The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Domonique Foxworth on Harbaugh's next move, Mike McDaniel fired, NFL playoffs begin | 01.09

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

Domonique Foxworth joins Bomani Jones to discuss everything going on in the NFL. First, they discuss the Ravens' firing of John Harbaugh and what his next move should be. Later, they react to the br...eaking news that the Dolphins fired Mike McDaniel and break down what went wrong in Miami. Finally, they preview what is on the line for teams in the NFL Wildcard round, and hilarity ensues from there. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is First Friday's with Dominique Fossworth.
Starting point is 00:00:25 What's going on, Big Dog? Oh, yeah, not much, man. Just happy that we had to playoff. That final week of football, man. I know they're trying to add more. Like, God, we don't need. no more. That for last week was rough. Oh, no. And it's just, look, man, every, like my
Starting point is 00:00:39 dad always say, every, everything you own is a bill waiting to happen. Every week of football, disaster is just a little bit closer. It's just like, it's so, I don't know, maybe, well, no, I feel like mathematically so, the more games
Starting point is 00:00:55 you add, the more likely you're going to have irrelevant games, right? Right. Like, it's more chance. So, yeah, that's the thing that it's like, man, there's just so many games that didn't matter with quarterback whose names I had never seen before. It was like, what are we doing? I mean, it feels like such a short-sighted money grab in the end.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Like 16, 16 felt like the sweet spot, right? But now we're here. It's the playoffs that they added one more team to that nobody needed that. That's my thing with the playoffs is, hey, man, we don't have enough good teams. It's like when they talk about expanding the NCAA tournament, who you letting in? Yeah. And the thing is like it seems so obvious and it seems so so silly a decision,
Starting point is 00:01:41 but obviously they know what they're doing. They recognize what they're selling. They're like, yeah, we, they know the trade off. Yeah, I bet y'all going to watch. Bet you y'all going to watch. Exactly right. All right. You're going to talk all that shit, but you go white, but it's my job. I got to do it for work. Yeah, that's right. Get your ass out there and get to work, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:59 But before we get to the playoffs and we have a lot there, you are a former Baltimore Raven. You played for John Harlebaugh. Here on the right time, we expected him to get fired. Were you surprised? Yeah, I mean, I think it's one of those things
Starting point is 00:02:15 that you know is going to happen eventually, inevitably, and like it was reasonable for it to happen now, but it still was like, damn, you just got used to it. So like, it was kind of, it wasn't like, wasn't something that I was like, I can't explain this.
Starting point is 00:02:29 This is so ridiculous. But it's still like, oh, damn, they really did it. especially the time when it happened. Like I was at dinner with Swagoo. Like I had moved on. I guess we weren't at dinner yet. I was headed to dinner with Swagoo.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And it came through the thing. Yeah, I'm all. I go to early dinners. And I was hungry. It was a, it was a spur of the moment type of thing. He wasn't planning on being there. I'd be hungry on the spur of the moment too. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:02:55 Next week, what you're doing, man? I'll be here. You know what I'm at? I'll be up there. Next week. Guarrete. You got really like, Dominic be here every weekend. I see Dominique, what's a football season?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Not every weekend. It's during the week. I mean, every week. Either way. I get, I'm not bad. It was like three times this season. It was twice. But you know what the thing is, though?
Starting point is 00:03:13 I'd have to explain this to people about New York. It's 8 million people here. Right? So when somebody come in to New York, maybe you see them, maybe you don't. Because there's a million people here. I got to be honest with you. And the same thing that I said to Marcus is, it's not about that there's a bunch of different people to see. is that I don't never want to do nothing,
Starting point is 00:03:34 but I'm always happy I did it. It's the most ridiculous dynamic that maybe other people understand, maybe it's my own personal thing. It's like, I'll be like, man, I don't really want to do this. I don't want to go out. I want to go to bed.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And every time I get together with some friends and go do something, whether it's here or anywhere else, I'm always like, that was nice. I really enjoyed doing that, but I still can't get myself to make no plans. Well, that's what it is, and it's interesting. Neither of us is the imposing type. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:06 But you have to be imposed upon. Right. Right. Like, if you are imposed upon, you will go for it and you will be cool. But it's not, I'd be like, y'all, man, Dominique down there, I'm going to let him do what he's going to do. No, that is not actually going to work. Like, that's not, that's not the program. We locked it.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Guarantee. It's all good. It's all good. You a swag who go to dinner, full. Yeah, and as I'm walking, I get the alert that's like, it pops up and I'm like, oh, damn. And so, like, it stunned me, but it wasn't something that I was like completely shocked by. And anybody who the rumors got louder and louder. So, like, I'm a little bit closer, like, physically and also, like, socially,
Starting point is 00:04:53 closer to the Ravens than most people. So, like, some of the rumors that are starting to come out and some of the reporting that's coming out about relationships and discomfort and lost connection, locker room or things that I've been hearing for a little while. And so, like, when that stuff starts to bubble up, especially with a guy who is as talented and important to the organization as Lamar Jackson is, then, of course, it's going to lead to this stuff at some point.
Starting point is 00:05:16 But, yeah, it's still surprising. So this is my question about that, because, you know, we talked about it here on a YouTube video that we did. And look, you've been there for 18 years, like, this happens. This is just kind of what it is. you guys were, they were highly disappointing this season. They decided it was time for a change. There also appear to be reports that Lamar Jackson has some growing up to do,
Starting point is 00:05:41 one might argue. And I think the question I have, and I'm curious your thoughts on, is not even so much like, it feels patronizing to say somebody needs to grow up, especially because he's almost 30 years old now. Like, he's a guy that you got me like, yo, he ain't as young as it seemed like he was. But I wonder, like, I look at Kauai Lillard. Leonard in the NBA and I say, oh, you want the money, right? And you want to be able to show up whenever you want because you're the best,
Starting point is 00:06:07 but you don't want none of the burden or the onus that comes with that to be the leader, the example setter, right? Like the guy that says how everything is going to be. Like we get reports that Lamar, they don't even know from day to day whether he feel like practicing or not. And that to me, from where I stand, feels like something that needs to change. It's very unfootball, too. It's like you brought up Kauai.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Basketball, you hear about things like this more often where there's guys who really talented and they take advantage of that talent. But you also hear the stories of the guys who have the most success are the guys who are those superstars, but they are reluctant to use that card. Like, you know, we set up this operation,
Starting point is 00:06:51 but I know what it takes and I know that the way that I behave is going to impact the culture. of this team. I think what you said, like, grow up is like a euphemism for like, be more professional, you know, and I don't think that this is a unique work environment. And so, and you come into a ton of power. And to your point, like he's about to be 30, if you think about, it's only in sports, you know, I guess maybe startups where it's a 30 year old right that's running all this. Like, you know what I mean? Like, to be the person
Starting point is 00:07:26 that everyone looks to for leadership and guidance and, like, the vibes in the building today are going to be based on how much sleep you got last night. You 30? That's normally somebody that at the youngest is 55. They've maybe 42. I don't know, but like normally it's, you've lived the whole bunch and you've also, like, worked your way up through these other settings where you've seen what it's like to be there. So, like, we assume that those guys are ready for that automatically, but also like to the interpersonal stuff, I don't know exactly what's going on in the building. But if you feel like you're getting mistreated, and we all can attest to this, you feel like you're getting mistreated or underappreciated or whatever it is
Starting point is 00:08:09 that you're feeling. And again, I'm not talking about Lamar specifically. It's not anything that I know firsthand. But when you get one side of the story, it sounds like it's one person that's like, I don't really care about this. Not to say that the actions that were reported are justified, but sometimes the actions are in response to something that you are feeling or a way that you feel like you are being treated. Again, is indefensible. Ultimately, no one is going to,
Starting point is 00:08:39 you are also the person who all this is going to hang on, which is why I kind of understand and ultimately came around to like, if this was something that was pushed by Lamar, by all means, Because we're not going to look back on his career and say, man, he was the greatest. It don't matter how many Super Bowls he won. He was the greatest. They let him down in this way, that way, the other way. No, we're going to be like, hey, he couldn't get it done in the big moments.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Right. And look, for whatever reason, the Tile Munkin thing didn't really work for him. The idea that Harbaugh is like, I refuse to fire Tile Munkin. Okay, you must have just wanted to go somewhere else because this is a, like, got to do what you got to do sometimes, big dog. Like, I know Bruce Arian's does not speak to Mike Tomlin anymore. more based on a very similar situation, but sometimes that's just trades you got to make. Like, if you,
Starting point is 00:09:26 if Lamar, if the quarterback doesn't want to play for the offensive coordinator, then we got to go get a new offensive coordinator. Yeah, that sounds to me like it was a, it was a, piece of a bigger picture. Yeah. Where it's like, one thing about the Ravens
Starting point is 00:09:42 has been, they've been such a, like, professionally run and, like, top, heavy, like, leadership structure. from Ozzy who's still involved to De Kasa to Harbaugh and it and Joe Flacco wasn't going to be the guy and he wasn't like he wasn't good enough frankly to be that guy's a unique place that this organization's been in they've been good the whole time they existed pretty much like competitive right they've never had a superstar quarterback and they've never had and they
Starting point is 00:10:11 had like superstar linebackers and defensive players but and quarterbacks right yeah and so like to me at least it comes down to that felt like it wasn't about Todd Munkin. They've been through so many coordinators over there. Harba, I've been in 19 years. He didn't hide and find a ton of people. He wasn't about Todd Munkin. It was about, at least to me,
Starting point is 00:10:32 I'm in charge. We're going to do it my way. And I'm going to bend a little bit, but this is the final one. Like, no, you're not going to tell me who, and I respect that from both sides where it's like, look, at a certain point, there's some level of power that I must maintain. If I'm going to run this, You're not going to tell me who I can hire and fire.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I won a Super Bowl. If I got to go for that, I got to go for that. Like, I respect both of them and ultimately how this panned out. Yeah, it bees like that sometimes. You know, like, okay, one of us is, like, something I never forget is when Russell Westbrook left Houston and was just like, I don't want to play with James anymore. And James is like, I don't want to play with Russell anymore. And them boys is still freaking frack, man.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Like, they just looked at each other. It was like, hey, man, I don't think we meant to be roommates. It bees like that. Sometimes I said a whole bunch of words and you quite succinctly, boring it down to the truth. It's like, man, sometimes it bees like that. Bees like that. By the way, I don't know if you saw this,
Starting point is 00:11:35 but on Wednesday, Josina Anderson reported that the Miami Dolphins had been in touch with John Harbaugh, which was a bit of an issue because on Wednesday, the Miami Dolphins still had a head coach. Mike McDaniel was their head coach. And the fact that he was still the head coach made me raise the question where I always say is like, so who does and does not know that this man is black? Apparently, Stephen Ross figured it out because on Thursday, the man got fired.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Ooh, they fired him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, McDaniel's gone. I mean, look, man, once you start. I didn't even see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. McDaniel got fired. Once, it's always bad news when the streets find out that you tried to highlight another coach while you still got to coach.
Starting point is 00:12:18 It's over. It's over. But it raises the question, though, would Stephen Ross have kept McDaniel if he didn't think that maybe he would have a chance at John Harbaugh? Harbaugh's a fool if he goes and takes that job, just so we're clear. Who go throw the ball for them?
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah, I don't agree with that wholeheartedly. And it took me, I like figure this out on air at Get Up, where I was like, everyone who's looking at the most favorable situation is someone who's looking, your people, the people who are looking at like the roster and how close you are. When you're a coach like John Harbaugh,
Starting point is 00:12:57 you don't need to prove yourself early on. You don't necessarily, if you look at the jobs that are available, point to the quarterback that you want to be tied to. It ain't there. Like outside of that, everywhere you're looking for a quarterback, but you point to a spot where there is no GM, which is huge, Because no matter where John was going, he was, he was firing a gym unless he went with Monty Austin Fort, which apparently out in Arizona, they have like a relationship. Maybe that would have worked out.
Starting point is 00:13:28 But wherever he going, y'all gone. He got that type of power, you know, right? And he also can build up this team and the image that he wants. I don't know that like if Herbert's available, like when his brother took the job, if Lamar Jackson is available, you want to attach yourself to that. But of the available jobs, is that, and like you could take the Raiders job and get Mendoza. But like, if it's all about the roster, he's not in a position. If you're a first year head coach, you're in a position where like, man, I got to show they got something this year or the clock ticks. But I think Harbaugh, what you want is an owner that's willing to spend money and is committed to trying to win.
Starting point is 00:14:09 But also, don't meddle too much. And you might have that with Stephen Ross, maybe. So I agree with everything that you're saying, right? First of all, before I forget, Monty Austin Fort, hashtag white Monty. It's Monty with an eye, by the way. And I looked up a picture because I was like, huh, it could go either way. And no, no, no, no, no. He is actually from Louverne, Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And, I mean, he a white man with a baldy and a goatee. So, like, maybe on the phone he sound like Monty. You know what I'm saying? But just throwing that out there. My thing with Miami is, I guess we've just been watching 30 years of various levels of ineptitude from the franchise. And to me, it's not even a matter of them having a great quarterback. What's the, like, how are we supposed to get one? And I don't know what the path is there on it.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Because I agree with you in the sum total point and the rest of the roster. I'm with you on, hey, I'm John Harbaugh, maybe you're going to give me some time. But at the same time, I just saw them run Pete Carroll out of there. after one year. Now, granted, they looked terrible, but I just saw them run him out of there after one year. And, like, Pete Carroll's not, he's not John Harbaugh. Just because their resumes are somewhat similar,
Starting point is 00:15:27 Pete Carroll was a decision that they made when they couldn't get the guy that they wanted. It wasn't like the cycle started, and everyone was like, oh, can we get Pete Carroll? Kind of like, I know it sounds ridiculous now, but kind of like how Bill Belichick was. Yeah. Like, if you'd hire Bill Belichick,
Starting point is 00:15:42 you was going to give him five years, at least to do you. something, figure something out. And I think that's the same thing. And so I guess the real question is, how long are they under this tour thing? And you know what? I thought of Sean Payton as the last coach that kind of felt like
Starting point is 00:15:57 the way Belichick feel, or excuse me, the way that Harbaugh feels right now. And Sean Payton was like, I'm going go, let me holl at these Walton's. Yeah. Let me hollet these Walton's in Denver and build something up here. I know we are underneath this ridiculous cap
Starting point is 00:16:12 restriction because of the Russell Wilson deal. But we got an organization that with young or new owners that got all the money that are willing to pay what I need to pay in order to make this roster complete, like commit money past time and commit to the facilities, commit to me hiring the best coaching staff that I can in front office. Like all that stuff is the stuff that we don't talk about when we talk about choosing jobs. But ultimately, if you're going to be there for a long time, have sustained success. It's not a coincidence that we, there are certain teams that that only pop up in a Super Bowl once in a while because they got hot Cincinnati. I mean, keep it real, that's the Giants. Yeah. Like they won those, I mean, they won those two Super Bowls, but when they won them, it is exactly the scenario that you described.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Because you hear Harbaugh's name pop up with the Giants. We treat the Jets like a joke. And it's fair to treat the Jets like a joke. I've been living here for this is the ninth football season that I've done. here. They're the same, dog. They just wear different colors. And they also like, it's branding. It's
Starting point is 00:17:20 branding also. Yeah, but the Giants have four Super Bowls, right? The Giants had Lawrence Taylor, all of those things. But for however many years, the Giants in the Jets, lo miso, as they say in Espanio, lo miso. Yeah, I don't
Starting point is 00:17:36 love that. I mean, that's another one where it's like, if you're going there as John Albaugh, then that's because you think Jackson Dart has a chance to be a top of the league quarterback. And that's, yeah, that's about it. And they have a bunch. They have tackle. That's really good. They have pass rusher or a whole D-line. That's really good. Like, they have some exciting pieces. But I think when you're a coach like this, it's a mistake for us to think that the best job is the best roster. Well, let me ask you this. If distillers get ran by the Texans, which is on the board,
Starting point is 00:18:09 and they decide to let Mike Tomlin go. Now, of course, the trick bag in this is, it don't matter what none of us think. Stillers decisions are made by the stillers, right? Like, I don't even know if they got a telephone line for the fans to call in. You know what I'm saying? Nah.
Starting point is 00:18:26 But let's say they let Mike Tomlin go. Would they dare hire John Harbaugh? Absolutely not. See, that's the thing is I think a lot of teams are looking around and are attracted to John Harbaugh because they haven't lived that life. like this life of 20 years of being good and competitive. They haven't lived that life.
Starting point is 00:18:49 The dolphins are like, we could be the Ravens. We could lose, we could have disappointment in the playoffs every year. That would be marvelous. And maybe have a chance to win a Super Bowl in 19 years. That be tremendous. I guarantee you, it's not only that he's a Raven and that's like sacrilege to the Steelers, is that we're the same. We're the same.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Same both. And they go, yeah, they're going to look at him and like, he, at least we could say, John, that Tomlin didn't have a quarterback. You had an MVP. Don't you bring your ass over here with that. I do not think that the Steelers fans would be excited about, they would make fun of Ravens fans and have a good time with that. But they would not be excited about bringing them in.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Because they've been, they live in the same neighborhood. That's not an upgrade to them. They ain't, you know, they ain't trying to make no trade. They try to switch out. They try to bring in Stafin. they not tried to do wife swap, not right there. They are not swapping up in that situation. I'm trying to think.
Starting point is 00:19:52 The coaching thing was interesting because, like, I don't think there was anything that was shocking. The shock was that Mike McDaniel had kept his job, and they went ahead and clinked up that situation. That one got taken care of. I don't know who the people are that people want to hire, but I have to acknowledge about NFL coaching, NBA coach and I always say,
Starting point is 00:20:14 you can go get a broadcaster, a dude off the street, whatever, I got no idea who's going to turn out to be that guy. Usually, like, guys that look terrible in press conferences, and in spite of his success, this does include Nick Siriani. They typically are not the guy, right? Siriani, again, the weirdest case of any coach of all time. I don't know what it'll take for him to get credit. I don't know what it'll take for him to get fired.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I don't have any answers to any of those questions. But I will say this, that goddamn Liam Cohen and seemed like the biggest dork in the world at that press conference and they look like an even bigger dork when he made Robert Sala threaten to kill him. Dominic appears to be very good at his job. He does appear to be very good at his job. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And it's also, the more I think about it, it's like authenticity matters as far as connecting with players and connecting with the players really matters. Then after that, the scheme stuff matters. You have to be able to connect with them in order for the scheme stuff to be executed. and like that trust and that commitment. That stuff you don't really, like there have been coaches
Starting point is 00:21:16 who've had a spike. So we'll see if, if Liam Cohen is able to sustain this over a while, but it seems clear that he's had immediate impact. And then there's like so many other variables that determine, like this season started. I made this point a long time ago, like around, I don't know, week seven or so,
Starting point is 00:21:34 where their offense wasn't quite where it needed to be and their defense was getting ridiculous turnover luck. and they were still in good spirits. And I was like, you know what? These turnovers are buying them time. It's buying them time because they could have been like under it. They had like three, two, three wins by then. But they were winning games because they were having good turnover luck.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And that's one of the variables that I think put them in this position now where they just ripped off eight wins in a row, just dominated the Titans on their way into the playoffs. And if to your point about like the branding difference in the New York team, It's like, if the Jags was in a different uniform, the way that they closed this season out with a number one overall quarterback playing the way that he's been playing, there'll be no questions asked.
Starting point is 00:22:26 We expect them to rip through the playoffs. So, yeah, I think that having the right, having a little bit of luck and understanding that all the variables aren't always going to work out, like there have been great coaches that have failed before. there have been bad coaches that have had a tremendous amount of success. But right now it seems like they got a good marriage there. And there's no reason to believe that it's going to fall off for them anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:22:50 But we'll find out. Things break up. Well, and Trevor Lawrence is starting to look like what we thought was going to happen. That's the big one. Coaching. But he wasn't at the beginning of the season, is my point. Yeah. Remember Liam Cohen was pounding on his chest, like hit him here with it.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Like, Trevor wasn't doing it. That defense was holding him together. Man, I wish some dude named Liam would talk to me, like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the good for him, man. He was a college quarterback one thing, I think. Yeah, yeah. He, uh, he kicked it at, UMass
Starting point is 00:23:20 with a Victor Cruz. That was his, that was his man's. It's still like, okay, I guess this is, when he told Robert Solid to keep my name out your mouth, I was just like, oh, Mr. White man, what are we doing here? I got a,
Starting point is 00:23:36 I gotta do a quick, um, Liam Google to make sure I'm right about this thing. Yeah. By the way, do you know what Liam is short for? Uh-uh. Liam is short for William. Oh.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I had long wondered where the hell these Liams come from, but that is the origin of the name Liam is that it's short for William. And I think that's trying too hard to make a nickname. I thought Liam, Liam's not a name? No, no. Liam is like, even if it is a name, it is a derivative of William. It's like, yeah, but I was just like, wow, why would you do that? Because I'd always wonder where the hell it came from.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I know people named Dre, but I assume that at one point, it wasn't a Dre. It was an Andre. Yes. Yeah, then Dre became so mainstream that every now of then you just get a Dre. Yep. Yep, yep, yep. Did you give what you looking for? Yeah, sometimes we like to communicate in show.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And I just wanted to send you that, which I wasn't sure about. Let me, let me see, let me see. Word? Yeah. Yeah, keep his name on your mouth. Hey, I can't, oh, okay. I thought, I thought so, but I had to double check for my man, Liam. Yo, that was him.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Okay, I was somebody, I was trying to remember who I had seen a picture of him and his folks. Yeah. It was him where I was like, yo, let me zoom in on this picture a little bit more. Yeah, that's why he gave you that R&B Duvonne. That man, yeah, he's like a little. rhythm and blues. I'd say it is, though, he appears to have
Starting point is 00:25:15 some very strong jeans. They look like Mike McDaniel's kids. They do look like when they are applying for NFL jobs, they go like, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:25:29 we check that box too. Yeah, yeah, they don't have to tell you. Yeah, yeah, we don't really need to talk about it that much, you know? Let's focus on what we got in common, baby, what we got in common.
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Starting point is 00:28:22 Hey, man, Texans, that's the Monday night game. Hey, Mike Tomlin, be careful. That's an isolated game. At the very least, you want to keep that one close, and it is possible that the Texas can blow their doors off. Yeah, and yeah, it's prime time. Everybody's going to be locked in, And it's not only, this is another thing.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Like you, I think, it was a long time ago when you started like bringing attention to these island games and how important they were, which I started to notice recently is it's not just the island game, but it's the last game before the next day of programming. And it's like A1, A1 on the rundown. What? When we, so the Thursday night games, those, you better not have a bad showing on a Thursday night because we ain't got nothing to do on Friday. you better not, you better not choke.
Starting point is 00:29:08 So the thing on the Thursday night is worse because the Monday night, we're still going to talk about what happened on the weekend. But we're going to start with what happened last night. But when you had a Thursday night game, we ain't projected nothing. You give us something to talk about. So this is similar to that because it's a Monday night game on the playoffs. And it's also the Steelers. They're like one of these public teams that everyone loves to talk about.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And he better hope there's some madness over the weekend because if it's not, but I guess it doesn't matter because it feels like, if there's any ownership group that doesn't respond to the fans outrage. It might be the Steelers, but we are going to tear his ass up on Tuesday morning if it don't look good on Monday night. And the part of it is when they lose these games and they don't play well, it don't be looking in spite of him. Like he keeps, and I don't mean this pejoratively,
Starting point is 00:30:01 but it's not a complex approach. At least it doesn't seem like to what they do there, right? kind of a do what you're supposed to do, and then everything from there will work itself out. But they run it up on a team that's just got a different level of talent than they have. Especially, I mean, obviously on defense. So like they, this actually is not the worst matchup for them. It's like they, their front could potentially, their defensive front could dominate the Texans offense, which could keep the game close.
Starting point is 00:30:32 But in their favor is they don't have to start throwing short. passes and screens just because they scared of this pass rush. They scare to every pass rush. That's their offense. So that would be the argument for them, but there's no weak spots on this defense. And the Steelers' offense, they get decayed back,
Starting point is 00:30:51 which helps, but they don't feel like they have an advantage anywhere on that side of the ball. Yeah. Now, I can take this back to coaching carousel because that carousel ain't really finished. Saturday night might be Matt LaFleu's last game as the coach of the Packers,
Starting point is 00:31:08 Sunday at 1 o'clock, low-key could be Sean McDermott's last game. Because they got the Jacksonville. They play against Jacksonville on the road. And it just ain't for so long that you can keep going with this. It's kind of what happened with a hardball. There's only but so long that coaching quarterback
Starting point is 00:31:22 can keep going and not wind up at least playing for the championship before somebody decides to make a decision. And LaFleur, I don't really know what's going on there. I seem to think more highly of him than his bosses do. Yeah. I think that those Those situations are slightly different in that the bill situation seems obviously much more like the Lamar's situations.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Where they're going to holler at my man after it's all saying done and be like, hey, a, menace, do you believe? All right, we're good. And if the menace take a second to think about it, they'll be like, oh, what's it like? Let's go look around. But I think the LaFleur thing in Green Bay is definitely different. and Stefanski became attractive candidate because of this year it's like crop as soon as he got fired
Starting point is 00:32:11 I think that Lafleur, his contract is expiring soon, right? That's the major situation there. He'll be, he'll be an extension. Next year, I think, will be the lame duck year. Oh, next year will be the lame duck year. I think so. I think so. Right, right, right. So he has one more year. Yeah, no one ever,
Starting point is 00:32:26 coaches don't go into a contract with the final year to contract. Like, it never really happens. unless it's one of these particularly cheap teams. So, like, this is the extension time, right? So, yes, the rest of this year and then next year, right? Yes. Yeah, so normally because, and whether it's true or not,
Starting point is 00:32:43 but because they want the coach to have ultimate power and respect in the locker room, they won't let a coach coach as lame duck season. So this is effectively a year where they have to give an extension or move on from them. So he might be looking around. The problem is he got a quarterback. in a team that seems to consistently with Goudicuns, Goody, man, he'd be filling that roster, man, consistently. Like, I wouldn't want to go nowhere.
Starting point is 00:33:09 However, he might be someone who's like, man, let me get up out of here because right now it's a buyer's market, man. It's a buyer's market and he might want to get out there as a quarterback guy because there's tons of good defensive assistance out there. But if you're a mediocre offensive guy, they're going to move you to the top of the list because they have this foolish misconception that they're smarter over there than we are over here. Now, can you imagine a world in which Lamar Jackson tries to get himself out of Baltimore?
Starting point is 00:33:36 Because he kind of could if he wanted to, right? Like, no guarantee money left on his deal, a crazy high cap. Like, they have to, they got to do something with his deal pronto. Yeah. I mean, I assume that this was the first step. And that's the interesting thing about like, I know the thing about him not having an agent comes up often, but him not having an agent and also him not being like super gregarious. is like, I wouldn't have made this move unless I had an understanding.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Like, I would love him being unique in that way is I would normally make the leap that they got that figured out, right? It's like, this was a conversation. If this was just about any other player, I'd be like, oh, well, if they did that, that mean they got that figured out because they don't want to end up in a world where they have neither of those guys. Right. But I just know our man Kravitz had a great idea.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Lamar forced himself to Atlanta, Lefleur, find your way to Atlanta, and let Matt LaFleur have Lamar Jackson, Bejohn, Robbins, and Kyle Pitts and Drake, London. Now, of course, the Falcons don't have a first round pick this year, which would make it very difficult for them to make that move. But good God, if that happened, they'd never have to throw. In that division.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Play a bums. Go ahead and get that by every year. Go ahead and get that buy every year. They keep the coordinator, the defensive coordinator. And you ever think that Arthur Blank feel bad about holding the line about that Lamar Jackson thing a couple years ago when they was all clouting to not give him some deal? I was too old to be acting like this, dog. I don't know, man. I can't imagine that that's so dumb.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I'm saying Arthur Blank, Arthur Blank renegotiating his deal. You know what I'm saying? Every year. There's a big cap hit looming right around the corner. every day for Arthur Blank. And instead of finding the way to make it happen when to renegotiate that, no, man, he should have been like,
Starting point is 00:35:35 fuck y'all. What you want, young man? You come play for us. Yeah, y'all can be mad. I mean, y'all wind up, they traded picks to get, what, the James Pierce dude. Then they, did they have to move some stuff around to get? No, they did not move things around to get Michael Pennix.
Starting point is 00:35:49 They just gave Kirk Cousins a zillion dollars. Come on. And then drafted a quarterback with a first round pick. Come on, dog. That was absurd. especially when Lamar was getable. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah. No. What did you think about their 49ers Eagles game? Because I watched the 49ers play last week for the first time, and I don't know how long. And I told you they had 11 dudes on defense. I ain't never heard of 10 of them. And the 11th I saw Patrick Mahomes walk through on the goal line one time.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yeah, they're in trouble, man. And you saw that offense that seemed unstoppable get stopped by a really good defense. They're going up against another really good defense. And I think, if nothing else, slow that offense, but their defense is not a sophisticated, complicated, defense. And when you have something like that, you got to have players, right? You can't, like, I'd say Brian Flores, I think will elevate guys and take, he's capable of taking guys because the defense will trick and confuse people. That 49ers, since Kyle Shanahan's been there and through a number of coordinators, it's never been complicated.
Starting point is 00:36:59 It's like, we're going to whip that ass and we're not going to confuse ourselves. We're going to play zone on the back end and whoop that ass up front. You ain't got no ass whoopas up there no more, man. You saw what the Eagles look like when they played some bad defenses late in the season. They played the Raiders, and they played the commanders. They scored. They moved the ball. So I don't, I don't see the, it's nuts because the 49ers were a few points away from being the number
Starting point is 00:37:24 on overall seed, but honestly, don't see them putting up too much of a fight against the eagle. If they had won that game, they wouldn't have had to lead a crib until 2026. Well, I guess it is 2026, but you understand what I'm saying. The official 2026 season, they would have had home field advantage and the Super Bowl was at the crib if they managed to get that far. Now, they was never going to get that far. They guess they're healthy, man. Nah, look, man, I just need the Eagles to keep it fun, baby.
Starting point is 00:37:50 That's the thing about this. If the Eagles could just keep it, it's a role game too. so you never know what might happen. Like the Eagles need to just keep this close and then barely win. And Siriani seemed way too confident in himself. So we could have clips of AJ Brown looking at him again. Like, look at, look at this.
Starting point is 00:38:08 You see that? Look at this fool, man. Yeah, after that Bill's game, man. It was a bad throw, man. It was a bad throw and some great defense by young Vic Fangio, I guess not young, but Vic Fangio and those guys. And he was walked in the locker or walking through that tunnel, like,
Starting point is 00:38:27 like he just adjusted the shit out of that thing. Like, he out adjusted everybody at half Tyler, man. Like, AJ does not take you seriously at all. You saw Miles Garrett rolling his eyes at Safowski. Oh, my God, that was so funny. He's like, I don't lie. And it was like, it was magical. Like, you think we don't know?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Like, that was, that honestly, if I had been Jimmy Haslam and I had been thinking about keeping him and then I saw that video, no, you got to go job. To be fair, you can go on the roster, any roster and find some players who don't like that coach. But if it's Miles Garrett giving the side eye, we can't play that.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Well, hold on. It's the side eye and he wasn't side eyeing into space. He clearly had locked eyes with somebody else. Clearly they be taught. That sounded like they be talking. talking all the time about how he be lying. He's like, I don't lie. Have I ever lied to you?
Starting point is 00:39:31 I would love to get a list. Like the NFLPA needs to do that where they got to take the survey of the facilities and the cafeteria and all those different things. Like a list of who be lying, like a Pinocchio index of coaches where they just be lying. Like they be lying about stuff that you ain't even got to lie about. That's the thing is that the coaches who should be against the PA doing something like that are the coaches who don't lie. Because you know what that's going to do?
Starting point is 00:40:05 That's going to encourage the rest of y'all to be decent. Yes. And that might make you better coaches. Like, we're not stupid. We know what's going on here. Tell me the truth. And I'll believe in you. I'll run through a wall and tell me the truth.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Oh, no. See, this is where I disagree with you. It's because them cats they just be lying. it's a lifestyle. So you can tell everybody that they be lying and you know what they're going to do? Lie about the fact that they be lying. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Like there's no, there's no, there's no truth that a lie can't fix. That's true. You don't think that there is. So yeah, I agree that there are some people. I've been around long enough to know. Some people, they just, they just be lying. But you don't think there's like some middle ground of people
Starting point is 00:40:50 who are lying for advantage or lying for ease. It's like, I go see this player. It's much easier to tell him that he got a chance to make this team and that he's starting or he's benched because the guy in front of him is better than him. Or the guy in front of him, or you tell him whatever you got to tell him, this guy is, he's better in this position because of whatever reason. Then to be honest and be like, look, we got a lot of money tied up in him. He's going to get all the chances.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Or is this a matter of, because the guys that you just described right there, they don't have that much leverage. So, like, finding out who be lying, they don't really get to do something about it. How about if we could somehow, like, you know how you got like adjusted DVO way, adjusted net yards per attempt, right? The lion is adjusted for how good a player is or is not. Like, you can't be lying to your best player. But you can lie to these bums, maybe.
Starting point is 00:41:44 You got a little bit more leeway in that regard. I like next-gen lion statistic. We got the advanced analytics on you. Live VO8. Like we don't, we'll lobby OA, right? Like, it's a different. And so people don't know how DBOA works. It works from down to down.
Starting point is 00:41:58 And so if you get 10 yards on first and on second and eight, that is treated as more impactful than getting 10 yards on second and 17, right? It's as a function of yards to go is the way that they come up with the formula. And so, yeah, man, if you, you know, these 13 18 cats on the bottom, tell them all kinds of lies. You know? but that third and one up there, you better be straight up with him. I can't tell you no lies, man.
Starting point is 00:42:28 That's absolutely right. Brother, I can't even lie. I can't lie to you. Yeah, uh-uh. I'm gonna keep it real with you. Like, you can tell who you want to tell. Maybe you can tell them the truth, but I'm,
Starting point is 00:42:39 I'm gonna keep it real with you. Oh, gosh. And in football, it seemed like the kind of place where, like, you might as well just tell the truth. That's my thought, man. I never got the coaches who was out there lying to anybody, even the second and 18 guys. Like, we ain't dumb.
Starting point is 00:42:57 We know the deal. By the time you got here, especially these modern players who are in college in a way that's more professional than it's ever been, who are transferring from year to year, like, let's keep it real, man. Like, my hands are tied on some things. I want to do this. I know Jeff told on my show the other day Saturday was talking about how his old line coach back in the day was like, look, we all working towards the same thing. I'm going to tell you how I want to do it.
Starting point is 00:43:22 If you do it your way out there, better work. But if you do it my way, I can tell you how to fix it. But like, we all going to get fired. Like, I don't want to fight you.
Starting point is 00:43:30 That's the thing that coaches making that mistake all the time where it's like, it's such, there's so, like, incentivized to be top down. It's like the best teams I haven't been around
Starting point is 00:43:39 was the ones where we was much closer to the peers and we could be honest about it. Like, yeah, we got to do this. I don't feel comfortable about this matchup. You know what? I would, I would never say that to anybody who I didn't trust and believe in. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:54 No, this is. I'm lying. I got them. Don't worry. I got them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe in my hell. No, I don't roll no safety over here. You know how many times I told him I need no safety help? Never tell nobody I need no safety help, but I was hoping, I was hoping that he knew. You want to slide a little something over there, baby. That's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if you need it somewhere else, go ahead. put it over there, but I'm saying if he ain't spoken for
Starting point is 00:44:21 he ain't doing nothing else. Bring it on over here. Just a couple steps. A couple steps. Yeah, this show. It shows some color over there. Hey, how bad would it look for Justin Herbert if Drake, they're going on the road to play against New England,
Starting point is 00:44:38 but if Drake made a quarterback over there and he out, he played Justin Herbert, I mean, let's not forget, Justin Herbert was out there when they blew that lead to the Jaguars that year. I think the thing with Justin Herbert is he's got so much, he already got the built-in excuse. I think we look at this season for Justin Herbert already as a demonstration in overcoming. Like, it's not only that he lost his tackles is that that team was built around
Starting point is 00:45:08 having two incredible tackles. So it's not, and you didn't go from like having one good tackle or two mediocre tackles to having like bad offensive lines. you went from saying like, yeah, we don't got the best receiver in the league. But you know, we got, we got these tackles that we can do whatever we want with that. So like, ultimately, I think if you, if I'd have told you, not if I had told you, before this season started, when they was all hurt, I was like, damn, lost year.
Starting point is 00:45:35 So it feels unfair. Well, maybe people will do it, but honestly, it feels unfair to, I guess it depends on how he plays. But it feels unfair to then go, be like, yeah, Justin Herbert, you do stink. kind of overachieved all things considered. I want to bring up one last thing before we start wrapping this up to get out of here. And I don't know if you saw this. What you know about ginger cuss?
Starting point is 00:46:01 Ah, it's like, uh... Hold on, hold on, you don't know about ginger cuss? Uh-uh. Hold on, I got to send you, I've been saving this all week to send you, to show you ginger cuss. Um, I don't really understand... Like, I want to know the full thought process on this. but for those who don't know, I've just sent this to Dominique,
Starting point is 00:46:21 and I think that they'll be able to put this on the screen for YouTube. But when the Seahawks were named Division Champs, Marshawn Lynch sent out a tweet, and it was a picture with a bunch of guys on the team, and the demographics were largely, as an NFL team goes, and Marshawn Lynch sent a tweet because Marciaun Lynch somehow gets to say whatever he wants, and his tweet said, and I will quote, but not quote, good shit, young N-words.
Starting point is 00:46:47 and then it's like he looked around the room and said, and Ginger Cuzz in reference to Sam Darnold. So Sam Darnal is now hashtag Ginger Cuzz. You know what? The thing that jumps out to me the most is like, if I'm Cooper Cup, am I complimented or offended? Like, are you including me or are you excluding me? Like, am I part of the crew?
Starting point is 00:47:11 Well, first of all, in this picture, Cooper Cup looked like he in the same rap group with that white boy off of Beverly Hills 9-0-210 that used to be rapping. Like he got curls and stuff. Like he looked like he had a boy band out there, right? Yeah, but he's a bad boy, though, but he's a bad boy.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Yeah, yeah, that's fair. He got the leather jacket and holy deans. That's fair. But yeah, he calls San Bernard Jim Diggas. Have you seen Marcus Teague, Jeff Teague's brother on 520, telling the story about how they was somewhere, and he was with the Celtics,
Starting point is 00:47:44 and Jason Collins was on the team? I think they ain't going to China somewhere. And again, we're going to paraphrase here. And Kevin Gardner is getting everybody hype. And he's like, yeah, we're going to have all the girls. Hell yeah. And then he looked at Jason Collins. It was like, oh, we're going to get something for you, too.
Starting point is 00:48:04 We got something. We're going to get something for you too. And that's kind of how Ginger Cud felt. Like, keeping it by that he could have just completely edited his tweet. It should have been differently to include everybody. No, no, no. That's not, that is not a good tweet. An edited tweet is not a good tweet.
Starting point is 00:48:27 You would not have shared it with me if he was like, you know what? Let me fix this. Let me call them my brothers. No. I can't include that. Yeah. And ginger c. KG, man, I did see that story.
Starting point is 00:48:41 And it's funny. It's how I feel about like we got to remember. It's progress, you know? Yes. And it don't always, I imagine that Kevin Garnett grew up a lot like we grew up as far as like the way that you feel and think about things and the way that people around you talk about. That was a big jump up for him. For him to be like, don't worry, brother. We will find what works for you.
Starting point is 00:49:03 And this is something that I've been thinking about it. Maybe this is something that I should not share. Maybe I will share it or maybe you'll edit it out or whatever. But it's like when I think back on times when we could have done something better, as a society, you got to congratulate people for progress that they've made. I agree. Like, that is the big thing. Like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:49:29 My football mindset is, let's get better. That one's behind us, let's get better. And while we should celebrate the people who are in the places who have overcome, we also got to remember to celebrate the people who encouraged and allowed it to overcome. Like February need to be about them too Brother, do you know how much I would love to see some video of Kevin Garnett on the streets of Shanghai Try to find a man for Jason Collins
Starting point is 00:49:59 Like, no, not me My friend, he over there He's so determined too I don't think he would let the language bearer getting away That man, he's going to bang his head on the stanchet And they hit the streets like, hey, what's up? What do you think? You all right?
Starting point is 00:50:19 talking with his hands, right? Because you got to talk with your hands when you don't speak the language, right? Like, you just got to play charades. Like, you gotta try to come up. This is definitely for not on the air. Like the hand, the hand just, the hand motion. We're keeping this.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Like, he's trying to, I'm not saying which hand motion. No, no, no, no. I'm saying, yeah, I'm saying the next part where I was going after that. It was like, no, no, no. How are you wishing to communicate what you want to communicate? No, no. Like, I just, I just, I just, I just,
Starting point is 00:50:47 the next question for Marshaun, Lynch is, does he know Sam Darnal's name? Like, did he look at that picture and was left uncertain which was Cooper Cup and which was Sam? I think the prominence of the photo assumed it was a quarterback. I think it's more likely that he did not know his name, which, like, is consistent with the trajectory that Marchion Lynch is on. As, like, he's headed fast for, like, cool-ass old dude.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And cool-ass old dude don't know nobody name. Nicknames for everybody. What if he was like, hey, Cuzz, I ain't know Andy Dalton's still playing, Cus. Ginger Cuzz. I'm sure that's going to get picked up. They probably got the T-shirts printed already. They're going to be people at the game like Ginger Cus.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Ginger Cus. Better get it together, though. By the way, we're going to talk about them next week because they don't play this week because they had the best record in the NFC. They are really good. and it really does only come down to Jitja Cus. Boy, like, they were forges. So I did that game with the playbook telecast.
Starting point is 00:52:01 So, like, we dive deep into the access of the O, it was the first time I, like, kind of called the game. And in preparing for that game, I watched so much film and was not surprised at what I saw in the field by the film that I watched. And he made a really great play on the third and ten where he scrambled, so somebody got open and connected it late in the game. But the way that they were calling that game,
Starting point is 00:52:21 and you get the All-22 when you watch the Playbook way, and it was not great, man. It was not great. They got so fortunate that that 49th defense couldn't stop to run. And they're a team that doesn't run the ball well. They ran it well better recently or lately, but they don't run the ball well. They're most likely going to run into some teams
Starting point is 00:52:39 that's going to force Ginger Cuzz to make some plays, and the coaches don't believe in Ginger Cuzz at this point. Dude, it's year eight of this, and we still hold they still, I ain't gonna say we because it's they and yeah I mean they still hold now hope for gender cuss, man.
Starting point is 00:52:57 They refuse to give up on ginger cuss. But to be fair to them as soon as they was ready to give up on them, he was supposed to be a bench warmer in Minnesota. He went off. He did, he did, but hey, but look at the way the year before the Shanahan was talking about him.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Like, it was still, like, we are in a world where, the platonic ideal quarterback for the most, like the kind of prototaped not type now for offensive mind, is Kirk Cousins. That is so insane. You think so? I feel like we moved.
Starting point is 00:53:33 I mean, that's what Kyle has said for all this time. The fact that his brain ever said that. But all these guys, it's the new West Coast offense in the sense that they just like, hey, if you just do what I say, but you got to lose. And it's never that simple, guys. Yeah. And I mean, Kyle stumbled into a guy, excuse me, and Purdy, who is not that.
Starting point is 00:53:55 That is very true. He's not that. Like, the one thing that I'll give Purdy that falls into that category is he will trust the play. Yes. And he'll throw, like, he talks about this often. He'll throw blindly. But Purdy, my man, hit that Dougie. Like, he is, his play style is consistent with the way that he behaves out there. And I think you got to have some of that. You got to have a little bit of that variable out there. And Ginger Cuzz don't bring that variable too much, man. High stakes for Jindicuz. We're going to see. But that is Dominique Foxworth. Check him out on the Dominique Foxworth show.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Available, we're all fine podcasts. Giving away for free. My brother, I appreciate you. Thank you, sir. All right, Beau, before we get out of here, we're going to do three quick questions presented by Fandul. Peach Bowl is tonight. Oregon playing Indiana.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Indiana favored by three and a half. points. Do you expect this big run by Indiana and Kurt Signetti to continue tonight? I expected to continue. Look, they beat Oregon in their own house a couple of months ago. Maybe Dan Landig will just cook up the magic formula to come out here and beat them, but I have no reason to think that Indiana is going to lose to anybody based on what we see. Right. I mean, they've had the best coach all year. We've had, you know, we've had our questions about Mendoza, but he's been the best quarterback all year and on a neutral side. It sort of just feels like their year, you know, everything that's happened.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Reports came out Thursday. Kurtzignati looks like he's getting a contract extension. He's going to be paid $12.5 million per year. Mark Cuban's coming in on their NIL. Do you think he's the best coaching college football right now? I mean, he had the best coaching season in the world. I say the world, and I mean that literally. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Last year. Right. And then he did it again this year, except even better. It's the most impressive coaching thing that I can think of anybody ever pulling off. Who's better? If somebody's better, I can't tell you
Starting point is 00:55:56 who that person is right now. Like, it's almost at that point now where like when you talk about who you're the greatest rapper of all time is, maybe you don't have the same answer as me, but there's some people who have to be in the discussion. This man in two years has absolutely put himself at the top of the discussion.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Right. You go 25 and 2 at Indiana. and, you know, in Bloomington, of all places, and then, you know, currently the favorites to win the national title. And the two were against Ohio State Notre Dame last year, if I recall. Right. But yeah, Ohio State, who won the national title last year. And Notre Dame, who was the runner up? Yes. So that's what, again, an absurd job from a coach coming from James Madison.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And finally, a lot of rumors have come around as quarterback start to clear for the draft what Oregon quarterback Dante Moore is going to do. if you were Dante Moore, would you stay at Oregon and get drafted to get possibly drafted by the New York Jets? Hey man, for the money that it looked like these college quarterbacks are getting, I would much rather make $5 million a year playing for Oregon than to make $10 million a year playing for the fucking Jets. I can't make this any clearer. I mean, there's no way around it.
Starting point is 00:57:04 No, no, no, no, no. If I can keep getting this money and living this college life, or I could go live with the misery that has been the Jets? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Like if they told you could play against the Jets, at least then you know you'd never throw any interceptions, maybe we're talking about something different, right? But we're not. We talk about playing for the Jets. I would keep, I would stay with this good money I'm getting right now. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this four times a week. Ryan Bremley handing everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Also, remember, hit the voicemail line.
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