me, I think his junior period runs eight years. So from when to win? From Dirty Mind through the Black album. Okay. Love Sexy. I mean, it may have been genius, but it wasn't.

Love Sexy has jams. Like, it has songs that I really like. But I wouldn't, all right, let's put a pin in this. We're going to come back and talk about Purple Rain, because I have a frustration with Prince Stans as a relation to Purple Rain. that we will talk about next. All right, we are back with DJ Wally Sparks talking about Prince. We are now here for Purple Rain,

and there's a huge segment. You and I talked about this a little bit before the show started, where I'm like, I am clearly not a Prince Stan because I meet Prince Stans, and I see where Prince Stans talk about on the Internet, and I am not them, right? Like I realize this. Like, this discussion we have is going to focus on the Warner years

because we could talk about the after Warner years, but that's not why we're here. right? No. The reason this is all here is because of the Warner Brother years, number one. Number two, I am, I find that often, the more you get into something, the more you get into music, we try to often get a little bit too cute when we talk about what's best or in some cases, what's our favorite, because you don't want to sound like everybody else, right? An example of this to me is like with you two, where people would say that Octung Babe was the best YouTube record and no, it's the Joshua Tree. Like, like, I guess. get why you don't want to say the thing that everybody said forever, but then you go back and you're like, okay, we're tripping here. I love side of the times and we'll get there, but it's a reason that Purple Rain sold a gazillion albums. Purple Rain is a mind-blowing act of creativity

that I am amazed how many people will try to say that if Purple Rain is your jam, that somehow it is an indicator of a lack of nuance in your musical taste, the dude put together a gospel funk hard rock album, a significant portion of which was recorded live, including Purple Rain itself. Incredible songwriting, his signature song,

and to me, the most incredible single anybody ever put out, which is when Doves cry, literally a song that no one has ever made a song that sounded like it before or after. I don't even think anybody's been able to try. Yeah, man. I've heard guitar players from many walks of life, you know, from every type of genre you

could think of. And this is going into, you know, Prince as a guitarist, right? And they speak of the intro solo for When Do's Cry, like, it's the Holy Grail. Because they're like, how is this possible? you know what I mean that no one can figure out how to do it and I believe I believe Prince probably did that on mistake

I mean by mistake rather you know what I've told you I don't think he could do it again yeah my evidence is this in the times that I saw him live he always ran when Doves Cry off a dad like he always ran the solo off of a tape

if you watch the tours in the 1980s and when Doves Cry came up that is not a guitar, a Prince guitar number in concert. It's a Prince song and dance number, right? Like he's doing the split and everything else for it. Wendy is doing all the guitar stuff during those times. And even, I think what's his name, Levi Searcy, next cat. Like those are the ones that are doing the guitar in the next run.

I don't think he ever could do. I think he caught lightning in a bottle that one time. Billy Gibbons tells that story about after the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducted ceremony, I think it was in 04 when Prince did the When My Guitar, Why My Guitar Genly Weep solo And that Gibbons says, Somebody's like, hey, somebody wants to see you over there

And it's Prince in the back And Billy Gibbons, who's the guitar player from ZZ Top, who is a Stone Cold Beast in his own right. And he asked Prince about that solo, I mean, about that intro. And he's like, yeah, I don't even know what I did on that one. I don't think he could do it again. He just caught it one time.

And just happened to catch it on tape. And it happened to be, on one of his greatest songs of all time. Yes. You know, pure lightning in the bottom moment. To me, it's the best record he made, right? Like, I think as a song, Little Red Corvette has a versatility and all this other stuff. But as a production, as something that somebody put together in a studio, that's the one.

It is lyrically cold, too. That's such a crazy genre-bending song. Because it's everything and nothing. and all at once. Yes. How about this? He does that solo, that intro solo

and then doesn't pick the guitar back up again until the end. Until he gets back to that solo at the end, but otherwise, it's not there. It's just basically the drum scene and synths up until that part. And you know,

you know another thing that's underrated about that song that people don't often talk about is the vocal performance. Yes. Bro, the, you know, the script. at the end. And he ain't,

he ain't, he ain't screaming for the sake of screaming. He's screaming. He's screaming because it suits the song. Yes. You know what I mean? It's not, it's not just somebody just like randomly.

You know what I'm saying? It's not just there. It's not just there because he felt like screaming. It's there because it's in service of the song. Yeah, it's not like the, the do me baby screaming, which you gotta feels like,

okay, we're just, we're just, wilding. You're just wilding. You're right. Like, this was, this, this was different, but you're right. Also, that dig, if you will, a picture. Oh, okay, you have, you have my attention.

Yep. Right. Nails it. And look, that's just, that's just one of the songs. The beautiful ones. That scene in the movie with the beautiful ones, being my whole boy once, we were like, yo, I don't have Perperino CD. This is like 99.

He didn't have one. I'm like, cool, we're going to drive down to the best buy. South Lake Mall, and we're going to go pick them up. And so we stopped and we eating at Wendy's and we just kind of finishing up our food and we were talking about the movie and we talk about in the movie where he gets on stage and he does the, do you won't him? Does the pointin, do you want me? And then we looked at each other and then we just threw our stuff away and we jumped up

and got in the car and went to get to stuff because he was just like, okay, we can't talk about this and not have this playing in the car shortly. like perfect ballot, perfect ballot, then behind it, and look, I'll fight to the death about this one. Anybody wondering, I will fight to the death about this. Y'all have been doing Computer Blue a disservice for 42 years. It's a great song. It's probably my least favorite song on that album. I know.

That's because you would take me with you, guy. Yes, sir. Because I play drums. That's why. I know, I know. You have explained that to me. To me, it is no question to take me with you is, look, something had to finish in last, right?

Like, it's not, it's whack, right? It is a, very clearly they told him, we need a song to put on this part of the movie. Can you, like, just give us the song? It's cool. Computer Blue, also, the 12-minute computer blue. Yeah, that's some crazy guitar work, too. Woo!

You know what I'm saying? I think the movie set Computer Blue up for a bad one because that's, it's interesting, because people don't feel that way about Nikki, But Computer Blue set up the idea that this was a whack, What Are You Doing Song? But everybody loves Nicky because he's talking that nasty shit. And so then they just like jump on it.

But to me, Computer Blue again is a princess flexing on the guitar as he decided to spend the majority of this record doing. Again, that's one of them instances was like, yeah, you know, I've been quiet for a few years, but it's time for me once again to let everybody know I'm the colds motherfucker walking. You know what I'm saying? Yes.

I mean, look, we got this. You get Nikki. When Dobs Cry comes after that, I would die for you, which again is another one of these weird old gospel songs. Yep. That's throwing in. Like, when you really pay attention to those lyrics,

that's a song about Jesus. About Jesus. Like, and not even about Jesus, like in the way that there are all these songs where you can substitute baby and substitute Jesus and the whole song flips, right? No, this is just about Jesus. Mm-hmm.

Kilt it. Kilt it. Then I don't know where you are on. Maybe I'm a star. But maybe I'm a star. It used to be the intro song for one of my radio shows because I got tired of them people acting like I ain't had no business being there. So it was might not know it now.

Baby, yes, I are. Yeah. That's a good. I always like that song, man. I enjoy the, because, you know, it's a, it's a real good,

you know, ending crescendo of the movie. You know, it makes the movie feel good. So I've always, I've always enjoyed that song. But the movie made me like that song more, whereas the movie might have made Computer Blue,

you know, go one way for other people, but it did a positive thing with pay me. I'm going to start with me because I just like the... And I thought that was a perfect way to end that movie. Yo, it's such a church song, too. Mm-hmm. With that organ, do in the do-dun-dun-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dun-dun-pun-pum-bun-bun-pum-bun-pum. It is such a church song.

And then end the purple. Say it again? It's shout music. It is. It is. And have you heard the story? And there's a zillion stories that bounce. You never know which one it is.

But the thing about Purple Rain was somehow Prince wound up at a Bob Seeger concert. And was like, I need one of these songs that make everybody sing along. And they're like, yo, man, sometimes you just got to take it down to the essence form. Right. They need the power ballot. And that's like kind of the genesis of Purple Rain, which started as a country record. And then when Wendy Melvoy got her hands on the intro, the voicing of the voiceing of change and it didn't go, you know, it didn't wind up in that place. It is, it's tricky because I feel

like there are lots of songs that are better and lots of things that are more creative maybe and everything else, but there is nothing that hits like a super dope live version of Purple Rang. Like nothing hits quite like it does. The one on the Syracuse concert, which, forget about the rock and roll Hall of Fame performance. That's the best solo in the catalog, live solo, if you go find it. But it's just like. like, hey, man, I'm going to make everybody in here cry. It could be done. Watch this.

Dar, I remember when you, you, you made me watch that. You were like, you were like, bro, you need to see this, this, this, this specific show. You know what I'm there? And I was like, man, this is, this is, this is, this is, might be the most amazing thing I've ever seen. You know what I mean? He was on. Let's not, let's not forget about the Super Bowl performance, too. You know what I mean?

Right. Right. And this is a whole other, like, that was. that was him at the peak of his powers. Like, me and my brother talked about this because we sat up here and we watched something off. I think it was the new tour right around when Love Sexy came out.

And we're like, the difference between those late 80s concerts in 85 is even if you think the music was better a da-da-da-da, his light never shown brighter than it did in 1985, right? Like, it is a recognition. I am the illest and everybody else knows that I'm the illest too. Like right now, it's not.

never going to be like this again. I got a band with an energy that you're never going to be able to replicate again. Everybody's having a great time for the money and the fame and everything, get out of control. Like, he is there. And like, everything that happens after is still dope, right? But that is a, I wish I was there for a moment to understand what the apex of something truly was. Like, it's like when I compared to like Jordan in 92 or like LeBron in 2012, where you watch a LeBron and you're just like, hey, man, it ain't never going to be, like, nothing's going to be like this again. Ever. And he was there.

And while he's there, he's like, oh, by the way, I'm going to put out another album because I've gotten bored with this shit already. Already. Yeah. I'm moving on. Right. And so, but what it winds up being after that, and I'm curious how you, if you see something similar to me, after that it feels like he put out a series

of albums that were certainly excellent but because he was moving faster than people could digest the ability to fully appreciate it wasn't necessarily there like I went back and got really into around the world in a day in the last

six months or so. That record is incredible. It is just so completely different than Purple Rain. And by the time they're done with videos for that, he's already moved on to Christopher Tracy. Yep. Already on parade.

Yeah, but right then, he was in his Beatles bag on that one. He tries to claim and that wasn't what he was doing. But to me, what was very clear is that not that was in his Beatles bag, he had a desire that I find a little unseemly, but he wanted to be white folks to give him his credit, right? Like, he felt like he deserved to be viewed. This is very much an ego play with the visionaries on a certain level. and then as often he decides to show people he could do whatever their favorites did better.

It felt very, very much like he was in a Beatles bag on that one, as much a demonstration of a point as anything else. But I ain't mad because it was going. Do you think, do you think parade and under the Sherry Moon subsequently, like, would you consider them predecessors to something like 808s and heartbreak by Kanye? because when I heard you said, like, I heard you say, like, this was the time

when Prince wanted one of the white people to take him seriously as a visionary because he saw himself as a visionary. I think Kanye, I think Kanye was doing the same sort of thing with 808's heartbreak. You know what I mean? I feel like with 808s,

Kanye was so depressed and put out an incredible, we recorded this in two weeks, like, depressed record. Which I love. Yeah, which I love when it came out. I think, so I think with Around the World and the Day, he was very particular, although Around the World of the Day has America on it,

and America is funky as anything that he put out. It's got Raspberry Beret, which every concert I went to, man, people love that shit. That's a great song, bro. That's another expertly written record. It is. It is. I merely like it a lot. I'm big on Pop Life.

That's on Around in the World in a day, too. Yeah, I love Pop Life. Around the World Today, I mean, so the title track, Paisley Park, condition of the heart, raspberry beret and tambourine is side 8. Right? On the back sides,

you got what, America, pop life, the latter, and temptation. And I think there's one more that I'm missing on the second half.

But America, they put out a 25-minute version of America with the Around the World Today release, and man, they are jamming on there. Like,

that's as hard funk record as he did. Parade has taken on this new life because you remember that time that Lupe Fiasco said it was written was his favorite Nyes record and then all y'all then decided to pretend like it was written is better than it ever was in the first place because somebody said it was good. I was on that before Lupe. Yeah, good for you.

And you felt like you was kind of lonely back then, though, didn't you? Yeah, I did. That's what I'm saying. I've never been on the, it was better than El Maddoch. I just said it was much better than people remember it being. You know what I mean? And I like that. I personally enjoyed listening to that album more than I enjoyed listening to I'm

listening to Illmatic at that point in my life. You know what I mean? I can see the point, right? My point in bringing that up, aside from needling you about it was written. But my thing was is that I think the way records are perceived can be changed when someone that people respect offers a positive opinion of it. For example, I find that white listeners are really into black artists that their white favorite said that they loved.

Like the Beatles talking about Chuck Berry helped bring Chuck Barry back because the Beatles talked about it in that way, right? Yeah. That clip of Nelson George and DeAngelo talking and DeAngelo saying the parade is the best fuck album ever, which is clearly DeAngelo trying to get an answer off the top of his head

and he throws it out there. I've seen Jill Scott say to say anything. Parade got some jams but get your fuck out of here. Like, people are not convincing me of this one. I love the like extended another a love a hole in your head, a love, do you lie. New position, like, it's a, it's an interestingly weird record

because he's going on this kind of French lounge theme or whatever. It's got kiss on it, which is one of those that I don't love as much as everybody else, but it's kind of a defining single. I do not like sometimes the snows in April. I flat out don't like it. Okay. I mean, I was just, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just sad and boring.

You know what it did you got on it, though? I got it. It does have mouth. It does have mouth, mouth, goes. Gross. Mous jamming like a fool, man. I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah.

Like, I think everything he did, even if you didn't love the record, everything he did was go have some jams on it. That would, of course, has the issue of, as my brother said, the only two movies worst their per parade are under the cherry mood and graffiti bridge.

They're the only two records ever made that are worse than those. Oh, girls and boys. I forgot about that one. Man, so much, so much heat, bro. By the way, purple rain around the world and a day, these all come out within like two years. Yeah, I mean, yeah.

I mean, that's what I was saying. That's why I was asking you, like, was this his genius period? Because the level of output that was coming, you know, and the frequency and the level at the same time. And we're not even talking about all the stuff he did for the time, right? We're not talking about glamorous life in the Sheila E Records, right? We haven't gotten to Madden Monday and all this.

And we just now get into sign of the times. Oh, man, I forgot the family came out in between this time. Nothing compares to you. I got so much heat. I will give nothing compares to you to people you will never think about ever again. Yeah. I'm going to get this record to the ballhead, the Irish lady. Yeah.

It's going to become a number one hit. You know what I'm saying? But that's after I give it to the family. Right. Right. after I give it to them. And now I'm going to do Sign of the Times.

And, man, Sound of the Times is the one where I had always said for the longest that it was the best Prince record. And technically speaking, it might be the best Prince record. I think you put it all together. It's still, Purple Rain did not sell

a zillion of those copies because he sold out. It sold a zillion of those copies because it was a truly visionary piece of work. But sign of the times, I think he was in his songwriting bag. If I was your girlfriend is peak songwriting. bright bag.

Yep. So is, so is, if I can never take the place of your man. Yes. I love that song so much, bro.

I do love it. That break, the breakdown of the extended version? Man. Yeah. Dorothy Parker. It's, yeah, Dorothy Parker,

Starfish and Coffee. It's so, it's so much heat on that album, though. Forever in my life, which I think might, like, has an argument for, like,

it's up there on the most underrated songs of all. of these. And oh, and then there's a door. Man, dog, you know, this is the coldest game I ever heard in my life, bro. That bro said, until the end of time. You know what I'm saying?

Yes. Man. Dude, a door is up there with as, as like perfect, like perfect hyper, perfect hyperbole of love. as in a door for Mia up there with the two except Prince Keeper Real, you can say that I'm a terminal case.

You can burn up my clothes, you can smash up my ride. Hey, maybe not right. Yep. Yeah, you got to bring himself back to reality real quick. Yeah, and that's the end of the album. Like, you get to the end of that, and he's like, all right, no more for you.

Like, me and the homie master were in here one day, and we watched the Prince, the 85 concert, and then it was over and then Master looked at me and was like, so what's next? And I was like, stop being greedy but then I was like, damn, what else are we supposed to do though?

You're right. Like, like, where, that's how, when a door inside of the times, it's like, wait a minute, so this is just over? Like, we're not. That was it. There's no more.

No. After you didn't give you all that, after you gave you all that heat, you know what I'm saying? Yes. And the deep album cuts on there to me are like so, like, it is underrated.

I think about it, baby all the time it goes hard slow love goes hard strange relationship goes hard all of these joints just go hard and then after this album though the black album came out and then there the stories about why the black album did come out the black album i love in part because at this time prince clearly did not have much time of respect for rap so he decided to show everybody that actually he can can program drums better than all these rapty rap guys can. And there is some incredible drum program on the black album. Lights out.

I need to go revisit that album. I hadn't listened to it in a very long time. Yeah, I got it on final. Like, it is a, it also, it has when two are in love for the first run. I think when two are in love is the only song that survived on the love sexy, which tells you how cold when two are in love is because he felt he had to completely separate himself from the black album because it was too dark. And they were like, nah, but we keep it this one.

Yeah. That's the only song I remember from it. Really? You know what I mean? Oh, I mean. I need to go back and listen to that album to kind of recalibrate my ears because it's been a really, really long time since I listen to it. Yeah. Like this is the stretch where it gets a little weird, right? Love sexy. Look, love sexy got Alphabet Street. It's God I wish you having. It's got when two are in love. It's got anesthesia. It's got some joys. But people were kind of like, hey, I don't know. Not sure. not fully sure then the Batman record came out I fuck with Batman I don't know how you feel about the Batman right now I'm I'm a big Batman person

I really like that album I feel like that was I feel like he took that on as a challenge yes you know what I'm saying he watched the movie and was like oh okay cool I got you I got you you know what I got you but I love the future

the future party man I'm a if you say so about scandalous and even bad dance Bad dance is too long, but it's like, okay, I see what's going on here. But I appreciated that he's like, this is going to be, it was a, it was a corporate synergy situation because Warner Brothers, okay, so I had to remember for people who are too young, in the summer of 1989, everything was about Batman.

Everything. Everything was about Batman. Batman T-shirts, everything. It was dominating culture like you would not believe. Right. I can't think of anything that has ever dominated, like a movie that hadn't even come out yet. Jack Nicholson is the Joker, all of this. It was everywhere.

And then Warner Brothers was like, we have Batman and we have Prince. Why don't we have Prince do the soundtrack? And Prince watched the movie. They gave Prince a clip in a movie. And he was like, okay. And then just threw together a soundtrack right fast for him. You seen that clip of him playing the bass? I think you're playing the, I think you're playing Party Man.

Yes. you know what I mean and yes oh man that's wonderful it's so cool it's so cool bro because he's he just that's that's another one in the moments this this is a through line that's been going on through this entire conversation where he's just like and you know I'm not really trying to flex for real but since y'all here yight it's time for me to show y'all that I'm the coldest motherfucker yeah yes you know what I'm saying I'm calling for show. I feel like Graffiti Bridge, again,

terrible record, but also he got some jams on the aisle. I mean, it's a terrible movie, my fault, but the record is not terrible. All right, I go far than things in the temple. Thieves and Temple. Can't stop this feeling I got. That one goes. The question of you.

That one goes. Thieves in the temple and my personal favorite, joy in repetition. That's a good one. That's a real good one, bro. Woo! That's a real good one. It's so good.

Like, I don't think anybody, like, joy of repetition is up there in the competition for, like, best of the best for him. Yeah, yeah. I would, I would, I would think be inclined to agree that that is a, that is a, that is a, should be a consensus top 10, maybe even top five print song. it's up there like it's that ill. It's up there for sure. Right. But we are also squarely in the era of talking about Prince albums with, well, it's got some jams on it, right?

Like, but what's weird is diamonds and pearls is a record I think of is, eh, it's got some jams on it. Except here are the first five singles on there. And again, this is past prime prince. Get off cream, insatiable diamonds and pearls and money don't matter tonight. Jam after jam after jam after jam. Dare I say five clubs. classics. Yep. And this is after it started to fall off just a little bit. Jam after jam after

jam. So diamonds and pearls, this is the Earthwin and Fire. I don't love the single. I admit, I don't love the, that jam I do not love. Oh, diamonds and pearls. Well, I'm just talking about the album in general, but that is, that is the, that's the Earth Win and Fire album for Prince, where the music on on diamonds and pearls, sounds really pretty. You're right. You know what I mean? You're right. You're right.

This is around the era where he and Mike were like, I want the brothers and sisters to love me again. Yeah. Right? They both came back home. The love symbol album, which is right before it gets really weird. That's got sexy motherfucker

of the morning papers, love to the nines. Damn you and seven. Damn you is a very, very underrated. the Prince back. Woo! Yes, it is. Yes, it is.

Yes, it is. Like, the thing for me, though, after this, when you get to the Post-Warner, there's a lot of really good stuff, Post-Warner, right? It's not always the easiest to talk about because you got the records that he put out just to spite Warner, right?

Like, you've got, like, the chaos and disorder in Cumber he's clearly just trying to get out of the deal, but you wind up with, like, the gold experience. The gold experience has got, it's got Billy Jack bitch it's got I hate you yeah like oh this has some jams

emancipation is way too long but I contend the second disc of emancipation is the last true classic that Prince did if all he put out was disc two he have another you have another classic on his hands we got another classic just by itself and then as I perhaps one of my boldest takes I told you

you and I talked about this briefly the B-side I prints in his B-side bag because that's not something that people really do anymore I can make an argument that between like 82 and 85 he put out a classic album if you just collected B-sides right so how come you don't call me anymore

um irresistible bitch I tell my mama I'm doing all this cussing because he's the name of the songs 17 days. Erotic City. Man, that's two for two right there, bro. God, which is not bad. Another lonely Christmas.

Girl is in here somewhere. Oh, yeah, girl, she's always in my hair. Mm-hmm. My fault. Almost forgot that one. Girl, I think, is the second. Yeah, girl, girl is the B-side to Pop Life, and hello is also on there.

those B-sides, put those together, that's a classic LP. You got a classic album. Oh, man, you reminded me about something we were speaking about earlier about Prince Records that DJs play that we can play. Erotic City is another one that I failed admission. But that's 100% of record that DJs play on a regular, even still to this day. You know, that's definitely one you got to keep in the, keeping Serrato or keeping your in your crates. You know what I mean?

You know what DJ? I have heard play, um, play Erotic City. Who is that? DJ Mike Hitman. I heard him play it once as the first song at a wedding. Oh, man. That's that, that, that tracks. That's wild.

That tracks, that track. Shout out to DJ Mike Hitman. bro. DJ Mike Kidd, man. Anytime I mention Mike like this, it's my reminder that it's been too long since I talked to Mike. It's always been too long since I talked to Mike. But no, this is like the music

is such an incredible thing, right? Just rattling and running through songs. Like my brother makes the point, he said before, that he doesn't know any act where the fans can talk about the songs in depth like they can. And that's, I think, in part because his familiarity with this world. There are other places in other worlds in which, you know, worlds in which

you could talk about it, like Beatles fans can talk about the records in the same way with prints. But for me, it does feel like it's more fun just because the range goes so far and what is possible on those records is so far. And again, we didn't even get to talk about all the stuff that isn't actually, well, it's his, but it ain't his because he ain't due to solve.

Like we went with 77793.11. We didn't get around to talking about that beast of a piece of work. Man. we talked about a song that bass players are mystified by because of the baseline. We talked about a song that guitar players are mystified by the solo. 7777 is the song that drummers are mystified by. You know what I'm saying? How did you do that?

How does this happening, bro? You know what I mean? But hold on. There's another weird thing about that, which is I've watched him play 7793. 11. And okay, look, I am not a musician. I don't have a lot of, like, musical gear that I know that much about. But the one thing my ear can always pick up is when somebody is playing the Fender Jazz.

Fender Jazz, if you play bass on the Fender Jazz, like all my favorite bass players, that's what they're about. If you listen to somebody play bass on a reggae record, like Aston Barrett are those guys. It's a very lush, in-front bass sound on a Fender Jazz. You can pick the tone out. Yep. Like if I hear it and I pointed out to you, you will be able to hear it everywhere else. But it is not a slap base, right? 7779311. I watch Prince do that and he's slapping on a Fender Jazz. And I'm like, I don't think I've ever seen anybody try to slap on a Fender Jazz.

And that's another one where he feels like, yeah, nobody else can do this. And he gave us all to somebody else in part because where it gets weird, a little bit too black and his ambitions were, to show them that he could do their stuff and so the time could come out here and put this jam out here. Yeah, man. Prince, for all his genes, bro, he was a first-rate asshole, G.

You know what I'm saying? Go ahead and say what you've been saying. Bro, it's the thing, the thing that's always puzzled me about everyone who's worked with Prince. They all, they all, they all, say this would love because they all love him.

But they all also say that he was a terrible person to work with. But the genius was so much genius that, you know, I guess that would be, the reason to stay around. And I just be like, man, like, bro, look, and I'm saying this is somebody that's five foot four, okay?

Right? How come y'all did you slap that little nigga in the head, bro? You know what I'm saying? If he was being such an asshole, especially like I mean I mean I guess you know like you know I guess why Alexander O'Neill left you know that big old dude from Mississippi you know what I'm saying he probably would have like like knocked about coal but I just didn't I just never I never got why no one I never hear stories about people of fighting back against his

his dictatorship so so to speak you know what I mean but I guess that's because you know and you made the point to me when we talked about this usually what he was saying was right. Yeah, that's the thing about those cats. You just don't like this Paul Simon line. I know you see through me, but there's no tenderness beneath your honesty.

That is like being right is not sufficient. Right? Like you know what the word is for brutal honesty? Brutality. Yeah, there you go. Right? And I say this is somebody who used to call himself brutally honest. I'm like, okay, but it's brutal.

Like, that doesn't change the fact. And it sounds like it wasn't always like that. Like it really got there around like 83, 84 is when it starts getting out of hand. And then like especially post-purple rain, where nobody could tell him a single thing. Like, I think Water Brothers gets a bad rap. They're like, brother, you just can't put out a record every year, man. Let it breathe. I feel like a slave.

We try to make your work less. You don't want to be in the field all day long. Yep. We ain't sold the last crop yet. Mm-hmm. Chill out. We ain't even got the harvest shit. And you're out here playing OCs.

Right. Like, come on, bro. Just, just relax. But they all are, right? Like, hey, man, you saw the things about them cats trying to fight Stevie Wonder, getting their ass whoop, but trying to fight Stevie Wonder. No, I hadn't seen this at all.

Oh man, Ray Parker Jr. Tell the story about they had some drummer who got sick of Stevie because Stevie was like Steve is the guy calling people in at 3 o'clock in the morning, calling them back after they'd already left. Like all of this, because these geniuses just have so much going on in their heads and if they need other people

to be there for it, right? They try to bring them back. So anyway, the drummer said he had enough of Stevie shit. And so he said he was going to fight Stevie. And so they decided that in order to make it fair that they would blindfold him. And so him and Stevie had a fight. Oh, man.

This sounds amazing. It said, Stevie. Okay, that boy, the beats. Oh, my God. I mean, depending on what you believe, depending on what you believe, Stevie be like that all the time. This is brand new to him.

So he out here, Izzy, don't know up from Dow. What a-da-da! Yeah, man, you got, you know, Steve got them, you like Daredevil, man, got them heightened senses. Yeah, Steve, like, Stevie. knocked him off his feet. Stevie looked at him and was like,

I ain't going to stand for this. Wait, way to land a plane. That was fantastic. Steve, Stevie hit him with that master blaster. That's right. That's right. Amen. Sometimes sometimes that's just with somebody,

need in that moment. You know what I'm saying? Stevie had to let them know. Oh, man. I guess I guess my tip of me is I can't be it around genius because I'd be like my I just, I got, I think you got some kind of issue with authority

just in general, you know what I'm saying? And that might be a Napoleon complex on my fault. It might be because you know, I'm my only child, who knows? You know, it could be something deep rooted. I got to work out therapy, but, but I'd just be like you know, like, you're seeing that, that Mason Cameron podcast

when they talk, and Mason's like, Joe Prince. Who is, who is, who are you? That's who I would have been. I'd be like, Prince has been like, you know, the one story that comes in my head right now is Jimmy Jam, talking about, you know, them doing seven, set, performing seven, seven, seven. And Prince is like, Jimmy Jam, why don't you doing the steps?

He's like, you know, he's playing the song. And Prince is like, why don't you, why don't you doing the steps? Why are you playing Jimmy Jam? And, you know, Jimmy Jam is just playing with his left hand. And Prince is like, Jimmy Jam, why don't you playing with both hands and doing the steps, Jimmy Jam? And I'm looking like, man, Jimmy Jam got to be what, a good six, two, six three. You know what I'm saying? You know, and, you know, that might, this man down here, you know, he's down here where I'm at, right?

And he's little. You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh. And I'm like, bro, man, I'd be like, I'd be like, boy, if you don't get my face, the bullshit, bro. Prith sound like that sort of that Lennon did on Kaua Lennett, and they said, well, Kauai Lennett was in college, and they were watching Phil, and they were struggling on defense.

And Kaua Liddard had the suggestion, why don't you guys just do what I do and stay in front of your man? It's simple to the genius. It's definitely simple to the union. And they don't understand, they don't understand why it ain't simple to everybody else. Yeah, why can you just not do the thing? Like, yeah, I taught, I taught some, some DJ classes before and I had to,

I had to rain in my patience one time with a, what a client I had, because they were doing something that, that is, in my, in my mind, it's just one of the simplest acts any kind of DJ could do, and they just couldn't get it at all. And I was like, what do you mean you can't get it, bro? I'm, like, I'm, this is too easy, you know, here you go.

Here you go. If somebody saying, somebody saying, I don't understand why somebody don't just slap that little motherfucker in the head. I know, I know. Hey, somebody out here.

Hey, I'm careless one, baby. You know, nothing like being contradictory. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man. That is DJ Wally Sparks. Check him out on Twitch. Twitch.com. slash DJ Wally Sparks.

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